Avoided the Nerfs Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>559558949
SILVER STATUS?
Homeless werewolf.
>Pocket, Mirage, Wraith, Kelvin metawhat year is it
>>559576084I'm oracle you little disingenuous nigger piece of shit gaslighting monkey, Haze has been power crept for ages and the current patch buffs tipped it over the edge she's getting fed in all my matches and no Le metal skin doesn't counter when she's 20k souls ahead go kys if u play Haze
Sex with Venator
So do Doorman's bells do more or less damage if we take the old impact damage into accountConsidering that he lost almost all the damage on cart and half the damage on hotel, the bells had better do significantly more.
>"Hey maybe you should buy one or two counter items that aren't just apart of your build-" >"WOOOOOOW SO YOU WANT ME TO BUY EVERY ACTIVE AND GREEN ITEM IN THE GAME WOOOOOWWWW"https://youtu.be/8x9mmP2GR1A
Does gun Talon still rape people in 5 seconds?
>>559576218Oracle is pisslow, dumbass.
>>559576313it's top 20%, guaranteed higher than the avg haze downplayer
Anon told this funny fucking joke though last thread. He goes "Silver got 95 nerfs surgically inserted in her ass"
>>559576285I don't think he got changed at all despite being overpowered as fuck. Just keeps floating under the radar.
>old champions are powercrept and useless!>patch happens>new champions are powercrept and useless
Venator out of all the new characters didnt need nerfs
>>559576460>champions
Wraith is so OP now, holy fuck
Silver was raped in the early spring of '26
>Wraith is turbocancer that solo melts walkers nowThank you Valve
What's the next agenda for the "pro" players?
>>559576496People here were still calling for melee Ven to get gutted
>>559576496He...didn't get any?
>>559576273>JUST BUY SLOWING HEX>NO I MEAN JUST BUY DISARMING HEX>OH YOU NEED KNOCKDOWN TOO>NOO NO NO YOU NEED TO BUY CURSE TOO>OH YOU NEED COUNTERSPELLdisingenious nigger
>>559576496100% ban rate last Night Shift.
>return fire nerfedfor what reason?
>>559576521kek what a bitch (literal)
THEY FUCKING TOOK AWAY MY SECOND TETHER FUCKING JEWS NOW I CAN'T HEALSLUT ANYMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
They kneecapped Victor's aura way too hard tbdesu.
Yeah anyone who thinks Doorman somehow was nerfed is tripping, he's actually so back. Bell now hits like a truck in lane and doesn't require you to hit the actual bell hitbox, making it basically impossible to miss, and it also scales so much better now. Chunks people for a nice amount all game long. The maxed out door is also insane, i had boundless and my door was reaching from my blue walker to the enemy blue walker. God it feels so good to play Doorman when he's actually decent.
>>559576553I...know...erm...did you read the thread subject and edition erm...awkward #awkward moment kindaaaa awkward on your part lil buddy
new calico is fun
>>559576497leagueGODS run this shit in case you weren't aware 90% of the eternus ladder is league refugees
Wraith got those made up fictional Hero Labs™ numbers.
>>559576523>thing shes always donethe real thing you should be noticing is that her damage output fucking tripled and she's no longer a free lane
haha wow wraith is REALLY fun to fight right now haha lol :^)
When people usually refer to powercreep, they just mean the new characters being OP.THIS is what actual powercreep looks like.
Surely Wraith isn't THAT broken right?
>>559576635Oh...I glossed over the OP...You're still gay though.
The chinks and gooks will somehow dominate this game in the future
>>559576084I think haze has had the highest average winrate through the entirety of the playtest at all ranks. She's so good her kit can never be bad due to high invis speed + good scaling damage + fast farmingShe's like seven but gun>>559576670prob the best hero in the game at least
>>559576568try picking the right one for the hero you're having the biggest issues with, lil oracle bro
>>559576568>You have to buy different items based on the hero you want to counter instead of just having a 1 size fits all.Go back to league you fucking retard.
suddenly no one talks about rem and celeste. strange...
>>559576645>smurfing in shitlow and screencaps it>not even enough decency to end the game >draw it out for 60 minutes and still only get 21 kills>playing the DEI characterunironically kill yourself NOW
Its just amazing how over a decade later this comic remains accurate
>>559576618You can healslut for your e-boyfriend with permanent tether thoughbeit?
Walkers are made of fucking toilet paper now
Nu Wraith making Celeste look balanced in comparison.
>>559576497I wish other games had cringy unique names for their fighters so I could rotate between different types of bait.
Ate Dota 2Ate league of legendsAte OverwatchAte Marvel rivalsAte DeadlockLuv MinaLuv Spider-ManLuv ReaperLuv Night StalkerSimple as
>>559576813silver got kneecapped and shiv was kicked in the balls but overall yeah pretty muchbasically buffs all around
>>559576239They made him easier to play in shitlow>Bell changeIf you just throw bells slightly above enemy heads or have good timing, you don't need to worry about getting your M1 bodyblocked. If you're a noob however you just throw all your abilities directly at enemies off cooldown and would get bell detonation blocked by creeps. So now in exchange for making Doorman easier to play for shitters(by letting his gun shoot through enemies to always detonate bells) they nerf his damage output by removing impact explosions completely>DoorsNot much to say here, it's a consolation buff if anything since his door range was already good at T3>CartThe hitbox was jank in the past and needed to be *fixed* but they have passed off this fix as a buff. And since it's a "buff" not a "fix" they had to compensate by removing the damage on wallstuns. In other words a nerf to Doorman players who bother to line up for stuns against terrain (instead of just spamming it off cooldown in the general direction of the enemy team while BROOLing at blue)>UltWorst change by far. From maybe Emissary(?) rank onwards NOBODY has issues escaping th Baroness unless they got cc'd at the same time. You just needed to know how to mantle. Now he's rewarded for ulting retards who can't escape (10 second cooldown, Unstoppable lasts as long as target is inside) but with less flexibility since his overall cooldown is now longerIt's tragic because Doorman really should be the high rank 500 IQ bullshit bamboozle hero but every change they make to him turns him into more of a shitlow splitpusher who just uses his doors to run away
Is it just meOr does damage seem higher across the boardI lose 80% of my hp in lane from one mis step overnightI swear I'm not crazy
>>559576670She's pretty insane right now because all her core items already give her fire rate (merc mag, ricochet, capacitor, spellslinger, spiritual overflow, burst fire, and now blood tribute) and she can get infinite bullets from her 3 t3 AND she can throw infinite cards while doing that
>>559576849>now
>>559576798>smurfingi fucking wish, this was my previous match where i got shit onand trust me my ass was trying hard to end that fucking game but they had really good base defense somehow, my viscous literally never used his punch on the graves ult so that didnt help
>>559576650Combined with the Walker nerfs it's just fucking stupid now
So they gave the long range sniper character...an ability that behaves like a shotgun...random spread and all...With assassinate changes I had the suspicion that they had no idea what they were doing, but this one seals the deal, impressive.
>>559576853your ritualists?
>>559576881Shiv now has two stamina. He is the only male character in the game to have two stamina. Shiv has officially been castrated.
ok but seriously when do I use the golden egg
>>559576849it's retarded how you can suicide into the first walker and instantly get it, like actually retarded
What did Graves do to deserve the nerfs?
Lack of Vyper changes has me upset.
>>559576985When your patron is 1
Holy fuck Wraith rapes now. What were they thinking?
>>559576971You forgot that they gave Calico souls on kills after removing it from Vindicta too.
anyone experiencing memory leaks or just me?
>>559576985Never eat the egg. It has infinite POTENTIAL thus infinite value. Hold.
Mirage Scarabs are still the worst ability in the game
>>559576971you VILL buy the rescue beam
>>559577050it's way easier to get them on calico too since you were going to be using your 2 anyways
>>559576821>she doesn't have two e-boyfriendsLMAOING AT YOU RN xD
>>559577050I don't even...Clearly this shows that the bonus souls were not an issue, they specifically had an issue with Vindicta having it. It is absolutely wild, I can't shake the feeling that this is another melee Ivy situation where someone in the sekrit test club had a retarded peeve and they decided to cater to it.
>>559576904Why are you retards all crying about the ult buff being worthless. Just buy slowing hex or cold front and most characters arent getting out on time, the new level 1 even removes a stamina from them.
Genuinely believe these idiots don't realize that people play characters they like instead of those that are stronger. Would explain why Silver got giganerfed while Wraith is now broken.
does someone have that image of doorman with his limbs arranged like a swastikano reason
>>559576971shut up nigger you are not getting your retarded suggestions about a single shot rifle
Is this the first case in Deadlock history so far where pro league niggers collectively psyoped the devs into completely dumpstering a hero?>Play tournament>Pick Silver every time>Underperform every time>Lose every time>"Actually Silver is the strongest hero in the game right now which is why she's #1 prio every match. You shitlows just don't understand, she only did poorly because the enemy team countered her">Devs buy it>Nerf Silver>Repeat>Repeat>Repeat until she's been left a quadruple amputeeAbsolutely demonic manipulation op.
I grow tired of Silver players whining.
>>559577201Wrong, most moba nigs will play whatever is on the top of the tier lists
Now that the dust has settled, which hero would you fuck in deadlock?
>>559577241Silver is white so that means she isn't immune to nerfs
>>559576069oh they fucking gutted Mina. Went from terrible late-game to like a net negative late game. Literal fucking Ultbot past 30 minutes and they add 15 seconds to her ult? This game is a joke.
Haven't played the game in a monthWhat's changed since then for Warden, Victor, Abrams, Drifter, Grey Talon, and Silver?
>>559577201Grey Talon is the only proof you need. He's allowed to be broken as fuck overpowered because nobody wants to play him because he's ugly. Valve keep buffing him thinking that nobody plays him because he's weak but now he's overtuned to fuck and still nobody plays him. The second they redo his model and he looks like Turok then he'll get nerfs because people will actually play him. He wasn't even touched in this patch.
>>559576904You retards really need to get off the thread and go play a match. I already played three as Doorman, he feels fucking great now and i'm Ascendant.
How is MikuGinnis right now? Is turret build back? 5 turrets + 2 from her wall seems like fun
>>559577284Usually yeah but DL is a bit of an exception. There is enough skill expression where save for the absolute top ranks people will be able to stomp with any character.Explains why I keep seeing Vindictas even when she's absolute dogshit while no one picks GT.
>>559577284I only play bottom tiers. If the character is too good I lose interest entirely.
EPSTEIN RAPE MINA
>>559577348Abrams got nerfed to hell.Anyway this game is fucking abysmal. The balancing is a joke. This patch is the worst thing I've fucking seen in a long time. And the problem is it reflects a broken game state that's going to stay fucking broken for like 3-5 months before there's any chance of any of it being meaningfully rectified.
Support Vindicta is so fucking back, i missed it so much
So what are the 'permanent buffs' that the egg gives you?
Straight sex with Silver
Shiv was raped in the sweltering hot winter of '26
nu-wraith can actually 1v6 holy kek
>>559577537The sinners/gold statue buffs.
>>559577537Statue/sinner's buffs
>>559577275Too badMy problem is your problem until it's my problem no longer
>>559577412My miku main friend is bitching about wall stun and firerate buff being taken away and I pointed out that the devs clearly want her to have an engie tf2 playstyle with turrets and heals instead of just being a selfish pseudo m1 character.
