It actually makes me mad that they took a setting which could have gone literally anywhere with all kinds of crazy shit and instead they made Destiny 3 copy paste.

I unironically hope Sony Sneeds and Feeds them into the ground

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Can't wait for there to be threads upon threads on the official sub-reddit when peoples only access to go to the Marathon and Cryo Storage is taken from them by a lone Rook doing the Harlom Shake and a bowie knife for it to then get destroyed on the Rooks extrac because Rooks can't take progression items with them to their vaults.

>>558976923
I actually wouldn't mind if they made Marathon into a PvE/Co-Op/MMO like with Destiny
At least Marathon has more interesting lore and story and asthetics compared to Destiny.
That or akin to The Division

>>558976771
Seems stable. 50k on launch at least.

>>558976925
That might be so but it won't be me bro because there is no way in hell i would pay real money for this game.

If the game was free i wouldn't mind playing Rook exclusively to stab people but there is no way in hell i am paying money to play this mediocre as fuck shit

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>>558976925
Tau Ceti is Rook's world. You're just having a blast on it.

>>558977032
Make the game more solo friendly than D2 and I'm in.

>>558976925
The only reason Rook exists is to ruin other people's days.

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so marathon 1 must have taken place, hence the distress signal in the opening cutscene, but marathon 2 must not have, because the w'rkncacnter hasn't destroyed anything (or the events of 2 don't cause it to be unleashed) as this game takes place 100 years after the first, but the events between the first 2 games must have happened because the phfor destroyed the tau ceti IV colony offscreen, hence why theres nobody there

right?

>>558977594
You are talking about lore relating to a game that no longer exists, if you think the 2 iq writers of this game even bothered to try to understand what you are talking about you have clearly not been paying attention

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What the fuck do you mean silk limit? Why is there a fucking limit on this shit!?

>>558976925
>Yes goy, if you want to get into the actually good parts of the game you have to do le grinding
>Keep grinding goy... i promise it gets fun at some point
>You will learn to love your job

Fuck this game and fuck these devs

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>>558977594
Read this text and tell me if you think the nuMarathon writers have come up with a satisfying answer.
At best it's some Infinity-orthogonal-timeline arranged in whatever arbitrary way excuses them fucking up the details.

>>558977032
This. Dying would still fit in with the whole using a new shell thing. Could add AI runners to switch things up in combat. Game would need redesigning from the ground up and that's never going to happen, all this cool design and lore work for it too probably flop

>>558978376
why did you make his head so big mf

This has mainstream hit written all over it

Hello marathon chuds. Is the game fun? I wanted to try it out with friends but unfortunately bungie ip-banned everyone from post-soviet territory and my vpn is bad. Love from Kazakhstan, I hate women very much.

This has massive shit written all over it

>>558978220
I choose to believe it's a new timeline created after the events of infinity, allows for a fresh take while still being able to reference major lore plotpoints and characters (e.g durandal appearance)

>>558977961
What does silk even mean?

Is there anywhere where I can see my stats? According to steam I've played about 5 hours, but I feel like I've only successfully extracted about 4 times.

How do you cucks feel playing shitty arc raiders? How long before yearly dlc required releases lmao

>>558977594
I could give you some YT videos if you're interested in long form videos talking about it
>>558977712
Most of the original team and writers from Marathon 1/2/3 are part of this one too

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>>558978478
fixed

>>558978804
if it's a video connecting this game to the old ones, sure

I don't need a recap of marathon lore before this game though, just how it connects

>>558978662
>Is the game fun?

No

The game is free and its still too expensive.

>>558977961
>>558978736
Its the currency to buy the battle pass. to us it is useless because everything we do now gets wiped at launch

Silk is literally just a microtransaction currency, like the one we had in destiny 2, even in a new IP the greedy kikes can't help themselves

>>558978776
I actually like the lore and aesthetics of this compared to arc raiders

>>558978874
now it's tiny REEEEEE

>>558977594
not like it matters. the original games had all kinds of parallel timeline bullshit in them.

I could play this game all day

If there's one project nobody in the industry is worried will fail, it's Marathon

>>558977961
>>558979024
>>558978736
so at least you can play a weekend and earn like 1/10 of $10

>>558978220
>runners compete over contracts
OHHHH so that's why you can't help other teams with their quest
What a stupid game to try and give cooperative elements to

i'd play this game for free if it only let me queue as rook

The only thing I like about the game is the music

so this is the last thread right

>>558978220
>>558979593
oh what the fuck, the whole first part of that codex is like
>YEA EVERYONE IS HOSTILE RETARD
>WHY WOULD YOU THINK OTHERWISE?
>ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? THIS IS MARATHON
and then it's like they added that last paragraph
>UM ACTUALY IGNORE WHAT I SAID ABOVE
>PEOPLE ARE LIKE TOTALLY FRIENDLY
>RUNNERS ARE TOTALLY KNOWN TO TEAM UP
>IGNORE WHAT I SAID ABOUT THEM NEVER DOING THAT
>SPIRIT OF COMPETITION AMIRIGHT RUNNER
lol?

>>558976925
Uh anon you know that you can tune into twitch to our recommend content creators who will be attempting the World’s First Completion of the Cryo map. Keep jammin!

