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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9114 - Worst ship ever edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>TailsTube #14 - Bonus Lap
https://youtu.be/I6rrciMAM3U

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - 04 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 11 March 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 13 May 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous zone: >>559031561
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>>559057073
Nobody thought of this ship
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>>559057387
deer love
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K***ht of the wind!
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>>559057073
they all want the blue d
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>>559057632
Me, lusting after Sally.
And bullying Belle.
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Taking Midnonic requests
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wanna see me stuff my cheeks full of nut?
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>>559057387
>all that empty space
whiteboards are dying....
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>>559057713
Midna and Werehog
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Cream the Rabbit.
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Douge
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>>559057713
sonic carrying midna bridal style like in that one twilight princess cutscene where it gets pretty shiptease-y
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I pray that people like bobbutterbutt gain no real influence. It’s bad enough we got people in the real world like her that either take up power or leave despair before their demise. They say they’re right, but you know things differently. They stick to their beliefs, and it’s not a matter of differing opinions, it’s genuine off-the-cuff brainwaves. You don’t need a bad childhood to be a psychopath. Just look at some of the most infamous serial killers in history. Anyway, the point I’m trying to make is, don’t let others steer you in the wrong direction, because they will try. You can give them as much pity as you want but deep down they can’t feel the same, let alone empathy. They latch on to anyone they can.
To keep it relevant to /vg/ like a fag, I’ll throw out a GTA: SA quote: “People say they have love for you, but won’t say a word. Too damn scared.” But I guess the problem runs deeper than that. They don’t know what love is, and that’s why the entertainment industry is filled with problems like that not excluding the Sonic franchise. Then they shift the blame on you.
Basically, you just get a bunch of shit you didn’t ask for. I don’t need this. I’m not even supposed to be here today.
https://youtu.be/eOx5ahjzpjU?si=SQM5QLsgvXAd2dhM
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EGG
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>>559057868
Cute N Canon!
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>>559057785
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>>559057913
What cutscene was it?
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>>559057981
I wish there were more of these two.
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>>559057632
Why is Amy here? She's like the second youngest in this picture.
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>>559057387
MarioGODS
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Just let Sonic be 19 and Amy 17. Easy. Fits their characters better.
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>>559058587
idk i just remember it happening
later in the game, obviously, once she's done being all tsuntsun with link
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>>559057387
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>>559058592
Same.
I wish more people would draw them.
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>>559059145
Who could reasonably stop them?
Who would reasonably stop them?
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>>559057387
>>559059145
Poor kit
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>>559059128
Was it human or wolf form? Like explain what you remember in the cutscene.
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>>559059378
it's human link
in castle town or in/before the last dungeon
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Night
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>>559059145
>>559059259
the tangle shotacon agenda...
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Mobussy
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>>558293117
>Vector and Wave having sexual tension
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>>559060414
Really nice, anon.
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>sonic artist I folow on Xitter that never ever showed signs of being political at all starts retweeting tweets about the Iran x Jew war
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I'm on phone, repost the whiteboard, you posted it on an ending thread
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>>559060584
thanks, feels good to clear the queue, didn't mean for it to take so long
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>>559059541
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>>559059259
I love the consistent Mina. Literally the best oc character, because she's the cutest.
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Why is this thread so inactive?
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>>559061486
it be like that sometimes
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>>559061486
A chunk of the thread is people samefagging at themselves and said people are probably asleep right now
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>>559061486
I have nothing to say.
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>>559061486
whatdyawant?? HUH???? whatdyawant???? ya think am a clown who has to entertain you 48/7????
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Manic is bipolar.
Who’s with me?
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how will this effect crazy frog's legacy?
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>>559061734
perhaps
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>>559061734
His name is a bipolar episode so I wouldn’t be surprised
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How would you fix Tangle and Whisper?
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>>559061921
I would make whisper happy, and I would make tangle a bit more sensitive.
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>>559061921
Give them more action scenes
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>>559061486
It's almost like these threads have only been active because a few people with way too much time in their hand been allowed to hijack them. That and we been losing legit posters but that's not a discussion for now.
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If you didn’t have to work today post Sonic from the anime.
If you did have to work today post Sonic from OVA.
If you don’t have a job post Sonic from Sonic Prime.
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>>559062103
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Shadow is my husband. Or I wish he were. The thought of comforting him in some way makes me particularly giddy. I want to make him feel good, but it also makes me feel selfish at the same time, because it's what I want. I don't think Shadow would want it. I'm a very selfish person. I want to rub his ear between my fingers. I want to blow on his ear until it twitches. I want to poke his nose. I want to kiss him right where the stripe ends on his fivehead. I want to hold his ungloved hand. I want to touch his fluffy chest obsessively. I want to hold him close to me like he's a small heated body pillow. I want to give him peaceful sleep and nice dreams of happiness, even if the happiness is not real. I want to take care of him until I can't. I don't care about myself or my safety, but I care about him and his safety. It is wrong that literal perfection hates itself because the world can't stop kicking him down. My imperfections bother me because Shadow deserves perfection, or whatever qualifies as perfection in his eyes. Shadow deserves Maria. He deserves a happy future. He will not get one, but it is what he deserves.
I think part of the reason I became attached is because the emotions he feels often mirror my own. On some level it's comforting, but another larger part of me feels disgusted because it makes me think I am muddying him with myself. I'd like my thoughts to be quiet for once like a void so they do not influence my perception of him. If I drug myself heavily I can focus on him better. It removes my desire and ability to talk to others, that's when I feel happiness.
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>>559062103
I have work today. will post from SatAM
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Tell me how you feel about Shadria
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Have you been writing, anon?
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>>559062220
Oh yeah I forgot it’s Monday for most of you guys. I guess if you had to work YESTERDAY post Sonic from Sonic X
And if you didn’t have to work YESTERDAY post Sonic from OVA
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Sonic has to sniff his own ass to curl into a ball
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>>559061024
sweet
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>>559062391
We've never seen him use the bathroom, ew.
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>>559062139
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>>559061921
Tangle is fine for the most part, for Whisper she's not allowed to cry or experience PTSD for 30 issues minimum
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>>559061921
Stop the lesbian baiting and let them spend time on their own individually
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>>559062187
Google wants you to call 988
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Guysss we found lore on Scarcos
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>>559062339
think I might try to for an hour or so tonight, or at the very least make an outline of a few different ideas
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>>559062884
Since when does Scarcos has a full username
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>>559062884
kek
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Bump the deer
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>>559063315
yeah
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>>559063315
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>>559063483
The sheer enshittification of C.AI needs to be studied.
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>>559062762
It's okay, I won't kill myself. I'm just trying to make the thoughts stop
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>>559057387
What type of fucking moron post the whiteboard ar post 750? You are some kind of special breed or something?
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>>559062926
That's a good idea.
It's always good to make some preparation for new ideas.

