A Dark Justiciar Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>559246512
Honestly, I still love Shadowheart.
Jennifer
>>559535584her, astarion, laezel & jaheira are the only good companions
Gorion's Ward said:Minthara is canonically 150Minthara is canonically bisexualMinthara sucked 100 goblin cocksI collect barrels and throw them at every boss including MintharaI respect all women but MintharaIf you romance Minthara you are a horrible personIf you romance Astarion you are a great personI ascended AstarionI romanced ascended AstarionI play with lots of mods onI fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved itShadowheart is right not to use her birthnameGale was groomed by MystraI play sorcererI camp castWyll is a characterI sympathized with KethericI play male TavI love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
>>559536696>I love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarvesme too, we need more of those in divinity, bg3's sequel
>>55953689113 more elves coming right up
pregnant wyll
>>559537345
>>559537345Total elf love
>>559535584
I only play pure Elves but I mod to add the shield proficiency
>>559541738You know it smells crazy in there
>>559541801*cheat
>>559541929Don't care, didn't ask plus you're trans
>Finally rescue Wyll's papa.>He keeps saying Wyll sold his soul to set him free.>Even though I didn't accept Mizora's deal.>But also Wyll is still calling himself the Blade of Avernus, which I'm pretty sure he wouldn't if he had taken the deal? (citation needed)This is just awkward. I have no idea if something is bugged or not now.It was still a pretty heartwarming scene, once I showed Ravengard the truth.
>>559541801just pick a level of fighter and multiclass silly
>>559535584This has always been a Shadowheart general. And a Lae'zel one. And a Karlach one. And a Minthara one. We love our four princesses here.
>>559542270nobody care about minthara, not even mintharafag kek
>>559541801Eh, I feel weird using shields on the races where Swen just made that up, like humans and halfelfs. That's not a real rule. Plus the dual wield feat for dual staffs is pretty fine too and doesn't require modding. More on that: >>508804308
>>559542270
this is also a helia generalrip
>we could have had a fucking werewolf as a party member
>>559542807It would have been a gimmick nobody really used, click this button to wild shape into something that basically gimps you.
>>559543264it's probably the reason she got cut, having to respect the werewolf's pretty weak statsheets & abilities is definitely gay, something something dnd is limiting
>>559542551nobody open the archives to read your old posts
SHARTERHURT
>werewolf designed by larian>death bite: bite your opponent stealing some of their vitality, if the opponent has 10% HP left, instantly kill them>on the hunt: leap to an area, you are immune to fall damage while using moon leap, any enemy that you land on will be knocked down, the distance scales with your strength>killer howl: any opponent medium sized or small is terrified and can't walk towards you, if they're too close, they take physical damage>werewolf in dnd 5e>multiattack: can attack several times>claws:can use your claws
>>559543535nobody read his dogshit posts period
just imagine fighting that garbage in the creche, thank god larian reworked the shit out of the monsters
helia would have been more popular than wyll
>>559544556all the cut companions would have been more popular than wyll, minthara & halsin>heliabard & a FUCKING werewolf, having a QT patootie turn into a bloodthirsty beast would have been peak and bring tons of drama to the camp>dark urgenuff said>alfiranuff said>kethericketheric not being a companion was literally swen's biggest regret
>>559542270i like how lae'zel has the most kawaii expression
>>559544770Would Ketheric companion still have Jk Simmons' voice?
>>559545003duhhh
>>559542551Very informative post as usual.
>>559545180The budget
>>559535731>Lae’zel when she gets ahold of Shadowheart’s panties
>>559545296>bg3's early access literally broke steamnot an issue
>>559545253Good post ME
>>559544550I will never forgive Larian for their shitty "balance" changes like what they did with Mage Hand.
>>559544770>kethericwhat is with swen and undead companions
>>559545415They gave Simmons 1 million for a few years wasn't. Now imagine all of act 3.
>>559545841*few lines. Hollywood actor pricey
>>559545841A million for that? Sheesh.
>>559545771undead characters inherently got tons of lore>>559545841he's an A list actor oscar winning actor no shit, larian can afford him, I'm sure that divinity will have big names too, swen seems to care about these kind of things
Thoughts about creating a hireling alchemist for camp potion duty? Is this cheese/cheating or acceptable roleplay?
>>559546379You have a rule-bending retired death god in your camp giving you bargain discounts on True Resurrection. It’s entirely acceptable.
>only Karlach has an achievement for her romance What did Larian mean by this?
>>559543493Should've just changed her into a weretyrannosaurus
>>559546767emperor has one too
>>559546379If it's role play then either "pay" him in gold or RP that he does it for free if you can source the materials as thanks for giving him a place to stay. It's closer to the cheese side of the line than standard play but it's extremely tame compared to say gold duping or save scumming.
>>559546710>>559547094I've personally always been against the concept of sacrificing skills for resource generation in games like this. Like I hate the game design of the Antiqurian in Darkest Dungeon. Taking a weaker class just to be able to generate more resources (potions) is a bad game design in my opinion and shouldn't exist. Now having like a permanent camp companion/hireling do it I'm not sure about.
>>559547543You literally have a character in camp giving you undead minions to use as you please. You’re overthinking it.
>>559544550wtf is 'loyal bad'?
>>559549603Think it's ghetto translated lawful evil.
>>559546379>Is this cheese/cheating or acceptable roleplay?As always, the answer to this question depends on you. What do you consider acceptable? Are you willing to place explosive barrels in strategic locations before initiating a fight? Are you willing to fast travel to avoid the consequences of your actions? Are you willing to teleport an item from a party member's inventory? Just because the game allows it doesn't mean it's not cheesy - therefore unsatisfying. Putting aside your question for a moment, consider whether the game is difficult enough to warrant eking out every possible advantage in that manner. Even on a challenge Honor run, it would probably prove counterproductive.>>559546710>>559547852I find this justification dubious. Sure, hirelings are an established game mechanic. Sure, each one even comes with a semblance of a backstory so one might momentarily forget that they are little more than a flesh puppet controlled by Withers. But hirelings really are backups for the minority of players who absolutely hate the companions for some reason. They are not really part of the narrative, so they shouldn't be part of the gameplay either. Nothing stops a player from respeccing Gale into a transmuter Wizard - or potion-brewing bitch, as I prefer to call them - with a dip into Bard for Expertise in Medicine. But that would no longer be roleplaying.
>>559551769Cute Shadowheart.
My top 5 classes:1. Paladin2. Monk3. Warlock4. Assassin/Gloomstalker (I know it's a build, not a class, but holy fuck they go so damn well together)5. Druid (Land)What's your top 5, guys?
If this is our last thread let it be known that I love my wife with all my heart.
>>559554534Right. Name three things you like about her that are non-physical.
>>559554534anal with your wife.
>>559552941>Life cleric of Ilmater pacifist>Giant barb with colossus elixir kicking bitches off cliffs>Swarmkeeper ranger psychic damage>Swashbuckler rogue disarming martial enemies>Death cleric applying touch of death on hit with inflict woundsPaladins get an honorable mention. As satisfying as it is to apply a divine smite to a critical hit, I fucking hate playing on eggshells trying to make sure I don't break my oath because I had a different view of things to Larian
>>559552730>Putting aside your question for a moment, consider whether the game is difficult enough to warrant eking out every possible advantage in that mannerI mean, the only reason you would do this is to save up on a bit of vendor farming to get the mats and potions. It's not really a min max to get a small advantage but to save a bit of time
>>559552941>Assassin/GloomstalkerI prefer sword bard into assassin personally
>>559555503>I fucking hate playing on eggshells trying to make sure I don't break my oath because I had a different view of things to LarianThere's a mod that shows you what flags does each dialogue option carry with it, have to admit I do use it when playing Paladin. Some of the oathbreaking options are sometimes just a total bitch move.>Temple of Umberlee in Act 3.>If you're Oath of Vengeance, you literally cannot reject the quest, it breaks your oath.>Even though they're priestesses of a Chaotic Evil deity.
>>559549865I kinda like your character but didn you start the game like last week? how come youre in balduran's gate already
>>559552941Favorite:Paladin (veng or oathbreaker)BladesingerEldritch KnightStorm sorcererSwords bardLeast favorite:NecromancerSpore druidMoon druidUndead summons are so annoying to manage in this game and wildshape sucks if you're the party face.
Being a druid is kinda gay so pass
>>559556041The priestesses don't do any evil stuff in-game unless you count possibly killing Redhammer who's a child trafficer and a lot of other things. Umberlee's temples are not outlawed like Bhaal worship either.
>>559556370I started almost two months ago and had a couple of weeks break.
>>559556730I see, I thought you were speedrunning the whole thing, silly me I guess>>559556548>>559556440good, more druid builds for methey're awesome
>>559556572They're still not a good thing to help. Umberlee worship isn't illegal because she's somehow much better than any other evil deity, Umberlee worship isn't illegal because if you make it illegal she's going to completely and utterly destroy any fleets or maritime commerce you have. Nobody actually likes Umberlee except her church, and even the most hardcore sailors only ever interact with it as necessary to do a voyage because the only reasonable thing to do is drop your tribute and then try to not get noticed.
I don't remember there being more than a handful of Performance skill checks in the game, is proficiency in Performance even worth it on a Bard?
>>559556969You can go to npc hubs and play and they all surround you to watch and then applaud you and toss coins :D
>>559554670Hm. I really like her name.
>>559556969Bard has unique performance checks I think.
>>559556838they dont call her the bitch queen for nothing
>>559556838Helping to avenge Holli doesn't have an evil result since the target is a stooge for Gortash and the submarine leaking oil into the sea is bad for the local fishermen as well. Although leaving the Iron Throne alone is probably the most environmental course of action.
>>559557116
Animal Handling should not exist as a skill.
>>559557531The submarine leaking oil is indeed a bad thing, but also Redhammer, if you poke around in his diary and stuff, never realized until he had built all that shit and transported the hostages that there was something shady going on. Gortash just hired him to build a high security prison and submarine and never actually let him know any of what he was actually doing. By the time you meet him, he was formulating a plan to escape and avoid Gortash, because he started to realize shit was worse than what he had been hired for.As for the priestess... I mean, they're the ones that attacked him and he just ran one over by accident while getting away. Really the only bad thing he's done is the oil leak, at which point it could be excused with it being an unfinished prototype that he hopefully means to fix.
>>559556969No, it really isn’t. Performance doesn’t have that many checks in the game, and the ones that are there are fairly low rolls.
I don't understand why medicine is under wisdom instead of intelligence.
>>559558060It's so fucking pointless. Anyone who plans to deal with animals is just going to get Speak with Animals. Why would you negate yourself the possibility of getting so much of some of the best dialogue?
>>559558083Where does it say they attacked him? All I remember is that one was swimming in the harbour and the submarine crashed into her.
>>559558249What's his endgame?
>>559558197I feel like religion (int) and medicine should swap places
>>559558267They talk about a poisonous monster that was contaminating the water so they went after it, and later when you question Redhammer himself he says a bunch of crazy bitches started jumping his submarine so he freaked out.
>>559558249Yes, I would remove it from the game. Folk Hero should give you Persuasion instead.I could see Animal Handling being reworked to buff all your other Charisma checks with animals. So a Persuasion check would add animal handling + persuasion to the roll. As it is right now, it should just be removed.
>>559558415https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFsElxims-s
>>559558512I don't remember them even being aware of the sub before the bumping incident.
>>559558774They think it's a monster, they send you to kill the monster and whoever is controlling it into roaming the port.
>>559558420>medicineSpeaking of worthless skills…
Stealth is also extremely useless
The most important skills for the main character:1. Persuasion 2. Investigation 3. Insight 4. Intimidation
>>559559113>Any place you want to sneak into will most likely have a myriad blind spots to avoid having to roll in the first place.>Any place where they don't want you sneaking into will inevitably have some asshole with some special perception spell or condition to make sure you can't pass the stealth check.>And any tight place with no blind spots you'll just cast invisibility and sprint past them.
