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Threadly Reminder Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>559720959
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deadlock is a game made by trans folx for trans folx. Don't like that? go back to marvel rivals chuddy
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buy the egg
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niggers mad doorman clicked on them
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>Cheater has more kills than his entire team combined
Why am I running into a chinksect premade in the eastern US
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LET'S SEE WHAT YHWH CAN DO
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>>559750424
This is a more effective way of shilling Slopvel Chinkvels than the previous scheme of just begging, I'll give you that
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Sex with Venator
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yeah uhhh wraith is still obscenely OP lets get something done about it icemonkey! :)
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>Silver
Needs buffs.
>israel
Needs to be nuked.
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>>559750424
if I'm playing anything else it's dota2.
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>>559750532
Calm down Mina!
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so is Apollo not good at high elo?
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>>559743748
I hadn't actually checked in on Siege since maybe before /r6g/ died so I don't know why I expected your post to be an exaggeration. We'll see if Valve hero design can ever beat this shit
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Is Silver useless or am I just beyond dogshit at the game?
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>but modders can do better and faster than valve ever can!
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Oh boy, time to play Deadlock. Let me just set my hero roster real quick
>Calico
>Doorman
>Wraith
>Victor
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new to this moba nonsense, any tricks to not crash out after 70 minute losses? just had a particularly bad one, I feel physically uncomfortable and disturbed, very angry unlike any other genre never been this mad at a game
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>>559750589
Shalom, rabbi! Whatcha doin' there?
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>>559750732
this is ai generated thoughever
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Reminder to stop playing standard and play street brawl so you can enjoy your life :)
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>>559750460
>Cheater gets caught out and dies
>His entire team falls apart
Get fucked cheatnigger. Total Chinaman Death
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>>559750754
take medication to alter your brain to be calmer
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>>559750732
what did he mean by this
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>>559750786
its the inspiration and a good one but doubt a random modder will ever put out that amount of effort unless being paid / turned into a arcana
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>>559750848
i will never do that
i'm a really chill guy but i can't handle moba matches like this
if i queue again i'll legit feel physically ill
how do you deal with 70min easily avoidable losses?
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>>559750754
Don't play mobas
Bad for your mental health
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>>559750754
>any tricks to not crash out after 70 minute losses? just had a particularly bad one, I feel physically uncomfortable and disturbed, very angry unlike any other genre never been this mad at a game
welcome to mobas, enjoy your stay
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genuinely one of the worst patches for a game i've played regularly in a long time. have not had my will to play sapped like this in a while
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>>559750754
play street brawl, the superior gamemode
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>>559750690
She is useless now. You need to sweat your ass off to perform moderately, you need to never make mistakes in engagements, you need to buy all the right items and when you ult most if the times you need to run. She's a complete joke compared to the most heroes. You can switch to Wraith or Calico and run the lobbies with twice less the effory
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>>559751016
street brawl feels like it plays itself and its pre determined based on team comps which are rng
not a fan, you barely get any satisfaction from winning vs the normal mode
i don't see a point to playing that instead of going my singleplayer backlog
for that coordinated multiplayer scratch only normal deadlock hits it
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So how is Kelvin doing wightbros? I stopped playing him after his initial nerfs since he was just a middling support, but in the new patch I can just be a turbo healbitch and it works out?
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charge heavy melee
look straight down
you've baited their parry and not fucked your movement by moving away
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>>559751146
Works by looking straight up too
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>>559750847
>>559750460
How do you even cheat as viscous?
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what makes someone playing rem and ivy roleplay as lane janny and steal all the team's sinners
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>>559751137
Yeah he's a dedicated healslut now
Also you can control where you place your dome
Icebeam is really good at stopping the OP movement heroes
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>>559751118
there's already so many layers to learn, you might as well just focus on street brawl till you have watched and understood standard matches or yes go back to w.e you were playing before. you clearly like something about the game, the game doesn't hand you the enjoyment of killing players, playing mind games etc without a learning curve that is also done by other players.
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>>559751272
everyone else (you included) is too retarded to do it, and it's better that i do it rather than the other team in the case of jungle
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>>559750754
It's a moba, you either learn to not crash out when things don't go your way or you are doomed to turn into a raging mess whenever you play
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They killed my boy. Everything about him is shit now
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>>559750427
My GOATs
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>>559751360
i was doing it, i even asked him to stop stealing our sinners
everytime i went to a lane ivy would go with me
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>>559751325
nigga I already know how to play the game i have 150 hours and am oracle
but im talking about the mental boom you get when you get like a hour long match that ends in a tragic loss usually due to something out of your control
no other genre pisses you off like this
wondering how moba fags usually handle it
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At how many souls should I be using my golden goose egg?

I just went an entire game without using it cause I didn't know when it maxed out, if it even does
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If you pick Apollo in a bracket where the enemy players have the sentience to buy spirit resilience instead of glass cannon then you're throwing.
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>>559751548
when you're slotlocked at any given point
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>mfw played Doorman even when he was D tier shit and now he's on the cusp of game breaking
I miss impact into bell explosions and how if you go full gun on him this patch you're retarded but it's great being able to get kills that don't rely on rushing vortex web into guardian cheese
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>>559751559
And what bracket is that?
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>>559751242
Pinpoint goo punches that always hit dead center. Didn't matter if we were behind veils or out of LOS or during messy teamfights. Was the most blatant shit I'd seen (not counting outright aimbotting) our whole team was calling him out and they were just typing shit in Chinese
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>down 30k souls
>Billy talks shit mid match
>comeback
>team spams ez in chat
Get fucked.
Holy shit fuck this vampire cunt.
But not you Drifter thank you so fucking much bro
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does mina/geist/yamato seem like a good trio to learn for carrying games while playing sexy women (yamato remodel foresight)
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PLEASE. I BEG YOU.
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>>559751652
>93k souls
>only 1 t4 item
>still 2 t1 items
Based honest drifter
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>>559751446
>complaining about SHARING LANES
do you not know that you are wasting souls by solo pushing? duo pushing basically gives 150% of the souls to your team instead of 100% because of the way it's split between players
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>>559751652
>113k drifter
>110k mina
battle of the two eternus smurfs
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Doorman players are getting uppity, send their faggot character back to trash tier and let's see how good they are at the game
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Baby what is ur boon size? (What's ur boon size)
Milk truk just arive (Big milk truk big)
Big boob gerl hai (Hai)
Hai, are u fucked at night...?
I want to kiss ur vegana (Vegana)
For two hrs and then put my one foot pinus in ur vegana
U will happy...?
Wanna kiss ur panti
Boobs are awsome, boobs are awsome
Do milk
Hi dear, can you open up ur cloth? (Open cloth)
Will you show me nice pic of your bobs? (Send bobs)
You so butifull show me ur vegana (Show vegana)
Send me naked pic, hello bitch lasagna
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>>559751637
At least you can parry those, right?
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>>559751410
get rid of that recharging rush shit, and headhunter, your gun sucks ass now. You really needed to buy healbane here
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>>559751820
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>>559751410
you just got fucking rolled it has nothing to do with dynamo lol
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>>559751467
1. Accept MOBAs are team games and recognize that if your team isn't on their shit (most games since it's random matchmaking) that you might lose because of things entirely out of your control, or you might totally throw it yourself
2. Recognize that you can learn from losses as much as wins. You're not going to steamroll to top 100 ranks without a bunch of losses inbetween. It's all part of the process.
3. Videogames are meant to be fun, and if you're not having fun you should stop playing. Furthermore, one sided stomps are usually boring and stupid but matches that are very tooth and nail, or go for long periods of time are often a ton of fun even if you lose
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>when you survive the team fight and waiting for the heat to die off
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ivy is so much fucking fun bros
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Bruh I can't fucking do anything any more. I can't teamfight, I can't solo, I can't even farm. There's no way it's just because of the patch. I've just hit a wall. I'm worse than a pub in my friend group.
Fuck me.
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>>559751934
I mean yeah but what's your point?
>Enemy is aimbotting, well at least you can just hide behind terrain to not get shot
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>Russian haze player has a minute long melty because I stepped on to the lane he was farming for 10 seconds anticipating a push by the enemy player I could see on the map
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>>559752117
Play ginnis and glue your dick to blue for 50 minutes, guaranteeing your team wins via item advantage by keeping blue walker full hp the entire match
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>>559752072
>Videogames are meant to be fun, and if you're not having fun you should stop playing.
This is the single most important thing, Deadlock doesn't even have any player retention mechanics (yet), you're not forced into a sunk cost fallacy by playing a game you hate because you spent money on it, you don't get less DeadCoins for losing matches, you didn't fail your daily missions, etc
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what's the ivy build now?
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>foreign guy kept yelling "GROWN MAN PLAYING REM" at me
>this is my pfp
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>enemy team has Calico and Wraith
is it even winnable?
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>>559752076
>me, 10 HP miku, with every spell on cooldown, sitting in my rank one heal puddle in an alley behind green tower waiting for one of the apes sieging it to notice me and dive my fat ass killing me instantly
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>>559752270
guncancer (capacitor/toxic/ricochet/inhibitor/silencer etc.) with spirit
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>>559752238
Plus even if youre getting shit stomped you can still goof around and have fun with your team, and often the other team.

The game is only ever not fun when there's some autistic loser lacking real life achievements having a meltdown on your team, and then there's the handy dandy mute button
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Movement trannies will ruin this game
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i enjoy the game even if im dying quite a bit.. not because its intentional, but i am also gaining self awareness
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>>559752137
It's always russians. I really appreciate when I'm playing someone like Victor and my lane partner says they'll leave when lane ends but screaming at someone for coming to farm? Actually childish

Had a game where our team had a leaver but our russian drifter literally SCREAMED at me when I showed up to help him in a 2v1 "FOOK OFF I NEED SOLO FAAM". He basically argued with our russian 0/9 victor all game about farming despite the fact we were down a player
>I AM VEEKTOR I NEED FARM.
>VEEKTOR YOU ARE DOG LEAVE MY LANE
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>>559750424
I think I'd rather play and spam tranny slurs in chat
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>>559752117
Same man. Every game I look at my creeping death count and just think, "genuinely what am I missing? How am I the weak link in every game?"
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>>559751694
please respond
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>>559752725
uhh so play them and come back with your next report?
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>Apollo wears bling to cover his tail
>Infernus probably stuffs it in his pants
>Abrams leaves it out for everyone to see like a fucking whore
cover it up slut
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>>559752725
Why do you feel inclined to have a sexy woman represent you? Is there something else on your mind?
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>>559752874
i like looking at sexy women and i want to draw fanart of characters i play
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>most unbalanced patch ever
>somehow gaining back players with it
bros?...
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>>559752725
only if all of you buy goose eggs and then crack your egg both ingame and irl :3
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did they make people typing gg play the good game voice lines now?
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I to this day have yet to see a good Holliday player. Fucker is more rare than Sinclair.
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>>559751694
>>559752725
Geist is my most played hero and there are way better options for carrying games IMO. Of course I don't know what rank you are, assuming your in Asc+ like most of the general I think she doesn't influence the game as much as other heroes. She scales well into the late game but not as good as others. So she lacks a potent early game to create a lead (like Mina) nor does she take off late game like other carries.