Right now, I'm doing some research for something I'm writing while fixing some past stuff I already have written.
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>>559063595
But why not do it? The pain would finally stop, you'd be at peace, no more suffering, no more loss, just bliss. No one would shed a tear for you, so you have nothing left to lose
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>>559062187
Shadow the Hedgehog is a character created by the Japanese game developers Takashi Iizuka, Shiro Maekawa, and Kazuyuki Hoshino. He is a major character in Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog franchise. Shadow is an anthropomorphic black hedgehog created by Professor Gerald Robotnik, the grandfather of Doctor Eggman. Shadow shares design traits and attributes with Sonic the Hedgehog
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Anyways, reposting the whiteboard so anons don't miss it like I did
Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19622
PSD archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
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Rumble devs really expect you to play even with full rings to reach lvl 20 uh?
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Sheep wife
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>>559064323
Cute Eggman robot
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>>559064323
kissing lanolin's breasts
marrying lanolin's breasts
sex with lanolin's breasts
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https://litter.catbox.moe/gjg3suicfzc1ope3.mp4
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>>559064643
Was he always this big?
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>>559064785
Sometimes even bigger
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>>559062014
>been losing legit posters
Why?
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>>559063925
Sorry I'm not a cockchopper, I don't do that type of thing
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>>559065236
We always lose posters months after a new game is released and years after a main game is released. We will keep losing them until the new trailer drops
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>>559065236
maybe it's because you guys harass anyone who has passion
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>>559064643
I'm pretty sure Sally would have gone for the mouth
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>>559064643
Preserving temporary litter catbox link
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>>559063992
:) good post
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>>559065320
Yeah, that makes sense, I noticed too. I thought there was some special reason

