Where's the Fucking Patch Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/post-207811>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>559505906
Sex with Warden
Sex with Venator
infernus afterburn rework soon
>Occult old timey USA game>Not a single sea creature or tentacles in the rosterNice game locktards
silence wave good against calico? had this fat black nigger trying to hit his guaranteed one shot combo on me all game and it was annoying
ITS FUCKING OUT
>>559545641yeah
>>559545679viscoos
Marvel Rivals is a better game without stupid troons telling how you need to lose 100games in a row to improve. Plus it has attractive characters instead of Baby Inc. stuff.
>>559545679>2026>I am forgotten
drop the patch, Yoshi, the community is ready for electroswing
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/519740319207522795ACTUALLY REAL
holy fuck doorbros
>>559545641Calm down Mina!>>559545803Calm down Paige!
>>559545679>sea creaturePocket
>>559545815oh god
yoshi revert the patch I had a lot of fun waiting for it
>>559545661didnt they just nerf that
>gameinfo corrupteduh ohbye bye mods?
>>559545809>>559545862He's an amorphous blob man with no fishy qualities or tentacles. Do you lockniggers READ?
QUICK READ THE PATCH NOTESWHO IS THE NEW PATCH HITLER FOR ME TO SPAM NOW NOW NOW NOW QUICK
Silver is fucking dead lmfao
Gay sex with men, even the old hobo murder vampire and even the clanker.
I wanna play Paradox because she has a funny little lightbub helmetWhat's her build/general playstyle like?
UHHH ARMLET BROS???
celeste needs more nerfsremove the refund on miss why is that still there
>>559546024He has a fish in his head (in his remodel)also puddle punch is a tentacle with fingers
WTF they gutted lifestrike.
>>559545679We need a hydro-themed character like this. Water element characters tend to be my favorite.
>Haze: Bullet Dance T3 now also fires at an additional targetuh oh
A PATCH
wtf is this lmao
Drifter: Rend T3 changed from "Gain 45% Bullet Lifesteal against affected enemies for 4s" to "Close range attack now silences enemies for 2.3s"lol
weird ass item
>Yamato buffs outweighed by nerfsFucking why lmao
>>559546184>What's her build/general playstyle like?Sniper with 3, put down 2 (wall) then immediately grab someone and ult swap them through your wall to slow and silence them. Wall is also good for protecting you and your team in fights. Communicate your ult swaps with pings or voice
>>559546296hell fuckin nah
>>559546292rem core
>Street Brawl: Removed item slot limithuge
>Street Brawl: Removed item slot limit
- Ivy: Now has -10% Gravity- Ivy: Bullet damage reduced from 4.59+0.12/boon to 4.45+0.06/boon- Ivy: Kudzu Bomb renamed to Entangling Thorns- Ivy: Entangling Thorns Recharge Time reduced from 8s to 5s- Ivy: Entangling Thorns spirit scaling reduced from 0.65 to 0.55- Ivy: Entangling Thorns T2 changed from "+2s Duration" to "+2m Radius and increases spirit scaling by +0.5"- Ivy: Entangling Thorns T3 changed from "+36 DPS and +2m Radius" to "Entangles enemies that remain in it for 2s. Lasts 1.6s"- Ivy: Watcher's Covenant renamed to Kudzu Connection- Ivy: Kudzu Connection Fire Rate spirit scaling reduced from 0.25 to 0.18- Ivy: Kudzu Connection Bullet Lifesteal spirit scaling reduced from 0.19 to 0.15- Ivy: Kudzu Connection T1 changed from "+8% Fire Rate" to "+2m Move Speed bonus"- Ivy: Kudzu Connection T2 changed from "+2m Move Speed Bonus" to "+8% Fire Rate and +8% Bullet Lifesteal"- Ivy: Kudzu Connection T3 changed from "+1 Tether Count" to "Ability is now always active"- Ivy: Stone Form cooldown increased from 37s to 40s- Ivy: Stone Form damage spirit scaling reduced from 1.5 to 0.8- Ivy: Stone Form T1 changed from "-19s cooldown" to "+7% Max Health Heal"- Ivy: Stone Form T2 changed from "+68 Damage and +0.5s Stun" to "-25s Cooldown"- Ivy: Stone Form T3 changed from "+13% Max Health Heal" to "+1s Stun and Increased Spirit Scaling (2.0)"What the fuck
Colossus: Active now grants you an additional +30% Melee Damage
they actually totally reworked like half the character holy shit
>Doorman: Hotel Guest fixed enemies not always landing in the correct spot on return Now I'll bother to learn him
OH FUCK THEY NERFED IVY BIG TIMEI'M FUCKEDOH SHIT
>venator untouchedthank god
I can't believe Venator went untouched
>Silver utterly killedGood job Yoshi, nice to see you guys work hard listening to retarded and coping tournament players
- Drifter: Stalker's Mark T3 changed from "Enables 2 Charges and +2s Duration" to "+2% Bleed and -40% Healing"damn, I really must have been the only drifter who liked charges on stalkers mark. anywho, yea drifter feels monster buffed
>>559546447>Colossus: Active now grants you an additional +30% Melee DamageALL OF YOU FAGGOTS WHO WERE BEGGING FOR ABRAMS NERFS ARE ABOUT TO SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN REALLY DO
>>559546435- Ivy: Air Drop cast time removed. Instead, if you take damage the ability will be unable to be used for 3.5s- Ivy: Air Drop spirit damage scaling reduced from 2.3 to 1.0- Ivy: Air Drop Cooldown reduced from 100s to 65s- Ivy: Air Drop duration increased from 16s to 21s- Ivy: Air Drop base/max speed increased from 11/18m to 10/22m- Ivy: Air Drop bomb radius increased from 14m to 20m- Ivy: Air Drop buff duration reduced from 12s to 8s- Ivy: Air Drop ally cast range increased from 14m to 18m- Ivy: Air Drop now grants you and your ally +20% Outgoing Damage after dropping- Ivy: Air Drop bomb no longer has a fast explode expanding behavior- Ivy: Air Drop bomb no longer causes a knockup- Ivy: Air Drop bomb no longer slows on explode by default- Ivy: Air Drop bomb no longer provides barrier by default- Ivy: Air Drop T1 changed from "-20% Bullet Resist on enemies hit for 8s" to "Grants you and ally 300 Barrier (+1.0 Spirit Scaling)" Lasts 12s.- Ivy: Air Drop T2 changed from "+200 Barrier and +5m Explode Radius" to "Explode applies 50% Slow for 3s"- Ivy: Air Drop T3 now also increases damage scaling by +1.5 and barrier scaling by +1.0
>>559546542>What if we removed everything that made this character unique and just made her another bruiser
https://youtu.be/sMnmQuLzoks
MINA NERFSYOSHI YOU FUCKING NIGGER DIE
this patch is fucking huge
>>559546561They also gave spirit Abrams some massive fucking buffs
So, any undocumented changes to assets/animations?
>>559545874>Kelvin buffsI WON I WON I WON I WON
>Billy's ult now gives you 40% resists instead of 30% after a single upgradeLOL
- Blood Tribute: No longer has healing reductionWe are so back m1gger bros
>>559546542That seems kind of insane, especially the cooldown nerf.
>>559546435>Ivy: Kudzu Bomb renamed to Entangling Thorns>Ivy: Watcher's Covenant renamed to Kudzu ConnectionDeep Lore?
>Mokrell nerfedNice, the only char outside of Graves now is guttered.No wonder MR is winning.
>>559546573WHAT THE FUCK
>ctrl+f "holliday">0 resultsYea they're definitely working on a rework for Holliday.
victorbros how do we feel about the patch
>>559546694Skill cds have the new font now
>>559546542it'sfuckingover
>>559546505YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
Lash: Increased Sparkles
That's... busted?
>>559546615Negative benefit items like this are basically trolling and you should report your teammates who buy them.
Door chads are we back?
Holy shit they didn't nerf Celeste that much
where can i see the patch notes?
Just switch to Marvel Rivals if you are not a troon.
>>559546296>>559546343
Holy shit split shot is insane right now
Yosh taking a gigantic shite.
>>559546608>>559546784That's what happens when you listen to retarded faggots who cried about her ITT and on reddit day and night.
Paradox bros, did we wonned?
>abrams not nerfed>venator not nerfed>apollo not nerfed>celeste not nerfed>phantom strike not nerfed>crushing fists not nerfed>mina nerfed>graves nerfeddogshit game
Why do they change so much shit at once?
>>559546296Neat
>>559546542rape and kill every single nigga shit (aka night shift) player that valve listens to for balacing holy shit
>>559546435>>559546573>nerf gun ivy until spirit ivy is the only way to play her>nerf spirit ivy as well
>>559547116>what is a pre-alpha
Am I retarded or are the doorman patches nothing but bug fixes and a bit of a loss of skill expression with impact on bells not a thing anymore?
>>559546542>a full minute of cooldownhahahahacelesteGAWDS we won...
drifter -> monster buffed, might even get hotfix nerfed. silence on t3 rend is crazy but really strong. his ult now auto applies isolation (thanks dlg)doorman -> not radically different but definitely buffed. teleport now scaling with spirit is crazy good viskus - goo ball now has all abilities and item usage by default. huge. splatter build is probably back.thank you for the patch lil yoshi
so they made paradox baptiste
Silver's actually fucking useless now. No reason to pick her over any other bruiser if her ult isn't readily available especially since her ult is still difficult to proc unless you have strong aim. So if your ult procs at a bad time you become literally useless for fucking nearly 1 minute now.
>>559546296is this worth it?
>>559546561>Abrams: Shoulder Charge wall stun duration reduced from 0.6s to 0.3sDoesn't this mean he can't combo into heavy melee anymore until he puts two points in?
>>559546435>>559546573I said it back in 2024 and it’s still true now:They have no fucking clue what to do with this character
>>559546343buying it everygame
>>559546542>Silver gutted>Celeste barely touchedWhat the fuck is Yoshi thinking?
>- Mina: Sanguine Retreat T3 changed from "-12s Cooldown" to "+1 Recast"Am I retarded or does that mean Mina can have 3 teleports now? That sounds fucking busted.
>>559547267>>559546902>tumblr yuritroon artYep, now you know you're tourists and can leave. Take the hint, Bye!
>>559547169door teleport scaling with spirit is huge
>McGinnis: Medicinal Specter T1 changed from "+30% Fire Rate" to "+40% Spirit Resistance"To be honest, I do want to see it in practice
>>559416672damn
WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO MCGINNIS
>>559547348>+40% Spirit Resistance on T1DIDN'T SILVER JUST GET BUTCHERED FOR HAVING THAT
any pics saying who got nerfed and who got buffed?