>>559559513Perception is a good one. Sleight of Hand gets lots of use.
>>559560201I don't remember there being many perception checks in dialogue, mostly insight, but I could be misremembering. >Sleight of HandI do remember a few but I don't think I selected many of them in dialogue.
>>559560634Perception is more for those passive exploration rolls. Sleight of Hand does come in handy in a few cases instances where you don’t want to drink something given to you.
>>559546354you rather they waste money on his voice then other parts of the game, lol
>>559558893I was really hoping it would affect the potency of healing spells or potions.
>>559556838Gods of the ocean are not worshipped out of love but appeased out of fear. The sea is not kind to people.
>>559561190>Perception is more for those passive exploration rollsAll companions roll on that though, so it's not important to have it on the main character>Sleight of Hand does come in handy in a few cases instancesYeah, but not a priority skill.
So is Minthara a good character? Will I even like her as a companion? I'm planning on having her replace Karlach in my next playthrough, but I've never actually gone further than fucking her after raiding the grove and then reloading.
>>559565145Minthara is a great character, but she doesn’t really shine until the end of Act 2.
>>559565145she is the funniest drow i know
>>559565765You know many drows then?
So why can't Clerics choose proficiency in perception?
WHAT DO YOU FUCKING MEAN???
>>559566902Palacucks keep taking L after L
>>559566902cheaters take another L
>>559566902
>>559566956>>559567036>>559567337I picked it anyway and it didn't break my oath, so I'm gonna guess maybe it was just a residual tag for the case where you blow it up with the gondians still inside?Either way I feel bad for Barcus.
I don't like Paladins because they limit my roleplay
>>559567561Paladins are overrated.
>>559568124Tavern Brawler Monk and GWM Fighter goes brrr
>>559567561I dont like paladin because their spellslots suck
>>559567432>I feel bad for Barcushaha windmill goes brrr
>>559568240That, and their whole super serious “divine light shines from my righteous ass” schtick gets old fast.
>>559563503I'm interested
>>559558197In a world where medical knowledge is limited and cures often consist of herbal remedies and improvised concoctions, I think it's defensible. Folk healers wouldn't know formal theory, but they would recognize common symptoms and ailments. Medicine could also reasonably be an INT skill - and a human DM could certainly allow INT to be used in some cases - but D&D abstracts it into a WIS skill for consistency. It makes sense, if only because Gale being naturally better at first aid than Shadowheart would be weird.
>>559549865Love this location. Look forward to visiting it every playthrough.
Ah fuck it.How good is Oathbreaker?
>>559570954It sucks
>>559557116What is her name?
How different is making a hireling to be a potion bot, from recruiting Halsin (a respected druid and medicinal man) and making him do the same thing? There's nothing that says all companions must exist to be part of combat, or that the primary purpose of the game is to engage in the combat and any character that doesn't do that or exists only to bolster your combat prowess is a cheese strat. How different is it from just pickpocketing merchants after you long rest? It's all a matter of perspective and the only people who care are autists who wouldn't be happy unless you did a no long rest no vendor solo run or some other ultra restricted bullshit. Just do what you want.
>>559558197I always took wisdom to be understanding how to apply your knowledge, which is where the wizards being dumbasses meme comes from. All the intelligence in the world won't stop them from making the same mistakes over and over again thinking it will be different because "no way I would make a dumbass mistake".In that context medicine as wisdom makes sense.
Nettie, my beloved
>>559542270i truly love my frog wife
>>559582389Does it bother you that she has like less than two minutes worth of dialogue across all conversation choices? You could probably recite the entire interaction verbatim.
Do you top or bottom with Lae'zel during the sex scene?
>>559582694Yeah, it's sad but it is what it is
>>559582851I always let her take the lead because I don't want her to possibly mock me if I fail the roll and I don't want to use inspirations
I recommend the all-day coatings mod. I never used weapon coatings because it's tedious to apply them for just 10 turns but use them at the start of each day and even the shitty ones will get you some benefit. It's a little janky though where leveling up will cause the coating to expire but whatever. You may as well get some value from those poisons and oils.
>>559542042Did you finish Wyll companion's quest (which ends in the camp after killing Ansur) before rescuing the Grand Duke?>>559549865I knew she was familiar from somewhere.>>559559113It can be extremely useful and allows you to carry out tacticool missions of your own. I sneaked into Gortash' private quarters before the coronation, read everything there and stole the two unique items without alerting a soul.You might need Invisibility or even a Greater one at a certain point (there's a guard across a chest, starring right at it with Darkvision) but nobody said they're mutually exclusive. Stealth is often an all-or-nothing but it's powerful.>>559570954>>559567432So it did turn out to be an Oathbreaking action even if the civilians were rescued before?
bg3 looks way too realistic, larian should go back to making very stylized games
I am getting choice paralysis with classes/subclasses before I've even started. Holy shit.
>>559588062Go with what feels cool
>>559588062Don't overthink it. Read the descriptions and play whatever you like or can relate to. If you need a tip CHA classes are underrepresented (there's an easily accessible Warlock companion and a Paladin whom you won't recruit during your first run unless the method has been spoiled for you). They're also powerful on their own and make splendid party faces, so playing a Bard, Paladin or Sorcerer is a safe bet.
Could you do something like BG3 in other DnD settings? Greyhawk and Eberron very likely since they're relatively open and expansive but what about Dragonlance?
Lowkey wanna play dos2 more than bg3 rn
>>559593436Opposite here. I am mid D:OS2 playthrough, level 21, about to visit the Doctor, and I just don't feel like booting the game. Instead I am considering a lone wolf style playthrough of BG3 because I have never tried it. I usually can't help but bring companions along.On that topic, I know that late game I want to abjuration tank because a solo is the only way to get enemies to actually target you. But what would be a good class for act 1 for maximum survivability. I will be trying to get into combat where possible (especially if there are tangible benefits like the hag hair). Do I just grab the heaviest plate I can find and play a class that complements that?
>>559595973Barbs are hard to kill especially in act 1
>>559591824>>559588260Gonna go for a War Cleric with a two-hander. Any tips?
>>559596674Get on your enemies face and keep spirit guardians up when you get it. You don't have proper extra attack so if you want to get the most out of the one you do, get booming blade from multiclassing, feat or being a (half) high elf.
>>559596674Most Clerics can get away not hitting shit. War Domain isn't one of them. Big part of your specialty is smashing foes so you'll actually need STR on top of the WIS (your caster stat, important because of the Spell DC) and front-liners need CON even with Heavy Armour. Also your options to raise STR (even in "Until Next Long Rest" format) will be much more plentiful than WIS. Just something to keep in mind during char creation.
>>559597492With war cleric I'd leave dex at 10 even. There's an elixir for high initiative too.
I haven't seen swen the same way ever since you guys told me that he wants to fuck dragonborns & lizards
>>559598669If the dragon has tits, doesn't matter. Flat chest and cloaca is too furry, one step away from raping a monitor lizard in some Indian back alley.
>>559598861none of these words are in the bible
>>559598891They used to be but were too based for the translators.
we back
Jen!
don't die on me /bgg/ we still got plenty to talk about
>>559582416everyone loves frog
>>5595959731. If we're strictly talking about early-game durability, Eldritch Knight, Hexblade, and Paladin are strong candidates - the first two because of Shield, the third because of Shield of Faith. There is still the issue of critical hits, especially if you insist on being a frontliner, but these are negated once you wear adamantine armor. An example level 4 Eldritch Knight with Defense Fighting Style, Chain Mail +1, Ring of Protection, and a shield would already have 21 AC, increased to 26 with Shield. A Paladin would have 23 AC when Shield of Faith is up, with the caveat that it is a Concentration spell. The majority of early-game damage comes from attacks, so the Heavy Armor Master feat is worth considering, though it might not fit every character concept.2. However, durability is not the only aspect to consider. You need to deal damage as well. The Apostle of Myrkul is a notorious hard filter for solo challenges, because it's not really a fight you can win through attrition. You need to end that fight fast, before the Apostle gets a chance to heal. There are earlier examples, but this is the one boss fight you need to plan for in a solo run. I can't solve this problem for you. I don't have the experience. I'm sure there are plenty of guides out there that spoonfeed you a possible answer, but it's more satisfying to come up with your own.
Going to start a new run but want to try out some mod classes. For anons who use them what are the best ones?
>my varsh said i can't play
Just came to this dying general to say that I cannot fucking stand Karlach.
>>559584006>Did you finish Wyll companion's quest (which ends in the camp after killing Ansur) before rescuing the Grand Duke?Yep. The scene where he decides between becoming Grand Duke himself or becoming the Blade of Avernus (to which I picked the second).>>559584006>So it did turn out to be an Oathbreaking action even if the civilians were rescued before?No, it didn't break my oath. Again, I'm guessing you just get that option if you didn't free the gondians, since then you're kinda killing them all.>>559588062It's taken me literal years to even get to the end of the game as I am approaching now because of choice paralysis. And even then I keep respeccing. I've gone back to Eldritch Knight now, my brief dalliance with Paladin is over.The irony is that now subsequent playthroughs will probably be much easier to go through because my first and only first time experience is already done.
>>559602286artificer of course
today i found out that bg3 has no basic ccno attacks or cantrips that can make enemies skip a turni miss dos2 and the sucker punch
>>559604607ray of frost technically can if you got the right gear/positioning, druids also have a whip cantrip that drags the enemy towards them it definitely has way less CC than dos2 yeah
>>559604156
can't really figure out which class to roll with>warlock has the glock>monk is the only one that can make enemies go prone>bard has buffs, free rest and hideous laughter
>>559607934play warlock, turn karlach/laezel into a monk and make astarion/wyll a bard
>>559607934>>monk is the only one that can make enemies go pronePOV: battlemaster'zel just used trip attack on youretard
>>559607934Give your warlock the spineshudder amulet and proning will happen.
>>559607934>warlockYou get a Warlock companion at level 2 or 3 who comes with his own patron and quest. You'll have plenty of time to experience what the class has to offer.>monkEven a bottle of Grease or some Ice can cause Prone. There's plenty of good reasons to play a Monk but that one Prone Flurry is such a small part of it.>bardIt just thicks all the boxes. Versatile, powerful, party face, the ultimate support class. If I were you I'd go with this one especially if you're a first-time player.
>>559606237You can put to sleep, blind, knock back, knock prone, slow, immobilize, confuse, charm, dominate, and yes, stun enemies in BG3. Only a moron or shitposter would argue that the game lacks CC.
always with the porn
>>559609525>Only a moron or shitposter would argue that the game lacks CC.>it definitely has way less CC than dos2 yeah?
>>559609389alright, i'll go with bard>>559608062is it possible to change the other character's class?
>>559609902>is it possible to change the other character's class?sure, either finish the crypt dungeon near the beach where you start the game or advance through the main quest long enough and an NPC will join your camp, he'll revive/respec your characters from now on
>>559609902Yes you can reclass everyone. The warlock companion sucks ass also
>>559609785Yeah, we get it. You're going to keep samefagging and cry about all the little things you miss from Larian's Other Game. But that doesn't change the fact that BG3 is packed with CC tools and only a moron and shitposter (that's you) would argue otherwise.
>>559609702It's not porn, it's art.
>>559610059you have never played bg3 or divinity
>>559610059can you add some of the words you usually spam I really don't want to read your schizo rants
>>559604156this but gale & wyll
Anyone play the Trials of Tav mod? I'm doing Hell difficulty + honor mode. It's fun but I have to keep spending my points on camp supplies
>>559610074This.