>>559065450
I don't
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>>559064643
Can you post the Maria one again or a different Maria one if you're here?
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>>559064643
>>559065523
Oh, I actually like team attacks between characters who have never had a reason to interact.
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>>559065450
passion as in "im going to complain about the comics every day" or
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>>559065450
Like?
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>>559061921
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>>559065646
https://litter.catbox.moe/mwv4nnboo15capah.mp4
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>>559062734
At this point, I'm fairly certain EvanIan (or whoever at IDW's ghost-writing for the pair after Evan admitted she doesn't even write her own shit) have no idea how either Tangle or Whisper are meant to be like alone - and obviously have no interest, because to do would be to admit the filthy chuds were right.
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>>559065897
Whisper just kind of sits there and grimaces while the other non-tangle characters treat her like a toddler whenever Tangle isn't around
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>>559065871
Preserving temporary litter catbox link
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>>559065871
The game that shall make Maekawa proud
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>>559065897
>(or whoever at IDW's ghost-writing for the pair after Evan admitted she doesn't even write her own shit)
I swear, every time Evan talks about what's happening behind the scenes, the more unorganized and half-assed production sounds.
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>>559065897
Right on. There's been a lot of hostility toward the IDW comics lately on Twitter. Let it continue. The chuds are advancing
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>>559065897
>Evan admitted she doesn't even write her own shit
lol what
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>>559066107
they're outright ratioing the comic staff almost every time now
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>>559066123
>>559065897
>IDW's ghost-writing for the pair after Evan admitted she doesn't even write her own shit
>lol what
Source (and screenshot): https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/809475850057744384/hi-evan-i-noticed-you-and-ian-were-both-credited
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Making Grok write fanfics of Sonic characters being drugged and then acting completely fucking batshit ooc
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>>559064185
Two frame gif of Amy humping the floor
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>>559066136
It's going to continue until they and Sega can't ignore it anymore. Just let the comic staff keep on making fools of themselves on Twitter. Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake
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>>559066207
>Evan is a literal paid "ideas guy"
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>Erazor catches herpes from a filthy rat
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>>559066207
This just means one of her jobs is coordinating the team. You idiot
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guess one of them woke up
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>>559066207
Too many cooks in the kitchen.
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>>559066320
And her ideas aren't even good. She only knows how to write therapy circles and alphabet characters
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>>559066390
Once saw a girl this skinny struggle to prop herself up against her own skeleton
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>>559066207
No wonder Evan said she doesn't plan her story arcs if she relies on other people to actualize anything.
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>>559066285
I will do it if you post "I love Espioyume"
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>>559066390
Nobody makes jokes about the fact that she's saying IT'S NO USE in this panel
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>>559066107
holy GAYS
IDW propaganda always win in the end
Sonic is just another victim like TMNT and TRANSformers
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>>559066518
Ew, clingy
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>>559066518
Did Alota leave you?
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>>559065523
>>559066081
Chroniclesfag truly is the best thing to come out of /sthg/ in the 2020s.
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>>559066693
Add it to the list of victims but not all hope is lost. Sonic can be retaken. The pendulum is swinging
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Okay, which one of you fuckers is responsible for this?
https://youtu.be/0UgD-zOuA6k?si=JrgnQDji_9Fcmq3p
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>>559067129
swlu is our only hope ....
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>>559067169
>SWLU
QRD?
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>>559066953
>>559066984
Showing a little love is hard for you?
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MIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>559067276
Yes. I was hurt when I was little.
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>>559065523
That is probably worse than rape to Erazor
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>>559066693
We won the cultural war, you lost
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>>559067371
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>>559067371
>Post random pic
>"Wez won da culture warzs!"