>>558979931
I cant wait for this

one of the starting lines in the game tells you to never trust other runners

>>558977032
The hero idea was fucking stupid. You could preoccupy more people hunting down armor pieces for cosmetics and adding more aspirational shit. I mean I’m not going to snub my nose to a piss easy triumph giving a passable palette swap but like the fact how the game was originally gonna be your guys is a huge fucking miss. The people actually defending “it’s easier to discern people from far away with their silhouette” are suckers when most of the characters have thing legs and similar builds

>>558979896
I dunno bro, i want to keep shitposting because its more fun than playing the game

>>558980035
I can’t wait til somebody cheats it or ganks Skarrow’s greasy ass

>>558980147
Everyone is a professioonal bullshitter these days, this game is the result of every single person working on it being an expert at bullshitting but having zero knowledge on how to do their job properly except maybe the engineers that somehow made this game run well

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>>558979896
I'm legitimately excited for the /mg/steamdbg/ threads on proper release. You think it breaks 30,000 once there's a price tag?

>>558978220
>>558980080
FRIENDS LIKE THESE: None of the above negates the opportunity for unlikely alliances. RUNNERS have been known to team up with their rivals for any number of reasons—joint threat, general goodwill, desperation. It doesn't hurt to attempt to find common ground if you're willing to risk an unfortunate outcome. In fact, many RUNNER crews started as rivalries, and many of the best RUNNER stories start with uneasy allies

do EMP nades take out gold shields? should be pretty easy to get the good loot from that if you're running a non-retard premade

>>558980441
It will have 10k players max.
This game is DOA

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>>558980354
>tfw the game will flop to hard to see a glitch cosplayer doing porn

so the Overrun, its worthless right? this thing seems like its built to waste ammo.

>>558980519
>>558980678
Am i the only one that thinks the character designs look like boring shit? The only one that looks interesting is the destroyer and they stole that off the original game.

Genuinely this game looks like shit, plays like shit, the designs are shit, the gunplay is shit, the pve is shit, the pvp is shit, the loot is shit, the movement is shit, the writing is shit, the atmosphere is shit, the environment is shit, the enemies are shit, the animations are shit, the map design is massively shit, the POIs are shit, the ideas are shit, everything is shit, fuck this game

I think my final thought from putting some time into things, there is not enough inspire friendship Bungie magic to excuse that this was a project ages in the making, probably costly and still feels a bit off. I do admit and can see the general vision your characters and the overall experience gets better as you upgrade, Rook was an experience that surprised me all together and I give credits due there despite how samey things can get, he basically is your guy to run to get upgrade diodes and other widgets for the faction trees. I still am not a fan it’s hero characters and I don’t trust Bungie’s balancing, if Triage’s heals don’t get looked at I just feel like we’re in for a very stupid situation. Removing that much risk and basically having a character that innately bubble wraps any downtime recuperation for a fight feels like cheating. You could slow the heals and he’d still be a strong character, I’d have the bots on a more serious timer or cooldown for the ability. I’m a bit cautious how there’s only 1 more actual normal map and hellnightmare map. I understand that’s kind of standard with extracts but yeah the shoe to drop for Bungie paywall mtx hustle is upon us. 6.5/10

>>558980872
>i go to /vg/ to complain about games i dont even play

>>558980438
Somebody in last thread brought up Bungie being Scientologists for hustling money, and I buy it, bullshit salesmen talking above their abilities

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>>558980991
I put 20 hours into this turd of a game what the fuck are you talking about

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>>558980872
it needs some customization

too bad the "customization" in this are going to be paid skins and skin from the battlepass, no mix and matching it looks like, unless they are saving that menu for release /s

>>558954410
I said the same thing.
the reason is because you start to understand the games systems and mechanics better.
for example at first I was frustrated you have such little stamina (heat). then I realized as you level up you get free bonus stamina from upgrade trees.
then I realized how the flow of the game works better. then I learned the gun balance and how to pvp better.
it's very RPGlike and it doesnt tell you that immediately.
you very much need upgrades and certain things like cores, implants to feel good. you can do missions to play towards them. you can ignore most PvE and focus on map events and PvP.

>>558956314
you die in less than a second in literally every multiplayer FPS, retard.

>>558981229
Theres a bungie shill in this thread that thinks people are getting paid to shit on the game (because he gets paid to defend it)

What's so fun about rook?

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>>558981497
>you very much need upgrades and certain things like cores, implants to feel good
>they designed the game to feel bad, on purpose

>>558981671
You get to 1v3 and if you're a murderhobo that's fun stuff...

>>558981497
Other FPS aren't coop and have PvE you fucking retard

>>558981413
Glitch sex

>>558981671
Streamer shell

>>558981732
>wtf tarkov is so boring! all i have is a makarov and a can of soda!

you are in a general for a game with a genre you dont enjoy.

Why is this game so popular in Japan?

the halo 2 energy sword tier melee lunge every robot has is so fucking irritating, especially when ALL of the combat in this game is close quarters.

>>558981989
they don't have PCs in japan, that's why internet cafe's there are so popular

they do have consoles, and japan owns sony
there are no extraction shooters on console
if you like this game, this is your only choice

here, people can go back to tarkov if this is just going to be a shitty knock off

>>558981671
degenerate murderhobo gameplay against the odds. zero risk and feels good when you wipe a squad, plus it's the best way to get into PvP from what i've found unless you're running a premade with friends and purposely rushing to zones you didn't spawn in (which is gay streamer shit)

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>>558980354
>>558980519
this but blackbird when?

What does thief even DO?