>>559604426Thanks for the reply, I was dealing with a similar dilemma in the previous thread (>>559428605) and your post helped me confirm I made the right decision. Seeing confirmation that he asks for player input even if the Grand Duke is not there was also very useful. Overall I strongly suspect that Wyll's big decisions regarding his pact was originally supposed to determine his father's fate as well. In other words his eternal service saves his father's life or regaining his freedom takes it. Larian probably chickened out and added this "late rescue" opportunity, and while the game is equipped to handle it in a technically bug-free way doing Ansur before the Iron Throne is clearly not the intended order. This must be behind the kind of oddities that you experienced yourself at >>559542042.
it begins
>>559611041Yeah I played it a good bit and I do enjoy it but the rng can be a bit much. One time I was just getting started and had done like 4 combats and was going well but then the game just put me against 4 level 8 wizards that all Blighted each of my 4 party members on the first turn, overkilling them by 40+ damage each. The author claims he reigned that sort of thing in though lol
>>559613013Why are you a ginger. I approve of duergar
>>559613013What is it about beauty that scares you so much?
>>559596654Barb puts you at risk of getting hit though, even if it can mitigate the damage.>>559601591I hadn't considered that, off the top of your head are there any other DPS check type fights? Honestly with Myrkul I must just use Bone Chill, can't heal if you are afflicted with that.
>>559614094>how dare you not play as an ugly lesbian like shadowheartfag?
Maybe the parasite should filter the term "beauty." After all, it can only offer ugliness.
monk or barbarian for a fist only playthrough?
>>559615691THIS
>>559614251You can't rely on Bone Chill because, as I've said, the Apostle of Myrkul is essentially a DPR check for solo challenges, and that would be wasting your action economy. Doom Hammer essentially has a 100% chance to apply Bone Chilled (see https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Doom_Hammer#Notes) and would be much more efficient, though that obviously limits you to being a martial. A Hasted Paladin would probably do fine here, especially if you have Aylin to help, but I'm unsure about other options.
>>559612594Yeah, seems to me like the "intended" order was see the coronation > Wyll gets offered the deal > Wyll takes the deal > free Ravengard > go for Ansur.I'm feeling Florrick got added to the equation as a way to reach Ansur first. Also Ravengard gets over Ansur being dead hilariously fast.>Wyll, now that I've finally regained my trust in you, I have to tell you. There is a secret that has been passed down through generations of Baldur's Gate grand dukes, and it is of the utmost importance. It is our secret weapon for times of direst need. Beneath Wyrm's Crossing lies the great dragon Ansur, waiting for the day he will be needed. Go, and awaken him.>We went there, he's dead. But don't worry, we've still got this.>Oh, ok son. Yeah, you've probably got this.
Replace Wyll with Florrick
>>559615902Monk, hands down. That's the class' specialty.>>559615691It's not just that. Imagine a new poster coming into this general and immediately being bombarded with such nonsense. This isn't the entertaining kind of autism.
>>559615902Obviously Open Hand Monk.
Replace Wyll with Mizora
>>559616270That works, and I could run a martial for the oubliette specifically, but couldn't I also run a hasted abjuration tank and dedicate one action to Bone Chill if I really wanted to make it work? And spend my second action using nuke spells. It's less efficient but depending on the damage output I feel like it may at least have a chance.
>>559616514When we abandon all personal standards and the only characters that are still posted are ugly midgets or dragonfreaks, will you still cry that I was too harsh on the elusive new poster?
Replace Wyll with:AlfiraZevlorNettieFlorrickNereMizoraKorillaBarcusHeliaWelcome to my youtube video
>>559613013cute frog
>>559617828we have a dedicated fr*g freakthere is nothing anyone could post that could uglier more disgusting or more abhorrent than l*e'zel
>>559617964let him cook
>Heliawho?
>>559618036
>>559618036Here's your (You), kid. Don't spend it all in one place.
>>559618227the cut gnome/halfling werewolf bard origin companion>https://youtu.be/2xdzStZC5BA?si=Z20UNqw8Bbe6Sarrrip
>fr*g freak immediately shits his pants when you call his bestiality fetish outlike clockworkquo erad demonstratum
>>559618227The cut halfling companion/origin
>>559618525>>559618464>we almost got a werewolf>I can't play as a werewolfIt's not fair bros....
>>559618639at least we got.....wyll & halsin
>>559618815Wyll would have been completely redeemed if they had kept in him dying during his opening cutscene but make it a low chance of happening.>some people post about Wyll falling flat on his face and how funny it wasAlthough they might need to change his skin colour to make that work, no doubt social media would be up in arms if a black character were to be treated that way.
>>559619173
>come to frog thread>wtf there's frogs
>>559618639Someone would have modded it
>>559619301A joke character would have suited a DnD game. Wyll is already pretty bland, he would have made a great one.
swen should add a spiritual successor to helia, seeing a werewolf killing evil cultists during the summer game fest gameplay reveal would be hype
this is not a fr*g threadthis is a bg3 threadkeep your sick fetish out of the thread thanks
>>559619782A female midget werewolf companion for Divnity
>>559619782>>559619991Off-topic garbage. Talk about Baldur's Gate, not Swen or Larian's Next Game, you insufferable parasite.
>>559619782Out of curiosity: was BG3's Early Access a outlier or is Early Access into full title normally how Larian makes their games?
>>559620059mulitplayer run with my friend. DO you like us?
>>559620101they've been doing it for over a decade now, it started with DOS1 and they intend on keeping it that way with divinity especially with how successful bg3's early access was, they love the back and forth between the devs & the fans fun fact: bg3's early access literally broke steam>>559620059divinity bg3 dos2 divinity bg3 dos2
swen IS larian studios, you can't have larian games without swen, he's the miyazaki or kojima of larian, he's the director, creative director, gameplay director nothing gets added without his approval and he thinks that he's the person with the most hours on bg3 in the entire world, if you like bg3 it's because you like swen's vision of rpgs
>>559618036>a dedicated freakWe are legion.
>>559620414No, but maybe >>559616514 will. That anon would rather prioritize a laissez-faire attitude that allows anything and everything - including the parasite's malicious off-topic garbage. To speak up against shitposting and ugliness is to disrupt the good vibes. Won't somebody think of the new poster?
>>559621467Were you born an asshole, or is that just a skill you’ve cultivated?
>you know what was missing from bg3?>dragonborn sex!this is why swen is the best game director in the business he knows what his fans want
we need lizard halsin
>>559616416>I'm feeling Florrick got added to the equation as a way to reach Ansur first. Florrick and her street confrontation scene was clearly the backup plan for players who set Wyll free and "killed" his dad. Otherwise they'd have never known Wyrmway exists, meanwhile here both the peaceful and the violent solution leads to the player acquiring the book. The issue is that Florrick's prison break is time sensitive and the street scene can be triggered just by walking in the city. With the Grand Duke it's the opposite: the location is secret and you're incentivized to postpone the action (as it pisses Gortash off). This two factor creates a situation where everything is upside down compared to how it suppose to be on paper.
>>559622860this but female halsin
>>559623230Somehow, that sounds even worse.
>>559623793>female bear sexOh, it's SO much worse.
Best Girl
Damn Minsc, you're the wisest person I know.
>Because she's always losingHas Shar ever won anything?
>>559624974she wins every time someone suffers a lossshes still a major deity after all is said and done
Lucian>Shar
Sebille>Shadowheart
>>559625485>take your MC and turn him into a cuntThis is bad game design. Though I shouldn't be surprised, look what they did to Viconia and Sarevok. Larian loves taking the cinematic route even if it ruins previous characterisation.
not gonna lie a dos2 with bg3's cinematics and a few quality of life changes would be the game of the multiverse>>559625717yeah you just know tons of senior writers at larian are massive edgelords
I haven't played the old games, what's wrong with Sarevok in bg3?
>>559625889>i wanna dethrone Bhaal>nvm i just want to hold open the door for his next chosen
Which studio will wotc give BG4 to?
>>559625889>edgy half brother of the bg1/2 MC trying to become the new god of murder>gets revived in bg2 and you can kinda make him less evil>somewhat revives AGAIN in bg3 and is now bhaal's bitch, he also fucked his own daughter for some reason(??????)
>>559625889iirc sarevok was redeemed in a bg2 expac (i think he even died?) but in bg3 he's back and once again bhaals lapdopidk i only watched lore summary youtube videos
>>559625889character development reversed
>>559626002>>559626063>>559626093What the fuck is wrong with Larian? Do they hate their own fans or what? Why do they have to ruin old characters instead of just creating new ones?
>>559625636they're both peak>>559626154nobody knows if it was a larian or wotc idea
>>559626063>he also fucked his own daughter for some reasonOkay but this part is based and redpilled, Larian did nothing wrong here
>>559626214The D:OS2 intimacy scene was cringe and in my lone wolf run I'm going to be skipping it. I'm glad Larian improved on the concept in BG3. It's still not perfect imo (not a single sex scene in BG3 is good) but it's so much better than text based ERPing.Although considering the drow foursome/group sex debacle, maybe Larian hasn't changed THAT much.
>>559626615>not a single sex scene in BG3 is good100%, the minthara one is the best choreographed and it still looks janky as fuck
>BG3 had better sex/romance scenes than DOS2Absolute cringe take and wrong
>>559626154Either WotC badly wanted to see characters from previous BG games in BG3 and Larian couldn't do them justice (because Act 3) or Larian had the brilliant idea of wanting to add those characters but ran out of time to do them justice (because Act 3).Either way, i am pissed that Larian doesn't want do to an enhanced edition to polish up Act 3 and is left in this rather odd state.
>>559626214its wotc idea. they ruined all the old bg characters
Why didn't Larian just outsource the sex scenes to SDSMS/Drills3D? He would have done better animated sex scenes
I think that one of the reasons dos2 got more chuckles out of me than bg3 is because it's way harder to make dialogues like pic related work when you have to include cinematics and can't make your MC talk>>559626798>vampire imoen>hobo sarevok>irenicus is still alive and doing weird wizard shit..............
>>559626738Sex, absolutely BG3 is an improvement. Romance, debatable. There's not much of a romance in D:OS2 and BG3 does a better job of making it feel like your companion is actually romantically attracted to you. But you could argue BG3 is more ham-fisted compared to D:OS2. I think it's a preference thing in that department.>>559626880Imagine if SFM porn artists made the sex scenes for BG3. God that would've been so hot.
>>559625889Sarevok went from being an ambitious warlord seeking to usurp Bhaal to Bhaal’s bitch and The Dark Urge’s most ardent dicksucker.
>>559627061You best believe they will ruin the bg3 cast next
>>559627353oh 100% can't wait to see how the bg3 hbo show will deal with shadowheart & astarion's character paths
>>559627467I think I’ll just bury my head in the sand and do everything possible to be ignorant of it.
>>559627219He just got buck broken by dying and being resurrected, the tribunal duty is Bhaal's punishment. It's even worse for Amelyssan who Sarevok trolls about sex with Bhaal.
swen dropped bg4 because wotc refused to make ascended astarion canon
Sword BardHand Crossbow Sharpshooter Thief
>>559604607sleep and command are level 1 spells that every cleric and most wizards have>>559607934bard has all of those and more. swords bard is the strongest class>>559595973>good class for maximum survivabilitybear barbarian and it isn't even close.
>>559625889BG2 players who redeemed him are butthurt that Larian didn't go with that version of Sarevok, BG2 players who didn't are butthurt that after dying and losing his spark of divinity and dropping out of the bhaalspawn race as he explains, he instead decided to just try to become the father/grandfather to the new chosen.
Why didn't Vlaakith wish you dead during her second encounter with the party when you disrespect her?
>>559629770No planecaster, even her astral projection is much cruder because of that.
>>559629947Why would the Wish spell require that?
Birds and the bees as they say.
>>559630687always knew that human face was chud coded
>>559630317Because trying to cast targeting shit in another dimension and light years away without help is not something wizards can really do.
>>559631130Does Wish really need to target something? I thought it could do stuff without targeting?
>>559628042Kek
So why did Larian remove (optional) Deity selection for Paladins when they literally have exclusive dialogue in the game that is enabled if you multiclass into Cleric? Also why isn't optional Deity selection available to all characters? Why lock it to only Clerics?
froge
>reforms the Bhaal cult>fucks his daughter>offers the incest baby as a sacrifice to Bhaal>incest baby pulls an uno reverse card and murders mama>incest baby grows up to be one of the cult’s most skilled assassins>despises his granddaughter because she likes finger painting in blood or something >instead gargles the lizard balls of Bhaal’s freak mitosis childWhat the FUCK was Sarevok’s problem?