Cuba is so fucked.
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This post has aged devastatingly well.
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>>559067493
>>559067413
You lost
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>>559067567
>Teams up exclusively with Piece of Crap characters
Yeah, that's what murdered the Detective Pikachu franchise.
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>>559067625
>These are the kinds of people that will tell you shadria is bad.
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>>559067689
No, pedos usually like Shadria.
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Either I suck or the level 10 CPU's cheat.
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>>559067689
>Shadriafaggot desperately trying to bring his pedophilia into the thread
Touch grass
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>>559067625
I look at this and I think to myself "I am so grateful I'm not a Sonadow fujo". Picrel turns my stomach
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Honestly curious.
What happens if twitter manages to actually bully all the IDW staff away?
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>>559067567
i mean, as long as there isn't an npc in the middle of green hill zone, stopping me from going through a loop unless i sign his gay Palestine petition, i can ignore all the other shit and enjoy a good game.
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>>559067769
Hey we want babies but not all of us like trannynic
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Gay chickens.
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>>559064643
I always wanted to ask, what game are you basing off the combat? From what I remember you were doing a bravely default thing with the barriers system?
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>>559067773
They get replaced? Then we see if the replacements are good or not. I don't expect there are many clamoring to work on the franchise in an official capacity.
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Paps is answering (you)r questions right now on Xitter
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>>559067773
Many yaoi/yuri slop-gobbling leftoids on Twitter run away with the IDW staff. Sonic heals as a franchise and reaches its full potential.
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>>559067773
we go back to dooming about gameplay, and eyelid animations or whatever
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>>559067237
'sonic would love us'. its a xitter group full of sonic fans who dont like woke
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>>559067845
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Why did crossworlds flopped while TSR sold really well?
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>>559067625
>cut off breasts but have kid anyway
reality:
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>>559067838
Sorry Sonadowfujo. Dated M-Preg is being phased out for the more progressive wholesome chungus friendly Transmasc Poonernic. Enjoy!
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>>559067838
Sonadow is the result of leftoid feminists projecting their fetish for male homosexuality onto Sonic and Shadow and turning Sonic into a submissive twink and Shadow into his domineering babysitter and tard wrangler because in spite of the fujos hating natural femininity, they still possess inborn female instincts that incline to heterosexuality. This explains why they make Sonic into the girl in the Sonadow dynamic and this also implies that the fujos are self-inserting as Sonic
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Krack, the kind of ending you're suggesting put the digimon fandom in a 25 year shipping war
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>>559067862
Yes a barrier can be expended for an extra turn, but having no barriers halves your defenses and you will lose a barrier if you're struck with a move the character is weak to. Some moves will always destroy barriers. It's borrowed from both Bravely Default and Sonic the Fighters. Character elemental relationships are specific to each character and the number of barriers is too. Most have five.
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>>559067773
Anyone working on a comic or movie or game should be contractually obligated to avoid xitter and any other social media sites.
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>>559068229
>read post on twitter
>reply to it on 4chan while quoting nobody
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imagine giving a shit about krack when """she""" defended a real pedophile to own da libs
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>>559068365
you will never be a woman violet
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>>559067951
I see. I already knew what that was. That group is on the rise and the activists and tourists in the fandom are panicking
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>>559068365
You smell like fear.
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>>559068281
I think one of the major reasons anyone takes a comic artist job is for a following on social media to make money on the side.
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>>559068234
Huh, I was going to ask if you played octopath traveler since the BP system sounded familiar. In that game you also got these special points that you could use to power up your specials or attack mutliple times. I also kind of want to know as a head start to speedrun your game and find out everything lol.
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>>559068234
Tell me you have a few joke characters. I wanna flex to /sthg/ about killing the final boss with, I dunno, Tommy Turtle.
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>>559068069
I always wondered how come there is more FtM detrans than MtF detrans?
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Danny wants Megani to be a rival to both Rouge and the Chaotix.
Feels a bit self indulgent. It feels like he's desperate to leave his own mark on this franchise after successful characters like Tangle, Whisper, Lanolin, Surge, and Kit were made.
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>>559068551
foids are more susceptible to social contagion
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>>559068551
>FtM detrans
Fake dick removal
>MtF detrans
No dick ever again
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>>559068551
Because a good amount MtF are autogynephilic. It's glorified sexual fetishization and gaslighting than an actual delusion.
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>>559068492
I'm aware of how Octopath did it, but I haven't played it myself.
>>559068503
A handful of the characters who canonically don't fight have some gimmicky skills and one endgame character who isn't known for violence is particularly strong. .
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>>559068580
Daniel Barnes is the only person in IDW I actually dislike. He feels like a representation of the most annoying posters in Sonic Twitter.
I have a lot more respect for Ian, Evan, ABT, and others than him as professionals.
I hope he never writes for the official games his personality is too obnoxious.
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*ahem*
>Sonamy
>Shadria
>Silvaze
>Tailsream
>Whispangle
>knuxouge
Thank you
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>>559068551
Underlying motivations for trooning.
It's a little known fact, but before 2000, almost every troon going in to clinics was male, usually middle-aged. Females were outnumbered like 1 to 5 or something.
Guess what the group transitioning most recently is?
Teenage girls.
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>>559068580
>Be Knuckles
>Lose your rivalry to Sonic to Shadow
>Lose your rivalry to Rouge to an OC
I can forgive Surge becoming Blaze's rival if that happens as Blaze hasn't been positioned as a rival for sonic in literal decades and she could use a rival to improve her character and relevance.
But I can't forgive this cucking of Knuckles. He doesn't have much already as it stands. Isn't it enough for her a be a rival to chaotix why does she need to infringe on Knuckles' territory?
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>>559062884
How the fuck did AI get dirt on me?
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Just violently barfed several times. I still feel the burn of stomach acid. It reminds me of looking at IDW.
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>>559068842
he'll continue to sit on his cuck island like everyone wanted him too 10-15 years ago
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Knuckles is good. Fuck you.
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>>559068069
I really really hate Jews anons.
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Anyone else occasionally get emotionally overwhelmed by some Sonic fanfiction and you need to stop for a few minutes before you can keep reading
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>>559068580
>>559068731
Of all things to hate Barnes, I don't think wanting to add new characters is a bad idea
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>>559069131
No.
>>559068842
>rivalry with Rouge
What? She flirted with him and wants his emerald. That's not a rivalry.
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>>559069225
Sega said they made Rouge as a rival to Knuckles
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>>559069124
Oy Vey!
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>>559068717
So is everyone playable on the over world with specific dialogue and gameplay transitions? That sounds like a lot to do.
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>>559068770
>Silvaze
This ship makes me sad and upset because it actively hurts Blaze as a character.
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>>559069223
