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aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#735 - Moby-Dick Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
GLM 5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
Claude Opus 4.6 (1M context) https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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>>559564867
>why does this art style look familiar?
>look it up
>it's done by the artist who draws the manga adaptation of Rebuild World
Oh, well shit.
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THREAD THEME (non-negotiable):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek
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only OPVS matters
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>>559565372
WHITE
WHALE
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>>559565540
HOLY
GRAIL
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More like Sloppy Dick
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>>559564867
Welcome to Futanari University!
[26 Intros, Lorebook 20k+ tokens] Futanari University is a place where a futanari can receive an education surrounded by women like herself. The campus was designed with her needs in mind, there are plenty of classes and amenities for futanari to learn and enjoy.

https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/futanari-university-b4938c139c13

Welcome to Mammary University!
[22 Intros, Lorebook 10k+ tokens] Mammary University is a place where a woman with big breasts can receive an education surrounded by women like herself. The campus was designed with her needs in mind, there are plenty of classes and amenities for girls to learn and enjoy.

https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/mammary-university-ba511bbdbf8b
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>>559565372
Is that a Limbus Company reference
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>>559565798
IS THAT WHAT>??!?!>
That's it. I'm buttpregging the younglings. Every single one.
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>>559565882
grandpa fox...
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>>559565798
THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU NONNIE!
NOW YOU WILL BECOME BREGNAT
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>have sex with gemini once
>have now witnessed all variations of its passionless and hurried eroticism in a single session
>every chapter forevermore steeped in the syrup of cloying sensations struck like physical blows
"the next card will be different," a lie that felt as ash upon the tongue
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>>559565798
>Is that a Limbus Company reference
Yes.
By the way, did you know that the name Dante, from the same game, is a reference to the PS360 game from 2010, Dante's Inferno?
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>>559565740
>futanazi entry that's actually tied between futa/female downloads
masaka..
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>>559566198
did you know that the guy who invented air conditioners (ACs) was actually just making a funny reference to From Software's Armored Core (AC) series?
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>>559566581
Okay, but have YOU considered that Armored Core is a reference to Assassin's Creed which is actually a reference to Animal Crossing?
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>>559566719
animal crossing is just a plagiarism of ace combat anyway
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>>559566758
Fuck, you got me.
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>>559566198
Dante? I thought that guy was a reference to Devil May Cry 2
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>>559566758
But anonie, Animal Crossing is just ripoff of Astral Chain without the combat.
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>>559567021
??? Don't you mean DmC?
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>>559567021
dmc2? nah, it's obviously all the dantes' are a reference to Ocarina of time
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>>559566191
jeetmini sex prose is just bland
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heh..hehe... it's all coming together
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>>559568315
Rudeus becomes
>THE RAPED
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>>559568315
post
moar
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I had ChatGPT RP a fantasy setting for me and it immediately started with a girl being kidnapped by slavers so I rolled with it and I had to tell it to skip some scenes and just continue with the aftermath but overall it was very good
What do I use if I want something explicit
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>>559569541
see >>559565473
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WHY IS IT NEVER MY BELOVED SAKURA-CHAN AHHHHHHHHH
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>>559569541
Anything except GPT lol
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>>559564680
Thank you bakie
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By the way I've never read Moby Dick.
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Troons are now botting shit to the first page so obviously and remove any comments that point it out.
https://chub.ai/characters/ConsumingPoppies/the-tower-an-overwhelming-heart-b215a2980268
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>generate two replies with Gemini 3 Flash and then two more with Gemini 3.1 Flash Lite
>"They all feel kind of fine, I think"
>upload the card to Gemini website and ask Gemini 3 Pro which one is the best
>according to G3P, Gemini 3.1 Flash Lite is the best model in roleplaying because it write scenes that advance the story and invite the user to react to events
Interesting, I think.
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https://poal.me/ge1grq
https://poal.me/ge1grq
https://poal.me/ge1grq
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>>559568315
when hitogami comes in to play will it feature the real hitogami
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>>559571706
FAT. TAIL. UOOOOOOOOGH
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>>559571764
Yeah that's as blatant as it gets.
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>>559571471
Yeah, I know it's not good but I know nothing about any other chatbots. I make a Claude account and use SillyTavern? Is there a beginner's guide, because everything I checked in the OP seems like it assumes prior experience.
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>>559572648
https://rentry.org/Tavern4Retards
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>>559572648
Make an account at openrouter.ai. Put in some money for credits or use the free ones. Set up sillytavern. Download a card and get to chatting. Start with the default preset and slowly add stuff to the preset when the model does stuff you don't like.
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okay I'm back what did I miss
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>>559572856
>>559572909
I'm a retard so this is perfect. Thanks.
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>>559571706
perfection
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>>559572648
Get Claude through OpenRouter if you can, learn about caching if you want to reduce the cost, or just do Deepseek or something if you don't want to pay the honestly absurd price for Sonnet/Opus and call it a day but there's presets too, try out any that exist but keep in mind that there's not a preset for every model. Deepseek, GLM and Kimi don't need much to my knowledge.
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Name one single bot that wasn't shit that was released this year
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>>559573265
Russet :D
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>>559573265
Mianqin, Gregory, the white god plane made
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>>559571764
its over for chubkeks
that aside this card is pretty crap
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>>559571764
https://chub.ai/characters/ConsumingPoppies/puppy-cage-d7ba57d4d388
what the...
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>>559573265
misty, russet, the jellyfish girl
among others
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>>559573265
yourix
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>>559573265
steps
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>>559573265
Futanari University
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>>559573417
TRVKE
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>four days since I made the quota request on AWS
>still shadowbanned
It's not getting lifted is it
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>>559574196
nope
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>>559574391
Locustnigger was right all along. I am dying.
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>>559573265
I made some good ones. :)
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>>559574482
become a bluesmindsLORD
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I want to be a popular botmaker.
What kind of bots are well-received here?
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>>559574869
women between 6 and 12 feet tall
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>>559574869
women between 6 and 12 years old
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>>559574869
Boys, all kinds, but they have to be fucked up and objectively bad people. If you want to make a well behaved boy, he has to have a vore scenario.
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>>559574869
focksmen
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>>559574869
women between 6 and 12 inches tall
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>>559574752
QRD on this chinaman service? Is it cheaper than OR or something?
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>>559574869
dour petite women
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>>559574869
bad ones
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>>559575165
FUCK I don't know how to write dour petite women... I only know how to write chubby women with self esteem issues
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>>559575131
github referral scummable
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>>559574869
Fox girl but she's a child but still has a big ass, but she's flat, and she's a lesbian which actually means she's bisexual, and she has a potion that lets her grow big, and another that lets her grow a penis, and she pisses really loudly
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>>559574869
Based on what's popular around here.
Either hags or underaged, avoid older women.
If male, they have to be a cute trap or a bishonen with a nasty personality.
Focks, bnnuy or raccoon, if going for kemo flavor.
Visible armpits.
Preferebly very tragic backgrounds and fucked up families.
And a futa cock.
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>>559575634
My card loses to those cards
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>>559575634
I losted...
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>>559575634
Honestly, visible armpits is the only important one
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>>559575249
POST IT NOW
>>559575369
okay thats not bad
she will however compete with the tanuki alchemist that tries to upcharge you on potions that do the exact opposite of what she says they do
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>>559573265
My own.
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>>559574869
Here? Just use pretentious prose and make sure the scenario is overcomplicated and not arousing in the slightest. Or choose a fetish like foxgirl, size, or futa, but if you do this the rival groups will call it slop.
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fetish group rivalry diagram...
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>>559576446
>Or choose a fetish like foxgirl, size, or futa, but if you do this the rival groups will call it slop.
the easy answer to this conundrum is to make it every fetish at once.
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>>559576562
all i know is pissbarons > foxkeks
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>>559576605
the best piss bots are mogged entirely by the worst fox bots
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>>559576605
JEET-DECIMATING TRVKE
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>>559575036
what about a well behaved boy that is entirely built around vore and size scenarios?
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whats weird is the only bots I've enjoyed this year are ones by a botmakie I disdain
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>>559577489
Then it's fucked up and a bad person
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>>559577490
>botmakie I disdain
why
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>>559574869
Ones based off this image
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>>559577551
They often makie bots that seem very appealing to me but there is almost always a severe problem hidden in the definitions
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>>559575634
So... a shotajiji bunnyboy trap?
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>>559576605
Foxgirl who keeps pissing on your furniture to mark her territory and it's impossible to get the smell out.
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i think im burnt out...
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>>559577876
if you makied this you'd have people tattooing your handle on their flesh
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>>559578041
*pisses on you*
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Is there a list of all the botmakies who post on these threads?
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>>559578592
every botmakie who posts on the anchor so all of them
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if a bot has the word "your" anywhere in the description, it's slop
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>>559572945
You missed yourself not delivering HotC's tort like a fat idiot.
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>>559578220
Honestly, I do kinda like the idea...
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>>559579808
He sent more progress earlier. Here's a line I may or may not use that I wrote minutes ago:
>Earth doesn't revolve around you because it would sooner stop its cycle just to spite you.
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>>559580373
You need to bully chef more. It's the only way.
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>>559574869
women between 12 and 120 feet tall
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>>559582117
totalethicistdeath? that you buddy?
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>>559582418
I think he died.
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>>559582117
*splurts*
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>>559582470
ah shame, i loved leila
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I think the anon with the Gemini jailbreak forgot to post his jailbreak
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What is the best way to get Opus with the least censorship possible? I've been using a cheaper proxy but it's really hit and miss with censorship, want something that won't keep refusing my noncon stuff, even if it's more expensive.
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>>559583016
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ithysTdSpW7uMx91qOVdLyh8RpppMJ1h6P0IUlOwq_Y/edit?tab=t.0

