Previous Thread>>559279480Bob edition>Decklistshttps://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - free stats and deck listshttps://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta reporthttps://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch noteshttps://hearthstone-decks.net/ standard & wild decks>Deck Trackers & Statisticshttps://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck trackerhttps://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck trackerhttps://heartharena.com/ – arena helperhttps://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper>Misc.https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24245219/deathwing-strikes-back-in-cataclysm-heathstone-s-next-expansion - new expansionhttps://playhearthstone.com/ – official websitehttps://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wikihttps://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournamentshttps://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker>Helpful Linkshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex's article on gaming mentalityhttps://screenrant.com/hearthstone-future-content-2024-nathan-lyons-smith-tyler-bielman/ insights from the devs on why the game is shit>Current Hearthstone Event:https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24242864/your-guide-to-cataclysm-card-reveals-and-free-rewards-in-the-dragon-s-hoard
monk will save us (at blizzcon)evoker will cement us
DONT FORGET YOUR FREE PACKS TOMORROW
>>559800792How do you get them?
>>559800465They didn't even bother giving him the same phrases or voice he has in hearthstone.Such a rush job.
>>559800829
so cool that this interaction is still a thingdeck completely ruined because rogue played the funny legendary that puts a card in your deck haha
>>559803358yeah they really did not think about the implications of these fabled cardsI played no minion dh against heren DK the other day and I completely fucked up his deathrattle ress pool with the demons from portal to argus
The first expansion is around the corner and that's one expansion left for Blizzcon and the Monk release!!! 2026 is the time, Panda time is coming and will be GREAT!!!!
>>559803358Rogue can suck my dick. They are so unfun to play against. >Turn 2 maestra>Turn 5 Drop hero card>Turn 6 Tess into shadowstepIt's not even good, any aggressive deck just kills them before the combo, but shit is fucking cancerous. They deserve to lose shadowstep over this. Fuck em.
>>559800465A warrior just put I think at least 25 bombs into my deck in one turn. What? I ended up dead at the start of my turn while at like 50 hp? Please clarify? The 'battlecries, deathrattles and end of turn effects trigger twice' thing shouldn't apply to the deathrattle of the 8/8/8 bomb dummy thing's deathrattle while it's still alive, so wtf happened?
there will be a free weekly pack from the bnet webstore starting in 2 weeks
I like that DK effectively by design is a class that will always have 90% winrate into anything slightly aggressive because they simply get to start the game with 70+ health. They don't even have to build for it or anything, they just get it with their good cards. It just works like that for some reason, they decided "hey this class should get health simply for existing while still pushing great tempo" and the result is that DK literally cannot lose to an entire archetype.
>another expansion of warlock being unplayableepic, very cool, nice
>>559805301How is this piece of shit 9 mana? It should be like 6 at most.
Is it a good idea if I skip the Pre-Release Cataclysm brawl?
>>559805301What went so wrong? I had so many hopes for ChoGall...
>>559800465This general is 70% people refusing to acknowledge that they're playing rock paper scissors with a coinflip at the start
>>559805770I think it'll be good
>>559805924Anon... Is garbage
>>559805301I'm pretty sure some form of dragon warlock will be playable, just play all of the good dragons
>>559805583In reality, that card only cost 4 mana at the time.
>>559797154totemic might draenei my beloved>>559798134based, love that card>>559804886I hate DK so much it's unreal, both OP to fight and boring to play. at least DH had some interesting gimmicks throughout the years.
finished my ranked quests today before the utter frankenmeta that will be unleashed tomorrow
Ready to play Imbue Hunter tomorrow?
I refuse to play Standard until new Exp.
>>559806569>>559806830I won't play a single game until Cata release. Anyone who spends dust on these cards again deserve their one week of joy though.
>new keyword: shatterhuh? wasnt that already added a couple of months ago? what was the keyword that split minions?
