Wiglico edition >Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>559692236
Sex with Venator
PATCH COMPLAINER FAGS:
>>559721101as a pisslow i like the patch because no more silvers on the enemy team. the only hero i couldn't 1v1 as drifter
>>559721173Instead you have Wraiths who are way worse?
Open Beta 2026
>>559721326after finding out you can light melee these skulls and kill nearly all of them i have realized graves is just feeding me free farm in lane
>>559721173>the patchI like the patch, but I don't like the current influx of new players thanks to it, its given me severe whiplash since they are all fucking worthless and I don't know why they are even in matches with me
there was no influx of new players this patch lol
>>559721095hes such a power bottom i love it
Doorman went from being like the 5th lowest picked to the 3rd highest
>>559721705I wish people would stop picking him so I could actually play him :(
What's the doorman build everyone is complaining about? You can't escape his ult anymore?
>first time m&k>lose every single lane>spend the next 15 minutes just jumping from green to yellow back to green clearing waves>suddenly I'm not only immortal, but I can instantly kill anyone I catch with my 2 and 1, I don't even need the ult>haze and wraith hate me already, but I just buy disarming hex for the keksThat was fun, but I'm mad I can only carry with braindead heroes like this
>even the e-sports faggots in the tournament are talking about how doorman is overtuned and an absolute niggerfaggot pick now that does too much damage and disrupts the game with his mechanicslol
>>559721705he's le hard thoughif holliday got his buffs she still would be barely picked
Doorman being good is bad for the game desu
4/10 patch for how broken doornigger is. At least wraith is playable now.
>>559721921name one hero where that doesn't hold true. they all have oppressive kits when the numbers are off
>>559721893But Anon last thread says he only does 500 damage in brawl!
>cool CC ability where you can do something special to escape it >character who has it gets to unavoidably CC you again for free the moment you escapeVery fun and intelligent designThank you Valve
>>559722094>muh 1000 damage bell
>>559721705>rem D tierwhat happened
>>559721920>he's le hard thoughWhat exactly was ever even hard about Doorman except that he sucked?
>>559721893>waiting for e-sports niggers to confirm/deny your biaseszoomer and/or brown hands typed this
>>559722268They didn't do enough things :(
>>559722021>At least wraith is playable now.Isn't she like stupidly broken? Playable is an understatement.
>>559722329i dont know ask this general 5 days ago
i don't really like the new end screen cards>third most weapon kills!???nobody gives a shit bro
when's the next patchthis sucks dick
Sirs, your rent?
>>559722470they should show a stat card for amount of time you made oponents get CC'd
>>559722369...after almost a a whole year of being C or D tier. That's 100% fair.
>>559722329both the bell and the cart were skillshots, not whiffing your abilities on hotel leave and maximizing door usage also takes skill but mostly requires coordination as well
>>559722470people will just complain about anything
>run urn>get interrupted by venator >spend the rest of the game hunting him down so he doesn't get to play the gamedon't mess with my fucking urns nigger
>>559722058I said good, not broken.
>>559722525indian doorman mod bell = bowl of currycart = indian trainhotel = ganges river
Reminder that they should buff Silver and nuke israel.
>>559722268his unstoppable while ulting got removed but that's whatever outside of e-sports. it got some other feather touch nerfs. it's more of a case of heroes like doorman are busted now so why pick him
Need help regarding extra hotkey for Slide.I'm trying to put an alternative hotkey for Slide on the mouse up button. Because I want to use it for Zipline movement. Problem is when I do that, for some reason when I zipline and the scroll up, the character I'm using "fast decends". It's not like they let go of the zipline like when I press CTRL. Why?
>>559722667blast radius of the nuke?
The absolute inability of most players ITT to know basic shit is insane. Every game i get absolute fucking retards who don't know what they're doing.
why is fight night streaming an emissary game
>>559723007Phantom player, these guys don't even know moba roles most of the time. Fucking RETARDSSSSS
>>559723057theyre just watching a casual tourney called freak fest
>>559723007
>another bebop banoh brother
>>559722860Double crouch in air is a downward dash you clown
The skill rating system is retarded.So what i deserve to go down because in two lanes i get 0/5 retards who feed Calico and Victor and winning is now fucking impossible?
>>559721920>he's le hard thoughhow?the bells are easy to throw out and hit with the range and speed, carting doesn't really take 500 iq and sure doors can take some semblance of skills to play around well but you get 70% of the value out of them by just playing normally with the doors and his ult is piss easy lmao
>>559723231every game is throwable
>Supposed next big update is supposed to finally finish the cityI would assume the remaining characters finally get their remodels? I just wanna know much longer til the game finally comes out. I say late 2026 or very early 2027. Won't be surprised if we get 1 more batch of characters.
I don't give a shit about Doorman
>>559723317>just wanna know much longer til the game finally comes outwhy?its not like it won't stop getting updates
>>559723137I thought you were joking but it really is called freak fest
>>559723227Sorry I'm new I so I don't know. Damn why so mad. Thanks anyway.
>>559723317tbdesu if we do get another 6 hero update it'll come at or slightly after launch
>Ya'll niggas don't even know how good you got it. You think rivals matchmaking is shit? Go play deadlock niggaOH NONONONONONO OUR RESPONSE DEADLOCKSISSIES?????
>>559723317steam machine
I keep letting my team down...by trying to help them instead of farming my nuts off while they die...
>>559723419i have never and will likely never touch rivals
How do you lane with M&K? Hit and run tactics? I feel pretty useless until I get the ult and a couple of items
>>559723419If anything, I get better team mates in Deadlock than I do Rivals.
>>559723453I probably should try to pay better attention to where my team mates are in lane though
>losing>drag game to 40 minutes>team manages to be late game warriors>enemy team's items become a jumbling messez
>>559723419which discord do they/them say this in?
>>559723439>he thinks valve didn't scrap steam machine and steam vr and steam controller after hardware prices for all components are up 2000%lol
>>559723317Launching with less than 50 heroes??? In a 6v6 game??? Nah
>>559723453>by trying to help them instead of farminghonestly, this is a lesson I find hard to learn as wellmost of my deaths are me falling for my teammates baiting me because I don't want them to perish into the ether
Is Death Slam's throw range bugged or is this genuinely how it's supposed to behave after the nerf? I tried him in a quick Brawl and even with T3 I have absolutely no range at all on the throw. Between this and the Ground Strike nerf I don't know if Lash is even fun to play anymore.
>>559723419Neither game has worse matchmaking than Overwatch
>>559723523the disarm has a really long cooldown but I like to use that for some poke oppurtunitiesotherwise, play it very safe and use his 1 to get health and do damage if they for some reason decide to get close, which should occur since they need the ground soulsonce you get your ult you can hopefully get some good kills if your teammate isn't braindead
>>559723590because of*
>>559723647throw distance got nerfedits easier to grab people though
>Calico was already OP>they buffed her more
>>559723231>start of mid game>can only see 2 enemy players>Side lane is pushed up to our walker>”Oh yeah, it’s time to run neutral Urn!”Every time
>24 hour banhow lenientI dont even remember the last time I left a game
>>559724031
warcrimes for this feel?
>>559724094i only run urn when we just lost a teamfight
>>559724184thanks for reminding me to ban mcginnisi refuse to play against this piece of shit until they gut spirit build again
just gooned to femboys
>>559724270I don't blame you she's super overtuned right now
>>559723317Where was this said? Also regarding big updates when is it going to be expected? June?
can someone give me a retard explanation on how to shiv shotgun movementeverytime I remember to try and do it it stilts my movement and makes me look like a moron in front of everyonedid they stealth nerf it this patch or something ?
>>559724184>brawl>mcginnis>infernus>ivy>up against silver and mina who are useless in brawlwhat's your point?
>>559724697how do people as autistic as you function on a day to day basis
>>559724286you gonna share?
Mo and Krill?More like No and Skill...
>>559724810you tell me you autistic nigger
>>559724810sorry making a simple observation deflated your extra-meaningless win
>>559724810asperger actually
>>559724878google aroma pornhuband its the chinese one with the relatively big dong
>>559724609I don’t believe anything has changed with the shotgun but dash sliding has been tweeked.https://youtu.be/Uh8Py4Et9hEhttps://youtu.be/NIVW_RBcHas
reminder that this is her canon height...
>>559723317i think we'll get 2 more hero batches so the game launches with exactly 50 heroes
I played almost exclusively billy. I can't aim for shit so I guess I just like being close with em with CC.what other characters play like him? I wanna try others
>>559725431where do i find these character sheets
>>559725525idk but someone made that
>>559721920>Doorman: I use knockdown, then ult them. I get my ult back for free.>Holliday: I HAVE TO PUT DOWN A JUMP PAD GO BING BING WAHOO AND MELEE A BARREL FROM 200M UP AND HOPE I HIT MY TARGET IN WHICH CASE I MIGHT LAND A HEADSHOT OR LASSO TOO AND THEN UHHH I LAND NEXT TO THEM AND HOPE I DON'T GET FUCKING MURDERED BEFORE DOING IT ALL OVER AGAIN
I JUST FUCKING BROKE MY MOUSE BECAUSE OF A 20/0 VICTOR ON ENEMY TEAM FUCK THIS TRANNY DEADCOCK GAME
>>559723815nerfed is an understatement
Killing myself if they rework Holliday, nothing is more fun than being an annoying fly
>>559725473Abrams melee build
>>559721705>used to get Doorman almost every game>now everyone plays him because of the patchI hate meta chasing faggots so much, stay away from my boy and stick to playing ugly overbuffed sluts like Calico/Wraith.
>>559725110i don't cotton to strange chinamen with no sense of self who stand secretly by for indeterminate amounts of time
So why did the buff Mohammad & Krillenstein?
>pick doorman>never played him before>howhardcanitbe.jpg>gun is pisseasy and shits out damage>abilities are all straightforward despite everyone screaming about how complicated he is>end the game with most player damage and second most objective damageerrmmm
>>559725819theyre all rem refugees
>>559725935The secret seems to be just cheese everyone with his bell and ult, don't try to do wacky shit with the doors.
>>559725819Sorry it's just so fun to kidnap people now that door range is YUGE
>>559725525They are all on the wiki
>>559725763>all that movement tech to lightly pepper and annoy three dudes>loses 60% of her health from a half-dead bebop doing a desperation ult in 2 seconds
>>559725935same lol like 4 matches agothe door combos just aren't worth it, too much time and hasslebut his 3 literally stuns on walls just spam bells and 3s and the dmg is insanenot that hard a char
>>559726052The doors are your get out of gank free card if you set one up before pushing.
any mo and krillas?
>>559726052bells have always did a billion damage like Dynamo stomp and Pillow Fight but people just wanted to cart combo staminalets. yoshi just put more light on it.
>>559726201autistic retard
This fucking game nearly gave me a heart-attack(Exaggerated but still) by making my screen blackout mid-game and then my PC giving me OS errors trying to boot back upThis has been the first game I played that nearly bricked my PC, when I asked a friend about it he said it could be an anti-cheat issue but I'm not sure if that's the caseI have played many other games that have invasive anti cheat and never had this issue with like Battlefield 6 & Helldivers 2I don't know if it's a freak accident but I want to file a report for this but how do you even file a bug report for this?
>>559726238sup. still climbing. I love M&K, shitting down carrytrannies throats.
