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The Nightmare is ongoing... >>558550203

Tiph's censored ass edition

>Tiphera (NEW) Character PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btU93p-ft0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg1sP1WIWlg
>Balance Adjustments for Season 2
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11909138
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12011077
>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
>Dev notes 02/04
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12012929

>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Current Featured Banner
[ Tiphera ] Order - Controller
Rate Up Period: 02/25/2026 - 03/18/2026

>Upcoming Featured Banners
Presumably Rita, the catgirl

>Current/Upcoming Events
Spiral Tower of Screams (Beta)
New Season - Seed of Karmic Fire | 02/04/2026 - 04/08/2026

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry

>Deckbuilders
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
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Reminder that trannies want you to shut up because they know that complaining works.
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Tips here? I have no idea which benefits me more. I have the Quantum Seed Epiphany that generates 3 if that matters
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Is there a team that doesn't use Nine? I don't have her aieeee
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>>558588435
The panty peek one is better
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Seething gooner doomjeets cry more over censorship
HopeCHADS won bigly, hopefully they make Tiph less sexualized and you third worlder poorfags finally fuck off
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I love this card and it is also the prettiest in the game. I am very happy with Tiph.
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>>558588435
by me
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>>558588679
I would go with right. Currently you want to avoid ending up in situations where some of her cards might clutter your deck.
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>>558588714
I hope all gooners realise that they're not the target audience anymore and fuck off back to browndust
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>>558588696
Dunno I'm fucking limping through the chaos and the event boss is just impossible with my lineups. I wish the next character makes clearing this shit easier because I didn't want to roll for Nine and just don't have her
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I want big hands lady and instead we are getting a time traveling cat.
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>>558588842
Makes sense, thanks
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>>558588853
This so much this CZN is for White man only.
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>>558588516
>Come back here tomorrow and telll us all the meaningful discussion you're bringing to the table.
Yeah "meaningful discussion" in this general...as in 1 post asking a question every 1-2 hours, that's this thread's current natural state 3 days after a patch launch, when there is no drama to talk about.
Maybe you forgot but the entire reason this game had any traction to begin with was because of the Owen drama and free gibs.

Meanwhile the censorship discussion is about making sure the devs don't cater to western sensibilities and political correctness which you're strangely against, almost as if you want the game to change to suit you...hmm.....
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>>558589067
>white man needing koreans to make games for them
is this cuck or chad behavior
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>>558581002
why is everything else ass?
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>>558588569
AND they know it already worked before with Nine
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>>558588905
>>558588696
>he fell for the don't roll for Nine meme
HAHAHAHAHA BRICKED
enjoy not getting to play until s3
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>>558589153
>almost as if you want the game to change to suit you...hmm.....
He says while demanding devs to cater to his needs and desires
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>>558589309
Maybe cat lady will save me or otherwise I will just bear with it
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>>558589153
>Meanwhile the censorship discussion is about making sure the devs don't cater to western sensibilities and political correctness
There is nothing wrong with the game pivoting toward white people society
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>>558588740
I like all 3. Is it E2 when Kayron gets a huge power spike? Maybe I'll go with that since I haven't used the dupe crystal from the previous event still.
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>>558589153
>Yeah "meaningful discussion" in this general...as in 1 post asking a question every 1-2 hours, that's this thread's current natural state 3 days after a patch launch, when there is no drama to talk about.
Surely at least one of those hourly posts will be yours right? Since you care so much about this game.
Get a fucking grip.
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What if the devs wanted to change the art of their own free will? You'd want to censor their vision for more pantsu?
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Least obvious disingenous posts
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>>558588853
>browndust
Got censored lol
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>>558589768
Good. Im glad to see the CZN devs doing the same.
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>>558589768
And then people complained and it got reverted.
Because complaining works.
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>>558588435
Is this censorship when you have Tiph flashing her whole ass and panties in her battle pose?
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>>558588569
Based and intelligent Eddaposter.
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Can you build Tiph as DPS?
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>>558589768
Only in Germany because krauts are cucks.
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>>558588435
Real talk, you're going to see this more than that to begin with.
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>>558589910
maybe cuz of iOS/android, they look for assets like PNGs/JPGs and pay less attention to animations
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Is cat limited?
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>>558589910
That is that and this is this.
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>>558590041
They said there is no limited unit this season, but you never know because gooks promise one thing and then don't really keep that promise half the time. Likely there still won't be
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>>558589910
Yeah, although it's a miracle she isn't wearing spats
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>try to build a support deck
>end up with another Nine deck
>repeat
the nightmare is ongoing...
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>>558589910
It's not censorship because there is no proof they were forced to make the change
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>>558589985
Getting her mindbreak art is a matter of principle. Having it censored is an inch for the censortranny redditors and we can't have that.
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Can you guys link me to some artists who regularly draw CZN? The tag on pixiv is pretty slow to update so I'm assuming the artists are posting elsewhere.
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wtf this new boss is crazy strong he just ruined my run
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>>558589910
It's censorship because a more lewd version has been proven to exist, and we did not get that version.

None of the argument about the "quality" of the censorship matters. The absolute undeniable fact is that for some reason it *was* censored, and we cannot allow SmileGate to think that is okay.
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>>558590268
I'll piggyback this and ask which tag is the right one on pixiv, as both #chaoszeronightmare and #kaosuzeronaitomea have unique images in them. Is there any good way to see all except to follow both?
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>>558590182
Well, building a Nine deck is easy because she doesn't need divine epis.
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>>558590338
This is lewder for me specifically, I'll be sad if they change
a bit of pantsu appearing like that is so fucking hot
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>>558590338
But it is okay?
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>>558589985
That's only true if you actually play the game and are not just jerking it in this screen
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>>558590338
Surely this means you're paying for the truck to park in front of their offices instead of just being an insufferable cuck in an anonymous basket weaving forum, yes?
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>>558590394
>I'll piggyback this and ask which tag is the right one on pixiv, as both #chaoszeronightmare and #kaosuzeronaitomea have unique images in them.
Bro, there's like 3 or 4 tags. I swear, every time I browse pixiv, I find a new "CZN" tag. There's the 2 you mentioned, Japanese and English versions of them, there's the fanart submission tag for the contest, etc.
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>>558590486
Jeets don't play the game because their phone would explode and they're too poor to own a computer so the mind break art is the best they're gonna get, no wonder they're so mad.
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>>558590338
Hot take the censorship version is better, if you want porn just watch porn.
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>>558590396
yeah, it's mainly the engravings that baits me everytime
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What's with all this "we" business? I just make wacky teams with my cute girls
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>>558590510
>insufferable cuck
Go back to Discord or Reddit, tranny.
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>>558590716
>>558590510
samefag
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How did we go from the entire general cumming to Tiphera to more than half on the general defending and asking for more censorship
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>>558590268
@konnzyou is basically the only one I know that does it enough, we simply don't have many artists.
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>>558590716
>if you want porn just watch porn.
Another tranny expat from Discord or Reddit.
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>>558590872
I think censorship sucks but I can't deny the censored image is hotter for me, my dick can't lie
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>>558590716
you're a faggot, just say that
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even stella sora gets more fanart than us and that game is gonna eos after a year wtf bros
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>>558590872
more than half on the general defending and asking for more censorship
White people woke up or just come back from work
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>>558590338
>any change that covers up skin for any reason is censorship
Do you put on clothes? If you do you're a self-censoring cuck by your logic
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>>558590338
>It's censorship because a more lewd version has been proven to exist, and we did not get that version.
Disney artists drew nudes of Disney princesses. Disney films not having nude princesses is censorship?
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>558591097
Is this really the best you shitposters can come up with?
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>>558590872
>to more than half on the general defending and asking for more censorship
Reddit and Discord woke up.
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>>558590872
Half the posts are baiting each other, I imagine anons on both sides are just repeating arguments they think will get the most (you)s
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>>558590872
It's just a bunch of mentally ill shitposters shitting up the thread like usual
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>>558591139
Yes, it is, but you're too retarded to realize that.
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>>558590872
You can blame smilegate and not knowing who they want to pander.
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You ever fat finger the wrong card on a menu?
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>>558591097
>Do you put on clothes?
Actually, no. I'm a home nudist.

>>558591139
>Disney films not having nude princesses is censorship?
Yes. I've seen the lewd Disney princess storyboards. Some of the lewd even still made it in, like part of Chel's blowjob.
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>>558590872
Contrarianism.
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>>558591353
Next they should release another male that will surely make people happy
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>>558590793
My bad I forgot the rupiah to won ratio isn't that great, sad to see that word struck a nerve though hope you can move on someday.
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>>558591251
>I imagine anons on both sides are just repeating arguments they think will get the most (you)s
you don't say
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>>558591356
okay but imagine the damage if you get both off in a turn
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>>558588569
Complaining on mainstream places frequented by thousands works. Go there instead of shitting up a place only 20 autists browse. If you think you are doing ANYTHING worth a damn by shitposting on /vg/ you are just as delusional as any tranny and just as unwelcome
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>>558590338
>post clearly states "this is censorship, period" regardless of whatever is your opinion on censorship
>objectively correct, you literally cannot prove it wrong
>every answer is just deflecting or being disingenuous
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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is Magna good in this chaos?
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>>558591460
you forgot your beluga pic
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>>558591378
>only home
>meaning he puts on clothes when going outside
Self-censoring cuck.
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>>558590125
>They said there is no limited unit this season,
In the English steam were they were interviewing a guy in Korean(?), right?
It seemed super obvious that he was confused by the question, because he answered something like "No, there won't be a seasonal character with a Christmas theme or anything like that."
I do not believe he understood what was being asked
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>>558591426
Sorry to disappoint but Vuln, Spores and Triangles only work for one hit and Softie only works for one card
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>>558591412
I have no idea what you're talking about, but it's the Discord and Reddit raiders that are pro-censorship who are the cucks. Imagine being a man and not wanting to appreciate attractive women. That's cuck behavior.

>>558591460
We are being raided very hard right now for some reason.
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>>558591645
you are replying to a literal known raider kek
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>>558591460
>it's objective because Anon said it's objective
You are objectively gay. You literally cannot prove it wrong.
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>>558591645
>reddit spacing
#nooticing
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How strong Tiphera? I got no Nine
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>>558591585
Sure and they've kind walked back on promises before too, so you should always be a bit wary of what they say
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>>558591715
If it wasn't censorship the post wouldn't have gotten 50 different flavors of "Ok but I still like it" as a reply.
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The hopejeets are really having a difficult time of this objective censorship of Tiphera, aren't they?
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>>558591792
Nice deflection gaybro
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they should add a for archetype cards there
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>>558591792
>50
where are these voices coming from.
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>>558591865
His name is Gayron, get it right.
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>>558590338
I find the pantsu peek much hotter than seeing the pantsu, but I'm willing to sacrifice that to get the uncensored version.
Mostly just to let them know, I came to this game in part due to fanservice, I stayed and invested in part thanks to the fanservice, and I will keep supporting Smilegate if they are willing to keep the fanservice and not tone it down.
Fuck censorship.
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>>558592067
>I find the pantsu peek much hotter than seeing the pantsu, but I'm willing to sacrifice that to get the uncensored version.
>Mostly just to let them know
That's really all it's about. The thing is, SmileGate also knows too. The guy in the livestream skipped over the 2nd mindbreak stupidly fast, but he was not shy about staying on Tiphera's idle pose in game. He knew that the 2nd mindbreak art was subject to censorship, that's why he skipped over it.
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>>558588435
I'll go for an extra mile by telling them to add touching reaction to perk lobby and base l2d, you can thank me later
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Bought the monthly + BP in support of this new direction SG is taking things. I hope they don't slip up and accidentally show something revealing next time.
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My Tiph doesn't generate enough archetype cards, it feels like her kit needs a bit of a fix to be able to create them easier
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Post yfw you're a failure but not as much as a developer of CZN, fucking up every single day
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>>558592248
>He knew that the 2nd mindbreak art was subject to censorship, that's why he skipped over it.
It was a pre-recorded video
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>>558592391
it was live, he was literally reading comments from chat.
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>>558592454
I mean the part where he showed the mindbreaks was a prerecorded video
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>>558592391
Why is every single thing that you hopejeets say just a blatant lie?
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>>558592248
>clinically insane headcanon
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>go to roll screen
>game even censors the banners now
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>>558592571
>https://www.youtube.com/live/I8JMu-LIhuQ?si=lNIiOqJqkPahAOfk&t=5271
>timestamp: 1:27:51 in case it doesn't link correctly
How is this not a pre-recorded video you fucking dumbass
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Ok dudes you have convinced me I shall write feedback to the devs to not be retarded with their censorship. Not gonna spam the thread further.
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So what are the conclusions?

