The Wheel has turned once againElfed EditionDominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y>Steamgrouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya>Multiplayer guide/game hosting services>Hinaserver https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548312356/#548526452https://hinaserver.net>Blitzserverhttps://blitzserver.net(Dom 6)https://beta.blitzserver.net/games>Llamaserver:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582>Documentationhttps://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html>Tools>Mod inspectorhttps://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/>Wikihttps://illwiki.com/>Pretender calculatorhttps://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)>Debug modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)https://instacalc.com/53495>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/>How do I change the fonts?Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)>Fan arthttps://thronebooru.booru.org>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Modhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing>other asynchronous strategy gamesSolium Infernum.Previous Pantokrator>>557589243
>80 points per magic pathThats. . .terrible or what?
>>559316504is this addition fine?>>other asynchronous strategy games>Solium Infernum.
>>559317091On MA Ulm? How many paths does MA Ulm have normally? A few or a lot?
>>559317424The old guest name was /sig/ for Solium Infernum General, but /async/ sounds pretty good.Two or three games bundling up would also help keep the thread alive, and people who like one of these usually like others too
SLAANESH HAS BROKEN FREEPREPARE THE LUBE
>>559317686Thankee. I can't really think of much. Is shadow empire the same?
>>559324895Very few games of the sort.Many Slitherine titles have a PBEM mode. Pike And Shot is a favorite of mine. Pretty nice 1 on 1 battles from late medieval times to just before Napoleon.Not many async games for many players out there, though
>>559317424domg + coe + asyncpretend I used /
>>559315889>>559317091Dracolich with reforming flesh is a top tier expander and MA Ulm can easily afford it with the scales it needs. It doesn't need extra paths, though you could take A for trapezing + wind of death later.The only downside is no N, and N is a bad thugging path to take on the Dracolich. Ulm likes N for various important items (like endless wine bags) and to forge thistle mages for N1 indies or summon ivy lords to cast poison res against foul vapors. For that you would want the big pig with hard skin.
>>559327537/pbem/RVTVVN TV TRVDVTVVN
>>559330551Does MA Ulm even need help with expansion?Thugging might alleviate any special holes in the defenses that guardians can't deal with, but otherwise, lack of magic paths, in particular nature as you point out, is arguably the biggest weakness. That nature probably doesn't help the dracolich with thugging is completely irrelevant. As you mention, nature magic would be primarily just for rituals and forging. And that is a cost of 80 points on the dracolich.Ulm's troops have significant weaknesses later, but their forging is great, so getting geared thugs up and running, as well as recruiting or summoning spellcasters that can mitigate those troops' weaknesses, is really helpful. Guardians are not impressive if they die to foul vapors, wind of death, wrathful skies, etc., but magic can make them a bit more durable and useful. And thugs are generally more resilient either way.
>>559332442Jump-starting expansion is always valuable, and winning harder (more provs faster with less attrition) is too. Besides gold it also lets you beeline to nearby thrones faster, and a good awake can often solo thrones early, which can get you valuable mages.I agree N access and N2+ forging is important, that's why I love the hard skin pig. 29 prot expands into anything, 34 after ironskin, and takes any throne without elemental effects. And he's pretty cheap, you can get almost full scales without even taking misf 1 (misf 1 unlocks the only common gemloss event from drain, and you lose 3d6 of all gems)
>>559333706Does hard skin stack with other skins like iron skin?
>>559332442>>559330551Thats alot of words, i will try these things out and see how it goes, thank you!
>>559333706Unless you get independent mages with astral, or you get a master smith with random astral, you probably won't get into astral. That excludes golems and a bunch of helpful items, rituals and combat spells, like antimagic and amulet of antimagic.I think MA Ulm is not in a terrible spot to take on a lot of thrones without pretender help. Guardians have magic weapons and hit hard. And I'm not sure the boar is all that strong against thrones, though I haven't tested it myself.It's true that improved expansion can be great (through FFA and diplomacy also plays into matters), but it has to be weighed against costs, including opportunity costs. The boar only brings one new path to the table, although a very helpful path. And while thrones sometimes give access to mages, they don't always do that.
MAke_it_happen admin, could I get a 4hr extension? Still got a few things to setup, and I'd like to do them correctly, or at least less ass-like; but I do have the concepts of a turn in. Fuck do I have a ton of shit to manage. Plus Ermor hasn't gotten theirs in yet. Thanks!
Dominions 1 Y/N? or does it not run well at all in modern systems?
>>559336392yes>>559337547S isn't a bad path to gun for with Ulm, but it's not hard to get into. You spam Master Smiths for their randoms, especially S and A, and you can arcane probe with S1. One empowerment costs 30 pearls and gets you access to both boosters (up to S4), so all a pretender does is save you 30 pearls and get things started a little faster if you site search.
>>559340403Try it out and tell me how it goesI got CoE2 to run so it should work just fine
>>559339893TL;DR: You're still alive. Correct that. KYS faggot.
Holy pixels
>>559347357Nice to see we still got our dragon
>put in a turn quickly without double checking it and go back to a different game I was invested in last night>go to work next day, realize I made a careless mistake that will set me back for the rest of the game if my opp capitalizes on it>mentally kick myself over it for half an hour>get home, turn rolled, begrudgingly open it>opp didn't see the opening and I got off scot freeH-heh, outplayed...
>>559342689But if you're unlucky, even if spamming smiths as much as possible, you only get your first one by turn 30 or later or something. If recruiting 50 smiths, the probability of getting no astral-random smiths is 7.7%. And you might not have gotten much if any astral pearl income, without any astral access, by that point. And 3 paths worth of income, from earth, fire and nature using the boar pretender, doesn't amount to a lot of income to alchemize to empower with. If you site search with more paths early, however, you should get access to more independent mages and more gem income earlier, meaning more pearls to alchemize with and use, or doing remote site searching with.Of course, that should be weighed against winning early wars and potentially capturing sites that yield pearl income or other gem income that can be used to alchemize with.Poor magic gem income is something of a theme with MA Ulm, it is even part of their lore.Add to that having few paths to work with in general, especially for combat.
BELIAL~
>>559352606For me, it's laileb.
how is the meta these days? I have not played in years (still have an old dom3 pmb folder in my gmail... what a life i have lived...) I just figured out how to kinda play this on steamdeck and am down to give er another go..also wtf the new captcha is impossible
>>559359941You only have to fuck with the insane cipher captchas for like 5 posts and then they get ez.I can't speak to the meta because I'm ass at this game. Endgame is usually thug battles.
>>559347357Sovl
Does 'Attack Rearmost' also include commanders?ie; if I slap my pretender as the rearmost thing in the battle, will enemy fliers set to (Hold and attack rear) fall on him?
>>559363559Yes
>>559363559I believe your units on attack rear will take morale checks as they pass by some of the units, if they fail then they will engage. Higher morale units are more likely to hit the actual rear units, at least as I understand it. This is why it doesn't always work, and its often best to split a large stack of birds into 2-3 smaller stacks when doing commander sniping.
>Kislev has launched a three day special military operation against Altdorfhere we go again
>>559347357Looks better than dom6
>>559359941>how is the meta these daysMuch better. Defensive RoS isn't really a thing anymore since both sides play turns simultaneously.
>>559359941Mainly about thugging with mace of eruption
Can you get more than 3 orders
>Anathemant Dragon>resist fire: 25>heat aura: 5>2 firevs>Turan Sorcerer>resist fire: 30>heat aura: 6>3 fire>the refugees of Abysia in Ragha have more pure-blooded Abysians remaining than "OG Abysia"Oh no no no no
>>559393102Inbreeding perks
>>559393102At least they have higher MR.
uwu
>>559398990Average Mediterranean fractionaction experience
>>559398990Cute
Fuck fuck fuck, how do I defend myself against rituals
>>559401917Sneak away your thugs, Vortex of Returning your armies, dome your forts and never leave them.
>>559402935>Vortex Don't I lose a good chunk of em?
>>559393102F3 gives 5 fire res and you gain +1 heat aura per fire magic level. The racial stats are the same, LAby are just firelets.
Can you tell me some badass things that the "good" nations can do? I have a mental illness, where I can only play evil-themed factions, who either have pop kill or blood access and I don't know how to fix that.