yeah, but why does the new character have to be a woman. i'm tired of female ocs.
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>>559068731
>I have a lot more respect for Ian, Evan, ABT, and others than him as professionals.
I feel the exact opposite.
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still waiting for that tangle folder
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>created rouge to be shadow but with knuckles
>they barely interact these days
lmao
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>>559069339
They also made Shadow to die, and he survived. They clearly changed their mind since they never did anything rival related.
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>>559069542
no they always kept it ambiguous retard
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>>559069418
I think he made her as an answer to the lack of female full villains.
>No sympathetic personality
>No sad backstory
>Just mystery
>Just a trouble maker
Eh... Feels like he's been listening too much to the people who claim that they want 2 dimensional villains. Might be OK, might be boring after a while.
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>>559069651
>I want a rival to several main characters that
>have no depth, and no purpose but to cause trouble
So just a villain for Rouge and the Chaotix to beat every time? Even Jessie, James and Meowoth in Team Rocket had depth to their characters which is what helped make them so likable.
I hope danny gets what he wants if only to remind people that antagonists with some nuance are a good thing.
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>>559068842
We need to accept that Knuckles is largely irrelevant to this series
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>>559069841
And thats entirely the "fans" fault cus they keep getting mad when he does anything other than leave that stupid island and emerald.
Ian was right.
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>>559069356
Only five of the characters have transitions and that is only if they are in the middle of something. Only characters that can be used in battle are playable. So you can play as Chris or Cream but you can't play as Vanilla or Grandpa Chuck. Most of the characters do not have unique NPC responses either. I tried to at least get a unique response for characters that are relevant to each other and then some though.
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I can't help but sometimes feel some of the people on IDW come here to shit on Barnes. While he has his problems, some of the complaints on here sound weirdly petty compared to the other retards on the comic who get shit on. Also, Barnes doesn't really seem like he's part of the clique even though they all share the same society values.
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>>559070184
>society values.
What?
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>>559070184
sounds pretty likely, easy for anyone to come here and spew their bullshit since we're all anonymous
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>>559069810
>I hope danny gets what he wants if only to remind people that antagonists with some nuance are a good thing.
In IDW, "nuance" just means the villain is just misunderstood and cries (Surge) or the villain just bluntly states their entire mindset (anything Ian writes).
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>>559070184
Barnes isn't an archie alumni and he hasn't written for the main OCs
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>>559070218
The political values that that makes Krack seethe.
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>>559070327
And Surge is the most popular of the OC's. If she was just a petty meaningless villain with no depth she wouldn't be popular.
Hell, Kit is evil as fuck and he has depth.
Shadow would have never become popular without depth either.
Sonic has depth
Eggman has depth
Rouge has depth
Shadow has depth
Amy has depth
Surge has depth
Kit has depth
Tails has depth
Lanolin has depth
You know what official sonic characters don't have depth?
Rough and Tumble and they're irrelevant as fuck.
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>>559070459
>Rough and Tumble
They are an example of a character thats evil for the love of the game and with no tragic backstory, same with clutch and they're all completely irrelevent characters.
People say they want villains with no depth but then they forget about them immediatly.
Starline was evil as fuck, arguably more evil than Eggman and he had a lot of depth. Which is why people love him and want him back.
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>>559070395
He also indirectly shit on Evan Stanley when she tried to shift the blame on SEGA that time and got cucked out of it by him. I wouldn't be shocked if that earned him some animosity.
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>>559070459
>>559070549
Based. Fake fans be like
>"I DON'T WANT MY SONIC CHARACTERS TO HAVE DEPTH I JUST WANT THEM TO BE LIKE MY SATURDAY MORNING CARTOONS"
If you feel that way you're not a real sonic character, every character has had depth ever since Sonic Adventure its part of the franchise and what sets it a part from Mario. Sonic characters are actual characters.
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>>559069431
I'm happy her curved body is canon (kinda)
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>>559070601
>animosity
I mean he is unlikable as fuck. And now Evan officially works for Sega and is drawing and writing for official Sonic projects while Daniel is stuck in comic purgatory.
Honestly he deserves it. ABT is next in line to be officially hired for more Sega projects.
The core western Sega group is
>Tyson Hesse
>Ian Flynn
>ABT
>Evan Stanley
If Daniel Barnes fixed his shitty attitude he might actually get hired for something more meaningful.
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>>559070459
>If she was just a petty meaningless villain with no depth she wouldn't be popular.
She's popular for being a girl and her design, not her depth. You know that.
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>>559070614
>every character has had depth ever since Sonic Adventure
Since Sonic 1.
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>>559070601
I don't really care for any of these people but I think both Barnes and Ian have a serious problem behaving professionally online in a way that negatively impacts Evan. Like you mentioned what Barnes said about Evan ended up making her look incompetent even out of context. That's just not something you talk about with fans. It made it look like she's floundering about in need of his help.
Ian's comments about Evan writing Surge were also uncalled for. I don't have a link but it was when a fan asked if Ian had any opinions on Evan's take on Surge. Ian's response made it obvious he didn't like it. Compare that to the movie writers where all we know about their development interactions is that Fowler keeps vetoing Rouge.
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>>559070769
Trvke. If a character doesn't have depth in Sonic they will never be popular or relevant.
See Rough and Tumble. Daniel Barnes doesn't seem to understand what makes the Sonic franchise the sonic franchise and just wants to appease the fickle minority that is Sonic twitter who hates everything and barely understands the characters and franchise themselves.
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Everything that benefits Silver comes at the expense of Blaze.
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>>559070827
Isn't Barnes a weeaboo obsessed with Japanese Sonic?
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>>559070764
>She's popular for being a girl and her design, not her depth.
Bullshit. There are other sonic characters that are female with cool designs yet they never got popular.
Surge being an emotionally complex Neutral aligned Anti-hero with a devoted yet fully evil sidekick is genuinely one of the coolest concepts in the franchise.
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>>559070834
Shipping Silvaze is the point of Silver. Everything which benefits Silver comes at the expense of Blaze. Silver cannot even exist in the franchise without implicitly harming Blaze. Simple as.
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>>559070184
>>559070443
>society value
>this performative social media astroturfing and other shit takes that nobody cares about
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>>559070905
I'm not sure but he does give me windfag vibes.
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>>559068580
You made me realize that IDW OCs aren't created for legitimate creativity and passion, but so their creators can brag about their creations officially becoming a part of the Sonic Team mainline continuity.
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>>559070731
This post definitely reads like a co-worker venting. Just the way you're gassing up Ian, Evan, Tyson, and Abt while shitting on Danny reeks of faggots insulting the one who's not part of "the group".
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>>559070834
>>559070962
I agree. THis is why I desperate hope for Surge Blaze rivalry to happen so Blaze can finally interact with someone that isn't Silver and do cool stuff then over time she can reclaim her identity separate from Silver.
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>>559070927
I can assure you surge fans don't give a shit about any of that.
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>>559071041
Maybe Daniel isn't part of the "group" for a good goddamn reason eh? Maybe there's a reason why his coworkers don't fucking like him have you wondered about that?
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>>559068580
Her design makes me think of Carol if she was a jackal.
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Maekawa is ultimately to blame for the state of IDW and the franchise