From what I understood:
>Nine's fiasco showed they wanted to censor stuff
>huge backlash and they reverted quickly, as you could tell by the censored Nine lv15 event
>Tiph was also getting censored for this reason
>probably uncensored her live 2D but forgot to uncensor her mindbreak art
>this is proven by the sticker that they forgot to censor
Imagine the nuclear explosion if her battle live 2D didnt show anything and then players found about the sticker. Right now the response is still mild and just disappointment rather than full backlash.

In any case, it's weird, just revert it back to the uncensored version at this point.
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>>558592815
Yeah they should revert the l2d to have her pantsu covered up
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We're now at livestreams actually being pre-recorded videos. The gaslighting is insane.
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>skip nine because I want tiphera
>get nine on the standard banner with a single 10 roll

kek
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>>558592923
I wouldn't joke about it...
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>>558580939
Update: Winning bigly with this deck
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>>558593051
>nine releases
>lose the 50/50 to fucking yuki of all useless cumrags
>hard pity for nine
>tiphera releases
>lose the 50/50 and get nine
>hard pity for tiphera
i fucking hate this game, what even is the point of pulling
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>>558593159
show selena deck
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>>558590338
The touched up version could've been better but i know they're too gay for that.
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>>558590872
This general and the game itself has been getting consistently raided since launch.
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>>558593159
Nice, that's exactly what I was going to test first. But I don't have orlea so someone else will have to do. Thanks for reporting back that it's a strong list.
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>>558593181
Such is the life of us gacha-fags. Luckily this game is just actually fun with the rouge-like mechanics unlike other gachas where it truly is just a collectathon.
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>>558593252
Dayum, if only.
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>>558593159
>>558593337
Oh I forgot to ask. I assume you're playing hew flash? Since you are almost guaranteed to play from 9 to 12 exhasut cards every turn, you should go from baseline to level 3 every turn and slap hard, right?
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>>558593252
that would be kino as fuck, maybe half a year from now we will get something like this
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>>558593496
not him but with tiph you can play all 5 extremes in one turn actually, specially if you luckGOD
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>>558592694
You are so fucking stupid it's unreal. That's not what anyone is talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JMu-LIhuQ&t=4136s
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>>558593252
There's a point where the gooning is too far and just detracts from the experience.
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>>558593669
That's just a mindbreak art, the first thing you should notice is her being mindbroken. After you stare at it or see it multiple times you can appreciate the fanservice.

...Unless Nia mindbreaks and shoves her ass in your face, that is hard to ignore.
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>>558593636
I'm playing in like half an hour so I still haven't tested her, but are you getting 15 AP in one turn? That's wild.
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>>558593658
He didn't want to show off the mindbreak because it's part of the "end of stream hype trailer"
He showed that screen because it's a new feature for the profile banners
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>>558593840
No you just play Tiph with a card drawer like Veronica, draw all the Instincts to play Hews and then you raw dog one (final one since it costs 2)
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>>558593872
He showed everything else on that screen EXCEPT the censored mindbreak
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kot slave
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>>558593972
Yes, because showing the mindbreak is part of the hype trailer, like I said
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>>558594041
You're such a stupid hopejeet, man. The first mindbreak is part of the "hype" trailer too, and he had no problem showing it.
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>>558580939
>4 dupes - 80 points
>3 divine epis - 60 points
>3 basics removed - 60 points
Wait how the fuck is this 160 points?
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>>558594189
its 3 dupes = 40.
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>>558594189
the third dupe is 40 points bwo
60+60+40
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>>558594189
>4 dupes 80 points
? He has 3. So 40 points.
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>>558594189
That is three dupes.
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>>558593317
>This general
And it's gonna be even worse now if they leave discord for asking IDs, since trannies feel the most affected bc they think it's a complot from ICE to go after them
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>>558594270
????
There are 4 copies of Quantum Seed
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Is this truly a divine meta? Like if my repose isn't 1AP then I'm just waiting my time?
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>>558593248
It's rough but it gets the job done
>>558593496
Nah, I'm using Extreme, and I use the Fatal Strike with ignition. My thinking is that, if you could, you'd want to focus on buffs and debuffs for 10 turns and just do one huge hit to face at the end. I don't think there's much benefit from using Hew more times when you're stacking multiplicative damage anyway. So I just attack once each turn with max level Extreme, which gives me 3 big attacks to face.
Grain of salt though, the rank 1 guy is doing something completely different.
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>make a deck game for ryonafag
>try to censor it
I don't get it, it's like they don't know what kind of audience they want, is it really that hard to focus on one consumer base and give the slop they ask for? Be it the waifufag or the 'NEW normal' fanbase?
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yep, it's schizo deck time
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>>558594339
bro...
you have the base card
you copy it three times = 40
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Even with all the improvements I don't have the motivation to farm decks. It's such a fucking chore...
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Someone please spread hopejeet to plebbit and dicksword please that would be so funny
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>>558594451
does the baby become a full fledged hot woman in a couple years after its done cooking?
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>>558594393
They are a company, their objective is to make the most profits possible anon, and if they can try and fish from two ponds at the same time they will
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>>558594451
Preggo belly would sit lower than this. She's just a steroid user in this one.

>>558594393
30% cheaper, btw. We already know the audience that our Dawei wants.
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>>558594494
THERE ARE 4 OF THEM LOOK NIGGA LOOK
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I never built meiling, does anyone have an example deck
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>>558594392
Thanks for the insight. I didnt bother for the previous two bosses because farming was so cancer but I may actually tryhard this time because solving the boss seems like a lot of fun.
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>>558594726
Are you stupid?
No need to answer, it's a rhetorical question
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>>558594726
the rule is if you do the copy 3 times it costs 40 points did you get dropped as a child you fucking retard.
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>>558594726
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>>558594943
KEK
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To any tourist or newfags, don't mind the quality of the thread right now, we have been through some dry ass threads for a while and right now it is time to go fast.
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Speaking of copies, is doing 0 still better than the event map for the rare 4th copy event? I think I saw it once or twice in some 20 runs.
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>>558595040
I've gotten the copy event most of the time in the event chaos. Make sure you have the zero upgrade that increases rare event chances.
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>>558595040
copy event in this chaos seems to be about the same odds as any other chaos world. Purely based on vibes.
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>>558594736
it's just
>keep strikes
>unity = Move Strikes to hand
>Kick = for every Passion card used +1 hit
>copy as many unity as you can
>epi on Upgrade is the Passion Weakness one or the Crit one if you plan to use her on passion enemies exclusively
Rest matters little

You can remove her 2 cost purple card if you want
For the buffing card, the one that increases damage for every Passion card played is the strongest but other versions work fine too

You must play her with Veronica to make her shine and shes one of the strongest damage dealers in the game except in event bosses and tower because they have a 7-hit cap
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>>558595139
I guess I'm just never ever lucky, is all. Oh well. They should remake the whole 0 rerolling thing. It still sucks. It should be as cheap as the event thing.
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>>558595328
>I guess I'm just never ever lucky, is all. Oh well.
If it's any consolation, I can't ever get any of the epiphanies that I want no matter how many times I Meditate them. I have literally never meditated into the epiphany that I want, but I do usually get the copy event.
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So the way Tiphera's E6 works, she can attack and it won't lower the stacks of her damage buff, but teammates will still consume them if they attack. So theoretically you could make a hypercarry Tiphera setup, I saw someone doing 60k+ nukes with her. Not sure if it's worth it though
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>>558595813
>It's true, blondes do have more fun!
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>>558595296
Nah the new version deletes the basics and the move. They then just copy the ones that kicks for each passion.
No clue if it's better tho, I saw someone post it.
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>>558595510
Deck farming is still the most painful and tiring part of the whole experience. I wish they improved on it further. I want a guarantee that I'll get the deck I want in 1 run and not 50. I don't think that's too much to ask.
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I think the report function does not work
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>>558589059
More? Source?
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A generic epiphanies a recent thing? I swear I'm starting to see epiphany options with 2 or even 3 generics and it's fucking MADDENING
Do those retards seriously think 1 weaken is an equivalent substitute an entire fucking epiphany?
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>>558591356
Yeah, the other day I messed up and duped the wrong card on the most promising Rei deck I've ever built. Yeah it's my own fault, but every other goddamn menu has a confirmation prompt, so why not this one?
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>>558596310
Nobody knows the rates but I'm wearing my schizo hat that the generics were boosted to compensate for the meditate feature. It sucks.
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this affix system is cool but rolling the good shit on the deck that you want must be aids
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>>558595813
>Blonde women dressing for a battle to death with horror monsters in a mind numbing fog
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>>558594451
This is so unbelievably hot, Jesus
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>>558596310
I think they made it possible to get 3 generics in S2. I saw 2 at most before.
Some cards have more generics than others though, so you'll see more or less depending on what character you're building.
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>>558596310
>A generic epiphanies a recent thing?
LOL

Since the beginning of the game, it has always been that 2 of the 3 epiphanies for me are generic
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>>558594451
This raises an interesting question for me. Are there any gacha games that actually give you this? Where you can impregnate the characters and you get a pregnant artwork of them?
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>>558591737
She really only shines with big-hitters like Nine and Haru, but she also works as a Mika upgrade if you build around the Epi that only makes O Archetypes for AP battery and healing. Plus she's the only Controller that can consistently make shields right now. Plus, her Partner boosts party crit rate. Still probably not worth pulling for her now if you don't have Nine, Haru, or Kayron, but if she spooks you later there's more you can do with her than you'd think.
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>>558596726
>Since the beginning of the game,
This is bullshit. People only started noting the generic epis after Sereniel's release. Maybe they were a part of the game since launch but they definitely increased their appearance rate with Sereniel's patch.
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ok this Rift boss is actually pretty fun, I could probably do 400k x2 but gonna wait until I have some good decks
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>>558597029
>additive enhancement
brick
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>>558597014
I can assure you Anon, they were very much in play during the first rift.
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>>558597005
Being the only healer+shielder probably makes her worth having just for those chaos runs with the HP penalty
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GOD what a cutie.
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I built a shadow of the moon chorizo deck thinking I could use it for the first half but the boss has elasticity. Time to be a serenielchud I guess.
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Hold up, how are you supposed to kill the first part boss?
The head has like 80k HP.
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>>558597285
We can go even further beyond
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>Tiphera is a support that can generate shields

