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Mr. Pasara killed the game
I love my wife so much bros
>>558749335Blue anus
>>558749335are they for (You)
>>558749335>Craig won>Ghanda wonWho else won?
>>558750250That's not Nier...
>>558750250Rice would never do this.
They call me the Levleath fucker
>>558751217danchou...
>>558750887Thanks Hazel
>>558749335c&c
>>558751404Cleaning & Clearing?
Jarvis, do you thing
>Wahnungrande is ruled over by harvinsimagine being conquered by midgets
>>558751613>Phil Kiss
>>558751718I don't need to imagine
>>558751613>character first shown two months ago>in the game's main story>newest female main party member>no image>3/5 it's sloppy AI
>>558751907Just wait for the totally for (you) seasonal/grand
>>558751718That's just our Mad Max harvin events>tied_pregnant_Bea.png
>>558752051We love Guzaletha and Rhiogur here howeverthoughbeit
>>558751613>insect sex>grubby phil kisswhat the fuck is wrong with grubbas?
>>558751613>>558751907Safe to say that the new races are an unnecessary flop.
Grand Galgelielle doko?
"insect" more like "inSEX"
>alliah gets jealous of lecia because gallanth and walfrid were very close friendsdidn't think she'd be the jealous type especially for something so minor
Don't fuck bugs.
>>558752524She's feeling insecure when Gran never dick her despite being his fiancee
>>558752528grubs...
>>558752528Is it okay to fuck Harvin ojousamas though?
Is it okay to play Ghandagoza in Relink?
>>558753453shut the fuck up
>>558753453He is fun and does big damage when done right but he is too slow, has no good gap closers and is easily fucked out of his big damage hits because of how the boss fights are designed. Many kinds of folk would call you a troll for picking just character in anything where it matters but it really doesnt in Relink. Hopefully expansion rebalances him
proculus looks too much like a super buff caesar
>>558753470Normal people WARPED you
of course it'll warp me if it was /gbfg/'s single worst meme ever
>I'm actually unironically warped
>>558753585Thanks for an actual response, I appreciate it. I tried him out against a few low difficulty bosses like solo Gallanza and Id because the memes had me curious and I kinda like his gameplay flow, but I can tell that his slow, precise timing and long wind-up playstyle just clashes heavily with the type of game Relink is on Proud difficulty.It's even more sad when there are other characters with timing based playstyles, like Zeta and even Siegfried, and they can work just fine.
>>558753589>looks like Caesar>also has a roman name>gets pissed when people talk shit about the astral in charge of the WK's skydomHe's obviously his ancestor.
https://files.catbox.moe/nfj0v9.rar
blud's responding to himself with a pre-prepared post again geez...that's really lame.
>every post I don't like is samefaggingNot. Even. Warped.
The Phil Kiss bug set wasn't even good
I am definitely warped by those god dang homoflops
>>558754832damn, you too???
How does Varuna compare to Leviathan? What's the cutoff point? I have 2 Ebony Retribution, 1 Yatima Bow (for now, will probably spark another after I get my 2nd causality driver, fuck Exalto) and 1 Gabriel weapon. I feel like it can be hard to accurately assess the cutoff point. I have like 3 of every other water grand weapon (minus Wamdus because I never got her ever)
>>558754832Nothing but FAX from this post
here comes the 1000 word response that starts with>Thanks
>>558754832I used to be the best in the business...fuck those goddang homoturds for ruining me
>here comes the 1000 w-ACK!
>>558754620Cease
>>558754832this general kept screaming something about normal peoplewhere they really at???? I don't see them anymore...
Is it really so much of a shock that somebody would be interested in playing the funny shitpost character after said character gets memed here?Is it a shock that somebody would ask a Relink related question, and then get advice when Relink came back from the deadIs that really a surprise when there's barely anything else to talk about on this thread?
>>558754915>How does Varuna compare to Leviathan?You actually deal skill damageAlso 100% crit rate is niceMagna can use Dingers in ougi and Water burst is no longer as awful as it was during AA era (you have M3 daggers, M3 axes and you can use Gabu daggers), plus the element is heavily carried by its characters so even magna Water can feel strong as fuck. But forget about skill damage teams in magna - sure, Odious finally gave out F2P Tempering, but you're forced to go with a grid that nerfs your stats (even if you try to compensate with MKII Dingers) and that's obviously worse than what Varuna can provide.Magna also can't into Hraes, but it's not like Hraes has a lot of viable content to be used in.
>>558755214>where they really at?Right here
It's a shock to me how they think shilling naked males is the answer
Out of all the males they could have chosen to mention in dragon's xmas fates, why ghanda?
>>558755263Dragon's drinking buddies!!!!oh haha... sorry for the outburst......I will stay quiet in my corner now.......I am gran, you danchou btw..........
https://litter.catbox.moe/5q2fnq.png
It appears my superiority has caused a bit of controversy.