shoujoslop -> tumblrslop -> wokeslop
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>>559071098
Surge and Blaze really did have a more interesting dynamic with each other than the entire history of Silvaze in canon.
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Sex with rabbits
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>>559071225
>kino -> kino -> kino
All Sonic media is good btw
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>>559071190
It's because he isn't an Archiefag like the rest. And your post sounds so personal. You fucks on the comic probably are shitting on him here lmao. Are you Gigi, Evan, or somebody else?
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This guy really does like just persistently pushing his dumb ideas thinking anyone here agrees
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>>559071225
Sonic has been
>Tumblr
and
>Woke since the 90's
Its part of the series identity.
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Stop being obsessed with the comic writers
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>>559071313
Who tops?
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>>559071141
All Surge fans give a shit about that. Unironically.
I haven't met a Surge fan that doesn't care about her character. Surge fans are arguably as protective about her character and backstory as shadow fans are about shadow's.
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>>559071432
Most Surge fans are just coomers and shippers.
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>>559071374
Shintoism isn't woke.

>>559071358
Not doing it for you.
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Of course everybody agrees i'm the best poster of /sthg/
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>>559071470
You can be all those things and still care deeply about the character.
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If I keep repeating my headcanon, everyone will agree with me!
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>>559071497
Your dick is the thing cares about the character. That's the difference.
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>>559071470
NTA but you're confusing Surge fans with Rouge fans.
I don't think of many Rouge fans that like her for more than being sassy and sexy. They exist but I don't think there's many.
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>>559071513
Yes.
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>>559071432
If surge fans actually cared about her character they would be vocal and hate Evan for ruining it.
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You just want to fuck the lemur
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>>559071493
If we had IDs this place would be dead in days.
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>>559071620
>"If Surge fans actually cared about the character they would agree with my extremely subjective opinion"
k
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>>559057073
>/sthg/ #9114 - Worst ship ever edition
Well I guess Amy and Metal debuted in the same game, so this IS technically Sonamy related.
>>559071324
>It's because he hates Sonic unlike like the rest.
Checks out.
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>>559071628
I want to fuck EVERY Sonic female. EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN ONE
>Even Queen Wis-
YES
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>>559071002
SHITizuka allowed this to happen by letting IDW infect the games. Now anyone who makes an OC in that promotional toilet paper will think they're canon.
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>>559071620
Legitimately the only place I've seen anyone complain about Evan's writing of Surge is on /sthg/. Everyone else loves how she writes Surge, the "We're heroes" panel was positively trending for a long time, and is still an iconic panel.
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>>559070642
Does her tail come out of her asshole? Isn't it too low?
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>>559071636
LMAO i always think about this, it's 5 faggots samefagging for 750 posts.
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>>559071669
>It's because he hates Sonic unlike like the rest.
Archiefaggots don't like Sonic. You have it all backwards.
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>stop discussing Sonic!
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notice how we don't have a sonic 5
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>start discussing Shadow!
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Evan's writing on Surge is only controversial on sthg
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>>559071636
The only ones posting are Krack, Duo, Sparky, Randomfox, Tailsfag, Slashy, Anon, and Me.
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>>559071757
It is an adorable panel.
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>>559071757
Surge shouldn't want to be a hero. She should being trying to kill sonic and Eggman like she originally wanted to do.
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>>559071926
>Randomfox
He actually posts here?
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>>559071757
Most Sonic fans are all pussies who love these squishy stories. The IDW staff is representative of the fandom.
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>>559071907
And to Ian, apparently. Didn't he want her to stay a villain.
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>>559071907
I wonder why that is? Is it because of sthg's insatiable desire to be contrarian?
>>559071970
This character is brand new and you're already trying to windfag Surge. Ian and Evan made Surge they understand her more than you do. Its like saying you know Sonic more than Maekawa does.
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>>559071997
It's very obvious that he does.
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If the IDW Sonic were really that good, we would've had a one-shot called "Catfight" where all the female characters sans Cream get into a dumb argument and have a competition where they fight over who is best girl.
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Why are we applying wind to characters who are still being worked on by their creators? It should only be a problem for Sonic, Shadow, Amy and characters like that because their creators are long gone.
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>>559072004
Yeah and thats good. Sonic has always been about mixing drama and serious themes with heartfelt moments.
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>>559072004
Shitter isn't the Sonic fandom.
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>>559072027
>Ian and Evan made Surge they understand her more than you do.
Except Ian said he hates how Evan writes Surge and wasn't what he originally intended
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>>559072165
These two have ZERO chemistry.
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>>559072246
It's too early in the morning for baiting anon, I have to go
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desu I don't like Ian or Evan's Surge. My ideal/ Sonic-y direction would be somewhere in the middle. A rebel without a cause, trapped in her own mental prison of her own punk "brand", while Sonic tries to free her but she rejects him.

Kinda like a "evil" Blaze, if that makes sense.