She's more a consistent all rounder. Good at taking objectives but easily punished. A good duelist but not the best. Good at longer fights but bad a complete head to heads
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>>559752924
Look at the OP image, this is your standard reaction to an Icefrog patch
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Calico nerfs when
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>>559753064
holliday is fun, not good
you go wheeeee and spam barrels all day
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>>559752317
What team was he on?
If he's on the enemy team, make sure to take all of their sinners and target him specifically with the pillows
If he's on yours just ignore him and never give him any heals
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>>559750686
>>559751097
I know bringing up l*ague is a bad idea but I do feel like if anything she should be more in line with old Vladimir, who was also a mage that used his own health for spells.
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>>559753032
gg ty and something else i forgot
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>>559752924
>Easy to play braindead nigger heroes are buffed into niggerhood
>Niggers come back to play because they can now be carried once more by nigger heroes.
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>>559752556
I think the game is inherently more fun than other mobas even when you're losing just be the virtue of being more mechnically engaging. Using WASD, shooting a gun, jumping around, it's more inherently fun than just clicking to move and auto attacking.
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>>559751953
cute!
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>>559752924
Fun > balance, every time

>>559753304
>>Easy to play braindead nigger heroes are buffed into niggerhood
Silver was nerfed thoughbeit, and that's the easiest to play character there is
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I can't stop gooning to Mina...
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>>559753118
>assuming your in Asc+ like most of the general
haha i'm archon 4...
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>>559753464
to what bro she has 0 porn
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>lane against Wraith and Doorman
>on 180 ping
thanks matchmaking
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lash kinda looks like a ftm
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>>559751953
graves sniffs apollos jacket
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where's the Celeste pinups
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>>559753287
wp
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>>559753814
oh there it is
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>>559753697
looks good enough to me
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I need a new person to play. Who should I try?
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>>559753902
>tumblr toothgap
die
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>>559753902
>this is the dev team's favorite hero
grim
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>caught myself beginning to have maniacal gay twink giggles and laughs when nonsensical plays and situations happens
is this the moba effect?
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>three (3 (trois)) players jungling
>lanes are pushed to our base
Am I missing something? I was under the impression that lane creeps give more souls than neutrals and the latter should only really be taken during lane rotations/unsafe lanes/if lanes are pushed up to the enemy (and the neutrals are the enemies'). Why in the name of god are Paige, Infernus, and Yamato at our own neutrals when our lanes have been pushed back so far and the enemy team is at mid?
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>"METABUILD 51% WINRATE TTV.FAGGOT"
yawn
Give me some fun build names or I will not use your nerd shit.
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>Haven't seen an Infernus yet in my games
>Decide to play him
Uhm... guys? This dude is fucking strong as fuck why is no one playing him?
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>>559753936
any character under 800 or so is unfappable trash
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>>559754017
the only hero that actively makes me laugh while playing as is mister welcome to the baroness

this one time I literally just had an ivy runthrough my doors into our walker and die entirely by her own impetus
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>>559754118
I honestly don't know. His damage is gnarly now with low investment.
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>>559754118
Because he's boring as fuck M1 nigger
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>>559754118
Because Wraith does exactly what Infernus does but better.
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>>559753118
so do you think she's a bad hero rn? because it feels like yamato occupies that same tanky off-carry archetype but yamato seems way better?
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ROLLING GOO!
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>>559754118
hes boring af
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>>559753902
>Only part of celeste that's genuinely beautiful is her face
>They ruin it by making her look like a tranny jew
I dont understand these people
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>>559753458
>easiest to play character there is
In wood elo they take much longer to learn to just walk away or jump on the rope. The real problem was the "pro"s giving them the idea that she was OP. And so, instead of just learning to use their keyboard, it was simply easier to cry out loud about how op the hero that you can literally zip away from in her face.
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I havent seen a single billy go positive since the balence patch
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>>559754118
i dont play black characters, simple as
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I knew when I suddenly got healed by Healing Nova as this guy's 2nd item bought in lane I was in for a loss. Nigger even hopped on mic to say "bro you're muted" when I asked him wtf this build was.
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>>559754118
>calico and wraith are still more overpowered than infernus

that's it

that's literally it
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Sad, miserable, temporarily embarrassed, down-on-her-luck werewolf...
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>>559753464
She only fucks dogs so human men like us are out of luck.
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Give me a fun new character to try.
Is Kelvin, Ivy, or Rem fun?
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>>559754619
no
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>>559754619
Kelvin is fun. Build spirit/green support and clownskate everywhere
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>>559754513
LETS SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO
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Literally how do they determine to do this? I report maybe 1/4 games when people have clearly given up and are not trying at all and still got hit with this shit. I also report blatant smurfs that never get banned
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>>559754513
Don't underestimate Green Abrams... He's going to pop off soon, trust
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Finally some unique Mina art
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>>559754513
Healslut Abrams
Healslut Abrams is real
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>>559754513
>>559754736
>>559754817
GREEN ABRAMS IS REAL
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how to not get mindbroke by having terrible losses in a row
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>graves is only good in street brawl now
sigh...
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>>559754890
Mina skins can't come soon enough
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>>559753464
her boobs do not look like this
but i would not complain if they did
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https://files.catbox.moe/v7n45f.mp4
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And just like that everyone went from crying about melee venator being OP to not a peep. Meanwhile I'm still smacking bitches in the lord's name.
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>>559754890
>>559755085
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did previous vote have one too?
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>>559755282
yes, mine is next to the new one
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>>559755085
I'm a big fan of Mina thematically but I hate how gimmicky her gameplay is, stay on the fringes of fights firing ur annoying gun to proc passive all the time in the gayest ways, and if u get close u get insta deleted unless u saved the blinks
I wish she was less of a gimmick and more of just a standard scaling mage...
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>>559754017
any time i land a dirty snipe or i see someone hiding behind a tiny sign as soon as i start flying i begin giggling and cackling while my sightlines instill the fear of god in people
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>>559754619
yes yes no
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This patch is so boring everything dies too fast, players and objectives.
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>>559755540
Good. Fuck 50 minute slogfests.
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I'm a noob but doesn't mina seem omega nerfed?
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>>559755013
Purchase a VPN to switch to NA for non subhuman players.
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>graves skulls are instakilled by melee and guns and her wall does fuckall and her ghouls are easily killed and she dies if you look her direction and she has no m1 range or m1 damage
>but uhhhhhhhhhhh calico and wraith are fine and allowed to exist like this
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>>559755540
thats good, I've been having my first sub 20 minutes stomps for the first time in a long time
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>>559755146
she didn't say this wtf
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>main doorman ever since he released
>suddenly don't feel like playing him now that he's retardedly strong
What's wrong with me
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>>559755793
Reminder that there are actually people who seethed about Graves being OP in these threads
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I'm rem!
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>>559751281
lucky apollo
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>>559756052
you have severe retardation
if anything nows the best time in order to prevent fotm slurpers from playing him
(me, I didn't even touch the doors ability, I just spam cart and bell)
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>>559756052
same, i only play low tiers due to a pride fueled inferiority complex
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expect mo and krill nerfs soon
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>>559756052
Dude I just had a 0/8/3 Doorman on my team who didn't buy a single purple, please I need Hitler Doormen on my team
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>>559753464
I want to eat a ton of garlic and then kiss her
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>>559756076
cancer to play against if she's in your face with inhibitor and silencer and ricochet and all that? sure

overpowered at any given point? lmao fuck no
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Alright, give me a build that lets me rape with my Ult and then still be useful with my gun when ult is down. Are there any builds in game right now that help with that? Or hell, just give me a few gun items that help me out over all.
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>>559756052
>What's wrong with me
Nothing, because playing overpowered characters is boring as fuck
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>>559755201
melee venator is just abhrams but worst in every way
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>>559756302
I eat a lot regardless
>tfw could never date a vamp bitch because I literally eat garlic daily
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>win 2 games in a row
>state mandated loss

sad.
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>>559756458
Venator is cooler tho
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>>559756227
Yeah Mo can fucking carry, tank, and combo now all at the same time.
He does way too much fucking damage for his kit.
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>>559753464
I want to BE Mina!
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what if you could magic carpet during mcginnes ult
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>>559756354
I run spirit shredder bullets to pretend I'm helping when on cooldowns. But in reality it's to prep the enemy for lighting-scroll ult cheese.
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>>559756354
for miku or what
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>>559756354
just get like tit mag and tesla
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>>559756814
literal carpet bomber
>>559756907
Not entirely interested in pretending, I'd prefer being able to deal real damage, but I know that sort of thing is basically even more difficult now that her gun was nerfed again
>>559756914
yes miku, safe to assume given the pic
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>one retard on your team that always hovers around mid to brool baiting the entire team into dying at blue walker
fuck oracle rank
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>hydration didnt die once
yoshi nerf mo
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hmm, 20mb update?
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>>559757246
shoulda rotated faster
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>>559754181
Baroness man is a fucking looney toons character with the amount of retarded shit you can get into
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>mo is op and rapes every match
>calico is op and rapes every match
>wraith is op and rapes every match
>victor is op and rapes every match
i just imagine icefrogyoshi and his 15 developer fags all sitting in valves offices laughing their asses off at the rage this patch caused
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>>559752317
Rem is LITERALLY me. I'm sorry, but it's just the truth.
>t. 35y/o
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>>559757270
20mb of racism towards wraith
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jesus christ the public builds are all garbage
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>Doorman
Retarded unfun ult
>Graves
Heatseeking skeletons
>Celeste
Tranny OC
>Drifter
Pepperspray ult

>Paige
Grenades and traps
>Venator
Grenades and traps

Why are most of the new heroes generic as shit compared to the starting lineup, has IceFrog lost his creativity. What's with the push towards counterspell niggery, why not utilize the movement shooter aspect of the game for balancing instead of this shit
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>>559754230
His damage has always been gnarly with low investment.
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>>559757140
sometimes it doesn't feel like enough sadly
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>>559755201
Honestly the only guys I really have problems with in this game is the two black girls and Victor, everyone else is just a different flavor of acceptable bullshit to me
Oh and Paige because that dumb cunt is always always in a smurf stack on the enemy team or actually retarded on your team
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>>559757302
M&K and Victor are fine. They kinda overdid it with Calico so I agree with you but Wraith just need some numbers ajustments not a downright assassination, the frog somehow manage to make her actually fun now and it would be a shame if she bites the dust.
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>>559757404
paige has no grenades or traps, how is the rest even generic
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>>559754118
Uhh, NUH UH, he's not strong he only has 41% win rate.
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>>559757404
Calling Paige's stun a trap is a little silly. I do think that designwise they really need to steer away from AOE grenades. There's almost no skill involved, it's just throw in the general direction of your target. Most of them are so fast they are undodgeable since the AOEs are so large.
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>>559757579
Victor is not fine at all, agreed on mo though
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>>559752202
I've never been good at the archetype of character (TF2 for instance).
Laning against her is definitely aids though. Last match I had was an Abrams and a McGinnis, and I was sweating BULLETS hahahHAHEHAEH
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>>559755282
it's the same sticker only no new patrons and solely green
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>there are people ITT responding to ">lust provoking image" level b8 unironically
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>>559757579
>Victor are fine
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>>559757404
doorman isnt generic
graves is the girlfriend character
celeste is also not generic
drifter isnt generic
i dont like paige a ton i dont think shes a grenade/trap hero but she does feel kind of generic
venator is a bit generic i guess
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what were the consensus first round bans and picks in today's torunament
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>>559757579
>M&K is fine
lol
>Victor is fine
LOL
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Funny thing about Calico is she wasn't even bad before, people just didn't play her because she has the least appealing design in the game so Yoshi was probably like "wow nobody plays her guess she needs a big buff".
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>>559757869
A devs favorite child
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Why does Paige 1 do so little damage?
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>>559757795
it's all over the place
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is stalker good on ivy?
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>>559757781
To clarify I didn't mean all the characters were generic but either they're generic (rehash of old hero abilities that don't really mesh well), have very annoying abilities that aren't even fun to use or somewhere in-between.