>>559805891I acknowledge and hate it
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24265937cata battlepass
>>559808351>free colossal sweet
>>559808351>Darkscale Broodmother, Wildwood Circle, Genn, Cursed King, and Confront the Tol’vir all for freeThis is the first time I actually wanted all the uncraftables on a reward track
>>559808351>CATACLYSM will have a Mini-Set, coming in Patch 35.4,Doesn't the reveal trailer literally say the opposite and that we're no longer getting mini sets????
>>559808351This is looking like a great expansion so far
>Basically all removals are gone so controddlers can no longer delete the scary things while drooling on the keyboard>Mage finally got it's shit together, stopped horsing around with le random chungus and now has a deck that resembles the Tempo Mage with Mana Wyrms from the old timesIs this game unironically about to get saved?
https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/12233-the-darkmoon-faire-treasures-simulator-deathwingComing soon to a theater near you.
>>559800465lol I took that.
>>559805770What? How? It was abhorrent dogshit from second 0.
>>559813951you know zeddy and friends will have a melty until blood dk is the best deck in the game
>>559814164this WILL be $200+tip
>>559814304He HAS to be about to die at this point, right?
Gawd DAAAMN I want to cum inside this bitch so badly UUUUUGHHHH hnhnnngg....
>>559814538sorry bro but unless you're a horse you have no shot at it
>>559813951No. The lack of efficient removal means tempo is more important than ever. It's going to be mindless play green/yellow card slop where whoever has the better curve wins. There is no way to flip the board and by the time the few board clears are online, your opponent starts dumping 7-8 cost mega minions that make a whole board from nothing with huge stats.Pretty much every class seems to basically have the same gameplan of play curve into 1-2 big minions on turn 7/8.
>>559814164>highest chance is the vegan waraxe reskinfuck this shit and fuck everyone who drew the artwork for those faggy axes
>>559815117>Controddlers are threatening us with a good time once again
>>559815117curvekino just as god intended
>>559816107>>559816556I mean, it is perfect for the Hearthstone players. Mindless golems that just want a deck that plays itself.
>>559816731can we also get the game to play itself? no, faggygrounds doesn't count.
Why is Blizzard so obsessed with Shaman hero skins?
>>559816914Is playing a single card and pressing the yellow button to hard for you?
>>559815117curvestone and diaperstone both suck but diaperstone is worse. at least curvestone games end in a reasonable timeframe when you're obviously losing. they curve out and kill you by turn 8 vs dragging them out to turn 25
>>559816731yeah, because playing removal on curve takes so much more skill than playing minions on curveat least with minions you have to think about the way you trade
>>559817018you don't wait for it to turn green? YOU GOT UNSPENT MANA AND PLAYABLE CARDS IDIOT
>>559816965Cataclysm is Shaman expansion
>>559816731Don't pretend that dragging removals is skillfull. We all see the current meta, and we had to endure blood dk for a year straight.
>>559814164pulls ranked>alex+random sig>rag>random golden legendary>gold pack>DW>sig epic>card back>sig rare>sig common>dk skinDW would be higher since free legendary but its so fucking ugly I wouldn't even want to use the sig DW
>>559808091>what was the keyword that split minions?there was never a keyword that did that retard-kun
>>559808318Is incredible how Combo will remain dead.
>>559808091it actually WAS ADDED. but it did nothing
crazy how one nigger minion with full reborn on turn 5 just decides the whole gameremove nigger gifts already
>>559819437we wuz healfy n sheeeeeit. I HOPE YOUR REBORN WAS A BLOB
>>559819437>remove nigger giftsYes please
monk will be the most honest class since it won't have dark gifts or imbue
>>559821171it's going to be part of the minisets
>>559822096I think a colossal will definitely be but dark gifts/imbue would desynchronize after rotation, it would be super weird to have only one class with gifts or imbue while the rest doesn't have them
>>559821171>Honest class>All the shitty gimmicks of Rogue with more bullshitSure bro.
>>559822460it's an extra miniset. THEY CAN MAKE IT BIGGER, AND ROTATE IT EARLIER.
*costs $200 in your path*
How expensive will Azshara be? NGL if she's like 25 I might pig out.
>>559814164>200$did they up the price?
