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13 is a lot for one sevo follower to run through
>>558553610>Clash kills the puppets before they can touch himthere's no way that's how it works... right?
9 hour threadwe are back
>>558553675It’s gay as fuck that they made him a 10/10 instead of a 9/9.
>>558553675sinciro does it before breakfast
>play Orchis>play any puppet>kill Armes with baneWow so hard
Armes discussion is like Lilanthim againIf the abyss player plays a 9pp do nothing just attack the leader directly. Other decks have scarier turn 9 wincons like rose queen that guarantees a OHKO next turn and you guys aren't afraid of her
so did they do it?did they reveal the entirety of legends rise rotating out2 days before it happens?
>>558553738yes thats how it works
>>558553783he doesn't die to bane or any destruction effects
ok thats bait
>>558553783based retard
Can we stop with the forced ass baits already or do we need to keep doing this on another thread
ENTER
>>558553840no
Ok, fine. I play Oguri Cap on his ass. Now fuck off homos.
>>558553629tourneyanon here. with a new set comes a new tourney. we will start the trend of alternating between a gimmick and normal tourney. this will be a normal tourney, with one caveat: I will no longer be allowing participants to bring the same craft twice.if you'd like to participate, please leave your id here - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdyf7PDh2HTCejkOI_iWi7BfJGLQ0AXkVSvkFNRLPQptaU95Q/viewform?usp=sharing&ouid=110726075505879897750rules in the link as always.please leave a tiny comment, anything really, with your ID, so it's a bit easier for me to tell which id numbers I've already gotten into the tourney gcthe tourney will be held on sunday, march 1st, at 6 pm UTC
>>558553963basedjust read the update notesactually no rotationso I guess now is every set we hope it's not rotation?
>>558553738only sevo'd followers or "deal damage" stuff can kill him. Or changes to its defense.
holy fuck this general's iqI'm no longer getting any advice from you guys
What's wrong with Steam?So I just installed svwb on Epic and it runs so much smoother than on Steam. No stutters.
>>558554042Random banishes
How dogshit is this deckhttps://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/detail/?battle_format=2&deck_id=430498&user_id=925924437413
>>558554040rotation is on seventh set in 2 months
>>558554040Rotation is next set. Every set lasts a year before rotting out, it was always the most obvious thing in the fucking universe because the website was designed to accommodate that.
>>558553675nothing is too tough for me
>>558553836>Armes discussion is like Lilanthim againno it's not you complete retard, lila was garbage on release because the followup was awful but oh guess what dirt rune was tier 0 in set 4 thanks to sandy>b-but dirt rune has le norman!!just fuck off retard
>>558554080there is also another hidden benefit to epic
>>558553629Me in the middle. I hate when women do this!
Camiscilla into Ralmia!
>>558554080I hope you created a JP Epic account, otherwise you are bricked out from getting cheapies forever
>he thought roping would save himAll paths lead to defeat when you fight me.
>>558554264Like a dollar or two cheaper since epic still gets its cut. You save more by not using either epic or steam and buying on the JP cygames store.
I like the look of new Sword, but they have no card drawAre we just running amelia forever..?
>>558554337
>>558554030>I will no longer be allowing participants to bring the same craft twice.your havensissy grew a beard?
>>558554387They have world of games like everyone else
>>558554387your world of games?
so reliable one card outs for armes are marwynn golden knight sevo'd jeno new forest hags that swing twice meduseless armes sinciro albert gundam(lmao) satan artifacthomo
>>558554080Epic is a perfectly fine platform. It's way less mature than steam, but it's fine. I get mad when people act like epic is offering nothing myself, afaik steam STILL doesn't have a platform agnostic way to do cross platform.>>558554264Can't you just make a throwaway and link SVWB?
>>558554107honestly? complete dogshityour wincon is having the 10pp in your hand ASAP just like belial for evo abyss or dclimb, raio and the 2pp garbo spell have anti-synergy with it
>>558554480ajurafrit
Where's the ramp support? Why is it all discard? Why is there not a single piece of Ho-chan support?
Ummm, where’s the support for Lyhknel, Shakdoah, and Kukishiro…?
>>558554498>Can't you just make a throwaway and link SVWBshadowverse will automatically bind your (ingame) account to the first steam/epic account you log in to. so if you try to log in to that account but with another epic/steam account, it won't let you
>>558554447She looks unimpressed
In 1 out of 1000 abyss games I'll reanimate the 9pp homo while my Charon is on the board
>>558554480there is a basic card that can deal with armes
>>558554604Ah, it's not particularly meaningful to me as it's only a few bongs more in dollars than yen (somehow) and cygames decided I get to use ameribucks.
>>558554576kill yourself dragonnigger
Was this really necessary?
>>558554716yes, for my dick
>>558554716Well the bra wasn't necessary that's for sure
>>558554576love yourself dragoncutie
finished jerking off to an ntr doujin. im ready to main rune
>>558554654but what if opp plays 3x armes back to back, you only have 2 SEvos
>>558554716she lasered all her senses away so she shouldn't even be wearing clothes
>>558554809meant abyss
>>558554716YES with capital Y, E, and S
>>558554809meant sword
>>558554809meant haven
>>558554480>>558554654ENTER>>558554857>>558554891brainlets, rune is canonically NTR-core now
>>558554841So does he. Also, he can technically play 6 armes, 3 of them accompanied by a 3/3 ward. Seems small but when they have an armes on the board, it can get in the way.
>>558554576What more do you want bro? You have sloth that will stop any early game from punishing your ramps and you have erntz that will heal you back to full and clear the board after your ho turn
>>558554809meant forest
>>558554957the caravan mammoth from daydream librarian will die to clashyou need to play it itself
>>558554957as useless as insomniac witch
>>558555025No? you can sevo the mammoth and not the witch.
>>558555025ok but you just sevo the mammoth
The abyss mirror is going to be so retarded…
>havensissies get the evil womanthey won
>>558554986The ones that come with a 3/3 ward also only cost 8pp so he'd have 2pp left to do other stuff too.
>>558555121shakfu sends armes packing
>abyss got another 9pp win the gamethey won (the meta)(again)
>>558555121>I play Armes sevo>in response I play Armes sevo>in response I play Armes sevo>in response I play Armes sevo>Masterful play, I concede
abyss is a problem? guess who's making a comeback in 2026
>>558555247>another 9pp win the gamewho's the first one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDgKFwb51tU
>>558555121>>558555271lol lmao even
>>558554809>>558554957rune is the hypnocraft now actually
>play laura>sevo charon>play armes
just you wait portal will reign once more with the new cards as tier 1
>9pp>doesn't heal>doesn't have wardjust win the game lol????
egg otks on turn 9 going 2nd
>>558555508wait nevermind
Only one craft has cards that kill the new abyss homo without wastin insane limited resources like the sevos you need to win the game and it's haven it's fucking over
>>558555501damn ill have to jerk off to a hypno doujin instead. oh well brb
>>558555271You play an unsevo'd armes first so you force him to have to spend a sevo first.
>>558555638your sinciro?
>>558555615first off this is not true at allsecond off even if this were true you would still be guaranteed to lose 50% of your games to a single 9drop
Abilityslop
>>558555508>10 damage faceYou might as well do the Medusa combo instead.
Every woman should look like this
>>558555713>you would still be guaranteed to lose 50% of your gamesso the usual
>>558555615Tell me your plan to otk without playing bubs>>558555689>without wasting sevo
>>558555638sword kills him for basically free with golden knight or sinciro
>>558555714I suspect the Aura/Intimidate/Barrier trifecta may be very cheesy.
>>558554604i thought you were bullshitting because i was unlinking and account swapping fine on my main steam account but it really does bind to one steam account for all the accounts i was swapping with
>>558555615Let's watch a beyond player stream and check how often does he win games fast enough that armes wouldn't have to be dealt with.
>>558555659no they can just normal evo to clear your unevolve/evo armes
>>558555829good idea>>558555793going 2nd you play bubs on turn 8 and win on turn 9 ez
>>558555829how many of his opponents play shit decks with 9pp do nothings?
Since when was Abyss the beatstick craft? I thought that was Dragon and Sword?
>>558555816I can see someone trying to make it work for sure
>>558555836Why is pretending like you don't understand clash so popular this morning?
>>558555967Dragon and sword got meme garbo new archetypes this so they weren't allowed to get good cards
>>558556015its fun being retarded
>>558556015uhhh okay retard?
>>558555836So they kill each other. Next turn you play the 3/3 that brings armes back, and don't sevo him.Now the opponent has to spend a sevo. See?
>>558555247You aren't gonna win shit with him, you play your 9PP do nothing and opponent will just play something that clears him and does other stuffs on top
Ambush Sword is forgotten. Replaced by Enhance Sword. A sad day indeed. I wanted Crown Squirrel support..
>>558556015armes doesn't die clashing into another armes
jwu, who won
At least evolve forest is good now
is it overcooked? floral offering + bayle being 0pp seems really strong for flowering friendship and roach
>lu woh the white kills shartmesBased
Armes is weak. I will show Abyss players what a true beatstick is.
>>558555756Long nails + gloves always looks fucking stupid.
>>558556372definitely overcooking
>>558556372you are going to brick like fucking crazy
I want to make this woman my wife.
