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>Falcom Games
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>Pastebin (aka music)
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>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
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>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
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>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
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>Kai MTL patch
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UPDATED: 02/5
>Kyoto Xanadu trailer
https://youtu.be/CelHI1lRCYQ?si=RV2dwP6A3CL5I98p
>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09CpH5vaZKM
>Trails Beyond The Horizon is out on Steam on January 15th:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3316940/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_beyond_the_Horizon/
>Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter is confirmed 2026.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4225980/Trails_in_the_Sky_2nd_Chapter/
>New footage for 2nd Chapter
https://youtu.be/TbzLprvv0bc?si=h2Ge5aMKRjzNW-SF
>Falcom's Shareholders Meetings 2025 Q&A thread
https://x.com/michsuzu/status/2001538421702168955#m
>Ys X Proud releasing on February 20th for Switch 2, PC, and also PS5
https://noisypixel.net/ys-x-proud-nordics-western-release-date/
>Trailer Ys X Proud
https://youtu.be/tB9S4XAj8pM?si=s5l3guOaM1WWkFEK
>Edia to port PC-Engine Ys, Dragon Slayer and The Legend of Xanadu games to modern platforms
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/edia-to-port-pc-engine-ys-dragon-slayer-the-legend-of-heroes-and-the-legend-of-xanadu-games-to-modern-platforms
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Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:

1. She is canonically atowable!
2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!
3. I love her!!!
4. Towacutest!!!!
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Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
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>>559484998
Cumdoll, not an adorable wife.
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duvalie handholding
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>>559480603
>talk to every npc every event change
>"wtf this game is so boring"
dont do that then
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>check Falcom's twitter
Is it official now?
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For me, it's Towa.
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>>559489757
It's not boring in Sky and Cold Steel, though, because it doesn't take up the majority of your time and there're both less NPCs to talk to at a time as well as more varied NPCs in general.
Why should I have to ignore integral gameplay elements?
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>>559492929
It's extremely boring in Sky and Cold Steel to talk to any NPCs that don't have a unique look not named Anton, or don't have a relation to some more important character like Mint's mother and father in Roer. The optimal experience for talking with NPCs is always your Antons, Oscars and Mints. Not the random townies with copy pasted stories from other NPCs.
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>>559492929
I think you only mentioned sky to sound like a justified oldfag. Sky doesn't divide their days like zero onwards and most npcs don't even have a story. If you actually try to talk to sky npcs every update you'll go insane because they all say the same thing, and cold steel npcs outside the school area might as well not exist.
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>>559492362
Juna is a womanlet?!
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>>559493640
That's simply not true. You've got a lot of different interesting NPCs in every area, and you wouldn't ever know who the "Antons" of each town, city or facility even are without talking to them repeatedly.
There's a generational conflict going on in Manoria village, for example, that you'd never know about if you didn't talk to the townspeople. The vast influence of the Fisherman's Guild wouldn't be known to you if you didn't talk to its many members across the land. Finding out that Jusis is an affamable young man who plays with the local kids is an entirely optional event. There're a lot of cute side stories that're worth keeping up with, and people who give their impressions on current events. Each town has its own unique NPCs who develop alongside the main story and contribute to the worldbuilding.
Now compare that to Crossbell: instead of having a whole bunch of different towns located throughout the country, it has one major city with multiple districts, two minor villages, and one hospital. Obviously, people in town will always talk about the same rumors and events, and since you don't travel across the country, you'll talk to the same people day after day again. Even Azure only adds one more location to this, and the three police academy NPCs never have anything interesting to say.

These problems are unavoidable if you consider that you always have access to every Crossbell NPC at a time, while Sky and Cold Steel usually limit your traversable area to one region or town at a time. Acting like they don't exist would be very insincere.

>>559494360
Mindbroken.
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>>559495140
From experience, there's so much shit that it's not worth talking to all of the NPCs to get the few gems. Plus, it wasn't Manoria with the generational conflict it was Armorica. Which I can be completely sure of because that NPC content then became a side quest where the younger guy almost signs away the village away to the same guy who scammed the Capuas. There's not really anything like that in Sky. But I thought Crossbell had terrible NPCs according to you... The Fisherman's Guild is a good example where Crossbell had a much better group of fishermen than Liberl, who stood out enough to be worth keeping tabs on especially in Azure with the Imperial Fishing Club rearing their head whereas Liberl's fishermen are all nothing characters.
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nadia rizz
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>>559496250
>Plus, it wasn't Manoria with the generational conflict it was Armorica.
Nope, Armorica goes through a similar conflict, but it takes place during all of Zero and Azure. Since you can talk to all of them at all times, Armorica NPCs are boring since they'll constantly mention the tensions between the village elder and his son, but stuff only goes down at the end of the game.
In Manoria village, the younger generation wants to buy and use orbment powered farming tools while the older farmers oppose the idea. It's unrelated to any quests and completely optional NPC dialogue, unlike the conflict in Armorica.
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>>559496843
Sounds like Armorica had the objectively better version of that conflict. Another point in Crossbell's favor while Sky's NPCs just go through the motions with nothing interesting.
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>>559496250
>The Fisherman's Guild is a good example where Crossbell had a much better group of fishermen than Liberl, who stood out enough to be worth keeping tabs on especially in Azure with the Imperial Fishing Club rearing their head whereas Liberl's fishermen are all nothing characters.
The Fisherman's guild started the trend and has members all over the country. There's Lloyd, the jobber, who you run into at the seaside cabin, there's the Fishing Baron himself (who's one of the hardest bosses in Sky the 3rd), and there is the wife of a nobleman in Grancel who takes up his hobby to bond with her husband but completely outskills him in a matter of days. These are fun characters whose little stories culminate in the Fishing Duels you can have in Sky the 3rd.
Can you tell me anything about Kopan or Peter from Crossbell's Fishing Guild? You can talk to them every day, unlike Liberl's fishermen, but I don't remember anything notable about any of them.
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>>559496885
>Sounds like Armorica had the objectively better version of that conflict
It's the same conflict but stretched out over two whole games, whereas Manoria managed to tell its story in the two limited times you visit it. How is that "superior" exactly? The result is that almost no Armorica NPC has anything interesting going on.
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>>559484079
5. Hur budd cann fard reel laude!!!!!
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>Van is unironically kicked out of the MC spot
There's no recovering him, bros.
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>>559497052
They're nothing characters unlike Crossbell's guild. None of Liberl's even come close to the receptionist in Crossbell's guild who joins to work up the courage to fish, and you see her grow into a fisherman across Crossbell and Cold Steel. Nothing in Liberl compares to the Fisherman Guild plotline with the Elite Four of the Imperial Fishing Club that you have to battle, and they were a lot more fun to fight against than the battles in 3rd. The Imperial Fishing Club set up in Crossbell then becomes highly relevant in Cold Steel. Proving how superior Crossbell was with it's NPCs that the plotline of the Crossbell Fishing Guild was relevant for like seven games.
>>559497153
No character or in Manoria is memorable while the conflict between the elder and his son in Crossbell is memorable and actually connects with other characters we know, expanding the world and building on Sky. No character in Manoria had anything good to say, while Armorica had a real story to tell instead of a plotline that went nowhere.
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>>559497552
Van is the unironic Potential Man of Kiseki.
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>>559497552
Vankid...
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>>559497552
Estelle stole his spotlight AND his bitches, the humiliation arc just won't end...
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>>559497552
Our protags and their partners
Lloyd...
Rean and Altina...
Rixia and Estelle...
Elaine and Agnes...
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>>559497552
Van saw those derpy faces from the artist and bounced off.
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>>559497552
>Estelle doesn't have a partner with her
Joshua really is a cuck...
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>>559497552
Lloyd x Altina
Rean x Rixia
Estelle x Agnes
Elaine x nobody

Canon pairings
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>>559497552
>Rean/Lloyd
>Rixia/Altina
>Elaine/Estelle
>No one/Agnès
This is now Canon
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Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>559497552
>lloyd/Rixia
>Rean/Altina
>Elaine/Agnes
>Estelle/the Bracer Guild's B rank
all cute, all canon
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Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>559488531
Both
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>>559497704
Crosscucks really don't like any other arc.
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>>559501627
Skyfag, you tried to say that all of the NPCs in Crossbell were shit. Don't be surprised when people prove you wrong.
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Why is it that it's always Skyfags versus the world?
Skyfags versus Crossbellfags
Skyfags versus Cold Steel fags
Skyfags versus Calvardfags
Is there a good reason why every other arc as a bone to pick with Sky?
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>>559501973
they always pick fights
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>>559492362
I refuse to believe Juna is that short, she looks Towa height, I'm actually crying.
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>>559497552
>Everyone ignoring how fruity Rean looks
Haha...
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>>559494512
>>559502207
She's wearing heels.
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>>559501718
>when people prove you wrong.
LOL
You didn't even understand the conversation if think you went out of it proven right.
Crossbell games took the conflict of one minor town in Sky that you visit for one chapter in each game, and used that as the sole NPC plotline for one of the only four major spots you can visit in Crossbell. That's by no means more interesting since Crossbell games spend much more time on the build-up phase (during which nothing at all happens in Armorica village) only to have the payoff be an optional quest.
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>>559502337
Crossbell had a satisfying storyline in one of it's towns while Sky had a bunch of throwaway dialogue that went nowhere. It's no secret that Falcom only got good at NPC dialogue with Crossbell.
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>>559502285
It's a promotion for woman, that's why Lloyd's also in a gay tight suit.
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>>559502560
This is bait.
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Herr Ragecuck arschloch status?
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>>559501973
They're bitter little faggots who are eternally asspained about Kiseki moving on from them.
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>>559483983
trails of subhumans
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haha...
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Why did Olivert never hit on Rean?
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>>559497552
Is Van really not that popular with chinks to the point they don't use him for marketing?
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>>559503790
van is just rins sequel they should have just made the misadventures of rin in calvard and it would have been better
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>>559503790
>Is Van really not that popular with chinks
A little bit more popular than Roido and Kebin, but compared to Agnes or Elaine from the same series, it's a total mogging.
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>>559504059
Brutal.
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>>559503790
>refuse to hype up like they do every other protagonist
>refuse to include him any of the marketing
>durrrr why doesnt anyone like van? must be because hes old - falcom
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>>559504059
>Van 31
>Lloyd 27
>Joshua 23
>Crow 25
>Kevin 18
>Ellie 27

>>Ries 36
Brooootal mogging by girl that likes to eat. Also why is Elaine #1? I don't remember the last time anyone talked about her yet she's apparently the best character in all of trails. Need to reach Calvard to experience her greatness.
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>>559505167
It's mostly just her design coupled with people hoping she'll actually be relevant at some point. If Falcom continue to do nothing with her in Kai 2 i think her popularity will sharply drop.
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Will the next game finally let us visit Epstein's Island and learn about the truth of the orbal revolution?
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>>559505304
That can't be all of it, surely she's funny or flirty or has a good arc, people don't vote people #1 based on hopes and dreams.
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>>559503549
He did though
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>>559505789
>Courageous
Man, Cold Steel II was so fucking good.
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>>559505789
lowballing it, Olivier would have sucked Joshuas dick if Estelle wasn't looking
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Check out my balance.
>500000 Mira
I better be able to carry this over into CSIV...
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>>559506168
>177h
dios mio
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>>559506168
nah, spend it
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>>559505693
She has a good backstory setup and chemistry with Van since Daybreak 1, they baited a pick-your-waifu between Agnes and Elaine in Daybreak 2, and the writers refused/had no time to develop her at all in favor of a lot of development for Agnes in Kai. That's it. I'm also surprised she's popular everywhere and not just the west (and I'm happy about it since Falcom seems to care way too much about polls and she'll most likely be developed in Kai 2 now).

But we can see you hate her already before playing the games, so one less vote for Elaine when you get to the arc I guess
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>>559506168
damn, that's worth 10k crow heartbreaks
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>>559507176
I don't hate her lol, she's hot as fuck.
It's just weird I don't see her discussed. Ever. Even Kevin get's more discussion than her.
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He won.
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>>559507641
People would discuss her if Falcom would've bothered giving her anything story or character wise, outside of just being Van's ex and being an A rank bracer
She's a fun and useful character in gameplay atleast
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>>559508038
ex-girlfriend? No way
Does that mean...?!
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>>559507641
what is there to discuss? elaine hasnt really been given jack shit in the story besides giving van the sad eyes all the time
they set her up with this whole story about her being promoted as essentially a publicity stunt for the guild and then they did nothing with it
i liked her enough in kuro 1 and had hope theyd develop her more but by the end of kai i got sick of waiting for her to do anything
who the fuck even taught her her sword style anyway?
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>>559508334
I see you have gripes but she is literally voted above Rean, Estelle, Renne, Altina. Something tells me you aren't giving her credit for something. Maybe she has some famous VA or she appears in lingerie so the gooners love her. There has to be something you are overlooking.
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>>559508669
Elaine was given the main girl resting bitch face, so it led to her scoring high in polls.
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>>559501627
I dont have any of the crossbell games as my favorite in particular, in fact I found it hella overrated esp since my favorite psp game was shat on by an aofag years ago. I just think the obsession with npcs within the falcom fanbase is so weird to the point even minor offense like this is being blown up so much. Like, yeah, who cares if it's poorly paced or being stretched for too long, they're entirely optional interaction that exist to show you how the society keeps going while you're busy fighting saving the world.
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/fg/ hates good characters if they're not very plot relevant, genuine character arc?
>waaah but what about muh plot waaah
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>>559508669
You give too much credit to fans/poll voters. Characters rank high for being le boobie girl or loli character #37. Maybe people like Elaine for her zettai ryouiki/thighs region.
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(Cold Steel III)
>Leave the Blazing Demon to me!
I kneel.
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>>559509482
leave her milkers to me
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>>559509150
Cuckdric is not a good character.
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>>559508808
>>559509174
So she's hot. She's so fucking hot that the other chicks'—Rixia's, Altina's, Estelle's, Ellie's, and Renne's—votes get siphoned out because she's so unbelievably hot? I see how it is. Now I really want to play Calvard.
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>>559509829
I beg to differ, he's already a great character by CS3
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>>559510208
I mean, that is literally what catapulted Altina to become a main character from 2 onwards.