>>559635042He really liked Helena and secretly didn't forgive Orin for killing her. Possibly the fact that Bhaal commanded him to protect Orin after that deed is probably the only reason he kept her around.
>>559634849cute froge
>>559631321It doesn't targed if you wish for an effect that doesn't require a target, but killing someone requires targeting.
>>559635042Would it have been better if Amelyssan was Dark Urge's mother?
>>559632801wotc doesn't like paladins being tied to gods, don't ask
>>559627467shart will be on her selunite route. astarion will probably be a spawn if he, karlach and shart are supposed to be a party 10 years after bg3
>>559636076Shart is a dark justiciar in her MTG set though.
>>559636028It's literally in the game tho and adding to all classes would solve that plus there are literal paladins in the game that are sworn to gods.
>>559636913>It's literally in the game thothat's larian throwing fans a bone, in the Player handbook paladins get their strength from their oath that's it
>>559637017>Whether sworn before a god's altar and the witness of a priestWhy do you think wotc hates Paladins being religious? It's literally stated in their description that they can be religious knights.
>>559637287You know why.
>>559637287>Paladins are not powered directly by their god, but by their oath. A paladin may address their god while making the Sacred Oaththey overlap on clerics too much if they worship gods too, please ignore the fact that fighters, rangers and barbarians could be a single class thematically
>>559636298she'll probably end up with multiple mtg sets. the theme of her most current one is called "devotion" or something. that has nothing to do with wotc canon
>>559637956How is this relevant though? Nothing suggests you can't have a god and an oath or that the oath could be dedicated to a god. You're claiming that wotc doesn't like having paladins tied to gods when there are multiple characters in the game that are paladins devoted to gods and larian literally made player dialogue for them. Aylin is literally a paladin of selune.Do you really think wotc forced Larian to remove the optional deity selection for Paladins in bg3? This sounds unlikely.
>>559535469>started game>took long creating custom character>start exploring>have stuff to do IRL>try to play again like 1 month or so after>forgot what I was doing ingame or what I did before>start another game>repeatWish I had a better memory...Any way to deal with this?Also, what has been the build you had more fun with and why?
>>559639083>Do you really think wotc forced Larian to remove the optional deity selection for Paladins in bg3? This sounds unlikelythey were tasked to add all the phb races & classes, I can definitely see wotc asking larian to not let paladins pick a god to worship
>>559639378I use Steam's notepad to create logs for my character. I write down their main characteristics and values and a very simple backstory so I can keep my character straight. If you're up for it, you could write a simple log every time you play. I once played through Dragon Age making in-character diary entries after each quest. It was my character writing down what he went through during that session every time we made camp. It's a fun and super immersive way of playing although it takes a lot of effort to keep it up
>>559639378>Also, what has been the build you had more fun with and why?paladin 6/ warlock 6 multiclass for better smites, eldrich blast for ranged damage and utilityhonorable mention to light cleric with radiating orb to be unkillable and swashbuckler rogue for the bonus action vicious mockery
>>559639982Huh. That’s an interesting idea. I might have to try that.
>>559639982>Steam's notepadI didn't know that was a thing, I'm going to check that, thank you.>>559640152>radiating orbI'm not sure what that is but I'm going to check it too
Some of these mod classes are cool but man do they have a problem giving you a billion different abilities. Not even level 5 yet.
>>559642528I can't imagine most are balanced
What are some good non-cosmetic and that doesn't rebalance/add new items/spells/abilities. Basically QoL stuff
>>559642056>I'm not sure what that is but I'm going to check it tooyou're less likely to get hit if you hit them with radiant(holy) damage
>accidentally adding a 4 after searching bg3I bet this happens a lot
Why the fuck is this not more popular? How do people not get annoyed at having to recast this on lae'zel after every rest?
>>559643035The subclasses in that mod (Mindweaver) are actually pretty balanced. But the author does frontload a bunch of spells and cantrips so it feels a bit overwhelming.
years later and I still can't believe how ugly laezel is. legitimately looks worse than withers, a literal corpse and a man
Won't even reply to such a objectively wrong post.
>>559621719What ranks higher on the asshole scale - urging posters to stay on topic, or shitting up the thread by talking about another game? It only took two posts after Shar was mentioned (>>559624974) for the parasite and its enablers to start derailing the thread AGAIN. It is allergic to discussion about the game. Off-topic discussion about Larian's Other Game or Larian's Next Game is more than fine, however. This is where a permissive attitude leads us. Hypocrisy.>>559632801>Also why isn't optional Deity selection available to all characters?Concerns about class identity aside, that could allow pairings that are confusing, if not outright nonsensical. Consider the contradictory concepts of a Barbarian of Oghma or an Assassin of Ilmater. Enforcing such restrictions falls under the necessary limitations of a video game. Fortunately, a Cleric dip is efficient. The player doesn't even need to sacrifice much if they burn a level to be a cleric of Selûne romancing Shadowheart.
>>559650408>Concerns about class identity aside, that could allow pairings that are confusingPathfinder Wrath of the Righteous handled it elegantly
>>559650602WotR is also constrained by an alignment system that D&D left behind more than a decade ago. When considering the things that BG3 could have done better, I wouldn't look at a game that still operates under the logic that Paladins can only be Lawful Good.
more like wrath of the snore
>>559648630>>559650272cute frogs
>>559600172Cute couple.
>>559650408>Barbarian of OghmaBardbarian.
>>559650408>Assassin of IllmaterFaerunian Dr. Kevorkian
>>559650408Dragonborn Tav impregnating Minthara
Why do female lizards have tits
Lae'zel is love.Lae'zel is life.Lae'zel a miracle of the universe.Lae'zel might've done some things wrong, but she's still a beautiful person inside and out.
>>559653912because they want female lizards to be sexy
>>559654164Why would anyone find lizards attractive?
>>559655181Ask Swen and Todd Howard that
>>559621719He was born disabled, yes
ngl the threads are way slower when we don't put the divinity trailer & the bg3 show in the op just saying
>>559666126look at that cute frog
>no posts in almost two hoursIt's so over
>>559669575Bruh, I gotta fucking sleep sometime.
Least bad time to give in to the dark urge for the inspiration?
LMAOO
>>559672302Looking at Remira when she's bandaging, that doesn't result in anyone getting killed.
>>559624849Every time he speaks you listen, that's for sure!>>559670380This but unironically. Just like we have a period where European and (most of the) American posting hours overlap there's also another where their sleeping hours do the same. The slowdown is inevitable there, but as long as a post or two keep us afloat there it's all good.>>5596393781 month can be significant in this sense. Probably the only reason I had no issues after my month-long sabbatical during the holidays is that I'm in Act 3 already. Such breaks can easily kill your run in the novelty phase where you have no well-established knowledge or memories to return to. Either way the Notepad method works as a general to-do list as well. Just writing down one-liners about basically anything game-related can be very useful, but in your case planning ahead part can be especially fruitful. If you just record your plans (which locations to visit / what companions to bring / which quests to advance etc.) at the end of each session that could serve as a solid foundation for your next one. Looking up builds for your MC and each companions (preferably with item slot recommendations for separate acts) can also be a great help in your situation.
Sex with Mizor...>Wyll disapproves
My first (and only) playthrough is done.What a great game.Credits were also very nice. Corpos would never do it like that.Was there a lot of cut content from Act 3?It felt a bit weird on few occassions.
>>559676306The hag encounter was supposed to be another hag from Ethel's coven
>>559676306>Was there a lot of cut content from Act 3?around 20 to 30%
Decided im killing Karlach this playthrough im tired of her cringe drama and contemporary teenage persona, am i gonna miss any important items because of that? Also already chewed Gale hand i dont hate him as a companion but he talks way too much and its annoying.
>>559628953I feel like a better strategy than mitigating damage is to not get hit. It's been a while since I've played Barb, how high can their AC get? Most of their bonuses come from being unarmoured right?
>>559677902Unique interactions? For sure. Items? I can't think of any. This was meant to be Karlach's own armor set but Dammon making it to Act 3 is the only requirement for it's acquisition. And practically nobody uses Soul Coins to fuel her anyways.>>559678631Not him but going unarmored doesn't worth it for Barbs imho. It takes me 3 clicks to raise my throwing Karlach's AC to 25 and she's rocking pic rel as chest piece. Unarmored Defence comes with too many restrictions to be able to close the gap.
>elderly and balding but it somehow suits him>iron-willed and consistent (34 years!)>the epitome of senior /fit/izen >stays /fa/ even during his daily walk>proudly shows out his still pitch black chest hair>loyal wife with nice tiddies who's still in great shapeSome man just have it all.
>>559678631>I feel like a better strategy than mitigating damage is to not get hit.you can always run the numbers if you want more than just feeling. an extra, say, four AC is a 25% hit chance difference, would you rather be hit for 4 damage 5 times or for 8 damage 4 times. >unarmoredthis feature is rarely used. it's just a way to calculate AC and AC isn't very good to pump on your tank in the first place because the bot targets the lowest AC.
>>559639378Press J to bring up your journal and read through what you've done so far and what you're currently trying to do, you fucking retard.>BuildsBlue Dragon Sorc specced into Lightning Charge gear. Barbarian Berserker is also a lot of fun because of the improvised attack and frenzied strike, I also enjoyed my arcane archer/COS bard. Dolor Amalus is actually fantastic for critfag builds because it applies the bonus damage even to offhand or ranged weapons.
Let's talk about creampie:ing Shadowheart
>>559679513>>559683604Ah, so you pick someone with heavy proficiency and just stack AC so that even if you do get hit, you take less damage? I guess that does make sense. That kind of setup probably would last me until the abjuration build is fully online.>targets lowest ACI'm considering a solo run, there is no other AC.
>>559672561Is this a mod/meme? I don't remember it.
>Your feelings for her are not real
>Anon has fallen in love with a fictional character
Frogs
>eyeing a pricey armor piece from a non-buddy trader >it costs 4060 even with 11 Persuasion>rummage through my "Once Per Long Rest" backpack>find Spaw's Amulet and realize it temporarily grants +2 Persuasion >end up buying the armor for 3480 GoldThe Sovereign's blessing persists even in the big city. I remember the 10 turn duration made me neglect the item and somehow never picked it up again. Until now!>>559686684Nope, as Heavy Armor impedes Rage. Medium is the highest you can go. The truth is that stacking AC is useful but certain low-level defensive spells (mostly Shield and Mirror Image) do much more to your survival. Same goes for concealment (Blur / Displaced) as well. E.g. this is why Elder Knights can be as resilient as a cockroach. Most solo builds are centered around Invisibly in some way or form as that bypasses the Achilles heel of such runs: that you're the only one enemies can target and they almost always outnumber you.
Wouldn't it be funny if after spending years telling people that making bg3 dlc and expansions would be boring larian ends up making huge expansion for divinity , at least two dnd related projects got cancelled by larian after all
>>559687603me me meeee!!
Justice for wyll
>>559613361Right now the biggest problem I'm having is enemies not being cleared when my team gets teleported into act 3 areas. Like I had to fight 3+ steel titan watchers on top of the regular waves when I was put in Wyrm's crossing. A bug, I guess. My team is still pretty low level too
>>559689983Peek-a-boo with Wyll!
>*bores you to deathHeh, nothing personal kid
>>559691874Wyll is cool and badass. Fuck you.
>wyll's writer's mom is in this threadhi mom
They keep slaves here? Not for much longer, if THE BLADE has a say.
>>559692810Karlach disapproves
>>559692810dies from cringe
if you don't behead karlach, what does wyll do when he gets to baldur's gate? he's some sort of, hellspawn now and is a devil's plaything.