Sinclair, Victor, Rem, Billy & Apollo have some decent kits but the previous mentions are some fairly shite ones
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>>559757854
What's wrong with MNK? I skimmed the changes and it seemed like most of his abilities got their cooldown reduction pushed to T3 which means he's stuck waiting on all his longass cooldowns until the end of the game.
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>>559758057
backstab was really good idk about stalker but it's probably okay
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genuinely what the fuck is up with the amount of victor downplayers

you're playing an op as fuck niggertier hero that's the most dishonest in the entire game
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>vyper rushes alone and dies twice in lane phase
>ditches me and spends the whole game in jungle
>manage to fight the 2v1 on my own for like 6 minutes
jesus
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Punch Viscous feels evil. But a justified evil, because if it wasn't me doing it it would just be somebody else. I'm the good guy sparing my team from playing against it.
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>>559758174
post patch punch viscous is the most fun ive had so far
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>>559757869
I already seethed vs calicos before the buff now it's 10x worse if you ever lose a lane to her she just rapes anyone alone for free and snowballs even harder due to the epic free souls on TIER FUCKING TWO
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>>559758124
>muh honesty
Just say you don't like the character you fuck
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paradox is impossible to get good damage numbers on
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>>559754309
It depends on what you consider bad. Some people consider any hero that can't 1v11 as bad.

Yamato is certainly better at late game tanking. It depends how useful that is in the current meta (always useful). Yamato's weakness though is that you can't really build her gun like you can Geist
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>>559757314
I love sleep
I love birds
But Rem is a terror ingame
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>>559758227
and you're a subhuman nigger
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Vindicta getting extra souls because of her ult was too powerful, but Calico is allowed to have that shit on a regular skill T2, and she doesn't even need to kill the target with it
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>>559758124
because this is the average victor
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i respect zp for being around forever but god hes so annoying bro
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>>559758384
>throws around meaningless terms to sound smart on a mongolian basketweaving forum
>"but, uh, you're the subhuman.... yeah..."
Keep yourself safe
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>have one good match
>immediately dropped into an unplayable 200 ping seamonkey shithole lobby
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>>559757854
victor is the easiest to counter IF your entire team buys heal reduction.
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>>559758112
MNK scorn scaling and combo DPS got buffed really well (scorn is like .42 -> .75 scaling now) and all his favorite items got buffed too.
Burrow does more damage now at t2.
Combos Tiers are now better and by the end of it all.
Combo is basically a kill now even without teammates.
He does great damage and is still a massively tanky hero with an amazing stun ult.
Literally expect his WR to either blow up or for him to be FP/FB all the time this Wednesday too.
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>>559758452
I don't disagree with you but I feel like every other one of the commentators are equally or more annoying
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I love smurfs.
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>>559758758
Enable average team rank display cowards.
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>wall exists
>no counterplay to venator
what a nigger of a hero
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>>559758871
how bout
move yourself out of the way
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>>559758601
the rest are actually good at the game so i don't mind
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>>559758089
paige does not have grenades or traps retardbro. her sword is a classic AOE root
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>Playing as vic vs a Celeste and Vindy lane
>Go 4/0/5 in lane
>Lose T1 tower first
>Vindy and Celeste nonstop hunt me in the jungle
>Kill me once
>Vindy calling me a crybaby and poor vic in all chat, even though I never spoke
>They get the first step of the patron
>we come back from having no T3 towers and win immediately after
>Type poor vindy
>Disconnects before victory screen
This is why I play victor, the ragers give me energy
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>>559758919
there is basically no where on the map where you can stand that venator can't blast you in a direction to stun you
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>>559758868
Where do I go to do that. I enabled it but can I not see it for this match?
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>>559759041
and if you jump over him, what will you be stunned into? you're one of those people that play like jump dash doesn't exist
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>>559757869
This is exactly the same phenomenon as Grey Talon who is also overpowered right now (and has been for ages, he didn't even get any changes in this patch). Nobody plays him because he's a fugly DEI grandma but Yoshi thinks it's because he's not good so he buffs him over and over.
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>>559758758
genuinely what is your build
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>>559758868
>>559759159
Oh, here.
>>559759220
Tried the beam carry build in build brower
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>>559758984
Are they? Half the time they're exposing how little they actually play the game. All 3 of them are the same
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visc is OP. what do I do with him? I avoid Doorman and get a doorman and visc. GG
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>fucks off during the lane phase
>doesn't exist for 35 minutes and stays in jungle all game
>by the time they're built and ready to help the enemy team has already snowballed due to the 5v6 and destroy her anyway
Bravo
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>>559759336
parry as soon as you hear his goo punch noise
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>>559757869
>>559758212
There's literally fucking nothing you can do against this character. She's a character that demands 2 or 3 counters midgame, which is already irrelevant because she was unstoppable in the early game which means she's snowballed too far ahead of everyone so now she can steal every single farm on your side and just fucking kill anyone who tries to use a sinner's on their own side and have her ult ready to fucking kill the next person at the next sinner's
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>>559759302
Bebop was a smurf but your team sucked too
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>>559759302
Why would you go tank buster in a beam build?
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ZP was a competitive Tribes Ascend player once upon a time...
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>>559759426
>has multiple movement ablities including a free eshift
>can scout around as an unhittable cat to make sure she always engages only when she wants to
>is already a momentum hero but now gets extra souls per kill
>can go through tunnels for even more bullshit ganking angles
kekaroo
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>>559759441
I thought if I paired it with infuser it'd help do more damage
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>>559758452
>>559758601
>>559758984
ZP's generally fine but sometimes his casting is retardedly duds. Like bringing up yuri ships mid-game was actually cringe worthy.
But one of his fellow castors kept bringing up "riposte's" pronounciation like 5 different times and every time it was like "Dude just shut the fuck up."
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>all the doorman tourists stealing my main
fuck off. you did NOT suffer like ME
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>>559752317
Who cares i love this little nigga. Hes so fun
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>>559759526
What the fuck was Yoshi thinking with this buff. It's the most blatant favoritism I've ever seen. Not only is this a character that could easily get extra souls from killing people at the farms, she apparently needed another helping of extra souls from those kills as well. Pants on head retarded.
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what would drive someone to buy extra charge on venator instead of recharging rush
I feel like if you buy even a single purple item on him you're making a mistake
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>>559759786
his nades are good
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>tfw have to make own ivy build because everything public is unusable
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>>559759786
nades are strong, traps are strong and it's easy to get stragglers around a checkpoint lost in the chaos of a teamfight
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>>559759852
that's why you get recharging rush though
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>>559752859
I think infernus and other firebenders are supposed to be a different Ixian race, possibly without tails. They may be the niggers of Ixia which would explain his parents moving out at first chance and not csring to connect him to his heritage. Would also explain his coldness to Apollo
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>>559759907
yeah recharging rush gives you extra grenades and traps
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>>559752859
I'm not convinced infernus is an ixian
I'm convinced hes some other thing and just going with it when people assume he is
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>finally grind up to phantom 2
>My team mates are still fucking retarded but now the enemy can aim

Shit.
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>>559759998
not as much
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>>559756052
>the character I played since release got the damage he had at release back
>"hm this feels like a little too op"
fake main
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>>559752859
Infernus stuffs it up his asshole
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>>559760053
Don't worry, the enemy players are still retarded as fuck even if they can suddenly aim now. Play a spirit nuker and enjoy when the entire enemy team refuses to buy spirit resilience and prefers to die to you over and over.
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>>559752924
I just found out about it the other day. I am a Dota 2 beta oldtroon with 3k+ hours... I saw I already had an invite and jumped on, I'm having fun with the mole guy in streetbrawl.

I think it was some youtube gamer slop video I watched that got me interested.
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>>559760159
Counters are a fucking meme.
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doorman is just another marvel rivals slop hero
>spam abilities to win
>hit a "skill" shot where the enemy is standing completely still from your ult
thats it lol
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>>559760246
t. seeker who buys glass cannon as his first item and wonders why he dies in 1 hit
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>>559759578
I let shit like that slide because caster's job is to yap and sometimes you just pull the first thing that comes to your head to avoid silence.
Compared to some other e-sports casters he's on a better side of bringing up cringe shit to fill the air.
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>>559759875
wander's build is supposedly good for gun ivy
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Serious question: what do you do to calm down after getting pissed off in this game
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ddk is the best deadlock caster just like he was the best cs caster just like he was the best quake caster
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>>559759914
I have a pet theory that maybe his parents are war criminals who fled Ixia and trying to erase their past, which is why they haven't taught Infernus anything about Ixia.
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>>559759875
>grab all purple damage
>buy stalker and healing nova
it's not that hard
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>>559760436
imo sometimes you need silence for people to focus on the game and not your voice.
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>>559760159
im in shitlo and everyone still builds spirit res.......
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>>559760590
what's the point of stalker for ivy? genuine question im retarded
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>>559760526
take a lap outside and get some sun on your skin
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>>559760669
By the time anyone can buy Spirit Res, the match is already decided. The soul lead is already established, objectives already lost.
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>>559760526
realize it's a valve game, realize that there are other shooters to waste my time in if i want to such as overwatch, realize that i can go jerk off instead and feel better
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>>559760526
rest my head betwixt my wife's bosom
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>finally at the rank where people know how to play from behind and can turn games around
thank god
oracle 3 if anyone else is looking for a ray of hope

Their yamato had like 17 kills and was running us down every time she had ult but we managed to get the boss at key times and kill her team before she killed us and won. I bet she was seething she had 102k damage. New yamato kinda goes harder than apollo imo
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>>559760796
pisslow mentality. I bet you're one of the leaguebabs begging valve to add forfeiture to the game. All it takes is one good team fight turnaround to completely shift the momentum of the game and close the soul gap. This is why you're hard stuck arcanist btw.
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>>559760526
lift weights
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Why isn't point blank good on Graves?
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Can someone please post the old "mina ha AAAAA" voice line?
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>>559759786
I get both so I can shit out nades and traps constantly
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>Mirage in my game baffled at how much his character was nerfed
>Someone starts saying he was buffed
>Check Mirage's winrate
>Literally worst hero in the game
How can this playerbase be so bad at the game?
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>>559760705
wallhacks and movespeed let you chase rape and dot applies mystic procs for free, with this patch you don't even have to aim with it
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>>559760980
he's only buffed if you have the game sense to avoid ganks as he doens't get a get out of jail free card anymore. so nerfed for 90% of the playerbase
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>>559760526
I don't get pissed off at the game. it's a game
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>mirage gets a stun, NP teleport, and recast on tornado
>but the playerbase is full of shitters

lol
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WHERE CAN I ALSO SUGGEST SOME COOL THINGS TO THE DEVS? Do they even listen?

