Ghost Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/threadlocked: >>558621713
>>558649464She looks like she is being bent over and getting fucked
>Prio Venator >I somehow got Mina despite not putting her on prio My vampire wife is so clingy....
Silver.
Age old question: how much soloskill can compensate for retarded teammates?
>the Troubadour transformed into a bunch of crows and disappeared >Vindicta can control crows
>>558649614Good puppy
>Keep losing games and getting put in lower and lower ranks>Get stomped more and more and the average skill of players noticably increases What the fuck even is this matchmaking? I'm not playing any more until they fix this shit
I main the trifecta of retard proof herosWarden, Graves, VictorI have become bored and seek a challengeWhat heros require the most skill to play?
I want to get FUCKED by Lash
>Can't avoid new heroes>Can't avoid new heroes>Can't avoid new heroes>Can't avoid new heroes
>>558649930doorman doesn't have as high a skill floor as people say (he's still not easy), but he has the highest skill ceiling by far
>>558649907It's the AI matchmaking, you fucking luddite! You can't buy RAM and your electricity bill is enormous because of this. Why aren't you happy?
>>558650072I considered the Doorman but he is taken by a friendIt was a good suggestion though
Silver can get pregnant Mina can't get pregnantVindicta is dead so she can't get pregnant
Yoshi...It's time to rework Holliday into a proper character.Remove her barrel and jumppad and give it to another hero or just make the barrel into a proper TNT bundle.She barely works and only kinda functions because of her strong ult, relegating her to an ultbot more than any other character in the game.Yoshi, don't be dumb and waste the only cowgirl character on gameplay that doesn't fit theme in the slightest.
so every new release will be more broken than the last without hope of avoiding them because 1: it barely works and 2: they can't be avoided
>>558650124sinclair is another good option, knowing what ults to copy and what builds to make to exploit them is pretty complex, and you can do a lot of teleporting shenanigans too
>>558650208It's a fucking closed test, the game wasn't even properly announced yet. Did you never participate in the real game testing, and not marketing betas?
Mo and Krill have both the highest skill floor and skill ceiling
>>558650295I don't know how an alpha or beta excuse shitty balance
>>558649930>What heros require the most skill to play?Probably doorman, a better question is what heroes are such giant pieces of shit right now you have to play out of your mind on to make functional.Which would be either doorman or vindicta
MANY MENWISH NERFS UPON ME
Did the balance patch release yet?
>>558650335That's probably because you're retarded, simplebro.
>>558650335Are you fucking retarded or something? They're testing the game for that exact purpose. Fucking quit if you can't handle it, dumb tranny bitch
>>558650387Yeah they nerfed shiv daggers and bebop bombs again
I've gotten a bit into Dota2 because of Deadlock and I gotta say, the community in Dota2 is infinitely more cancerous than in Deadlock by a lot.I never thought I would utter this word but calling it "toxic" fits, thank god this game isn't made up entirely of dotards..
>>558650367Warden 50 centBilly Eminem Infernus Dr Dre Mirage Snoop Dogg
Spirit items are ridiculously overtuned in comparison to weapon items.You can see this where basically every viable weapon character has the exact same third ability because weapon builds crumble without the exact same supporting framework because spirit items have such enormously better numbers than their weapon equivalents.
Mo and Krill are the most horrible faggot retard characters in the game. Most characters I have some fun memories of fighting against or figuring out how to counter, but the only emotion I have ever felt about Mo and Kril is overwhelming disgust that such a shitty ugly boring character exists in the game
>>558650229I'll check Sinclair out when that mod that gives him a passable design gets updated(Warden was my intro character during herolabs, he got grandfathered in)
>>558650451Dota 2 was the best game ever made between the years 2013-2015 and it was downhill since, don't bother.
>>558650367
>>558650540Nah its balancedSpirit peaks midgame.Gun peaks endgameThanks for your feedback Intiate!
>>558650540>gun items are way more unique and spread out and have cool effects>but spirit has three to four god tier items in each tier that you're griefing if you don't pick up at least one perYou'd think it'd be the opposite with gun items.
>>558650540>gun items>+90% damage +60% resistance +200 firerate -40% bullet shred>spirit items>+9 spirit -14% cooldown +200 damage every 30 seconds
Kind of crazy how a good player has like 2x the networth than me at the same time even if I win my lane and get all the creep souls.The fact that the most optimal way to play is to get creeps + jungle + sinners + boxes is pretty sweaty but I would be okay with it if it wasn't for the fact that movement autism makes them move across the map 2x faster than a regular player.
>>558650150I played a Street Brawl game as Warden on a whim yesterday after not touching the game for 2 weeks.they had a Holliday, I'd never gone against a Hollidayevery time I tried to ult or whatever I'd just get grabbed by something and dragged around and murdered??? I realize now it was Holliday's lassoI fucking hate street brawl and I hate this bullshit stupid tranny character
>>558650540Yeah but spiritfags still whine when their 200IQ mashing of abilities loses to someone that can aim so...
I can't believe there's no astral projection hero yet. I don't think I've even seen the concept thrown around the forum. Imagine that, moving around using an ethereal avatar while your normal body acts like a sort of sentry that needs to be protected. You could use this to split push or gank enemies
>>558650747If you can't shmoove then you're probably in a tard bracket where the others can't either so that's not a good excuse.
>>558650654I don't think so, it's pretty fun, it's just that the attitudes of the average player there sucks.
>>558650846so you're saying there's nothing wrong with the matchmaking
reminder: it's always morally correct to bm celeste players
why does this game make me want to crash out so muchis this what it feels like to play dota
thank god the fake tourney is over and all the retarded zoomer e-sport obsessed niggers fucked off
>>558650908I don't have an issue with matchmaking, but I'm eternus 1 so...
>>558650801>I hate this bullshit stupid tranny characterDon't worry, you almost never play against Holliday, she's one of the most unpopular heroes in the game.Because her kit feels like shit obviously.It takes a lot of skill to make a tomboy cowgirl character in a hero shooter+moba mix and have her be THAT unpopular.
>>558649464Instead of summoning bats Mina just braps hard when she ults
WOW playing yamato sucks fucking dick dude i'm madwhy does her ult not have i frames
>>558650975I used to rage when we had solo lanes because sometimes you were just forced to solo a hard counter and auto lose the lane. There's little reason to crash out now unless your teammate is consciously griefing
>>558651125as in it should make her invincible the entire time?
>>558651187alright nevermindshe's just a paper bag who immediately dies most of the time i don't fucking get it
>>558651187NTA but didn't it used to do that? I vaguely remember her being basically immortal in 2024
>>558650846No, my rank is constantly going up which is the problem. I WILL eventually face a super tryhard who spent 200 hours practicing deadlock surf maps so he gets to run across the map while I'm on wheelchair mode.Really it's kind of whatever since the game is in alpha right now but if it ever releases you can bet movement autism will be the number 1 complaint people will have with this game.
I don't know why I play with the builds that other people play with but I just get zero performance out of them and I'm pissed. Maybe it's because I'm new to mobas but is it just constantly being behind the soul meta so basically all of your efforts are useless? like by the time you get to X benchmark in the game they've already basically surpassed you and this is only made much much worse by the fact that everything in this game snowballs because items scale??
>>558651242yeah at first she took no damage then she would just survive at 1 hp then it just gives resist
>>558651125Yamato is... ok.She's not bad, not great, she's kind of in a weird but not terrible spot right now.Don't play her just as a spirit character but a spirit brawler, she's tankier than she looks, also don't hold on to your ult, the cooldown on it is low enough, especially since you want to build cooldown reduction.t. Yamato main
>>558651425>she's tankier than she looksNooooo she is not. I can not take a SINGLE 1v1 with this chick against practically anyone unless they're already softened up
>>558651047is that why the thread is alot more boring now?
>>558651047Is that why the thread is a lot more interesting now?
>>558651047can't wait for next week desualways a fun time to shit on """"pros""""Also the double deathslam was hype as fuck
>>558651478Well it's hard to say why that is, it might just be an experience thing since I think I win most of my 1v1s with Yamato.She's not a "free win" pick but she's not bad and definitely worth picking up, she's also fun.