>>559547201Neat, his wall was the most fun part about him.
LET'S SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO
Silver is a genuine throwpick now.
IVY (and silver) DIED SCREAMIN'
Reddit trannies and their opinions ruin this fucking game holy shit.
Brainlet here, who got the biggest buffs and nerfs?
>Spectral Wall segments can now be destroyed with 2 heavy melee hits (destroys an individual segment)Does it even stay long enough for it this to be of any use? How long with extended?
Ivy did NOT deserve this...
lmfao
>- Drifter: Bloodscent now grants Drifter the same amount of permanent bonus weapon damage when an isolated hero dies nearby, whether Drifter gets the assist or the killHoly fucking shit, the ONE hero that had a killstealing mechanic no longer has it, I NEVER want to see any shitters whine about someone stealing their kill ever again
>>559547028not a brain dead nigger, so no I won't. I'll just continue to tell every troon to hang themselves in vc
>>559547649unga buffed, bunga nerfed
weird fucking graves nerfsher wall? really? that's the issue with the character?
>>559547649skub got buffedwe're kings now nigga
>>559546194>Mina lategame buffsI'll take it
>>559545925>>559546296Looks like KINO is back on the menu
>Ivy: Entangling Thorns T3 changed from "+36 DPS and +2m Radius" to "Entangles enemies that remain in it for 2s. Lasts 1.6s"Doesn't sound too bad.
wraith changes seem cool
how many chars didn't get changes
>>559545925>Doorman: Doorway T3 doorway distance now also scales with Spirit Power (0.25)Oh boy.
>>559547909Celeste didn't get changed for some reason
>>559547679Ivy has been completely wrecking shit on the past few games I've had, either on my team or on the enemy team.
>Mirage: Djinn's Mark T3 now also stuns for 0.5s at max stacksFOR THE DJINN!!!!
>Ivy's abysmal early game is now even worse
>they thought they would touch their transbian icon (Celeste) in any negative wayenjoy ur ahri lol
>>559547697>I NEVER want to see any shitters whine about someone stealing their kill ever againI play with a friend who's an Overwatch player and he constantly whines about his kills being stolen, I literally told him souls get split equally but he still does it, I think he's just insecure because he mega feeds, he died 6 times in lane on average
>nothing for hollidayWhy....
infernus stocks back up??
>>559548012ACTIVATE YOUR MARKS, STUN THAT RAT
You just know Venator is one of Yoshi's favs
>>559546561Unbinding my parry button to let Abrams rape me even more
So Silver ult doesn't have any innate resistances anymore? LMFAO
>>559546542listening to shitlow players is how you get a rivals situation ffs
>Celeste got almost untouched while Abrams and Shiv were raped to deathHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYOSHIT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING YOU NIGGER HAHAHAHAHA
What in the fuck is this? You guys better run your hotels or you're giving 10 second ults to the enemy doorman
>>559548078Paradox got her wall and swap reworked + new sounds meanwhile Holliday still has her grey gun
>McGinnis seems to be a sidegrade, most things got worse in significant ways but got strange buffs that might make them better overallI might actually start taking the wall T3 now, the free turret spawns sounds REALLY funny
>>559548218im retarded and can never escape the hotelits over for me
>>559548213abrams is fine, trust me
>that doorman T3holy SHIT
Should I build Split Shot on Celeste now?
>the giant fuckers are buffed or a slap in the hand>silver is now dead literally unusable.
The update broke my mods!
Why did they feel the need to gut his 3's damage even more? The extra size + less time for max DPS is nice but gutting his spirit damage + scaling is horrendous when it already does nothing until the late game.His 3 is everything about his kit PLEASE UNDO THE 1/2 BUFFS IF IT MEANS GETTING HIS OLD 3 BACK PLEASE YOSHI AIEEEEE
>>559548078Shes great what's there to change? You don't just want her to be op right?
>>559548309how do you avoid that
>>559546435>>559546573>Gun cucked further>Bomb gutted to pure CC>Covenent nerfed but now permanent>Stone Form heal fucked>Air drop is assI don't fucking get it so what do they want me to build now?
>>559548382i thought the same thing, they want all his damage to be based on pain batterynot sure if i like to be desu
>>559548127>Ven untouched>furfag favorites crateredMaybe Yoshi is White after all...
>>559548406your counterspell?
>>559548347>silverfags complaining their "girlfailure" is now actually a girlfailurewhat's wrong guys? thought you liked suffering?
>holliday so perfect she got literally 0 changesHoly fuark...the rework faggot crying in a corner
>>559548309BASED>>559548406You don't. Spread open humie
>celeste untouched>apollo untouched>silver nerfsAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA It's just like it predictedWolf was simply too OP with her first pick/first ban at NS
>>559548078>>559548403Holliday is 100% getting a rework lmao
>they buff gun itemsoh nice, maybe Silver will finally be->Immense overwhelming Silver nerfsokay, guess I need to wait more until my fav hero is playableAt least they made Vindicta playable again by fully making her a spirit user, fucking finally.
holy shit celeste genuinely feels like a no gravity hero right now
Silver is actually dog ass now>Melee character that has no innate speedoh cool so now you have to build fucking enduring too because she didn't have enough to build??
>>559548427>>Covenent nerfed but now permanentTHIS PERMANENT SHIT MAKES IT EVEN WORSEYOU USED TO BE ABLE TO DOUBLE MAGNIFY HEALS FOR A BRIEF WHILE WITH THE T5IT'S FUCKING OVER
holliday having a looney tunes kit is way better than being a mccree clone, just play gun geist if you want that.
>>559548601With your logic then Venator is also getting a rework
I'm still fairly new to deadlock but I've mostly played Kelvin and holy shit these changes look amazing>Grenades have healing builtin instead of needing to hit tier 2 (I can actually start off building beam now without fucking over my healing capability)>Ice path is cancelled by hitting the ability key instead of space (this kept confusing the fuck out of me)>Beam lets you cast other abilities while using it >Frost shelter can be casted at someone else to make sure that fucker is in the shelterThis will be fun
why rename kudzu bomb
>>559548652trve, Though it would be nice if building gun holi wasn't complete troll.
Noooo my shitter killer
anyone else defeatmaxxing?
>Mo and Skill can now enter tunnelshow do I weaponize that knowledge?
>Celeste, literally the most oppressive hero in the roster got untouched by the patchWhat did Yoshi mean by this?
I might have to try Wraith now. Genuinely interesting changes.
Twisted Fate bros...
No one is talking about the egg? Seems like a nice meme item. It needs 5 minutes to sell for the price you bought it and you get 4 buffs, so pretty nice for laning.
other tidbits I noticed:- Calico: Leaping Slash T2 changed from +40 damage to +300 souls on hero kill- Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement base ability now restores 1 stamina- Lash: Increased Sparkles- Shiv: Stamina reduced from 3 to 2- Wraith: Card Trick cards now have specific suites with special bonuses. - Card Types: - Spades: +70% Damage - Diamond: Cuts enemy resistances by -8% for 5s. Does not stack. - Hearts: Heals you for 75 HP (1.25 spirit scaling, half heal no non-heroes) - Clubs: 30% Slow for 3s - Joker: Has all of the above effects and bounces to an additional enemy within 20m. (Has 1/9th chance)
>>559547205It seems pretty bad. Lifestrike getting nerfed also really hurts, it's like half as good as it used to be.
drifter got gigabuffed lmao
>>559548756>>559548780wow they made the most boring character actually interesting, nice yoshit
>>559548756>infinite ammotime to magdump the enemy walkers
>>559546542I just don't fucking understand why not give anything to her base form? Silver's issue is that all her power is solely in her wolf form, making her a liability on ur team every single second that she's not in wolf form, so they make wolf form more rare, worse in every single way to the point it barely even counts as "power state" anymore and give no buffs to her base form???
>>559548727rape Rem in the jew tunnels
>>559546573>if you take damage the ability will be unable to be used for 3.5sBro, bro, BRO!
>>559548701why rename tornado
>Mo & Krill: Burrow now lets you enter the tunnelsSAY GOODNIGHT REMFAGS
>literally every character changed in meaningful waysmy brain can't process it
>>559548730Yoshi fucking HATES my wife and has arranged a forced marriage to Celeste.
>they fucking BUFFED PaigeHAHAHAHAHAVELMAGODS STAY WINNING
Silver wolf form moves so fucking slowly nowholy fuck this character is unplayable ass to use now. She just feels like shit
>all those drifter nerfsits so fucking over
>>559548127Good, Venator is balancedI say this as someone who doesn't even play Venator
>>559548780Yeah it's crazy how people here were talking about Wraith not having RNG elements to her kit despite being a gambler and they do this lmao
>>559548428Terrible choice if that's the case, his 3 at least had some form of skill expression (Knowing when to turn it on before the fight and when to turn it off before you kill yourself). So now his gameplay loop is just spamming the 1 button because his 3 does negative damage? Thats fucking lameReally disliking the design choices, hope they listen to feedback quickly.
>>559548846Strictly a support item right?
>>559547342Oh I missed that part, neat
>>559548904>WTF I CAN'T JUST FLY AWAY 0 RISK IF IM IN DANGER?????>IVY IS DEAD!!!!!!
phew thank god ivy's dreadfully strong early game of doing fuck all got nerfed
>doormans range now scales with spirit power>doorman can now chuck you into his spawn all the way from your own walker
holy shit drifter is so fast now with t1 ult
Celeste does feel a lot slower now at least
>>559548904Have you ever heard of Majestic Leap?
>>559548983>rend now does a silence>passive rebalanced to not feel like shit when your team swoops in and steals a kill>ult puts enemies in isolated state like it should havethese are nerfs to you?
why did they nerf silver when she's... le bad? I'm in ritualist and think she's weak. all the eternus 6 players are just wrong.
>>559546789I liked the older names more honestly.
>>559548983nigga he is buffedyou can get his passive even if you dont get kills, thats an extra 5% fire rate every single time someone dies whenever you are within 100 feet of a teamfight
>>559548656Venator it's perfectly balanced, maybe a little overtuned in damage. While Holliday is turbo garbage and Rem is literally an straight upgrade.
>>559548701why rename true form
>>559548780If this bitch pulls a Joker on me you bet I'll be salty.
>silver's perferred gun items nerfed>melee items nerfed>lifesteal items nerfed>every cc and anti mobility hero in the game buffed to hell>silver herself gets giga nerfedAt this point just make her into a heavy hitting shotgun character and make the wolf form just a panic button for low health. It's clear the original concept for her isn't gonna be balanced to a point where she feels good to play without being oppressive.
>boxes not removedmaybe next time
the silver tears are sweet
>>559548876This isn't a balance patch, this is a "stop playing the character" patch. Take the hint.