Legitimately uninstalling this to free up space on my SSD to play other games. Hell I'll pirate Death Stranding 2 and a couple weeks and play it instead of this shit and that's saying a lot considering Kojima lost the entire plot.
>>559577537statue buffs
>>559577348Warden(and all gun carries, really) giga buffed thanks to blood tribute having no downside anymore. I really don't understand how they think this is okay.
Testosterone = more staminaThey put Shiv on HRT
>>559577339>gutted Minathey didnt though
>mfw Silver is still first pick and ban next Wednesday because Night Shift cunts tricked Yoshit and Hoshit and they're just doing it for the love of the game
>>559577412Its weird her wall turrets exist only for 8 seconds and doesnt interact with duration extenderYou would think theyd just make her wall turrets normal turrets, they die in less than a second if getting shot at at all stages of the game anyway
>>559577643see you tomorrow
>>559577615>until it's my problem no longerSo, I'm never gonna stop hearing you bitch then unless it's literally impossible to lose as the character...
>>559577581Finally, someone talking senseThis hero was BUILT for massive gentle femdom hmofa
NO PLEASE PLEASE I NEED TO TAKE NO DAMAGE DURING WOLF FORM I NEED TO BE DAY 1 SILVER AND JUST FACE TANK EVERYTHING AND DO ONE ZINGILLION DAMAGE WITH 1 ORANGE ITEM!!!
>>559577661Xher name is Shivana now, bigot
What character should I play if I'm jewish and really greedy and hate goyims
>>559577142>you VILL buy the rescue beamI'm actually a bit happy with that change, what worried me the most about the assassinate change is that they would hard force Vin in a one dimensional playstyle, so I'm glad they threw her supportive side a bone. A far less grim fate than what awaited Kelvin and Dynamo.But genuinely, it's like they were trying to find problems to a solution rather than the opposite. A snowballing Vindicta was easy to keep in check by:1.The ability is on a limited resource that requires aim2. Vin sucks at pushing objectives/contesting mid. No matter how fed, she could never singlehandedly win a game.And they gave that to Calico...one of the most slippery fuckers in the game with an entire exclusive section of the map that she can farm, on a disposable low cooldown skill that requires little aiming no less.>>559577240Stop boxing shadows redard, the change from fire rate to weapon damage is objectively shit and makes her kit even less cohesive.
Hopefully these hotfixes reverted every single change these retards just implemented
>>559577135watch out anon, I might steal 250 health from you every 35 seconds!
>>559577610>>559577603Oh lmaoJust a random one per 200 souls? What a meme
>>559577767Rem
>>559577631>you will play the intended playstyle or you won't play at allfull m1 builds are all lame as hell but it should be allowed and given some degree of support
>>559577631The stun being gone kinda sucks but it was always finnicky as fuck (for me at least). It was nice to interrupt channeled ults like Dynamo though. The slow when enemies pass through the summon seem way better. Getting 40% spirit res with just T1 seems insane for lane.
the yamatoCHADS eating good as our character is flying under the radar as usual
>>559577184I wouldn't be surprised if some fag in there started crying about how much he hates snipers since acting like they're inherently broken is a popular trend now.
Imagine trying to fight under walker at this point if the enemy team has a Wraith.
Silver buffs when? At least rework her ult to not auto activate or something
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>>559577737Yeah
has silver been spayed or are people still playing her
>>559577767Rem, steal from both your allies and enemies sinners and be a fat piece of shit while you hide inside your amerigolem of choice
Geist's new gun sounds feel straight out of DEADBOLTwtf
>>559577729I don't believe that was my problem HOWEVER
>>559577918Yes to bothShe was insanely op before this patch and now she is just good
>>559577924She'll still be played because of waifufags and because she's fun and she'll keep getting nerfed patch after patch.
>>559577004No Sinclair changes either, they are 100% getting full rework.
>>559577948Your skill issues will always be a problem because you'll never acknowledge them.
>>559577004She doesn't need changes. She has been very good ever since her first rework. Only thing she needs is a proper model instead of this ugly placeholder.
>>559577831The issue is that m1+ult miku was flat out better than all the other builds.Turrets were okay. Her heal was basically useless past laning (and even then) and mikus only used it as their own little wraith FR buff.
>>559577918Lycan T3 is now as strong as old Lycan T0. T0 is a genuine liability.
yeah I'm banning wraith, fuck this nonsense
how should i build her now? i dont like gun ivy and used to just build her support, i think support is still viable.. but i miss full spirit ivy...
>>559578016My skill issues are separate from this discussion because we're talking about Silver's nerfs, not Ivy's nerfsUntil she gets a buff to make her good again at at least 2/3 skill groupings of the game (shitlow, pisslow and prolow), I will continue to Silverpost
Haze status?
why are you guys trying to balance wolf form like she's a haze or wardenbitch has zero fucking range
>>559578154Support is the only way to go
>>559578173>Haze status?only under the radar because other heroes got overnerfed or overbuffedEnjoy it while it lasts
>>559577767Bebop is literally a golem. Rem is a rat that steals all the money on the map and escapes into the sewers.
>>559577664>they didnt thoughExplain how she wasn't gutted you fucking retard? you fucking stupid faggot
>#1 ranked Shiv said that Shiv might be the worst character in the game without the automatic execute nowOwari... da...
>>559578154utility spirit with eggit used to be pretty punishing to run full utility because you'd fall off really hard but egg might help with that
What were they THINKING with these latest ivy changes?>*hits blunt*>"bros, what if we nerfed everything about ivy and change her to be a support n shieet?">"cool, but we should also rape her support playstyle as well brooooo">"hell yeah! ship that shit to live my nigga!"FUCK YOU YOSHI. TRANS LIVES ARE AT STEAK RN. REVERT TS NOOOW!
>>559578221The move speed nerf is a war crime. The fat bitch already has 2 stamina to begin with and needs to be touching you to actually do anything.
>>559578316>with eggJesus that will make her earlygame even worse when she's already a liability
Nope, not playing shitty ass turret ginnis in normal mode, so fucking garbage, even with both 1 and 3 maxed out, your turrets cannot kill a single damn enemy
mirage sucks ass now that they got rid of the shared buffs on his ulthe does zero damage
I hope they nerf Silver more. Silverfags are secondaries who ruin this game and general.
>>559576971the crows travel for the same distance so you can throw it into a teamfight and hit three dudes
>>559578349skill issuepro sweats are doing well with ivy in eternus
>>559578414damage is half of what he doesliterally just buy boundless
>>559578349>permanent tether>gets a fuck huge AOE snare>stun deals even more damage and with a longer duration>ult gives your entire team a fuckton of shieldOf course they're going to nerf her fucking damage, she literally outclasses Paige now in terms of how much she provides the team with now
https://gamebanana.com/sounds/86887go aheaddownload the mod
>>559578063She doesn't need an overhaul but some light touches here and there would be nice, like Petrifying an airborne dickhead (Talon/Vindicta/Lash/Flying Carpet/Majestic Leap) causing them to plummet like Knockdown seems like something that should happen.On the other hand, if they realized that it was clearly lore-appropriate for her to be able to slither into the vents as should be her Patron given right to do, I wouldn't turn my nose up at it.
>>559578496>>gets a fuck huge AOE snare>>stun deals even more damage and with a longer durationat t5 in both these instances
>>559578484>half of what he doeswhat is the other half
>>559578520what does the chunky celeste mod look likeI'm not making a gamebanana account to find out
>>559576632This. I keep getting MVP as him.
>>559578520BRAPFAG BEGONE
>>559578520Why do Americans have this fetish genuinely
>hero is bad>nerf it instead of buffing it>also buff basically every other hero so the hero is even worse comparatively ???
>>559578414>Is effectively immune to bullets with his stupid tornado>Can use the fucking tornado 4x if he gets echo shard>Djinn's Mark now fucking slows AND stuns at max marks>Scarabs give him instant max HP and Traveler's is utterly busted right now since you can go anywhere you fucking want now
>>559578567press 4in theory he should function as a bodyguard brooling butt buddy that tanks with scarab and dives in like a retard with tornado but that remains to be seen now that scarab is an ability
Are people finally going to get over their Apollo Derangement Syndrome now that 10 heroes just became actually overpowered at once or is that just wishful thinking?
>>559576646every time some fucking retards shits his pants I know he's from league, both in dlg and in-game
>>559578621>20k paradoxyup every game
>>559578698Apollo being broken wasn't the problem he's genuinely the only character in the game that's actively unfun to fight
>>559578520for what purpose I already uninstalled this horseshit game LOL
>>559578698No. People get pissed off at spirit heroes because they think aiming is the only real skill in video games
>>559578775We'll see how you feel about that statement in a week.
is Doormans ult being slightly better at lvl 3 worth kneecapping his bell and cart entirely?
>>559578775That's Geist tho
>>559578723I still remember one of my first matches an enemy player started crashing out and shitting on the game referencing League at some point. I checked the replay later and saw him trying to FF at like ten minutes.
>>559578263her early game is still strong and her late game is now aids with her new upgradesi don't expect an initiate like you to get it
>>559578775I can think of at least five heroes less fun to fight than Apollo in the current patch.
PULLBACK
>that doorman gun buffwhat the fuck are they doing
>>559578863his cart wasn't even kneecapped
>>559578775The fuck? I always enjoy dueling Apollos because it's extremely engaging to try and dodge him and making him mistime more than some guy hitscanning your forehead with no counterplay except shooting them back.
>>559578890Is there a stat anywhere for how many league matches actually get finished (or at least 85% finished before ff) and how many get forfeited?
So is my tesla bullets paradox justifiable now?
since when typing gg in all chat made the character say good game?
>lane partner is vindicta>get raped in lanestop picking this useless blue bitch
>>559577631Her turrets would have to not be shit for that to be how she plays
>>559579110hot....
>Pocket: Affliction T3 now prevents all healing on targetsThis is legitimately the most fucked up line in the entire patch. If you're playing any hero that relies on lifesteal like Infernus, Abrams, Victor you NEED to get divine barrier or have someone on your team get it else you just cannot play against pocket
Is it just me, or is Seven too strong now?
>>559579082Since now I guesssovl
>>559579110what were you playing
>>559579157goodsustain niggers have had it too good for too long
>>559578684>bodyguardfuck that, ill play him like natures prophet like they intended and be a rat fuck
>turned crow from long-range ability to a short cone in front of you>on the one character whose all of her abilities are centered around her staying in the backwhat the fuck yoshi?
ok after playing victor for a while his late game somehow is stronger, early and mid feel the samebut he plays WORSE because the aura is just a big fat piece of shit, might as well just have two abilitiesi don't like it
tested the egg and it looks like it does gives you correct buffs, it starts with 400 souls so you get 2 buffs for 400 souls if that's what you want (I used it at 1000 so it should be 5) i got 3 +15 max health, 1 +3% max ammo and 1 +3% weapon damage but it only showed 2 max health in the UII also lost 5 spirit from losing the investment, I'll wait for the meta gods to see if it's worth it but I don't I'll but it, they're all level 1 buffs at the time I used it too
>>559579146which is why they buffed the fuck out of themalso 99% of complaints about turrets are because people suck dick at placement
>>559579256So can you just buy it over and over to burn excess money on vase buffs lategame?
>>559578793>facerolling keyboard is skill>metal skill invalidates all m1 carries>no metal skill equivalent to keyboard facerolling subhumansStop downplaying spiritfaggot.