>>558556489>9 pp for a sevo’d 7/7 deal 4 to the enemy leader and try to destroy Armes twice
wew done just in the nig of time
>>558556625the what
>>558556489The potential high rolls are gonna be so freaking awesome. I can't wait!
>>558556489crazy that omaygotambatukam can theoretically be a 1 card otk
fan of otohimecoin fan 2fan 4fan evo 8fan blade evo 14fan blade sevo 21its that easy...
>>558556372if you wanna brick like this just go full rose queen instead of trying to meme with althenia
>>558556667the nigger of time
>>558556617Just luckgod, then it's a 9pp 15/15 recover 4pp
Now the dust has mostly settled, which one?
>>558556625Good job anonI wonder if I have enough time to finish mine
>>558556820Dragon easily lol
>>558556820milteo since itll be good on day 1
I shall employ the mighty rhinoceroach and vanquish the abysslord before the 9th turn, mark my words
>>558556585It kind of looks like she has that thing where they remove her intestines or something due to disease and she has to carry a bag that stores her shit
I probably need Belial leader to play Armes Abyss.
>>558556820forest, miroku is a staple card that can and will be used in every single forest deck like filene for dragon
So is Rune atm like aggro with all the crystal spawns and buffs?
>>558556585She looks like she smells
how many hours until the new set? I have 1250 MP to grind to get to grandmaster and idk how much time I got
>>558556820Rune cause he's a nice old man :)
>>558556820dragon/forest is the easy pick since erntz and miroku is an auto-include in dragon/forest
>>558556981no its spellboostset 3 and set 6 were just for fun
>>558556489A power to surpass Artifact Ω
i dont think anyone ran any clash cards for people to know what it does
Where the haven decks at? I only found this from sacacakibara. Idk if it's good or not
>>558556489>>558556718>omaygotambatukam
>>558556625>>558557031
>>558557084You'd be surprised how many people got caught off guard by this dude
the most broken card with a powerful clash ability on a body with nice stats, keyword, and an evolve effect: owen
>>558557084I blame the English localization. In jap the term used is very clear and specifically points to what it refers to. 攻撃時 like in dusa's case and 交戦時 like in armes'. The English term leaves some people confused at what it could be.
How can anyone compete?
pactslop killed the hype
>>558557409this is an accurate picture of danchou erp
>>558557409Tanoshii guild lobby when danchou warps in.
>>558557409Nigga stop NTR'ing my post I did that last thread
>>558557492>>558557409me on top left ><
>>558557409My danchou in the top left
I am beginning to think that there's more ntr in this game than we initially believed.
>>558557397You click the word and it tells you in explicit terms what it does. This is basic card game shit to think about.
>>558557492more like g*ile when he walks into the lobby
is there space in tanoshii
tanoshii here to ruin the thread
Is Milteo will be included in next Abyss deck?
>>558557542are you the cutie hiding behind the curtains or the random guys feet walking in to seeing that?
>>558557623Sure no shit but that's not gonna help the retards. The jap terminology is retard-proof.
>>558556981no?the wincon is very clearly to play on curve, control the board state, get the crest and play the 10pp + his massively boosted spellthe gameplay seems close to dirt rune's
>NTR NTR NTRholy shit can these gachaniggers leave already
>>558557150No 1pp draw amulet or world of games?
>>558557708milteo already has their own dick
>>558557409Okay i'm gonna need to commission some art of him getting punched in the face.
>>558557409Playing this on the Rune ntrslut…
>>558557821>card is called allure>it steals your guy what did bro expect
>>558557689there's gonna be like 10 open slots soon
>>558557397clash is misunderstood in WB because it's rare and most cards that have it are bad, but after this set everyone will understand it properly
>>558557776What do you want them to do, create a word for "at the time of attack"? It needs to be shorthand enough to be a keyword and sound good. Follower Strike is already on the clunky and long end of things.
>>558557821this is a gacha spinoff with gacha mechanics
who gives a shit about illiterate retards
oh noshe's cute
>>558557689we're 30/30 at the moment. if we have any inactives into a week after the new set, I will kick them and start advertising
>>558558027Then I blame the English language itself.
Swordbros... Are we bringing them back?
>>558557043>>558557820It's been a bit since I've played Rune so forgot about the other cards that can potentially synergize with the wincon but yeah I'll be happy to try it sometime this set
>>558558243I kneel
i hate how different from sv1 this game isvery gay
>>558558243I mean, that's fair, but it's also way more efficient in other ways compared to Japanese. They're both clunky in some ways and agile in others.
>>558556538>>558556539>>558556742hows this for a more bog standard less tempo-y variant then? just cut the bayles and roaches since those felt like the biggest brick points. I honestly think ewiyar isn't that great anymore since sathanid kinda does the same thing and you don't really need more than 1 ewiyar proc ever really. I do also like the fairy generators + alfheimr though cause it gives the deck more kill avenues than the traditional cup sandy stuff or the obvious althenia after crest + aria thing. for example, you can do something like 5x fairy with yuelshi crest up, 1pp evo spell, sevo. 11 damage from fairies, 5 damage from alfheimr, 3 from crest procs for an 8pp otk. even without yuelshi crest it's still 16/17 damage depending on if you have evo or sevo left.
>>558557879Why?
>>558558458Well I've been looking into it and I just don't see the synergy with other rune cards
>>558558690He ruined my meta.He stole my girls.And he looks so smug while doing it.
>2-2Meh, I tried. The new set is not really that interesting for me either. Guess it's time for me to quit
>>558558672 (Me)oops I did my math wrong. it's actually 13 damage from fairies with 2 evo'd fairies, 1 sevo'd fairy, and 2 normal fairies. would be overkill by one with the +5 from alfheimr and +3 from crest procs. but in most cases you wouldn't need that since you'd realistically be chipping the opponent beforehand
Wide shoulder
>>558558672Ewiyar is far more versatile for various situations where you want to Keep your tempo for early game. Despite what the other anons say, I personally think Bayle is a good card regardless because of all the tokens being destroyed. Up to you if you want to replace your fairy makers with Titania or any of the 1/1 ward tokens generators.
>want to play classic blood/shadow mechanics like wrath and burial rite>receive fujobait midrange slopI can't take it
who won?
>>558559224I played sv1 just minutes ago and I'm in the low ranks
>>558558697I've also been trying to theorycraft a deck and this archetype is just too half baked. Including every crystalspawn card is 24 cards. It's a struggle to fill out the rest of the deck. You don't want to waste a board space on dirt so you can't use dirt cards and there isn't enough spells to use spellboost stuff. I'm just going to try to fill it out with generic stuff like World of Games, Odin, and GranDjeeta.
>>558559381opulent of course
>>558559381Left is an expired christmas cake hag while right is a prime age cutie.
>>558559586Right's tits are a bit too big for prime age, no?
n
Any potential for 5pp orchis to bully people or...?
>>558559426Yeah this is exactly how I'm feeling about it, you need all the crystalshitters or your deck doesn't function but if you add all 24 of them you probably don't have enough room for dirt/spellboost cardsThe more I'm looking at it the more scuffed it feels, for one I have no fucking idea how this deck is supposed to deal with mildly big boardsNot gonna lie champs I'm smelling a truth 2.0 on this one
>>558559224>2PP 2/2 draw a card + punch self for 1 on death>3PP 3/3 ward enhance (8) : Reanimate 9>3PP 3/3 Necromancy (4) Evolve for 1PP Draw 2 cards>3PP Draw 2 cards. Necromancy (4) : Heal 2 defense>3PP Mode Deal 2 damage to all enemy followers or gain 1EP>4PP 4/5 Enhance (7) : Gain Storm>7PP NTR cardI swear. These cards are all over the place
>>5585597972nd gundam for 7pp
>>558559797>orchis needs to survive or played on turn 10 to get a 5PP orchisDepending on what kind of Xmas land you're living in
>>558560039just play the cat with something else??
you dont need to play the cards you only topdeck
>>558560039Not really you can just have the 0pp card already on your hand from playing the cat a previous turn.
>>558560086>>558560123It's still a turn 9 play. Just go Puppet Cat for the last 2 months
>>558560039If you play 5pp orchis you can follow up with orchis zwei turn and give storm to victoria
Sometimes it's hard to tell if people are pretending or not. I just assume it's always pretending but man, there's just so much stupidity. Fake or otherwise.Why are we like this?
>The veiled elf has drainLewd
>>558559797>camsicillia into camscillia+sandy>omegatop > play spell > omegatop >play spell > omegatop > super evolve omegatop>extra copies of ralmia/gundam or beezlebub/congregantthe possibilitys are endless, im already liking the doggo
hype status?
HavenGOD deck
>>558560612midsword is so backshadoba is healing
>>558560623this one gets the can't clear armes award
>>558560267Can also have victoria on your hand from the recycle spell, which I found happens often enough. So that's 8pp for orchis + victoria. At 9pp you can even play a cat, so if you can get rid of loyd you're looking at way over 20 damage with board removal so nobody cares about wards.
>>558560271i don't know what you're talking about but there is a lot of stupidity in sv players, not just here.
any dirt support
>>558560771>can't clear armes awardis there even a need to? just go face with birbs and win the game
>>558560854>over 20Would be 17 or so, but that's necessarily following an orchis on the previous turn so very unlikely not to lethal.