I want to remove the time bomb from Paradox, to make her current ult to be her first, and then give her an uktimate ability to stop time.

I also want Yamato to slash thru her enemies during her ult like Celest's ball but faster
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>>559760935
That's not even relevant to the current patch at all. All theoretical, no examples of that even being possible at all. The matchups decide the result.
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mirage was nerfed as he is a dirty a-rab and we americans are at war with those arabs now. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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>>559761224
t. Seeker meta scientist

The only constant is you, shitter.
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>>559761293
what happened to these two soldiers for Allah
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>>559761297
If they have Calico with a soul lead, they win. Simple as that. If you lane against Calico, you lose. Simple as that.
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>>559761293
You play Mirage? I've never played, there are so many good heroes, really beauriful heroes, like Lady Geist and Bebop. I play Lady Geist, in fact I really like Lady Geist, she's great.
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>>559760796
its not that expensive.................
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>>559761176
>Do they even listen?

you must become a discord kitten first
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>>559761414
Are you really going to try to buy it as your first fucking item? Or are you buying it because you're desperate not to lose
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I pick random every game and still get the same 4 or 5 characters every time
Random chads should have top priority for character picks
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>enemy team has lash/seven/vindica/talon etc
>no one builds anvil
>have to waste a slot on anvil
Fucking build anvil you lazy faggots I'm tired of being the designated anti-air guy
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>>559761483
probably like 3rd or 4th depending on what the enemy comp is
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>>559761176
well that's a bit different from an animator liking your idea and changing a small thing he has full control over
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>>559761176
Go to discord, put on transgender flag, complain that certain features are transphobic. It works 100% of the time
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>>559761176
you'll have more of a shot swapping silver's parry animation for a sex minigame than all that
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>>559760652
Casting works on radio rules, more than 5-seconds of dead air is a no-no and all the cringy jokes and shitty analysis usually lands on downtime, where there is nothing really to focus on. You can't just shut the fuck up for 5 minutes while both teams autistically clear jungle.

Even if you watch professional commentary of the giga autistic sports like curling or darts there is never more than 5 seconds of silence.
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R8 my roster /dlg/
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>Doorman ults
>Escape in a microsecond
>3 bells into cart into portal waiting for me
>Steal his freshly buffed ultimate
>Call assistant and guide two max distance bolts right where he'll pop back
>My cooldown is way lower
I win again
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>>559762037
>scalie
>furry
>ayy-sian
disgusting
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>>559761050
He's below 40% winrate in Eternus.
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I am awful at this game. Who can I play
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>>559762037
you triggered a remfurryfagcuck with it so i'd say it's alright
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>>559762145
where is rems 36 inch penis in this one?
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>>559762156
Wraith
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>>559762156
mo and skill
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Legitimately all it takes is for one retard to just keep running it down with no resists and grey talon becomes the most obnoxious cunt in the entire game to deal with
>JUST BUY 6.4K SPELLBREAKER TO DODGE ONE INSTANCE BWO
>pumps you with 4 of these with spirit burn + mystic reverb + tank buster procs in literally 2.8s
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>>559762156
My friend with the aim of a retarded child can play abrams
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>>559750328
After playing a couple games I don't think they actually did anything to apollo whatsoever and I feel like im being gaslight by retards who don't play the game and only rebuttal is buying shit like it's a guarantee
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>>559762287
LOVE THIS CHAMP
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>>559762506
slowing hex bro
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They wanna wake the beast, that's my problem
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>>559757381
Why do people draw that butterface pig like she was hot? Her face is ugly and her hair looks greasy and unwashed.
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>>559762552
lowk my favorite hero to play also nyx assassin is my fav dota hero
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Holy fuck the pedo heroes wraith and viscous are in every single brawl match now
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Serious question, are they going to leave bebop as is?
It seems like while his kit is annoying as shit, it doesn't perform as anything more than a one-trick with a serious lack of synergy.
Despite that people love bombing shit even if it's all they can do.
So, here's my think - wouldn't it be better to overhaul bebop around melee damage and hooks and give his 2 to someone else?
An annoying jihadi tunnel rat that deals in explosives and subterfuge perhaps?
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>>559762584
I want to ride her massive futa cock
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>>559761114
Go ahead. Play him if he's so good.
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>>559760823
Holy shit this could've been boho. Anyways... SEX!!!
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I had to uninstall for my own sanity I pumped way too many hours since the lastest character patch.
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>>559762578
Literally does nothing
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>>559762404
I just played a match our bepop didn't want to swap to lane with grey talon, game didn't went well I tell you that much but they also had victor and rem so maybe it wouldn't have changed much
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>>559762778
Delete his bomb just so every bebop main will an hero. It’s the most annoying part of his kit
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>>559762404
>>559762863
the moment gray talon gets a remotely better design his pick rate will skyrocket like fucking crazy, had he been a hot sexy cute girl people he'd end up having a 90% pick rate i promise you
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Oh, god, NOT AGAIN
>*shapeshifts into a melee creep and gets 200 HP back*
>*leaps away from the fight*
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>>559762946
this exact scenario is going to happen on the yamato remodel
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>>559762145
I like how I can immediately tell when an artist makes weird furry porn
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>>559762793
Paige...
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>>559762989
hey, that's the sound her eggs make!
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>>559762778
Delete his bomb.
Make it a stun that scales with spirit power.
Delete his ult.
Replace it with making his heavies unparryable that scale with melee damage. Each heavy landed resets cooldown on his new 2 the stun
Enjoy :)
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anyone else getting hitching and stuttering mid-match? the last few days my game becomes unplayable sometimes.
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I think this patch has done nothing to help the game whatsoever and im outright about to just quit the game.
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>Lightbringer on stream:
>"Silver is good when built into spirit but people are not ready to talk about it"
Pros would literally shove square peg into round hole instead of admitting that hero is shit now.
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>26min game
>3 enemy walkers alive
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>>559763205
>Pros are in full cope mode and just trying to slam generic busted items on her hoping it fixes the bad kit
You love to see it.
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>>559763205
>spirit silver
How about "buff silver" instead
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>>559763205
all she needed was a 60-80 second ult nerf and she would have been perfect for this balance patch
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>>559762778
>hook enemy towards you
>flying uppercut
>big punch enemy away from you
>ultimate his firing mode changes to rockem sockem robots and allows you to still execute his skills
>make him scale with ballistic
he should contrast lash
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>>559762778
his bomb just needs counterplay
hook is fine honestly, maybe needs range adjustments or something
there's loads of stuff they can do though and since nobody asked here's my suggestons
- hook has a small delay(like 1s or even .5s) before you actually lose control; if the hooked person isn't in line of sight then they aren't pulled; people can spend stam to get out of los and dodge hook, compensate with skill upgrades and reduced hook cdr if it fails
- bomb damage and aoe scales off of distance travelled, bomb'd unit can stand still to heavily reduce damage or bebop can bomb an allied unit and they can warp in, or the traditional creep uppercut bombs deal more damage
- if one of your allies get bombed you can heavy melee them to defuse it

like there's a billion fucking things they could do to change him but they're just being too wimpy to do anything because they don't want the heckin robot fans to be upset because he got changed
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>>559763307
No bro just build 20k of spirit items on top of her required base items and don't forget positioning :) and smart engagement :)
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>>559760980
>nerfed bullet dmg
>made tornado from 1second lift to 0.3s
>marks take longer to stack
>no unstop on ult
>can't tp underground
Where are the buffs exactly?
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>>559763458
And hands
Can't forget hands
You gotta have hands to play her, remember
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I am so fucking done with apollo and now doorman. Holy shit I have never encountered two of the most annoying characters to play against in my life. "buh buh buy counter bro" I do that and they still suck to play against. Go cope in the discord about it.
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>>559763615
welcome to deadlock where 90% of the roster will have you rolling your fucking eyes
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>give lane swap
>two retard friends are feeding like crazy

every damn time
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>/dlg/ before patch
>games are too long hour long games scare away casuals
>old heroes are shit and powercrept
>we need patch yesterday, yoshi!
>/dlg/ after patch
>fuck this everything dies too quickly i hate it
>fuck this old heroes are op i hate it
>why even release a patch, yoshi?
Admit it (You) don't care about patch or balance (You) just want to bitch and moan
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>>559763615
>doesn't buy greens
>doesn't buy slowing hex
>WAAAAH, I AM SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY THIS GAME
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>get a rem graves lane as Holliday
>not only have to deal with fucking exploding zombies but i have to deal with buffed troopers AND two other people
what the fuck do they want me to do here?!
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Shh....Rem is throwing.
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>>559763782
Play somebody other than the looney tunes sheriff
Also buy monster rounds and kill the buffed troopers.
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>Runs up to you
>Waves his sword around your face like a faggot
>"Playtime"
>*SHWING* *SHWING* *SHWING*
>Riposte your slowing hex
>ITALYS LOST HAND
How do you respond without sounding mad
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>>559763851
his butt on my dick???
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>>559763925
abandon match
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>>559763925
STONE FORM!
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>>559763702
Fuck I even use disarm on apollo and it literally DOESN'T DO ANYTHING
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>>559763974
Wtf
Rem belongs to me
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/dlg/ be like
>Buying Counterspell Spirit Resilience Slowing Hex Stamina Mastery every single match is good game design, actually
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Marry Lady Geist
Fuck Graves
Kill Haze
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>enemy mo and krill combos your vindicta out of the sky with magic carpet
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>>559764005
>*Riposte your stone form*
>Rapes you afterwards
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am i supposed to go gun graves or spirit graves
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Mcginnis 6 turrents set in her healing things doing damage and slowing me and slowing my fire rate and healing the whole time and lowering my dps LOL thats great for this game really fun
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>Holliday is low tier
>Now Silver is also low tier
Trainwrecks stick together
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>>559763769
I accept your concession and your lack of a rebuttal. You people are a broken record that can't admit when something ain't right.
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I know whining about Celeste is old news, but I don't really know how to deal with this broad in lane. You can't push because she just AoEs and noaims the shit out of you and the wave. You can't defend because she just AoEs and noaims from medium distance and can mince away. You can't run away because she can outrun and maneuver you.
Fuk.
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>doorman ult
>max duration echo shard cube
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>>559764030
I wonder if people like this refuse to buy boots or blink dagger
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>>559763965
where's the best character
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>>559764030
Do you instead want to buy damage item, damage item, damage item and damage item with no variation every single game? Retard.
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What is the Metal Skin equivalent for spirit damage? I wanna pop it so i can kill mcnigger turrets but I cant seem to find it on the store
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>>559763851
this fucking asshole has the audacity to sleep after stealing all my fucking money
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>>559764030
Good luck counterbuy in when you're on the receiving end of a snowball, they still have walkers so you have no slots, they're ahead on souls so they have more damage, and they control the map so you can't farm. But nooo let's not solve that, let's just make a retarded balance patch
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>>559764228
opposed to green item, green item, green item, and green item with no variation
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>>559764249
just buy that barrier that triggers on spirit damage
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>>559763925
>"Get 'em, Maurice!"
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>Paradox is the new Ivy
I just lost a game to the double bomb carpet rat strat. Why in the fuck the Bombs hit so fucking hard us beyond me
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>>559764249
>if I say a whataboutism I win
This is your brain on huffing counterbuy copium
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>>559764030
>t left to right buyer
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>>559764354
I think you have me confused for someone else. So what is the item called anyway?
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>>559764202
>blink dagger
Not bought on every hero
>boots
There are several different boots
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>>559764249
things that are different are different
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>>559764214
Here you go, anon
Although, i do not know why you posted that flatfaced faggot
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>>559764402
And there are several different mobility and counter items, fancy that!
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>>559764214
based
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So there is none? Maybe I should play AOE spam spiritniggers from now on...
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>mfw actually got the funny cart into base combo off on two people but one was a Victor that gave no fucks about the damage and somehow managed to kill a Mina that was buying items and apparently was too retard to notice she was taking damage
Guess I'll just stick to bell spam here on out
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>>559764146
Her AoE and projectiles are slow as shit
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>>559758758
Bonus points when you call them out on stacking too and they reply with "I'm solo queue!" and they're on one another's friends list
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>>559764589
Cartnapping has always been a meme unless you're just using it to secure midboss
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>>559764748
I love that shit happens in DBD and Overwatch as well
>erm actually chud stacks arent op or anything we're just friends man we're chilll
>oh but if you call me out on it i'll deny and deflect cause OBVIOUSLY being in a stack doesnt give you an advantage
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>>559764030
I wish i could buy active reload every game
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>>559762946
It's funny you mention that. I posted this a month ago.
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the amount of people who don't know how to fight MK is astounding
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>>559763360
yeah idk who the fuck is balancing but they're terrible. only concern was the uptime.
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There is no time to farm with two walkers getting pushed in at once
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Did they revert Vindicta's gun sound
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>>559764895
only reason his pick rate isn't the lowest is because he's strong
ugly old man with shit personality
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>>559764967
Theyre using AI to balance
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If I open a build and this isn't the first item I see, I'm not using it
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Raw, risky, reckless impregnation sex with Silver.
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>>559764967
>>559765058
>They've never played an icefrog game before