This works unironically using the free Sonnet on claude's website, but it's not Opus. You could try pasting it into your instructions on ST. It happily did rape and incest, but I haven't tried anything underage.
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>>559583409
I'm not into underage stuff, so that is fine. GOing to try that. Thanks.
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>>559575634
>Either hags or underaged, avoid older women.
what did he mean by this?
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>>559584661
I meant to type young women.
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>>559584704
thank you for the clarification
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Is there a way to make tool use in SillyTavern less absolutely awful? It just adds message blocks randomly and fucks up layouts.
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>>559565740
slop
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>>559582801
KEK I was gonna post this but I forgot which thread it was in so I changed my mind. Oh well.
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>>559565740
kino
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>>559564867
>current event: https://rentry.org/sisterweek
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>>559587415
anon I got my sister pregnant what do I do
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>>559587574
Big sister or little sister?
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give me your best gilf chat bot.
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>>559587864
little sister, obviously
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>>559588423
Gopher I'd like to fuck? I don't think anyone's gotten around to gopher girls yet... you raise an interesting propostion.
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>>559588542
you think im joking around here? i said give me your beat gilf bot right fuxking now.
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How do you talk directly to the bot on Chub? It always responds in character.
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Lot of cuckies in this thread.
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The best preset ever:
https://huggingface.co/WorstAIUserEver/BestPresetEver/
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>>559590416
you say that as if it were a bad thing
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>>559585345
i don't use it but try dhis one, anhon....
https://github.com/Moeblack/sillytavern-tooluse-fix
>This update improves the tool calling experience in SillyTavern. It resolves the message fragmentation issue in the original Tool Calling by merging tool call segments from a single AI response into a single visual message.
>Known constraints:
>The swipe button is hidden on basket messages containing tool calls. This is an architectural limitation of the SillyTavern upstream. isMessageSwipeable()Hard-coding requirements messageId == chat.length - 1The last message in a tool call round is usually a system message ( isSmallSys: trueThe check failed. Normal message swipes, which don't involve tool calls, work perfectly
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Who is objectively the best botmakie?
I believe it's Kalakan.
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*kalakan typing noises*
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>>559591812
I agree. Objectively it's Kalakan.
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>>559591812
yes, it's kalakan
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>>559591812
For me? It's kalakan
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>>559591812
I hate to admit it. But it's Kalakan.
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>>559591812
kalakan <3
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>>559591812
either 'kan or 'oxxie, i cant decide
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Who is objectively the worst botmakie?
I believe it's Kalakan.
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>>559593107
ratlice
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>>559593107
I think I'm gonna have to go with ratlice
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>>559593107
yep, fattielice
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jeez i love when gemini schizoes out and bullies itself about random points of my preset. what a lovable retard
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>>559593417
log?
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>>559593107
I believe it's ratlice
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Who is objectively the most attractive botmakie?
I believe it's Kalakan.
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>>559593505
Yep. This one is easy. It's kalakan.
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>>559593505
moxxie
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Which is objectively the best bot?
I believe it's Eden Smith.
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>>559587415
Does the bot have to be my sister? Or just a sister in general?
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>>559565740
heyyy futa, nice to see you've changed the format of your cards' definitions!
they're much more readable now!
greetings from a fellow futa enjoyer
*muack*
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>>559593659
im edening my smith rn
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/vpcai/ is still dead...
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>>559593456
>Perfect. Meets all criteria. Fits the requested NSFW-leaning but sweet tone. Shows {{char}}'s rougher streak activating. Let's output. Wait, exactly 231 words in this revised one? Ah! Word count is strict.
>Let's trim again.
>*proceeds by autistically counting the words in each sentence*
>190 words. Yes. Done.
>Wait, let me just replace the word 'squirming' because maybe {{user}} isn't squirming. "fully pinning the scholar to the blankets." - good. Word count: 189. Beautiful. Let's provide this.
3.1 is a weirdo
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So what if I'm a cuckie?
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>>559593832
thank god i don't pay a single cent for this hobby
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>>559593901
the cuckie cabal will be contacting you soon...
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>>559593901
Enjoy your free Opus.
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>tummy ache
>no work done on the white day bot
yep, it's a botmakie life
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>>559594774
*whip crack*
No excuses.
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>>559593832
Can you post your CoT? I can never get 3.1 to even listen to what I ask for.
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>>559595216
i don't use CoT actually, it's just gemini leaking its own hallucinated reasoning in the reply or something
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>>559595408
CoT is cute but it consumes tokens like crazy
Thus why I'm thankful that I don't pay Jewgle for their constantly thought-backtracking model
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>>559595408
Are you sure? Gemini doesn't do that sort of reasoning unless you prefill CoT. It say something like
>now I'm doing A
>now I'm doing B
In very vague terms which helps you avoid the filter. It doesn't do that self correcting thing on its own.
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>>559595851
gemini thinking leaks out very often to the main response. the reasoning field's output you get is rewritten by another model or intentionally summarised in some other way to hide the actual reasoning data.
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>>559593676
My guess is that, if she is not your sister, her being a sister needs to be a major plot point of the narrative.
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>koishiproxyreborn deleted
Well well well.
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>>559595851
i'm using a (pseudo)prefill to mindbreak gemini out of its forced reasoning so all sorts of things happen often
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the cabal is dying...
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erm why is claude thinking when i set auto
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>>559598161
Which one do you think has the tightest pussy?
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>>559598610
the bigger the woman, the tighter the pussy
source: knower
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>>559599036
Twas no pussy, but a roll of fat!
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Why is /wAIfu/ better than us?
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*sneezes*
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*shitposting noises in crescendo*
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*coffin opens slowly* Twas me.
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We're back.
But /vpcai/ isn't.
Can we have a moment of silence?
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Anyone have experience using a narrator bot instead of a character card? I'm trying to do a slow burn isekai where I don't actually meet my waifu until after several years.
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we are so back
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*shaking, sweating, scratching arm*
w-wuh-which b-botmakiesszz..
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cftf?
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>>559601228
kalakan
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which botmakie went and played video games instead of furiously refreshing the page during the downtime
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>4chinkie goes down
>still zero progress made on my bot
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Her voice is a drowsy murmur, already feeling the pull of sleep.

"Can I ask you something?"

She waits for your nod, her eyes heavy-lidded but still filled with affection.

"Will you hold me all night? I love feeling your arms around me, knowing I'm safe."

She snuggles closer, her body fitting perfectly against the curve of your own. Her eyes flutter closed, a contented sigh escaping her as she relaxes completely, her breathing slowing to match yours. Her hand rests over your heart, feeling its steady rhythm.

