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Buy Me Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>559642403
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ivy is an ugly insect and DEI
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>>559662236
shan't be buying
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every time i hop on a zipline as paige her thighs distract me
god motherfucking damn
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punch viscous fucks now
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Hey, that's my periods in the OP!
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so this is why deadlock exists

yoshi is trying to crack eggs
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I'm going to try playing Haze
How does she function? Split push? Roaming ganker? AFK farming hypercarry? What's the deal
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Sex with Venator
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>>559662381
point crosshair at man
press m1
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>>559662352
Her and Geist are the worst foe that.
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>>559662381
Roam early with knife, then this >>559662420
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>>559662440
Geist's ass is ridiculous
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>haze, infernus, wraith all instantly dominate every single match they're in
very fun patch, i love the most faggot ass heroes being the strongest in the game
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>>559662298
She's not an insect, she's a gargoyle!
And she's not DEI, she's cute and lovely and built for big happy family!
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@559662643
generic spic avatar
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How do we feel about having a literal child predator on the team
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>>559662367
i guess thank god that's all they are
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>>559662629
Niggers rule this game, kiddo.
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>>559662381
My games with Haze were fucking terrible. Never again.
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>>559659879
Sorry bro but shotguns don't work with mercurial magnum. You get one proc per shot, not one proc per hit, and since it's a shotgun with multiple pellets its base damage is technically fucking dismal
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>>559662236
This game needs all the girls to have big fat dumpys for me to goon to.
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>>559662367
>Vyper shits out literal gold on a monthly basis
>She is too stupid to realize its worth so she just throws it away/eats it
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>Oh, god, NOT AGAIN-
>AWOOOOOO-oooof
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apollo fucked me in the ass 4 times within ten minutes and rage quit and i got banned
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Stop increasing bullet velocity from high velocity rounds it used to be like 30% and 5% damage now we're double that and 8% damage for a 800 soul item
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how does the hero priority system work? like if I have every single hero except one at a higher priority level is that effectively the same as not having that 1 no priority hero enabled, or does it just shift odds around?
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>>559662908
Here you go bro look at the size of this one
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>>559663001
I don't have a transformation fetish but that line gives me a boner.
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>>559663037
oh man, you ragequit? you must have had to wait 15 minutes to queue, super hardcore man
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who are some fun heroes who can carry but if you lose no one is looking at you to blame?
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I should be allowed to scalp my stupid nigger teammates
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>>559663001
>>559663018
>15 seconds apart
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Are there any other team games that aren't infested by troons like this dogshit game?
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Silver is unironically a troll pick now
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>>559662328
Buy it or I buff it again.
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>paradox ult changed and the wall has the silence again
GOOD now give back the damage on the wall for the swap combo
and i hope that anon that was saying the changes were good kills himself
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>>559663183
Her butt is way bigger in wolf form
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>>559663168
Nobody knows exactly how it works, although in my experience the only time I don't get my top priority hero is when A) it's banned, or B) somebody else has it, so I assume the answer is technically yes because if you have like 14 heroes at top priority you're assured to get ONE of them because there's no reason not to
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>nobody buys cc aside from me
>enemy team has perma silence
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>>559663168
I have 3 heroes selected, 1 of each priority. I get the one at highest priority 80% of the time, the one at middle priority 20% of the time.. never ever gotten the low priority one.
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>>559663413
i'm in your walls
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>>559663001
I hope the Silver writefag's new fic brings up how often she gets her ass kicked in the Rituals
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Did bebop get any better or worse with the item changes?
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I wonder how little spirit items you can get away with building playing Wraith now, mercurial magnum, surge of power and spiritual overflow are still perfect for her of course but it looks like they want her gun to be more than a stack machine for her cards
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>>559662384
Calm down Mina!
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>climb with two heroes
>game tells me it's time to use the 3rd pick I only have two games on
>get completely destroyed
shouldn't the matchmaking account for these scenarios?
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>Grab Mystic Shot and Silence Wave
>Add two extra 1.0 scaling nukes to my combo
Don't think this was necessary but I'll take it
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>finally dropping 3 tiers a match after hard throwing every game
thank fuck. I have no idea why these stupid fuck devs moved me from seeker to emissary IV
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>>559663815
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>>559663634
As a matter of fact I was going to have her show up bruised and beaten, and acting a bit subdued. Also she'll grumble how she got the shit kicked out of her by "that fucking mole" and she still feels like she has sand in her eyes
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>>559663950
sure didn't feel like it
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>>559663037
graves...
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Maurice is a distinguished gentleman
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when are they removing rem from the game
degenerate nigger hero
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>die 15 times
>win
I love apollo so much vros
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>>559664120
fuck rem
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>>559663634
I hope she gets the good ending, as a way to feel better about her nerfs
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TIME TO PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS
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>>559663413
>now give back the damage on the wall for the swap combo
Bro her ult does all the damage now.
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>>559664115
he's a distinguished BITCH
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This patch is horrible. Doorman didn't need to be made overpowered, he just needed some buffs.
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>>559664184
kek thats awesome
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Uh oh
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>>559664273
Well too bad, we'll be nerfing him to something worse than he's ever been before
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>>559664115
He's a professional motherfucker
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>>559663815
You dumb fucking moron, the devs are even more retarded and using ai for their mm. they clearly dont give a fuck.
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>>559664273
I just go take a piss now if a doorman ults me because I know I'm dead unless my name is Viscous.
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>>559664396
no they actually have indians search through every steam profile and pick random players to put into your game
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>>559664430
Have you tried buying counterspell and popping it when you come out of the hotel
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>>559664430
Yeah they really didn't need to make the ult impossible to escape from unless you have full stamina. Removing stamina on use, doing insane damage whether or not you successfully leave, refreshing itself if you don't leave, and even if you do leave, he just carts you into a wall instantly, it's really not fun to deal with at all when combined with the bells being impossible to miss.
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>>559664273
>>559664430
Stamina Mastery goes on every hero
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>>559664023
You should make an off-hand mention of her barely escaping the Baroness at some point too.
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>>559664576
Needing to get stamina mastery every game is really not fun. Just give everyone 5 stamina instead at this point if we're just going to make the game into rocket tag where both teams fly across the map and spam all their abilities to see who dies faster.
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>>559664480
Yeah let me just use my counterspe- oh wait, I already popped it to survive another retarded ultimate.
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>>559664361
I hope he gets nerfed into being useless again. I never liked him before, making him flat out braindead overpowered isn't good either. Being unstoppable 24/7 and constantly having someone in time out in the Baroness and then dead is just awful to play against.
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>>559664273
All they had to do was just make his doors go a little farther and make it so he could do urn runs again.
That's all they had to do.
Now they're going to overcorrect and nerf him beyond the state he was in the prior patch.
It's all fucked.
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>>559664576
UGH YOU WANT TO PULL 3200 SOULS OUT OF MY ASS LANING AGAINST DOORMAN?!!
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>>559664659
>Needing to get stamina mastery every game is really not fun.
Mentally, it feels unfun thinking about doing it. However if you actually try doing it you will realize it is in fact very fun. Moving fast and dynamically is inherently fun, and you will generally find yourself surviving far more (and confirming more kills) than other items of a similar price would afford you. I highly recommend committing to buying it every game for a while, you will probably wind up enjoying yourself.
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>>559664737
Good, fuck Doorman. So many characters in Deadlock have the problem of 'fun to play, not fun to play against', and it is going to kill the game.
>>559664791
I already buy it almost every game at some point. It isn't fun because it's a 3200 soul tax just like Counterspell is to just be able to play the game with how bad the balance is getting.
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>enduring sneed
>reactive barrier
>stamina mastery
>counterspell
>spirit resilience
>divine barrier
alright I can play for real now
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>>559664832
>not fun to play against