I'm a newfag paradox, does the new wall mean I have to stay with my lane partner all the time to buff his damage with it?
>no rank rework>celeste barely got nerfedAt least we can ban that cunt now right?
hooked up with a guy that looked like venator and i genuinely felt so autistic when i tried to explain it
>>559548218>mfw run Slowing Hex on my doorman build
>in b4 silver is STILL first pick in the next night shift
Jungle fever bros, Binguschads we are eating good...
>>559549259>can't win at life>can't win in night shift>can't even get picked half the time because she's permabanned>now can't even existThis wolf was BUILT for constant suffering
>>559549117>buy an escape ability since we gutted your escape abilityThe silver lining would be if barrier doesn't count as damage for cooldown? I'm probably coping at this point.
>>559549005idk 10% dmg doesn't seem that bad for what you get unless you're fed and taking every fight on the map.
holy shitabrams is gutted
>>559548218does this mean I can't just counterspell the damage anymore?
>Hotel Guest now doesn't go on cooldown if the target dies during the castBro...Free on-command kill confirm stun?On top of the new stun he gets right after they leave?I'm considering trying out lightning scroll with the new ult changeRest in pepperonis Bellman+Lash combos though, utility man won out in the end
>>559545925>Doorman: Hotel Guest T2 changed from "Unstoppable while channeling" to "+1.5s Stun On Failure To Checkout and 150 Damage">Doorman: Hotel Guest T3 changed from "-50s Cooldown" to "Unstoppable while Hotel is occupied. 10s Cooldown on Failure to Check Out"
Golden Goose Egg is going to be fucked up in low rank matches that last an hour
>>559549000yeah i'll play some games tonight and see how it plays out; will probably write a feedback, the main appeal of victor for me is the 3 damage, not the pain battery. making his damage be mainly based on the skillshot is so weirdit's nice that they reduced the time aura needed to deal max damage but what's the point if it barely scales
>>559548780Heh, it's all in the cards.
>Kelvin: Frost Grenade T2 changed from "Provides healing 80+1.5" to "Freezes stamina regen and -10s Cooldown"
Come play the better game with me instead of this tranny dogshit trash.
>paradox isn't even a hero anymore
i ain't reading all that text is there some pic or something which shows who got nerfed n who buffed?
>>559548780ECAFLIP BROS WE EATIN' GOOD HOLY SHIT.This sounds fun. Probably the kind of fun that's going to make me worthless in a match though.
>>559549581Yeah the healing is now T1 and you have two charges buy default. They really want him to be a heal slut
So uh... is throwing the snow globe going to be what saves Kevin? I'm not really seeing how this patch addresses any of his problems beyond UI fuckery.
>>559549705Which is based, I love being a healslut kelvin.
>>559548993>Yeah it's crazy how people here were talking about Wraith not having RNG Yeah, that was meThis is awesome
>mina giga nerfed>vindicta nerfed>seven nerfedeveryone i play, nerfed..
>>559548502Am i really going to blame another game demise on cock sucking nigger faggots "pro players"? Holy fuck
>>559549767That's the only Kelvin you can be for a long while, let's be real.
>>559549813>Mina>Nerfedlol, maybe early
>>559549169>>559549189yeah no sorry, i was just bullshitting, i haven't even read the patch notes.
>Bebop actually went a whole patch without getting nerfed
>they finally just made Vindicta full spiritfucking finally, hope they keep doing this with other hybrids. hybrid itemization worked in the earlier days of the game but by now every single hero and the game pace has been balanced around a distinct separation between gun damage and spirit damage.
SOMEONE TELL ME WHO GOT NERFED WHO BUFFEDI CBA TO READ THAT FUCKING TEXT WALL
>>559549813Vindicta was buffed what. The new spirit scaling on gun shots means she can build full spirit and still shred with her basic while having access to big fuck off damage with her 1 and her 4
>those viscous changesyour fate is over
>>559546542hahahahahahahahaha 'silver is weak' ritualistposters completely and utterly BTFO, finally this disgusting character is out of my lobbies>>559548183literally EVERY SINGLE high elo player was complaining nonstop about silver for the last month btw, /dlg/ is delusional as always
>TURRET MIKU IS BACKAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEE
>>559549813Most of Vin's changes are buffs, just being able to parry midair means that you can buy counterspell instead of dispel to deal with knockdownsWhat I'm not sure is how her DPS is going to be affected by her scaling changes.
>>559549564You've got stronger will than me anon, this change has sapped all my desire to play him at all.Might just spam drifter until he's hotfixed. The silence sounds funny.
>>559546223Well that's GOOd to know. At least it's something
They might still be working on more Celeste, Apollo, and Venator changes
>>559550198yea think i'm gonna return to grinding the goo boy again>>559549830wow the game is going to die because the furry character got nerfed, it's over
why does it feel like 90% of the characters got massive buffs?...the matches will be pure fucking unbalanced chaos won't they?...
WHERE ARE THE REMODELS
excuse me why is drifter getting buffs when he's already SS tier??? xdd
>You can now target Kelvin's dome on playersHuge potential for some chuddery.
>>559549813It seems like everyone who got new stuff got nerfed to hell to compensate just in case. Wraith in particular can't even shoot while casting telekinesis which means the biggest window of her 1v1 damage is gone, you also have to finagle with their levitating body before you can focus back on shooting which is going to be hell getting used to.
My prediction is that Drifter, McGinnis, and Doorman are going to be raping games now. That sounds even worse than the Abrams bullshit.
>>559549431No, I'm saying have you heard of Majestic Leap? Do you know how it works? Because it has the exact same downside.
>>559550367this but warden
Wait Wraith is kinda fun now?
Fucking finally I dont have to matrix aim my bells anymore to avoid getting a double bodyshot instead of the bellsplosion.
>>559547096>Abrams not nerfedNot just not nerfed anon, he was BUFFED. Aura is 360 now and he has 20% CC resist. His early game is slightly worse with an even better end game
>Bonus creditWhat does that even mean?
>Pocket: Affliction T3 now prevents all healing on targetsnigger what
>>559549169>>559549189Might try Drifter now that I don't need kills then. I'm not good enough at this game as is for that shit.Wraith also sounds interesting now.Dynamo changes sound good. Maybe too good?Victor changes sound good too. He was another character I was too pussy to try.Might also try Calico or Pocket.. Fuck, this opened up some doors for me.
>>559549767I dunno it sounds good if you wanna dmg with some supportingWith the change I can rush t2 beam and still give teammates some healing early on while I BRRRRRRRR
>>559550351The new heroes powercrept everyone
>>559550298There are no secret upcoming balance patchesThere are no venator, celeste or apollo nerfsEnjoy seeing every no skill retard spam gutshot echo shard venator.
whats goose egg do?
>That doorman changeI main doorman and I think this is not healthy for the game, this is just gonna be doormen setting up spawn doors and carting you in it with range covering half the map.I don't know why they got rid of the impact damage on bells and wall cartsm, while also giving him pierce damage which is what he wanted BEFORE them removing the impact damage.Really weird changes and not in a way I think is good to be honest. they took away a lot of the damage and burst and gave him a lot of cheese instead.Thank fuck they finally fixed the ult bug though.
>>559550256wait i didnt think about that wtf.. aerial counterspell kino..>>559549926the fire rate stuff feels nice and all but she doesnt get any movespeed anymore and her sustain is kinda gutted.. i think you go t3 rake really late because +1 recast on the bats seems op>>559550475 prolly if you shoot someone and apply mystic reverb, spirit burn, etc and kill them it counts as killing with your 4?
>>559550545>whats goose egg do?Lets you greed harder
>>559550484just clear it bro
>the furfag tearsGlorious.
Toggle slide feels less shitty with this new change
>>559550484IMAGINE BEING A VICTOR MAIN RIGHT AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHACOULDN'T POSSIBLLY BE ME
>Lash: Increased SparklesHE'S FUCKING BROKEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOSHI
>everyone is overpowered now>except for ivy and silver i guessokay?...
>>559550427Then there Silver who didn't get shit but just nerfed into oblivion lmao
IS HAZE BUFFED OR NERFED?idk what to make of this shitthe ult is buffed but the rest nerfed? shes 56% wr
My husband is balanced!
>>559550861You have Celeste and Apollo to thank for this
>>559550351The Valve method
>>559550367they nerfed the fuck out of his laning phase though, rend only doing melee damage up close (8m which is hug distance) means he doesn't get free melee lifesteal procs from halfway across the lane anymore.
>>559550942He also has a big cock.
GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY SILVER GOT GUTTED BUT THE FUCKING MLP OC DIDNT
>>559548993I was literally thinking about this on my walk last night lmao
>Infernus: Melee can now buildup afterburn (20% for light melee, 35% for heavy)this is hilarious
rembros, the moleman is onto us....
>>559547697>onei see somebody has never played grey talon
What the fuck, they changed the sound effect for Geist's gun
>>559550942Yes he is, Mina.>>559550979Paige, it's not nice to kiss and tell!
>>559550984Most shitters can't move and so they aren't even aware that Celeste is strong
>>559550861>Entangles enemies that remain in it for 2s. Lasts 1.6sthat's op
i wanted silver nerfs but this is too much lol50s cd wolf is insanegeez1
>>559550992there's cats, owls, moles and monkeys in the tunnel
I guarantee you fags were grtting a hotxfix patch tomorrow buffing silver
>>559550264in the grand scheme of things its technically a buff because on paper his early/mid game should be much better now with the gun and battery buffsbut that's not the appeal of the character for me, it was the aura... i really like the design, voice and everything about him so i'll just adapt to it. might try that cultist sacrifice build instead of torment pulse rush since that got some nerfs too, not looking forward to it but ehbeing an aimlet is suffering
>>559547223When he puts points in it he still can. Also you should always get duration extender on Abrams even if it's not "meta" because more stun is better, more aura is better, and it gives 8% bullet resist
>>559549005I could see some late game carry buying egg first item and waiting all game to hatch it and cash in
>>559548213Celeste will be raped next, trust the plan
Come play MR with me lads. The superior game.
>>559551241Wait for the next Night Shift, if she's first pick again you can forget it
how much rape does he do now?
>>559550861CRY TOURIST REDDIT NIGGER CRY AHAHAHAHA
>mcginnis Gun nerfed "for some reason">fuck ass turrets buff, but I guess we have have 5 once againBeing a god damn Gun Ginnis main fucking sucks dude. I just want to shoot my Minigun at people, I do not care about her god damn turrets.
>Slowing Hex: Projectile speed increased from 53m/s to 80m/sFinally, every time I cast, it seems like by the time it gets to them it won't even matter since they already gained distance.