>>559072027
Ian and Evan already disagree about her direction.
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>>559071757
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Why are we bullying the new writer over characterizations in a comedy issue
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>>559071970
This is because Surge's motives changed constantly throughout her appearances. Right now, it's "Let's be heroes!", but the next time she appears, she's going to be given new motives to replace the current one.
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>>559072402
I'm a SNCA-enthusiast but I don't really see the problem. Jet being jealous is funny.
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>>559072306
It's not bait, these two have a dry ass relationship built on nothing. Fraudulent ass ship.
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>>559072521
too cute
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>>559072521
Do you think Boom Knuckles sings Sonic a lullaby before going to sleep?
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>>559072426
Eggman is at his best when he's is putting guns to children's heads and I won't here otherwise
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>>559072098
Woke writers ideas of "heartfelt moments" are tainted by projecting their self-aggrievement (victims engendering sympathy through trauma) thoughever.
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>>559072696
You're not funny, sorry but thought you should know we pretend to be nice
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>>559072696
Now you have to draw the rape scene
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>>559072696
You fags wouldn't be able write a serious story that wasn't about sex jokes or just straight up porn even at gun head
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>>559072792
Damn bro hates everything sthg has ever made
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>>559072775
>>559072792
This is true
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>>559071225
Yaoi/yurislop->Tumblrslop->wokeslop
FTFY. Don't blame Maekawa
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We need more Sonic fan works about sex
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>>559072987
What kind of sex
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>>559072327
Cinema
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Molest Kit
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>>559073030
Slow burn. At least fifty chapters before they even have horny thoughts
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>>559072889
sthg hasn't made anything good, ever
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>>559072889
Then nothing of value lost. Porn isn't hard to find and frankly nothing this place made compares to what you'd find in X.
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>>559072327
>Her smile and optimism: RESTORED
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>>559073119
Damn my edgegasm will be legendary
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>>559073146
Crashdow is good
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>>559071002
source?
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>>559072720
>projecting their self-aggrievement (victims engendering sympathy through trauma) thoughever.
Thats almost all writing ever. All the best stories and character moments in fiction were inspired by the writers own real events.
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>we are a package deal
>we are a package deal
>we are a package deal
Kit is sold separately.
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>>559073203
No it wasn't it was cringe as fuck and damaged Shadow's reputation.

I had to leave this place for a good while to recover from it.
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>>559072603
This video is for you. Don't reply to me if you didn't watch it
https://youtu.be/BxeJoIYs1Pc?si=fY7TB8hJihKrSyFa
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>>559066081
Maria is dead and Shadow moved on
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>>559072319
Ian's surge is kind of retarded outside the bubble it was made in because it stems from the idea that sonic doesn't "kill" Eggman, and that enables him to keep doing bad shit. The idea of Sonic killing Eggman is a very juvenile look on the series, and something that would never happen, so why would you write a character like that?

Evans take of villians turning heroes, (possibly due to the power of friendship) more online with the series. Generic, but given the backstory she has to work with, it's likely the better call. Even I that means the end of her character will just be a background cheerleader for Sonic like everyone else
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>>559073476
Is that Sonic's pregnant belly?
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>>559070182
>Only characters that can be used in battle are playable. So you can play as Chris or Cream but you can't play as Vanilla or Grandpa Chuck.
Hold on, didn't you say a while back that Maria was an NPC too? But >>559066081 shows her playable on the overworld; are exceptions made if the NPC is accompanying the party or something?
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>>559073203
Ever.
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>villains either die by accident or get redeemed
Didn't know sonic was a christian conservative brand.
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>>559073785
paws...
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fuck drawfags
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>>559073895
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>>559073895
We are mostly males
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>>559073504
Evan is fixing a mess Ian made, you can't do anything with it because like you said it wouldn't fly. Its the same reason I don't care about Kit, I know they're not going to do anything when she finds out.
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>>559074106
stop gooning
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>>559073952
I didn't mean it like that you fucking homo bitch
Hang yourself
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>>559073785
>tranny scars
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>>559074106
Nooo! How am I supposed to get my omega-verse sonadow mpreg fix now!!!
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Evan apologists hours?
She got less experience in writing than Ian flynn, someone who comes from a family that worked in dramaturgy. And despite that he's another cuck fetishist.
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>>559074375
why do males love cuckold?
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>>559074452
for the same reason fujos love gay rape
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>>559074614
gay rape is better though
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>>559073384
Nta but everyone knows what Silvaze is going for at this point, it just flops because there's no underyling stakes or structure. Silvaze is a cause without an effect. It insists upon itself.

>>559073231
Good writers, yes. Tolkein came up with LotR based on England and Christendom while in the trenches in WWI. Now we have Asian-Americans writing about their family trauma or whatever.
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>>559073384
NTA, I watched the video yesterday but my problem with Silvaze is always going to be the mountain of headcanon you have to do to fill the obvious holes. You have to imagine what you feel should've been written into their characters, but literally wasn't. So much of the information in this video start with "I believe" followed by an interpretation of what they think of these characters to supplement for text that isn't there.