>>559409385Mother Oak to Gift of Health is pretty standard for nature nations who tend to be 'good' I guess
>>559342689>>Does hard skin stack with other skins like iron skin?>yesdoubt
>>559409385Elves can ruin your entire lifealso who even would be a "good" faction in Dominions?Everyone is either fucked up or corrupt somehow.The only objectively good faction is MA Pythium, but they still got corrupted.
>>559410917>who even would be a "good" faction in Dominions?EA Rus
>>559368804Nothing to see here tovarisch. Glorious Kislev is only guaranteeing the safety of kislavite citizens in their ancestral territory.
>>559409385Conversation starter?Ignoring the theme stuff, any nation can summon tartarians.They can also cast arcane nexus.Dreams of the awakening god.Wish.Specifically for nations, some can do phoenix pyre thugs, potentially killing whole enemy armies including unprepared mages.Caelum tend to be able to end a fight with thunderstrikes before it even begins.Some nations can wipe armies with hordes of earthquake casts.Wind of death is popular.Master enslave is almost never seen, but can not only win against armies, but sometimes cause an increase in troop count even against huge enemy armies.Glamour nations like vanir nations can sometimes conquer a nation in just about a single turn.Some nations can wipe an army with gifts of heaven spam.There are always hellblesses on some nations.Olms paralyzing and mindblasting small armies.Soul slay communions.
Why is it always Belial players aaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>559405303Depends, but it can happen. Returning can also do the same for mages or commanders with the ring.
>>559409492Stares at you in MA Asphodel....
>>559413159Poors can do nothing!
>>559413963Based
>>559413963SEX
>>559398990Can love flourish in the battlefield?
>mu throwing yet again by not forging owl quills
>>559409492>>559410917>>559411591Don't give me naked stats like a Computer Science Major. Tell me a story!
>>559410189do not verify yourselflive in doubtbe my second expansion
>>559417264One of the most legitimate things you can do is take an awake lion ethereal solar weapon bless for your kotc as MA Marignon and becomes essentially an army of angelic crusaders that absolutely mog everything else despite having a kingdom that is dying.
>>559405303Should be around 7% losses, same if you cast returning to extract a bunch of communion slaves. Or just returning in general.
>>559417275>big bad boar>dies to jotun skratti with duskdaggersno you
>>559418391>jotun skratti with duskdaggers>dies to chainstaling after I find you irl and rape you to deathwooow this shit is ASS
>>559420747more like I kill you instead if you try to kill me, faggotwithout rape, since I ain't homosexual, unlike faggot you
My cool red dragon just died turn 2. . .
>>559424006One reason why people often avoid using dragons, they're more fragile than what many think.Did it die to barbarians, heavy cavalry, cynocephalians, bleeding, or something else?
>>559425740in dominions dragons can't turn their heads while using their deadly breath, so with enough retards only the ones in front of it will die while the rest surround it and beat it to death
>only way to guarantee enemy (hold)x5 Attack Rear pretender actually targets my pretender at the back is to give them a small squad of bodyguards, otherwise some bullshit causes them to target someone else>but bodyguards lag behind, and if they land not adjacent to the pretender he just keeps walking forward despite (attack large monsters) because apparently turning around is illegal in this gameI fucking hate that this entire battle is about to hinge on a 50/50 of if the enemy pretender lands next to my pretender or not.Everytime I get back into this game I run into a brick wall that makes me fucking abhor it all over again.
>>559424006What did it die against
>>559425740Some independent barbs i think, was too busy looking at pretty colors>>559429132Common thugs, i expected a pretender dragon to be tanky
Is Phaecia just a 'Na'ba we have at home'?
>>559431753>Some independent barbsthey can kill any tendy given enough barbs
>>559435939wrong>>559434981storm captains are substantially cheaper and faster to recruit than a2 mages of naba
>>559437112no it is true, given an unlimted number of barbs they would kill your tendy thru timeout if nothing else
>>559437484unless the tendie has flight or teleportor later if it casts firestorm or other similar spell
>>559367584Sorry I missed this, hard to keep up this many turns into a game. Hope it didn't fuck anything up
>>559444358Nah, things went fairly smoothly even without the fine touch; although I did fight through a firestorm without fire fend but made out alright. But yeah, we're pretty deep into the weeds on this one ... I'll do my best to fix that though :)
>demand received >insult received>demand received>demand received>insult demand demand insult demand insult insult insult
Soldier of the Faith should be summonable by Marignon, or be freespawn under Face of the Lord.
>>559452317Hey it's free prestige :)
>>559452317Get a stronger praetor/legions as a deterrent. If they try anyway and lose, now you're the one making the demands
>>559429132
Let's play a game: what's wrong in this picture?
>>559452317This is why you always have elocution up
BELIAL!!!!!!!!!
>>559455449Needs more knights
having that map fog of war leads to some stupid situations, should have checked the pic oceania posted earlier a little closer I guess
>>559463335Oceania is getting bigger...
Mammon please never stop giving me your deal :)
Gnight /domg/
>>559472485vgh... I'll never reach Marquis if I keep setting up these kickbacks...
>>559455449Raimondas was seduced or something?
>>559482667Correct. Rolled a 3 against a charm then immediately routed into a Pyrenian castle.
>>559492969That sounds more or less like a best case scenario for Pyrene and very unlucky scenario for Zemaitia. While it isn't N2, LA Pyrene has poor national access to N, and the NG crosspath is great for rituals, and Pyrene might be in a good spot regarding forging G boosters. And the antlered hochmeisters aren't bad at all, especially with a heroic ability.I'd be wary of succubi and incubi attacks. Dream seduction involves both a morale roll and an MR roll. Earth items for MR, fire items for morale, maybe, since Zemaitia might not have easy access to astral for MR items and spells. Might be one way to go about it. Not sure.
>>559492969Golem summoning for casting antimagic might be cool.I don't know if golems soak up dream seduction attempts, but they should be viable for being geared to kill geared seduction demons.
Shit, Internet goes out as soon as I get my SI turn
>>559493749They do iirc
many months to merrow
So I finally got round to trying conquest of elysium and this shit is like crack.
>>559455449At least one of these people took Heroism and didn't name all their commanders.
>>559409385>who either have pop kill or blood access and I don't know how to fix that.Play Hinnom, the most moral popkill blood nation.
>>559503656Lel
Hinnom's our greatest ally
Summon Kitsune
>>559452317Get a damn bodyguard my man
>>559452317Bro...your duels?
>two years and two months since the release of Dominions 6>not a single AAR from an experienced player has been released anywhere>LucidTactics only has a single Dom6 series, where he plays himself and even then he does a lot of his turns live, instead of doing a proper AAR>it only finished very recentlyWhat the fuck is up with that? Hop off Discord, go on a wordpress or better yet: arrive in 2026 and make a substack and write an AAR about the games you playedYou ... you did remember to store all of your save files in a folder, right ... right, anon?
>>559521845Lucid is a black hole for the community unfortuantely
Which nation is the most bullshit to fight?
BasedTactics is gay.
>>559521845It's insane that the wiki STILL hasn't been updated from 5, and isn't even complete for that game. Where the fuck are the documentation autists? There's Minecraft mods with better information available online.
>>559522228>>559525329I guess people still haven't finished their games and thus can't make AARs about them yet. After Dom6 people, who like very big games were probably still stuck in their Dom5 games. And right now they are probably still on turn 50 in a game with 30 players on a huge map. Maybe in 2027 they can start making an AAR about it.
>>559525329regarding the wiki, the only person who had full admin stepped away from the community, which puts everything in a fucked up placewe probably need to start anew, but how not to end up in the same situation 5 years from now
Sex with goats
>>5595218454umz r dedI did try in that one 'dex game but people kinda bowed out as it happened while Putler was sending explosive doritos at the blitz servers.
Blood hunting on Hinnom is a fucking trip because a Melq with a stick has like en effective blood level of 8 and they've just been giving me 8-10~ blood slaves per turn.
>>559527323>we probably need to start anew, but how not to end up in the same situation 5 years from nowgithub.io and prs?fork and update links if abandoned
>>559538058order/turmoil scales?unrest level?number of candles?population level?number of blood hunters in one province?repeated blood hunting over how many turns making population angry?
>>559546663The average /domg/ veteran is far less likely to concern himself with the frivolities of git commits and PRs when he can edit an article on mediawiki and click save and have his work available immediately
>>559538058But is it worth it for the cost?