>>558755353Relink
Ghanda's a funnier shitpost character than Rakusho ever was. Fight me.
>>558755353because he is friends with the soiya trio and they were all mentioned as being assigned shopping duties
>>558755353big draphs cock
>>558755608neither is funny
Ghanda should fuck Dragon into submission.
>>558755363Somehow the halloween outfit got more lewds out of it than the Christmas one ever did and I am kind of salty about it
>>558755898I say this and do this
Can't spell Djeeta without Jeet saar
Western Yaiahttps://litter.catbox.moe/j2wuqx.jpg
>>558756373I somehow thought of cowboyhat and stuff for a second and would likely be mildly disappointed if litter actually worked and I could see behind the link
>>558749335His father is the Astral dude, isn't he? He's basically the less roid'ed version of him.
>>558749335https://github.com/TegamiDess/4chan-image-filterAutomatically filters out (or swaps) images using CLIP for style recognition (Artist/Slop Style/Character) and dHash as a vastly superior MD5 for duplicate detection.Drag and drop images in a folder for CLIPALT+Left Click for dHashcomplaints/problems: filterbitch.remark853@passinbox.com
>>558756456Thought about adding>not the cowboy varietyto the post but relented in the end.
>>558756558Proculus still looks more like Vane with a better hairstyle to me
Is there a reason Sandalphon ISN'T in this Anniversary? He's a main crew member. The time he SHOULD be here isn't.
I don't want to annitix atum because that's so fucking gay....
>>558756729Shut up FKHIV
>>558756729he hasn't joined the main crew just yet in the msq. when we last saw him he was hanging out in the sky and dissociating over the islands he dropped coming back
>Where is Sandalphon Next you will ask>Its an Astral focused event, where are Faa and Bubs?
why isn't Yaia in this event?
>>558756987When I heard White knight Astral "liege">paler and skinnerFaa came to mind.
>>558755253Yeah my varuna grid right now is a bit lackluster looking at the core pieces and I'm not sure about investing bars if 3 exalto daggers + some m3 axes are likely to give me a better performance. My main team right now is Yatima/Europa/Gabriel which does feel strong as fuck. I'm pretty sure "optimised magna" beats "lackluster primal" but I'm not sure about the cutoff point.
>>558757161She's still in my captain's quarters recovering. Poor thing was left gasping all night
>>558754831Is he confirmed an Astral? He might be the first white knight.
>>558757521This is my favourite Yaia image
>>558757474>>558755253This has been treating me well but caling this a bandaid fix is an overstatement. I'm at the "do I wanna use bars on this" point.
>>558757815then Octavia should have remembered him
even with alchemy event siegfrieds still fail. can they nerf this raid already? the powercreep necessary to make full auto possible will just make the game worse.
>>558758769FA is already possible, and has been for some time
>>558758769just solo it cutie
>>558757874This one's mine
>someone asks for help off-script>"non-answer: the post">"non-answer: the post: the sequel"
>off-scriptYou are so warped it's unreal
>asking for helpBitch was complaining about a raid that can already be FA and even soloed on ascendant. Shut the fuck up scriptbab
no 9000 word essay this time? youch!
>Bitchgrubbas...
>>558758863if you move to your raid tab and select siegfried and view the results you would realize how dumb your statement is. >duurrr why is there a dozen fp raids stuck at 95% for ten minutes
O MY INVISIBLE SAMEFAGS
>on ascendant
>>558755253what makes you do skill damage? most example grids I see have 0 or 1 fagselot dagger.
I love granblue fantasy
>>558759274he really thinks "soloed on ascendant" is an argument LOL
BITCH GOT A PENIS BITCH GOT A PENIS BITCH GOT A PENIS BITCH GOT A PENIS BITCH GOT A PENIS BITCH GOT A PENIS BITCH GOT A PENIS
>>558759343I love Granblue too!
>>558759365
>give a thought out response to somebody asking a question"Hurr look at the pathetic samefag desperate for attention with his 9000 word rehearsed script">give a meme response"I guess samefag didnt like that one huh" (Read: "But you responded to Ghandafag, why wont you respond to MEEEEEE-ACK!")
>>558759365Satyr would say this
>>558759356>mode that's available for literally everyone to use>d-d-doesn't countCry about it retard
uh oh sub400 melty
>seething at Relinkers talking to eachother>insisting that every post he doesnt like is one dude with a script talking to himself>seething because nobody cared to answer his Mr. Pigfried question>>>>>Bhadra outta nowhereA coincidence, I'm sure.
I just transed him
>ask for help>doesn't get help>gets mad It's that easy.
(You)
I'm about to troon out...
>>558760093grubbas...
Why did he post a picrel of (me)?
I still have hair.
>>558759253>https://gbf.wiki/Siegfried_(Raid)/Grids#19:08-13Cosmos is still worse than Sieg in this regard.People have been FAing Sieg since Neko/Shion were the only option, the fact that they stall out is nothing compared to Cosmos straight up failing every other third run.Sieg at least clears
>>558760168You're normal?
