>NewsMGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.htmlREAD THE LINKS CAREFULLYhttps://pixeldraincom/u/4ek8KWa6 (3.01 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/4CdBetZr (3.04 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)Innocent Rules has been fully translatedNEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmcSHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKwNew MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_WikiNew MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_WikiJapanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQYou can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zipYou can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jyTiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.https://pastebin.com/w87i82zPToroToro Resistance's blog:https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710Previous Thread: >>558516402
sneks are kinda shit
You never know when Mermaids will strike.
I cast "get horny" spell on this thread.
>Succubus Prison: 21st Century NymphomaniacsThese games aren't as different as I first thought. You could mash them together and get a mostly-complete title out of it.
>>559295379I counter with [Headpat]!
>>559295379Haku-shima?
>>559295657Hakushiki. It means "Erudition".She can't wield her own weapon, the Sage's Wand, with her cat paws, so she gives it to Kazuya and made her own replica. I suppose she wrote on the staff to make it look like a real sage's staff.
>>559298265https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>559298381https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>559295379Oh no?
>>559295379Cured immediately.
>>559298868>allowing a monster anywhere near your penis>trusting a mermaid to cure your hornyANON NO SHE WON'T BE SATISFIED EVEN AFTER DRAINING YOUR BALLS EMPTY ANOOOOOOOON
>>559295379Sorry, anon. That version won't work on me!
>>559295379my depression nulls that
>>559301183how
>>559301837too sad to be horny
>>559298650
Horny angel editionAlbum of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyfFriends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902uThe latest, Raphaela by Dearonnus: https://files.catbox.moe/axocq5.png normal outfithttps://files.catbox.moe/7et6gl.png nudehttps://files.catbox.moe/624h1h.png nude with milkhttps://files.catbox.moe/0zo9em.png Pregnant (Octuplets, because that's the amount of eggs fertilised in her scene)https://files.catbox.moe/ki3wwq.png Pregnant X rayIlias gets goblined (was the idea of a guy I know, we split the bill on it)https://files.catbox.moe/o0scgh.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/1gtfou.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/5hgpe6.jpg
Goblins are disgusting, kill yourself.
>>559310039But Gob is good girl, she wants to deliver your pizza to you.
>>559310586Goblin girls are different
>>559310039>Goblins are disgusting, kill yourself.Understandable response, have a good day.
>>559299161Anon, she's a mermaid. My semen supply is infinite as far as mermaids are concerned.
So, I see there was some big updates to the proper translations bitbucket a few days ago, anyone has any idea how far done it is by this point percentage-wise? Like, 50%, more, etc?
>anon love succubus>like dryfishing boobs
>>559319281>prison guy killrip
>>55931544950% sounds right. Chaos route might be longer but it has non-linear story telling so it's like 40% to Alice/Ilias route being 30% full with action packed scenes
>>559321052Sariela is supposed to be unbiased when it comes to punishing sinners, giving them a proper sentence that fits their crime against Ilias. Gives one guy a succubus roommate where they fuck all day, while another gets a fat cannibal murderer where he has to sleep with his eyes open. Impartial prison warden my ass.
>>559322446I don't think Sariela gives the singlest shit about what happens after they're in the cell. And the unlucky person probably deserves it anyway so fuck em
>>559319281>Trying IliasMaybe...
ded threadded game
>>559319281>petplay coexistence>petplay lucky couple
>>559319281>daughter powerful
>>559294964Sex with snakes
Alright I need some help here. I'll delve more on later on why but first:>I know MGQ Paradox has some grand save compedium. Do other monster girl games have those too? INcluding others like Black Souls and SEQUEL? I'll ask over there too>Is it a common practice for some games to have a Clear data on them when you download? I remember some of the games I got from f95 had those.
>>559336567>Do other monster girl games have those too? INcluding others like Black Souls and SEQUEL?Not that I know of, most games don't really need one. It shouldn't be too hard to find a full save for Black Souls on f95 and someone here might have one too. A full save for SEQUEL is gonna be harder to find unless someone here has one though since f95 nuked all the SEQUEL games they had recently.>Is it a common practice for some games to have a Clear data on them when you download? I remember some of the games I got from f95 had those.As far as I know, it's not common practice. Some uploaders don't bother removing their saves, but save folders are usually empty in my experience.
>>559319281>anon love succubusyes>like dryfishing boobsyes
>>559319281>Shiki hellAIEEEEE
>>559338537Alright thanks. Which one of these two is the one that Ilias was the chosen heroine just to be safe? If there is such Save File for the matter. Else I can beg later for one like that.
>>559319281Very true!
>>559319281>seeing Hiruko
kage-onna
>>559354007
>>559294964clicked thread because snake lady
>>559355446is she a good girl? I mean it's shrift and that series is notoriously murder whorey even if the murder whore doesn't really mean to do that to you they are pretty much made to to that despite their personal desires
>>559357468Yes, she's very awful and in her rape scene she says if you don't last long enough to satisfy her she'll go after your family next.I just made that up. The girls in Shrift 2 are nicer and softer for the most part, since the game takes place before the war. Kage-Onna is among the friendliest girls of the game, she just looks creepy at times.
>>559355446very cute
>>559319281>/mggg/ complicated>nuclear autism
>>559358408>Yes, she's very awful and in her rape scene she says if you don't last long enough to satisfy her she'll go after your family next.That's Usuki succs!At least Shikis leave it at dryfishing (You).
>>559357468shrift 2 girls are generally good girls that don't eat humans with a glaring exception. kage-onna is chill and could be considered the "main" girl due to her being in the story cutscenes and being the first girl richard meets. their dynamic is cute and its endearing how much she geniunely cares for him.
>>559361204seeing oblivion reminds me of that guy who really wanted to fuck a flame atronach
Err... which torrent program do you use, bros?
>>559366190I use Tixati
I love Reina!
>>559366190QBittorrent, of course.
>>559366190qbittorrent
>>559366190torrent? can't you just get a mermaid for that? it's a pretty basic water spell.
>>559361204Fun times when that came out. The spriggans were hot.
>>559366383>>559367321>>5593674253 to 1 qbitorrent it is!
>>559313057
What practical use could monster girls have in our modern world?
NEW WIFE ART DROPPED(There's also the other Knights, if you're into them)https://x.com/Zazero00/status/2029311779751481680
>>559361852>seeing oblivion reminds me of that guy who really wanted to fuck a flame atronachWell they are pretty hot.
>>559371970>causes the vessel to crash>eats the suvivorsDo not trust mermaids! >>559295248
>>559371970Mermaids would make the best marine biologists possible. Everything else is lucky if they're farm animals or simple actors or fashion models. Worst case scenario they have powerlevels and render armies of men useless outside being cannon fodder.
>>559294964i want to fuck the vampire brat
>>559374032
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE EATEN BY FOX AAAAAAAA>Being eaten by fox is fine, actually. I don't care anymore.
>>559319281>Girl LukaGot you covered!Speaking of I'm going to need to find an artist soon if I want the April fools piece for this year to be done in time... Probably going to need to go to Nav again if I want it short notice. Got Succ and Fox, so I guess Slime or Dragon to continue with the heavenly knight races I guess.
>>559388842>big boobsWait, the hero lineage is shota and his mother is lucifina where did h-ACK
Instead of raping Luka what if they seduced him with lots of kind words, gentle caressing, slow gentle plaps, kissing and headpats? on that note, the brief sight we see of 20 years later adult VN Luka, bro looks so tired, not in a bad way but kinda like he's achieved his goals and dreams but he hasn't been getting enough sleep way, I wonder how big Alice has gotten by that point
>>559367104I saw this art posted on Discord, thought you'd appreciate it.
>>559367104>>559393002Tearing this chicken apart.
>>559393002Official /mggg/ discord when?
>>559367104>>559393002Is it rude to name your harpy daughter Omelette?
>>559396435how are you supposed to tell if eggs are fertilized or not when harpy poops em out
>>559397849The Harpy knows
Huh, seems they actually managed to release the dreams update without any bugs
>>559397849Let it incubate for 1-2 days and shine a light.
>>559396435i used to eat fermented duck egg and yeah eating fetus feel BAD
>>559396435I mremeber the Egg daughter in BS2I named her after the most important thing in my life...Faith.
>>559401712I hope to see her again in bs3 as a crazy yandere like her mother
>>559400032has the main plot progressed or are we still going no where and wasting time on minigames no one asked for. I want to difhr
>>559402560No main plot progression but they promised the ability to get all the stamps NEXT update>which may take more than one month depending on how things shake up
>>559389209>this used to have an attack called Young Girl's Modest Chest or something along those lines
>>559403257fucksake. atleast we finally got the perpetua update before things completely stalled out.
>>559389209giving genderbent shotas massive honkers is a rite of passage
>>559404872So is this character still an alternate form of Larharl, or is she her own character now? I'm confused as to what NiS is doing with her.
>>559405075its simple, DD2 had a joke chapter where etna's hair turns purple and laharl turns into a tall well developed chick as a joke because he's a runt and etna and flonne are flat. People online drew a lot of ecchi of girl laharl, NIS realizes the coomer goldmine they stumbled onto, so now they make variations for the gacha and sell her as postgame dlc for infinite money
Okay so on the why I am searching Save Files but that can somewhat wait later: I have been robbed about 3 weeks ago. Bandits invaded home 3AM, pointed their guns at us, took all the electronics they could find and whatever they perceived of value that was on drawers and the like, threatened us to give them the passwords, and due to divine intervention they triggered something they thought was an alarm and ran away with ''just'' all that.Could be much worse, the way I see it is that we got lucky in the end.So, while live service and online games are stuff that it's non-issue, I lost my progress in all my local games. Even that I don't mind much since I tend to play a game through the end once I start, so this is just the difference of a clear data that I can get from someone else save some exceptions.MGQ Paradox IS one of such exceptions. As I said before, I'm in no rush. I just got a phone and now a gaming notebook which seems quite good but the space is an issue so only in 2 weeks~1 month from now when I get to buy a bigger SSD and that arrives that I will be able to start truly gathering these things back.I've been thinking: how fast would it be to beat the first 2 parts of Paradox if I set it up on Easy or something like that? Cause I'm not sure a Save Data from someone else would be quite like what I did. A headstart, sure, and... well actually it'd more and more desirable as I talk. Is there some angel-obsessed anon here? That did an Ilias route, focused on those girls and has a data at the end of Part 2? It would still lack some of the stuff but I can get to it.I don't mind if he didn't do the sidequests. in fact, maybe I'd wish for that cause doing sidequests would help me feel the progression better.As for other stuff I did: I think I fought Lily because I remember Luka saying ''I hear their voices too, yours is one of them'' and I didn't recruit Natasha, I know that because an anon later posted his run and she reacts to the H.E.L.P. sign
>>559407117>how fast would it be to beat the first 2 parts of Paradox if I set it up on Easy or something like that?Depends on if you fast forward dialogue and use the new Part 3 item Ruler Ruler that lets you lower enemy stats and gain up to x10 xp all at once. It goes insanely fast if you do both and lower encounter rate making it like an hour each Part, but if you reread the story maybe like 5 hours depending on your reading speed.
>>559408262>but if you reread the story maybe like 5 hours depending on your reading speed.Wait really? Okay but how do I get this Ruler Ruler?Cause 5 hours sounds like a huge bargain. I'd get a lot of info to pay attention to in the reread
>>559409501You get it from a corrupted White Rabbit that's in the pocket castle entrance. It only works on Easy/Very Easy but you were already going to do that so it's all good.
>>559409865Awesome! Wait I don't lose anything like an achievement for that do I? Is there even anything like that in Paradox?Asking cause SEQUEL has a medal you get for clearing everything at high difficulty. I know I don't get to be picky, I just want to be sure. I'll likely do that anyway
>>559403869Paradox power scaling gave Blalice huge tits
>>559410162I don't think there's any achievements for difficulty in Paradox. The closest thing I can think of is there is a record saying your highest difficulty clear which I believe will keep the lowest difficulty you've been on meaning you have to suffer through earlygame and collab Paradox difficulty if you want that bragging right.
>>559410381I'm not complaining
>>559410857Alright fuck it then cause I'm not playing the goddamn collab at high difficulties.Not to slander the collab cause I loved the cultural clash of those guys arriving in MGQ and having to deal with and run away from most of the over the top madness in it, but I can't picture playing through the early collab with those small parties without skills at high diff
>>559410381She already had huge tits in her VN final form.
>>559410381It was done since she now fulfills the role of a jaded wine aunt, bitter over her younger sister successful marriage.
>monster girl rapes your penisI sleep.>monster girl asks nicely for your penisI wake.
>>559417707>good evening sir may I have your semen?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsfWFwWtR_g
>>559417707A tail that's known many a dick.
>>559420039Angels...
>>559427819...shove arrows up your butt, piss on you, electrocute you, charcoal you, turn you into a vegetable, guillotine your penis and make you bleed to death and put your brain in a jar
Why are human Heroes like this?
>>559430385I hate vegetables! L
>>559432243Men lusting after the exotic is a documented thing
>>559423306cute spooder
This is probably the worst blueball in the history of Digimon
>>559444724Digimon world next order had a male renamon in it.
>>559444724the world needs more monster boys and monster girls coexisting
>monster boysFuck off faggot read the name of the general.
>>559454020main monster girl game protagonist is a monster boy, and so is his autistic son
Yeah yeah same way sabasa king is a 'monster' boy, now fuck off.
>>559454436Nero calls himself human, as does Oberon.The "monster boys" don't behave or have the same biology as monsters and angels.
>>559404872>Etna is undoing Laharl's bra because she's so pissed off she's mocking herfunny detail
>>559456943Nero is still clearly not human anon don't pretend otherwise>>559454550Luka is a monster boy. This changes nothing, since you could replace human in that anon's sentence and it would be the same thing. Cope.
>>559457265So you're saying angels are monsters? Get this fag charcoaled
>>559457265Boys born from monsters and angels are still considered humans. I'm not sure why you are ignoring the canon, when it says it to you to your face.Humans of MGQ are not like us, they are lab experiments, with some of them being chimeras.
Turns out this artist has made a MW Tamamo daughter, they just didn't post it on their pixiv because they're not happy with it for some reason (also they can't think of a name).Obviously meant to be a far more sultry design than daughter of regular Tamamo.
>>559457335>angels are monsters?yes.Ilias is in the monsterpedia and she can cope all she wa-
>play DRAPLINE because its a cute raising sim about raising and feeding an insatiable dragon child to protect the world from calamity>you get to name her and teach her phrases like what to say when greeting people or what to say when she's excited>game is segmented in scenarios with the first one being fully playable with a 2-9 hard mode scaling difficulty after you beat it once>main bad guy of the first scenario makes a prediction that if dragon daugther defeats her and wins then she will have nothing left to fight but her hunger will continue to grow to unstable levels and she inevitably start eating everything and anything including people>Dragon girl, protagonist and dragon knight lady who's been watching over you since you started raising her counter with our impeccable raising that the bad guy never experienced.>alls well that end well> time skip to half a year later and our protagonists are on an isolated dragons peak because everything the villian said would happen did and we're self isolating to protect the world.>it gets so bad that we contemplate sealing her in a dragon sealing sword so that she wouldn't suffer from the hunger or hurt people any more.>this is when she hits her breaking point and starts to lunge for dragon lady and the protagonist-before the boss of the big bad guys teleports in, and offers an ultimatum of dragon daughter either joining her gang of alternate dimension divine dragons that go eat other worlds or stay here and hurt the people she holds dear>daughter choses to go with the big bad guy if it means protecting us and that she's glad she was able to save our world> on following playthroughs I am unable to give her the same nameI played this game for a fun time not to be hit so hard in the fucking feels
>>559458013it's not bad, just kinda generic, honestly. it just looks like tamamo in a kimono.>>559457681They're human if they're "human" in form; the Sabasa King or that one hero from yamatai are just strong because they come from a lineage descended from monsters, and Sara was human as well. So monster-blooded humans are just superhumans. Sara awakening her Monster Blood canonically makes her not human anymore, that's when she's a Monster Girl. Likewise Luka is completely human until his Angel Blood awakens, either through the ring being broken or the encounter with the Armored Berserker, at which point he's biologically (and canonically) not human anymore, even if he chooses to identify as one due to being raised as such. That's also not getting into White Rabbit and FoC.You don't have to like the canon, anon, but that's what the canon is. He's not human, he just prefers to think of himself as one to keep himself grounded and retain his sanity.
>>559458334ouchthat's just cruel, man
>>559459547>it's not bad, just kinda generic, honestly. it just looks like tamamo in a kimono.To be honest, I'd say their design for normal Tamamao's daughter is more generic, though, they did recently do new/updated designs for the heavenly knight kids.
>>559464821MG daughters tend to be drawn as litteral clones of the mother. Which is kind of funny, since MGQ's bizarre nonhuman biology makes their children sometimes look nothing like the mother.
>>559461547there's hope that additional scenarios will be added on the full release- theres a lore tab that opens after beating the game once and an unnamed character shows up to tell you not to lose heart and that in the future you may be able to change your dragon daughter's fate
>>559465448the game is pretty expansive for early access, if you let her go full wild you'll meet a bad end where she eats you and similarly theres an early ending for eating multiple villagers which leads to the knight dragon lady battling the daughter with different outcomes for win or lose, I won and she beats the dragon lady says "and you where talking so much shit while being so weak" and the game says good job you raise a world destroyer
>>559465223>Which is kind of funny, since MGQ's bizarre nonhuman biology makes their children sometimes look nothing like the mother.Yeah, that can be one of the tricky parts of trying to design a kid. You want it to be obvious who their parents (or as you said, in the case of Monster Girls, mother at least) are, yet can want to avoid making them too similar.I think they did a reasonable job in the Saja children example, though there they were aided by taking the Neris approach (having a form with human legs and the high powered form has the tail). I guess funnily enough the makes the bub daughter a good example of how to do it, blatantly a bub, but the addition of angelic traits makes her look very different to her mother.
>>559466392I do wonder if the artist of these daughter monsters were intentionally made with them being a daughter in the first place. Outside Neris and the angel Bub of course.I do believe Setouchi said something along the line that he never made Cassandra and her yellow squid daughter as a family, and was surprised at their big roles in the VN.