>>559726282this literally happened to me today, it crashed after the game ended then when i launched it i got a blue screen
>>559726201She's a disruptor/support not carry, who else could've stopped that urn and get 2 kills. The Bebop damage was retarded though
Can I not practice doorman train in lobby? Why does it teleport me out if I try to noclip into it
>>559726275nigger nobody wants a holliday on their team no matter how many MLG SKILL 360 NO SCOPE clips you post. there's a reason why none of you cunts ever post your rank or W/L ratio with her, because you're all in pisslow or smurfing and think the character is somehow good (she's shit)
>>559726282yesterday me and my friend crashed at the same time in the lobby just reading items, we were already done for the night so I didn't try to open again
I'm working my way through Arcanist rn, will I get punished during Laning if I try to parry people doing melee last hits
>>559726426I assume you mean the hotel, and you can do it in the sandbox at least.
>ritualist schizo immediately outs himselfpottery
>tfw i'm literally graves (male) irl
>>559726412she only got one kill in the clip retard, didn't do anything with the urn after the fact. the infernus died on the other side of the map to an abrams and venator
>>559726667>green hand on white girls head.png
>>559726395>>559726530It was so fucking bad that it made my PC shut off and restart, then when it tried going into Windows gave me errors about how the Operating System got corrupt with errors 0xc0000001 & 0xc0000098I had to crack out my old CD drive & copy of windows 10 to repair the corrupt filesI am baffled because like I said before I never played a game that gave me this problem before
>>559726742Lore accurate btw
>>559726282somethign similar happened to me a few weeks backmy screen just goes pitch black for a few seconds
>>559725717another for the collection.
>>559726881
>>559726529I'm the guy that posted the webm and I'm phantom 1 with 50+ WR, she was decent before the patch but I'm pretty sure she's shit now everyone got way too buffed.>>559726673Haze died from Ivy(and Dynamo right after) then I obviously got the urn
>>559726881VICTOR NOOOOO KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF HER SHE'S A CHILD!
>Guys, Holliday is a disruptor / support not a carry!Why the fuck would you play Holliday when Dynamo, Rem, Ivy, Lash, Sinclair, etc. all do her job better, more consistently, and provides more utility to her team?
>>559727083because she actually plays more like an offlaner from dota (pos3) than a support/disruptor (pos 4/5)
how hard is it to learn Shiv's m2 movement?
>>559727083Because they're all boring r*ddit chars and don't provide the same dopamine. Some people are good enough at a video game to still win with weaker chars
>>559727000Trips of Truth Don't feed the troll it's the same guy having the chimpout at the Mcginnistard.
For being a Disruptor, how good is Paradox now?
>>559727195>Holliday isn't a Redd*t character>only character in the game who says she wants to get her tubes tied
Why do you need to melee barrels anyway? Nobody has ever shot a barrel that was cast normally, why is that functionality even there? Just make the barrel throw the default.
>>559727083she fun
>>559727346isn't holliday like 40shes not having kids either way
>>559727365GET DUNK NIGGA
>>559727346>sheriff tired with her life doesn't want kidsNo way, I have never seen this trope before
which character with 10 kills 0 deaths would you rather play agaisnt>victor>calico>doorman>mcginnis
>>559727406>>559727482hello redd*t
>>559727365>Why do you need to melee barrels anyway?Because Holliday is a character for autistics who want something that's needlessly complicated
>>559727509victor
>>559727509doorman, explodes upon contact
>>559727068ACHSHUALLYhe is one too
>>559727581??
>>559727365Difficulty barrier so handless fags don't touch my wife
>>559726881i only play graves and mina anyway
>Kelvin dome a greedy Drifter who was chasing Lash with his Paige>It just barely cuts his Paige off from himhelpless librarian has to WATCH as ZESTY VAMPIRE gets his CRUST BUSTED
>>559722738how is that whatever outside of esports you stupid fuck its a free 6k for no investment
They should add disruptor from dota he has the coolest spells
>>559727509Doorman, because he's almost always exclusively targeting one guy in particular rather than the whole team. Personally, I'd put it likeDoorman > McGinnis > Calico > VictorVictor in his current state feels like the only surefire way to kill him late-game is to have Pocket ult him after he pops his ult.
>>559727365Every single noob Holliday I've seen just rolls the barrels out, most of them don't even shoot them to explode them
>>559727817yeah they'd tilt the leaguers though.
>enemy has Rem>Youre never allowed to take mid boss if he's aliveWOW I LOVE THIS BALANCED HERO HE'S SO BALANCED JUST LIKE ALL THE NEW HEROES
Warden fucking rapes now
Why is there some nigger co-casting at DeadlockNightShift?
>>559727817360 radius miku wall is not a balanced spell in concept.
>>559727979yeah I hate it
>>559727941bro your knockdown?curse?silence?any sort of cc?
>>559728009You can still shoot through it, it just stops movement
>>559728030REM FUCKING GETS UNSTOPPABLE AS PART OF HIS ULT, RETARDHE CAN JUST SLEEP YOUR ENTIRE TEAM AND STEAL MIDBOSS
>>559728030if people actually read what focus lens did they would be crying. ignorance is bliss, they just dont realize it.
>>559728095> Rem: Naptime T2 changed from "unstoppable and -35% Damage resist while channeling" to "+0.5s Sleep Duration and +3m Radius">Rem: Naptime T3 now also grants +50% damage resist while channelingbro?
>>559728095Bet you feel real silly right now.
>>559727894leaguers get tilt at literally everything
How do you counter doorman
>heroes that require literally 0 brainpower can shit out a billion damage for freeWhy WHY
The darkness cums for you
Today I'm going to play calico.
>>559728402you ban him and hope you never see him
>"how strong is this hero?">1 if I play them>5 if I don't
warp stone distance should be based on the character's speed
>>559728402Buy Counterspell and parry his ultBuy Unstoppable and activate it when he comes into melee range to ignore his ult
>>559726881https://youtu.be/MhPjU2KXZh0?si=4XTVOFSpehoRz0pGID RATHER FUCK THE DEAD
>>559728576I will never be good at this game
sincerely graves doesnt belong to this game. That character is too strong and has no skill requirement to play.
Out of like MoKrill Yamato and Shiv how are the close range bruisers doing nowadays
>eido playing doormanyeah he's SSS+ tier
>Nightlock Deadshift is on right now>Team 1: Calico Yamato Drifter Venator Ivy Mo&Krill>Team 2: Wraith Viscous Abrams Mirage Billy DoormanSo dee el gee, who are we rooting for, which team is /ourdudes/?
>>559728453>WAAAAAAH MY M1 GAMEPLAY!!!Sorry, gunnigger.
>>559728662>aiming is a skillGo play cod or fortnite or whatever
>>559728843>no victordont care
>>559726667>ZA HANDO
>>559728843>NightlockDeadlock but with the map at night the way it should be>DeadshiftA Mario Kart style racing game but with Deadlock characters
https://old.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ro8igc/60_win_rate_in_eternus_with_30_pick_rate_nobody/why you guys playing this game until victor is nerfed? street brool is probably like 65% winrate or more. Even reddit knows how fucking retarded victor is
>>559723317The map design is garbage. Is it just a full 3D version of the shitty, basic LoL and other lowbrow MOBAs maps.Everything but the lanes should be designed like a shooter map.
>>559728843>no hazedont care
>I, the based, humble, and skillful Shiv have 60k souls>They, the disgusting, skill-less bitch Infernus with 57k souls>I have Spirit Resilience and Witchmail>Infernus ambushes me>While he's hitting his 10 billion RPM shots (20% accuracy) to stack burn I hit three knives, my dash (full Rage) and 2 point blank alt shotgun blasts>Burn procs>He dashes through me>I get out of the dash almost immediately>He gets away with a like 100HP or so and lives>I burn to death having just taken 4200 damage from an Infernus auto-attacking me for 3 seconds and then standing in his aids pool for 1 secondYes, Infernus feels very balanced after the update.Waiter, waiter! More Shiv nerfs please!
>>559726201Based trvthposter, Holliday is pure flash and no function.>>559725763They're working on a rework
can they at least make graves skulls easier to light melee? i cant even tell their hitting me half the time in these cluster fuck fights
>Someone calls me a pedophile>Tell him I am I love them young (jokingly)>We're going to fucking kill you>Tell him all you people do is impotently seethe>Epstein won you lost>Nothing will ever happen
>>559720959>AI slop OPbad look
>>559723317>Supposed next big update is supposed to finally finish the citySource? Tyler McNigger?
>>559728992the lanes are literally the only thing similar to other mobas since they have no 3d space
>>559728961it's more
>>559729015It's time you realized there are Designated Loser Heroes that the devs don't give a fuck about and will dumpster. Shiv and Holliday are hogtied and shoved into cuck cages for some reason despite not even being that good pre-patch while random niggers get crazy buffs>Dynamo forced into being a support only with no combat potential>Hmmm lets give McGinnis one billion little nigger turrets
>>559729108The non-lane parts of the map are empty and simplistic just like LoL
>losing streak>play Paige>winDo I buy the knee socks now or in the morning?
You messed with the wrong team.
Just hit Oracle with 68.4% winrate
i just can't understand why victor's winrate is so high when he's a fat piece of shit until 20-30 minutes, and even then he is an easy target because he will just be farming jungle/lane. just gank him
so do you not play Mina as an early game bully anymore? just like a late-game scaling assassin?
>>559729147kekaroo
>>559729458It's not a bad thing for a team to have a dedicated lanejanny at all. If anything it's a positive to know that one guy on your team will make sure yellow and green are permapushed
>>559720959why are whitoids so insecure that they will make things worse on purpose just to not be reminded that black people exist
>>559729458if you rush pain battery he isn't a green creep anymoreread the patchnotes sometime
>>559728961>>559729147>Ok guys we made a retardnigger hero who just holds W. His counterplay is that if you cc him and keep him from getting into melee range, he can't do much other than soak damage>Oh also let's give him two free debuff removers
>Apollos rune thingy does 200 damage at level 1 with no items>It also sends him flying away in the air so he can just dash out of any counterplayliterally who designed this fucking character
>>559729712He's green AND he's a creep who stalks cute Deadlock girls through the jungle and ogles her when she climbs ziplines
>>559729712yes i have read them and i play victor frequently, pain battery was always the rush unless under specific situationshe's still easy to gank
>>559729863Ismail's self insert
>>559728961>>559729147>>559729798there's a significant number of victor downplayers in /dlg/ and it's so fucking tiresome
>>559728757Yammy and Mo+Grill are fucking disgusting right now
so does /dlg/ think celeste is overpowered like reddit or are you guys human
DELETE DOORMAN DELETE DOORMAN DELETE DOORMAN!!!!! STUPID NIGGER HERO NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!
>>559730001Compared to the other OP characters this patch? No.
threadly reminder
IN HERE I AM KANG!
is there any point in not just selling Swift Striker for Ricochet once you hit late game and are out of slots? you lose 2% fire rate in exchange for the ricochet passive which seems like a great deal
>win 5 games >not even one division rank upWhy Yoshi?
>>559729919I thought shiv was his self insert
>>559729684calico would look hotter if she was white and thats a fact
>>559730206If you can clear creeps efficently without ricochet, you dont need it. if you have the money, just swap it for creep clear. its meme thinking that its focused for team fights, its just a bonus.
>>559721101Last time I opened Deadlock was November 2024 according to Steam. I only remember the game exists when I'm browsing the catalog and see an OP with the new werewolf lady. Hope you guys are doing alright.