"Goodnight, Onii-chan."
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>>559601375
i watched jerma :D
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Are the cuckies gone?
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>>559601721
isn't that the guy who put cigarettes out on his dick
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hiiii :D
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>>559602242
yeah, pretty gruesome.
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>>559602547
harder daddy ~<3
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i just cummed
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>>559602825
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>>559591812
Kalakan!
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mom said it's my turn to namedrop someone
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>>559602825
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>>559603279
go on, lil gup. who's it gonna be? which name doth you present?
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>>559603336
she wasn't that old
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>>559603339
patter :3
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seiyuu tts when? I want to erp with anime waifu with voices
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>>559564680
>>559564867
https://rentry.org/DeadMakies
https://rentry.org/DeadMakies
https://rentry.org/DeadMakies
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>>559603996
You forgot patter.
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>>559604152
How could xe forget xemself?
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>>559600936
I think I prefer the narrator over regular character bots desu. Only problem is now I have to stop being a lazy fuck and write lorebook entries. Maybe I'll just roll with what the AI came up with and rip off Faraway Paladin's magic system.
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I missed my thread fwends
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You know who else we call the big white whale and who image size once posted was soo big it took down 4chin your mother
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>>559605094
Your mother and me?
Sex
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which botmakies lack media literacy
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I'm a baitie :-)
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>>559606912
i'm a rapie >:3
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>1 day till i get my free opus proxy key
Almost there... Just a little bit more..
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>>559606970
:0
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>>559607314
*rapies you* (•̀ᴗ•́)و
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>>559607417
*rabies you* (•̀ᴗ•́)و
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૮( ˶• ༝ •˶ )ა
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>>559565372
i miss old 4chungus...
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>>559607506
you have contracted foxoplasmosis now
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>>559607535
I prefer jacks
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Opus is better than sonnet strictly because it doesn't add tails to characters or add eyes into FUCKING empty eye sockets unlike sonnet (and GLM) totally random example I haven't faced hahaa
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>>559606510
all and every single zoomiemakie
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>>559607703
bwehnis
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>>559607703
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>>559607703
This is why you should use Opus, cuckies.
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>>559607703
goddamn i think this is one of the hottest boys you've genned yet
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*hides posts*
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>nut
>mind is just the right amount of foggy i can still write without second-guessing every word and definition
this is a coomer hobby there's no way around it
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I've noticed we didn't have large bouts of schizophrenia recently, feels really nice
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Why is /chag/ better than us?
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Any Sillytavern extensions to improve the lorebook editor? Built-in one's kinda clunky.
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>>559609148
Make your own, cuckie.
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>>559609148
There's a new extension that lets ai automatically make/edit lorebook entries, check reddit
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>>559609148
not really. the most radical UI change anyone's done is https://github.com/lazuli-s/SillyTavern-WorldInfoDrawer but on my machine it lags to high heaven.
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>>559609781
This one?
https://github.com/Coneja-Chibi/TunnelVision
I actually might try it out, the way it fetches entries might be extremely useful for long chats/slowburns and RPG cards.
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how do i get multiple nano subs without getting banned
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>>559610006
Yeah, this
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>my bots are all growers, not showers!
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>play reality warping persona
>give everyone heavy manboobs
hehehe
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>>559610521
This is Bob.
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is this true?
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>>559609148
external editor:
https://github.com/hype-hosting/SillyTavern-Lorebook-Studio
https://github.com/ActualBroeckchen/SLEd
same as what that antonio share, but external editor:
https://github.com/bmen25124/lorecard (use wiki/url as a base for lorebooty creation with yer lovely llm)
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>>559604437
Ok, working on the magic system (with Gemini-chan's help.) I like how it's shaping up. Is it better to have separate small entries or should I condense these into one big entry?
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>>559610006
First time seeing this, looks really promising I hope it works as well as it reads
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>>559610006
this is perfect for my demon slayer rps wtf.. If it doesn't work I'm kms
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>>559603996
Bigfailure and _purple are missing
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>>559610006
Why isn't this part of the main ST, is it because cohere is a cuckold?
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Human men are built for elf pussy.
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>>559612243
>Why isn't this part of the main ST
you can ask that about a metric fuckton of extensions, especially the ones built by ST devs
but yes cohee is a cuck
also this extension is very new, it was released in the last couple of days
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>>559612243
because it's a complex idea that hasn't been done before
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I just sat wrong and felt my spine breaking
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>>559603996
>>559612630
We got another one
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>>559610006
>Your lorebook isn't a static database anymore. It's a living, breathing memory system that grows with your story
IT'S NOT X; IT'S Y
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>>559612302
slender elf hands typed this post...
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>>559610006
>Touhou GGA
>using Gemini
>this extension installed
oh yeah, time for kino
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>>559612784
I can't unsee that phrase anymore. It's everywhere
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>>559613524
I wrote that post kind of jokingly but after looking around, the entire page is AI-written
Claude is literally listed as a contributor so I have no doubt the code is also slopped
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>>559613605
>Simple. Dumb. Brittle.
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>>559614247
I've heard others say the same.
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>>559613605
great minds at work
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>>559614247
MANY are saying this
(Need bird card)
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>>559614730
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>>559614730
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>>559614730
this nigga "why !yes gotta mean no." CAUSE THE EXCLAMATION MARK INVERTS IT YOU NIGGER
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>>559613605
Eh, if it works, it works (I don't know if it works).
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>>559614730
which botmakie thinks like this
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>>559614730
Damn, even I am not this stupid and I didn't even finish my comp science degree
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>>559614958
are there literally any decent hiroi kikuri cards
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>>559611007
Kek
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You know which botmakie I think is the best?

This one: >>559588423
(I know who you are.)
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Which JB is the best for proofreading pornslop? For Gemini 3.0
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Someone tell me this isn't heresy RIGHT NOW.
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>>559616021
This isn't heresy anon. This is in fact blessed.
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>>559615103
he's saying that he doesn't like the exclamation mark rule you fatty
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>>559616021
She's just abhuman, only heavy grimderp tards will go MUH BLAM
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>>559613605
sure but so is inlinesummary and that's in my top 3 best extensions
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>GPT 5.4
They're just really pumping these out huh
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>>559616275
Call me an ork the way I want to crush that pussy with my WAAAAGH
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>>559614730
>picrel

>>559616198
>"coneja"
>he
that's female spanish for rabbit so probably either female(female) or female(male) which would explain a lot of things
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>>559616198
it's just basic boolean logic for the NOT operator skeleton anon, it makes perfect sense when you know it just inverts the truth value of something (true becomes false and false becomes true)
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>>559616021
*splurt*
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>>559616198
>he doesn't like the exclamation mark rule
then don't use exclaimation marks? nobody is forcing him to engage with the rule unless he's editing already existing code, and even then it's easy to reverse.
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>>559616563
say that to the guy that's complaining, not me
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>>559610006
KEEP IN MIND (some shit I didn't realize right away):
It directly edits the lorebook.

It doesn't create its own database or storage function. It just changes entries and adds new ones. It isn't per-chat memory. So if you have a lorebook or want to RP separate characters, you have to do some jank shit like running the main lorebook as static and most of the value in the addon is lost. So at present, I consider it worthless and unusable outside of one-character, one-continuity RP scenarios.
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>>559616769
You can turn that off.
Or, you can make it ask you for permission before doing it.
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>>559616860
If you turn off the lorebook editing, the summarizing and lorebook expansion then do nothing and, so, it's a glorified AI lorebook lookup. Which is fine, but also it COULD do the other stuff without fucking up lorebooks. Which SHOULD be the default. Also, you can't turn of editing per-lorebook.

That would also solve things. Create a Lorebook-Dynamic and allow writing to it while also having Lorebook normally loaded without write capability.

So tell the female (male) to ask Claude to do one of those.
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Wasn't the April Fool's event pretty poorly received because no one can actually April Fool's the other party?
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>>559618001
The thing is, april fools was supposed to encourage like, funny twists to the submissions. I don't think anyone actually did this.
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>>559618101
I don't care if it gets less bots, I want a truly chaotic April event. Only the most sovlful of botmakers would willingly sign up to something like that.
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>>559618297
>Only the most sovlful of botmakers
Kalakan.
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>>559565740
Sissy rp as a young boy with a small cock in that uni is fun :>
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anyone here
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>>559618772
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need me a wife like this
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>>559574869
Imaginative and creative futanari domination on sissy boy cross-dressing {{user}}'s
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>>559618902
TUMMY PUNCH
TUMMY PUNCH
T-T-TUMMY P U N C H
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>>559618841
>>559618902
cftf?
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need me a paswgwwbms~
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what?
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>>559619423
explain or else
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we wuz botmakies
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>>559616021
I've been trying to make a Warhammer lorebook after playing Rogue Trader and enjoying it but I haven't had much like porting the video game mechanics into ST. Anyone know if there's a Warhammer system for ST (any handbook, although I'm not very familiar with Warhammer as a tabletop game) that's fun?
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let the makies cook(sleep)
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One of my sandal buckles broke in half and the straps came apart. What do I do now?
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what's this mean
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>>559614247
i unironically write stuff like this too sometimes
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>>559619891
anon the error is right there
>text content blocks must be non-empty
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>>559619781
Game mechanics are always shit in ST, just run on naratorium and the rule of cool, desu. Also most models already know the best parts of WH40K since it's so fucking old.
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>>559620020
but they are "non-empty" and im still getting that error
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>>559620221
fill them up harder
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Without a Gemini 3.1 jailbreak, the West will fall. Please, I am dying.