Ivy is the only foid I enjoy playing
>>558650142The question is though, SHOULD Silver get pregnant
>>558651718She's fine as a anti-carry esque hero but you need to be ahead to do anything.Frankly I still have PTSD from when she was good. So no buffs please yoshi
>>558651718Alright can you tell me what's wrong with this build then? I don't know if I'm supposed to wait until I get like 3.5k health from farming or what but I just immediately feed in every fight
>>558649930Doorman, Viscous, HollidayAll have freakass movement tech and require good knowledge of your environment to pull it offUnfortunately if "this character is ugly" is off-putting to you I doubt the two characters with missing textures will grab you, and you already said you can't play Doorman so fuck man idk, try playing one of the snipers and just aim-fagging.
>>558649930Go play Mina and then apologize to all the Mina players who are constantly denigrated.
graves if she was hot
>dominate most lobbies as vyper>every time i see an enemy vyper they're usually the carry tooI swear if she was more popular the community would never shut up about nerfing her
>>558651425Yamato is just a worse Apollo right now, there's like 0 reason to pick her over him.
Silver had a hard life...
>>558650335If you don't want to playtest, wait until release.Valve kept the beta hidden originally for a reason, they wanted people to experience a polished finished product, not what the game is now.But I don't mind, this unfinished beta is incredibly fun and it's exciting to see what ideas they're trying.My only hope is that we don't get the shitty stagnancy you get in games where a meta develops and if you change it the pro gamers shit themselves with baby rage.
>>558652118I dueled an Apollo in a match as Yamato and beat that smug redskinned bitch and it felt GOOD.Yamato will always be cooler than that bitch.Katana > pointy needle.
>>558652110She's already my perma ban pickI can't stand herEither she's useless on my teamOr the aforementioned carry on the enemy teamJust nonstop slip and sliding and shooting and nobody seems to be able to do a damn thing to stop her
Vyper Kneels to Dynamos big shoe
>>558652110>everytime I see a vyper buy coldfront instead of pivoting to gun after picking up improved spirit and mystic burst in lane she loses hardWhat causes this absurd leaning into spirit after the initial spirit items instead of getting gun items?
you're a fucking retardhe used it as assistive search and found a 70 year old algorithm developed by a human mathematician. he implemented the algorithm himself. he even admitted he could have found it himself, but he was able to provide a natural language prompt spec that chatgpt could guess at a solution fitting his problem.
>>558650081see >>558652294
>>558652157>they wanted people to experience a polished finished productI get that but they were never, EVER going to get that from a bunch of TF2 and Dota2 ecelebs, asskissers and spergs.Those particular types of players only ever want to play TF2 or Dota2, no matter what, and they would've given terrible feedback or just bitched that the game isn't TF2 or Dota2 enough for themIt probably saved the game that they let a broader range of players play it.
>>558652118I feel like apollo's better early but Yamato's max health healing and unstop beats the aoe curse lategame.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
deadflop
>Rem is the 2nd most picked hero in the game>over 50% winrateFuck this fucking rat retard character, I am SICK of playing against him.
>>558651309>movement autism will be the number 1 complaint people will have with this gameUnironically the biggest fly in the ointment with movement is that it still has the source engine shit where pressing W fucks up your forward momentum.If movement was smooth and intuitive and holding W at minimum did not impede you I think most people could adapt to dashing, sliding, walljumping, etc.But one of the biggest filters to rocket jumping in TF2 or bhopping in CS was always breaking the habit of pressing W to go forward.If that's here a lot of people are going to be filtered.
uh oh tf2roon melty
Ivy's stone form is legit one of the most busted abilities in the game, this character somehow manages to be giga cancer no matter how much they nerf her.
>>558651656>Yeah, haha, i watch esports... but only ironically you know hahakys zoomgroid
>>558652390>probably saved the gameI think what saved the game the most was who.or whatever convinced them to drop the Concord Neon Prime aesthetic and go for pulp fiction.Pulp fiction is honestly an under-utilized genre. A lot of characters in Deadlock feel like they're straight out of a comic book, and not in a capeshit way. Especially when you look at how blatantly someone like abrams was inspired by hellboy.
>Go to any other discussion platform. Playtest forums, trooncord, stream chats, xitter, plebbit>Nobody complains about movement>Go to 4chan>WAAAAAAAAAA MOVEMENT AUTISM WAAAAA MOVEMENT TRANNIES MOVEMENT THE GAME IS TOO HARD BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!yeah this is totally an authentic and common criticism and not just some astroturfed nonsense by 3 perma hardstuck archon faggots
>>558652668BRUTAL TRVKE
deadcuck general
deadgame trannylock
Who has better movement between Deadlock and Apex?
>enjoying game>skill rating rising>seeing more and more movement tech in matchesis this autism what defines high level play? maybe I'd prefer staying lower in rank
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORYcocklockVERSUSaryan fortress 2BEGIN!!
>>558652859streamertroons like vegas cry about it constantly
am i just unlucky or has the matchmaking gotten incredibly bad the last couple days? did they change something?
>>558652667THANK YOU
are Venator and Warden the morally best choices in lore to win? They're the only ones who wanna stop these weird fucking super powerful alien demigods from coming into our world to possibly ruin it, weird how the other chars don't seem to care much about that
>>558652859I mean a lot of recent games have dumbed down movement to make it accessible because the average joe gets mad if they have to look up a tutorial and practice tech.And while I don't think devs should do the overwatch/rivals thing of making all movement tech some shitty ability a character has on a cooldown, I do think they should try to aim for "A player could see someone else doing this and try to do it themselves without having to ask that person for specific button inputs"
>>558652668>holding W at minimum did not impedeThis is already true, holding W has no negative impact on your air momentum in deadlock.Trying to airstrafe while holding W is admittedly much less intuitive than doing it normally, but there's no inherent malus attached to holding W and it has no impact at all on any of the basic "dashing, sliding, walljumping, etc."
>>558652667Rem downplayers aren't going to like this.
>>558653175Well getting rid of an evil ass rape tome might also be a good choice considering even someone as morally questionable as Seven doesn't want anything to do with it but yes, Warden is The Good Guy. He just has "questionable" means. Honestly when they rework him I hope he doesn't have too many conversations.
>>558650295>>558650427you guys are naive fools if you think a fucking 100k player "beta" is for testing and not for building hype
>>558653513wrong it's for data
>>558653034first part august 27th? more like no parts coming cancelled
>>558653513yeah, preciselythey're in their standard practice "FOMO" marketing phase, it's a valve classic they know exactly what they're doingtheir lenient moderation and shit like their official closed beta invite only discord server's general chat being constant 24/7 meme spam is also part of their cool "freewheeling" brand
>>558653513If they wanted hype they'd drop the invite only bullshit and properly market the game. Maybe even add FOMO cosmetics. Right now they are bleeding money on servers while getting absolutely nothing in return.
maybe it's the hormones but I want to leglock and babytrap apollo >.<
>>558652853yeah, like I'm sure they could of spruced it up a bit but nothing would change how uninteresting it would be.
>Celeste is totally gay she *checks notes* compliments women >Silver is totally gay she *checks notes* is an alcoholic accepting another woman's offer to tag along going to a bar.
>>558653620they are getting hype and the brand being built, Deadlock is so fucking glazed rn on YouTube and xitter that I wouldn't be surprised if part of it is paid shilling lmao, also they don't need to open it, everyone got invites clearly, it's got 100k concurrent... it builds even more hype if people go out of their way for an invite, makes it feel more exclusive
>>558652859Probably just a thread on /v/. That board has become a haven for the most insufferably casual players alive that kvetch whenever a game has something for them to learn while going on about mainsteam appeal.
>>558651656Another William to the collection.
seven is the true homosexual icon of this game
>>558653501I forgot the difference between venator and wardens wishes, but both wanna btfo the patrons right, literally everyone else accepts that they'll let an eldritch god into our world that'll forever change it in exchange for a selfish wish, asshole cast desu
>>558652859>perma hardstuck archon faggotsanon I just got put in seeker this week, even though I only have 6 games playedI don't go around complaining about movementbut you're denigrating people's value as human beings based on their rank being 3? whole divisions above medo you know how that makes me feel? it makes me feel worthless, beyond worthlessbe more considerate
LET'S SEE WHAT YHWH CAN DO
>>558653842No the true homosexual icon is (you), the player.Also Graves players.