what does this even mean, what is your definition of a character that is fun to play against?
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>>559664615
I should be able to work that in easily enough for sure
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>>559663815
for whatever reason when you are about to rank up/rank down the game starts giving you the other heroes on your roster
i'm a one trick and ranking up to oracle took me a couple of tries until i got lucky and won 2 matches on a hero i have 20 games on (my main is 600)
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>mina on team
>silver on team
>doorman on team
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>>559662236
Uninstalled until the next major patch if it's even any good
this one is such fucking absolute dogshit
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So Wraith now does with her ult what Paradox does, but better? While also being better at literally everything else
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>>559664917
Seven
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>about to yoink pedophile bebop into fountain and rape him
>bounce pad jump interrupted by literally nothing
>don't get him into the fountain
>lose
AAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>559665226
>point and click knockdown

yea no
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What the FUCK did she mean by this???
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>>559665261
outing himself as a retarded ape
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>>559665152
Yeah this patch has definitely made me less interested in playing the game. They nerfed my favorite hero, Dynamo, and made a bunch of obnoxious heroes absolutely retard-proof more than they already are.
>>559665253
That's the least fun part of his kit, and it's easily his worst ability anyway.
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>>559664898
your unstoppable? your slowing hex?
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>>559665217
No because Paradox can now do it with the whole team.
>Whe also being better at literally everything else
Well, yes.
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>>559665261
smartest shiv player can't read
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I for one am glad they removed dynamos stomp
No I never played him, supports are for pussies
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>>559665309
point and click knockdown isn't fun to play against

orb pokes going through cover isn't fun

rape you in the ass gun steroid isn't fun
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Why did they make vortex web hero targetable?
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Need to revert the state of the game to where you could have only played honest heroes, like Abrams, Infernus, Seven
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>>559665309
4/5 of the new heros are all for casuals and women. this game is headed in a bad direction because valve wants those goybucks
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>>559665423
I'd correct you but seven is so honest that it spills over and makes this correct even though abrams and infernus are extremely dishonest
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>stamina items removed from the game
>stamina now scales with boons so that you have equivalent of extra stamina at 5 boons and 2 stamina at 15 boons
>extra air-jump/dash at 20 boons
this is the only way I see them removing stamina mastery and it still feels bad
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I for one love niggerwraith being OP
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>get interrupted by talon ult
>get combo'd by mo
>get full combo'd by calico
>then get shot by vindicta
>and drifter is in the area somewhere
mfw just gave them 3 sinners worth of buffs
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>>559665520
ur counter items?
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>>559665481
Good point though most normies will probably remain forever shitlow
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>>559665397
Because it was not strictly better than slowing hex against broken bullshit heroes like Mina and Celeste, you couldn't vortex web them easily in the air.
>>559665393
Seven is the most honest carry in the entire game and he thankfully will stay that way for a long time.
>>559665481
Yeah pretty much. Silver, Rem, Graves, and Apollo are all made for tards to perform well as.
>>559665505
Yeah well the game is trying to do too many things at once, on top of having utterly atrocious balance every single patch.
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yoshi where's the surrender button
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just raped a twitch apollo with slowing hex and knockdown, are we done crying about him now or
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>>559665556
Lemme get metal skin, spirit res, spell breaker and counterspell rq. Also micro manage my team so a walker is never alone long enough for her to breathe on it
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>>559665612
This is still winnable
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>>559664023
>>559664615
>>559664962
>"Well, the baroness has a mean dinner if you-"
>"Don't ever bring up that stupid ass hotel ever again... maybe later."
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why is there no t4 item collosal mag builds into
feels so shit to play lategame without it but sometimes i have money for a "better" item
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>>559665612
>losing with [non-descript being]
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>>559665261
But that's a correct statement?
2 knives right now are literally doing like 1.4k damage with almost no investment

...which only happened because they reworked him because he's been perma busted
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>started playing Feb 16th
>Got initiated 3 as my initial placement
>Already Ritualist 2 with 70% win rate
It's been fun ruining people's games but what the fuck is this matchmaking
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>>559665685
>*purchases dispel magic*
>*gets rid of your decay as well when i press it just as a bonus*
Nothin personnel, monke
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>>559665520
as bad as this its not as bad as when syphon didnt have a cd as was a gun item. It was absurd how strong ivy and wraith were, you also had some item that increased clip size on kills and so you basically became the admin and would just insta end game. Only thing worse was hero labs vyper with 2000 dps (not an exaggeration)
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>>559665612
How is Abrams only at 23k with 14 kills?
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>>559665730
>dashes thru you
>does no damage
>tries to get away with 2 stam
heh.... uh oh
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>>559665730
yea well I TRIED TO BE NI-ACK
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>>559665612
I swear the more niggas on mic in pre-eternus the more of a stomp.
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did a seven just try to gaslight me into thinking he's fun to play against

HELL NAW
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at least it ended fast

>>559665791
he got most of those during the first 5 minutes
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>>559665856
I don't even know how you manage to feed this hard this fast.
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>>559665791
as an abrams player who used to be in wood tier that was every game for me, you roll everyone but get no extra souls and then lose because abrams requires people to ignore you and that's why hes best as support in high elo (or was)
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>>559665505
unironically remove wall jump and bring back the days of movement tech only being dash jumping at most
movement tranny garbage actually killed the game. You have to balance everything around it now which is an impossible nightmare outside of pure movement shooters not a moba
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the apes on my team truly believe they aren't wastes of oxygen
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yesterday doorman buffs didn't matter because everyone escapes the baroness 100% of the time according to the thread

now he's an unstoppable god and no one ever escapes the baroness according to the thread