>>559579219>raven FAMILIAR >throws 12 birds?????????????
>>559579237That's because everyone is building spirit res/spellbreaker/witchmail this patch so it hits like wet paper. Only useful to stack EE for his 1 lmao.
>>559578496I don't think listing a character's traits with all their skills at T3 is an ideal way to consider them.
>>559579016I was playing Apollo and some guy with a massive watermelon brain managed to dodge my ult by warp stoning into me to get behind me in the split second between me aiming and firing it. I was seriously impressed, don't think I've seen anyone do that before.
>>559578520
>>559579293Spirit is the thinking man's damage type. Sorry you can't understand the skill required to use it
Puddle punch Viscous is absolutely retarded right now
>Play Street Brawl>Enemy Dynamo gets enhanced refresher first roundfuck me i guess
>>559576273>hey, this item is good for countering this ability/character>UGH YOU WANT ME TO PULL 6400 SOULS 1 MINUTE INTO THE MATCH?!
Wish I could go back to when I was still a noob playing against other noobs lol
>>559579157Dispel Magic?
>>559579435Doesn't work on ults, only DB does
>>559579237At least he's damn near unkillable now though late gameYou can stall out things to such a degree the damage decrease really doesn't matter anymore, I feel like escalating is pretty much mandatory now no matter the build
>>559579435Doesn't work on ult debuffs.
>>559579404This is the worst post match screenshot I have ever seen.
>>559579435Doesn't work on ultimate debuffs
>>559579365>thinking>3 second cds>unmissable abilities that hit the whole lane>no tier 3 item that stops you from facerolling keyboard>even with the best spirit resists in the game all that means is that you wait 10 seconds to do it again.Maybe it would be thinking if you are brown.
>>559579435They added a clause where you cannot cleanse ultimates for some fucking reason. Should be reverted desu
>>559579293You've already been told to buy Counterspell, lil Oracle bro.
Ivyfag and silverfag tears are delicious
2024 oldfags, is it normal for the game to feel significantly worse balance after a few updates or is this something new? I swear the game was far more balanced prior to the new heroes patch
>>559579404>when I was still a noob playing against other noobsWell, uh... anon... About that
between holiday, silver, paige, mina, and lady geist, who is most likely to suck on my miserable incel hog out of pity?
>>559579291looks like it but I didn't test it, it takes more than 5 minutes to break even and that's a lot of time to be without 10% damage in lane unless you're a turbo support
>>559579505yeah, we had no idea what we were doing, the dude who was playing billy complained that we were throwing at like 40 min, we still won lol
>>559579157Lots of characters got dispel tools though
>>559579551>where you cannot cleanse ultimates for some fucking reasonbecause it cucked pocket's ultimate
>>559579593icefrog patch philosophy is to do whatever the fuck aligns with his esoteric vision and figure out the balance after
sweaty paige paizuri
I want to cuck Pocket.
>>559579593Game has always had horrendous balance. Haze used to teamwipe with one button and there was nothing you could do
>>559579593You're probably experiencing whiplash from all the new changes. Its going to take a while for normies to update their firmware and know what items and skill orders to use on many heroes.
>>559579485>>559579504>>559579513>>559579551I didn't know that. I only came back recently with the new heroes. I remember always buying Debuff Remover when against a Pocket in 2024. Have not seen him in my games at all since coming back.
Where do you see what hotfixes are being implemented?
>>559579670Divine Barrier is the literal only thing in the game that removes Affliction. All other debuff removers only work on non-ultimate debuffs.
>>559579593this is at least the most unbalanced the game has been since the mina billy drifter update
>>559578935Going in!
>>559579767I realized just after I posted, counterspell still works though
I still love her even though she got brutally gaped by Yoshi in the pleasant warm spring of 26
>>559579674It SHOULD. That's the point of the item. Might as well make it so you cant counterspell Apollo's ult. This line of thinking makes no sense
i’m already a god silver so silver being nerfed doesn’t affect me and will in fact only make playing against enemy silvers be much easier.
>>559579342>apollo on enemy team>buy counterspell for ultsimple as
>>559579860because it'd completely trivialize and shit on the character for minimal investment?what kind of complaint is this? are you stupid?
BROADWAY IS UNDER ATTACK!
>>559579848KWAB (Kek, what a beauty)
>>559577275Get used to it because it ain't stopping any time soon.
OUR DEFENSES ARE CRUMBLING
>>559579908You completely ignored my point and called me stupid.
>>559579541>no tier 3 item that stops you from facerolling keyboardHow many times are you going to ignore Counterspell existing?
>>559579918It's no use because by the time you hear that message, Wraith has already deleted the walker
>>559579973Believe me, I know.
Checking in?
>>559579908>shit on the character for minimal investment?so do many other items, knockdown cucks vindicta put her her main ability, why does pocket get special treatment?
>Seven obsessed one-trick on twitter seething about seven not being able to slap stuns on people from 20 miles away anymore
who lost?who won?
Hope this hotfix is removing calico, what a stupid fucking unnecessary buff
>>559580048How much?
>Haze is impossible to kill in ult now>Apollo does 2k per ult>Kelvin can heal someone to nearly full with a single grenadeThis entire update is such dogshit
>>559580145>who lost?Silver>who won?SilverpostersWraith
Fucking hell the range nerf on Dynamo is brutal, that shit is basically melee until you get expanded range and tier 5
>>559579306I mean she's familiar with all of them but only one is her best friend
>>559580048Feel free to uninstall for the next 3 months until they fix this shit.
is there any afk timer/penalty? i cbf playing a 30 minute game when i have multiple feeder lanes so id rather just play runescape while i wait for the game to end>but you can come back broidc
>>559580078knockdown is a cheap solution that can be countered by a cheap solution dispelling affliction would be a cheap solution that just instantly wins the interaction. not the samethere's a reason divine barrier is a t4 and dispel is a t3
Silverficanon needs to write a sequel where she comes to the bar all beaten up and needs gentle loving sex to console her after being gaped by Yoshi
>>559580078I mean to be fair DB is also the only thing that removes Drifter's ult
>>559580201You're meant to at least buy Spirit Resilience by the endgame.
>>559580078Arguably it's different as one is an ultimate, but yeah, kinda fucked up
What's the verdict?
I would rather have un nerfed Apollo over Wraith in her current state
>>559580226You'll get thrown into low priority matches but it's fine because you'll just be playing with other people like you.
>>559580274>You're meant to at least buy Spirit Resilience by the endgame.Yeah good thing I had that and fucking witchmail retard
>>559580216It seems I made a mess.
silver faggots really are the NPCs of these threads huh
>>559580325I want to try reverb ult build but the CD might be too long
Doorman has new voicelines you can only hear if you get killed by not being able to escape the baroness where he mocks you after you died, its really good
apollo was already unplayable in anything above arcanist. rip to the slowing hex prince
>download Scout as Billy mod>hear Scout's agonizing screams from across the map
Seeing the disparity between comfy buffed character posters and the gaped is quite funny
>>559580337Apollo's ult does not do 2000 damage to someone with spirit res items.
did the devs smoke crack when making this patch?
>>559580236affliction is a cheap ultimate that should be able to be countered by a cheap solution by your logic, you turbo nigger
Doorman ult build with arctic blast and knockdown for almost guaranteed failures to check out
>>559580395I heard the VA didn't have any history with VA work and was a theatre actorpretty based that he seems up to fill lines for shit when full time professional VA's seem too busy with their illustrious careers and schedules to deign deadlock some time
C&C
These changes to the macro make low rank 100 times more stressful
who are some heroes like Victor where even if I do poorly early game, I can just win end game through perseverance?
>>559580548just need to spend 10k on memey bullshit
>>559577683>Your town McComb whatever happened there
>slides my finger across ZXCV and slow hexes, knockdowns, artic blasts and silences you>sends you to baroness>places 2 bell landmines outside waiting to deal 1500 damage>echo shard cart stuns you for 4 seconds>sends you back to baronessthis is cancer lmaowhat were they thinking
Been watching Silvers at the top of the spectate list the last couple hoursAlmost every wolf form is spent running away, even in lane, it's actually funny as fuck
>>559580475affliction doesn't cost souls and isn't an item you dumb retard
>>559580548>9600 to have a shitty refresher
McGinnis's turrets have literally no healthYou are just donating souls if you use them
>mfw went 19-0-20 as sevenmaybe i dont play m1ggers enough but his gun feels crazy with his 3rd skill steroids
>people still whining about Apollo in the Wraith Calico Mirage Pocket Kelvin Rem eraLiterally just buy counterspell.
>>559580618>just spend 10k on items that are universally useful to give your ult a 10 second cooldownftfy
>>559580590please elaborate for a retard that doesn't understand the macro
>>559580620they were thinking that doorman won't start the match with 40k souls in meme items to do what dynamo or paige do at a click of a button
>>559580565Well not really, i need to correct myself, they're not new lines. They're lines for ulting any hero but now they play after he kills you with ult. As for the recoding stuff, its most likely not really the actors's fault that we're not getting new voice lines, its probably a valve thing. They are probably waiting for the game to be more complete with all the objectives, correct names for midboss and other stuff and all the heroes before they call the voice actors back to record all the missing lines.
>>559580624Wolf form with no investment doesn't really do anything for you anymore so that's not surprising.
Is it too late to get invited into the game?
It is so infuriating how people see versatility and playstyle flexibility as "something to fix"every single time, and it gets praised as "streamlining" or "making the characters have more defined roles" when in reality it's just the devs taking away options, just when I thought I found the game that celebrated that they suddenly shift into this directionand people clap for it, it's maddening
>both the black women heros got suddenly buffed to the topYeah, I think I'm noticing a pattern here.
>>559580592Bebop is the #1 at this. You can just straight up feed but so long as you are hitting people with bombs in the late game you will have 1000+ damage nukes and you can always hit a single hook that ends up winning thegame for your team
this was the first match where I was a key player, thoughts?
>lanemate rages and calls you a feeder>commends you when you get MVP at the end
>>559580757knockdown is anything but universally useful
>>559580853>both of the uninteresting personality void black women gangster crime boss girlbosses with purple colour schemingsweet baby remnants
>>559580823Best vaguepost of the thread so far
>>559580823Yeah, shit sucks. God forbid you play any way but the single one most liked by the developer.
>>559580592infernus, seven, haze, and venator all are m1 heroes that farm fast and so become fast as fuck in the late game
>Yes I assure you Icefr- I mean yoshi that buffing Calico and Wraith would make the game healthy
>>559580650>affliction doesn't cost soulsIts T3 does costs souls to comoletely fuck all healing, you double niggeryou can cuck ultimates with counterspell why would you not be able to do the same with debuff remover? >huurrr duur just buy other itemyou are a turbo nigger, you want your mega aids that is easy to apply to work? then buy refresher negro, why should pocket get it easy when his ultimate is the safest thing in the world to landkill yourself
Ah, so they removed the slot limit I'm guessing because they couldn't figure out how to simply fix selling items.
>>559580954A 0.5 second stun might not seem that great on paper but it has ridiculous range and completely kills all the momentum of whoever it hits. Its also disjointed which makes chain stuns better.
>>559580949report him anyway
>>559581092yeah, pocket can buy a t4 to beat a t4. vindicta can buy a t3 to beat a t3. noticing a pattern are we?starting to think are we retard?