He's not an AI, he is just the fun/balance master.
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>>559765058
Why not, they used AI to determine what matchmaking algorithm to use. I'm not making this up.
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>>559764314
But that's false because you mentioned 3 green items and a purple, and none of those items have the same function at all unlike "do more damage"
Retard!
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>>559765021
>get behind
>team mates are permanently hard pushing in waves into unsafe places but never actually committing to a push ever
>all jungle is taken
>all boxes are taken
>all sinners are taken
legitimately what is the work around? these retards never hold waves.
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>>559764754
It's a meme but it's such fun looney toons shit I feel obligated to try it regardless
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>>559765117
silver is for mina ONLY
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>>559765253
Yeah that's my second name
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>ugliest character in the game
>noone actually likes them
>people only play them when theyre an overtuned uninteractive burst assassin that cant be punished without perfect team coordination
>yoshi still proceeds to buff her and then have to immediately nerf her multiple times in a row
>this time he gave her free souls on kill too
When will he learn and just delete this nigger from the game?
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>>559752317
they live in third world shitholes they're just jealous of your whimsy bro
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>>559764895
Grey Talon unironically made me quit the game back when there were 4 lanes and I had to solo go against him as he flew 9000 feet in the air doing 3 quintillion damage to me i just said fuck it and only recently started playing the game again
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Is Seven good or bad now?
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I play bebop.

I hate trannies, poorfags, and homosexuals.
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>>559765480
you like ebony women though right?
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>>559765459
they removed inherent spirit scaling from Heroes and buffed all his numbers to compensate but they went overboard and now hes really strong.
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Dynamo is a free lane every time
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>>559764030
I feel like counterbuying is something you should do to deny a key player or when you're facing someone with more money than you.
Instead some heroes require you to counterbuy regardless of how much advantage they have while they can just L->R every game like maybe they'll buy Counterspell or Dispel Magic once in a while, but no more.
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>>559765442
>Start playing again when they added vic, mina, etc
>Grey talon would take at least half your health in lane phase with his charged shot
I s2g I was the only one complaining about him at the time. Now I see people are but he was SO much worse back then.
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>>559765117
This but I leave her to buy some milk once she tells me she's pregnant
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When will valve add a fairy to deadlock?
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why is it now literally every game my entire team is just brawling apes
not even in the lower ranks this was a problem but I hit emissary and now every person is a drooling ape and the enemy team is 100$ coordinated premades
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>>559762946
There's been a Calico and a Doorman every game since the patch.
Their model could be Nikocado's anus, you'd still find them every match, past a certain rank no one cares about the character and everyone is a tier whore.
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>>559765893
This
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>>559765904
when i started playing everyone thought of grey talon as the ultimate lanehitler character
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>>559766225
Calico is the ultimate lane hitler character
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>>559765961
they gave unicorn a leather jacket and full body tats, how are you supposed to deface a fairy?
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>your team has two idiotas
>they're feeding like 3-19-4 both
>next game
>the two idiotas are in the enemy team now
>absolutely fucking destroy them
>although some of your teammates still did worse than the two idiotas in this game

this matchmaking is something else man
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>>559766267
idk im in ritualist and no one plays her bc she is a bald black woman
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So who do i play now that Dynamo has been nerfed into complete dogshit tier?
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Give Calico an afro, visible eyes and a large ass.
There, boom fixed. And now like Mina half the playerbase will pretend she's actually very balanced.
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>>559766225
Used to be Paradox in early alpha.
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>play Geist
>16-1-15
>MVP
Yep, it's that easy.
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>>559766360
Now you play Kelvin, do well and still lose because the rest of your team goes a collective 4-50
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>>559766461
i remember paradox players liking her a lot more when she could jump around and heavy melee cancel with her gun
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when is icefrog adding lennox?
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>>559766425
Pic rel is my perfect Yamato.
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>>559766537
she used to have a fuck huge mag too
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>>559766225
To me, nothing beat prime Gunman as the greatest lanehitler this game ever saw.
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>>559766463
I know that Geist is good, but my aim was too shit to play her
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>>559762156
Victor. (Press all buttons and waste enemy time while they try to kill you)
Calico (press all buttons and kill people)
Mo and krill (press one button to kill enemies)
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>>559765893
Then you need to go back to LoL. The Icefrog design philosophy is to make every hero and item FEEL powerful, but have counters that are needed to fight them. The LoL philosophy is to make every hero generic and weak so counters aren't necessary. Valve is also obviously influenced by HotS of all things (health orbs in lane, shared exp to an extent) but does not, had not, and never will take on Riot design. Go away retard
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why does venator's gun grow on the zipline?
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>>559766639
This is the good thing about her, you don't have to aim perfectly, Life Drain does like half of the job.
You only need to make a few shots to slow your victim down
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>>>559753889
The bonus souls thing is way more fucked up on Calico than it was on Vindicta, Calico can actually 100 to 0 you with no warning, she can pressure objectives and can vanish from the map using tunnels.
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>>559765253
Silver is for Holliday! Both are bottom tier!
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>BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE RANK RANK RANK WTF ITS BROKEN WHAT IS VALVE THINKING
It's a beta, B E T A. It exists to test ideas and systems. They're not releasing balance updates with the goal of being balanced, these are ways to test ideas or possibilities. This line of thinking is like if playtesters thought they were supposed to be playing a finished game
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calico is the rengar of this game except she's way fucking better
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>>559766727
just buy cursed relic bro
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>>559766670
>The Icefrog design philosophy is to make every hero and item FEEL powerful, but have counters that are needed to fight them.
Then they failed lol
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Would SOD be too much for Deadlock?
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>>559766764
It's not a beta it's dogshit my dude. If you played DOTA2 you know it's not gonna get any better ever.
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>Ivy is worse blah blah cry cry
>play Ivy and go 11/0/7 in lane against apologize and rem with my Mina
>Infernus comes to gank at walker later, realizes it's hopeless, and starts teabagging before he dies in a bush
>Immediately disconnects and we win the game
Wtf bros I thought you said she was bad now
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>>559766727
i liked vindicta a lot more when she had bonus souls, i wish they had just tried to adjust it more instead of removing it from her, it was nice getting to have a lot of different item effects early instead of just flat gun damage
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>>559766928
Ivy is a serious contender for top 1 in the game, she is good at everything and can be everywhere.
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>just played with a 3 stack of koreans
>despite having 150 ping
>their macro was insane
I got carried, but holy fuck these 3 were actually insane. I fear when this game gets actually released this game will be dominated by them.
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>>559766964
she isn't good at gun
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>>559766998
You know I never did understand why Doto never picked up over there on Korea. The autism of Dota should have been more up their alley.
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>>559766964
Unless they gut her numbers to a ridicoulous extent Ivy's current set of abilities means she will never truely be a bad choice. Shes just such a cromulently designed hero
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>>559766727
The fact that he gave that buff to a character who's already a super farmer is so fucking retarded
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>>559766961
Yeah, me too.
I miss that highly active roaming playstyle that it allowed her to do, it made so you spent more time doing actual sniping and supporting your allies and less time pushing/farming.

I've been enjoying playing Vin and I like the grace period you have to gain stacks with your ult, but it feels like her identity as a sniper is diminished somewhat, it isn't as important for you to actually charge and time your ult for the kill, it feels more reliable to just tag them with it and then gun them down or let your teammates deathball them. I think if they gave her some incentive to actually kill with her ult, like 300/400ish bonus souls only at T3 assassinate, her design would be perfect for me.
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>>559764008
Disarming hex doesn't matter, slowing hex does.
>>559763702
>>559763615
Yeah the characters are not designed at all in a way where they are fun to play against, most of the time. Kelvin getting buffs and seeing him played again was a good reminder of this, he's so obnoxious in every single way.
Doorman and Wraith are now giga cancer and ruin every game they are in, since you either get a mildly competent person playing them and they just rape because of how easy they are, or you get an absolute bottom-feeding retard playing them because they know they are OP, but they're so bad at the game that they can't even take advantage of how OP the character is.
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every vyper I've seen in this game has been complete trash on both teams
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>>559764030
Yeah the game's balance is atrocious right now, it was already getting bad with the last 6 heroes added, but now I can safely say that the balance is absolutely in the shitter. Having to buy slowing hex just to deal with apollo/celeste/wraith/calico and needing counterspell for half the broken as fuck abilities in the game is not fun. Either give everyone stamina mastery and counterspell by default or don't make everyone have to waste 6k souls on them every game.
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I love being a paige OTP <3
I get so many friend requests..
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>>559766292
We need a hero with cutting scars, and the fairy rep would be a perfect fit for that.
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>>559767319
The thread auto updated with your porn bullshit right as my mom walked in fuck you fucking bitch
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Silver has nasty braps just so you know
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>>559766670
The icefrog design philosophy doesn't work when they just make 4-5 heroes broken every patch, or buff heroes that didn't need it (Victor)