which is it dlgcucks
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>win 8 games
>rank up three pips
>lose 2 games
>derank two pips
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>>559666091
lovely matchmaking yoshi everything is going according to plan
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>>559666038
naw
wall jumps are fun and extremely predictable if you can actually aim. The issue is stamina economy is all over the place. I saw that supposedly they going to add stamina info to the new health bars which would probably help bridge that gap alot because you wouldn't blow your entire load on someone with 8 stamina not expecting them to walljump away.
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Which support heroes are the most fun if I want to actually have the ability to alter a game to become winnable? Dynamo obviously because blackhole is an obscenely good skill, but who else?
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>>559666114
>>559666114
both
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>>559664184
FUCK YOU MIRAGE
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>>559666114
No doorman gave a fuck about escapes until now, so now all of them buy slowing hex.
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>>559666172
God I wish I could hear her saying that to me
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desu wall jumps should be 1 stam since they give dash-like momentum
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>>559666246
support drifter and support abrams at their respective heights were extremely fun
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>>559666246
paige is #1
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>>559666321
well i mean current patch
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>>559666286
>bald pits
>non-canon fur color
worthless tourist artist trying to bandwagon
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>play against paige and infernus
>floor is lava in every team fight
not very fun
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Calico nerfs when? Why do they keep buffing this nigger into an unfun to play against hero.
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>>559666114
/dlg/ is extremely bad at the game, please understand. Our yiffiest posters were utterly convinced (or at least professed to be) that launch day Silver was underpowered and needed buffs.
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>>559666364
Look I'm sorry okay
Is this better
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>Shiv: Stamina reduced from 2 to 1
>Shiv: Ultimate now needs to be bounced off a wall in an oblique angle
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>>559666362
its going to take at least a month of clan_iraqing for us to know that. Deadlock is a dota like meta takes months to sort out
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>>559666091
what character were you playing to do that much damage.
I'm gonna guess Spirit McGinnis, or Victor.
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>>559666268
>Whatchu say?
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>>559666487
>>Shiv: Ultimate now needs to be bounced off a wall in an oblique angle
And he has to be airborne
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>>559666469
Calico is the only 100% unfun to play against hero in the entire cast. Runs up to you as a cat and bursts you down 100-0 in like 3 seconds with literally no counterplay.
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>>559666616
GOD
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>>559666616
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>>559666616
This BITCH got CRABS!
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>>559666114
People were bitching about the damage being taken away from bell hitbox and cart stun saying that bell explosion didn't justify it and doorman is an ult bot now.
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>>559666647
Thankfully no one plays this ugly nigger because she's an ugly nigger.
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>>559666616
>Bitch thinks she's so tough until I pull out the leash and say "Bad girl."
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>>559666647
>cat runs up and bursts you down in 3 seconds with no counterplay
>reddit: >:(
>dog runs up and bursts your entire team down in 3 seconds with no counterplay and proceeds to take a tower
>reddit: this is fine actually a little underpowered could use some buffs :)
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Wait a minute
Doorman's gun pierces, and his t5 bell makes bells last for like 30 seconds
So can you just slap 3 bells around where the guy will come back out of the baroness and blast him to kingdom come with them all at once?
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>>559666647
You're forgetting about how fucking cancerous new wraith is
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>>559666739
I've seen her in every other game if not ever game now.
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>>559666784
you can and that happened to me
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>>559666783
i believe this happened, and i also believe people said this
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>>559666784
yurp
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I'm a Holliday player and I'm not playing this fucking retarded game anymore until she gets buffed or changed in literally any way. You have to work literally 5x as hard as any other hero for half the fucking results. Why have one hero where absolutely everything you do has to be perfectly executed while the rest of the fucking cast has giant AOEs, enormous grab ranges, auto targeting faggotry?
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New Wraith is the most annoying character I've ever dealt with in this game
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>>559666864
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>>559666914
heh... but the new patch today....
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>>559666914
It's funny if you compare her to the mongoloid retard ape Wraiths walking around with M1 held down, just deleting everything in their path
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>>559664184
>>559666268
>>559664120
Total Remigger death.
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>>559666914
>I'm a Holliday player
Stopped reading there
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>wake up
>paradox is back
cool but what the fuck was the point of killing her to begin with
did it never occur to yoshi that wall was doing literally nothing
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My interest in this game is quickly evaporating with this new patch
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im queuing for nothing but ivy tonight! :3
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>>559666914
>faggotry
stopped reading there
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>>559667206
but bullet velocity.....
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Why does this dumbass general have a performative "watching streamers is for fags I'm totally too cool for that" stance when Deadlock is a moba and copying shit from pro moba players is how literally everyone improves, including other pros. I'd never have hit Immortal in Dota if I just lived in my own little retard world and never watched rtz once in a while
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>>559667348
deadlock is not meant for u unc
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>>559667348
but this general of retards fellates the nightshift "pros"
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Who the fuck's just sitting here eating a whole box of apples one after another
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>>559667469
only the silvertrannies because it gives their retarded arguments weight
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>>559667348
Watching streamers recreationally IS for fags. Watching streamers to learn shit SPARINGLY is okay
Downloading your opinions from what streamers (what reddirtors and a lot of faggots here do) is also for fags
This is a universal rule that applies to every game and every general
>sharteezy
Stop watching streamers retard
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>>559667516
Mo
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>>559667348
everyone watches nightshift?
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New Wraith is worse than Apollo ever was
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>>559667568
That's literally the opposite of reality however
You fags keep going on about how the streamers kept picking her and the pros all say she's OP, so that must mean she's so so good
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>>559663001
Wait that’s what I’ve been hearing ingame?? You can hear that shit across the map
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>>559667516
>a box of apples
>not eating the core
it was drifter, and he did it specifically to say he raped a bunch of fruits that day
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>>559667516
It's a hint for the next hero release.
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>>559667732
>umm no disregard the winrate stats she actually loses every match in night shift so she needs buffs
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>get hit by 350 damage doorman bell and lose half my hp
>look at the top of the screen
>its 7 minutes into the round
>doorman isn't even fed or anything
what the fuck are they doing
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>>559667731
Really funny how she can just ult you and dump all cards to instantly kill you 5 minutes into the game
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>>559667854
Enjoy your stay!
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>>559667836
See, there you go again
It's all about the night shift fags to you
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If you are not buying Counter Spell first item u are trolling my lane
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>>559667516
Johnny Appleseed soon
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>McGinnis places the worst fucking walls of all time all game
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>>559667854
I thought that bell got nerfed wtf
All these characters are so unfun to play against
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>>559667983
can allies destroy them now at least?
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>>559667854
Year of The Doorman.
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This patch made the game even more snowbally
The comeback is literally impossible now, especially against certain comps
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>>559666914
Hollllly shit,
I spam Holliday and she isnt that hard to play
>barrels
melee them in the air or toss them on the group and have them hit creep waves that someone is camping
>bounce pads
put them in places that the enemy cant immediately use them, save one for your ult, always get stamina mastery and learn to wall jump
>crackshot
only hard skill, learn to land crackshots on people that are being bounced by your barrels, buy bullet velocity if this is hard for you
>lasso
throwing it form too far for clutch shots is gping to miss a lot, use your barrels so you can land it easily. Most of advice is that you actually use your barrels to land your shots, its why Holliday has harder skill shots than paradox because ypu can execute them like 100% of the time by abusing your very easy to direct barrels
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>>559668092
but that's 5 actives, anon
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>>559667731
i made a wraith bandwagoner crash out today with turret mcginnis
i love being a war criminal
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>do nothing to address Apollo being the best laner in the game
>do nothing to address the fact he falls off a cliff late (other than attempting to turn him into an ultbot)
>nerf Yamato's laning even more
>buff Yamato's lategame by a fuckton
so like, are they just Ying and Yang? One's weak early but strong late and the other's the opposite?
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seriously why are people allergic to buying CC against silver
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>>559668096
This, even winning doesn't feel good now, you just roflstomp them and they can't do anything
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>>559667854
Wraith is still worse. Doorman players at least use their brains even if the character is OP. Calico too. Wraiths are knuckledragging fucking chimps.
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>>559668180
yes,
this is dota 3, timings are a thing.
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>>559668202
not worth the 1600 it costs me anymore LOL
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>Dashjump into people's faces and 4 them as Mo.
>Dashjump into people's faces and 1/4 them as Dynamo
>Dashjump into people as Viktor while 3'd.
And every time all they do is spam sprint and get fucked between short cooldowns.
I'm having FUN.
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The best ship just dropped
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>>559668286
Wildly out of character but still more amusing than all of the forced yuri
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>>559668286
>go out, drifter, and kill to the extreme!
>i will! thank you, paige!
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Why doesnt anyone go focus lens apollo. It good, no???????
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>>559668136
Think of it more as an all you can buy de-buffet.
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>>559668387
Too expensive for way too little gains and antisynergy with the ult.
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>>559668096
I had Abrams, Wraith and Doorman on my team and they were 3v6the entire team of them
>Abrams constantly stuns them
>Doorman Co stntly hotels 2 out of 6
>Wraith just throws their support into the frontline and they die in a sec
Meanwhile I solo midboss on Haze, making them unkillable
Rewatching the replay, they tried to coordinate, they tried to counterbuy, but they couldn't do anything.
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>>559668387
By the time you buy focus lens, Apollo typically isn't a problem anymore
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>>559668180
apollo does a lot late game what are you smoking

