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>Old Deep Water Dies, by Rising Tide It is Denied
https://youtu.be/AtoOV6q7LnU - Version Trailer
https://youtu.be/eKTskrTBZxU - Dev Log Stream

>Official Website
https://endfield.gryphline.com/en-us
>Official EN X - News
https://x.com/AKEndfield
>DEV Comm - Developer Updates
https://endfield.gryphline.com/en-us/news/3846

>Yvonne PVs
https://youtu.be/1mTQW3rAMXc
https://youtu.be/rDmr6zDPEaw
https://youtu.be/xqSHlK8kAKI

>Chartered Headhunting Schedule
February 24th to March 12th Hues of Passion, Yvonne
March 12th to March 29th River's Daughter, Tangtang
March 29th to April 14th Wolf Pearl, Rossi

>Reward Codes
ENDFIELDGIFT
ENDFIELD4PC

>Twitch Drops
https://endfield.gryphline.com/special/third-party-binding?channel=twitch

>Wikis
https://wiki.skport.com/endfield (Official)
https://perlica.moe
https://warfarin.wiki/en
https://endfield.wiki.gg/
>Blueprint Guides
https://talospioneers.com/en
>Stickers
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13KH3L6QPIKkVH7pBddv4uxwmwJsnOtkl
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OuVtjv1k-9c3M6n7d4PX3CGG5bkwH04a
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AStB8bzFk3lSwMwczWPkFYCBrZe0vHOg
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yS0lqUhxf8tBRtpDFfCU1y16IS2sSeF7
>Fri/end/s
Submit your info, /end/min:
https://forms.gle/Fo7BhZMKaKqiWyL19
View other /end/mins:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YtxiDss0hgEQhLlZgpfzyGrJrzUcqDzOS9T6IH-BiVc/edit?usp=sharing
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Stinky thread
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>>559739974
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Why isn't there a gacha where one of the main girls is maliscious/viscious to everyone but soft for (you)
What are the chances we get unhinged pussy
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saving for Rossi
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Gilberta is the only character I rolled for. I invested in Ember when everyone says she was shit. I honestly think most of you just parrot youtube personalities. Just think for yourself.
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>>559740363
>Gilberta is the only character I rolled for
good
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>>559740015
Sex now
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how does soup even know chen? Chen was a wuling student and top at sword class before she left for endfield but soup was adopted since birth in chinpo stockade and was never a student
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Why do people defend this?

Yeah!!! I want time limited rolls!!!!!!
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Flatministrator
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Sex with pink women
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>>559739657
>>559739512
Nah bro you give them 3 a day, because that's already 20%.
In 5 days you get to 100%.
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>the ass the saved endfield
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>>559740843
I prefer sex with blue woman
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I wish ziplines had an option that lets you like go in reverse from whatever default path you said, it would make deliveries a million times comfier
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>>559740915
I love this perro
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>>559740727
I would defend this if they gave us a lot of rolls i.e "They are limited so they can stuff you with more rolls without shooting themselves in the foot" but it's not like we're eating good on that front

I fucking hate this tug of war between the devs and the players
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>>559740727
>Character gets released
>YOU HAVE to wait 1 week to not waste 5 limited pulls
> after 1 week, Whales finding out that the new Character gives you Depression, STD & Testicle Cancer and yeah, its makes no damage at all.
>skip the character, pulls saved

what is this Strategy called?
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>>559740843
Yvonne is submissive in bed
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>>559741152
this tug of war is always going to be present in any Gacha game. because Gachas are jewish in nature. Hypergrift is just a bit more jewy than than the competition however.
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>>559740906
hey retard since you haven't figured this out yet
you only see gifting record when you have 200% on a character
all of my characters are 200%
everyone knows you are wrong and are laughing at you
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>>559741191
If they were universal rolls that didn't expire it wouldn't even be an issue, people can blow their load asap and not be punished for it. Right now you're still waiting a week before you actually commit to pulling even if you know you want them. It's so anti-climatic and the hype of the new character has long since worn off while waiting for your 4 rolls..
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>>559738417
>>559741550
I am now. lmao retard.
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>>559740727
the past thread had doomposters crying about 1.1 not having those
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>I have to log in to the game in order to get some rolls? HOW DARE THEY?!
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>does not present proof
>post result of forcefeeding the wrong items
Yeah no. You're retarded but since you reached 200 anyway, whatever.
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>>559741768
1.1 has 70 pulls so it would have been better if it didnt have them
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>>559741580
gives me time to see all the retards going "META, SKIP, META, SKIP" and then decide if i want to dump 100 rolls for the character
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>>559740727
That patch is so DoA.
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>>559740906
i have multiple characters at 100 and 200, the % you get past 100 drops from 20 to 5 per 3 gifts my retardbro
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How long till the patch? I play 5 fucking gachas and none of them has content at the moment...
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>>559741887
Wouldn't 1.1 have 50 pulls technically then?

>10 pulls exclusive to tangtang banner
>10 pulls exclusive to rossi banner
If you were saving for someone like zhuang then you're only getting 50 pulls in 1.1 for that?

That's so unbelievably dogshit man
Imagine when they start rerunning old banners too. That's 10 pulls exclusive to a banner on someone you possibly already have... like wtf..
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>559742052
Yeah no, I caught you lying the first time and I posted proof.
You can keep your retarded misinfo to yourself.
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>>559741353
erm sir in my limbus company we basically don't pull ever and only save our lunashi balls for nostalgia bait event that rolls around every 4 months

At first I was enamored with how often they sent out surveys and asked for feedback and I was happy to be involved in game's direction, but now I resent this status quo.
Even when trying to pose themselves as willing to cater to your tastes and improve the game with your feedback they won't take step back on their jewy practices.
What a sad state of affairs
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>>559742112
it has 50 pulls if you skip both
Im pulling tangtang so its 60
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>>559740727
Just roll whatever. Just think of those shitty 5 rolls as Arsenal tickets because 5 rolls (expiring) is fucking nothing for a 120 for guaranteed rolls when they already barely give us shit
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>All patches have unlimited rolls
>Somehow retards keep talking about 50/70
If you don't understand something this simple gacha games aren't for you.
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>>559741887
>>559742112
its 80 without the limited pulls, what is urgent recruit? its 100 with it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zGNuQ53R7c190RG40dHxcHv8tJuT3cBaclm8CjI-luY
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>>559741191
>what is this Strategy called?
Idiocy
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>>559742453
thats the ones we know so far, theres going to be ~40 more I assume
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>>559739915
yeah, we're just capped on xiranite though so the only other place to squeeze batteries from are these dumb crates

the drops are alright, would be better if I knew exactly where they all are though, would make for a decent daily loop
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>>559741845
>>559742161
>he's still digging this hole
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>>559741773
I want to see her feet
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>>559742453
Untick aic quota exchange anon. That's 5 of the tangtang/rossi rolls too. Login expiring HH permits is the other 5

We have 10 x 2 expiring rolls each patch. Wouldn't be an issue if they were universal or if 120 carried over. but right now we lose 20 rolls a patch if you don't care about the banners. I thought skipping banners was meant to make you save rolls..?
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>>559741580
I think most of the Hypergryph's fuck ups can be chalked up to "this just feels bad". They should've thought more about the emotional experience of the user. I.e:
>if you get character early you don't get arsenal tickets
>if you win 50/50 you lose 120 pity
>if you lose 50/50 you have climb to 120
>5 banner rolls are stretched over entire week of logins
>many small event rewards make it feel like we're getting chump change
>labeling qingbo rising as a login event and giving entire TWO standard pulls after conceding that standard pulls were an issue
>sanity refills not refilling even one protocol space worth of energy

There are many pain points even when you get free shit/rolls, and basically every outcome is suboptimal in some way
I like the game, but it's a genuine issue
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>>559742731
their fuck ups are chalked up to jewish greed
they couldnt actually release the gacha systems like this when NTE is out in like 6 weeks
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But what does NGA think about the absolute state of Endfield?
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>>559740727
I like the game but I will never ever defend this
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>>559742731
Pretty much. All the systems in this game are about fomo and feeling bad. Roll to 30 and 60 for free 10 pull(s) but if you don't go to 120 it's all for naught!
The small amount of people that will fool for that fomo and swipe to reach 120 is minimal compare to how many will get annoyed and dislike the game due to the feel bad systems in it
Even whales packs aren't universal rolls either, it's the time limited ones for the banner. so during rerun banners whales will have absolutely nothing to buy as they already have that op maxed.
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>>559740727
It's 10 free roll every patch like in hoyo games (except genshin)
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sniper wives soon
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>>559743435
There are no whale packs
There is a singular 10 roller for how many, 10-15 buckaroos? Rest is origeometry
Game fucks over everyone lmao
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>>559743603
Except those pulls are permanent and these are not.
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>>559742731
>get punished if lucky
>get punished if unlucky
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>>559743717
Most people use those pulls in the featured banner of the patch anyway.
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>>559743884
No they wont because they know 120 doesnt carry over
so it's pointless
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>>559743884
Lmao this is a new level of cope.
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When will they add auto? Nobody wants to dump 1000 stamina at the end of the week.
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>>559743717
Additionally, since it's split between two banners, that means you can't do the convenient 10 roll option for these 10 pulls. You have to manually go and watch that that level pulling animation 10 times just for the game to give you antal 10 times because of the rates.
So adding that to the >>559742731 list of feels bad features.
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>>559743708
>15 quid for 10 (ten) pulls
>equivalent to 19.99 usd
yeah fuck off hypergryph
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It's out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUnLYD-1dc
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Where's my best friend Blaze
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Didn't Tectone basically invent weapon pity for Genshin back in the day? We need someone as big a CC like Saintontas to critic enough so they do something about it, at least some pity carry over.
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you are a peasant who gets excited for rolls.
We are chads who get excited for more gameplay and factory options
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>>559743695
I fuarking wish
>uses a crossbow
>when our current ranged operators use the Genshin floaty ball of magic, or dual-wield pistols
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>>559744614
You don't spend any money on this game so you don't matter.
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I really do have to hand it to them for how well they rip off Genshin. They take good, cast off features from that game and made them core.
Like scan. You easily forget you even have that ability in Genshin. The delivery quests are a slightly toned down version of an event Genshin had. Hoyo abandoned so many cool things and all we got were pokemon.
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>we are better than you because we thrive in misery
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>>559742731
You know the saying about "Optimizing the fun out of a game"?
This is basically the same thing except replace game with gacha (gambling).
All the rules and obfuscation that is suppose to make it hard for people to note how much they spend in order to boost sales ironically made spending frustrating to deal with and reduced how much some people would be willing to spend.
>Inb4 gacha/gambling
People gamble because it makes them feel good, not much different from games except being able to sink hundreds into it. Like how difficult and/or niche games have less appeal, obtuse gambling rules makes people less likely to spend.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HDK_YjyoOCc
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>>559742731
yeah, ive been saying that from the get go, its technically less jewish than hoyo/kuro, but it feels and looks much much worse. It would all be solved if they had something like trickal or nikke where they give you 1 ticket every time you use a roll, and you can trade those tickets for the banner unit at any given time.
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>>559744468
fuck you mean "tectone" invented weapon pity? the chinese have been floating that idea on NGA since 1.1, two version before spear of homa
>but he rolled and failed to get the spear a lot on youtube
nigga, the chinese whales rolled enough time to fill one and a half page of skyward atlas in inventory, tectone is nothing compared to chinese whales
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>>559744303
but it's great value, anon
you'd be stupid not to buy it
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>>559742731
it's not a fuck up, it's intentional
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>>559744047
These games hate basic QOL improvements
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>>559744047
HG hates QoL
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Lifeng Love
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>>559744047
>Adds auto
>It just makes your operator do auto attacks and auto skill
>Game just devolves to auto battler but still have to make you wait and consume sanity one by one anyway
Imagine
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Shu love
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>>559744047
>wahwah they're making me play the game once a week
Nigga if you're too stupid to figure out how to oneshot a protocol space pack that's on you
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>>559745240
Fuck off, give Chen back you fuckboi
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next update will make everyone doing sanity grind entering the map with full HP and ultimate bar
your party aren't a shitter one that cannot kill 4 enemies in single burst right? :^)
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>>559744047
This is what happens if you don't roll gilberta
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>>559744778
the 120 pity not carrying over between banners feels like dogshit and turns people off, period

that's the first thing that needs to be addressed if this game's gacha wants to stop sucking ass
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>>559744303
>>559744889
Endfield packs are such ass