>>559693153He does nothing major, he just waits for Mizora to come to him
>type up a massive blogpost about recent relationship drama>delete it >pull up Wyll.beat>pull up Wyll.image>click posthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-6iAyHES3c
>>559693416nobody cares about the whole becoming hellspawn thing? what kind of wimpy punishment was that, then.
>>559693660she's for the streets bitch
>>559693153What do you mean? He's "a devil's plaything" either way. The horn is just a visible punishment for disobeying Mizora.>>559693673>nobody cares about the whole becoming hellspawn thing?I wouldn't say "nobody" but his appearance certainly didn't cause mass hysteria.
>>559693673Like 2 characters comment on it, such as his dad, but other than that, no. Maybe its different if you are playing as him but why would I do that.
>>559693920>only mention of his horns is a girlboss foot soldier>>559694027that's a little disappointing. with how famous he is, it would have been interesting to see the character development when the good people of baldur's gate reject him once they see who he really is.why didn't will get more content? they could have cut minthara
>>559693673I mean, people who knew him get scared and/or disappointed when they see him even more hellish, but people who didn't know him probably just assume he's a tiefling.
>>559694159>famous he isIts him larping. >why didn't will get more content?Wyll was hastily rewritten, I assume they ran out of time for most of his content. >they could have cut mintharaI WISH
>you are in charge of bg3 definitive editiondo you cut shadowheart or frog? to make room for more wyll
>>559695080make 30 minutes long mizora, orin, isobel, jaheira & aylin sex scenes in act 1, 2 & 3 and the epilogue
>>559695080>remove character customization>you are now forced to play Karlach>remove all companions>you can now only play with Karlach>Wyll exists but he is beheaded in Act 1>the game is now a romance between twins demon girls
>>559689683Happy foid day to you!
>>559696198needs haslin
hire bluepoint to remaster bg3
>>559696795gross>>559696925even more gross
Death to Minthara, the whore of /bgg/
top 5 things we like about wyll:1. he can leave the party in act 12. he can die in act 1 & 23. you can cuck him with mizora in act 34. you can kill his dad5. he gave all his screentime to emperor in the ansur dungeon
is the "what if wyll was a girl :3" mod any good
>Wyll with a Y. Why?
>>559697609>3. you can cuck him with mizora in act 3What does he say about this. He should break up with you imo
>>559698315
>>559672561>reallysharter detected
>>559698424>oh no how could you boohoohoostandard wyll nonsense
>this young frog alien has more understanding of the bhaalspawn than anyone else in the partyastral knowledge goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>559696639thankies
Happy International Women's Day to the many beautiful ladies of Baldur's Gate.
>>559678631>I feel like a better strategy than mitigating damage is to not get hit.This is correct. This is much easier on a ranged build, but there are players out there who have done it on a melee build, so it must be possible, although it leaves much less room for error. When avoidance is the name of the game, reducing variance as much as possible is logical. It is technically possible to stack AC so high that only critical hits go through - and these are entirely negated by adamantine. An Abjuration build follows the same principle - negation rather than mitigation.>>559688197>The truth is that stacking AC is useful but certain low-level defensive spells (mostly Shield and Mirror Image) do much more to your survival.This is a contradiction. Shield and Mirror Image would still be about stacking AC. At 27 AC, you become untouchable to most enemies in Act 1. A Light Cleric dip can even add Shield of Faith and impose Disadvantage on one attack each turn. Trying to outlast damage with Rage is already approaching the problem from the wrong angle, because you implicitly accept being hit - a poor plan when you have three fewer bodies to soak damage. I disagree with Barbarian being suitable here, with the exception of a ranged Berserker. Of course, AC is just one layer of a well-rounded build. AC doesn't protect you from area damage, guaranteed spell damage, save-or-suck spells like Hold Person, or simply being shoved to your death. But it gets a lot of mileage in Act 1 - the most dangerous act relative to character level - and is as easy to stack as having a spell slot available for Shield.
>>559698691I watched the video, his reaction was pretty shit. Karl, Laezel, and Gale's were more heart-wrenching lol!
just realized that wyll's last name is ravengard not ravengarde
>>559698929Name three things you like about them that are non-physical.
>>559698536what spell is she casting
>>559700706get rid of goodberry taste spell
>>559700706If I remember correctly it was either Guidance or Guiding Bolt
Besides the bags mod, are there any mods out there that make the inventory system bearable? I can't understand how this game didn't come pre-packaged with inventory sections. It's such a cluttered mess.
>>559700952All they had to do was to copy paste Owlcat's inventory system, the best inventory system I've used and it's never slightly advanced/complex
Evil woman
>>559701132>Owlcattrolling
Who said you can't influence the opinion of your companions?
>>559701412Are you retarded? Owlcat has an amazing inventory system compared to Larian's. BG3 has one of the worst inventory systems I've ever used, even DOS2 was better
>>559702681Is talking about the game that distasteful to you? Must you derail the topic every time by mentioning how X and Y did it better?
>>559698929Cheers to that.
>>559703016beautiful brown women!
>>559702798I know you're always just baiting with muh off topic posts but this time you're just being plain retarded. How the fuck is comparing another CRPG's inventory system to BG3's even slightly off topic? The topic is about how BG3's inventory could be improved/changed and bringing up an example that Larian could emulate.
>>559702681bg3 and wotr have nearly identical inventory systems.if you had to finger some differences, it would be minor ones. bg3 collects food and ingredients in bags. wotr has more equipment slots. but they're the same system.how on earth are you saying one is amazing and the other is the worst?
>>559703338Are you stupid? Owlcat has a unified inventory while BG3 gives each companion a separate inventory. Owlcat automatically sorts out trash while BG3 clutters your inventory with it. You always have access to your inventory in Owlcat games while you can accidentally leave stuff in companion's bags in BG3 so you have to go back to camp.
>>559703257>The topic is about how BG3's inventory could be improved/changedNo, that was never the topic, except perhaps in your mind. A post that claims that the difficulty in BG3 is piss easy and asks for mods to remedy that is not an invitation to talk about how X did difficulty better. A post that claims the inventory system is shitty and asks for mods to remedy that (>>559700952) is not an invitation to talk about how Y managed inventory better. Either answer the question directly or ignore it, but spare us the derailment routine.
>>559703803This is bait, you don't believe this yourself
>>559694159Blaze Elin is not a foot soldier, she's the commander of Wyrm's Rock and also cool and based.
Why can't you have sex with the cute fangirl in Baldur's Gate that touches herself to you?
>>559704284Who's that?
>>559704469
>>559703905The game is what it is. Shitty, great, mediocre, whatever you think it is. "All they had to do was copy X" is not a conversation starter. It's a thought-terminating bait that can only invite more thought-terminating nonsense in the form of "Yeah, you're right," and "No, you're stupid and wrong." All they had to do was make a better game, devoid of flaws. Why didn't they think of that?
>>559703653sounds like you agree with what i said, so why the contrarian attitude? you can see from your own post that they are nearly identical systems with some minor differences. as you helpfully lined out, although it is functionally identical, it does take different numbers of clicks to do the same thing in one system vs the other. this is exactly my point, it's the same system, with minor differences such as needing to drag over a potion before you drink itif you want to see a different inventory system, you can look at for example xcom. owlcat always has been just discount knockoff larian
I used to think Blaze (that's her first name) was cringe because she takes a bribe to let a group of heavily armed assassins stroll into Wyrm's Rock, and is thus responsible for the assassination of the Archduke for simple greed.But I thought about it more, and in her defense, she only gets you in he door of the fortress. She honestly probably thought that if you actually were troublemakers, you'd be stopped by the dozen Steel Watchers right inside the door. She had no way of knowing that Gortash would ALSO tell them to let you in the ceremony. So you bypassed two layers of security, but she honestly had no reason to believe you would be able to bypass the second one. She probably thought she would collect your gold, and then you'd get turned away by the steel watchers with no repercussions to her or to Gortash. Which is a reasonable assumption on her part. It's still bad to risk it at all by taking bribes to not do your job, but I see her point of view.
>>559704902that haircut did not age well
>>559702681are you still mad about shadowheart? Should larian even bother adding polyamory paths to divinity after bg3?
>>559704902why are you posting porn of a npc
>>559705104>she'll fuck any random dude as part of a threesome>but (You) have to spend 60 in game hours flattering her, going on wine dates, and doing her laundry, before she visits your tenti don't even like shadowheart but i think that girls who are easy but play hard to get like this are shitty
>>559704865>>559704902>>559705460It's been 3 years, get over it
>>559704902Technically, Gortash is not yet archduke at that point. Legally, she doesn't owe him any allegiance. Plausibly, you just wanted an excuse to post a suggestive picture of Blaze Elin.
>>559705552it hasn't been 3 years since i played bg3. i'm playing the game right now.
wtf are these replies, actual schizo hours, time to leave
>Shart cuckposting>Thiosbald is hereYep this is /bgg/
I'll never forget what you took from me, Halsin.
shart & astarion are the most popular companions and they're both polycoincidence? I think not
>>559705739
actually Shaddy is keyholder/cheating coded and I love that about Her
>>559704284>>559704550You did fiddle with the newspaper machine to have an advantageous article being printed about your party, didn't you? I know the girl you're talking about but she said nothing like that to us. Keep in mind that was before the said quest, and since that is known to increase certain NPCs Attitude I guess it might also be possible to replace the dialogue of others.
>>559706242I mean yeah, it's not a coincidence. Larian anticipated Astarion and Shadowheart were going to be the most popular male and female romances, so they figured tacking on a random poly romance in Act 3 wasn't gonna hurt them as much. They were never gonna put a poly romance on a POC character like Wyll. He barely has any fans as it is
>>559706464Yes, for the rest of the day (until you do another long rest) a lot of NPCs will have different unique dialogue with you
>>559706242just you watch, they're going to see the numbers and think all the poly shit they gave them was popular, or at least not a net negative and give us even more of it.
>>559706906swen is already teasing deeper intimacy mechanics, divinity will basically be a porn game
Women want a poly relationship with astarion and halsin.
Has enough time passed to bitch about the off-topic, low-quality shitposting again? Or would that upset the elusive new poster by disrupting the good vibes?
>>559707204>both were sex slaves>halsin never wanted to be the leader of the grove, astarion never expected to be the leader of the underdark spawns>top coded & bottom coded>both fucked tons of people>both very old elves>crazy sexual tensionit's a peak dynamic ngl>>559707368thoughts on halsin & astarion DPing you?
>>559707368Divinity Divinity Divinity Divinity
Divinity will save /bgg/ because the namefag will leave to shit up that general
>>559704902>>559705395>>559705668There should be more suggestive pictures of Elin, Kagha and Dalyria.
>>559707470it will be peak just like bg3, we're so lucky to be larian fans in 2026 bros
>>559707680He will cry about Shart there WATCH
Trying to decide between Lae'zel and Karlach.
>>559707680trvke
>>559708231Complete frog romance is rarer so go with that.
>>559707470>>559707680>>559707781These are the off-topic, low-quality shitposts I was talking about! Start reporting the garbage, lest this general turn into a cesspool!
>>559708231Multiple romance mod
>>559708449>leftme>rightlarian making me the best CRPGs of the last decade including obviously BG3, the WRPG of the 2020-2025s
how do i get three rows of toolbar?seen video of players with three rows but can't find the button for it, stuck with just two and it's getting crowded
Despite not even being in the top 3 of the most romanced companions, Astarion is the second most kissed companion. Women are really spamming that button
>>559708693have you seen the other options? you got>a nerd obsessed with his ex> a virgin(black)>a walking STD
>>559708641Total elf love
>>559708686there's a little "+/-" icon in the ui, click that to chenge the size of ityou may need to unlock it with the lock icon too
>>559708852that's something so smoochable about that nose
>>559708850You forgot the superior choice.
>>559708641>Coal burning Dropped
>>559708990>emperorhe's the ultimate ick
I will never understand fujos
>>559709039>doesn't say a peep about the black lizardnooticing
>>559708641M-Minthara how could you
>>559709227I don't understand shipping gale & astarion, that pairing fucking sucks
>>559709324what?