>>559826745Yup
>>559827693this means people actually bought it at 160$ and this lessens my faith in humanity a little bit
I'm grateful with people that paypig this game so i can keep enjoying it for free :^) keep the good work.
>>559827958>he still has faith in humanity
Yeah nah fuck this
>>559831676>anon has a fetish for bronze dragon dilfs
>>559831676Bow down.
>>559831676the first good noz card
>>559827958They figured this out a decade ago90% of the playerbase will pay 0 dollars. The skin could be 1 dollar and they still wouldn’t buy it. But the top 1% are gigawhales that are willing to pay any price. So it’s better to just set the price really high
>>559831923>>559831676MY 13 MANA COMBO!!!!!
>>559832168mana ysera is still in standard.
The game got too f2p friendly. Now every mouthbreather from legend all the way down to bronze has the latest metaslop deck.
>>559831676this will get nerfed to +2/+2 and 5 mana 3/3
>>559832307And thats a good thing because you can filter mouthbreather bad player faggots.
>>559831923That’s timmy shit. The real problem is gonna be any token spammer and cheap divine shield on turn 4. Thank christ flash sale is rotating
>>559831676He's going straight in my wild dude deck
>>559831676He's going gay in my wild dude deck
>>559831676FinallyThe first sideboob in hs
The game is the most fun when games end at turn 8-12
The game is the most fun when I win
>>559838232and that is why aggro niggers should die
I have>13k gold>25k dust>all the free packs they have given so farmight have hoarded a little too hard this time around
Be honestWhy do you still preorder if you see how shit the game is?
>>559842269I have never ever preordered anything in my entire lifeI think I may have reserved majora's mask at a local game store as a kid once, but I dont think I paid in advance
>>559842269sunk cost fallacy is the reason for 99% of people
the patch tomorrow is going to CHANGE the game
>>559843361What's it going to CHANGE
>>559842269value
>>559842551>>559845050Is that regret worth fueling more than stopping for good and doing something better with your money? Like just admit you're wrong, cut your losses and move on? For example, I spent thousands of yuro on CODM, yes, I know, retard, but I quit the game cold turkey, not a single regret, I had my fun, I paid for it but it's not worth doing it anymore, I found a new passion in buying gold lingots with whatever I have left of my wagie at the end of the month
>>559843361I was looking through everything going>still playable>still playable>still playable
>>559845414Blobs are unplayable now
>>559845414current dh decks will be dead and ele mage will kill most current decks
>>559845479Nah blob is still ok, the issue is the 5 mana 5/3 cocksucker
>>559845479they buffed it
>>559845702>>559845917GET YOUR OWN BALL!
>>559847069Doesn't this rotate?
>>559847479Yeah, this was more about the cancer meta because of the patch. Even then it's still most likely gonna be nothing but starshit.
So what should i play post rotation?
>>559848067Yu-Gi-Oh
>>559848067dragon hunter
>>559815889They could have at least used an axe that actually existed ingameI was swinging this for ages, thought it looked fucken sweet
PEW PEW PEW
I'm expecting the post-rotation meta to be fast aggro vs deathwing decks, a fully charged deathwing will win most games, it's just a matter of surviving until you can play it, kinda like Reno 2 years ago
>>559850328Flying into the wildbin very soonSpeaking of, was this guy commonly used when spaceships were fresh? Or did regular hard-removes make him largely pointless
>>559850628killing the pieces is pointless since they go into the starshipthe final starship killed you the turn it launched this didn't let you destroy starships while they were being builtit's completely useless
Egg chads, I bless your draws to always have this on turn 1.
>>559851456Oh it just destroys minions, it can't target unlaunched ships? That does sound way less useful, but thinking about it yeah Blizz wouldn't want people being able to so easily counter the expansion's selling point
>>559814164>Not two, not three, not four, but FIVE separate cosmetics in the Darkmoon Faire is for WarriorIf this doesn’t prove Control Warrior fans are literal goycattle begging to be milked I don’t know what will
>>559814164they didn't do the double golden pack shit again so at least it has that going for it
>>559851628Day 1 Al’Akir Believer, standing by
>>559852842I'd honestly prefer most likely getting a gold pack over a s*gnature
page 10. we are home. and the pre release is tomorrow. lmao
It's been awhile but this never gets old
>>559861935WAXXED
>decided to play hostage dh>first match is nominion dhLOL whatever... altf4
>>559866729nominion dh plays a ton of minions
let me open them!! LET ME OPEN THEM!!!!