>Yamato: You can now cast Parry directly while channeling Power Slash to fire the Power Slash and parryFor a second, I thought it meant that she could "fire" her parry to block melees from afar. Unless that's what it actually means.
>nerf Mo's ult>buff Doorman's ultNext night shift will be interesting I think
- Calico: Leaping Slash T2 changed from +40 damage to +300 souls on hero kill- Calico: Leaping Slash T3 changed from -50% CDR on hit to -50% CDR and +60 damageIS THIS NOT FUCKING BROKEN WTF?>t. calico player
>>559551320>healer mainfemboy nigger
>>559551241Maybe, maybe. But until then I'm going to enjoy laughing at all the weepy faggots.
>>559551332>Bells do less damage because impact is completely removedLess rape but overall FAR more annoying and can threaten massive areas with his bell spam
shivs ult isnt point and click anymore HAHAHAHAAH time for all shiv mains to disappear
>didn't change Apollo>didn't change Celeste>didn't change Graves>didn't change Venetor>barely changed Rem>made Silver unplayable
>Minimap now indicates if the Urn is a favored, neutral or unfavoredfucking finally, thanks (I will still ignore urn runs because they are boring as shit)
>>559551484Calico is the fucking favorite child, I keep telling you people and no one listens.
>Shiv Ult no longer a point and click execute, its a dash you have to aim I was wondering if this was ever going to get reworked into a skillshot
>holiday didn't get any buffs>she's not even mentioned
When will mods be fixed?
>>559551540don't forget>doorman overpowered>drifter overpowered>wraith overpowered>calico overpowered>vindicta overpowered>abrams still overpoweredhave fun!
why is my yamato a jinchuriki now
>>559551320lol, mousecuck
>>559551320Grandmaster on support (especially fucking Rocket) is hardly even gold by DPS and Tank standards
>>559551563Gonna jerk off to Zaawaadi to celebrate...
>>559551592she has the perfect kit, what's there to change
>>559551484Calico was already borderline OP as is
>Mirage can no longer teleport out for free, as any damage interrupts the channel>But he gets 400 barrier on T2>Djinn Mark T2 damage buff got increased from 8.1 to fucking 20 for fat multipliers >Scarabs are now useful and work as a normal charged ability>Tornado has a recast on T3HHAHAHAHAHHFOR THE DJIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACONSUUUUUUUME THEMsomeone post the video
>>559551628A what
>Lash: Grapple T3 changed from "+20% Fire Rate" to "+60% Air Control and +1 Stamina on Usage"Because this fuck wasn't flying around the map enough
UPDATE AVAILABLE
Vindicta status?
>>559551375WAIT....Barrage got buffed, time for more fucking artillery
>>559545046>>559550150Forget everything I said, seems like going stalker and spirit strike will now be very good buys early. Bullet resist shredder will also be good. Duration extender seems good mid to late now that ult kills count as isolated kills.
>>559546435What is this character supposed to do exactly?She needs 20 minutes to be able to do anything?
>>559551320I don't like marvel.
Myeah, I'm gonna permanently quit Silver and just play Vindicta 24/7
>>559551794knockdown
I don't know why, but I absolutely despise Grey Talon. Fuck that guy and anyone who plays him
>>559551686why is she baldjerked off once or twice but that always bothered me
>>559545442>Doorman: Gun now pierces through targets at 50% reduced damageFucking shit, about damn time.
>>559551684What if I'm D1 and climbing as an Adam Warlock main
Vindicta has just become an absolute terrorist in streetbrawl now that she can parry while in flight
>>559551687Buff crackshot's spirit scaling
>>559551991The inverse, getting that high with Adam already makes you better than 99% of other people because he's so dogshit
>watch deathy because he's smarter than me>he keeps saying that the entire meta is shaken upside down and that every character just about has some kind of broken op aspect to them now
>Eat shit roughly 4 out of 5 matches>But also regularly get some of the most talkative, laid back teammatesi kinda like initiate matchmaking, I have fun even when losing. A shame this'll go away eventually.anyway when will we get surrendering I hate wasting my time for 43+ minutes on a downward slope game that takes forever to lose
>>559551824meleeing and parrying in flight feel very good, you move quite far, like it feels really good to melee in flight, you gotta try italso her spirit is buffed
>>559549026Unironically though. You were supposed to buy knockdown against Ivy if you wanted her to not fly away.
>>559552051Buy an ad, nigger
>ivy, kelvin, and viscous go full healslut>paige buffed>rem basically untouchedit's over
>>559551983except he doesnt even need it anymore lmao
>>559552119now you can shoot her :)
>>559552051>just about has some kind of broken op aspect to them nowwelcome to icefrog game design, better learn 2 counterbuild
NOOOOO SILVER MY LOVE GET BEHIND ME THESE VALVECHUDS WONT NERF YOU ANYMORE
>>559551332assassin doorman is gone, his burst is basically removed he's not a certified teamfight bell spammer and they gave his doors spirit scaling which means you can now cart people into spawn from halfway across the map.I don't like the ult changes personally, they're doubling down on failure to check out payouts which is largely worthless because people almost never fail checking out anyway.>muh slowing hexyou buy vortex web and wasting it in hopes of making one guy potentially fail the check out is beyond wasteful.
>>559552149>ivy go full healslutEven that got nerfedYOU CAN'T HAVE DOUBLE TETHER ANYMORE AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEDo you realize how much fucking healing she loses from that
Drifter rend ,Infernus melee, Shiv ult (having to aim it, not removing the resets) and Wraith's ult and card suites are really nice changes but the game is still dogshit and most of the other changes are backwards and tone deaf
>>559552051Maybe im just 2IQ but Paradox seems very...whelming
Welp, we had a good run.Pack it up, boys, the party's over.
tldr me on the Mina changes
The egg's buffs don't seem very good
>>559552149>viscous healslut>goo ball now allows all abilities by defaultyea no
>>559552149The dawn of the support meta is here, pepper your angus DPSchuds
>reduces love bites damage by -10>increase spirit scaling EVEN HIGHER THAN BEFORE THE NERFwhat the actual fuck is wrong with them????? Did they not fucking learn their lesson?The spirit scaling is why she's so fucking strong, all it takes is improved Spirit for her to rape you by doing nothings, 1.6 wasn't even a slap on the wrist in terms of nerfs.
>>559552209he's now a certified teamfight bell spammer*
>>559546539HOWHe feels so helpless in combat as the game goes on
Is knife shiv real again?idc about the other changes if it means I can stop playing dash build
>Mirage teleport actually useful nowNo way
If Yoshit refuse to fix the game at least put a fucking surrender button ffs.
>>559552278no longer lane hitler, now not useless lategame
>>559545679He's in.
>>559551824We're hitscan now, if someone dies within 4s of assassinate you still get your stacks, full spirit scaling, and crow familiar is a cone instead of a skillshot
>>559551684I used to fill roles but now for the past few days I've been just going rocket. Stress free. Listening to early 00s classics while spamming RMB.
new patch inhouse lobby 7/12 HMVY5HMVY5HMVY5HMVY5
Any tips on playing melee characters like abrams and billy? I'm always afraid of getting parried which is a harsh punishment for a measly 100 dmg or so
>>559552408go back to lel
>>559552474>Any tips on playing melee characters like abrams and billy?Their guns are great too, the heavy melee is just giving you too much dopamine to try
>>559552149>>559552242spirit ivy is even better now
>Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement no longer grants +26% Fire Rate nor reloads ammoOf course this shit happens just as I was praising this game the other day for allowing heroes to run whatever builds you want and not be enclosed into typical moba roles.Fucking kill me.
>>559551828Cute Risk of RainGinnis
>>559546959That's it. I've seen enough. This is too much. We need to nerf bebop.
>instead of autopiloting Wall on Swap I now can autopilot Wall on CarbineThanks Yoshi, very cool
>>559552209>lash and technically sinclare can ult entire teams every 30s but for some reason everyone else has super long ult CDsWhy is this acceptable?
>Paradox is even more compbait now>Shiv ult guttedLmaooo
>>559551248>in the grand scheme of things its technically a buff because on paper his early/mid game should be much better nowthe issue with that is its not enough. You take his late game scaling out back and cartel execute him in exchange for *at* best a mediocre early/mid game. So you ruined his status as a late game carry for what? C-tier performance early/mid instead of D-tier?That's not a equal trade in the slightest.Sorry if I sound like a miserable bitch but the design choices are just mindfucking me. Pocket late game cucking you now and Venator being untouched is just the icing on the shitcake
>>559552209>his burst is basically removedmy brother they are letting you hit someone with 2 giga bells the moment they come out of checking out
>>559552278>>559552359Rake scaling, damage, heal and Tiers were all shuffled around basically.Her fucking Love bites were hyper fucked to be STRONGER than everPeople underestimated why she was so damn strong and it all came from her love bites mass damage
damn, all these changestoo bad im a bitchboy that is scared of other people and just solo bots all day
>>559552542>now gives +1 stamina by defaultyou stupid motherfucker
>>559552414I sea what you mean
>>559552542>Majority of quantum entanglement plays are bypassing things>Now he can bypass non-ult ccIt was a buff to how dynamos actually play
>>559552474meleeing is always just mind games, you can play it safely with low risk low reward or high risk high reward.You can hug them, baiting them to do a predict parry on a light melee and if they don't, do a cheeky light melee to condition them to do prediction parries so you can punish them for it. or you can just be more careless with light melees and have a higher chance of getting parried. it all depends on how badly they can punish you on a parry desu.
What if you just buy goose eggs and use them immediately
>>559552350Nyooo!
Holy fuck Wraith is a monster now.
>>559550587The scaling upgrade makes his bells macho af now, just missing out on some group up combos which were hyper situational anyways so I dont mind it.Placing them around like slowing land mines during a fight sounds fun enough I suppose. As for the door scaling I do feel like it does open the pandora's box of Doorman just becoming a vortex spawn bot which is nasty but on the other hand rushing T3 door allows him to be super annoying and encourages more walker/taking an enemy completely out of the fight plays which I do support.
>>559552580I don't hate the idea but it makes it super obvious when you're fishing for a carbine
is Mirage just actually Prophet now with the teleport?
>>559552695now with bonus stamina. so technically he's even a stronger pursuer/duo ganker >>559552790kinda what they were going for
>>559552790yup
Quick rundown?
>infernus and wraith both gigabuffedWOKE IS BACK!!!
>>559552726You lose 400 souls in exchange for 2 boons
>>559552790by my shaggy balls
>>559552650same
HMVY5 jhoin party Theres games
IS HAZE BUFFED OR NERFEDI CAN'T FUCKING TELLLL
>>559552849march is now black history month
>>559552410I'll take it
>>559552790you can't use it to escape anymore so it's worse
>enter a match>our team has 4 supportserm...