>>558653606>their lenient moderation and shit like their official closed beta invite only discord server's general chat being constant 24/7 meme spam is also part of their cool "freewheeling" brandIt can be their brand all they want, it still a good thing
>>558653680Two things that always bug me about yuri-fags:1. Their rabid hostility against the idea the character could just be bi or that their head canon is wrong, combined with a tendency to delusionally insist any behavior at all ever is proof of being turbo lesbian2. Yaoi is better anyway because only men are capable of true love
>>558653513the actual reason is that they have infinite money and can afford to let people playtest their game and hype it up for them without having to put any effort in. any game company would do the same if they had the kind of resources valve does
>>558653653this post was funnier when I could respond with "Graves..." but now you're larping as a tranny it doesn't make sense toywnbaw etc.
>>558653879by allah, behave yourselfi will give you a taste of my book
i have made the mistake of getting into a game as talon
geist is fun wonder why she isn't picked more often
>>558654039DW anon I believe in you just HEYA HOYA HEYA
>>558653879>Haredi>Doing anything ever besides kvetching
>>558653680The best part about this is that I bet whoever made this was just making a funny quirky comic about >>558653926>Character flirts with opposite sex.>"They could be bi.">Character flirts with same sex.>"If you say they're bi that's gay erasure."Also sorry anon but while Yaoi fags are generally less annoying they're still on the annoying faggot scale and fall into the same pitfalls that yuri faggots do at times, honestly they used to have the 'Two guys are friends? MUST BE GAY!!!!' until troons come along and took that with their rampant yuri faggotry.
>>558653706That doesn't make any fucking sense. FOMO for what? The game has no tangible rewards for playing early other than the fun of it. If they added exclusive cosmetics or even a season pass you'd have a point.
so is boho just scrapped at this point? zero hints of any further leaks, no model whatsoever, and tons of talk in official discord about how celeste feels like a rework version of her that cannibalized portions of her kit
>>558654191it's not about profit, as others have said valve has enough of that, it is about building hype though, all those articles like "this UNRELEASED game has more players on steam than overwatch!" etc are to build hype for release, that's why I think they'll accelerate development and it'll be out within a year at most
>>558653513If it were open maybe lolValve was very tight lipped about this game for as long as they could manage, and I'm sure they've mixed feelings about Deadlock's early successEvents like "Old Gods, New Blood" and the voting with posters and shit show they're starting to lean into the hype because this sort of shit doesn't make sense for a playtest, but I still think if they'd had it their way the game would have had MAYBE a few hundred playtesters, enough to get a good amount of data at different skill levels without making the game the open secret it has been for two years.You can also tell when you look at how old heroes would drop and the difference in polish with newer heroes, they're starting to put their best foot forward with this shit now that people's eyes are on it. There's a world of difference between obvious placeholder models like Holliday, Grey Talon, and Viscous, and the level of style and attention to detail on the newest 6.
>>558654317well yeah?
This game has too many tryhards. I just shut my brain off and play but all the retards I match against on both sides actually care about the dumb MOBA-isms of the game and get on my ass about it.
>>558654317I hope not I want a witch character with a big hat...The tether concept sounded interesting too, though I imagine most players would hate fighting against it.
>>558654608the choice to have not have a non ranked casual game mode in a playtest is interesting to say the least
>>558654608Minecraft maybe more your speed
>>558649117and now the enemy haze and yamato in my lane were clueless and the haze went 1-12 so i wonits stomp or be stomped...
>>558650827Wrecker could do it.
I discovered the secret for fun, just ignore your kda
>>558654776>maybeEnglish class may be more your speed.
>>558654608This is not a game for brain shut off and play, I got war thunder and other gachas for that, do that in deadlock and unless you're in smurf mm u get clapped
>>558654695it did but have 2 different queues with 10k player peaks didnt work
>"movement tech">look inside>buggy physics interaction
>>558654365still no lipsync for any of the character's, but largely agree. all of the new character's have highly polished animations and they seem committed to only pushing things that feel truly finishedultimately, i think the initial opening of the playtest was important. they still had a lot of movement mechanics missing and the map had tons of flaws. forget when the map had 4 lanes; remember when there were no wall jumps? i think they're satisfied with the majority of game feel now and are just buffing shit outi fully expect yamato remodel to come in the next big patch along with a potential balance patch for her to entice people to try her now that she won't look like an alien anymore. people discount how much people don't like to use certain characters because they look unappealing and unfinished. she has one of the lowest overall pick rates out of the original 20 heroes despite being generally a strong spirit pick the entire time she's been in the game.>>558654692tether seems to have been moved to the ripper one, except instead of tethering enemies together, you tether one enemy to yourselfwe'll see
>>558654348>they'll accelerate development and it'll be out within a year at mostProbably something like this, the cat's out of the bag at this point.Their addition of 6 new heroes with the level of polish they have(and yes, despite your insistence that they're unbalanced these heroes are far more polished visually and mechanically than I would expect as a playtester of an alpha build) has already convinced me they probably have a secret dev branch with a more secretive, smaller group of playtesters.You don't spend all that time on making assets, animations, and voice lines for a character so early in development, not without playtesting to prove the basic concept works.
>>558654608That's what brool is for.
>>558655046>all of the new character's have highly polished animationonly rem and celeste tbqh venator is just okay, apollo's animations are terrible and silver is straight up just using sevens stuff
>>558655054>enter brool>max priority celeste>game flips a coin to decode who gets her>whoever calls it winswhoa... cool gamemode volvo...
Remember Valve developers work on whatever the fuck they want.
>>558654695It sure feels like ranked as long as you're playing at anything else beyond amoeba level.>>558654776Beat it in 2012.>>558654985Ehhh it's still very much possible to just do your thing.
>>558655196ye ye Le epic communist company valveThey'll still be whipping the devs indirectly to make them dev faster at this point, dota 2 was only in closed beta for a year
>>558655048yeah the new batches are clearly finished chars, cept maybe some final animation changes (silver is seven and drifter), Celeste is 1000% finished tho, now just to touch up the old more map fluff and most importantly jungle and it's set to release
>>558655201so your iq is just low
>grey talon got gutted because his arrows had fucking barrels for hitboxes>apollo can just vaguely aim at you and hit every abilityEPIC
>>558655507he also gets to be invincible during his ult because because
>>558655507Okay, let's nerf Apollo's 3 and then give him infinite spirit scaling movement speed. Kill yourself Grey Talon faggot.
Do you guys think they will change Yamato's kit after her remodel or nah?
>>558655138>silver is straight up just using sevens stuffexample? their weapon animations, dash animations, and even how she reloads and handles her shotgun are completely different
>>558655665wolf m1 is drifter m1her movement animations are seven
>>558655046>people discount how much people don't like to use certain characters because they look unappealing and unfinishedI don't think people do, in particular because they themselves will admit there's characters they haven't played because they don't like them design wise or in aesthetics.Like personally I don't fw Celeste because she feels like she was made for girls who dressed up as suicide squad harley quinn for halloween, but I've enjoyed Viscous despite him unironically not having any textures on him, just a model with some shaders.Yamato can't even be saved by dialogue because they decided to make all of hers in a language specific to a single isolationist oft-racist island nation. Which is kinda funny I'll admit but it does mean she has little going for her next to 37 other characters to make someone click on her.Though that said this video definitely drove up my interest in her:https://x.com/i/status/2026727727462547897
>>558655665>>558655769her stupid butt parry is seven's too
>>558653009It's fun to use and to learn just pick one thing to work on a day You'll never have to learn how to do some of the crazier shit you'll see E6 1 year game time people like Eidorian do
>>558655054brool is for going random and still getting cucked on items
>>558655769her movement is different, im sorry, she holds her gun at different angles and seven doesn't have a monopoly on running>>558655848i'll give you this though, looks exactly the same and it looks terrible
>seven gets picked in the tournament>everyone questions the decision>he losesbut 56% winrate?
>>558655046I don't play Sinclair purely because of his lack of voicelines and unfinished model, seeing him ingame feels jarring
>>558656097Seven is overpowerd bro don'tchaknow?