>>559467386>I do wonder if the artist of these daughter monsters were intentionally made with them being a daughter in the first place.Well, inverting that, one monster obviously designed as a mother was Alice's mother (the 15h). She's a lot larger than Alice, but family resemblance is obvious despite having a different artist. Funny how outside of that the monster lord line is largely whack, and exemplifies the "sometimes daughters look nothing like the mother" thing.El being the mermaid Queens daughter was probably always planned, and add that to the list probably.
>>559468158Maybe you are right about El, but it would be funny if TrTr just asked FrFr to draw a mernaid loli without any indication of her story importance. Her lack of blue skin is curious, since it's the most striking thing about her mother.But TrTr himself seems to want to explain things like monsters becoming more human, and ancient breeds are being lost with their more monstrous characteristics.
>>559464821No kanon or hiruko seriously making an incomplete collection here.
>>559471145If he does make a Kanade's daughter, it does mean he would need one more to make six neo Ancestors. Hiruko is probably the one he would choose if another twin set isn't made.
You don't understand at all! Their weapons are not claws, but senses! Desire! Every breath you take, every heartbeat, every feeling will become a ladder for them to erode you!You see them, and you will fall into the most beautiful illusion! You hear their voices, and you will forget all your responsibilities! You smell their scent, and you will willingly kneel at their feet and offer up your soul!Any resistance in front of them is futile! Because resistance itself is a strong emotion, which will also become their food!
>>559472310>Every breath you takeThey'll be watching you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cucosmPj-A
If a hole exists, it's only natural that someone would want to stick something inside it.
>>559477895this hole......it was made for me!
>>559459547I don't think their biology really matters. I know a woman's ideal monster boy is a completely regular guy with glittery skin, but I don't think that really fits the spirit of what a monster girl should be. If they look human, they're human. I don't care how inhuman a girl is biologically if she pretty much always looks like a completely normal girl for all intents and purposes.
>>559480559That's like saying succubi or vampires aren't monster girls, that's just retarded. Not every monster girl has to be some kind of eldritch horror or girl+animal part.
>>559482362>That's like saying succubi or vampires aren't monster girls, that's just retarded.Depends on how exactly you define "completely normal girl"A succubus who looks the part with horns (or head wings like Darkstalkers) and wings, plenty of people gonna say that doesn't look like a completely normal girl. For vampires, well, now there's a debate. Plenty of vampires who look the part with highly visible fangs and special outfits and what not, but also plenty who blend in with their vampire traits hidden most of the time.
>>559482362>this is "cosplay tier"But a literal cosplay tier fox girl, that's a "real" monstergirl
Current status of Part 3's translation? I wanted to replay and enjoy the story again, but reading nip takes me a long time and MTL is shit
>>559490539It's like 80% into both Alice/Ilias routes. Still like 2 years away to completion.
>>559310039:(
All you need to do to get a monster girlfriend is to tell her I love you.
>>559500717OK, I'll tell them you love me
You should konsider foxes.
>>559505145But they'll konfiscate my semen?
>>559482362Succubi are drawn with some kind of non-human parts most of the time so they're fine.Vampire: The Masquerade proves that there's plenty of room to make vampires look pretty monstrous in various ways if you want to. But as far as regular vampires go, I think that they're rather boring from a monster girl design standpoint even if the design itself looks good. They're still more interesting than elves though.
>>559506794>They're still more interesting than elves though.
>>559506794 To elaborate, I think the important question is what makes a monster girl a monster girl.Is it her body? The way she acts? Her abilities or special biological requirements?When it comes to their personality, any monster girl could act like a normal person and any human girl could act like a monster. As far as abilities and biology goes, the only practical difference between a wizard that drinks blood and a vampire is how pointy their teeth are.The way I see it, the thing that really makes monster girls unique is their body. It's the mix of human and non-human in one design that makes me interested in monster girls in the first place. It's why I've never really considered elves monster girls since they're always just blonde humans with big tits. Vampires are in a similar place for me, but at least they have strict biological needs that make them feel a lot less human. Also, they're a lot less common than elves so I have less chances to get sick of them.Just to be clear, I don't expect every single monster girl to be a Xelvy or anything, I'd just like for them to have at least a LITTLE more than slightly bigger ears or tiny fangs they can hide by simply closing their mouth. Just adding something like fancy eyes or horns big enough to be visible through their hair would already be enough for me.
>>559512507MGQ really juggles the idea of Elves being monster girls, not really giving a definitive answer.I would have chalked them up as not being one unless they get completely corrupted, especially with the Alf information. But why are they under the thumb of the Monster Lord? Even giving them the authority over their own leadership selection. It gets even more strange with the more pure Alf strain of descendants in MW. Are they monsters? They are considered part of the elite of Saja's army, and follow Fat Alice.It's a similar case to the Mermaids, the Spirits, and the Fairies in all honesty. Is a monster just something that is not human and angel?
>>559512507>The way she acts?I place the highest importance here. For me, monster girls should feel a bit like encountering a large wild animal.You can't feel too safe around them, you don't know what they might be thinking, and you can never predict them perfectly. Tension.Even if a monster appears amicable, they could still be looking at you as potential prey or mate to be whisked away.I think the monster > human aspect is essential. Even when monsters blend to human societies without problems,there should still always be that shade lurking just beneath the surface if you get too close.
>>559513381This just means Elves are race traitors. Never trust knife-ears!
>>559512507It varies from her lust for semen or lack of males in the species at the most extreme to just having non human features on the opposite end.
>>559512507anything humanoid but not human and female is a monster girl
>>559482362>That's like saying succubi or vampires aren't monster girlsSuccubi aren't. We just lump them in with monsters because they're not human, but they're demons. Those are something else.
>>559514660demon girls are still monster girls, that such is dumb
>>559515394Demons should always be distinct from monster girls.
>>559515618no. take that up with fatlice if you have a complaint about it.
>>559516004Wouldn't be the only time she got creative with her spawn.
>>559516156She used Ilias as a template for making her seven kids though? All of them are very humanoid super models, and don't look like a freakish genetic abomination like she does.
>>559516417They're designed to look like humans, not Ilias. The fact that Ilias happens to look like a monkey is purely coincidental.
>>559516673Weren't humans not invented yet by the time the ancestors were born. It was just Alves
>>559516868Huh. Still, the point remains that Minagi doesn't fit the template. She can't reproduce normally, and her "daughters" don't greatly diverge from her in the way the others' descendants do.
>>559516868Yes, and we don't really have any idea of what a run of the mill Alf looked like. The ones with the thickest Alf blood running in their veins are multi-armed warrior women.
>>559517091Do we have any evidence that Minagi is unable to reproduce normally? None of the ancestors have any confirmed direct blood decendents after all aside from just vaguely being the ancestor of most monster girls
>>559517091Minagi mentions she was willing to have Luka's babies in the giant banquet party, showing she can have kids the old fashion way, but never did it for thousands of years like her other sisters. It seems like the more powerful a monster gets, the less it wants to have children, since we are talking about a bunch of hags older than humanity itself.The only one that you can maybe did have a child Saja, but definitely not the MW version.
It is kind of weird to me how hard Trtr has decided to tiptoe around the idea of the ancestors having kids. Even Minagi's kids aren't something she had to be plapped to make. It's not like the ancestors are exactly pure waifus or something it's just rather weird
What different phrases would a talking Alice plush doll say if you squeezed her?
>>559517483>>559517574I've learned something new.
>>559518147My one and only theory that I can come up with is that they are terrified of potentially birthing their own usurper. Kind of like a trauma indented into their genes after Koron or something, and we know they unconsciously acknowledge their big sister's existence.
Konwomen.Know the difference. It could save your semen.
>>55951835972 different variations of hora obviously
>>559518642So all those random foxes seducing men were actually Tamamo in disguise...
>>559518557Tamamo sure but I cannot believe someone like Kanon or Hiruko would have that kind of foresight. I think the main theory is that none of them simply ever felt the want to ever actually have a family, so no kids. To be fair who'd want a family when your family is as dysfunctional as theirs
>>559518359>Calling you an idiot>Assorted Horas>Insults>1/1000 chance of her quietly admitting she loves you
>>559519716Technically, Kanade did have kids, but Slimes are weirdoes that defy logic, and destroy our understanding of physics, biology, and boomerang aerodynamics.
>>559520316The following sentence appeared in my mind, and I need to know how we can make it happen:>Regime change in Kanade
>>559521263Some human invented a nuclear powered boomerang that can circle the whole world in a few seconds before you the wielder catches it.All the Lime like personalities in her goes nuts, and they force the boring, no fun allowed Kanade to buy it.
>>559521732I love democracy.
Any bets on what character trtr's light novel will vindicate and make beloved? It seems to happen every time some stuff comes out
>>559513381Maybe they've just been allies for long enough that everyone considers them monsters politically even if they aren't technically monsters on a biological level.>>559513528It's definitely nice to see monster girls with a more monstrous personality or ones that have an alien approach to things.
>>559513528I feel like in most instances this just leads to shikibus tier antics. I personally still want a cute girl to be a large part of the personality because they're ultimately still girls at the end of the day. If all I cared about was a monstrous personality I could just go to a human girl for that
>>559522591Echidna.She was right all along.
For me it's about the extra non-human design elements you can use and having a connection to an actual myth. Monster girls are just more interesting fantasy races for me to get away from the 50 flavors of elf and short dudes. It's fine if they aren't all about fucking you or if there's monster boys, that just makes it more of a fantasy world rather than a porn world.The monstrous personality is still a useful tool for the more mystical encounters(demon/angel/eldritch) that good fantasy needs to feel bigger than the ordinary.
>>559525014I feel like most monster girls are inherently going to imply the idea of a porn setting, though. You can get away with some of the archetypal fantasy creatures like harpies and centaurs and the like but once you start making dragon girls and catgirls you may as well just own it and understand it's porn
>>559525256Kind of bad examples given that cat girls are the one anime symbol and dragonborn are a D&D core race(even if we would classify them as lizard girls).I think you can get to the same level of not-porn as any of those Japanese settings with a generic demon/beast tribe, which is good enough for me. You won't get to include hundreds of species like mg games, but you can get even the obscure ones if you just make the setting obviously Greek, Egyptian, Hindu, etc.
>>559526181I feel like the issue is something like Dragonborn are full on lizard people. Most animal people in most standard fantasy settings are decently nonhuman because that checks out as sufficiently "realistic" to the average person. Now when we're going out of our way to make these races specifically monster girls it's pretty obviously the writer's fetish and you may as well own it. Not to say that no one wants to fuck a D&D dragonborn obviously but there's far more plausible deniability with that design compared to a monster girl
>>559525256>making dragon girlsI'm doing my part!
>>559519067>>559520267And how would you activate her voicelines?
>>559526587Obviously, you cum on her. Semen power is the backbone of all monster tech.No batteries required, very konvenient!
>>559505145>>559505831I'm koncerned...
>>559518359>I fucking HATE FOXES!!>raping luka noises
>>559526587Pull cord, personally.The other one works too...but only if the doll comes with Real Alice Grip Action.
>>559525256>>559526489>You can get away with some of the archetypal fantasy creatures like harpies and centaurs and the like but once you start making dragon girls and catgirls you may as well just own it and understand it's pornTo be fair, I think non-furry humanoid dragons are one of the few species that might make someone consider if the character designer was horny. Aside from a few things like humanoid slime girls or various kinds of regular animal girls, most kinds of monster girls are already based on some kind of mythology and have appeared in clearly non-fetishistic contexts with no obvious influence from anime. Besides, it's not hard to make something like a dragon girl feel normal and not fetishistic. All you really need to do is make their design lean into their monster side rather than their human side and make sure they don't look like a stripper. Everyone remembers Quelaag being a horny design because she's naked and her boss intro has a closeup of her tits, not because she's a monster girl.>it's pretty obviously the writer's fetish and you may as well own itTo be fair, that's hardly exclusive to monster girls. In fact, it's far more common for obvious fetish races to get turned into practically human girls with few monstrous parts than the other way around. I think having more monstrous girls would actually make anyone other than a monster girl fetishist think it's less horny rather than more. What weirdo would possibly want to fuck a girl with tentacles after all? NieR Automata is probably a pretty good example of this. I bet the average person would probably take the character designs more seriously if they were MORE robotic instead of wearing skimpy outfits and high heels.It's not like monster girl media has to be lewd anyways. It's just that only monster girl fetishists would ever consider making series with a focus on monster people. And if you're a monster girl fetishist making monster girl media, you might as well indulge yourself.
>>559526587Pull cord but it's hidden inside her tail
>>559518359>>559519067>>559520267>>559526587>she is voiced by Debra Willson
>no poisonous equally socially awkward land mine dragon girl to bant withwhy even live
woof
a friend of mine said that no story with porn can be good. I'm kinda seething at this.
>>559552989the porn part is a natural progession of a love story. it's the lovey dovey honeymoon phase that literally every couple goes through. the real question is if the game/story has the cojones to depict the other parts-from their initial meeting to how and why they fell in love that is usually the bulk of the beginning and middle, to the afterwards of the 'happily ever after' and the ups and downs of their new daily life together.not just the "we want to fug eachother" phase
>>559552989I don't completely disagree? at least in the sense that porn must kind of take a bit of a backstage if you want your story to work properly. You see it in paradox pretty heavily with the porn stuff becoming more and more background. Aside from Echidna but you know
>>559552682Awfully horny?
>>559554412>>559554630I means that ANY and ALL ero content makes a game "pornslop".Even a story like N.P.C dreams, or Black souls that have little to no porn. Despite him being obsessed with kitsune, he won't even play MGQ.
>>559555072oh that. Yeah that's a depressingly common mindset. With how sloppa western porn and porn games tend to be I can see the mindset
>>559552989>Paradox Part 3 and Rance X are currently the UNDEFEATED KINGS of vndb while the highest-rated non-eroge (Umineko) is 6th placeHe appears to be... wrong
>>559555072>or Black souls that have little to no porn>the game with the big red rape button in 99% of conversationsanon....
>>559555782You don't need to press the big red button. You're punished for pressing it. You can even disable the scenes.
>>559556224>You're punished for pressing it.not really. most girls that aren't lorina or kuti feed into it being a fetish thing of domination. it makes sense in the lore why since the whole thing is just set up to use grimm as a breeding tool so it makes no difference if he's raping them or its consensual. like sure if you go around raping everything you probably won't progress tnrough the endings or understand the bigger picture, but someone could absolutely pick up the game, rape and jail all the covenants and walk away satisfied.
>>559556683Except in bs1 you get a big fucking nigger in every single map following you? You also have a sin counter. You're 100% punished for it, and the one time it happens in story, it's viewed negatively.
>>559557124can't you just absolve sins at the sin absolver? i never raped in bs1
>>559555596So are you saying that the top five VNs on vndb are hentai games?
>>559557332I double checked and apparently S;G doesn't have h-scenes either (for some reason I misremembered it did), so 4/5 of vndb's top 5 contain h-scenes
>>559557124You can easily absolve your sins for a 5000 souls a point, which becomes chump change very quickly, Lindamea is one of the best antagonists in the game, and you need to get the Black Trial after you to get Miranda, who you need for ending A.Rape rewards you with scenes, a party member, and an ending.
>>559560658 i was able to get miranda to show up with the sin you get for killing heroines with in the hotel. you don't need sin in the first place to acess the dlc and you need to have no sin to join the black trial, the npc dude that tries to join before you gets insta gibbed because he had sin
>>559565928I might have misinterpreted anon but it doesn't matter becuase you can buy sin at the swamp from the zombie dude
>>559555072So does he just refuse to touch any porn or something since it's apparently not good enough for him?>>559555596Huh, I wasn't really expecting Paradox to be on vndb.
>>559565928>i was able to get miranda to show up with the sin you get for killing heroines with in the hotelI know for a fact that you don't need to do this to get Miranda since I still haven't worked up the courage to use it that way.
>>559566670Yeah. Anything. I'm sure he'd enjoy some games but he just won't give them a shot. And I'm for sure not insisting anymore.
>>559526508Your strength, your pride, your honor, your virtue, your knighthood, your bloodline, your body, your mind, your soul, her right, now and forever.
>>559526508I'm doing my part!>>559569883I consent to all of these. Every last one. Gods, please.
>>559567147>I still haven't worked up the courage to use it that way.it's a req for ending D anon you gotta get around to it eventually and it making you feel like the biggest piece of shit ever is intentional
>>559552989mgq and mgq paradox story is dogshit but most people play porn to jerk off
why do most of the time i see monster girl most of the snuff porn alway has to be related japanese.What even is the appeal
>>559578765cute bait
>broken english>retarded post
I just curious why snuff tag was so prevalent to monster girl and is usually a japanese artist
>>559580286>so prevalent to monster girlMythology>and is usually a japanese artistSame answer
>>559575572I was planning to do another loop where I intentionally fuck up every single questline instead. I figure willful negligence with extreme prejudice is a little better than outright murder and I get to see more unique scenes that way. >>559580286It's because japanese people make more monster girl art than other people. I don't know what makes people specifically like snuff, but I assume part of it is because it makes the monster girls feel a lot more evil. A lot of people like evil women.
https://x.com/monster_fruits2/status/2030069451752882597>>559569883>>559570045You seem like you'd be interested in this picture.
>>559580286Mythology like the other anon said. The Succubus and the Siren are probably the best examples. I would imagine a lot of people are attracted to monster girls exactly because of their association with snuff (or at least a vague sense of danger)
ETA on MGQP NG+?
>>559581482We don't knowMaybe sometime by the end of the year
>>559581482There's no coming soon messages from the blogposts so expect at least more than 6 months.
>>559581482TrTr seems to keep changing his mind on what this Golden Path is really going to have, so it just gets bigger in scale. It gets even more hazy since he is also writing a LN that is gigantic, but at the same time, free to download.We do have some idea of what this Golden Path is going to have, since he showed off designs of "new" characters that were going to appear.