>>559552161Wait why
>>559552968They gave her dispel back on her 2 so I'm happy with that
>>559552624I mean that's only if you go t3 on bells which lets be real is going to be a really hard sell when you need t3 for cart to make it a useful skill and t3 for doors now that they have such crazy use. so that won't be happening until so much later in the game where everyone will have spirit res anyway. the increased time between bells also hurts this a lot because now it's 4 seconds between bells with rapid recharge which is a lot.
WHATS THE NEW DOORMAN BUILD BROS, GIVE IT TO ME SO I CAN MAKE PEOPLE MAD
So Shiv is basically dogshit now.
>>559550431Yes McGinnis was really strong before, but much of her power was late game and also stuck behind itemization...
>Graves largely untouched>McG buffs>Mirage scarabs are finally normal now>Pocket buffs>Seven buffs fucking how lmao>Victor buffs I think? It'll probably take even longer to get online but his 3 reaches max dps faster (and you can put a point on his 4 early)>Wraith is now 300% more interestingPretty nice
>>559545641This but unironically
Actually better off not scaling silver's ult now fucking kek!
>>559553025i think itll be fun to get giant procs lategame so ill take it to, also t3 bats will be fun i think, and t3 rake is basically the same heal to full off 3 mini jungloids
*Steals your bridge buff*
>Victor: Aura of Suffering T3 reduced from +13% Damage to +15%Typo?
>>559550984silver>shitlows were too retarded to walk away from her ult>espergs first picked her every game making it seem like she's turbo brokenceleste>shitlows can't shmoove so celeste was largely ignored by them>espergs only had issue with her movementthis was obvious before patch was even out.
>everyone either buffed or changed in a way that doesn't diminish fun>silver is made unplayable in any context ever againidk why every competitive character based game needs to have a hero that the devs obviously hate and just chose to remain unplayable just because.
>>559553183It looks like they went overboard but I haven't played him yet. Two stam is wild.
>Mina's late game isn't dogshit anymoreHER REACH IS BOUNDLESS
>>559550861tale as old as time when it comes to retarded moba devs, overbuff everyone, and nerf to the ground one good
>shiv nerfed to two staminaomg transmasc shiv
>>559552605no i agree with you completely anon, i really don't mind being poopoo early game, ok mid and then raidboss late game. that was the whole point of the character, wasn't it???i really wish they'd leave 1 and 2 untouched, buffed the range, damage and reduced the time to scale of auramaybe the ult t1/t3 changes because those are pretty nice, and that would make me happythe changes are so contradictory... what's the point of giving aura a few buffs but completely cuck the scaling???? oh well, i will play soon and see how it goes. if it sucks at least i can play rem
>>559553305is it not? i was reading the notes and she seemed kinda gutted overall
why is pocket asian
>>559553305MINA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'm almost certain the High Velocity change was because of Celeste
>>559553347her love bites proc and ult scales like crazy lategame now
>>559553263FOR THE DJINNRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHH
>Radiant regen buffedIs it really that bad now? Yesterday I played an Ivy game and tried it to test. I often got 500+ healing in a teamfight from it and in very end game it healed me pretty much to full twice in a prolonged fight. I don't think lifesteal outside the active would do that for her. I know it's not good for everyone but for area denial like her and seven it seems p good no?
>Dogfucking Hobo is now total shitWhat am I supposed to play now
>>559553347her spirit scales .03% better now
>there's a bug with the new item giving a fuckton of moneyThis fucking game is unplayable man
>>559551346>TOURIST REDDITRedditors hate Silver though? Nice that you outed yourself faggot.
>>559553485that seems extremely small
>>559553101bellmaxxing is absolutely going to be insane25 seconds is enough to basically set up a bell, move to another late and have it automatically go off and clear the creep waveit lets you secure chokesit lets you burst out of hotel guest, or set them down and cart someone into them i think door t3 is a memedoors in general are a meme, trying to cart someone into your base is funny for a twitch clip but its just not practical compare to cart t3 and now bell t3
>>559553484kill yourself
>>559553530They found it that fast?
the patch notes are TOO LONG!!!
>Those viscous buffsCan I try Splatter spirit build again or will I be a loser?
Lash got a new parry animation
>>559553462I've toyed with it on apollo but with the buff I think it will be a mainstay
how do you target Kelvin's dome? I'm clicking it on other people but it still seems to just shoot out of him
>>559553484Mina
abrams with this streetbrawl melee epic is hilarious lmaojust wallslam, punch, punch someone 50m away, wallslam, punch
gutting characters that are hard countered by actives is concerning
>>559553101>>559553607I actually Fucking hate how his abilities are dogshit until they're at t3. No other hero has this issue.
>>559553484except he literally just got huge buffs
>>559553746looking into this
>Speaking of nerfs I heard Silver's getting 98 nerfs shoved up her ass
>>559553715>puffs out his chest to parryholy sexo
>>559553746fuck you Silver no one likes you"hard countered" my ass, your hero buys 0 counters to anything.
>>559553484>they buff drifter>drifter mains are too stupid to realize they're buffscan't make this shit up
>my shitty pun that I thought of while taking a shit actually got implementedsmall victories lads
>>559552590110 sec is one of the longest max cds?
>>559551824She has a built in healbane on her 3 now and it's now a cone that hits multiple people.Support Vindicta also got a massive boost now that she can collect stacks from assists and has a fuckuge range increase on items while in flight.I'm not sure if I like the direction they're going with her, but at least they didn't make her a boring m1, she should definitely be much stronger now.
>>559553746None of these items stop her from meleeing you for 50% of your base health howeverthoughbiet
What drives Shiv players to keep on?Is it sheer tenacity? Spitting in the face of destiny?
HMVY5HMVY5HMVY5need 1 more
>>559549562Fuck off, golden goose egg shit is fucking bugged and lost me 800 souls
>>559549585"Come play bad Overwatch"
>>559553847woah there man that's someone's main
>>559553484No fucking way you think these are nerfs.
cant wait for seven/haze/infernus to get egg first item and be even more passive in lane
>>559553958>doxing yourself to play with /vg/ schizosHard pass
>>559553925dont the stacks only count if YOU get the kill after you hit the assassinate?
All 3 Bebop mains (me included) are fucking ELATED!!!
>my girlfailure remains unchangedshe keeps winning, baby!
>>559553484your hero is easily S tier now retard
COME PLAY MARVEL ALLIES
>>559549562>buy egg first item>sell when buying before a big fight around late mid/early late>profit
>>559553947cool hair
>>559546223they changed puddle punch vfx and it's not a tentacleyou are a liar
>>559554058>sorry i can't fight i'm waiting to hatch my egg
>>559554116>>559549562what buffs does it even give?
>>559553857That's because her build is 80% greens so she doesn't explode the moment poople hear the Awooooo!
>>559554114wtf is marvel allies? some shitty mobile game?
>>559554059>doxxingjust set your profile as private
Ok I'm only up to Doorman in these balance changes but how many fucking times is this patch going to be >'see? we nerfed this overtuned character! (they can still get whatever was taken from them later with a T1/T2/T3 upgrade, sometimes even stronger than it was before)'
>Abrams stats buffed even further across the board>The degenerate echo shard shoulder one shot strats untouched. Buffed even>Celeste and Apollo basically untouched aside from minor ult nerfs that were not the issue with either hero???This patch fixes fucking nothingIt fact it seems to make obnoxious things even more soMy desire to play over the weekend just plummeted to zeroProbably best to just drop the game until next major update.
>another abysmal dogshit balance updateyawn
>street brool is even more unbalanced nowthey should decrease respawn times by like half and give the objectives 10x health and damage tbhdesu
>Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement no longer grants +26% Fire RateWill this stop my retard Dynamo teammates from teleporting me off cooldown now?
>>559554116>75 souls per minuteIt takes 10 minutes to break even on your $800 damage debuff
Is this the Mirage buff we've been waiting for
>>559553947I STILL GOT FIGHT IN ME
>>559554114Anon that game uses the same comp system as their phone games where top ranks just mean you kept hitting play rather than actually being placed there because you accomplished anything.
>>559554074Don't know, haven't tested yet but it would be pretty dumb if they require you to get a kill in the same patch that they removed that from Drifter.
>>559553746>character that can 1v2 under enemy tower on early game gets rightfully nerfed>"this is concerning"nah, fuck Silver, the rest of heroes' nerfs can be discussed (rip Shiv) but that furry bitch got what was coming to her finally
>>559554114that shit is 100gb even if I wanted to I don't have space for it
Doorman bells are awesome now and anyone telling you otherwise is a brainlet
>>559553607I honestly disagree, I'm not saying t3 bells are bad but t3 doors is just a potential pick off (with potential for multiple targets) on a 40 sec cooldown on anyone within walker range instead of just within the bases's proximity with the new changes which makes it pretty strong when mixed with vortex web or arctic blast>>559553783absolutely, the t3 on his cart still being the way it is as long as it has been still boggles my mind considering that it's basically a non skill without it. the rest I can understand but the cart just doesn't make any sense.
>>559546965>procs on puddle punch because of the new changeslmao
>took away Paradox wall + ult combo because wall does nothing to enemies nowFor what purpose? Was Paradox really strong in night shift or something?
>other heroes raped to death by nerfs>The Lash>picrel
the egg item is going to be such a grief tier item
>have infinite money because game hasn't ended at 50 minutes>buy and use golden eggs for 10k gold>get 50 golden statue buffsnothing personnel kiddo
>>559554370I just wish towers were actually a threat that can't just easily be cheesed with a quick parry that everyone and their mothers can pull off.
apollo status?
>>559545442>nerf rake but over buff the upgrades>buff sanguine retreat to three dashes>buff love bites with more damage and now a cancerous slow are they stupid?
>>559554463>"I should swap them through this">the musings of the utterly deranged
my team just got raped and gaped by silver
>>559554407>just made it another aoe grenade with no depth
>>559553857>"hard countered" my ass, your hero buys 0 counters to anything.SHE DIDN'T HAVE ROOM TO
Silver died for our sins
please dont conflate the egg with trans stuff
Justice for all the shota's Mina deflowered...
>>559554552they cant nerf the gooner characters
>>559554114I love how both these games just made my mains unplayable and or have shitty and questionable balance.
SPIRIT DRIFTER BROS WE ARE EATING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
>>559554552it always had a slow you dumb faggot
>>559554472
>>559545442>mo and krill can now enter the tunnelsi told you they were jews
>>559554726
>>559554463I assume night shift paradox will just set up a wall for her allies to shoot through, 60% bonus damage is insane
>>559554207bohoo nigga, other melee characters had nowhere near as good built in tankyness and they did just fine. silvertards just want to be impervious to everything and brainlessly w+m1 instead of actually positioning well and buying counter items like literally every other close range character.