>literal whataboutismI CAN'T lmao
>>558760089You could play as this fuck ugly buff man, or just play Percival.
I can and I will
>>558757161I can't help but notice she looks suspiciously like Djeeta.
>>558757474Before Yatima all you needed was like 1-2 Galilei, 1-2 Taisai, 1 KoI and 2 Gabu daggers. Wambrellas were required for Hraes but otherwise weren't that important.After Exalto became a thing Wambrellas were dropped entirely and crit weapon dupes were replaced by Yatima bows, so in most cases 1 Taisai and 1 Galilei with 2 Yatima bows is enough. Hraes went full meme (if you don't have newest bullets, Formal Ilsa and ideally a dupe of her then you might as well not bother at all), Onmyo Shishio is still okay in endgame but Manadiver with DOpus is still retarded.Magna Water is doing fine except skill damage - you can't benefit much from S.Monki, your Yatima won't be that strong, forget about chars like 150 Quatre, V.Cassius and H.Rat. But you can still go brrr with chars like Europa/Gabu/Dragon/Haase/S.Tefnut/S.Shalem>>558758150Honestly, I think you're only missing a second Yatima bow to get Varuna grid for general content. You have nothing for modern Hraes burst and you might need more stuff for endgame to get some DEF and TA. YOu can try to farm M3 and get nice experience with DOpus Manadiver, Europa, Gabu and Dragon, but if you want to use chars who spam skill damage (Haase, Yatima, etc.) then going Varuna is a good idea.
>>558760376Playing the fuck ugly buff man sounds funnier (and more normal), so I think I will play him.
>>558760485>except skill damageI feel like there's a class of weapons recently released that fixed this
>seething from just thatNot even a BA image could cause a melty like this LMAOO
>>558760389>>558760553Goza is a borderline troll character. If Relink had a kick system I would boot your asses unless you swap to Rackam or Cagliostro
>>558760629Galge warped him so hard that any form of enjoyment or fun now sends him into a frenzy...
Grablue won so hard...
>we came together with the idea of wanting to create the perfect little sister character. Everyone from the dev team brought their ideas to a pool that we picked things fromI wish they told more stories about creation of specific characters
>>558759091Who asked for help?
>>5587592951 KoI and 1 skill Awakening TaisaiVaruna x Varuna with 2 Exalto, Gabu and maybe Wamdus summon gives you a really good about of skill cap and skill supplemental just from those two weapons. I think VerSUSia x Varuna also works because 20% damage amp buffs skill damage output really well.
da profits
seems easy enough to me
>>558760771>play MY approved characters or I will ACKNobody wants to party with your sweaty ass anyways xis
>00:11
>>558760925>TWO (QUATRE) HarvinsTake this post down RIGHT FUCKING NOW or else I will go NUCLEAR and take this entire thread down with me
>>558760597Yeah, but like I said in >>558755253>sure, Odious finally gave out F2P Tempering, but you're forced to go with a grid that nerfs your stats (even if you try to compensate with MKII Dingers)Doesn't help that you're forced to go Odious x Odious (so forget about Bubs or Versusia setups) and your magna weapons do fucking nothing, so slotting in 2-3 Dingers and going with ougi + skill damage team is the best you can do.
>>558760830Translation:>We asked the team about their incestuous fetishes and condensed our depraved ideas into one character so artists will make R18+ art and doujins off of her so we can jack off to it.
Yaiaraging is surprisingly rare, considering how the usual Pozspect loves to label his opposition as pedoshit or diddykeksteinbludsI actually can't remember the last time he seethed at Yaia.
>>558761113Non-Varuna water can't into moms raid with either spec so there's never really a time where you'll need all three damage types in equal measure.Odious/Odius gives you more health than Magna gets in their usual multi-turn fa fights (nm250), so it's not like they don't have a purpose. The grid is competitive for some cases even as incomplete as it is.
>>558761540he posted yaiajak like 3 days ago IIRC
why is haase so sexy and why didnt katz impregnate her
>>558760283you haven't updated in yearsif your cosmos fa fails, it fails at sub 25%. which the vast majority of players are willing to join and manually finish.siegfried setups often fail at the very start of the raid, which means no one joins and you've wasted your timealso linking 20+ minute fa clears is hilarious in 2026.
>>558762079grubbas being dishonest??? well I never!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8brp_u7UOI
>>558754915Other players more versed in this game than me have already answered you, but it sounds to me like you can easily go Varuna as soon as you get a second Exalto. I assume your Varuna summon is at least 5* (preferably Lv230+)?>(minus Wamdus because I never got her ever)Me neither, and as much as I like her I can never spark regular Wam since there's always something better to spark (like her Valentine alt, ironically enough)
what now..?