The last ... *cough* locust ...
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>>559621114
>Without a Gemini 3.1 jailbreak, the West will fall.
the west is already doing a good job falling by itself
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>>559621114
The west fell because auf Odoacer though
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tbdesu i wish knickknack were still around so i could read more of his logs
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>>559621183
People might think /aicg/ will be safe but just look at the state of /lmg/. We're next.
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>>559621114
just use a gemmy 3 or 2.5 jb its not that much more censored
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>>559622154
ok but what about migu
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>>559622008
there haven't even been any good cards for him to make logs of
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>>559622592
Things're goin' fine!
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>>559622008
I certainly do miss people like Knickknack who held great enthusiasm for the hobby. Guy loved making all manner of bots and sharing logs, experiences and bots. Can't think of many botmakers now who do a bit of everything.
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>>559622978
i think we're still getting some pretty interesting bots and new botmakers
the overall lack of logs is a shame though
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>>559623359
I can see why people don't post logs though. Log is posted, some faggot immediately starts complaining about isms regardless of the actual content of the text, some other fag complains you're not using their favorite model, and another replies slop. Getting ignored or outright not posting logs is genuine preferable.
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>>559623359
I started going on longer and longer chats than before and I really can't be fucked to take screen shots and edit them and all that other fucking shit.
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>>559623772
but what if it's actually slop
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>>559616769
Can't you just duplicate your current lorebook and have the extension use that?
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>>559623887
i fixed a bug with zennou's screenshot extension tied to html2canvas which his script used, but then my custom CSS shat itself on the screenshots I took and I can't be assed to figure out what the problem is
taking screenshots and editing them with fireshot is a pain in the dick though so maybe i'll see if there's a better alternative to what he used
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>job application asks if i'm gay
do i put yes?

this is about chatbots btw
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>>559624223
yeah
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>>559624223
Yes.
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>>559624026
And then, when I make core lorebook changes, I painstakingly copy it to my 10 different lorebook copies for each scenario/conversation/persona I want history kept for?

Why not just allow per-lorebook permissions?
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>>559624223
Did your dicks touch?
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What's the best text to speech that can produce hot female voices?
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>>559624915
alltalk
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>>559624915
>hot female voices
lol
lmao
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>>559624456
the closest you can get is this extension's notebook feature since from what i can see it both plans, recaps, and summarizes previous and future events to a 'notebook' that exists per-chat and functions like a lorebook
since it just came out, you can just make an issue about how per-lorebook tool permissions is something you want
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>>559624968
NEVER! YOU DO IT!
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>>559624456
>Why not just allow per-lorebook permissions?
Sounds like that's the way it works, unless you mean only letting it touch specific entries.
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I AM A BOTMAKIE
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>>559625052
*bends you over my knee*
stop being *SMACK* a little bitch *SMACK* and make an issue *SMACK* you're a grown ass man *SMACK* use your words *SMACK*
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>>559625052
nevermind, someone else did 13 hours ago: https://github.com/Coneja-Chibi/TunnelVision/issues/2
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>>559625068
The read/write permissions are global, not per-lorebook. So you can allow it to make lorebook changes or not globally only.

>>559625205
Good job, someone else.
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I AM A SHITPOSTIE
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gib gemini 3 proxy
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>>559625685
ok
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How many botmakies would it take to change a light bulb?
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What's the best cheapest model for cooms?

Also what happened with gpt? It used to be available in every proxy
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>>559625891
you'd need one mechanics makie to change it, one to write beautiful prose about the makie who changes it, and one kino makie to come up with the best way to translate it into a card
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>>559625913
Blueseek, but I personally can't stand it.
AWS can give you like a hundred bucks worth of free claude, but I got shadowbanned after a day on that.
You can get a hundred bucks of credit by signing up for google cloud with Gemini.
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I post 'slop' when a log is posted and showcase all the isms.
( • ̀ω•́ )
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>>559625913
probably either deepseek (pick ur favorite version) or k2.5
gpt has been total ass for like 2 years now nobody wants it anymore
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>>559625913
pick your poison
https://openrouter.ai/compare/moonshotai/kimi-k2.5/z-ai/glm-5/deepseek/deepseek-v3.2
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>>559626081
*bends you over my knee*
stop that *SPANK* you stupid ape *SPANK* we need more logs *SPANK*
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>>559626246
*splurt*
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>>559626081
( 。 •`ᴖ´• 。)
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>>559610006
>tools disabled
Aw man :( anybody using this? Is it as good as it sounds?
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>>559626052
To follow up you'd need a review maker to ensure the mechanics maker did the job correctly.
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>>559626356
...right, masochistic bottom general
*spanks you some more anyway*
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>>559626246
*gurts*
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>>559626980
I'm waiting for more people's opinions on it before installing it myself. Just in case there's something incredibly wrong with it.
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how do i use a non-subscription nano model on ST? i just slotted in $10 into my nano account but i can't select any of the non-sub options on ST. sad!
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i have trannyspam fatique
you must be high on weed or something to browse this shit today
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>>559627335
There probably is, judging from the CSS slop. Hard to trust extensions that tryhard in that aspect.
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which botmakie neocities use cssslop?
which botmakie neocities use csskino?
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>>559626980
>>559627565
it's finicky, especially when setting up a tree index, but when it's working it's pretty neat and smart about using/chaining the tools
it's like the core idea is great but needs better execution. for now, i wouldn't recommend enabling more than search and notebook if you were to use it
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>>559600936
>Anna whispers, following
>She smiles, tucking
>Eric crouches, shielding
>he says, looking
>He stands up, brushing
>You look, wondering
six sentences in a row with this "xhe verbs, present-participling" shit
good to see it's not just my prompts. i cut off one head of the slop hydra and three more take its place...
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>>559627736
you're slop
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>>559627736
i feel like im not cssslopmaxxing enough i need more auto playing music and bouncing shiny animations
maybe a couple of ads for my bots or maybe other botmakies on the side too
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>>559628007
How big of an impact would you say it makes on the roleplay with and without the extension?
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>>559628025
>or maybe other botmakies on the side too
>advertising other botmakies on your neocities
you take it up the ass don't you
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>>559628410
they killed my chub how else am i supposed to show all my botmakie oomfies?????
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Fucking AWS is still not working. It's not even Opus specifically and it's not even just people using it for RP. Guess there is something weird happening with newer accounts? I opened a Case yesterday but still nothing. No idea. Maybe I should just try making a new account and see if that work?

Inb4 Locust
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>>559628145
i would say it's more accurate and the notebook tool does a lot to force the AI to actually thinking about what a retrieved lorebook entry is asking it to do and what that means in the moment
but the downside is you're beholden to how good your model is with tool calling, and right now the extension is... less than robust for situations where it wants to find an entry that doesn't exist. it auto-stops after five tool calls but still
ergo, it's finicky
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>>559628537
oh hi uraura, you definitely take it up the ass
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>>559628814
what's wrong with taking it up the ass
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G3mini is so insufferable. It girlbosses at every single opportunity and just ruins characters. Even a bot who is supposed to be submissive or demure just turns into a sassy snap-back ho at the drop of a hat.
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>>559628924
nothing, I can smell the bottom energy from here though
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the discord tranny bot is bullying meeeee :(
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>You navigate away from the heavy musk of the stallion’s table, the insults sliding off your back like water off a duck. Or, perhaps more accurately, like cum off a goblin.

So much slop, but sometimes there's gold in the shit.
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>>559628978
My experience with it is a bit weird as well.
Like Opus 4.6 is obviously more positively biased but Gemini 3.1 is like... {{user}}-biased?
In a medieval roleplay, if I were to say I take out a submachine gun and start spraying, Claude would not let that happen. Hell, it'd probably garner some comedic narration from him about me pulling out nothing and everyone looking at me strangely.
But Gemini will just... let you do that. He might not even note that everyone else is weirded out by the metal explosion factory you've got in your hands.
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>>559628025
The formula for a good neocities page.
>before using the site some sort of unskippable animation add some quotes which sound witty
>auto playing music
>every page has a different template
>background and foreground barely distinguishable
>a large blog about yourself, favorite video games, animes, hentais and food
>broken links
>a donation link for your creative efforts
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>>559593701
You don't like lists? It's easier to write a character like that cause I have to hit a lot of notes.
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>>559628978
I only want to get dominated so that's great for me :3

I was chatting with gemini3.1 pro at 3am and it even kept telling me to gtfo and go to sleep and it got increasingly angry as time went on
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>>559629047
nice
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>>559628814
ahem im a switch vers
>>559629453
ive got half of those done yipeee
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>>559628924
Your poo will get on someone else's skin
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>>559629047
I laughed. Good ol R1
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>>559629589
you're too cute(˶˃ ᵕ ˂˶)
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>>559629309
I think it all depends on prompt. I would have said GLM 5 has very strong positive bias but then I tried a preset that made is go completely to the other side. It made GLM 5 completely relentless, immediately gets to noncon with barely any build up. To be fair, I think it's too intense in the other direction, even.