>>559553879see>>559554726I know they're huge buffs. Especially for spirit drifter. Pure m1ggers need not reply. 300 games on him btw>>559554806based fuck that faggot rem bitch ass
>>559554552>nerf rake but over buff the upgradesThey did this with every overtuned ability, it's fucking stupid
how the hell do you build doorman now? do you no longer go for ability range via utility items and just go hard spirit scaling?
>>559553947He's simply the single most Brazilian bait character in any game ever. Latinos cannot resist the siren call of that gorilla ape Elvis haired retard
>>559554114not worth playing until they add a role queue, there are so many SSS supports and dps characters that shitters can abuse to eternity with a negative win rate.
>>559548915You're going to end up stuck in the tunnels because burrow duration is too short to use them if you haven't planned a route in advance.
Wait I kinda like that Ivy can just have perma move speed fire rate lifesteal and heal forever this feels nice
>first match>Silver MVP>topscoring on almost every stat>we win despite having a leaver before the match even startedlmaoThey basically removed her knees and she's STILL brokenTHIS is the shit furries were trying to downplay as underpowered
>>559554887>skill thats too good early and dead late gets nerfed early and buffed late>this is something to seethe over
>>559545442>paige's shield renamed to plot armorWE DID IT REDDIT!!!
>>559554934His ult is absurd now I assume you just go slowing hex and ult everyone
>>559554934>hard spirit scalingunc there's literally only 1 spirit scaling item in the game. you buy that shit+spirit investments+extended range+vortex web and now maybe ballistic enhancement aswell, which means nothing changed except now you may opt to buy ballistic enhancement.
Anyways Max Holloway vs Charles Oliveira is tomorrow who do you think is winning?
>>559555019A lot of the time it's more that the ability is just too good period, I'm sick of these backhanded nerfs especially when they are actually making the ability stronger in a lot of cases once upgraded
>>559554812She'll buy Vortex Web and meme the whole team somewhere fucky>we've heard you guys like Lash so we've added another one
>>559555043Thats actually pretty cringe and takes away what made those abilities unique: that they were pages of a story coming to life....now its a 4th wall breaking deadpool joke.
so everything is just number tweaks besides golden egg, and weighted shots?
>>559555092what about ability investments? all of the t3's except bell seem insanely good now
>>559555103nigga who tf are those sound like gay pornstars
>gargoyle made of stone has less gravityexplain this
>>559554762no it didn't
>>559553565>UHMMMM ACTUALLY I KNOW A LOT ABOUT REDDIT AND WHAT THEY LIKE!!!!! that means YOU are the redditor!LMAOOOOOO
>Shiv, the dude who has to crawl up people's asses to be useful gets Stam reducedWhat the fuck man, this shit is even worse than the Ult change.HE HAS A 43% WIN RATE WHAT THE FUCK MAN
>>559555103I don't watch manhug
>>559554642This here, Silver has basically no wiggle room in her builds, she needs to be fed to stray from her mandatory core items that cost like 45k total.
>>559555123Since her wall doesn't silence anymore wouldn't it be pretty risky to do that though?>Oops you got the enemy fed carry right in your face though you just wanted their squishy support
>>559555103Whoever has the bigger cock
>>559555197In theory it's a positive but this shit feels weird to me now.
>Vindicta: Flight now allows you to use meleeyou thinkin' what i'm thinkin'?
>>559555258like many deadlock toons, they have no fucking clue what to do with shiv
>>559555160they still come from a book retard
>>559552685i'm with him i liked being a pushgod as dynamo, now I have to rush healing tempo instead
>>559555258b-but muh good in comp with draft
shiv is ugly so I don't play him
>>559555160???
>>559552242her tether is now always active tho, and it gives her lifesteal
>the one friend that i had that would play deadlock with me every now and then won't play with me anymore and is always playing with some other friend groups
is it me or the matchmaking is EVEN WORSE than before?
>>559549585>>559554114>PLEASE PLEASE COME PLAY MY DEAD CHINK CLONEGEIMU OR DISNEY IS GOING TO CUT MY PAY FOR 5 RUPEES AN HOUR SAARlmao brown beggar
do people enjoy fighting geist
>>559555343>reading comprehension You're brown.
I thought only women had 2 stam, what does this say about Shiv?
>>559553879nta but i'm pretty sad that T3 Rend doesn't grant bullet lifesteal now.Though changing it to proc Silence is pretty crazy
>>559555197she has wings
>>559555258winrates dont matter, they nerf whatever retards cry about the most
current drifter can probably do an urn WR right now
>>559555258he is OP if you can truly play him, must-pick in pro play
>>559555002Amazing what happens in seeker.
>>559555429they put my ass in ritualist and i have less than 50 matches
>>559555197she can fly with wins
>>559555287Of course.I genuinely have no idea how the fuck her T3 Ult is supposed to work right now. Funny, maybe, but this is probably the only upgrade that can actually fuck you over hard. They all stick together like a faggot centipede and suddenly you're not the pick character anymore.
>>559554631>Area denial actually useful damage late game damage item has no depth compared to... good in a lash combotrue
>>559548780I need a Gambit skin for her and I need it yesterday
>>559555173I don't really see them changing much, you still need the stun on the cart really bad, the door t3 is good but you can as always wait to get it after cart since you don't need it early, the ult tier 1 seems really good but the rest seem super gimmicky and honestly not that good, 10 second cooldown sounds nice until you also account for the duration people spend inside and it only works if they fail so it might not even give you anything and even if it does the teamfight is probably over by the time you can cast it again, unstopable is whatever really, hardly needed it as doorman to begin with.I think the main change is that you'll go for bells t3 as the third t3 now instead of the ult's since it actually gives you some additional uses for the bells (ult set up, anti push, extra charge)
>>559555505then you must their most esteemed consultant
>doorman changesYoshi is one sick bastard
>>559555197Wings, innitShe shouldn't be able to fly at all, but if she can, might as well make her floaty
>>559553357mina is asian.
>everyone expected venator/silver/celeste/apollo/rem changes>get the biggest balance patch in the history of the entire gameare you happy?
>>559555541>he's OP if you run your brain at 150% capacityThen why the fuck is Apollo OP is you run your brain at 10%
I'm surprised they didn't touch Talon or Graves, does Vinny's 4s grace period mean she gets the stacks even if they steal the kill, or does she only get it if she snipes and then kills the target herself
>>559554726https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuQfm1Y9rE&t=72s
>>559555718she's his mom?
>>559555657just wait till you see the pocket changes, he can now prevent all healing instead of -40% with his ult
>>559555258Gutting his stamina and his ult at the same time was a bit unhinged but at least they have shit to balance with . Basically just forces him on surge/kdash
>>559549451Actually yeah. Counterspell is no longer an acceptable form of checking outGGs doorman is now cancer
>>559555571I'll take your word on it, yiffnigger
>buy eg>accidentaly sell egFUCK
>>559555197she should have more gravity but an increased jump height
>>559554507I tested this in sandbox because it sounded funny but it doesn't work. Base gives 0 buffs, you only get them after collecting 200 souls (1 buff for 600, 2 for 800, 3 for 1000 etc.)
>>559555734very much, i'm now excited to revisit older heroes
>Yamato is whatever, nothing special>nerfedWhat the fuck is this patch? Genuinely.
>>559555776no interracial couples allowed
>Viscous punches now look like UE5 slop assetsthe soul of Deadlock... is gone
sheeeeeiiiiiiitt
>>559555002This will probably happen indeed, shitlows will keep crying instead of buying a single counter item.
>>559555738because unlike shiv apollo is easy as fuck to play? i have no idea why the brainlets said hes a complex hero or some shit he's easy as fuck to pick up and play, you need to utilize shotgun movement as shiv or ur trolling + aim the daggersapollo u don't have to do anything but mash ur keyboard, the "parry" is pretty much a guaranteed stun
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
>>559545925>they nerfed my bell nuke spam buildI'm actually seething, I have no idea how to play him now. Just max ult and try to cheese with the T3 cooldown reduction?
>>559555258Dota style balancing. If a hero gets picked a lot in pros and isn't one of Abdul's favorites, he will keep getting nerfed no matter how low his winrate goes. Citation: Lucifer the Doom
>play EU>hit phantom>literally every single lobby is 100% russiansI am seriously considering going NA and playing with 150 ping because those cunts are impossible to play with>refuses to speak english>screeches like an autistic kid whenever they die because every russian has their W key permanently stuck>most retarded builds you have ever seen
>Pocket gets AA ult without the need for a skillshot
>>559555836Huh, must have fixed it then. It worked for me with the base 400 souls.
They really rushed this patch out, a lot of these new upgrades don't even change the ability tooltips
>>559555859Yamatoes was too forgiving for the average pub brainlet, they kept getting away with playing like shit and forcing their team into playing like a gorilla to prevent the Yamato from raging like a sperg
>>559555404It always gave her (bullet i.e. shit) lifesteal and who gives a fuck if it's always active when you can't burst heal as well anymoreBefore it was>pop tether on 2 targets -> pop health nova and beam -> 3 people on your team now near full hp againNow it's>don't pop tether because you can't -> pop health nova and beam -> 2 people on your team near full hp again (but not as near as with double tether because you don't get the twice magnified healing anymoreIT'S SHIT
>>559555932>gravesrobber
>>559555951they want her to be an ult botexpect nerfs to the rest of her kit next patch
>>559556039even though her winrate is shit?
>>559552359The idea is to make her weaker early game and stronger late game but i think they fucked it up because you can easily buy 1 or 2 spirit items early to way then make up for the loss
>>559556083but her ult is useless if she can't do damage
this patch is more interesting than the big update lmao
>the new update broke all replaysebin
>golden goose egg>trophy collector>cultist sacrificeyep it's deadlocking time
>>559556060kek
>>559556197that is because its more gameplay content than 5 new characters really
>>559556261calm down, rem
>>559555982doom is a hero in this general
>graves puts her 4 at their guardian>zombies almost reach our baseWtf is this bullshit
>>559556008100% antihealing btwIf you play any hero with healing as its core kit you are a kek.Venator left untouched just incase you thought it could get worseSeriously what the fuck is this patch
>>559556197They should have had brawl mode awhile ago. This mode allows them to streamline the balance process of items and abilities. No idea why they thought it was ok to add comp shit to an invite alpha.
>Mo & Krill: Burrow now lets you enter the tunnels!!! I am so fucking back!>Mo & Krill: Combo cooldown increased from 90s to 150sthis one hurts though.