>>559580985reading a romantic monster girl porn it turn out she just groomed him since he was a kid so she could fatten his souls and then killed him why he desperately eascape
>>559582225>TrTr seems to keep changing his mind on what this Golden Path is really going to have, so it just gets bigger in scale.What does he have in mind for it? Is it going to span parts 1, 2 and 3?
>>559582373Unknown, but in a blogpost he showed off a screenshot of the Breaker route. So it does look like you will be doing everything that Luka had to do for all three parts, only with Chaos by your side. Some are guessing that the MW/AW routes are going to get their own super happy ending, with Breaker/Judge job class being the reward for finishing them.
>>559582373You should expect that. Chaos wants to relive Luka's memories which would be the whole game. Any bonus stuff is just because its postgame content that Trtr can simply put behind this mode because he wants people to adventure with Chaos.
>NG++ is going to really be an entire Part 5I'm on "5" because I already feel like Part 3 is Part 3+4 with the Split routes as 3 and third route as 4.I commend torotoro's absolutely insane dedication.
>they're going to be asking about NG++ translations before work on chaos route has even begun
>>559589035Needs more alcohol
>take an hour nap earlier due to being a bit sick>have vore dream>wake up diamondsThanks, Alma Elma for messing with my dreams.
>>559585660With a super-long LN getting released for free on the side no less.Is there any dev out there more passionate about what he does?
>>559590815That's what I meant. Truly I can think of no man with more dedication.
I don't believe that Slimes rape people. Just look at this adorable creature! Does she look like a rapist? Thought so.In fact, I'm going to the Slime Mountain right now to disprove those vile rumors. Will report on my findings later.
How's a young man supposed to keep his purity with all these imps and slimy slimy waiting just outside the village
>>559594671There's lots of fish girls in the sea. You'll find the one imp who wants to wait until marriage, but only if you keep looking.
Now that the dust has settled, what really made Heinrich become the doom guy but for angels?What is just being forced by Ilias to kill his waifu (who was still legitimately evil)?
>>559594671>How's a young man supposed to keep his purity>outside the villageAnd even the temple priestess dresses like a slut! There are rumors she's an orc girl.
>>559594671>How's a young man supposed to keep his purityYou don't?
>>559590538Don't be sad, be a happy meal.
I don't like Alma killing people. Feels ooc even if it can happen in the main game.
>>559599046It's just Luka, and he asked her in the pocket castle.
>>559598954He doesn't look very happy...
UWAA WE'RE BACK>>559526508DRAGON MARRIAGE
>>559580985>outright murder they're fairytalesfinish the library anondo it
But what if there's nothing special about monster pussy?What if Luka is just a quickshot because he is half-angel?
>>559605345>nothing specialI wouldn't go that far. fucking a slime girl is gonna feel alot different from a regular human girl for instance, but luka is definitely also a quickshot weak to pleasure
>>559605345In the Q&A it was said that Heinrich or anyone else would similarly turn into a cumming mess.
Gnome love...
>>559606849The man whores of MW San Ilias must be super human sex machines since they are mostly of sound mind after hours of monster pussy. They even give advise on how to keep the work activities going.
>>559605345If you take Paradox skill rankings into account you're better off tanking a shotgun than not cumming in monster pussy.
>>559607258San Ilias also has "milk" that are of better quality than Luka, the one, and a life time genetic mistake.Was there some sort of 1000 year eugenic program going on in San Ilias that made men better sex beasts?
>>559599626He's just a little worried about the experience being underwhelming but once he gets inside he becomes the happiest meal.
>>559611421>Was there some sort of 1000 year eugenic program going on in San Ilias that made men better sex beasts?It's called the blessing of God/Allah man, take the faith pill and be a better human, work out and be strong to protect your loves, do good as God has given you the power to do so...and don't look for example BE one, be the bearer of the torch in this dark and uncaring world!All it takes is a little faith and strength from you and everything else God will provide.
>>559615624Loved ones*
>>559615624But MW San Ilias was a nation ruled by Succubi for those 1000 years? They are sin incarnate devils.
>>559616078It's your God/Allah given duty to convert them and show them the error of their ways(convert them, marry them and make tons of kids)
>>559616354Yamatai chief...
Got to the start of the Chaos route when part 3 first came out. Now 2-ish years have passed and I'm picking the game back up. Jesus christ there's a lot of information to process. I've menus upon menus of skills, all of which could potentially chain into one another. Books worth of what-ifs, triggers, passives and conditionals. I got Rosary from a high priest NPC and I spent a solid 6 minutes looking through menus just to find it. I feel overwhelmed and I guess I'm looking for advice?
>>559621694I can't believe that paradox makes luka a law/chaosfag
>>559621694>Hero of Chaos>Super Archfiend>Shura>Commander of Heaven's Army>Magus Supreme>Eternity>Ultimate Idol>Ouroboroswtf why is it so edgy
>>559621694Most conditionals won't trigger against a majority of bosses but are cheap so don't think about them too much besides Stats Down/Stigmata&Corruption and maybe Slow. They'll make random encounters die in 1 or 2 turns if you do use them unless you're somewhere you shouldn't be.Skills with Chaos elements stack both element boosters so Holy+Eternal, but if you have Eternal+Carnage you get all 4 Physical+Carnage+Holy+Eternal making Micaela a strong early companion with her Carnage/Eternal spear+sword skills combined with her Carnage boosting trait and Holy+Eternal boosters from Angel race. You can use Holy for the buff to gain +50% attack doing more damage than just attacking 3 times (unless you already have the buff of course) this tactic is useful for a couple of chains but not all chains have early buffs.Remember stat gems are the best because it's multiplicative instead of additional. 100+15%+15% dex = 132%~ vs 15+15% bow booster =30%
>>559622116He saw the merits of both, and decided to unite them to make a new path. It's called being a yellow bellied Neutral, whose entire philosophy is having no strong opinion on anything.
Evening /mggg/, just alerting you up next for our divegrass match against /bag/ in Ladies Night 3. The gimmick of this invitational is the players can only be ladies, so a few players have stand-ins this cup. /bag/'s usually a pretty decent team, so it might be a close one.You can cheer on the ladies here: https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
>>559622864no neutral is about killing your friends that got radicalized by demons/angels
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>>559599626
>>559631432This woman is incorrigible, yet Victoria has never abandoned her.Get a friend who's as loyal as Victoria.
>>559632928Cupid was made by Ilias.So is Cupid a mistake, or did Ilias make a retarded degenerate on purpose?
>>559633561She did it on purpose. For her amusement.
>>559634094wtf maybe Armored Berserker was right.
>>559633561>>559634094illias is a retarded degenerate.it shouldn't be a surprise that her creations are too
>>559628023Massive fox tits... *cums*
>>559632928>>559634094Maybe Ilias is secretly a vorefag... is that why she's BFFs with Alma now?
>>559642548Alma reminds her of her fat sister before she got the late term abortion. A unapologetic vore queen who likes to fight people to test her strength.
>>559642756I don't know, I think Ilias is just trying to get herself "unwillingly" vored.
Does Paradox still need to do all that stuff of downloading the raw game and then producing the translated version with another program or is there a pre-translated version?
>>559647520Should have been Cheshire and Ruby, since they're both homophobes.
Which way do you use 4chanX? I hear there is Tapermonkey and Violetmonkey.I don't really remember what I did last time.
Do you guys think trtr will try to throw at us some challenging fights in the upcoming Chaos Route or will he give up and resort to standard ''lets pump up those numbers'' solution? I liked how Black Souls 2 DLC made grinding non obligatory for the sake of careful planning and nerfed bruteforcing.
>>559649710I use Violentmonkey, and XT over just X.
>>559650009Thanks
>>559650050Np.
>>559647520i'm surprised no one has made a leaf-demifiend crossover art
>>559649938Trtr is going to ''lets pump up those numbers'' but only for the bosses to be able to tank nongrinded Chaos for a turn or two. Kinda like how Alice route is balanced around her specifically.Best case scenario of him giving a challenge would be making a boss nullify swords+heroism to fuck over people from using Luka only, but I doubt he'll go full gimmick boss like Nightingale or Unicorn
>>559649938He is going to nerf a lot of strats to the ground probably. I'm guessing boosters in general are going to take the bat to the face, as will conditionals, again. He might nerf the whole crisis mode in some way too, maybe making all the crisis boosts only active in the character's second turn or something.He might hard limit the amount of actions per turn as well, and maybe even start weakening chains, like having them lose their power per chain skill. Something like 1st skill 100%, 2nd 50%, and 3rd 25% as an example.The problem is he is also probably going to boost the enemies while wrecking your abilities at the same time.
>>559649938I hated exra actions and weapon switching meta. Stacking gear and covenants for more attacks per turn is so much better than any other choice and yet feels intendedGunclock is at least an obvious exploit and doesn't feel like you're purposely gimping yourself for not using it.
>>559628023I think we should kill Ilias
>>559651719Those are so many nerfs that it would unironically make Part 3 high tier characters like the Archangels on par with Kraken. Maybe even Chaos as well. Chains with reducing damage would fuck over almost everything since the strongest is saved for last most of the time.
I think I should FUCK Ilias.
>>559659642>Muh True History!Paradox Alice doesn't understand that she never earned it. Unlike VN Alice who gave Luka a blowjob or titjob in a dirty inn, Paradox Alice stays in the PC kitchen stealing food all day.
>>559660024I mean memes aside she unironically has the largest kill count while in the party thanks to her own route, and if you do count Worldbreaker she's part of it as a fusion.
>>559646617Bet she masturbated while being inside Black Alice's belly back in the VN
>>559660894Exactly!
>played the mgq VN back in 2016>good game good gooning>fast forward 10 years>married and have a job>friend reminds me of the game's existence through a shitpost>discuss paradox (honestly forgot that was a thing though 10 years back it was just announced iirc) and find myself here again>immediately washed with nostalgiaIn this everchanging world I am glad some things have not changed
>>559663689Glad to hear that anon, always nice to have something you can rely on.MGQ (and Paradox) is surprisingly good at that. Though I'm assuming you aren't playing paradox by now lol.
unyaaaaaaaa
>>559669420
>>559669420>>559669485
>>559670139AIIIIEEEEEE
>>559670474!
>>559670578
Are the cats gone..?
>>559674598
>>559674598Nyes, we're tyotally gyone, nyou can cyome out nyow...
>>559680194
>>559675889I love Ratty...
>>559670578I love roxy.
>>559670578It's amazing how much I hate this character.Maybe because I utterly despise hypocrites, but she really boils my blood.
>>559691540Is it really a crime to NTR an elf?
>>559691131My wife, Granberia!
>Harpy turns into a Vampire>hear her immediatelly utter "I am the bird of Hermes..."
>>559694501Unlike THAT bird of Hermes, I'm pretty sure you eat her out, instead of eating her wings. To make her tame, and all.
>>559694086>>559691131I like the trope of the lizard girl fight autist, like granberia and that one in MGE that's eternally seething that she can't maul people and have a proper fight because the monster overlord made a "you can only fight via sex" blanket curse on the continent
>>559694890I do as well, rather obviously. Though, MGD is what you mean.MGE does have an entire species of them though, in the Salamanders, if I'm not mistaken!
>>559669485>>559670139>>559670474of all the things to be afraid of how the fuck does anyone get scared to death by a fucking nekomata of all things?at least Apoptosis and hiruko and her spawn(most bugs and leeches) i understand but nekos aka beast monsters the least evil and most likely to protect humans and get alone with them?...wtf
>Ilias>Looks like a "normal" elf with wings>Alice 1st>her "human" form is a normal dark elfI think i'm notic...........................
>>559704804It all started with one anon who had a nightmare about the MGQ nekomata coming after him.
>so-called human supremacists and non-cosplay-tier monster supremacists when they see a nude elfMore like manWHORES cause that’s what you are
HALFLING PUSSY
>>559706681Wait, it's all elves?
>>559706681In what is known as the Akashi Records, the information network of the universe, the idea known as the Goddess, and the Demon Lord(or Maou) exists. The 9th Universe was greatly effected by this information flow, as the names and shapes of these two ideas gained self-awareness, and established themselves in their roles.We, as in the 8th Universe, loved Elves so much, that the 9th Universe saw the foundations of its three dominate species and their gods routed in the Elvish idea of beauty, purity, and the most perfect shape. Elf supremacy is real, and you should accept it.
>>559707106>>559707428>>559707413if you think about it the dream of every man is to:>live in a village with your wife and children>closer to nature that is better for you and kids>have some pets cat or dog>tend a garden of some sortYeah the dream wife of all males is an elven woman
>>559707413>>559707428>>559708678fuck elves
>>559708678You are describing foxes.
>>559710061I remember someone talking about popular monstergirl gelbooru tags some time ago, aren't foxes competing hard with elves in terms of popularity?
>>559710223>fox_girl 106k>elf 100kIt's over...
>>559708678You are describing angels
>>559710691>>559710953The future is foxed...so bleak...
>>559710691I blame tamamo's rock breaking
>>559708678Nature is dumb and stupid and bad. It tries its hardest to kill me for a quarter of the year and cats use Daystar on my immune system every time I so much as see one.Also, vegetables are icky.
>>559711603Oh no?
foxed angelsfoxed monstersfoxed humans
angel elf fox
All must become fox
>>559715703A Succubus who takes in the Kitsune attribute loses the Earth X2 weakness, but Pleasure become neutral damage. All while getting X4 weakness to Holy.Hope she isn't going to be fighting a Priest or Angel enemy, she is going to lose pretty hard.
>>559711603hmmmmm?No
>>559711603
>>559647520Would Mary Sue and Black Alice get along?
>>559555596>>Paradox Part 3 and Rance X are currently the UNDEFEATED KINGS of vndbLITERALLY HOW??
it would be really funny if BA and heinrich had a bastard kid that not even heinrich knew about. I mean come on she put herself in his adventuring party for the shits and giggles it had to have crossed her mind at some point to get the hero to unknowingly impregnate a monster lord
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETSBUT ENOUGH TALKHAVE AT YOU!
>>559719402I wish Chaos BA found an AU where she and Heinrich did find happiness together, and steal this theoretical child, and have her join in on the festivities of Part 3.But it does seem like no one wants to touch that subject matter, not even Setouchi wants to make a BAxHeinrich child as a commission.
After this game we're playing against /1999/! We lost our last game due to some goddess doing everything wrong, but let's all believe in a good ending! https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleagueAlso, remember that if you want to manage the team(We really need a manager!), you're free to give it a chance. If you're scared by the blender side of things, I'll handle all of them.
>>559721457>But it does seem like no one wants to touch that subject matter>have a previous monster lord have an oblivious hero wrapped around her fingers>hint at it with a wink wink nudge nudge ufufufu>never actually do itwhy
>>559725946Because Chaos-chan is going to do it to troll the Henrich and B.Alice who join the group. She is going to tear a bunch of AU characters out of their world, and pop them into the Singularity World to make things more interesting.
https://files.catbox.moe/q3wdg5.pngThank you some guy from skeb, we now have crossover porn.(link is to full pic, it show Dodo sitting on Luka's face)
>>559727930Finally she found happiness...
>>559727930>>559727930You think Setouchi played Black Souls?
>>559725946>heroine having a child with another male character>not a preestablished milf to get away with itHeinrich might be a main character shipped with her but even with that you might as well ask for Dennis X Granberia to them.
>>559735324>Dennis X GranberiaNTA, but I kind of do actually. It's a shame it's also definitely not happening, since, well, Luka is Luka.
>>559735324B.Alice isn't marriageable, and the PC scenes are not canon. Why in the world are you comparing Gran and B.Alice?
>>559721457>not even Setouchi wants to make a BAxHeinrich child as a commission.Being fair, if I remember correctly that was one of a set of options in a request (other options being hypothetical Luka child with Alma or the other knights, some other characters, point is there was a few) and that was rejected. The eden daughter and Promestein daughter requests were initially rejected as well, wasn't until I tried again after seeing other daughter design requests that I tried again (with sending extra money with the request) that they got accepted. So it's possible he might be willing to do a Black Alice/Heinrich kid design request, if sent a bit more money than the default. Why he rejected doing a daughter design for his default amount of money, I'm not sure, not like a standing picture is more complicated than 2 people having sex, and he's done other standing picture type things for default price.Perhaps he is willing to do it for default price and his initial rejection was due to not being in the right mindset for it or something. Point is, it may well actually be possible.
>>559737043>B.Alice isn't marriageableLuka can marry his mom who has Marcellus, and there's been updates so the few marriage candidates aren't the only exclusive ones. Black Alice being an option in an update would be surprising but at the same time not.
>>559735324I don't know who Dennis is, but Granberia is for (Me).
>>559742220dennis is the guy that helps granberia get out of her depression and loss of purpose by trying to fight angels in order to protect people despite to weak to beat basic monstersseeing someone so insignificant be that honorable makes her realize that her crisis over conflicting loyalties and who to support or what to fight for from the conflict between worlds made her miss the point in the first place, which was "fight to protect people who can't protect themselves". he's the man Granberia deserves.
>>559704804>>559706887I miss Nightmare Anon.Shame a Nekomata finally got him...
>>559742552I see. Very good.
>>559750787She killed him with love, thoughtfulness and family, truly a cunning way to murder your enemy.
https://x.com/blackse/status/2030830413753839861>15 years since the original VNAny oldfags here who were here for that? Or at least, the translation of it?
>>559754781Yes. I was 12....is it truly today? Gods, time's flown by. And even after all of it, I still love her.
>>559754781Time sure does fly! It's still amazing to me I was able to finally finish Paradox('s main story) and exactly how I hoped I would, with the girls I truly came to love and care for. But I'll always be fond of the original story that started it all.
>>559704804>>559706887Nightmare anon was mentally unwell...
>>559754781Not one, but I still recall my first play through during 2016. God, I can still recall making hundreds of saves before each fight with a monster girl and making to save during the moment I could save in order to avoid bricking my game. The only time I stopped doing that was during the battle against Black Alice in her final mutated form in heaven. Some of her moves were still untranslated, and I had to rely on let's play that were on YouTube to figure out what was the right to avoid getting a game over. And I did get close losing or through I was about to lose, I fucking made a save and loaded it mid-fight and stared seeing the text get all fucked up.Playing the game so young fucked my taste for girls really hard. Great decision.