>>559709145
>>559706690Oh shit, I just tested this and she indeed only talks about how Gortash will protect the city. This is the first time I'm hearing about this "for rest of the day" restriction. I also remember to a screenshot where the crossword Dragonborn complained about how you're responsible for taking away her entertainment. That must've been also her special dialogue after the positive article. Thanks for bringing it to my attention regardless, I'll surely take this into account during my future playthroughs!
I cast Teleport into Adrenaline into Impalement and then finish with Fireball
>>559709587Astarion likes power and becoming a god is even better than becoming the vampire ascendant.
>>559708231is this your first time romancing one of them?Lae'zel is a slow burner, funnily enough since we're talking about Karlach tooshe will ask for casual sex like a random space horny frog but then she will go full tsundere, asking for you to beat her up and then to hold handsKarlach is more direct in the sense she really has touch starvation and wants to go all in with you but you , quite literally, need to "fix her" before doing really anythingand now that I'm reading this out loud both of these romance kinda sound a little fucked up
>>559708231Frog has the better full romance. Keep Karlach to use as mindflayer bait so that Orpheus doesn't have to become a squid and you get the best ending for the Githyanki.
>>5597095872 attractive white men. fujos are like men who watch lesbians
I finished a run without Karlach and Wyll and honestly missed nothing
>>559709920The best githyanki ending is ascending after slaying the betrayer prince!
>>559709734No problem! Yeah you get a decent amount of unique dialogue with a lot of different NPCs if you publish the positive article (presumably there is also unique dialogue if it's negative) but only for that day. They revert back to their normal dialogue after a long rest.
How come all the women wear slutty camp clothes and underwear?
>>559710358sex sells
>>559710358vanilla camp clothes are not "slutty"and you would only know about the underwear if you removed their clothes, so....I guess my question is, what are you doing anon?and the sluttiest clothes is Wyll's crop top, btw
i'm turning everyone in my party into a spellcasterit that viable or am i fucking myself over?i just like spells
>>559710750there's many variants of spellcaster classes and subclasses, what do you have in mind?or are you just going to make 4 wizards that cast fireball all the time
>vanilla camp clothes are not "slutty"
>>559710643>Shart's skintight bodysuit>Karlach and Laezel's bras and exposed stomachs Not BUT Wyll is
>>559709628that guy, the black dark urge from bg3
>vanilla camp clothes are not slutty
>>559710643>vanilla camp clothes are not "slutty"laezel is literally wearing fetish gear
Gale's grandpa fit
>made Minthara's camp top ever so slightly less revealingNever ever fucking forget what Larian took from you
>and now that I'm reading this out loud both of these romance kinda sound a little fucked up These romances are about intimacy and emotional vulnerability. Two things that are beyond a subhuman that jokes about Astarion being sexually abused.
>>559711372And that's a good thing. But yeah that guy is retarded or baiting so we post sexy pics of the companions in their slutty clothes.
>>559711789this is what you're crying about
>>559711972Every slight, every grudge is written down and remembered. Larian and Swen will pay for their transgressions in due time.
>>559711925that is NOT a good thingnormal people arent animal fuckers what the fuck is wrong with you
>>559711184I already pointed out the coal burning tho?
>>559712385millions of people fucked emperor & halsin though
how do i utilize the vampire twink best in combat?i can usually sneak and get the first hit on an encounter but after that how do i use him best?
>>559712385Lae'zel isn't an animal.
>>559712769get hand crossbows, pick the sharpshooter feat and the thief subclass, you'll steamroll through the entire game
>>559712871nice
>>559712769What >>559712871 said but you should first respec him into a sword bard (6 levels before going Rogue Thief) or Ranger 5 (gloomstalker) into Rogue Thief.
Larian other games were gooner so ofc bg3 would be
>>559713331>being a gooner is part of the RPG experience>-Swen Vincke
>>559713331>>559713606The parasite is relentless in posting off-topic garbage.
ack's romance sucks
The VAs will voice and motion capture their own sex scenes in Divinity, trust the plan.
>>559713837her whole story sucks, she's the most origin companion even more rushed than wyll I'll die on that hill, I still love her though
>>559713761Yes I did it on purpose for you :3
Origin Gale is objectively the best main character because then nobody has to become a mindflayer
a larian game but instead of being set in a medieval setting like bg3 & dos2 it's set in a sci fi world insteadThink about it
I would prefer a Steampunk world
>>559713837I think her romance is fine, it's her quest that fucking sucks.Or rather, it's the fact she flat out doesn't have a quest.
>>559711012those are lae'zel's workout clothes they are not slutty
>>559714702You'd let your daughter blow you in those clothes?
>>559715225It's been an hour...
>>559714702Also githyanki undergarments can be strapped to a dragon's saddle so they are very practical.
>Gortash presents himself as a typical strong leader for times of crisis for a crisis he himself has manufactured.Ok, that makes sense.>Gortash lures in people with seemingly profitable propositions that he argues will make them rich and make Baldur's Gate greater.Makes sense.>Then he takes the opportunity to find out what he can take hostage from his workers so that he can eventually abandon all pretenses and just enslave them.Still making sense.>Among other operations, he's got the gondians creating the Steel Watch, his private army of automatons loyal only to him that he presents as necessary law enforcement.Once again, still making sense.>Or hiring Redhammer to build him a submarine and a high security "prison" where he locks up said hostages.All good till now.>Also he's started a whole ass operation to put bombs into children's toys so he can blow up kids....wait, why??What's he winning from that?
I feel like the divinity & bg3 reveal trailer showed that larian love their dark fantasy and want their games to be as dirty & grimy as possible to make the happy & heroic moments feel even more iconic
Which DOS2 character will Larian ruin in Divinity?
>>559716632doesn't GoT have nothing but lots of rape and incest
>>559716780swen is already teasing braccus rex so he's 100% getting revived for the 3rd time in a row>>559716824that'd be like saying that bg3 only has gay sex & bestiality
>>559716505That was to be blamed on Absolute cultists infiltrating the city with the refugees.
>>559716885>braccus rexThere's no way to ruin him though
>>559715479When one type of spam is allowed to remain, it emboldens other spammers. This is why I encourage others to report not only the spam but also off-topic garbage like >>559713886, >>559716632, and >>559716780. No one seems to care, however, so here we are.
>true soul that can convince all tadpoled creatures to do what you want >can't command a single woman to spread her legs for youWhat the fuck is point of being able to mind control women if you can't rape them?
>>559717513you're right nobody cares
>>559717513>things I don't like are spamno
>>559716916Ah, operation Scapegoat.Still kind of weird though, since those toys were going TO the refugees, so he'd mostly blow them up.
>>559655181
you can't call yourself a larian fan if you dislike lizards
>>559716505The operation in the Firework shop was a major explosive producer for all kinds of purposes. Every major location Gortash was involved with (Foundry, Wyrm's Rock, IT) contained some of his unique designs and this shop delivered everywhere. >What's he winning from that?If Arfur dies and you talk to him he reveals it was a Banite plot to justify the Steel Watcher's presence. My impression was that Gortash had little to do with this. Arfur is a known toymaker and probably some mid-level follower had a "dude, what if...!" moment.
>>559720196What's Bane's stance on taking initiative without consulting your superiors? I know that Black Gauntlet Hahns Rives' underling wrote a seething text about him.
>>559716426This. It's almost like a work overall!
>>559701350How is she evil? She did nothing wrong. I wish there was way to side with her
Does Arcane Gate have any actual uses?
>>559722048She's taking orders from midges, so I have to save her.
Kinda tempted to go warlock instead of sorc with 2 bards in the party
wyll is such a failure of a character he almost makes you forget that halsin is even worse
What's a good chaotic party without repeating classes? >wild magic sorcerer>wild magic barbarian>martial wielding the shattered flailWhat should the fourth one be?
>>559724701>wild magic x2idk sounds like your repeating the same gimmick twice
>wild magic Seriously though, who is this for? What type of person would unironically pick that?
>>559725042Random is based
>>559724816i said same class, don't be obtuse.
OMG SHE'S DEAD!
Wrote to Larian again asking them to change Shaddy's hard-wired desire for Halsin.
>>559726362
>>559725042The basic answer is anyone who wants a lolrandum experience. You can metagame it though and space people out enough to benefit more often than face serious drawbacks.Considering honor mode is a knowledge check, it can be nice to throw a wrench into the works though and let yourself be put in bad situations.
I couldn't believe when I got to the part where it shows how badly S wants H, and how they're both almost definitely lying to cover up an ongoing affair.I have never felt more cucked in a game, it was incredible.
>>559725342and im saying not doubling on classes is stupid because youve already shown youre willing to use the same gimmick twice
>>559727973She said the name!
>>559727973Why are Sharrans such dorks?
>>559727973character assassination
>>559728258I think it's kind of cute
As a WotR chad, it's hilarious to come here and see babbies gate 3 players talk about their "builds" and shit.It really is adorable.
>>559728315why would she not judge shart?
>>559727973I literally stood out of my chair and shouted "KINO!" at this scene. From the same award winning author that brought you "You can't cast a shadow without some light.", a romance that has your love interest openly lust over another companion, and everyone's favorite and much loved companion from DOS2: Beast. Can't wait to see what quality writing John delivers in Divinty!
BG4 will make Dark Justiciar Shadowheart canon btw
>>559728910True, which is why "you can't cast a shadow"-line never canonically happens.
>>559727973I kinda want to kiss her nose.
>>559729293based
>>559729293>>559729657How's the wifi in the bunker?
>>559730185redpill me on the bunker?
>>559730297>turned on by nosesClearly jewish coded posts
>>559729293It’s cute.
>cuckposting>blackpostingI should have stayed in bed.
>>559730509it's a proud prominent nose, not a hebrew schnozz, I like it
Are there any mods out there that make Shaddy lean even more into cucking you with Halsin? Some "goodberry cleanup" even, if I'm being hopeful?
Bros?This Raphael battle theme fucking slaps?
>Presumably Mizora was not always a sensuous and manipulative benefactor of troubled souls like Wyll. Negotiating the hierarchies of hell result in changes of form - but was she ever less beautiful, less erudite, less willful?>was she ever less beautifulWell?
>>559734347She's a cambion so she was born pretty.
>only 2 hand crossbows with a +2 in the gameWhy is Larian so racist?
>>559733823Nevermind, he's a total chump.Still a sick theme song though. Though the game switched into the generic combat music, apparently it also recognizes I was treating him like any other low xp gobbo.I had to reload once because the description on Hope's divine intervention didn't fucking mention it'd also take all her health off. I think I'm merited on savescumming that one
>>559736283>all those cheat mods>still needs to reload the fight
>>559736283Oh my GOD now I really am doing a Monk playthrough next. I was hesitating between that and Warlock.>>559736510>cheat modsIt's just the romance mod, a transmog mod and one mod to alter appearance because I decided to change body type mid playthrough. Literally all just aesthetics, none of them are giving me the slightest bit of combat advantage.
ink'd
>>559736794is that a lifesize gardevoir plush
>>559736924yeah
Btw where do outsiders go when you kill them? Do they just go one level deeper/higher into their respective planes or what?
>>559736794cute frog
>>559728530>p*thfinderno one cares
>>559737491trvke
>>559728530But did you remember your Monk dip, your Paladin dip, and taking every Crane feat and Archmage armor while wearing pajamas while making sure none of your 20 buffs you have to cast one by one before each fight overlap?
>>559738827The dip is just as big of a problem in BG3 as Pathfinder, with 3 Rogue for Thief and 2 Fighter for action surge.>taking every Crane feat and Archmage armor while wearing pajamasOwlcat actually added armour feats so it's viable to use armour now.
>>559727661It made it really easy to justify going full sicko mode as durge
>>559739118>just as big of a problem in BG3 as PathfinderIt really isn't. Not that 3 Thief or 2 Fighter are not dips that are taken often for some builds, but they're not taken nearly as often as the dips in WotR. Nor does the game get borderline impossible in the higher difficulties because you didn't follow the supermeta dips pajama + pets build, in WotR you can't have someone like Seelah even conceive of tanking anything past Core, she's straight up made of butter no matter if you slap heavy armor and a shield on her.