Dota 2 has always had really bad balance and Deadlock is following suit.
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>>559767194
i used to buy shadow weave and run around super fast while invis (since the bonus souls let her buy expensive stuff really early)
i feel like she doesn't have much of an identity right now
with the change its not usually worth it to go for ult kills outside of early game, i get it's supposed to buff her later when ksing is hard but idk, her builds feel less creative now too
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>>559766764
>It exists to test ideas and systems
There's not much to test when updates come out every 6 months
>They're not releasing balance updates with the goal of being balanced
This is what their super secret test server full of russians and streamers are for
>It's a beta, B E T A
You're the beta for giving the retard devs a pass
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>>559767319
you have no friends
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>>559767418
I wish this item was good, but it just is never going to be good. There's no reason to buy it pretty much ever, since all the spammy hyper-mobile characters that you'd want it against usually just build healbane anyway.
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>>559767357
Ask your mom to dress up as Lady Geist for Halloween
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>>559767335
so, a small floating suicidal fairy?
an emo rep?
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>>559767194
With the 4-second grace period I've just been putting Quicksilver Magnum on her ult and tagging enemies with an uncharged shot, which does feel really lame.
I end up with way more stacks than before but it's not as fun. Now she just plays like any other m1gger except she's worse than the average M1 hero at farming and pushing until you get a bunch of items and stacks in.
Flight refreshing its duration on kills makes her very snowbally in teamfights, but if you're not killing anyone she's pretty weak.
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>>559767502
Ill dress as lady geist and put my ass in your chud face.
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At what rank does ganking other lanes become a viable strategy?
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>>559767397
Dota has great balance, b2LoL retard, this isn't for you
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>>559767660
at any rank??
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>>559767656
weird troon
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>>559767656
I'm in if you're female.
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>>559767451
>i feel like she doesn't have much of an identity right now
I really liked the changes in this update, even if it broke balance because most of them feel like reinforcing a character's identity: Wraith gambling; Drifter relying more heavily on the isolated gimmick and moving super fast with his ult; Mo being able to burrow into the tunnels.

Vindicta feels like she went in the opposite direction a bit, she feels less like a sniper and more like a flying machine gunner, she feels powerful but I'm not sure if I like the direction.
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>>559767502
I miss her old and small feminine gun
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>called a tier whore and bad every game because im playing Doorman after the buff
>its always after I cart them under walker or into fountain
I have 200 games on Doorman while he was complete dogshit doing the EXACT same shit as I am now. Makes me want to Hotelmaxx just to make these retards even angrier.
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Vindicta should actually get a sniper rifle with a small mag and high damage per shot if you want her to snipe.
She's been in a support role for a long time now.
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>>559767736
Then we have a deal.
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So what's the max order on Kelvin? Grenades, Dome with 1 point in beam?
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>>559767810
Ya the new gun is cooler and better looking but the purse gun fit her better. Where does she even keep that behemoth while wearing a dress?
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>>559767704
It seems like even if you have wave priority, you have partners that can't survive for more than 2 seconds.
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>>559765317
>Calico
>cat is a Sphynx
>wears mostly one color
Calico is a cool name but Sphinx/Sphynx with some Egyptian bits to her costume instead of her lame skull waiter outfit would be cooler
or keep Calico and give her vitiligo
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>>559767743
i feel the same pretty much, i might make a feedback thread or something idk, it probably wouldnt do anything
what would even be done to balance the bonus souls stuff anyway?
also it could be cool if she got bonus souls on assists (but a lot less)
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>>559767948
r2 beam rush always, win trades every time and secure ganks, then r2 bombs then r2 ice path then r3 nade
shelter upgrades for r1/r2 are so fucking dog piss man, it's pathetic, r3 is insane but like the rest of his upgrades completely dumpster shelter upgrades
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>>559767979
you gank either when your team is chasing low hps or when your side is stuck under guardian so you can come in from the back to nab a free kill on pushers
hopping lanes when retards are at a stalemate won't change anything, you're supposed to help finish the job
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can they give vindicta her bonus cash on snipes back if they're gonna make every new hero retarded?
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>can still spam eggs lategame
soooo
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>>559768194
they should make her ult ricochet and jump between players
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>>559768180
That's what I try to do but it just seems like a shitty idea because then my lane is 2v1
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>>559768180
Does Ivy poo?
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>>559751615
Feels the same as a Viscous player
I enjoyed the movement mechanics, the juggling you could do to punish bad parryers, the cube clutches you could do to save people and yourself
Now everytime I queue I have to deal with the implicit stank of playing a high WR character, and sometimes I'm even forced to watch some fucking loser that just got into the character now that he's OP completely fucking misplay him.
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>>559767979
if my ult is up i go to the nearest enemy and use it to get a kill, otherwise i just afk farm
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If a team wins the ritual who gets the wish? Everyone? If Warden has his "kill the patrons" wish fulfilled does everyone just not get a wish?
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>>559768297
>because then my lane is 2v1
2v1 is fine if you dropped/lost a guardian and they're not autistically pushing your shit in, if you're not done with your lane then it all depends on how quickly you can rotate between lanes
as I said, you're supposed to help FINISH THE JOB, you drop the guardian or kill both and come back
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So Valve does balance only based on the highest levels of play where nolife sweats with multiple thousands of hours each form teams and compete in livestreamed matches, and that's why there are two black kweens completely terrorizing every rank below nolife sweat, since, I guess, they aren't "that good" at competitive level? Is that what is happening?
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>>559766764
youre not wrong but some of the changes are completely retarded and anyone with a brain could foresee it being broken

look how raped shiv has been and they KEEP NERFING HIM
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>>559768532
>since, I guess, they aren't "that good" at competitive level
calico raped when melee creeps played her a week or two ago
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>>559768532
Calico is still stupidly strong at competitive level
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>>559768420
why do you think the game's called that?
most of the cast sounds like it's their 9 to 5 job and they can skip a day if (you) felt like it
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YOU'RE DE- ACK
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Im fine with the Shiv changes just please give him his stamina back man what the fuck
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If Stamina Mastery is supposed to be le boots of Deadlock then they should add multiple variations
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why do emissary games feel easier than rit games now that I'm here
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>>559768721
your arcane and kinetic?
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what champion in this game best recreates the feeling of a hamas fighter flying in on a paraglider during October 7th?
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>>559768731
I don't know, are you playing one of the patch's broken heroes?
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>>559768768
Shit items until they have two stamina
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>>559768076
>also it could be cool if she got bonus souls on assists (but a lot less)
Vindicta getting bonus souls on assists could easily get out of hand, she is typically has sight of the entire (team) fight and can tag multiple people with ease. It also doesn't really help reinforce her identity as a sniper, that's why I think it would be better to be exclusively on-kill.

I thought about making it a T3 investment because in this update they also made ability upgrades more attractive, before you would go all in on assassinate 100% of the time, then crows, then a toss up between flight or stake. Right now the rest of her kit is good, but there is little incentive for you to max out assassinate early since it retroactively boosts your damage, bonus souls are kinda antithetical to that in the sense that it's only really useful when upgraded early on, almost like Trophy Collector.

>>559768194
Don't know, Vindicta feels pretty strong. I've been playing games with her where I hit like a truck with 0 damage items, so giving her the ability to snowball souls on top of stacking damage could make her overpowered. I would gladly exchange some of that damage for the ability to get some bonus souls on snipe kills.
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>>559768721
Stamina Mastery is Boots of Travel
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this game needs surrender. could save hours of my life instead of afking in spawn
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>>559768796
>>559761363 on a magic carpet
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>>559768796
>rushing into enemy territory to maybe kill one guy before being jumped by the enemy team
Yamato.
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>>559768731
Team mates that don't let troopers kill the walker they're farming right next to?
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>>559768894
/lolg/ is at the end of the hall sweatie
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>>559768796
Ivy/Lash (Flying)
Bebop/Pocket (Majestic leap)
Mirage
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does everyone have perfect parry accuracy now? holy shit its always a single frame before I connect a heavy
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Why did they lie and tell people that personal performance mattered for ranking up
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>>559768258
Starting to believe it's intentional
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>>559769074
>Why did they lie
Yoshi said near 2 years ago that only wins and losses matter, that hasn't changed, newfaggot
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>>559768951
Joke's on you buddy, this patch made Deadlock more like LOL rather than Dota, with snowballs and all. Why do you think the uptick in player count happened?
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>>559768258
waaaait, I didn't even think about it as a soul sink
it's 400 souls for 2 gold statues, that's a fuckton of buffs lategame if you have a slot open
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>>559768851
>Vindicta getting bonus souls on assists could easily get out of hand
that's why i think it should be a lot less, and probably work like her current ult where theres a set time after you shoot to get them, mostly to still incentivize her to roam and fight and also make her not useless if she doesnt snowball which i think is a good think for the rest of the players on your team
but she wouldnt be strong without kill souls is what i mean, just not useless
a t3 investment could be interesting but doesnt it kinda make her not want to roam much for a while?
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>>559764008
disarm is for guns, anon
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>>559764008
slowing hex and disarming hex are shit. silence wave/focus are much better
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Once again DLG is wrong, Mirage is op 4 djin stacks =2k dmg then tornado is another 600. I think I found my new main.
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Paradox gameplay is still yet to be bested for me, what a fun kit
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>>559769471
>Mirage is op
I been saying this
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>>559769487
fun kit(lane wide giganuke)
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>called dis"arm"
>enemies can still punch
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>>559769109
dota has tons of snowballing you fucking retard, now go back to LoL
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>>559769471
oh no no no HAHAHAAHA
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>>559769580
arms in this context refers to weaponry like guns
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>>559758174
>>559758192
What changed
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Geist is so strong bros I only suck when my team does
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Character Design appearance and personality wise
>Worst characters from Deadlock's launch roster << Worst character's from Deadlock's recent roster additions
>Best characters from Deadlock's launch roster >>>>>> Worst character's from Deadlock's recent roster additions
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Just saw a moleman crawl out of the tunnels then use a carpet to fly away. Wild times we live in
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>>559769910
That sounds like something the shopkeeper would say
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>>559769109
lmao, now I know you're a LOLtard. Nothing could make Deadlock more DOTA coded than the players screaming "this patch is literally LOL" every single time.
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>"THROWING ENTANGLING THORNS"
it just doesn't roll off the tongue as well as before.
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Okay fellas hear me out.
What if all souls into golden egg buffs and no items?
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>>559770080
Why do leaguebabs live in the minds of dotards rentfree?
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how do i play XD
i deal no damage and am somewhat keeping up with souls. is my build ass or can i just not aim?
im getting mauled like the first eon when starting league. do these skills not transfer one bit or am i just retarded hehe
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>>559770292
None of the names fit
Entangling Thorns sounds like a druid spell from EQ or WoW or some shit
'Kudzu' is way too harsh a word for a supportive spell like tether, Watcher's Covenant is a way better name
True Form is a way cooler name than Stone Form and Falling Grace sounds way cooler than Air Drop
ideally they'd put them all back to how they were
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>pick drifter
>win lane
>win game
>lose lane
>lose game
what a character
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>>559770427
Play Wraith and press 4 for your free win.
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>>559770434
>Kudzu' is way too harsh a word for a supportive spell
This is autism.
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I just sucked off my duo's gock. I'm straight and main wraith btw.
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Tier 5 items when?
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>Come back after 2 weeks of not playing
>Shit tier match
>40 minutes of pure agony seeing my retarded team feed the Seven into his win condition
>Nobody bought knockdown
>Take a 2 day ban and leave