...Wait a minute, has anyone tried using her with Amir yet?
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>>558593669
I've read enough doujin to know the artist referenced a post rape panel.
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>>558588752
Playstation ass attacks
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>>558597109
No engraving but this probably salvages it...
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>>558593669
>gooning is too far
For that to be true, she would have to just be straight up naked. Uhh, grok, can you show an example for the class?
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>>558597647
Gotta farm SCS again Anon, get on it
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bwos... it's over for me, is it?
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>>558596465
they added to 2 full rerolls at least
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I wish modders care about this game
This pose screams missionary with mouth/armpit/belly/feet action
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>>558598203
You got like 20 days to save up
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These two are great kek
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>>558598551
>mouth/armpit/belly/feet action
This but all at once in a gangbang
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Bros… I’m… enjoying the story…Is it over for me…?
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Can't believe how hard I'm jobbing with Yuki/Tiphera, I need a third and don't say Nine because I skipped her
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>>558600103
I'm worried because I'm even enjoying reading Renoa here. This is very entertaining.
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Is first epi the best one?
5 looks nice but I assume it messes up with Vuln setups.
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>>558594451
>narja is a test tube "baby" and is some sort of chaos-human abberation
I genuinely wonder if she can have humanoid kids or if they would come out looking like chaos monsters. Either way, pregnant Narja cravings sounds like a nightmare to deal with.
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>>558598551
Is there a way to mod the PC version like they did with Blue Archive?
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are the procensorship bootlickers dead yet? I don't want to breath in the breath room as those disgusting shiteaters
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is the big guy easier on low difficulty?
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>>558600580
We're talking about story and gameplay for once Anon, but I'm sure you'll manage to derail it
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>>558600512
If you're using her with Orlea or Tiphera,, then yeah 1 is clearly the best. 5 is for dogwalking through Chaos, preferably with Ironclad. I don't know what good 4 is supposed to do for Nine. Even if you were running an Ambush build with Magna, I'd assume she could get a lot more out of 2 or 3.
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>>558597946
>got this instead of another dupe for a deck because I misread it
at least the deck is still solid.
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[-]
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>>558600794
i see they're still among us, I hope you get help getting euthanized.
>talking about story
kekeke
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>>558600669
I ran easy once for the BP target. His mechanics are still the problem. You just don't have to worry about him killing you while you continue to fail at him.
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I thought you don't like the story because its all dogshit rewrite?
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>>558600880
Thanks, I hope this is the one then.
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>>558601224
elaborate.
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>>558600669
If you have the immunity helmet you can probably keep hitting the right arm for free. Just don't alternate or you'll eat dirt.
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>>558601478
Huh? Are you new?
The game fired its first writer, who eventually went to write for Nexon.
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>>558597746
The good old days where I got agony with my ballista for Tressa synergy
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>>558600917
>kekeke
So that's who was behind all the shitposting
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>>558597109
how are you even supposed to tell?
isn't every weapon equip a dud compared to millennium arbor then?
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>test my new Tiphera, Orlea, Nine comp in the 2nd Distortion
>shit is crazy, I’m spamming Hews with all the AP Tiphera is bombing.
>Hew
>Hew!
>HE-
>you can’t produce more cards this turn
>>>Hew is gone forever and there isn’t any in my deck
Well FUCK
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>>558602339
It says +, that's addition, so it's additive
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SHIT the story is over. I wanted to keep reading....
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>>558596276
I SAVED FROM HERE THREADS AGO
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Does this mean the rewrite will be kino?
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Story was good. Except Renoa of course.
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>>558601696
No, I know about that.
I don't know how to put everything succinctly into 10 words or less, so I'll just cut most of it and say I was confused on if you were taking issue with people liking the current seasonal story or the first 5 chapters that were being rewritten.
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>>558602963
I liked Renoa this time around.
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>>558602986
Dude, if the first five chapters os a rewrite, everything is.
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>>558602563
3 weeks per story update is brutal. There has to be a better approach.
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>>558602563
only 3 more weeks until the next chapter.
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How did you guys build your Tiph?
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>>558602706
Yes
>>558602963
SPECIALLY* Renoa you mean
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surely this is good enough
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>>558603256
>>558603261
I can't believe the shift from garbage to actual fun storytelling. And Tiphera was well realized too. I liked the subtelty of every single character (on both chapters 1 and 2) prejudging her as "a murderer that couldn't fool anyone experienced" except the captain, of course. Especially when she explains that she's not happy about the choices she's made and the captain's understanding caught her offguard. Good shit.
They delivered a quality cutie pie here.
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>>558603332
This is mine for now. Amps up damage or spams AP like crazy. Feels like Stockpile items wpuld be useful
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Tiphera killed millions…
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>>558595296
Thanks,
what about equipment during runs, any must havs
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Kek
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>>558603723
>subtlety
I think the storytelling is a lot better than literally everything before, but I still don't think it's particularly good. It's gone from complete and utter garbage to mid at best. Tiphera is cute but her immediately falling for you because you're nice to her is retarded but I guess it's what the average CZN player wants
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>>558603332
>>558603831
This*
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Holy fuck Tiphera's ass distracts me a lot during my chaos runs...
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>>558604186
That detail in particular was subtle because they didn't brush it on your face and they don't explicitly bring it up.
>Tiphera is cute but her immediately falling for you because you're nice to her is retarded
This is to be expected so it doesn't particularly bother me, but yes.
Asterisk asterisk asterisk retroactively add a "for a gacha" and "compared to the previous story" asterisk asterisk asterisk to my post.
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>>558604419
Renoa literally brings it up like twice though, but fair enough yeah. I do think it's a step in the right direction and I'd like to see more of this. 3 week cycle per part is actually killing me though
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>>558602963
Nah, renoa is cute and crazy.
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>>558604186
At least now it's not something you immediately want to skip, even if the self insert captain is still written like a complete faggot. It's also a generic gacha routine where they try to cram all the new character related stuff to the few stories told during a season and then everything pretty much resets outside the main cast.
It does help though that the conflict in season 2 is happening in such a small contained scale, so there is a bit more room for it to feel like the characters are not rushing from one scene to another.
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>>558604943
Yeah, they should've picked a better enemy for the Tiphera 'reveal' though because they're trying to convince you that a Marshall is a big deal and that she's planetary level, only to then struggle against some generic mob lmao. If it was the big boss I'd at least kinda get it, but this is like a literal random elite mob.
I think the MC is still utter garbage but I doubt that's gonna change because gooks are in love with bland self inserts.
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>>558604561
I'm kind of into this, which was the point I was trying to make with how bad the original story was (that I read it out of pity honestly)
At least I'm into this enough to actually feel like reading the rewrite now, and I wasn't planning to.
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>>558605184
Asians liking these types of MCs still baffles me
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>>558605184
they should have just had captain start throwing hands with the monsters like he did earlier in the story.
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>>558605224
That's fair, don't let me stop you from enjoying it. I read it because I really want it to be good because I really dig the setting, but unfortunately it just isn't. I still think the rewrite is entirely overblown and a waste of time considering the main story ends with you looping back in time anyway, they just shot themselves in the foot by locking it behind such a steep level requirement so most people just thought it stopped after you beat Judas lol. I think the story is bad, but I don't think it needed a rewrite. Most gachas have terrible intros and I'd rather see them write new stuff since the drought of story in this game is really getting to me.
>>558605640
he threw hands with a plant, see how that turned out
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>>558597014
>This is bullshit. People only started noting the generic epis after Sereniel's release.
Nope!
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>>558605783
wasn't captain supposed to be the one that was mentioned to be giggling while beating up monsters with his bare hands earlier in the story, or did I misread that?
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>>558605950
That's what's implied, yes. Also Nine praises your combat capabilities despite thinking you were a wimp fighting.
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>>558605783
>I still think the rewrite is entirely overblown and a waste of time
Same desu. The first chapter is okay and the main story seemed to memory hole about everything that happened afterwards with the timeloop stuff. Just wave the chapters in between as shit and focus on making the stuff that happens afterwards.
It's not like something happened that would restrict what they can write, it can all be just said to be a fake future that got reset or be ignored alltogether
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divine is the best one here, right?
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So the new Arena boss part 2 is absolute dogshit right? The mythic gear it gives is legitimately terrible, is that the only one (the Judgement one)
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>>558603597
>AP
>not draw
Mines
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>>558606281
Dunno I couldn't even beat it and seems to be way too hard compared to the rewards
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>>558606380
please... no more...
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>>558606421
What are the rewards? I haven't done it yet
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best sereniel team for great rift? this boss sucks dick. i got the 500k but feel like my first team is lacking
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>>558606380
Vero is all the draw power a team needs
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>>558604419
>That detail in particular was subtle because they didn't brush it on your face and they don't explicitly bring it up.
I don't think they did a good job with it either because they didn't imply her background well, feels very similar to how Sereniel's part in S1 tried to imply there was some conflict to her character but that didn't go anywhere.