But more to the point: Elaine and Van have a really cute reconciliation in Kuro 1 where by chapter 5 you can tell they are both in love with each other. And I think people, or at least me, feel for Elaine because the game finds way to unjustly cuck her out of a relationship with Van. Like, Van basically admits at the start of Kuro 2 were it not for Vagrants he probably would have asked her if she wanted to date him again.
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Cute and canon!
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>>559510770
Now you're starting to make sense. She and Van are ex-lovers that slowly rekindle their feelings for one another. But Kondo hates couples so it never materialized. Finally a real answer. Thank you, as an enjoyer of Estelle and Joshua I actually have something to look forward to in those games. Good.
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>>559510356
Cuckdrick prior to CS2
>bitchmade faggot with literally no lines, we just know he is weak and gets used by Cayenne
Cuckdrick in CS3 onwards
>having some Testa-Rossa cum residue inside him and dick riding Osborne harder than anyone meant some testosterone started circulating his body, and he gets a decade a strength in two years, and yet, all he does is talk shit and immediately get hit
There is nothing great about that.
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>>559511437
It’s more that Kondo or someone in Falcom realized that integrity and good writing should come in second to the profits harem shit bring, especially because the Japanese can be unhinged in either denouncing a work where a girl they dislike wins, and delusional in supporting a work and buying merch of a girl they like. Harem shit is literally more profitable than a one and done story. My guess is since Kondo is single he has no way of developing a relationship past the “chasing” stage.
And he said a draw of Calvard was a return to a canon relationship for the MC, even though Van is only second to Rean in women/girls creaming themselves for him, and Van is maybe the biggest moralfag in the series.
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>>559505789
Fatsuu's fanfiction.
やあ、リィン君
元気にしているかい?
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(Cold Steel III)
>it took the SSS all they had to scratch Arianhrod's mask
>Class VII fights her and McBurn at the same time
Haha...
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>>559511874
>And he said a draw of Calvard was a return to a canon relationship for the MC
He never said that.
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>>559512157
Well he emphasized that there won’t be harem in Calvard, so I would call that important.
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>>559512482
No, he said that bonding events wouldn't be the same as Van is an adult. Which is how we got connection events which are similar yet different.
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>>559511468
>waah plot waaah testa-rosa waaah what about the plooooot
Child, listen to me.
CS2
Cedric starts out as a kid that's constantly sick, considered effeminate and weak by others around him. Gets taken advantage of by people under him and almost fucking dies. He also did a Kevin and killed Crow while mind-controlled.
CS3
Shows up 2 feet taller
Trained up stronger than ever, aces all exams, forms a following around him and friends.
Not some background character but a guy that takes center stage
Growth is so fast people that called him weak a year ago call him too powerful now.
STILL blames his own weakness for everything and pushes even further beyond challenging the hero of Erebonia and others under him to improve.
While arrogant he comes around and apologizes to Kurt.
Asserts his position as the heir unlike Olivert who rejected it.

And from the few phrases here and there I heard about him in later games, this guy just won't fucking stop. He's still going full manmode. I don't care what you say, Cedric steals the show whenever he's on screen.
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(Cold Steel III)
Holy fucking kino...
Gaius >>> Wazy
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>>559512962
>Dominion need some kind of severe trauma to manifesta a stigma
>Gaius does it because some guy he meets offscreen dies offsceen
Kino
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>>559512843
He doesn’t, but if you like arrogance without substance that’s your call.
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>>559513238
Funny, that's exactly how I would describe your posts.
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>>559511468
>literally no lines, we just know he is weak and gets used by Cayenne
Alfin informed Rean that Cedric was depressed because he couldn't attend Thors together with him in the Reverie Corridor, and also reveals that Olivert was currently researching why Cedric's Arnor blood caused the Vermillion Apocalypse to go berserk in the first place. We know that Cedric was merged with an ancient Disaster and took someone's life in that state. It's not unthinkable for that kind of experience to have lasting effects on his pysche.
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>>559513321
kek
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>>559513321
Cute, but maybe get better at handling being wrong or liking embarrassingly bad written characters.
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>>559511874
I didn't see anyone throw a shitfit when Kloe/Josette lost but I guess times change.
>Harem is more profitable than a one and done story.
Not anymore :^)
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>>559513596
Your hatred seems irrational, all you can do is call others embarrassing for liking something you don't
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>>559514256
I threw a shitfit when Kloe didn't end up with Estelle.
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>>559513149
What was Wazy's trauma?
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>>559514537
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>>559514460
The only irrational thing is convincing yourself Cuckdrick is a good character.
Are you a manlet in desperate need of a power fantasy where you grow taller? Is that it?
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>>559514957
*headpats u
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>>559515213
CHADric broke you.
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>>559514256
They won.
Sky best arc.
Sky best selling arc.
Estelle is best girl.

All is right with the world.
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>>559514957
pov ALL your cum is about to be ruthlessly drained
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>>559516426
whatever you tell yourself, shorty
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>>559514537
>that ass grab
Lewd Kloe
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>>559497552
wtf is wrong wih their faces? this shit is uncanny
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>>559518206
Shoujo No Kiseki.
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>>559501973
Cold shiters larp as sky GODS to push that narrative and division.
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>>559511146
I want Yume's little tootsies wrap around my rock hard cock and massage it until cover them in my sticky dick-milk.
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>>559501973
Except it has been Reanspics doing this for 10 plus years because all they have known is people shitting on their arc as it happened and even after it ended.
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>>559518989
>>559519361
Samefagging AND made up narratives, as espected from a wh*toid
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(Cold STeel III)
Let me introduce, the P.A.N.T.Y Revealer!
It's pretty cool how your fellow old Class VII members stay behind to hold off your opponents to mirror the ascent of the Infernal Castle where you needed outside help to carry on.
It's a nice trick to keep new Class VII for the final boss fight and show how much all of Rean's classmates have grown.
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>>559518989
>>559519361
>>559519556
Vankid,calm down. It's Friday evening. Don't you have anything better to do?
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Hope nude and coomer mods for Renne will come soon after release.
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>>559497552
Where is Kevin?
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>>559519629
>Alisa 2v1s Crow and Sharon
haha...
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>>559514652
Being a ritual sacrifice on an altar by his village.
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>>559521525
???
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>>559513149
Every single dominion in this series that has an origination backstory was told by powerpoint slides. Gaius isn't really different in that regard
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>>559521672
I believe his backstory is told in his bonding event at the end of Azure. Those events have a lot of interesting lore for the characters, which is why it was weird that you had to save scum to see all of them.
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>>559521861
While technically true you can't really pretend Kevin's wasn't done justice.
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>>559521861
It doesnt feel like its that important to his character or development. It feels unearned, with every other dominion backstory having them experience heavy childhood trauma and losing the place they call home. If Gaius' entire family was murdered while he was a child, it would feel appropriate.
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>>559522138
Kevin had MC status so it was written into the story the best, yes
I dont think the 'why' is all that important anyway, which is why Wazy/Leon/Celis's are optional and Thomas's backstory is nonexistant.
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>>559522579
Implying Thomas doesn't have the second most fucked up backstory behind Ein. My headcanon is the spiritual power of the stigma is proportionate to the trauma they suffered to awaken it. What could have happened to them?
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>>559522579
Unexplored is not the same as nonexistant.
Because Thomas is unexplored it could be anything.
Gaius has an established backstory of being a country bumpkin with a loving family who was raised well and happily which allowed him to enter Thors with openess and kindness. Then you follow his growth in Class 7. Then he goes offscreen for ONE YEAR and returns as a Dominion.
It's probably one of the most bonkers stretches in this story if you ask me, it comes out of nowhere.
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>>559519556
>made up narratives
t. Newfag
>>559519705
Evening for you and here you are alone seething at your boogeyman. What’d you do to end up this miserable and pathetic? Should serve as a cautionary tale for the kids ITT.
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>>559522109
>his bonding event at the end of Azure.
Oh, that makes sense. Randy's and Rixia's backstories were told in them as well.
I wonder where that village was located.
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>>559522109
>you had to save scum to see all of them.
I mean that's slightly better than Cold Steel 2 hiding Thomas's identiy behind a mandatory NG+ run
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(Cold Steel III)
Helmut... I finally understand your rage.
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>>559522785
>It's probably one of the most bonkers stretches in this story if you ask me, it comes out of nowhere.
Wazy and Thomas reveals were pretty insane too. To give some credit, Barkhorn was at least depicted in passing in CS1/2 and not just conjured up in CS3 and killed off in the same game.
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>>559523219
It was a very kino reveal, at least. Someone told me to look up the ng+ scene after finishing the game and it was one of those character reveals that blew my mind. Kiseki has so much of those, though. I always think i'll be able to guess the next ones but I never do (until daybreak where I just assume everyone is hiding something). The Weissman reveal with his portrait changing to look directly at you is such unadulterated kino and such a good hook to keep people interested in the next game.
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>>559523820
>rufus is an unc
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>559523889
They're not that insane because they already had dominion status before the story starts and both Kevin and Ein are shown to conceal their identities so you would assume it's normal for these guys to be incognito.
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>>559524316
The Gaius reveal didn't feel the same way to me though, because it felt kind of tacked on and uninteresting.
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>>559524316
>The Weissman reveal with his portrait changing to look directly at you is such unadulterated kino
While I largely prefer the remake, not having this or Estelles drugged glazed eyes at the end of the game lowered it from the original for sure.
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>>559523889
nta, but Gaius’ stuff is a literal asspull
He was pious because he prayed and his people are on average more spiritual than most, but that is a shit justification for making him a Dominion and it feels tacked on. Because the only other things he had going for him were being a painter, or fucking off with Linde back to the mountains and starting a family with her.
With Wazy it at least explains why his gang seemed so much better put together than Wald’s, and it helps explain how the different sects of the Church don’t really interact much beyond knowing they exist and are clearly not united.
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>>559524653
On the flip side, I liked seeing glimpses of Weissmann's eyes throughout First. I think for anyone not in the know they probably tipped them off that he's no good but it was a cool touch to see glimpses of him behind Alba.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efn1axrRJ1s
Eh, I still prefer the old version.
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>>559526516
That happened in the original game too, he briefly opens his eyes while talking about the Aureole on top of the first tower.
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>>559527372
It happens a few more times in the remake. Like at the start of Chapter 4.
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Any of yall have a "Guilty Pleasure" character?
I'd say mine if Rufus. I really was charmed by what they did with him in Reverie and enjoyed his development as well as how ruthless he was in CS4 (also his en VA is incredible at his role holy). Safe to say he's up there with my favorite characters, at the same time I think it's really fucking stupid how the game paints it like he got any real punishment for his previous actions at the end, which we know after Kai is complete bs and he's still rich and can do whatever he wants. I want to see this nigga atone and suffer some sort of way instead of just getting off completely scot-free.
And don't get me started with Duvalie or really anyone who should've been deeply affected by what he's done (Rose, Vita, ect).
Duvalie specifically really was just kind of messed up to me. I could go in great detail on how I would've rewritten it. Basically though, Duvalie coming along the ride with the picnic crew and even visiting Rufus in the hospital by the end is just really stupid and rubs me the wrong way for obvious reasons.
I know stuff like this isn't exactly new to Kiseki, but I think Rufus is one of the most egregious examples and easily the character I like the most out of said examples.
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>>559528562
I never got the Rufus glazing from anyone in Kiseki or out of it, especially because of the Duvalie stuff like you mentioned.

I guess for me it would be Musse. I like the energy she brings to New Class VII and how she bounced off uptight people like Rean Altina and Kurt while also making fun of Ash. But goddamn is her backstory unbelievable. I honestly don’t know what they were thinking or how anyone would buy it. Not even artifacts or Sept-Terrions have made me fight my suspension of disbelief as much as her backstory did.
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>>559528562
Cao.
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>>559524447
Because Gaius as a whole was uninteresting. "Haha...wind!", was his whole character.
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>>559528562
Can't think of a character that's badly written who I like. Maybe Laura if you consider static characters bad.
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>>559529589
They tried too hard to make her look smart. A character that more or less just amounted to none of the actual hype they kept droning on for.
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For me, it's Juna.
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>>559529687
Gaius is a bro from the foreign Nord Highlands.
That's interesting in itself.
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>>559522786
Vankid... calm down okay?
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>>559530232
>That's interesting in itself.
Just being foreign and kind isn't interesting. Especially when the majority of your dialogue either was "..." or "wind" and had nothing of value.
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>>559530232
Potential to be interesting, sure. But it was never built upon. Its bizarre to me that falcom has pushed him so much in dialogue recently, yet don't want to dedicate any actual screen time of him to expand on his character. They think just saying he's reliable and strong is enough.
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>>559529589
giving her some bullshit magical power would be more believable that "she's just really smart, guys". i love her teasing/flirting side though so i just ignore the chessmaster stuff
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>>559528562
Either Kasim or Shizuna. Every complaint people have of them are valid, but I can't help but enjoy when they're present.
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>>559530145
Yeah. To add salt to the wound she also recruits Aurelia and Vita to her cause while also having a small army!
Like…what? Who would buy that? The bit about Aurelia’s family serving Musse’s came as an asspull to me, haha…
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>>559529589
>I never got the Rufus glazing from anyone in Kiseki or out of it, especially because of the Duvalie stuff like you mentioned.
My process of liking Rufus started back in CS4, I considered him a good Villian and he wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty, the stuff with Lianne was gut wrenching and well executed. He wasn't one of my favorite characters but I was glad with how he was in the end.