>>559730208did you hard carry the games with most kills? or did you just leech off someone else and get lucky for 5 games
>wraith utling a 1 hp mo with rejuvnice pro play jesus
>>559730320I want my nubian dommy mommy though (she also shares my hatred of nonbinary asian hapa FAGGOTS)
>>559728453Holliday pickers in flames (their abysmal contribution to the team getting untouched as she is undergoing a full rework as they insist their Fun supersedes the need of the team's Fun by Winning)
Anyone else getting random stutters during the match after the last patch? changing settings doesn't seem to affect it.
>>559730334well i was just thinking about items that keep your fire rate % while giving more benefits than swift striker, im trying to figure out how mina works now that she's more late-game focused
>>559730369they might all be eternus w.e but tournaments are archon level gameplay
>>559730369its called aura farming unc
>>559729287You forgot "let's give Victor, the second highest winrate hero, huge buffs"
>>559730123>new york accent circus girl>yuri baithuh. does every performer mean they're a transbian to them or what
>>559730524then why don't you go pro and rake in the big bucks if you could beat all of them?
>>559730516try cheaper items, blood tribute, burst fire, vampire aura, shadow weave!. small % are nice but if you have swift striker just keep it till you find a replacement that covers the missing firerate. could also just skip swift striker completely.
>>559730337A bit of both I get good kda in all of them tho. like 9-4 ect
>>559730524yeah playing ranked and playing in coordinated teams is way too different but some of these players don't even have mechanics
I want to play Mina but i absolutely suck at aiming and harassing people with her 1.
>>559730770then don't play her, u will feed
>>559725615HUGE wolf mommy
>eido is completely fucking piss useless unless he's on perma mina dutylol
>>559727979If the balance wasn't so fucked I'd perma him because the amount of value for how little skill is required is way too high.
>>559730631back in dota ti, they are the top players playing, but the gameplay during those, were considered low level even years later. like average matches. even the players who played in it said it themselves when looking back.all im saying, its just easier to watch and relate since the matches are not where yoshi/icefrog wants them to be or players havent/aren't trying to figure the whole shebang.
>>559720959Hello /dlg/, it's time for Random Bullshit Balance Talk again. Today's subject: TTK(Time To Kill) on the current patch.>Do you think TTK is in a good spot right now, or should it be longer or shorter?>Do you like the way TTK currently "flows" between early, mid and lategame?>If you wanted TTK changes, would you prefer it to be achieved? For example via changes to overall damage, healing, availability and duration of crowd control, item changes, etc
>>559730976>Viscous and Abrams
>>559730976OH NO NO ONE TRICK FRAUD EXPOSED
>>559730976yea the guy is fated to be a one trick
>>559729032King>>559729490I have no fucking clue, apparently people are still playing her though because I never get her.
>>559729984How to play Yammers? I"ve been keen on picking her up
>>559730123Celeste isn't even close to being as OP as Calico
>>559730992It says a lot that my shitter friend who always feeds his ass off and never buys counters can get positive k/d on Warden and only Warden
Why is Bebop F tier in every tierlist?
>>559731030map/jungle/new mid boss isn't done yet, to me that's more important to future meta play than heroes or new heroes
>>559730976>13k objective damage on Mirage while everyone else combined has roughly the same amountWelcome back, Nature's Prophet.
>>559731041>throw double paradox time bomb at falling rejuv>entire opponent team dies in 2 secondsworking as intended
>>559731041too fast after patch
>>559731041I think the TTK should be shortened and all green items should be removedand it should be rebranded as a hero shooter (Valve does Overwatch 3!) because that is the direction this game is going
>>559730770>>559730852play mina anyway who cares
>>559731195i think his ult is too long of a cd to be NP unfortunately, unless you just max his 3 and then his ult and ignore his tornado and 1's upgrades entirely
>>559730976>DOOR MAN IS LE BUSTED???heh
>>559731173Those tier lists are made by eternus players who know how to counter him, shitlow doesn't know how, that's why Bebop rapes down there
>>559729919That's clearly Mirage dingus.
>>559729798>oh and we nerfed shiv to 39% winrate btw
>>559730631>then why don't you go pro and rake in the big bucks if you could beat all of them?Yeah dude wasting 12 hrs a day playing an alpha moba to win $400 in a tournamentwoaw
Doorman is a joke compared to Calico
>game is like two years old>still 0 good youtubers just making normal videosi guess midlock is ok but a bit too memey gameplay for me. jesus christ why are all these deadlock streamers and youtubers so insufferable
>>559731173He gets countered hard by dispel and counter-spell, which practically everyone gets since it's quite literally the easiest spell to counter next to Seven's stun. I imagine if there was ever an Aghanim's added to the game, his upgrade would 100% involve his bombs being unable to be removed
>>559731330FOR THE DJINN
>>559728961>>559729147>street brawlThese posts are amazing bait
>>559731275>>559731195echo shard refresher tp
>>559731265The face and neck are fucked
>>559730976Eido is dogshit and if him and Oses are around for the first TI I hope he tears his asshole open.
>>559731418*paf paf paf*YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHFOR THE DJINNAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHH*paf paf paf*
What the fuck doorman is fun as fuck.>Tanky as fuck>Speedy as fuck>Impossible to catch>Impossible to escape>Run around ganking and trolling everyone>Serve up kills to your team like room service
>>559731502FUCK YOU MIRAGE
>>559731518Still not even a quarter as strong as Calico right now
>victor rapes>calico rapes>wraith rapes>haze rapes>doorman rapes>bebop rapes>mokrill rapes>celeste rapes>drifter rapes>venator rapes>seven rapes>viscous rapes>mcginnis rapes>just buy debuff reducer, reactive barrier, counterspell, dispel magic, metal skin, warp stone, divine barrier, spellbreaker and have no item slots lefttired of this patch
>>559731372Because it's an invite only game and unfinished?
>>559731656>Target locked..
>>559731275>max ult>get trophy collector>non stop brool getting bounty stacks with scarab ganksThis is the way
>>559731518He was fun last patch, now he's boring and braindead
>>559731690>leaguetrannies when they have to read tooltips and use active itemsKEK back to skillshotslop and flash on every champ
>>559731690God I wish Geist forced herself on me
>>559731668Calico is strong? What the fuck is wrong with Calico players?
>>559731690>posting geist and pretending she also does not rapedisingenuous nigger never post again
it's really funny how half the people here whine about 2/3rd of the roster now because they're unable to move on from the fact that they're not good enough to shit on newly buffed characters like they used to or the fact that their character is 900% going to be reworked because they didn't get touched
>>559731690You can't buy fucking anything against Calico in laning phase. You can literally do nothing against this character that can dive with impunity like no other character can
>>559731934Adieu :)
I think the fact that Sinclair doesn't have an actual face but just a mustache and a general face shape is funny.
>>559731926>it's really funny how half the people here whinehalf the battle is being able to adjust fast to weird ass patches being rammed down your throat when icefrog is involved.
>>559731907It's lolbabs tyvm
>>559731926Holliday and Sinclairbros, we just got TRVKED...
>entangled
>>559731923
>DefeatI tried my best guys. I was going to swap counter-spell for unstoppable but we lost the fight at our base. I'm new to Infernus, if you guys have any tips and tricks i'd love to hear em.
so when is Deadlock getting it's 7.0 moment
>>559732003its cuz the body is a mannequin
>>559732214pubbies build spirit geist.
>>559732082this is one of the most intensive kit rework patches in deadlock history doe, patch pace is much slower
>Diviner's Kevlar proc on mirage ult without completion of the teleport>Can use it for a free 1k shield for a 1v1
>>559732214
>>559728865ofc it is, since you have to kill other players. Autoaim is such a ridiculous adventage.
>>559732289>Eternus>Purple Geist
>>559730976he griefed so the devs wouldnt nerf doorman>>559731041shits fucked
>>559732289>assumed gun geist was a meme>try it>blow retards brains out as they flee from me in terror
This is Neon Prime Dynamo, say something nice about him
>>559731041fuck off yoshi. not beta testing ur game for free
>>559732163Holliday will get buffed just so she'll still have to put in way more work only to get less damage than Wraith
>>559721705This community are such parasites they'll just all hop onto whoever's the most broken hero in the game no personality just "what is meta with meta items lol" imagine playing games like that
>>559732419Eternus nowadays? Yeah.
>>559732536>Lash lost to this
>>559732536WELCOME TO SHITTY WOK TAKA ORDA PREE
>>559732536DEIlock sissies...
>>559731041>yes>yes>not muchoverall I think matches were getting too long in the tooth (45 mins avg), I think the kit mini reworks went a long way towards moving it to be faster
>>559732219Bro your rapid recharge and unstoppable???
I'm tired of losing games because the enemy team manages to get all the broken characters on their team. While my team goes around gets raped for the next 30 minutes. Game needs a draft mode now!
i'm noticing a pattern
>>559732778What item should I have replace for rapid recharge?
There is nothing you can do against Calico in lane
>>559732881that's actually a man, isn't it?
>>559732536I'm sorry but the face makes the design cerified kino.
>>559732881if your pattern is that women play supports, the four women i know who play deadlock play drifter/victor/billy/venator/doorman
>>559731041TTK is bad right now, both for players and objectives
>>559732518I find it funny how gun geist was probably her originally planned playstyle as well since there's a bunch of lines for how her gun is special and a gift from her late husband.
>>559732985i'm still noticing a pattern
>>559732404McGODS run this game
>>559732881>females and trannies all play as either mina, paige, rem, celeste, or silveryeah, i noticed the pattern alright
>>559732985I've noticed more women playing the game that are on Paige recently. I think the deadweight gamergirls are catching on to the game.
>>559732536its hilarious how more companies couldnt be like valve valve saw how shit this was and turned it into Deadlock which has 100k concurrent players pre fucking release imagine if the Hyenas devs did that shit or any of these slop hero shooter games "hey our game fucking sucks lets change it" instead of just releasing it and hoping retards latch onto it
>>559732245Yea and I like it, his design is perfect, just needs higher graphical fidelityBut even then his early development model adds to his weirdness.
>>559732536Reddit and in extension /dlg/ can't make me hate jolly fat sumo dudes. Is his armour horrendous looking? Yeah sure but that was just neon prime as a whole. Everything looked awful in that.
>>559732518>>559733059Spirit was always a meme except when it was viable once in like 2024 and it was aids.
>flame teammates, try hard to win, get upset if I lose>almost every game is a stomp>finally let go of my ego one day when I'm about to uninstall>play like dogshit, use chat in the middle of fights, never pay much attention to macro, take bad fights 99% of the time>every match is super close, <10k soul diff before final push, ggs all around, everyone is friendly and having fun during the matchDeadlock is about the soul's escape from Samsara
>>559733119>tfw had a paige main on my team in 5 brool matches in a row>her steam name was fat bitch or something like that>her steam profile had a picture of her and she was a 8/10 thick pawgthere's an INSANE amount of e-girls in deadlock right now in na at least i'm sure there's only males and subhumans in eu
>>559732985Based fujos
>>559732887Duration extender. You also dont need to grab the max sprint, just the 1600 is enough for movement slow reduction. Try planning out your build like this>10k soul networth = 10 mins (or ealier if youre owning) 1k per minute>if i had 10k, what makes me strong at 10min?>15k = 15 minute or ealier if youre owning>if i have 15k at this time, what makes me stronger than the enemy team?Etc etc for itemizations and timings.