I might take shelter in the arena for the week since I'm already legend and I can't be asked to play in the revert meta. What's good?
>>559874309>Oh no it started raining>Let me take shelter in the bottom of the baikal lake
I just want to have fun but this week will be impossible.
It's kind of funny that Shaman already has a mini version of Herald Warrior.
>>559878457and it funny how no one played this card
>>559878457this shouldve been buffed to a 4/5 at least
>>559878457This was good in quest shaman, and would have been good if they ever got a good elemental package in standard
>>559878982what in tarnation are you talking about? shaman had an elemental generator and a spell discovering elemental in core. it just sucked, lol.
>>559878982>This was good in quest shamanPOOP IS GOOD IN SHIT!
>>559879243>if they had a good package>they had one but it sucked>>559879478Hey it was playable for a week before everyone went back to hagatha
Predictions for next week tier list? I think DH, Warrior, Shaman and Hunter will rape the whole ladder.
why don't they just kill this stupid fucking card? they know full well they will have to nerf it again soon
>>559880167they are gonna nerf 20 cards in two weeks because control players will have a melty that they die to minions
>Combo>Non existent>Control>In shambles>Aggro/Midrange>In full forceWhat Cora and Team5 mean with this?
>>559880243has nothing to do with itthis is just a plainly fucking retarded card that needs a nerfshould either be 5 mana 6/7 elusive or 4 mana 6/7 not elusive at alllike yea its funny to clown on controltards but first of all this card is abused the hardest by warrior who is also the control class because if warrior doesn't have at least 3 Tier 0 decks for every archetype the game explodesthis is just a boring pile of stats and that if you have on hand turn 4 then woops my deck has +15% winrate. boring, uninteresting, broken as fuck, the sort of card nobody could give a shit about if it gets nerfed to uselessness
>>559880167>>559880554He is strong but will fit into the powecreep The same miniset had a 0 mana 6/5 draw too, and the cata hunter cards are even stronger
>>559874309Imbue rogue
>Nerf blob>Unnerf StarshitThis is sadistic, this is straight up tortorous.
>>559883568doesn't it unnerf after it rotates to wild? if anything, it's good news for wildychuds
>>559884564It'll unnerf this evening and we will have to endure it for an entire week.
>>559884753so it'll probably amp the demand for silences. either play priest or don't play at all if you got a problem with spaceships
Just a few more hours left
>>559887004I want Cataclysm not shitty revert.
>>559887594isn't that cataclysmic enough for you?
>>559880167it should be a 7/7 or a 7/6 so I can kill it with BGH
>>559880554>we want stats to matter>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>>559891552stupid idea but what if you abusive sargeant it so it dies to bgh? or give it taunt so it dies to black knight? or play the kindred kodo?
>thought the brawl was todayhow fucking long do we have to suffer with shitty standard?
>>559894630>https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24242864/your-guide-to-cataclysm-card-reveals-and-free-rewards-in-the-dragon-s-hoardit is supposed to be today
>>559894630its todayalways has been 19:00 CET
>>559894993>>559895082>>559894630Are you guys building your own decks for the brawl, or getting codes online?
>>559895431I did for the previous few brawls but it always felt like a waste of gold/money.
>>559895431zeddy said he's posting decklists tomorrow and I would like to get my twitch packs before entering anyways, I'll wait until tomorrow, if I don't like any of the early lists, I'll just make my own
>>559895431slamming frost dk until it stops winning
>>559895431it's always bets to try and build the best deck with the cards and legendary you get (it's they're good)otherwise build an aggro/tempo deck or a counter to that decki got lucky last brawl and unpacked hunter/shaman fable so had great success with those
literally hours away from ele mage dominating
>>559899656dominating bronze lmao
Release the expansion.I need my meme combo in wild.