Come Reverie and goddamn I didn't think I would end up having any ounce of respect for Rufus but I just got too charmed by the interactions with him and Lapis I was annoyed at myself.
Honestly I think it would've been a very nice send off if he actually died at the end the way he intended, showing his growth throughout Reverie and also atonement for what he's done.
Not that I think death = atonement but if they're gonna keep him alive I just can't believe he's so buddy buddy with everyone and there's just 0 hostility or punishment, it's cartoonish when you think about it.
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>>559529656
I'm curious, what do you like about Cao? I find nearly every time he's on screen my eyes roll personally. probably one of my least favorite characters.
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>>559528562
Angie. I've watched enough anime to not be bothered by anything she says and she's pretty cool to play as.
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>>559530145
She was one of those 'tell but never show' smart characters. We're constantly told how she always predicts the right outcomes, but we're never showed the actual reason or logic behind it. She might as well be a tier under Elysium in calculations.
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>>559531585
Are you a foid?
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>>559531157
i just headcanon that Aurelia is the real mastermind
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>>559531585
her hate is seriously forced (people putting her at the BOTTOM of all characters tl because of her trope is insane) but its undeniable shes pretty one note and uniteresting after CS2, I never minded her much but shes just meh for me.
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>>559531187
Yes, I frankly think it is character assassination for Duvalie that she didn’t seriously try to kill him, or that she’d deign help him at all.
I do also think the conversation he has with Lapis about not knowing who he is is easily his high point, but I have said this before, I dunno who wanted a Rufus redemption arc because I know I certainly didn’t. I never hated him or anything, but I never found him or any Iron Blood very interesting.
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>>559533206
Calm yourself, Jusis...
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>>559531467
I just find his shtick incredibly funny. I want to see him scheme his way up to being in some impossibly high position. I want to see him humiliate Aaron again. Even in Crossbell he was fufuing on top of tall buildings and talking about crushing his foes with his intellect. The Ashen stuff is shit though.
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Is it bad that I went with Randy over any of the girls in both Zero and Azure for Lloyd? He just felt like he had the best events with Lloyd...
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>>559533814
the allure of randy, haha…
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>>559533814
Fujo...
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>>559533814
There's nothing wrong with that, say your piece KING
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>>559533331
Don't get me wrong I love Duvalie, I mean who doesn't like fucking Duvalie but yea it's sad how she was treated by writers. Gameplay wise she had a massive glow up, I love playing her in Reverie.
Now as for the writing she should've just won to Rufus and even tangle with the thought to seriously kill him. This would have been great to show her resolve and growth after the death of who she basically saw as her goddess. Unfortunately she is treated as what I can only describe as a gag character by Falcom, it's gross.
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>>559535152
Yeah, I was taken aback by the fact we DIDN’T play as her for that fight. But oh well, no use crying over spilt milk. I just hope if/when next she shows up, she is not around the Picnic Squad.
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>>559533814
>>559534621
>>559534883
SHOWER. NOW.
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>>559535536
Haha…
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>>559535152
Rufus is way too strong for someone like Duvalie to even consider beating.
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>>559531585
/fg/ only actually hates her because she does what they want to do but gets away with it
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All they had to do to redeem Rufus was give him a cute loli.
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>>559535929
the cutest!
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>>559535854
She's one of THEM... She wants Lloyd and Randy... She wants Rean and Crow... She wants Van and Rion...
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>Final Kiseki game has the cast all come together one last time
>They make it to the final boss and do their whole generic friendship speeches and one word sentences to show they're there
>Great Collapse happens anyways
>Game ends with, "To be continued..."
Do you rike it?
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>>559536125
...and Cedric...
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>>559536871
AND Kurt? She's dirty... Someone needs to clean her.
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>>559501973
This but Calvard
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The downturn in Trails music is probably the worst thing about it. I think Ys X kinda avoided that by comparison. Wht's going on?
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>>559537291
Van wrecks Lloyd even without using any of his special powers...that's how large a gap between them is.
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>>559537502
I thought Kato got stingy and wanted to outsource music/he let too many jdk people go.
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>>559537502
Calvard has the best regular battle music in the series at least. If it wasn't for it being the arc where I can blast classic Kiseki music I'd probably be jamming out to all of it's battle themes regularly in the games instead of just outside of the Garten.
Worst was probably Sky? Sophisticated Fight is great, but Strepioso Fight is awful to listen to over the course of the game. Heated Mind in CS2 was a bit of a stinker but it's easier to ignore in the context of Cold Steel as a whole when it's in the shortest CS game of a four to five game arc.
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>>559537954
>Best regular battle music
>better than Get over the Barrier
>better than Glint of Cold steel
>better than Burning Throb
???????????
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No bath time for me.
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>There's an anon that unironically self-inserts as Anelace
This explains much
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>>559537502
Sonoda lost his touch while Koguchi and Singa are shitters
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>>559539251
Anelace-chan…
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>>559539474
imagine her fat bracer hog ass after a long day of saving cats
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>>559538252
Get Over the Barrier is a little overrated. Takes too long to really get going for my tastes. A regular battle theme should hook you immediately.
Glint of Cold Steel is great, but I just don't like it the best.
Burning Throb is forgettable.
The best regular battle theme is a toss up between Sophisticated Fight and Regain the Administration. But what I was really referring to was the average quality of the Calvard regular battle music. All of them are pretty good, even though Kuro 2 and Kai essentially had two regular battle themes both were a pleasure to listen to. Calvard just has a nice tone to it's regular battle themes that make them better to listen to over the course of the game. They're more chill, even the upbeat ones.
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>>559539338
But is it a true femanon like Reanasis or Weissmannfujo, or a "fem"anon?
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>>559540903
No woman chooses Anelace.
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For me? It's Rean.
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>>559541487
Fuark he's so cool...
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>>559541967
My fuarking hero...
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Does someone have the clean CSII soundtrack illustration?
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>>559541487
Altina...
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>>559541376
Proofs??
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>>559535912
Is he though? I never got the sense that in a straight up fight he would be too much trouble. Rufus was a sort of jack of all trades dude that was good at everything, his standout skill to me being scheming given what he does in CS2.
Rufus is no pushover, but neither is Duvalie. If their conflict was Rufus was in a siege/being besieged by Duvie, and they had to command people and take the lay of the land into account I could see Rufus being the victor. In a straight up duel to me Duvalie has the advantage. Even taking into account in-game events I would give it the edge to Duvalie. Rufus only really wipes the floor with Class VII at the end of act 1 of CS2. By the end they are holding their own against a somewhat tepid McBurn, and Duvalie made them struggle all the while she was holding back. I think CVII could have taken Rufus on straight up in a fight by the time of the IC events.
>>559535929
It still rubs me the wrong way that she became totally Rufus-brained because she believes he could distinguish her among her copies, and all he did was know where she was because he put a tracker on her, haha…
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>>559537502
For some reason after cs3 falcom wanted more musics in their games so they told singa to compose a huge amount of stuff yearly. Like, FC had two or three boss musics at most but horizon had TEN. Of course it's going to be shit.
I don't think it has anything to do with the old band or jindo being fired for his position because even he never composed that much.
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>>559542595
Anelace is in the same game as Estelle who all the women who play Kiseki pick aside from some Kloes.
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>>559542761
What about the autistic women? Estelle and Kloe are too normal for them.
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>>559497314
YUR budd cann fard reel laude!!!!!
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>>559543284
Youuv weihj!
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>>559543194
Autistic women are more likely to pick characters like Tio, or Fie. Not Altina though. Sky doesn't have a character for autistic women so they're more likely to hyperfocus on whatever boy they like.
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>>559543865
Ohh, like Weissmannfujo.
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>>559543865
>>559544350
And that Richardyume.
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>>559543865
>>559544350
>>559544552
Wait, so that means some of those Joshuafags... are actually autistic girls???
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>>559544815
Maybe the anon hat gets annoyed whenever people joke about Joshua being a cuck, but not the rest.
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Hold on just a second, the most autistic girl that posted here was Fanfic Femanon, who is a Laurafag. How does that track?
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>>559545062
Laura is similarly developmentally stunted.
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>>559545168
Naruhodo...
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>>559545062
Laura is literally an autistic rapist.
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>>559545062
Laura has sword autism and struggles to express herself outside of it, even though she clearly wants to. Her whole beef with Fie is a classic example of an autist struggling to relate to someone that they want to because of something minor said or done that upset them. Not helped because of Fie's struggle to relate to people; much like an autistic person meeting an even more autistic person, they end up clashing angrily.
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>>559546750
I struggle to think of another game that depicts this particular situation like this. Usually when two people are mad it gets heated or at least one will try to provoke the other. But this is just a case where two people are coldly avoiding each other and neither are escalating to any actual hostility, just silently refusing to cooperate instead.
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>cold shit had many years of planning, yet the actual end product was a fucking disaster that ended up being too stretched out
>calvard had 0 planning and is also a stretched out disaster just like cold shit
Haha
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>>559547389
I really don’t think any of the last two arcs had much planning to them.
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>>559547571
Cold Steel had a bunch of story hooks dropped in 3rd, Zero and Azure.
Daybreak has quite literally nothing across the entirety of Cold Steel 1-4 and then Reverie had to madly rush to lay some groundwork.

It's a completely different situation. Falcom did NOT care about what came after Cold Steel when it was finished. Everything was about Cold Steel 4 being this giant grand finale for Trails as we knew it.
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>>559547756
Cold Steel 1 and 2 were vaguely planned beforehand minus the whole splitting the one game into two thing. 3 and 4 were not.
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>>559547389
No, the Erebonia arc didn't feel stretched out at all. Hajimari though was the filler game that I wouldn't mind never existed. The Calvard arc on the other hand barely has enough plot for two games let alone 5.
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>>559547756
Sure, CS had a lot of groundwork laid for it but it did next to nothing with it.
I think it at best had bullet points for what should happen and when. If it had any real planning CS1 and 3 would be very different games, and I think 4 and Haji would have been combined into one final game.
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>>559548407
You rent cars out, you don’t whore them out, anon.
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>>559547756
>Everything was about Cold Steel 4 being this giant grand finale for Trails as we knew it.
Quite honestly Kiseki should have ended here. It was the culmination of three arcs and it finished all three masterfully. Just wish Hajimari never existed. Feels like an insult to the CS arc.
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>>559548708
>finished all three masterfully
Finishing the arc on one of the worst games in the series isn't what I would consider masterful though
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>>559548216
>erebonia didnt feel stretched out
>cs2 wasted 1/3 of the game to get everyone back
>last two chapters of cs2 could've been an optional endgame while the game ends with phantasmal blaze
>ouroboros "experiment" in cs3
>kondo literally admitted the game was meant to end with the dragon fight
>cs4 basically didn't start until rean came back, and even the plot didn't actually move until the rivalry fights
>it still didn't conclude many loose ends until reverie
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Watching the Sky FC remake ending on youtube made me realize what a circus troupe of clowns Ouroboros became later. Like holy fuck, the Weissman reveal was actually evil as fuck, moreso now in 3D. now compare it to any Ouroboros scene in Kai.
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>>559548575
they are sluts and sexual objects
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>>559549430
SC already made ouroboros enforcers a bunch of dindus
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>>559549630
no it didn't, they were helping a child brainwashing creep, Walter said he kills women and children. Play the games secondary.
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>>559549369
>>cs2 wasted 1/3 of the game to get everyone back
SC wasted 3/4 of the game to get Joshua back.
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Osborne is incredibly cool from Sky 3rd all the way to CS4.
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>>559547389
>>559549369
Vankid, calm down. Rean isn't real, he can't bully you.
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It looks like the local buttraped CS hater has woken up again and started his weekend spam.
Time to go to sleep.
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When will you understand your boogeyman doesn't exist
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>>559542703
>and all he did was know where she was because he put a tracker on her
I hated this shit btw, I'm the same anon who was ranting about how I like Rufus despite his awful writing decisions and this was one I never got to. I REALLY liked that moment with him and Lapis and they immediately fucking cheapend it with this bullshit WHY?!, I like to pretend he was joking or something.
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Both cute, both canon
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>>559552421
Just a reminder that Rixia chose Cao for what is like 2 years, she lost her chance at Lloyd
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>>559548216
>>559548708
So obviously you are the same guy. Without this becoming an argument about who remembers or searches for in exhaustive detail every little tidbit, these were the worst parts of CS1-4 for me:
>1
Class VII is kind of a weak party and very few get properly developed as characters, Rean himself is a very odd choice for an MC given his issues, and it doesn’t really do much except give us a tour of some parts of east Erebonia and where they stand in the upcoming civil war.
>2
A nice journey that meaningfully built up Rean and like a house of cards they topple him by the end of it. Introduces the “no one really dies” problem in multiple ways, reveals an aspect of the curse.
>3
Unless you are really invested in New Class VII, almost nothing happens in the game until its ending hours, introduces the Curse which is largely considered bad writing that profoundly negatively impacts Sky and Erebonia as a whole; loss of agency is rarely a good thing in any narrative scneario.
>4
This also applies to 3, but 4 just crammed as many characters into the game without really having a good reason to include them or have them do anything very meaningful until the end where they help Class VII beat the final boss.
You also say you dislike Reverie but Rean’s character arc as of IV is largely untouched, again, because it is the single game that tries to do what 3 should have done. CS1-3 are too stretched out, 2 feels meaningless because despite all they did all Class VII does is advance Osborne’s agenda, and then IV tries to have this grandiose end can hit some high notes but mostly falls flat.