>>558981761
its an extraction shooter, retard. ttk in tarkov is even lower if you have good ammo or dome someone. this game is literally the scifi version of tarkov. it leans on it in almost every aspect. even the 3rd person looting animation is straight from tarkov. dumb retard

Fun fact, you can use destroyer's shield to peek around corners safely

>>558982443
nothing that adds to the team

you're best off with a triage/recon/destroyer team

>>558981732
>what is character/gear progression
you start weak and get stronger as you progress in trader levels (access to good cores and implants, blue backpacks, blue shields) and upgrades.

>>558982467
This genre sucks balls then, idk why Bungie tried to appeal to me

I'll be real with you
I'm uninstalling after the reset

>>558981732
>>558982613
that you essentially feed to a streamer or a PVPer so they can use that value

>>558982720
unironically a case of gitgud

>>558982720
>i played a genre knowing full well i dont like it and now im mad and will autistically complain in the general for the next two months

>>558982854
Maybe now I will

>>558982817
I'm a PVPer so I don't have that problem. That's because this is a PVP game.
Get good

>>558982919
wah~ so based! how much of your daily routine online is doing shit purely to spite people you don't know?

>>558981867
>>wtf tarkov is so boring! all i have is a makarov and a can of soda!
That actually sounds like fun, this game isn't even comparable to that
>Wtf Marathon is so boring all i have are these overwatch tier hero skills, rifle, gun, meds, some random bullshit i picked up for free, ammo, etc.

>>558983016
you sound like a discord troll

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of course i love the game! #marathontakeover lol!! why did i stop playing? uh....um......... because i dont wanna grind if its gonna get reset when the game launches! yep thats all there is to it. im totally buying the full release though!
>[2000 SILVER HAS BEEN DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT]

>all of my loot went to vault overflow and then vanished when i tried to sell some of it
what the fuck??

>>558983516
>That actually sounds like fun

you would have said this to any dumb comparison i made, because you dont know how to argue in good faith. you are just spiteful 24/7

>>558982817
I literally wipe trios with rook and just sell everything because i don't even have vault space

>>558983664
you don't load in with anything as Rook moron

people defending the game aren't even playing it

>>558983647
Starting off with literally nothing and building up to having shit is the entire point of Tarkov which is a game that gives you a fucking 1900s rifle 5 bullets and tells you to go scavange

Its nowhere near comparable to this

>>558983720
>Reading comprehension -1

>>558983802
>a fucking 1900s rifle 5 bullets and tells you to go scavange
You haven't played 1.0 Tarkov

i think i've convinced myself to buy the game after 20 hours

>>558984035
I am tired of arguing with you, you are a literally retarded nigger, go hang yourself

lmao

>>558984245
You have no idea what you're even talking about. Tarkov 1.0 gives you three full kits of gear + the tutorial mission rewards.

You're not suffering or savaging in the least. You could just grow up dude.

>>558984348
you have never played Tarkov

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>>558984453

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polymarket betting on whether bungie nerf the ttk for launch

>>558984502
Cool screenshot, who did you steal it from?

>>558984618
Never in good faith...
Always just ragebaiting...
I proved you wildly incorrect and now you're seething. Thank you for the kawaii morning anon... >~<

>>558984685
You have literally never played Tarkov, probably just watched youtube videos on it.

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>>558984536
>when you saw the pie of baja blast, were you blinded by its majesty?
>blinded?
>paralyzed? dumbstruck?
>no!
>yet you held the box upside down and compromised its integrity, desecrated its dewtastic filling!

>>558984756
anon, NTA but many people have played tarkov, it's not some fucking badge of accomplishment. Can you relax with the autism spiral and fuck off?

>>558984756
Who the fuck would ever watch a some fag play a game like this

>>558984756
Most people who played extractions have played Tarkov

>We have arrived at the point the thread is discussing a worse game than this one because shitposting is more fun than talking about the game.

Its over

I'm actually looking for the bets for Marathon and that feels like some money to be made.

>>558985086
Tarkov is objectively a better game if that is what you attempting to argue. Arc is definitely worse though, however I don't see anyone in recent posts talking about that so I'm assuming it's the former. ywnbaw

I literally cannot get into any games whatsoever anymore

>>558985403
Tarkov is a chud game made for people that want to loot literal garbage bins and find used condoms to upgrade their hobo shack in the hole in the ground they call a base

>>558985561
>chud game
Yes, we already know it's better. You don't need to sell it to us even harder

>>558981413
>we got a 3D printed biocybernetic body made by cybersilkworms
>can't customize shit
>only apply a paintjob and that's it
this would honestly be an excellent place for character creation
hell you could sell MTX out of the ass for more options
but nope, we want the Apex audience so we are stuck with heroes

>>558985635
>So glad i looted Vadim's empty vodka bottle off this dumpster, definitely worth investing 30 minutes to get to extract so i can leave with these 200 roubles worth of junk

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Tarkov is a better game, suck my dick

>>558985807
>Seething trannie is seething
kek
YWNBAW

>>558985807
he has run out of real things to say and has gone into a chud fugue.

>>558985680
if they needed cash why wouldn't they make this a PvE game where you customize your runner with paid cosmetics
I hate bungie

>>558986185
it's a well known fact that Bungie hates money and hates their players

how am i supposed to find people to kill as rook?

>>558986332
Do you possess ears?