Yup, I'm not coming back for a while.
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>>559770752
filtered lul
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When are they adding Shiv's more powerful big brother, Stab?
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>enemy mina gets accused of cheating by teammate
>not sure if bullshitting or not
>buy veilwalker
>she prefires me from across the lane and when there's no troopers around
>constantly counterspells our slowing hexes
>go to report her
>"erm, sorry you can't report this person for cheating as you have already done so :)"
>profile is lvl 1 with one game on it and no pfp
Well I sure hope he gets banned soon if I've already reported him for cheating some time ago.
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>>559770854
Honestly, yeah. I just don't have the patience for this anymore.
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>>559770909
After they add his less powerful smaller brother, Shank.
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>>559771008
Is the Mina Ruskie or Chink?
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>>559769674
nobody cares about eternus nigga
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>its another Lash Wins game
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>>559771152
Its always a Lash wins game
dyeptg?
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>>559771138
Mina "Ha" isn't her laughing at half the cast for not having lock on or decent guns to shoot her in the air, its her last name and its Korean
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>>559771138
Ruskie. I'm EU, chinese hackers are somewhat rare and most moon rune names are usually just weebs or genshin fans
>>559771227
He's asking if the player was russian or chinese...
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>>559770595
It's linguistics
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Since people love to claim that the game has a wide tranny/fag playerbase, what rank are they all in?
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>>559771447
Anywhere from initiate 1 to eternus 6
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>>559771447
seeker at best
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>>559771447
Anyone that plays better or has a higher rank than me = tranny
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Icenigger should dumpster Wraith again, its so tiring to have games decided at draft, teams with Wraith just seem to win 80% of the time.
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>>559771447
I'm Ascendant and a massive homo who wants to have sex with characters such as Abrams, Lash, Infernus and Venator. I mainly play Kelvin, Billy and Rem.
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>>559771552
I prefer potm be a low health character so I can farm them
the true bullshit is when the pub meta buster is some lard ass
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>>559771629
>potm
You want them to add Mirana?
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>>559771608
>doesnt play the characters hes horny for
????
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I thought you can play any hero with any build, like melee Ivy for example, it turns out this is false. There's that one build that works better.
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>>559771608
Despite being a word directly made to describe them, masculine gay guys who get off to other masculine gay guys are what my brain goes to last when I think of a faggot/fag. Dykes, Troons, and femboys are all more obnoxious than actual gay dudes.
At least unless you're a furry. Gay furries are fucking annoying too.
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I only play Mina because she's a hot bratty spoiled rich girl who needs anal correction
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I get it now, the reason this game is so fucking addictive is that in a single fight you can outplay your opponent on so many levels and layers that when you land something like that your dopamine centers explode and cum at the same time.
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>>559771709
I have friends who play Venator so I'm not able to play him, gameplay wise I don't enjoy Infernus too much, I haven't mastered the movement tech yet so the lack of speed Abrams has feels weird to me and I have no real excuse for not playing Lash. Besides I didn't list every guy I find attractive in this game, I play Kelvin.
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>>559771918
Yeah that's what the game was before the latest patch. Now you just faceroll one of the OP heroes and collect your free win.
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first non streetbrawl game, had a lot of fun. Made some NERDS butthurt as well with my BALLSY plays.
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>>559752683
Enjoy your ban magatard, next time it willl be permanent
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>Win a game on Silver
>8 Kills 0 death
>felt like I made no impact whatsoever
They nerfed her so hard that even winning on her feels like shit. Also most of the game I couldn't do much in the ult. What a joke.
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>>559772319
Maybe the vision for Silver is that her ult is actually a handicap you need to avoid.
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>>559772410
>plat Silver
>Never unlock the ult
>Don't play werewolf on a werewolf character
>Lynathropy cured
BRAVO ICEFROG
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>silvertrannies now have to work as hard for their wins as other characters do
>doesnt enjoy the game anymore
kek
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>>559769674
/dlg/ can see a hero with 10% pickrate and 0.01% winrate in Eternus then say their Initiate 2 games where he has 2% winrate are more indicative of him being good.
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>>559772509
Post your Silver winrate
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>>559769006
Cheat mod was leaked to public recently.
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Who thought it was a good idea to make a character that sends you to the fucking cuck dimension?
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>>559772509
Silver already had to work hard for kills, you're just bad and stupid for feeding her.
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I love buying rusted barrel vs retarded m1 players, they always rage in chat.
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>>559772319
I've done pretty ok on her after the patch, I quickly learned that you need to have a different mindset on her than before the nerfs, for the most part she now feels like a literal punching bag for the enemy to focus on and the 'skill' is now knowing how deep you can commit for a kill without getting blown up
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>>559772596
I love spending 4x as much trying to counter a spirit build for less results.
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>for the most part I cant just faceroll once I go wolf anymore
hahaha
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>>559772646
It's almost like your character is supposed to blow dick early game wtf?
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Silver players already had to work work hard to perform well before the patch, with all the CC and focus thrown at them and melee being unfavored in a shooter game. Now they need to actively avoid their ult. Because it's a liability. Meanwhile Wraith, Calico, Grave, Celeste, Apollo and many other take no skill at all to perform better than even the most sweating Silver player.
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>>559772509
Silverniggers are the least self aware motherfuckers in the game
>bro i can't catch people
>has 2 slows, 2 dashes, 2 stamina bar refunds, +4 m/s movement speed
>Bro I get deleted quickly!
>Has built in res, healing and lifesteal but they are too used release silver and try to face tank everything and diving guardians as soon as they get their ult
Silver fags in /dlg/ are literally all seekers who now are forced to play the game like everyone else, sorry you can't pop your 20 sec cd ult and face tank and kill everyone anymore.
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>0% pro winrate
>45% winrate
>Gets nerfed to be even worse
>Pros still think she's good
How does Silver do it?
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>>559772736
>>0% pro winrate
there you troons go again
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>>559772696
>Spend 4x as many souls on a counter item
>Get less results than an 800 soul item does to me
>This is somehow earlygame
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>>559772720
>>559772762
Post your Silver stats, tranny
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>>559772762
>there you go again
Where? Use your words, we're trying to discuss an underpowered hero here
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>/dlg/ is full of Victor downplayers
>/dlg/ also claims Silver is OP
>/dlg/ calls Silver players bad
A pattern forms...
An image takes shape...
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What are the latest development rumors?
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>>559772873
Holliday rework is in development.
Possible Sinclair and Vyper soft reworks.
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>>559772702
Silver was sooo strong if no one bought counter items or knew how to climb ropes though she clearly had to be nerfed.
Other overpowered heroes aren't actually overpowered though as you can buy counter items for them.
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>>559772847
Silver is currently stronger than Mirage.
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>>559766670
This is how broodwar is balanced
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>>559772873
Pic related
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>>559772736
She's just got pure animal magnetism
Even the haters still love her
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>team that plays Melee Creeps first picks Silver
>Silver loses
>repeat for weeks
>Melee Creeps finally get Silver
>Silver wins
woah
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>last past
>playing a lot of Doorman and Calico
>this patch
>don't feel like playing them anymore
anyone else here /contrarian/ ?
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>>559772932
>Silver is currently stronger than Mirage.
Damn, the bar's in hell, huh
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>>559772932
>pugstomp character is better at stomping pugs than the coordinated play character
Say it ain't so...
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>>559773023
>I need bomb stacks you retard, how else am I going to scale lol? Muted.
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>>559772950
>meanwhile Abrahams finally gets her
>Silver loses and Abrahams loses their 14 streak
It's enough to make a man think
Not sure what about, but I'm thinking
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I genuinely have no idea why she got the 300 soul talent. Pretty much the only change she needed was leaping slash stopping on enemy heroes because the blind spot on it was frustratingly large. Now this character is going to get a Mirage-level nerf but of course they're going to keep the change where Ava's movement speed ramps up slower than a snail on molasses.
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Silver haters are the most disingenuous and delusional retards in this general.
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>>559769534
>(lane wide giganuke)
we're carbinechads in this household
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Im not even a silver hater anymore, I got exactly what I was hoping for... hahah!
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Don't mind me just collecting my free wins with Silver
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What's your first thought when Lady Geist jumps you and starts sucking your life essence out?
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>>559773198
I hope icefrog reverts the changes other than the QOL stuff. I played her a lot pre patch and post patch now she is a braindead snowballer
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The only reason Silver was nerfed is because she has no popular streamer or YouTuber playing on her 24/7 and lobbying for her. Modern game devs only listen to influencers when it comes to feedback.
Everything else isirrelevant. You know it's the truth. They just changed Lash's melee animation because of a tranny YouTuber. Meanwhile, Silver's animations in human form are Sevens'.
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>>559773352
I get the fuck out of dodge.
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>>559773060
>coordinated play character
Nobody gonna be picking this version of mirage in pro play brother. Not unless they experience Silver-tier delusions all of a sudden.
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>>559773326
>51.6%
>free wins
Now post Seven and Victor
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>>559773407
Those heroes are weak though you can just buy counter items
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>>559773394
silversisters we are constant victims.... how do we make things better?
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So we're all just ignoring that post that has someone shitting on a dick?
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>>559773407
Seven is loosing only because retards play Gun Seven
Imagine having one of the most powerful ultimates and you're just like "no thanks I don't want to invenst in this I'd rather pew pew"
Absolute fucking retards
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>>559773502
Silver's more important than indians or (literal) shit posts
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Imagine if Silver knew the love anons gave her she'd be really happy
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Egg cant stop winning
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>>559750328
Why the fuck do they keep nerfing Graves
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>>559773514
That's literally the main reason people play Silver and Venator even though they were probably the two most underwhelming new heroes in terms of power.
People want to play gun characters in a gun game but Yoshi keeps pushing the fuck out of spirit abilities and items.
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>>559773689
Autoaim characters should never be good
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>>559773667
STOP BUYING THIS SHIT
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>>559773696
Dynamo fuck you doing?
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>>559773593
>Silver's more important to indians and (literal) shit posts
Fixed
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ShivGODS Is knifemaxxing back?
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>>559768076
I feel like theres a weird issue with guns where a lot of the old chatacters have full-auto. Now that weve got a lot more variety with them maybe just give her a bolt action with high velocity?