>>558761157Absolutely based. Almost as based as the time artist was drawing a new draph character and FKHR came in and told him the tits were too small for a draph and laughed
>>558761889>why is haase so sexyBeing the princess of Galgenia comes with an innate charm buff>why didnt katz impregnate herBecause she chose Danchou and he has no choice but to respect her wishes
>>558762567Never replaced, always core, and all you need!Funf is pretty cute too!
>>558762526Katz is a hardcore siscon but not the sexual kind. Just the overprotective and loving type
>>558762708the one that will beg danchou to fuck his sister to continue the galge bloodline?
>>558762079>tried finding an updated sieg solo>nadaSeems that way. I've always had worse experiences with cosmos but dark has gotten quite a few new things since then.Speaking of,>https://aokusukitoru3ytn.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-5670.htmlHas a slow as a balls but easy magna fa solo for sieg if you clarisse
>>558762708I do feel a little bad for Katz, he entrusted his sister's custody to Danchou since she can't stay in Galgenia with him, and then she goes and falls for him while still barely tolerating Katze at best. Tootman deserves better.
I still cant believe Galgenia is a real word
>>558762810That's his seasonal fate, where he tries to sell Luvera as the superior catch to danchou, in an attempt to scare Haase into backing off. And then it backfires when both sisters are fine with sharing danchou
>>558763695YJK
>>558763695Do earthen dwellers really?
>>558763683https://archiveofourown.org/works/60540874?view_adult=true
why do japs love quadruple amputees so much?
>>558764589I blame Obui and Japanese Shadman for this
>>558763813>game has several actual YJK girls>all the art for it is the most random weird picks
>>558764589Fuck nuggets
Does this work for Faa0? I'd like to do more than just hostleech especially because 20% is the risky part. I have the Fediel gun and Hexa is a fairly comfortable raid. How do you ensure 100% TA rate for the "do 4 TAs" omen?
>>558764589they invented onahole
>>558762567They need to stop releasing outfits where literally nothing changes.
>>558764589>Punctured ear>Other ear might be missing entirely>Eye patch>No limbs>Formaldehyde soaked cloth slathered over tits and belly>Stapled surgical scars>DEEP fudonshi>Clockwork wombPunished Pholia sure does check a lot of boxes.
>>558765063>Rei>MomoilogiaGood, good, all you need is->Nyier...
How old is too old?
>>558765513STOP POSTING THIS!!! EVERYDAY I'M REMINDED THAT I SHOULD HAVE PICKED UP A DARK EXCALIBUR INSTEAD OF DIRT!!
>>55876554019
>>558765664Its funny because I grabbed dark Excalibur out of impulse when the ticket was about to expire and was intending to use it in a stupid team with Rat and S.Hallessena.It turned out that stupid decision was one of the best choices I ever made in this game.
I'm only on chapter 163 of MC. How much do I need to read before I should start the event?
>>558766387It has blue goblin 2 and Caesar from the latest msq chapters. So all of it.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141683294
>>558766387read until 191 included, and the free quest following it
>>558760480hym...
>>558765434Please post full
>>558766645Urrgh I cba, oh well here goes
>>558766765There is some similarity in the hair but important small details are different like Djeeta having proper vent
>>558766757based
>>558766765Now Alslop Djeet as a draph with big tits.
>>558766757>yuri
So when does Darydara get to become the new Violet Knight?
>>558766775that's full, the shitty character reference mode can't make anything else
>>558761540Almost everyone realizes at least on a subconscious level how low it would be to attack and slander Yaia.
>>558766792It's actually weird how this anniversary event is so firmly rooted in the msq timeline. They're clearly referencing topics that were just talked about in the latest msq chapters. All the previous anniversary events, and events in general, had almost no relevance at all to the main plot, everything being later just explained as "alternative timelines".
>>558765540someone with two millennia of experience would be able to destroy you verbally even if you overpowered them. like as soon as she saw your penis with her one eye, a small scoff would permanently annihilate any semblance of confidence you once had. i wouldn't risk it.
I've been stuck on chapter 119 of MSQ since like 2020.
>>558766765>small horns>brown hair>wind and dirt unitsCarmelina and Djeeta science baby.
Remember when Yoda uncap randomly referenced several anniversary events and main story at the same time?
>cut my spark stash in half because of wamBros they will give at least 100 rolls worth of bigs before roulette ends right? I know we get 40 from the stream but can we get MORE??
>>558767316This made me think of the fact that most flashback kid draphs from what we see have very similar horns to what they have as adults. But Yaia is lot younger than any of those so she might still have some changes to the shape with time. Length at least but was thinking of curvature since most draphs have some. Or maybe she will just have stubs the rest of her life
https://x.com/zkr_gbf/status/2027355804496736349
We of Fleet are recruiting There are no quotas Apply todayわれわれフリートは団員を募集しているのだ!ノルマなんてないのだ!今すぐ応募するのだ!
new grand soon bros!