>>558986332
crouch and listen for gunshots, run to that direction and be a rat. or camp exfils but that's boring and gay

THis game sucks lel

>>558985904
I am not the one playing a game as a woman

>>558986489
its unfortunate

>>558986745
You're forced to play a girl in this game or black, its a Hero Extraction Shooter

>>558986829
Its too late bro, just admit you are gay

I literally can't even find matches anymore to play.

Are you guys finding games?

>>558987214
yeah but i'm queuing rook

>>558987214
are you getting a 'cant find ppl' message or what?

>>558987427
No, my matchmaking is going on and on and on, i had like 10 min waiting for my last match

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>>558986829
You're making it sound like Rook is this

>>558987482
what part of the woild u in?

>>558987778
Dubai

>>558987502
MANY MEN
WISH DEATH UPON ME

>>558987502
that's EXACTLY what he is

blast? having
s'pht? compiled
cheeseburger? drinkable

what's the deal with the UESC troopers attaching wires to you when you get downed

>>558988401
Basically draining your death countdown timer and making it so you can't punitively use a self-res when there's UESC around by cutting a corner.

>>558988401
its funny when Peanut goes
>ITS SUCKING ME
>ITS SSUCKING ME
>I GOT 2 GUYS SUCKING ME

I wish Sphene would give her opinion on Marathon so I know if I should buy it...

is it good?

>>558988601
no its at like 20k players for the FREE demo

>hear footsteps
>throw spiderbomb
>they get downed

the spiderbomb either needs a longer cooldown or it needs to be remote controlled. a set-it-and-forget-it tracking bomb just seems way too powerful, especially for the class that gets radar.

i havent exfilled in the last 10 games

>>558988601
no.

>>558988601
it needs work and not having the full game to chew on means that you cant even let it really grow on you completely cause there is stuff objectively missing that you cant access yet

>>558988807
your own fault for not picking Shadow and jacking off in a bush until someone else does the exfil beacon

>>558988774
It's very easy to spot and shoot pre-emptively unless you're indoors, where it's largely supposed to be as deadly as it.

>Go into solo lobbies
>Hunt down players like a bloodhound
>Wipe the entire lobby
>Extract without looting anything
The adrenaline i feel when i kill people is amazing

>>558988601
no

>>558988984
i have been shadow for the past 10 games

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I'm unironically having a blast. Been playing solo assassin trying to get used to the gameplay.
I don't get why half the posts on this thread are X game is better, Y game is better, and people that are in complete disbelief like "why does anyone play this/like this?"
If those games are that much better, so much more fun for you what the fuck are you doing here trying to convince people that the game they're enjoying isn't actually enjoyable instead of playing those games right now? You actually play those video games don't you anon?
When did gaming become such a disgusting bandwagon that everybody has to play 1 game and if you're enjoying others you're wrong. Back then we had tons of different competing games, sure we still talked shit like mad but we weren't trying to stop people from playing those games like we're getting paid for it.

>>558987794
theres a war going on bro get off marathon

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This game has one of the worst new player onboardings I've seen to date.
Most players are going to try to extract in the tutorial, see all the UESC that spawned, and try to take them all out before getting downed.
Then they get barraged with a bunch of menus and UI that are obtuse to look at.
Then they will load up 1-3 matches, and either die to UESC by getting swarmed or another player killing them in 2 seconds flat.

After all of that the average player will go "this sucks" and be turned off from playing this shit ever again.
>well dude thats good because this filters bad players and scrubs
yeah and "hardcore" players won't buy enough copies for bungie to break even

>>558988601
It has potential to be anything more than what it is. But this is going to be way worse than a D1 or D2 launch.

>>558989068
>disgusting bandwagon that everybody has to play 1 game and if you're enjoying others you're wrong
Everyone became weird monogamers that made a singular videogame their whole personality and identity. It's weird.

I was unironically ready to make this my whole aesthetic but I'm not enjoying it was much as I'd hoped.

PVE mode soon?

What’s the best Shell for borderline solo play? Literally every fill teammate is a retard that doesn’t communicate through voice.

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>>558989068
>>558989225
blame corpos for this shit
basically, everything is a psyop to turn you into a fanatic for the [PRODUCT] and [BRAND]

>>558988551
>peanut
I've never seen a streamer make content for both drooling unemployed teenage retards and for 30-year-old coworkers to laugh at while their on their 15 minute wageslave break. Truly an artist.

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blast: had
rook: chad

>>558989068
>>558989225
that's how it is now with battlepasses and shit, I played 5 different games and purchased all their battlespasses because why not, and got so burned out, I'm just a monogamer now
maybe thats on me for playing 5 games at once, but with dailies and all that other shit, you end up wanting to stick to only a few games anyway, especially if they update frequently enough

this doesn't apply to someone with no job who can play videogames all day

>>558989338
Assassin and Vandal are both good at disengaging and have ways to stay under the radar. Destroyer can work, if you can confidently assert presence indoors. Recon and Triage both have more utility in group play and thus should be mostly played to those strengths. Rook is king. When everything goes to shit, just pick Rook.

>>558979024
>microtransactions
>with this little content
I knew it was going to be the case but they really don't seem to have a big plan here. all the skins will probably look like shit, no marvel rivals coombait here.