I can understand the idea that Sonic Team is going for, that they instantly connect no matter what even if they have no history, that's the whole "in sync" part, but the actual execution leaves something to be desires because them being supposedly so in sync and so compatible is always display through battles that every sonic character has been through. What makes them specifically so different to put emphasis on this dynamic. Characters in this series meet up on the fly and start working and fighting together all the time because of this series themes always hinging on the bond of friend and it's power even across worlds and dimensions, what makes this different with them?
My other problem is this video's framing of these two being on equal level in terms of their duties and their approach to it, that they recognize the shared experience of bearing the weight of the world alone, but that's not the reality set forth by the games. This is injecting headcanon. It's something I've thought would make them written a bit better, if they actually explored those parallels, but the games do not, 06 does not explicitly address this and the games after always opts to put Blaze in a position where she's got everything figured out while it's Silver who still need help catching up and guidance. This video fails to address their appearances in the games past Rush, 06 and Colors DS that put the nature of their relationship into question.
This video also does not address Sonic Rush Adventure's characterization of Blaze.
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>>559073504
Perhaps. The idea of a character being traumatized by a hero failing to save someone is definitely a meta-narrative and un-Soniclike (Surge and Lanolin are in direct contrast to the theme of His World). Maybe it can never work.
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Writers yesterday:
>i survived a war with many casualties, let me tell you how faith kept me sane in this misery
Writers now:
>here's a story about how my father denied me from wearing a girl's dress that one time and i had a panic attack for 5 hours straight
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>>559074827
nasser el sonbaty...
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>>559075095
Knuckles could work if they acknowledge Operation Big Wave and all the soldiers who were devastated. Then again Knuckles has been the biggest waste in the entire comic so far.
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>>559075217
dont worry anon apparently another world war is coming, thanks God! Time to weed out the weak faggots
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>>559074859
And besides all that, there's just not enough here with the two of them to justify making their tanabata and in-sync themes the main meat of their characters when they have so much more substantial motives, especially Blaze having her side more fleshed out. It's more suited to being the background element of them. It would actually work better that way because then it fits the idea of them coming together once in a blue moon and instantly connecting no matter how much time there's been between seeing each other. But that only works if you know, they're actually apart and not joined to each others hip in everything while roaming around Sonic's world and are actually displayed actively doing the duties they're known for separately
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>>559074859
>they recognize the shared experience of bearing the weight of the world alone
This is why Silvaze is just stolen valor. Like that's just Sonic and Blaze's bag. "even if you feel alone there's always someone out there helping you" gets co-opted into this weepy bullshit.

I've grown tired of Maekawa's un-Sonic life-denying bullshit. SA2 (live and learn, the star shines even though the light is gone) is borderline but 06 (Sonelise, Silvaze) and Black Knight end on a fucking suicide pact. Sonaze is life-affirming.
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>>559075301
Or you can just walk outside, the world is already full of struggle.
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Non consensual relations with big tiddy mobian women.
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Sex with mobian children
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>>559075457
Actually movie 3 is good. Fuck SA2. It's not even "live and learn" it's "learn and die". Like Shadow learns his identity and past and then instead of choosing to live even though humanity is flawed Shadow just fucking kills himself. So fucking gay.
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>>559075457
Don't drag me into petty shipwar nonsense, I do not care for sonaze and I do not think that is their thing either. Sonic is not a hero with committed duties, he's just a guy that does things he feels in the moment. He is the opposite of Blaze while Silver is a parallel for her. There is a difference. Unfortunately for Silver and Blaze, the writers don't even recognize that enough to utilize it properly and it puts a direct blow on the dynamic of her and Sonic to portray her as someone who has things a little more figured out than Silver instead of equal to him in having flaws and figuring out how to bare the weight of their duties. Sonaze and Silvaze are bleak dynamics with Blaze's current portrayal
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>>559075795
How does that harm Sonic and Blaze's dynamic? Blaze fans are the most autistic of all.
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>>559075795
Sorry I meant Sonaze as the dynamic between Sonic and Blaze, not necessarily the ship. I agree with you that 06 uses Blaze as a mentor. I think they are correcting the problem since 06, but their relationship got even weaker without it.

My point was that the parallelism between Silver/ Blaze stands on top of Sonic/ Blaze while adding nothing. It's woo-woo to give Silvaze an air of legitimacy, which is why these analysis amounts to nothing but this kind of hand-waving in the end.
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>>559076624
By putting her into the same position as Sonic but for Silver, she no longer embodies the element of being Sonic's opposite and instead becomes a parallel while Silver is the one that is portrayed to be the opposite of Blaze. Blaze is the confident mentor figure that guides Silver the way Sonic does for others he's helped before while Silver is the naive one who's unsure of himself and needing guidance from her.
The thematic dynamic of Sonic and Blaze gets ruined, not verbal dynamics. If Silver and Blaze were portrayed as parallel as the video tries to push, then things would be fine, but that is not the case.
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>>559076705
>My point was that the parallelism between Silver/ Blaze stands on top of Sonic/ Blaze while adding nothing
That's only if Blaze parallels both, but she shouldn't be. She is supposed to be Sonic's opposite, it's why she can have the arc of learning from he and his friends in Sonic Rush
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Nothing ever happens.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-g0KKIHJgas
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I'm pretty sure that Ninefag is under 18
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>>559077181
very likely
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the two posters above me are underage



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