>>559738827I've never played like that, it isn't necessary. Even now that I play on Hard, I don't dip and I choose to do most buffing within combat. My "prebuffing" takes less than 20 seconds and are longer spells that tend to last the whole map.Are people actually defending 12 levels of 5e in 2026? Especially Larian's version of it? Holy shit.
>>559739474>anything past Core>wtf why are harder difficulties harder??
>>559739475>I choose to do most buffing within combat.lollmao even
why do people like Astarian? >admits he uses you for sex>gets mad when you use him for sex
>>559739935i think he's funny
>>559739151Who the fuck was this written for? Did they really think Shadowheart's target audience (straight monogamous males) were going to love this? Was this slipped in under the radar? Utterly baffling all of this. I wasn't around the bg3 community until I played it just a few months ago, did this cause a shitstorm at all, did Larian ever respond to it?
is there a mod that makes characters use underwear instead of full nudity during romance scenes?youtube's rules, not mine.
>>559740082if you're seeing it, you're the target audience
>>559740385surely the ratio between people who have at least a neutral or positive view an any of that, to the people who are completely put off and repelled completely by the character after discovering that is 1:1000 though, I just don't get it.
>>559739474Core is the main difficulty, similar to tactician if not honour (minus ironman mode) in BG3. You absolutely do not even need to think about multiclassing for that difficulty. Just because Pathfinder naturally invites more build autism, doesn't mean you have to actually do that. Your only contention seems to be that Pathfinder players are more autistic and therefore min max their builds more because Pathfinder allows it, as opposed to BG3. >taken nearly as often as the dipsWhat do you even base this off? All builds I've seen on youtube all include dipping for builds that support it.>anything past CoreYou're literally talking about a difficulty named UNFAIR that only exists to placate turbo autists and use that as an argument that Pathfinder forces dipping?
>>559740886no? did you just make that up out of nothing but your feelings?
>>559740935You do realize you're both using a >Everyone in BG3 dips just as much as in WotR and it's just as metaargument at the same time as a>Pathfinder players are more autistic so they dip more because BG3 doesn't support itargument?
>>559740082In fairness, the game was completely broken at launch, especially companion flags and triggers, so people who shouldn't have been seeing most of that were still having it forced on them due to bugs. To my understanding Larian eventually fixed it, but still, lol.And no it wasn't really that controversial because there was just as much>That's my fetish!posting both here and in normie spaces to override the criticism. I still laugh every time I see anons still unironically using the>Schrodingers Cuckoldargument to defend it though.Halsin's writer and Shadowheart's writer to my understanding are the same person, I'm sure this was a pure coincidence and had no bearing whatsoever on any of it.
>>559740082it's called demotivation and conditioning.
Yeah think I'm finally done with this game. WotR sounds pretty good. Smell ya later, losers.
>>559741109yeah i made the numbers up, but is it really a stretch to say the vast majority of people aren't into having their romantic partner gushing about another person to the degree displayed there?
>>559741646not everyone sees that. guys like me, i've never seen that scene.it's meant for people like you to see.
>>559741298>>559740082>Is this loss?
>>559741780I've never seen the scene either, just from images and webms posted here. my point was that once you discover this, whether through doing it yourself or seeing it posted online, the vast majority of people are going to be completely put off by it. Like they could have written it in a more tame and 'neutral' way to make both groups of people happy, but they chose to give a big slap in the face to the much larger group? Just doesn't make sense to me.
All the newfags who missed out on all the broken companion interactions makes me feel so jadedrelease was truly a magical time for this game.
>>559742346my favorite part was that it was all gale's fault. so if you played dark urge and killed him at the start it wouldn't happen in your game unless you cheated on her or went to the brothel together.
>>559742221those scenes show up when you indicate you're into that kind of thing, so nobody seeing it will be put off.there will be a few guys, like you, who read it out of context and misunderstand, but close to 0% of players do that so it's fine.
>>559740082My guess is just it's a "progressive" thing to include in the game. Like they asked themselves what kind of wacky relationship dynamic they could include, and someone raised their hand and said "kids these days like polyamory". Which isn't exactly true, but you might get that impression from the portion of them that do and post it on social media.The less generous assumption comes from the fact that Halsin is the target of her attention, and Halsin is the other party member written by the same author, John. He got his two dollies that he controlled to want to kiss each other. Almost every other companion doesn't want to participate in the orgy, and even the ones who do, do not have a line about how they've actually been daydreaming for an extended period of time about having sex with Halsin. So the only two characters to like it, happened to be the two characters written by the same author? The coincidence is a bit much. So I think it could easily be a case of the author's barely disguised fetish. Recall that Shart explicitly says she's "not the third wheel type" in act two when she starts opening to you about her feelings. Then suddenly she's actually been daydreaming about sex with Halsin. The character directly contradicts herself. Why? Because John wanted to write a traditional romantic romance, but then later in development slipped his fetish in. Idk, can't say for sure, but the sequencing fits.In any case, the average normie has not gotten to that part of the game, so we'll never really know what they think. Literally, by the way, only half of players have left act 1 and only about a third have finished the game, and this scene is tucked away in act 3. So we literally have not gotten enough normies to see it to even give an opinion. I've be interested to see what the average normie thinks of it.
>Schrodinger's Cuckold: If I don't know she fantasizes about cheating on me, it didn't happen.
>>559741226>The dip is just as big of a problem in BG3That was my initial argument which is objectively true. They're just as meta and beneficial. You don't have to multiclass in either but both games allow you to do it for great benefit. >Everyone in BG3 dips just as much as in WotRI never said this. BG3 is a more casual game with more casual players, obviously they're going to dip less. Nobody is arguing that Pathfinder doesn't have more nerdy nerds.In what ways are Fighter 2 and Rogue 3 less of a problem in BG3? That fewer people do it because the game is easier and the fans are normies? Is that what makes it less of a problem? Both games - on normal difficulties - are just as as easy without ever multiclassing.
>>559742734whether you see those scenes or not is irrelevant. People were put off just knowing that that's a canonical part of her character, whether you see any of it in your game or not. The love interest they thought was purely dedicated, and truly in love with them, is actually a complete and utter whore, daydreaming about getting gangbanged while in a relationship with them.
>>559743518>realistic woman moment
>>559742945>Recall that Shart explicitly says she's "not the third wheel type" in act two when she starts opening to you about her feelings.yeah that's one of the wildest parts of it, like if it was established she was polyamorous from the start, no one would care. people could just say "yeah that's not for me" and go for another companion, but they literally just wrote a monogamous character, and slapped on polyamory in the last act of the game? and didn't retroactively work that into her character at all so it's a total surprise?
Divinity will feature a harem romance where the MALE player can marry 2 twin elf sisters that remain fiercely loyal, trust the plan.
>>559743518i don't get why this is so difficult for you to understand.the developers added different content for different kinds of people. if you like dogs she's a dog person, if you like cats she's a cat person. if you desire to be cucked, she cucks you. there is no such thing as a canonical character, it is a set of dialogue and the character is an abstraction you have contrived.
>>559744319>If she admits she thinks about cheating the whole time she's with you but you don't trigger that scene for her to reveal this fact to you, it didn't happen.If your wife sucks my cock but you never know about it, did that happen?
>>559745175you still don't get it.your choices determine her character. think about how girls are in real life
>i told the computer to draw me as the basedjack and it did>why is this happening to meeeeee
What the fuck are you sickos babbling about now?
>>559745614>If the character is written in a specific way, it only counts that she says she's thought about cucking me since the moment I met if I trigger the flag for that scene to happen. Otherwise it is not canon.really now...so you're saying you're not a cuck, even if I'm fucking your wife, JUST because you don't know about it. Interesting!
>>559746161you're hallucinating some really gross things.i've already said it twice, and i'll say it one last time: the character changes depending on what you say. if you are getting options where she is cucking you, it's because you deserve it.
>>559743518For the good of all humanity and yourself, please give a loaded shotgun a blowjob.
>>559746510This is pure copium nigger holy shit
>>559746510>i've alreadybeen wrong twice. I'll point this out to you as often as I have to, but a character's stated de facto thoughts and feelings do not stop existing in the setting just because it happens in a dialogue sequence you don't trigger when those thoughts and feelings are stated to be retroactive.
>>559749929i'm sorry you feel that way. it's just a fact that shadowheart changes based off of what you say.
why did it have to be this way Shaddy
>>559752684dios mios...
>>559752843Who’s this?
>>559753486my tav that i've grown bored of and will likely wipe and start over
>>559754115Ah, that’s a shame.
>>559746510Idk why retarded fags chimp out about this every so often. The virtual dollies do what you tell them to do. You can play as virtual dolly Shadowheart and make her romance Karlach or Lae'zel or whoever. You can make dolly Astarion worship Lathander and he'll have cleric of Lathander dialog options opened up to himThese are not real people
>>559742945get over it you fatty
>>559742945>The character directly contradicts herself. Why? Because John wanted to write a traditional romantic romance, but then later in development slipped his fetish in.Maybe that's true? Just disregard his fetish content for the dolly then. In the end, you're pretending to be in a relationship with a fat guy's keyboard strokes anyway
>>559742945Waifutards think their waifus are real people who should be loyal to their COCK, see Mintharafaggot still seething about it. >>559754341How many times do I have to tell you normies do not obsess over being cucked in a video game, they have real girlfriends or wives. Only you obsess over it because you think video game women are your lovers.>inb4 you delete this because it makes you mad
>>559754341>Idk why people call out bad writing just turn your brain off and ignore it lol
>>559754995>Only you obsess over it because you think video game women are your lovers.I'm agreeing with you?
>>559755069Oops sorry I got my replies mixed up tehee
>>559743280>In what ways are Fighter 2 and Rogue 3 less of a problem in BG3?Many classes in BG3 get a relevant feature at level 11 - Wizards and Clerics unlock 6th-level spells, Fighters get Improved Extra Attack, Hunters get Volley and Whirlwind Attack - making a 3-level or even 2-level dip inefficient. Moreover, optimizing in BG3 beyond one-turning bosses is an exercise in futility, so throwing in an Action Surge for the sake of it is neither justified nor as prevalent as you seem to think it is. Not only are you a tourist shitting up the thread with a worthless claim that 3.5E/PF has more build autism than 5E, but you don't even understand how BG3 is optimized despite a considerably lower level cap. Instead of relying on "builds you've seen on youtube" to base your opinion, maybe you ought to realize that builds in BG3 are often more about itemization than whatever dips you repeat like a monkey because a content creator on youtube told you it was "meta." A pure Eldritch Knight archer abusing Arcane Acuity is certainly a "build," though one that doesn't rely on Thief 3, and for which a 1-level dip would be mostly for flavor.
>>559755236nta, but you're wrong. bg3's highest difficulty is way way easier than wotr's. >Moreover, optimizing in BG3 beyond one-turning bosses is an exercise in futilityi mean, yeah? you're proving his point. bg3 isn't that hard even on honor modeneither game forces meta builds on you on regular difficulties. the highest damage builds in bg3 also involve some multiclassing. if it had an "unfair" mode, it'd probably require them or you'd get stomped
>>559756271Ignore the namefag, legitimately something wrong with his brain. I don't think it's low iq but something fundamentally broken up there. He always manages to have the most retarded takes in such a genuinely baffling way that it looks like a high iq person is purposely trolling by pretending to be retarded. That or he's an alien trying to communicate but failing.
>>559742945Everything in this post is true and reasonable but the mindbroken shartfags piss and shit themselves when someone reminds them john made their waifu get wet over halsin. they're the only ones disagreeing
>>559756864Why are you crying about Jenny on International Women's Day? I thought you respected women.