>$20 in endfield is 10 rolls
>$25 in AK is 22 rolls
>$30 in AK is 27 rolls+buncha material shit
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>>559742453
Seems to track with the other one I found, its around 63 limited, 20 of them being time limited (which is misleading cause if you save you wont have enough to buy the five in shop), and then 11 standards.
This includes survey rewards as well so they're really scraping the barrel in terms of trying to find all the pulls available.
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>>559745480
Fuck Perlica
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>>559745772
AK is a 2D gacha.
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>>559745772
ofc I forgot the image showing it
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do people really play this game on mobile? does /end/ play on mobile? be honest
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>>559745772
Isn't the pity in AK set at 200?
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>>559744303
>15 quid
what african currency is this shit
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>>559746004
Pakistani Kingdom of England, dear sir
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>>559745887
>60 pulls
>tangtang and rossi somehow need to carry the game until mid april
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I want every girl(female) for free.
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>>559745996
It's more around 150-170. or 300 on the special anniversary banners (who knows we might get those too one day)
so with almost 2x the rolls per usd even with the pity difference being higher the efficiency is considerably worse for endfield
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>>559746201
>2 banners need to carry a gacha for [a little over a month]
??? what sort of lightning fast gachas are you playing
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>>559746396
I need to lay eggs.
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>>559746396
"Touch my tail? No."
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We haven't even encountered male banners yet. That's going to have you literally wasting your free rolls so they don't eat your pity and ruin your life.
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>>559740727
Remember that this is included in the 40 to 50 pulls calculation for 1.1 rewards. Out of the 40-50 pulls, 20 of them are limited to specific banners and will expire at the end of the patch if not used.
So you effectively only get 30 pulls per patch.
Anyone who defends a guarantee 120 6* every half a year are cucks
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>>559745887
>43 pulls for 1.1
jesus christ. why did noobs complain about having no standard pulls in the survey instead of this. we nhave no pulls PERIOD
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velocitous looks so much better on her
i think i will switch
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>>559745973
just me
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>>559746647
why
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>>559746564
Because we didn't have an update patch so far?
People will voice it in the next 4 surveys they will send during 1.1 while shit slurpers will defend it as usual.
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>>559746671
my pc can't run it
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>>559746201
1.1 feels like a nothingburger
I'd be infinitely more excited if we were getting fangyi or even mi fu instead of a second cryo gun user in a row

downright depressing that new facilities are what I'm looking forward to the most
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>>559746761
oh my bad then
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>>559746814
>1.1 feels like a nothingburger
The thing I'm most excited for this patch is hopefully a bigger weekly income of wuling tickets so I don't feel the need to do 3 wuling deliveries every day.
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>>559746761
It runs on steam deck so im sure even some old pc can run it
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>>559746564
is 63 pulls without the 20 limited, so 83 pulls if you have enough to buy the shop. However I think on average you need to pull 50ish pulls per banner to have enough to get the 5 tickets reliably. So I think the devs count the 'free' 20 pulls you get from rolling at 30/60 per banner as well when calculating the final pull income.
They really expect the average player to pull to 60 every limited.
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>>559746736
>Because we didn't have an update patch so far?
People did the math weeks ago about how poor the daily and weekly activities are for pulls. Then we started getting events and those barely had any pulls to carry the weight..
With most the events being the same ones from before and them not even mentioning any buffs it's just gonna prove how bad it is. At least there will be complaints in 1.1 because it will be far more apparent than before. Here's hoping it's not too late for them to adjust it by 1.2 though
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Are we sure we can keep even half of the playerbase now through 1.1? Most of my friends has dropped the game and are more excited to play slay the spire 2. They've been playing it for 3 nights in a row with the new co-op mode and none of them have logged into endfield for a week. Three of them have bought the monthlies and still didn't log in cause "you get stamina that are fomoed to use" so they just stopped until they have more than enough time to get in game.
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>>559746564
there's no use getting upset about this until the patch launches and the pull income is confirmed
if it is true it will trigger a shitposting apocalypse
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even if they gave you 240 pulls every patch you would still be crying that they don't give you enoug h pulls
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>>559746459
>>559746478
And how would you trigger her voicelines?
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>>559746917
>They really expect the average player to pull to 60 every limited.
Honestly a lot of people would... IF PITY CARRIED OVER. A lot of people would try their luck with the 50/50 coin flip every other banner
It feels like the devs built everything up then were told to disable pity carrying over last minute. All these systems revolve around pity carrying over yet it doesnt. Arsenal tickets, limited login/aic quota HH, free 10 pulls for doing 30 and 60
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>>559747109
At least give us one guarantee every patch like other 3D gacha games do? Wuwa gives 200, genshin gives 150, HSR and ZZZ gives 180. What does endfield get? 45.
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>>559746201
Could be worse. If it was Mi Fu the game would fucking die.
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>>559747109
SLUUUUUUUUUUUUURP!
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Pay up, gwailo
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>>559745928
And a dollar is a dollar.
And fake currency is still fake currency.
And Chinese are just yellow jews.
Are we just stating the obvious?
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>>559747271
>Rossi is that high
Pedophiles will save this game. They should add more children to the game to save it from eos
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>>559747271
Soupsoup is first though.
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>>559746986
current cope is exploration and other permanent content will carry it like it did 1.0
I can't decipher the rune picture but it seems to be dailies/weeklies and events?
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>>559747271
Way more pedophiles then I would have thought.
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>>559747045
I do that too
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>>559740915
What is Endfield being saved from?
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>>559747494
This >>559745887 one here includes exploration, its estimating 2330 for the chests and robot fixing stuff in the overworld, 12 yellow origniums from collecting the orbs and all the other stuff from increasing wuling investigation level is there too.
>>559747218
I'm hoping they lose enough users to probably pick up the hint that they need to optimize the pulling experience by the first anniversary, not sure if its too late by that point.
Reminds me of ZZZ doing several relaunches.
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>>559747456
Lolipedos don't have money as proven by countless loli banners in various gacha with zzz being the latest example.
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>>559747494
1.0 had 8 regions
1.1 has 1
lol
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>>559747109
So you cocksuckers have just resorted to blatantly lying now. Not a good look senpai.
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>just pressed whatever reply and fucked up hartmann's profile data file
dang it
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>game refuses to give me muscle mommy
this is some bullshit of the highest caliber
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>>559748071
your free selector?
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>>559747752
>includes exploration
aiieee it's over, mail event save us
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>>559747045
Gachas aren't MMOs the sooner you learn that the better off you will be. There isn't infinite repeatable or grinding content in gachas. And as much as Endfield separates itself, or tries to, it will still fall victim to the same thing that all live service and patch oriented gachas do. Which is on patch surges and off patch wanes. Endfield has been on a "wane" since week 1 because some people sprinted through the content. People either completed everything, were done playing the game, or had moved on after they had their fill. This is the wane. And you will see a surge of people preparing for and coming back to 1.1. It's a subtle pendulum until it settles around a number far lower than the initial 1.0 surge and will spike up and down depending on marketing, characters, or interest in the game.
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>>559748172
used it for pog
then proceeded to lose a 50/50 to pog so now he's p1...
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>>559748430
lmao
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>>559748430
Guess you learned your lesson then huh?
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>>559748430
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>>559748430
You asked for pog, you get the pog. Stop complaining

t. hypergrift
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>>559740727
I wouldn't really care if this went away, but I also don't get the fuss about it. Just... Wait a week to start rolling? It's a basic exercise in patience. Or don't, it's only four rolls out of your ten freebies - the odds of those rolls mattering for anything but building pity is miniscule.
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>>559745240
lifeng boypussy
lifeng mpreg
>>559745426
threesome with lifeng and chen
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>>559747752
>by the first anniversary
It needs to be fixed before 1.3 or it's genuinely too late. The sooner they fix it the more players that'll stick around. It's easier to keep players in your game than it is to make them return after they've quit
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>>559747885
there are 2 regions, there are 6 sub-areas in V4 and 2 in Wuling
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>>559749036
wonder if there will be any follow ups and if theres any differences between your choice in the end
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>>559748884
>Wait a week to start rolling?
That isn't the problem
The issue people have with it, is thats 10 pulls EXCLUSIVE to banners. +10 more if you bought the others with aic quota
If you don't care for tangtang or rossi, those pulls are essentially pointless for you. That's 20 pulls each patch you're missing out on if you don't happen to care about the current rate up
This is primarily due to your 120 pity progress not carrying over, because it resets each banner. Having banner exclusive freebies like this is toxic, because it will reset your progress from the freebies each time
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>>559742731
Honestly, this game has been a pretty big lesson for me in "Look at the facts, not how it feels". Because yeah, the game FELT pretty stingy to me in the first week or so... And then I actually looked at how many oreos I had. I chalked it up to having burned through the content quickly, then looked at my oreos again a couple of weeks later and realized... Yeah, there really ARE plenty of rolls just lying around everywhere. It just doesn't feel like it, because pretty much everything except completing story missions is crumbs - but they offer enough crumbs to fill a bakery.
I don't think they should change anything, but I am curious as to how this will influence the long-term psychology of their player base...
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still thinking about that one quest that pulled “it was just a dream” unironically, i hope it mindrapes some autist in like 5 years when we have much more story to chew on and he comes to the conclusion that some major story beat also happened in that dream and his comprehension of the story gets completely upended. it would be SO fucking funny
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>>559743954
>>559744020
If you get the banner 6star before the 120 guarantee point, then any free tickets you used along the way made a difference in the amount of your own rolls you had to spend.
In the worst case, this will happen 50% of the time. If you're building pity sensibly and going into banners at the ~35/80 roll point, you get to flip the 50/50 twice before reaching 120. There is a 75% chance you will get the banner 6star before guarantee in this case.

Basically it's a skill issue. More often than not, all these free tickets are lowering the amount of rolls you need to do.
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>>559749385
>My free thing isn't exactly what I want!
Okay
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>>559749567
Then can all the pull calculator people stop including those 20 pulls as part of the patch?
>See guys the patch has plenty of pulls look there's 80 (ignore that 20 of those are pulls for characters you may not like hehe)

People would have autism if you included standard rolls as part of your pulls per patch, so why are banner exclusive rolls allowed to be included lol
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>>559747796
>except Pricunny and Cunny Archives
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>>559742731
>if you lose 50/50 you have climb to 120
The absolute worst thing in the game is hitting the 120 very deep (but not quite at) the 80 pity, like 75/80 or something. And then when the guarantee triggers it double dips and wipes out 70+ rolls on progress on the 80 pity.

If you're rolling on an upcoming banner and you know your 80 pity is in that danger zone, 9/10 times it's better to burn another 5-10 pulls on purpose on the current banner just to offset it enough that you're safe in that scenario.
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>>559749951
THIS CONTENT CREATOR IS HURTING THE FEELING OF THE CHINESE PEOPLE
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>>559747796
It's probably going to be even harsher here, when they get a bunch of survey results saying "I didn't pull her because I wasn't interested in lolis" - actual concrete feedback from their players saying "I don't want this" will mark this as the last loli banner we get...
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>>559749729
>so why are banner exclusive rolls allowed to be included?
Because the only thing that matters is the current banner/the banner you are waiting for and the pulls that appears for that banner (which includes the time limited pulls). You should be glad it isn't like in Granblue where the free 5 x10 pulls during anniversary expires under 24hrs.
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Good evening, Slop Soldiers. :)))
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>>559749562
>Actually defending those by saying this

You realize you can't even buy the extra 5+5 pulls per patch without doing roughly 50 pulls on average per patch. AIC quota dries up incredibly fast, and the 5 login+5 quota pulls don't refund themselves for the next set. It would take you 21 weeks to login welfare to get to your 35/80 roll point
Do you know how unbelievably shitty this system feels when your only defense is if you wait 21 weeks you MIGHT BE able to get another 6* appear before you have to 120 pity. Yay I get to lose TWO 6* coinflips then 120 pity wahooo
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>>559749519
the premise for that quest was so fucking weird
>endmin suddenly has a case of extremely vivid daydreaming
I'll just chalk it up to some originium bullshit...
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All in on Rossi (figuratively and literally)
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https://youtu.be/5IUnLYD-1dc?si=hze7QtGKPEr7urx8
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>>559750631
Sex with wolf child
Make more wolf pups
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>>559750392
I didn't mention anything about AIC quota, I'm talking about the 5 free tickets you get from each banner's login event.
Any time you win the 50/50 on a banner, those tickets mean you spent 5 less of your own pulls because the 80 pity does carry over and they contributed to your progress there for free. It's an fact that this will happen 50-75% of the time.