A lot of the plot is weakened by the awful job at contextualizing the world too: what exactly is the Marshall and what do they do in the empire? We don't need to be told exactly what the title entails, but simply having Nine and Renoa act surprised about it and epect the player to buy it is not enough. For Tiphera herself, we're just told some information about her past and have to take it at face value. We have an entire section telling us both that she is powerful and has killed a lot, as well as another one discussing killing a few for the greater good (which I assume is related to the egg but season 3 will instantly shift the focus to Rita so I don't think they'll bother bringing it back up) but neither of those things are ever shown in the plot, she doesn't even hurt anyone because Nine and Renoa kill the final cyborg and then we have a Nine flashback as if anyone actually remembered that random NPC.. I get that we have a lot of "for a gacha" moments in the plot but I actually feel that every season does not have enough content to showcase any character and that the only format that can actually work for a fun plot would be through Trauma Codes. I'm willing to bet whatever character we get after Rita will actually be a more interesting character than any S2 girl simply because she should get a code too.
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>>558590550
That's just P*xiv shit though. I remember looking for HSR Himeko lewds and these ricenigs occasionally just tagged "himeko" which of course was nearly useless
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>>558606529
I think it's Sereniel + Narja/Cassius + Rei/Selena. It's not too important since it's first half.
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>>558606542
And Narja cost reduction is all the "AP" a team needs. Draw is antibrick
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>>558588435
Threesome with Tiphera and Tiphera [Replicated]!
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Now that the dust has settled, what is the best Quantum Seed epipi?
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>>558606893
>Sereniel
>Selena
>>>>>>>Cassius
Nigga have you even looked at what the boss does?
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>>558607017
Call ot the proper term or I wont answer
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>>558594451
Putting twins inside Tiph!
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>>558607017
My seed inside Tiphera.
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>>558607106
im talking about first half and im seeing plenty of them in the top 20
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>>558606948
You always can use more AP, that's non-negotiable. More draw is literally useless depending on deck size.
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>>558589410
white people society deserve 0 human right,they only deserve gay and black lesbian pvp shooter
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>>558600529
Hehe, feeding the Nightmare to Narja to deal with her cravings.
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>>558606706
I don't want to imply that your points aren't valid, but for me it's serviceable enough and it fulfills my expectations so I'm enjoying it.
I do admit that your suggestions would improve what they are doing, and I don't want to sound like a slop gobbler either. Contextually speaking I wouldn't be satisfied with this level of storytelling on a different type of game.
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>>558607351
NTA but I think we can all universally agree that the gameplay for this game is the big reason people are sticking around rather than the story or something else
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>>558607149
Fine, epiphany
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Reminder that there's literally no pleasing gacha grail jeets and pags
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>>558607436
Yes. That and the cute tits and butts.
This is the only gacha I'm playing as well.
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>>558607196
F-Fuck
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>>558607529
After being disappointed with this game I reinstalled Stella Sora because I was really bored and I ended up actually really liking the story somehow. Tried Endfield too but that felt like a massive slog so I uninstalled that after beating the main story. I thought the main story for that game was miles worse than CZN which is really saying something
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>>558607436
They could completely remove the story and just do Trauma codes and I'd be fine with that. The story is already a dumpster fire, and Trauma is already the only part worth reading, might as well just double down. It might give people extra reason to roll for cute girls too
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>>558607249
>you can always use more AP
You can easily run out of cards to spend AP on in optimized decks, especially with Narja. That deck's average card cost is 0.33 already
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>>558607454
Thank you.
Unfortunately I have no idea what the best epipi is
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>>558607773
NIGGERPIPI
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>>558607773
KEK
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>>558607017
This looks really good
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>>558607351
I get what you mean and I'm not going to act like I'm above the game because I'm playing and reading the story that I could just skip, but I do think they have a nice format with trauma codes since those are basically micro VNs and we should get more than just 2 every season. I also think Korean writing tends to be snappy and good at working with a more active narrative and they should lean into that more for the seasons.
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I don't understand how people are in the leaderboard with Sereniel. Isn't this boss designed specifically to counter her? I tried and he beat my ass into the ground.
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>>558608192
All fair points anon.
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>want to play CZN
>keep having to stop to jerk off because tiph ass makes me horny
please send help, I have jerk off 4 times today...
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>>558608414
This is why they tried to cover her up
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Does Tiph work with Kayron?
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>>558604186
i cant rate this dogshit story unless i can read their story revamp yet
from what i see they wanna copy nikke story in this shit
they tried to make reona like rapi without making her actually insteresting char to read,she is just mad whore
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>>558608485
Yes. This epipi goes insane with Kayron because it lets you exhaust 3 futilities wherever they are
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>>558608587
Oh cool, Who's the third member? Uhhhh Mika?
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>>558603256
At least it's not Limbus.
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>>558607725
In Nine teams mostly I find that I never run into a situation where I would turn down additional AP
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>>558608681
The bilibili showcase vid I saw posted a few threads ago had Orlea as the third member. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xBftBTEnr/
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>>558608587
I wish we had more cards that could exhaust any card.
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>Nine, Tiph, Kayron for maximum exhaust chomping
Could be fun.
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>>558608782
jesas
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>>558608782
>Orlea
Ahh time to finally pop this...
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>>558608782
Crazy stuff.
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Orlea doesn't seem as important to Nine teams as I initially thought. That blue weapon that applies vuln basically replaces Orlea's entire use case and just lets you swap her out for someone like Veronica
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>>558608929
This is the team I have in mind for the gigaboss.
I already built my Narja, Nine and Kayron team and it was fun but this should take it to the next level. Just have to figure the decks out.
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how the fuck did I avoid every male but Kayron
Im happy Kayron is my bro
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>>558606212
Yep
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Nine+Tiphera+???
who am I supposed to put in the third slot?
orlea is too much support/heal, so is there really only narja and veronica AGAIN?
how about these fucks create a few more characters than just alternating main dps and healer for once
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>>558609894
It's always veronica babyyyy
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>>558609894
Yuki
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>>558597786
Just tried a Tiphera, Amir, and Nine run. Feels like there's some potential there, but I couldn't get a decent deck. Hew didn't even get an Epiphany and all Amir got were generics. It was nice being basically untouchable though, so I'll probably try running it again.
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how do you get to the new extra boss?
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>>558610202
There is a new option in the interior arena
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>>558609894
Luke if you want to Flash like a motherfucker. It's my new favorite team.

>>558610202
Once you unlock it in the new event-exclusive upgrade tree, you get the option of "Proving Your Worth" at the Interior arena gate if you already cleared the Exterior one.
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>>558610249
>>558610293
thanks
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>>558594002
Hopefully she's playable and good. I've been waiting for the big tiddy blonde tomboy from this season key visual but she ended up being only a partner.
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>>558594002
It's weird how they keep calling her a "child." Must be a translation issue.
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I want to cum in Tiphera's panties and make her fight while drips down her leg.
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>>558610764
stinker
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>>558610764
Miss Sandvagina shouldn't be calling out anyone as long as her cooch reeks of Owen's cum
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>>558589597
DON'T E2 KAYRON.
Kayron is one of the best one-punchers right now, which is perfect for rift. However, the AoE of his E2 will ruin your chance of hitting the golem's head.
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>>558610970
Whalesisters…
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>jeets asleep
>general is usable
insane
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how the fuck do you kill the boss in the 1st phase wtf
senmetsu is not enough
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>>558611443
>senmetsu is not enough
I don't understand how it works at all. I'm kind of filtered. I'm looking at their decks in the leaderboards and I just don't get it.
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>>558610504
shes gonna be a partner of someone we haven't seen yet.
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>reach the copy event
>literally EVERY other card in all of my decks has epiphanied
thanks
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>>558610627
>Must be a translation issue.
it almost certain is, the word for someone that's young and child is the same in korean its just context sensitive, they are basically addressing her as young one or youngster, also a korean thing.
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this nigger game man, Nine recovered from the mind break but i didn't get her Hue back and that fucker got fortitude so the normal attacks can't clear, fuck fuck fuck i can't fix it right?
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What's the install size for this on phones?
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>>558612109
7gb
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>>558610627
>>558611975
I haven't read the story, but "child" can also be a sort of derogatory somewhat sarcastic way to refer to someone, and it can also be a sort of endearing way for an elder (especially a mentor) to refer to someone younger than them especially if they taught her.
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>>558608274
If you break the boss's bar, I'm pretty sure the passive Day/Night things stop triggering
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>>558612054
>no deluge
you're done for.
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>>558610764
Captain be sniffing
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>>558612054
Pray Nine isn't the one getting mindbroken with his final attack and kill him next turn.
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>>558612054
Mika's the one getting mindbroken next turn, you can tank it
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Bottom is better, right? Top implies additive while bottom is multiplicative I think?
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>>558612946
For Nine? Yes. Top would be better for like Narja.
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>>558612725
>>558612751
I choked it man, probably could've cleared if i didn't panic and got pissed about it and just crit fished for the clear, it's literally the worst modifiers to get that nigger bug on, 40% hp dmg + fortitude, time to fiucking sleep i guess
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>>558613198
You can always restart the turn.
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S6 Tiph is a DPS
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>>558613706
>13k defense based damage
ogey
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>>558612054
Nigga who tf is Hue
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holy fuck the new rift is not fucking around. genuinely insanely hard.

you need some survivability but also IMMENSE damage to kill the 1st part. I could barely do it and I use the standard senmetsu spam team and it required ALL my brain cells to try and optimize the damage when the head is vulnerable

2nd phase is also fucking dumb, the head goes hiding again after playing a bunch of cards, I assumed I could go for the oneshot meme combo to delete each hand and then the head but nope

got my 800k, hope its enough for diamond, and sayonara. this is extremely autistic, I bet the top players will enjoy it but I have a personal limit.