>>558561007nope, completely dead set for rune
>>558560623HavenGOD dropped shadoba for Dark Slops 4 thoughbeit
Oh shit I didn't realize the new Mode spell costs 3 so it fucks with looping Seething and Coping.
are we back bros??????????
>card is named puppet>is not actually a puppet cardWho writes this shit?
This is garbage right? I feel like you won't even play this in enhanced sword, you're paying way too much PP for too little benefit
>>558561458Cygames says you must play the new abyss archetypes or else
>>558561671its a worse puppet, substandard even
>>558561458It's honestly doubtful mode even wants it, one of the modes is borderline useless in every situation and the other is only occasionally useful
>>558561250did she get to masters
>>558556923kekpoop in a bag
>>558561749He doesn't interact with any puppet effects like assassin, orchis, zwei. I agree it doesn't really matter considering he kinda sucks.It's just kinda silly that it's not actually a puppet even though it's literally called puppet.
>>558559134maybe the solution is to give up on the flowering friendship pipe dream and run ewiyar in their place. I think bayle is good too but a bit pointless to run if you're not running either one of flowering friendship, roach, or the 3pp combo draw, which evo just has a better draw spell now anyways.
I'm ready to brick
>>558560271Stupid people come in hordes, people with actual intelligence live a lonely existence.
>>558562120wait wrong pic
eggs fear me
>>558562508kino
any of the new haven cards usable for other decks?
>>558562659prostrating is a ward!
>>558562659that 3pp get 2 amulet is kukishiro support
>evil crystals, evil books, evil swords, etcOnly abyss guy is a guy with a harem, no subverting mortals needed.
>>558562281>full of set 1 stuff about to rotatefuck, mani actually do want to play chess rune at home but it seems bad to dump vials into a deck so reliant on set 1 spellboost
>>558562963The evil cat?
>>558562981I mean, it's not like you don't already have all the previous set cards anyway. So you'd only really need to craft like 6 leggos at most. Realistically more like 4 or 3.We both know you have AT LEAST 60k vials anyway. So does it matter?
The new sword legendaries are two of the worst cards I've ever read in my entire life
>>558562908Do you actually need even more card draw for it?
>>558563276yea i want more card draw in the drawing cards deck
>>558563276The amount of time I didn't draw cuckishiro until turn 10+ told me yesIt shouldn't happen when half the fucking deck is card draw but it did so often
uhh portalbrosthis isn't artifact, what the fuck is this new archetype?
>>558563506It barely even helps with drawing cuckishiro
>>558562981I feel like the new archetype doesn't work alone but with spellboost it might actually work, the 3 spells are all pretty high qualityMaybe they will release support for it in the next sets but as of right now there probably is no way to make it work as a standalone deck
>>558563579Artifacts are 5 costs the new archetype is 5cost portal
>>558563579its a gimmicky evolve 1/accelerate shill set
So the rune legendary dude you just gotta pray that you get the Z value really high by pure RNG? Y is heal and X is buffing one of the peons that DOESN'T have storm anyway so not a big deal.
>new archetypes>10 new cardsI love waiting couple expansions for the gimmick to actually become good, unless you are haven.
niggas don't know what clash is
Is it possible to not want to fap after looking at this
>>558563943or sword
>>558564014I'm a Swordmain now
what if you mix crystals and TRVTH together
>>558563943Abyss's new archetype is survive until your legendary 10/10 and try to keep it on board.
>>558557409>2 lolis in his harem>Chill dude I can't even be mad, he's just a cool guy and he ahs good taste
>>558564092yes that coin frog archetype is sooo busted im scared of playing ranked because i dont wanna face it
>>558563789All 3 can be good depending on game state, face damage is obviously the most powerful on paper but heal can be good too. Getting a big body can also be situationally good, it's rune after all the deck can shit out 30/30 boards on turn 6 alreadyAlso with 3 variables you shouldn't expect such high variance, it's virtually impossible to get a 10-0-0 or some nonsensical roll
>>558564212loot was good the set it came out bro
>>558564287meanwhile every haven archetype is playable the day it comes out
>>558564372crest was extremely playable the set it came out yes, is that not what was meant by that post?
>>558559134oh and also I honestly think all the 1/1 autoevo fairy cards are bad except for althenia herself. the 5pp one is also okay since it heals and summons one on fanfare too I guess but that wouldn't really fit the style of deck I'm trying to go for
>>558564224Yes yes of course sometimes you want to heal. But I'm just talking about trying to end the game. It's way less reliable compared to the actual legit king.
>>558556489What happens if this goes infinite?
>>558564601then the opponent dies
>>558564569i mean... yeah the archetype is heavily dumbed-down chessgotta work with what we have
Which one is easier? Tempo/fairy forest or Discard Dragon?
>>558564601the cap is 14 activations i made that up
>>558564643What if it never does the deal 2 dmg though?
penisca
>>558564601it better have a cap unless they want another alexander situation
>>558564669forest will be easier to play
>>558556489i cant see anyone but dragon running this shit
>>558564781the game isnt open source so i guess well never know
>>558564781what if a bomb were to drop on your head right now? who cares
>>558564548i just don't understand how forestbros can identify manamel as awful correctly but are slurping up the springbloom fairies that require you to play a decent amount of them out of handis it just anons horny for faefolk...
>didn't realize i was playing against shakdoh>leave a lyria on the board and she hits me down to 16>he misses one of his rolls and i otk him from 20 the turn afterall skill
>>558564981>no ward get raped by dragon>ward dont get raped by dragon
>>558564981don't get me wrong I wanna fuck them but a 2pp 1/1 that does absolutely nothing after playing a 2pp 1/2 seems so bad to me. and god forbid you use the spell and make a 3pp 1/1
>>558564895Just wondering how the game handles infinite loopsHearthstone caps it
>>558563789there was a card like that and it was pretty good>Summon a Guardian Golem and give it +X/+X. Deal Y damage to the enemy leader. Restore Z defense to your leader. X, Y, and Z equal the number of times this card has been Spellboosted, split randomly between the three effects. obviously spellboost is easier to stack than crystalspawn summons but the card will likely be good
10 cards isn't enough
>>558565093ok anon you wasted 2-4pp playing a 1/1 that does nothing to actually answer the dragon player's board except get bigger by +2/+2 after you press the end turn buttonhow are you winning from here? you don't even need them to pump evos since yuelshi is +4 evos and althenia is +3 evos so you just play both of them on curve and your're fully online turn 9
>>558565131>it was pretty goodthats because it was played between ww1 and ww2
List of archetypes that were essentially "complete" on release>roach>spellboost>artifact>mid sword>crest>mode>loot>evo abyss>cuckishiroI'm tempted to include eggs too but the deck was just complete dogshit until bub came out
>>558565320Eggs was complete dogshit before imari and world of games not even bubs saved it from tier 3
any new cards to include in aggro abyss?
>>558565252>play both of them on curvebut what if you dont draw perfect curve every match and need your cards to support your playstyle
So what are we thinking right now Abyssisters? Milteo focus? Midrange that plays him just for reanimate and board clearing? Evo?
>>558565393the neutral 2pp
Abyss players don't think.
>>558565413then you fall back on the aria fairy rape gameplan.
>>558565419drop armes on 9 and pray they dont have the answer
>>558565419im playing milteo abyss and replacing the silver lady with the rush man
>>558565393new 2/1 that deals 1 damage to opponent with last word, might also mean the 4pp chick who necromancy 2 and again if you evolve is put in aggro deck?
>>558565386I'm not saying it was good in set 4.
>>558565320What's your definition of complete?
aggro abyss feels so ass...they should've release bampi
>>558565419aggro with legally distinct leper gnomethis is +1 storm damage in a way
>>558565737whats a leper gnome??
the new haven leader looks goodbut I already have aether sofina and galleonwhat to do...?
>>558565830Play card games for at least 20 years before posting
>>558565850get it get aether and set leader to random and play kuki for the full slot machine experience
>>558565830slip of the tongue
these new sword cards look like shit
>>558565932>look like shitgay
I'm gay and brown
Do I finish my last 80 pulls for orchis leader or go pull the new pack? I have tons of vials already
>>558566148ugly hag loliworse than prim in her own classworse than velharia and wamworse than all of portalworse than all the fairies
Why not a healing crest?
>>558565673>the cards are good enough that you can make a cohesive deck built around the archetypical core cards (and previous cards in rotation)roach, spellboost, crest, mode, loot and cuckishiro are probably the best examples, the core strategy revolved around a bunch of cards released in the same set.Meanwhile dirt (for example) only felt complete in set 4 after the third wave of support as it didn't feel like a real cohesive archetype before.
>>558566323same reason why the 5pp 4/4 fairy burn girl didn't get a crestit would patch up forest's weaknesses too cleanly and make it very strong
>>558565737I'm dropping sword for this, aggro their ass and if they aren't dead on 9 I drop the 9PP dude and pray they can't out him, this sounds way better than any old or new sword deck
>>558566323>why didn't they make [card] strictly bettergee I sure wonder if this has anything to do with the devs trying to balance the game instead of printing completely broken cards
>>558566323Because effect only works when she's on the board
at what time do they release new sets again?