>>558656161honestly it just makes playing as him funnier, you feel like an inexplicable anomaly that's just there to fuck with people
>>558656097He also bought melee charge
>had a guy add me to tell me my holliday was clean as the enemythank you bro...i love playing hard low tier chars
>>558656097>Apollo doesn't even get picked after a total of 6 picks and 2 bans have come inBut muh 47% winrate? I thought he was uncounterab->gets picked>goes bottom damage with half the damage of the next highest because the enemy team bought a slowing hex
>>558655348>working on whatever you want>communism My sweet summer child...
>>558656097>he losesLook man if you build ult seven and slap on cultist sacrifice I don't know what to say anymore man.Also from what they said they were more confused because apparently the player had little Seven experience which might be why he made such a fuckass retarded build.
>>558656295That Lystic loss was just him throwing. He dominated the early/mid game retard just didn't respect the abrams/venator CC chain of death.
>>558655046>>558655048I mean they had to completely change the artistic direction of the game from Neon Prime to DL. Probably took them a while to find their footing and understand the direction they want to follow.Last 12 characters are proof of them understanding that and fully commiting to that style.
>>558655774>Yamato can't even be saved by dialogue because they decided to make all of hers in a language specific to a single isolationist oft-racist island nation.That's the appeal dummy, as a huge weeb I enjoy her chuuni Japanese lines and I'm sure that's part of what people like about Yamato.
>>558655201You arent supposed to beat Minecraft you giga retard you are supposed to fuck around endlessly(like you are doing in dl which is greifing btw)
>>558656097They literally picked Seven for a 67 joke. All he's good for.https://x.com/Abrahams_DL/status/2026868706521866460
>>558656496Yeah the broken engrish and random jap lines are pretty funny and the only saving grace of that abomination.
Apollo upplayers are actually in shambles after that night shift. Nerf Venator.
flopping tranny deadcock
>>558656423It was such an apocalyptic lystic throw
>>558656097i don't care what deathy or eido say, gun carries are still good if the game goes even a tiny bit longer than 25min, and seven's speed scaling and wave/camp clear is always underestimated>but his ult is shit and easily hard countered and his stun is easily cleanseddoesn't matter when he has every tool to outmacro the entire enemy team by himselfhe's not overpowered, but he severely pushes enemy macro mistakes. that's probably why his winrate is inflated, since most games below low eternus go to at least 25-30min
>phantom 5>play game>lose>phantom 5>play game>win>phantom 5deadtards???
>>558656764>since most games below low eternus go to at least 25-30minmore like 40-70 min
>>558656668if you hate it so much, why are you still playing?
>>558656668this image literally comes from reddit
so... buff seven?
>>558656668Sorry DOTArd no amount of shitposting will convince me to play a shitty relic from the early 2000s where I spend 60 minutes clicking on goombus the troll while a bunch of ruskies yell in my ears.
>>558656902>sole takeaway is buff or nerf>doesn't even quotekill yourself
What I don't get is why Seven's high winrate doesn't fall off at higher ranks. The higher you go the more you should be encountering Dispels, Counterspells and Knockdowns, so why doesn't his winrate drop accordingly? I assume half of Eternus must just be aimbots carrying their weight through sheer force of M1.
>>558656291Holliday is not low tier, she is just hard
>>558656798why do you people expect ranking up to be so easy. no competitive game is that easy
>>558656902NoBuff victor instead.Don't know why they felt the need to nerf his 3's spirit scaling. He's already bad.
>>558657075I'm on it
>>558657030>I assume half of Eternus must just be aimbots carrying their weight through sheer force of M1.correct, unironically
>>558656291you're an annoying faggot playing an annoying tranny characterevery holliday I've ever met has been a complete cocksuckerle special snowflake dogshit nonsensical kit and unfinished fisher price playdoh model hero"i'm sooooo good at holliday, you've probably never heard of xir"I wish I could string you up by your fucking neck with a piece of rope
>>558656764>but his ult is shit and easily hard countered and his stun is easily cleansedBoth of these arguments seem kinda flawed to meCountering his ult is buying a tier 3 item, taking up a slot, and dealing with a 35 second cooldown on it to cuck 1/4th of his kit(that probably got some damage off on you and took up some of your time anyway).Like yeah you can do that but unless he built ult seven(and didn't take unstoppable) it's a lot of effort for little pay off.And cleansing the stun is something you could argue counters any debuff that doesn't go off instantly. The stun still forces you to work around it or get fucked.if you have to spend 2-3 items slots to counter a character and you've still not even countered him just doing raw spirit damage to you I don't see how you could ever argue he's not good.
>>558657065i've been archon 2 for what feels like ages that at this point i assume this is just the rank i'm meant to be
Yoshi please decrease vyper's gun spread it fucking sucks
>>558650451Thats only because most people in deadlock have no idea wtf they are doing, and just hoping to keep their head down.
>>558657030>why doesn't his winrate drop accordinglyBecause if you buy 3 items and still haven't countered the character just fucking shooting you to death with his balls and his 3 you've put yourself at a solid disadvantage.
HEADS UP, PUSSY!
>>558657126My fucking hero.I'm being serious though, why do newbies think he's OP? Its even worse now since all the new heroes counter him to varying levels.Celeste? Apollo? Venator? Unplayable matchup
>>558656798>>558657192>play game, win>play game, lose>play game, win>play game, lose>play game, win>play game, lose>"Archon 1">lost so fucking hard and wanted to kill myself so bad I don't play the game for 2 weeks and counting>log in 2 weeks later>Seeker 4I guess I'll *actually* do itgonna go out into the woods and shoot myself in the mouth
>>558657334>why do newbies think he's OP?Because buying antiheal and spirit res makes their dicks shrivel.
Are the people who keep saying Apollo is overpowered in lane the ones that consistently try to panic parry my abilities as if they're melee attacks before counterspell is even an option? I see this shit at least once per lane as Apollo. Panic parry into me and my teammate punishing their lack of movement and a free kill. Have you guys tried moving backwards instead of parrying when I have the least range I'm ever going to have in the game?
>>558657334>why do newbies think he's OP?Because noobs don't know how to counter, because counters aren't in their L-R build
>>558656563The wording of this comes off as an AI wrote it with no proofreading. I am unconvinced anyone who puts emojis every five words is not a golem
WAITER WAITER MORE 800 SOUL ITEMS PLEASE
>>558657161skillet detected
EVILDOIESTODAY
Which hero is most likely to be wearing a diaper?
Rebuttal should upgrade into Counterspell and Counterspell should be 6k total to make up for it.
>>558657473all but 1 guy in the team are russian
>>558657417>team feeds apollo>"wtf is this hero how are you supposed to beat him?">check their items>0 spirit res
>love game for first 100-200 hours, having fun every match >rank up and improve it a lot>reach a lower-mid rank >realise how abysmally bad i actually am compared to everyone else>matches stop being fun and the game turns into a grind this happens with every multiplayer game i play ....
>>558657417his lunge has too much reach. i never feel like i can outrun it, even when i have a headstart, and it has a tendency to hit around corners for no fucking reason
>>558657572I'd say Rem but it's probably Abrams considering all the gay sex he apparently gets up to. He's probably incontinent.
>>558657608rebuttal is already too strong
>>558657673Before he has range items or max upgrade on 3 it really doesn't thoughbeit. A dash backwards when he starts casting in lane is unironically enough to get out of its range. If people applied proper respect to it instead of staying in and/or trying to parry(????) it and failing then they would find it's not that big a problem.
eternus 3 holliday by the way
>>558657386don't do it anon
>>558657608I just want bullet resist shredder to have an upgrade similar to mystic vulnerability so I can stack it with alc fire
>>558657665The inverse experience is even worse.>start playing marvel rivals>got to GM equivalent in two weeks of grinding>Game is now boring because one missed ability can cost you the whole game.I've been oracle for like six months and every game you can fuck up MASSIVELY and still come back. I think thats what makes the game so compelling.