>>558767585I wouldnt want to roll for Walfrid now this close to anniversary discount sparks but I would also be pissed if its not a grand unit so I am cursed either way
>>558767585>skipped the month end fest because NY had free rolls>ended up with no BhaisaWhy is history repeating itself again so soon?
>>558767237I am milk
>>558767839yes flash will be vk
>>558767551I think it works similar to Erune ears, where it largely depends on what "animal" they're based on. The only other draph with horns that small is cow, and it's obviously because of her Zodiac namesake. So yeah, Yaia's either hasn't taken shape, or hers are purposely small because she's a doe. Which kind of makes sense given her constant Christmas appearances, but she could've easily been given proper reindeer antlers if that was the case.
>>558768289cute&canon
>>558767167It's grim af
>>558767167it took them about 10 years to finally decide, yeah we'll stop making events on a very loose timeline so introduced the dragons to establish the multiple timelines happening and then slowly tying them together by through them again finally making the perfect unified timeline
>>558767287I've been skipping for years, going back to 133 for that hot midget
>>558767167It's certainly unusual in comparison to most previous events, but I wouldn't call it weird. In fact, I'd argue it's weird that the anniversary events so far were so detached from the MSQ. If not all events, and vice versa. Like, if you stop to think for a moment, Narmaya just popped up in the main crew OUT OF NOWHERE. Meanwhile, Ferry, whose story follows the exact same patter all the previous main crew memebers' stories were, and who is included in every spin-off, and featured in promo materials together with the main crew, is still canonically not part of it. To a very slightly lesser extent this applies to Shitori as well.
>>558768879OH YEAH FINNA PUT A RING ON THAT
>>558762269Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'm missing Formal Ilsa and Dragon, the latter of which I might just spark with the discount. I only have 150-ish rolls right now (with another 70 in side stories) so 1 spark is definitely in the cards. I'm still not sure who I want to use my annitix on, I have Varuna and Hades as the only primal elements (having invested way more into Hades) so it's either going to be S. Cow for dark or ??? for Water.Thanks for the advice. Have an Europa(l)
>>558768289What are those weird squiggles? Is that cursed speech?
>>558767327I get the point you're making, but I'd like to reinforce your point by pointing out that it wasn't "random" at all. That year was full of these things. That's the year Bahamut uncap came, and we got his Fate episodes, which showed Faa and main story at the same time. That's the year where Orologia anni was, which was full of main story and events all being at the same time. In fact, the whole point of the Logia anni was that everything must happen exactly the way it has, there is no second option, everything else leads to worse outcomes. Not a single detail is allowed to change. Yoda uncap came months after that.They were, quite obviously, not at all planning to separate main story and events. Because it's retarded to do so. Every single thing becomes a mess if they're separated. If they're separated, everything dealt with in events is still not occurred, so Sandalphon is imprisoned in Pandemonium and Lucifer is alive, but not helping out. Cosmos never dies, but does nothing when the world is threatened by Otherworld in main story. The moon forces have Diaspora. Dharma is about to burst, because Gran hasn't helped fix it or brought Zodiacs together. Hell, even Auguste is gone, utterly, with repeatedly disasters every year. Conversely, every main story threat, which is an end of world level issue, is still present. Akasha is fine. We never get Sky Map pieces to cross Grim Basin. You get the idea. Events cannot work without main story happening, so events never even pretended main story was separate. The very month after the "separation" we got Juri's awful comedy event, which features main story and event elements together. Because of course it does, it involves Erste Empire and Erste Kingdom. You can't get that without main story. Trying to separate them was a stupid idea and they abandoned it after one update because they got a lot of shit from anyone that cares about this game's story.
>>558768963This europa art makes me understand why some gods did what they did
>>558769018third world tongue, speaking it will immediately make you poorer
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141680037
>>558769018It's clearly hebrews
>nipple piercings
>>558769068>Juri's awful comedy eventIt was fine.
>>558769312Haa...SEX!
I only noticed grub trying to converge their timelines together after seeing how much another game with its history-defining volume did it first and it was a huge success that turned that game into a historical milestone of gacha writing.
>>558769564Obviously, I disagree. I like Juri so I was even looking forward to seeing him. It was a comedy event with like 2 jokes in it. The story was instead about nameless nobodies fixing a pointless comedy show, where no one is telling a joke. Sometimes when grub writers make events about specific things, like sauna, you can tell they care about those subjects and write in details. Here, they skipped everything about manzai itself, the writer had no interest in it, and just talked about the sappy feelings of the second guy Juri got, whose name I can't even remember, and his relationship with some retarded Harvin bad guy.
>>558769768I think the Raguza event is better comparison than Sauna since its similar kind of stage art. You can have opinions about the characters from it but it was way better than the Manzai event and a good example of porting artform to grub setting. Actually showed the stage act, made it a part of grub lore instead of just being a thing, and also had genuine fantasy elements to it with the ghosts as per setting. Manzai was just manzai without manzai, the characters nor setting made no difference to the writing. They could just change character art and names and throw it to some other modern setting game and it wouldnt look out of place.