Now if you think despite that CS has some amazing character development or something maybe this would make sense but purely focusing on the plot I don’t get how you don’t think it was stretched out even if you enjoyed it.
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>>559553126
hi chatGPT
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>>559553126
>Introduces the “no one really dies” problem in multiple ways,
CS is the arc with the highest stakes and most deaths, though? How can you even say it "introduces" this problem with a straight face while we have shit like the Red Constellation burning down Crossbell with zero casualties?
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>>559551647
when he finally has a real purpose in life (never)
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>>559553450
It would have felt like the stakes were high if we ever saw the full brutality of war but CS always skirts that issue, because it clearly felt it more important to emphasize that Class VII all found a place to belong, and war was a backdrop in 2 and a threat, the bad of end of 4, if you will assuming the fight escalated past a few hours.

NPCs do die when the Red Constellation attacks, Joachim dies in Zero, Arios straight up murks people when he uses gale, Guy died, Gideon died, the whole premise of it was literally built on the deaths, experimentation and torture of children. Just as, assumedly, lots of NPCs die in the two large scale CS conflicts.
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>Just a reminder that Rixia chose Cao for what is like 2 years, she lost her chance at Lloyd
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Lloyd and Rean will find love with each other and their respective harems will weep.
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Elie could stand in front of Lloyd naked with a sign that says “FUCK ME!!!” and Lloyd would probably ask her what’s wrong, if she had a bad day and lost her clothes in a bet or something lmao
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>>559552235
It really was a completely tone-deaf moment. It would have worked better as a cheesy-line, maybe a new side to Rufus we are seeing, but oh well.
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Cedric fucked that btw
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>>559547308
It's true to life, if two autists don't end up throwing fits at each other they will try to stay as separated as possible, hostile avoidance rather than open conflict
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Cedric got fucked in the ass by that btw
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>>559552691
>rixia chose cao (and gaolang)
>elie will choose xin
>tio will go with jona
Haha... a-at least our boy still has Noel...
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>>559548407
Lapis is the only reason I didn't utterly hate Reverie
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>>559557895
Stop shitposting on 4chan and get back to work, Noey!!!
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>>559557895
and Cecile
and Ilya
and Fran
and Wazy
and that whore Juna
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>>559557192
tummy made to be cummed on
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>>559557895
Doesn't Lloyd still own you Noel?
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>>559558165
>cummed on
worshipped*
Ftfy
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Cedric/Shirley is still a crackfic pairing, on the same level of nonsense as Duvalie/Laura or Estelle/Josette
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>>559558165
Swirling my tongue all over her tummy and navel
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Lloyd's love interest is...
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>>559559031
Elie and Rixia
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>>559556315
AOOOOOOOGA
Who do these BEAUTIES belong to
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>>559558964
Don’t tell the Cuckdrickfag that, you’ll spoil the games for him.
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>>559559992
Good.
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>>559558964
But anon, there's photographic evidence of Shirley pegging Cuckdric.
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>>559559175
Your dad.
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>>559559175
Leonora.
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I think it's funny that Towa gets counted among Class VII in Horizon, if only because it would be awkward if the characters said "Class VII... and Towa" when addressing the Thors crew.
She absolutely should have been a member back in CS, although I guess it's better for worldbuilding that she wasn't.
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>>559560250
And I have photographic evidence of Altina getting fucked by Shizuna, that doesn't make it canon.
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Are they still jealous of Chadrick?
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*loses to soldats in my divine knight*
*cries to my classmates for help*
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>>559562238
truly enviable kek
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Yes, yes they are.
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>y-yes they are jealous of cuckdric being an embarrassing fuck up
I’m 6’2”, how tall are you little guy?
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It seems his superiority has once again made some commoners jealous
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>>559536409
ENTER CHADOL
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Juna is mine btw I don't share
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>>559564218
no one is jealous of a manlet whose entire character is eating shit every time he is on screen, and i feel sorry for you that you made it your personality to dickride such an uncool character
fuck, cuckdric makes fuckin Cao look cool
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>>559558964
Cuckdric will troon out and get breast implants to satisfy Shirley's proclivities
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>>559566080
>>559566347
Mind status: dominated. Keep proving his point, retard.
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>>559566395
No one likes Kekric, he doesn't even like himself. The grandmaster only invited him to Ouroboros because Campy was getting tired of abusing Gilbert and needed a new toy
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>>559566395
Except no one discusses him except when you bring him up and the discussion shifts to telling you why he sucks.
I think I get why you feel such a kinship to Cuckdric, aside from the manlet thing.
Your posts are typically so boring the only way anyone pays attention to you is when you praise a character no one thinks is cool, who renounced the one thing that made him enviable.
Haha, that’s really quite sad little guy.
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It's not arguable that Cedric/Shirley is not a popular pairing. You would have to argue that Laura/Machias or Fie/Gaius are popular pairings by that same metric.
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>>559567020
>>559567320
Mind status: dominated.
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>>559567715
This is your guy?
What a hero, showing that little girl who's boss
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haha, it’s sad what some people do for attention
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>>559567996
Reminder, Millium who is basically her sister, was okay with this. She just stood there and watched. Worse she helped Osborne by attacking Reans party. This is your heroine?
Meanwhile Cedric wanted to sacrifice Altina to save Rean and gang who were about to get killed.
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he’s even making up fanfic for his gay crush lmao
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>>559568330
>justifying murdering a child
Cedricfags have no shame, do they?
Even if Millium was making a terrible descision, she wasn't the one performing the murder. You also assume all Cedric haters are fine with Millium. In my eyes, Millium is just a shittier and more annoying Altina (perfect). Thats why falcom gave her away to Jusis, a worse version of Dufus.
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>>559565689
Who's in front of him?
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>>559569053
Dick in crazy
Get crazy pregnant
Death is temporary, crazy pussy is forever
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Estellexissies... Kekuakeks...
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have not been here for a few weeks

who won? who lost?
any news?
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>>559571150
i won
/fg/ lost

Sky was a major success
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>>559571379
I kneel... haha...
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>>559571379
Joshysisters... We won!!
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>>559570685
Is that Zane or Zin?
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Zin was only chosen as the Taito successor because Walter was white, and the master was racist.
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What kind of combat styles and weapons do you guys hope the next protag to have?
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>walter
>white
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>>559572732
eight leaves one meme...
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>>559572732
Kiseki has run the gamut of cool weapons at this point. I think axes and hammers are basically the only things it has not done and frankly those weapons kinda bore me.
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>>559572732
They'll probably have a unique shounen trope power up ability. Rean had the curse and a mech summon, Van has a Kamen rider transformation and demon core. I don't watch enough shonen to know what they could use, though.
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Gonna take a massive shot in the dark and say this guy is white shroud
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The next protagonist will be Kasim coded. Every protagonist since Lloyd has had traits from the strongest character in the previous arc. Lloyd and Cassius are high IQ blunt weapon wielders who have animal like battle aura's when using their strongest attack. Rean is Arios, Van is McBurn. It stands to reason that the next protagonist will be like Kasim, maybe they'll be from a warrior tribe but they want to break away from his duties. It could take place in the northern strip of Zemuria where Gaius will finally be relevant because of partially taking place in Leman. It'll be about the wind sept terrion, and it'll be revealed that Ouroboros already claimed the water sept terrion 20 years ago when the east started to collapse.
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>>559576960
$NUPROTAG... the STRONGEST! ALL HAIL $NUPROTAG!
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>>559579930
rape
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>>559579930
ZAMN is this a new mod
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>>559579993
Wrong.
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>>559580353
Yes its brand new on loverslab, theres another goated one for the bunnysuits that got posted today. I wanted to get some snaps of it but I dont have the fucking NISA release and tried getting it to work on CLE, to no avail for now.
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>>559580564
thats how she likes it
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>>559576335
white shroud is the shota
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>>559580670
>bunnysuits that got posted today
link? didn't find it on the loverslab forum
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Cute and canon
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>>559581926
I spoiled myself on it, cuz I burrowed a NG+ save for the bonding points, and messed around with the costumes and spoiled myself
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Cute and canon!
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>>559586695
honestly it's not that much of a spoiler anywyay
the real spoiler is they don't actually do anything about it. all the various organizations seem to exist just because trails games have them
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love renny
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>>559593930
i like renny
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>>559565689
Agnes is so lucky bros
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>>559580670
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>>559580670
tight bunny ass
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Gooning to Juna's buttcrack
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>>559599025
Why is Juna such a slut?
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we back
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Now that we're back, here's purple grimsex and orange grimsex
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posting fie in the new loop
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>>559597581
Gay
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>Ys Proud Nordics lost Durante's homemade co-op functionality
This is a soft confirmation that Durante is too busy to replicate it for the new version
NISA is working on Horizon 2 as we speak
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>>559602612
Even if NISA get Kai 2, Durante has no job. PC ports are done by Falcom and they'll probably start Switch 2 soon.
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>>559601406
Ragecuck asleep post Fie
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While we were offline, I finished Trails of Cold Steel III.
I'll give my thoughts later, but for now, let me tell you that Tio and Roselia share the same voice actress.
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>>559600538
God they are all 10s
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>>559603407
Will be interesting to compare as I finished the game recently myself.
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>>559603369
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>>559603784
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>>559598485
its one of the greatest mods.
>>559581960
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/260898-trails-beyond-the-horizon-nis-america-english-language-release/page/15/#findComment-7253545
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>>559483983
Her panties should have a bear on the butt to if she wants to carry on around
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This is the new protagonist of the final arc. SSay something nice about her, /fg/!
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>>559604617
need to lick those bunny buns
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>>559603784
>>559603916
>>559604018
>>559604154
I’d leave the nuts hanging out
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>>559604897
What's her backstory and skills?
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>>559605141
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When are we getting Ys 11? Realistically, would it be possible for Falcom to have it out before the end of 2026?
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>>559605774
We'll get it after the inevitable Ys V remake
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>>559605774
No. Realistically? If they skip 3rd AND Zero remakes maybe next year. Huge maybe. I’d say 2028 earliest.
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>>559605774
absolutely not
I have shaky expectations that kiseki or Y's gets something new in 2027. If Kai 2 is 2027 than falcom is truly hauling ass
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>>559605774
proud nordics bombed so its on the backburner
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>>559606117
SC was 99% reused assets and touring around Liberl. All they need to do for Second is censor the script, bust out the template for some new side quests and make a few new set pieces and animate a couple of fights.
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>>559606635
*sniff*
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>>559606280
Good. Falcom needs to be punished for this Atlus bullshit. Imagine announcing Proud norDICKS literally less than 2 months after the PC version comes out. So fucking shameless.
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>Proud norDICKS
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>>559607176
Phew…
*SNIIIFFFFFFF*
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>>559609376
joshua noDICKS
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Cold Steel III

In its attempt to serve as an introductory chapter to the post civil war Erebonia which mirrors Cold Steel I, as well as a continuation of Rean's and Class VII's struggle to keep their nation safe in Cold Steel II, the game sadly never finds an identity for itself that would let it stand on equal terms with its two predecessors.
With that out of the way, Cold Steel III still is an enjoyable game whose own story suffered from having to include too many cameos from past titles.

New Class VII and the Branch Campus are full of lovely and interesting characters whose pasts, troubles and identities clash well with Rean as their Instructor and a hero of Erebonia. Leeves, too, is a lovely little town to explore after each chapter.
If that was all to it, a story about Rean coming to terms with his actions as a soldier as he teaches the new generation of students, I wouldn't have anything to complain about. Sadly though, we spend almost as much time reuniting with the old Class VII members, as well as guests from past titles like Olivier, Agate, Tio and Tita, as we do with Rean's students, whose development naturally comes short at times as a result.
And I'm not sure what happened to falcom's writers between CSII and CSIII, but the overall writing of anything involving Ouroboros and Jaeger corps went down the drain between those games. Essentially any time Rean teams up with old friends or comrades from Liberl or Crossbell to deal with an immediate threat, it feels as if you're playing an entirely different, worse game. That remains true until the very end of the final dungeon.

In spite of all that, however, the actual plot revolving around Rean and his students, Osborne and his machinations, as well as the history of Erebonia itself, is still as interesting as ever and more than makes up for all of those minor flaws.