The system feeling bad emotionally because they're not 100% guaranteed to save you rolls is one thing, but valuing them as zero is also objectively false.
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>>559750841
what does endmin smell like?
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>>559750631
I need the full uncensored version NOW
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>>559749385
People were responding to the way that it was spaced out, so I'd assumed that was the primary complaint in this case.
For the exclusive part, well, it's the same in Arknights, and the only rolls I'll ever be getting on most banners. I enjoy having a taste of most banners, but if I was allowed to keep them for a guarantee... I would. Except I'd be having less fun doing things the way I wanted. Besides, they wouldn't give us 10 more pulls per banner if they changed it - we'd be getting 5 or less as they reduced the overall number of pulls they gave in response, since those pulls would be more valuable than these purpose-limited ones.
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>>559751078
Rock
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>>559751078
If Fendmin, gugugaga baby formula milk

If Mendmin, baby batter and pheromones
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>>559750203
>/the banner you are waiting for
ok i am waiting for fangyi how do these free pulls on tangtang and rossi help me?

0 progress to 120 fangyi guarantee
unless i get multiple 5*s then I am getting 260 aic quota. this is enough to buy 4 limited tickets for another 20 aic quota. none of this actually helps me get fangyi either
i also get 840 arsenal tickets. which is around 4 pulls on the weapon banner. that at least helps me get fangyi weapon

>you should be glad it..
it's worse than the vast majority of gachas, just because you brought up one that is somehow worse doesn't make it any better.
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>>559749519
There was definitely some protocol fuckery going on there, given the death of the Tianshi at the same time and the demonstrated connection between them with the audio file at the test farm.
It was weird as fuck, though, so good luck using it in any lore argument...
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>>559751185
>ok i am waiting for fangyi how do these free pulls on tangtang and rossi help me?
It doesn't, so YOU don't include them (only you).
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imagine how much food a whole Nacho family goes through on the daily basis. no wonder LR's family are farmers.
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>>559751078
metallic
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I only rolled for Grilbert because I saw the most future potential for her out of the three launch banners. You can hardly ever go wrong with supports. But I am really happy she enables this team so well. Estella was the first character I wanted to build when I started this game and only just now put it together. Ember is cool but she can be swapped out for anyone that makes the party better. Yvonne is awesome if you want to be more aggressive. I guess you could also swap out Endmin and focus on Yvonne but then you would have build Alesh but I wont do that.
Never skip supports in these types of games!
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>>559751078
amber
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>>559751152
In arknights case yeah the limited banners every 3 months do have tickets exclusive to them, but people don't calc those as your income. If your goal is to save for a specific banner then temporary tickets like that aren't included. Yet for some unforsaken reason idiots in this game include them. so 20 out of the 80 rolls given in a patch are helpful to you.

>>559751328
Then why do those retards advertise HEY THE GAME IS FINE LOOK AT THESE 80 ROLLS PER PATCH when in reality it's actually 60 because 20 are banner exclusive and almost as useless as standard rolls. It's not a me problem, it's a problem with the retards in this community not calculating pulls like every other community out there.
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>>559751441
>Never skip supports
Her battle skill is pretty convenient for rounding up mobs. Tangtang's time freeze might be good too.
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>>559751570
>Then why do those retards advertise HEY THE GAME IS FINE LOOK AT THESE 80 ROLLS PER PATCH
>PER PATCH
Try reading that again.
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>>559749951
Mass report campaigns are stupid. However, it does speak poorly of Google that a significant chunk of Youtube's revenue is made up of ragebaiting grifters like this, who do nothing but sow anger and hatred to drive engagement numbers. In a better world, yeah, Saintotas would have his account close for being an insufferable asshole who drowns out more productive discourse - as would, like, 3/5s of Youtube's ecelebs. That'll never happen, though, because it would look terrible for Google's metrics even if it would cause Youtube to instantly became more useable.
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>>559749951
People online should really just hide Sunho Yu's videos and move on with their lives.
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Lupostinkwife
Life is good
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man I rly want to take a shit rn should i go to the toilet or hold a lil longer
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>Only have 90 rolls saved for next patch
It's so ogre. I have to get Tang for my wife's team, I'm sorry Rossi. You'll just have to sit this one out...
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>>559751441
sorry she is getting replaced in her best team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pH24yucp1Q
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>>559751939
Buy and ad.
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>>559751939
She's replacing Perlica/Alesh lmao. What the fuck is this retard smoking?
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>>559751939
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Cringe voice acting. Sheeeesh.
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>>559751663
? what I said is exactly how they advertise it as. they all praise the game for the image on the left without explaining that 20 of those pulls are temporary and don't help you "save" for a banner you want
you complained about the grandblue anni expiring but are defending us getting 10 temporary pulls every 3 weeks? the fact it's happening consistently is more reason to complain than a 1 off fuck up like their anni
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>>559751939
I heard that this guy's a "good" "theorycrafter" with all the numbers and all. So I tried watching their videos but I can't just stand their voice. No offense to them. It honestly just sounds better if they would resort to use those AI-voices.
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>>559751570
I straight-up don't care what the bookkeepers do, so there's no reason to argue about it with me. Also, we have no idea what 1.1's income actually is - they're working entirely off of assumptions, and there's no reason to believe they're remotely credible until the patch is on our computers and properly datamined.
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>>559751939
is every vtuber a man with voice changer?
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>>559752165
why do people keep posting this retard?
he just makes up numbers for future income and then edits them later
it is meaningless
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>>559752237
Can you stop fucking thinking for a few minutes? How else are the jeets supposed to doompost?
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>>559752292
The best one is Forsen's alter ego.
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>>559752237
Anon.. what bookkeepers or whoever calcs doesn't affect my point. You missed the entire point
What matters is that 20 of our pulls are temporary and expire once the current banner is over. These do little to no help for you saving for a character you want

Any other gacha would lose their shit if 10 of their pulls just expired each banner unless they rolled NOW. Why the flying fuck are people here defending it???
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>>559752316
It's like people posting those tier lists. It doesn't matter that whatever they're posting is made up and makes zero sense, if it's got a clean looking infographic people will preach it eternally.
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>>559745973
I play mostly mobile and on pc sometimes. The game is very well optimized and the controls feel better on mobile unironically.
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>>559752316
I'm showing that 20 pulls are lost when you start discussing how the pulls are actually structured in a patch. That's all that image is >>559752409
The actual values of that spreadsheet are irrelevant, I'm just showing that the final count is +20 or -20 depending if you care about the patch banners or not
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>>559751078
she smells like sweat and her own cum
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>>559752316
spreadsheets are the ultimate authority to gachagamers
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>>559751939
this retard sounds like one of those retarded fatnecks on Vrchat that think they can genuinely intimidate people in VR.
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Huh, that was weird. I saw Alesh and Avywenna looking down on Talos II together aboard Dijiang. It looked like they were enjoying their conversation, but when I walked up to say "hi", Alesh got this weird look on his face before excusing himself, saying he had work to do elsewhere on the bridge...
Alesh has been acting a bit oddly for a while now, ever since I invited him to spend more time with me in the Control Room instead of bumming around the central ring... Am I smothering him too much, maybe? I just thought it unfortunate we rarely got to spend much time together... Or maybe he just needs more time to adjust, we haven't been dating long after all.
Oh, but my birthday's coming up! He was probably just planning a party for me with Avy, and I came at an awkward time, right? I'm sure that was it.
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>>559751752
Dude would have another meltdown if Mujin did another video on him.
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>>559752781
Alesh sees you as his boss not his gf, sis.
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wtf the granny actually died.... if only I hadn't done the second part of this quest...
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>>559752237
>we have no idea what [future patch] income will be
>[future patch] arrives
>it's shit
>we have no idea what [future patch +1] income will be
you guys are gonna have to admit it at some point
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>>559752887
That quest reminded me of Frieren
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>>559752409
I gave my reasons for why I'm fine with the current system. You responded to me by bitching about people including it pull income - a bookkeeping-exclusive problem.
If you feel overall income is too low, I disagree, but that's your prerogative. It is, however, completely unrelated to the issue of banner-exclusive pulls.
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>>559752882
But... No... He always acts surprised and grateful whenever I give him gifts, and excited when I invite him to join me on rafting trips in Wuling... Those were obviously dates, right? A boss wouldn't do that with her employees...
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0-EcETdoLi0
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>>559752929
We literally haven't had a single patch yet? I mean, yeah, I'm not going to admit shit without any evidence being given... That's just common sense.
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>>559753250
has he sucked your femdick yet?
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>>559752524
You're retarded.
You still get 80 pulls, you just don't save 20 of it. You're an entitled prick, quit this game.
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>>559753250
>>559752781
never thought id live to see reverse NTR posting
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>>559740727
Only big brained /end/ers will understand that this actually reduces the average cost of desired 6* characters to 70 limited pulls instead of the regular 90.

But almost everyone in this thread is a mouthbreathing third worlder who can't do statistics or follow simple logic.
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yvonne should leave
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10 pulls in this game costs 20 usd. You bootlickers can't be getting paid 40 usd to shill this game every patch. Protesting against this would actually benefit you more
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>>559753447
I waiting for him to make the first move... He's more experienced, so I thought he'd have a better feel for how these things worked. He knows I have amnesia, so he's just been taking things slow to avoid pressuring me... R-right? I mean, that's what I would EXPECT a gentle man like him to do, even if he's more forthright in other areas...
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>>559753670
Sorry sis I fucked your Alesh while selling my elastic goods on your ship
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https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=46334399
if you want to have the same pointless pull income numbers pulled from your ass discussion
but in chinese
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>>559746532
if they start making less money because of their idiocy, then expect to see better pull economy. already their revenue was cut in half in february. here's to March being the endfield apocalypse
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>>559753574
FOUR fucking banners as spook
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>Concerning yourselves with pulls in factory autism game
lmao just play the game and don't pull
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I should be able to roll forever into oblivion like im an old winkled up retard thats blowing his entire life's savings on vegas slot machines mindlessly rolling with zero emotion as i watch my stash fall faster than the water levels of the great lakes
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>>559753875
>already their revenue was cut in half in february.
There's not a single halfway-credible source that suggests this. Retention numbers appear weirdly high for a new game, actually.
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The daily grind in this game feels like such a chore....

I thought this was meant to be better than the daily grind on hoyo games.

Have they said if they wil lfix the number of pulls avilable yet? Tangtang best girl
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>>559753046
gacha system generosity aside, the gacha system itself is very bad for content creators and regular players and whales and the employees of HG who need to feed their families but will be laid off in the coming months. what i'm saying is that it's bad for everyone. you can have your own bird brain opinions, that's just you being the best you can be
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>>559753875
Sensor tower is not a source especially when 60% of their gamers are on PC
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we will go to the next region from here right?
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Lifeng is so lucky bros he gets to have his bussy obliterated by Chen every nights
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>>559744778
Until they 120 carrys over people will just keep quitting. Its the worst feeling ever and stops people FOMO rolling characters.

Why would you design a system in a gacha game that makes people want to hoard and not roll?
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>>559754165
>better than the daily grind on hoyo games
You can login, condense resin, claim your commission rewards and logout in literally 1 minute flat now. No game is beating that.
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>>559754165
you just give a gift, get you trades an clues done and spend stamina
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>>559754417
Hmmmm nyo. 1.1 has Qingbo Stockade and that extra zone in Origin Lodespring.
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so if you start playing after 2 more days you can't do any of these narrative events like yvonne crying
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>>559751939
>The buff Yvonne needed
What the fuck does people even mean when they shit like this? I obliterated all the available content with a pisspoor, unfinished Yvonne in a fuckass full cryo team. What does these fucking people wants? For the game to play itself? Explain this shit to me as if I was american.
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>>559745723
>>559754515
They raise the pity to 160/180 and you have your carry over
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>>559754104
if we ignore the data available to us, then sure
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Not rolling soup soup is the most soulless thing you can do. Do not brick your account
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>>559754650
you just don't get the pull currency
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>>559754730
The game is giving less rolls out per patch than Genshin you realize. If you do this you are getting one rate up character every 3-4 months.