>>558769068I have a guess as to why we got a whiplash of changing directions like this. The reason was simply that it was one guy making dumb decisions, and no one to check him or call him out on that. https://pastebin.com/qnschRUY>Interviewer: As the main story enters a new chapter, has there been any changes in the scenario-writing structure? >FKHR: I've stepped back a little from directly handling the main story, and future developments will be entrusted to Terashima and other veteran writers. I think this will lead to there being some fresh new ideas and flavors to the main story, and I'm personally excited to see what they will be too. >Terashima: Up until now, I've mostly been writing the main story all alone under Fukuhara, wrestling with it by myself. But starting with the new chapters, I'm looking forward to working with a larger team. All the new members of the team are writers who have worked on many interesting scenarios in past, so I'm confident the story will only get better. And in the new interview they did a few days agohttps://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/260218g/2They mention the writers and artists are now working together for the first time after 12 years. The interviewer asks if working together is nice, why didn't they do it earlier?>Scenario Writer B: I don't want to be misunderstood, but it was because no problems arose because of that previous approach. As is the case with main story writer Terashima, who wrote almost all of Estalucia arc by himself, GBF has parts that are carried entirely by a single individual's abilities and vision.>Discussing things together can be risky, with various opinions getting mixed and that direction becoming unstable[...] But after 12 years, we can avoid that easily, and work together now.Just one guy making retarded decisions, and event writers not there to call him out on that, until now. Now they work together, so retardation got reduced.
Can somebody post the part of the interview where FKHR says that he killed off half the cast because writing their interactions would be too difficult
>>558770487Interviewer: The protagonist got separated from his companions. Was this something decided in advance? FKHR: As we approached the truth of the world and the truth, the story would center around the protagonist, Vyrn and Lyria, that was what Terashima and I had decided long ago. These three are at the core of the crew, the drama of the story had to converge on them in order to wrap things up properly. Terashima: But I really struggled on separating the protagonist from their companions. When we decided on the flow of things going from a big battle against Otherworld, a powerful foe, to reaching Estalucia, I decided on separating them this way. This would become a story about family at this point, placing both Gallanth, the protagonist's blood related family, side by side with the crew, a family he's built himself, it would create a risk of giving the impression that one was more important than the other. It is because they're both important as families, we decided to focus everything down on the protagonists. Interviewer: If the protagonist had met Gallanth alongside the rest of the companions, it might make the main theme more blurred. Terashima: Yes. On the other hand, while writing the script, I did feel it was sad that the protagonist would not get to introduce his crewmates to Gallanth. If Eugen was there, it'd be a bit unusual if I didn't write what he thinks of Gallanth, as another father, and Rosetta had traveled with Gallanth in past, so we'd have to touch on that too. Each character has these elements to them, so I felt the story would get unfocused, without separating them. FKHR: But we did think for quite carefully about whether to make the companions die. Up until now in Granblue, dead characters almost never come back to life... In the end, because the story involved major events that affect the world in a major way while taking place in the Estalucia, where the dead go after death, we ended up settling on the companions dying.
>>558771163They're not wrong. It was the right decision. You can laugh at it as "they can't write the interactions" but that's not what they're saying, it's that writing these interactions would make the story worse, and it would.I had the same thought while reading the current anni event. If this was even last year, there would be fucking Eugen, Io, and Roetta in the cast, saying literally nothing of substance. They'd be just bogging down the pacing harder, as they have done so in many previous anni events. Getting rid of them made it better. Even the fact that Rackam is still around is annoying in this event, why is he part of the battle against Ahhazu? The fuck is he even contributing? Did you also need Eugen going drinking or Rosetta going "that man...!" or "that man!!!" over and over again here? Or whatever the fuck would Io do.
>>558771460Yeah now we have Six and Narmaya hanging around providing nothing of substance to the story
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>>558771163the way they talk you would think they are writing a serious epic or something.in reality they are writing something akin to the level of a bargain bin isekai novel and they are just making up excuses for themselves not to put too much character interactions so they will less work to do.this is why when people try to talk about grub to people outside of the fandom they will never mention anything about the story, especially the MSQ.
>>558771616At least they have fans and are prettier
>>558771460imagine getting pissed off at fake deaths to progress one part of the story when that's all his homo god tolkien knew how to do. waiting for him to explain that one.
>>558771740NTA but while that is true, the addition of those 2 into the MSQ just tells you that they are there for popularity issues and not because they SHOULD be in the crew, it feels cheap.
>>558771616They are at the risk of becoming that, yes. I was always skeptical of people asking for event characters they like as main cast because they'd end up just as useless as older main cast, because stories aren't about them.But I will not make that judgement just yet, it's their first time around and they aren't even done, they might actually matter to the story. Darydara, for example, is already important to the plot, being the son of Violet Knight. Six and Narmaya got like two lines of dialogue each, so maybe they'll matter later, but they are at the risk of being just as useless. At least Six's habit of hiding in the shadows means they won't have to waste dialogue on him, he's just hiding.