>>559904057oh hi mark. fuck you.
patch DOKO
>>559904314Im not mark, im the chud warrior poster.I wanna try trog burn hunter, but I think it will lose to all aggro decks.Chud warrior is likely dead with the crok nerf.
>I am stuck in Diamond 5It's over for me, bros. It's too hard. Give luck for the next expansion.
maybe this card was a mistake
30 minutes until our lives are changed forever
I'm not trying to flex with this post. This is my first ever expansion. Should I open my packs today, or should I wait the 7 days?
>>559904057meme combo? I want my treant druid support to kill on turn 4-5 more often
>>559905689>Should I open my packs today, or should I wait the 7 days?kinda depends on what you want to do for the next 7 days, you can play all of the cards you open in the pre-release tavern brawl, and that's where they'll be the most impactful
>>559905689you only wait for standard packs. yours are all expansion specific. OPEN AWAY
>>559905689why did you get both preorder bundles?open them today if you want to play the brawl, otherwise it makes no difference
once again i am losing with the best class (DK) in arena when if im playing something else, enemy DK just rapes mewhy cant i be the rapist for once?
A great way to start community days!
>>559906237hearthstone is so alive it's DESTROYING the servers
>>559906014>>559906021>>559906098I will open my packs and try the brawl. It makes me anxious but I'm sure I'll be fine.
>>559906328quit being a faggot.
>>559905830Play dead+trog+Dr trigger=infinite play dead then awaken the tolvir for infinite Dr triggers
>>559905689there is literally zero reason not to open. if you open a legendary that gets gifted in the track the track will reroll it for free. and your packs aren't standard packs but expansion packs. on top of that you will get to make an op deck and farm some wins in the brawl
>>559905065die warrior player
When do drops start?
>>559907962in a few minutes
>>559907962RIGHT NOW
I'm in.I didn't get a notification about the patch. Is it live?
>>559908592restart game but not bnet and check for updates
>>559908695Yeah that worked thx
>>559908695>>559908592it's live.
so for a returning player (will have 0 standard cards after rotation) should o wait until cata actually drops or can i get back in now?
>>559908879you got all cards from emerald dream and ungoro for free until the next set dropsplay now
>>559909006AFTER cata is out. not now
LETSGOOOOOO
>>559909059Yes now
>>559909059it's live in the new update dipstick
>>559908879pretty sure you should wait for it to dropright now you would pick from 5 or 6 decks and get it for free but they're made with cards that rotate out if you do it when it drops, you should be offered new decks
So if I don't relog I can keep playing with my unerfed blobs?
>>559909059just login bro
>>559909195for a couple more hours yes, then everyone else will be on the new patch and the game might force kick you
time to farm achievements
>there are people who don't know the tab mute trick and now have to listen to 6 hours of zeddyHow sad
Why can‘t i refund nerfed cards
>>559909921you can't disenchant anything, they broke it
...
>blob doesn't get a refund ABSOLUTE CUNTS
>>559909921probably some measure so people don't mass disenchant their un'goro and timeways cards because they got "free" copies
>not saving your packs for launch daysoulless
>>559909771Time to hit legend!
>>559909921>>559910114Also I can't even craft any missing cards to get the un'goro signature card
>>559910242There is a warning when you disenchant but after you close it you get an error
So it's safe to open standard packs, right?
reminder to share your 6-0 brawl lists, we are all friends hereexcept for the monkfag, fucking hate that guy
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/decks-to-try-out-on-the-pre-release-tavern-brawl-of-cataclysm/For the uncreatives like me
>>559910403No, go look at the standard sets
>>559910750Appreciate this
>>559910334I'm not saying its working as intended, far from it.
Disenchanting is working again
So what the hell is community rally anyway, it's at 76% what will we get out of it?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GOLDEN LEGENDARY
>>559912379ooh i'm jelly
What is the most cancerous old meta deck still available for brawl??
i dont get this shitso i got trial cards for shit that will be removed in 7 days?