>>559754781My first playthrough was around 2015 on a hand-me-down machine when I was 12. It obliterated my chances at being normal like a tactical nuke. Honestly grateful.
>>559761519>Did this shit at the same age as meBig same. Can't say I regret it.
>>559754781The first screencap from July 2011.
>>559758857Nah it was a fun bit, like Angel Soldier Anon, the eternal chain of Voreanons, etc.
>>559754781I'll never forget that one day I saw Vanilla on the /v/ catalog. And the wait for part 3 finally pushed me into learning nip. It was quite amazing how the TL's came out so fast, unlike some others like Fate's UBW route. Ahh... I'm old now.
Men only want one thing and that is to fluff fox tails
Is there a tool or something for Paradox to manually flag certain quests as completed?
>>559772370Your only option would be getting rpgmaker, seeing what flag needs to be ticked off and creating an event that marks it as done.
>>559771476true
so what happens if you save male fox?
>>559779547
>>559779547His mama will be very grateful and might reward you with something nice.
>>559779547You get a bro who cooks like a chef and cleans like a maid
>>559779547Fox reveals she was a girl in disguise, and it was a test to see if you'd save her not because of her being a hot woman but because it's the right thing to do.
>>559694501>>559694747https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J97jn4C6ZY
>>559779547a boy is fine too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTnqY5O9IkM
https://youtu.be/_lbw8clUsO0?si=Ms9NU6lqoh74VF-G
>>559779368This is a known Kitsune trick, sometimes they play dumb and the long game by never transforming around you, I had a kitsune that did this to me for years, All she did was yelp and whine, but I saw through her act and spent the day raping her, a few days later she finally revealed to me her true form of a two tailed kitsune, it was weird though, we even had the same name at first, but I just called her Yuu instead
>>559787467rape is not a substantial foundation to build a relationship on anon
>>559787467I once caught one with the tails out and she just went with some absurd excuse and doubled and tripled down on it. About how she was this dude from hometown and there was actually this other fox that made her look this way, some ancient evil she accidentally unsealed. Really went out of her way to study the guy and even glued some fox ears on me while I was sleeping.Tricky little buggers those foxes, but I'm not falling for it.
>>559787467
male rape badfemale rape good
>>559779368>fox: is peacefully sleeping, not bothering anyone>human: "UOOOOOH I'M GONNA FLUFF THIS CREATURE UOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH"
>>559754781I'M OLD I'M FUCKING OLD
Just here to say that I'm more confident about beating Paradox 2 ultra fast now that I have crossed a lot through in Ghost Path due to OP items.So I think at Easy diff and the like it would be a breeze and I could check everything no issue.How far is the translation of Paradox Part 3 by the way? It would rise in the backlog accordignly.
>>559787467...Today I shall remind them?
>>559789598You need to find a girl like Hiruko.She has a boyfriend who has been alive for 1000 years being continuously regenerated and digested eternally.>>559791343We love Coloring Books here!And Cash Money.Not the Coffee one in Cyber Yamatai though, coffee is disgusting.
>>559791343Anons, you wouldn't name your kitsune daughter something like "chocolate milk" just for trolling purposes right? You'd give her a normal name that distinguishes her from those who were born regular foxes right?
>>559789832The AI/machine translation we got back when it came out was already extremely playable.Here, have this non-spoiler pocket castle exchange.The main thing it messes up are the occasional gendered language, and it calls Kanade (slime ancestor) all kinds of nonsense.We've memed to calling her one of the ice spells from Persona usually like Mabufuku.
>>559792081Of course not, Onahole.Why do you ask?
>>559792081Is that a name for a Kitsune or a Skunk Girl?
>>559791343Kingdom hearts 1.5 plus 2.5 reMIX is a funny name
>>559792778I heard the words Skunk Girl and I came back to life.
>>559793352It was only a joke.I do not want a skunk girl.
>>559793654>I do not want a skunk girl.What if we had Promestein alter her so her stink glands instead produce sweet pollen, like the kind alraunes can produce?
>>559794756I do not have a gas fetish.
>>559792226Sounds great then
>>559794989Well, that's why I was suggesting her glands be modified. How would you like them to be modified in order to address your issue?
>>559792226>from persona
>>559795520That's what most people would know it from.
>>559801626i could fix her...
>>559754781i think i found the game right after part 2 translation was finished
>>559792226>The main thing it messes up are the occasional gendered language, and it calls Kanade (slime ancestor) all kinds of nonsense.Prior to the recent versions, it also fucked up a bunch of triggers in the Third Route. Whenever a Change Location event triggered, it used to literally just send you to any random retarded location it felt like, which in some cases would softlock the game.This, thankfully, as far as I know, doesn't happen anymore, but if I put the fear of god into you, then you'll frequently make rolling saves like any normal person who plays any RPG at all.
>>559400032are you talking about Monster Girl Dreams?
>>559805670I never even bothered checking the update log. Did the story in the Capital get updated past that stupid fucking apartment complex puzzle?
>>559804362That sounds like some modding shit, not a translation matter.I don't even know what a "Change Location" event is except maybe you mean cutscene stuff but if that was causing problems, I feel like something else was the issue?
>>559801626She could ruin me...
>>559803157>>559806416Potato Succubus, she is a walking mass of contradictions.
You have to get on with the times, old men. No outdated robot girls, but superior program girls
>>559806313>That sounds like some modding shitBobMTL. It was someone basically running an MTL program over the entire game, and it changed a bunch of shit that it wasn't supposed to change.>I don't even know what a "Change Location" event isImagine posting in the RPG Maker Game general and knowing nothing about RPG Maker
>>559807270Didn't BobMTL add some random mods like his custom PC vendors and shit?
>>559807316No, that was a different anon. IIRC it was Tinyfixes Anon who added the QoL Mods, such as the crystal that healed and let you change around jobs as you wanted or the vendor room, and I think he just didn't feel like constantly re-adding them for each new version of the game before the golden route since he kept having to update them to be compatible.I miss him, the poor guy.
>>559806526>contradictionsnot really? She just knows how to hold a conversation with someone before eating them for the slightest fuck up the other too are too governed by their hungerlust to get even that far.
>>559805975no story updates in the most recent update, but some events were added including encounters with perpetua I haven't actually gotten to the capital yet in my save, so I don't know if what you're talking about was added in a previous update or not
>>559754781I was there, after seeing a screencap of Alice shouting "A bomb?!" with JC Denton edited in the corner. And I've been with MGQ ever since. For the kitsune semen jars, the monlab, the razor sharp muddy lizard feet, Erubetie's environmental powerpoint presentations, muskets, the great Part 2 drought, the initial lack of fanartists... Times have changed.
>>559518642>fox>fox, but rapistNo such thing. Not all rapists are foxes, but all foxes are rapists.
>>559822587more like HAGMAO
>>559823710Why are all these older-than-written-history hags so sensitive about their age anyway?I think it makes them hotter.
>>559754781I've been here since the 2nd chapter of the VN when that Ken Ashcorp song got a lot of popularityHad some friends in high school introduce me to it, had a group playthrough, and that's history
>>559707413>ZeldaAren’t Hylians humans, just with knife ears for one specific thing that doesn’t work anymore?They don’t even behave like elves.
>>559754781I played the game in 2013 give or take a year or two. I got tricked into playing it for the story. But I do enjoy a handful of the characters
>>559832338If they all looked like Link and Zelda, you could make the argument, but most of them are ugly as fuck. Like Skyward Sword made them out to be a bunch of mongoloids. Being the Goddess' chosen people means you will not look like a super model. Being a sand person would make you have a higher chance of that.
>>559832737Wrong
>>559831310>being raped 24/7 by every monster girl everone must imagine luka is happy
>>559825885>illias won't recognize her title as the "big mamma" of everyonethis is why she is a failure of a goddess
>>559835296Technically, Luka only had canonical sex with one person(or maybe not, since I decided to break the Hild's toaster heart by not doing it).
>>559835458>in paradox canonically only hild has lukaedhow far alice has fallen from assulting luka every couple of story beats their best scene was still that last one in act 2 before lukers arrived at the monster lord castle
>>559835458evaluations are canon btw
evaluations are illias talking to (you) the player and laughing at how bad you are. yes I used sylph as a crutch
>>559836030It means Paradox Alice is the true winner, since she can say without a shadow of the doubt, that OG Alice won, even if Luka marries someone else in Paradox.
>>559838035I haven't played the vn in years but i still feel like it would be wrong to pair luka with anyone other than alice. When I started paradox(and then played it and dropped it and played it again every couple of months) I chose alice for obvious reasons. I might be basic. something i remember from playing paradox is luka finding the remains/last remnants of his mom and having a heartfelt send-off. dunno how I feel about illias route reviving her and luka fucking her because its monster girl quest no girl is safe from shota cock not even his mom I should replay the vn i haven't read it since i was a teen
>>559837904lolias literally asks him if he still has evaluation meetings and the response is yes in game.
>>559838549Paradox Alice and Paradox Luka don't have anywhere near the chemistry they had in the VN. They are well adjusted people without any emotional baggage, and don't need to learn any lesson that the other can help guide them through.If it wasn't for the chaos apocalypse, both of them would probably never have met each other, while living a good, but boring life with their parents.
>>559838916alice never develops to part 3 levels of non dickishness she starts and stays at mid part 2 levels at most. in paradox
Alice made me drop original vn
>>559839056She has no reason to be anything else.Alice in Paradox was a super rich hikki, that left the world to just move on its own without her interfering at all since the Remina destruction didn't set off a species cold war.In all honesty, Paradox Alice probably should have acted even more bratty than usual, since she was a pretty spoiled kid.
I really wish KC still had consistent updates because I wanted more exposition on why the undead types tended to be bottomless and a bottomless monster girl is sexier than a fully naked one
>>559837103only in the original story, even then it took Paradox to confirm that and there's a number of people who weren't really fond of that either
>>559839651that's fair, but his setting is total garbage so just ignore everything he has to say since the art is the only part that's good
>>559838668NTA but It's actually a multiple choice question, there's three different answers and it's worth noting she asks you that only after you rescue Hans and are currently in the temple at the start of the game. You can tell her no, yes, or "I'm in your debt" the latter of which is the joke answer that makes her freak out due to the implication.
>>559839291Why?
>>559841782Clearly he prefers charcoal and piss.
actually why isn't nero a shota? luka's entire lineage are shotas on the male side. he should atleast be a manlet
>>559843924he's not a shota because Neris and Nero are young adults by the time we meet them it's been about 20 plus years on that side since Luka defeated IIias there.
>>559844084heinrich and marcellus are both shorties
are there any good horror monster girl games that aren't shikki? the first part of shrift was far more interesting to me than the rest of it I liked the cold open of being trapped in an overrun underground bunker and the notes scattered across the place detailing the attack on the bunker and the last thoughts of the people that died there. more shit like the dude that got tackled by a barghest and got away but the unexpected pleasure has been gnawing at him and he doesn't think he'll be able to keep away if/when he encounters the barghest again and apologizes to his wife and kids in his death note
>>559843924Alice gave the puberty suppression gene to the wrong child
>>559845163Yeah, she also suppressed Neris' tits too.
>>559845365And that's a good thing!
>>559795808And "most people" are wrong.
>>559839908>>559839651Yeah anon you know the answer is going to be some horny bullshit.
>>559845094I was going to make a joke about /mggg/ playing only four games, but in all fairness monster girl horror h-game is a very niche thing. Even including Shiki there's too little.Regular monsters raping human women is more common.
>>559845163cant have competition gotta keep neris' boobs small
>>559845851But the fact remains nonetheless.
>>559849117>>559795808>>559845851look let's not start a Persona/SMT war in this thread, poor Mikabu has nothing to do with that feud
>>559849405Mabufudyne ended up a boring girl anyway.
https://x.com/kyomu_no_uriba/status/2031193080947503293>Negotiation X Monster bugfixHuh?
>>559294964Eggs?
>>559845094It's niche and you run into myriad problems.>a lot of the niche is not very good quality, which tends to mean getting harassed a bit too>fag(s) start shilling other shit like someone I won't reference directly and use it as an excuse to spam and samefag themselvesBetter to just tag search dlsite
>>559849814Like I always said, TrTr neutered her by taking away her role of showing the utter hypocrisy of the MW, which was denying its most championed message of freedom by brining down a brutal law. Her counterpart Uriela was to the do the same for the AW.She might have been utterly hated along with Kanon and Hiruko, but she would have been far more interesting.
>>559851439>>559849814We love Mikabu, she has more fans than haters now so she won.
>>559851439Don't know if she would be utterly hated, it would really be up to TrTr on how graphic her executions would be, if even shown at all.Seeing her melt a bunch of people on screen would definitely make her pretty unlikeable, but if her ultra police state was only shown by a bunch of super paranoid citizens who act like they are being constantly watched, then she could avoid the bullet.Her letting her slimers be free without needing to constantly control them at the end would probably soften her up to the audience too, unlike her two shit sisters who didnt learn anything.
>>559852253Hiruko learned, she just has no self control on a literally genetic level due to her origins (thanks fatlice) so she's incapable of change without outside intervention as a result. The most she can do is just isolate herself and not kill the doordash guy when he shows up with her delivery.Kanon is the only one who genuinely didn't learn anything, other than "everyone hates me and thinks I'm an asshole".
>>559852478Not really, Hiruko still goes out of her way to antagonize people, and she is definitely not joking about her provocations either. Her talk with Kanade is her being an absolute shithead plain and simple.
>>559852814those three hate each other, sibling rivalries (or family feuds) aren't going to just go away overnight anon
>>559852478>The most she can do is just isolate herself and not kill the doordash guyGiven the thread, I think there's plenty of people here willing to throw in extra meat for Hiruko's pizza.
>>559852253It's interesting to think what TrTr originally wanted to do with her, and how he could have showcased her police state. One thing that really comes off as odd is just how massive the prison under Grand Noah is in the end product, but no prisoners. It was pretty clear that there was supposed to be something else besides the Twin Angels down there.On that note, people willing to live in a city where it's ruler would kill you for littering probably means that the Grand Noah region was a shitshow in the early development then what we got as well.
>>559854176
>>559388842Succubus Luka would be the only monster girl to get raped by men.
>>559854539It was supposed to be angels anon, that's why Eden is raiding these prisons.
>>559854539There was definitely an intervention point in development where they were like>Hey doesn't Makai suck a bit too much and Heaven not suck enough?Then they swapped Shikimamo's underground lair to Gabriella, and didn't even bother writing Mikabu's polce state.Once again, the fox dodges all accountability for her evil!
>>559856806>It was supposed to be angels anon, that's why Eden is raiding these prisons.What a coincidence then that Eden helps out with a prison up north.I also think Fallen Micaela was supposed to be Makai content and an actual character. Not just "mopey Micaela got weird looking after getting Lucifina's memories for motivation or something".
>>559856806I really don't think it was originally.It's just a lot of waste of space for something you don't see at all. You might even say the same for underground prisons of Yamatai as well. >>559857052AW has a lot of its really horrible shit in the monster profiles, never shown. Both AW and MW were obviously cut down, since a lot of the worldbuilding is in text. I wouldn't be surprised if humans were also being experimented on in Tamamo's laboratory too, since the Monster Train profile emphasis that human life was used to power the chu chu train.
>>559845094Afterschool Tag and Hospital Seduction, Muon.
What a horrifying creature who's loved me as my wife, cooked me meals, birthed and raised half a dozen of my children, and supported me for literally my entire adult life up to this point! I must now rally the villagers and drive this clearly evil youkai into the forest where she belongs!
>>559859276Anon! Wait! ANON! ANOOON!!!You forgot your pitchfork.
Luv me sum singers.
>>559838549The Paradox world and timeline are different enough that Luka getting with someone else shouldn't feel like robbery.>>559851439>Like I always said, TrTr neutered her by taking away her roleHow many Part 3 characters does this apply to?
>>559867026Paradox ending with Luka mass merging with his alternate selves would mean that in a majority of timelines he would be with Alice because of VN+Alice route timeline copies. Her only real competition after that is Hild because of Chaos chan>How many Part 3 characters does this apply to?These guys will say this about any character alluded to besides the puppet since no one predicted she'd become that major of a character.
>>559868135I wanted to see more from Saja...
>>559869079an ancestor so boring that the most interesting thing is her h scene straight up being confirmed to be the wild imagination of another IIias by TrTr meaningly even in story there wasn't a Luka that didn't lowdiff her but there were Lukas who lost to the other ancestors before. That's crazy, her whole personality is mommy's girl and not understanding her weirdo sisters enough to think Minagi's boast in a fight meant Minagi seriously wants to kill her I wonder if TrTr even expected the archangels to be as popular and liked as they ended up being compared to the ancestors especially since they've been in existence long before the archangels were even conceptualized. through I think the succ sister beat out other eden, gnois and zion in likability mainly because they got much more screen time and Morrigan got endeared to people cuz she's stupid and seems to have it for Luka through I think they're bugging and that's not true at all there's no proof of that imo
>>559859276>I must now rally the villagers and drive this clearly evil youkai into the forest where she belongs!>the succubus waiting in the forest after hearing a ton of villagers are heading into the forest.
>>559868135>my headcanon says Alice won more alt timelines than other much better girlsYet we don't see any alt Neros or Nerises running around, wonder why that is.
>>559869424>straight up being confirmedFor me, it's genuinely wondering why people in this thread thought that Saja, who was acting like a bleached-blonde NTR dude from a shitty doujin, would actually act like that all of a sudden and record a video
>>559869424How would we describe this as going down anyway?>Hiruko>[huge power gap]>Koron>Archangels>Kanon, Minagi>[small power gap]>Kanade, SajaTamamo and Micaela excluded due to not being newly debuted characters.
Any good game where the man is on the offensive? I'm sick of practically 99% monmusu game being femdom rape.
>>559869832that image always makes me laugh since Koron literally showed up for like few minutes but was still more likeable than half the ancestors
>>559869861>Any good game where the man is on the offensive?By definition, no.The hggg might have recommendations though.