>>559603663
Are you the CHADric poster?
I'm looking forward to seeing more of my boy in CSIV.
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The finale of Cold Steel III redeems the massive amount of time it spends on building up towards it by having some of the most shocking moments in the series so far:
>Osborne killing Olivert, Toval and Arseid by blowing up the Courageous
>Millium sacrifing herself in Altina's stead to serve as a god-slaying weapon
>Rean losing his mind and brutally massacring the Holy Beast in a fit of rage
>the Curse sweeping over the entire Empire
When Rean kept sriking that Beast over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, I felt that.
I'm itching to play Cold Steel IV now and experience the end of this tale for myself.
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>>559611847
CS3 is like a rehash of CS1 but the formula is even more rigid.
Every chapter is like:
Field study part 1: explore new area with new class VII
Field study part 2: after shit goes down, explore area again with old class VII and a special guest
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>>559612681
someone carry altina to a bed for fucks sake
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>>559611847
CS3's biggest pain point is that they genuinely didn't know what they were doing with ouroboros. Its enjoyable for the same reasons CS1 was enjoyable, but instead of a compelling terrorist group with a crystal clear motivation they replaced it with cartoon villains testing giant robots until they got bored
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>>559604617
>>559606635
>>559607176
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>>559613393
they just copied the "doin a lil experiment" from SC but we don't even get to see any new enforcers
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>>559612943
>>559613393
Yeah, that's basically it. Falcom hasn't known what to do with Ouroboros since Sky the 3rd.
Chancellor Osborne, Cedric and the Black Workshop are all more interesting adversaries because they're actually related to the Erebonian conflict and have a stake in it beyond carrying out the Grandmaster's will.
In one particular scene right after the Courageous blew up and crashed, every single Ouroboros member is shown acting solemn or outright shocked by this development, as if they didn't expect that people would actually die here. Even Campanella acts as if this was kind of overkill.
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>>559614761
>>559612681
>>559611847
Genuinely don’t know how or why you think Cedric is interesting or a “good adversary.”
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>>559615991
>knows Rean since he was a little kid and admires him
>got utterly betrayed and humiliated by Duke Cayenne who used him as a human sacrifice during the civil war
>absorbed the Power of the Crimson Apocalypse and murdered Crow in that state
>after those experiences, Osborne personally took it upon himself to train Cedric and told him about the truth of Erebonia
>Cedric now became one of the most powerful people in the Empire and works towards fulfilling his father's ambitions with Osborne
>he seemed genuinely sad when Olivert died and showed compassion towards Altina, but didn't let those emotions get the better of him
How can I not find him interesting?
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>>559616801
have fun in cs4 haha...
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>>559616801
>Cedric now became one of the most powerful people in the Empire
...Should we tell him?
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>>559616801
Because none of that is ever presented in a compelling way nor does his character explore anything particularly interesting. Like the Altina thing - to me, you are focusing on a throwaway line that doesn’t reveal anything deep about the character, as his aim is to do his would-be daddy’s will above all else since when he is not posturing he just waxes poetic about how great Osborne is. I also do not know how you saw him get his ass handed to him all game and think he is particularly strong, especially because the one to emphasize this is Kurt, and if you were paying attention, it hurts his pride the most not because he has a deep connection with Cedric like their older brothers do, but because he feels it adds insult to injury his family is not the Shield of royalty anymore and that Cedric can go toe to toe with him. And despite all of his posturing for being superior, for the Main Campus being, better he never can back those claims up.

Then you think it shows resolve that he agreed to a plan that killed his older brother, who showed him nothing but love and always believed in him even when he was a weak bitch btw, because he says farewell?
I get liking certain aspects of characters because one can personally relate. But it doesn’t make sense to me how you see a character who was written as arrogant as some sort of story of overcoming personal weakness, when nearly all Cedric scenes are about how pride cometh before the fall.

Even the Rean thing - he doesn’t request he go to the main campus, nor does he mention his admiration towards him as a “hero” of the empire, he demands it.
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>>559614761
>Campanella acts as if this was kind of overkill.
Fucking hate that little faggot. I hope falcom doesn't give us some stupid backstory that we're supposed to sympathized with.
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also, the fact you make it sound like he is cool for “murdering” crow is weird, especially because that was mostly his mech going out of control and because it makes you look like an edgy teen, no offense
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why does Cedric cause so much seethe? guy is even indirect replying now lol
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>>559620791
>fie tummy covered
0/10
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>>559621269
Campanella is the prime suspect for the final boss of the series.
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>>559621645
Cedric has annoying fans that prop him up as a god when he's a chump.
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>>559622278
hnnnnnnngggggg
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>>559621645
i dunno, why DO you seethe and do this >>559568098 when people say why he’a dogshit to you, regardless of whether they are nice or mean about it?
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>>559621645
Consider Cedric for a moment. He's a little bitch but just imagining him as a girl instead makes me DIAMONDS. As a straight man it makes me seethe that I can't play the games while imagining myself correcting him.
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Cedric gets gangbanged in the boys' locker room on daily basis
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lol i’d rather just fuck that dumb little slut alfin bro
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>>559623095
Reanasis! You can't just say that!
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>>559623095
no way bro, she's mine
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>>559623159
i’m not the whore
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>Rean's team is in Calvard for a fraction of the time Van is yet Thors clues in to the central mystery of Horizon well before ASO does.
Vansisters...
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>>559620791
Cute.
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>>559623548
she’s “yours” for but a moment
also look at those face, those eyes
she can handle two at a time no problem
that much is expect of a noblewoman of the empire
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>>559623095
Alfin expired after CS2, she was peak back then.
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>>559620863
>I also do not know how you saw him get his ass handed to him all game and think he is particularly strong
First of all, Cedric is implied to have resolved a crisis in North Ambria while the Branch Campus was in Lamare - something that happens off-screen but is an impressive feat in and of itself. He also shows great natural talent at Imperial Court Fencing and leadership, according to his instructors and classmates.
But most importantly, he took his loss against new Class VII in their mock battle like a champ and didn't hold grudges over it like Patrick and his classmates did in CSI. Later on, while Ada and Fritz mock the branch campus in Heimdallr, Cedric has nothing but encouraging words for them and asks for good cooperation.
He matured immensely as a person over the course of these two years we didn't see him. His desire to grow strong enough that no one will ever have to protect him again is a noble one, in my opinion.
>Even the Rean thing - he doesn’t request he go to the main campus, nor does he mention his admiration towards him as a “hero” of the empire, he demands it.
Is that so? He asked Rean to join the Main Campus but left him the opportunity to deny his request - which he did.
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>>559612681
Built up to a flaccid execution where all the interesting stakes from 3, end up not mattering.
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>>559621783
He's the final protagonist.
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>>559624156
cs3 alfin is one of the biggest glowdowns in modern history and it's not talked about enough
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>>559625214
Rean using mind techniques to avoid getting a boner here.
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>>559625703
>He
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>>559616801
Is Cedricfag the most delusional poster in /fg/?
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>>559625976
Bro's locked in
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>>559625923
I loved her CSI+II design so much...
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>>559625923
oh easily, if they do ever remake CS1/2 she's probably the character I look forard to seeing the most, along with Altina and Sara.
I think Nadia had an even worse glowdown debatably.
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>>559626430
>I think Nadia had an even worse glowdown debatably.
Anon she is literally the exact fucking same except now with a bit of a chest. You are insane.
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>>559626565
I pray this is bait and you didnt unironically type this out then press post.
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>>559626430
>Nadia had an even worse glowdown
she's definitely not as good but she's at least still pretty cute and sexy, especially in the racer queen outfit and if we ignore her tits. alfin was just a hard nerf all around
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>>559626887
her buttcrack is visible...
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bigger boobs and butts, assuming the character stays as thin, is always better
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Yaoi crack pairing fanfic idea
Elies's dad x Lloyd's uncle
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>>559626887
she cute for sure but for me, I think its her hair style I dont really like in Kuro, her boobs are too big, and a tad too tall. if everything was toned down just a little bit I think she'd be up there in my rankings.
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>>559615991
nta genuinely wonder when did people stop caring about the writing, he's the character that did a complete 180 from a dominated loser nobody to a real character with goals and aspirations.
So many characters are one-note and static yet they get no hate. Meanwhile a good character like Cedric is bad because...muh plot. You have shit taste. And it's probably terminal.
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Osborne is cool all the way from sky 3rd to CS4 + the side story in Reverie.
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>>559628580
True. He is my favorite antagonist.
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>>559512843
The problem is they still humiliated him all the way between CS3 and 4. What's the ponit of having him change at all if he's just going to be made a bitch every time?
The only real badass feat he has is in Reverie.
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>>559628069
I mean, that shit kind of came out of nowhere. We didn't see like 90% of the process that turned Cedric into the character that he became in CS3.
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>>559628958
>We didn't see like 90% of the process that took place during the timeskip
No shit? His development is supposed to come as a surprise.
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>>559629076
Yeah, and that's the problem. It's pretty contrived way to force a character into relevance.
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>>559629180
That's not a problem, and it's not forced either.
Are you crying about Kevin being the MC of the 3rd too?
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>>559629324
No because Kevin had a bunch of foreshadowing in SC. There was zero evidence that Cedric was gonna turn into a pompous douche at the end CS2.
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>>559628958
It came out of nowhere but it all makes perfect sense.
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>>559629462
Cedric was possessed by an ancient evil in CSII, and Olivert researched the connection between his Arnor blood and its strong reaction with the Crimson Apocalypse.
That alone leaves plenty of possibilities to develop Cedric's character. A desire to grow stronger after such an ordeal is by no means unlikely.
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>>559629470
Rean has always been such a good husband for Altina
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>>559630106
His wives are so lucky...
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Holy shit the uppity cumdollfags are getting absolutely insufferable.
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>>559629856
At the end of CS4 Mariabell talks about how much he interests her because of his blood and the 1set Anguis tells her not to become like Weissmann, so theere's that possible hanging plot thread
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>>559630382
this is a man who has won at life.
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>>559630480
you can always close tab instead of bitching and crying.
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>>559630907
you can always choose a girl with a personality instead of a shitty retard cumdoll.
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>bootleg Chino
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damn this nigga mad his waifu got mogged by a cumdoll
probably an al*safag
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>>559631328
he's crying everyday over her and even projects his personal situation onto us. He claims Altinafags are just "Alisafags who are mad and went to the next best thing"lmao.
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Tina is cute and sexy.
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She won. Accept it.
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>>559631560
>>559631328
it's probably the same hateful anon that keeps complaining about everything.
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>>559629856
That's not what I'm talking about, dumbass. Kevin not being just some happy-go-lucky traveling priest was heavily foreshadowed throughout SC. Nothing of the sort happened in CS2 with Cedric. Cedric was just a minor character serving as a plot device for Duke Cayenne's arc. He wasn't shown to be anything other than a wimpy kid who got kidnapped and forced to do a villain's bidding.

Him suddenly turning into a pompous douchebag who's also at the top of his class came out of nowhere.

>...and Olivert researched the connection between his Arnor blood and its strong reaction with the Crimson Apocalypse. That alone leaves plenty of possibilities to develop Cedric's character.
No it fucking doesn't. You think his Arnor blood is gonna be relevant going forward? Get real.