>>559580823If everybody just follows the path of least resistance and builds into different flavors of doing shitloads of damage it makes team comp almost inconsequential. The game as it exists now doesn't have draft or any way to coordinate an actual team comp outside of third party tournaments so it hasn't been that much of an issue, but if Valve wants people to take Deadlock seriously then there has to be some strategy when it comes to building a team.
>>559581053any spirit heroes? i dont like m1 heroes theyre boring
>>559580984Several characters had their parts of their kits gutted in favor of doing "their one specific thing" and every single new character they put out are exactly like that, only way to build and playthis is lol balance philosphy and it's unbelievably shit
>>559581184I don't understand this picture but I don't think I like it
this sincerely plays like a joke patch
Silver... forced to work at the circus with Celeste...
>Literaally the only way to make turrets useful is to have Enhanced Rapid recharge AND Omnicharge on them, with T3 Wall Echo sharge for an extra 4 turrets to spamHoly fuck do I hate using turrets. Shame, since they murdered her Minigun.
>>559581294She better be about to kick Ivy's ass for bullying Rem
>>559581330She's going to be begging in the streets
>>559581178it's just okay. A lot of times it will just get shrugged off, or dispelled. this ult doorman build still sounds gimmicky
>>559576971its what faggots have been spamming the last 3 days>just make her spam a flock of crows bro!!!>they should give the generic mark for damage like haze or geist broo!!!bunch of retards
LET'S SEE WHAT YHWH CAN DO
>*parries you*your response?
>>559581343I just build ult.
>>559581330nah she is retiring, i am providing for her from now on
>>559577643I lost 18/21 games in the past 3 days. I have uninstalled and am taking a bit of a break. It... Broke me.
>>559581195Pocket ult is an AoE you midwit. It costs significantly more than a single t4 to counter it
>>559576971>>559578436i think people are confused because visually it does look like it's shorter range, but it's actually the same retardedly long range with a giant hitboxalso it doesnt have random spread so shit bait
Update: We decided to put Shiv on a wheelchair and Silver is now homeless in debt and 3 months pregnant
>>559581456Yeah, that's what I'm going to do next. I had fun with Ult ginnis before these buffs. Now I gotta see how it plays after.
>>559581252victor is pretty much the only one that is guaranteed a good late game so long as he can chill and farm. m1 naturally scales harder than gun due to the way fire rate and damage interact and abilities having a definite cap due to CDwhen a spirit character carries the game it's usually because they're snowballing an advantage rather than their kit just doing what it does
>>559580237https://ghostbin.axel.org/paste/oyobn/raw
>>559581396>dispelledThe idea is to do it early when no one can afford utility to escape the ult
>>559579175Ivy
>>559581503>I lost 18/21 gamesSame, still went up an entire rank tier though lol
>>559581543It's nice. Her early game is just as ass as it'll always be when everyone has 20 stamina and a fuckton of burst so whatever.
>>559581521yeah it's what makes pocket a character. he's always been an ult bot, most of his kit's power is loaded into pressing 4the point of the discussion is what can (you) do about it and why does it take a t4 to deal with his ult instead of a t3
Haze Status bros?
>>559581321It's just Icefrog socially engineering people to not kneejerk ban all the new heroes that are now allowed to be banned, by making a bunch of the old heroes overpowered all at once. He has no confidence in the player base to properly evaluate the strengths of the newest hero batch outside so he is showing everyone what really broken shit looks like (Wraith, Mirage, etc.)
If you're a new player, prepare to get rapedI'm not- I'm just the messenger, don't blame me.
egg should heal for like 1/10th of the souls collected
>>559580823>nearly all lategame lvl3 upgrades drastically buff abilities, changing the way they are played>ADUUUUUUUH THEY ARE TAKING AWAY OPTIONS
>>559581529Is this going to be another>they cut off shiv's arms and legs and now he's nuggetized but he's still top tier because of executeor is he actually dead now? Turning Execute into something you have to aim seems like enough of a nerf that he should deserve buffs to the rest of his kit which seems to have been ritually nerfed as punishment for how good Execute is.
>>559581579You can't really pick Ivy and complain about someone else making you lose lane anymore bro...
>>559581559Based writefag, had a good laugh
>>559581529Shiv is on HRT. He has two stamina (womanly trait) and no longer has his testicles.
paige is fat
>>559581692>sperg post>flat out wrongyeah
>>559579593Actual 2024 oldfag here. This is the best patch in years.
so is mina no longer an early game bully? you play her like a traditional hyperscaler now?
>>559579860it shouldn't because you can already counterspell pocket's ult
League/OW babbies really not ready for the Icefrog
>>559581776How so?
>>559581776Alone in a friday night with Mina...
>>559581836>why are the patches changing things?>they're literally ruining my comfort game
so once you have all your slots filled and feel comfortable with your items couldn't you just spam buy golden eggs and sell them instantly for stat up?like gold statue buffs are basically worth like 50 souls each at start, 75 at 10 minutes, and 100 souls each at 30 minutes, so if you're slotmaxed at 30 minutes or feel comfortable with your items you could just gamble like 10,000 souls for like 25 buffs?
>>559581776gooning to Mina on a Friday night (unironically)
>>559581873NTA, but the patch is basically full of reworks, people have been shit posting about power creep but the old cast now feel really rounded out.
Be honest, have we got a chance with this team comp...?
Who is worse Zhiyong or Ice frog?
>>559581889>Yoshi convinced seekergods to waste all their souls on gacha eggsIf you have extra souls to waste on this shit you are doing everything wrong
>>559581529I'm the father, btw. I'll come back with the milk in 10 years.
Someone from the Deadlock team for sure got buttfucked by Silver so hard that's why she went from really strong, to now really useless.
>>559581995you kidding?
>>559581873Old characters were just missing on gimmicks, power and overall just fun powerful things that make them distinct. This patch makes everyone more powerful and more fun to play as.
>>559581990yeah celeste will be full build in around 95 minutes just hold on until there
>>559582004a boats a boat but the mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat!also I know its mega inefficient but theoretically you could win the jackpot and get like 10+ cooldown reduction boons
>>559582016I'm not sure why seeker silvers talk so loudly but it's tiring
Fellow Vyperfags do not fret, this just means that they're saving her powercreep buffs for when her model rework drops.Just two more weeks!
>>559582061except shiv
>Shiv has the lowest winrate in the game>Is constantly picked in NS yet has a dogshit winrate there too>Shitters whine and seethe because a top 10 player posted a good game with him 4 months ago>Gutted and raped to deathwhat a gay update
I'm not sure if most of the reworks making abilities less functional and damaging until T3 is the best direction.
>>559582136I mean at least the knife bleed build is much better now. Shiv is a sad exception because he has two extremely broken abilities in his 3 and 4 that are almost impossible to balance. He feels like an early prototype design (because he literally is one, he was a prototype for what eventually became Silver). I think he just needs a more fundamental rework.
Honestly want to see pocket's flaccid toad cock flop as my ivory tower heavy melee's his bitchbutton
>>559582239his kit is fun dough
>>559582213Slowing the curve of the game is a good thing. The sooner people accept the fact this is a moba and learn to expect 40-60 minute matches the better.
>>559581195then counterspell shouldn't exist as an item because it's T3, easy to land and cucks ultimates, there is no pattern, only in your retarded mind you dumb nigger, if counterspell can cuck ultimates as a gier 3 so should debuff removerit's even worse when pockets ultimate is one of the easiest to land from total safety as an AOEyou are a retarded nigger
>Sinclair, Vyper got no changesYeah they're going to be reworked bigly
>>559581662>he's always been an ult bot, most of his kit's power is loaded into pressing 4oh not only are you a turbo nigger you are also a shitter at that, figures
>>559582239they need to just remove the deferred damage it's like victor but even more retarded since it allows a guaranteed 1v1 win if his kit is any way good
>>559582371Vyper yeah, Sinclair didn't need changes. He's really strong but not OP
>>559582203>Is constantly picked in NSLiterally the only reason why he got nerfed, same for Silver, the pros that went 0/7 on Silver are here to convince you that she's super broken and needed nerfs
vyper doesn't need a rework
>>559582303I refuse to accept 40-60 min matches when it takes 5-6 wins to rank up from archon 1 to 2.
>>559582446So why the fuck didn't Abrams get put in the ground for having the and pick or ban status as silver but with actual good performance
>Mirage actually feels like a real character now instead of Yoshi's leftover ideas slapped on a characterLudokino...
My queen is playable again
>>559582543his scarabs still feel really bad
>>559581721execute itself got nerfed hard is the thing, the tier 3 no longer refreshes it on a successful kit, shiv was already nerfed into being an ultbot, now he lost his ult...
>>559582523>the point of playing the game isn't playing it but watching a number go upanon?
>>559582558fucking disgusting
>>559582532Main character armor.
EPSTEIN RAPE ABRAMS
>Silver players shocked that they actually need items now instead of becoming unkillable infinite DPS demons just by putting 3 points into ult and then pressing 4
>>559582532Because this entire update fucking sucks
>>559582787She always needed a precise kit of items HOWEVERJust last thread people pointed out she already had no room for utility items even pre-nerf
>>559582558that's a man
>>559582558>installed this dude's Graves mod>proportions are so poorly done that I just close the game and delete the file because it was the polar opposite of erotic because he gave her an ugly BBL
reminder that calico is never getting a redesign
>>559582818what hero did you get nerfed that made you cry poor baby
Never ask an ixian supremacist the species of his girlfriend
>>559582890Is it the same Graves mod that's floating around here? Because same. The one that's always posted here looked okayish in screenshots but it's fucking hideous disgusting niggerbrain BBL shit in game. Ugly.
>>559582787Silver always was one of the more item reliant chars what the fuck are you smoking?
>>559582997If Graves using the lich hand to jack off Apollo is that cuckquean?
i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman i hate doorman
>>559583021The very same. It's funny too because the dude hid every angle of her ass in the preview screenshots
the devs need to put down the crack pipe and rethink their lives after this patch
Someday soon we're going to hear Silver went to the local cornerstore and bought herself a box of silver bullets...The guy behind the counter will tell the cops who come asking she seemed unusually quiet and reserved that day, but she was a familiar face and a good customer so he didn't ask questions...They're renting her old apartment out for cheap, but nobody seems to want it... The bloodstains don't seem to want to come out...
>>559583131enjoy your stay at the baroness :)
Silver feels kinda unplayable as fuck lol
>>559583223nta but i hate him when hes on my team. enemy team doorman is free win
>>559583213idk if the Egg is worth it. Got it at 5 minutes in, game finished at 33 minutes with me winning. I didn't even sell it, but if I did I would have gotten 2200 souls. That doesn't feel like that much, especially with the -10% damage. It could work fine on Rem and Paige, but i dunno.
>Emissary 6>Don't play for like 3 days>Archon 3What the fuck.
>>559583410everyone else simply improved that fast
>>559583482Anon I UP-RANKED.
okay?