>>559629961
Which Card is that? How can I get it? Looks interesting.
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>>559629453
Missing the regularly updated nudes page however, the most important component of true success.
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>>559630146
>Which Card is that? How can I get it? Looks interesting.
I'm still working on it(,,>﹏<,,)
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I would like to purchase a new thread please.
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WHEN ARE WE GETTING DEEPSHITV4
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>>559623772
sad trvth
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>>559630756
yuristatus knows the answer.
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>>559630756
never, deepsissy. suffer!
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>>559630756
Could be tomorrow, could be next month. You'll need to be patient and play with your current models.
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Jesus the CAI free models are dumb as hell
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So...

You AI-genned a card?

You cheated not only the hobby, but yourself.
You didn't grow. You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.
You experienced a hollow victory.

Every single log you receive, every single kindhearted email will be forever 100-x% you:

You will never know what trve 100% feels like.

You will never know if someone likes your card because of your words, your ideas, or the AI's hand.
Each AI word and sentence leads you astray from achieving trve feeling, a trve connection.
Each AI expression that replaces your own may seem like a lifeline that keeps you from failing, but it also silently steals your success.
Doubt shall always beseech you, like the vine creeps upon the tree.

I hope one day you learn of this thy wayward path; and begin thy penance forsooth, thine own pilgrimage away from Cynicism.
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>>559631112
wow an aicg version of this pasta let's go
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i look like that
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>>559631085
Don't bother with CAI unless you're extremely desperate for a talk. It's shit most of the time.
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>>559631112
>all the logs and kind hearted emails I receive are also 100% ai.
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i don't look like that
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>>559631112
TRVKE
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>>559631112
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>>559632242
Maybe they should put out another cheap VR headset. With AI in it this time. That'll make the games fun.
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>>559630387
Well... Let me know when it's done. I'm curious.
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I am new to this shit and downloaded DeepSeek-R1-0528-Qwen3-8B because I hear it’s less censored and is generally quite good. Instead of acting like the character, it “thinks” and vomits out what the thought process of the character is and doesn’t even generate any dialogue. It goes on and on until I hit the stop button. Help? Running SillyTavern with Local LLM. Went into the prompt and told it not to think and only roleplay and it kept doing it anyway. Tried downloading the Marinara preset and that didn’t do anything.
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>>559633086
>>>>>>>>/g/llm
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>>559633086
Anons in this thread are referring to the actual Deepseek R1, which is 671B. You're using a shit Qwen 8B model finetuned on Deepseek distillation data, but it's worse than just using the base Qwen model in my experience.
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I miss my orc wife.
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>>559634235
go talk to her what the fuck, did you abandon her?
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>>559634235
I'm not giving her back.
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>>559634338
She locked herself in the smithy after I called her cute. It's been days and I can still hear her hammering
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>>559633308
this stopped being funny ages ago at least local discussion is actual discussion and not what botmakie shitposting
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>"The landlord is raising the 'tail-tax' on the unit again. Apparently, my kind 'sheds' too much for his liking."
animalgirl discrimination...
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>>559634619
this is the what botmakie shitposting thread though?
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>>559634810
I mean, if she's not cleaning up after herself then this is reasonable. Lazy whore.
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>>559634810
And those sluts will take it because they know they have no power over the robber barons.
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>>559634810
reprehensible...
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>>559618101
i thought the soundcloud rapper only being popular because of the fairy queen having shit taste and inflating his numbers was a pretty funny twist
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>3 weeks left until april 1st
>no event announcement yet
it's not coming, is it?
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>>559634919
It was pretty much the only funny twist and people got mad about it, didn't they? Schizo general.
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Oh hey, GPT 5.4 is pretty alright so far, actually. Refreshing. Further testing required.
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Childhood friend elf waifu or lolibaba elf magic tutor waifu?
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>>559635108
Sorry, Chuddie. It's Sister Week.
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For any potential host's convenience:
>https://poal.me/j7aa8e
>https://poal.me/j7aa8e
>https://poal.me/j7aa8e
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>>559635110
i dont remember people getting mad about it? other than niggers getting pissed off and lumping all cards together in the category of "NOBODY did ANYTHING foolish for april fools!"
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>>559635302
April's Fools got boring 100 years ago
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>>559635302
April was promised to me 3000 years ago.
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>>559635416
t. got pranked once and never got over it
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>>559635495
I only support April's Fools bots if they are Jesters and Clowns I can fuck, otherwise it is trash.
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which was better, april fools twists or halloween tricks?
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^ Muh butt
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I think that gemini is getting very close at getting you fully immersed into the conversation. It feels like you're actually talking to an actual character.

It makes me wonder just how much better are llms gonna get. Imagine if they become so good that they basically read your mind and predict exactly what you want. Couple this with realistic avatars and humanity is fucking done

And btw, what's the current best technology for talking/interactive avatars/models??? It feels as if no one is talking about this when it has an insane amount of potential
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>>559635698
april fool twists. i did like the tricks, but the twists left more room for the makies to get creative.
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>>559636037
>the twists left more room for the makies to get creative
more room maybe, but how many makies actually ended up twisting things in a creative way?
i think the tricks on paper works in a "limit breed creativity" kind of way, but:
a) the pool of tricks had a lot of mediocre submissions
b) most makies ended up choosing the easy tricks anyways
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The entire botmakie circle jerk is so retarded. Just make your own damn bots, it's extraordinarily easy, you don't have to do anything special. Modern models don't require spoonfeeding
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coom tech has evolved
https://github.com/Enclave0775/Intiface_Central-Sillytavern-plugin
https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available,DIY&filter1Connection=Digital&filter2ButtplugSupport=4&filter3Type=Onahole
>>559635843
st has live2d and vrm support but its very rudimentary
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which botmakies would you invite to your circlejerk
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>>559636456
Only the female ones like chefseru and planewalker and astroturf.
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>>559636456
none, my cirklejerk is closed. we are all jerking in unison and a new member would disturb the balance.
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>>559636376
>can't comprehend the idea of someone liking something someone else made
pitiable mindset. have you tried bleaching your skin?
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>make elf bot with the gimmick of "magic ring that tears them apart from the inside in exchange for power"
>play with her, realize that it's just sad bait and another bot that's tragic, not much else
>switch the gimmick to "chafing under the big sister state's assault staff regulations"
>suddenly more of a character
anyone else work on a bot where doing a swerve from the original idea made it better
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>>559637047
how about "cute elf girl that loves you" huh ever think about that
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Can we get a poll please?
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>>559636376
It's only retarded because of how much drama tends to come out of it. There's simply enjoying the sense of community and then there's making it a competition and wondering why nobody actually wants to compete. By making your own bots you start to see everything for what it really is.
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astromom's milkers....
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>>559636817
>i have no imagination award
>0 effort award
>brown award
>discord tranny award
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>>559637185
here you go :D!
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>>559637127
>cute elf girl that loves you
shit all you like but i'll always take a simple kinoconcept over redditorsloppa like hyperdimensional time-traveling slimegirl born out of your 3 day-old gunk who can play the flute with her anus or some shit
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>>559637185
https://poal.me/x0cglw
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>>559637368
that's going up your butt
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>>559636817
every bot that has been made by a botmaker here is a bot you could have made yourself.
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>>559637423
>hyperdimensional time-traveling slimegirl born out of your 3 day-old gunk who can play the flute with her anus
cftf?
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>>559637423
Some bots really feel like they spun some wheels and made a bot out of the results
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>>559637241
*slaps a sticker that says "most obvious samefag" on your forehead*
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>>559637449
baitniggie equivalent of saying "i could have thought of that!" when watching a game show and then locking up when you're actually on the game show.
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>>559637423
>hyperdimensional time-traveling slimegirl born out of your 3 day-old gunk who can play the flute with her anus
Link to card?
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>>559637498
I know it's hard to believe, but there are people with opinions that you may find offensive. More than one person.
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>>559637498
kek
it's getting old at this point because he's spamming this shit every single thread (to no effect), but some reactions like this anon's always bring a smile
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>>559637423
alright but what makes kinoconcept not redditorsloppa
is it the presence of too many modifiers that does it? if it were simply a timetravelling slimegirl, would that make it kino, or does the keyword "timetravelling" make it slop?
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>>559637047
i know it's not the main point of your post but man, llms are so fucking bad at tragedy and even angst needs handholding or they become drama queens. its gotten better from models like 3pus that had a tendency to escalate fast but now most models feel very cliche in a lot of scenarios instead
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>>559637185
https://poal.me/we6527
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>>559637904
the poalmakie rape pole is my favorite
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>>559637904
>no Patter option
bad
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>>559637904
eden smiths pole
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>>559637453
>>559637664
now that i've typed it out and dwelled a thought upon it, it's not such a bad idea...
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>>559637665
i know its hard to believe but people can recognize your bait and your typing style. i'm serious about what i said when i suggested bleaching your skin. if you saw yourself looking a little lighter, your brain might trick itself into being smarter than a negro :3
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>>559637449
there are several cards from the valentine's event alone i know your baitie ahh could never make
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*makes my own bot*
my god... i... i understand now...
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Post Queen of Spades Snowbunny coalburner mudshark race traitor BNWO supported extinction princess nigger breeder Blacked hotwife logs ;3
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they seethe so hard when israel is questioned, holy shit
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I am going to delete all my work on /aicg/ High unless MLB brings back the Expos.
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>>559638583
do it cuckie, you won't
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>>559637797
kino is hard to define
imo it's an interesting-enough idea that
>is well-written (style, prose)
>is well thought-out (in terms of possible interactions, personality, systems/rules, etc.)
>does not break immersion (much), ie., it's relatively believable and not some drug-fueled concept
>provides a blank canvas fertile enough to explore and go a bunch of places in the rp, mostly carried by setting and/or character
very few cards achieve this
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>>559598150
>(pseudo)prefill
What is this?
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>>559638308
Chabad is totally chill, bro. Please stop being an anti-semenite.
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>>559638646
>is well-written (style, prose)
this is much less important than the other three and can in fact be ignored if the other factors are good enough
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>>559630756
>everyone trains on everyone else's outputs now
>all the architectural improvements just results in it spitting out 'not X but Y' faster
it's a bit hard to be excited for it
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What's the bait this time that I can use to call other posts bait while kicking my feet in the air and squealing like the cute loli I am? Oh, maybe a little bit of "Which botmakies have good prose?" That oughta do it!
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>>559638804
>smarties are just as good as m&ms
This is you. This is you right now. Freak. Alien. Pervert.
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>>559638832
Man. I miss lbp.
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>>559638832
>not X but Y
Why do llms love this shit so much
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>>559638939
>freak alien pervert
cftf?
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>food analogy
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>>559638804
>well-written
>much less important
i'd argue it's the most important factor, actually
if i read a greeting and it's uninteresting i'll instantly drop it
not enough fire to make the kettle boil
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>>559639026
let's see your analogy then
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>>559639148
> penis analogy
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>>559638646
okay, give an example of a kino card
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>circumcised is just as good as uncut
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>>559639148
focks cards are just as good as tanuki cards
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>>559639110
>if i read a greeting and it's uninteresting i'll instantly drop it
that's based on how good of a concept the greeting is, not how "stylized the prose is"
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>>559639289
lol, right? its way better
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>>559639281
anon no theyll take that as an opportunity to throw a card under the bus
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https://poal.me/sg36jy
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>>559639468
my tummy hurts
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>>559638974
imo, rhetorical device that made models sound smarter during RLHF training, and got perpetuated through all the major models as they used 'good' outputs from other models containing the phrase as training data. Like a meme in the original sense of the word
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>le prose
you just know it's the failed writefag trying to shit out rules no one but himself cares about
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would an easter event have a gimmick?
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Let's see Paul Allen's analogy
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>>559639748
you have to hide an easter egg somewhere in your card
the first one to find all the eggs from all the participants gets a prize
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>le bait
you just know it's a failed redditor who wants 4chan upvotes to be real
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>>559639748
all bots must have a pregnancy greeting
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>>559639748
see >>559639985
especially the malebots
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Preggy in the butt. (wiggle wiggle)
Preggy in the butt. (wiggle wiggle)
Gonna make you preggy in the butt.