also there's a Haru in top 10, how the FUCK did she kill the boss in phase 1, I imagine shes E6 since she has Anchor Pointers giving retrieve
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>>558614097
HaruGODS are just built different.
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>>558614097
People complained about the last rift boss not doing anything
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>>558613706
I'm really tempted to roll for c6. I could get it if I wanted to.
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>chaos attempt 1: don't get cards in time
>chaos attempt 2: don't get epiphanies in time
>chaos attempt 3: get everything, but not the copy event
bros... i want my two hours back...
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im finding the head is only exposed on the same turn you break the arms so I guess you have to time it to break them at the start of the turn and figure out how to have a bunch of one turn firepower left over for the head?
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>>558614097
you discount anchor to 0 with narja and it's 0 the whole turn, so E2/E6 don't do anything. that guy is a streamer he's uploaded the video one-turning nebula boss he plays anchor fifteen times in one turn.
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>>558614097
It's just not very well designed because it's only viable to use a few characters of the entire roster to clear it and if you don't have them, you are pretty much fucked
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>>558614774
the worst part is if you kill the hand EOT with a ballista the head leaves immediately and you get completely fucked.
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>>558610764
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am so mad that i can't sleep, i need to destress. might be a league game angle
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>>558615421
Bro? You forgot a copy.
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>>558610970
Thanks for the warning, I'm doing a few runs with them first before I decide who to upgrade. I'm inclined to get at least E1 on Nine because being able to target her 1c skill sounds very convenient.
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Finally managed to build a basic Tiphera deck and while I'm liking her in constructed content, she has to be one of the most miserable characters to run on chaos, some characters feel bad until you unlock their full deck, but Creation and Destruction(actually pretty good chaos card) is the only one of her cards that doesn't need archetypes to work and only seed generates them so she actually feels awful to play until you trigger epiphanies on your other cards. I think they should buff her basics to generate a random archetype, even if it was % based or in the discard pile, at the very least.
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>>558588435
skipping all non-Tiph dialogue!
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>lvl 50 not even promoted
Just how much damage can she output when fully built?
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>>558615421
>destress by playing league
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>>558614097
It can't be that hard if spore Beryl is rank 5
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>>558607017
depends on the team
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thank god we only have to wait one more week
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>>558616634
>early access
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>>558616634
>we
Wrong board and site, retard.
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>just let me mmmm casually fill your deck with shit every turn
I hate this
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>>558616634
Who is their Tiph character?
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>>558616634
>he didn't learn his lesson from Darkest dungeon 2 or Frostpunk 2
Enjoy the disappointment.
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>>558616389
does cube even apply to extra attacks?
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>>558617043
I don't even know what those are
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>>558616389
tbf that team is stacked
>+18% attack refinement
>double tentacles
>dominion
I wonder how much damage he's doing per hit
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>>558616634
Does this have titcows and flatties like goty zero nightmare?
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if i copy a card that is not epiphanied and then epiphany one of them into a unique, can i get that same epiphany on the other card even if it’s technically unique too? i want narja for my mei lin with voluntary control to put it on both basic attacks
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Tiph can Slay my Spire II if you know what I mean.
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>lose hard pity to meilin
Ig i will just wait for tenebria for my kayron
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>>558607152
Uoooooh
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>>558617825
Nope, that epiphany won't come up on the other card. You can get the other unique epi on it though, which may be worth doing.
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>>558616634
ive had a lot of people preach to me that i should just play sts but i specifically enjoy czn *because* of the gameplay *and* the anime aesthetic. sts is so fucking ugly and idc that you can mod it to look different, that just makes it inconsistent
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>>558618390
hmm okay, i guess one for the voracity and the other for basic attack dmg, thanks a lot :) one good thing about being sick and off work is you can farm a good deck
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>>558610764
Planet destroying ass.
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>>558602963
Story is typical mc wank like your anime isekai harems. We even have a slave catgirl now.
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>>558616634
So who will fuckoff from here?
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>>558619105
What's wrong with that?
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>>558619437
That slave catgirl is most definitely heavily used goods.
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>Our big tit cat wife got endlessly plapped and raped by big dicked lizard men 24/7
Kanchou...
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The lizard men? all me
The space pirates? guess what, all me too
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>>558619105
>protos is slave owner
Based Protos is confirmed a white man
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>>558619786
why did she forget about us
what trope is this
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The catgirl? Also me.
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>>558619916
Don't forget the big bad wolf
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Now that the dust has settled, what is Tiphera's tier in the /czn/ tierlist
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>>558620205
Bwo, the Rita that saved us was clearly from the future. She was LOOOOOOOPING.
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>>558609340
this goes crazy with with khalipe also running it and tiph/mika so you can play raw hews since activating by fighting spirit doesn't proc celestials.
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>>558620285
ooohh thats it isnt it?
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>>558618418
not everyone can appreciate good gameplay
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>>558614097
Got 470k with autobattle. That is good enough for me. I am not doing that shit manually lmao
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>>558596402
Give me a bit. This question has been something I haven't seen answered anywhere as well.
I'm going through the db files to see if there's pattern I can intuit, then figure out the epiphany rates (they call it 'spark' internally).
I found the db file for the common sparks called r_spark but not sure about the unique card sparks. From what I can see each spark has a 'ratio value', ranging from 1 to 10. Most sparks are 10 but a few are rarer (e.g. AP sparks are rated 3).
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>>558620267
Powercreeps Rei, but Narja already did that anyway lmao
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>>558620440
I'm sure I'd love the gameplay but I think the game looks very ugly and I don't mean that I want the game to be unreal engine particle spam, but I do like CZN specifically because of its anime artstyle.
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>>558615092
Narja does what?
those cards are still discounted even if you draw them to hand?
Which epi is that i thought they were until used?
damn and i thought there was no reason to play haru with nine around.
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>discount save data
>goes over limit
>waste a copy
Fug.
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>>558616389
>>558617245
Where is the guy that said Beryl would never get nerfed because she wouldnt make it on the leaderboard?
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>>558609340
>skipping on this
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>>558620764
current leaderboard is temporary, theres lots of builds and a bunch of different characters
id wait the last week to see if everyone is using the same stuff like they were doing in rift 1 and 2
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>>558609340
Extra vulnerability is still useful for those hits other characters eat up, especially with things like ballistas.
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>>558620534
>the game looks very ugly
Guess it's just personal taste, I'm not a fan of how stiff and dead the models are in 1 but we actually have animations in 2 so I'll be buying it.
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>>558620764
That's like saying Mei Lin would get nerfed because she was in week 1 leaderboard. I wonder if the Beryl team will keep its spot after Tiph and others get better decks.
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Im gonna use renoa and cast nias ego skill to kill the head just you wait
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>>558620508
It always felt like that, for cards with 1 clear best epi, that one was always rarer.
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its kinda lame they make all upgrades unique now and when they arent they have (1 time) effects on them so you cant smuggle multiple out by rerolling epips
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>>558621554
Except Beryl is a 4 star poverty combatant that can easily clear all the content in the game instead of making people spend their money on 5 star combatants that the content is tailored to make people buy.
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They should nerf Bery, only my wife Mei Lin is allowed to be good and easy to acquire & build
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>>558620791
how many characters naturally have 2cost or higher exhaust cards, let alone even having access to them?
Just Nine?
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>>558621726
Yeah, it was fun having busted upgrades duped to the gills
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>>558616634
with how disappointing was darkest dungeon 2 my expectations are low.
>early access
yeah I'm gonna wait for full release thanks.
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>>558622383
Khalipe, Haru?
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Does the left epiphany draw 2 if you activate harmonization? Either way right seems to be the best one, right?
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>>558622886
right is the best
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>>558622886
no left only draws one, idk if its a glitch or working as intended but thats how it works now and yeah right is way better.
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>>558616634
>can play both
are you even an idort?
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>>558622845
They don't have exhaust cards.
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>>558622886
The whole card is kind of a brick desu
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>>558622845
its 2+ EXHAUST cards, not 2+ cost cards OR exhaust cards, so it has to be both a 2+ cost card and have exhaust. Unless I'm retarded and just not reading it correctly again.
IIRC none of Haru's cards are exhaust, but i dont know about Khalipe.
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>>558621676
Ok this might be it. It's in a file called constant_metagame.db
This is how I understand it: when the game wants to spark/epiphany a character, it picks a random card from their card pool (I haven't found how they do this). If that random card isn't sparked yet, the base version gets added to the deck. If it has, then you get offered 3 choices of upgrades.
If the chosen card was the starting 4th card, each of the 3 choices has a 25% of being a public/generic spark. 75% of the time, it picks from the pool of character-specific upgrades.
If the chosen card was any of the uniques (except the 4th unique which you can't upgrade), each of the 3 choices has a 35% chance of being a generic spark instead, meaning you will only hit the character-specific spark 65% of the time for each choice.
I also see nothing in here that determines how likely a particular character-specific spark to appear if you hit that 75% or 65% chance. I think it's safe to assume it picks from the 5 options equally, and if you happen to hit that 75% or 65% in two or more cards in the 3 choices, the game will also ensure the character-specific sparks are different from each other.

Interestingly there is also these values:
spark_rare_card_pick_ratio [80,60,1]
spark_legend_card_pick_ratio [17,25,1]
spark_unique_card_pick_ratio [3,15,1]
No idea what they mean. The columns add up to 100, meaning it has something to do with rolling for a specific rarity. but no idea what the three values in each row imply.
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>>558617910
>Uoooooh
You can't fucking say that, that is a pedophile dog whistle. You are banned from this sub permanently.
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>>558623362
>If the chosen card was the starting 4th card, each of the 3 choices has a 25% of being a public/generic spark. 75% of the time, it picks from the pool of character-specific upgrades.
>If the chosen card was any of the uniques (except the 4th unique which you can't upgrade), each of the 3 choices has a 35% chance of being a generic spark instead, meaning you will only hit the character-specific spark 65% of the time for each choice.
>I also see nothing in here that determines how likely a particular character-specific spark to appear if you hit that 75% or 65% chance. I think it's safe to assume it picks from the 5 options equally, and if you happen to hit that 75% or 65% in two or more cards in the 3 choices, the game will also ensure the character-specific sparks are different from each other.
25% or 35% and I constantly hit them... bweh...
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>>558623746
Deserved for posting M** L*n
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so Tiph has three builds
gayron support
big dick damage support
sustain/ap
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>>558623903
You forgot this build
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Uhhh, which Chaos difficulty am I supposed to farm? Still VII?
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FFS MY YUKI DECK DIDNT SAVE
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>>558624217
yuki?
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>>558623362
>spark_rare_card_pick_ratio [80,60,1]
>spark_legend_card_pick_ratio [17,25,1]
>spark_unique_card_pick_ratio [3,15,1]
Could they be the probability of getting a particular epi card? Because the odds are definitely weighted somehow. I've never seen Oni Hunt come up as the first card in a run, for example.
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>>558610764
*inhale*
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>>558624294
That gives me an idea. This is how the game chooses which card to spark, and it could be related to be where you are in the Chaos right now.
So before you fight the first boss, when a character would spark, the game will 80% of the time choose a rare card (4th starting, and 1st or 2nd unique), 17% of the time choose a legend-tier card (3rd unique), and 3% of the time choose the unique-tier (4th unique).
After the first boss (Interior) up to and including the final boss, the likelihood becomes 60%, 35%, and 15% respectively.
If the player enters any further acts beyond that, any tier is equally likely (i.e 33% each).
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This is such a comfortable team, heals and shields for days
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Truth be told I won't be satisfied with CZN's gameplay until it looks like I'm operating a nuclear launch panel by myself only to end up dealing like 2 damage because the modifier gives the enemy infinite fortitude when you don't kill it in one hit on turn 1
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Can I finally stop farming for the day?
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>>558624840
This explains why sometimes the game warns you may not actually get any further epiphany for a character when you get an encounter reward for "Trigger epiphany for 1 character" or through the pocket watch item, even though you still have cards to spark. The game actually pre-rolls the rarity of the spark a character would get before entering any node, so in act 1 if the game rolls a rare-tier spark, but a character already has all rare cards, there is nothing to spark
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why is this additive shit here
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>>558625339
for magna the whore who likes to have sex multiple times in a row rather than one big sex session like nine
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>>558624840
Yeah, interesting. That seems accurate in my experience.
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>>558623903
you also forgot retain build.
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Just started this game.

Seems fun but too few lolis.
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Just started this game.

Seems fun but too many hags.
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>>558625815
Zero lolis and we'll never get one. Best you get are teens with massive thighs, plump asses and moderate breasts.
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>>558625815
>>558625887
Play the damn cards
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>>558625815
>>558625887
If you don't love giant tits.
Get out.
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>>558625815
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Just started this game.

Seems fun but too few males and furries
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Any tips on what I should prioritize buying with these gazillion of different currencies?

Also damn that's evil.
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>>558626521
Tourist-kun...
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>gacha virgins

enjoy it
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>>558624286
the deck im building for her is for yuki
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>>558626521
just anchors, get an idea about the rest by doing the lvl missions
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>>558626521
Don't, buy the Coronomicon pass. Maybe the battlepass if you want to be scammed.
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I have one dupe left to do, do you think I should dupe quantum seed for more generation, or form convergence so I can draw more archetypes?
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please please please PLEASE PLEASE PLEAAASEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>558625182
>only 2 copies
lmaooo get back in there stupid
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>>558625182
What is the point of the retain effect when you have no spore cards?
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can someone explain to me how does the zero system work? I just unlock it but the game did a piss poor job at explaining what the fuck it is or how it works.
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>>558628115
Read Form Convergence.
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>>558628115
The Form Convergence acts as a totem and gets you the other two Archetype cards when that Quantum Seed epiphany is activated
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>>558615381
Fat fuck.
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>>558628205
>>558628216
Aah I see, is it that much better than using a regular creation draw?
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>>558627535
NEVER GIVE UP HOPE
THEY WILL BECOME COMBATANTS
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>>558628149
chaos on the planets only goes up to difficulty 6, zero goes up to 10. this lets you save decks with higher memory costs.
completing chaos in zero gives you a currency that makes chaos runs easier and unlocks features.
go into zero and click on 'codex' on the right, you'll roll a chaos with some extra modifiers. those modifiers will make it harder but further increase the save memory limit. you can do lower ones until you get more upgrades to make things easier, you also won't be able to get super high difficulties without getting higher exp on the planets.
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>>558628149
in return for adding modifiers to chaos runs that make it more difficult you can get better decks due to higher save data limits
worlds (along with enemy levels) + modifiers are randomly determined and you can spend currency to reroll worlds you don't like
the current seasonal event can be guaranteed to occur in zero system runs at your discretion even outside of the seasonal event chaos zone
over time you get meta progression currency for upgrades that make runs easier
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IS TIPHERA WORTH PULLING OR JUST WAIT
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https://x.com/NihahaXD/status/2026857007756751030
He's just like me...
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lmao, the fuck is this
why didn't Dino-guy warn me that Sereniel absolutely cannot do this fight