>>559550248what does other game wikis do, for big and small games?dominions is a small game regarding player base
>>559550248With how small the playerbase for this game is, a simple wiki with a mod team would just work. Less barriers to entry means more contributors.
>>559546852None of those affect the blood roll though (except the initial roll to fail due to unrest)>>559551103Might be cheaper gold wise than 2 of the 300g b1 dudes. 50(55)b is probably a tolerable price to empower a random indie commander.
>>559552310Fandom which is just mediawiki ran by the jews. If anyone is going to open one please use miraheze or something so I don't want to kill myself when I'm looking stuff up
Gave most skaven units a bit of poison resPoison wind globes and mortars now have magic projectilesBringers of Truth now have magic daggersDeath frenzy is now research level 3 and largenegatesSkaven labs are much cheaper in caves, but a bit more expensive everywhere else. Also labs provide significant immunity to Gnawing rats and help to remove it if it exists in a skaven provinceIncreased Range on fire wagons to 65Gave bastions a bit more resources and increased their population boostHowever, the complaint about forts being too expensive doesn't hold merit in my eyes. Their labs and temples are cheaper. They get the harmony mechanic. Not to mention bastions are basically instant pseudo-forts (PD trap heaven) and provide freespawn. I feel expensive forts are a commensurate penalty to all of these things. At best I would reduce the cost 5% or so. I might consider reducing the requisite PD to spawn a bastion as well, but these require further testing before I make a change.I gave all war wagons pierce and blunt resistance. May make further changes, but that seems reasonable for nowMoved Ice Maiden's Kiss to alteration, nerfed its AOE and damage, and increased its fatigueIncreased recpoint costs on kislev medium cav slightly
>>559558540So what's the qrd on this? I've been away from /domg/ for some time
>>559559196>IHATESOMBRE>IHATESOMBRE>IHATESOMBRE
>>559538058>Melq with a stick has like en effective blood level of 88 or 7?>8-10~ blood slaves per turn.wiki says d6 + levelhttps://illwiki.com/dom5/dom6/blood-hunting3.5 + 7 ~= 10.53.5 + 2 ~= 5.5your overall point stands, apart from success chance of hunting and repeated hunts causing problems
>>559555567some people mass blood hunt with like barbarians without empowering them
>>559559196people seem to like not-sombre-warhammer more than the original sombre-warhammer"warhammermodfag" appears to have put a very large amount of time and effort into not-sombre-warhammer
fuck kislev
>>559566498What if kislev fucks you first?
>>559566792they will have to try a bit harder than this
>>559559445once your has been playtested and refined more, and eventually you and players consider it to be in a good state, will you upload it to steam and elsewhere?
>>559568956maybeSombre is a mod on the steam forumhe might be a bit mad that I have been actively promoting an offshoot of his mod through countersignalling. Also having my 4chan persona of "warhammermodfag" attached to my steam account might be inadvisable
>>559570219>Also having my 4chan persona of "warhammermodfag" attached to my steam account might be inadvisablemake and use a different steam account using a different device not used for anything else and a different ip where the ip is not tied to any geography near your home?if that is a practical option for you and not too much work
>>559570219or maybe just let someone else upload it, i guess
Chinese mealmin can you set machaka as AII can't believe we restarted so this guy could abandon the game
that moment when you do things that you should be ashamed of, but then remember that is what it means to be a dominions player
>>559573785What?Blood nations?Just don't use blood magic. Constrain yourself and use that as an additional challenge. Extra points if multiplayer while still sweatily playing to win.
SIRS, THE HORRORS
>>559573785Reminds me of completely stabbing someone in the back to my ultimate advantage and feeling like shit doing it. Haven't done it since those randomly gen'd nactions, I'd rather lose than do it again outside of some cut throat tournament situation.
>>559573785>>559575706Why not announce before the game or at the start of the game that the game is meant to be utterly and completely cutthroat, such that it becomes a learning experience without real consequences for everyone involved?
>>559574328>>559575706>>559583820what if I was talking about ... imprisoned incarnates???
>>559558540i think rebalancing the cost or research level for some of the dwarfs evocation runes is needed. like i could be spending 15 fire gems on a wand of wild fire, which even with forge of the ancients, rune of crafting, and a hammer costs more than a rune of fire at 4 gems for a worse spell at the same research level. in general i think giving dwarfs a national discount on items with bound spells would be pretty fun and give you an actual reason to make them. the only pain point i see with dwarfs ATM is it is incredibly hard to give your army poison resist. rune of valaya costs nature so i had to spend 50 nature gems empowering a runelord and it only does an aoe8 pr spell at the start of battle
>>559316504*casts orgy*
*casts recieve orgy*
>>559594357>recieveBrainlet.
>>559594965nyooo.....
>>559596650>>559594965
>>559583820>hey guys I'm about to betray you xdYou would get laughed out of any elven or fae council
>>559563423Yeah but I have a passive trickle of blood plus the 20~ slaves the Melqs bring in so I don't have to be a ghetto nigga.Muggles have a 10% chance of success vs a B1+stick's 70~ >>559563264>8 or 7?actually 7Supposedly the ratio is better in LA
>>559594357*unzips*
>>559572935Ah shit, he's at the bottom of the list and me at the top so I hadn't seen that he's been stalling like that.Done
>>559597018Ingame is not the same as out-of-game.
WE'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>559599492>>559594965
>>559598239Isn't blood usually meant to be scaled?
So I finally came back after not playing since Dominions 3 in another life. How do I not suck?
Belial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the double turn :)
RISE AND SHINE, SQUIGGERSI NEED TO SEE IF I'M FUCKING DEAD OR NOT
>>559600994Welcome back.The good news is that barely anything has changed so just do whatever you did back then.Basically:>you no longer decide tax policy, it's all automated. Also no roads, etc. Just forts, labs, temples and PD>new Glamour magic path. Stole a bunch of spells from air and added some more of its own. Generally lackluster because most of the stuff it has is rather situational, but there's some fun stuff in there. This has been a major nerf to air focused nations>cavalry are now two separate units: horse and rider. Pro: more HP per unit, the horse and rider can go on after the other one dies, and if one makes it back home (which horses do automatically sometimes) you can get a new unit at half price. Con: the horse is pretty much always a weak point and many mounted units are now significantly worse>turns are now "in real time" instead of strictly phase based, but the AI doesn't account for this when aiming, so now your ranged units will constantly shoot behind charging enemies, or at your own advancing frontline if the enemy is retreating>there's been some adjustments here and there to move away from the SC focused meta. Armies are now more relevant, and it's rare to see SCs like the days of old. In-army SCs or heavy thugs are much more common, and armies don't really stop being relevant late into the game. Buffing magic is more important>major bless revamp. Good old Mictlan with a quad major bless is now thing of the past. In fact, there aren't major and minor blesses anymore. Customization is higher, but power is lower>to compensate, we have a few new front loaded nations that will wreck everyone in their first war
>>559594357This is one of my favorite images of all time. Something about the expression.
>>559612006R'lyeh being this way both in and out of the game is meta, chud
>>559612006He's busy dreaming
>>559605952>>559594965
>>559612006Literally me on the left
>>559612006How long have the game been going for? Has micromanagement increased? Could make the time per turn longer if turns are large.
>legions don't support each other unless they're adjacent at the start of the move, you can't move a legion adjacent to your big guy on the 1st canton and then into a battle on the 2nd canton expecting support for itGood thing I learned this the easy way, would have eaten shit if that was a melee 10 strider
>>559619948its turn 9. its an extremely large turn.
>>559620206Wait they level up??
>tfw the ritual workedStraight to the City of Dis Nuts>>559620206Are you sure you got that right? The way I understand it, a legion always gives support to battles in all surrounding hexes. Movement is irrelevant: it only matters where everyone is at the moment the battle takes place.The important detail is that battles are always considered to happen in the defender's hex>>559621128Yes.Also something I found out short ago: they have melee first... If you've got a conflicting trait like ranged first, only the higher level combatant applies the trait. In a tie, the defender does.