I've won every Ivy match since the patch, here are my thoughts.>KudzuWorse early, insane later. Building full mystic makes it very, very hard to escape the colossal damage area. Building support/utility/tank it's still a really strong crowd control tool.>TetherI like it for selfish reasons. Having the tether always up means I can invest in movement later or never at all in the case of my mystic build, since Ivy already has a good stamina pool, now has lower gravity and the tether provides a permanent movement boost. For support playstyles it's complicated since you no longer have the ability to burst heal two tethered teammates but also having a permanent insane buff like that can make your ballistic carry unkillable.>Stone FormActually absurd damage in mystic builds and I could easily explode people for half their health. The % heal decrease is very noticeable, but the shorter cooldown feels nice.>Air DropI don't know how to feel about this. Good nuke for mystic, very strong later on. For support it feels better as an engage tool, especially for bringing allies to losing fights and turning the tides. Yet, having the damage restriction like ziplines is fucking awful for getting yourself or your allies out of trouble. I really, really dislike that part. I like the speed boost but it's almost overkill with how much mobility it provides you on such a short cooldown.Overall I'm very pleased.
>>559583525oh uhdamn, you're gawdlike
>>559583553changing flight from a save and ganking tool to exclusively a ganking tool was an immensely lame change
this was actually a huge patch, huh. and I totally need to recook my builds.
>see Silver's performance in comp>think "surely valve buffs her">Silver: Mauling Leap damage scaling reduced from 1.9 to 1.5>Silver: Lycan Curse cooldown increased from 35s to 50s>Silver: Lycan Curse base health bonus reduced from 100 to 75>Silver: Lycan Curse no longer grants +14% Bullet and Spirit Resistance>Silver: Lycan Curse no longer grants +2m Move SpeedBro what THE FUCK?Actually unplayable. The movement speed one is fucking horrible, she's a melee monster who already struggles to get close and stay on people which is why people have to buy movement and slowing items out the ass already
LMAO, remove transcended cooldown and spirit burn and add a couple of scarabs and basically same damage, 3000~ damage on a single 3 for mirage
>>559583830secret play test players demanded she get nerfed
>>559583835Would anon's go bounty hunting with Silver?
How do you know if you're in low prio queue and how do you get out of it?
>>559583212I hate this fucking patch so much. Most miserable fucking matches I've ever dealt with in this game
Buying rapid recharge and surrounding myself in walls
>>559583553I'm having a blast building for ult damage and nuking the shit out of people fighting on the other side of the mapult -> wait a bit -> kudzu -> lightning scroll's stun -> kudzu's stun -> stone form
>>559583830Redditors said she was OP, twitch chat said she was OP, pros said she was OP, that's why she HAD to be gutted ok?
>>559583890Even the /fit/test anon would be a liability to a werewolf on a bounty hunt.... although maybe not after this last patch, actually.
>>5595839021. I'm pretty sure it LITERALLY tells you with a big read message about being in low prio and needing to win a certain number of games to get out2. you'll be on basically russian/baltic servers with the BLYATTT in voice chat and ping to match
>>559583830sorry it's just a wave clear tool
>>559583989>>559583830>>559583870kill yourself furries diving a t1 tower for 60 seconds straight was not okay>>559583918>>559583212sorry your main got nerfed gonna have to actually learn how to play the game now sorry!!!!
If you're gonna buy golden goose egg, you may as well buy trophy collector too...Think about it deadtards.........
never queue after midnightMMR assassins lurk in the darkness...
>>559583830game isn't even in open beta and already ruined by the influence of wannabe esports faggot shittery by fake pros, 99% of which will literally be gone and forgotten the moment this hits a mainstream audience and they are no longer big fish in a small pond (same fate for 95% of current "big" deadlock streamers)
>>559584143and don't forget your cult sac!
Just the BRTRTRTRTRTRTRTRTRTRTR of Wraith is so fucking annoying
>>559584178>welcome is the welcome mat for the enemy to step onits like poetry...
>>559582668I pray this nigga gets his knees blown off come the 17th
>>559583942you can build a house for her now that she's homeless
@yoshi where's my female ixian??? not even some new datamines???
Here's your goose egg rush dynamo broI almost think he might be onto something
>>559584178me, the MMR assassin
>>559584184TRVKEEEEE N4KEEEESo many faggots grinding this game like their future depends on it
>Silver is op she could dive towers and get double kills like crazy once she got ult?>can you dive towers and get double kills as silver?>...
>>559584281He will become stronger, Honda will receive nerfs.
I have second-hand embarrassment for Shiv what the fuck were they thinking
>>559584072I have never played even one game as Silver, I could not give a shit about Silver.
>>559584357yes I could retard it took literally 0 effort
>>559584389The Shiv rape in the same patch as this Wraith horseshit. What a fucking joke.
>>559584389I got absolutely stomped the 5 times I played that ape recently and they somehow made him even more cucked.
jsut won a game with a paige and rem going 10+ deaths
why did holliday get zero good buffs? im tired of being a barrel bot
>>559584325midas enigma...home...
man playing M&K is stressful as fuck
>>559584716your supposta lasso people not do damage my gay friend
>>559584072this is this guy's whole identity btw he shits on silver and goes "ur a furry" thats your ENTIRE personality its so sad
>>559584072>uh oh i'm under tower and ate silver's 1 like a retard I am!>what do i dooooo!!!!!>silver transforms>you press [Space] once>attach yourself to zipline>silver is literally, indisputably, not figuratively, straight, unerringly, unmistakably, veritably uselessIt is that easy little bro
>>559581639Holy fucking shit, this thing is crazy, the extra range hits the entire fucking lane, and people can't even really rush you down either, the range just engulfs your body if you're near a wall. It absolutely shreds everything in its path. I feel like I broke the fucking Geneva convention
>>559584716Yoshi believes she is perfectly balanced
>>559584794ok but you are a furry? sorry!!!>>559584821what happens if they have a teammate and silver isnt solo laning in your imaginary situation
>>559583021Low T
Why is Holliday divorced multiple times? is she the problem?
>>559584767but I wanna be a rootin tootin shooting cowboy not a bondage sissy :(
>>559584862Then your teammate probably helps you
>>559584828Yeah it's nice.
What the fuck were they smoking with viscous yoshit please hotfix that its insane how good his 1 is.
>>559584357>>559584468>>559584072>silver can dive towers!!!!why aren't you ulting the silver to punish her diving tower unless you lost lane against one of the worst laners in the game
>>55956672ixed lee buffsThey're not even buffs for Viscous, most of the changes to him were nerfsThey just fixed the bug on his puddle punches that meant every single melee item or weapon damage item had no effect on their scalingNow they actually do damage instead of just kind of annoying the enemy team.
>>559584359> Honda will receive nerfs.Good
>>559584875she kept moaning troubadour during sex
>>559584862Then you spam "What's the plan?" and "Thanks" because your teammate left the lane for some reason.
What's the point of the other heroes if Yoshi wants me to main Seven + Wraith + Bebop?
>>559584325Hes ultbotting. he doesn't need that 10% damage
Paige is one nasty bitch
what exactly did they do to Haze? she's in basically every single match now and dominates every time, even when half my team buys metal skin
>>559584995they did insane damage late game, don't even want to see what they do now
Hello babes <3 being a paige otp is so fun
viscous is actually incredibly fucking retarded as if he wasn't already a thorn on your side before
>>559585258good girl
>>559582972I play lash. By comparison he's barely changed other than losing death slam distance for endgame throws into spawn. I'm mad because rem is still op, Abrams is still op, Celeste is still op, etc while doing retarded shit like giga nerfing silver.
Still continuing to spectate SilversI have seen a total of 2 wolf forms actually used to hit enemy heroes, and only 1 of those 2 actually did significant damage to any enemy heroAll others were spent either desperately running away, or hitting creeps/running down lane since the fight was already over.What a patch.
>>559585198she just got buffed
Big winners and losers this patch? I'm thinking of picking pocket back up a bit.
>Waifu character has a giant playerbase of shitters constantly whining how awful she isIt's actually a testament to Silver's strength that she could get an over 50% winrate while being played by Silverfags. Like nobody argues Mina isn't busted and she can't manage that.
>>559585258
>>559585336big winner Celeste she's ridiculously broken and didnt even get touched barelybig loser?Silver
what heroes are my shivheads pivoting tomost translatable is calico i guess but ive been keeping it meta and exploring the other balance turbo cancer bebop
>>559585347It's weird how eternus players are only good when you need them to be for your argument bro
>>559584937If you build cooldown and range that shit feels way too busted.>>559584995They buffed melee and fixed his interactions with all melee items so that skill can hit like an atomic bomb.
>>559585206>they did insane damage late gameHeavy melee damage with no scaling is what it felt likeIt wasn't nothing, but it was still mostly good for throwing people out of position and moving yourself and teammatesNow that it actually benefits from items though you can do some insane shitI wouldn't be surprised if a nerf is incoming just because of how fucking oppressive he is now
>Melee Venator untouchedBACK DAMN YOU *executes you*
>>559585293Thank youuu! We should duo sometime!! <3>>559585356oh my..
gross
Shivbros, we are jumping ship to Vindicta.
so let me get this straight, they nerfed spirit geist even more and pigeonholed her further into being a gun hero?
I really don't want to rethink all my builds when everything is going to continue to be tuned over the next week.
>>559585385Can someone explain to me why Celeste is broken? Is it just her movement? She seems kinda mid other than her ult being good against braindead people like lich ult always has
the drifter buffs are a ton of fun but having to be right next to them to get melee items from rend means melee lifesteal is just unuseable now. people are going to spend the entire time out of that range under tower outpoking you because that's how you beat drifter and even if I get a mark teleport and hit rend asap they can just airdash out of the range so I still don't heal.TLDR: how do I live in big poke lanes now, do I just have to stack regens or what
>>559585408Silver, but Shiv is fine he's just not meta
>get right in someone's face>put 9 rounds into their forehead>they just stand there laying into me>press 4>winAt what rank do people start learning to not be within four feet of me?
>>559585258>Hello babes <3>paige otpI'm really fucking horny it's Friday night and all I wanna do is goon you should be my Paige and let me make pumpies for you and take all my pent up cocksludge
>>559584178i just sit in spawn afk and watch videos, every few minutes i auto attack. so far haven't been punished and saves time to get into the next game
>>559585653hug cover like everyone else
goth paige is the real and canon and true one
altfire on silver where she shoots herself?
Does rapid recharge affect Wraith's card buildup?
>>559585642>stupid crazy movement that mogs every character, not even a movement skill like vyper's entire third passive (got a slight nerf)>auto aim>huge shield that silences attackers>anti-team fight ultimate (got a slight nerf)
Silver taking up prostitution to pay her rent...
>>559585720*throws an aoe the size of the lane behind your cover*
why do people bitch so much about silver wolf form when slam fire is her actual good abilitiywolfform is just either pubstomp ability or "FUCK I GOTTA GO NO WAY I CAN DO THIS SHIT"
They did not need to buff the size of the fist this much, I liked where he was at but I love this
>>559585835why is she clothed then?
>>559585903>>559585527are you still able to just parry it normally?
PUNCH VISCOUS IS ABSOLUTELY NIGGARDLY INSANE RIGHT NOW
>>559585690Hmmmm.. That sounds rather interesting....Im in! <3Who do you play hun
>>559585893>wolfform is just either pubstomp ability or "FUCK I GOTTA GO NO WAY I CAN DO THIS SHIT"And that's a bad thing
>>559585642>4 second silence AoE>2 powerful spirit damage AoEs with innate lifesteal>ult as oppressive as Seven's with basically none of the ability to counter it, and refunds half of itself if she somehow fumbles it>insane mobility and air control that just got buffed>her M1 will literally redirect itself towards players if shot towards the ground making aiming easierShe's just so, SO strong especially in a teamfightGenuinely the only reason a team with a celeste loses a teamfight is if the celeste is a fucking retard
it was a fucking miracle.