>>558771460>character interaction shouldn't exist because they don't say anything of substanceyou do realize that it's the writers job to give them the dialogues and personality so they can SAY something of substance right?they are not actors on stages ad libbing the whole thing, you are defending the writer for doing less because when they do it they do it badly, that's your entire fucking argument.
>>558771740They are also powerhouses, and that's even with Six being a fraud. Meanwhile nobody could buy the old crew mattering for fights despite the attempts at building them up in the msq.
>THEY NEED TO ADD THE ACTUALLY POPULAR CHARACTERS TO THE MAIN STORY >THEY ONLY ADDED THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE POPULAR THEY SHOULDN'T BE HEREThis is why /gbfg/ is a laughing stock.
>>558772172according to /gbfg/ grub would be popular if it was just harem softcore porn like the rest of thir gacha turd games.
If we got Cog and Hazel in the MSQ this wouldn't be happening, damn you FKHIV you've ruined everything once again
Homoturdflopper going nuts
>>558772172These two statements are not contradictory though. Cygays SHOULD have added the popular characters to the main story earlier, so they could be written into it organically. But now, twenty years after launch, the way they just shoehorned them into the story after virtually NO presence in the MSQ, just feels forced.
>Tolkienraging out of absolutely nowhere Why is Lil Kek like this?
>>558772172Both can be true and arguments from same person. They should have shaken up the main crew many years ago already, but as writers they should have tried to make the introduction and inclusion of those characters much more organic and natural. Having Naru around is nice but she just pops out of nowhere and does nothing. It feels lazy. Nobody wants lazy writing for character they like, and arguably Naru gets so much stuff that not having her appear at all would be preferrable to that, since its not like her fans are desperate like some others who would slurp a meaningles line in a seasonal skit.Watch Sandal get actual meaningful writing tho. Since we know Faa is coming back so they will have real converstations and interactions instead of filler lines.
Careful now, spit too many fax and he'll start seething at Yugioh again too
>>558772172The original main crew was fine. They simply didn't make it work and brain-iddled retards thought it was the characters's fault, instead of the writing. Yes, having Narmaya being in the same role as Rosetta and doing fucking nothing will end up in a situation where people are going to lose interest in Narmaya, just like they did for Rosetta, even though Rosetta was hot and could have had an interesting back story.
>>558772172nobody said they couldn't add popular characters to the story.they just need a plausible reason to be there instead of "oh the timelines merged and you two are the 2 most popular characters for girls and guys"
>I agree with the writers for not adding in character interactions because they will just fumble it
>>558772790What killed Rosetta for me was that they degraded her into being Io's backpack and nothing else. After the Innermost Teachings arc in Nalhegrande, it genuinely felt like Rosetta just existed to be a power up for Io. Doesn't help that Io is a completely nothing character.
>>558772038>you do realize that it's the writers job to give them the dialogues and personality so they can SAY something of substance right?Characters exist to serve the story. There's no inherent worth in "character interactions." A character or their interactions only matter in so far as they are of relevance to the story. I am defending a writer for doing "less" because "more" isn't good. It's not like there weren't character interactions. There were. There was just no interaction where we got Eugen's opinion of Gallanth's parenting skills because it's utterly useless and uninteresting. Keep that sort of thing in Fate episodes or miniskits. An example of this is in the current event too. When Gran goes to meet Lecia and Walfrid, he's alone. He left the rest behind. This is because the character interaction we can get between Walfrid and Gran is more important than what we'd get if Six or Narmaya or Rackam were there. Given how Gran separated from Gallanth, abruptly and brutally, Walfrid reassuring him that Gallanth is smiling in afterlife, happy with his end, is something of worth to Gran and to the story. It's something only Walfrid can provide to only Gran, and is of importance to plot. That's what character interactions should be.Some people enjoy just pointless character interactions, but they're poison to any story. GBF suffers from this poison a lot, it's a big reason why main story, and particularly the main crew, was so bad. No one cared about main crew because they were irrelevant to the story. Io, Eugen, Rosetta, Katalina, none of them had anything to do with anything in main story. If a character can be removed without altering the story, they should be removed and their interactions are worthless. You can remove the main crew from all parts of main story after the beginning island hopping, and besides FIGHTS, nothing changes. If they were replaced by a weapon that could let Gran fight better without dialogue, you'd get a better story.
>>558772790>The original main crew was fineMaybe if you have trouble sleeping. Most people don't need sedatives.
>>558773187>No one cared about main crew because they were irrelevant to the story.Blame our devs for that, not the fans. They put zero effort into MSQ crew>only Rosetta got seasonal alts past 2014
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>>558772574the point of naru being there is that, coming off the tail end of a world ending battle, she's one of the strongest crew members, but not in a godlike primal way. her losing is to provide context and make the stakes seem higher when facing a mortal human enemy. something a 4th grader would probably understand since it's a common shounen trope.