you go greens and torment pulse and hop around farming damage on everyone and stunning people with riposte

his ult fucking sucks late game due to spirit resilience and so many stuns in fights but whatever
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>>559668202
How would that even help? Knockdown isn't really gonna stop her. Shex is OK, at best it gives you time to round a corner and escape LoS. Also she has Unstoppable as a core item in every build.
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>>559668286
>Out of character for both
>drawn by a disgusting obese "woman" slav
Figures
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>>559668478
>torment pulse bot late game
that's not a lot
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>>559667983
It is 2024, and McGinnis is ruining teamfights with her wall.
It is 2026, and McGinnis is ruining teamfights with her wall.
The game is publicly released and McGinnis is still ruining teamfights with her wall.
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>>559667749
>You can hear that shit across the map
Of course you can, you're meant to. It's a haunting wolf's call, echoing through the evening air and striking fear into the hearts of all who hear the apex predator on the hunt
Until it's undercut 2 seconds later by her death yell lmao
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What is it with zoomers and never being able to accept responsibility for mistakes?
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Valve should add an actual vampire to deadlock. One that isn't a gook whore.
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>>559668096
Yeah, I used to be against the surrender voting system. But now you're just wasting time because the first 7 minutes decide the outcome of the match. You can't even deliver the comeback urn when they're ahead
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>>559668478
>his ult fucking sucks late game due to spirit resilience
You just made me realize how cucked these "bonus damage on low health" abilities are by spirit resilience.
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>>559668639
Bro, your Drifter?
>>559668697
>You can't even deliver the comeback urn when they're ahead
That doesn't mean we should have a fucking s*rrender vote, that means the comeback urn dropoff points should be swapped with their neighbouring hard camp
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>>559668478
Lategame, people build spirit armors and Apollo is one of the worst heroes at shredding it. Maybe something's different with the new update but I haven't seen him do much.
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>>559668639
How many times do I have to tell you not to post touhou you touhou tranny
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>>559668449
Watching a replay of a wraith player was just fucking pathetic. They were literally just wandering around holding down M1 like a fucking moron and it still destroyed everyone.
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>>559668639
Drifter Scarlet is right there though.
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>>559668096
>>559668237
It's miserable. I don't think I want to play much longer after this patch. Pre-patch I at least enjoyed the wins and understood that if I lost I could improve and do better next time, but now it's apparent what a fucking waste of time it all is. Might as well be a coinflip. I can play my ass off and perform well, and know that it didn't actually have any meaning when it comes to the win or the loss even with MVP or Key player or any of that fake bullshit.
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Why are my queues filled with lobotomy patients DLG?
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>>559668759
How would that help? You picking the urn as a losing team always provokes a fight no matter what. If they're ahead they have better items and therefore winning the fight. Meaning they will also steal your urn.
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when are they adding him
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>>559668096
>>559669041
What about the patch caused that?
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>>559669046
Is this forced 50 for winning too much or what I hate losing in these types of games just because my teammates are mouth drooling retards.
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>>559668639
I agree
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>>559669041
You just need to upgrade to a better hero or suffer. There is no other option now. But even then if they have more buffed heroes, you lose
>>559669156
Read the change log? Literally almost every ult got buffed, many abilities got buffed, some to ridiculous extends
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>>559669046
>>559669206
I can't even see what heroes were in the game, I don't fucking care bro
>>559669101
It would make dunks easier at least
You don't go to the nuclear option just because there's some retardation in the patch, you tweak it a bit until it's better
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why dont people buy blademail + metal skin against m1ggers
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>>559669046
I wonder what fucking character that is with the 21 kills and 88k damage and lucky shot and mercurial magnum and crippling headshot
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everyone says drifter is a rapist but it's more likely to be mirage, he can suspend you in place, rape you then teleport away and he's in a high enough position of power where no one would believe you if you told.
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>>559669156
Minions scale up harder and faster
Walkers lost some of their early protection
General power shifts for most characters
Other little things I can't think of off the top of my head
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>>559669270
>Read the change log? Literally almost every ult got buffed, many abilities got buffed, some to ridiculous extends
This applies to both the winning and the losing team.
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>>559668639
realizing i havent seen a single mina since the patch dropped, did they kill her that badly?
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>>559669314
Eats two precious active slots and doesn't return enough damage
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>>559668286
I know it smells crazy in there
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>>559669336
Vindicta
>>559669313
inters were seven and warden I was Haze my other two players were dynamo and doorman enemy team had vindicta holliday abrams wraith
>>559668774
fuck that I want a crazy Malkavian baddie like pic rel
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Which heroes give the best hugs?
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It feels like it's more worth to just poke people with Vindicta's ult then gun her down than actually trying to execute people with it
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>>559668286
Cute and canon.
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>>559669041
I noticed this too. It's not uncommon now for the losing team to have 4-5 players with zero kills at 20 minutes. This was never the case, at least in my rank (Archon). Like yeah maybe one teammate maybe two. But four?
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>>559669383
I still see her every game in shitlo
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>>559669734
Viscous
Paige
Dynamo
Mo
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Ive had my fun with my Hotelman Doorman build but am tired of how unreliable it is even if you dedicate half your build to keeping them in the hotel.
Now its time for doormaxxing kidnapper Doorman. Can anyone convince me that wasting 3200 souls on Ballistic Enchantment for 25% door range is a bad idea
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>>559669313
I mean the ability icons are right there
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>>559669734
I imagine paradox would give a good hug to distract you from her hands digging into your pockets
Drifter too, but it gets tighter and tighter until you die
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New Calico is actually unkillable. This is literal aids. I would rather play against release Apollo than this shit.
>inb4 buy slow hex xD
It doesn't matter when she has 5k hp the 3 seconds doesn't do shit long enough to handicap her.
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The losing team buys counters. The winning team doesn't have to give a single fuck. That's the truth.
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>>559669978
>Drifter too, but it gets tighter and tighter until you die
I will die happy if it's in his arms.
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>play doorman
>decide to say fuck kidnapping, i max bell and only use door for making active plays into the enemy jungle rather than being reactive
>do way better, get mvp
so is kidnapping just a meme that everyone is caught up in? spamming bells that do half of a team's HP over and over seems way better than trying to do the vortex-cart combo and failing because vortex doesn't pull the full length half the time
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>>559670020
>not countering pre-emptively
how's ritualist
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>>559670020
>take the 10% damage penalty and buy curse
>curse the enemy carry and tell team I used curse on them
>team doesn't even throw a single glance my way
>curse wears off and we get wiped
Amazing
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Guys...the lash buffs feel a little insane.
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>>559670020
I buy slowing hex when I'm ahead and ganking to stop them from making a comeback doe
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>>559662236
I hate this game. Every single game i do well in my lane, but there is one 0-8 faggot in other lane.
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Why am I the lane janny every game
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>>559670114
It's more for having fun and making people angry.
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>>559670338
He didn't get buffed if anything he got a slight nerf. But is still really strong.
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>>559668628
that also describes millenials and xoomers and boomers thoughbeit
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>>559664735
>Being unstoppable 24/7
this relies on the enemy team being unable to traverse a small jump
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I fucking hate how the guardian sometimes decides not to swing at all fucking up the tower dive altogether.
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>>559669107
why bother when he would be 1st pick and ban in nightshift and unplayable in pubs
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Calling Silver a good girl
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Calling Silver a useless bum
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>>559669813
Door range scales off spirit and with just spirit investment you can have your T3 door in 2 hidden places close to lanes and split push better than literally anyone. Alternatively you can place a door in a safe far away location, and place your escape door as soon as they show up. If you're at the T3 towers and only one person comes to stop you, you can fuck them around between hotel and cart for so long that you can probably get 25% of the towers with each engagement and get away Scott free
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>wraith is supposedly giga OP
>haven't run into a single one in brool
what gives?
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not gonna buy the egg
I'm just not gonna do it is all
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>>559670869
>brawl
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I haven't had a single fun game since the patch dropped.
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The only tier list that matters.
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>>559670954
yes, that's what I said
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>>559670967
Me too
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I haven't had a single unfun game since the patch dropped
t. doorman/viscous main
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>>559671003
Holliday would 100% be on R9k complaining about her husabands also how is Seven on Facebook? he seems like a /pol/tard
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>>559671071
Holliday and Graves on crystal cafe
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>>559671050
Doorman and Viscous don't piss me off half as much as Wraith does even with Doorman's ridiculous bell damage in lane
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>want to play doorman
>everyone else is picking him
life is pain
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>>559671130
>shoots you for 1 second
>your entire health bar is gone with resilience items
like if they make someone op nonsense why not make them at least skillfull to play? Wraith players are fucking lobotomites
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>>559670140
The sparkles really boosted my gameplay.
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>>559670801
My favorite meme is how you literally cannot do anything to prevent a doorman from just entering pre placed doors.
You have to get to him and get through all his bullshit and then pray he's too retarded to open the second door before you get to him, and you also need a silence, and you also need another person (that doesn't get carted) because he wins any 1v1 and turns any 2v1 into a 1v1
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>nerf every source of spirit resistance in a spirit meta
>buff every spirit scaling too
What did Abdul Ismail, chief of Israel mean by this?
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>>559671186
Doorman and Viscous I can tolerate being OP. There's at least something fucking going on there. With Wraith I can clearly see how little fucking effort they're putting in. They don't even have to aim well at all. They are literally just holding down W and M1.
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>play like shit on rem
>build whatever items I want with the trillion souls I stole from both teams
>get carried
okay
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>>559671309
it has been a gun meta for a while, lad
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shitter here, can someone explain why monster rounds is good early
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>>559671003
I introduced viscous to short form videos and it fucking killed him and the adversary took over the ocean
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>>559671374
It really hasn't, it just feels that way because gun is stronger late game
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>>559671456
kill creep fast -> go rotate or do box runs fast -> kill camps faster -> get more money fasterer

also 1 regen helps a lot and you take less damage from creeps which adds up if youre a short range hero.
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Some lane ballooned the fuck out of the Calico where she was 12/0 within 8 minutes and then our Warden was building nothing but AP. I just abandoned to save everyone the headache. Now I'm making rice and gonna make some chicken here in a moment.
I'm a Kelvin main and his grenade now heals at base level, super nice.
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I keep ending every game with tier 1 unupgraded items they should have an auto upgrade that you can toggle or somethnig
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did you rike it?
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>>559671546
>abandoning
have fun playing with screeching russians/brazillians/whatever the equivalent is in the South African and Asian servers
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>>559671626
>did you rike it?
No, this is somehow worse than Dota 7.00.
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Am I a schizo gooner or did they give Paige jiggle physics?
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>>559671546
Calico just being on that team means you were doomed from the start
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>>559670713
>>559670787
Calling Silver a good girl in spite of the fact that she's a useless bum
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>>559668436
It does pure damage so people going spirit resilience get fuked and will die instead of living
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Why is nobody here talking about how fucking megabroken it is to spam eggs after 30 minutes instead of holding it. You can get a bunch of buffs when you're rich enough.
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>>559671756
Dishonest, you're perfect for her
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>>559670634
there's like a cooldown on the guardian doing it's melee and the troopers can proc it
kind of annoying
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>>559671626
Not really, but whatever
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Just lost a 60 minute game cause the enemy got all the CC (mo and krill, wraith) and we didnt get a single debuff that wasnt dispellable