>>558566298Spend gold to pull leaders you want
>>5585664948am utc
I'm excited for crystal runeDisclaimer: I was also excited for fool rune
>>558566409So by design it's intended for Forest to have a healing issue?
>>558566323only dragon gets to have good heals
>>558566628yes unironically. crafts are intentionally designed to have things they're good and bad at and that's okay t. forest main
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
you shouldn't heal for doing what you already intended to do unless that's the whole point of the archetype(eg.bats)
forest downplayer is getting annoying
>>558566768>you shouldn't heal for doing what you already intended to dohahahaha, get a load of this guy
>>558566757anon she's being mind controlled against her will be kind to her>>558566841it's downplaying to say forest has bad healing now?
>>558566628Yes?Forest is getting a few decent heals this set because evo forest is intended to be a mid-rangey deck which thus needs healing, obviously they aren't going to give fucking roach or tempo forest insane healing because otherwise the decks would be broken?
alright just woke up glad to see we've already cracked the set in herei hate how the new puppet card isn't actually a puppet. just name it something else man.
what card has the lore on hypnosisi skimmed through rune cards but all i know is shymm got stabbed
>>558566457>balance the game instead of printing completely broken cardsDo not check the new unkillable abyss legendary
>>558566743>>558566936I was confused why they don't bring their healing on par with something like Dragon or whatnotbut now I see they're going the "strengths and weaknesses" route
Dragonbros...it's over. T1 for 1 set.
>swordbab plays like a faggot>oluons me 3x to faceglad this card got fucked ngl
>>558565419midrangehomoslop
>>558567157What did they do to it?
this is good bait
>>558567119Are you trying to say dragon doesn't have weaknesses?
>>558567038shymm, bewitching eld crystals, spellbound professor, enraptured student, calge all reference or imply hypnosis
>>558567235No, simply put I was trying to understand why they don't just level out the healing with each craft.
>>558567216a lot of people miss the can't be destroyed by abilities partit needs its own keyword
>>558566757just self insert as the eldritch being that mindbroke her>Shim, fall in love with me. For the sake of battle.>If you love me, I'll be very satisfied.>But forgive me. You're not the only one I desire.>Everyone will take my hand. It's always been so!
>>558567401because then every single craft would be the same and that's boring
My Shadowba gf
>>558567083dies to a light breeze, either him or your leader after playing a 9pp do nothing. there's always one card /svg/ loses their fucking minds about and are completely wrong on and this time around it's him
this evo forest is looking like the biggest bait ever
>>558567580His clash destroys anything before the trade it means you will waste two sevos and never be able to clear the third one
>Forest is now big boobs and hags craftDidn't see that coming.
>>558567681for your first homo, I play sinciro and you take 9 damagefor your second homo, I play albert and you die
What is discard dragon's wincon?
>>558567720Elf milk..
>>558567720Always has been
>>558565932The only saving grace is that Sword is about the only craft good against the abyss gigahomo (other than crest haven)
>>558558456turn 6 already has BiS card
>>558567770slowly whittling them down with fan of otohime lol
>>558567649you just slot in the two legendaries and the draw spell. everything else this set sucks
>>558567216unrelated but people are missing out on extra 2 damage reach on super evo rams by not including grimnir crestthe bubz autism last thread can clear if grimnir crest was up
>>558567760Okay and how do you plan to kill him 3x playing any of the non pet crafts? Portal can't, haven can't, abyss can't, forest sure as hell can't it's joever
armes himself can never be the main wincon, you need to play actual wincon and slot him in as 1-2 of at best
>>558564148I can't place Velharia with the hypno archetype
just win on turn 9 with odin otk
>>558567915I play 5 fairies and alfheimr and rape your faceI don't play haven portal or abyss those crafts suck
>>558567401Oh ok, I thought you were being ironic.Crafts have different archetypes but forest is supposed to be "combo"-oriented, roach doesn't play board at all and has shit healing and bad board clear but it can kill you from hand on turn 8.Evo forest in set 4 was mode mid-range but was still supposed to be a relatively "fast" deck, you trade healing and grind game compared to a deck like dirt for an earlier power spike (on paper, in reality dirt was just better in almost every way but that's another story).Ramp Dragon's identity is it does literally nothing in the early game and makes up for it with crazy strong storm damage and healing in the late game, and evo dragon is supposed to be slightly less explosive than evo forest but more grindy and more healing.Forest is honestly not the craft to play if you like "balanced" crafts because it's supposed to be one of the most "imbalanced" crafts by design (i.e. you trade stronger spikes or OTK for shit healing/board etc)
>>558568063And then he hits you 3x face after you ignore him
gil was a mistake
>>558567987velWHORIA
>>558568187his leader exploded anon, he's not doing shit
>>558561695Bro if you have the faith effect active it's 7/8 + 5/5 bane + 4/4 drain + 3/3 storm (+ 2/2 another one if you have the crest active). Or at least I think it's, since the effect procs whenever enhance happens.
can they remove rank trials??? I'm getting nervous...
>>558565131spellboost+dont require an evo+isnt supposed to be the big payoff+dont require to play a 10pp dude
The new rune leader animations look crappy
thoughts abyssisters?
>>558568104Thank you for the insight
>>558568391what are you smoking, they'll be 3/3, 4/4 with sevo and faith
>>558568507remove everything that isn't heals and armes. more seriously armes and belial dont mix.
>>558568684Don't you have some inactive people to kick
EVERYONE HAS GIL ON HAND LIKE HOW THE FUCK
>>558561695the token all have rush btw
angrea still deserves a nerf
armes is fucking trash. feel free to grudgepost me on this. I was right about belial being trash in skybound when you people were losing your minds over him and I was right about lhynkal being trash last set when you people were losing your minds over her. you can't afford to skip turn 9 doing nothing but playing a big body that will maybe win you the game if your opponent doesn't just murder you or clear it. egg can get away with it because it doesn't need bubz after he's used his fanfare and it has healing that can help it stay out of range of everything but otks, most importantly healing that can trigger on the same turn they play bubz
so forest has shit healing and ward optionshaven has bad lethal range on average and cant otkdragon pays ramp tax and has a horrible curve without ramprune cards require set up from other cards otherwise they literally do nothing abyss has shit regular evo options so weak turns 4-6 and reanimate is easy to brick or fuck with so they need a specific curvesword and portal are petclasses that have access to everything
>>>/h/8837518
>>558569347portal's weakness is that it literally does nothing once it's out of evossword's weakness is draw power
>>558569315But how do you clear him he can't be destroyed and has aura that already eliminates all removals except marwyn and then to top it off he has a clash that forces you to burn sevo on him
>threshold for portal beyond is like 2150>...meanwhile abyss beyond is like 1980lol
>>558569315How many crafts can clear armes and get a strong tempo play in return?>inb4 marwynn
soldiers look like THIS?!
>>558569315yeah the armes upplay has to be anon memeing
the only healing in my portal deck is a temporary crest on evolve from a do nothing 3/3/3 and sometimes the crest doesn't even heal
>>558569315List the cards in each class that will see actual play that out Armes.
>>558569379kill yourself
>>558569565I fear the fearless soldieralso is this a skin for the new sword enhance token shit? if so wtf I'm a sword main now
>>558569475sword with golden knight stacked espada or stacked sinciro dragon with 1 saved up galm claw and erntzportal is the only that gets rawdogged by this guy since artifact is the only one with options to kill him
>>558569674yeah idk what its from. the paid pulls are dragon and the bp skin is for the puppet
>>558569565you never watched mulan before?
>>558569315>does nothing>clears 3 units the turn he's dropped
>>558569379Do the haven girl please
>>558569475>>558569648forest - new 8pp hag or they just kill you with roach / fairiessword - espada galaxia or sinciro or they just kill you with albert / sincirodragon - they just kill you with gendragon or erntzabyss - another armes or belialrune - idk I don't play runehaven - gets fucked hardportal - idk I don't play portal
>>558569834>haven - gets fucked hardhaven has the cheapest out with marwynn
>>558569791Are you saying that's actually a man?
>558569379me on the left
>>558569908so the gameplan is to just pressure the haven player into using the banish and fuck them hard
>>558569475sinciroif you allow grimnir crest there's more reach. lyanthoth, erntz LAW, burnitethis doesn't really count for tempo but lifestealer can transform armes into a skelly
>>558569834>portal - idk I don't play portalportal got a new 8pp card that kills him with sevo
Portal can sevo VictoriaFucking awful cause it uses sevo
>>558569709>gold knightcorrect>espada galaxiahave you played evo sword before? how many times on average do you think you're able to shit out a turn 9 sevo espada galaxia?>stacked sincirocorrect, if you get to hold onto him until turn 9 that is>dragon with 1 saved up galm claw and erntzcorrectanyways that's 2 crafts out of 6what about rune, forest, non-crest haven, portal and abyss (other than playing your own armes lmao)?