Why would anyone stick around for this?
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>>559754698
BEEG numbers triggers dopamine to justify all their money spent even if the content doesn't need it.
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>>559749951
He will just move on to NTE in a few weeks, that's his job. I don't know why retards take him seriously.
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>>559754597
>still needs to play the game for a whole weekend to stock up on that week's worth of instant daily currency
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>>559754698
The end goal of an automation game is to play itself.
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>>559753850
>chinks are laughing about 60 pulls
>/end/ is defending them
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>>559754417
region wise maybe since theres still a desert and the artic from the trailer. i dont see how a localized cable car connects to any of the major cities on the planet. within V4's sub-areas i doubt it since it doesnt even work to connect the hub with plateau
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>>559755080
Maybe I will skip Rossi for her.
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>>559754925
This. Saint, gachamack, and co will make their "I quit AKE" video, burn bridges, and then move on to NTE.
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>can't get creep shots of the girls
>expects me to give a portion of my paycheck
not a good look endbabs
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>>559754165
>Better than hoyo games
Lolno, it absolutely isn't. If I want to be a extreme lazyfag I can just log in, craft a random gear, level up a randon op and a random weapon, claim rewards and log out, all in roughly 2 min, sanity cap be dammed. You need to actually do shit in hoyo games to complete your dailies.
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>>559752292
Before 2019? Half of them. After 2019? Only 10% and you need to actually dig inside youtube algo or know their name. Most popular Babiniku can only be counted by one hand.
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>>559753850
>Don't believe it all.
>All are false.
>Everyone has their own destiny.
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>>559755276
dont forget they'll move on to NTE and then ananta and cause another series of fake drama videos to get both player bases to shit on each other
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>>559755265
>the Mi Fu propaganda is working
good... good...
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>>559755424
I legit don't think Ananta will come out, ever.
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hehe 2 fucking rolls
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>>559755424
NTE is already going to get shit on by them because it isn't truly anime gta
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>>559755504
Ananta's strategy is wait for GTA VI to come out first then release their game a couple months later.
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>>559755621
That don't sound smart
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>>559755697
theyre waiting for more things to copy and add a normalfag music to build hype
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When can we farm oroberyls? You can do this in Arknights why not here?
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>>559755697
Waiting for gta6's hype to go down is a good idea.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsnNh3kg8
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>>559755697
netease can sit and watch how the market reacts to NTE and gta6. they make millions off marvel rivals, they're not in a rush to release a game that will have major competition and risk the game dying from no players touching it
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Please don't tell me people are happy with Hyperglyph at the moment. Like surely the new game stink has finally gone now and its shown just how jewish they actually are
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Need Adelheid ass in my lap
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Finally did Gilbertas story event. What a slog.
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Why are story quests limited
This is stupid
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>>559753539
I think Mi Fu is a mess of colors and overdesigned
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>>559755905
They were never this greedy in arknights and they had yostar breathing down their back with that. I really don't know what the fuck happened this game
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>>559756208
they aren't
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>>559753691
>>559753539
>>559755080
>>559755440
I hope she is a 5 star.
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>>559756208
bonus rewards for playing it right away at launch are limited, the only limited event we've had so far is taking pictures for the loli
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>>559756208
>Every character story event
>please PLEASE ROLL FOR ME!!!!!
>can't roll
Just doesn't make sense in the begging context they are writing these events
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>he skipped Gibby
unironically bricked
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>>559755761
They should just copy more from Yakuza instead.
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>>559756542
after tangtang no way in hell lmaooooooo
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Is there a time limit for trimming any of the medals or is the event just for some gibs
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>Gilberta brick is still coping
kek
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YVONNE'S SLOWASS BANNER KILLED THE GAME
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>baaaaaka
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>>559756208
i think the time limit is only for the reward point for bp
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I'm going to skip both Tang Tang and Rossi and save for Mi Wai Fu. And then skip CCP mandated wife
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>>559756678
umbral is permanent, the gibs for playing it are limited to when they add more stages for a week or two
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Do I need to do etchspace before the next patch? I kind gave up on it once I unlocked it
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>>559739685
so did they kill the original arknights?
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>>559756208
The Wulfgard story skippers will never get the extra chests, aurylenes, and rich ferrium deposits in Power Plateau, I guess?
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Bros, I'm honestly scared for the low roll income...
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two different wuling oobs spawned for me today yay
now I'm just waiting for 1 more place
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>>559757056
no, it's permanent content
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People keep posting about how stingy the game is. Is this another jeet raid?

If you started playing at launch you should have about 200-210 rolls total which averages out to abput 3 rate-up characters.
The average f2p can get every single limited so far.
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>>559757056
The rewards are easy to get actually. Worry about trimming later.
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>>559757231
The problem is next patch is like 50-60 pulls total. Having 200 rolls on a 7 week long base patch is pretty normal.

When pull count is 50-60 a patch and there is no gurantee carry over its pretty fucking jewish
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>>559753691
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why are you guys skipping contents and then complain about game having no content
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>>559757442
Truly a mystery for the ages.
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>>559757231
You needed to save at least 60-80 rolls in 1.0 going into 1.1.
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>>559757442
I was too busy making oob zips before they patch the Laev-Yvoove jumping exploit
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>>559757231
People were still hopeful while awaiting for the new patch before giving their opinion, but the numbers aren't looking good at all.
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Sloppy Slop Defenders rushing to defend trash pull income as expected of them by the hypergrift slophivemind, yes slop soldiers defend your slophive, defend your AI generated game, defend your ai memes, defend your AI hivemind slop soldiers. You are a busy little soldier ant aren't you, slop soldiers?
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>>559755875
The most skippable operator.
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Kinda wish I pulled Ember with my free choice thingy.
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>>559755875
Sexsex
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>>559757783
That was Brickvatain
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>>559757383
>The problem is next patch is like 50-60 pulls total.
Source

>>559757519
>needed
Who in their right mind *actually* wastes all of their rolls on mediocre 1.0 units? This is a non issues

>>559757704
>the numbers aren't looking good at all.
Will you source the numbers, Prakesh?
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>>559755080
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>>559755875
When she showed her tongue, I masturbated right then and there
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I started jacking off as soon as I get up in the morning and no longer have the urge to play Endfield or any gacha.
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1.1 old shart hypergift lies, by laziness, success is denied
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>>559757915
Arknights Endfield launched on her birthday so there is some favortism. If you aren't a lucklet she was a free real estate boost to your account as Wulf + Akekuri + Ardelia exist and are all free.
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I'm a brick collector. Operator for me?
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>>559758248
Mi Fu
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>>559757917
>Who in their right mind *actually* wastes all of their rolls on mediocre 1.0 units? This is a non issues
NTA, but MOST of my friend list have multiple limiteds in their display card, with about a tenth having all of them. One complete psycho has them all maxed out, too.
Seems pretty damned stupid to me, especially since only Yvonne has any meaningful story presence, but... Apparently, people like this do exist.
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>>559758248
Laeviatan, lmfao
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>>559758248
The entire game is falling like a brick so take your pick of any of them
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>>559755875
>caster
>uses guns
inb4 retards defend this
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>>559758248
Yvonne
>spending rolls when you can just ticket Last Rite
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>>559758248
Rossi.
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You guys DID get your favorite to trust 200, right? The reward I got for getting endmins wife to max trust was definitely worth the gifts
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>>559758418
I maxed out everybody since it unlocks new profile entries and text messages.
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>>559757056
Follow a chest guide because there's no way to check what you're missing in there
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>>559758364
Yvonne is built for true love, not meta damage faggotry.
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More than anything else i'm just kinda bored with the character kits we've gotten. Laev is the only one that actually feels strong. Gilberta is potential woman. Yvonne is a single target brick, Tangtang is a support for the brick, and Rossi is looking like a physical brick as well.

Imagine someone who rerolled for laev cause they were the first banner, you would've literally had no reason to roll on anyone else cause ardelia is way better for her than gilberta too. You'd have 100k+ oroberyls by now and nothing to use them on.
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>>559758527
Lmao the absolute IQ of this general
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>>559758418
what reward did u get
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Yeah im not scrounging for change to roll. I get the chests that I get. not about to try to find the other 30% of em like a broke nigger hounding those around him for a dollar
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>>559758630
>and Rossi is looking like a physical brick as well
Rossi made Chen obsolete and people said Chen is future proof.
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>>559758630
I didn't even reroll since it was so terrible at the beginning AND went to hard pity. Pretty much still kicked back with a huge stockpile even after all that.
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>>559758630
Isn't tangtang also good for last rite?
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This game is a very slow burn. I didn't really like it much at first. But the more time I put into it the more I realize how well put together it is.

My only regret is how slow I've been going thru everything (had surgery a couple weeks back so I took time off) and I'm really behind on developing my factory and colonizing everything. I'm going to need to spend several days just re-learning everything. I forgot how carbon is even made.
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>>559757357
wait you can trim etchspace? what medal?
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>>559758418
yeah she was very happy with the gifts and endfield's working conditions and hours
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>>559740727
It is trash. Speaking as someone with all 6* sans Pog. The roll economy isn't good since you don't get enough content to go to pity/guarantee. But I also believe in rolling for who you like
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>>559758767
Tangtang will be good for any cryo team.
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>>559758580
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>>559758735
>Rossi made Chen obsolete
wdym she isnt even out yet.
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Can you get standard 6* operator signature weapons when pulling for limited weapons or do you need to pull on their banner.
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>>559758248
Yvonne
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>>559758803
My bad nigga I thought you meant umbral. Just do etschspace at your leisure. I do a couple runs a week.
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>>559758953
No standard signatures are treated like limited signatures. You have to go out your way for them
The only exception is you can buy standard signatures after maxing a 6* character and getting two dupes of them. Unless you're a whale by that point you get a max pot + 2 dupes the standards would be powercrept
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>>559758912
It was revealed to me in a dream.
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>>559758580
Filling Yvonne with my love every night
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>>559758914
tails don't work that way... that has to be false.
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>>559740727
I have never seen anyone defend this though
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>>559758914
did anyone defend the tail placement yet or everyone agrees devs are retarded
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>>559758681
>Fuck exploring in an exploration game, even if the game comes complete with handholding tools!
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>>559758912
We already know her kit from the 1.1 stream.
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>>559759091
Feels like such a waste spending arsenal tickets on building standard characters. They always end up being so massively powercrept over time. Maybe it won't be as bad here. Wishful thinking.
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>>559759345
That shit is boring as niggershit
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>>559759195
Her tail is spiky. She can kill somebody with that thing swinging around.
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yeah thanks game I hate you
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>>559758769
>I forgot how carbon is even made.
Refine any plant. Wuling plants produce double Carbon, btw, but require water to grow.
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Buttbros how are we feeling about Endfield butts? Are we happy?
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>>559759409
That was a fun activity thoughover.
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>>559759409
Aw, c'mon, chasing around cute little bunnies is fun. It's too bad they only let you do it once...
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How much do I want Yvonne?
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>>559759370
Our hardest content can still be solod by 4 and 5*s. Signatures and arsenal tickets are a scam for now. Once content is hard enough to require 4 teammates then weapons are worth considering but for now there's nothing that hard
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>>559759602
She has gorilla grip
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>>559759524
They are very shapely and nice to look at. When are we getting a character with a fat dumptruck though.
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>>559759602
>>559759524
>>559759393
>>559758914
I love big butt.
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>>559752682
>>559752292
I actually know her from XIV. She has a real speech impediment.
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If you're so worried about your saved rolls why not just sub to the monthly? Even a Flip like me can afford it.
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>>559759727
that's a man.
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>>559759739
>implying anons here have a j*b
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>>559759727
>xiv
>her
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>>559759739
10 extra rolls does nothing.
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>>559759524
I thought we all agreed the game is gyatt-coded?
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>>559759739
>Buying monthly and battlepass STILL doesnt give you enough to guarantee in a patch
>Every other gacha would give you that much
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>>559759668
Yeah but im a shitter. Some people cleared tower in Wuwa with Danjin but I'm not a gook so that never happened.
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>>559759882
Why are you censoring "job" like you're allergic to it?
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>>559759739
It's still a bad deal even if it's "good" for the ass Endfield currency to roll rates. It's what, $5 USD for just about under 14 rolls once you combine the two currencies?