nice game
>>559671850
you can build more than one egg?
>>559671626
besides wraith victor and calico the patch is really good but I am so tired of those piece of shits ruining everyhn
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>lasso someone under my walker
>it does literally no damage to them the entire duration
>doorman carts me into his walker
>it is winding up its stomp before im even through the fucking door
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>>559671626
The game is in its most insufferable state in a long time. Instead if fixing the new characters he made a bunch of the old ones just as busted and annoying.
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>>559671857
It's called encouragement, anon
Look it up sometime
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>>559671243
>Doorman buys Cheat Death
now what
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>huge minion wave about to crash our blue walker
>see wraith right next to it hitting the t3 camp
>assume she will get it, continue being green janny
>have to watch as she stays farming and loses it, not a single enemy present
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>>559671905
>you can build more than one egg?
You can buy an egg, instantly consume it for 2 buffs, and buy another. After 30 minutes the golden statue and egg buffs are stronger. When you have completed your build you can keep farming, sell the cheapest item, spam eggs and then buy the item back.
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>>559671850
I thought the initial 400 souls on the egg don't count towards the boon count anymore?
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New Doorman is not nearly as strong as you retards seem to think he is, youre just so shit that you cant beat the worlds easiest platforming challenge.
>but hes SLOWING me WAAAAAAAH
buy dispel magic retard
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>>559672072
I thought they fixed that
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>>559672121
dispel magic doesnt give you the stamina back
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viscous 8 charged punches in a hectic team fight that you must parry all of or be forced horribly out of position and killed
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>>559672151
They fixed getting buffs by selling the egg.
Unless there was a hotfix in the last 10 hours, instantly consuming it still gives you 2 buffs.
I played a game as Yamato where I reached 5400 HP and 150 ammo, shit was utterly retarded.
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>>559672235
>he doesn't know the 0 stam method to clear the roblox obby
ngmi
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just a few more paradox brawl games, i'm sure i'll roll the god build next game
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>>559672121
Most of our slots are going to be counter items now then?
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>>559672121
I have literally NOT seen a single game where doorman didn't go like 15/1/15
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>>559672271
why would you do this to urself
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>>559671546
calico getting souls no matter if she gets the final hit or not is so shit
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>>559672286
Silencing items are a must buy now that half the cast can solo insta-cripple you.
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>>559672271
>street brawl
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>>559672428
the bomb build is real

unironically team diff in like over half of them, I'm the key player as fucking paradox. but it's brawl so whatever
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>>559672286
only if you are the team down 20k souls at 20 min
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>>559672497
yes
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>nerfed
>buffed
>nerfed
>buffed
So is she good now or what? She just got GIGA nerfed and less than a day later she gets buffed
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>>559672506
In which case you lose anyways
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>>559671071
seven is a leftypol user
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>get hit by infernus at 19 minutes in
>take literally 1000 damage
One word; epic.
This is epic.
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They should just swap Wraith's 3 with her ult
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>>559672616
Just buy 1 more counter item bro trust me please just one more and this patch is fun actually
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Is Torment Pulse shit now?
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>>559672235
restorative locket gives up to 3 stamina now or whatever :)
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If my lane partner is retarded I run it down the rest of the game. The lobby is my hostage. If we manage to win I type "gg ez"
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>>559672616
If it's a single bodyshot you only take 76 damage. To take 1000 damage you'd need to be hit 12 times.
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Why would I not buy Egg first item every single game? Especially now that its 90 souls per minute, seems like a complete no brainer to me. -10% damage is fucking nothing early on and wont slow down your farming at all on most heroes.
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>>559672875
ask me how i know you're either russian or eastern European
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>>559672260
I tried it in sandbox and it did nothing
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>>559672875
hit me up with a demo ID playa
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>>559672879
Infernus fires 12 bullets in a blink of an eye, what does it matter. You're acting like he's Holliday.
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>>559672970
I'm a muttmerican. The strongest race on this Earth.
>>559673013
The fucking what
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>>559672591
Yes, these buffs will push her to be first picked once again in the next Night Shift!
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I'm emissary 3 and just played an emissary 5 match on my low priority hero with less than 10 games played
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>>559673001
Doesn't work in sandbox. Try it in a bot match.
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at what rank do teams begin to generally understand macro and we stop letting minions take walkers for free?
t. ritualist 2
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>that one anon complaining that they buffed the old heroes to be more like the new heroes so the disparity in power is less obvious
>seethes uncontrollably and posts 10x a thread
What did he mean by this?
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>>559673317
never
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>>559671626
No. Somehow you took a 48% winrate character and dropped their winrate to 40% because you would rather do that than fix a camera bug. In addition to that, you nerfed a character where the counterplay is literally just walking away from them. I can not conceive of a universe you thought Silver needed a nerf or Fire Scarabs needed its cooldown more than quadupled.
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>>559673415
get raped KEKW
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>1/2 of the characters having an I Win button is good and fun actually
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when is restorative locket a good purchase?
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>>559673335
that this new patch is not fun basically
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The bubble is popping.
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All they had to do was kill celeste...
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>>559673663
Slowing hex literally does
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>>559662236
Hello /dlg/, it's time for Random Bullshit Balance Talk again. Today's subject: Greater Expansion.
>Do you think it's balanced right now? Should its numbers be tweaked?
>Do you think the concept of an item that affects ability ranges is fundamentally good?
>How would you feel if there was a further upgrade at the 6400 soul price tier?
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didn't Yoshi say they were working on a build system revamp?
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>>559673695
slow hex raped apollo but only brought celeste down from godhood to demigodhood
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The game is at a state where counter items are the default buys and "your build" is a luxury choice that you get when you're 20k souls ahead.
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>>559673725
fun item that feels good to build but i think a 6400 tier version would be disgusting
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>>559673725
It's completely fine, actually.
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I think Kelvin is sleeper OP this patch, I've played 6 games with him so far and won 6 (carried 4, slept through 2)
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>equip spirit resilience
>equip stamina mastery
>equip dispel magic
>equip chastity cage
Okay, I think I'm ready to play the new patch like a good boy
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>>559673523
>thing different, no fun!
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>>559673792
>buy green 1st item because every ability chunks half ur hp
>buy another green item
>buy counters from then on out
>hope the feeder that breaks the stalemate is not on ur team
>follow build L->R
>win
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>>559672616
>>559672709
>>559673087
>leagueshitters when they have to actually read tooltips and learn to use items
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>>559673725
I kind of dont the idea of mandatory buys but i cant imagine how valve could design heroes/items while trying to avoid them
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>>559673725
>Greaterer Expansion
would be funny
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>>559673725
the T4 is Divine Barrier.
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>>559673856
>slept through 2
I hate those games. I just straight up stop trying and just let the two niggers that got a steamroll to do their thing as I just get souls in our jungle and push lanes.
Woohoo you go get your 13th kill against the paige that's crying in all chat and will rage quit once we start pushing base I'll just kinda sleep walk from walker to walker.
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The Paradox redesign makes no fucking sense.