People said the same shit about Carnage and Loewe and how it was gonna evolve into some important lore bit years down the line. They were wrong and it never amount to anything. Both Loewe and Arianrhod are dead and that shit is totally irrelevant.
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"People" who like personality-lacking Chinoclones like Altina don't think of women as women. They think of women as cumdolls to project their own fantasies onto.
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Does Felghana have a single bad track? Like, goddamn
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>>559632153
i'm going to project my cock in your ass you dumb slut
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>>559632056
Sure, buddy.
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>>559632153
Altina has a personality thoughever, you should play the Cold Steel saga it's a nice journey
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>>55963205
>Nothing of the sort happened in CS2 with Cedric
Are you that stupid or taking the piss/baiting? You can't possibly tell me that
>being kidnapped
>thrown in a cursed device that mentally tortures you
>watching as it, through you, curses the entire capital city of the country you are Prince of so you have a deep connection to
>watching as you murder a guy who was trying to save you (Cedric specifically says that he remembered everything)
Sure, he didn't kill someone close to him like Rufina , but being taken ove rby a cursed object and killing Crow (who was trying to save him) and cursing Heimdallr is quite Kevin equvialent to me.
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>>559632415
"I am utterly devoted to Rean" is not a personality.
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>>559632153
>been utterly mindbroken by Altina and mutters the same sludge everyday
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>>559632476
MEnat for
>>559632056
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>>559632503
We weren't talking about you THOUGH
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>cold steel
>good
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being an alisacuck must be so humiliating
>touted as default canon choice and forcefully shilled for 2 games
>literal who "boring" loli joins
>completely mogged by said loli by just existing
>is utterly and fully replaced by her the next game
can you blame alisatards for constantly shitting their pants all the time kek
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>>559632056
According to your argumentation, Grimwood, Wald and Dieter are the pinnacle of bad writing and Azure basically sucks ass.
You're quick to jump to insults too over arguing about a video game series, so I suspect that you're confusing me with someone else you had an argument with before.
In any case, a character becoming more important in the sequel is NOT bad writing.
>No it fucking doesn't. You think his Arnor blood is gonna be relevant going forward? Get real.
Yes I did, because Cedric was specifically mentioned multiple times during the epilogue of CSII. And he did end up becoming important. Looks like I was right, and you were wrong.
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>>559632476
>being kidnapped
>thrown in a cursed device that mentally tortures you
>watching as it, through you, curses the entire capital city of the country you are Prince of so you have a deep connection to
>watching as you murder a guy who was trying to save you (Cedric specifically says that he remembered everything)
That has all the makings of an aloof, traumatized dude who shuts himself off from the world - not a smug asshole. That's another moment where Kevin is way more believable than Cedric is, in case you wanna continue that comparison.
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Altina is too shameless
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>you should play the Cold Steel saga it's a nice journey
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>>559632838
There's more than one way a person can realistically respond to trauma
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>>559632884
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>>559632819
>According to your argumentation, Grimwood, Wald and Dieter are the pinnacle of bad writing and Azure basically sucks ass.
I'd argue what happened to them AFTER Azure is where the writing really gets bad. Grimwood's just bad either way, though.
>You're quick to jump to insults too over arguing about a video game series, so I suspect that you're confusing me with someone else you had an argument with before.
No and I don't care?
>Yes I did, because Cedric was specifically mentioned multiple times during the epilogue of CSII. And he did end up becoming important. Looks like I was right, and you were wrong.
What the hell are you on about? The Arnor bloodline detail was in regard to him becoming an Enforcer and him having potential as a character after the CS arc, not the time between CS2 and CS3.
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>>559632838
>feel helpless
>hate feeling helpless
>act over the top like a smug asshole and surround yourself with yes men to protect how fragile you feel
Makes sense to me
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Wonderful news for my Kiseki vtuberbros. After Stal packed it up, we have a new chuuba starting Kiseki with Sky remake. And she's a big name corporate chuuba as well. My new oshi. https://x.com/EliraPendora/status/2030196468720500962
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>>559632983
Yeah, and what Cedric becomes in CS3 is not one of them.
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>>559633352
We don't like vtumors and K*seki here.
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>>559633352
>the bitch that threw Doki under the bus
We won't be watching
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>>559633485
>>559633337
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>skytroons are vtumorfags
like poetry
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>>559633310
>I'd argue what happened to them AFTER Azure is where the writing really gets bad
No, you specifically said that Cedric's development is bad because it happened between CSII and CSIII with "no foreshadowing" (which is wrong). Dieter, Grimwood and Wald all drastically change in Azure to fit the narrative with actually no foreshadowing.
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>>559633621
The Testa-Rossa shit is not good enough of an explanation for me. I still consider that a bullshit development that doesn't suspend my disbelief.
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>>559633971
Then Kevin killing Rufina was also not good enough for you?
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>>559634376
No, that was good enough for me because a dude pretending to be happy while keep even those closes to him at an arm's length and traveling around specifically to avoid them makes way more sense than a wimpy kid turning into a pompous overachiever who looks and sounds nothing like himself two years ago.
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>>559634376
He's just seething for argument's sake.
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>>559634376
CedricGOD don't concern yourself with a lowly peasant's agony, he types like we should care what's "good enough" for him lol
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>>559634376
>>559634550
Oh, and on an unrelated note: fuck the stupid hero worship that Crow gets in the second half of the arc. That's ten times worse than what happened with Cedric.
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>>559634376
It's OK if Sky did it.
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>>559630480
cute cumdoll wife
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Leave the Calvard arc to me!
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>>559635816
Haha...
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https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-ps3-gamerip-2013
https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/the-legend-of-heroes-sen-no-kiseki-original-soundtrack-2013
Why is there a Cold Steel soundtrack with 107 and another one with 87 tracks here? They have a total difference of over 3 hours.
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Altina and Alisa are the worst Kiseki girls. Even worse than Elise, Angelica and Josette.
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Vankid...
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>>559629470
This artist draws gay porn shit, not Rean x Altina
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>>559633352
>my new oshi is a sociopath
As a skyGOD, I claim neither this guy or his irrelevant whore
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>>559633505
We know, you just like your endless arcwar faggotry
>>559633521
>>559637495
It's been over two years now, who cares about Dookiebird
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>>559636124
Rips are all tracks inside the game files, sometimes there are repeats for specific cutscenes when they need a specific loop, or for several other reasons
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>>559633352
>>559637650
>unironic vtuber faggots
Christ.
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>>559638434
>unironic vtuber faggots
>In the series where vtubers/streamers are a literal canonical part of the series thanks to Daybreak
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>>559638036
It seems to have some bloated tracks and some that weren't in the official soundtrack.
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>>559623159
not me lol

>>559637309
so?
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>>559637650
You, me, and Elira, who ruined her career over her.
Tl;dr:
This person >>559633352 released this video https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4?si=iEUnVA9RjceFxnjR
where she badmouths a former coworker that tried to kill herself because she was bullied, mismanaged, and was not allowed to graduate (quit) because Nijisanji already had very bad optics. bullying was rampant in the company and vtubers were managed by other vtubers.
This went live on the day, hour and minute the vtuber that tried to kill herself wanted to make a comeback as an indie vtuber. The comments speak for themselves.

>>559632734
Tio LOVE
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>>559633352
Still crazy that it was just or so far Nui and Ponto that played it on the corpo JP side. I liked Xenoblade so, I know this'll be equally funny.
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>>559632734
Better than Cuckbell any day.
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>>559632268
I don't get the hype for felghana's tracks, but I'll give you it's incredibly consistent
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>cuckbell
>bad
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>>559640321
Get out of your cardboard box and get a job, Rufus!
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Karja opens the game by brutally murdering an unarmed defenseless man in cold blood and 30min later I'm supposed to beam a smile about her being one half of the hero team
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>>559642772
the captain hired mercenaries to kill the pirates
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>>559642995
he hired them in case he needs to defend his vessel from pirates which is logical
either way a heroine shouldn't publicly execute a hostage if you want me to feel sympathy for her
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>>559643316
he could've circled around their waters
if you fight back against the coast guard after trespassing you'd get shot too
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>>559625202
Sorry, I got busy.
Anyways, this post seems to me to you focusing on yet another throwaway line among the several that are used to try and hype up Cedric. What was that crisis? How did he resolve it? Did his status as the prince and the fact NA were annexed having any bearing to their resolution?
My guess is we simply don’t know and I guess that because if it had been a big deal or something with far-reaching consequences more people would talk about it or it would have had some payoff in subsequent games.
You also omit how this “request” comes about. Cedric laments not spending a year with Rean in Thors, then says the faculty and facilities of the main campus are better (which is frankly bullshit, at least faculty-wise), and he is in utter disbelief when Rean says he won’t go if he were to ask or even command him to. He literally says that answer is unacceptable to him, so he throws a tantrum and gets his ass whopped the next day.

Look man, you can like whoever you like, but to a lot of us Cedric is basically Gilbert if he was a prince, and sure cursing your own weakness and swearing to be so strong you never endanger others is nice, but it also flies in the face of what Class VII, and by extension CS and all of Kiseki, really, is all about - the power of bonds.
I will take it in good faith that you aren’t the sole Cedric glazer ITT but I will say that I have never really seen Cedric’s archetype work well with many people. By that I mean I don’t know of a lot of people that enjoy weak characters getting an offscreen power boost despite the legitimacy of the means, their personality doing an about-face and being antagonistic to the MC and friends and pulling it off WITHOUT a moment of being humbled that makes them change their tune.
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>>559642772
>Sexy murder-hobo viking
> I'm supposed to beam a smile about her being one half of the hero team
Uhh fucking hell you yea are if you are someone that actually has patrician taste
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>>559643571
I understand the system, the point really is that Karja is a filthy pirate that executed a hostage in cold blood
this would be fine if 30min later I wasn't expected to accept her as the main heroine alongside Adol, who would realistically see her as a villain in any other Ys entry
>>559643807
sex addiction doesn't control my life
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>>559630382
I need my own harem of silver haired green eyed young ladies.
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>>559645134
Sex, savage, passionate sex
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>>559645134
My wife and daughter are so sexy.
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>>559645134
they aged like wines
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>>559650797
translate it, weeb
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>>559651170
"v-van-san...what's this all of the sudden?"
*doki doki*
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>>559646013
My second immediate thought on Altina
>>559647695
>>559648294
Altina in particular is beautiful beyond words
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>>559651372
from 1 to niagara falls, how wet was she?
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That sure is a man in a battle suit, yeah
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>>559651734
Black-clad man.
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>>559651734
Hunk
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Joshua has no penis
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>>559611847
I'm glad we agree that CS3 is the worst one. Your posts usually glazed this game when it didn't deserve it.
>Are you the CHADric poster?
I guess, I dunno how I feel about being called that when there already is a CHADRIC poster that used to post here, back when I was blogposting CS1. Now that guy was cool.
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>>559649447
Hello, Bracer Guild, I'm having a sexual emergency, send help.
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Is Deputy Commander Douglas the most insignificant "major" character in all of Trails?
>appeared in Ao to replace Sonya in the CGF after her promotion
>Lloyd and Randy already knew him as their demonic drill instructor from the Academy, they're on good terms
>has a unique sprite and a badass nickname
>joins into a CGF training quest as an optional boss
>does literally nothing all game
>arguably doesn't even appear during the final chapter
>never appears again in subsequent games
I just remembered him and wondered what the point of that character was.
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>>559656070
I'm not sure why you are calling him "major".
Donvan (I'm not sure if that's his name, but he is in one of the police divisions) have couple of unique things going on for him, but he is still a fucking nobody.
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>need to finish horizon before crimson desert
>van route 3
please delete van next game
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>>559656070
Maybe he appeared on a drama CD?
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>>559658852
I hope you love anchorville
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>>559658540
"Major" because he was introduced as a core member of the CGF who had ties to the main characters, but didn't amount to anything in the end.
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>>559658852
She is so insanely fucking hot
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>>559655338
The reason CS3 is the worst Kiseki game is it has the most braindead combat.
>Juna Brave Order > Kurt Brave Order > win
>repeat
>every goddamn fight
>even on Nightmare
>it really is that simple and easy
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brother what the fuck are we doing
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>>559667565
>braindead combat
BO are op as fuck for any kiseki game (never played kai) I finished reverie about a month ago and Lloyd's craft burning heart breaks the fucking game.
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>>559633352
Isn't that one of the most evil woman in the vtubing business?
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>>559669790
>BO are op as fuck for any kiseki game
Sure but typically not THAT OP and typically not literally available for the vast majority of the game.
You break enemies almost instantly with Juna's Brave Order. Then you use Kurt's Brave Order and your party gets so fast that you kill anything before the break ends, so nothing ever gets a turn once it's broken.
And Juna and Kurt are available for your party for the vast majority of the game.
The game really is as simple as use these two moves in every fight and win every fight brainlessly. It's pathetic.
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>>559669790
>-50% damage recieved for 6 turns just for 1 measly Brave Point
Haha....
Not as broken as Ultimate Wind in Kai though
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i really don't like this girl
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>>559671467
Don't worry, Angie will correct her.
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Noel is made for Lloyd.
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>>559671689
>Cedric will correct her
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>>559674960
I don't think her peg slave can do anything.
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CAO WON
BIG CAO VICTORY
CAO CAO CAO
CAO NO KISEKI
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>>559667565
>Juna Brave Order > Kurt Brave Order > win
this made me feel like a god in the final dungeon. blasting through everything while spiral of erebos was playing
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>>559650797
>Kabedon
yeah, not reset this time bros
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OMG who is that sexy student behind Michael... *_*

>>559655338
Credit where credit is due. Cold Steel III is a fun game despite its flaws.
>>559667565
That, too. Any BO that drastically reduces EP cost can be used to chain Chrono Burst for infinite turns.
And I stopped using Altina's BO entirely after the prologue.
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>Commander Vandyck
>two Pentagruel tier airships
Calvard is fucked...
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Elie is one lucky girl.
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W-wow...
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>>559679020
>>559679279
>>559680261
Put a trip on so we can filter you.
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>they're still B-rank Bracers
HOW
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>>559681241
haha still not as good as Kurt the jobber
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How is he this powerful...

>>559681476
Haha... Liberl's #1 Bracer is not to be underestimated.
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do you seriously need to post your reaction to every line of dialogue
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>>559667565
I didn't abuse BO, basically only used them if I lost normally. CS3 is the worst one because nothing happens for 90% of the game and the power scaling is destroyed.
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>lovecraftian horror beyond human comprehension
Nice S-Craft design.
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Something that botters me in the CSIV credits is that non-Erebonians showed up in their everyday clothes.
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sex
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Sweet, they've got my favorite Altina costume in this game.
Erebonia preparing for war, Estelle and Lloydo getting involved, new Class VII seeking refuge in Eryn...
The CSIV prologue is already way more promising than all of CSIII. damn, I knew that all of that build-up would be worth it in the end.
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>>559669790
It's the same in horizon, you just use the speed order in your turn then defense order for enemy turn. Have everyone spam their biggest moves ten times before the enemy gets a turn. Charge shard gauge with support. You win.
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>find Roselia's hidden workshop
>it's full of Mishy merch and the Crimson Rose novel series
Cute.
I spot Mishy, "Mishy Panic" Mishy, Mishette, Evil Mishy and Robo Mishy from the latest Mishy spin-off series.
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>>559651546
It's agnes, she's always wet when Van's around
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yfw she wins the Lloydb Owl in Kai 2
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Oh Crystal Ball, reveal unto me the truth of Sygin's striped panties!!
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>>559687993
If this was fc remake it'd be a black space of nothing.
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Lloydo...
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>>559633352
Vtuber fags are as pathetic as Twitch and Onlyfans slut simps. Have you no pride and dignity, simping for some femoid who wants to make cash on faggots like you? You do realize these Vtuber whores think you weebs are subhumans and just a means for fame and money? To them you are just cattle. They laugh behind your backs while they are being fucked by their non weeb boyfriends. How do you feel about that?
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>>559688686
How's that different from being a fan of anything else? Do you think the great artists liked their patrons? Do you think actors love their fans? At least vtubers talk to you, it's a level of interaction that makes them better than anything else. I hope more and more vtubers play the Sky remakes and become Sky fans.
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>>559625976
He has been mastering this already when she was in her prime. This is nothing.
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>>559689181
You're kinda right...
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>>559689181
Anon, I never simped for any author or artist or whatnot. I find that as pathetic as Onlyfans slut simps. Why should I view someone else as above me? How utterly pathetic, but some people are born to be cattle.
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>>559689689
If people can simp for Tay-Tay, we can enjoy the cute girl streaming. I bet there's a vtuber that you'd love if you just gave her a chance. Why don't you check out the Pandora stream?
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>>559689968
The idea to simp or at least see myself as equal to some streamer femoid would be like mental castration to me. It's bad enough that the censorslop remakes attract more and more femoids into the fandom. If anything we should spoil the shit out of them, so their ilk doesn't grow like the tumor they are.
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>Crow is back
Finally!!!!! I've been waiting for this... ;_;
Together, he and Rean will SAVE Zemuria!
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>>559599025
>Gooning
Since when did we accept this femoid insult to use it self deprecatingly towards ourselves. Back in my days we at least had the dignity to call ourselves coomers and not gooners.
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>Punished Rean
That prologue and opening movie were so fucking cool, holy shit...
I have a feeling that a great game is awaiting me.