>>558988557
/v/ and /vg/ told me it's bad so I won't be buying it and that the game will shutdown a few weeks to a month after release because they don't like without explaining why

>>558989570
>that's how it is now with battlepasses and shit, I played 5 different games and purchased all their battlespasses because why not, and got so burned out, I'm just a monogamer now
Yeah you got a point there, with every game trying to keep you hooked and up those CCU numbers, I guess It's hard to stay invested in multipled games and keep track of all the passes, events and patches and so on.
Maybe the dark patterns were darker than we thought.
https://www.darkpattern.games/

>>558989782
>>558981413
if this is anything to go by
I am not hopeful

>no UESC Black Ops faction
surely we are getting more added after launch, right?
this game will EOL within a year

>>558990191
Not gonna lie, after this disaster i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't release the game at all

>>558989907
also add to the fact, that you can miss out on battlepasses, its only recently that fornite and even marvel rivals actually let you keep and earn rewards from previously purchases passes
it was basically the norm that if you didn't finish a pass you wasted $15 or whatever, which for the average person, "ok I guess I'm not even playing this shit then"

Surely they're adding a safe pocket for the full game right? They wouldn't expect us to risk our keys right?

>>558990616
Streamers say that's a bad idea, so no.

>Do a Co-Op Mission with randoms and roll for some gear. Enemies are tough and require teamwork through focus fire and healing.
>Get lucky and get a Cool Exotic with a couple Gear pieces to finish my set
>Finally finished my set and now I can go take my set that buffs my Ultimate ability to the Extraction Gamemode.
>Fast Travel using the world map to the area and enter with my 2 buddies.
>Kill a world boss and it drops a rare PvP specific Exotic. Wipe 3 separate squads while extracting our loot. Almost wipe ourselves twice.
>Safely leave the Area after waiting out a Bounty on our heads while under high pressure we'll get ganged up on.
Yo this game is really fire. Im playing The Division 2 btw.

>>558990768
Which ones?

>>558990616
They obviously want this to be a hardcore game for hardcore gamers and just hoped it would have millions of people playing it

>>558990785
All of the ones with #MarathonPartner and #Ad in their descriptions

>>558990779
wtf this sounds amazingly fun

>>558990779
>just le grind for 500 year or smth bro

>>558990616
I'd keep the truly important stuff out of being able to be safe pocketed. I'd want it solely for specifically having access to being able to fit some form of rarer mod and weapon part(s) for the ride. The keys being able to be lost to me seems just fine, as the payoffs are pretty substantial.

Is there something up with the infected building? It let me in once and now I can't open the door at all

>>558990616
sorry broski this is only for the most hardcore of playas
you WILL lose your gear, all of it
Marathon is truly the Dark Souls II of extraction shooters

>>558990936
Yea you'd never do that in a game with seasonal resets.

>get annihilated by team I didn’t even see on my fourth run
>get teabagged as i’m crawling away
Yeah, extraction shooters aren’t for me. Hope you have fun with your game bros.

I uninstalled, i am done.

>>558991024
the one in Perimeter with ticks? you can enter through the roof, and you need to restore power to be able to open the doors
someone else probably did it beforehand

would you eat the drinkable cheeseburger?

>>558990616
They wont do that
This >>558990768
and they obviously want you to kill other players for access to the Marathon raid

>>558991206
>Consistently know areas have been combed by teams/solos that never close doors behind them.
I can't seriously be the only guy obsessed with making sure to leave as little clues as possible, right?

>>558991476
it doesn't fucking matter. the match ends once you loot one POI and do your contract and then it's a gamble whether you will get fucked at exfil or not

>>558991158
It's perfect for allowing toxic faggots to indulge themselves. That is the audience bungie courts.

>>558991476
and waste 2 seconds closing a fucking door?
I could die 8 times at any points during that

>>558991476
it's the smart way to play, imo. people play like retards when they think nobody's around, makes you a whole lot safer

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>Hub status?
>>558991302
obviously you cannot eat a drinkable cheeseburger, Only drink it.

These commie writers always get dystopias wrong. A corpo world would never have a food shortage, but a PEOPLE surplus.
They think we are still in the 60´ with all the food insecurity.

PLEASE LOG IN!!!
BOOST THOSE NUMBERS!!!
UP UP UP UP SAVE BUNGIE

>>558991753
the food shortage, as you learn if you read the codex, was purely artificial

>>558991612
If it comes to just knowing whether someone is in a building, as a solo it atleast does to a degree. Hotspots for quests could always be counted on having been visited earlier (or have someone in them) solely from the state of the doors, windows or other interactables. I'd rather trick some dumbfuck to wander on in by thinking they're first for picking, making sure to keep the 'noise' to a minimal, rather then make it completely known the area has been visited already.

>>558991918
>Reading in an extraction shooter

>>558991753
Bungie will probably never add a hub to the game unless it’s to have players show off their cosmetics.

Bungie used to be a titan of the industry...

>>558992127
They still are, did you not play marathon? The reception among the intended audience is stellar.

>>558991918
I read a codex entry poste here and it reads like schizo shit, and not in the good writing way, the bad writing way

>>558992098
>>558991753
Tarkov has no Hub and its doing fine

i feel so bad playing this game. i shotgunned and executed someone in the exfil circle just as they were about to extract. i don't even know why i did that. they were no threat to me when downed, even if they had a self revive they wouldn't have had enough time to use it and i didn't even have enough time to loot the body before the exfil closed. i could have let them exfil with me but i just killed him like a complete nigger. i feel really bad now. the TTK being so low in this game turns everyone into a monster

>>558992083
that's why I fucking hate what this game is
it's clearly full of worldbuilding and details and shit but then it's also 9001% PvP sweatfest who turn graphics to potato mode and disable all sounds
neither side of the gamers are interested in engaging with each other, yet here we are with Marathon

>>558992251
I would quit if that happened to me

>>558992202
people with #ad on their twitch stream titles are not an audience

>>558992227
>Tarkov has no Hub and its doing fine
Tarkov is done by some illiterate Russians, of course is Jank!