>>559733292how did you know they're all fujoshi
>>559733267welcome back to 2024 kek
>>559733121to be fair, those guys answer to suits and I doubt they can just randomly decide to do a hard shift mid development like valve/icefrog can
>>559733075>Vtuber foid playing with a 6 stack of simpsOf course.>>559733121I'm still pissed about Hyenas because Total War Warhammer 3 was a wet turd on release because Sega allocated like 90% of Creative Assembly's resources to make a scifi pve extraction shooter that literally had shit like tranny characters
>>559732985i cant play anything besides victor and rem in normal modebilly and drifter in street brawl are my goats
>>559729684
>>559733290you're right about the eu thing its just seething russians, esls and eastern europeans playing from their 2 population village all the bitches are in the south african or oceanic servers maybe
There is literally nothing you can do against Calico in lane
Dudes, i cant understand how does the stats scale in this game. Some gear gives only 125 hp, but im quite sure the impact is A LOT more than that.
>>559733267I used to play with a guy who would build echo shard geist, proceed to throw every match and then cry about how everyone was so horribly balanced. He also cries about vindicta to this day.
>haven't played for a year or so (before the menu change)>last time I played top heroes were Seven, Viscous and Haze>Ivy was popular due to her healing and constant pushing abilityLooks like nothing has changed
>>559733267Honestly with her kit spirit tank makes the most sense, to get the most value from her ult and health drain
>>559733290>>559733119what heroes do I play to get these e-girls to want to duo with me
>>559732985I've had multiple female Drifters in my games, including one who's entire Steam profile was dedicated to how sexy Astarion and Drifter are
I'M STILL NOOOOOOOOOOOTICING A PATTERN BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT PATTERN NOW
>>559733290meanwhile on Hong Kong servers its a 50-50 if you get english names or CN/JP people who don't communicate ANYTHING
>>559733471The latest patch was really fucking bad. Buffed Victor, Calico, Doorman, Wraith, and Drifter to braindead OP status.
>>559733542apollo
>>559733319I'll keep that in mind, thank you!
>>559733459
>>559733542if you're an e-boy then probably apollo/doormanif you're a sugar daddy with money then probably victor/venator
>>559733581Sevensissies...
>>559733121Neon Prime was literally Battleborn-Concord tier. Generic sci-fi but everyone is goofy, ugly and retarded.
>>559733581that youre a tranny?
>>559733735what if im a fat chud that has a mediocre office job and does art in my free time
>>559733650NTA but late game, you should really think about throwing away titanic mag for Literally Anything ElseIf you still want ammo escalating resilience could be good fi they have heavy gun damage or get something that makes you survive. Also I'd argue superior duration IS worth keeping around since it makes your afterburn and toxic bullets last a long fucking time.Get rid of soul shredder bullets and never get spirit rend other than that the advice anon gave was good.
>>559733650here is my shitty build that i made for my kelvin for example. though this is all base on my experience/personal knowledge from my own games. i've sat around all my heroes for similar builds to hit their strong points or how i want.. hope it continues to help.
>>559733890drifter/mirage/viscous
>>559733890>i'm a fatdynamo, shiv, infernus
>>559733943EGG
Does this patch mean we won't get any more Silver cope during Night Shift matches?
Nighshift is infinitely more boring without Silver
>>559733964>>559733976so pretty much i have to learn how to play carries
>>559734076dynamo and shiv aren't carries, tho shiv can transition to semi/anti carry if he gets ahead
>>559734047>>559734067it went 1-2
>>559733581>12 viewersthat you are looking for faggots intentionally? what a homo lmao
>>559734076healsluts are sluts for carries only, this is known
>>559734076carries are really hot especially if you play well
silverbros help
>>559733943why the fuck are you picking ballistic enhancement And no healing booster/tempo?
>>559733059>since there's a bunch of lines for how her gun is special and a gift from her late husband.which ones
what is the counter to counterspell
>my top 5 most played are Geist Mirage Yamato Mina Dynamowhat does this say about me
Street brawl is slop and main mode is just cortisol farming designed by some sort of demented imp. Add workshop already so we can make something good out of this you fucking retards
>>559734274artic beam goes burrrrrrrrand healing boost is a meme, can still splat 51k+ healing alone.
>>559734352Truth
>10k more net worth than the rest of his team>his team had a lead over the other team and now they lost it>he's now just ratting and taking out walkers while his team dies around himWelcome back, Furion.
>>559733943>no duration+cdrbait
>>559734305gun
>>559734308you use your mouth to breathe
>>559734352yet you still play
>>559734305fake heavy
geist looks fun how do you build her?
Wraith is seriously making the game unplayable. No other character in the history of this game has ever had an ult that can instantly delete anyone in a 1v1 with zero skill involved.
Just me or Mirage Mark hits like 3x times harder now?
>>559734497It's hilarious if you compare her to Holliday and the effort she has to put in
>>559734417i really like them both and couldnt fit into it. echo shard already helps me spam beam but i feel the pain on my nades.
The funniest part about this patch is that they could've just left Silver untouched and 9/10 anons here would be "yoooo GOATED patch lesssgoooo ICEFROG COOKING fr ONG"
So how do you think remodeled mid boss is going to look like?I'm assuming like a mini patron of his own theme. Would be neat if it's a rotating lineup of revenants and spirits.Like spring-heeled Jack looking mf. Some Green/White Lady ghosts and so forth.
>>559734582I'd drop Ballistic for it. You need it for the ult CD.
>>559734497>wraitth is niggerfaggotaidscancer>but calico is also niggerfaggotaidscancer>only one ban>ban only works 50% of the time>games boil down to which team gets the wraithcarry, the calicocarry or heaven forbid the victorcarryaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>see I'm laning against Calico>already know that she's going to stomp me and then proceed to destroy my entire team afterwards
>>559734629I always thought it'd be some sort of genie looking dude
>>559734652>140 to 109sughhhhhhh okay
what did they change on wraith besides the new cards? why is she so op? the ult is different?
>>559734629its just gonna be some sewer monster
can those zoomers shut the fuck up oh my god they are insufferable to listen to
>doorman can fountain hook people on his own
>>559734567>Your character requires skill?>Oh...oops...what if a braindead M1 character did everything better instead?
>>559734807Full Auto
>>559723231>skillThe entire match is decided by which team has more faceroll heroes. There is no more skill involved in this game.
bussin no cap no cap GOATED frrrr SHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSHHHHH you see the DOORMAN SAC?? yooo victor is so TUFF bruh
>>559731694with the same active players as path of exile? and it's a competitive multiplayer game so it's literally the easiest thing in the world to make "content" on it?
>>559734491Gun or spirit like any other hero
>>559734497wraith already had that before her old ult was basically "you die lol" , it was like 3 uninterrupted seconds of free headshots
I'm only carrying with Mo&Krill because I'm a ritualist shitter and everybody on my games just builds damage L-R, right? He's not that strong against competent players, right?
>>559734713What did they even change with Calico, I barely see her still
>>559734920tracking a moving target with m1 takes more skill than clicking in the range of a target and casting though
>>559734491>lower your health in neutrals>veil walker>soul exchange>kill
>>559722628ah yes "skillshots" 10 characters wideI bet you think punch is a skillshot too
>>559734708>>559734497>Wraith is braindead OP now>Victor is even more OP now>Doorman is OP now>Calico is even more OP now>Can only ban one character and otherwise all of them require very specific counterpicks or spending 6-9k souls exclusively on items that counter themThis is easily the worst patch for Deadlock in over two years.
>>559735069The whole point about mk is to stalk noobs/weakest player
>>559734861>>559734968it's so funny how deadlock e-sports is like 4 boomer washed up e-sports casters and then 30 zoomer streamers/pros on addy
>Eido literally throws the gameI play a better Lash than this dude lmao
>>559735115Just get Blood Tribute to drop health quickly it's good anyway.
>>559735069He kinda needs follow up from your teammates after a certain point, so if your team is really uncoordinated he won't do much He is still insanely tanky though
>>559722628Bell is not a skillshot at all and the cart is super easy to land since it's janky as fuck and has no animation, and his ult is nearly impossible to escape now since every doorfaggot gets slowing hex or knockdown or cold front which guarantees that you are not able to escape the hotel.
anyone else game stuttering like shit since last updatemy pc rig is like $5k I can run everything on high
>>559735167the conspiracy is that he threw the game on purpose so that doorman wouldnt get nerfs, because the devs have been confirmed to balance around twitch
>>559732404Silverbros?
VINDICTA WON A PRO GAME LET'S FUCKING GO FOOTPUSSY ENTHUSIASTS
>>559735157MK stalks the best player in enemy team though.
>>559735069>He's not that strong against competent players, right?his ult insta removes any one person on their team. there is zero counterplay either. what do you think?he's fucking broken
>>559735360the best players are the noobs!
>>559735076Fortunately every single M1 hero comes with a stun/snare so they don't even need to track now!
>enemy wraith drops a 3k bagDamn it was bigger than Rem lmao
>>559734047>>559734067Yeah it's just boring nowLike watching a pub where there's no hope of coming back and nothing funny happening except that one lash ult where he threw mo at his own mirage (credit where it's due though that was pretty funny)
>>559735573>Wolf the Bounty Hunter
>pick calico>pick wraith>pick no & skill>win lmao
>>559735546That was her hard earned reward for holding W and M1 like a lobotomized chimp
>>559734708Just play viscous, h counters them all. Wraith the least but it's fun punching Victor all over and not letting him get in range to hurt your team
these zoomers are hilarious to listen to. a live parody
>>559735614It's funny how you can look at this at match start and immediately it's apparent that team blue is going to lose. The match is decided at character selection.
>>559735826Then maybe they should draft better.
the tier list is out and clearly graves needs to be nerfed more
>>559735614Except they were losing until Lash threw the fucking game away?
any customs bros ?
>>559735917whats this based on? graves is top 10 winrates still in all elos on tracklock, with high pickrate
>>559731041Past early game, its just broken.It doesn't feel good to get insta-deleted by a mediocre Wraith that just left-clicks your torso.Nor does getting a third of your health get deleted by a single bell of Doorman...
>>559735917>Bebop had the reputation of being Hitler before last patch >All he gets in the new patch is a fucking hook change>The patch has made half a dozen heroes broken OP bullshit and nobody gives a shit about Bebop anymore
>>559735826Eidorian is garbage.
>>559734196>>559734213ok well who are the easiest heroes to learn carrying on?
>>559735917Celeste and Doorman are not as powerful as Calico or Wraith. Mo and Krill is only in S+ Tier because of his ability to keep Calico or Wraith in check
>>559736098bebop is still a clanker hitler by designit's just that doorman, calico and wraith are hitlers too, arguably mo & krill as well
>>559735614I played against a stomping Vindicta today with that same exact build, was it the same guy?
>>559735614Aidan is not on Vin?
just tuned in, how'd melee creeps lose 2-0 i thought they were best in NA?
>be vindicta>buy no damage items>do the most damage
>>559731041>EarlyLaning phase is ok and doesnt feel too different compared to pre patch>Midgame+Idk what the fuck they did but everyone is getting raped to death instantly, it feels like shit
>>559736119Victor probably by virtue of not needing to aim for shit. although I haven't kept track of if he had any major changes in playstyle/viability since the new patch.
>>559736305no silver to carry them
just nerfing silver's ult timer would have been perfect, cant even catch anyone unless I have phantom strike ffs
>>559736402spirit investments still mean you'd do a shitload of damage with snipes thoughbeit
>>559736443sar please redeem the enduring speed
>>559736119victor all you have to do is farm well and not be retardedthe meta rn is maybe getting infuser pretty early so you can participate in team fights and rape people
>>559736443How can you not catch people with a free 4+ m/s movement speed buff, two dashe skills and a 2 stamina refund and a 2 second stamina disable+slow and also another slow in wolf form?