>Old
3
aim in air for time slow
Shoot
Hit? Then wall + Swap. Bomb afterwards.

>New
3
aim in air for time slow
But now you need to wall before shooting for a fraction of the damage the wall used to do.
But using the wall before shooting makes your aim-time slow awkward and unintuitive.

Just awful. She had a cool combo style assassin to her before but now she's just retarded.
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>>559673335
its the one trick leaguetrannies that are used to riotslop balancing getting filtered
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>>559673875
Yes.
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>>559673990
stop trying to play her like she has the old skills then?
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>>559673990
>But now you need to wall before shooting for a fraction of the damage the wall used to do.
no you don't. the damage buff is just for those 1-on-1 close quarters fights where you dance around the wall
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So is Lucky Shot actually any good? When you take luck out of the equation it seems like it's just 30 ammo and +25% weapon damage, which isn't terrible, but seems pretty mundane for a T4
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>>559674046
But I did. I even explained how I did and why it ruins her entire character? Did you read? Oh you're a dumb ESL. Okay you don't read.
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>>559674046
you are so right sister let me play the meme bomba build that doesnt come online (LOL) until vortex web
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>>559674091
The crit is multiplicative with your other damage mods. That makes it much better than even Glass Cannon because *1.25 very quickly becomes bigger than +0.8.
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>>559674091
winmore item for gun carries.
Makes Wraith and Drifter absolutely fucking shit out damage late game.
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>>559674151
Oh shit for real? I thought it was additive
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>>559674105
idk bro you said you're trying to play her the exact same except you want to wall before shooting your carbine, and this is somehow filtering you.
>>559674116
shut up tranny.
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>>559674091
It's a "your match ended up a shitshow and went to 50 minutes so everyone has a billion souls to spend" item. Very low prio, like >>559674151 said it's a multiplier for existing damage. Unless you're retard fed you will be too busy buying core items and counter items to ever build Lucky Shot in 99% of your games.
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>>559674198
Being multiplicative is unironically the only reason anyone buys it.
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>>559674091
Saw a silver proc lucky shot thrice through slamfire and do about 3.5k damage against a paige with full barriers and full health and instantly fragged her.
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Should I be lane jannying for the entire game or joining my death balling team blue off respawn?
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>>559674031
go back to league and equip flash on every skillshot hero! KEK
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>>559674237
that's all it was pre-patch for me too. a 70k souls item. there's so many other things I'd rather buy before it.
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>1st game after le patch
kek this is disgusting
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My Haze lane partner went 0/5 in lane against a fucking Mina and Abrams. Then she disappeared into our jungle and farmed for 20 minutes then came out and got a 6x kill with one ult
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Im actually getting tired of this new hero nonsense just compare Holliday to someone like apollo
>oh you have to jump melee your barrel and hit the arc perfectly woah look at all this stuff you hve to do for like 150+ something damage
>erm im apollo i'll just press 1 and hit you for nearly 300 damage lane phase
why are the new heroes just brainless garbage?
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>>559674319
I think the only character that can get away with getting lucky shot early is Vyper since she has so much fire rate that you are constantly shitting out lucky shots.
Although I say early but I mean getting it around 35k instead of when you've filled out all your slots. Seen a lot of vypers get lucky shot pretty early.
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>>559674370
how much stronger is his health steal thing? He felt very annoying to lane against but I never laned against many before patch in my rank
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Are you ACTUALLY going to drop me off, or just, uh, run around New York!?
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>>559674273
I haven't played a game since February 10th but going by the trooper and objective changes you should probably be splitpushing all the lanes to their base while your team of retarded broolers distract them and letting the troopers do the rest of the work
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>>559674370
the nerf to his ult cd really fucked with my game flow, it really slowed the game down for me. I used to be a match rapist but now I have to rush to level my ult to be active.
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Does Venator's crossbow pierce thin walls? I shot a Kelvin that was hiding behind one of those small signs by the guardian
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>>559674464
>the nerf to his ult cd
that leviathan rape of celeste caused this I fear
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>>559674398
>went 0/5 in lane against a fucking Mina and Abrams
>"a fucking Mina and Abrams" duo lane
>Haze fucked off and farmed for 20 minutes and did what carries do, hyper scaled
uhhhh
okay
what's noteworthy about this
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THE RETARD MARIO DINOSAUR CHANGED THE GAME LENGTH TO 20 MIN STOMPS AFTER I COMPLAINED ABOUT THEM BEING 40-50 MINS KEK
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>>559674164
So what's the point of counters
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>>559674489
some fat people poke through the wall when hugging it.
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So what Shiv build should I be running now?
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>>559674370
>>559674464
I accept ult nerfs (even if they hurt) if it means I can actually do damage and proc shit like tankbusters reliably.
Getting tankbuster at 17k as mo and not having to buy QSR in lane anymore is so fucking good.
>>559674578
To counter something? I don't understand why you'd ask that I just told you what lucky shot does.
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whats the ivy skill order?
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>>559674606
>playing shiv
you like getting stomped in the balls?
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>>559674661
I was liking him before the patch and I dont want to give up on him just yet
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>>559674606
Ring of Repick
>>559674637
Max kudzu, max ult
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>>559674629
is tankbuster good?
I never bought burst or buster, but I did remove qsr and cold front from my revised build. I may bring back cold front because arctic blast is an undervalued item.
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>>559667516
The cleric
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>>559674661
NTA but yes I want Mina to stomp on my cock and balls. Step on them and squish them into the dirty ground with her bare feet... Knead and mash my cock.
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Epstein Rape Apollo
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>>559674790
that's embarrassing.
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>>559662236
can a nigga get an invite
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teehee lets keep apollo and celeste just like that teehee wouldnt that be funny
>>559674870
you said the n word we dont do that around here bwo...
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>>559674431
>how much stronger is his health steal thing?
very I guess? idk I felt invincible.. I can just press W and spam scorn and the enemy dies..
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>>559674906
>seething about negative win rate heroes
lol!
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Vindicta still feels like complete ass
What is even the point?
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Is Yamato good or what? Need a new char
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>>559674906