>>559585927Yes, but can you parry the second and third?
>>559585903what in the fuck were they thinking...
>>559585927Yeah, he just actually punished you if you don't now, as opposed to moving you around and doing 200 damage
Mirage is complete trash. I don't understand why people say this hero is strong.
>Devs buff Doorman so his ult cd drops to 10s if the target doesnt escape>I buy Refresher to ult them immediately anywayIt's about sending a message
>>559585973>ult as oppressive sevenjust walk away bro
>>559585972so people bitching about wolfform are actually ritualist tier fags, gotcha
>>559583553If you hang back it's still a good save-tool because of the generous pickup range, and if you manage to avoid taking damage for the first 3 seconds of the damage cooldown (for example by running around a corner) you can stoneform the next 3 seconds and instantly fly away out of it!Personally I enjoy the fact that it's more aggressively oriented now but it's not completely lost it's original capabilities, just added a few hurdles
The year is 2027. The entire lane is covered in massive fucking area of effect skills.
>>559586140Yes, they are, always have been
the year is 2040. silver is one of the lowest picked heroes after all her players die of AIDS
I <3 BEING AN IVY MAIN xPme thinks ultmaxxing may be the way to go now :3
>>559586183the abrams with no items sprints through it like a freight train killing anyone who sees him
I uninstalled. I was having fun for a while but I'm starting to feel the moba anger I used to feel when I played Dota.Goodbye.
>>559586250how many months on E, sis?
>>559586250no.chudzu max with slowness so I can shoot them easier.
>>559586272How many times are you gonna announce you're uninstalling today, fuck off already
>>559581396Its not as gimmicky as youd think. Its not much investment to make it work and you can just specifically hunt the people you know cant get out in time. Its insanely strong when it goes well.
>>559586110>just walk away broYou do realize that forcing the entire enemy team to disperse and isolate themselves for easy picks IS the main use of both ults right? Or do your seeker lobbies get sick teamwipes on people too stupid to take cover from Seven.Hell, atleast Seven has to sit there channeling his bullshit, Celeste can fire her ult and then still take part in the teamfight
>How many times are you gonna announce you're uninstalling today
>>559586183People still insists that Silver is broken Shiv is now killed off and replaced by Gordon Freeman
Geist bros, where are we in the meta right now? Should I hop off the new heroes and start granny grinding? I'm close to ranking upIs she stronger than Apollo in high rank?
I've played 5 low ranked matches and we haven't killed the mid boss onceWhen should I ping our team to do it? Not familiar with the timing
>>559586361calm down yoshi
>>559586371in fairness I have tried it 0 times
>>559586250Good, another easy target for me to bully and mugt. Vyperchad
>>559586293about tree fiddy>>559586330even with mystick i can barely get the immobilize without hitting a max stonie as well, which is what i max after ult :3
>>559586454When enemies are busy defending their base against troopers or fucking ded but a strong enough carry could also eat one up at any time
>>559586441Let me grind my ass on your face.
>>559586454Forget about midboss until you're like low Alchemist. Low ranks don't even know that midboss exists.Generally you want to ping midboss when you killed 3+ of their team.
>>559586601nigger
how good is the porn in the book for every single character to have a voice line about it wanting it when they kill Abrams?
>>559586640>>559586603Oh okay, so basically do it to snowball your advantage further when the enemy is reelingThanks bros
>>559586624answer the damn question
>>559586752Seven explicitly says "I don't want your book cause I'm not a fucking idiot"
>>559576229Calm down, Mina!
i have revised my build some, its really hard to pick what to get since it feels like this character can build whatever the fuck she wants from spirit to gun to even a support build so i guess this is just a basic hybrid one since i wanted all my 4.8k things what else should i put for lategame items i could buy??
wraith needs a hotfix nerf
>>559586441APOLLO IS STILL UBERBROKEN change nothing and keep playing him.
>>559585958I wanted to do it over discord!>>559586624I've only been lightly rubbing my hard cock through my pants but I can tell all around the head is moist with precum
Vindicta is actually good now that you can get ult stacks from assists. Weapon damage has a soul value of something like 60-80 souls per 1%, so you basically get the old soul bounty's worth of stats from ult kills. Now that you only have to tag the enemy with your ult within 4 seconds of them dying, it's really easy to get 150%+ weapon damage from your ult.Just build a core of Mercurial Magnum, Rapid Recharge, Spiritual Overflow and Boundless Spirit with supporting attack speed items of your choice (e.g. Burst Fire, Kinetic Dash) and enjoy the free gun damage.
Who's OurGuy when it comes to Deadlock streamers?
>get home>browse builds>every fucking build has goose eggalright
>>559585297Damn, ritualist is crazy
Witchmail Silver.
>>559586961do you think her spirit build is still good
>>559587013Yeah, I hear ritualist lobbies get put up the top of the spectate selection menu these daysRetard
>>559586925Hehe sure! Filename <3
>>559586998that's because GOOSE EGG IS REALLY GOOD! ok ok. abuse it while it lasts. im abusing it right now. :P
paradox gonna hit sub 40% winrates
>>559586968>Who's OurGuy when it comes to Deadlock streamers?Lefaa
Just woke up. Did this patch fix the godawful matchmaking and cancerous snowballing or no?
>>559582668>>559584359>>559585000Eww, capcucks
Who is /ourgirl/
Silver's hairy asshole
>>559587190actually the patch made everything about the game worse
>>559587190>Did this patch fix
egg is retarded just do you sinner's
>>559587047I think you have to go a gun/spirit hybrid on her and there really isn't any other viable option.If you go pure spirit you have pitiful firerate so you waste the gun damage stacks from your ult, and if you go pure gun your ult does pitiful damage and you waste the M1 spirit scaling on Flight.
>>559587115>heels>on a ladderthis fat bitch is gonna go THUUUDDDD
>>559587115cuteepumpkin_, huh? Weird name for a dude.
>>559587190>snowballingyou don't even play the game
Lash sex
>>559587231>Who is /ourgirl/>>559587232
>>559587273what about support or pure gun now that shes gauranteed a stack every assist..
>>559586781I will if you let me grind my butt on you.
>>559582668>>559584359>>5595850001. BUFF CAMMY2. RELEASE INGRID SO I HAVE AN EXCUSE TO PLAY THIS GAME AND ALSO MAIN INGRID
I can't do it anymore. I'm done with this game.
>>559587231the paigesister that's posting cord in this thread right now.
Why is everyone gooning tonight
>>559586183>it's 2027and you're trying to run urn Imagine if the game went 8v8
ok, this is probably the most disgusting thread I have ever had the pleasure to witness in /dlg/ history...
KELVIN IS CREDIT TO TEAM!
>>559587494This is a very mild thread.
Why do they keep nerfing Lash, the only fun character in the game?
5 game losing streak
>have wraith on your team>win>have wraith on enemy team>losekino..
>>559587607I call it giving them a fighting chance.
>all the highest winrate characters in high ranks are the ugly girlsfemcel domination
I've won every game since the patch dropped therefore the patch is based and cool. Well done Yoshi.
>>559587595it's mild for this board. people ERPing and trading discords is pretty wild for /dlg/
>>559587330I don't see why you would want to build her as a support, none of her spells are supportive.Pure gun could work, but she's obviously meant to be a spirit/gun hybrid because her bullets scale off of spirit in several different ways.
Can someone help explain to a newbie what this means in the patch notes?>Can now jump after slideI mean, you can already do this right? Dash-jump > Slide > Jump > Slide?
>>559586441pretty sure they gutted spirit geist even harder by making her take 30% of the total damage she deals with her bomb
>>559587759>spirit geistYou mean the worst way to play geist since 2024?
>>559587726certain ways of sliding locked out your jump, primarily roll>slide.
Matchmaking has gotten worse since the patch. I'm making a smurf fuck this shit.
>>559587726You used to not be able to jump out of a slide ONLY if it was started from a grounded dash, all other methods worked.Now you can jump out of any slide, no restrictions.
>>559587810i just want to actually interact with her kit, not shoot a gun while ignoring half of her abilities
genuinely what was he cooking
The patch clearly shows they don't have a vision or give a fuck really about the game so I'm uninstalling and going back to the better game dota 2
>>559587839>>559587856Oh so to basically test this I should only do roll to slide? Not roll > jump > slide?
>>559587932i sent yoshi a feedback asking for silence on wall to get removed. lol.
Why is mo and krill a late game hero now
Is it true that Dotafags bullied Ice frog so hard he stopped interacting with the community and changed his name to Yoshi?
>>559587932Honestly don't know why they removed the silence on her wall. Then gave her a mass swap on her t5 soul upgrade for her ult. Honestly, horrendous patch.
>>559587997>>559588109the wall is like a non-ability now, it's so useless
>>559587717mostly because she gets a massive + wpn damage stat block from her ult even if you tickle them with it, so even if you are supportdicta you'll get a lotthen she has a lot of extra item range in her fly and stuffthen she has cc with the tether and can proc whatever she wants with the crows
so what were the good buffs, and the bad buffs>yamato buffgood>wraith buffbad>mirage buffgood>vicious buffgood
>celeste somehow slips through the ban and is on the enemy team>game turns into a 50 minute struggle lossAwesome matchmaking, you should not be allowed in my game if you don't even know who to ban.
>hit 1600 souls>hero instantly barks HEY RETARD GO TO THE SHOPhold on man im busy
>>559588204>Wraith buff>badWhat? She absolutely rapes now.
>>559588276bad because it's busted and obviously too strong
>>559588310Oh that's what you meant then yeah I agree. If she manages to get quad jokers it's fucking over.
Five game losing streak
>>559588392>>559588310i wanna try her, do you just play her like a rat and splitpush the entire game?
>>559587128when do i crack this shit, ideally, sitting at 1.8k now
packmates I dont think im gonna make it
>>559588459That's what I did, just stack shit on bullets and press 3 then watch the walker disappear
Have Vyper's slide trails always been green?
deadlock added eggs because its a game for trans people
>Buying GGS while its 800 souls, for nowHOLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD TRUST THE PLAN
Paradox bombs are actually dealing so much damage
>>559588061It was during Dota 1. Icefrog in his own forums just posted a small thing. >"Here's a picture of my cat."Then a lot of posters went."Fuck that, never post anything like that again. Only post balance patches."After that he never communicated ever again. Even when it became Dota 2. Basically blame the oldfags of Dota 1.
>>559588583because you're not used to seeing themonce people do they do zero damage
>>559587309What do you mean? Every game is a 60k or 70k soul lead
>>559588183Stake is still pretty much total garbage.Flight's extra item range could lead to some interesting gimmicks I guess, though I can't think of anything right now. I feel like the main reason they put it there was to make Warp Stone better mid-flight.I don't see her being great as an actual supportive support, but she does make for a good low farm priority hero, sort of like Sniper in Dota can work as a support but generally doesn't build support items. It's just that farm priority doesn't really exist the way the game is currently played in most skill brackets.
>>559588627Dota 1 oldfags should have bullied him harder desu
>>559587902>gun geist is powerful because her 3 amps and slows, her 2 heals and damages, her ult swaps hp, and her bomb still hurts and helps her farm>"NOOOO I WANT TO SPAM 1 ABILITY FROM 2 MILES AWAY!!!"