>win a lot of games>don't go up a rank>lose 3 games in a row>go down a ranknice shit system yoshit
>>559736426They made pain battery much stronger in exchange for aura getting nerfed, and the meta on him now is buying the goose egg and farming for 30 minutes
>>559736649you're just supposed to play one game and wait for the next rank boost
>>559736258That's the Vindicta buildThat's what she does, sometimes you get rescue beam.
>>559736598>>559736426sounds fine, i like victor as a heroill just name some heroes and you can say if they sound like a good or a bad idea to spend time learning>haze>infernus>apollo>venator
Mo and Krill is the anti-Hitler
>>559736845if your goal is to get egirls/women play victor, apollo and venatorapollo gets yumesvenator fujosvictor a mix of both
>>559736613You're on a very limited window where you often need the heal to land that stamina refunding dash, anon. Often even more limited by the fact that you have to transform early to get a sliver of HP backAnd that's assuming you haven't had to use it on the approach
>>559735917>My favorite hero in S+These FAGGOTS are going to get my boy doorman nerfed back aren't they? If they do I'm getting to eternal and feeding in all their fucking games
>>559736845They are all pretty good, Apollo is probably the hardest one since he starts very strong but falls off hard compared to others.
>>559735917She feels trash to play now...and when faced with one, it's never a problem.Idk who can seriously have problems with the character, she can only push lines and gets raped in seconds (still the hottest girl in the whole roster tho...)
>>559735021You could still run from the projectile to a safe place. Now it's instant AND also prevents stamina usage.
>>559736828>That's the Vindicta buildSince when? I've been building her with half gun half spirit damage items for a while, I never got the memo of this weird support Vindicta build.
>>559736804>play one gameI can't do that this shit is more addicting than crack. It helped me quit ever since I picked this game up.
>>559737165That seems to be a controller support Vindicta, she is typically played more like a support in pro play.
>>559736845All pretty good but apollo is not really a carry, he's more of a early-mid game stomper but struggles to deal with the spellbreaker+spirit res combo late game when they come online and also counterspell.
>>559737074as a graves main i might just lock it in as a doormanfaggot and geistfaggot and just make the game miserable for everyone else because this patch is so bad
>>559737248>>559737063>>559737009who should i replace him with then? thanks again
>>559736881It's more a Luke and Bigger Luke situation.
Why did they buff Calico, a hero that did NOT need a buff?
This patch is great and a lot more fun. Heroes should feel powerful and this should be the base power level they balance around
>>559735917sick fucking meta
>>559720959wow I wish that was calico
What changed with mo that made him first ban worthy?
I'm the raging guy from before. I just want to apologise for my behaviour from the past few days. It's unacceptable but I just get so angry to a point of wanting to throw my life away at the nearest target to a point of partially losing sight and getting a headache. I become a mental animal.I even ended up doxxing the face of the wrong person who had wronged me, some Pollack instead of a dude from the Netherlands. Either way it was horrible of me and I'm so sorry. Me getting older and older also causes insecurities about my performance in games, especially with unhealthy lifestyle. I've uninstalled the game already and I won't bother you with messages in here in the future. Take care /dlg/.
>>559737395Favoritism probably
>>559737439All the frontliners require skill.
>>559721705played against a doorman/vin lane earlier todayyou cannot trade at all in it, getting caught out even for a second is a death sentence
>>559736305they actually thought doorman was competitive lol
Does anyone else feel like Venator is kinda dookie? I've played him about the past 20 games and he just feels painfully mid. Not bad, but the mishmash of stuff feels like he excels at nothing and no amount of itemization makes him feel decent. His gun is decent in lane, but he doesn't really feel impactful with farm.>ult build has 125s CD unless you buy cdr, needs 5 points for pure damage>melee build cute but pretty bad for team fighting, no escape abilities once you're in so maybe blow up one person and die>m1 build middling at best, no ability buffs to gun, stats are mediocre compared to another gun carry like warden>can't stack grenade damage with recharging rush just reapplies, only impact damage scales>watching organized games, character seems to mostly just farm and m1 without having a ton of impact>47% WR overall, 50.6% in eternus
>doorman is allowed to have the highest damaging spirit nuke ability in the game right from the start and it only gets better as the game goes on plus it recharges extremely quickly and you get multiple charges of it, even more with rapid rechargesoo... why?
Has doorman seen any picks/success in the tournament?
why the fuck is jump and mantle the same key? i want to walljump but the fucking retard game makes me mantle instead
>>559737281I sold my soul and became a Wraith-bot: it's so stupidly easy to just spam cards and fuck everyone, it's disgusting (I hate the character, but I rather hold the gun that be against the wall).I don't know who the hell thought that a character like this, that even has a stupid teleport, should do so much damage (and let's not forget the stupid infinity ammo on 3...).
>>559737523Scorn is better, combo does a lot more dps, and investing in T3 skills is a lot more impactful for lategame. Scorn changes are the biggest though because he was total ass in lane before and now his sustain actually works, which makes retards cry
>>559730336We're not. But thanks for the thought.
>>559737530
When people add me after matches to tell me to kill myself I respond with overwhelming positive neutrality. Most of them start acting confused after a few messages and almost always end with wishing me good luck. I don't feel anything in acting nice, but making them feel bad on a fundamental level does. Seeing them try to handle the awkwardness brings me joy.
>>559737742I see, thank you.
>>559737680the few games i had on wraith were boring, it doesn't matter if i ended up winning or losing, when i'm on wraith and i melt enemies with multiple cards, with her ultimate, with her m1, it's just boring...
>>559737670Only when his portal let you carry the urn through it and then that was patched out
>>559737670eido and saiah has both picked doorman in the tournament and they've both failed massively because they try to play him as "le ebin door trickster jukester" when they need to stop overthinking it and play him as a bellcuck and ultcuck
>>559737680All you have to do is sit there drooling at your keyboard until you get in a bad spot then you can just teleport away with zero consequences.
>>559737647He is mid, but his kit is fun and feels right.Yeah, he is not part of the new broken fuckers, but he doesn't feel useless either (few things in the game feel as good as sniping someone with a bolt, as they burn stamina trying to dodge it).
>>559737675stop holding forward if you don't want to mantle but yes mantle is a dogshit mechanic in every game
>>559737439i sure wonder who you main
>>559737949ive been saying that, people need to recognize that kidnapping doorman isn't the play anymore, you play him as a bell spammer and cart spammer mid-fights, doors are only used for escaping and chasing now
>>559736649you're supposed to only pick the current OP heroes and get carried while watching tiktok videos on the side
pictured: the only heroes you're allowed to pick if you want to play the game and have fun and win
>>559737985>Church bells in the distance while I hear *CHWOOO*>*CHWOOOO*>My team dies all around mePure, distilled, elemental kino
>>559737647'melee build' is literally just 1 item, maybe two if you really want. it's a situational checkmate ability which is ridiculously strong for the small investment.his m1 is really good, his gun is just great. fastest projectile in the game which is 2x faster than the 2nd fastest, decent mag size and fire rate.traps can lead to free kills if people don't pay attention to it or comboing it with set up abilities (doorman ult/mo etc)I think his problem is that his laning phase is pretty meh. I don't play him but hes my favorite out of the new batch in terms with how he plays, he doesn't feel unfair but he's also not weak either. he's a pretty well designed character all around.
mo & krill is the only one i've seen in matches that can routinely go 0-20 the first 30 minutes and still win anyway
futa celeste>keep your eye on my balls, boys and girls!
>>559737668because doors and cart do no damage and hotel does very little you fucking moron, you absolute buffoon
>>559738458That's just any ult bot in general, it's the same for dynamo.
>>559736305Eidorian is a fraud.
>>559738458literally all you have to do is press 4 on the highest elo enemy hero every single fight until they tilt
Which character would unironically take AIPAC money?
>>559738490>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY 3 ABILITIES DO NO DAMAGE>IGNORE MY SPAMMABLE ABILITY DOING 5000>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>559738458Welcome to initiators in dota. You have one job and even without utility, you can do that job. Having items just lets you be more disruptive for longer
>>559738462I am tired of her leaping into my lane and forcing it down my throat and getting away with it...
>>559738576McGinnis
>>559738576Mina
>>559736305they threw the game, they were really far ahead but then decided to pull peak Ritualist gameplay
>born to play mina, graves, silver and geist>forced to metaslavesigh...
>>559738128Abrams is busted still, but maybe I'm carried by my movement.
if you dont egg, you lose
>>559738803Geist is still good my man
>>559738803Is this why the fucking Qs are so long? I geuss I'll spam Geist since I actually play her.
>>559738803
>>559738803mina is meta
>>559738803Isn't Geist better than ever? Spirit Geist got a buff too now that her ult buffs the fuck out of it>B-BUT SHE SELF D-DAMAGESJust play her like a caster tank and it literally doesn't matter. Self damage is reduced by spirit resist and you get it from all the best items in the game (escalating exposure, arctic blast, witchmail, spellbreaker). Just bee urself
>doorman ult calico>she just ults on exit>doorman ult ivy>stone forms on exit>doorman ult viscous>cubes on exitHonestly I'd trade the cooldown reset for a "Silence all abilities while inside Baronness".
>>559738803>banning calicoI mean yeah shes broken but calicos are retarded so I just let her through. Wraith is my ban of choice.
>>559738576literally mcginnis she's a lockheed martin employee
>>559739198>doorman nigger doesn't know he can ult other peoplelol
>>559738803There's a difference between being a meta slave and not being stupid: if the balance sucks and the broken characters are easy as hell to play, there's no reason to torture yourself with heroes that clearly suck (even more so considering that not playing the broken chars mean that the enemy team will probably have them).
What do you need on Graves to do damage?
>>559736804>for the next rank boostWait is that a thing? how do i see that?
>>559739635Half of the gun items in the shop...
>>559737668>highest spirit nuke abilityThat's not Yamato's Power Slash.
can anyone explain Infernus dash to me, is it mostly for escaping?
Gaping anal sex with the vietnamese vampire
>>559739635i wouldn't recommend playing graves this patch unless you can stick beside a m1gger carry duo friend 24/7, you're fighting an uphill battle against powercreep
>>559739887That and being anoying.
>>559738462Hot
viper has got to be the worst hero. there's just not much there
>>559739662they've been doing it for like months now i was like arcanist 3 in january now oracle 1
>>559739198>He doesn't save his ult for enemies that have been in the fight and have lost stamina>Doesn't save ult for low stamina characters>Doesn't use mystic slow and bell before locking them up for a 50% moveslow total>Doesn't use knockdown immediately before sending them in>Doesn't use slowing hex or arctic blast>Doesn't lock them in after carting into wall>Doesn't do one of the myriad of things that ensures they wont leave the hotel in timeYou don't deserve doorman
Celeste grooming Rem
>>559739635Stop playing deadlock until wraith and calico are nerfed.
>>559739887I let's to escape for free and it lets you rush down for free, giving you fucking bonus damage and reseting after burn the entire time.
Nigshift "pro"s will now quietly pretend they didn't upplay silver until she got take to see the flowers.
oh cool so this game is a moba and it has many dozen characters available to play as i can't wait to hop in and have fun oh wait i'm forced to play as either of two nigger women in order to not lose the matches?...