>>559869861I hear Dreams has maldom as does the black souls series and perhaps sequel series through that could be a lie, all the scenes I've been exposed to from that series are kinda lovy femdom where they aren't malicious or trying to turn the guy into dried fish, they're just so horny and in love with him they can't help but in their words "make a mess out of him"
>>559869436Same reason there's no Chaos Ilias or Koron in the final dungeon. Chaos is too much of a pussy to bring a chaosifed monster that can one tap her with that buff to the unified world. No the calamity version doesn't count.
>>559869970Relatively unique design helps a lot.I would say Uriela has similar charm points, but Angel designs are always going to suffer from being too "normal". Also xelvy.Hiruko is just the exception that proves the rule, and is obviously popular due to all the horror elements not readily visible in her appearance.
>>559870113Or it's just since they're all palette swaps, they felt it'd be a bit much to bring in palette swap Calamities and palette swap Route Final Bosses.With *Calamity extending to anyone who is a 3rd route boss. Like I don't think there's reskin Lucia or Lily super forms? Aren't they fightable? Is there reskin white kitsune or that spider?
>>559869970>first introduced as a traveling dragonkin just waiting for Hero Luka>Immediately joins the party for their showdown with the first calamity they fought, the one who apparently murdered her world's fat alice and IIias easily and wasn't afraid to fight Lucifina and in fact despite teaming with her son,her sister, her husband and the current day monster lord at full power they were no match for her.>Now stronger than before that and fighting 15 to 1 they're still barely keeping even with her>Luka is about to use his bankai again when Koron stops him and one shots the foe while advising Luka not to lean into that power or he'll lose himself and leaves.When we finally learn who she really was she casually enters the scene almost joyful despite how tense everyone is, all six ancestors attack her immediately and she instantly beats all of them in one attack that would have killed them all had Minagi not barely deflected it.Despite everyone thinking they're going to die here she puts her weapons away, drops her official challenge and leave the scene just as casually as she entered it leaving her defeated foes shaken but alive.Despite her status, Koron has yet to cause any trouble in this world and despite her end goal she's managed to help it more than harm it by helping defeat not Galactus, had she not accepted the invitation the party would of been wiped out.Even after all of that it's still crazy to me that the 3 fakers are the last of the calamities we defeat yet all three are barely characters they're bad ending versions of existing characters and they weren't mighty enough to fight half a party where as Koron could fight the full party AND the six ancestors at once.
>>559870546>Even after all of that it's still crazy to me that the 3 fakers are the last of the calamities we defeat yet all three are barely characters they're bad ending versions of existing characters and they weren't mighty enough to fight half a partyBecause they literally wanted to copy FF6... so they turned Ilias and Fat Alice into a trio using Black Alice and literally gave them all FF6 boss designs. A dungeon where you split the party into 3 and take down each of them.They were going for the reference vibes over the "shilling power level" vibes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDbr6_WtEEThis one is Black Alice's.
>>559870458Pretty much every enemy has a palatte swap in the 3rd route excluding the 3rd route enemies even including the final tartarus first visit enemies. However there's an exception that Giganto Weapon and Nephilim Weapon don't have palette swaps either and those two gameplaywise are as strong as Holdsback Goddesses which makes it seem like a power level decision that ultimately there's no palette swap stronger than HK/Seraph level
>>559870940Like it was obviously done as an excuse for recruitment farming purposes first and foremost.Rather than having enemies who literally just die to any given random effect and being a pain in the ass to change races, passives, items, etc over.
>>559871069I mean yeah it is a mechanic first and foremost for missed characters, but the inclusion of random Chaos Granberia doesn't fulfill that purpose and is just being there for rule of cool.
>>559869861I have never in my life seen maledom be any good in any H-game
>>559871504As we kind of had with the palette swap elemental spirits though, those encounters are made to dole out crafting materials.
>>559869861Do battlefuck games count?
the update will SAVE Calamity with super interesting characterization and give us another ride in the sisters' dryfishing tour. can't let those unused sprites go to waste.
>>559871585because maldom only has one flavor, mating press, femdom has many flavors, bully you with their mouth, their breasts, their hands, their feet, their thighs, their words, their armpits, their hair, their assholes, their pussies even just rubbing and grinding against you not letting you put it in.there's so many ways to play with guys from a female POV be it malicious teasing or affectionate bullying where as on the other side it's just mating press plap plap plap while they go ahego and make double peace scenes, either that or the full nelson fuck.
>>559869861Run a solo Labyrinthus homebrew campaign.
>>559871775>because maldom only has one flavor, mating pressMaledom has more flavors. They just have 0 appeal to male audiences.
>>559871775vanilla is maledom
all this talk about sex is making me horny and a bit sad because I'll never have sex, I don't have the mentally for it.
>>559869861Off the top of my head: Succ affec, FoBS, MGD, Crimson keep.
>>559875413isn't succubus affection a pixel game? what's crimsom keep? FoBS i feel like I know but not really oh and there's also the Re:BF games the creator hates our guts tho and foreigners in general but specifically us. it even had a paradox collab or is in the process of one through i can't imagine a ReBF protagonist being about to out fuck a monster girl quest character given they're the breed of "you're done for if you stick it in"
>>559875598>Re:BF games the creator hates our guts tho and foreigners in generalhe literally sold his translated game on steam, I don't think he's still on the do not refuse the message phase of his life
>>559869861https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVCnkjr1GE
>>559875598Novissa is such a broken character I believe that guy asked Trtr to make him as broken as Part 2 allowed, and if he was allowed to say it he'd say Novi would outfuck Minagi.
>>559871775To be fair, if you really wanted to be reductive, femdom is usually just as one note with all the pathetic quickshot virgin shotas and stuff. For one, the vast majority of vanilla porn at least leans towards maledom. I'm not usually interested in male MC maledom games so I can't think of many examples, but I remember Mesugaki Train having a mix of maledom scenes that were more than just "uoh brat correction" or "PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT". It's not a monster girl game in anything but technicality, but slightly over half of the scenes are mesugaki femdom in case anyone's interested in it. I personally really enjoyed it, maledom scenes included.>>559872431>They just have 0 appeal to male audiences.Aren't female MC maledom games by far the most popular h games in general? There's also plenty of various kinds of male MC maledom games too. It's only in monster girl games general that femdom makes up very nearly 100% on the genre regardless of the MC's gender.>>559845094Succubus Prison is probably the closest thing to what you're asking for. Setalia the Demon Realm and Seal of Lutellaria might be up your alley too, they have some fairly spooky monster girl designs. The MC is a futanari in both of these though, most people here don't seem to like non-male MC games so YMMVI can't really think of anything else that's actually horrifying like the example you mentioned off the top of my head. Maybe Monster Girl Labyrinth is, but I haven't actually played it yet. All I know about it is that it has one of the most horrible endings I've seen in an eroge, especially in an ending where you're supposed to have won.Since I already brought up the topic of off-topic games, you might enjoy Nightmare School~Lost Girls~. It's about being stuck in a school full of small, spooky, and possibly eldritch schoolgirls.
>>559876267Are you sure you're thinking of him and not the girl who looks like Morrigan a bit, at least in haughty attitude? I don't remember her name she and he are the ones in the inn during the festival being lovey dovey and if you bring Sonya with you she immediately tries it herself but is too forceful and burns Luka, then intensionally shoves spicy oniguri in his mouth because he pissed her off in his typical way.Is it weird to think the part where they try to buy masks and Sonya says she already has one was a subtle nod at her mask she has when she's Sonya Chaos mode? in fact, why is it that sonya merges with her chaos counterpart and they're basically one in the same while the other counterparts straight up despise each other? Reaper and White Rabbit hate theres while there's no real opinon from aldram and Cleo because Cleo is dead by the time you get the chance to recruit Adra, for a while Adra was the face of Paradox yet she matters very little to the overall narrative in the end, I wish we could of interacted with her more
>>559875598>isn't succubus affection a pixel game?It is and so is FoBS - both side scrollers. FoBS is one of the old originals and still one of my favorites because of how esoteric it is. Not a single word of dialogue or exposition, pure figure-it-out-yourself gameplay, I love it. Crimson keep is just a WEG that I remembered all of a sudden.
>>559876602I'm not sure which collab girl that is, but I do mean the blonde mute is broken. If he gets to crisis not only does he have a +1% damage to sword skills but his unique buff for +50% attack and +1 sword skill? Even if you don't like crisis his accessory being +40% HP+Atk and Boss Resist is just better than anything else the game throws at you until the Chaos Route besides the gift accessories.
>>559845094Castle of Temptation starts off silly but you soon notice that something's very wrong and it finally gets pretty dark on the true route.
>>559869861Desire Dungeon's a pretty good one. It's half and half on maledom and femdom scenes.Monster Girl Encounters has a little maledom too. It looks like it's finished now and the fairies are finally fuckable. I somehow managed to break the game and give myself practically infinite money. I think it had something to do with items that manipulate inventory slots?
>>559867026>How many Part 3 characters does this apply to?Kanade is that character that we can say without a shadow of a doubt that her role was stripped down because we have proof that straight up says it happened. People like to say that her pre-release profile is just propaganda, but it would cover a theme that is pretty on the nose. She and Uriela both rule the same city, they end up as rivals in the merged world, they would have been odd leaders of there world because they follow their enemies faction's philosophy. Why TrTr decided to change MW Grand Noah into a resort from a police state is a really strange shift, because even under the current build, it wouldn't have been that hard to implement into the story.
>>559881001>Desire DungeonI can second that, that's the game that got me into monster girls
>>559869861black souls
>>559849814>>559854176>>559857052Shikies in sweaters look so soft and comfy!I just want to hug them...
>>559887879Some girls cannot understand sweaters
>>559888107Her tits were too powerful for that poor sweater...
>>559887879They will welcome a hug anon, all of them. Mayhaps they will never want to let you go...for the rest of your life.
>>559888274Some women are too powerful for the sweater to contain
I don't like snuff
I really love snuff
I want to see a comedic H-game where its a war between shiki succs and their bullshit power levels vs the typical femc h-game rapists where they stick their dick in the femc and she immediately becomes a crying orgasiming mess because thats totally how it works. immovable object vs unstoppable force
>>559891309i think it just turns into normal lovey dovey sex battle to see who tires out first
>>559891309It just falls down to author.Or else Shikis win because they do also dryfish generic h-media rapists. It was literally one of the doujin premises. Guy rapes girl, tells her crying self to pay for her own abortion, then Shiki girl plays possom and dryfishes him.
>>559891309>no buck breaking game were we force human/angel/monster girl watch as break the buck
>>559891309>>559892081Yeah, Myusca is kind of specialist at this, in Succubus Prison she barely rubs her panties against a typical H-game protag stand-in's dick and gets him to the point of exhaustion. In her ending, she proceeds to eat three dudes in a single session and is still hungry for a fourth (not discounting she fucking eats 3 people during the main story if the protag fails to escape). We need a premium rapist like Rance if we want a serious contest.Or maybe we need a female rapist protag? Has Shiki actually dryfished a woman?
>>559870059Dreams has just about as much maledom scenes as femdom scenes but the femdom scenes are a lot longeror maybe more precisely defeat scenes are a lot longerWhat maledom is there is pretty good though
>>559893496why is she such a glutton
>>559881258>Why TrTr decided to change MW Grand Noah into a resort from a police state is a really strange shiftPerhaps it was due to thematic overlap with Sabasa?
FUCKNow I remember I had a Desire Dungeon save really close to winning.I'm gonna have to redo it all.Does anyone know how the requirements for personal endings work again? I was on the fence between the Dragon girl and the Angel.
>>559897132If I recall you have to get all their scenes.That means lose twice and win twice, one per lust.If you've done this with multiple girls, you get the ending of the one who had sex with you the most times or at random.
>>559896124Succubus Prison succs have to eat to maintain their forms or they will become lolis like Myusca's older sister Vinum (and presumably less powerful as well, Vinum is just very ancient). That and Myusca doesn't give a shit about discretion or subtlety. Vinum was her only leash, but Myusca moves out in her ending. She's also the youngest of the trio, so is more of an immature brat as well.
>>559897385Doesn't losing twice cause you to get a debuff in subsequent battles? Or does the ''count'' stays even if you ask the Priest to erase the memory?
>>559881001>Monster Girl EncountersI was just playing this but I just got to the sphinx and the game seems to be broken, an animation is playing but no progress is being made on anything and there's no animations on my inventory to indicate they are being pumped, she was marked as an elite enemy which I hadn't seen before that point so am I just missing something here?
>>559897921I don't remember that much. I only remember it making it very annoying to get the ending for the mimic.
>>559898212Well the next (different) elite enemy after I restarted worked fine so fucked if I know
>>559887879god i wish there are cg of silk and cotten with sweater paizuri under clothes there design are so hot in lewd lullaby
Why are monster girls like this?
>>559891309on the top of my head i think grimm can do it he tank being drain fished by victoria and a undead demigod created with potent bullshit power only if he beat the shit out of the shiki and extreamely piss
>>559897013The most popular theory is TrTr made the factions too irredeemably, so he softened them up by reducing the evil that you actually experience.Kanade might have been the most blatant change, but Minagi's pre-release profile was also pretty sinister sounding.
>>559893496literally made by leaf to be as evil as her because she both a massochist who enjoyed being choked to death .
>>559900283Actually, it's because Jabberwock turned her soul black, and now she sees betrayal as the ultimate form of love. When she makes Grimm suffer is her way of expressing love.Leaf is very lenient with Grimm, though,as long as she gets to keep him with her in the end. Marry her one, choke her to death or sell her engagement ring to the rabbit right next to her and marry a different girl, either is fine with her. She wasn't exactly joking when she said Grimm is free.
>>559900083I doubt it's that popular with anyone aside from the guy obsessed with the ci-en profiles and relationship charts.
>>559899853i feel like grimm vs a shiki would play out like his sho "rape". which by the way is a really funny read because he's desperately trying to convince you_/himself the usual monologue of "i'm so cool and powerful my cock is the best" that the rapes usually have while he is actively disintegrating from the slime and experiencing the most painful death ever
>>559901514>hey bro your free to do whatever>but i wrote it so that whoever you get close to dies in some le tragic twist of fate haha> also you aren't really free because i'm just gonna loop you after the ending because your basically just a doll set for me to play with
>>559899683RIMWORLD MENTIONED
>>559903467Due him recently free of TCO influence and Lewis voice decided to take a backseat it seem that Andersen voice has become more active as a result he has a very bad sperge out When encounter a succubus as In all of the choices make him wanted to killed them with his bare hand
>>559891309Only humanity's strongest stand a chance...
>>559897663>Succubus Prison succs have to eat to maintain their forms or they will become ugly and lose their magic>Myusca's grandmother, VinumFTFY
>>559908768>humanity's strongest>big tentacle monsteranon...they've already infiltrated the team by Setouchi.
>>559913439Worm Summoners are a human only race choice. Tentacle rape is in humanities' blood, but we have just forgotten it.
>>559889201That sweater looks like it could dryfish me by itself.
>>559856664>Succubus Luka would be the only monster girl to get raped by men.What about Kitsune Luka?
>>559921336Just as weak to pleasure but she initiates every sexual encounter so even though it always ends in her getting dommed, technically not rape.
>>559921336The SHRIFT girls would mistake her for Daji and get scared.
>>559921336My wife, Doppel, with fox ears and tails
>>559921336>gets bullied by lamias
>>559870940>However there's an exception that Giganto Weapon and Nephilim Weapon don't have palette swaps either Wrong.
>>559921336>putting your dick near a foxAw hell no, that's obviously a trap. Just look at that pale, shambling dude, gotta be some zombie infection type shit.
>>559870940>>559934950NTA but I'd also like to point out in addition to that there's recolors of Adramelek, Sonya Chaos, Reaper, White Rabbit (or at least variants of her) and Marcellus; the former two especially are the original final bosses and SIGNIFICANTLY more powerful than any of the 4HK. Both are world-ending calamities due to the system reconstructing them to be stronger and stronger each time their current 'minimum' level of power proves insufficient for the task, and after being driven off a single time Adramelek's new 'minimum' is already enough to delete entire timelines as shown by the third Tartarus. The only thing that changes is just how long it actually takes them to end the world, and by the time Sonya Chaos manifests that time is shortened from months or days to mere minutes. And it should be reaffirmed that Luka canonically never manages to defeat her in Part Two on his own; the only reason they get an out is either Nuruko pulling a reset or (what I find more narratively powerful) Luka's fight with Sonya managing to reawaken her human will just long enough for her to turn on Adramelek and kill both them and herself in order to give them all more time.Enemy stats ultimately aren't a good indication of how strong something's canonically intended to be vs how strong it actually FEELS like it is. It's simply one of the biggest forms of ludonarrative dissonance, as people usually go for how something actually ends up being presenting through experience and not what they're told. Hence you being able to turn Your Chosen Wife into a chaos-obliterating machine who can shred through calamities in the blink of an eye when 'canonically' that's probably not supposed to happen.Or at least not at this point, after trtr tried to railroad every player's party into a predetermined arrangement and derail the original selling point of the game. But screw that, if My Wife can solo everything then she solos everything! Simple as!
>>559937118Depends on when they would fight the HK4.Marcellus and those other goofs would have had trouble with any of the Ancestors, which Granberria, Alma, and Erubetie become as strong by the end of the Decision routes.
>>559937465Learn super strong attack, is now considered equal to the city destroying monsters. At least Erubetie had the Kanade crutch cells to explain her leap in power.
>>559937465>>559938385Erubetie's case is unclear, but she's probably one of the best examples of the narrative dissonance in the game because you just never see her do anything close to warranting that. She eats 90% of the roach population but that's prior to her assimilating the cells properly and while she supposedly pulled a suicide move to kill the entire singularity world it's never really elaborated how long that took or the process behind it, just that she eventually 'covered' it and it inflicted even more damage on her already very tenuous mental state. You also kill her in the route you're not allied with her on and she melts away into the floor. Meanwhile Alma and Granberia were both killed in their fights and vastly outmatched in them, they were far from being "as strong as" the ancestors. They're clearly underdog moments, and not dramatic power leaps that suddenly put them on equal footing.I thought that was always really obvious, to be honest, because that's literally the entire joke about AW!Eden killing Hiruko that one time in a similar underdog moment and then proceeding to never shut up about it and constantly hold it over Hiruko's head. To Hiruko's never ending (extremely and gloriously wonderful) dismay. AW!Eden's clearly not on the same level as Hiruko given how the fight goes when she doesn't manage to trick her into eating her and then uses that to kill them both (she's swiftly overwhelmed and killed by the clones), but her still managing to kill her legitimately at least once despite the power gap is still an impressive accomplishment. She's just not very humble about it.