Bungie have to make a game BETTER than the competition to succeed , not "just enough".

The game would get a Hub or fail. People want to see the cool world, not read it.

>>558987794
Thy land is besieged fool

>>558992206
>schizo shit, and not in the good writing way
I have unironically read Schizos that post in this shithole of a site that could probably write a fiction novel and become famous

>>558992390
god it was so funny seeing a streamer go
>GOD THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING ASS
>Just kidding chat, it's alright, I'm having fun #ad

>>558992251
Cute soul haver.

>>558992409
If you didn't notice Bungie just wanted to do Tarkov 2.0 with Destiny 3 coat of paint

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>>558992251
I was running solo the other day and saw a guy get downed by an UESC commander, he cried out "oowwww" so in a moment of compassion i went ahead and killed the commander and went to the guy to get him up, only to realise I just started an execution animation by holding E and I couldn't cancel it in time.
I'm sorry bro.
Can we even revive non-teammate runners?

>>558992227
Tarkov wasn’t coming off of something like Destiny 2 that did have social hubs, nor were the Tarkov devs a large studio that had well over 1000 employees working on multiple incubation projects at one point. The Tarkov devs also didn’t have the large amounts of funding that Bungie had throughout their time with Activision and now Sony.

>>558992251
Glory to Arachne, brother!

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yes goyim we made the anticheat from the ground up just trust us ok now pay up

>>558992251
>>558992362
literally happened to me like 5 times
and yes I did uninstall

glad I didn't preorder if the loop is
>load in
>don't die to pvp on the small map with set spawns
>find a PoI
>don't die to pvp while on the small map in the small building
>find loot
>don't die to pvp now while you have loot
>head to exfil
>dont die!!!
>start exfil
>everyone hears you don't die!!!
>stand in the exfil for 10 second
>remember don't die
>1 second left
>oh you died?
>GET FUCKED YOU FUCKING CASUAL THIS IS WHAT EXTRACTION SHOOTERS ARE ABOUT WHATS WRONG WHITE BOY?

>>558992690
Clearly the 1 billion gazillion dollars snoy injected into this gay went into buying anal beads for the developers or something

>>558992671
>Can we even revive non-teammate runners?
lol

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>>558990616
I feel for people in here and elsewhere who don't know Bungies history in listening to their "fans"
The only listen to, unironically in it's fullest connotation, only listen to content creators and especially streamers.
Take Destiny 2 for example, they kept making the end-game content harder and harder because Salt, Datto, Aztecross complained the game and End-Game content (Dungeons and Raids) were to easy for them; so what did Bungie do? They listened to the 1% playerbase, i.e. the content creators and streamers and in return they lost thousands upon thousands of players and the cc/streamers communities chased out a large portion of the casual playerbase because of how sweaty and elitists they were.

Now take what I just and throw another 50 cans of fuel onto the fire and how they listen to feedback with a game known for their sweats and made it as close as possible in difficulty to Tarkov
Sony expects to sell millions btw???

>>558992671
>Can we even revive non-teammate runners?
they forgot that feature, its in the real game I promise, you just have to play until you cant refund

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>queue into a run
>ONI's game tip is literally "Never trust a runner not in your crew they will actually fucking kill you if they think they can"

I think they should really delay this game for another year.

>>558992891
There's no way this will flop

>>558993136
not gonna save it
it has fundamental design problems that can't be addressed without making it a different game

>>558992891
This. Any player that doesn’t know Bungie or only knew Bungie for their work on Halo years ago has no idea that “We’re listening” is an empty statement that the company throws out with regularity.

>>558992831
You’re partly right, it was to retain Bungie employees with pay outs issued over the coming years. It’ll be interesting to see which devs stick around and which cash and leave the studio after Marathon comes out.

>>558993136
I think it needs at least 3, Bungie works very slowly and can never hit deadlines.

>>558993136
the game needs 6 more years of dev at least

If this game doesn't release with at least 20 maps and so much content that it might justify putting up with the bullshit its simply a dead game

>>558993042
completely true btw
KOS with no exceptions

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>>558992720
Kek it's the same shit from Destiny 2, that game is fucking loaded to the brim with cheaters. In fact, 75% of teams from the most recent day 1 raid clears had at least 1 cheater on their team.

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That feel when you successfully manage to not die and extract for the first time since the free weekend started

>>558993537
Now do it 30 more times until you realize you are working towards nothing

>your consciousness is ejected when the shell expires, nothing to worry about, runner
if you have played SOMA you know that this is complete bullshit and CyAc are straight up making shit up and lying

>>558992720
What am I looking at?

I we complain really hard for hub they HAD to add it.