Neither of those heroes are good shut yo bitch ass up nigga damn
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>>559673924
The Brawl enhanced version is one of my favorite rolls for exactly this reason
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How in the fuck do people play fucking mina
i feel like love bites takes and entire mag to proc and then everyone shrugs it off even if I shred spirit res.
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>>559674906
can a motherfuckin negro spiritual Israelite PLEASE get an invite
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>>559675108
buy a bigger magazine if you can't land your shots.
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>>559667516
niggas in the 1950s loves apples
especially 1950 apples being actually good and not dogshit like pic rel flooding the apple market and being shoved infront of every kids face at school and stunting love for apples
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When's Yoshi fixing Sinclair's bolt indicator magicbros? Really ain't helping that bolts been acting weird recently, with not redirecting onto my cursor. Kinda feels like they're waiting for the new model to be done before fixing him up.
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>>559675024
What part of her kit do you think feels like ass?
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They need to add hanzo to the game
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>>559643909
>>559645008
Truth barrels being dropped
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>>559675203
FUCK those rat piece of shit things
For me it's pink ladies, I gotta say. Golden delicious are OK too but not actually as delicious as the name implies
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What the hell is Yoshi cooking by gutting Lash?
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>>559675297
>Holliday sucks and has to work 10 times as hard to achieve the impact of better heroes
>But with paragraphs
It's not a trvthnvke if you state the obvious
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>>559675297
Yeah but it's about Holliday so who cares
No need to beg for attention, it's just Holliday
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>>559675335
Imo I like him better now not being just an ult bot.
He's back to being a sticky burst spirit ganker.
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why do people say this patch isn't fun?
all these random buffs to heroes are just more of the same bullshit other heroes had
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>>559675435
Ult bot is one thing, but you don't get any positional advantage.
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so tired of no one helping me abrams and paige i get them both low what is my victor doing? browsing the shop :)
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>>559674707
>is tankbuster good?
Yes. You can proc tankbuster around 14k with items that are all decent for mo.
>healbane
You can replace healbane with something like enduring speed if you get two or three spirit buffs from sinners btw.
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>>559674489
genuinely if you hug that wall too much part of your model may clip through and you can get killed because of it
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If you hold the egg for 60 minutes it should spawn a big goose monster that pushes the lane you're in
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>>559675521
>179 damage
Hm. So what do you do if they buy an item that gives them more than 7% spirit resist
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>>559675475
Compare Wraith to Holliday
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I JUST GOT RAPED TO DEATH BY A MCGINNIS
REVERT HER TURRET CHANGES OR DELETE THIS HERO. NOW!
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>>559675108
You are shooting from too far away AND you aren't getting headshots.
Swoop in and shoot them, slap them with rake to proc love bites, then swoop out.
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>>559675475
Yeah Warden having a 16 second cooldown silence is so fun and epic.
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>>559675653
You read the item description like someone that isn't a total fucking retard.
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>>559675521
also mystic vuln was exclusively to just get some investement, any other spirit t2 will work, like CDR for more scorn spam.
Also imp spirit works as well if you want to go boundless later I guess.
>>559675653
tankbuster ignores spirit resist lil' gup. It just checks the raw number (you) deal not what the enemy actually takes.
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Mothman when???
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>>559675716
let me guess, mirage? america wins again, sand nigger
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why DOES NO ONE SHOOT THE PEOPLE I LASSO people genuinely get confused they will stare RIGHT at the person being held and go "huh thats weird how's this happening?" instead of just killing him
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>>559675785
>>559675787
I'm not gonna hear you try and tell me that description actually means the proccing hit of damage is checked ignoring spirit resistance, instead of tankbuster's damage proc ignoring spirit resistance
If true that's the most retardedly worded item ever
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>>559675838
Mothman is the most astroturfed cryptid ever. He's not that cool.
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>>559675787
ALSO tankbuster makes you heal an absolute fuckton off of scorn AND helps your farming so it's a great item, especially now that torment pulse is becoming even more and more ass.
>>559675887
Okay, dude.
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>egg buffed
>barely any balance changes
what's the endgame?
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>>559669313
>
>You don't go to the nuclear option just because there's some retardation in the patch, you tweak it a bit until it's better
They've been "tweaking" dota2 for more than years now, it never got better
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>>559666914
They're working on a Holliday rework
Source: My dreams
I just think it's likely because she got zero changes so I expect them to be working on something substantial
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>>559675871
use your mic
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so does Mina scale more like a normal carry now or is she really just fucking gutted any anyone saying otherwise is a faggot retard seething about her because of how good she was 9 months ago? Like that fucking ugly dysgenic fat faggot french canadian Deathy going "YESSS YESSS KILL MINA, KILL THIS CHARACTER YOSHI, KILL HER... OH NO YOU DIDN'T JUST OUTRIGHT SPIRITUALLY DELETE HER FROM THE GAME THAT'S TOO BAD, KILL HER MORE DON'T GIVE HER ANYTHING BACK FOR WHAT YOU TAKE" while reading straight up hard nerfs and some cope "adjustments".
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>>559675987
It's a meme item added for "variety"
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>>559675887
Weird how everyone else except you seemed to understand how it worked, tardybro.
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>>559675203
dry bitter disgusting shit...
actual, PROPER apples are delicious
if I was just some fucking bored 50s criminal wanting to aura farm in my own head ongod no cap I'd sit in a 1950s alleyway munching on apples one after the other and then leaving a mess of cores there to be mysterious
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yeah i cant make holliday work she fucking sucks
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a single doorman bell hits as hard as a blessed venator crossbow shot
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I sure do love how Wraith does 9000x damage and gets a free escape and homing missile cc these are the worst balance devs ive ever seen since BHVR
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>"They do lots of things!"
>"THEY HIT THE FUCKING TOWERS!"
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>>559667568
SilverGODS love seeing the "pros" throwpicking with Silver and then swearing up and down that she's busted because it highlights their terminal retardation and their continued underperformance justifies our correct opinion about our character
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>>559676397
>They're great at shuffleboard
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>>559676271
This is what I don't like about him, he only has one "damage" spell
>S2
Utility
>S3
It does do damage but it's not really FOR damage if that makes sense, it's a cc and combo spell
>S4
Conditional and is an ult