You could sub an entire year for $60 and just barely guarantee a single character. I grabbed it and the special version pass, but this shit feels bad compared to other games is hardly as impactful as it should be.
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Arknights Jewfield
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Its ironic Endfield has the worst endgame
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>>559759524
NO. Where are my small cute butts!?
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Tangtang's toes
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>>559759946
Explain tangtang
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>>559760212
I'm not a fan of battle passes but it seems like it might be a better value here than other games. How many gacha shekels can you get out of it? Anyone know?
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Why didn't anyone tell me how overpowered Xaihi is?
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>>559760375
her shorts have big cutouts to show her buttcheeks at least
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>>559760367
.. in my mouth
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>>559760470
all anyone ever says about her is that she's what makes ice teams possible because of her 1.6x damage amp
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>>559760481
some of you would fuck a male crossdresser without a second thought
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>>559760595
You wouldn't?
Gay.
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>>559760595
Hey, a good mouth is a good mouth. If their hands and lips are soft, who cares where the blowjobs are coming from?
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>>559758332
Everytime I see that pose I get reminded of this pic
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>>559760470
Hao

Explain like I'm soupsoup
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>>559760653
That butt line was not necessary.
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>>559760781
>>559759602
Whoops
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>>559760809
anyone can do that with steroids and a finisher
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>>559760595
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>>559760595
of course!
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found a cute boy
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>Fagfield industries
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I wish Gilberta raped me as a kid
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>>559760781
He has a point. It's some high-tier bullying, but, like... It's pretty impractical, keeping her in place there and getting the birds in position and waiting for them to do their thing. Though, stress positions like that for prolonged periods of time are ALSO their own form of bullying, so you can combine multiple forms at once... And there are bonus points to claim if she has a pet bird you can give laxatives to, I guess.
Still weird that it caught on, though. Kind of like the whole haigure thing.
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Now that the dust has settled, is it true that yvonne is worthless without gilberto
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>>559761158
Doesn't count, he was pretty obviously about to be kidnapped by the woman photographing him.
...Um, not you, the OTHER woman photographing him.
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Are you guys excited, you get to play the game for 10hrs a day again once 1.1 drops
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>>559761373
game will not have 1.0 content in 1.1 so you can take it easy
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>>559761373
You can complete 1.1 story in 30 minutes
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>>559760595
If they're cute, yes.
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>>559761373
Yes but it needs to be 10 hours x 30 days of content otherwise I'm dropping a nuke on Hypergryph HQ.
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>>559761373
I'm excited. I play this game sparingly because I wage and have plenty of other commitments to do outside gaming.
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Telling Lifeng that you cultivate chi through prostate massage and watching him spread his cheeks enthusiastically before you.
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Is there anything I can prefarm Tangtang for? I have 900 sanity lying around and I was wondering if I should just keep it slow by saving it for 1.1 stuff.
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>>559761657
I want to suck his flat chest
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what's the most retard-proof team to trim bosses with
Some Ember-phys meme team?
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>>559761736
could just mindlessly stack essences. can never have enough
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>>559761657
It's too late. Chen already told him that as a joke, but since he believed her, the two have a regular schedule worked out.
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>>559761541
Imagine releasing a gacha game in 2026 without coop bossing for 1% drop rate materials, lobbies with quickmatch, respond for help, private/ passworded invite only, public all welcome, etc
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>>559761865
Ember equipped with Sundered Prince
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>>559761736
you need ~1.5m credits to max a character and hundreds of the blue rocks, those are a good bet
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>>559761898
I did that for one week straight, but the "half sanity efficiency" event broke me and I really dont want to do it anymore.
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>>559761736
We don't really know which materials she needs but you can farm Essence fodder, creds and XP
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>>559761984
>>559762005
yeah might as well do some credit runs, but seeing 900 sanity really makes it hard to start even though I know that I'll be wasting like 240 sanity every day until 1.1.
Damn why did they make the batteries time limited.
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>>559761994
fallback option is T-creds. they're often a bottleneck when you're powering up a character
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imagine not having double claim in 2025+1
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found another cute boy
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>>559762096
>Damn why did they make the batteries time limited.
fomo makes you play the game. it keeps you in the casino
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>>559762219
yeah, and the burnout from having to run through 900 sanity for efficiency sake is going to free me from the casino, they really should add a sweep option soon.
Any qol stuff they announce in 1.2? Only thing I remember is that they're rerunning the half sanity event again in 1.1 dry period. Hilarious decision.
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>>559761865
pretty much
I wish people would take their head out of the mmo/hoyoslop shitpit and realize that Ember isn't exactly a meme and she does what she's advertised on the tin
yeah more damage is good but comfort is important too, like in monhun
she's a top dog because her teams can meet the strictest dps checks in the game extremely comfortably and retard proof. Her team is just as strong as the highest uncomfortable sustainless burst meme teams all things considered. Except her team can clear more content like gas chamber and maybe bvlls if you're brain damaged, just slower (which isn't really even tracked past the trimming point since the game considers a 30s clear the same as 120s clear)
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>>559761865
https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=46323080
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>>559762364
10k attack lifeng can't hurt you.
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>>559762364
bro whaled 2k just to beat 1 section for 200 oberyls lmao
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>>559762348
>yeah more damage is good but comfort is important too, like in monhun
b-but muh deeps
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>>559762524
yeah but why not both? Capcom giving longsword users a free flinch free has always made me hate playing in groups cause I'm a hammer main and I need to bring flinch free or else they'll be tripping me non stop.
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>>559762364
>Did all that and still couldn't clear
Unless he's about to hit 90, at that point it's not about being old, it's just being bad.
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>>559762214
Doesn't count, he's pretty obviously about to be kidnapped by the woman photographing him.
...Yes, I mean you this time.
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>>559761373
People will be done with the story day 1.
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>>559762510
idk i think it is kinda admirable
he knows his limitations and took his time to strategize and overcome
and he then tried to help other people that might be going through the same thing
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>>559762364
I dont believe this
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>>559762364
And you guys ask for harder content when this is who the game is designed for.
He's already spent more than you will in your life on this game
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>>559762658
While definitely annoying, I don't see it as bad as being launched accross the fucking map by a gunlance.
I am the GL user, I remember one guy walking in my field as I was bursting the everloving fuck out of Fatty's head and him being flinched to oblivion. Pretty funny, but at the same time I felt pretty guilty..
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>>559762757
yeah 1.1 looks to be literally like 1-2 days of content not sure how thats supposed to keep people entertained for 6 weeks
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>>559762364
>all that money spent and can't beat the game
whew, guess money can't buy you out of needing to play the game in this gacha
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>>559762364
Tell me this isn't real
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>>559762790
Yeah, it's a good thing that they shared their experience and helped others see something that may have been a nonobvious path for them. That's what a community SHOULD do. That said...
>>559762364
I can't help but wince at someone throwing away that much money on pots for someone they can't use very well.
But describing himself as an old guy, I guess he probably has a decent amount of money to burn at this point in his career.
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>>559762857
im assuming its like a 40 yr old guy that hasn't played a game in a long time, but even still at 40 you shouldnt be that geriatric to miss all your dodges
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>>559762835
it's a gacha anon
that's how they're meant to be played
go play a different gacha
go outside
go hang out with friends and loved ones
go make money
go play a real game
go jerk off to the girls
go shitpost on 4chan
or a combination of the mentioned activities
the possibilities are endless
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>>559762835
The factory will increase playtime at the very least. Only blueprint suckers will complain while cheating content
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>>559762364
How are people this bad? You can clear all content with a f2p team.
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>>559762949
This game has some of the biggest, most telegraphed attacks I've seen with big ass flashing falres with colors.
Of course there are some that are more subtly, like I get caught by Crossbowfucker's shove every now and then if I'm not paying attention, but overall if you fuck up all of them the issue is on your end. It suck for that guy but we shouldn't kid ourselves about it either: he's bad at the game.
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>>559763118
he's bad at dodging
he is good at the game (he won)
and he's good at life
sounds like winning to me
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>>559763074
retards don't really surprise me
but how come there are retards with so much money
what's the point of being smart or of passable mental capacity when there are literal retards with more money than you somehow
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>>559763023
The cheating stuff gets boring after a bit. Adding a couple facilities to it every patch doesnt really change anything with the gameplay
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>559758332
>Didn't play AK
Okay
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>>559763118
Holy crackers I wrote this reply like an indian, but please understand it's 6 AM.
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You guys are not much better. You were getting filtered not too long ago
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>>559763232
go to sleep bongbro
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>>559762835
Every single live service game has people saying thisbsame retarded take and every single time it's just as retarded. No game has infinite content. Go play something else retard.
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>>559763194
he sacrificed his gaming skills for a money making min-max build
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>>559763074
It's an MMO player too. I bet he would stand on fire or get hit by boss mechanics without realizing.
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Please respect the whales.
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>>559763251
I didn't! It just so happens that the character I like was very good at handling these situations.

>>559763278
I'm from Lelgium.
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>>559762949
I haven't played a fighting game and wow in 10+ years and I wiped on like 4 boss fights. And that was just because I was lazy and didn't level gear.
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>>559763074
He plays wow. You don't react to attacks there you just learn the fight. It's like doing a puzzle while keeping up your rotation.
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gachas shouldnt have infinite content but id like to see Enfield become a little more sandboxy than it currently is. It definitely has got the good barebones for it. thats another form of repeatable content that isnt just grindslop.
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>>559762949
A 55 year old grandpa twitch streamer has better reflexes than him then.
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>>559763367
>Lelgium
Sounds evil
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do belt bridge slowdown the belt speeds?
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>>559763426
Aren't there position shenanigans in WoW though? Granted the only MMO I played was Ragnarok Online, and that was so long ago I don't remember how boss fights went beyond mashing your skills on them while a LK or Paladin soaked all the damages in existence for you.

>>559763502
It is, don't come.
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>>559763194
you assume these guys are comfortably spending their money, but the reality is they're mostly average joes digging themselves into a hole with poor decisions precisely because they're retards.
People do this all the time with normie shit why would it be any different for gacha game players.
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>>559762364
and for the first time, i feel shame in being a chink
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>>559763512
Nope
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Can't pay for the ability to press the dodge button
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>Decide to change my renderer like a week and a half ago
>My game now runs perfectly
>Today, went back to 100% RAM usage
Well, time to find out if changing my renderer once in a while fixes my weird ass RAM usage problem.
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>>559763580
I see that open up some optimization, thank anon
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Make Gaul great again
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>>559762364
Reckon stuff like this will make HG ease up on the difficulty? I don't really want them to since I find the game easy enough, but at the same time I'm a free loader while this dude spent a blibical amount of dough just to get the floor wiped with his arse, and from a business perspective I think I'd have a good idea who to pander my game toward.
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>all that Team Comp Masturbation
>for a Endgame Mode where you can take your sweet time

What is this Mental illness?

I guess it`s only a matter of time, until we get the 2 Minute Check like any other Gacha Games.
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found a cute girl

>>559762731
they unfortunately always have their adults right by them...
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>>559763118
>get caught by Crossbowfucker's shove
Because the telegraphs in this game are dog shit. Some stuff has a long wind-up + red circle like you'd expect, other things like that have no indicator at all except the enemy taking a different stance and they're way faster than the former for some reason. There's no consistency to it.