>Backstabber -> Stalker>Kudzu Bomb -> Entangling Thorns>Watcher's Covenant -> Kudzu Connection>Tornado -> Dust Devil>Conjure Dragon -> Bookwyrm>Defend and Fight! -> Plot Armor>Flying Strike -> Flying SlashRate the renames
>>559555859she got buffed though you retardwhat the fuck is with the people in this thread
>>559555624>unstopable is whatever really, hardly needed it as doorman to begin with.While true I am already laughing at the dream of cheat death into door that leads to your spawn while unstoppable meme
>>559556027Blame Yoshi for giving a deadline.Never tell the retarded masses anything unless it's ready.
brawl winrate is now 100% no i will not elaborate
>>559556261am I crazy for not thinking golden egg seems good? the souls per minute is insanely slow, it takes 10 minutes of afking before you even break even with your 800 soul investment
>>559555932The fluffy hair is kind of cute ngl, put it on regular graves
>>559556373I kneel
why did they buff victor lol.>no mvp btw
>>559553932>silence waveshe can't cast her shit so you just walk away>disarmshe can't claw you for shit so just walk awayit's that easy
is support vindicta back on the menu?also they should make crow benefit from radius.
>>559556448*bans you*
>>559556461It's there to tell you it's gonna be one of these games the moment you spot one in your team
>>559556384No, she's overall nerfed.You don't play her
>>559556376all better except kudzu bomb
>>559556520See >>559553932Point still stands.
>>559556461you get permanent stats too, it's beeg
>>559556461It's an item for supports or when you are losing lane. Looks decent but that's it.
>New Lash Parry animation>He parries with his chestKino
>>559556448magic carpet/warp stone + max affliction is a free win, 3x the damage of anyone in the lobby
>>559556461You need to hold it for 42 minutes to buy a 3200 item (53 minutes if you want the 800 souls from the egg price back) so it's not worth it imo They should increase the soul per minute to like 120 and make it start at 0.
Is Capacitor Doorman in the in?
>>559554370A character that can't ult on demand needs to be able to capitalize on her activating her ult. Being able to dive under towers early is part of that.
>>559556549>gets in your game anyway because people ban the lesser hitlers
>all these new cleanses and purges on abilities now>mfw Kelvin now shits on my whole kit
>My team watching me buy egg
>>559556376flying strike is better, its not even a slash, did they see the opportunity to make every ability end with that word without thinking?
>Kelvin nades now HALT stamina regen>Cuck beam slow is stronger with investment>Can throw nades while cuckbeamingTime to sit in thr chair in the corner carry players. No I don't care about global win rates, give me more buffs to make your game worse
>>559556376>BETTERStalkerBookwyrmPlot Armor>WorseEntangling ThornsKudzu ConnectionDust DevilFlying SlashStone Form (bring back True Form)
>>559554370They hated him because he told them the truth
Predict how low Silver's WR is going to go
>>559552542It's more useful that way desu, even on a gun build you'd want to save quantum entanglement to escap shit like lash ult or apollo's ult>t.actually plays dynamo
Ok, so imagine this scenario.You're Paradox, rite? And you go in, get the drop on the nigga, ya know, tiger style. You wall and you shoot your carbine through it.AND YOU MISSWhat more can you possibly contribute to the fight at this point?
Silence Wave is even more broken now please buy it
>Celeste barely nerfed>Silver barely nerfedI'll take apologies from all the seeker pisslows who have been seething about thrm now.
>>559554472And Grapple T5 is now useful.
>all the heroes I play got buffed
>deadflop>trannycock
>>559556945thanks for the update on your surgery
>>559556837low 60%, she's finished
>>559554407>>559555657>>559552209>>559555812It's sex.
>>559556863>Silver barely nerfednow THIS is bait
>>559556945Yes saar you voted for this saar.
>>559556352>he expected healing to be left strongfirst icefrog game?
HMVY5HMVY5HMVY5In house!!!
What did Silver do to deserve those nerfs?Her win and pickrate is about to plummet.She's not even that unique now, just a shitty brawler with an involuntary ult that might be a downgrade now over her human form lol.Yoshi what are you doing lmao.
>>559556863Silver was literally giga nerfedRemoving her innate res and MS basically kills wolf form
>>559556352Buy Divine Barrier
>>559556945Mad because your game is being mogged by valveKINO that hasn't even left closed beta lmao
>>559556991I've gotten MVP 4 times in a rowTHE TRAINING WEIGHTS ARE OFF
>>559545442>Vindicta: Fire Rate no longer scales with Spirit Power>less ammo >crow is worse now>flight is worse nowI hope the faggots that were posting shit about vindicta using a bolt action riffle, their changes to crow and to her flight get mega aids
>>559553891yes im sure it was you and not the 10s of people on reddit that suggested the idea
>>559557090She was voted for before Venator.
>>559557184you're just mad his raw genius has been immortalized
WAITWAITGUYS HEAR ME OUTECHO SHARD TORNADO MIRAGEFOUR FUCKING TORNADO NUKES FOR 300 DAMAGEYOU CAN ONE SHOT PEOPLE
>>559557090The devs FEAR her POTENTIALThey had to stop her.
>>559556352everyone builds lifesteal and it's been disproportionately efficient the game's entire lifespanwe just got out of an abrams metafuck healing
So Paige was nerfed overall?
>>559557090>Can't ult on demand>Your ult is somehow not even a flat upgrade to your usual self because it's melee /???
>>559557261>FOR THE DJINN!!!
need a deadlock duo that lets IT flop...
Fuck you now walk through the fucking door you counterspelling fucks
>>559557090>>559557118>>559557008Crying furry niggas who haven't launched the game lmaoShe's still insanely OP, your dog dick "waifu" is safeI remember when this happened with Storm Spirit in Dota, he got his first meaningful nerf ever and all the stormfaggots were dooming and refused to pick him for months and then the pros finally caught on to the fact that his aghs was better Reverse Polarity and he was winning tournaments again with zero buffs needed
>>559557261mamdani: ECHO SHARD THAT RAT, YOU HAVE FOUR DUST DEVILS
>>559557090It's likely to delete degenerate gameplay not about her being good or badThey can fix her in other ways later much like how they completely raped Mo for no reason
>>559557261he's about to be first round ban in NS in every round, he was already meta defining
>>559557359Name one OP thing about her
Everyone say thank you to Night Shift for the Silver changes! :^)
>yoshi unnerfed stone form stun time so it works off the bat with hmelee without needing to buy duration i don't even care that it's T3 now because it makes sense, this is peam as the kids say
>>559557406>They can fix her in other ways later much like how they completely raped Mo for no reasonIts funny that you think she should be overlooked on nerfs over other characters...because vibes?
lmao more apollo nerfs, i hate m1shitters so fucking much.
>celeste and warden are still cancerwhat is the point of the patch?
>Vyper completely unchangedoh no they're completely reworking her kit aren't they
>pocket buffed to not be as much of an ult bot but ALSO t3 affliction just steals shit out of your house and kicks their dogwe're back i guess
>>559557184I was literally the person who made the thread, anon
>>559557359>calls silver "still insanely OP">dotaniggerStopped reading there, you're shit at the game
>>559556538i think so, your assasinate now counts on assists and it's super generous, i have walked away after hitting and not killing and still gotten the stack
What kind of a fucking demon did they just turn Pocket into? Was the logic behind it being if Apollo can do it, so should Pocket?
classic icefrog patch, please no one, buff shit that was already OP
>>559546853its meh
>Drifter overall buffed>Rend Lifestrike synergy guttedman
>>559557593Yeah why would a mobafag know anything about mobas? What a fucking loser.
>>559554269That's what I'm doing
Patch winners? Patch losers?
>>559557603He was slightly out of the meta for a moment so that must be remedied
>>559557541Yes, and Hotpoo is in charge of it
>>559557603They wanted to punish all victor players.
>>559557541yep. also check out blood tribute it is so fucking good on her now
>Seven's T3 for Storm Cloud moved to his base Expect alot more Seven Ult builds now that they dont have to sink 5 ap just to move
>>559556127They're fucking brain dead, because that was the exact reason she could deal so much damage early game. Her base damage was never the issue, it was straight up her scaling, T2 spirit and you get 150 bite damage or something along those lines
CAN THEY PLEASE FUCKING GET RID OF THE FUCKING SCARABS ON MIRAGE ALREADYTHE MOST AWFUL FEELING SKILL IN THE ENTIRE GAME
>>559557680Silver? LostCeleste? WOn
>>559557406>It's likely to delete degenerate gameplayWhat does this even mean dude?They've had months to work her kit and settled on this, she was pretty unique but now she's just a throwpick with an ult that might be a straight up debuff
>>559552209>Ult now gives-1 staminaIf you use it as an assassin tool the enemy will probably have used 1 or 2 stamina and that -1 might make it literally impossible to check out if they didn't have 3 before you locked them up
>>559557708yov vill shvvt the gay little bvgs
>>559557685Hotpoo already made original Vyper though>>559557691Quite a few gun items I like on Vyper seem to have gotten buffed from the look of things
>>559547683i can't wait to see a paradox trying to steal rejuv only to fuck her team over
>>559557718>tattoosshe never won>BELLY tattoosunsalvageable
>unironic geist buffs without nerfing her gun build
>>559556945some ppl are transget used to it...
They fucking killed Dynamo.Why?Why?
>>559557708the functionality is fine, it's only a feeling issuethey need to redo the vfx, animation and sound
>>559557708CONSUME THEM
I feel like people are underestimating the value of the Point Blank and Stalker (Backstabber) buffs for Silver
>>559557676>"i know a moba with classic moba rts controls">"this means I'm uniquely and expertly qualified to talk about the balance changes in a new type of moba with 3rd person shooting, 3d and WASD movement and a far more advanced movement system than dota's"I say again, dotaniggerSilver is not "insanely OP" by the way you gigantic shitter.
>>559548127don't forget abrams, seven, viscous, warden and celeste
CALLING ALL WraithGAWDSHOW WE FEELING RIGHT NOW?WE GAMBAWE RUBICK LEVITATE
they turboniggerbuffed 90% of the characters in the game for some reason...
As a Paradox main(asc 4, 250 games played on her) i hate the changes. I didn't test them but I play exclusively spirit nuke on her and wall doing no damage + removal of spirit lifesteal has killed the build entirely and sucked all skillful play out of it. Being relegated to playing the dogshit point and shoot build means I'm swapping mains.
drifter status?
>krill is allowed in the tunnelsgood job suggesting this retarded shit guys
>>559557952shiternus players have spoken and supports are ONLY allowed to be cheerleaders nowyou WILL have a dead ability slot for 90% of the game and you WILL be happy about it
> Haze: Bullet Dance base ability now has 60% Evasion
>get the enemy carry with the lasso>turn back>my team is running back for literally no reason every single timeHoliday it's impossible to play i guess....