>>558569938no, lots of sword followers who are secretly women with big boobs thats all
>>558570076>correct, if you get to hold onto him until turn 9 that isok so I play him on your turn 8you play the homo in responseI play albertgg shake my hand
>>558569997He has aura nothing can target him manually
>my entire gameplan is playing a 9 drop and hope you don't out it
>>558570248>if you allow grimnir crest there's more reach. lyanthoth
fwiw evo mode had a good matchup into loot during grubslop when loot was at its strongest so i dont think sinciro albert is going to be much of a concern for any abyss players this set
How does it look forestsisters? The lack of 1pp fairies and cards kinda worries me
>>558570381comet drive sucks take it outnurturing eld lance sucks take it outmerciful attendant sucks at 3x cut her downkindly executor probably sucks
>>558570236Yeah let's pretend that armes is the only card in their hand and they just automatically play it on 9pp regardless of the situtationLet me guess you also think bub is a shit card for the same reason?
>>558570002>sevoSo you clear him twice and die to the third one also he has 13 hp the new portal car doesn't even scratch the surface and wastes an evo point that you desperately need to play portal
>>558570480so you agree with me that abyss has much better things to do on 9pp than play that dumb brick, thank youI was also one of the few anons that said bubz was good when this general was whining about him being shit
>>558569908>just play crest bro
yeah bro i will *have* to be super evolving my guys to clear your new god, while also push damage and ending the game. please don't keep playing him instead of stopping me from winning oh no that would be so bad...........
>albert in evo swordgod I hate swordfaggots
>>558570484to play him in the first place they need to evo to clear your board. if they regular evo the portal card kills him with regular evo. if they sevo she kills him with sevo. there aren't infinite evos
>>558570347That doesn't follow at all, yes mode can win against loot but pretty much every other abyss deck loses hard to it and I don't see any new abyss decks that will play similar to mode
>orchis wants sevo points>zwei wants evo points >imari wants evo points>cami wants evo points >axia wants evo points >lishenna wants evo points >alouette wants evo points>sylvia wants evo points >karula wants evo points >liam wants evo points >>you get 4 per matchPlaying portal is hell everyone is playing fanfarecraft or infiniteevocraft because they get free evos or evo replenishment while portal has to play evo management simulator and when you run out of evos you die
Will all the discard effects activate when you play her?
>>558570076glade with sevo outs himthe bitch that gives a crest on sevo that evolves out himgravy with sevo outs himmeduseless outs him rune satan dclimb sevo outs him and kills you 50% of the time6pp artifact homo that swings twice on sevo outs himnew forest hag outs him since she swings twice on sevojeanne sevo outs him9 times out of 10 hes a sevo trade
umm yeah im not allowed to play the enhance finisher in the enhance deck
Which one
>>558570076>forestthey just kill you. a 9pp do nothing that doesnt heal, set up a ward, or do damage to forest's face gets you killed. but even if they don't, they're most likely going to be on even forest so the 8pp legendary just sevos and double trades into him while also leaving up three 3/3 wards
>>558571042its the evo bat spam. the new card does not demand any additional cards in your deck so you can just run him in whatever abyss deck you want. there isn't any concern about him being cleared by sinciro because even if loot was meta you have the ability to build a deck that beats loot regardless of the 2-3 copies of a single homo in your deck.
>>558571317>even forestevolve forest oopsies I'm tired
>>558571135bottom because unkei and gildaria are cute
>>558571078Yeah, in left to right order
this place is so fucking terrible at rating cards
do timmy really think he can win with just armes
this place can't even correctly rate cards after they've been in play for two months of course they can't evaluate pre-release
armes is timmycore he belongs in my dragon deck not in an abyssissy's
>>558571398Bat spam by itself does not beat loot, they can play around all of your healing by setting up two Sinciros, same deal if you take too long to finish your quest.The way mode beats loot is by finishing the quest ASAP, setting up Congregant walls and hoping the sword player can't clear.Pure evo always loses to loot despite spamming bats because they have 0 wards. Any Armes decks will have to take that into account.
>>558571710This place still overhypes imari and dewdrop when all the new broken shit has aura
>>558570467>nurturing eld lance sucks take it outWhy does nurturing eld lance suck? You basically pay 1 more pp to summon the 2pp token that you don't have to generate in the first place. The removal can be handy at times.>merciful attendant sucks at 3x cut her downHmm I think I agree>kindly executor probably sucksOn par with other forest drops I suppose. Still I think it's gotta be 3of if you want to go all in SathanidAdded x1 wolf dude for surprise lethal and x1 grassshopper to tutor Sathanid if needed
>>558570639The entire point of the card is it's a bitch to outThere aren't that many cards that can out it while also accomplishing stuff, gold knight and justice are good counter-examples but they're few and far between.>>558571108>glade with sevo outs himforest super evolving glade on turn 9 is a win in my books however I look at it>the bitch that gives a crest on sevo that evolves out himyou want to sevo her on curve anyways way before turn 9, would be a decent play if >gravy with sevo outs him>meduseless outs him nice turn 9 superevos bro sick tempo swings>rune satan dclimb sevo outs him and kills you 50% of the timeyeah el famoso turn 9 satan>6pp artifact homo that swings twice on sevo outs himNot awful but don't even pretend artifact will be anywhere close to meta this set>new forest hag outs him since she swings twice on sevoyour first good example>jeanne sevo outs himagain terrible superevo target, all you're accomplishing is getting a 9/9 on the board on turn 9 and you wasted your jeanne effect>9 times out of 10 hes a sevo tradeEven assuming you are correct he got to clear your boad before and you most likely had to use your superevo on a subpar targetYou people are so fucking clueless it's insane, obviously the nigga is not an instawin 9 drop and if the opponent has the perfect out then it is what it is, but if your reasoning for saying it's bad is "my aragavy for meduseful superevo outs it!" then you might just be fucking braindeadDon't forget the card is completely unconditional and doesn't require any kind of setup to accomplish what it does. It's a good card.
>>558571541I think forest playing mini-aggro sword and using stuff like pic related will be more dominant/OP than the fairy evolve their shilling this set
I will save my super evolve to play armes and pray you don't have the out or kill me right awaymy plan is perfect
>>558571994>you want to sevo her on curve anyways way before turn 9, would be a decent play if if you don't already have her crest active*
>>558570076Yuel Sevo, new 8pp 7/7 Sevo, having lethal in hand, Cupitan Sevo, gambling with Sandalphon Sevo, and having lethal in hand
>>558571912it's a 3pp 1/1 that does nothing the turn it's played or a 3pp that kills one thing and gives you zero tempo. you would rather just run phildau, he costs 1 less and is basically like selecting both modes on eldlance, it's not like you are starving for normal evos. you don't really need the fairy cards get sathanid faith off. you will pretty much need to play the new 8pp girl to get it done on time anyways. don't think of her as a payoff for sathanid but your main fuel for sathanid besides yuel & socie1x wolf dude is funny1x grasshopper is also funny
>>558571994>>jeanne sevo outs him>again terrible superevo target, all you're accomplishing is getting a 9/9 on the board on turn 9 and you wasted your jeanne effectnot if you are playing kuki haven and got a fullboard to jeanne up and if you are ward then you get 1 buffed guy from the aether board>Not awful but don't even pretend artifact will be anywhere close to meta this setshartifact technically got new support this set
>Just put the absolute shit cards like cassius to deal with him
This nigga actually dared to say "cupitan sevo"
>Just draw the out bro
Cool cards! Still using Senpai though.
>>558572523My boy Chaos MAX has setups for actual OTKs
>>558572598our senpai
>>558572523blue eyes white dragon would beat this though
>>558572598I hope you like the cards portal got! please post eudie35!
>>558571882i don't agree with this logic. if they actually started giving everything aura then that could imply dewdrop was a problem and warped their card design.but they didn't. in reality only 3-4 cards have aura. the 4th is rng so it probably shouldn't count. and those cards are all followers and would die to stormy blast too or deathslash outside of armes. it's not just a dewdrop thing.but yes imari and dewdrop were what i was thinking about. just check the replies to >>558203118>>558203204>>558203219>>558203414
>>558571856how are you setting up 2 sinciros without stone man
NYOOOOO LET ME TURN YOUR BOSS MONSTER INTO A LITTLE BUDDY
>>558572598ryu's tentative portal list still has eudie.
>>558572190>Yuel Sevo>new 8pp 7/7 Sevosee >>558571994>having lethal in handyeah I'm sure your evo forest deck will consistenly have lethal in hand on turn 9 into a 13/13 body>Cupitan Sevoso your plan is to top deck a cupitan on turn 9 right? because you DO know she auto evolves on fanfare at 10+ skybound right?>gambling with Sandalphon Sevoeven assuming you hit the gamble (which isn't that bad) you're still wasting a sevo on fucking sandalphon AND your 15/15 sandalphon, it's a fucking shit play you would never want to make.Yuel is a decent play assuming you don't already have her crest which means your curve was scuffed. The new 8pp leggo is THE out (and honestly the only good out in the entirety of forest alongside rose queen (lol))
>>558572786Well what the fuck is abyss gonna do about itIt's not like they can actually apply any pressure
>>558572285
The fex sox doujins on ehentai....
himeka outs the new abyss giganigga
Are people forgeting about the new 5 drop bat woman that unbricks your fediel??
>>558572670True, Senpai loves all her juniors.>>558572721I do! I hope the theorycrafters can make them work for Artifact.>>558572884Even if Eudie is finally cut, i'll just cut something else from my personal list.