I was suprised how slow her bullets traveled when i played her first time. Glad they buffed that.
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>>559773731
Mmmmm nyo
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>>559773779
>IM DEAD! *dies*
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>>559769006
it's definitely the autoparry thing I see people talk about
I'm a newfag in shitterland and I see people immediately instaparrying all of viscous's anal fisting, no matter how hard it gets spammed or if he's flanking and they don't even know he's there yet, etc
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>>559773719
Her gun range needs to be buffed by 2m.
Needs 3 stamina and 2 base regen
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Reminder that all females in Deadlock are the trannydevs' self inserts and if you goon to any of them, you're supporting LGBTQ+ rights.
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>>559773813
>hear viscus goo punch Sound
>press f
>know he Spams it
>press f again
>NOOOOOOOOO AUTOPARRYYYY AAAIIIIIEEEEHHHH
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>>559773895
there is no way a paint huffing 0/9/2 drifter is miraculously good at that and only that
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>>559773894
I miss them all and get raped in lane...
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>>559773667
My entire Team was crashing out at me for being useless bcs i still had my egg 20 min in and how id do 10% less dmg (i was 3/3/4)
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how long has Drifter had the slav idle crouch?
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>>559773974
Autoparry is only one option in the cheats it usually comes with wallhacks and autoaim. If a Dritter is 0/9 hes not cheating
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Can someone post that drifter crouch walking behind 3 people on yellow walker?
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>>559773779
>buff knoifes
>nerf ult (complete shit to hit unless you're facehugging now and they can just warp stone to dodge)
It feels like they wanted to finally gut his very specific niche in "pro" matches so they can start slowly buffing him, but in the meantime the character is probably the worst he's ever been unless you're one of those autistic OTPs that can zoom around the map at mach speed with him
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Why don't they just rework Shiv's ult?
In hindsight it was hilariously stupid of them to give a tanky character the execute ability.
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>>559773893
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockJan2026/Audio/hornet_match_start_viper_hornet_convo02_03.mp3
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>>559773830
She needs 1 stamina actually.
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This item feels like it's designed for a character that doesn't exist.
>If you spam abilities and items, your gun shoots and reloads faster
>All the characters that spam abilities and items don't invest in their gun
>All the characters that invest in their gun can't afford to spam their abilities assuming they're even capable of it
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>>559774212
Wraith
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Haven't tested it out yet I figure one of you know, does the spirit damage from toxic bullets scale with spirit?
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>>559774212
Mirage used to be able to get 4 stacks fast with Fire Scarabs then they deleted his ability to do that, along with anything else the hero was capable of.
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>>559774212
Lady Geist
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>youtube video asks a very specific question or has a specific topic in the title (example: Is Shiv the "worst" character of Deadlock)
>15 second voiceover intro followed by 35 minutes of an unedited stream VoD
Is this the shittiest type of youtube "content" ?
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iiii~i'm Rem!!
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>>559774212
Yamato
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>>559774212
Geist
>>559774275
Yea but not by much, boundless gives 1% more, but with Escalating its good
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>>559774212
Ah fuck I fell for the bait fuck you
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>>559774212
Celeste
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>>559774115
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>>559774316
It's the free money no effort type of content for streamers
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>>559774316
No its reaction channels
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>>559774413
Kek thanks anon
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>>559774316
unc learning about engagement bait in the big 26
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>>559774212
>charge abilities
>recast abilities
almost everyone invests in their gun. hybrid is the default build
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>>559774316
Most deadlock ecelebs seems to just use AI to generate a title and then just post their stream. Xera’s videoed would be “IS THIS DRIFTER BUILD BUSTED?!?” and be a thumbnail of a haze player going “this is crazy” and the video is just the Jew playing a boring game of drifter where there isn’t even a haze and it’s just him talking to chat about how drifter is weak
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Why can't you use the funny brawl items in the hideout?
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>>559774212
Its good with nades like venator and warden (after t3 flask)
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>>559774537
You can with console
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>>559774601
Once again pc gets the short end of the stick
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>>559774316
Ive stop watching any deadlock bews vids. Its like especially bad for this game for some reason.
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>>559774413
>whats the plan?
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>>559774654
Heresey is and poshypop are only good ones.
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>>559768638
The ritual explicitly is going to take place during an hour long maelstrom event
It's not something that repeats over and over, the last time something similar happened was 50 years ago and it fucked up the whole world near instantly
The implication is that every match is the fortune teller in the lobby that you use to queue telling you about a potential outcome of the ritual
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>>559774649
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>>559774413
OUR DEFENSES ARE CRUMBLING!!11!!
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>see our doorman not using his m1 at all during the entire game
>ask him why
>what if I don't have bullets to proc bells
is this normal or was he retarded?
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Love warden new kit
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>>559767906
genuinely feel bad for honest doorman mains now after they gigabuffed him and made him retardproof (wider cart, bells no longer need impact, entire ult changes)
they took a good character that required a high level of gamesense and mechanical skill and made him a braindead ape character, and he's not the only one this patch
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>>559774490
engagement is primarily watch time, followed closely by comments, then thumbs up
if you're baiting me with something in the first 15 seconds then switching it up I'm leaving, and click-through rate is barely favored by the algorithm nowadays

Engagement bait would be making a retarded point, omitting something on purpose in the video (for comments to correct you) etc.
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>>559774413
>the 'why doorman gets 10s ult crowd'
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>>559774852
I'M VULNERABLE
PROTECT ME AT ALL COSTS
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Is it me or tying anything to Djin's mark is now extremely counteproductive since you give up on the stun
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there like any movement maps that exist that let you practice specific movement tech?
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>>559774926
got your dumbass to click on it tho +1 viewcount
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>>559772720
I knew for certain they were shitters when that one anon said you could just get on the zipline to ignore her ult.
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>>559774926
how does one know how the algo works besides experimenting?
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>>559774490
this post is engagement bait
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How are you supposed to play Mo and Krill?
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>>559774868
Retarded, Doorman M1 is a solid damage dealer and you can generally get several shots into people and still save a few for popping bells
Probably got caught reloading once and formed the most retarded habit possible in response
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>>559775176
their name is short for molest and kill which should help you
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>>559772702
b-but bwo, the value the team gets out of everyone focusing YOU for CC instead of anyone else bwo!
b-but unstoppable bwo!
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>>559775107
You don't, you just post videos and see what works and what doesn't using the analytics tools provided by youtube. It's very easy to see that comments and watch time is the most important thing for the algorithm right now, until they decide to change it again.
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>Fail one push
>Bitch on my team AFKs in fountain for the rest of the game
People do that in this game too huh?
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>>559772736
>45% winrate
She was over 50% at Eternus.
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>>559772847
Victor is legitimately really bad unless you freefarm all game so you can become gigahitler
people also dont realize you cant stand in his stink aura
I hate victor too only because my teammates never know how to deal with him but he's honestly not bad. He's like nasus from league you need to just rape him continually and don't let him farm or don't let his team take walkers. Doesnt even matter if he giga farms, as long as he gets itemlocked from walkers you will just roll his whole team
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>>559775323
Funny, every time I watch Silver in Eternus she gets shitted on hard. Maybe the data didn't catch up yet
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>>559772720
Im not a big silver player but i think the issue is how you activate it. Before you would kinda take risks since its hard to do damage in humsn form to get close. Relying on your ult to swing. Now if you get somewhat low you transform and are only survivable enough to get out.

If youre good at the character you can plan out the engagement better and still benefit. If it were a normal ult too you could engage with it from sn advantaged position easily. Everybody likes the gimmick though. So idk what to change. Maybe nerf more but give full hp?
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>>559775017
i dont think custom maps are a thing
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>>559775379
>the hero with over 60% isn't strong because you can jump through a dozen hoops to counter him
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>>559775429
>Maybe the data didn't catch up yet
That was from before the patch since anon was clearly referring to that. Though even now she so far has an over 50% WR.
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>>559775323
>literally posting outdated fake shit
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>>559775550
It's almost like I said 'was' for a reason as if the guy I was replying to was talking about the winrate before the patch.
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>>559775323
Nitpicked stats
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So why are liches so bad?
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>>559775608
My screenshot clearly shows her winrate is 49.6% on the 3rd of March, the patch came out on the 6th.
Her winrate was BELOW 50% when she got giganerfed.
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is there a mod that fixes paige's reddit hair
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>>559775704
People learned how to play against her, the hero was a knowledge check that naturally would keep dropping in winrate.
She objectively needed buffs, not nerfs.
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>>559774413
>average /dlg/ poster
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>>559775731
goth paige
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>>559775758
>the hero was a knowledge check that naturally would keep dropping in winrate
Her winrate was increasing after her release. The first week she was barely over 40%.
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>>559775758
I agree, or at least not fucking nerfed her, she was perfectly fine before.
Any buff I would've given her is give her 3 stamina, but now she needs several to unfuck her severely nerfed throwpick kit and detrimental """ultimate"""
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>suck ass at parry timing
>team gets mad at me for dying to holiday’s lasso into enemy team
>tell me to buy counterspell
>still fail to time it right and die anyways
I know I have to get better, but what’s the point in yelling at me? I even bought counterspell like you asked me to, I was trying, man
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bros i've developed a smurfing addiction. rank ups dont satisfy me anymore.
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Is hopoo around?
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>>559775831
That can be explained by her being the new hero and having tourists playing her and tanking her winrate
Her pickrate is pretty low among the new 6 and her winrate hovers below 50%
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Can you counterspell Geist ult?
No one ever seems to
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>>559775938
Moba games last a long time and people telling you something useful instead of just flaming you is already above-average communication.
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>>559776072
If you do it in .1 seconds
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>>559776001
Her pickrate was 60% until this patch, where she's one of the few characters that didn't get any reason to try her out, and it could also have to do with players actually learning how to play her.
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>>559776164
Parries have long windows, you can preemptively predict it if the Geist is smoothbrained enough
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>>559775704
>My screenshot clearly shows her winrate is 49.6% on the 3rd of March
What do you think the big numbers that say over 50% next to the lines mean, anon?
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>>559775831
>Her winrate was increasing after her release.
Probably because she got massive buffs, on account of her terrible winrate
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>>559776336
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>finally have a game where I don't go 0/12
>actually get a ton of kills and put pressure on the map
>lose just the same
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>>559760526
I play brool or if it's really bad a different non MP game.
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>>559763965
I know nothing about the show besides trannies like it though they like everything I like so whatever. Happy Graves does makes me smile. Apollo looks like a jobber.
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>>559775817
You just give Paige a different hairstyle and she becomes arguably prettier than Mina.
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>>559766546
>DUDE THE MAN
>Painted green edition
Rather they add the korean meme versions of Bazz. Having a schizo would be fun.
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>>559766670
>HotS influenced
We were too hard on Blizzard, they actually tried to do something different atleast.
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Has anyone had a single game since the patch that wasn't a massive one sided stomp with multiple people on the losing side going like 3/10?
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>>559775989
Likely.
>Blood tribute changed *exactly* to the stats I posted
>Mina readjusted for lategame with early LB nerf
The latter could've of easily been thought up by another but the fact BT got changed exactly to what I posted about makes me think he lurks.
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>>559773779
Every shiv I've seen only does damage with knife.
He'll have like 60k total damage and 40k of that will be knives and everything else will be around 2-3k
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>>559779695
No this patch fucking sucks dick, this is awful man.
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>>559760130
That's not the case though. And specifically his ult is dumber than ever, and boring to use.
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>>559774820
You'd think with how important and rare it is it would be all heroes taking part in the ritual, not just a dozen.
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>>559779695
yes
my team threw a win after getting rejuv
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>>559773229
then why do you have expansion? what is this clip even showing?



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