>>559585807>think rebalancing the cost or research level for some of the dwarfs evocation runes is needed. like i could be spending 15 fire gems on a wand of wild fire, which even with forge of the ancients, rune of crafting, and a hammer costs more than a rune of fire at 4 gems for a worse spell at the same research level.sure but, you have to compare it to the ability to just cast fireball normally that most nations havespending 4 fire gems so that one guy can spam an evocation seems a bit steep. However, this is a novel idea in dominions. There are no other mods like this so far as i can tell. So the costing is definitely uncharted territory.Open to input. But come to it with the right frame. Don't compare vanilla items to runes. Compare runes to the vanilla combat spells they are supposed to compensate for losing
I will fuck ryleth "players" to death
>>559621128I'm sure they could level through victories, but the destruction ritual that summons one creates a lvl 3 one (with variable promotions apparently, I thought they were all melee 10)>>559621392>battles are always considered to happen in the defender's hexOh. Ok, now I actually properly understand support after weeks of these lobbies. I thought, legions always support all legions and PoPs in surrounding hexes regardless of the battle's canton.
>>559621760Do item spells cost spell fatigue? What about armor encumbrance?
>>559621760Another possible advantage is reliability. With an item spell on a non-mage commander, it is reliable and predictable what spell the commander will cast all battle. Less flexible, yes, but also very reliable.
>>559623731>Another possible advantage is reliability. With an item spell on a non-mage commander, it is reliable and predictable what spell the commander will cast all battle. Less flexible, yes, but also very reliable.I have considered thisAnd it certainly puts an upper limit on how powerful the runes can beBut bear in mind that 4 gems with no possibility of a forge bonus also puts an upper limit on the number of them that you can have. You only get so many gems per game. Whereas gold is much less limited. You will always have more commanders than gems to equip them with.So it aids the dwarves a lot more in the early game than the late. But yes, a very good point to consider>>559623256I believe so, however the 4 elemental runes (not counting the rune of thunder) have attached ranged weapons and those weapons have flat fatigue costs
>>559623127holy lel
>>559621760>Open to input. But come to it with the right frame. Don't compare vanilla items to runes. Compare runes to the vanilla combat spells they are supposed to compensate for losingGood point, >>559129693 is arguably significantly worse than falling fires in a single cast, due to the large difference in AOE, AOE1 versus AOE6+.The range and precision is rather significant, though, and is more reminiscent of Evo8 pillar of fire, less range, but more precision.I don't know if dwarves can get farflight buffs going, but if they can, maybe from a bless or from an independent air mage, I wonder if the rune weapon would benefit from it, making the range even longer. Far shot bless is cheaper than far caster, A2 for 30% versus S4 for 50%.And missile commanders can be scripted to fire rear, right? Unlike spells.Modeling it as a weapon instead of as a spell imposes some challenges. Fitting it into Dominions might be difficult from the perspective of a mod maker.
>>559625530Does Dominions modding enable disabling a weapon benefitting from farflight?
>>559625530>The range and precision is rather significant, though, and is more reminiscent of Evo8 pillar of fire, less range, but more precision.>I don't know if dwarves can get farflight buffs going, but if they can, maybe from a bless or from an independent air mage, I wonder if the rune weapon would benefit from it, making the range even longer. Far shot bless is cheaper than far caster, A2 for 30% versus S4 for 50%.>And missile commanders can be scripted to fire rear, right? Unlike spells.>Modeling it as a weapon instead of as a spell imposes some challenges. Fitting it into Dominions might be difficult from the perspective of a mod maker.Those are very good considerationsMaybe I will reduce the precisionAnd maybe I will reduce the range a bitWhat do you think about the amount of fatigue?I could also just give them ammo instead. And that would prevent relief/renivig shenanigans
>>559625530>>559626447something else to bear in mind is that these weapon effects don't scale as the mage has higher path levelsWhich makes dialing in their balance difficult as well
Sorry Agartha, but I'm not completely retarded. Did you think I wasn't paying attention to the cave?Enjoy this hellwar. You've earned it.
>>559626447I am not sure, it seems difficult to figure out.The aspect that bothers me the most is the potential exploitation of "fire rear". All the vanilla ranged items tend to have either very weak AOE (thunder bow has 1 capped damage AOE, as an example), or have lots of weak missiles, or be gated at Const7 like bow of war, and the ones without AOE can be defended from with air shield and some of them with regular shields as well.Even if giving them short range, far shot bless could be stacked to +150%, maybe also farflight spell buff, and if nerfing their precision, multiple dwarf artillery batteries would still be able to focus the backline in larger battles with more targets to hit.I don't know if this is a case of something that is impossible to balance. Though it would probably require testing in practice, maybe it is not as much of an issue, or it can be balanced.I would be tempted to propose turning it into a regular item spell, but you must have considered that already.
>>559628560I rush Ubar every game if I have the chance. Good luck, and I'm glad you won't just rollover. Still, that's lucky you had a good PD type there to dump, and while I'm not hugely happy about that outcome I do have my 2nd olm province online so ...Lets be real, hellwars are the best wars. But given the 2 cave province exits, peace was never going to be an option.
>>559634030Your attempts at politeness are as limp and disgusting as your promises, loathesome cave gooner. I will spit on your grave and raise bazaars on your holy places. Inshallah, you will never see the light of day again.
Now hatesex
>Awake monster expander>Imprisoned Rainbow or Imprisoned greed titanThese are the only options in my mind, along with undying blood regen for humans & regen for giants, can someone tell me how to play the game in a better way.
>>559641685scales nation that scales well with dormant SC titan to kill any rush and make sure you realize your potential
How broken would it be if you could pit nations of different ages against each other?
Hopefully your next SI turn goes well :)
Hopefully your SI turns are going good :)
Hopefully your dominions turns are going good :)
>>559648680That is what the all ages mod is for. The shiet answer is it is a bloody mess.
>>559648680Surely all late ages stomp its past ones?
>>559656318Not exactly, but there is a huge bias towards elves and giants in EA; both have significant statline benefits that work well against LA units, and while its harder to elf thug into crossbow the indies in oneage are all MA variants which limits that problem slightly. There are still issues with those two, but going into a oneage game as an EA hellbless nation or Mekone can do alright.The above is ignoring that LA nations (and MA Caelum) start with citadels in oneage games, which is pretty broken. Also the ability to build citadels is powerful, but of lesser importance. The general increased reliance of EA nations for gems also works against them slightly, doubly so if the oneage game is running LA's site search frequency.
>>559604678>>turns are now "in real time" instead of strictly phase based, but the AI doesn't account for this when aiming, so now your ranged units will constantly shoot behind charging enemies, or at your own advancing frontline if the enemy is retreatingI mean the biggest difference I think, though I started early dom4, is that late game no longer devolves into turn 1 defensive ros/eq/etc.
Why's the coin not reflecting the total amount of resources I'm putting into it?
>>559659808you can only have 9 value of a certain type on a coin
>>559659808you cap at 9
Belial we waiting on your sorry ass again
Are the breath attacks of dragons affected by farflight and farshot?If yes, if getting both farflight and 5x farshot, how far can the dragon's breath attack reach?If no, can mods likewise limit whether a ranged attack can benefit from farflight and farshot?
i wonder if kristoff ever lost his virginity
>>559663624Good night cutie *breeds ur pop*
>>559675030farshot and farflight iirc
>>559675030they were briefly at the start of dom6, but covering the entire battlefield with dragon brap was too cool a visual for illfraud, so they disabled itI would assume it doesn't work for any "natural" (intrinsic) weapons now
>>559691049TY.>>559626447Can weapons from items be made "natural" or "intrinsic"?
Belial~
>>559692364Never mind, it's the #natural (natural ranged weapon) tag, not #bonus (intrinsic).They're both moddable.