>>558657743Abrams/Billy/Viscous hands typed this
>>558658016You can have a negative wr and get to celestial in rivals that games ranking system sucks
>>558657572Mina
>>558657439Several reasons. He's a knowledge skillcheck.Players familiar with the game know how to use the movement system, but most players hardly know how to walljump to get away from anything, and Victor sticks to them like glue. New players miss abilities, miss more shots, don't know how to position, don't know how to kite, don't know to fight at their objectives, overextend constantly, they don't know all items -- let alone how his kit works -- to even begin to think of how to counter him, etc.Victor requires good knowledge of literally everything. For most players, this optimized gameplay is second nature, and it naturally counters him.
Today I will play mirage
>>558658194I tried playing Mirage earlier and it felt like I wasn't contributing but whenever I go against him he shreds me.
>>558658086Eh. When i played you had to maintain 50% winrate once you hit master. Not a high bar but tbqh no one plays ranked in rivals anyway
who has the rem drinking monster energy image the archive is down
>>558658172Fair enough but with the movement creep of the new heroes he's going to get worse and worse. Shit sucks man. God help us when the new batch of heroes come out and you get some cunt who can just perma fly or something equally stupid.
>>558657192if you stopped jacking off while playing maybe you'd make it to oracle.
>>558656504What are they going to do, ban me?
>>558658284Since season 0 you could reach gm with a sub 50% wr and when they added celestial you could reach gm with a 40-43%wr. I've played (and seen) players with this since season 0 and stopped playing ranked because I'd get players in celestial with less than a 50% winrate and it made any progress I made feel worthless.
>>558658303That's what I thought too. Graves completely counters him by nuking him, rooting him and punishing diving. Apollo escapes effortlessly with several abilities. Celeste is so overstatted that she outheals, outmoves and outdamages him. Venator shotguns and one-taps him. Silver is a nuclear brawler that will just instakill him with her burst and outheal everything and Rem is Rem.
>>558657639>snake stare.pngThat's a legless lizard, dumbass.
What is the anger inducing duo I can go with a friend? I want people saying nigger in all chat. what Items do we need?
>>558658624Doorman/Mo and Krill. Refresher.
>>558658624rem and shiv
>>558658610Ah thanks. Appreciate it.
>>558658307win some, lose some
>>558658624>>558658658this is the way. make sure to get echo shard on doorman cart too for extra anger
When Doorman sends you to the cuckshed instead of it floating in space it should show a distorted view of what's happening outside of the cuckshed so you can watch like a cuck.
>>558658307nta but I jack off while playing and I'm phantom
Every time I see a sinclair clip appear in my feed I skip because not only is Sinclair corny but his players 9 times out of ten are as well.Nothing cool ever happens with that character
>>558658595Silver is bad but only if she has braincells to buy inhibitor. Until then you can play against her.But yes its not a fun time to be a victor main right now. Praying that anon's forum post causes yoshi to buff him. Show Victor some love.
>>558658658>>558658746Thx
>>558658568well, yeah. 'ranked' is historically a progression system and barely has anything to do with your skill level or knowledge as a player--in like 90% of 'competitive' games. you can coach pro teams and not even be diamond, depending on the game.if you cared about improving over progression than the golems you get matched with shouldn't affect you as much as seeing your own mistakes and going 'i fucked up at X point and this snowballed into a loss'
>>558658848bro look at me m1'ing from 20m away then teleporting in grabbing the most op ult and using ithonestly sinclair is such a braindead char you only need to have game experience to pilot him
>>558659035TRVTHNVKE
>got my 600th win>575 losses>oracle IVi am not progressing fast enough. my winrate for how long i've played is abyssmal. these are unacceptable stats.am i taking the game TOO seriously
>>558658297Why don't you save these things
So is the Yoshi account on the forum just the communal Valve account for viewing feedback, and if so does that mean that if Yoshi has blocked you so he doesn't see your posts your feedback is basically invisible to Valve?
Where are my kelvin buffs
I am currently playing with a rem that has only taken our double sinners instead of the enemy.
>>558659153Yes have more fun and you won't notice the time invested>>558658848The only Sinclair montage I've ever liked is this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYM1iZ11M_U
KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BOLT
>>558659257Every Rem until at least Phantom will do that. I even had a Rem in Oracle that got upset at me for going for our own side's sinners when he was putting helpers on them.
>>558659257I was offering Rem a jump pad to go grab enemy sinners and the retard went to gank leaving me to grab the sinnersThese mouth breathers don't even know their characters strength
>>558659216Every red name on the member list is a developer, you can often find several of them online at once
>>558649464
>>558659332>Be Rem in Phantom>Enemy takes their sinners frame 1>Team has 0 map pressure and flames me for not taking enemy sinners
>>558659179wtf why would haze give him that!? kurobaex didn't download it for some reason
dynamos select portrait is his gloat one and it bothers me
>>558659257i played with a paige that shotcalled like a god, had a cute twink voice and even shielded me before telling me to go punch sinners
>>558659270it's not about the time invested, it's about the growth over time. after 1200 games only being oracle--while actively trying to improve and taking the game seriously-- is unacceptable to me. i should be getting better faster, i'm still stuck on old bad habits i need to break.I wish replays didn't take so fucking long to generate. Maybe I'd remember to actually watch them if i couldn't play 10 more games in the time it takes to generate one replay
>>558659257>press mic activate button>say "hey rem, go steal their sinners i'll help you escape if you get caught"it's that easy
>>558659616>rem responds back in the blackest ghetto voice imaginable to go kill yourself bitchit's that easy
>>558652667>everyone wants to play the new heroescan't believe it
Rework Holliday
>>558659616why would he need help? he only needs to look at them for 1 second to do it
>>558659704Threaten to report his stash of shota porn to police if he doesn't take the enemy sinners.
>Silver introducing Rem to her new boyfriend me!>Silver going "Watch this." and asking Rem if he wants a sip of a grown up drink!>Rem nodding and taking a sip of Silver's beer!>Silver grinning and asking how it tastes!>"I like it!">Silver's grin falling as she goes "Aw... shoot"
>>558659735you hover nearby so if he gets jumped while trying to steal them he can go inside you and get away for free?you can just steal jungle farm while you're waiting, don't actually go in the building with him.
>>558657192archon is just one of those ranks where you are dependent on your teammates being competent to win and most of the time they aren'tas soon as i got out of archon/emissary my winrate started to go up
Did I hear it wrong or is MVP Rem saying something about marrying Darcy in a rapey voice?The fuck?
Holliday fans in this thread are so obnoxious. The kit is fine, get over it.
>>558660060>The kit is fineIt's not, it's trashAlso you forgot to use the reply function, it's ok you'll do it next time.
Then play a different character. Retard
>>558660014He's talking about Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice
>>558660120who exactly should he reply to?
when are we getting the redesign
>>558659937i mean i'm not always competent either i make mistakes too and fuck up now and then but the matches are never consistent and rarely feel fair and usually comes down to whichever side ends up getting the better smurf or stack
>>558659616
>My team's Rem stole all of OUR sinners>Never once stole the enemy team's sinners>Never once put a minion on a trooper>Has TTV in name
>>558660382this was my feeling exactly and although i still feel this from time to time my experience has drastically improved in oracle
>>558660462Rape bait
>>558660229You can play and enjoy a character and be aware of flaws in their kit.
>>558660480it's nice to know that climbing is still possible anon, good luck in oracle too but i've sort of just come to terms with being an archon gamer which has surprisingly helped with not getting tilted too
>>558660501NOOOO MUH LEARNING CURVE NOOOO MY BRAIN IS TOO SMALL NNOOOOOO
>>558660398
>>558660501>0 incentives for playinggod forbid you play a game because its fun
>>558660857NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND...I NEEEEEED A BATTLE PASS GRIND TO PLAY...
if geist was designed today she'd scale from both spirit and missing hp, her life drain would chain to multiple targets and her ultimate would have a 30m range
>>558660501>no incentive to playWAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T PLAY IF THE GAME DOESNT HAVE LEVELS, BATTLEPASS, HERO LEVELS, GLORP'S SECRET STASH LEVELS, AND ANNE'S SECRET CUNT COLLECTION! I NEED FISCAL ENGAGEMENT!!!!!!111
I hate Wraith players so much it's unreal.