I've been doing wuling alluviums recently and the big ass jellyfish mobs are bullshit too. They have like 3 different attacks that happen after their tentacles glow white, except they all have different timings so you just have to pick one and guess. It makes for a pretty unsatisfying combat experience because it doesn't feel like you're demonstrating any mastery.
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>>559763678
It did in fact.
This game's optimization makes my head spin man.
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>>559764078
Before I go on, let me say that I'm talking out of my ass, but I imagine that swapping renderer clear a cache and it unfuck your game until it eventually start fucking itself by storing some shit it shouldn't.
Regardless, at the very least you discovered the fix, even if only temporary, to your issue and it's not particulary difficult to execute.
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>>559763861
Watched this retards video
>Resource is a non-issue
>Suddenly show his fully paid bp+
Kwab
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>>559763287
If they made a proper roguelike out of etchspace they wouldn't be having this problem, but i'm the retard i guess.
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>>559763678
Are you using nvidia? The latest 585.xx drivers fucked all vulkan games
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>>559762364
EoS confirmed, only retards will defend this game
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>>559763996
epstein coded game
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>>559764048
>Warning flash, dodge the moment you see it
>Warning flash, 1-2s delay because fuck you
>No warning flash whatsoever because fuck you
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>>559764048
I don't know about the jellyfishes, I don't remember having any particular trouble with them, the only one that surprised me was the big boy jellyfish in dives for ressources that perform attacks while sending out the big expanding wave of fuck you.
As for the crossbowfucker's shove, I want to be fair and say that he's pretty obvious with it, when he's going to shove he scrunch up on himself for a good second, the attack has a very long wind up I just get caught because I'm mashing so fucking hard I'm tunnel visionning on it and the crossbowfucker just become a blur in a sea of shite.
What I'm trying to say is, it's my own fault for getting hit by it.
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>>559764221
3d team combat for roguelike feels a bit harder to get done. I'd reckon they'd need to work on it some more
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>>559764221
>if they made a proper roguelike game mode they would have... 1/20th the amount of players they currently have
great idea
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>log in
>spend stamina
>log out
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>>559764048
Pretty sure certain bosses and mobs were created during the alpha stage and they were meant for a different combat system :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXOFtuW1hwk
There was a more strategic version where using skills freezes time but has a bigger commitment and you need to aim them.
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>>559764370
it do be like that but it do
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>>559764465
Fiona sounded like a hag
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I'm gonna be real I actually could do without the flashes, it kind of distract me.
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>>559764465
>couldve been tactical rpg kino
I hate adhd soulstranny zoomers so much its unteal.
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>>559764465
old combat system would have been fine even with auto skill targeting. In fact, the best way to do it is probably tap for auto target and hold for manual aim. They'd have to add another button for ult though
they just needed to get rid of le dodge. Its addition doesn't really add anything worthwhile to the combat. Certain characters should get a dodge ability, maybe, but everyone getting a busted ass dodge does kill defensive role by default somewhat that they had to add modifiers
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>>559764217
You don't get that many resources from BP.
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Yvonne has become the most popular limited Endfielder and 2nd most popular overall, only surpassed by Perlica who literally has giga for (you) shilling plot armor. Gilberta is the 3rd one, which makes sense because although her design is very puritan, her personality is really charming and cute. Laevatain, despite being SSS tier only got half of the fanart, validating the fact that people who pulled for her are meta drones who only care about her damage and not the character.
>zhuang
90% of the general doesn't even know how to pronounce her name. The horrendous leek pants and her being the blatant CCP mandated push of wuling make her one of the most unpopular limited characters
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>>559764275
I haven't updated my Nvid drivers in months now for many reasons.
>>559764213
Most likely, it's just junk data in the renderer, possibly from duplicated files or some shit.
It's nothing truly ridiculous, but it is damn annoying.
Nonetheless, knowing "change renderer every other week" is good enough for me.
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>>559764465
so they do know how to make a version of that fight where the camera isn't worse than sm64
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>>559764675
Same. When enemies start attacking I just preemptively dodge/parry in most games.
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"Endmin, why do we have over 80k Bombs in our Storage?"
...
What do you mean Terraforming a new planet?"
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>>559764796
Wyvern supremacy
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NTE waiting room
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>>559764796
>There is more art of Wulfgard than Avywenna
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>>559764796
>there are white heterosexuals males skipping this
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>>559764796
Gaul supremacy
>Zhuang
Fungus
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>>559765107
Gameplay sucks, therefore I skip.
I can jork it to all the art I want whether I own her or not.
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>>559765107
bimbos do nothing to me
understandable if they appeal to the lowest common denominator though
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>>559765107
Pink is faggot color
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>>559764796
THE SARKAZ FEARS THE WOLF
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>>559764796
Looks like Fendmin's lead over Mendmin remains strong...
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>>559764943
im about to drop all these bombs to detonate the core of talos and turn it into another star
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>>559764796
perlica numbers dont make sense shes the most boring character second only to leek.
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>>559764796
Look at this retard porn addicted analyzing porn tags and he isn't even doing it right because most Laevatain art is under the Surtr tag
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Jewknights Jewfieild
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So tangtang is must pull?
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>>559765291
she appeals to asians while retards are more appealing to westerners
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I wonder if Leek is going to be Nature instead of Lightning.
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>>559765291
perlica's design is pretty sexo
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>>559765369
>must pull
no such thing.
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>>559765369
yeah remember to pull out, or your children will be retarded
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>>559745973
>>559746671
>>559746837
>>559746916
>even some old pc can run it

NTA but I also play on my phone.
It's literally impossible for my PC to run this game (and most modern programs as well).
I cannot even update OS anymore due to hardware limitations.
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>>559765201
>rossi first picks up Endmin's scent from Perlica, from the time she caught you when you came out of the orginium slab
that means perlica never washed her clothes
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found yet another cute boy
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>>559765503
I'm actually quite impressed at those specs.
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>>559765503
PotatoGODS...
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>>559765291
Are you satisfied now Endmin? They did this to entertain (You).
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>og arknights has 5 roguelite modes
>there's still anons complaining 'no content'
>demand roguelite out of endfield because 'no content'
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>>559765201
Wtf is this shit she can control her clothes with her mind or something
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>>559765369
Are you using Yvonne/Last Rite and don't want them to brick if the boss is slightly faster than Rhodagn? Then yes.
Otherwise why would you get a Cryo support if you're not using any Cryo teams
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bruh..
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>>559764465
>battle skills used cooldowns instead of SP
god damn that explains so fucking much. I always thought it was retarded how prominent they were in the UI. Now that they're spammable and gated by SP, seeing the icon gives you no useful information, they're literally just there to look pretty.

Like wow I totally forgot laev's battle skill was the thing that makes the orb thank goodness i have this icon to remind me. How stupid do you gotta be where that is actually something you need?
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>>559765392
HG swapped 100% Chen and Perlica's personalities while drafting them. Asian chicks are quiet or brooding while white girls are loud or annoying.
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>>559765643
Don't you diss man I miss the days where GPUs weren't massive fucking bricks.
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>>559765643
soul
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I'm 10 pulls away from the free 10 pull on yvonne's banner but I got lucky and got her on the second multi. Is it worth the bogo to get weapon tickets?
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>>559765643
its even funnier that you can still buy these relics for real fucking cheap off chinese websites since there were so many used in cyber cafes
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>>559765539
why are you taking pictures of little boys
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>>559764048
skill issue detected
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So are the black operators all going to have african accents when we eventually get to the african region?
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>>559757231
I've only pulled laeva and I can just barely buy Rossi by the end of the month.
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>>559765938
no playable shotas so gotta make due with npcs
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>>559766203
>black people
>in a chink game
even zzz, the game thrown around as inspired from black culture, has 0 black people in it lmao
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>>559766231
1 guarantee every other patch is about on par with genshin. You just don't feel it as much over there because they release new limiteds way less frequently, so it doesn't feel like you're missing out as much. You're mostly skipping reruns and that's it.
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>>559757231
How do people say this game is generous?
If at this point most people would have been able to guarantee like every fucking limited unit and most people will only have enough for 1.

I don't think I've ever seen a gacha THIS fucking stingy.
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>>559766231
Factually untrue
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>>559766203
You'll get hispanic. We got one black accent in AK and it's a fuckin penguin.
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>>559766203
Sorry not sorry but no black ever contributed to any nation or culture
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>>559757231
i started later and missed the first codes
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>>559761373
Beta testers have confirmed you can burn through the 1.1 content in 20 minutes or so. There's one little area leading into a boss-pit and that's that really. You spend more time washing shit and piss off of burdenbeast than you do actually exploring a new area, that's how small area we are talking about.
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Og AK gets shitposted for being stingy every other week btw
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>>559761373
if only HG could recreate the experience of playing this game for the first time. alas
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hyperstinge
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>>559757231
>120 pulls to guarantee
>You assume everyone will win their 5050 on 80 pity
If that's the case then other 3D gacha game consistently give out enough to get everyone too.
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>>559766504
gugugaga?
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>>559766541
i have 300 rolls saved at all times
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>>559766568
2.0 might bring it back but then we'll fall off with 2.1 again
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We about witness another speedrun to eos like concord
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ummm china is a communist country. their games should give us unlimited pulls.
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>>559766671
Sasuga Chenposter
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i should get a million free rolls so i can get every character for free
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>>559766651
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>wah wah wah stingy eos!! Not giving us 1000 pulls every week bad wahhhh evil company jew
Hey, I've seen this before!
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>>559742453
>quota exchange
Opinion discarded
It's 63 pulls actually
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Jennifer English will save this game
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>provides the lowest amount of rolls compared to any other gacha
>banners end faster than any other gacha
>pity resets making it possible to lose hundreds of $$$$$ in rolls
>"y-y-ou only need 120" but you NEED 120 rolls to even begin rolling otherwise risk having your pity reset so you're always stuck need the maximum amount of rolls needed
>weapon rolls tied to unit rolls
>if you roll the limited unit early you get no weapon rolls meaning its always a win/lose situation where no matter what happens you still lose
>temporary rolls where you have to wait a week to even get them

>people will say this is a generous gacha
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>>559766810
dead game
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>>559766897
>63 pulls
man this is just sad...
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>>559758630
>only characters with a win button are fun
yep, checks out. typical gacha tard turdie
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How much did Endfield make? Do we have the sensortower numbers?
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>>559766810
Coincidentally both game have ties to Yostar and have the same "120 pulls guarantee but everything resets" mechanic and weapon gacha tied to character pull.
And both are dying.
Endfield faisl to compete with other more generous 3D gacha games and Stella Sora fails to compete with Blue Archive.
Maybe they won't EoS anytime soon but with the amount of money they earn, it'll be a constant maintenance mode where they can't add anything new and refreshing since they don't want to waste the budget they could instead invest into their more profitable games.
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>>559766897
no its 42
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>>559767034
90 millions so the highest earning gacha game last month
Source: trust me
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A lot of hangers-on to this supposedly dead EoS stingy game, huh?
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>>559758630
Gilberta reminds me of Grace from Zzz.
Where everyone said "THIS CHARACTER WILL SURELY BE META IN THE FUTURE DON'T SLEEP ON HER JUST YET"
And then she just got powercrept and forgotten.
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>>559767138
We are entitled. This game was promised to us 3000 years ago.
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>>559767067
>Coincidentally both game have ties to Yostar
>Bro couldn't even do his homework before shitposting
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>>559767119
I don't see this game pulling Cyrene numbers after the paypal fiasco, bwo
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>>559767034
Sensor tower says 60 mil on the first month, being 8th on the ranking. But HG said that they made 197 mil or something. If their words are to be believed then genshin hsr zzz and wuwa are making more than triple of what was shown on sensor tower which is absurd
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>>559767227
>if their words are to believed
You mean if whatever organisation conducting the calculation is to be believed
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>>559758735
This
When Rossi is released, I can no longer use Chen. If I don't pull Rossi, my team is fully bricked until I pull her or I wait until a new char makes her obsolete. I hate powercreep.
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>>559766632
>You assume everyone will win their 5050 on 80 pity
False, the only assumption is that you build pity with free tickets (which everyone does anyway). This nets you 2 50/50s every other banner which averages out to a cost of about 70 rolls per desired 6*. As long as you don't literally want every single character, you can comfortably average out getting every 2nd limited as a f2p
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>>559767034
Based Da Pan
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>>559758735
Rossi is considerably more costly at building vulnerability stacks
Not that Chen is particularly cheap though
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>>559767034
Where the heck are you guys pulling these AI gens? Any lewd ones?
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>>559767354
Read nigga read
I'm replying to this statement
>If you started playing at launch you should have about 200-210 rolls total which averages out to abput 3 rate-up characters.
>The average f2p can get every single limited so far.
It's like saying hoyo games gives out enough for average f2p to get every new limited character becacuse they gave out 120 pulls per patch and you make up the rest from 4* dupes which translates to 1 more limited pull.
Meanwhile Endfield doesn't even give you 1 limited pull from pulling dupe 5* after maxing their pot. Instead you get more AIC quota which is useless past a certain amount.
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>>559747604
large asses
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>>559767464
check on iwara blud
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>>559767440
Yes but Rossi is a very cute, stinky and sexy small Lupowife with a very cute hood. Probably much smarter than Chen too. Also the idea of building what wack hybrid team is appealing to me. Also
>Start fight with Rossi ult for heat stack
>Rossi battle skill for vul
>trigger combo skill
>end on 3 vul stacks for 1 SP cost
Doesn't seem that bad to me
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>>559761373
Do you have 900k million credits?
That's how much it costs to level from 1 to 90.
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>Endfield is stingy
>Endfield is a cheapsteak
>Endfield is expensive

Honest question, if the ONLY thing you care about is Pulling... why not play a gacha with high pull rates and tons of free shit like Trickcal or Blue Archive?