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>>558993537
>>558993604
Now do it 100 more times to even get access to the two "End Game" Maps that require keys to get access and can only be acquired on the map Outpost and or Epic/Purple-tier contracts and or Legendary/Yellow-tier contracts with insane conditions to complete them to then, eventually go to the last two maps to just die three minutes in from a Rook Crip Walking with a butter knife after sniffing a two pound bag of cocaine
>Repeat

>>558993852
Tarkov has no hub

>>558993746
yea in one of the trailers it has the AI giving Glitch a test and it showed her a polaroid and she was like "Thats my mom obviously retarded robot"
and then the AI was like
>and do you recognize her
and she's all confused and says "no"
and the AI goes
>that's you

so clearly they are losing pieces of their humanity from all these runs

Getting a good run as Rook and then swapping to a normal shell with the loot I bagged has helped me not give a shit about losing said loot immediately due to faggy teammates. I'm probably not going to buy the game, though.

>>558993801
They lied and said that in engine there's a "fog of war" that doesn't display information to your client about players you can't see. The red lines are pointing to players you can see with cheats. It's going to be a fucking shit show, basically. You'll need to play on console with crossplay off if you want a somewhat fair experience, but you'll still have to deal with Chronus and Xim users there.

>>558992815
I am noticing that the game incentivizes a lot of pvp in close quarters. I've never once seen a player I was able to just avoid unless he walked into a building as I walked out.

>>558993362
Yep, every face to face encounter I've had with a player has been KoS and the few times we somehow we're rotating around each other in a compound I knew if they saw me they'd shoot

how in the world did they think that 3 maps plus some special map would be enough? we need like 20 as the other guy said

>>558993940
>Rook Crip Walking with a butter knife after sniffing a two pound bag of cocaine
This was literally me half an hour ago, i unironically wiped TWO trios in a single match after getting my hit of adrenaline by butchering a poor solitary dude i found running around

>>558993852
if you're the guy who keeps posting about it, they don't read 4chan my dude, you'll have to become an official forum warrior

>>558993940
>Rook Crip Walking with a butter knife after sniffing a two pound bag of cocaine
That's me. Only with the V11 most of the time.

>>558993746
>>your consciousness is ejected when the shell expires, nothing to worry about, runner
If that true, why dont they promise a recompense? like a virtual body and a hub? In the lore it would be always a new "soul" experience the recompense 1 time for the first time until they start the run, and never come back, then the next soul "enter your hub" and prepare the next run.

Like how helldivers divers are "the same" reinforcement, but not really.

>>558994115
No, he'll have to become a popular streamer and a marathon partner.

>>558993136
you can delay the game for 20 years, its flawed at its core
you can't fix this short of just remaking the fucking game from scratch again

Casuals are dropping like flies.
If all that remains are tryhard and sweats, the game will simply die.

>>558994115
There is at least an Indian and or Tranny that shills here.
He can tell Bungie on my behalf.

>>558993940
>>558994104
>>558994135
I will now always think of Rook players as that Cuban from Smiling Friends screaming get outta my head while Crip Walking with a knife and just mass killing entire maps
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o9NQO6dEF64

The only shitty thing about Rook is that you won't find full squads if you get into a match with 10 minutes left. I only find them when I get into matches with at least 15 minutes left, it's annoying.

Are the faction levels and upgrades getting reset seasonally, or just your vault and shit? It takes forever grinding the same 4 repeatable bounties and collecting spinmetal to actually start unlocking things.

>seeing posts on twitter vaugeposting about the lore writing being too clinical or out of touch sounding and soft accusing bungie of using AI dialogue
It must be such a hell being a midwit.

>>558994482
>It takes forever grinding the same 4 repeatable bounties
Im sure they will add more missions on release.

>>558994565
Won't make it any more fun to collect salvage for upgrades.

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>>558994286
This is what I'm talking about, right here, I've played so many games where people, I assume casual and normies go in, die instantly, get upset because they don't understand how or why they died and quit the game completely before understanding what an extraction shooter is yet Sony/Bungie dropped 400mil-ish into the production of this game and gave it an extra year to cook; what I'm getting at is that the numbers we're seeing in the Slam would be fine if it was a small team to AA Development Team and didn't spend so much time and money ONTOP OF delaying the only other game Bungie has for itself by three months, virtually killing Destiny 2

>>558994075
>how in the world did they think that 3 maps plus some special map would be enough? we need like 20 as the other guy said
I am the other guy

I think its a combination of hubris and imcompetence, I genuinely believe they haven't even managed to make a single other map, outpost is probably 90% complete and will release in a buggy state on launch.

The marathon is almost certainly at like 40% and they intend to finish it after release. This entire game was built as vaporware, in fact i am almost 900% convinced that the two maps we got were probably put together in the last 6 months by some small group of interns or something like that, it FEELS rushed, it feels like something you'd put together in a last minute to show to your boss

>>558994286
Most extraction shooters are free or first adopter like tarkov. I can't see marathon carving out a niche. It has good lore and art, but it doesn't actually lean on it like a cinematic game and the maps have about as much story going on as a cod multiplayer game.

>>558994009
well, yeah
they are a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy(times n)
my point is, there is no "consciousness ejection" - that's just the shell rapidly dumping the memory into CyAc's database before the link breaks, and the process isn't always perfect hence the mentioned memory loss until there is nothing but a corpo golem left

>>558994482
Both are reset seasonally

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Why can't my teammates fucking PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING

>>558994518
It reads as something written by AI fr

>>558994465
I think it's mostly the good thing about Rook as the game states of a match around 10 minutes left and 15 minutes are vastly different. The former will almost be guaranteed to have loot that teams can't fit into their backpacks and the latter will always have more squads you can pick off or mug in the case you want their stuff.