>>558660921Hyperbolic nonsense
>>558660921>her life drain would chain to multiple targetsDoes he know? At tier 3 life drain can be attached to multiple people at the same time
Paige Butt
had a dream I parried a billy and killed him but then another billy showed up and I died
>OG castDark, gritty, mysterious niggas>New castOverwatch 19XX
>>558660661i started as an initiate player and never expected to get this far. as long as you win more than you lose your rank will go upalthough with how often yoshi reshuffles ranks your rank is very arbitrary
>>558661157
>>558661157graves and silver fit the game better than sinclair and viscuous and mo and krill thougheverbeit
>>558661256valve saw how many players mina brought to the game and decided to double down on itexpect all the popular women to get a fuck ton of skins whenever they open a cosmetics shop
>>558661256You don't matter
>>558661157>OG casta bunch of Neon Prime rejects, goofy furshits and black wymen in vaguely vintage attire>New CastGothic tropes with sleek designs
>>558661256agoo abooo waaa waaa
>>558661256this but unironically
>>558661446
>>558660501wow didn't know riot started showing live player numbersoh wait....it's a made up number isn't it
People aren't really fucking fawning over Sweet Baby Interactive era Deadlock designs are they? It's contrarianism right?
ivy is such a dumb fucking nigger hero man
>>558658276I did 19k damage in a 40 minute game
>>558661157>2024fags acting like picrel isnt in the game>>558661446this
>>558661446>OG castFun characters with identity and personality >New castprettygirls/boys for whores to cosplay
>>558661612U MAD
>>558661574they are more sovlful than the gacha slop we are getting nowadays...character design is a dead art.
>>558661695so will you be when actual bans get added
>>558657897I mean I don't know the context but that seems a lot better than eidos 18 death on venator. Seriously how the fuck do you die that many times in an eternus lobby aren't they shorter match duration too?
>>558661746>wasting your hero ban on ivy, one of the most nerfed characters in the game
>>558649907It's because there are not enough players to fill out the lower ranks, so the lower you go the more likely you are to have multiple smurfs. I have no idea why valve thought having a gorrilion different ranks for only ~200,000 peak players was a good idea.
>>558661660>no one even looked at my Calico redesign idea on the forumsSurely they're not intending on her staying like this, right?
>>558661746Nobody will ban Ivy just like nobody bans WillowI'll be fine
>>558661157my real issue is they feel less time-period noir designs and more new league championeven venator who has a pretty good design doesn't have much to ground him in the time period besides his gun
>>558661446This. Most of the OG cast are still using their fucking Neon Prime models.
>>558661863>besides his gunBarely, the armour he is wearing is not afaik time period accurate at all so makes him look modern like Billy with his punk aesthetic.
>>558661828>he doesn't know how many heroes still had their unfinished beta models in DOTA2 for years after release
>>558661794Everything between initiate and ritualist should just be merged into one rank, considering that the median rank is emissaryThe entire reason they made ranked mode the only mode is because they decided to add a separate ranked mode but this was back when Deadlock had an average playercount of like 20k so there wasn't enough people to fill up the ranks, instead of just scrapping ranks outright
>>558662126>More people in ascendant than phantom, more in oracle than archonhow does this work
>>558662157read
>>558662157Phantom KINGS are more rare and precious than both or*cles and *scend*nts alike
>>558662157Matches played not players in the rank numbnuts.
it'll be funny to watch all the safehorny puritan troons hang themselves once cadence gets added to the game and has the most sex appeal
>>558661710You're one of those "everything needs to be ugly or it's tranime goyslop with no art direction" types aren't you?
>>558661157>OG cast>Weird unfinished blobs of lame scifi
>>558662287You really ought to learn to just recognize him by the buzzwords he's using at this point, anon
>>558662273>safehorny puritan troonsisn't this exact design what you would call safe horny?
>>558661863>>558661976Venator's vest looks like a modern Kevlar vest even though those were invented in the late 60s
give holliday stun on jumppad landing
>>558662412no
>>558661828If it's in the private sub forums where only Valve can view it and it has no views it probably means your account got blacklisted and blocked by Yoshi so none of the Valve devs see stuff from you. Have you posted about SBI, DEI, SJW shit at any point prior?
>>558662273>>558662412Sleep-inducing, boring shitAlso fat lol
>>558662431
>>558662478>Also fat lol???
>>558662478>sees the most primal-appealing hourglass shape>fatyou can just admit that you are gay, anon, there are plenty of other fags in this general
>>558662126Yeah, merging those would probably help a lot. At least put some distance between the actual shitters and eternus-smurf-558>scrapping the ranks outrightThat's really what they should have done. I know that "casual" is still skill based match-making, but having this shitty "only you can see this rank teehee" is stupid. Especially when you can go to a billion different API scrapping sites and see the ranks anyway. It's just silly.
who the fuck
>>558662573Is that meant to say Kore
>>558662461I've only made 1 post before and that was asking for Silver's freckles back.They probably just don't look at every thread or Calico's art feedback section is dead.
Glad to see that matchmaking is still total fucking garbage that matches no lifing nigger stacks into new playersvery nice
Minas hair looks weird ingame is her model unfinished?
>>558662593>who the fuckOh, that's Mina, anon! I recognize her from this game I play called Deadlock.
>>558661746There not adding draft and bans right? I like the all hero can be played
>matches are now at a rank where I will have to learn how to movement sweat in order to keep upIt's over...
>>558662573It's cool looking but what is it supposed to be? Just a random dress design?
>>558662586There's literally a mod that lets you see your friend's ranks https://gamebanana.com/mods/602711
>>558662789I'm sure you'll be fine anon, I'm in phantom and I still hardly bother doing wall jumps unless I already find myself about to bang into one anyway
Which character would get screwed over by their own wishes?
>>558662852Warden>Patron, go away please
>>558662816Yeah exactly. It's retarded that valve doesn't just display them in the client or make them actually hidden like casual MMR in other mobas.
>>558662852Pocket>wishes to run fairfax industries>gets assassinated and usurped within the weekSilver and Vyper, for the same reasons>wishes for a billion dollars>blows it all on booze and drugs and dies of an overdoseSeven>wishes for so much power he can do anything>ascends to another plane of existence and now no longer wants to do anythingAbrams>"Detective. You already received your boon."Holliday>wishes to find the troubador>he promptly tortures and kills herProbably a whole bunch more too
>>558662623It's the smurfs making the matchmaking fuck up, not the matchmaking itself doing that. There's like 2 level 0 steam accounts in every match because people heckin love smurfing in an invite only closed alpha. The more people that smurf the more the matchmaking looks totally incompetent.
>>558662323LASER'S RUNNING HOT
>>558663002Smurfs should be summarily executed.
>>558662852Bebop>Cures Ms. Shelley's illness>Dies of old age a week later
>>558662412thick sexy demon is never going to happen, sorrysweet baby or not, valve is too gay
>>558663002You KNOW it's a problem when they added a literal report option specifically for Smurfing...
>>558662715I'm just intrigued someone sat down and made a spnati character for Mina, since the game isn't out yet. I thought everyone just did AI roleplay cards these days.>pubic hair tagYeah I'll download her file
>>558662852Mina, Graves, possibly Kelvin and Abrams>>558662997Seven is your average Xianxia power farming protaghe's going to wake up as a miner in the higher plane of existence and do it all over again
>>558663002This, it's a Valve game after all and Valve is severely retarded and thinks that smurfs aren't a problem that actively damage their game.Which is strange because they realized (far too late) that smurfing basically murdered any chance for them to get new players into Dota2.
>>558662997>Mina's wish is to become new york's viscount>Gets usurped and killed after a few days because she's not as powerful or as deceitful as the other far older vamps
>140 matches played and hardstuck arcanist should i just kill myself
>>558663250>MinaThis one is hilarious because she doesn't even want to become the top vampire, just the leader of the New York vampires, when it's explicitly said that the vampire hierarchy don't give a shit about the new world, it's like being mayor of north sentinel island to them
It's amazing how /v/'s reactionary "old good new bad" bullshit reached a point where you have retards defending Concord tier Sweet Baby designs.
>>558663341>when it's explicitly said that the vampire hierarchyprobably euro cope per usual
>>558662548Are you fucking blind?
when are we getting an old school transylvanian vampire
>>558663421The troubadour Or as Drifter would sayDa Troubadour
>haze has 91k>not a single nigger buys disarm curse or at least metal skin
>>558663332>2/3rds of matches in Arcanist have a suspiciously-eternus-skill-tier lvl 0 account in them, if not more than 1No, you should kill all smurfs.