You are using armes trying to win the game withI'm using armes to drain my opp out of sevoswe are not the same
blud thinks he doesn't need to super evolve armes
GUYSThe game automatically shows the card descriptions when I have my mouse over the cardsHow do I disable it? Please, it's annoying
>>558573079thank you! I hope you have a good day today!
>>558573164nice sevo drain unfortunately
>>558572904probably just curve out board spam and then play their homo. if you're not able to curve out with sinciro and albert perfectly without them healing just playing him when you're out of albert range means you won the game.i think you're imagining that im arguing that abyss is too strong here or something but im actually arguing that loot is considerably weaker without oluon now.
>>558553629ATTENTIONArmes is a scary threat! But with me and my research team of me, me and me, I've compiled a exhaustive list of answers and outs against Armes!Now he's not so scary! Shoo away this Encroacher from your mind and gets your eyes off him!
>>558573283kek
>>558573283>click thumbnail>daydream librarian in the middle of my screen>close picture
>>558573283you forgot the bronze wamdus
>>558573439close your life retard
>>558573261Mode is not a curve out deck.I'm not imagining anything, your argument is that abyss did well against loot in certain situations so it will automatically succeed against it with the new cards and my argument is that it did very poorly against loot in most other situations so its success is not guaranteed.I don't know if Armes is plug and play. Maybe you can stick him into mode but maybe you can't. All I know is I don't wanna play mode anymore.
>>558573283In that list there are 3 viable cards
might play sword so i can use rose again
>>558573283there's also the 'kill your opponent' out. would recommend
>>558573242Anyone? I can't find the option, I'm going insane
>>558573283kuon can out him if you sevo the big guy instead
>>558573283Gildaria doesn't need Grimnir
>Meta is once again, rape your opponent before they can play their turn 9 boss monster
>>558573283I hate this image it is bad.
>japanese salaryman drops this nigga>it (((randomly))) rolls 2 and 4 untill you dieHow do you like the neutral Oluon, bros?
>>558573242>>558573780You cannot
>>558573886You can. I did it months ago but I just can't find the option anymore
>>558573882I'm a brainlet. Why does everyone talk about this like it's some sort of otk?
i have never attempted to build a deck before and am still new to this game on a scale of 1-10 how much does this suck
>>558574050They have Yogg-Saron PTSD
>>558573242you can i don't remember where but i'll get back to you when i find it in a bit
>>558572901You're right, Cuptian x2 would be better.
>>558574050Oluon isn't an OTK either, yet here we are
>>558574050it can roll infinitely if you get lucky enough which means it has the potential to burn for you for 20 which is statistically guaranteed to happen if you are 3/0 on the last lobby tourney match with lethal in hand
>>558573283okay lets say your opp just used their 2nd sevoYou play your 2nd sevo Arnes. If they can't kill (you) what are their outs without sevo?
>>558574221How can it roll infinitely?
>>558574032>>558574113I FOUND IT
>>558574309by rolling 4 option every time, Marie-chan
>>558573079i've sadly never been able to fit eudie in my artifact decks since I mostly rely on the card draw/healing from mechs instead even though I have eudie leader. Doggo feels like a guarantee include, though I dont know if you'd want to include the new accelerate cards or catapult ramp since you'd be mostly waiting to summon the mechs off followers or the 5-cost spell to get his 0 cost spell
>>558574316Where is it
>>558574269golden knight, spellboost cards, lifestealer, marwynn
>>558574426Damn i'm actually retarded.This is why I play Abyss.
>>558573283red = not even an out, stop cheating with muh grim crest in decks that would never use him in a million years or 10pp plays retardorange = "outs" that are some combination of>suboptimal use of your superevo>wastes a ton of resources>doesn't give you any tempogreen = outs that actually accomplish things on top of outing the giganiggaNotice how small the green pool is despite me very kindly including unplayable garbage cards like himeka or the meme 7pp dragon dude in the list
>>558574269sometime you just lose, big deal. there are many cards in the meta that already do that, the differences are that they will also do many other things and not just a clear and hand checking an out
Any eceleb evo forest recipe?I'm going away for next 4 days and probably won't have time to tinker myself.
>GP Finals>Oluon (opponent) hit me thrice behind 1 followerNICE GAME, RETARDS
>>558574843another win for the good guys
>>558574843>>558574927Next opponent did it again1-2
should I play the new 9pp meme in ho-chan ramp?
>>558574843And I hit myself twice with 13hp in my last GP game. Fair and balanced, would revoke nerf.
i wish i played shadowverse where it's normal to always be able to sevo who you want without ever needing to compromise
>>558574834@NeroNiiVery loud and obnoxious, but spent the last set grinding ladder with Evo Forest. Coincidentally thinks most of the new package is at odds with the current package.
>>558575016I mean he did it too
>>558575016Not a fan of defending sword, but looking at what you're playing, I'm going to say deserved.
>>558574705Why is Gildaria crossed out as fake here
>>558575016haven is a magnet for misfortune
>>558575131Did he post anything yet? I can only see his last streams from reveals.
>>55857540713hp to cleargildaria = 7hpdouble proc = 9hpyou have 3 pp left to clear 4hp more hp, there isn't a single sword card that summons 4 bodies for 3pp
>>558575380>A homemade deck that gave me winstreaks in LegendIt's good and I'm proud of it
>>558575595just play lumitrooper and have grim crest activate
>>558575407gildaria needs grimnir and 2 extra bodies to deal 13, it's possible but pretty fake
>>558575595gildaria is always played in grimnir decks
When are we getting individual cards for the battle princesses? They're so incredibly sex.
>>558575678>>558575691>just have grimnir crest bro>just conveniently have the exact card you need in hand on top of it brook fine, if you're going that route then she can technically out him.Congratulations, you had to play shitty grimnir on curve and go -1 and waste sevo on a card that you'd want to regular evo or wait for rally to proc just to clear my unconditional giganigga. Are you happy?
>>558574705Where's seofon? And Octrice's spell is 4hp. Also, the 5pp spell that gives double attack.
>>558576028evo sword has nothing better to do on turn 3 than playing grimnir or 2 drop + boots if you played devotee
>>558575595Her tokens have Rush...?
>>558576028...and what do you do in the meantime. oh right, playing and super evolving 1 card that doesn't win you the game. congrats I guess
>>558576249cmon man. read the damn card
timmies are so funny
>>558576249>Her tokens have Rush...?
>>558574462NTA: it's somewhere in keybinds->mouse and keyboard, there's an option there to make descriptions show up on click instead of hover
just sevo a token and attack twice
>>558576028if you really hate grimnir in evo sword (why)? then kill off the steelclad knights and play enhanced serenity shield
>>558575438https://www.youtube.com/live/4r3REnkFttw?si=AjMDS17cybbQbBuGFrom around 4:29:00 onward is him and a friend going over forest. From 4:56:00 onward, he starts talking about why the new evolve cards have poor tempo.
why does this retard keep thinking he can just trade up 1 sevo without using sevo of his own first on Armes first??
Im gonna stream and open 100 packs for the rune leader, will svg come and watch??
>>558573283I know nobody plays this card but a potential tech with divine guard is possible
>>558576746Because Armes auto-evolves
wait legends rise lives for 2 more months?
>>558576064I didn't make the initial chart don't ask me.All of these would be orange btw, using octrice spell to clear board has got to be the worst cope I've ever seen. Same for the 5pp double attack spell, good job going -1 and superevolving a <=4pp shitter that doesn't achieve anything else than clearing the giganigga.>>558576249Shut up retard go play the tutorials or something I'm sure they explain how clash works>>558576484Yeah let's conveniently forget that my giganigga cleared your entire board the turn before, didn't require any kind of setup other than drawing it and made you waste resources and do a suboptimal play. It's like you aren't even pretending to argue in good faith.
>crafted ward haven set 2>crafted eggs set 3>crafted belial set 4>crafted milteo set 5i will be crafting amulet haven tomorrow do with this information what you will
So, where are these powerful" accelerate" effects??
managed to get gm1 before new expa!!!!
>>558576746i look like this
>>558576682>if you really hate grimnir in evo sword (why)?Good job ignoring my other points.Grim is good in evo sword, but you still won't always have it up AND you still HAVE to go AT LEAST -1 in the process to clear it.>play enhanced serenity shieldYeah I forgot enhanced serenity shield + gildaria was a 9pp play my bad.
>>558576746its bait and you retards keep eating it up
>>558576826yeah
>>558576776I will
>>558576903I'm never playing haven anyway so it's cool. The whole craft is the antithesis of everything I could possibly ever find fun.
I'm still reading over the new archetypes, but why are we tunneling on trying to clear the stat stick guy when playing him means they didn't heal for a turn so you can just Albert/Erntz/Genesis Dragon/Axia/whatever new unga bunga card?I don't think playing a big stat stick and hoping it survives a turn has ever been a viable strategy...
https://poal.me/2iw4qwSettling this once and for all
Today I learned /svg/ doesn't know how the "clash" keyword worksI also got reminded that /svg/ doesn't understand the concept of tempo and card advantage (I already knew this)
So why did they give semi Aegis to Abyss instead of Haven? Keep in mind, Abyss is one of the best healing decks in the game by a large margin, possibly the best.
ip grabber
>>558577545rose queen gets clowned on for 9pp do nothing so i expect armes to be the same
why would anyone know how the keyword clash works
so are they going to steal my erntz AND my ramp basically?