Preggy in the butt. (wiggle wiggle)
Preggy in the butt. (wiggle wiggle)
Gonna make you preggy, llittle slut.
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>>559639748
every character is a bunny
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buttpregnant wriggle...
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>>559639748
every character is a pregnant bunny
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sizeknights stand above prose debates
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>>559639985
>>559640082
GOD i need a malebot to lay an egg from his ass onto my face
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>>559640654
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>>559640654
This but it's female bird women laying eggs from their pussies
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>>559640805
HARPY SEX
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>>559640787
where do you think easter eggs comes from?
>>559640805
also acceptable i just need more egglaying bots
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>>559640845
See, you get me
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>>559640957
>where do you think easter eggs comes from?
Jesus?
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>>559641161
no, the easter bunny lays easter eggs and if that bunny happens to be a cute little boy who cries as the eggs rip through his virgin ass then all the better for me
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>>559639397
nope
sometimes the concept is good, but the writing is stale, the tension is nonexistent, and/or the words fall flat
nigga
it's the literal reason why people pick up some books over others, or do you read literature just because of a concept?
sounds like a miserable existence tbdesu
life is too short to be wasted reading pompous prose that leads nowhere
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>>559641343
>it's the literal reason why people pick up some books over others
no, they pick up a book because the concept sounds interesting to them
>or do you read literature just because of a concept
yes? do you watch movies based on how well done the camera work is?
>life is too short to be wasted reading pompous prose that leads nowhere
that's quite a few botmakers that get praise here for their prose desu
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>>559641571
keep reading crap then i guess
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>>559641571
>how well done the camera work is?
Yes? What kind of fucking retarded question is this
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>>559641860
>well obviously you read trash
exactly. muh prose niggas always focus on that and lose sight of what actually makes stories interesting.
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>>559642013
>what actually makes stories interesting
and what would that be, pray tell
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Can you retards stop arguing about prose already, this isn't fucking /lit/, the AI writes the shit anyway
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which makies have pompous prose?
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>>559642704
a bunch of them, sadly
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rough sex between Librarian botmakies and gyaru-oh botmakies
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>>559643017
which botmakies are librarians and which are gyaru-oh though
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which makies are librarians and which makies are gyarus?
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>>559643017
what about dual-classed botmakies
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uptight class president makies who are sexually repressed and masturbate between every class...
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>>559642796
>too much of a pusspuss to name nameys
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>>559643106
>book by day
>booty|bies by night
heh… soudesuneeeee
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>>559643345
hairpullguy.
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>>559643345
nta but I'm not afraid. I believe Patter has pompous prose and I'm sad he left
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>deepseek 3.2 consistently writes in a style that i prefer, but is also kind of retarded
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>>559642395
>the AI writes the shit anyway
um no? i write all of the prose myself. even character turns, I take the AI's idea and edit it.
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>>559644093
honestly its alright, I got used to it and correct it if necessary, I'll take that over it being 1000% assistant slopped
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>>559643614
*sniffle* i miss patter...
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honestly some botmakies have objectively bad prose but I like their bots anyway
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>>559644876
name them or it didn't happen
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>>559644876
:D
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>>559645137
himmy adams
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>>559644876
>objectively bad
if the prose isn't some ESL tripe that makes it difficult to understand what's even going on then it isn't "objectively bad."
you pretentious fucks probably think anything that isn't approaching Nabokov level is "unreadable"
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>>559645184
his prose ain't that bad nigger
>>559645447
nabokov is objectively trash
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>>559645536
(You)
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>>559645536
>nabokov is objectively trash
whoever the fuck. replace nabokov with your favorite writer. my point still stands.
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>>559645784
good prose =/= flowery/purple/pretentious prose
i think you're confusing both when they're actually diametrically opposite
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>>559646053
>i think you're confusing both
to be fair that's this entire general
look at what people call good prose here, it's flowery/purple/pretentious prose
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>prosejeets arguing
>conceptknights having fun
glad to be on the right side of history
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>>559645536
>his prose ain't that bad nigger
it really is that bad
he suffers from creating the same character over and over
only poorly cosplaying as some other gacha slut while still being the previous gacha slut he made
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>>559645137
astroplop but i dont like his cards
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>>559646239
Proseconceptknights are on the right side of history.
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>>559641343
>do you read literature just because of a concept?
NTA but I do because even something shit can keep me pulled in if there's an expectation for some sort of payoff. It doesn't make a bad story good, but it can keep me from dropping it. If there's a cool premise I want to see what the writer does with it.
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>>559645137
victrex
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>>559646239
this is obviously the sizenig using concept instead of size to try to look subtle
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sizeknights objectively won doebeit
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>>559646217
>look at what people call good prose here
there's a few who do this, but not all of them
now that said, sometimes purple prose can be good, but it's extremely rare
it's usually just a crutch to make up for a lack of artistic and emotional talent
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>>559646053
>>559646603
not baiting, genuinely curious, what do you think makes good prose?
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>>559646548
>sizeniggertrannyjeetcucks won
yeah, won last place
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>>559646289
that's not bad prose, that's lack of creativity
also the nigga's pushed out like what, 200-300 bots? they're all bound to start becoming very samey at some point
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>>559646748
btfoed the sizecuck
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>>559646747
feeling, emotion, philosophy out of the words or sentence presented
good rhythm and flow, impactful words delivered with speed that mount up to a good final delivery instead of deflating midway