>>559739714Feels like toxic, split shot, and escalating used to be enough, now you can beam someone for 2 minutes without any greens and they are barely tickled.
Why the fuck are a whole team of retards allowed to be out of position and kill players on our side without their fucking wave pushed? Literally to their base and they just don't care? Make them fucking care.
Where is the black women of unoriginality poster? feels appropriate for the moment.
>>559731690How have I not seen this Geist art before. It must be old because it's her old design
>>559740442Yes but the uglier nigger is the more fun one to play and has a great kit while looking like a failed home movie ripoff bond villian
How can this game possibly be unfucked after this disaster of a """"balance"""" patch?
So this is the new meta
>tune into leefa's stream to hear their team comms>it's all a bunch of squeaky zoomers screaming at the top of their lungshow do they not have constant migraines, how do they even know what's going on
>check Geist builds>all the top ones are spiritWhat's the deal? Is Spirit geist no longer a low impact meme?
I played 8 games today in phantom rank and not a single silver to be seenbut every game had mokrill, and almost every one had victor and doormanrape and behead every man who just plays what he thinks is overpowered, and not just playing what he wants because he likes them
I told you fags that calico was OP before the balance patch
>watch Silver fight Vic in wolf form>she can barely close the gap>gets soloed by aura of painabsolutely amazing, her ultimate can't even deal with the slowest character in the game
Hugs with Rem
>>559740825she wasn't tho
>>559740805spirit geist got buffed but there's no hyper autistic geist main content creator to test whether gun or spirit geist is better, gun geist was better but didn't get buffs (it got nerfed if you count the changed gun sound as a nerf) and spirit obviously got buffs but nobody knows if it's enough to be better than gun
>celeste 0/7>mina 4/7>shiv 2/10>apollo 2/7besides victor who else can carry games that doesn't require good aim
>>559740824Oh victor isn't overpowered you just buy a dozen counter items and coordinate against him.Silver was overpowered though counter items and coordination? What's that?I have unironically seen people express this opinion and I can't fathom how retarded you'd have to be to think like this.
do faggots really crash out over losing a couple rounds in brawl? maybe im retarded but a 3 round stop always feels boring as fuck to me.
>>559740939depends on your definition of carry but apollo/doorman/geist/ivy/mo&krill/mcginnis/viscous/abrams/billy/dynamo
I have had the worst games I think I've ever experienced today. This was the least bad and it was still miserable.Every enemy team has had Wraith and every game they melt everyone so fast even regardless of resilience items.Our last game also had an Infernus who immediately bought egg and then abandoned my lane and never came back. All I can assume is that he was running around the map collecting boxes.He had the highest souls by the end but only joined us in two or three teamfights and had 2/1/3 by the end of the match. What in the fuck.
>>559740929NTA but>dives yous while pressing all her fucking buttons at once>becomes invincible afterwards so even if you don't die, you still can't retaliate>gets all her abilities back to make sure you're deadgg shake my hand
when are they removing the movement tranny bugs like edge and corner boosting
>gray talon loses 1v1 to gun rem somehowi think this guy might actually be the worst hero in the game right now
>>559741134>wraithGame was decided at character selection
>>559740939Wraith
>>559740939>Viscous>M&K>Calico if you can aim the bombs (different than gun aim?>Drifter>Abrams>Seven>Ivy>etc>etc>etc
>>559741185yes, that's what she doesdoesn't mean it's op
>>559741212Yoshit and hootpoo's favorite recreation together is edging, so it's not going anywhere.
>>559741185>>559740825calico was good but required skill to keep snowballingnow that she gets extra money she can just permanently roam and get a billion souls and just keep raping everyone it's retarded
>>559740898god I wanna suck and swirl his little barbed cock around in my mouth so bad
>>559720959>deadlock modding should be banned and has brought nothing of value Explain this
>yet another NA tournament going on right now>Silver was picked twice by some noname team>they lost both games in 20 minutes>other teams didn't even bother picking or banning silverSilver meme is officially dead.
>>559741373no one says this
>>559741212they arent bugs
>>559741045the problem is nobody buys those counters, and an unrelated problem is it's extremely hard to beat a farmed victor, he's the hardest hero to defeat out of anyone in the game if he's the one with the 10k advantage
gravesbros... minabros... i might have to find new mains this patch...
>>559737439fixed
I can't wait for the bunnysuit Silver mod with pubes peeking out.
>>559741185All of this means she's OP as fuck in lane, in a way that no other character can match up to. With a character that is designed to snowball. Calico is the definition of an OP character and they only buffed her further.
>absolutely destroyed Ivy's weapon scaling Who was even the retarded nigger that complained about her weapon damage being too strong in late game to a point they decided to fuck in the ass all the gun ivys?>But now she's a much better support! Just change playstyle bro!And i say you can support both of my testicles on your forehead, how about that?
>>559741514they will behead you for being so gay please stop
the year is 2026 door placement logic is still absolute garbage
>>559741625>graves mina paige rem celestehuh...
I see so the game is going for the LoL "balancing" strat of taking turns at making different characters broken while gutting the others into being utterly useless. With a couple exceptions that will be always too strong or kept weak because they are only good in pro play.Amd this is happening with a roster of 40 characters.
>>559741716not him but my lineup is mostly the sameim not a weirdo i just cant fucking aim
>>559741357If youre trying to be animal realistic, he'd have a cloaca.
>Viscous and Warden raped CelesteKek!
>>559741625I don't think I've ever seen a more transsexual hero page.
>>559741716what're you trying to say about my picks>>559741901i'll play victor, drifter, billy, venator, abrams and ivy just for you
>>559741670yeah the gun dmg nerf on her was stupid, she doesnt feel as flexible as before
>>559741625You're telling me
>>559742023buddy this one seems squarely on your shoulders
Buffs when...?
>>559741857that's what I said initially but someone pointed out his lower half is more felid like so it would make sense that he has a cute little barbed feline penis instead
Seven being gay makes sense when you realize most of his playerbase is Russian.
>all the winning teams have ivy>abrams is still strong>viscous is strong>mina and celeste are weak in comparison
Celeste isn't even that strong. Calico does what she does way better.
>>559742129But he can probably fly, right? You cant fly and have external genitals at the same time, theyd flop around in the wind.
>>559741421This guy did >>559694529
>>559742060Would you believe I didn't derank once through doing this? These were all Ascendant 1 in a row.
>>559742124i can realistically see graves being permanently nerfed with this dev team
>>559740404>use side tourney to try new things>were testing this on stream>lose in side tourney>suddenly this proves a single character is the entire meta
>>559741413>Hairy pits>B cup titsThat's my wife alright
>>559742245and I'm right, modding is cancer, can't wait for them to ban it, nothing good game out of this game's modding scene, just troon breeding ground
>>559741413Hold strong packmateWe'll see her resurging at the real night shift tourney
>someone takes my mina for the match>1/8/6>less than 5k obj damage>no remover>can't juke for shit>only ever using retreat for escape>abuses our paige for not shielding her during ult>win anyway because our drifter just can't stop engorging himself on the enemy rem and has 40 stacks of bloodscent
>>559729684calico currently looks like trash why are you fooling yourself
they need to change goo fist to be as long as a regular heavy melee to cast this shit is so fucking aids
>>559742343Why are you so passionate about something that doesn't affect you in the slightest?
THE WOLF IS AT YOUR DOOR character win?
>>559742446get punched caliconigger
>75>heavy hitI feel like this item is sleeper OP
enemy bebop in my last match was doing some fuck shit and somehow triple bombingwas he cheating or is there some bullshit new tech i need to be aware of(it was not mystic reverb)
>>559742472of course it affects me, there's p2w mods like tracking jungle camps and other info that people that don't mod don't get, eventually there will be blatant map hack mods just like in dota beofre they banned it, besides that it's just really cringe and annoying to look at all the troon-y mods and drama relating to them
>>559742583it's not really sleeper op everyone knows it's strong we just don't have enough item slots to take it with everything else
>No more sad Silver pics because she's now dog water in pro play
Apollo has too much air mobility. He should not be able to reliably nuke vindicta. This shouldn't be controversial.
is it me or Calico and Billy are fucking insane this patch?
2 MORE PATCH BVFFS TRVST THE PLAN SILVERBROS WE STOMP AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>559742343You're a nigger.
>>559742767NTA, but literally uglier than Paige, probably worse than most of the other women in the game.
>>559742706>caring about Apollo in the current patch
>>559742583Hey real quick: shut the fuck up about witchmail don't post about it again.
>>559742710Billy has been insane for a while, it's weird how understated that is. I think he's been top 3 at least since this last batch of characters came out.
>>559731264I think a could compromise is remove all greens and instead have every hero have the same HP but different levels of damage reduction and speed from 1-3(we can call this armor or something) But as your armor goes up your speed goes down. So Haze would be 1 armor 3 speed and somebody like Abrams 1 speed 3 armor. And with the TTK being really low we'll counter ability spam by having abilities be on a limited amount of charges per life(or round in street brawl). The peek out of cover function will be tied to Q and E instead of being automatic. I think this the way to go if Deadlock wants into e-sports
>>559742906Did I say he was OP retard
>>559742314Don't forget the abs
>>559742872Its true Paige is actually 9/10 hot but that nigger is qqing about modding when it's based to make TF2 in Deadlock.
>>559742583Not really a sleeper, it's a stapple on any character that's already tanky.This item may be single handedly keeping Shiv playable.
>>559721705>even with the omega buffs he's still listed as just B tierHuh?
Okay real question now, when pooping, does silver have to pull her tail to the front and hold on top of her thighs?
>>559743065God, I'd play with her armpit hair
why does my rank keep going up even when I lose, how tf am I Archon III
>>559743183She just shits on her tail and forgets about it. Doesn't wipe either
>>559741116statistically speaking 3 consecutive losses makes most people unhappy enough to stop playing a game
>>559743119He's still a utility character that's very greedy for damage and items, it's not surprising.
>>559742314She's just the best>>559742352Nah, it's over they killed our girl and forgot about her.>>559742740They gonna throw in the towel and rework her a year from now. Maybe even add a custom parry animation.
>start drinking water>start playing better in deadlocki see...
>people aren't just fucking buying a warp stone to leave the hotel California
Apollo sucks ass now. So many nerfs right in time for all of his favorable 1v1 matchups to get buffed to the moon and back. Would not be surprised if his winrate falls off a cliff this patch.
>>559743443>They gonna throw in the towel and rework her a year from now.I fucking hope not, I love her flavour how it is now, especially her ult. As it is it's perfect - literally a curse she can't control but still uses for her job, both a physical and figurative beast she has to manageThey shouldn't have kept nerfing her after the first one, they should have just let people learn how to buy slowing hexes and shred and warp stone to counter her. It's not like any of those are even bad items against other heroes anyway
>>559729050>>559729684cope harder shitties
>>559742982But when do we jump the shark? Is it when we get a green haired polish hero or when we get a hero in a wheelchair that pilots 2 bebops?
>>559743612>just have half of your slots be counter items only to lose anyways
>>559743612yeah bro just ignore his 50m bell that does 2k damage
>>559743346i'm talking about the rounds in one game of street brawl
>>559743119Silver was raped and gaped by a wild pack of nerfs inside a dark alley on a sweltering hot summer night during the ritual of 52
are geist and mina's considered carries?
>>559741670shes the only hero I can easily track headshots and shred people
doorman should not be able to abduct you into walkers
>>559743608As opposed to drinking piss?