CSIII walked so that CSIV could run, fly and soar through the skies.
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Anons, I want to start the censorslop Sky remake. What are the best Tita coomer mods?
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>>559691621
I don't get why Falcom completely dropped fanservice DLC for the remake. Imagine you have one of the hottest loli and don't do anything with her. So much lost money.
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>>559691621
>>559692007
>muh censorship
>muh slop
Why are you even here?
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>>559692185
Back to r/falcom with you femoid.
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>>559689348
you know Mondy, I was playing around with some mods on Kai yesterday and it made me think about how you always complain that Altina is an unfuckable hag now, yet you praise Jolda for being the top dog now. I was looking at these 2 in thier underwear and their bodies don't seem that much different at all desu.
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>>559692326
>get slapped
>instantly fall in love with him
do girls really?
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>>559692492
they only have like 3 female body models
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>Juna, Kurt and Altina lost all of their endgame quartz
Haha, how silly. :)
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>>559692492
holy fucking SEX
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>>559692492
Altina has quite broader hips now. Just gives me JK vibes. Overall she just doesn't trigger my lolicon senses. Jolda feels more JC loli to me, very clearly smaller hips than Kai Altina, even from your screenshot. There is just something that speaks to me when I see her.
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>>559693338
Why would anyone turn them into hags?
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Sky 1st le bad
Sky 2nd le bad
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>>559693453
I mean yea Altina has slightly broader hips but that's like it. one day you'll accept Altina is still hot
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>>559693770
post their butts
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>>559693819
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>>559694132
bonus lapis, nice. only feri is missing.
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>>559693676
Wrong
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I always kept Juna in Gunner Mode and kind of forgot about this feature in CSIII, but the tutorial just reminded me that she'd have higher STR and DEF stats in Striker mode lol.
It's a shame that they didn't use mode changes for anyone else. It'd have worked well on Ash with his extendable Scythe-Axe.
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>>559694412
crow has mode change as well
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>>559687704
Haha…
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>>559694173
trying to position 4 of these mf is a pain in the ass, I hate the character AI in this game.
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>>559694906
you can pause animations with the free camera table but it still sucks.
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>>559695136
this shit?, yea Idk if I'm just a dumbass but it doesnt do anything no matter what I try to do. it usually pauses specific animations when I go into free cam anyway though.
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Still in the middle of CS4 Act 2 and this has got to be the most insane stretch of filler I have ever seen in my life. It isn't just filler, it's RECYCLED filler, I swear I've done this EXACT SAME SHIT in CS3 already
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>>559695371
i use it to pause mid dodge animations for research purposes
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>>559695886
do you do something specific for it to work? I cant toggle mine via clicking or F5/F6 it may as well not exist for me.
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>>559695992
do you enable it first by clicking the square?
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>>559696096
>I cant toggle mine via clicking or F5/F6
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>>559696169
yeah i don't know then, maybe your table doesn't match the game version?
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>>559696228
it's possible. My game version always says 1.00 when I lauch it due to patches/mods ect, it should be like 1.02.
If thats the case I guess I'm screwed cause my game is way too specifically modded for me to be fucked to reinstall kek.
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>>559696683
NISA latest version is 1.0.6 r25, are you using CLE?
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>>559695886
Why is Risette so sexy.
Like, from a narrative standpoint?
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>>559696683
if you are using CLE check here
https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?t=33422
try the older releases and see if anything works.
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KurtGOD... I kneel.
Or rather, they don't even see him as a man, haha...
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>>559697248
if you're going to develop the most advanced android body in the world, it may as well be an excuse to design your dream girl
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>>559696920
>>559697324
Yes, I use CLE.
I'll check it out today.
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Fufu...
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Haha...
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>>559695621
Once you play Kai, CSIV will feel like an insane rollercoaster without filler. Just you wait.
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>>559697607
flatty trying to steal juna's boob energy
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>>559696683
Never liked how bunny costumes accentuate the hips so insanely. Killing it for me.
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>>559695621
Anon, you've got to learn to enjoy the fillers because this shit is only going to get worse.
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>>559698084
Kai has less filler than CS4. Kill yourself Reanspic.
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I would've liked to see that...
"Hip" in Trails terms seems to mean "slutty" if the trend from Sky upwards is indicative of Zemurian fashion in general.

>>559698173
She is a vampire and Juna is very molestable, to be fair.
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>>559698273
Anon, Kai doesn't have filler, ist IS filler. Like literally the only shit worth mentioning that happens happens AFTER the final dungeon. The rest is just doing shitty and bland AI generated side quests with NOTHING happening in the story. It's the first fucking Kiseki game I had to force myself beating. Fuck, the fact that Kai has Grim slop Garten makes it more of a filler game than CSIV.
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>>559698173
>mfw it works
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>>559698174
I agree, to an extent (you can literally see Lapis hips Grow like 30% in the menu lmao) but they are just so hot regardless that I don't mind.
The mod that removes the fishnets really made them go up for me.
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>>559698631
bare skin erotic...
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>Pieces of the old Crossbell Guardian Force uniform that Juna fashioned into an outfit for herself
So this is Juna's taste in fashion, huh..?
Are DLC equipment descriptions canon material?
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>>559698606
If the entirety of Cold Steel was skipped nothing would be lost aside from two Sept-terrions being used up.
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>>559699005
this is juna's canon whore outfit, i always used it.
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>>559699005
crossbell slut...
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>>559698084
nah
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It took a long time, a lot of perseverance, blood and sweat, but I've managed to acquire the color of Juna's new panties.
I really like the new outfits, especially Juna's. You just need to have a visual change once in a while.
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>>559700484
massive spoilers here
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My word, Nina-chan.

>>559700745
I'm not clicking that...
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>>559698878
Van is so lucky…
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>>559691621
>What are the best Tita coomer mods?
Old Falcom would have sold these as official DLC costumes as they are not less tame than the DLC stuf for CS Altina. But alas Nu Falcom are Blackrock cucks. Fans need to fix their game to their old standards. Which is why I won't buy any Falcom shit anymore. They lost me as a customer. No wonder it sold like shit in Japan. Japs have standards.
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as the series went along falcom forgot that things need to actually happen throughout the entire game instead of only at the very end in the last 2 hours
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Musse is a little whore that needs to be corrected by my cock.
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>>559702812
you can only correct a whore with love
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>>559703619
Wrong.
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Juna owes me sex
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>>559703986
musse...
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Altina pits.
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>>559704265
she's doing her best
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>>559702360
That's how it always was in Trails though
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>>559699321
If the entirety of Sky was skipped nothing would be lost aside from the Liber Ark showing up and disappearing again.
If the entirety of Crossbell was skipped nothing would be lost aside from the Azure Tree showing up and disappearing again.
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>>559698610
Imagine sucking those milkers
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>>559706064
Sky was Ouroboros' reveal on the world stage, putting their plan in action. It introduced us to the world of Kiseki and all of it's intricacies while having compelling mysteries.
Crossbell has vital worldbuilding that expands upon Calvard and the cult mentioned in Sky. It finishes Renne's story and we see Crossbell liberated after hardship at the end of the game.
Whereas Cold Steel is just an interquel set between Zero and before the final moments of Azure. It's pretty redundant and doesn't offer any great worldbuilding for Zemuria which led Calvard to suffer.
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>>559708638
It's funny how Calvard had more worldbuilding for Zemuria as a whole in one game than Cold Steel had in 4.
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>>559708638
Vankid, you can't keep blaming Cold Steel for Calvard being utter shit.
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>>559708846
Did Cold Steel even introduce one new country in Zemuria that wasn't relevant to the plot?
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>>559708638
You're the most pathetic poster here, vankid.
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>>559708638
Calvard requires CS to go the way it did so it could be the most technologically advanced arc. CS also had a big debt to pay off (wtf is going on with crossbell, why is erebonia so militant and what is osborne up to). The 50 people who played Sky 3rd had to wait 10 years for Osborne's full plan to come to bear.
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>gay schizo pedophile woke up
See ya in a few when he gets this melty out of his system.
>>559709672
Jurai, although is it anything more than a city-state like Crossbell but smaller?
And the Nord, I guess.
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>>559708638
Dishonest as always, it must be hard to be a Calvardfag.
Cold Steel serves as the culmination of the Western Zemuria arc. It concludes the conflict with Erebonia that was built up since Sky FC and the rivalry between Olivert and Osborne, the Hamel storyline, Crossbell's fate and struggle for sovereignity, as well as the Phantasmal Blaze Plan that was introduced in Azure (which is the actual "interquel" between Sky and Cold Steel).
Aside from that, Cold Steel introduces the class hierarchy and the civil war of Erebonia that was born of it and delves into Jurai and North Ambria, which were already alluded to in Sky the 3rd.
Your claim that the finale of the entire Western Zemuria arc is "redundant" compared to Crossbell, an arc without proper ending, or Calvard, which hasn't been going anywhere for three whole games, speaks for your mental illness. Hating a video game series on such an emotional level is not healthy.
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>>559708638
So Sky brought us Ouroboros and Crossbell brought us Heiyue, two of the worst factions in the series. Amazing.
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>>559710031
Jurai and Nord are directly tied to Erebonia. I'm more looking for places like Valis and the Iskan Free Cities (which are probably where a far east arc would take place). Even Elsaim kind of meets that.
>>559710410
>>559711125
You both seem to hate every arc that isn't Cold Steel.
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>>559710410
nta, but cs did not have a lot going on by the third game either, whereas calvard has more with 3, and that’s taking into account the big nothing burger kuro 2 is
And even with azure’s ending where the SSS goes on the run being disappointing after the arc was such a thriller trounces all of what cs did
A civil war? Ha! More like a romp around eastern erebonia collecting mostly non noble thors students while the actual fighting takes place offscreen in west erebonia, and then opps! doesn’t matter what you did cause you were played by rufus and osborne as fiddle. And what’s the reward for putting up with that? destroying the significance of hamel because it was all just part of le curse’s keikaku
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>>559711296
I love every arc pre-Calvard, not sure how you got a different impression from my post.
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>>559711296
I obviously stooped down to that poster's level to mirror his disingenuous argumentation.
There's no point to arguing in good faith with vankid.
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People look at CS with such rose tinted glasses nowadays
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Why is that guy so obsessed with his hatred for Cold Steel?
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>>559711442
>>559711648
You both were eager to throw other arcs under the bus to prop up Cold Steel.
Also there was no West Zemuria arc concluded in Cold Steel. Calvard is still counted as West Zemuria. Kondo's spins don't mean anything when so easily contradicted
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Old good new bad.
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>>559711360
Nta and that's simply not true.
Calvard has three games out and we're currently back at status quo.
Cold Steel went through an entire civil war and restructuring of the ruling government, introduced twice as many towns and cities as Calvard, and had a proper character arc for its protagonist by that point in time.
>And even with azure’s ending where the SSS goes on the run being disappointing after the arc was such a thriller trounces all of what cs did
No idea how you could think that the final chapter of Azure and climbing the tree was more engaging than the conclusion of the civil war and annexation of Crossbell in CSII.
>A civil war? Ha! More like a romp around eastern erebonia collecting mostly non noble thors students while the actual fighting takes place offscreen in west erebonia
Yeah, a civil war where people actually die and towns are burned down before your eyes, as opposed to the Red Constellation raiding Crossbell with zero named casualties.
Between CSI and CSII, CSIII and CSIV, the entire tone of the game changes. You go from being a student or part of the establishment to refugees in war who search for their missing comrades. Going from Zero to Azure essentially doesn't change anything about the gameplay loop except for the order in which you visit Mainz, Armorica and the Hospital.
You're really just hating on Cold Steel by using "arguments" that'd rather apply to the arcs you defend.
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>>559711864
Half of those posts are Vankid/Vankidfag so he can samefag and shit up the thread.
>>559712525
The one true constant.
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>>559713012
More shitting on other arcs to prop up Cold Steel...
Throughout the entirety of Cold Steel you're just a pawn in the game of others. You don't have a single real independent action. The wars were all planned out to the letter before they started and the number of towns introduced doesn't mean much when they feel hollow compared to other towns. The best you can say is that they at least let you leave them.
>No idea how you could think that the final chapter of Azure and climbing the tree was more engaging
You learn to care about KeA deeply by the end of Azure. The Infernal Castle had Crow's unearned "tragic" "death" and literally who Cedric.
>Yeah, a civil war where people actually die and towns are burned down before your eyes,
Celdic burns down and one person dies. The only other death is Vulcan. It's pathetic. Kids gloves.
>You go from being a student or part of the establishment to refugees in war who search for their missing comrades by doing the same side quests in every Kiseki game. There's no real departure from this throughout it all. It's pathetic. Azure did in one final chapter what both CS2 and CS4 set out to do. And it even ended, it didn't add bloat after.
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>>559714713
More shitting on Cold Steel to prop up Crossbell...
I don't care about your hateboner, to be honest.
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>>559714713
>Throughout the entirety of Cold Steel you're just a pawn in the game of others. You don't have a single real independent action
Lloyd and co are being played by Mariabell from the beginning of Zero all the way to the end of Azure. Everything they do, even finding KeA and stopping the cult, is part of her plan.
>You learn to care about KeA deeply by the end of Azure. The Infernal Castle had Crow's unearned "tragic" "death" and literally who Cedric.
KeA joins at the end of Zero and barely shows up during Azure while Crow is a classmate and actual party member throughout all of CSI. I didn't care much for KeA and how everyone kept wanking her cuteness.
>Celdic burns down and one person dies. The only other death is Vulcan. It's pathetic. Kids gloves.
There's another casualty at the watchtower, Roan, and Gideon of course. That makes five named character deaths compared to Crossbell's zero casualties.
And that's just counting those you know by name. Plenty of soldiers and terrorists die during the war; burnt out tanks are littered througout Nord. That's as gruesome as Trails has ever been.
Frankly speaking, it's ridiculous that you'd even point the topic of "casualties" out when the total of named character deaths who died during the course of a game before CS was one (1), with Loewe.