I cannot kill it if I don't do hits
and I cannot do hits because then I die
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>>558628759
>>558628853
oh ok so is like an endgame version of chaos then.
does running a zero mission count towards the chaos weekly quest? and does it level up the chaos world or I can only do that in the normal world?
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>>558629430
it counts as a chaos for everything, yes. it levels up the planet and their discovery rating as well.
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>>558629430
yes to all
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maybe I don't need this much AP...
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>unskippable grinding levels
>need current banner character to play event levels
>need current event chaos clears to play event bosses so all your shit before is useless
>but we made sure we have current banner character gimmicks in our chaos
>but we wont give you any pulls lmao
>everything takes 5 years to clear
>and we wont even let you finish your season pass passivly, you have to go out of your way to actually finish it lmao
EOS soon.
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I feel like event horizon should have retain, feels kind of awkward to use the way it is now.
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>>558630234
For chaos runs I agree, I would even trade the E1 buff for it to have retain instead.
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>We won't give you any pulls
Wrong thread sis, Endfield is two doors down
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Now we're pod racing.
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>>558630434
I couldnt pull nine and I dont have partnerts for her or the fish lady.
This game has no pulls.
This consides with needing the banner character to clear the gimmicks in current event. if you dont have the banner character, you cant clear the event and if you cant clear the event you cant get pulls.
Not to mention all the time wasters for daily and weekly tasks.
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>This game has no pulls
But enough about EOSfield!
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>>558630642
how long have you been playing and who have you pulled.
If you just started there is no way we don't have enough pulls in the base content for pity.
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>>558630789
since launch.
Somehow the problem of never enough pulls never occurs in NIKKE and I have played that since launch too.
And it has none of the other problems this game has of having huge timewasters that you need to run daily/weekly.
As much as I want to like and keep playing CZN, it doesnt respect my time or my efforts and it certainly doesnt respect my money either.
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>>558631086
...don't tell me you pulled for every single character + partners
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nerf this fuck ass boss
buff the rewards from getting it in chaos
buff all order characters (not nine)
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>>558631086
Because nikke gives you a shitload of rolls. I am f2p and didn't start until doro and have 14 pities saved and most characters. It can't really be compared to other gacha I've never played another that was as generous.
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>>558631435
why would that be bad maybe because THERE ARENT ENOUGH PULLS???? That is exactly what I have been saying. This problem never occured in NIKKE for 3 years.
>>558631650
This is why I will keep comparing games to the best experience I have had. There is no reason not to. Anything else is just stupid ass shit and you deserve to be treated better by your videogame.
If I'm treated like shit by your game, you certainly have no right to ask for money or bet on me giving you any.
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>Anonymous learns what makes a gacha game, a gacha game in the first place.
More at 11.
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>>558631809
Retard
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>>558632142
>>558632192
Nikke is also a gacha game
one that respects your time and money.
This game does not. Why do I need to lower my standards instead of chastising the game for being worse than its competitor?
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>>558632004
CUTE
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>>558632296
Nikke is a popular game so it can afford to be more generous. Dead shit games like this have to be super greedy because they have a lot less whales to milk.
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it should be very easy to buff tiphera, just make her more similar to orlea in a way you can get specific epiphanies that correlate to her specific shapes
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>>558632374
Hoyo is the most popular so why aren't they super generous?
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>Anonymous fails to grasp the difference in gibs is related to pity count, roll income and game systems.
We're gonna need to use puppets for him bros.
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>everyone in top leaderboard have Mika deluge card
/czn/ bros why are you lying to me you said deluge is huge brick.
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>>558632456
When you're the big dog you can set any rules you want and cucks have no choice but to accept.
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>>558632847
Yup yup YUP just like CHADos KINo KINGmare, now cough it up, cucky.
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>>558632835
deluge is a 1 cost 3 ap. Why would it be bad.
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>>558632835
W-well, y-you see uh…
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>>558632835
>you said deluge is huge brick.
No I didn't because my IQ is in the triple digits.
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hey post that screencap of the guy who said deluge is good that we’re supposed to laugh at
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>>558633336
that never happened we always said deluge is op
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I'll have enough for the titcat, won't I...?
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Nips loves it, Tiphera saved the game.
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have they removed the males yet?
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Still not sure how she works, but it seems like she's better Mika with her AP accumulation. Am I doing it right?
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i love looloos
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>>558634692
>so just put the panties out there from the start
TRVKE
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is Tressa the only agony based character? I swear I saw Sere have agony in some of her epiphanies but they are not listed on her card section.
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>>558636190
yes. you can get agony mods from normal epiphanies
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>>558636190
you can get agony from generic epiphanies.
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im going to puke from so much chaos
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>Sees a girl
>Immediately thinks of males
It's just that easy.
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I'm getting triggered by generic epiphanies.....
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>>558636227
>>558636252
there are generic epiphanies? are they listed anywhere? can I see what they are?
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>>558636190
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>>558636730
Ok but now go work on the seasonal upgrade system that unlocked with Tiphs banner.
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>>558637458
getting there..... slowly.......
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>>558636930
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/sparks
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Does this apply to all cards or just their own?
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>>558637778
The former is the character equipping it, the latter is whole team ("allies")
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>>558637778
if it says allies then it's allies, if it doesn't say anything about the allies then it's just for that character
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>>558637868
>>558637874
Thanks gang.
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>>558593159
nobody cares about your leaderboard autism chang
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>>558634692
Now post Tiph banner revenue
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>>558631086
>Somehow the problem of never enough pulls never occurs in NIKKE and I have played that since launch too.
Yeah, I only played Nikke for the first few months after launch, but Nikke was insanely generous by modern gacha standards. They had like 80 or 90 rolls at the launch, so I rerolled into basically a god account where I had all the meta character at the time (and characters that were meta that people didn't know were meta yet) and then I got Modernia when she came out, and when I quit during CSM collab I still had enough for 2 full pities. But the thing with Nikke is that it has real rates, so you can actually pull the unit early. CZN has the piece of shit Homoverse Chinese fake rates where you have basically a 0% chance of pulling the unit until you're already at pity... and then it's a coinflip. You're practically guaranteed to need to spend at least 60 pulls just to get a coinflip, and then it's a coinflip. You have practically no chance whatsoever of pulling any 5* early.

Someone here keeps saying this game is generous, and then they'll say shit like they have pulled for everyone and they still have 70k+ gems left, but I just don't see how that's possible unless they're a whale or a dolphin. I've had to double pity everything I've pulled for except Nine, and the apologibs ran out after they gave us 10 gibs because Sereniel was a Limited after they told us there would not be any Limiteds.
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>>558632835
KEK

I wasn't mentally filtering the Deluge argument because it was so stupid. Obviously it's good because it instantly pays for itself then disappears from your deck completely afterwards, and if the fights goes longer it eventually is a net AP gain. You'd probably prefer to not have it in most cases, but you have to keep 3 of Mika's cards, and those are probably the best 3 to keep. Ideally, she'd just be Sources of Waters and nothing else, but we can't have that.
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>>558637705
jesus christ there are so many, no wonder I can never get the epiphanies I want.
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ROLL TIPHERA OR NOT?????????
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>>558638572
The meme shitpost chart is going to be interesting. Tiph came out at the end of February, so you'll have the initial spending, but we wont see the full spending until the next month's meme shitpost chart, which will also include some Rita sales.

That's not even mentioning the fact that the meme shitpost chart has been purposely rigged against CZN since CZN first launched. The homoverse dramafags who maintain the shitpost chart are never going to include CZN's total combined revenue, and even if they did it still would not include PC sales.
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>>558639480
As long as the revenue is above snowbreak it seems fine, production quality is about the same and they are similarly niche with similar audiences.
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>>558639401
I kept saying this would be a problem that people would start noticing even more once they introduce epiphany rerolls. I kept saying that epiphany rerolls are just going to start making people aware of just how many generic epiphanies are clogging up the pool, and that a much better solution than epiphany rerolls would be to just remove generic epiphanies entirely (even though sometimes arguments can be made in favor of generics, like the ones that apply Vuln)
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>>558639420
yes
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>>558639616
Snowbreak's primary revenue is PC, either Steam or the standalone client, and the devs themselves even posted several times that people should play the PC version, so being above Snowbreak on the charts is not much of an accomplishment.
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>>558639480
First day is when new banners in most gacha games make 90% of it's money anyway.
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>>558639823
You're not wrong that most people spend on day 1, but it still wont show all of her revenue (even if the charts weren't rigged against CZN, and even if they did account for PC revenue)
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So what you're all saying is EoS in 3 days okay.
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>>558639624
maybe not remove them entirely but reduce them, remove the most useless ones.
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I LOVE GETTING GENERIC EPIPHANIES BROS
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>>558634692
Going to link this guy the censorship he will 180 on her
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>>558640729
I think arguments can be made for keeping the Vuln ones, maaaybe Morale if we're desperate, but every single other one is completely useless. You could even get rid of all of the generic epiphanies entirely, including Vuln and Morale, because Divine epiphanies can roll Vuln anyway.