As someone that plays
>Trickal
>BA
>Genshin
>Endfield
My understanding is that 3D gachas will never give you free stuff since you're getting "value" out of playing an open world, with 3D waifus and action combat, for free.
Meanwhile chibi gachas like Trickcal, BA, Nikke, etc, need to give the players tons of pulls since they don't have any gameplay at all.

If you're given a 3D game AND tons of pulls, both for free, how the developers are gonna make money?
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give me the mats needed for Tangtang and Rossi
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>>559767587
I don't want mmd shit
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>>559767694
ToF is a 3d gacha that has a non-gacha server
DNA is a 3d gacha that removed the gacha before launch
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>>559767694
No, no, you're not allowed to say that. You're supposed to be BEGGING the devs to copy hoyogames more, while simultaneously begging the devs not to copy hoyogames
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>>559767694
They're unironically entitled retards thinking they can make "changes" if they shit up a 4chan thread
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>>559767536
I've read your post like 3 times now. I think you just don't understand what average means.

>>559767668
>Doesn't seem that bad to me
Assuming you can start with fight with ult, we don't know whether that's the case for bosses in 1.1

And even then, you are stuck waiting for ult again after that one rotation. The problem is that Rossi's combo relies on her ult and her ult relies on her combo to build ult energy. It's somewhat of a circular dependency that forces you to spend a lot of SP to build ult energy to restart her rotation again.
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>>559767694
It's third worlders that honestly believe that if they bitch and moan enough the company is going to suddenly change their entire model. Mental illness, you could say.
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>>559767694
We don't want "tons of pulls" though if they give them then it's welcomed. We want enough to get at least 1 6* every patch or a guarantee every two patch. But the problem is how bad pull economy are that we might need to wait 2 or 3 patches to save a 120 pulls for a guarantee. Not to mention 20 of those limited pulls are banner specific so if you pull and you got a 6* on banner you don't want then you just wasted a 5050 chance on getting the unit you want in the banner you want. If you don't use them, then you wasted 20 pulls.
It's all fomo and bad income that frustrates the players.
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>>559767694
Add Browndust2 to that list of generous. Now THAT is generous you can literally pull every character lmao
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>>559767768
>Tower of Fantasy
Unironically dying

>DNA
Unironically dying

I mean, I'm not against the idea of a generous 3D game, I just haven't seen a single example where it actually works though.
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>>559767870
Can you prove the "average" player you mention have all 3 limited char? No. Check your friendlist and look at all their limited. Fuckass.
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>>559767768
>ToF spent years as a regular pay gacha, opened a non-gacha server after it had stopped making money
>DNA is speedrunning EOS
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>>559767881
>we dont want a ton of pulls
>we want >basically a ton of pulls
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>>559766739
you're laughing but people who aren't able to pull a single character in over a month are quitting. but HG only cares about the spenders and the spenders probably don't care about player population. I really don't know except this isn't an MMO or a live service that requires multiplayer to function
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I still haven't unlocked farming
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Endfield is generous. You don't need rolls to complete content and lower rarity weapons are great.
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>muh guarantee
>gambling game
Are you guys really asking for guarantees in a slot machine?
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>>559767884
>Browndust2

Do you REALLY want Endfield to become like this?
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>>559767870
>The problem is that Rossi's combo relies on her ult and her ult relies on her combo to build ult energy. It's somewhat of a circular dependency that forces you to spend a lot of SP to build ult energy to restart her rotation again.
That's why you take Gilberta, while the other half of the team are Phys
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>>559768045
Yes.
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>>559767980
>Standard 3D gacha post genshin gives out at least 80 limited pulls with extra pulls from mails with pulls being able to be used in any limited banners
>Endfield gives out 60, 20 of which are banner specific, with no guarantee pity carry over, only the 80 pull 6* pity which can be reset on banners you don't want to pull in if you use said 20 pulls.
Suck a cock somewhere else.
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>>559767881
>We want enough to get at least 1 6* every patch or a guarantee every two patch
That is LITERALLY the case from what we know of the pull income for 1.0 and 1.1 so far.
Completely f2p you can guarantee one 1.0 and one 1.1 limited at worst case. The average case can get 3 limited so far.

>>559767968
Thanks for confirming that you do not know what average means.
>Can you prove
Yes, but the math would go straight over your head.

>>559768056
>That's why you take Gilberta, while the other half of the team are Phys
Because Gilberta does such a great job at providing support for a completely physical team with her arts susceptibility, right?
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>>559767312
it's the fucking government
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>>559768016
Yes since it was normalized in 2020.
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>>559746201
>2 weeks rossi
>2 weeks tangtang
you're in april, congrats!
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>>559768082
Are you sure?
Do you really want Operators to insert Magical Wands inside their ass?
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>>559768112
Gilberta's purely there for Rossi
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>>559768119
Your pity is already your guarantee. It's baffling to ask for more in your casino
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>>559767227
we don't know what the wuwa and hoyoslop ratio on their mobile/pc/console split. Like you know it's higher than sensor tower's fanfiction, but you don't know by how much. Wuwa and zzz are definitely higher. Hsr might be the lowest due to how the game is easily played on mobile and has the highest normie/women/tranny appeal. Genshin might be 2nd highest mobile ratio
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>>559768112
I bet your average calculation is "if player lose 5050, they'll win their next 5050" which is fuckign retarded.
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Well everyone, I might brick my account by going for Rossi dupes
I can't help it, she's so fucking sexy
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>>559768186
This but Tangtang
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>>559767968
I'm an average player
I have gil and laev and enough to get yvonne, but aI'm not getting her. I'm getting either rossi or tangtang
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I need dry Tangtang!
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>>559768145
Yes
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>>559768183
Well then prove me wrong? You do the calculations and post the real average please.
You won't though. It's easier for you to live in ignorance and complain about it.
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Is level 90 inefficient (maybe besides your main dps)? Not too sure what to use sanity on.
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>>559768109
>your gacha game MUST follow my gacha game rules!!
Unlike you, I have patience and am playing this game as intended. Not rolling for every banner like a retard.
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>>559768112
The reason people put gilberta with rossi is because her battle skill requires the target to already be vulnerable to trigger its bonus effects. You might say just hit it with chen first or something, but that's another battle skill cast which on top of the 3rd one you need for her infliction requirements means you need 300 SP to set up her combo which is weak and unsustainable.
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>>559768283
lvl 90 is good on your dps and even sub dps
not that necessary on your supports
you can build a whole new character or go for masteries
if not stock up on tcreds and exp since they'll evaporate next time you get a new character
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>>559768145
I love hags dressing in age-inappropriate clothes.
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Tang Tang? More like Sex Sex.
https://litter.catbox.moe/3crj2h800ydoyqwf.jpg
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>>559768283
Most of the time supports are ok 60 to 80 with only one skill getting maxed. I don't have physical team but from what I heard they need everyone to be leveled because their dps is shared overall
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>>559768016
It's the same people that think pity carrying over makes their "home" games more fair, balanced and generous. When in reality you can see just by looking at the sheer revenue numbers they make that it actually enables poorer gambling habits and spending
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>>559768243
You are a lucky player who won 5050 both which leave you enough to hard pity a limited unit, shut the fuck up.
The average user have to hard pity a banner and win or lose a coin flip which would either leave them with no pulls or 60 which is barely enough to get a guarantee limited on the 2nd banner of 1.1
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>>559767768
pretty sure DNA was a warframe-like from it's conception, but wears a gacha coat to draw in the normies.
except it sucks as a warframe competitor, and gacha
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>>559768283
I would only ever level 1 level 90 per team (i.e. your main dps)

>>559768307
>but that's another battle skill
And? Gilberta needs an arts infliction applied to use her combo, which ALSO requires a battle skill.
Vulnerability stacks are extremely abundant in physical teams. Getting a first Vulnerability stack on the enemy in physical teams is not the bottleneck, the arts infliction is.
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>>559767849
I doubt the people kvetching about pull income and pity really believe in what they're saying. If they did, they'd get out of the thread and take it to xitter. But that's not what they want, they just want to shitpost in the thread.
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>>559768338
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>>559768368
>The average user have to hard pity a banner
LITERALLY does not understand averages
What country are you from?
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>>559768372
i don't know
i played like an hour of soulframe and it sucked ass
literally soulless rollslop drivel
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Endfield is the worst gacha game because
>the endgame has no timer, i'm not forced to pull newer and stronger units
>the gear system doesn't require me to use stamina or energy, and the gear stats are not random
>the weapon essence system is terrible, it should not have hard pity where i can just use coolant gels
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>>559768341
someone should make actual nude mods for the game
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>>559768418
no it doesn't
it requires an arts reaction
you can get an arts reaction from perlica's combo skill without any BS
or ardelia
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>>559768418
>Gilberta needs an arts infliction applied to use her combo, which ALSO requires a battle skill
That's why perlica is also a lock in. The two of them together are the only way to get a vuln stack on the target for free. You're obviously not playing a physical team at this point but it's the only way to make rossi's kit work with the current roster.
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>>559768484
soulframe has nothing in common with warframe gameplay wise, other than same devs
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>>559768578
Or you could replace Gilberta with Wulfgard and run a normal physical team + him.
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>>559768360
I got all but 5 limited in ZZZ by only buying monthlies and I have 200 pulls worth of residual signal that you get from getting dupe 4* and 5*.
In Endfield, I got 1 off rate 6* on laevatein and had to do 120 pulls which didn't give me anymore 6* and reseted it when I got laevatein.
Then I pull on gilberta. I got 3 off rate 6* before guaranteeing gilberta. I also spent for 2 monthlies, 1 bp, all the 15 bucks 10 pull on specific banner, and 75 bucks on packs. Now I only have 80 pulls with everything completed, including missions, aurylene, and chests. I would've had enough to guarantee Rossi day 1 if my 30 pity on yvonne carries over but it doesn't so I'm down 30 pulls and need to either get lucky on my 5050 in 40 pulls or I have to find 40 pulls for a 120 pull guarantee, which leave me with nothing for Rossi.
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>>559768545
Yes, but the models are fucked up. Like the clothes are part of the model and modders have to create the nude parts.
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>>559758332
Arknights lorelet detected.
Guns ARE caster weapons in this universe, because they require extremely high Originium Arts proficiency to actually use. No they're not IRL "a baby can pull the trigger" sticks that shoot chemical explosion propelled slugs, they are literal "wands" that you need to activate via properly connecting a delicate magic circuit with your magic manipulation powers at the exact same time you pull the trigger.
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>17 day banners
That's kinda random
Will 1.2 start in 34 days?
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>>559768372
No it was a regular genshin like gacha in development but the devs realized it was DOA so they ripped out the gacha elements as a last resort to try and salvage it.
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>>559758332
marksmen, which are physical ranged damage dealers, don't exist in endfield for some reason.
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>>559768794
is there a reason why gunpowder firearms haven't been invented in the AK setting, are they stupid?
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>>559768853
Because conventional gunpowder doesn't exist in Arknights world
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No one cares about Tangtang!
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>>559768902
what i mean is, exusiai/lemuen are still classified as marksmen because they do physical damage in game.
endfield has no marksman class whether the character uses a gun or other ranged weapon
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>>559767097
This says you get 96 thougheverbeit
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>>559768793
modders have done it for genshin and wuwa where the clothes being the skin of the model is also done, it takes time to redo/custom make a new body but someone will do it if they can make money off a patreon or st
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How comes no one dooms about original arknights having time limited pulls and you having to log in daily to get them?
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>>559769000
What have you done, Mr. Lee....
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>>559768873
It's less of retarded, but more of they have no need of it. Not when their literal bows can shoot even further and harder than average guns. Arknights are filled with people who are multiple times stronger than normal people. So why make guns to shoot without using magic when you can make stronger shots with just your hands?
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so many cute boys gathered in one place