How long are you going to keep repeating arguments that apply to Crossbell much more than they do to Cold Steel? You're making a fool of yourself.
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>>559716026
>No you have to like Cold Steel!
Reanbro, do you wonder why people treat you so badly? You can't scream about other arcs and then expect people to take you seriously.
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>>559713012
>>559717019
>You're really just hating on Cold Steel by using "arguments" that'd rather apply to the arcs you defend.
That basically boils down what Cold Steel hate comes down to.
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Anons, what is the best AA setting in the Sky remake? Performance is the same between all.
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>>559717019
>Lloyd and co are being played by Mariabell from the beginning of Zero all the way to the end of Azure.
Their actions weren't manipulated to the letter like what happens in every Cold Steel game. Mariabell has her plan but for Lloyd and co. it only results in KeA being picked up.
>I didn't care much for KeA and how everyone kept wanking her cuteness.
Sounds like you just wanted a reason to view another arc as lesser because Cold Steel is the arc that receives the most hate.
>There's another casualty at the watchtower, Roan, and Gideon of course.
We're talking about CS2, that's all CS1. Have you even played the games? The most gruesome Kiseki ever got was the Erebonian terrorists being mowed down by the Red Constellation before they got sanitised in Cold Steel. When they would collapse chandeliers on people instead of having swimming competitions.
>the total of named character deaths who died during the course of a game before CS was one (1), with Loewe.
You really haven't played the games. You forgot Weissmann, not to mention Pater-Mater before the holo-core shit. All pretty meaningful deaths unlike fucking Roan and Vulcan's forced drama, and also technically Gideon is a Crossbell death.
Because Cold Steel got criticised you have to try and deflect onto other arcs. It's pathetic and an admission that Cold Steel can't be properly defended.
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>>559713012
It is true.
>status quo
You mean like exactly what happens after CS2 where we return to the status quo of CS1 where Osborne holds most of the power and the noble faction is vastly underpowered? Or are you going to tell me it is different because Crossbell got annexed for (mostly) memberberries bullshit and so the curse could play out?
And wow, we go to more towns! That are mostly time wasters in the interim where the party goes from A to B and where you do a few sidequests. Throughout its entirety, the most important places of the arc remain Trista, Heimdallr, Leeves and Eryn. Crossbell has heightened importance in Reverie more than even CS4.
>No idea how you could think that the final chapter of Azure and climbing the tree was more engaging than the conclusion of the civil war and annexation of Crossbell in CSII.
I got an idea how that happened, several actually. Let’s start with because I care more about just Tio, Randy and Noel than I did for all of CS’s main characters. Because the arc found a way to nicely balance its extremely dark undertones with characters that embody resilience and who find meaning in struggling against seemingly insurmountable odds, and who rightly earn the trust and admiration of the citizens they are sworn to help and protect. Then there is also the fact that the metanarrative twist KeA drops in the Azure Tree is kino of the highest level. I am still amazed Crossbell was an arc that happened out of necessity so the team could learn to work with a 3D engine.
1/3
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>Cuckbellfag forgetting that his arc is literal filler to fill the gap between Sky and Cold Steel
lmao
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>>559719449
Reanbro... Stop making a fool out of yourself.
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>>559719262
>Yeah, a civil war where people actually die and towns are burned down before your eyes, as opposed to the Red Constellation raiding Crossbell with zero named casualties.
I addressed this point last time you brought it up, and you clearly think it is a sort of “gotcha” point because you LOVE to bring it up, but again, you wanna talk about deaths? Sure. NPCs DO die when the RC attacks. Just like how NPCs die offscreen in Erebonia’s conflicts. Of course a midwit like you would need to have someone spell out to them that an NPC dying in a fire caused by a noble having a melty and not the war hits nowhere near as hard as Joachim dying, Gideon dying, Guy being killed, and the fact that Crossbell’s plot is literally built on child death, experimentation, torture and even prostitution. Go ahead and tell me any of the named casualties that happen in either the Civil War or operation Jorgunmandr. And before you try and be cute: Otto and Vulcan are not part of those conflicts, and neither was Gideon’s death.
2/3
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>>559719592
>Between CSI and CSII, CSIII and CSIV, the entire tone of the game changes. You go from being a student or part of the establishment to refugees in war who search for their missing comrades. Going from Zero to Azure essentially doesn't change anything about the gameplay loop except for the order in which you visit Mainz, Armorica and the Hospital.
The tone doesn’t change much until after 3. And even if you were to press the point it is completely in bad faith to say the tone from Zero to Azure doesn’t change immediately as you go from reviled beat cops to local heroes, and what gets put on the SSS’s plate just grows and grows.
Meanwhile 1 and 3 mirror each other and so do 2 and 4, and yet for most of the arc, including until you beat Osborne in 4 nearly all that happens is in accordance to someone’s scheming and the “fufufu, this just like I imagined” schtick gets old very quickly. Even characterwise, most of old Class VII stops getting any development after CS2 to focus on New Class VII, and even then people like Kurt and Musse have next to nothing in terms of development. Rean himself gets essentially reset into having his old problems he had in CS1, down to not controlling his ogre form well and fearing it, and it takes till Reverie for his character to get over his martyr syndrome and to make an effort to lead a happy life, not one of wanting to kill himself for his friends because he thinks all life should be for him is work and atonement for things mostly out of his control. No other MC is that conceited.
Sure in Crossbell and Sky you retread old ground, but the value you put in the change of scenery that CS has I put in the good writing Sky and Crossbell had, and that makes visiting the same locales more tolerable than going to new ones guided by terribly lackluster writing.
3/3
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>>559719592
>Go ahead and tell me any of the named casualties that happen in either the Civil War or operation Jorgunmandr.
Julian Braun.
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If Crossbell is so bad why does everyone outside here love it so much?
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>>559721502
A better question: if Cold Steel is so good, why do people always ask if it really is “that bad” and why do CSfags have to convince others to play it?
>>559720116
>an NPC we never meet with 0 impact whatsoever to the story
Haha… so this is the toll of the savage WAR unleashed upon Erebonia twice…
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>>559484079
Cinq : elle est une fille d'une ONG d'immigration!
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>>559721849
>if Cold Steel is so good, why do people always ask if it really is “that bad”
Not "people", "vankid". It's one obsessed schizo who had his life destroyed by Cold Steel and wages a war on it by repeating these repetitive arguments week after week.
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>>559722205
>Not "people", "vankid".
*People* have criticised Cold Steel since it came out in the west.
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>>559722378
No, you see, that was Vankid, even all the way back in 2017. He knew Van and Calvard were coming up next and got uppity.
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Ragecuck asshole status?
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>>559643726
the cuckdricfags as usual ran away with their tail between their legs
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Imagine the smell
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>>559721961
Tu travailles pour une ONG d'immigration!
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>>559726071
>FC
Sweaty, musty, hint of piss
>FC
Musty, but properly groomed. Any man that smells it is intoxicated by the scent of a flower in full bloom.
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>>559726826
>Sweaty, musty, hint of piss
Nice.
>Musty, but properly groomed. Any man that smells it is intoxicated by the scent of a flower in full bloom.
Boring.
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>>559723485
Eternally rekt and BTFO by owner estimations of recent games data.
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>>559692492
>>559693338
>>559693770
>>559694132
>>559694906
Altina in thighhighs here would make me cum just from the overwhelming sexual stimuli coming through my eyes
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>>559712363
Cute and canon
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>>559727270
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(CSIV)
GIWTWM

Gotta say, this game is a straight upgrade from CSIII in almost every aspect so far.
We got new highway themes, an amazing battle theme, the Break system was fixed and battles are actually challenging again, and they added a bunch of cute extras like characters making comments after you heal them in the camp menu.
They put a lot of passion into it.
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>>559727270
>>559728414
Estelle's smug face after breaking wind
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>56 fucking Altina posts in this thread
>FIFTY SIX
Spam. Plain and simple.
Stop spamming one of the worst girls in the series, who is almost as shit as Alisa.
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>>559727094
Why do you wanna smell piss you fucking freak
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>>559728414
Thank you for downgrading my image.
No need to thank me for thanking you.
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>>559723485
>>559727270
>>559728414
>>559728923
Why do Estelle posters always give off such heavy tranny vibes?
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>>559728921
Because I'm a masochist, obviously.
Also, because it's Estelle's piss, which I would gladly drink straight from the source.
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>>559729041
Why do you think about trannies so much that you see an image of the best Kiseki protagonist and the first thing that comes to mind is trannies?
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>>559729263
>the best Kiseki protagonist
That's Rean, though.
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>>559729263
It's that passive aggressive behavior hidden behind a smug anime girl.
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>>559729318
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>>559729063
>being a man and being a bottom
LMAOOOOO
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>That's Rean, though.
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>>559729041
that's because they are, she's the definition of a character that appeals to modern woke audiences
>inb4 muh wokeschizzy boogeyman
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>>559728571
you gonna address >>559643726 or do you admit cuckdric is shit lilbro
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>>559729629
It's more that Estelle's the older model. Nadia is the current model.
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>>559728923
:)
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>>559729318
In bizarro world, sure.
Unless you’re that much of a mentally, emotionally and financially stunted manchild?
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>>559729318
That really got the schizzy malding.
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>>559730010
nadia is for the "quirky" zoomspeak septum ring girls that haven't mentally matured past the age of 12
estelle is for the overweight trannies that like to think they're headstrong girlbosses who can do anything if they put their mind to it.
note there is also probably some overlap between these two audiences
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>>559730828
>that really got me mad
Is it dissociation time?
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>>559731008
Xstelle is pure tumblr. Nadiia is pure reddit.
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>>559729950
There's nothing to address; we will never agree because you keep disregarding my arguments. There's no point to keep going.
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>>559729263
“tranny” is the current nonsensical insult 4chan midwits that make it their personality being here all use, like “soiboi” and “cuck” before them.
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Tell me...who is Lloyd's future wife?
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>>559732057
Noel since Elie wants Xin, Tio wants Jona, and Rixia wants both Cao and Gaolang.
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>>559732057
__KeA__
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>>559731825
you confuse me with him.
that guy was way too nice to not spoil you, whereas i would.
cuckdric will eat shit throughout the entire CS saga. and i also do think you’re the sole cuckdric dickrider simply because i want to believe we don’t have more than 1 really stupid person itt

but alas, my point is proven: be it by insults or through argument, cuckdricfags ran away with their tail between their legs
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>>559732057
Randy
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>>559731393
true that's the best way to describe it
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>>559732863
Estelle haters would know what tumblr and reddit are like through personal experience
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>>559733226
The internet isn't segregated you know. Your kind tries to find it's way into every corner of decent places to corrupt and twist them.
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>>559733526
sure, sure
go cry about it in tumblr or reddit
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>>559733671
Even now the best you can do is a pathetic
> no u!
You don't fit in here tranny. Either kill yourself or go back already and report another failed raid.
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The Rean Mean Machine strikes again.
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>reddit/tumblrfag calling anyone a tranny
oh i am laffing
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>no u! again
Tranny...
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uh oh, estelletranny melty!!!
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Post the sky 1st OST.
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Redditfags seething lmao, we know you’re all reanspics
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>>559732057
Me
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>>559736697
Rean...
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>>559732057
Rixia
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>>559732408
Noey...
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>>559736815
>final game
>van tells risette to have sex with the GM while they fight off everyone else in Ouroboros
>risette makes the GM cum too fast and she accidentally uses the auroele to turn rean into reana
>becomes a woman and was rean so she starts jobbing immediately but ROIDO saves her
>”uh…rean, what happened, you okay?”
>reana blushes and falls in love with him at the spot
>end game credits, see pictures of reana nervously asking lloyd out, a pic of their wedding with elie, rixia and noel ugly crying, and a pic of lloyd, reana, their son who has rean’s hairstyle and lloyd’s hair color and grown up KeA who has huge breasts
haha…
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I'm glad /fg/ doesn't write the games...
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>>559737901
>doesn’t wanna see GM and risette sex
gay
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>>559737685
>and grown up KeA who has huge breasts
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>>559738106
Why would I want that when I can be the man that sexes the Grandmaster?
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>>559739208
>>559739208
>>559739208
>>559739208
>>559739208
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>>559739215
You could never satisfy the GM.
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>>559739440
The GM hasn't been touched by a man in hundreds of millennium. She'd cum instantly.
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>>559739794
Only to Risette



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