>>559940797Tamamo can take over an entire kingdom by horny hypnosis, and apparently she is only 2nd to Minagi when it comes to this kind of power. The entire thing can be circumvented by a couple of low tier anti-charm accessories acquired by the mafia. Plot is more important than trying to make the power levels make any sense. I mean, Grangold King can wipe out a entire battalion of monsters with just a wave of his hand when he still has a conscience, he really should have taken over the entire continent without any problem while a walking killing machine.
>>559937118>who can shred through calamities in the blink of an eye when 'canonically' that's probably not supposed to happen.That is supposed to happen albeit in the NG+ mode. The characters are canonically getting stronger even if they're the lowest tier like sealed Ilias.Trtr does a bunch of bullshit to make bosses feel more powerful, Reaper for a Part 1 boss was supposed to oneshot your team if you fought her back then. Yeah you can come back after the collab and instakill her with collabs or Sorcery, but he wouldn't design these bosses and the open world segment to be bullshit if he wasn't trying to send some message about them being strong. He didn't design the game around autists that would beat Reaper with only Part 1 characters or anyone who would beat the Weapons without priority status/timestop abuse on their first route. Sure looking at pure HP/Attack stat is a bit dumb, but Trtr is trying to make some message with the Superbosses at least until Part 2/3/4(yeah Chaos route) powercreep made them redundant besides making Sphinx around Queen level which is where she's supposed to be
>>559941784Its pretty funny now that I think about it. Grangold King did show more amazing feats on screen than the other 95% of the cast. We just have to take the power level insanity at face value for most of the game.
>>559942418I don't think the open world segment or the bosses are bullshit, honestly.I'm just saying that using things like proofmaxxing or Crisis Cheese is not indicative of what trtr's intended experience (and also the intended canon) are. I didn't do either of those things, but I also don't think making a team almost entirely of Part 1 or 2 girls and managing to beat the entire game with them is also indicative of the 'canon'.I am still very happy and proud of the girls anyway. The battles were a total blast and it was definitely an extremely fun and unforgettable experience. Also infinite multiverses mean what they did is canon anyway it's just not the singularity timeline and therefore they still did it so it's just a matter of keeping the two separate.I think you get my point though, yes there's clearly an intent with the power structure, hence my point about how Sonya Chaos is far beyond what Luka could do when he fought her no matter how well you actually did in the fight, and the superboss Monster Girls being undeniably ancient and powerful individuals who earned their positions, all I'm saying is sometimes some players will just ignore this if the fight doesn't live up to the hype, even if that's entirely their own fault for using cheese strategies.
>>559943987When TrTr can't balance his post game content around the mechanics he himself programmed, he takes a nerf stick, and beats the meta game strategy to death with it.What he nerfs to the ground is really up in the air, since he himself wanted the big numbers with all the extra crap he hands you in the Chaos route.
>>559941784>>559943126They're actually rarer and higher-end at that point in the game (the low-tier versions only give you some resistance to it, 75%/50% etc, not immunity and they don't give you enough for the full party either) and it doesn't really mean much if you brainwash the guy before he gets to put it on anyway. Like how 90% of human adventures only ever get to the tier one jobs, the average person just has no defense against it and wouldn't even be able to afford those items. Grangold King WAS taking over the entire continent without much pushback, too (he just casually obliterates pretty much an entire platoon of soldiers on his own) which is why the entire mission was trying to sneak behind his lines and drawn him out so you could avoid fighting him. This only fails because he's either signaled by MW!Tamamo that you arrived or so freakishly powerful that he managed to detect the invasion anyway and went back on his own. It's also why he was the only one who could have Magus King at the time and balanced around it. It just takes time to actually conquer an entire continent. But he was going to do it if you didn't intervene.>>559944492alasI just wish more people didn't use the cheese strategies I guess, since I do think the fights are just really really fun when you fight them as intended, but I can't really fault them for doing so due to trtr completely bricking the original meta defense strategy and then forcing people to either find new ways to survive or just turn the whole game into OHKO-Tag. Part 1 and 2 were perfectly fine at least.
>>559943987I get it but player stats mean something entirely different than enemy stats if we're discussing powerlevels. Like even if the two never interact there's a funny mention how Singularity was made to beat Star Eater but is outstat super hard. It's a different take than complaining about the ludonarrative dissonance about oneshotting everything. It's somewhat the point about Giganto/Nephilim since they're superbosses with no plot relevance there's not much to say besides maybe take the stats at facevalue and place them around early Chaos route enemies.
>>559945178my original point was just that the idea that the none of the recolors were stronger than the knights wasn't true, irrelevant of those two, and those two at full power are also clearly stronger than the knights.
>>559945178i think the idea is that we can't really know how well singularity would fare in that fight because the stats wouldn't be indicative of how trtr would actually write that. the star eater shows up late in the plot for dramatic effect and so koron can kill her as part of her set-up, and singularity only exists to further set up star eater and the battlefield for that fight in the first place. so singularity is just scaled for early chaos route because star eater isn't supposed to show up until the end, and enemies are scaled generally in the order trtr intended you to fight them and not solely the power level.
>>559945178If we are talking about a theoretical HK4 vs super weapons at 100% of their power, then the Super weapons would wreck all of them story wise. By the time Luka and gang find the laboratory born weirdoes walking around in Tartarus, he defeated all the HK4s, and he was warned not to fight these super weapons because they are out of his league.>>559947857Singularity says she has a weapon that can blow a giant hole through the Earth, and probably make it into a doughnut. She could be just kidding, but that probably puts her way above the two idiot goddesses if she means it.
>>559947857It's a mix of both but yes that's part of my point. There's clearly a difference between bosses, superbosses and regular enemies, but above all else the battles in the game are stated around when you were supposed to fight them and how strong you're intended to be by the point you fight them. It's very easy to compare, say, all the things in Parts 1 and 2 since they're all stated around each other and the level cap in a very simple manner, but the final route's non-linearity can throw it out the window and lead to this kind of problem due to how much things scale by that point in time.>>559948198Even in the original VN Tamamo's wary of the thing, it's just out of practice due to time. Giganto in it's prime would kick all of their teeth in.>Singularity says she has a weapon that can blow a giant hole through the Earthshe's probably not joking about that given some of her attacks and the seriousness of her quarry; she would require that kind of weaponry if she's fighting something that Dumb and Dumber could only annoy away back in the day.
>I could restart paradox from part fucking 1 on my laptop>or wait a couple months till I can get acess to my desktop again which has an old part 2 saveI got as far as the fishy pirates and i killed leviathan. I remember trying to pokemon catch them all but i don't know how far i actually went with that, I remember the game being a big GRIND
Love my wife, Granberia!
>>559954709>i killed leviathan>I remember the game being a big GRINDYou killed a superboss... You killed enough things that you fought someone that you shouldn't have fought for about another 10 hours of gameplay.
>>559956095i actually don't remember if I killed her but i do remember trying to fight her and i remember abusing time magic because i thought it was strong
>>559957334i will have to check later if she's dead or not.
Two Types of Pleasure: Victory and DefeatThis game offers two types of H-scenes for every monster, not just boss characters, depending on the situation.Defeat H-Scene (Passive): The monster takes the lead, sucking your energy out of you with relentless caresses (non-penetrative) and teasing.Victory H-Scene (Active): After defeating a monster, you penetrate it yourself and punish it with intense sex as a reward.From weak monsters to bosses, it’s up to the player to decide whether to lose and be toyed with, or win and destroy them.
>>559900283to be fair having your mom be a lovecraftian god has its perks. yes all of blacksouls is incest even before 2 if you consider the stories writers the parents of the stories.
>>559869832:O
ded gemded thred
>>559904396i liek rimworld
Does anyone have Ilias claiming she's 14 while mentioning Tamamo etcs ages?
>>559962304the hell are you talking about schizo?
>>559988408It looks like a copypasted description of RJ01543868.
>>559987405This one?
The ArzorX translation is going to take 3+ years at this rate...
>>559990059Exactly! Thanks!
>>559898212That's what happened when my game broke and I got infinite numbers. It unfreezes if you give it a minute or two.
>>559962304>After defeating a monster, you penetrate it yourself and punish it with intense sex as a reward.Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
>>559999203My numbers weren't high at all though, but the run I just did they sure suddenly got absurd at the last couple steps to the point I was seeing like 15 digit numbers to the power of 15, and it was a very very sudden jumpStill need to do at least one more run to see the goblin innkeeper though
>>559999575>kid, in this world its rape or be raped
>>559999575How many men do you think she fucked?It's kind of funny how these rapists seems to only want to make Luka a sex slave too.
>>560001378My sources say dozens
>>560001378Luka likes the rape and even seeks it. He loves the rapists for who they are.
>>560002012Luka would be one of those liberal, ban murder rape types, but turn reactionary when they try and ban rape altogether.
what's even the point of raping the losers for those monster girls that don't have drain powers or kidnap the guy to be their husband
>>560002370it feels good
>>560002409ok fair
>>560002596you should try itit's good fun
>>559999575So would this person go to Sabasa jail? What is the punishment for over a dozen rape charges? With banditry, assault, and public nuisance charges on top of it?
>>560002370even without ENAJII DOREIN practically all monstergirls consume semen outright with their lower mouths, with some stealing a modicum of life force along with it despite it not being exactly the same technique
>>560002370Semen is monster food.>>560002409Funny thing is, most of the time it doesn't. The only girl confirmed to cum while raping Luka is Alice (proof: Nero and Neris).Hild is a robot, so doesn't count.Cupid seems to enjoy it, but she's one of those rare exceptions.
>>560003328>>560004941ye but why wouldn't you just kidnap someone for infinite fooddoes semen from domesticated humans taste worse
>>560004941you don't have any proof they don't enjoy it, not every girl has to have a braindead looking ahego face to like having sex anon
>>560005290>Kidnap a guy for infinite food.This is dumb. You'll have to satisfy the guy's needs (the most basic being water, food, shelter and headpats), while protecting him from other thirsty monster girls. Don't forget to keep an eye on him or he'll run away.While humans in the wild are easy prey. They tend to live in the same place for years. They provide for themselves. And you can raid their villages every couple of days to find their balls full again. Now, THAT is infinite food.While some monster girls may get away with it because they're cute and manage to deceive thy guy with "marriage" *ACHEM* foxes *ACHEM*, it's just not feasible for most.
>>560006146>not every girl has to have a braindead looking ahego face to like having sex anonAre you sure?
>>559787467Mine still hasn't revealed her true form but I kinda got used to it.
>>560012690Don't give up anon, she'll surrender sooner or later
Hear me out.If Ilias created the angels in Her own image, and said angels are weak to pleasure, does that mean that Ilias herself is weak to pleasure?We need to test this.
>>560011483Yes. ahego is just a fetish thing, for girls who are overly stimulated by sex or weak to pleasure.Which is perfectly fine, I'd like to be clear, I understand why it's popular, but just because a girl lacks the ahego face doesn't mean they don't enjoy sex or can't feel pleasure from intercourse itself, they just aren't getting turned into a drooling mess by it.the washing machine made me chuckle though
>>560002370they don't want you to know this but human males are free semen dispensers. I have 15 of them in my basement
>>560026516Based Shikimamo
>>560005290isn't that literally what succubus village was doing treating humen like cattle?
I was able to finally fully awaken Okyuu, unlocking her bonus ability and bringing her to full power!The bonus is small admittedly (a +10% Damage Buff for her Tentacles) but it's just really nice to be able to do it, since I think she's more than earned the right. She's just neat. The alien events just giving dump trucks worth of the medals to do so once you're not doing them for the first time anymore is very very helpful as well.
>>560005290>why wouldn't you just kidnap someone for infinite foodIt's worth remembering that in the original world, where Monster/Human relations were significantly more strained and hostile, this is something that often happens with the more aggressive Monster Girls: if Luka loses to them, they will kidnap him and keep him captive as a 'semen slave', with treatment ranging from "husband who isn't allowed to leave" to "glorified vending machine" depending on the individual. That being said the chances of the Monster Girl doing this seems to also depend on the quality, so it's not that it tastes worse if they do it, it's that they usually only do it if they like the man('s taste) in the first place.In Paradox due to Coexistence having pretty much happened already this is much, much less common there, but it still happens sometimes with the feral/wild Monster Girls who can't/won't live in civilized society. Some of the Monster Girls who did originally do it will even now inform you that they'll just suck the man for food and then drop him off at a nearby town so he won't die.>>560030368The difference is that the Human Men who are there participating in that are doing so willingly, and in fact ASKED for it, instead of being forcibly kidnapped and held hostage for this purpose. This is the reason why Luka and Alice got so disappointed with the place in the original world, IIRC, since the men are actually part of the reason it turned into what it's like now and it's not solely the Succubi's fault. This is also why it happened again in Paradox since the village tended to attract perverts in general due to the name. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the male immigrants came from Pornof.>damn perverts.
you know if the solution to succubus village was always just offering free sex why didn't they just do this in the first place. Why the need to have luka come in and "solve" the coexistence. Why not just do this beforehand it seems obvious
Does anyone have that image set of the NEET bat monster girl that plays a guy’s new vidya before he can get to it? It was cute.
>>560032220Kemonokko Tsuushin ~Koumori Musume Vivi~
>>560031896>in fact asked for it
>>560005290>>560026516>she doesn't use free range human farming methodsBarbaric.
>>560032547>tfw no stinky sweaty NEET bat gf to play my vidya and cuddle with meYeah… it’s over…
>>560032050IIRC the order of events for the original world was that the Succubi living in Succubus Village felt oppressed and shunned specifically because they are Succubi, and thus have the particular scorn of Ilias and her faith, and they are ESPECIALLY hated by human women, and they generally just don't get along even with other Monster Girls, so they were trying to make their own little safe haven where they could live in peace.The rumor of the Sabbath was that Succubi would flock to the village during it to rape all the inhabitants, causing most of them to flee, but also causing a lot of (men) perverts to show up specifically in the hope that they would all get raped. However in truth it's just a spell used by the few senior Succubi living there to turn the women present into more Succubi; given the specific mention of human women really hating them all it's likely done in the hopes that it'll one day allow them all to live without needing to hide who they are. Them trying to resurrect Lilith and Lilim was out of the desire to finally have a savior who could grant them the haven they wanted and protect it, which Luka swiftly puts to an end, and after sealing/defeating all the Succubi present he goes to tend to the men. Alice attempts to use her magic to heal the men, but due to her being so powerful she accidentally unseals and heals all the Succubi as well.The Succubi then explain the situation to them in full and also surrender, no longer having the will to fight, because they know they'll lose again. All they ask is that they get the chance to just live in peace and they won't bother anyone anymore if they get that.And it's at that point all the perverts who went there specifically to get raped pipe up and just say they'd be happy to coexist with them if they can all have sex and be raped and they eagerly agree to live as "human livestock", which is what causes Luka and Alice to become disappointed and just quietly leave without further comment.
>>560034819It's always been odd to me that there was a particular plot point in MGQ that succubi are the most opressed group and like GAMERS they need to rise up. Despite having all of the powers to just disguise themselves, hypnotize people, and generally just not doing anything different from what any other monster girl does in this setting. Fuck you mean human women hate and scorn them just rape them too, what are they gonna do about it.
in fact now that I think about it succubi have it WAY better than the average monster girl in MGQ, they can straight up just walk into any village they want while disguised and seduce a guy and get some basically free cum. The infinitely more powerful succubi being opressed and ostracized for the crime of doing exactly what every other monster girl in this setting is both capable of and continues to do is baffling worldbuilding to me. They don't even have the disguise thing exclusive to them, as sister lamia showed that's something a bunch of monster girls can do.
>>560035131>what are they gonna do about itGang up to burn their homes to the ground and stab them with pitchforks? You cannot build a functioning/stable society if one species goes out of it's way to antagonize the other simply as part of the process for how that species has to live in the first place. What are you gonna do, try and rape and enslave all of them? Try to brainwash them into submission so they won't go against you? That's not gonna work out for you, it'll just make things even worse in the long run. Will you rape those who come to avenge or save them? Will you keep running and raping? The more enemies you make the further and further you have to go. This is even part of the point Minagi was making with regards to the Succubi in her world and why she threw the bums who eventually made MW!SV out in the first place, because they keep doing stupid and shortsighted things, and had she not been pre-occupied by the AW/MW War she would've already sorted MW!SV out.>>560035498>they can straight up just walk into any village they want while disguised and seduce a guy and get some basically free cumthat's literally the reason human women hate them so much; it's not hard to see through a disguise if someone is just very blatantly acting like that and that's generally what happened. It's not the disguise, it's their BEHAVIOR that makes all of them hated. And they are definitely are more extreme in their behavior than any other 'civilized' Monster Girl in the setting. Ilias also has a very specific extra-hate for Succubi, which again was also part of the reason behind it. Disguising is an advanced magic a lot of Monster Girls can't use or need time to learn while Succubi can do it more easily, but Succubi very obviously stand out because of what they do. It's worth remembering the leaders of the place are Mayor (obsessed with potatoes) and Witchy (focused on magic), neither one behaves like the traditional succubus, so they can pull it off in the long term.
Succubi need 1000x more semen compared to average monster, baka men need to stop oppressing and starving succubi
>>560036191If an animal had this problem we would just let them go extinct
>>560036162Isn't most of what's in that second paragraph straight up assumptions? We're not told at all about any of that in the VN. All that's said is "succubi fuck too good and the evil human women ostracize them because of that' which is pretty much nonsense given all monster girls in this setting do that. Like, going purely off of how this is presented within the VN it doesn't hold much water at all. I ultimately think Succ village in the VN just did a kind of bad job establising why succubi specifically need their own utopia ethnostate because shit is so bad. Especially when their entire problems are solved so easily that the solution quite literally throws itself at them.