>>558663413>>558662478Cadence is built like a fridge like Miku, they're both 90% muscle
>>558663463Or as Drifter would sayDa Loosadour
>>558663421Gay or just a fag vampire?
>>558663463>adding another vampire murderhobo after Drifterthat would be ridiculously boring
>sick of the new characters >try brawl>some fucking animal on the enemy team is playing rem and healing the brawl minions
>>558663580Why? Because you can't think of a way to make him standout and thus resort to reducing him to the most basic outline we have of him?Maybe you're boring
>>558663463>lets just make hollidays entire reason for being at the ritual pointless and ruin a cool mystery
>>558663391schizoGOD
>>558663657U aight robo boy
What's stopping Doorman from raping the entire female cast?
>>558663657oh my science my sweet baby inc in wakanda above!! yet another extremely talented valve black woman, this one builds fully functioning robots in 1950!
>>558663657What would Ms Shelly's kit be?
>>558663757It would reflect poorly on the Baroness
>>558662997>wishes to find the troubador>he promptly tortures and kills herAccording to the Drifter she would become the Troubador's new hobby, so i dont think there would be any prompt killing.
>>558663762Bebop is a golem, not a robot
>>558663571Ive always fucking hated Vladimir's designThe giant wolverine claws make no sense and he looks like a fag.
>>558663757hes done it a million times so its nothing special
>>558663781she makes lil bebops that run around the place
How do we fix her?
>>558663809>Troubadour falls in love with Holliday and becomes this obsessive stalker>Bonus if he's voiced by Penn Badgley
>>558663898by hosing her down with icy water
>"it's set in the 20s">"it's set in the 30s">"it's set in the 40s">"it's set in the 50s">
>>558663991Doorman after bonesmashing
>>558663890>Ms Shelly summons a horde of Bebops>Echo Shard the skill that summons the horde of BebopsWelcome back Tinkerer
>>558663898Corrective marriage
>>558663757his preference to be the female
>>558663815Then Ms Shelly should be Jewish.
>>558663898Lots of love and patience, and firm boundaries
>>558663463>Land a sick Stalker's Mark on a 25% hp sucker>Ult>Leisurely reload>"TAHM TA PLAE WIT MAH FOUD"
>>558664084the real jews are black people, though
>>558659616Anon if a rem isn't stealing the enemy doubles then telling him isn't going to helpt. I told him to do that the second he went to our doubles and he ignored me
>>558663762the whole point is that Bebop came out so well because he got filled up with Shelly's love for her husband, bro, it's not complicated
>>558664014who are you quoting?
>>558664157the lore community
Add no items deathmatch and the game is 10x better
When will the game allow me to avoid the new heroes? I don't want another useless nigger retard playing apollo going 0-11-3 like literally every single apollo I've ever had on my team does.
Is Drifter capable of being a nice guy?I swear the dude has two modes it's either he's interested in messing with your head or he's interested in clawing out your guts.Like yeah Bebop good eye inviting the hobo with blood stained claws to have dinner with you and your dying creator
>>558664306Wtf I thought Apollo was impossible to lose as because he's uncounterable?
>>558664312Does Bebop really?
>>558664312Drifter is an egoist. He's capable of doing whatever if it strikes his fancy. He is 100% the type to go to dinner with Beebop and Ms. Shelley, be completely cordial the whole time or going to just terrorize them.
>>558664108I laugh every time a drifter pings one of the newer heroes>AH SII DA ENAMIII
>>558663657So Bepbop is not only a ROBOT and a golem (jew) but also black?
>>558664380You should see the nigger retards that pick him on my team.
how do i get more player damage on minai can farm and get kills but it's like i have 0 impact in team fights
>>558664615He's white I doubt aboriginal's have the typical aussie accent
>>558664490Yeah, after Drifter says he hasnt had the opportunity to have a proper meal
>>558664615He's a nigger clanker kike
>>558664654Mina is very positioning reliant. If you're not hitting 3+ people on ulti you probably aren't positioned well.
If the devs insist on me playing support Ivy then why can't they at least give her some actual non-meme support abilities? Tether might be the most useless ability in the game.
this graves mod is cool
>need spirit resil but also need metal skin for silver but also need counterspell for sleep but also need these other counter items tooIt's all so tiresome.
>>558664654Mina sucks and she does is feed
>>558664967Post it!
>>558665024i wish mina would suck and feed me
>>558664984"asking the teacher to go to the bathroom"-ass build
>witness a vyper go ballistic over Victor not pushing lane 2 minutes into match>Starts calling everyone a neet, loser, virgin>His voice cracks >Whole team bullies him into staying quiet while he feeds the enemy teamWhat an interesting game.
>>558664984Drifter and Abrams did better than you without counterspell, sounds like skill issue
>>558664984are eternus lobbies just full of faggot cucks shilling their 2 viewer twitch channels?
>>558664984If all the enemies are doing equally good, I dont buy counters, simple asIts only for one guy going 15-5
>>558665203drifter got picked off by sleep six times
>>558665230yes
>>558662651the game is unfinished my man
>>558664014>guy with a goat head from the future
>it's a dynamo telling the team to never fight before his ult is up episode unsalvageable
>>558665250Yeah and he fucking crushed it anyway so not his problem
>>558665203Abrams didn't need it because Blood Tribute is a fuckton of debuff resist, it's good for debuff based shit you would otherwise want counterspell for unironically.
>>558662651its a wigshe's bald and really insecure about it.
>>558665230...I'm not a faggot cuck...
>>558665324I had a venator who's voice cracked telling our team not to teamfight (we were defending our walker from attack, he was 0/6, my team proceeded to make fun of him and he didn't say anything after)
does mina's ult split damage or damage everyone equally
>>558662431Evil.
>>558663490what's up with the mentally ill and smurfing?
>>558665243This is the truth. Buying too many counters just fucks your own game plan.
>>558663826edward scissorhands lookin mf
>>558663413DYEL post
>>558665604yeah the level 0 steam account that isnt even a year old whos only played game is deadlock is totally a legit player
Schmoovement will kill this game btw
>can report smurfs in game>but also streamers openly smurfso which is it
If you don't buy it, you're trolling.
I learned that Warden and Vindicta have spirit scaling gun attack speed, where do you find this information about the characters? I don't see it tied to an ability or whatever
>>558665739pretty sure it just puts you in a special queue to rank up faster. Downside is teammates become GIGA bad and usually smurfs smurf in stacks or a duo minimum.
>>558665715yeah why are they mentally ill and smurfing in an unreleased vidya gaem?
>>558665604I don't entirely blame them. I'm only Phantom and the matches here are already extremely sweaty no-fun-allowed cancer. I can only imagine how un-fun eternus is, but maybe the answer is "play something else" rather than "club seals and waste everyone's time including your own "
>>558665739Reporting smurfs actually flags your account to be put into games with them. It's all part of an elaborate monetization scam where streamers get money from clip farming, which they then pay Valve for access to lobbies to stomp.
yeah im sure the retard in an arcanist lobby can accurately peg someone as "eternus skill level"
>>558665835open your eyes
>>558665324>enemies in our jungle?>"PULL BACK">1k souls behind?>"PULL BACK">easily winnable fight?>"PULL BACK"I hate support trannies so much
>>558665739report them
>>558665813Good to see Greens are still the best. Also PB of all gun items I mean yeah on that chars it's good it's really good but still interesting. Not even gun carries I geuss.
>>558665835if you hover over bottom left corner stat bars, you can see ones with icons that scale on boon/spirit/etc.
>>558665739the game literally gets balanced around the opinions of streamers, they are an elite class that gets to get away with anything and everything
>>558665739Exactly like in Dota 2:>plebs who smurf get perma-banned and their main gets nuked too>streamers literally get away with anything abd everything Streamers with a viewer count above 10 are a protected class in gaming...