>>559765938
they're cute
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>>559769075
because i can just borrow maxxed out limited units from my friends list
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>>559769094
oops all expired
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>>559769075
We love Arknights, that's why
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>>559768873
There's just no such thing as gunpowder on Terra. In a collab event with R6S, their bullets contain Earth's gunpowder and it was a marvel for Terrans. But when they try to recreate it, they found out Terran has no material for it. They try to substitute them with similar materials and it didn't work.
Now in Endfield we learn that Originium consumes energy dense mineral and oil so that's probably what happened in Terra that causes them to never be able to create gunpowder.
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>>559769130
with rossi's story quest you'll get a lot more shotas and lolis to take pictures of in their sex cave
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>>559769075
It's a good game so even doomposters enjoy it.
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>>559769075
a good portion of doomkeks are actually AK players who hate that another game is potentially going to syphon off players from their sunk cost game.
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>>559769075
Arknights came before Genshin. Its that simple.
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>>559769054
??? Because they just decided there was no real gameplay distinction between Gun and Wand casters for Endfield compared to Arknights is the simplest explanation. By in-universe definition, Lateran gun-toters would still be in the same boat as Endfield's and vice-versa. In reality, they're just really fancy funnel wands the users channels their arts into to launch projectiles.
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So we can make industrial explosives but we cant put it in a tube to make a gun? Where's the logic here
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>>559768368
I had to go to 120 for laev, which is an unlucky event by itself (bottom 30% luck)
but I also got Gilberta on the way (top 14% luck) so it balanced out
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>>559765503
>>559765643
>>559765645
POORFAGS GODS?!
I can play it on 720p
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>>559769361
mating press
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>>559769405
At some point gunpowder is just not needed when a terran human can chuck a spear and cause devastation by hand.
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>>559769405
the logic is that arts do way more damage than guns could ever hope to do
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why do we need bombs to break open rocks when we could simply attack them
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>>559769476
this is a hebe btw
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>>559769714
union rules
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>>559769714
We can?
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>>559769668
I wonder if Asians actually understand how powerful guns really are. Just a simple intermediate caliber 5.56x45mm could explode half your head off but I see they treat guns more like crossbow bolts in the damage that they cause in Asian media.
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>>559769835
why would a random cracked rock be sturdier than the super rare ores that we break?
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>>559769405
Try making a bullet our of TNT.
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we get way too much stamina
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>>559769739
really...?
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Two more days
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>>559757747
we dont have a bike to drive around soulless empty maps, wuwa does
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>>559766504
What? Who?
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>>559767694
Honest answer, I want every single gacha game to drop (or better, be banned from) gacha monetization and do something else, whether it's full price B2P /w frequent content DLCs, an MMO subscription model or a F2P cosmetic+BP heavy model.
Literally anything but gacha (that isn't like 1 dollar for ten pulls level of pricing) is absolute jew cancer.
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>>559769889
They don't, the average asian is incredibly ignorant about guns outside of their hardcore hobbyist.
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>>559769912
All you need to make that work would be to figure out how much of it you need to send the bullet out the barrel without making the gun explode. It would have to fuction like a musket since you cant use TNT as a powder.
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>>559769967
Even if you used all those stamina packs you wouldn't have even 1/4 of required credits to level one character to 90.
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>>559769967
no we dont. i have played since released with pass + monthly and only have one fully maxed out unit (lvl 90 M12 Max Essence)
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>>559770047
Hope that works out for Ananta. Because all I see is a ticking monkey's paw timebomb with that sort of wish
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>>559770047
>MMO subscription model
Fuck off
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>>559770025
3.
Update goes live on Thursday.
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>>559769336
The best /end/ posters are from /akg/.
/akg/ Endfield haters simply don't come here.
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>>559768902
what about industrial explosive?
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>>559770047
No one is gonna pay $21 for a game these days. Remember: the only redeeming quality of Silk Song is that its $20.
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>>559768873
There's no need + they historically have problems with some resources used by our civilization thanks to Originium assimilating organic matter.
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>>559769336
Actually I play only just endfield and login daily to do everything then come here to shitpost and stir up trouble because its funny to me and I dont have anything to do on the game. When the patch hits ill be to busy playing endfield to doompost so you can expect to see peace for about 2-3 days before im back at it.
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>>559770040
Emperor is black coded
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>>559770047
>MMO subscription
you basically already have this in every 3d gacha
its called the monthly + battle pass
in every 3d gacha if you wait for the character rerun rotation with monthly + BP, you are guaranteed every character assuming you play the game pseudo actively
the tradeoff is a game with close to no barrier of entry with the downside requiring you to be pseudo active
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>>559769075
No one here talking about the pull economy in this game has played the original
Speaking of, all I really want is Blue Poison
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>>559770378
>spoiler
Because you can just farm rocks..
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>>559769405
We can. It's just that it's being sent and detonated by arts.
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>>559770378
Maybe because OG AK's limited banner are scheduled so you can save up your pulls for a guarantee and we have 6 months of wait to plan ahead? I have 300 pulls always and spend excess on standard unit that I like.
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>>559770174
Hello /akg/, I saw the reactions when AK almost beat EF in revenue. I expect nuclear levels of shitposting when it actually happens and you collectively take the mask off.
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>>559770250
A single 10 roll for weapons in endfield is like 15 dollars by the way. And chances are you won't even get a single 6* weapon out of it, let alone the ones you need.
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>>559770437
I can guarantee you the rock farming is virtually the equivalent of those infinite boxes at the end of the Endfield BP (i.e. a pittance at the end of the day)
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>>559769668
They do, Lowlight definitely is the sort of gunaboo, but you need to understand that Terrans are not humans, they are humans+ that have several times the physical prowess of even gorillas. Therefore the exact skull explosion you're talking about can be achieved by a Terran child tossing a rock at your head.
Humans are literal wet-tissue-paper (even more so than IRL) when compared to anything else in the Arknightsverse. It's the primary reason why the Doctor is a helpless camera man and scientist.
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>>559770492
>comparing mobile only game with a multi platform game in mobile revenue
dishonest
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>>559770437
Imagine the tourist meltdown if they add 1-7 rock farming to Endfield and shitters learn that you ONLY get 10 pulls/month this way.
>>559770492
Most know better that you shouldn't compare PC games to Mobile. Arknights will absolutely beat Endfield on the memechart this may when they release Talulah.
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>>559770510
it's very lucrative, except that you tend to need to interrupt your farming to do events
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>>559770492
>I saw the reactions when AK almost beat EF in revenue
Bro, Arknights' revenue is virtually ALL mobile only. This is not the case with Endfield. Unless you still want to live in your Sensortower fantasy
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>we love Arknights
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>>559770590
Akahually I'm pretty sure most whales play it on PC now, even though the keybinds are retarded.
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>>559757859
her outfit looks kind of retarded when youre actually controlling her. for being the most militaristic character she really be running around in assless chaps.
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>>559770492
>collectively
I play and enjoy both because i'm not some schizophrenic loser. Both of them succeeding just gets me more of what I enjoy so where is the issue?

I don't understand the brown urge to shit on things you like.
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>>559770652
She left her power armor and patron firearm in the North for an alter bait.
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>>559770601
Yes!!!
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>>559759940
I got Yvonne on my first 10 pull
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>>559770348
The point is that I don't want to gamble, at all. If I'm giving someone money, I want a guarantee of what I'm getting. Replace the banner gacha with a simple 20 dollar purchase for all I care, and we're good in my book, just remove the fucking RNG from obtaining the most important content (the characters and weapons).
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>>559770652
Ember be doin' it Mike Tyson style
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>>559770860
gambling is the whole point of gacha games. if you don't want to gamble then you have to be comfortable not getting every character
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I love Sarkaz women, I must rub and tug every tail and lick their horns. Xaihi and last rite are NOT safe with me.
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I'm guessing Tangtang is BiS for Yvonne?
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>>559770923
I know, but I think the gacha only ever hampers a good (or potentially great) game underneath it, therefore I want the entire concept banned and destroyed, same as with gambling in general.
Also
> if you don't want to gamble then you have to be comfortable not getting every character
is literally going against the point of the original gachapon concept, since it's supposed to be a very cheat way to get the gacha toys, and IRL they're also supposed to be tradable, as the entire point is to be able to collect the entire set(s) of toys.
So another way to solve or at least alleviate the gacha game problem would be to make the characters/potentials tradable between players
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>>559771156
Tangtang's pussy is BiS for my cock
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>>559770860
>I want a guarantee of what I'm getting
it's called spending 120 pulls worth of money, and it's not going to be $20
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>>559770923
>if you don't want to gamble then you have to be comfortable not getting every character
NTA but this used to be the accepted norm pre-Genshin. Everyone was on the same page and knew gacha/gamba systems weren't your friend and didn't expect them to pretend to be so, like the post-Genshin players do now. You learned to be picky about which character releases you cared about the most, and skipped/put the others off for a later rerun if the savings allowed for it. I never hopped onto the 3D gacha train, so this moaning and groaning about the gambling system not being "generous" looks really bizarre to me.
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>trading my future Tangtangs
I think not
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>>559771178
I agree with you completely but unfortunately over the last 15 years gaming has gone from a passtime to a predatory money printing complex
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>>559771210
ah yes, ai still doing 6 fingers
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>>559771269
>uses guns
>still runs up and kicks the enemy
Our Supreme Chief is the best.
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>>559771178
imo it is necessary evil
for narrative live service games, its basically the only business model that is sustainable and not too risky for other businesses to invest in
the age of MMO is over. Even at the peak of MMO success, MMOs were still seen as a risky investment.
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>>559771237
>and it's not going to be $20
Bingo, now you're gotten to the core of the problem... extreme fleecing and abysmally low bang-for-your-buck performance.
It's very clear that 99.9% of gacha devs think like "I need to make a game to fleece for my gacha" instead of "I need to make a reasonable gacha monetization to pay for my game"
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>>559771416
>>559771416

new thread
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>>559771431
why do you want to pay $20 when you can just save up and get the character for free?
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>>559771384
Social media killed MMOs, and will continue to be the reason the genre will never rise again
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>>559771276
>>559771384
I don't care, I'm all for all governments and power-that-be absolutely and completely crushing this sort of stupidly highly unethical model.
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>>559768564
>>559768578
>yeah but if you use arts character X and then arts character Y and then arts character Z then you can finally use Rossi as a vulnerability stacker!
Just play an arts team bro
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>>559771489
Because they will not allow me to consistently save up and get every character for free on release of the character, which is almost the entire point of playing the game?
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>>559745887
Game will reach EoS before people can reach the 300 selector on standart banner kek.
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>>559742731
They kind of missed the mark on everything that makes pulling fun. My friend who gambles every pull he gets as soon as he's able to hates this system that wants him to stockpile and wait.
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>>559754864
And that's ignoring the fact that genshin only mostly releases one character per patch.
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>>559757231
>The average f2p can get every single limited so far.
And do you seriously think that will keep up?
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>>559758769
Honestly, most of the appeal died when I was done with the base building and death stranding, which isn't something I would say about genshin for example in which I still enjoy what little time I get to spend playing every day, the simple act of clearing domains has a satisfying feel to it's that I can't find in endfield's daily activities. It needs more than just combat and menus on a daily basis to remain fun.
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>>559770492
mobile is 30% of rev retard
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>>559740727
Hypergrift has built up an army of turd world slurper yesmen who will defend anything they do.
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>>559766897
>11 Standard
Good lord, getting 300 F2P is going to take a while.



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