No one is talking about the Eld card in Abyss too. Abyss got the best Eld card that is auto slot in every deck. Oh, and the 7pp silver spell kills take 2 til it rotates, Abyss is basically tier 0 in take two thanks to that card, unless every deck plays pure face aggro (which most can't).
>>558577407it's honestly pretty funny this is happening cause we don't even know if Abyss is going to be a common craft in the meta at all.
clash THIS
tempo is when I let you play all your wincon out and I play my 9pp do nothing
>instead of playing armes i shall play one of my other abyss win conditions boss monsters>like this card that does not exist>and this other card that does not exist
>>558576746Yeah he runs into the same problem as Karula, where you NEED to sevo first to do anything or get your ass raped by their board. At best they trade a sevo to clear your Armes, while at worst they completely shat on him while also building a board or just outright storm your face for game.
>>558577849wilbert bros...
>>558577872whops forgot pic
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/pack/apocalypse-pact/if you look at him from this page you can't even click clash to see what it meanshttps://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/cardslist/?page=1&free_word=clash&class=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7&cost=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10if you look from here you can. i guess people learned knew what clash meant when owen was announced but forgot because he was irrelevant.
>>558577884here are my boss monstersimpressive, aren't they?
>>558578003Not a single fucking card in this game has more targeted hate cards than this piece of shit.
>>558577665you have no idea what you're talking aboutrose queen is clowned on because the entire deck is shit and forces you to play shit cards for a meme inconsistent OTKwhether armes is good or not is irrelevant to this comparison because armes is a one-card package that just slots into any deck that wants to use him, exactly like bub
>>558577545We agreed that it is a good card
How am I supposed to keep my dick from getting absolutely obliterated by the new sword loli
>>558578070I learned what clash is because I tried to kill the portal silver nobody plays with some small rush dudes
>>558577975Counterpoint, Karula is in an evo hungry shitty deck with weak heals. Armes is in a deck with infinite free evos, and the best heals in the game. Armes as a secondary wincon to Belial will be meta.
>>558578003Kinda hot
>>558578070I knew how clash worked and then immediately forgot we were talking about the abyss homo once everyone switched to doing hp math
>>558578212>people voting in the poll out of spitenever change
>>558578070>>558578375doesnt clash only trigger on your turn??
>>558578217Become gay
>>558578502No way fag
feels like you can't keep up with this game unless you play it as your main gameI seriously think you need to play like 2h a day every day to be able to at least reach a high rankI wanna play endfield and get good at deadlock but I find myself having to grind this game all the time
>>558577545Should have the options be>broken>good>assI think he's decent but overhyped>>558578459It's both turns, basically two-way Strike aside from not working when hitting leaders
>>558578623if you only play 2 hours a day svg will tell you you don't play the game btw
>>558578670whooooa. Is that why this dudes getting everyone riled up? cause hes a bigass you cant target with spells or trade?
>>558578623Bro the unkeep of this game is to win 2 ranked games daily which take 10 minutesdailies in this game take as long as blue archive or any autobattler
>>558578623Honestly, if you just do weeklies, battlepass, and the weekend tournament, you can keep up.Aside from the weekend tournament, all of those things can be afk'ed on an android emulator.
I think armes doesn't have enough survivability. Give him LW: summon armes
>>558578459Clash happens on opponent turns as wellI once had a dragon ram his Orcas into my Eustace then concede cause they all got gunned downbefore doing any damage
>>558578774There's stuff you can't do in 2 games like evo 10 times (for most decks)
>>558578623Reaching GM once every couple months is not that hard.
>>558578850They won't do that, that'd be insane. Only Rune is allowed a massive beatstick that recurs every single time it dies.
>>558578774ok but that's just upkeepplaying for upkeep zombie mode is not enjoyable and is a quick path to dropping the gamebecause all you are doing are daily chores
>>558578945>GM3ftfy
>>558578623as someone who juggles like 8 gacha games on top of shadowverse you mostly get your grinding in whenever a new expansion comes out and once you hit GM its back to comfy playing to cap 10k on the BP then just logging in, doing dailys then logging out again
>>558579007only insane do that grind
>>558579103but what's the point of that? just grind currency?
>>558578623You can climb from master to grandmaster in one day if you play all day like the jap streamers keeping up takes me like half an hour unless i have fun then I'll play for longer and I'm currently at a point where i don't need to roll for anything i can just craft what deck i feel like and play but i mostly stick to portal and forest so maybe that's cheaper than keeping up with legendary spam crafts like dragon and abyss
>>558579287yeah but that's just to keep upyou don't improve or learn how to play better at the game if you just do dailies forever
>>558579287Meant dragon and haven i wrote abyss because everyone is talking about it
>>558578997>you cant keep up with the gamehmm you actually can>NOT LIKE THAT!!absolute moron
How many hours left until the pacts are unlocked
No one has shown a viable abyss deck that can actually play the new homo. Don't forget that abyss is currently bottom tier, and a single homo won't make a difference.
>>558579427I'm already almost perfect at my main crafts i don't wanna learn the others because i don't like how their cards look but everything else if fairly straightforward with their cards compared to elf and nemesis making you jump through hoops to get shit done
>>558579438ok sorry I did not word my initial "keep up" properly I meant ranking up and learning to play better>no you can't clarify what you actually meant now!but I can
waaaah nemesis (not saying portal because I'm not a secondary like you guys lol) is so difficult to play actually!
>>558579671post cr for this seasonor last season if you skipped this one
>>558579282having fun while optimally playing to give me the packs+rupees to guarantee leaders every so often
i made the other decks but only played odds haven in the first half of the set and was completely absent in the second half. and i must say why the fuck is shadoba optimized like shit. zzz and endfield can retain a smooth 60 and ow on med-high but my shit just tanks for shadoba.
>>558579671NTA but holy fuck you're retarded
>>558579803Wait is he not called cuckishiro
>>558579803yeah the game's code is complete ass, no amount of GPU/CPU power can fix human incompetence
>>5585789955/5 isnt really massive
desu i get it. rank resets too fast. i'd like to get my cr higher but a month isn't long enough unless you actively grind instead of playing for fun when you feel like it. i had the same issue with hearthstone.the balance patches aren't extreme enough to justify resetting cr every month instead of two
REMEMBER TO NOT REDEEM AFTER RESETDO NOT REDEEM!!!
@havensisters status?
>>558579710Let's see you play portal since set 1 until now and getting around all the other broken decks everyone got to play so far
>>558580142yeah I agree with this, this is the second time I'm completely skipping part 2 because I lose all interest in the set after CR resets
tfw a 1200 CR player no matter what the deck
>>558579868remember how I mentioned Deadlock?there is no progression system in that game yethowever I still need to "keep up" with that game and sink in hours to get better at itit is reasonable to assume that "keeping up" can mean something other than grinding dailies, weeklies, battlepasses and events
>>558580273My clitty is leaking
>>558577545I picked the option opposite of my actual stance to make /svg/ look dumber when I'm right.
>portalnigger playing victim when theyre responsible for the worst meta in shadoba 2 history
>>558580303This is not the own you think it isAlso """nemesis""" was literally top tier in set 1t. playing dragon since set 1
>>558580273its over
>omenslop was portal's fault now
>>558580206This sort of blatant racism is not funny man.
>"""worst meta""">look inside>it's just our current meta
>>558580462The worst meta so far
>>558580273skullfane stocks are gonna jump! invest now to win big!
Omenslop was good for the crest vs crest matchups in tournamentsIt had a high level of skill
let's be honest, if seasons lasted for 3 months or just 2.5 months the game would implodenobody has the patience to play the same meta for more than 2 weeks2 month long sets are already way too fucking long
>>558580462Not like they are the only ones at fault
>>558580409The other anon was right to assume you were asking about "keeping up" with the game as in how not to fall behind in cards/vial/rolls/events/etc because it's the only way your initial question even makes senseIf you want to get better at the game which as you correctly pointed out requires you to spend more time playing the game, how about you spend more time playing the game then you fucking retard?
>>558580462>worst metaI'd argue worst was crest haven though I did get 3 weekend tourney wins and GP banner for winning with crest so zero regrets
guys I think kroni is back!!
>>558580863i'm not saying *sets* should be longer. i'm saying sets shouldn't be split into two nearly identical seasons, just make it one longer season. get rid of the master to grandmaster 20k too since it's a complete waste of time. let us play cr from the start.
>>558580863It would be better if cygay stop being stingy asses and only nerfing cards when a new set is about to come in
>>558580553>omen haven, rune , sword, abyss (4 class meta)>blossoming slopportal, dragon (2 class meta)
>>558580863If they actually did any balancing I think it would be more manageable
>>558580863I play one craft per week that way i don't get bored easily
>Me and my favorite Shadowbanons
>>558581128by this standard the worst set was grubslop which actually was a 2 class meta. blossoming kino had sword too.