>>559588459Once you have around 20k you go around and fight or split push. She's basically too good right now for her own good.
question - so in dota late game if i have all my items ill let my supports farm the creep waves, but in deadlock the lanes are shared. so does it matter who kills the creeps since the creep value will be split between me and my teammates anyways? or should i still let my teammates get the last hit on the creep
>>559588901Last hitting isn't a thing in Deadlock, except for last hitting the soul orb and the only purpose of doing that is to stop the enemy from denying it. Almost all souls are shared except for boxes and sinner's sacrifices.If you're full build and want to give more souls to your team, then don't go near the wave at all. It's not easy to be full build in Deadlock though, most of the time when you hit 12 slots you'll just start replacing the cheaper items with more expensive ones.
>>559588901Doesn't matter who lasthits as long as teammate is close enough to share souls.If you want to let someone farm let them clear waves solo that way they get 100% of souls.
>>559588881New player here. Why this game has this kind of "souls milestone"? I am used to things like in Dota 2 where, "if you have this specific item, you can now go around and fight/push". But here it's souls. "Fight if you only got 20/40k souls" etc. Aren't items more important to know as specific milestones?
yes
>>559589038Souls are both gold and xp, so not only is it item timings but also ability unlocks and stat scaling.
Played Victor for the first time tonight. Had a lot of fun. Wasn't great, but coming from being a big support-only sissy and actually getting kills and watching people panic when I Infuse+fully charge 3 into them is really satisfying. Pocket was definitely making things hard though.Also, between him and Dynamo stomping, I'm really like the sprint jump stuff. Getting into people's faces is really taking people by surprise.
havent seen a single silver in all my games today wow
>>559585680Just buy weighted shots and even in low eternus they'll still get raped.
>>559587309>>559588676seriously what did he mean by this every game is a blowout it blows ass like 1 out of 10 games is remotely close. rejuves are cancer
>>559588901its shared and it doesn't matter who last hits things.there are currently gay eco strats pros do to get early ults/items on one person by having the other guy leave the lane so all the souls go into one person for a bit but its not relevant for matchmaking.
>>559587932Rescue beam on paradox is actually insane now so you can pull your teammates behind your wall to force them to use it
>>559589154maybe it's different in your pisslow thentry picking up the urn for once, you'd be surprised
>>559589187use it to do nothingwall's a piece of shit, i wouldn't waste a single AP on it now
>>559589209predictable response.
>>559589038its the same thing. you can just see your networth in deadlock. but if you have 20k with no items, you can be as useless as a damageless void. if you didnt learn about networth and gold in dota, just think about getting "1k souls per minute" instead in deadlock. grab the items that make your hero strong with that 20k (20 mins or 15 if youre balling) or whatever.
>>559589129I've seen only one, and she DC'd halfway through the match. And I don't blame her at all. It was genuinely sad to watch her trying to fight the Kelvin on our team.
>>559589038Open the shop and hover your mouse over the 3 bars in the bottom left corner. Spending a certain number of souls on items of each category gives you extra stats on top of what you get from the items.
>>559589038you get power spikes depending on the amount of souls you allocate to a stat (orange/green/purple). X amount of souls implies a level of skill upgrades and a specific power spike for said character. This is why souls are the most important thing to have over your opponent as it's their power level. If you see a billy with 15k souls and you have 10k you can bet he's going to fuck you up in a 1v1.
Abrams players will post an edit of an "ebic clip" and it's just them using their ult, punching, then charging and punching again. They are quite literally the reddit grappler players of this game.
>lash picks up the urn>He is all alone>The whole enemy team is alive>I can see at least 2 of them sitting at the urn spot camping via the minimap>Almost none of our team are around the drop spot>Lash keeps going anyway>He dies and they pick up and deliver the urn uncontestedHow can anyone have so little awareness?
>>559589259idk what else to say. early game leads have never felt more pointless than nowif you think having one team being able to capitalize on a leading position is inherently bad you're also retarded
infernus feels better now. having 2 flame dashes without having to invest an item makes him wave clear a lot faster since you don't have to save a dash to escape
>>559589360Droppin' in.
Haze is Missing
>thread is now polluted with ERPadios.>>559589360oh, you mad? 'cause I'm stylin' on you.
what are all those voicelines for now
>>559589612I dont think I'd ever get mad at a nigbop getting crushed
>>559589628it's TIME to kill myself
>>559589360>>559589612
;_;
>45ish minute mark>The minions end up killing half of the patron's health while everyone else is fapping about.Holy HELL they do a lot now.
>>559588901a split wave is a total of 130% souls split between two playerssolo wave is 100% souls to one playeryou decide on which one is better based on characters and scenario
>>559576669Trvke
>geist keeps running into melee range vs graves + abrams>calls me a pussy for not "helping" her (I had 100 hp and already used all my apollo spells)>tell him his positioning just sucks>proceeds to try and jungle to leave me 1v2>gives up and afks in spawn until abandonkek wtf
>>559589976A split wave is only 57% for each player.
>>559580048oh yeahwe're so back
if everyone in the game buys the goose egg then the damage penalty doesn’t exist, you will honor the goose egg pact right?
>>559580048>Let me show you upstairs.
>- Billy: Chain Gang T1 changed from "-25s Cooldown" to "+40% Spirit and Bullet Resist">- Billy: Chain Gang T2 changed from "+15% Spirit and Bullet Resist" to "-50s Cooldown"Why is nobody talking about thisHoly christ 40% resists
>hoo, the spooks are really out today, aren't they?uhh, sure, I guess so...
>>559589913possibly the only good change in the entire patch is the lane/trooper mechanicsyou should not be able to just fucking ignore troopers flooding into your base to fuck off and brool brainlessly
>>559590246>all the enemies buy egg>mfw i buy the +800 souls and +60% damage item every game
Sevenbros...Status?
Someone teach me how to rape niggers on Doormeme
Valve should've made Grave's personality more like pic related.
>>559577985Holliday too, the weirdos of the cast not found in the patch are definitely getting a rework
>>559590423slowing hex and knock down them and ult them
>>559590468holliday and sinclair are both decently strong and have depth, and nobody really cares when they get raped by those guysthus they don't get any patch changes
>>559590304why does her ass look diseased
>>559590286What I say at the 1920s gas station on the wrong side of town
>>559590457which character should be her Viego who she pretends to not care about but who she explicitly obviously pathetically melts for, desperate to have his Monster can-proportioned BWC (big wight cock)
>New to the game>Like Yamato>Look at most popular build>All utility items are on its own tab so I dont know when I should buy them, during lane? After mid items? before? Which order?>Check his youtube video>He teaches you how to play Yamato but he doesnt teach you what Yamato does, ability points, whats good or badI fucking hate this.
>>559590596Don't listen to the caveman he doesn't even play yamato anymore.
>>559590330>you should not be able to just fucking ignore troopers flooding into your base to fuck off and brool brainlesslyIt's not going to stop anyone.
Who were the biggest winners and lovers from this patch?
>>559590594the lich, obviously, she is the kitten in the relationship after all
>>559590674Biggest losers = Shiv and Paradox and Holiday
>>559590596If they have stream link in the description, don't use the build. Look for something that sounds up your alley and has annotations.
Silver was genuinely balanced before the patch, good but with a fuckton of weaknesses and counterplay.Does Yoshi even play the game?
I'm going to quit. I'm only getting worse
>Get in a game with supposed old deadlock players>From when the game first came out>They're complaining about how much the game has changed>We stomp their shit in>This game is so ass now!!>Didn't elaborate on what is different from then to now>Their movement was absolute dogshit as well>Meanwhile my team was corner boosting, wall jumping and air strafing like godsAny oldhead deadlock players here tell me has this game changed a lot from what it use to be back in 2024?
>>559590674paradox and mirage lost bigly
>>559589271I'm not a dota 2 head, what the hell is this gif conveying. Did they guy like suicide rush a ward and then not even kill it what happened? Was that his ult or something?
Doorman is just a fucking assassin now. Maybe it wont be so good once people start regularly counter buying you but rushing your ult after putting two points in bell and buying cold front is disgustingly strong. Just target people that dont have a free escape and theyll get deleted. If they buy counter spell, you still get your ult in another ten seconds so you can just do it again. Its very funny.
>>559590770fanfiction
>>559590770back then there were fewer movement trannies
>>559590752no he has the 25~ e-celeb and fake pro players play the game on the top secret real test server and then listens to literally everyone one of their retarded braindead ego driven suggestionsnote, the public "test" servers are only called test servers, and their users testers, to maintain the facade that the "closed alpha test" is anything but FOMO marketing by Valveyou are nothing but an insignificant pleb and prole unpaid advertiser and number on a chart to Valve, if you actually answer any of the little "rate this" questions that pop up you are genuinely embarrassing yourself
>>559590674Doorman doesn't feel much different late game but he's now an absurdly strong laner again so I guess its a win overall.
Day 1 of praying they undo the victor changesMaking his pain battery op in exchange for neutering his 3 was not a fair deal.
>>559590752I think her ult could have been nerfed and that these nerfs individually are fine but using all of them at once was too much. The movement speed nerf and the resist nerf are the real killers and would have been more than enough on their own. Absolutely kills any chance of item choice variety, too.
>>559590882I like fanfiction
>>559590752get raped faggot LOL
>>559590770Two biggest changes are>walljump>item slots changed from 16 slots split between orange/green/purple/flex, to 12 universal slots
>Rem still sleeper OP, while they gut Silver your walkers die in seconds if you take a teamfightany lane is lost against himyou can't kill him unless you catch him solo stealing sinnershis pillow still has more damage than dedicated spirit burst heroesgun Rem does insane amounts of damage while keeping all of his utilityall because he's a wholesome chungus beloved by redditors
Echo shard tornado Mirage is now the arabian whirlwind?
>>5595907701. this didn't happen2. movement autists are one half step away at best from literal tranny speedrunners>Meanwhile my team was corner boosting, wall jumping and air strafing like godshalf your made up team is currently taking estrogen or will transition within the next 5 years
>>559590937All that plus nerfing Lifestrike and boosting half the CC items' CDs
appealing to movement trannies unironically has killed this gamedash jump was enough
>>559590770Half the movement tech didn't exist like mantleboosting or walljumps, which in extension made it so corner or edgeboosts didn't exist.
>gets shit on all game by Silver as Graves>1-6>final push get 4 kills including that Silveri definitely contributed that game
>>559590596For playing character first time get a build that has items in somewhat left to right order and at least some explanations.That build you have has half the store thrown in and could be organized better.
>>559589413lash knew the game was over and wanted to end quickly
>assblasted by people putting in time to learn movement skills>has to resort to calling them trannieslol. game too hard 4 u?
Does silver even exist now, or did she get shot out behind the shed?
>>559590770>Any oldhead deadlock players here tell me has this game changed a lot from what it use to be back in 2024?Yes, but the mmr used to majorly shift based on who could learn and adjust to weird ass patches faster back then too.If they are complaining then they weren't any good.
>>559590920What's even funnier is that if you assume he's balancing for these fake pros, Silver's performance has been unimpressive in all of these pro games.
>>559590882>>559591034But it literally happened. Bet you guys are faggot for fun players. Good luck keeping up as the game gets more popular while you try to do your gay congo lines. While being heckin wholesome chungus.