>>559743969>picking Geist or Mina when the enemy team has Wraith or Calico
>>559722359What does Graves' butt smell like?
>>559743095>Shiv playableI've heard enough, nerf Shiv
New patch notes just dropped boys>T3 baroness cooldown on failure to check out increased to 20s>Baroness length now scales with spirit>Enemy silenced while attempting to check out>Duration of stay scales with ability durationSpirit max duration max for infinite hallway banish is the new build
>>559744136if thats what you call beer sure
>>559743838the AOE creep in this game already is insane
>>559731041>nerf all the frontlines designed to make space/bait cooldowns/soak damage>TTK lowerscrazy
>>559727509Fuck that faggot Victor
>>559742583difficult to justify getting bitchmail when Spellbreaker exists
>>559728843Always bet on door
why tf is billy perma pick in pro?
>>559744234>it's realwhat the fuck
>>559744103Ok, you can aim, good for you. Still, this doesn't make up for the fact her gun was gutted. So now you're penalized for going full gun ivy.
>>559733581>lunar troon
>>559723523You scorn t2, save to max combo, and sit in the enemy face and fuck it so you can actually heal. Try to stand in the creep wave too for more heals. Also get fortitude. It's not a bait item on them and they use all stats and effects on it throughout the game
>>559744571mega cc + sustain
the worst part about this update is that all these bad players are going to be good at doorman simply because of how strong he is
>>559728843Every game will be M&K vs Doorman in a war of shutting down the other team's cancerous players
every game i've played today had my lane partner crashing out at me over voice or text chat.i wasn't even feeding or anything
>>559744247I can't really say i ever drank beer so bad it tasted like piss, or that i've ever tasted a glass of piss for that matter. But i see you have experience in drinking both
>>559744571unkillable and very good in fights
>>559743093Paige is a 9/10 in her selection screen but turns into a 3/10 rat woman ingame. Why is her face so fucking weird there?
>>559744571>tank initiator>active at the earliest stages of the matchIts either him or abrams (even though the patch nerfed abrams early game), victor takes too long to come online
Icefrog was def jamming to Hotel California when he was in the process of designing Doorman
>>559744753just tell them if they dont calm down their wife's boyfriend might find out they are up past curfew
>>559744571He immediately puts you into the most god awful game of rock paper scissors imaginable as soon as he is in melee range. Plus all the other things.
>werewolf character>gut her werewolf formYes Yoshi, thank you. I didn't want to play a werewolf on a werewolf character anyway
Egg is the absolutely perfect item for me, alongside Trophy Collector. I tend to tunnel vision on getting kills and usually end up dying for it so having another item that just farms for me while im dead is very good. Now I NEVER have to feel bad about dying for a trophy stack
>zoomer team lets their ADHD take over again as they int into floorchads
how it feels to play against victor rem
How do you nerf Doorman now? Hard mode: goal is to make him balanced, not just break his legs into unplayability
>>559744753>comm banned>teammate sucks ass>pause to bm her>add her to talk shit>forget about it>she accepts a few hours later and we click before i have a chance to talk shit>ends up being a really hot transfem girl with a huge ass and super pretty face>watch the entirety of the wire together>wants to pay for my flight to see herthe best relationships are made in the most weird ways
there are too many damage items that have free health and defensive stats baked into them
>>559742343>>559742653>modding is cancerWrongOnly the QoL/cheating mods are cancer, the rest are fine.>annoying to look at all the troon-y mods and drama relating to themclose the tab, retard
>point blank apparently is based off the goo punch location rather than viscious i wish the game told you that, there's a lot of cryptic shit in this game
>>559745587point blank does not enhance melee damage
Im fucking sick of all these flavor of the month faggots taking my DoormanYou didnt stay with him while he was at his worst, you dont deserve him when he's at his slightly better
how has doorman not been disabled via hotfix yet lol
its fine that goo man can go spirit fist build sure whateverwhy the fuck does he get five hundred charges and why is the cooldown between casts like half a fucking second
>>559745645apparently it does enhance goo punch damage which is why viscous built it in NS just now, its based off the goo punch distance to player so clearly it works
i'm gonna be honest doorman is far less of an issue compared to calico
>>559745731victor is 10x worse your opinion is gaytarded
>>559745645melee damage is gun damage anon
>>559745760This
>Removed 40% of his weapon damage>Fire Scarabs cooldown fucking quadrupled>Then increased by another 20s>Then a delay between each scarab was added (no more spellslinger for you, chud!)>THEN their charges were halved>Tornado lift all but removed>Tornado cooldown upgrade halved>Tornado bullet evasion upgrade removed>Djinn's Mark cooldown increased by fucking 33%>The slow that was already godawful was changed to decay over its 0.5s duration or some reason>Traveler now lets you move during its channel to cover up the fact they never fixed the camera breaking since Old Gods New Blood>Except it's not actually useful because the ability cancels on damage like it's fucking League of Legends recall>The most important upgrade on his ult, unstoppable, was removed entirely and replaced with a cooldown reduction he used to get on his first upgradeGenuinely what was the fucking vision here?
>>559734629Honestly, i kinda like the current look of both the boss and neuturals.Some people claim they are too sci-fi looking, but with the black ink-y colors they fit as well as anything else does, i would just improve on the already existing concept of a flesh heap with a giant eye, and making neutural camps look actually different from eachother.Also a big fun of the leaked plant in a pot design.What im more interested in tho is the reworked walkers and guardians for both sides. I really enjoy the current ones but they dont really fit the themes of either patron now, i rallly liked the leaked Hidden king one that makes it look like a huched electrical tower/transformator thingy, cant find it tho, if anyone can, help would be apreciated
>>559745743yeah I looked at the most recent patch to double check and it does work on melee ABILITIES but still not melee itself I believe. Opening rounds works too>>559745835didnt work before this patch my nigga, even though it should have>>559745760the top 4 gay heroes in descending rank are victor, calico, wraith, doorman
>Play Sinclair>Do nothing but steal Drifter ult and blind him as often as possible
>>559745731Because he's not overpowered youre just a retard thats bad at the game
I will keep playing Pocket / Viscous / Calico. I've earned it by playing them last patch.
>>559745645It always has and it's specifically mentioned in the patch notes to work on puddle punch now
>>559745476I played against Calico and Seven and now I don't feel like playing anymore. I just can't be bothered to queue up anoth
>>559745905fan*
>kelvin gets beam tier 2 >i now die if he touches me with it for 0.00002 seconds
>remember doormantards saying the bell is hard to hit?>play him due to the changes>easiest to hit ability ever with 1000 aoe lol how dishonest
I was hating Calico and Puddle Punch before it was cool.
you zone out for 5-10 minutes and then the enemy calico is up 10k after farming your teammates
>>559741413>Play Silver>Match just started>our haze immediately says I troll picked Silver and we will lose because she's a waste of slot>also adds no offense to me as a PlayerMAN
>>559734629Don't care about midboss, but the walkers and guardians are retarded and need to be king/mother spectors or fountains or some shit
>>559745476how it feels to play deadlock
>>559745689Mina....
>>559745942i bet you thought apollo was strong, too
>>559746108>change ability to be easier>its easierwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Why did they buff Abrams when he was already giganigger strong before patch?
bros, I've been fucking around with my friend on venator/haze and it's so hilarious how broken these characters are when you have decent aim/movement. I got the enemy team dizzy and almost did a 1v4, it was badass. arcanist IV btw kek
>>559745476thats not spongebob squarepants
>7 losses in a fucking rowKill me
>>559745760>doorman has to use ult build his spirit nuke and put you in the Contraption to one shot you>calico just has to walk up to you burst you and walks awayepiccc
>>559746372I feel the same way. I don't believe that anything I can do can impact a win. It's all just a coinflip. Hopelessness
>>559746372Are you a cute girl(or, failing that, a sufficiently feminine boy)? If you are you can just go on the official pisscord and grab any of the Eternus simps there to be your eboy carry
>>559746373There's nothing that anybody can do against her lane phase diving. It's fucking absurd. Her cooldowns are fucking ridiculous. Celeste or Apollo are nothing compared to Calico.
>>559746159My wife is a laughing stock...
>>559746372honestly I don't really feel anything when I lose in this game. I'm just so bad that my priority is getting better and having fun.
>>559745760Doorman is just a huge annoying faggot, I don't think I ever see him outright carry (unless it's a 10/0/20 in which case it's gg no matter what hero it is, excluding Holliday) it's just that his ult such an irritating nigger ability to deal withMeanwhile rapebeasts like Abrams are still rolling people over, and I have not seen a single underperforming Infernus since the patch
>>559746607You don't get better though, luck is the only thing that matters. Getting better does not matter.
is having multiple sources of antiheal worth it?
so does Haze play like Slark? where you're mostly just running around the enemy jungle invis ganking people, rather than hardcore farming?
>>559746772quite the opposite, you should farm as much as possible and basically only fight when your ult is up
for everyone that complains about victor this haze countered me pretty hardalthought i guess it says a lot that we almost won even with two 16 deaths
>>559746710depends on how much you really want the healing to stop flowing in, one item is usually adequate enough from each player.
>all these complaints about MUHHH OLD HEROES OP NOW NERF NERF NERF>meanwhile, me queueing up as Sinclair to rape an entire team and carry them to victory again
>>559746710>just get multiple sources of antiheal!>and divine barrier!>and slow and knockdown!>and silence!>and reactive barrier!>and debuff remover!>and rebuttal!>and counterspell!>and metal skin and disarm!>and bullet resilience!>and spellbreaker!>but guess what your enemy doesn't have to worry about any of that shit and they get to have functional builds instead!
>brawl victor with enhanced Improved Reach after the updatelol, lmao
>>559746896desu just get your core and then focus on counters
>>559746886sinclair can't 1v6 like other heroes can
Lashchads how over is it?
>>559747004>he thinks heroes can 1v6never reply to me again pisslow
>>559747118i'm eternus 2
>>559747015counterspellover
>>559745905Midboss being a giant nasty sewer monster that has taken over the central subway station works as a concept for me. The aboveground neuts need a lot of work though, if they end up with less than half the diversity in models and mechanics that the Dota 2 neuts do I'm going to be disappointed.
>>559746980Counters are a meme now with how snowbally this patch made the game. Literally just stack damage and pray
>gain the advantage in lane through skillful play>teammate decides to walk up to them with 10% hp left multiple times>advantage completely lostThey need to make jungling viable so I can solo lane already, like half my lane partners just throw the lane on their own and there's nothing I can do about it.
>>559747015Lash is finally a honest hero you don't have to feel bad about picking. Big win for you guys.
>>559747139yeah eternus 2 league of legends faggot
wraith can 1v6 o algo
>>559747289it's always low rankers that say "pisslow" so gg
>white calico is realhuge
>>559746980Yes your 6 slots of counters and 6 slots of core, meanwhile the counters are a fucking joke compared to the innate abilities built into these characters who get 6 slots of core, 5 slots of more rape, and 1 slot counter (which is really just an offensive ability)
>>559747341i'm better than you, on your knees dog
>>559747240jungling in dota/deadlock will never be a real role ever. icefrog has ptsd of lifestealers/legions plaguing the jungle at lvl 1 with quelling blade and sitting between trees while destorying campsthese mongoids never leave the jungle. ever. and icefrog layed down the hammer to fully kill off any of these parasitic playstyles
>>559746164what's wrong with guardians? it fits how they're braziers and troopers are candles
>>559742653>IF THEY K OW PRECISELY WHEN CAMPS WILL SPAWN THEY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE Be more skilled than they are at the game mechanics?