>>559630139>The aspect that bothers me the most is the potential exploitation of "fire rear". All the vanilla ranged items tend to have either very weak AOE (thunder bow has 1 capped damage AOE, as an example), or have lots of weak missiles, or be gated at Const7 like bow of war, and the ones without AOE can be defended from with air shield and some of them with regular shields as well.>Even if giving them short range, far shot bless could be stacked to +150%, maybe also farflight spell buff, and if nerfing their precision, multiple dwarf artillery batteries would still be able to focus the backline in larger battles with more targets to hit.If your Opponent is doing this, it should be pretty obvious. You can change up your formation, cast some fire resistance spells, put some bait units in the back. Early game the precision is going to be a major issue when firing rear. And then late game you have tons of counters.Unlike a normal script, you can't rugpull your opponent with a big sneaky change in it. With runes you are pretty much stuck with the ones you have. So your opponent knows what exactly what they are up against (if their scouting is any good lol)>>559630139>I would be tempted to propose turning it into a regular item spell, but you must have considered that already.I could do that if this just turns out to be impossible to make work. my concern was that fire mages (or mages with matching paths for the other runes) could reduce the fatigue of a bound spell too much. It would also create a sub game where you only equip runes to certain mages in order to min-maxI try to reduce lategame tedium where I can
>>559691049>they were briefly at the start of dom6, but covering the entire battlefield with dragon brap was too cool a visual for illfraud, so they disabled it>I would assume it doesn't work for any "natural" (intrinsic) weapons nowoh that's possible actually>>559692364>Can weapons from items be made "natural" or "intrinsic"?yes and these runs we are discussing already are. Didn't want them to apply weapon blesses LMAO
Is buying manuscripts worth it compared to searching for them?
>>559575706>>559583820So let me share what I did to Ubar. First, I have 2 cave exits, one is 2 moves from ubar, the other 4. As I popped out of the further away cave, I get a message from Ubar asking me if I was going to be rushing his bumhole, that he needed 3 provinces, and that I should take mercy on him.I had already decided to rush him, but wanted to hide it if possible, so I offered to sell him one of those 3 provinces he wanted at 4x cost. The fucker actually pays up. I let him take the province without issue, and then try to pincer him with a large force coming out of the other cave. Ubar wasn't completely stupid because they PD dumped that cave exit, but still I think its fucking hilarious. >>559634507I'm going to break off a piece of that hero, smooth out the rough edges and then add it to my harem, where I will lick it at my pleasure or have it entertain great olms sunning themselves in the Ubaran desert.
>>559701173I really didn't have much of a choice, considering I spawned with two thrones in my cap circle and one of them is the Throne of Winter. War with you this early, under these circumstances, more or less precludes me from actually winning the game, so I pretty desperately wanted to avoid it - but I also needed that province no matter what. I would've attacked you over it if you hadn't offered to sell. In all honesty, you're not some sort of galaxy brained tactician for rugpulling me on an implied truce for 5 turns, and your smug "teehee we're not playing on Discord so it's okay to fuck you over lolol" message was extremely gay. I may not be able to win now, but you sure as shit won't, either.
>>559697365You never know what you'll find by searching, and the chances of finding what you actually need in any given turn are low. If what you want is on the market, might as well buy it and save time
>>559702739>not playing on DiscordNah, I'm a bitch there too. Backstabbing people and getting knifed yourself is half the fun of this game. Personally I'd prefer the suggestion of some reputation or similar carried by hinaserver tied to steam id, but that has significant issues of its own. Lets be real, this map + lobby was a clusterfuck to begin with, hence why I went Agartha. I don't have sight on your SW quadrant, but I assume that you are wedged between oceania and myself, leaving us in clear early conflict.> I may not be able to win now, but you sure as shit won't, either.Works for me, that's really all I wanted. I see an Ubar in a lobby, and I want to sink them, joining just for that purpose. The nation's fucking broken and I prefer to run over them than let them do their bullshit. And if the cost of that is my own game, then so be it.
>>559703716You're right about the map. It feels like we're doing a blitz. You have no way of knowing this, so I can't really blame you for it, but I didn't pick Ubar in hopes of a roflstomp; I haven't touched the game in about a year so I just picked something I hadn't tried before to get back into it. I didn't even really realize that it was a S tier naction because I haven't played much EA anything. More bad luck, I suppose. Anyway. I don't want to fill the thread with bickering, so I'm willing to agree that you're a bitch and leave it at that.
>>559704890Perfectly fair and reasonable. I wouldn't say that Ubar is an S tier nation per say, but its presence is quite warping to the lobby by practically requiring some type of spirit sight. Lategame Shaytan spam is a cancer that must be seen to be believed, nevermind trying to siege out Ubar once Iron Walls is online. Its also possibly the single most rush prone nation in the game due to its citadel mechanics, and often generates a response similar to MA Ermor. It has a significant enough diplo malus that I wagered I could get away with publicly airing my backstabbing without extreme consequence.
Hey guys, mr beast coming at you from the hyperborean no elf zone to beg /domg/ veterans to join my slops EA gameIt will be starting this time next weekhttps://hinaserver.net/game/22https://hinaserver.net/game/22https://hinaserver.net/game/22
>>559675030You can slightly increase the range of dragon breath by stacking strength, since the range is str/3. Good luck getting over like 12 range though.
Any other factions that fit this criteria? id like to learn the game in single player without the Ai being too retarded
>>559709593Just play Abysia or any nation with heavy cav and smash through indies ez pz
Why is it always belial players
>>559709970I mean to select as enemy opponents
>>559709593>id like to learn the game in single player without the Ai being too retardedYou're shit outta luck. There's an improved AI mod out there that helps a little, but the AI simply doesn't know how to play.Another important thing is that the AI doesn't play the same way a player does, so anything you learn about beating the AI is not going to translate well against players.The AI is a good opponent until you get good enough to beat it as is. Once you can do that, you're ready to move on to multiplayer. Consider it a backdrop, rather than the main learning element.That aside, EA Ulm, Ermor, C'tis and Sauromatia are rather approachable and straightforward, and also reasonably transparent and intuitive. They're a good start, with simple armies that make sense and straightforward starting magic. They'll give you a decent early/midgame
>>559710320That works, thank you
>>559558540YAAAYYY>spending 4 fire gems so that one guy can spam an evocation seems a bit steep. It is not steep at all, that spell is one of the best in the game and a Dwarven Hammer will drop that to 2 fire gems lol
>Mother of monsters pretenderMommy? sorry i mean mommy i mean-
>>559714501>no forge bonus
>>559709593ai can also be used to learn some of the end game mechanics that are rarely reached, a bit like playing in a sandbox once the game is almost won
>>559716651Interesting, writting this down as well
>>559709593AI can also be used to examine and practice force composition timings. Good examples are seeing what's the strongest army you can create by turn 25, what's the fastest you can get a wrathful skies army setup, how fast for X to deployed in the field, etc. For more serious games I like to play out a full game against 8x mighty ai, with the goal of deploying one particular tool against an opponent then attempting to develop into something new for the next. This way I can examine whats in the toolkit, and potentially see if there are any gaps that can be easily filled by the pretender or focused early play. I do utilize in-game diplo against the ai to have a bit of control over who I am fighting, but getting attacked out of no where is also useful experience.
BELIAL!!!!!
>>559725567>Game B Belial hasn't played yet>gotta go to bed>tomorrow I'll have to be the last one of my game, since no turns until I'm back from work>Belial will go on being the last one every timeI'm starting to understand the holy urge to throw a bastard into Tartarus
>>559726730Have you done any of the scenario missions? They're hard as shit.
Did the AI get a bit less dumb when it comes to gearing up commanders?I dunno but it's been putting out not-that-terrible builds every now and then. (saw some AI thugs go far in the death match and I just saw a guy who went AI early take out a player's stack with the help of an inanimate that had a frost brand)
>>559714793Not sure about any extra costs but cheap wands are pretty good when you compare them to how many gems you'd pay for a summon with similar paths.
>>559732380I think they might have had some hard-coded templates added to them. And people can also set a pretender and build manually for an AI when starting a game, I think.
>>559732582Similar paths that would be casting a similar spell I mean.
Do truns...
>>559732585I've seen a few AI thug assassins so far, like Pans or Skratti with a Black Heart, Boots of the Spider, and full weapon and armor slots. Definitely something hardcoded to nudge the AI into doing that, its too coherent and frequent to be random.
>>559732585W8 how?
>>559701173
>>559752038https://steamcommunity.com/app/2511500/discussions/0/4132683013931634924/https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3148797231
>>559739452*kisses and plaps gently*
Here we see Ulm downgrading over the years
>>559762323Well yeah she goes from Saxon to Swabian to Bavarian
Had a dream Bogarus was changed so you always started with the Patriarch, who was also changed. He now gave the entire army +3 defense using a new buff like a pseudobless and had something called Divine Thoughts 5. In a 5 Area range, at battle start, all allies are enchanted with an on death effect that triggers a spell. Each Patriarch was unique and had said spell determined at the start of the game, from Farstrike, to Slow, to Quagmire.