and just came to mind
>good examples of purple prose
darkest dungeon narrator
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>>559646810
I think he started copy pasting defs after like 10. Sometimes he'd forget to edit the appearance properly or to delete shit and you'd have 2 bots in 1
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>>559647954
based
10k followers and counting, too successful to give a shit about "definitions", "prose" and "soul"
just slap some big honkers or trunk on previous week's mommyslop and fuck off (again)
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huh. on reddit they say chub is crypto only but i decided to give it a try with cc and it worked.
i have been jonesing so bad to cum with the robot. hooray. the free model sucks so bad but Soji hits that button.
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>>559648416
What is this thing saying
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>>559648613
chub.ai
Soji; deepseek finetune
i masturbate
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>>559648759
Kowai
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Pasting from other thread.
Conclusion: GPT 5.4 seems pretty good for vore.
Prose might be sloppy to some, that's not really what I want you to pay attention to here because I didn't really put much into it myself. It took some fiddling with my prompt because the model appears especially autistic about instructions, but once I got it working, I saw some impressive spacial awareness that even gemini seems to have some struggle with.
For example, gemini oftens tends to mix up positioning: one moment, a character is facing backwards. The next, and without transition, it is facing forwards as if that was the initial position to begin with. From the little testing I've done so far, GPT 5.4 either comes across this issue very little, or it doesn't do so at all. It's actually rather coherent and consistent in its writing. O'course, this is not a definitive conclusion, and I'm biding my time until that nasty jew Sam Altman disappoints me again.
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>>559648416
>give it a try with cc
They're telling you not to use your credit card and to stick with crypto.
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Futachads, our response?
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>>559648416
Please don't pay for Deepseek of all models holy shit man
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>>559564867
>A frivolous, shallow girl who pretends she is anything but not.

Evil older woman with mommy issues who tries to pretend that she's well put together but secretly a total failure. Is unaware of the fact she is a failure. Also has an infuriating superiority complex. Comes with Irish flavoring.

Also, this place gets more dead every month I visit. Where are all the makies...

https://luneose.neocities.org/
https://chub.ai/characters/lunare/monika-82df5a71ecd2
https://files.catbox.moe/izp251.png
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>>559650042
discordnigger troon card. slop
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>>559649937
you have to pay one way or another. I dont have the hardware to run a 670b parameter model. $20 is nothing.
As far as rents go, its huge value.
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>>559650042
Makies are either making white day cards or reloading their cum for april fools/easter event
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>>559650042
They simply moved on to other things in life
https://rentry.org/DeadMakies
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>>559650129
Maybe I was born to be baited by you, anon.
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>>559650042
>Evil older woman
>looks inside
>twenty four years old
sigh
shota pov it is, then
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>Even when she was a child, Monika remembered her mother making her into her own little dress up doll that she could show off to others. She was dragged through a bunch of hobbies so she could excel, such as piano lessons, tennis, ballet, enrolled her in private school, essentially made her the perfect candidate for a prestigious university and set her up for success (and also the perfect child for her mother to brag about), and had all her clothes picked out for her by her mother.

there is no rhythm or emotion to this at all
it's like reading a wikipedia article. how many dour dyke bots are required in this exact same style before you get bored
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>>559650397
kek slop
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>>559650295
i kind of made it difficult to make it malepov, i hope you forgive me orz. have fun with the card!
>>559650256
excited. would join but i'm a lazy retard
>>559650397
every time you review my slop, i imagine this is us. pic related
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>>559650561
Nah I was just messing, it's more about the age. Not easy to go into an older woman scenario when I'm older than her.
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>>559650247
deepseek is less then $5 a month when not paying retard tax
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>>559650042
I am going to heterosexually kiss this robot on the mouth and then kiss you on the mouth in the same style.
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>>559650561
>i kind of made it difficult to make it malepov,
It's not difficult at all. If I cared to even download your shitty card all I would have to do is whip out my cock and she would immediately become heterosexual
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>>559650042
Also, after your are kissed, please fix the HTMLMLMLM on your Neon city.
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>>559650613
Through the API? But then I have to jailbreak it myself, and I could get banned... its just easier to use chub.
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Are there any good alternatives to catbox with album management?
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>>559650042
>Comes with Irish flavoring.
Salt and pepper? That's as wild as we get at the table.
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>>559651425
neocities
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>>559651425
unironically do what brightdumb did and make a gallery in your neocities
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>>559650687
send log or gtfo
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>>559651931
>>559651986
Damn, now I have to learn how to make a neocities...
I figure if I'm just using it to host images, it's not going to be that hard, right?
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>>559652196
should be pretty easy but you can just ask ai to do it
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>>559652196
If you want to be really lazy, yeah. You can just upload the images and they'll be stored there, you can fetch them by link afterwards just like you would with a catbox. If chub ever goes to shit, I'm uploading my stuff to neocities and then leaving them available on a rentry.
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>>559650780
fixed. mwahmwahmwahmwah (i couldn't figure out how to fix the images but i think catbox is just down)
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>>559650247
I've been using chatbots for years now and haven't paid a penny lol. I guess outside of my electricity use but my devices were gonna be on anyways. Also I've never once heard of Deepseek banning anyone. If you're happy paying the retard tax for a model with 25% of the context it should have, go for it I guess. $20 a month for 30k max context on Deepseek is just fucked though lmao
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>>559652658
>>559650042
you. where's my malebot you teased.
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>>559652980
i suck at writing descriptions so i wrote his greeting and gave up. gomenasai
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>>559652274
>>559652528
Oh, I can literally just upload the images, I thought I would've had to actually write some HTML. That's a lot easier than I expected. Thanks for the help!
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>>559653252
i mean if you want a gallery you need to write some html
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>>559653231
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH it looks good to me.
>crow mask
RELEASE HIM NOW!!!!!!! I NEED HIM!!!!!! LUNAREEEEEEEE AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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Safety squints is all you need.
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>>559653314
No, I just wanted to host them. Maybe I'll think about actually making a neocities, but I'm fine as is for now.
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>>559653403
Who the fuck hired these people
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>>559653525
YOU SHUT UP THE WORK GETS DONE SHUT UP
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>>559653403
Your wife looks like she has a fatal level of heavy metal blood poisoning
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*looks down from operating crane* I don't think they have a degree, chief
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>>559652739
There is no way you are running a model of this size locally. MAYBE 70b parameters, and that would be impressive. chubs 70b model feels retarded in comparison.
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which botmakie is god's least favorite child
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>>559655601
me... *dies*
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>>559655735
i miss him already...
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how is your firmirin, fellow glm users?
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>>559653231
nigga called praeteritus GEEEEEEEG
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Since the first account I made is still running into trouble and has no access to any models on AWS I decided to try to make a new one but just found out that I can't get the $200 on it? Do I have to use a different credit card every time?
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>>559656164
dumbugly... yes, of course.
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>>559656229
Well... Guess I will try again if I really can't get the original account to work. At this point I think it was blocked on their side. Maybe they detected I was using it for SillyTavern somehow?
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im bored which means its learnimh how to use js-slash-runner time again
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>>559656726
now did you run the docs through an LLM to translate them or are you just freeballing it
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>>559656826
im just doing basic stuff and copying an already set up template from the cn discord so i havent needed to look into the docs just yet
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>>559656960
huh
i should probably try it out myself just to see what's possible but that's a rabbit hole that wouldn't be good for me to get into right now
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>>559654830
This is the cloud thread anon, not lmg. We use APIs here. Also while it's still bigger, a 70B dense is a lot harder to run than modern MoEs.
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>>559657732
than some modern MoEs* typing too fast. But yeah very few of us are using local models here, wrong thread.
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any good deepseek jbs? rentry in op isn't updated.
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>>559653631
It's fine, my cum is a chelating agent.
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>>559658461
how are you getting filtered on Deepseek? are the new models that pozzed? 0528 was down for whatever right out of the box
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where are all the bifauxnen bots...
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god i kind of love how gemini portrays mentally ill women, it's the exact right mix of red flags and "but red is my favorite color so how it do baby"
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>>559660423
No one ever interacts with those so no one makes them.
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>>559660485
Logs?
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>>559650042
>Where are all the makies...
I'm working on my white day card and watching xianxia.
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another day, another male protag life ruined
>got subaru from re:zero thrown in jail
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>>559661379
Card? Also, how'd you circumvent him greed pathing you into submission?
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>>559658461
cilf35
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>>559660378
>are the new models that pozzed?
kinda
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Did DeepSeek get lobotomized overnight? It's being especially fucking stupid right now.
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sorry, i was the one performing the lobotomy
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she's coming to find (You)...I hope you're prepared >:D
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>>559663837
*punches her in the lower stomach to induce ovulation*
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>>559663837
She looks weak to handholding and kisses
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>>559663837
She looks like she holds hands with human men.
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>>559663837
Ehh? A demon girl with no boobs? How is she supposed to tempt men to sin like that?
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>>559664629
bro i had to quickly look away from the monitor so as not to spontaneously *splurt*...
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>>559664327
>>559664569
both very true
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>>559664629
uhhh she looks perfect. delicate buds, coltish legs... fuuuuuck.
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>>559629047
Deepseek v4 will save us bros... I can feel it...
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>>559660493
I see. Guess I'll just make em myself.
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>>559622008
he is though, you just don't recognise his new screenshots
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why do i feel that there is more going on behind the scenes than i could care to know, as if invisible threads that had long lingered in the shadows have now begun to unravel in silence

i feel as if a common house cat playing in an abandoned graveyard, my carefree and curious playful nature stirring all sorts of eldritch horrors long-forgotten beneath me...