>>558665918can't be botheredsajam has like 4 smurf accounts if anyone does care enough
>>558665813The casters were talking about how greens were op without a hint of ironyThey didnt even realize that both gun and spirit heros will also buy greens so there should be double representation just based off that
Bro Haze is such a free win but it's so damn stressful even if the game going late is good for you. t. dogshieet mmr
>>558665968Thanks>>558665905My eye is already opened I can see the hidden world
>>558665895>One player 20k+ souls above everyone else>No deaths, outskills, and outschmooves any engagements>solo carries every fightSmurfing is obvious. Players who are actually in the skill bracket and have a lead don't stomp the entire lobby for free.
>>558665936Pb honestly doesnt deserve that spot, the moveslow is weak in a sup stam meta and there is better dmg options
Sex with Celeste (she's cosplaying as Miku for you)
>>558665870Someone finally made a mod to remove her tattoos?
>>558665936I mean it really makes sense if you think about it, basically every hero wants greens but there's more of a split on who wants orange and who wants purple.For Point Blank it's just a pretty common frontliner purchase and Silver/Billy/Abe are in every game
>>558665895You don't get it, anybody who shits on me MUST be a top level player with 4 thousand hours trying his heart out. It's the only explanation.
>>558666176> common frontliner purchaseExactly. I still think greens are the best though because Not dying to farm more > Getting an early kill
>>558666161yes...https://gamebanana.com/mods/655264
>>558666209This is such a common thoughtline and the irony is that if someone was really a top level player they wouldn't have to try at all to wipe the floor with some super low mmr lobby
>>558665895Correct, I definitely can't recognize the 25/0 victor at minute 15 with 50k souls who just killed his 3rd walker and has pixel-perfect schmovement and can cross the map faster than the rest of us can using zipline boosts as an eternus level player. Nope, it's not obvious at all. Nope, definitely not a smurf. Completely innocuous.
>Trying to learn movement>every video starts with a 3 minute explanation of alternate keybindsYeah, it's Valve Jank time.
>>558666375perfect, I was using the gooner one but it was kinda shite.
>>558666127I have like 30-40 hours and the game threw me in seeker where all of my games were basically that until I hit around Archon.
>totally not smurfers are pretending normal players can't recognize smurfing againDo you retards not remember DotA 2?
I MAY NOT BE DIVOYN BOT EYE AM POWERFOYL
>>558666436default keybinds are fine unless you got babyhands and can't hit shift/ctrl
>>558666436i add crouch to mouse 5 and dash to mouse wheel down
>>558666417Noooo Anon, He just got lucky that game. Ignore the Steam account level and 5 game match history (all five are exactly like this).>>558666505Smurfing is worse in low rank, news at 11.
>>558665813I don't understand why reactive barrier isn't built moreisn't it literally just a fucking OP item against anyone who has CC?
hmm i wonder what mina is going to do
>>558666845mmm free sinners sacifice
You don't need to assess players' skill relative to the lobby to figure out they're smurfing. All you need to do is check their profile. If it's a level 0 account made within the last few months it's a smurf, duh. Oh would you look at that there's at least one in every single Archon game.Eternus niggers taking a vacation from their hacker-filled sperg lobbies to cyberbully coughing babies to make themselves feel better.
>>558666624IAD is rough on default. Short Hopping I think go removed so it doesn't matter as much anyway. One stam dash jump requires a scroll wheel bind thoughtbeit
>>558666936>IAD is rough on defaultisn't iad just jump dash really fast
>>558666845Oh wait I just realized they replaced the ugly ass stylized minimap icons
>>558666925I still see that shit in Oracle from time to time, anon. I wouldn't be surprised if there's the occasional eternus smurf in fucking Ascendant, lol.
>>558666936>IAD is rough on default.No it isn't lol
Every game i've played for the few days has just been my team getting shit stomped. I'm so tired
>>558666936One stam dash jump IS short hopping retard it also is doable without a scroll wheel bind now and iAD isn't rough on default binds at all
>>558666979It's a very narrow window. I use dash on V so I can hit space + v with my thumb and make it garunteed. Using two fingers for it with space + shift makes it inconsistent.
>>558657665I'm having that experience in Arcanist at 80 hours in
>>558666925Bro you don't get it I made an alt so I can test new characters! (I will go 30/3 as literally any character and learn nothing)
>>558667116That was last week for meThis week it's the reverse
>>558667143yeah you're just retarded
>>558666936IAD no longer maintains perfect velocity. All the unintended tech has been nuked in the last week or so after Metro did that huge stream about learning it.
>>558666845MINA THERES LIKE 5 PEOPLE GREEN PUSH THE WAVE AND DO SOME OBJECTIVE DAMAGE YOU FUCKING PIG-ACK!
>>558667035these? theyve been gone for like a year
>>558667116I think most of it is my fault because of how poorly I do in the laning phase. Then I'm complete shit in teamfights too.
>>558667116Yeah I just lost half a dozen matches in a row, every one a stomp. My favourites are the ones that start well so you think the streak is over and then turn into an even harder stomp than usual.
>>558666845This is literally the perfect splitpush scenario holy shit, too bad the Apollo and Mina were probably retarded and didn't push
>>558667208it's still better than dashing if you're chasing someone
>>558667187Go look up any movement tutorial and they will say the same shit. >>558667208>All the unintended tech has been nukedThat I didn't know, thank you Yoshi.
>>558667249what were they thinking
>>558667285>doing well on lane, getting a few kills in and pushing good>10 minutes in>check the scoreboard>enemy drifter with 9 kills
>>558667304>other retards agree with me!yeah I'm gonna go ahead and not rebind anything because I don't have baby retard handsIAD is easy
>>558666624Idk how to break it to you but jump on scrollwheel has been mandatory source bind for decades
I cope and think that because Valve realized that smurfing hurts their game after they started making some effort to combat it in Dota2 a few years ago then they must be working on a strong smurf detector.And since smurfing is already reportable I hope that they won't let the problem grow into the huge problem it became in Dota2 because several people I got to play Dota2 stopped enjoying it exactly because of obvious smurfs in their games.Fuck smurfs and the subhumans that do it, the only people I know that smurf in games are deadend NEETs or some other type of trash.
>lose 10 games>win 4>rank goes up from arcanist to ritualistHOW DOES THIS WORK
>>558666765>Smurfing is worse in low rankNo, I'm saying most of my matches were me with 20k souls more than everybody hard carrying matches getting 20-30 kills until around Archon. Like the game needs to calibrate people and people don't need to be Eternus to stomp Arcanist matches. People also have great games even in their skill bracket especially in a genre where characters can quickly snowball out of control and particularly at low elo where nobody buys items against them.
>>558667435>scroll to jump>immediately waste stamina by double jumping
>>558667435don't care, not doing itI can corner and edge boost perfectly fineeverything like ag2 or whatever is an exploit and has been/will be removed
>haze player>whining that they had to 'le carry' playing a low iq hold m1 on target herolol maybe lmao if i feel like it
>>558667510rank doesn't matter because there's so many new players that if you perform well you will get sent up in rank resets anyway
>>558667548My wheel clicks so I dont ever do that
>>558666925not to be defending eternus players, but being top % with so little people in the first place must be horrible. youre matched with the same people pretty much and they all probably hate each other. i agree that they shouldnt smurfbut if i had to bring another game idea, it's adding MENTORS who will purposely queue lower ranks to "help" newbies like in FFXIV but i highly doubt it would work and people would just grind for the crown to pwn noobs
>>558666795It also scales with spirit, so it's kind of insane to NOT get it since almost everyone builds at least 4.8k of spirit
I don't see how people ever have the time to do box runs when laning
>>558658893how would you buff Victor?
>>558667510isnt rank based on personal performance and not winning/losing?
>>558667678yeah but im not doing well, i had like 1 game where i actually did well, all the other ones were either getting stomped or carried by some smurf
>>558667564Its for bhoping
>>558667435Maybe for movement trannies that get off on spending 15 hours labbing frame-perfect movement bugs lolNever rebinding it to mousewheel
>>558667519On your level 0 steam account? Calibration is one thing, but statistically there shouldn't be someone in need of calibration in basically every match.
I almost never do well. I never win laning phase. I never get kills
>>558667785No that would be retarded
>>558667783Make his ult apply a slow on activation like Paige's sword
Are any of those aim game training program things worth getting into? My aim is so dogshit