Either way, I would have preferred that they remove all of the generic epiphanies entirely rather than get an epiphany reroll system.
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>>558624098
Thanks. You finally sold me Tiphera with this single image ':D
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>>558640741
That's 12.25%, not that rare
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>>558640853
You won’t do it pussy.
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Is dragon flame sovereignty that bad?
I don't have enough credits to prune it from my deck?
Also fuck me, I should've brought tiph instead of Mika, mika has too many cards to remove that ends up being a priority when i run blue pot. Even with a bunch of rallies, I still going to get filtered by it
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Made this retain deck but I'm not sure how I should use it, orlea and who?
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>>558588435
>Tiph's censored ass edition
is this an edit?
>>558589910
oh no..
>>558590338
oh no no no no...
for fucks sake. can you just ONCE get something from shitgate without some form of drawback? there is always a 'BUT!' attached. i cannot do this anymore. there is constantly this fear of censorship and them fucking shit up colossaly looming over every update. who in their right mind would even pay for this kind of experience? forget money, i dont even want to spend my time in this trash game anymore.
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>>558641913
>is this an edit?
>>558550371
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>>558641518
Woah, I just realized that you can use that form convergence to reconvert those dupe cards back to their base form.
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>>558641913
The law of equivalent exchange
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>>558641982
so they're censoring the game now? fucking hell
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>>558641913
post your box
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>>558642071
>now
They done been censoring it. Nine's armpit is STILL censored.
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>>558641982
>changed that art once and simply didn't bother changing it again
>didn't bother
just what the fuck is wrong with thesr gooks? i thought it was some datamine, tiphs uncensored CG, but it is still in the game?? this is beyond sloppy
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>>558642256
>this is beyond sloppy
The maintenance was extended 3 hours just so that they could still leave the uncensored mindbreak in the game accidentally.
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This game is dead due to censorship, pack it up retards.
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>>558590338
Not gonna lie, the "censored" version is way hotter
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>>558642193
Breh, i'm only here for the shitshow. I long stopped buying monthly or BP kek. Cannot wait for the story to come out. My sides are not ready, though
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>>558642421
based panty peek appreciator
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>>558642421
That's not the point. The point is that it was censored at all in the first place.
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Reminder that if you care enough to screech here and not to send a direct feedback to smilegate, you're literally wasting your time. Meanwhile discordtroons are making their voices known
>
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>>558642421
bro the issue here is that gookgate just cant be trusted. if enough discordtroons and faggit want it then tiph will get the shots. do we need to read another retard like you going 'i like spats so i dont mind the censorship'? fuck no.
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>>558642421
For some reason, her panties look glued to her ass in the uncensored version, it just looks bad.
Just a little bit of pantsu and her cameltoe in the censored version is absolute boner fuel though
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>censorship jeets woke up again
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>>558642609
https://cs.onstove.com/en/service/STOVE_CHAOSZERO/contact
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>>558642609
We already won over the discord troons and xer partners.
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>>558642632
It would be weird if panties would not be all tight on your ass and pussy in that position. Are you completely braindead? Not to say that the uncensored version looks much hotter.
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>>558642743
I'm just saying it looks bad, i don't care about real world physics
Meanwhile everytime I get a mindbreak in game I have to control my boner
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>>558642636
Take note of the timezone
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>>558642609
Make no mistake. I actually hate Smile Gate so much for fucking up CZN, i am actively in favor for censorship on official normalfag channels. And that dude is a moderate compared to me. I want ALL the game censored, no alternative shit. You better hope they somehow include a patch method or some shit. I am going ballistic on this trash game. I finally understand the koreans. If you fuck it up this bad then i want it DEAD
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>>558642887
holy schizo
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>>558598057
Tiphera straight up naked.
Outfit exchange complete!
Let me know if you want any tweaks (different expressions, style adjustments, etc.) and I’ll edit them again!
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>>558643106
>no visible snail trail or dribble
She's not truly mindbroken yet
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>>558643106
Tits too big
Pussy would be showing in this pose
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>>558643106
one bite mark on her ass please
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She needs to be naked under this coat
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So what will we do as a community against Tiph's censorship? We have to fight back.
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>>558643461
>>558642690
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>>558643461
Tell the gooks on arca.live about it
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>>558643497
That's way too boring. Anyone want to fly to Korea? I can pay for around 20 anons.
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>>558643169
Tit size needs to increase by at least 2 according to usual mindbreak regulations. Actual genitals cannot be shown due to the current App store age rating (outside of chaos monsters based on sexual organs and giant goatse final boss), please think about the sponsors!
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I really thought that artifactslop couldn't get any worse than it already was.
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>>558643615
It's so over...
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>>558643615
That's Veronica's normal size though.
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>>558643615
ZAMN rabbitmouse looks like THAT!!
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I tried facing the rift boss yesterday and got omegaraped, you can't stroll with casual bullshit here. I need good sereniel decks or I won't even beat phase 1. Shit's tough
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LMAOO Smilegook paid for rewards for their censored slop game.
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oh hey I found the tiphera card
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>>558644025
owari da
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>>558644575
LMAO
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>>558643178
The void hungers.
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Anyone got a screenshot of the Asia leaderboard? I'm curious what they're using
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>>558644575
nahhh bro
why is it EVERY single time something drops there’s always a “but…” attached?? like can we just ONCE get a W without some cursed side effect??
i’m actually so done and people are PAYING for this experience?? wild. forget the money, i don’t even wanna spend my TIME on this game anymore. i’m exhausted.
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>>558643106
Is this what an imperial marshall really does?
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>>558644865
Good, see you never
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>>558644885
Yes, that way they can brag about having a high bodycount.
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Sticker is still here
As long as they don't change it there is hope...
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>>558645006
I'm starting to understand how she is planetary level...
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>>558645094
Planetary level… killing billions…
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>>558645025
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>>558645176
Billions lost in those gallons.
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>>558645409
>sere on all top spots
kek
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>>558645494
I mean the boss has instinct weakness in the first part and tenacity bars
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>>558631086
Jesus Christ what a retarded post
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Nine fucking sucks.
I got baited as usual.
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>>558645409
>Kayron
Asianbros explain????
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>>558645676
Tiphera exhausts his curse cards for card draw and damage
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>>558645494
>first phase
You could clear it with Hugo, Sereniel only get bricked if enemies doesn't have tenacity bar.
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>>558645409
how do I build a selena for Sere? I don't need top spot just 500k for the rewards
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>>558645676
He technically has a higher cap than Nine when Tiphera's involved. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up taking the #1 spot soon.
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>>558645409
>kayron tiphera is strong
Nice, but I was kind of expecting Nine as well. I guess that's the beast that uploaded the 1M kayron damage hits.
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>>558645721
Tiph is Kayron onahole???
Fucking cheating whore he already married with Tenebria!
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>>558645676
>>558645809
Don't play kayron but this is the deck
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>>558645827
Check faction, if it says wanderer, that's one of Kyron's onaholes, except for maybe Rin.
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>>558645827
>Tiph is Kayron onahole???
Captain only lets Kayron borrow her to get a high score. That's it...
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>>558645953
Damn, those are some perfect epiphanies
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>>558645953
>not exhaust oath of vanity
So he still want to manually use futility?
>1 basic attack
Was he planning for 5 echo?
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>>558646180
The agony one is pretty bricked
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DPS or Shielder?
She's very versatile and, paired with Gatling Beryl, she can really see alot of use after Beryl is set up.
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Is the synchro thing a trap??? I heard some people were unable to level up the combatant after they insert them into the sync
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>>558646616
You can level up, it just requires you to toggle a switch in the top of the screen which is pretty unintuitive
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>>558646265
>Was he planning for 5 echo?
he would've probably removed it if black hole didn't proc divine, he's already at cap
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>>558646616
Yes it's a massive trap (BEWARE). You get a unit to lv55 and 90% of their potentials unlocked for FREE. Shit game honestly.
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>>558646175
She's empire faction but is undercover as an "adventurer" wanderer
Do you even read the story?
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>>558646265
I bet his oath also had a divine but it got cleared out too.
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will I regret omega coding my Sereniel??
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>>558646470
She can be a shielder / counter attack version of vulnerability bot Orlea with the right epiphanies.
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>>558647076
Duping Sereniel is worth it only if you go for at least S2.
Don't bother with just S1.
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>>558647076
The E2 and E4 are huge damage boosts, so if you get to one of those with it, it's pretty good
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>>558645953
sick
I kind of regret having only 2 echo in mine because it has those exact epiphanies but maybe i can still make it work, it'll scale slower though
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>>558645953
Can you share the tiphera list too?
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>>558645605
This is also my experience. She seems very underwhelming.
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>>558646823
Undercover under Kayron's bedsheets yeah.
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>>558645605
This is Nia's fault tho
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Holy fuck, the new chaos boss does not fuck around.
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>>558648997
he does indeed fuck around, but he fucks you around.
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How the FUCK are people 5 turning this nigga?
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what kind of pagan ritual do I have to perform for the quantum sneed to have a goddamn epiphany before the 45 minute mark on my chaos run? this is so stupid
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>>558649539
you need to buy a Tiph figure and hot glue it until you pass out from magnesium deficit, only then will the RNG be on your side.
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>>558649792
I would buy a Tiph figure if they sold one...
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>>558649792
i'm on my 8th run and I still haven't been able to put together a decent deck, i fucking hate this
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I was wondering what the fuck you are supposed to do with Tiph's card that exhausts exhaust cards, then realized it works for cards in your deck instead of just the cards in your hand
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which is the more important stats for veronica? extra atk or crit damage?
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Been away for the past 14 or so hours. Have they uncensored her mindbreak yet?
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so far Tiphera has been a complete disappointment.
I hate her casting idle animation, it looks so fucking forced that her coat flies 2m away from her so she can expose her panties with zero subtlety. It's also a copycat animation from Mika.
Yellow shimapan is an odd choice

The Archetype cards are way to unreliable and she has like twice as many options to draw archetypes over generating.
Harmonization is suboptimal paired when paired with Nine as well.
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>>558651191
>it looks so fucking forced that her coat flies 2m away from her so she can expose her panties with zero subtlety
gay
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>>558651191
>I'm gay btw
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>>558650665
Nope. Apparently the official discord server mod want to push for SFW/gentlemen mode, where characters wear non revealing outfits.
>>558642609
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>>558651191
I'm waiting until some Tiphera showcases come out to see how she even plays. I can't understand what her gameplan even is just from reading the cards.
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>>558651434
That mod should be castrated
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>>558651434
Already sent them a complaint through Stove. I don't use pisscord tho.
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>>558651434
>they want to double SmileGate's workload, which is clearly already too much for them to handle, all so they can keep playing a game that isn't actually for them
Slay the Spire 2 is about to come out, right? Why don't they just go play that?
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>>558651984
Because these people are legit mentally ill that want everyone to pander to them so they can feel good about themselves
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>>558651445
you just shit out archetypes into draw and discard pile and try to draw as many AP gen as possible.
One gives you AP, one increases next hit damage one is a dud that is basically (try again).
You raffle through her gens and gamble on her upgrade card and that's it. She is just a slightly different Mika, time will show if she is somewhat consistently better or worse.
It's rather boring, the only new vertices is that she generates exhaust cards
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>>558651191
t. faggot
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>>558652052
So... you auto lose to Blue Pot?
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>>558652052
>one is a dud that is basically (try again).
using one procs 6-12% ally crit from the partner
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>>558649423
S2 Sereniel.
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Finally... some good fucking food...
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>>558652220
I have her at S6 and I can't even come close
Does everyone just have 4x divine decks or something?
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>>558651191
I know this is your "coming out" speech you are preparing for your parents but I think they'll get the message more easily if you just say you're gay straightly.
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>>558652052
If you guys want brain dead Tiph use her as exhaust bot.
My Kayron doesn't feel clunky to play anymore because Tiph keep sucking his futility card
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>>558651191
they really should've given her a cute or catchy short animation and voice since she is casting so much every turn, current animation just isn't good enough
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>>558652230
The equips are kind of ass but this is still great
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>>558651984
>they want to double SmileGate's workload
They legit never have a job in their entire life, they thought adding this shit is fucking easy.
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>>558652423
why is Tiph such a whore..
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This bitch is peak comedy. I am starting to actually like how much of a dumb cunt she is.
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will CZN devs steal ideas from Sts2 to improve the game?? they will right??
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>>558652592
wife material
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>>558652592
its almost like they want you to hate her, they keep making renoa a dumb bitch while they keep giving rei events.
rei canon wife.
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>>558651984
They don't actually care about the game. They just hate (You) and their entire lives revolve around trying to take things away from (You).
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>>558652592
you will fall for the canon wife. Trust the plan
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>>558651984
they are too stupid to play sts
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>>558652736
I hated her on the first chapters, but she's so unintentionally funny on this Season that I can't help it but like her.
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>>558652592
I'd be surprise of there are people who gives a shite about her.
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>>558652715
Why steal from sts2 when it's almost the same as sts1?
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Regarding the story rewrite, what was it actually supposed to be before we were given what we have now? Sorry if this maybe has been mentioned a lot before.
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>>558653525
Balancing around multiplayer would make things pretty different.
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>>558652290
ser + selena
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>>558653608
It was more about time loop that ended always with a bad end like Re;Zero.
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My headcanon is that Tiph purposefully floats her cape that far behind her to give the Captain a nice view of her ass
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>>558653762
Damn, thematically that plays in with the game really well. Unfortunate.
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>>558653608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OReXVmXCYLo
It was supposed to be grimdark space eldritch horror where you keep going back in time and doing different things until you can save whoever it is, then you move on to the next Chaos and do it again.

Sort of like how the Trauma codes are a little bit. Or, the prologue for Chapter 5 where you keep rewinding and lose your memory, which loops back to the opening sequence, they had another writer come in and add that story beat back in at the very end of the story that was available at launch, but they clearly forgot about it.
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>>558654015
So he just plays all the futilities raw besides the one "exhaust 3" copy? Didn't expect that.
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>>558653954
Would have been cool if it stuck with that, having more space for mission failures is an easy way to add plenty of horror themes. Given that all their promo material really had that vibe as well. Anyway thanks.
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KayronGAWDS
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>>558653954
It could still be this if they manage the rewrite properly. I hope that their definition of rewrite isn't just a slight touch up on the already existing story because it's unremarkable. They could easily pull off a loop based story and make what's happening in the current event story make sense, where the Protos knows exactly where to go because he's already done all of it and doesn't yet know his relation with Rita because he's not at that part yet but she somehow is and is also looping or maybe it's a memory from a different run he somehow forgot in part..... game's fun (save data farming aside) and I do hope they change it for the better with the plot so that there's more to look forward to.
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>>558654868
Calm down sister.
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>>558655073
I'm gonna be honest, man. No one gives a shit about the rewrite. Personally, I read the entire story on launch, I read the Trauma codes on launch, I read everything that was in the game on launch, and I am never going to read anything else they put in the game, not even the rewrite. The Trauma codes are alright, but everything else is trash. The only times I have ever slowed down to read parts of new things they have added to the game after launch is sometimes Yuki's voice actress was really going hard, so I had to slow down and listen. I hope Yuki's VA gets more work, she's incredible. Maybe she's already well established, I have no idea. It'd make sense if she was, she's really good.
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>>558653954
this art reads as a corrupted version of luke
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stonks
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>>558655259
>No one gives a shit about the rewrite
Retard, if nobody gave a shit why would they bother rewriting in the first place? Use that big brain of yours.
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>>558655498
This implies the devs arent utterly incompetent retards which implies they would've written something people actually liked in the first place
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>>558654868
t. tiphera
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>>558655405
why
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>>558655405
It's all coming together

>>558655575
why what
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why are people cuckposting kayron and tiph now?
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>>558655498
>if nobody gave a shit why would they bother rewriting in the first place?
That's the $[X] million dollar question. Everyone gave a shit that 30% cheaper nigger cocks in Dawei had the story rewritten 5 times right before release, only to ditch all the cool story beats so that he could give us his own personal slice of life notGayshit fanfiction. It's upsetting that the director would ruin the game like that, seemingly on purpose.