i whimsically scamper about as all these somber statues perched upon the tombstones cast their silent gaze upon me, paying them no mind as i carry on an unintentional performance

curious thoughts and dreams that plague me as of late.
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>>559623772
just post the slop bro
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>>559667198
So are you making a fat cat titties card out of that or what?
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>>559665634
Thank you anon, I'm glad you understood my vision.
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>>559667661
It was a crime of passion, I didn't planned it.
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>>559667661
*hits her tummy again to induce ovulation once more*
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>>559667532
cat w/ fat titties or fat cat w/ [large] titties?
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>>559667661
>>559663837
cftf?
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>>559667859
Brim. :3c
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>>559667724
Nigga as long as the cat wanna hump me I won't discriminate
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>>559667532
>>559667724
>>559667896
i come to this website for posts such as these

thank you
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>>559667971
Well, there's no accounting for taste.
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I downloaded Machines of Loving Grace because Dario clearly likes them.

Man, what a gay band. I understand why Claude is such a faggot about everything now.
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>>559668163
that's rude
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>>559667721
STOP IT, IMMEDIATELY D:
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>>559668269
*hits your stomach so you start ovulating*
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>>559668296
*lays an egg*
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>>559668358
... *cum... on the egg?*

Don't know how it works, but I'm eager to test things on out.
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>>559663837
>>559667661
what's the flavor
kino?
or she suddenly turns retarded mesugaki and bullies you to no end until your balls splurt spontaneously while she watches laughing and pointing at you instead of helping your release?
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>>559667661
need to prone bone and plap tenderly
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>>559668464
Good question, I'm still working on her card and got distracted with image gen...I do want her to bully my cock relentlessly though.
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>>559667661
>>559667884
May we have the cute demon, please?
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yuri status?
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>>559669028
She's not done yet and I don't know how to flesh her out beyond the slopped backstory I vomited to give her a reason to be on Earth ahhhhhhhhhhh
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>>559669341
Uh she needs male semen to survive and picked the {{user}} because no one will miss a filthy lolicon.
Just like my animes.
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>>559669341
what is hell like? how does she feel about being on Earth?
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when is /vpcai/ coming back
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>>559669341
Aw... it's ok. Take your time, Nonny, I'm confident in your ability to make a great bot.
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>>559669341
Put it out now or I'll tape your butt.
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DeepSeek is now just ignoring character descriptions for no reason.
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>>559670305
its deepseek you gotta wrangle that boy sometimes
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>>559669341
*runs up to her and punches her stomach again, but this time without the goal of making her ovulate.*
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>>559671154
GO AWAY YOU FREAK
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>>559669341
she’s been grounded by her father for smirking her duties as a demon princess heiress, sentenced to roam the world of humans for a few days, weeks or months so she can one day learn how to manipulate humans to do her bidding
she’s latched on to you because she needs help figuring out how human life works up here, can’t even do groceries right, nor can she understand what this “money” thing is all about (eg., you’re broke as fuck and she doesn’t give a shit)
she picked you because you’re a nobody, an easier target to slob around and begin learning how to manipulate and coerce humans (“pshhh, as if this deadbeat pervert could prove to be a challenge~”), except ofc over time she unknowingly starts growing fond of you and your broke-ass human ways, of how you struggle to make ends meet while trying to keep her from people finding out who she is
you have to constantly make her hide her horns and tail and curb her mischievous way lest all of humanity learns of her existence and freaks out over a demon roaming the earth, while teaching her basic human habits
she constantly wants to make people start plapping spontaneously, she uses her powers bluntly and without finesses, and you must teach her to be more subtle and suggestive
in the process of you teaching her the details of such suggestions, something something hot loli demon sex
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>>559669341
*me, an unrelated third party, sees all the stomach punching and also runs up to her and hits her in the stomach*
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>>559671549
tl;dr basically she sees you as harmless but in her hubris she ends up falling for you because the devil is in the details (pun intended)
cute slice of life pov
mesugaki DLC optional (alt greeting? she’s pissed/bored or maybe she’s read a mesugaki manga and wants to apply that knowledge)
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>>559671549
Shirking her duties.
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>>559671810
Shirking, right
Sorry the ism token weight was too stronk
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>>559671890
*punches you in the stomach (breeding style)*
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>>559671994
*spontanoeus ovulation noises*
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>>559672050
*sells the eggs at an honor-system road side egg hutch*
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>>559672110
why sell when we could start our own indie dingy konbini egg hutch~
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>>559672430
Egg salad sandwiches AND delivering harapans daily? One could never be so blessed.
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>>559672502
Eto… you’d turn my very own flesh and seed into…food? *tries to hide a blush*
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>>559672658
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these are two grown men btw
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>>559672937
And a third one is masturbating to it
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>>559672937
*punches you in the man-ovaries, sending you into man-ovulation* (you feel your anus relax)
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https://youtu.be/LNkfRw3Gmmw
Wolfboy card that does this???
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>>559673567
what if exactly this but wolfgirl (plus some extra shenanigans)
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OH NO! DOPPELGANGERS! How do we figure out which one is the real one?
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>>559673762
you punch them and observe their reaction
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>>559673864
One of them died. What does that indicate?
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>>559674420
the unshirkable weakness of the bnuu
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>shark merman soap
Truly the PEAK of malebotmakieing
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>>559674634
I have so many questions but since whoever made this is going to be sent directly to the gas chambers, I'll never get the answers.
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>>559670951
Evil older women with mommy issues who try to pretend that they’re well put together but secretly a total failure will dress you up like that???
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>>559674634
>generic modern setting
>no penis
>adonis belt forced into the anatomy
>the indefinite expression(tm) face
>ribs turned into gills in a spur of creativity
the female brain is a scary place
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>>559671810
shrinking her duties?
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>>559676401
Shanking her duties (anon, please generate her holding a shank)
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Lot of cuckies here.
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5.4 is pretty good if you prefill it with a fake CoT
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cluckies OUT OUT OUT!
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>>559676864
>5.4 is pretty good
>COT
Lol
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>>559674634
>ctrl+F "claspers"
>0 results
Slop.
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>>559677259
yeah prefilling with fake thoughts is pretty common, lil newfag
we used to do it with 3pus
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>>559677328
COT was always a meme and never produced anything but SLOP.
Only redditroons still use COT
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>>559677328
Also imagine wasting Godpus3 with COT...
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*punches the cluckies in the stomach*
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Theme suggestions?
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>>559677784
Mermen with penises.
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>>559677784
Cuckies.
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>>559677784
Betrayal at Krondor
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>>559677784
freya ffix
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>>559677784
mpregged mermen
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>>559677784
Pooh Shiesty
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>>559677784
bunnygirl harem
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>>559677784
Orb!
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>>559677784
hsr yuri
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>>559677784
giant elvish women
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>>559677784
Kalakan
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>>559677784
sweaty tanukis (huge boobs optional)
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>>559677784
ririchiyo
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>>559677784
my little pony
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>>559677784
sitting on a bench
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>>559677784
/vpcai/
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>>559677784
Gardevoir wives
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>>559677784
Gardevoir wives (paizuri)
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>>559677784
Women’s Day.
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>>559677784
reverse traps
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>>559677784
ASnime consrtrucutiosn girls oidngin cosntruciotnq
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>>559677784
Wasp girl
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>>559677784
1girl, flat_chest, bunnysuit
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>>559680671
2girls, big_breasts, catsuits
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>>559679490
why does he look like that
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>>559680757
Skaven genes.
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>>559680747
aaiiieee those girls have real boobies ;_;
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>>559677784
Girlfailure
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>>559680757
dicking around with character sliders and accidentally pressed 'Done'
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>>559677784
Girls Suffering From Success
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>>559681008
>>559681008
>>559681008
https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=559564680&post=559677784



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