>>558773187>If they were replaced by a weapon that could let Gran fight better without dialogue, you'd get a better story.Unfortunately, we don't even get that. This event is canonically in MSQ2 and Gran is still a basic bitch tier 1 fighter rocking Vorpal Blade and Full Arsenal 1 in the event battle. The fact that they're fighting Astrals and yet these devs/writers cant bother to give him some event skills or an appearance change to indicate the fact that time has passed and his skill has grown is beyond me.
>>558771617Actually very nice. Would be better if she's supported somehow, now it looks like she's floating, since she doesn't have arms. But minor gripe. Good work.
>>558773187>Characters exist to serve the story. There's no inherent worth in "character interactions."no shit, it's the writer's job to give them the worth and a function in the story, you are still backtracking onto your original argument.>There was just no interaction where we got Eugen's opinion of Gallanth's parenting skills because it's utterly useless and uninteresting. there is, and you are using the most disingenuous example possible.Rosetta had been with Gallanth for a long time and robbing the two of a reunion moment is criminal.there has been downtime moments in the estulcia arc and they could have easily resolve the less important, less serious things there before moving on to the part where things get serious.>the restyou are still showing evidence of the writer's incompetence because they can't write interactions that matters.
>>558771617do it with haase
maybe the character interactions are bad because the writers are bad
>>558773796should just let her put her weight on the boobas
>>558771617me and my nugget wife
>>558772172>This is why gbf is a laughing stock.ftfy
we don't NEED character interaction
How does it feel to know that this shit game is only alive because of the success of the horse game?
>>558773945Both character interaction and the characters themselves are bad because the writers are bad, so pretending either side was ever good is just wrong at best and being a contrarian at worst.
>>558773187>>558771460>it's the character's fault that the interactions are dull and the story goes nowhere because it's the character's fault for not saying the right things....and who gave those characters their dialogues?
stop writing walls of garbage text. learn how to be concise. even the 3 line comments here have like 4 words of value. >>558773796it's possible it just requires a strong core. that's all back muscles. it's even tested in school, call the torso flex test. and a common move in figure skating.
>>558774065It's a browser game that they have to make a new enemy sprite every other month. The game has paid for itself for literal centuries at the peak of its popularity, and even nowadays still pays it off well enough.
>>558773834>Rosetta had been with Gallanth for a long time and robbing the two of a reunion moment is criminal.No one gives a shit because Rosetta doesn't matter. Her reunion doesn't matter because Rosetta doesn't matter. There is not a single thing in the story that is there because of or for Rosetta, hence she doesn't matter. The whole idea is that you do something just for the sake of giving your useless, pointless secondary characters something "good" but entirely unrelated to the plot is literal poison to stories. It's the reason why slop like One Piece sucks. Because it'll introduce a dozen characters like pic related, some fucking retards in diapers, give them 10 chapters of "emotional" backstory, 30 chapters of fight against a guy in a speedo, and the fans of the utter slop will call it good because it was "emotional" and "character interactions were good" while the story is moving at the pace of a fucking snail as none of this shit mattered. This shit is the same as Rosetta meeting Gallanth. It doesn't matter at all. Rosetta's existence is worthless, she's the same as this diaper retard and should not even be in the story. Something the writers recognized as early as 2016, when they cut her from the anime main crew.
>>558774065Euphoric
>No one gives a shitBut enough about grub's relevance
>>558774354>No one gives a shit because Rosetta doesn't matter. Her reunion doesn't matter because Rosetta doesn't matterYou are still circling back to your original point.She doesn't matter because the writers are too incompetent to give her a reason to matter to the main plot. >Because it'll introduce a dozen characters like pic relatedyou are being disingenuous once againthe main crew has always has the same handful of characters as opposed to one piece where you get a 100 rando nobodies everytime they moved on to a new arc, get a better argument.>The whole idea is that you do something just for the sake of giving your useless, pointless secondary characters something "good" but entirely unrelated to the plot is literal poison to stories.so why doesn't Gran just travel alone thenwhy don't the characters like Oigen and Io just fuck off once they resolve their personal dramas?why didn't the writers kick them off from the crew once they have no more stories to tell?
>>558774354
>this thread
>>558774303Thanks, that makes fapping to it easier. She's just flexing herself, got it.
>>558774065How does it feel that the horse game exists only because of this shit game?
>>558774303he can only write walls of texts because he has no actual point and just recycles the same broken argument over and over again.
>umaraging
>>558774171Imagine Yaia breast mocking others at the kindergarden
>>558774354you're literally wasting your life arguing on 4chan that everything in a franchise should have meaning.the irony. not everything has to have consequences>>558774732>heno you're all doing it.
>>558774065Feels great! Every time they cheap out on something, just remember we're the reason they don't have as much budget.
blud is pretending to be da impartial third party again huh