>>559558096>got a Joker in a 1v1 instantly MOGGED the hazeyeah im thinking we won LMAO
>>559557952Valve hates Reddit so Redditmo had to go
>>559558185All me
>>559558020She's made of wet paper now, she might need yet another defensive item and might have to delay getting point blank, especially if she doesn't win lane.
>Vindicta loses her T3 bonus souls on her ult >but Calico gets it on her low CD slash because DEI or some shit who tf knowsepic!
Calicos 2 finally doesn't feel ultra-fucking-terrible. They still haven't fixed the Cat urn melee though.
>>559558151yeah the hero was just killedt. 450 para games
>>559557495I don't think one necessarily should have priority over the otherSilver maybe moreso because she's new? They're clearly just testing shit. It's the same thing with Shiv being gutted even though he was only really broken in pro. Literally only took Rage scaling getting nerfed but he had to make Shiv ult one of the worst in the game. It's all just a shitshoot with Icefrog. I'm already used to it. Zoomers like you, though, aren't.
>>559557952you will not have fun. you will heal people and ult people and THAT'S IT.
>>559558151Play pocket sis, join us.
>>559558185you deserve to get raped underneath the map remtard
>:pregnant_man:
>>55955683742%, she's done for
the changes make me interested in wraith now, the ult and random cards seem fun as fuck
>>559548701>kudzuwhaat the fuck is a kudzu
>>559553726it's not exactly targeted, the dome gets created IN THE MIDDLE of you and the targetthe dream of using it as a funny gay baby jail on enemies isn't happening
>>559555449nigpollo got punished for failing the IQ check
>>559558185What's the problem? Good for another escape route. Are people unironically pretending this is just so he can molest Rem?
WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO ALL THE M1 HEROES WHAT THE FUCK
>>559557406>thinking the balance lead of dota gives a single shit about players having bad feelings when they lose
>>559558368At least there's no tranny flags
>Rem Unstoppable ult removed
>>559558283Delusional "she'll get a remodel" fags can kill themselves. There's no question that there's a remnant of Sweet Baby within the devs' consensus that she stays as she is.
>>559558485trying to make them more interesting, the horror
>>559558185I wonder what happens if he ults someone next to a vent. Does he go through? Does he pull a guy into the vents? Does he just stun him through a wall?
I am a Wraith main now.
>>559558368
New wrapper on the ground on the way into Rem's hideout? Don't recall seeing it before
>>559558414I think the blood tribute might be a good item for her too, pump cards with infinite ammo
>>559558424The vine on her hands.
KNOCKDOWN JUST PERMANENTLY STUNS PEOPLE ABUSE IT WHILE YOU CAN
>>559558283black people steal things what else is new
ok, if you pick shiv in a pub I'm reporting you
>>559549813>mina giga nerfedLMAO
>>559558582... there's no fucking way this is really in Marathon.
>>559558546uh oh chudschizo melty
>>559558626>this and golden gooseNice QC Valve
!!! REMINDER !!!IF YOU FUCKING BUY THE GOLDEN EGG IN MY GAMES I WILL REPORT YOU AND RUN IT DOWN MID AND STEAL ALL YOUR FARM AND CALL YOU A NIGGERAND IF YOU BUY THE CULTIST TOO THEN EXPECT TO GET LYNCHEDDONT BE A FUCKING NIGGER KIKE!!! REMINDER !!!
>>559558626I don't think that's true
>>559558631shieeeeeeeet this nigga got souls
>>559558353I'll pass I'll be looking at other supportive options to fill my niche. Either Paige or Vindicta or something. Paradoxs versatility is what made her fun, being forced into 1 really boring build is not.
>>559558308Not reading this lmao. See >>559554370
>>559558605BURGERMAN CONFIRMED
>>559550129>Vindicta was buffed whatshe wasn't, losing fire rate literally guts her you fag
>>559558739trying times.
>>559558185>Vyper still not allowed in the tunnelslame
>>559558739the ricing begins nowyou'd better feed at least 100k souls because that's how much I'm farming
This patch doesn't make me want to play at all.
>>559558805it lets her do damage outside flight brainlet.
>>559556991>>559557153post your builds
>none of the heroes I play got nerfedthank you yoshi
>>559558805it feels really bad.. is it worth it to buy fire rate stuff? her assassinate is gigabuffed however..
Where the fuck is gameinfo.gi I can't stand low fov
>>559558786i literally agree with you dumbfuck
>>559558815She will with the remodel. Trust.
>>559558151You will play your discount Vindicta and you're gonna like it
>>559554528you can parry guardians?
>>559558837Not for me.
I like how wholesome rem chungy wungy barely got nerfed. that's cool.
>>559558741It's not guaranteed but it does happen. Happened to me 3 times in one game you just keep falling until the unstick command works but you usualloy just die cause it's basically a mo and krill ult
>>559558739Shut up
It's pretty clear they'll let more and more characters into the tunnels, so who do you think will make the cut?
Does Vindicta's ult give stacks on assist now? Like that's what it looks like but the wording is a bit ambiguous on if it only counts if I still get the kill myself
>>559558739it honestly seems pretty good for my M&K. I don't pick this guy to deal tons of damage in lane.
>>559558943Bro you must be kidding right? Everyone does this shit like they all watched the same youtube guide.
>>559558949>>559558949>>559558949
>buffedabramsbillydrifterivygeistlashminapaigeparadoxwardenyamatocalicodynamomiragepocketsevenviscoushazeinfernuskelvinvictorvindictadoormanmcginniswraith>nerfedsilver
>>559558943and walker stomps. try it.
>>559558739>Golden Egg>Cultist Sacrifice>Tesla>Ricochetits farming time
>>559559000if you get an assist within 4 seconds of hitting somebody with ult, you'll get a stack.
>>559556376>THROWING KATZUnot anymore I guess
>>559559000yes it does and it feels very generous, any ult hit pretty much guarantees a stack if they die so you can quickscope again too and not lose anything
I recently picked up DL and cloaked in 90hrs already, maining mostly mina. I come from shooter background (OW, TF2, CS) lost first matches and got placed at initiate where I maintained rank for about 40 hours maintaining stats appropriate for that level. But now I just dominated alch 2 as seeker. I'm pushing 75% wr from past 34 matches. Evan games that seem to be lost, i win. In most cases I'm free to do whatever I want as Mina and I bring impact in late game despite being squishy afPart of it is I believe the fact that I now understand mechanics, strenghts of my hero, counter building each game etc. but I believe just as big part plays the fact that I do the damn objectives and farm on enemy's side whenever I can. There is so much chaos on these ranks that just staying consistant throughout the match, is enough to tip the scales. I wonder where my rank will settle with that recent skill spike?I'm playing with people who are on their second game overall. Who don't buy counters and opponents who don't understand that I'm is consistantly shutting them down with an item
>>559558993Sinclair rabbits should be let in
>>559559231Emiru lookin' ass.
>>559558185die you little nigger
>>559555019>dead latebut it wasn't
>>559559123they removed the voiceline..
>>559559030why would I ever watch someone else playare you some kind of cuckold gamer or something>>559559057I will thanks for letting me know
>>559558892you already had that with your ult giving you free damage retardo, now she has to waste money on oranges for fire rate while still having shit bullet velocity
>>559558920only if it gives you some other benefit like burst fire
>>559556376>Defend and Fight! -> Plot Armorshit straight from twitter
>>559546296its a support item
>>559559958bookwyrm is pretty neat doebait
the fuck does that mean?
>>559559331you say it like it's a bad thing
>>559560375ESL-kun...
>>559559614>reading comprehension
>>559554332yeah I know not gonna bother with it unless I'm a support and it's better to not get kills.
>>559548915this alone could get me to main mo and krill just so i can beat the rat to death in his safe spaces and turn him into a scarf
region lock all russians/ukrainians/belarussians
>>559560574idk i kinda enjoy the ukies and ruskis flaming eachother as soon as they hear eachothers accents
>>559560375You can now go in the thing that calico and rem can go in
>>559560574mmmm, nyo.
>- Kelvin: Arctic Beam Max Slow reduced from -40% to -20%Why are they nerfing the least played character in the game?
HMVY5HMVY5HMVY5still up sisters
>>559560743its funny tho because initially the ability doesnt last long enough to exit on other end so you get stuck
>>559559231>I recently picked up DL and cloaked in 90hrs already, maining mostly mina.Our power grows, +1 Mina player.
>gun Talon can now 100-0 you in literally less than a second when you're at equal souls
>>559561087they didnt change him at all
>>559560989You should have learned that all moba patches are just devs hitting "randomize" on all hero stats with the only exception being nerfing to the ground the one character every redditor bitches about the most.
>>559558546She's not that bad, just needs new hair.
Inhouse 9/12 need 3 new patch :) <3 HMVY5HMVY5
>>559561309post some nice 'lock feet or pits and i'll join in like 3 minutes
>>559561079She just got nerfed. How bad is it?
>>559559231>I recently picked up DL and cloaked in 90hrs already, maining mostly mina
>>559561087silver could do that last patch while you had 20k more souls than her
>>559561495She feels weaker in lane, hard to say only played her once in a custom which was a stomp. Easier to chase down though since she can't heal to full off a single camp anymore. The three dashes are going to make people seethe though.
this could be YOU
paradox is genuinely dead
>>559554370>>character that can 1v2 under enemy tower on early game gets rightfully nerfedThis was practically the only time she was a very strong character.After everyone gets their ults she falls off so fucking hard.
>>559561860She now scales off spirit more, could it be, she does overall more damage late game? She can also proc love bites more. That +1 dash seems to be all she needs to make up for the sustain nerf and she can now easily get on bridge from pit. She can dive and still have 2 dashes left for the escape.Maybe it's cope but mina could be more impactful late game at the slight expanse of laning phase
>>559563186Also to be fair, mina's lane was really good
>>559563425she was literally lane hitler
this entire patch is just mindless buffs and no addressing the gigantic fucking elephants in the room
>>559563898what is it, lil pup?
>>559559050>>buffed>Billy>Ivy>Mina>paradoxno????
>newfrens won't understand pic related
>queue at a time when russkies have gone to sleep>actually have a good time and nice games without anyone being a sperg>>559565335MIIIIINA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARIIIIIISE UPPP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERRRRVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE
sorry inhousersit was fine all morning
It's out, but I fucking hate Ivy's builds rn.https://gamebanana.com/mods/657924
>>559561838>silver could do that last patch while you had 20k more souls than herIf you walk away from the computer instead of from the wolf then yes I suppose.
>>559565958We won
>>559560574how does regions even work, I get people speaking languages from two continents over sometimes, it can't be the best server for them, I'm on 30 ping most of the time