I don't think anyone actually cares for it to be rewritten though. The damage is already done. Everyone who did read the story already had their time wasted, myself included. If it's all shit, why would I read more shit? It's still going to be shit, it's still not going to be what we were supposed to get, it's just going to be a slightly different flavor of shit. The story is ongoing. The only thing I care about at all is whether or not Rita and Millia are the same person, or if they redesigned Millia into Rita, or if the two girls are sister or something, or if they just forgot about Millia completely.
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>>558647169
I hope I did it right.
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>>558655792
mental illness
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>>558655259
I do. I care and I want it to be good. If you gave up on it and want to be stubborn and edgy about it, that's your right to do so, but don't push it on us who are still high on copium. I know that they can do it. The question is if they will or if they'll fuck up again, because the original premise still exists. The drafts are there, the sprites are also there, some already posted in the thread. So it's possible and we'll surely find out before summer.
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>>558655792
Give me a decent image of them full body and I will let Grok do its magic.
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>>558655792
Literally built for each other
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>>558655927
I always found these funny in how absurd they are. Owen fails as the bull because his original personality isn't there, he's not a chad, and neither is he a filthy old man or goblin. The fact that this upsets some and makes them seethe is hilarious. How insecure are some people that they lose it over a video game character? You should post more. Use Hugo to really make them seethe.
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>>558655792
Trannies want attention and people here can't stop replying to them.
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>>558655904
You're crazy if you think they'll keep it edgy when even the new stories (the seasonal ones) have just been plain bad with basically close to no horror. No, your single CG of a plant growing on a hand is not deep dark edgy it's literally baby's first body horror picture.
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>>558656116
Cope doomjeet, you lost
HopeCHADS won and our gentleman's tiph breakdown is here to stay!
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>>558656337
My hope is that the current story we have is based on the old story, pre-rewrite and is being released to adhere to the content schedule. If it turns out to be wrong, so be it. I'll stop caring as much about it and continue playing until I care. I'd be happier if they rewrote everything and made it better though.
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People pairing male and female units when they work with each other is pretty common in mixed gachas
Now you, gacha newfags, all understand why some people were not happy with CZN being mixed
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>>558655904
>. If you gave up on it and want to be stubborn and edgy about it
I'm not being stubborn or edgy about anything. Everything sucks, every time we "win" we still lose a little bit, they extend maintenance for 3 hours and still forget to replace an uncensored Tiphera mindbreak... I have no reason to believe that the rewrite is going to be good. Shit, it might not even be better than what we currently have, but I do think it will at least be better than what we have. I'm just not going to read it. Already wasted my time.

Rewrite is for people joining the game from the 1yr anniversary and later, and they might want to read the story. The story is not for people already playing the game. We don't care anymore.
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>>558656480
I wish I had as much copium as you but after all the things they've shown and revealed I've got no hopes left for this game going in its original direction. I wish I'd get despair loop kino but instead I'm getting NIKKE with even worse writing and designs.
The Trauma codes are conceptually cool but even these are pretty whatever in terms of actual writing, I think it's very telling when Narja's TC had a bunch of CGs meanwhile Luke only had 2 total.
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>>558656480
The main thing I didn't like about the original story is that all the agents lost their memories upon exiting chaos. Just makes the entire ordeal lose a lot of impact. I'd much rather the captain be a navigator than a recorder, as is currently the case
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>>558655648
>tfw meditated Shining Core SEVEN (7) times and didn't get the good upgrade once
FUCK. Easiest flash of my life still. This shit is broken as fuck.
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>>558656583
who asked
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>>558656942
It was me.
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>>558656942
It was him >>558657132
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>>558656970
>>558657132
>>558657209
These posts? All me btw
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>>558656942
>>558655792
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>>558655792
But I'm literally Kayron though
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>>558657314
thanks
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>>558657372
You're a flamboyant faggot and your secretary does your hair?
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>>558656583
wait for the story rewrite where they turn all males into girls for (you)
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FUCK. Okay I need selena to loop tenacity.
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I keep this sneed epipi right
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>>558658651
I think one of the top leaderboard decks has 3-4 of those, so yes.
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how do I build Selena
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Okay now that the game is exploding in popularity because we got the first non-baloon tits CZN, the devs will surely make more characters like tiph, right?
Realistic looking women that do not look like the typical Korean plastic surgery whore?
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>>558658841
I hope so. I'm a tits guy yet I can't help but like this cutie patootie.
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>>558658760
Refill tenacity x4 coordinated attack skill and delete everything else
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>>558658841
>exploding in popularity
I wish it was
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this animal will single handedly cause the death of berryl, what a unit
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>>558658975
Beryl was already the poverty nuke unit, what are you talking about
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OH SHIT
Is it worth building around this?
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>>558659641
>Draw 1 + 1AP with a potential upside
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>558655793
Nihao nigger, when the Rita Milia debate was at its peak on social media they posted this chinese thing and used Milia on it as a way of saying, we did not forget about Milia
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>>558659641
Bet on it
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>>558659765
Sure but I REALLY don't wanna restart the rift boss 10000 times until I win all the guesses
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>>558659783
I guess cats are time mages in this universe
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>>558653790
Yeah by farting really hard
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Competitive rivalry threesome with white haired girls
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>>558659841
Honestly you may as well want to lose the guesses since that means you're not putting cards on your deck (unless you build the rest of your tiph to draw)
Go outside if you can and check the leaderboard, some of the top 10 players are using that.
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>>558656854
Is that Plasma Missile actually good? I never pick that one.
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>>558658975
She's not even in top 10 for second half, she'll be fine. This isn't close to a Tressa/Cassius situation at all.
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>>558659929
>Captain, we've decided the only way to settle this rivalry
>The one that makes you cum the most will be your girlfriend, you can't escape this
A classic, but a good one nonetheless
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>>558660028
Not particularly, at most you're dealing something like 1k at the end of the turn. I just picked it for draw consistency and to guarantee copying the homing lasers during chaos.
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>passive counter vuln bot magna with morale stack with spore beryl
pure SOVL
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>>558656583
>some people
just say browns
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>scored 500k on the leaderboard boss
Comfy times return.
Time to grind more god chaos runs for the archive.
What team are you using for Sekrets blessing?
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>>558658841
>exploding in popularity
lol
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orange pussy...
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>>558660606
soulful team
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>>558660668
Pretty sure it just picks three random units in your roster
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>>558658958
>>558660557
i saw random twitter posts with 6k likes
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>>558660503
>What team are you using for Sekrets blessing?
Narja, Chizuru. Mei Lin also works, especially if you manage to grab Overwhelm.
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>>558660760
Anon...
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>>558658958
>>558660557
>>558660793
oh i forgot we also had a super long and fast /v/ thread
the game is definitely rising
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>>558660606
>>558660760
So they did change it, before this season it showed the last unit you used in chaos.
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>>558660793
I never look at czn stuff on twitter but tiph forced the game to actually appear a couple times so it probably has risen
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>>558659976
Oh shit lets go
I am only on T15 though meaning I'll have to de-epiphany one of them or leave in a basic heal...
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>>558660793
>6k likes
pathetic amount
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>>558660956
You can make one of the copies the upgrade version, that's also pretty valid.
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>>558659929
They can scissor each other while I'm busy with Tiphera
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>>558658841
Nope. Big tits characters still make more money, pedofags doesn't spend money.
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>>558660760
>was gonna call you a retard, because it just gives you the last team you used
>when I open the cafe, it gives me completely random people
Well that's weird. Why did they decide to change that?
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>>558660064
F-Fuck
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>>558661427
We have now been given a new minigame within the game.
Go to the cafe and beat a diff 11 run with the characters it gives you.
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Looks like someone is mad that the game is doing well
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>>558661427
Because people want to see more than the same 3 combatants chill in the ark. Imagine you really like a specific combatants personality and appearance, but you dont like their gameplay, you would never get to see them just chilling in the cafe. Now you can.
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>>558661827
I miss the pre-Chaos early days when I was still using Magna for everything. Maybe I'll copy the guy who just got posted and do a Beryl Magna team
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>>558660820
>Chizuru. Mei Lin
Damn I don't have these.
Guess it's time to level Luke...
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>>558661946
>Maybe I'll copy the guy who just got posted and do a Beryl Magna team
That Magna's not really doing much. She's literally a morale bot on that team, which you could use anyone else for the same effect.
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>>558661427
i like this
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>>558662225
>Magna's not really doing much
Be nice, she's trying her best
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couldn't play since tiph reveal but i will blast the entire fucking weekend brows
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can't tell you how I know this but Magna LOVES peanut butter
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>>558661427
Tressa always look like she's about to be brutally raped and snuffed.
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>>558661091
NOOOOOOOO did I miscalculate something? Why did it undo my last dupe...
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>>558662641
Because it's 60 point.
Also people often disregard the gear refinements but it's 10 point each.
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>>558588435
Doomerchads were right once again. The moment they started censoring, they will just keep doing it, only now it will be behind our backs.
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>>558662479
You right, my bad.
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>>558659929
Nine Paizuri while Renoa tongue-fuck my hairy asshole. The best performance will be rewarded with my love.
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>>558653267
What is this based on?
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>>558653267
>kiss mark on his crotch
Why's my wife such a nasty slut?
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>>558662641
Noooo anon why!
That's still good.
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>checks leaderboard rankings
>sees magna in top 10
>excited to see what they were cooking
>oh
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How are you supposed to properly utilize Tiph? Feels like during my runs she is mainly a buff bot and her archetype creation is just there to give the passive buffs
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how do I cheese great rift boss no nine no tiphera
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>>558663168
Fuck, I'm so sorry anon. I laughed though
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>>558662774
FUCK I just realized the god hammer is another ten points that's what pushed me over and fucked me
I could've sworn they said it was free...
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>>558663214
Use your ol' reliable Beryl bwo.
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>>558663331
>>558663331
>>558663331
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>>558661437
You JUST know how it'll go
>nine will suggest the idea
>renoa will blush and agitatedly say that's preposterous
>nine will immediately destroy your pants and start devouring your dick saying that if she wants to lose then too bad, no captain for her
>renoa will join because she can't lose you like this
>they double team on your cock
the rest is history
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Based game knew I don't play men.
Which has the best manifest ego for the selector?
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>>558663727
You don't want to hear this but kayron's stocks are rising
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>>558662641
God hammer is bait yeah



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