GayTactics is gay.
>>559760192Not him, but, KYS, faggot.
/domg/ is reclining...
>>559769438We ever do Disciple matches against other Dominions groups? Could be cool
>>559767920Kisses You Softly?
>>559772505Kill YourSelf, faggot.
Summon Fiends
Dance of the Morrigans
>>559763248LA Ulm is just what if Germany but in the Balkans
>>559762323Dont kid yourself, that brat in the middle is the most dangerousBitch can pump plate armor and magical weapons like nothing in a monthly basis despite being a "magic hater" faction
>>559781438You sound like you both are a degrader and that you also are degraded yourself.
>>559782726Your whole vibe is very strange, man.
Ulm only hates mages casting spells, ENCHANTING weapons and armors is entirely another thing, no?
LA Na'ba soon...
MA Mongols soon...
LA R'yleth gf
23 separate national lines that span all three ages, and Oman CONFIRMED, leaving two-age onlies confined to just actual ancient mesopotamians, carthage and its spinoff, oceania, machaka, and the sidhe lineWhere is it illwinter? Even holden bloodfeast got his wish and its just another bitter year with no merrow no matter how sincere I keep the pumpkin patch
has there ever been a compilation somewhere of theme songs people have chosen for each nation?
warhammermin, i found a bug for dwarfs. runelords on anvils can't equip any runes
hello! i can craft all the boosters that require fire,air,water,earth, astral, and nature paths or any other item you might want. the price is the base cost in gems for whatever item you want. no skaven allowed at the trading post of course.
Absolute Andromalius annihilation
>>559798269NO YOU STUPID CHUD YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT ME IN THE ARENA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>559798269LMAOOOO
>>559787614>sidhe lineEriu's the LAST of the Tuatha. Their successor state is LA Man
>>559798269>Andro gave Astaroth a vendetta instead of playing keepout forever>went all in on duelling and had no asymmetrical tools like forged orders or destruction zaps>hired a bunch of cheap infernal phase chuddies to block, only served to feed Blood of Chadstaroth expI saw this coming like 4 turns ago
>>559802050>>559800549>>559798431you all actually don't realize this was my plan all along. sad. my machinations are too esoteric for the rest of you it seems
>>559806332>inb4 this post is actually honest
>>559807390What if multiple people chose the same winner? Not that I did pick the crown of course...
>>559807710The game is intentionally obtuse about its details... It's not even clear how ritual dice rolls work, or even what dice exactly are being rolled.I'd assume that in that kind of scenario there'll be some tie breakers. Probably the higher infernal rank wins, since it's often used as tie breaker.There's probably a bunch more tie breakers, though. Maybe the usurper with the highest prestige, or the one that choose the puppet earlier, or whichever has higher powers. Fuck knows
Newbie here. How do I make managing a gorillion dead easier. Pop kill nations feel tedious towards the end
>>559807390Can you actually tell who has this
>>559814065Yeah, you need to hit them with the strongest Dark Augury version to scry relics. Needs prophecy 6, good luck.
Ulm women covered from head to toe in black plate armor
>>559814057>managing a gorillion dead easierfigure out a logistics loop, reinforcement queues, think of it like supply lines.never played asphodel but for therodos the freespawn ghost commanders are handy.
>>559814057If you have that many - who cares. Stick them on commanders and ride. There's either a boardwipe or it doesn't matter how they're arranged.
>>559817046>errything UW fortedPain.jpg
>>559821584why pain
Convince me to choose between dominions 3 and 6, which is easier to learn the ropes? I guess 3 then jump to 6?
>>559783073That's yourself you're describing, not me.
>>559823807Just jump straight to 6, nobody plays 3 anymore
>>559825350Oh
>try dominions 1>have to manually do all actions every turn instead of toggling a "do this again" checkboxOof
>>559793616ah shit
midday skeleton raise
Gnight domg
Belial....
>>559832529lel
>>559845353*kisses u gently*
>>559832529Oh hey that's the same in 3 as well
I don't care that evocations are badWatching a half dozen cheap mages with jars of fire artillery blast the enemy with eagle-eye'd fireballs is extremely satisfying.
>infernal monsoons and death takes a holiday on the same turnComfy NEETmaxxing hell for the next few turns
>>559823807for Dominions you're better of playing the most recent since that's all anyone plays
>>559850814>>559772849
>>559838651also, i think the rune of trade might be broken. i gave the rune to cathay like 15 turns ago and unless he's lying about equipping it in his cap neither of us has gotten any events from it
>>559869921I had it on this idiot sitting in my capital ever since I got it. On another note, N'kari is kicking my ass all on his own.
>>559863337Lel
>>559863337I'm gonna close the bazaar
How bizarre, how bizarre
>legion I spent three turns of tribute to purchase got erased by an eventFml
>>559316504goats
>>559892471>not buying insuranceIt's on you
Warhamanon, I'm not sure this is working as intended, whatever it is
murmr.........
Need ulm
trooncord is bad for dominions because of diplofaggotry
>>559926327I played one game on the discord once>met my neighbor>sent him a nice formal in-game message>he said he liked the message but unfortunately he had already arranged to split my territory with two other players on discord
>>559926327>>559927802dont forget the drama
>>559927802MASSIVE outskill right there
Sorry for my late SI turn, doing it rn
Need more tendies to make my bEAst of a sloppy game bigger and betterStarting on sunday in 5 days. Suggest settings otherwise its the usual throne per player and half plus one to winhttps://hinaserver.net/game/22https://hinaserver.net/game/22https://hinaserver.net/game/22
>>559754696the best part is that Oceania, quite smartly, decided to attack me too ... lol ... got me a high grade clusterfuck over here and I'm gonna enjoy it
Wheels..
>>559909374LMFAOyeah my b>>559876915I will take a look, that was a tricky one
>>559503656>Eats population in own provinces>"Alas, if they didn't deserve to be eaten alive they wouldn't have been born Jewish."
>>559953502could also try to play hinnom straight, forgoing any blood or population killevocation mages, archers, magic weapon infantry, tramplers
luv' me irondrakes. simple as
>>559961682they're probably the best scales nation of the age. they also have access to all of the archer buffs for your giant archer dudes
>>559964387their units are a bit on the expensive side, and they also don't have as much protection as some of the other ea nations, like muspelheim and mekonetheir archers are probably difficult to massmaybe awake expander or do trample tricks, and research, and then rely on buffs, evos and items to handle wars, never getting sacreds
>>559937451Ubar and I had been talking for a few turns before you attacked him
>>559969406with scales you can expand very quickly with the charioteers. dawn guard are great too but their archers really do a lot of work, i can't think of another nation off the top of my head that gets to cast every single archer buff. especially since it's the early age so they're shooting at low prot units most of the time
>>559978683>i can't think of another nation off the top of my head that gets to cast every single archer buffmaybe la jomon if ryujin countsea tien chiyou're right that it's very rare
Are there any tips for organizing logistics? I'm not used to having so many provinces and forts...
>>559982802Hotkeys? Use keyboard key '?', I think. Also monthly forging, auto-recruitment, etc.
>>559983315I was mostly asking about organization of timely reinforcements to the front.
>>559984458Temperature scales, recruiting troops with high map movement, moving items around using laboratories to increase commander map movement, recruiting cheap independent commanders, using items that give flight to armies, using rituals to teleport commanders or armies around, recruiting soldiers closer to the front or recruiting them as a garrison and build them up slowly, forging items that give increased leadership, scouting or anticipating enemy army movements, understanding phase resolution, summoning commanders with good leadership, taking a bless that gives sacred commanders increased leadership, etc.
>>559987173Recruiting or summoning flying troops.Also anticipate stealthy enemies. And that army reports can be manipulated by some commanders and items.
>>559984458I'll translate the other posts to make it easier for you:Just be an elf/caelum/nazcaPlaying Ulm/Abysia? Too bad haha
>>559982802What logistics?
>>559982802I just forget about half of them and set them to auto recruit something and 90% of mages to just research if they aren’t in an army.Maybe a few will be doing monthly rituals or forging.