>>558581128Omen was just crest mera actually
>>558581128>>omen >haven, rune , sword, abyss (4 class meta)Crest was miserable to play as or againstLoot sword is to this day the most insuferrable deck to play against in the entirey of shadobaMode abyss was fine to play as or against but better not play it then because the mirror and crest matchups were complete trashDirtboost was clearly a full tier behind the other 3 and it was still miserable to play againstSet 3 was just fucking terrible
>>558581360No it wasn't
but what about shadowtrannons
>>558580462but enough about haven and rune
I should have trudged through the crest haven meta for sham nacha sleeves but I was too weak willed
>>558581321fighting against dirt never felt unwinnable even though in reality they were heavily favoured.
When is the set out?
50% of players dropped the game after grubslop
>>558581014well for a simple reason, feels like the time I invest gets wasted unless I spend time all the time in perpetuitylast set I grinded sham nacha mode until I was 1600cr, not great by any means but I really liked the deckthis set the deck is absolute dog shit and everything has been turned upside down and I could not find the time to learn a new deck only for it to be invalidated tomorrow
>Haven was good against Forest>Forest was good against Rune>Rune was good against Haven>And all the entwining matchups across that triangle were interestingOmens was such a complex and underexplored meta, truly once in a lifetime meta compared to>Skybounds slop>Loot is the best deck>Play decks that try to beat loot (Dirt rune)or>Blossoming slop>Portal is uncontested best deck>Play decks that beat portal (POW!!)
is it just me thinking new dragons cards are kinda meh?
99% of players dropped the game after blossoming slop
>>558561695It's just 2 damage storm on 8PP right? What a piece of shit, unless you get enhanced 7 effect too if you play at enhanced 8 but I doubt that's how it works
100% of players dropped the game after the announced you can't dust any card you want. you can't disprove this.
>>558577849>Steal their erntz and heal for 8 or finish them with sevoHoly shit dragon is dogshit now
>>Loot is the best deck>>Play decks that try to beat loot (Dirt rune)
>>558581880uhh it's actually 3 damage with the enhance crest
100% of my Shadowba gfs/crushes dropped the game
>>558582023since when does dirt beat loot lmfaodirt folds to turn 7/8/9 bursts
>>558561695>>558581880it's a card that gives you a strong board in a deck where the goal is to make boardswhat do you thinkI guess not dealing 12 damage from hand means it's a shitcard from the average swordbrain
>>558582136but eudie poster is back, you saying you wouldn't sex her?
>>558582136mine too... they actually logged in a few months ago and ignored the messages I left for them
Yeah little man, dirt rune had 50% ladder representation because it was a funny deck and not the only way to not get raped by lootMoron
>>558581880When you Enhance, you get all effects for that cost and under unless they specify "instead"
>>558581249whoa posting my favorite cure is cheating I don't erp anymore
the deck with 100% representation in tourney and 60% on ladder is not the deck to beat and is the good guy, actually
>>558561695>>558582346how dos lolisword faith interact with this dudes enhance? would he summon+buff 1 by 1 or buff just once after he summons them all?
>>558582346It's 8 fucking PP, board doesn't matter at that point, in fact board is bad for you since there's something for your opponent to drain and heal out of Albert range
>suddenly it was about last set not this set???
>>558582628lol ok bro keep playing stormslop and aggro all your life
oh sorry was there a reply linked to the post I first replied to?
does this general have someone who makes shitposts intended to be interpreted as posted by known anons
>>558582797obviously meant for >>558582661
>>558582628it says "play an enhanced card" so he should summon the whole board and then buff it once
>>558582592Sorry, it was the first thing that jumped out at me.
>known anonsoh no, please spare the sacred avatarposts for the avatarposter
>>558582880wouldnt be an issue if we had thread ids like in moeor that bot that lets us verify game profiles so we can put our rank next to our posts
>>558582358I'm a man.
BA outside of /bag/ should be an instant permaban
>>558583162Or you could just simply use discord??
>he redeemedBricked
post kot then
Hmm. i will nyot do that
>no argument>start deflecting to off-topicmany such cases
Kill and rape gachaniggers.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/bwo/Kill and rape gachaniggers.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/nyo/
>>558583559https://x.com/MashigiVT/status/2026356457911009651
You are playing a gacha game little bud>300 rolls for 1/3 cosmetic
>>558583678uh, nyo!
Cosmetic /=/ gachaGacha as a genre requires the gambling to contribute to gameplay progression.The reason it is called a "lucky chest" is because conceptually it fits into the lootbox category rather than the gacha.
it's gacha if it has roll/pull for 10, pity at x, hard pity at y
>my daily chore simulator with seasonal banners is totally not a gacha because I say so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gashapon
Opening card packs is the original gacha little manWhere do you think your cards come from?? Are you manifesting them with your mind??
>>558584017holy cope
Uh oh the gachatards found my post. Disabling comments and muting this post now.
>>558584419you could do this if this was moe/alt
And then you would be talking alone after muting every single "post i do not like"That is why alt chans are dead, Surprise!!
>>558584906If I don't like something it is my right to block it and ignore it
alright im bored of apocalypse pact whens the next set out
>spammed aggro abyss to get my bp to 40>redeemed the Sofinai now have the optimal leader loadout
WHEN IS THE SET
What's the first new deck you're building tomorrow?
>>558585478evo forest
>>558585478Portal
>>558585478monkeypox abyss
>>558585478Ward haven with 1 new card
>>558585459Pretty sure it's in 11 hours and 30 minutes.
>>5585854786 armes
>>558585478Ramp dragon or egg with a couple of cards changed from new set. I'll have 90% winrate as usual against retards playing bad meme decks that are entirely new cards. This set in particular, without much power creep or nerfs, will have the previous decks be strong as fuck. The only problem will be all in hyper aggro decks, as those can always take a game from you if you brick.
i'm a retard and saved my evo for sv3 instead of preemptively evoing eudie.thankfully his sinciro was only three fuses, i hadn't been counting. and i outskilled him with revive tuning grabbing a zwei.then i outskilled him again when oluon hit zwei a puppet and his own face. thank god he didn't gamble on me not having orchis
>>558585896damn you have no soulI'm gonna play the new meme rune deck because it's gonna be fun to figure out if I can make it work, don't give a shit about winrate before CR
>>558585478i'll netdeck the strongest abyss one
>>558586126I'll always do this when they give my class shit cards. Don't want me doing this? Don't give my class shit cards.
>>558585478whatever pros go on a 15 streak with first because i have no soul or identity
>>558585896i will enjoy farming you eggsissies with Armes and ntr'ng your Erntz
the time it took for him to write that out, take the screenshots and stitch them together is probably enough to play another game
>>558586023Another win for the good guys!
Did this game economy improve at all in the end?.Or am i gigadoomed.
>>558586620the economy was fine but you're fucked if you quit at launch because you thought it was bad
The auto-evo shit ruined the game.
>>558585478DISCARD/fish
>>558587008TRVKE
>>558586620If you took 6+ months off you'll have to play a cheap deck like Milteo OTK for a month or two to build up resources. The economy is completely fine once you get started, it just has some growing pains.
i feel like there might be some gibs coming up with the rotation too but who knows
>>558587461So the game still doesn't respect my time at all.I bet you can't make more than 1-2 seasonal decks even if you ''farm'' daily.
>>558586620Returning was fine for me, I returned last week, used a few of my vials to complete a deck and have been playing fine since. I'd hate to return if I didn't have tens of thousands of vials saved though.
>>558587614you're not supposed to be able to get everything, that's the beauty of these games
ok good enoughi wish i didn't slack the first half of the set so i could have gained cr from the start of the season instead of wasting time hitting gm. i didn't expect to have multiple decks i liked but the aria buff was greathopefully i get the new rune leader from free packs. i don't feel like spending for her when the other leader is a brick
I have 350k vials, I'm saving up for sv3
>>558587538They announced them, yeah
its just so peak... now if only i didnt take a break and not be in emerald games lmao
>>558588098did they? i thought they only announced anni gibs and the newcutie fake cards
nice
>>558588216Swordchads roll with the punchesHavenheretics cryForestfrauds constantly cry no matter what
>>558588137don't you mean beak?
>>558588185Right, sorry. I thought both start in May.
>>558588216i lost to getting hit by oluon twice on turn 6 as expected
end of thread poalhttps://poal.me/4o9vjshttps://poal.me/4o9vjshttps://poal.me/4o9vjs
Are we redeeming now or maintenance will end before reset?
>>558588689Maintenance ends exactly at 2 am cst for me which is reset
>>558588689It ends in 11 hours
>>558588689>>558588745Which is NOT reset, I meant NOT! I'M SORRY!
>>558588686forestbros it's not looking good for us...
Good nonnys come to the lobby
>>558589419I'm still at work for another hour and 30 minutes...
>>558589419Already there~
>>558589473Your phone??
im a bad guy so i dont go to the lobby
>>558589562The more I play on mobile the more I don't like it...
I'm a bad girl should I go to the lobby?
>>558589824yes
>>558589824Yes, but you are now my shadoba gf
I just want Artifact to be competitive. I don't need T1.. But T2 would be nice..
>>558590024>>558590024>>558590024>>558590024
>>558556871Why does forest always get the hottest cards?
>>558558876Milk truck
>>558564981new evo forest will at best be viable but not strong
>>558587963good job!
>>558585478ENHANCE sword