>>560036467true, nobody likes parasites.
>>560035498alice has a human disguse. i assume most high level monsters have acess to similar magic that lets them pose as humans for a time
>>560037609yes I brought that up explicitly with sister lamia, anon. My point is that Succubi aren't really capable of doing anything any different than what other monster girls can do so why do THEY get a sob story. Dragons have it way worse than them and you don't hear them crying
>>560036517Even if you don't account for any of the elaborations/clarifications from Paradox that make it really clear, yes it's made apparent that part of the reason no one likes them is also how the average Succubus acts and their ingrained nature and predisposition to their lives focusing on just sex, and it's not solely just them being too good at sex to the point of making human women seethe. Even Mayor can't focus on following the ritual correctly because she decides she wants all of Luka's semen for herself.>their entire problems are solved so easily that the solution quite literally throws itself at themThat's the joke.In case you forgot, the ending to the SV Questline is played for laughs.Literally no one present expected that to happen, because why the fuck WOULD they expect that to happen? It makes no logical sense. The human men who showed up are just such massive perverts that they pretty much ask to be treated like semen cattle and the Succubi get into it and point out that if they're all willing and it's consensual then it's probably fine, which is why the reactions from the protagonists are just "......alright, let's go" "yeah" and then leaving. They never considered just advertising themselves as rape central because that would get them all killed, but the rumor mill of it being rape central attracted enough perverts that it ended up working out like that.Also I feel like the attitude of several of the anons in these generals towards Succubi and the perception of them kind of proves the point as to why they tried to hide in the first place. I'd also like to remind you that the only times the village functions as they wanted it to is when they were hiding, as shown in the 500-years-ago Tartarus. Once they drop all disguises, 90% of them also end up dropping all inhabitations or self-restraint and it turns into, well, Succubus Village.
>>560036162>hat are you gonna do, try and rape and enslave all of them? Try to brainwash them into submission so they won't go against you? hey! that almost works in king exit
>>560036467>>560037452YOU are the animal, dumb monkey
>>560037775>Also I feel like the attitude of several of the anons in these generals towards Succubi and the perception of them kind of proves the point as to why they tried to hide in the first placeI mean to be fair this tends to be the case because Succubi are liable to dryfish people. It's not like people in this general are racist against succs just because, they dislike that they kill people and generally aren't super likable outside of chrome, (paradox)alma, minagi, etc. Harpy village gets around just fine without disguising themselves because people like Harpies (or at least would if not for the former leader) I'm aware that the finale of succubus village is played for laughs, but I don't remember anything in the VN that said that them wishing for a safe haven is because they're unlikable, the bit about human women not liking them because they fuck to good seemed to be played straight as far as I remember.
>>560038386You are correct. The VN explicitly says that any attempt at some kind of coexistence was met with female humans going against them immediately. This makes it seem that they were not even welcomed in nations like Grand Noah, were monsters where not kill on sight. Paradox has that 30+ year time span that TrTr does not need to go too deep into detail with, where some sort of understanding was made, and you can find succubi all over the place now.
>>560037609>>560037762It's not made clear how many Monsters can pull off the disguise, but it's generally a high level thing that takes time to master. Succubi being so close to looking like humans to begin with and having a strong affiliation for magic is why they can do it much more easily.>Succubi aren't really capable of doing anything any different than what other monster girls can doThey are. They also have a fundamental requirement for semen to stay healthy, it's not just something they can enjoy like a lot of other Monster Girls, they literally require it to survive and remain in good health. This is also part of why they're more focused/revolve around sex than the other species, as well, since they fundamentally depend on it just to live day to day and not just to reproduce or have fun (even if they also clearly think sex is fun).>>560038386It's not just Harpies; Mermaids and Kitsunes also get along with people, Grand Noah has a lot of undisguised Monster Girls running around with zero issues, and the Ant Girls definitely aren't disguising themselves either.And them being outcast is played straight, yes. Human women and Ilias's faith causing conflicting problems with their way of life is just the main reason for it, hence the desire to have someplace they can just belong without fear, and them turning women into more succubi under the belief it would help fix the problem.>they dislike that they generally aren't super likableThat's what my point was. A lot of them behave as the Monster Girl equivalent of a sex pest due to their nature and restraint issues, and it causes their species as a whole a lot of problems. The reaction I often see anons giving them is what they seem to get often which is why they tried to hide in the first place. Even if the reaction is justified, their situation is fairly pitiable and understandable, and there's not really a good solution in the original world, hence the joke ending that fixes the problem.
>>560039630>The reaction I often see anons giving them is what they seem to get often which is why they tried to hide in the first placeThis is true of us irl people, but humans in MGQ react to things with VASTLY less care and realism in that world than we would. Like again this just all feels like assumptions and extrapolation than stuff that's really said in the vn anywhere. No one cares about them being sex pests in universe because this is the femdom porn game, everyone is a sex pest. So succubi specifically being called out for it feels odd.
>>560039525They weren't welcomed in those nations, even with all the Monster Girls running around, due to them conflicting more with human women than any other race. That's why they tried to act like they were human for a long time, since they didn't want to be chased out of their current village. While there's reasons behind it it's still ultimately true that the main issue is just them being incompatible with living alongside human women compared to any other race due to how they behave.I think the Succubi being across the world in Paradox is due to natural coexistence having occurred in combination with the weakening Ilias Faith not making people as dogmatic over having them all chased off/killed, and Succubi seeming to understand more how to live around people, even if they still often seem to end up causing punchlines. Or just doing what the Imps did (vandalism). IIRC it's also implied Succubus Village was doing perfectly fine here until the invasion happened which is what led to the state it's in now.>>560040094>humans in MGQ react to things with VASTLY less care and realism in that world than we wouldIt depends on the human, plenty of them do react, care and behave like normal humans, but there's also plenty of them who are just really eager to have sex and don't care that much. It mostly depends on if trtr is trying to set up a joke or be serious at the moment. I also admit though that Paradox's elaboration on a lot of things from the VN is just ever present and I can't really remove that or un-learn it so I view things through the lens of the added lore that built on the world and the races in it.>everyone is a sex pestNot everyone/everything is no (which I still find surprising but it's true), although I'm not going to pretend that there's definitely not a LOT of sex pests still.But the point I am making is that even if everything is a sex pest then Succubi are sex pest+, and that's the reason.
>>560040741>But the point I am making is that even if everything is a sex pest then Succubi are sex pest+, and that's the reason.I mean, I guess? It just feels like a rather bizarre reason to go with given you think people would care much more about the fact that they dryfish people and eat their souls as opposed to anything else, really. (which like why can they do that, why can succubi just eat souls why make them this comically evil lmao) It's even weirder in the context of when it happens in the VN given that up to this point in time no human other than luka is shown being able to remotely contest any kind of monster and then we're just told to buy that succubi were able to be pushed out by humans alone when with how strong monsters are shown to be compared to humans other than luka it feels like just that one prostitute succubi could nuke an entire town if she felt like it. Is Illias having a particular dislike for succubi even stated or brought up in universe btw? Not that it should even matter in places like Grand Noah
Why didn't human women just lock in and unlock their battlefucking powers to oneshot the average succubi? Are they stupid?
>>560041479>they dryfish people and eat their soulsThat's not what all of them do, it's really important to remember that.Many of them can, but they often don't, and the Succubi who are pointed out by others as being notably dangerous or problematic individuals are the ones who do that. Though in the original VN due to you only ever fighting the bad Monsters that's less obvious and why trtr tried to address it better in Paradox.Although then putting in the Lilith Trio probably neutered the NPC Succubi not doing it, since almost everyone seems to default to them as how the average succubus must be like nowadays.>no human other than luka is shown being able to remotely contest any kind of monsterthat's also not true, but it's usually not present-day or focused on. This is also something Paradox better rectified.>that one prostitute could nuke an entire townI think you have a really over-exaggerated view of this setting>Is Ilias* having a particular dislike for succubi even stated or brought up in universe btwshe literally says this herself, and also many times in Paradox, and given she's the original Ilias that's absolutely going to apply to how she acted in the original world as well. Even if you don't believe that Succubus Mayor's monsterpedia descriptions has>Living most of her life as a wanderer, she seems to have settled down in Succubus Village disguised as a human.>As the Ilias faith spread, more and more humans became reluctant to willingly have sex with Succubi.>Due to that, she was forced into hiding, awaiting the day when Succubi are able to roam freely and have fun with men whenever they want.So yes that's pretty clearly a factor in what happened.Mayor's description also says she's dangerous for being able to potentially kill people, but her description in Paradox clarifies she only does so if she's angered, and that's not her default.>>560042360Paradox unlocked the powerlevels; hence that one women being able to out-succ a succ.
>>560043948>hence that one women being able to out-succ a succ.Tbf anyone in Natasha's raid may as well be exhuman until proven otherwise. It's not like she fought a Elder Succubus from the Monster Lord Castle.
>>560043948>This is also something Paradox better rectified.Paradox had to rectify it by heavily changing the setting to allow for humans to keep up, it's a whole different thing entirely. Even the Q&A says that it's incredibly rare for a human to break the level 20 or so barrier and that prostitute succ is level 40, which is around the strength of some of the strongest humans in the setting like Marcellus. Ignoring metacommentary and looking at the VN alone (which this whole discussion is predicated on, we're talking about the VN interpretation specifically paradox information should not come in at all) I don't see how it's an exxageration to say that she could nuke a village. We're shown time and time again how much ludicrously stronger the average monster is compared to a human and as stated by the time the VN gets to succubus village no one's even shown to be CLOSE to compete outside of Luka, and he'd have died several times over by this point without the help of the spirits. (Once again can we stick to the VN btw and not paradox, I get paradox fixes a lot of things but I'm talking about one specific thing in just the VN. Paradox Succubus Village is an entirely different thing.) That aside, sticking to Illias workship being this massive sticking point for succubi in particular feels odd when illias worship is supposed to prohibit sexual relations with any and all monsters just in general. Especially since there's a fair few cities that don't give a shit like Grand Noah and Yamatai but even they are inexplicably hyper racist against succubi for some reason.
>>560045102TrTr seems to have stopped caring about his Q&A stuff, and pretty much made them non-canon until further notice with Paradox's release. Alice 9th being the most blatant retconning if you can even call it that. That whole level 20 thing doesn't make much sense when we have a city filled with adventurers that get to Hellgondo.
>>560046090That was the black alice era, tbf. When things were significantly shittier and pushed a fair few humans to get to hellgondo tier. Humans aren't nearly as strong these days because they don't need to be. At least that's my headcanon at least they never really say why there's a difference
>>560046090The level 20 thing feels different with Paradox giving jobs. It's a lot easier to keep going when you have the 120% multiplier and skills from it rather than the VN where you only really can outstat enemies and learn from move tutors or whatever was going on with other adventurers there.
>>560045102The Q&A also said humans would win through sheer numbers; when I said "better shown" that's what I meant and not just the power limiter getting uncapped in general. Also >>560046090. Humans are shown fighting against monsters, not all of them do poorly either, but of course no one compares to the freak of nature superhuman that is Luka. You have to remember Luka wouldn't have even been born if the party of four didn't fight their way to Hellgondo in the first place. If you honestly believe that succubus could nuke a village I don't know what to tell you man that's just not the case.>fix"Clarified" and "fix" aren't the same thing, one is correcting something that was a mistake or accident, the other is building on what was already there to make it so it's more easily understood.>ok so yes ilias does hate them more than others but isn't that weird why does that make senseis this bait?This is bait, I'm being baited aren't I. You can't be that retarded. Why does Ilias hate the hyper sexual rape pests more than the other Monster Girls who aren't as obnoxious or in-your-face about sex and don't have their entire lives revolve around sex or going around turning women into more succubi and constantly raping men. I wonder.>>560046530Did you need an entire job system spelled out for you in the VN or something? That would be awkwardly forced in if the game doesn't actually have that nor allow you to interact with it.
>>560046953Anon that's not what I said, I'm saying that if you don't care about Illias to the point where you're mostly okay with breaking one of her explicit commandments to not have sexual relationships with monsters in general, then caring about her specific dislike of succubi but not the other stuff feels weird.
>>560046530TrTr was limited with his VN, but we do see that JRPG element that really only works in a proper RPG game, like items, armor, and weapons that Luka mentions when he goes into a shop. I believe TrTr uses the excuse of Luka being super poor, and having a end game weapon as to why he doesn't indulge in that JRPG mechanic.>>560046953Yeah, like how a San Ilias soldier was going toe to toe with an enemy that had a higher level than the Elder Succubus in the VN.>>560046090Remember that quest that Ilias wanted Luka to take part of to power up the Goddess Sword? Yeah, retconned into oblivion if we take his Q&A's as canon material, and not him just joking around.
>>560046953>>560047948Nero's comment about magic makes it seem like the Job system isn't in the VN or at least wasn't really used by the humans. Sure there's the whole collapse of heaven and mana pouring out, but magic is a basic job with no requirements so it makes more sense that the VN world doesn't have a job system rather than us not seeing Luka and Alice ignore it.
>>560048432I don't really think it's fair to apply paradox's system to the VNs anyways given if it did work like that angel halo should've atomized lime the second it so much as touched her
>>560004941Spider princess literally cums when raping Luka. It's in-text even, not something said out of game by other characters.
>>560047252That's not the only reason either though, as I said, it's just one of them. Like how I said they're generally unable to get along with the residents in most places for a variety of reasons, the biggest one was just human women. This isn't some situation where any of these things are mutually exclusive. There can be multiple or varying reasons across different places.Some humans won't have sex with them due to Ilias, others they're chased out by the women, and in others they're just unwelcome because they also don't get along with the Monster Girls there. It's not like Kitsunes would suddenly be ok with Succubi coming into their village to fuck all their men or husbands (also Yamatai doesn't worship Ilias and is uninformed on her). Again, they are "sex pest+" regardless of if you think everything in the setting is a hyper-slutty sex pest or not (and again not everything is but even if you believe that) they are canonically more-so then everything else. Monster girls and human women, human women just even more so than anything else. Them transforming women into even more succubi who then go on rape rampages because they cannot control themselves is also part of the problem and that's one that's demonstrably shown during the sabbath, and also during Sara's transformation into one.
>>560048432Heinrich had jobs in the past Tarturus, and we know Heaven wasn't destroyed there. Same thing with MW and AW, who also didn't experience the same circumstances. Morrigan makes note that the Singularity World is unique in that the mana is incredibly heavy.
>>560047948Thank you anon, yes a lot of it is either mentioned as happening offscreen or simply shown during the War in Part Three. It's just not focused on, because what gets focused on during those is instead the humans/monster girls who are being overwhelmed that you need to save, like an elf/soldier/harpy/etc. The ones who don't need your help don't get focused on, because they don't need your help, and it wouldn't make sense to linger on them.And yeah Luka tried to afford the actually good equipment, he's just broke, so he couldn't buy any of it. The shopkeeper informs him of the super high quality Enriken Shirt though, which he buys due to it being in his price range, which is why you can also buy and upgrade that across the game too just like the custom sword.>>560048432Nero's comment isn't that it's not possible, just that it's rare and hard to achieve. Magic did exist and was possible for Humans to use, it simply required far more training and effort to pull off. The abundance of mana in Paradox simply allows for far more people to use magic, and do it far more quickly, so he was surprised to learn it had become so commonplace due to that.
>>560048969 I wasn't implying it was the only reason, you kind of forced me to clarify on that point given you assumed everything I was saying was bait based off that, anon.
>>560049390It's actually kind of funny, but Luka does have a equipment screen in the VN. It's utterly pointless, but it shows that he is at the mercy of some RPG mechanic where equipment does have their own stat bonuses. I believe Alice had one too during the cooking pot fight, and she does have some items that you can find in Paradox. I know he was poor, but sheesh, couldn't he have bought some gauntlets or a resistant item to boost that pitiful defense?
luka and alice are nepobabies
>>560050719Yeah? It's not like the games are trying to hide it.It's only in the VN that people hold it against them, since Luka is quite naive in his beliefs, and Alice is a do nothing leader in a world where tensions are boiling over.
>>560051202Honestly Luka's angel heritage helps him a lot less in paradox due to him having to actually grind out the angel stuff. I'm not sure paradox luka catches up to VN luka until chaos route that guy is busted
>>560046953>>560047948I always found interesting these discussions but I think we need to see the bigger picture: monsters lack a proper organized army and tend to have exploitable weaknesses.While there ARE some monsters that have a knack for tactical combat, like the Harpies have demonstrated, on multiple occasions, the average isn't that good.Furthermore, TRTR clarifies some of the monsters Luka fought were the outstanding ones of their species, and likewise the ones the soldiers were beating were more on the average.Regardless my point is: while the average monster may be more powerful than the average human, the fact humanity has better cohesion works on their favor. They will struggle against the outliers, but they will have outliers of their own too. Not to expect something on the level of Luka or Heinrich but higher ranking knights or specialized tactics.Those soldiers were dealing with a Mass Produced Chimera, which was powerful, but flip that around and the Chimeras aren't gonna adapt from their limited intelligence.
>>560051445Of course we have space king fans here. I approve.
>>560051445I'm honestly not quite sure how humans are able to deal with Chimeras at all. Going by something like Chimera Dryad there's not much most monsters can do against something like that much less humans. Even a heavily experienced and high leveled fighter like Lazarus gets the shit kicked out of him by a trooperoid. I understand we're TOLD that humanity can just kinda beat the shit out of monsters and chimera if they lock in but the exact mechanism of how they're doing this doesn't compute in my mind when you have people like alma that can instantly take out a whole castle or Chimera Dryad which can just straight up tank an attack from the monster lord. (I know it did take damage but it didn't kill it)
>>560051445There is a moment in the VN that people seem to forget when it comes to how tough some humans are. San Ilias soldiers somehow not only survive, but get up to fight some more after Granberria hit them with a flaming sword attack that destroyed a bunch stone pillars, and even got her to compliment their fighting spirit. Yeah she was holding back, but I don't think many things on the continent would get up from an attack like that.