>>559987384atleast abysia has hell ride and demons. ulm is so awful though, same with the agarthas
>>559963115Good night cutie!*kisses you*
>>559982802Are you currently at war?>YesKeep spamming and sending mages to your frontlines along with whatever troops you're scrounging up, unless they have specific paths to craft/summon/cast rituals and shit, then use them for that>NoSpam mages and have them do research and craft/summon, especially craft research itemsOr just spam anonymous spells at your neighbors to troll them
>>559994461Isnt EVERYONE always at war?
>>559995235You'd be surprised
can flying units leave a sieged fort?
>>559997453No
>>559995235I've gone entire games at peace with one or more of my immediate neighbors. Not ones I've won, but still.
>>560002705coolalso, is there anything anywhere that actually explains the morale roll fliers have to make to successfully reach the rear?for the last few fights I've watched a pretender get caught on a 200 strong squad, but shouldn't a pretender with 30 morale auto-succeed on any morale check?shit don't make no sense.
>>560014529>shit doesn't make senseWelcome to Dominions
>>560014529people tested it a while ago and found out that units following orders to hit rear or not is just completely random. the common knowledge of it being based on a morale check was just confirmation bias. the best way to get units to hit rear is to simply just have more squads so you have more chances of rolling correctly
>>560014529>>560015057Speaking of obscure mechanics; if you have troops patrolling a fort, it gets attacked, and you move a separate army onto the fort from a neighboring province on the same turn, will the patrolling units and the neighboring units join together in the fight, or will the moving army just go into the fort?
>>560017436they shouldn't join forces because the army will have already done their move order and camped in the fort before the enemy moves onto your province. the defender always gets to their province first
>>560017638>>560017436That said, you can tell your incoming army to 'Move and patrol' which will have them join forces.More and more often I feel like people don't know this one.
>>560017862yeah. unfortunately you can't sneak and patrol. that fucked me hard in 5 as helheim, i wanted to sneak out of a sieged fort and join up with guys on another fort but you sadly just can't
>>560017638>>560017862Nice. Thank you
>>560018992>reading this post>'huh, sneak and patrol'>open up a pending turn>realize the stealth mage commanders I had set to move and join an army were set to 'sneak' instead of 'move'oh boythat could have been real bad
I am hankering for a randomgen nations game. I have yet to see a multiplayer one in action
>>560023703They're great. They just need some anon to sit down for a while curating a bunch of functional but not brutally overpowered nations.Sometimes something sneaks by, though. One game I played no one liked the ichthyid faction. It was definitely quite crappy.Except for the recruit anywhere D2 stealthy assassin mages. I spammed that shit, got Horde of Skeletons, and annihilated the whole leadership of one nation after another.Great mod
>angels, monsoons, leviathan, and death on a holiday
>>560029230I didn't know the angel is also affected by the monsoon. Makes sense, but still.It's getting a little bit cramped in my corner, though
>>560027831I would do the curating. But I do not know how to generate the nations themselves using the mod.
>>560029230How many fucking actions can the angels take a turn because I saw it rape two legions at once.
>>559973143fuck that's even betterI think attacking me is clearly the correct choice for you though given the map + lobby, and that Ubar will potentially dealing with Therados. I don't have a huge cave, but having even a single olm spawning province can upend things.I only now get to see that Ubar's back was against the ocean; yeah, that's a pretty fucked start, but those do tend to be quite memorable games.
>>560034486I don't remember exactly how it went... I think you need to use a separate program that comes with the mod. It generates the nations (and you also can manipulate it a good bunch, like adding tags and shit to force certain races, magic paths, or whatever else you like).It's janky as shit but I did it once too and it wasn't that bad. Like a decade ago, though, so I don't really remember.>>560037748It aims to destroy the strongest legion of every player, I think also in order from strongest to weakest, and it'll will beeline from a target to the next using all its movement. If it can reach multiple targets during a single turn, it will.It goes around sites of power, but any legion caught in the way is getting a whooping too.Nice time to have teleporting abilities or misdirection rituals
>>560044283Can you redirect the Leviathan
>>559994062Kill yourself, faggot.
>>560014529>>560016026only way to truly tell would be to decompileor maybe do rigorous statistical testssince dominions has a lot of added randomized noise to obscure details and add elements of unpredictability among other aspects
>>559962531that one unit you can make, Irondrakes, is better than any unit I can make playing as the faction Skaven. And that summon undead dwarf with magic weapon move you can do, with the ethereal ghost dwarf with 15 attack and defense and a two handed magical weapon axe, is better than any summoning move I can do, and better than any unit I could recruit or equip. Don't be sombre 2.0 with gay-ass OP dwarfs beating everyone because thats who you like the best
>>560057197are the dwarves also more expensive relative to the skaven?are the skaven meant to be more like a spamming nation, like ea pangaea or ma ermor?
>>559978683>with scales you can expand very quickly with the charioteerJust give the hungry hungry hebrews an imprisoned blessYou cost 1 holy unlike the heim giants so you can get away with average dom.Secret Fact: Hinnom isn't a nation that can build *advanced* forts like Arco, their advanced fort is a citadel and you can turn your cap into one if you get helmut.
>>560057197yeesh dude. I literally just did the Dwarf reworkthis is their first test run. I am doing something EXTREMELY experimental with themIt will take a bit of tinkering to get the kinks out>>560059864yeah the skaven are supposed to be very spammy
>>560061714but the theory crafting was all about trying to figure out how to viably avoid their hungry units and blood
Turning.
Tuuuurning
>>560063825he's just being a sore loser. he sat in his little 8 province cave for 35 turns and didn't bring any mages to the first big fight. dunno why he's been on some crusade against me. i have an extremely hard time getting poison resist, but he didn't leverage that either
>>560085494like all he had to do was empower a plague priest in water, or skrolk which he had, and cast foul vapors then my entire army would have died
>>560085786>foul vaporsHow much research does he have? Foul vapors requires more research in Dominions 6 than in 5.
>>560091943it's turn 38 but he only had 2 forts including his cap so maybe his research is still terrible
>tfw Japanese train experience
>JAPANESE TRAIN EXPERIENCE INTENSIFIES
>>560095852Just like my fraud Anno!
>>560095852Who won????
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>>560097838Does this new serb have a working turn reminded feature? I never got emails from blitzservers
>>560097565Stalemate. The Angel is almost dead, but it hits first and the Leviathan is almost down to half health.If no one intervenes to tip the scales, the Leviathan will win but it'll be down to like 2 HP
>>560092710>>560091943Skaven are like EA Xilb. You have spam early game and mid/late game is all about the magic and summons. Turn 35 foul vapours might be too early (unless you go magic 2) but he could poison arrows or warp lightning spam or try to counter those iron drakes with Rat Ogres and Doomwheels. High quality skaven units are expensive and time consuming, but that’s why you go scales
>>560102903and tbf it did take me all game to mass those irondrakes. i only just recently got the ability to recruit them normally, and prior to that they were eating all of my fire gems cause they cost 9 gems for 4 of them. they should do a lot of work if i invested that heavily into them but i think skaven undermade globadiers. those things have more range than my irondrakes so at the very least they get a volley or 2 off while the irondrakes sit in a poison cloud and eventually die
>>560027831>>560044283Im doing it! Its easy! What nations do you guys want? Stat Upgrade is set to lower first (i think it means the nation will contain millitia tier units alongside more elite troops) Sacred power is set to high (powerful abilities) I think I can pick and choose nations from multiple seeds by manually adding and deleting them( though there might be id problems) I say we go for a total of 10, for now.
>>560102903if skaven are meant to spread everywhere with ease, and they have stealth, could it make sense to give their stealthy commanders tax collector, if they don't already have it?
>Ephor>doesn't have E4
>>560106251No humans, only cool stuff
>>560034486It's very idiot-friendly, but that may not be enough for a domg veteran.
>>560108334Once I am done, do I post the final version as a workshop mod? I will try to include, in the description, a rundown of each nation.
>>560098217No idea lol, I just obsessively refresh the page all day
>>560112885Yeah, same.>the one guy who might actually pose a challenge is going to stall again.Guess I'm researching bishop fish.
>Game is multiplayer focused>Multiplayer games can quite literally take from irl months to yearsWat
>>560115040they can also take a few hours
>>560115040Really depends on the people in the lobbyIn a game now that's fairly quick (1/turn a day) but one guy that's losing and only spends a couple minutes on his turn each day has started waiting until the last minute to submit leaving himself on unfinished.I choose to believe it's incompetence rather than malice, as the saying goes.