>>558994786
Have you considered it's written that way because 100% of the interactions you have are with AI entities?

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>Marateens just now discovering that Bungie uses AI
lol

>>558994921
Arachne's agent isn't an AI but a fellow ROOOONER

Saw someone compared ES games to a Roguelike, is it comparable in the broad sense?

>>558994631
What the fuck did they even do with all the D2 resources? I got to see the dev team downsized in real time and all they have to show for it is the most barebones extraction shooter on the market

>>558992251
Legitimately the first actual run i did in this game, I shot someone in the back in their own exfil circle while they were fighting AI, then 3 seconds away from exfil, I unloaded fully into them while they were down killing them.
I didn't get time to even loot them.
You play how you want. There are no rules on how you can treat other players.

>>558993968
Tarkov is Shitty INDIE game
Bungie is better at do games, they would add a hub, I trust them.

>>558994921
Cortana is bitchy and cute at times and is also an AI
What if ONI have some personality too? that would be cool.

>>558995084
The absolutely stellar gunplay and tense gameplay?

>>558995084
you have to understand that the superyacht is absolutely critical to the game development process

>>558995130
>I trust them.
What's the last Bungie game you played?

I used to think the CEO of the company that released Mindseye was a schizo when he talked about a coordinated campaign against his game. But I’ve been sitting in those threads and in the /v threads for three days now, and I’m starting to see that the guy might actually be right. What’s happening there looks like a deliberate, paid campaign aimed at demoralizing people and downplaying the game’s merits. Considering the rat-like nature of Arc Raiders and its company, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the ones who commissioned it.

>>558995179
Halo 1, 2 and 3
I like Halo 1 and 2 more. but they were all good.

>>558995130
I think a lot of the AI will sound stilted and clinical pre-rampancy. It makes me wonder if our faction reps will actually go through the stages over the course of the game. Like surely Durandal before acquiring his god complex was just as stilted sounding.

>>558995326
That explains it. You're in for a rude awakening, the Bungie you knew is long gone.

>>558995141
>Stellar gunplay
Not sure if you're being ironic but not even Destiny is able to coast on this excuse alone anymore

>>558995227
you can play the game yourself, for free even at the moment
you can make your own conclusions. mine are almost all negative

>>558995227
Nobody even cared about Mindseye, it was just a buggy mess that needed God mode on to demo anything right before launch.

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>>558995227
Look! an Israeli Mossad Agent working for Bungie in the /mg/ General everyone!

TTK faster than I'd nut feeling that Vandussy

>>558995380
I've accepted the game is not for me as an old man and my betters say the gunplay is amazing.

I think the story premise is interesting, but the problem is that it can only ever exist as a premise. You can't really do anything revolving around meaningful story progression because it would get in the way of Rooning

Why couldn't they just make a normal game with the same aesthetics and story.
Multiplayerslop if they want, just no retarded pvpve shit...

>>558995227
>Accusing everyone else of being a shill
>When Bungie literally paid every single streamer to play their slop yesterday and spent a fuckton of money on marketing
lmao

>>558995380
It's not like the issue is the gunplay being shit, it's more like the focus has shifted away from the gunplay into all sorts of circus acts involving lightsabers, swords and a million other elements of gameplay that have nothing to do with shooting guns.

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>>558995227
bro embark is ex-EA
they're literally former DICE
the studio head is the former vice president of EA
do you think people would go bat for fucking ex-EA vice president Patrick Söderlund

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>>558995326
I don't know if it's intentional or not but the Halo series and to a lesser extent the Destiny series had a large campaign, story, and full PvE content along with PvP
Instead of going that same route we just have the most bare bones PvP game that's a subgenre of the PvP genre
The target audience for this game don't care about story, lore, graphics, music, or visual design and turn all of the settings down as low as possible to get as high of a framerate as possible and little to none of them can read so the entire Codex is pointless unless all of it had audio files instead of a select few related to the story related contracts and even then PvPers cant sit still long enough to listen to a audio recording to boot

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>>558993042
>>558994057
>killing others is easy
>killing others gives you their loot
>killing others stops them from potentially killing you
>killing and getting killed is extremely easy with low ttk
>you will never see these people again
>you will never need anything from them
>the game doesnt punish you for doing so
>other players cannot punish you for doing so
>there is no common goal non-teamed runners can work toward to justify not being KOS
>you can only benefit from killing another
there is no incentive not to kill another player. this is just the reality of the game, i dont know why they are even pretending like this design does anything but funnel you into KOS. The codex having little lore bits about some runner crews even forming from rivalries etc feels like its from a totally different game
friendly behavior, even temporarily, is basically a total anomaly and up to the random whims of someone who has nothing to lose becase they have nothing or are flush with cash and is completely secure with not killing or doesnt see it as part of their primary objective in their current play session
all of these together are NOT common of the target audience of this game, which massively reduces interesting possible variations on the game session.
ive heard it said that the original concept for this game was going to be more like an mmo where those things would make sense, you could have an interplay of teamups and betrayals and social consequences and rewards but everything being constrained to individual instances where only that instance's play matters limits that severely

Recon is the best so far.
>wallhacks, shit on assassinfags and entire teams with your alt
>little robot fucks people up and makes them easy to pick off

>>558995558
Yeah, the point is that gunplay alone stopped being a crutch for Bungie 4+ years ago. The rest of Destiny and the rest of Marathon are bad