>>559590812Sven ults (turns big and red, does lots more damage with attacks) and runs into the enemy team, accidentally casts his AOE stun on a summoned mob instead of any enemy heroes.This was in a TI wildcard qualifier in 2013.
>>559591050truethe gap between someone with basic movement knowledge and someone who can go from lane to lane in 3 seconds is huge, it will eventually lead to new players just dropping the game by being killed by someone zooming around corners without a chance to fight backimagine if in Dota every hero had mobility by default and ypu could bounce from terrain for speed
>screaming about shiv being useless>meanwhile 1 dagger does 1500 damage at 20k soulsUh...
I'm gonna experiment with a "no ult silver" buildOptionally I won't unlock the ult until I can t3 it instantly after unlocking it
>>559591147>Yoshi BalancingPartly statistics, partly pro play, partly retards mass complaining, partly valve employees reading things in random places and then some random shit he feels like tryingYou can figure out which is which when you get the next patch
>>559591147>Silver's performance has been unimpressive in all of these pro gamesAnon, that doesn't dispove what I said, it just proves he listens to them to a fault, he listens to what they SAY AND SUGGEST and not any demonstrable results they can give him.They have, since week 1, first picked or first banned her and insisted, week after week, failure to perform after failure to perform, that she is INSANE! and the treatment in the patch reflects that all of their actual gameplay showing otherwise.
>>559590812>>559591213for a deadlock equivalent this would be abrams whiffing a 4+ man charge combo hitting only a graves skele with the follow-up melee.
>>559591213lmao okay that's fucking funny. Have a capybara for your efforts.
So is it a requirement to be an annoying whiny faggot when you play Ivy? It's either that or they're going negative feeding. I can count on one hand the number of good ivy players I've had.
Do i really have to learn how to strafe jump to play this game? I fucking hate that shit.
>>559591462Yes, it insane movement value.
>>559591256For what purposeYou might as well play a good gun hero if you're gonna do that
>>559591462Not if you're good at other things, I run into plenty of eternus players who barely know any movement tech.
>>559591462yes if you don't learn it then gabe newell will personally fry your machine no. retard. obviously not
>>559591286>They have, since week 1, first picked or first banned her and insisted, week after week, failure to perform after failure to perform, that she is INSANE! and the treatment in the patch reflects that all of their actual gameplay showing otherwise.TRVST IN THE PLVNPOTENTIAL WOMAN WILL SHINESHIV 2.0
>>559591462you WILL refrain from hitting the W key
>>559590714None of the top builds have annotations worht a damn
echo shart splatter is incredible OP now what the fuck is valve thinking
>>559591539I want to play Silver, not another gun character
>play like shit>win>play like shit>lose>play like shit>win>play like shit>win>finally, after several matches, actually play well>>>lose
>>559591089This is a trash Yamato build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKn9JId0W-Iholy fuck this guy is insane at the game... i wish i was him for sure!
>>559591651team based games are 10% your skill 90% the luck of the matchmaker. slay the spire has less RNG than deadlock.
>>559591594They aren't thinking
>>559591594>echo shart splatter is incredible OP now what the fuck is valve thinkingThey were giving viscous back options other than going all in on puddle punches asap
>fought a competent turret mcginnisdamn this is annoying
so what exactly was the thought process by making melee viscous broken as fuck? even if you parry one melee, he already has another one instantly queued, not to mention if you miss a single parry then you're perma-cc'd
>>559591762she got turbonerfed because she used to make people seethe, so play her before the public whines her back into being worthless
>>559591764Just parry again lmao, parry has 0 CD if you land one successfully.
Drifter's ult makes him look like he's naruto running across the map now lmao
The pierce on Doorman's gun lets you delete all of Graves' skulls as soon as she throws them. The hitbox is so fucking big that it just pierces and hits all of them.
So building melee items on drifter is a waste now right?
>>559591462nah they'll get rid of it eventually
>>559590596>>559590714>>559591586as recently as like 2 months ago I could find a build in like, the top 8, that had at least partial and sometimes even HEAVY annotationsseems as the game has become more mainstream and hyped by influencer faggots all the top builds are literally just a fucking list of items with no effort put in whatsoever to shill their twitch channelseven if they ARE literally the "best [_____] player in the world!!!!" it's still fucking uselessyou're better off watching a video guide or several about itemization and which items are good (except they're like, all fucking outdated now) or even video guides on characters similar in role (i.e. "spirit building tank/"gun m1gger") getting a good grasp of what items do (and watching a video on SITUATIONAL/COUNTER ITEMS specifically) and then being able to in turn discern for yourself mostly why someone would build what they buildanyway game is fucked by this patch completely, you should uninstall and come back in 8 months when it's another entirely different meta defining patch and hope it's better (cause they won't revert this, not their style)
>>559591856>just perfectly parry mid-teamfight 5 times in a row when you can't see the ability coming out and the sound queue is extremely quiet
i have gotten a postiive kda in my past 50+ games i literally do not understand how you can chain feed just play with your team if you're doing that bad
>>559591764You buy an 800 soul item and when you parry three times in a row and get locked in one place you're not doing nothing but instead lowering viscous' health in half.
>>559584716They're working on a rework
>>559584716
>>559591969Oh yeah well I got a positive kda in my past 51 games get fucked I win lmao
Man Silver really feels like shit now.
Can't believe the next update is gonna feature the Holliday, Vyper, Sinclair remodels + reworks
>>559591968>AAAIIIIEE I HAVE TO THINK AND PLAY THE GAME I CAN'T JUST M1 A PROBLEM AWAYWhy are m1ggers like this
>>559591462if you want to truly "git gud" and be "LE TOP STREAMER/PRO GAMER" (without a pre-existing audience) it is impossible you are basically running a 100 meter dash with crutches if you don't use movement tranny autism techniquesif you just wanna get up to the equivalent of fucking... Diamond rank or some shit or LOW masters then yeah you can skip all that if your other fundamentals are good, just grind
>>559592184idk anon, why can't you play the game without relying on an ability that is nearly impossible to see coming out and does half your hp if you don't see it? and it has 5 charges? and he cannot be caught out ever because his ultimate is a free escape tool that has no counter?
doorman is sending people to hotel california every five fucking seconds right now jesus christ
>>559592151Gray Talon too
>>559585893Because they're terrible shittersNever had issues dealing with werewolf form
Did they fuck up the lighting in brool? Everything's bathed in a sunset glow
Oldfagbros...How long do you think it'll be until these newfags recognize the implications of that +1 on Haze's ult and the "press 4 recieve 6 kills" build returns to the meta?
>>559592230>idk anon, why can't you play the game without relying on an ability that is nearly impossible to see coming out and does half your hp if you don't see it? and it has 5 chargesWraith cards>and he cannot be caught out everWraith teleportIt's time to find an honest character to play.
>>559592283I'm just glad her invis cleanses again
>>559592335literally my first wraith game ever i dont know why you assume i main her
>>559592236>he finally found out a large group of faggots were not completing the doorman ult
Mi tink mi gwaan reap what mi sow
>>559591651I'm on an insane losing streak right now and with each match I only get worse.
What does paradox even do now
>>559590274cuz that's how it was before anyway.
>3 minute queue to find a game in fucking oracledead game
>>559591687if youre an npc then yes that is true, if youre making it happen with pings or god forbid actually voicing your plan then you can win many games!
>>559588204Yamato is nerfed
>>559592465farm clips with aoe swaps you hit once every sometimes
I'm a newfag, is this viable?
Would you rather your teammate be>0/3/10or>8/15/10
>>559592415I think you may be confusing me with Mina? I don't know how to sew.
>>559592585Latter because assists mean nothing in this game.
>>559592564yeah bump it up to 12%
>>559592574>hehe I just pulled you all into close range with my team
Pocket is such a disgusting nigger right now, jesus christ
>>559592709>I AM THE COSMOS
I just had a perm roaming calico that lost our blue walker to minions 7 minutes into the game flame my entire teams macro while she was forc8ng skirmishes for t1 and 2 jungle camps all game long. How can people lack this much self awareness man it's genuinely pathetic.
>>559591286TrvkeYoshi is a fucking idiot for listening to these retards
>hits her skill shot bomb carbine combo and then waits another 15 seconds to do it again>it does the same damage a drifter 1 does, or a geist bomb>wall might as well not exist>ult is a suicide buttonepic
I am officially in Archon now
>>559592578human players could just airjump before they even reached the spawn room. The only real spawnroom meming one can do now is with Lash
>>559592906Buy Vortex Web and Echo on herTrust me, you'll see
>>559593045How deep is your voice?
>>559592906I hate how in HotS, Artanis was a beefy tank that had a reason to charge into the enemy team. Meanwhile what the fuck is Paradox gonna do in close range against 5 opponents? Plus 50% of the time the hero you swapped is the frontline initiator who just got a free warpstone
>>559593058didn't they reduce his range for the drop off so he can't do that anymore?
>>559593118Doesn't matter, I don't use my mic or talk to people
>>559593186I saw it happen only 5 days ago. Caught like 4 enemies, and Rem immediately ulted as well it was horrifying. I was already dead so I could only watch
>>559592875Its a good example of not taking everything these guys say at face value. Pros/Ecelebs are biased and can fall for dumb bullshit just like the rest of us.Its telling that every silver overplayers will scream about her being OP but not name a single thing about her that is strong. JUST HIT YOUR SHOTS BROAll of these so called pros must have better aim than any of us and will go 0/10 on her constantly.
>tfw ive played since 2024 and still can't walljump properlyis my unc brain too rotted to play this game?
melee yamato viable?
>>559593236she dumpsters early and early mid game because her wolf form is retardedly powerful when the enemy doesn't have enough money to buy counters but after around 20k souls she sucks so fucking badso you get shitters wining lanes with her win early kit and blaming the team when everything falls apart as the late game creeps in
>>559591969it's called making space if you hide like a pussy sure you wont die but you also guaranteed lose if the enemies are farming more
>>559593108what about the alchemical flask
>>559593245>is my unc brain too rotted to play this game?not really, as long as you can play and have fun unless you really were planning on climbing to e6 and streaming/joining a team for some reason
>>559591969my kda is garbage but I always have the most souls and objective damage fight me
>>559593236Tournamentfags are just as biased and emotional as the average seeker russian teenager with anger issues.They scream and whine about X hero despite there being no evidence of hero X being nearly as good as they say.Yoshi is a fucking idiot for listening to these people and taking their words in full faith.
>a permanent green fart cloud follows Ivy when she maxes out her Kudzu ConnectionDiaperfags will have a ball with this one
>be absolute shitter>get a duo lane of Infernus and HazeI know better players can build around them effectivelyBut holy shit my lane got stomped
>>559593689just rush plated
ivy and pocket should be hotfixed like now. these characters are not okay
>>559593738100% anti heal btwVictor mains crying in the cuck shed right now
>>559593842>>559593842
Possibly the best deadlock patch so far
>>559580237I'm workshopping some ideas for a bit of a gentler smut scene, actuallyTossing up between either having it the night before the Ritual, she comes back to the bar early because she wants one more nice night in case she diesOr after completing the Ritual, where she's a bit battered and fucked up, and wants to celebrate by blowing off some steamStill thinking about it but I'd welcome input before committing either way, I can think of a few nice scenes for either one
>>559593236Get raped kekw
>>559591129If you pick her on my team I'm reporting you