>>560047948>>560049390Personally, I always saw the VN as something closer to the real world but with a lot more magic. Don't forget that spirits are a magic that all humans seem to have access to.>Enrikan ShirtWhile it's true that Luka didn't have the money to buy anything heavier, the actual reason Alice told him to buy it was simply because most armor would be too heavy for Luka. The Enrikan Shirt is both light and enchanted so it's the only armor Luka and his combat style would benefit from.>>560051990>Chimera DryadTo be fair, it's not a mass produced chimera. It's presumably some kind of prototype or special chimera since you never see another one aside from the Chimera Dryad Vore in Remina.
>>560051990Prom said that the Chimeras towards the end of the invasion are mass produced trash, so they are inferior products to the ones fought at the start of it. Still impressive, but they are not going to be standing against the Next Dolls that's for sure. Laz only got hurt protecting someone, and was doing okay against the Trooperoid before that.
>>560052124I mean i'm pretty sure she was holding back specifically not to seriously kill or injure anyone, it's not really them "somehow surviving" when that was just what granberia was trying to do in the first place >>560052459Isn't angel Halo not really any stronger than the original sword he started with either? Given he used his normal sword to fight alice and was seemingly not debuffed at all. I don't think it has rpg stats or anything
>>560051990>my mind doesn't computeseems to be the problem here, given you're shown that happening in Part Three, and you just don't believe it or think it makes sense because of your over-exaggerated view of the setting. Humans fighting Monsters happens mostly offscreen because it's just not important to the narrative to have extensive focus on that until the War actually happens, where it makes more logical sense for that to get shown now. So you either have to tone down your powerscale and see the average compared against the exceptional individuals and outliers, and that the average human city or kingdom has people capable of fighting back against the average monster girl, or else the setting is what's wrong and not you.
>>560052857The thing is we're actively told the opposite at times, like how even weaker monster girls like the bandits can still overpower the average adult. Humans being able to contest angels and chimeras in part 3 is necesscary for the narrative to justify why luka can just not do certain areas and not have them get genocided. but I'm not going to pretend like it's not weird when the game has been up to this point Luka being liable to get instakilled when he doesn't have a particular spirit up and then rando no name guards can just do just fine. Trtr might've said in an interview or something that these are supposed to be abnormally strong monsters but they're just presented as normal random encounters within the VN itself.
>>560053453At least for the Gnome/Bind situations the human soldiers have the paradox strat of having 1 guy being rapebait and the other 3 jumping her. Not so much if it's something that requires Sylph for status effects.
>>560053832Speaking of Gnome, what's the headcanon for them dealing with the artificial spirit boosted girls. Do they just have mountain cutter mcgee sitting in the sidelines or something
>>560053453TrTr had this DQ parody he wanted to tell, so Luka's and Alice's journey was his main focus. Everything else was just window dressing to fit that parody, even it it didn't make much sense. Just like most JRPGs in all honesty.Paradox is probably what TrTr sees how his setting is supposed to function as a whole now, supplanting the VN. We have examples where his Q&A sessions for the VN just got retconned by Paradox's release. I actually wonder if Paradox was what he always wanted to write, but was limited by the tools he had at the time.
>>560051990>>560052576It's probably worth remembering that Lazarus is also a cripple. He only mentions his arm being crippled, but it's not unlikely that his body's doing pretty bad in general.>>560052639Funnily enough, Luka actually gets MORE attack between Granberia's fight and Alice's fight. But yeah, I think the thing that really makes the sword special in the VN is that it can seal monsters and is capable of harming anything.>>560053453Don't forget that other humans also have access to greater numbers, a wider variety of weapons, magic, and spirits. Even if most individual monsters would beat most individual humans, humans should never be dueling them in a real fight. At least a little handwaving is probably necessary even then, but I think humans can reasonably still put up a fight.
>>560054314Don't forget angel halo is unbreakable too. Weapons being unbreakable is an underrated thing but a lot of mythological weapons are explicitly prized for being unbreakable for a reason> a wider variety of weapons, magic, and spirits I mean realistically monsters should have most humans easily beat on magic, and I don't think they have access to the spirits at all. Really what I think nerfs monsters the most that I havent seen anyone bring up is that they explicitly do sex fights and don't try to just carpet bomb people with fireball. So they're all generally holding back to a degree. Except the Chimeras they're probably just gonna eat you.
>>560053453>>560053453>they're just presented as normal random encounters within the VN itselfbecause it wouldn't make sense to fight the non-problematic ones. Also the bandits had a Dragon and a Vampire, which are noted to be exceptionally rare individuals and most of them hadn't even seen the bandits. Either way you complain it doesn't make sense because there aren't examples and then complain the examples make no sense. It's just circular logic you've trapped yourself in. The game shows the San Ilia guards being able to withstand Granberia's attack, something undoubtedly noteworthy given how the ilias continent fares with her, and they can fend off powerful monsters and later chimeras/angels through teamwork and co-ordinating their numbers.Luka is always going to be more vulnerable when he's by himself, because he has no one to back him up or help him snap out of something if he's his with a bad status. He mostly gets by because he can magically heal himself with angel cheat codes with Tamamo even points out to him when he complains about her healing herself during their fight.
>>560054702>The game shows the San Ilia guards being able to withstand Granberia's attackI mean, again I'm really not sure this is much of a feat at all, she's explicitly DRAMATICALLY holding back by a lot a lot given her fight with Luka soon after. These guards aren't tanking a full on flaming rebellion sword or anything.
>>560054252>I actually wonder if Paradox was what he always wanted to write, but was limited by the tools he had at the time.Given he was working on Paradox during Chapter Three, undoubtedly yes. He almost certainly had always wanted to make a story like that, he just didn't know how at first and started with a VN. If he had known how to do it originally, it's possible the original trilogy might've also been a JRPG. Which is why I only ever viewed Paradox as clarifying his intent with the original game, since he uses it to build off of, elaborate or just make more clear what he had wanted to be the case for the original game when he's not going for a timeline divergence; mostly with regards to worldbuilding.I do think Paradox being the alternate timeline it is is pretty cool though, so I'm glad it turned out the way it did. Had the VN been an JRPG I'd be bummed if I couldn't recruit the girls I liked.
>>560054684Humans are confirmed to make contracts with lesser spirits in the VN through Lazarus. I don't remember it ever being mentioned that monsters can't make contracts with spirits though. All of the Heavenly Knights other than Erubetie seem to be able to basically use the power of the spirits on their own so something similar seems to be possible either way. The only thing I don't know for sure is whether the average human is able to make a contract with the Four Spirits.
>>560054869>How is humanity surviving the strongest swordswomen an accomplishmentshe's holding back against Luka, yes, but she's not doing some kind of flick-of-the-wrist thing like Koron with Angolmois where she kills her barely trying, she hits those three full force with her sword for trying to interrupt the fight because she's explicitly there to see Luka's progress and taking Luka out too early would ruin that.
>>560055030I do like how he did explain the wacky DQ inspired kingdoms work in his universe. A super decentralized free for all mess where culture, government, and even religion are not controlled by the capital, and left to the inhabitants of the towns/villages/cities to do as they like, as long as they pay their taxes.
>>560055640Didn't Luka need to physically give Lazarus Salamander in order for him to use it, though? Same with Heinrich borrowing the spirits for elemental Spica.>>560055753Do you have a quote or implication that she's explicitly hitting these guards with her full power because that seems extremely silly.
>>560056184Lazarus said he used weaker elemental spirits during his adventure days. We don't see any of these weaker fire, earth, or water spirits in the setting, only the wind ones. Those Chi Pa Pas are apparently what Lazarus used when he was part of Marcellus' group.
Chi Pa Pa terroism
>>560056438You sure that's not a paradox thing? I don't remember something like that getting brought up in the VN also I wish there was an easier way to get through the VN to find quotes for conversations like these. Unless you just have a save at every save point possible it seems like it'd be comically tedious to try and get through it to find a reference for something due to all the fights.
>>560056184I didn't say full power I'm saying she's just not half-assing it like Koron does. Even then she still injures them pretty badly and they're clearly incapable of fighting her, all I said was they survived her, and fared better than the guys in Iliasburg, who are explicitly of very low quality, while these are members of the military of one of the four central human kingdoms, so they're probably around the top of average humans. I don't get how that seems silly, unless you think humanity simply can't do shit in this setting no matter what and them being able to not instantly turn to red mist or dried fish against a monster makes no sense, which is what you seem to believe.
>>560056597It was before he used Salamander.He mentions using fire spirts as an adventurer, but Salamander tells him that she was in a different league compared to the spirits he was accustomed to. Again, TrTr just didn't really explain things in the VN, and dropped plot points to get the story moving. Paradox answers this more clearly, but these mini spirits really aren't that important anyways.
>>560056184>>560056438>>560056597I remember since I beat the VN recently. He said the mage in the party could summon spirits for them to make contracts with, by elimination, that mage should have been Merlin.Salamander countered that she wasn't an average spirit and he wouldn't have a proper contract and she conceded because Lazarus knew full well what that meant, which indicates Merlin had warned the party over the dangers of using powers of spirits uncontracted (Lazarus burns to death from using Salamander)TRTR explained in the Q&A that without monster blood it would take decades for the average human to use magic or stuff like that.
Wait I don't remember if Lazarus mentioned he made proper contracts or just used borrowed power from spirits Merlin contracted.I think it was meant to be the latter, so basically Merlin would ban them from using the spirits too much or power of a spirit too strong to avoid self-damage.
>>560056775All i'm saying is human power levels aren't some consistent thing and mostly just are what they need to be to serve the narrative, it's not an exact logical scenario to humans being able to contest with monsters and chimeras, it's just handwaved a bit because this has turned from the femdom porn game into the action game (featuring femdom porn from the monster girl quest series)
How do vampires work in MGQ, can humans get turned into them or do they get born?
>>560057183Vampires are a succubus subrace. I assume you can't really turn into one unless you have monster blood in the same way you turn into a succubus. You know why does Sara turn into a succubus anyways instead of a weird sphinx chimera thing.
>>560057143(You) don't think it makes any sense, but the setting makes it clear that the average human who has been trained can fend off the average monster girl and the average human military can adequately defend themselves and their city/village/kingdom/etc against monster girls enough for their settlements to not be wrecked or conquered by the time you get there, because if they couldn't defend themselves, then those humans wouldn't be the ones in charge. It's not handwaved unless you don't actually care about it any more than "it's just a porn game". trtr was always that autistically devoted to it.
>>560057304Not sure in the VN (specially since Elf Queen says the only explanation for her power being that the ritual just activated what was already in than transforming her) but in Paradox Sara proudly proclaims she, that was monsterized by one of the Succubi Sisters, wouldn't fall to mere vampires that were offshoots from succubi.
>>560057696He's autistically devoted to paradox but as stated above by other anons for the most part the VN is just a dragon quest parody. The autism does kick in around the end but it's mostly vaugeposting that doesn't really become anything until paradox. I don't really care anymore tho anon you seem more autistic about this than even trtr was
I want a continuation of the VN timeline
>>560058692what would there even really be to cover that paradox cant really do? The setting is a lot smaller. I guess there's the ancestors but even that's covered in great detail by paradox.
>>560057759I think Sara was made into a succubus in the VN because the Elf Queen wanted her to turn the nobility of Sabasa into monsters too. Paradox is self explanatory.
>>560059257I'm not sure about that, the ritual seemed to go way off course from what they expected. Can succubi even causally turn other humans into succubi anyways? it seems to be a moderately high level thing. Feel like if it was that easy to cause a succ cascade they'd be bub tier.
>>560058029You're just being flippant because your headcanon is wrong and you ran out of copium. The setting wouldn't make any sense if humans couldn't defend themselves because then you'd get MW, which is what that world would logically look like.
>>560059549No I just don't want to discuss this anymore because neither of us are going to budge on our points and it's going to shit up the thread
I have no idea what happened.I love my wife Granberia however.
>>560059702>I have no idea what happened.a race war
>>560059805Damn...Again? At least we're close to bump limit.
>>560059702Autism rants about the monster girl game universe I can't keep up with them but I appreciate the autistic passion put into them
Morrigan says that the monsters are so weak in the Singularity World, that she wouldnt be surprised if humans take over.It seems that the monsters are not as great as people think they are, since the unga boonga dumdum says they aren't.
>>560060125Oh I see! Autistic passion tends to burn rather brightly- of all people, I'd know.Good for that anon, then. Even if I really do not have the brainpower to look at it right now.Sending this thread to 751 (now 2) with a hearty I LOVE GRANBERIA!!
>>560060125not spending hours of your day arguing about a 15 year old porn game is something to be proud of >>560060191I feel like it's easier to objectively powerscale the paradox humans to monsters because the system is canon but i'm not autistic enough to do that. Idk mimic girl solos or something.
>>560060125>>560060249I'm not 'autistically ranting' I'm just fed up with the rambling run-on paragraphs bitching about the VN and claiming it makes no sense that pop up every time someone tries to discuss something from it, because it always shits up the discussion. Especially because those paragraphs are also generally wrong in the first place as if they came from someone who just spedran and didn't actually read anything. And then they try to force their headcanon onto the game and say it's what doesn't make sense. There's plenty of evidence provided even in the original VN and none of it is good enough because it's apparently too difficult to understand that humans wouldn't be able to live in a kingdom around monsters if they couldn't defend it so therefore it doesn't make sense. I don't usually bother with this because it's a waste of time, but I'm just not putting up with it on this one.
>>560061315I see...
>>560061315>complains about paragraph posting>paragraph postsCalm thy autism anon you don't need to defend the honor of a videogame
>>560061584I see the irony my post but I'm just not gonna stand for being accused of some kind of white-knighting or autism just because some anon is too much of a retard to comprehend the simple logic of "if human kingdom couldn't defend itself, then humans wouldn't be in charge of kingdom" and would rather instead try to claim that Maccubus could singlehandedly destroy entire villages.
>>560062132Anon you're ABSOLUTELY autistic, I'm autistic too, we're both autistic, we're getting into a slap fight about lore minutae in a 15 year old porn game. Just own up to your autism rants like i'm owning up to mine.
>>560061315>>560062132Based autismbro never let headcanontards and other schizos take root, otherwise we'll end up with more retarded faggots like the lowercase poster who didn't even play anything MGQ but he """read the wiki so he totally knows everything about the game"""
>>560063834>read the wiki so he totally knows everything about the game"""people don't actually do this with porn games right? do they read digests of the H-scenes???
>>560064136They do this shit with a lot of games, porn or not.
>>560064136I've caught quite a lot of fanfic writers who verbatim just take stuff from the wiki and don't engage with the source material. It's simply the path of least resistance. Granted with MGQ I rely on the wiki a lot harder than I do some other stuff because trying to scrub the vn for context is ASS
I think TrTr should remake the VN with the Paradox mechanics. It would be fun breaking the game as a pleasure attacking Luka because the rapey needs to show those rapists a lesson.
>>560064136I tried it with the untranslated collab games. They barely bothered with the story so I didn't learn much besides the enemies not being the final bosses.
>>560064582if trtr attempted to remake the vn he'd spend 20 years redoing everything and expanding everything to massive proportions, and that's just for part 1. I'm sure our grandkids will enjoy the finished product.
>>560062502Don't make me roll my eyes, I'm just annoyed by the stupid insistence of trying to force some kind of headcanon onto the game and then complaining that it doesn't make sense when you do that. No shit it doesn't make sense when you do that. I just don't normally go after it when this crops up because it's usually over something trivial and not fundamental to the setting like how humanity's even still around in the first place, or "why do people not like succubi", fucking hell you even mentioned the thing with humanity being a headcanon on your end at one point and then try to act like it's just the setting not making sense and "it's just a porn game it's not that deep" like this game didn't get a reputation for attracting tons of people for reasons beyond the porn.>>560063834Uh, thanks I guess, I just find it incredulous to complain about something that isn't actually true and then complaining it makes no sense that it's not true.>>560064136People will do this with everything all the time. It's not even exclusive to games, unfortunately. It's just commonplace all over.
>>560064582It would be really, really funny if gravity pleasure luka ended up going through the original story just insta-cumming all the girls. It would make reality implode.
>>560062132>implying a succubus wouldn't be able to infiltrate a village and energy drain people one by oneThis reminds me of the Village of Nightmare games, I wish there were more games like that.
>>560064772I mean, it isn't that deep. Trtr's greatest strength as a writer has always been his character interactions, and it's been the emotional core of Alice and Luka that carries the vn much more than the VN's worldbuilding, which up to part 3 is pretty solidly in parody territory(he's gotten a hell of a lot better at this going into paradox, though. as evidenced by harpyanon's deep dives). As much as you spam headcanon I know and agree that humans are presented as capable of beating monsters, that is what the story presents them of doing. I just personally disagree with trtr's execution of it and think the femdom porn gets in the way of that particular attempt at worldbuilding. I like the VN a lot and generally still think it holds up in a lot of places (even if I do think the gameplay gets tedious on repeats) I just simply disagree with trtr's execution on specific plot elements. Anyways I know you're going to yell at me for this no matter what I put in this paragraph so go ahead and do that if it makes you feel better. I'm just finishing off my point before I got to bed. Night anon.
>>560065963I don't think the femdom part gets in the way of it, because that's just what happens when you lose (you get raped). Them being able to not lose is just important for them to be there. Either way it's disingenuous to just act like you weren't saying contradictory things in the first place and that the pushback is unwarranted. The emotional core of the story is what carries the original game but the worldbuilding is still present and "humans being able to defend themselves" isn't unsuited for parody territory. You're being disingenuous about the posts you actually made, because your overexaggerated view of the setting is what causes the narrative problems to you, since it's made clear throughout the game that many places are able to defend themselves, you just don't get to see it on-screen until part three.>Anyways I know you're going to yell at me for this no matter what I put in this paragraph so go ahead and do that if it makes you feel betterI'm sorry that you're wrong.I'll see you next thread, I'm sure.
...no waiting warmly, it seems. I'll get baking- if you have a good image, (You) me it, otherwise I'm postin' wife.
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>>560067553Oh I see! I'll hold off then.Thank you for baking in advance.
>>560067618>Oh you can make the thread if you want anon, go ahead Are you sure anon, if you want too you can.
>>560067697Don't worry, I'm all good! Thank you for offering, however.
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