>>560112325I genuinely don't remember. I think you just have to share the mod with the nations package somehow, but there might be some other step needed. It was very long ago
Time to see if I can transplant nations from two separate gens.
>>560123690Each nation has its own string of numbers identifying it. Save the IDs you like and then generate a pack with them all in it, it'll make them all compatible with each other.
>>560123883The seed? Ok. Hopefully I understood correctly.
>>560127493There's an option to generate new seeds or to enter a list of your own. Do it like this>gen a bunch of nations from desired parameters ("this pack needs more *lves!")>cherrypick any good ones>take their seeds from the top of that pack's .dm (they're listed and labeled)>add them to a text file>when you have enough seeds, gen one big pack with all of them
>>560115040the longest i played in dom 3 lasted nearly 3 yearsit was on latus
There will be more than 10 final nations. Hopefully they all stand a chance of winning
>>560138234>3 years on latusLiteral man made horrors beyond my comprehensionWhat turn did that reach? And was there any population left in the world by that point? I've only been in a handful of games that reached past turn 100 and they all devolved into mass genocide wishing and a bunch of mages moving around massive hordes of summoned wolves and skeletons
>he insults me, refuses to pay tribute>move two legions onto his doorstep>”wait, let’s work together”Bro could’ve at least paid the tribute after wasting my prestige and orders and I would have been perfectly willing to be friends…
12 Nations have been chosen. Will write descriptions for each and post the mod on the workshop.
>>560146285>not saying who you're talking about
>>560145348It got armageddoned to the point the world was pretty much empty outside of unlimited amounts of shitty chaff summoned by the nature nations
>>560149561>3 years of this shit in latusWhy would you put up with that anonPls someone post the large full map image, we've got some newfags who've probably never laid their eyes on that unholy abomination
>>560149969This is as big as I could make it while keeping within 4chan's file size limit, but you can still see the borders if you zoom in. The original .tga file is 57.2mb and 5000x4000 pixels.
>>560153364Dear lord. Dom 3 was before they added thrones, right? No wonder it took three years if the winner had to take over every province.
>>560091943skaven also have a summon that autocasts it lol
>>560155752Thrones were a gay addition, might is right
>>560155752or cataclysm
>>560155752According to the .map file there is 636 provinces in total. Also, the .map file is 140k lines long, although it's mostly province borders, which can be painted onto the map in-game and the game will try to auto-generate them. Not sure the auto-generation was a feature when the map was first made however.
do your turns
>>560159908
>>560138234Mistletoe finished?
>>560162806>>560138234Oh I can't read. The longest game you played.>Llamaserver is functionally EOL'd without mistletoe finishingThis makes me sad.
Decisions, decisions.
oh god shits going down this turn
AAAASTARAOTH
gnight /domg/
>>560181707*kisses you* night!
>>560181914Live yourself, Therodos
>>560169828TL;DR: You're still alive. Correct that. KYS faggot.
Leviathan won. I think someone weakened the angel with a ritual. Also in the other game, Lilith is about to kill the angel with the crystal legion.
>>560181914>>560182019kys faggot
>>560190089>Lilith is about to kill the angel with the crystal legionDangerously based, I was rooting for him.I was predicting he would hire the vile apostates and have them support the guard to hit the angel for 7 more infernal, instead of his risky enfeeble (could have fizzled against the angel's 6 resist or hit a stat that wasn't ranged). Whatever he did is a good play though as long as his event promoted guard survives it.
>>560190089>ritualThat was me. I was hopping to kill it for shit and giggles. No idea what happens but I can imagine it should be worth a bunch of prestige or something.It resisted the ritual, though, so the battle was completely as expected.Turn 1>angel deals 5 + 7 = 12 damage>leviathan deals 23 - 4 (from the angel's Infernal Resistance) = 19 damage>angel down to 3 HP, leviathan down to 12>leviathan heals 1 HP -> 13 HPTurn 2>angel hits again for 12 damage before eating another 19 points and dying>leviathan survives with 1 HP and heals one more, so it ends at 2 HP>goes on to slap Beelzebub's shit because it can
>>560190089holy zased
>>560155752Thrones were a mistake
>>560153364https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3546454690
Bind Storm Demon
Was there ever an established 'date' for the ages?ie EA < 800AD, MA ~1100AD, LA ~1400AD just before guns?
>>560190682Come and kill me yourself wimp
>>560213893Bronze ageIron AgeLate Medieval
>>560213893I always thought of EA as around ~200 BC or so, shortly before Ermor steamrolled 1/3rd of the nation roster and reached threat status.
>>560213893I did a write up a few weeks ago.It's hard to tell. EA has stuff from 3000 BC all the way to 300 AC or so.LA also has lots of stuff that develop in the context created by guns. Marignon at the very least should have guns.If I had to pick a single year as the rough estimate of each age, I'd say around 500 BC for EA, 600 AD for MA and a weird gun-less 1.600 for LA.
>>560215763kys faggot whore wimp
>>560221217Link
Sorry its taking an extra day. Writing a rundown for 10+ nations is a bit of a chore
>>560233550No need to write much, anyone interested is going to check everything themselves anyways out of curiosity. Just write some erotic RP worldbuilding or leave it blank
>>560235030That is true, but since I plan to upload them to the Workshop, I think its only fair to give people the rundown
>>560235030>dominions erotic rpWHERE
>>560239808>he missed the erp gamesI'd let femdom Sauromatia trample me all over again
>>560241153FUUUCK
God dammit Agartha, I wanted to see the fight on my lunch break. HURRY UP
Rain of Blood
How can you faggots even keep up with multiplayer games for weeks? Such a mandatory schedule just sucks the soul out of on
>>560241936well its been down for a while, hopefully it comes back up before it rolls
>>560115040The devs just play it for cool singleplayer stories no? It's just compniggers insisting that it's only for MP
>>560251604yeah, sadly I heard that the majority of the player base is actually single player only, which is scary if you look at steam player statistics>>560251242well I can think about the world burning down, or how I can burn down other player's worlds. one is certainly funnier than the other
>>560252017>Steam statsCome on anon. You know this has been a niche series from the start
>>560252494fair, but I was hoping to have a spike break 1000 concurrent at least onceit feels like the player base is expanding but long hiatuses are common
>>560251242It's like one turn a day and they take a couple of hours at the extreme end. It's not bad. Usually I take my turn when I see it's rolled over, think about what I've done throughout the day, then come back to it later on.
>>560252967Exactly, one turn a day for weeks. That's a schedule
>>560253131More like months, usually. If you play vidya every day anyway (like me) you don't really notice the obligation.
>>560253269Oh no I do anon. I want to play vidya on my own terms. Not force a turn every day for however long. You know modern gaming has turned towards fomo, daily logins and whatever the fuck. I hate it so much. I just want to play a game for fun when I want to. Not have a second job to babysit. Even for an hour a day.
>>560251242It's addictive.You play your turn and have to wait up to a day, later in the game possibly up to two until you get the result of your actions. In the early game you're excited to go on, in the late game you're excited and anxious whether that plan you spent two hours setting up will actually work out. You have to wait for a day until you see it, but you can think about it meanwhile, maybe pop in for a quick change or two.I've been playing for almost 15 years now, with some pauses in between. Usually 3 games at once: once in the early game, one in the mid game, one in the late game. Occasionally more if there's a game starting and I see I'm about to fall out another game.Too much Dominions does burn you out and sometimes you just need a nice pause, but shit's just fun
>>560253567Some communities do 7 day timers for turns. Just go search for one of those. We usually do 24 hours simply because any shorter will result in people staling and it automatically fucks over anyone not in the most common timezone.
>>560253567There are blitzes for that
>>560254541Frankly all I can stomach is "staggered blitz" with friends. We boot it up and play all night. But it can happen whenever
>>560252680async games playerbase numbers are kind of fake. there's a lot of waiting around for your next turn with nothing to do so you close the game
Turns. Now.
>>560273630Turns AND bumps
AND kisses
>>560280123Dream seducing demon patrolled out*casts banish*
BELIAL!!!
>>560283746NYOH
>>560251242Sometimes When I’m deep into a game I’ll be thinking about it all day.Long async games are just fun, bot a huge daily commitment, but a LOT of personal investment. Same reason classic Diplomacy is fun or even Async Civilization.