>>559756271I'm objectively correct that the tourist's claim that "[dipping] is just as big of a problem in BG3" is uninformed and incorrect. A min-maxer is never going to forgo a Fighter's third attack, because no dip is better than attacking three times instead of two. You don't improve your Sorcerer by forcing two levels of Fighter so they can Action Surge. This was never about which game is more difficult or requires more optimization, but you can't read. I also acknowledged in that very post that BG3 is an easy game that doesn't require excessive optimization, but you can't read. ("Moreover, optimizing in BG3 beyond one-turning bosses is an exercise in futility.") You don't earn extra speedrunner points for beating a boss in half a turn instead of a full turn. It's still a one-turn victory in the end. A claim that another comparable CRPG is more difficult than BG3 is defensible (and likely). A claim that dipping is prevalent in BG3 and that everyone slaps a Fighter 2 or Thief 3 dip to "improve" a build is nonsensical. But what can you expect from an individual that would rather search for builds on youtube than think?>>559756715>Every time a post is more than four sentences long, it must be Mintharafag.Your obsession is duly noted.
>>559757614I need you and Mantharafag to kill yourselves
>>559757883Don't forget to repost your unintelligent pasta in the next thread. Surely, this time, the namefag will notice you.
>>559757998I don't want his attention gross. But anyways kill yourself with your favorite poster
How he doubles down on his retardation is incredible, genuinely only possible with a schizo mind. If he isn't the same person as the namefag, highly doubtful, then this general is cursed 2 schizos instead of 1. We can't even filter this fucker.
Recommend me a fun build or roleplay to try.
>Tourist statement: "The dip is just as big of a problem in BG3 as Pathfinder, with 3 Rogue for Thief and 2 Fighter for action surge.">Counterargument: Many classes in BG3 get a relevant feature at level 11 - Wizards and Clerics unlock 6th-level spells, Fighters get Improved Extra Attack, Hunters get Volley and Whirlwind Attack - making a 3-level or even 2-level dip inefficient.Will the tourist address this logically? Or resort to passive-aggressive name-calling because it is embarrassed that it said something blatantly incorrect?>>559758853Consider a Sorcerer with a 2-level Fighter dip. It's far from optimal, but arguably much more human.
>>559758853Dip into every class for the achievement
>>559758853>>559759298This. It's actually quite fun.
>>559713331Random dwarf tav I saw. I wonder if it was based on her
Light Crossbows are better than cantrips until level 5 (except for Warlocks, Eldrich Blast is better at level 2)
>>559759232>6th level spellsYou only need one dip in wizard while being a full caster to get level 6 spells at level 11. Granted, they will be ass as they scale off INT, but there are ways around that and it still means you're not really encouraged to actually get level 11 in one class.I think the only class that actually cares about level 11 unconditionally is Fighter? Due to the third attack unlock.
>>559759696how the hell do you function in combat with 1 in every class?
Do you blame Four Elements monk shittiness on Larian or WOTC? Because the former was able to let Open Hand monk be cracked through gear and multiclassing, but the latter created the shitty framework that had to be followed.And don't tell me it's not shit, it's the subclass with the most rework mods.
>>559762057All they had to do was low the ki costs, call it homebrew, and Four Elements would have been serviceable.
>>559761986I bet it's Eldritch Blast spam with Hex. Everything else seems too low level to work.
>>559761986>>559762378That'd probably be the easiest way to do it, but I chose to play as a dedicated caster the whole time. Scrolls became my lifeblood.
>>559762057I blame it on Larian. They buffed other objectively shit subclasses like Beastmaster. All they had to do was lower the ki costs and maybe throw in a free elemental cantrip. You can't sit there and tell me that casting the equivalent to shocking grasp and having it use your "casting" resource was a good idea. Especially when other magic users can do it for free and sorcerer in particular can do it for free and do it stronger.Same thing with Drunken Master too. The subclass's own abilities work against it.
>>559770761Pop that bubble.
>>559727973john cooked so hard
>>559744037sounds peak, swen can't stop winning
Did you get a statue from stoney and boney?
>>559773159>you can even ask them sculpt you nakedthis game is crazy
>>559760743sexo
>>559771206Excuse me sir, I'm afraid you have to discuss this request with the upper management.>>559773159Surprisingly few people got one. You'd think waifufags will be all over this feature but it seems waifufags rarely react Act 3 to begin with.
>>559778082>people like mizora, emperor & gortash more than wyllthis says a lot about our society
>>559778976>emperorBullshit, I don't care how disappointing Wyll might have been, Emperor is a piece of shit and not the entertaining kind, just the "leave me alone already" kind.
>Halsin starts out with 10 Strength.>Minsc starts out 10 Strength.???
>>559781507Halsin's muscles are full of wisdom.
Divinity and bg3
>>559781507I kind of respect that they statted him for gameplay purposes mostly, probably with the benefit of knowing how much people hated the way they handled EA companion statlines being thematic in nature and usually shit
>>559781507I also talked about this (left is Minsc against us, right is with us) but as an Anon pointed out every companion reverts back to their classes' default Ability scores upon joining. That's all there is to it.If knew this when I first started playing I'd have restored everybody's default abilities right after their recruitment. There's always a next time. If you're interested Halsin's starting numbers were 16/11/14/10/17/13.
>>559757614>You don't improve your Sorcerer by forcing two levels of Fighter so they can Action Surge.different multiclasses are optimal in different situations. i don't think you really read or understood that's guy's entire argument. multiclass builds are still meta in bg3, but the difficulty just isn't high enough to require them
>>559759232>Consider a Sorcerer with a 2-level Fighter dip. It's far from optimalConsider a Sorcerer with a 2 level Paladin dip. Extraordinarily optimal
>>559783207Does that function without strength elixirs?
>>559783374Yes
>>559783207>>559783374>>559783457I enjoyed doing Hexblade 1/Paladin 2/Sorc 9Used to it was hard to justify a Warlock dip for Pact of the Blade, but Hexblade gets Bind Weapon and HB Curse at Level 1 which really opened it up for CHA class dips.
laezel is the kind of person who would eat a jar of mayo with a spoon. and it's a clear plastic spoon.
Planning a Deep Gnome Supremacist run. Wulbren is right; its time to kill THE FUCKING GONDIANS.But the good fight against THE FUCKING GONDIANS will need allies. Who should I recruit? Who should I ally?Obviously I'll have to save Barcus even though he's a lil' bitch because he's kin. Plus he won't save THE FUCKING GONDIANS if I kill them first
wulbren is just a nog midget
>>559789595s-scary
Is there any reason to raid the grove?
>>559790895Roleplay. Minthara sex scene is pretty much the only thing you get, you lose a lot of items so mechanically it's pretty much a disadvantage.
>>559790895RP purposesMinthara sex scenethat's about it.
>>559790895The opportunity to claim Bex butt
>>559790895(a) you get to fuck Minthara(b) being good is overrated(c) its a challenge(d) you know what you're doing(e) its the most evil act you can do in a planned evil runPersonally I prefer to sacrifice Karlach to Boooal, then chop off her head and givw it to the fake Tyrrans. Did that on my Lawful Evil run - I may have save the tieflings, but that doesnt make me a good guy
Divinity lore with bg3 cinematics? Why thank you lord Vincke
>>559790895I hate tieflings and druids so it was two birds with one stone for me
>>559791717>Divinity loreliteral garbage
>>559791717>Divinity loreliteral diamonds
>>5597908951. you get rid of the two most annoying characters2. you get access to a cool companion
>>559793420Fax>>559792228Cap
>>559790895Sex. I'm talking about sex. Intercourse. Fade to black with implied coitus. It's always about sex with you "people." Missionary sex with Astarion. On his grave. Altar sex with Minthara. Your obedience will make this more enjoyable for the both of you. Moonlit sex with Shadowheart. Selûne is watching, but you don't care. Sparring sex to establish dominance with Lae'zel. Submissive sex, too. Lower. Taste. Hot and passionate sex with Karlach. Until you see nothing but stars. Sex. Why can't you have sex with Jaheira? That's not fair. I'm sure she's still a cougar, if you know what I mean. And by that, I mean sex. Kagha should have been a companion. So you could have sex with her. The viper must strike... get it? The joke is sex. The punchline is sex. Mizora should have been your patron. So she could reward you with sex. Good pup. Sex. Remember to frequently long rest - not so you can rest your mind and body, but so you can have more sex, of course. Sex with Bex the sex. Awkward sex with Alfira. Sad sex with Inwe. Sex with the harpies, too. Sex, sex, sex! Pity sex with Florrick. She owes you as much for saving her. Do you think Vlaakith is a virgin? Sex with Baretha, Yy'rul, Therezzyn, Isobel, Aylin, Araj, Sloncha, Patty, Dalyria, Elin, and all these characters who exist only for sexual temptation. Forbidden sex with the Mother Superior. I wonder if Shar ever had sex. Lesbian sex. Incestuous sex. Twin sister sex. Shapeshifting sex with Orin - even if she murders you after. Worth it. Sex. Has it been about 2 minutes since you last thought of sex? Are there any mods that enhance sex scenes? Can't wait to turn on photo mode, or sex mode as I like to call it... you know what that means. Sex. Lots of it. Swearing an Oath of Devotion to sex. First tenet: Never miss an opportunity for sex. Oh, but if the writers even suggest that a companion might be interested in sex... then they're sex-obsessed. What can change the nature of a person? The answer must be sex.
I think I'm going to do a playthrough where I only use generic weapons & armor and I'm going to RP as a normal dude. Only make decisions I think a normal person would make, only go where a normal person would go, only do what seems rational. No letting hags fuck me in the eye, no killing scores of tiefs for drow pussy, etc. Just a dude with a sharp blade and a shield trying to get the tadpole out.Maybe even no magic, or at least no magic that doesn't come from a race (githyanki's misty step).
>>559793914sEX with your mother
>>559793949>generic weapons onlyIf a normal dude finds a cool thing that isn't obviously icky like a tadpole he's going to use it.
>>559790895Yeah, it was really fun.Everyone's reaction to you betraying them for spiral ham grip drow pussy is hilarious.
>>559792228lizards>>>>dragonbornsdrows>dos2 elves>>>>>bg3 elvesdos2 humans>dnd humansdnd dwarves>dos2 dwarvesdnd undead>dos2 undead
>>559790895only reason is you are playing evil and want to fuck the ugly drow
>>559793914
>>559794459cute frog
>>559794401Are divinity undead mostly like dnd skeletons and zombies or are there vampires too?
people (still) pretending to like gay'smell are the worst posters here by far
>>559794545as a rule of thumb, if there's a dnd monster that you like, it's probably in the divinity world, they blatantly steal everything that they find cool
>>559793949>Maybe no magic, john gate run!>Posts a picture of a man with the soul of a dragon wielding a one-of-a-kind magical sword given to him by a pagan demon of light, who has joined a mythical order of warriors who dedicated them to destroying creatures of the night and is adorned in armor crafted with the ability of a fellow member and skilled magical blacksmith utilizing techniques learned from studying the remains of a now long lost race of advanced ancientsJej.Battlemaster or Champion would probably be the closest fit, but Champion both sucks and is boring
>>559793914I feel like this post is a personal attack against one specific anon.
>>559794861No, there's no Arabella
>>559794861Its supposed to be all the horny anons here
swen is a gooner and all his writers are also gooners the devs? also gooners
>>559794167Yeah that's more a limitation spawning from wanting to have a reason to use generic armor at least. Some of it really looks good but always gets passed up because the game makes it easier to get rare magical gear.
>>559795075Just because I want to take Shadowheart to the Grymforge specifically to make her sweaty and then spend an entire long rest smelling her armpits doesn't make me a "horny anon"
>>559795089That's why we love them.
>>559795196trvke
>>559794861Based on the archives Godey memes have been around for so long in this general that the impression is unavoidable but it wasn't the intention. I'll probably end up buying Divinity but haven't touched DOS1/2.
Missionary with Astarion
>>559795075Horny non-pedo anons.
>>559795606That's me :3
>>559794861It's a pasta that first appeared in late 2024
>>559795853>>559795853>>559795853