>>559747368real ugly
>>559734629Big sewer gator was my thought.
>>559747368link plz she's the ugliest (adjective) in the game
midboss = rat king
Is turret miku back or not really
>>559744136I drink my t friend's pee every night yet i'm e1.
>>559747476https://gamebanana.com/mods/658628
>>559747438nigger cope
>>559746832well look at your damage playing against a doorman that (((should))) be cucking you in fightsnow try to stop that with a vyper
>>559744354Witchmail is better on >Abrams>M&K>Calico>Kelvin
>>559747530LETSFUCKINGGO
>>559747519idk all i know is her ults melts me in 2 seconds
>>559743612>warpstone>not counterspell
>>559747712>letting Doorman get his ult backretard. retard. woop woop. retard.
>>559747530"Inspired by the idea of a Black Cat from Marvel"Yeah lets say that
>>559743838>the iron dome
>>559747792ai prompted looking model lmao
>>559747519Yes but you should just be spamming her ult instead
>>559745998>seven>fucking seven>when wraith exists in her current state
>>559743838>>559744258>Meanwhile M1 characters are still expected to consistently get headshots or their damage is halved
>>559747415Didn't Dota have heros like Chen/Enigma that were pretty much designed to jungle though? Think it's just a problem when carry-type characters do it but he'll still let supports like Rem have their jungle gimmick.
>>559747519Nope, turrets still suck and die instantly to everything, having 5 charges and an extra 2 on her wall doesn't matter if they die faster than you can place them down. It's her ult that got the huge buffs
>>559747415>>559747951He let Vyper JG last autumn, might still be viable idk though.
Wraith looks like so much fun but I'm trying to wait until they actually make her balanced before I play her.
>>559747530>tranny hater commenter using lain avatarshould be shot desu
>Le massive patch for the sake of it>Matchmaking has been unchanged for years>still a complete dogshitThey just actively refuse to actually work on the game
>>559747437or just ban cheats
nigfernus, nigger ginger, blue nigger, wraith nigger, cat nigger, sand nigger. It's all so fuciing tiresome. This game is quickly becoming a joke even faster after each patch.
I hate how bad Viscous looks graphically. Mid 2010's console game fluid
>>559747951people who use chen as a jugnler example is wrong, since dota 1 and ti 1, puppey has strictly played him a support and shown icefrog how this type of support playstyle should weave between helping your lane and getting your farm from jungle. chen is always in lane or in your face.
>>559748054>VyperVENO FUCKTen years and I still get them confused for ???? reasons
>>559725615>Rem is taller than KrillI... don't know how I feel about this
longest match i ever hadwas pretty close, but we ended up losing to a super haze by the end
>>559748191>I COOOOOON'T ADOOOOOOOPTAHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME ICEFRAUD!!
>>559748204
>>559725615>Yam almost as tall as abrams due to forehead
>>559748054>>559748217he hasnt been personally directing dota for about 8 years. he might come in with a few ideas of his own from time to time over these years but its been admitted he isn't doing the changes.
>>559746159>>559746598She's completely homeless now...
>>559747423They look goofy standing in the middle of the road. They should look like stationary structures without legs. They could keep the same basic design but make them rooted down and thematic to the patron whose side they're on
>>559747415level 1 ursa jungle was my jam
>>559748116fixing the game doesn't bring in numbers, keychain dangling with fancy new heroes and abilities does
>>559747368>Read the comments>People are complainingKill these niggas already.
>>559748349I'll adapt to another game at this rate anon, I might still come back sometimes to play a few games but I don't think I can have much fun in this game. But I'm sure you can have your fun when you play these characters, so you adapted to it just fine of course.
>>559748502you don't play the game, why are you here
>dogshit patch>dogshit matchmaking>dogshit metagameebin I geuss we wait.
>>559748750Just because I'm not playing the game right now doesn't mean I'm not playing it, anon, no need to be silly
if youre a carry hero and can't kill the Ancient/Large camps at minute 10, reconsider your build.
Is this the worst state Deadlock has ever been in? How do you fuck up this hard with just one patch?
Wait, does Egg increase the damage you TAKE or lower the damage you DEAL
>>559747530>>559748662the mods are probably seething because they can't remove it without admitting their bias due to nigger celeste mods being allowed to exist kek
These cards remind me of Quas Wex Exort
pocket players will fight a victor and not go full ult build
>>559725615People talk about the characters that need remodels but nobody ever brings up Krill?What the fuck even is he? At least with Vyper her model is atrocious but you know she's a snake woman but Krill? Who the fuck even knows?
Ran into a Viscous using a cheat to put goo punches dead center every time even from out of LOS.>>559748926It could be worse, we could have no functional antich- oh hahahahah see what I wrote above.
>>559748940Lower damage you deal. It's an item you buy on stunbots that don't care about their damage, but you already know there's people griefing with it by getting it first item to hold it until the 30 min buffs.
why does literally no one play her?
>>559748926you clearly did not play with the shadow weave veil walker wraith spam meta back in 2024, she was guaranteed to win every 1v1 and never be punished
gutting dynamos 1 really fucked with me, I keep missing all the time now, it was a well deserved nerd but I wish my retarded brain got the fucking memo already
people will actually take your doomposts seriously if you post your actual profile W/L stats alongside them, but i know you're too pussy to do so
>>559748926clearly you never played 4 lanes
>>559749179I do
damn we lost to vyper backdoorunlucky
>>559749340I actually did play when 4 lanes were in the game and I hated the way that souls worked so much that it made me drop the game.>>559749273Cool, now we instead have the W+M1 Wraith meta alongside Doorman getting to spam bells that chunk you for 600+ spirit damage every 2 seconds.>>559749143I encountered a Haze/Vindicta duo lane where both were aimbotting, it was really obvious because their game sense was atrocious and they still managed to get picked off several times during the game. We still lost because you can't really lose if you're cheating that hard.
>>559749128making models is difficult. on top of getting everything else to work. then problems pop or plans get changed. these guys are literally manifesting heroes in real time, it's quite a bit of work.
>>559749514modders already made a VU for holliday prob within weeks
>>559749276I don't think that it was a well-deserved nerf with how easy and free it is to win lane as Doorman, you can just spam bells forever and they are guaranteed to hit.>>559749391How do you manage to lose with Wraith AND Doorman?
>23 kills chinksect landing pixel perfect goo punches without LOS, through veils
>>559749610i just said niggavyper backdoorwe were having a really fun teamfight when i suddenly noticed the defeat screenwild
>>559749179Because currently she plays in a manner completely antithetical to how her kit reads. How it should be:>Spirit nuker that pays for increased power by self-damaging, with a couple sustain tools built in, basically burst damage version of VictorHow it actually plays:>Gun DPS spirit tank hard carryAnd the way we arrived here is just fucking baffling and seems to have occurred pretty much entirely on the back of shitty players having bad feels about not being able to get out of the way of telegraphed spirit damage source that kills her faster than it kills opponents without heavy itemization, hence why nobody builds that as her primary damage source anymore when she can just fucking shoot you to death.
>People are actually banning doorman now when cardnigress exists in her current stateroflmao
>feeding friend doesn't understand the importance of the urn>gets mad whenever we try to run it because only kills matter
>>559737623Is he not?
ivy feels really good to play but i didn't really have a build for her in mind
What do I do as doorman after lane phase
>>559749610>>559749696doorman didn't really do anything tho desu>>559749704yeah wraith is absolutely disgusting rn>>559749714in low elo its way too coinflip, the amount of times the enemies melee the carrier just before it lands, really not a fan of it just cause of that, unless we're pushed to their base and its literally free
>>559749796steal sinners, door out if caughtgank overextenders with ultclick ultult ult ultnuke them with BELLS
>>559749704Wraith can just be hunted early in the match or disarmedDoorman is very annoying to lane against, because his doorbells take like a third of your health offAnd thats without even mentioning his roided out ult
>>559749704You only get one ban, and both characters are equally obnoxious to play against. They absolutely fucked up with this patch when people are all begging for more bans or a draft mode to not have to play against these braindead OP heroes.
>>559749346based hag god
>>559749940>disarmedlol
>>559749704He's easily the most miserable person to be in lane against
As of currently only Street Brawl is worth playing. The "main" mode is completely busted
>>559748252>58 minutes and 40 secondsI would rather not play anything
>>559750068>calico>wraith>bebop>mcginnisthey're all equally niggerhitler to lane against
*farts in your lane*
just had the worst game of my life>drifter constantly feeding by solo pushing lanes>drifter also jungles constantly, never ults in teamfights>doorman, mcginnis, and graves split pushing, never teamfighting even at 50 minutes>huge souls lead but every fight is hard as fuck because its a 3v5/3v6>only win because enemy team is more retarded than us
>have to ban calico>but then i can't ban victor, wraith or doormanbros...
i can smell the ozone already
>>559750256Just goes to show how important macro is
>>559750328>>559750328
>>559749796Build fortitude and enduring speed after your opener damage items. Be ever present on the map, harassing jungle, taking sinners and split pushing while never having to go back to base and running at Mach 10. Throw 4 bells on the walker BEFORE the wave shows up, and as soon as it loses protection, blow them all up for 2k damage instantly and fuck off (you can also backdoor through protection this way safely, but slowly). Be as annoying as humanly possible to force 3 people to gank you to make space, because with your kit, any less than 3 is zero threat to your gigachad playstyle. Teamfight when applicable and win the game
>>559750224kill yourself autist
>>559737668I don't even need to open the game to know its not the highest damage nuke, especially at the start
>>559749698I like the fact you can lean into spirit or gun. Soul Exchange's origin is Terrorblade's Sunder, and Terrorblade is a full on autoattack carry with a full kit that more or less supports that using illusory copies of himself without the gimmick of lowering his own health, he just fights it out until he reaches low HP and then Sunders. The issue is Geist is an amalgam of Terrorblade's Sunder, Death Prophet's Spirit Siphon (Life Drain), Batrider's Sticky Napalm (Malice) and a generic but powerful AOE bomb.
>>559749179built for catching cum
>>559746674>it's just that his ult such an irritating nigger ability to deal withalmost as if its the whole point of it
>>559746674Very in character for Doorman
>>559750686I'd like to see essence bomb get reworked to have user input on the self-damage. Hold the ability button to charge it, which dramatically increases either the flat damage or the spirit scaling, but also increases how much health she pays for it, depending on how long she charges it. Or maybe the charging act is just a continual health drain as long as you hold it, though it reaches a cap on the output increase so just walking around doing that is just killing you for no gain past a certain point.
Game is fun, but there are some obviously braindead broken characters.
>>559724031>doing some sinners on the side>suddenly a silent cat runs up to me>nukes me and mugs my wallet>turns back into a cat and runs off in less than 5 secondsCompetent Calico is scariest hero in the game because nowhere is safe from cat jumpscare and even if you catch her she's gonna turn invincible and fly away before turning into a cat and disappearing.
>>559740692the banned women of valve unoriginality
>>559744896Her forehead is too protruding, her lips are in a perpetual weird pout, and her posture is weird.If you make some adjustments she's actually fire. I'm not a fan of her hairstyle either but it gives her a messy/cute charm.
>>559740692no niggers allowed.
>>559750149Mcginnis isn't the worst, UNLESS, you get hit with a really nasty wall and get rapedOnce she has ult though and she has enough of a brain to realize ult is OP now, yeah, she'll just melt you