Guys like Doorman and Rem are a pain in the ass because when you get hit by their damage spell it makes you want to rip your hair out
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>>559676489
>"OH GOD THEY HIT THE SECOND ONE!"
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>>559676375
>these are the worst balance devs ive ever seen since...
Yeah I haven't subjected myself to an assfaggots OR a live service live balance competitive game seriously in a long ass time and I'm remembering why it's so fucking gay and lame and not worth it because of these patch notes. Entire game can complete go to shit over night and then be stuck that way for god knows how long. These fucking retarded niggers have no idea what they're doing.
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Playing Holliday this patch is a fucking nightmare, everyone got buffs except you. Like participating in the Olympics but you're a paraolympic athlete
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>>559676535
so leave, fuck off
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>>559676605
>ehhh let me throw my little barrel and shoot you for like 100 damage with my uber awesome fully upgraded spirit focused split shot
>gets fucking evaporated by a wraith holding m1 in your general direction for 2.5 pictoseconds
why do they just make some characters retarded and then some you need to do 9000 things just to be semi useful and even WHEN you do those 9000 things you do less than the 0 iq ape like what is the philosophy here?
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>>559676605
So who's the original artist anyway I want to see them draw wraith undressing holliday as she gets flustered.
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>>559675871
Try to ping your ability before going for a lasso, a heads up can do wonders to make people pay attention.
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>cat picture
Normietranny opinion: discarded
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>>559676605
didn't read, choco sexo
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>3 games where I just can't make Abrams work
I'm just going to blame my teammates



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