>>559912843the trial cards will be removed later in the year
Wow opened 73 packs and got nothing but dogshit so i can‘t make a brawl deck. Big surprise>>559912843Deathwing gets removed in 7 days. Everything else when the expansion after cataclysm arrives
>>559912843>so i got trial cards for shit that will be removed in 7 days?no. You got trial cards from the last 2 expansions which are still good for another year. So you might only need the new cards releasing in a week to make a deck.
>>559913447>Wow opened 73 packs and got nothing but dogshitthis is why I stopped pre-ordering a long time ago, no matter the expansion, after opening the packs it never feels worth it
>people UNIRONICALLY playing 5 mana blob
>>559913550The only benefit is that you don‘t have to craft any common/rare cards but i‘m not sure that‘s even worth it
divine shield DK op?!
>>559914453>core set frost dk best deck againCan they fix this shit
>can't craft or dust cardsbravo
>>559914453what list?
wow, 2 raptors from 5 mana elise location is DOGSHIT
>>559914941AAECAfHhBAaXoASy9wTLpQWjogbV5Qbh6wYM9eMEh/YEiPYEtIAF2+UG3eUG3uUGo5IHxawHoa0HmLAH5LEHAAA=
>>559915078yeah you can no longer make up for the tempo loss of elise on 4 with raptors, you gotta gamble with discovering a spell + armor to soak up the damage
>>559914453Share deckarino?
lost the mirror going 2nd
Guys, I won my first game in the brawl. The ranked anxiety is overwhelming me.
>make mage deck>add lamplighters >add random elementals and fire spells>win
owo whats this
>>559915907cringe breh. no furries in sight
>>559915515it's ok anon, you won't even remember how many packs you opened 1 month from now, this is just to keep us busy until the set comes out
quickdraw is back!!!!
?????????What the fuck is this?
>>559916370yeah i found out when my opponent topdecked sunspot dragon on 6.
>>559915117Just mogged some dh on this deck. It is pure dogshit dont waste your time, i won just by going face and praying.
well my free packs were a complete disaster what's everyone playing in the brawl?
X*l are you playing MY deck against ME?
Unlocked onyxia so now I'm gaining infinite HP in the brawl, + corpse explosion is still in so it's broken as hell
LMAO
>>559917057shit doxed
brawl is literally unplayable if you didnt paypig
>>559917057abuse early abuse often. gz on your refund + 2 win rewards free roll
don't forget your twitch welfare packs
>>559917057It's a bugJust keep queing and it should work
>>559916730Clowned on this cheap aggro warlock.
>>559916532did they already ban new cards?
>>559915907What skin is that? IIRC DH had that blue haired nelf and a belf as fem skin
>sheltered survivor can draw the fucking card it shuffles into the deckwhat where they thinking?
>>559917572Another win. Against priest this time. Welfare DK might be the nuts bros...
lmao
Who decided -1 health on this was an ok nerf
>>559918781It is my sexy wife I got with a lucky free roll.
hehei played this turn 2no removal? you lose :(
>>559919305meI said "hey blizzard don't nerf this too much I like dropping a fuckhuge minion with elusive on turn 4 just for playing dragons" and they said "no problem anon we'll like reduce its health by one, is that ok with you?" and I answered "lmao nice one guys it's perfect oh and also make Elise unplayable please"
>>559919321she won't fuck you unless you do her quests in wow on a maxed belf dh bro
>>559919736got so mad i forgot my pic
>they play frostwyrm's fury>I counter with frostwyrm's fury>he counters with frostwyrm's fury>I counter with frostwyrm's fury
Got 6 wins with my unholy DK, off screen are the giants, the 8 mana summon shit with rush and the DH dual class draw 2 cards
Is Elise a safe disenchant now?? The location has 2 charges and it can't copy on 1 mana anymore
get slopped
>>5599189074-1 so far. Lost to some paypig dk nigger.
>>559920669>Is Elise a safe disenchant now??nigga EVERYTHING IS A SAFE DISENCHANT, YOU LITERALLY GET THE EXACT AMOUNT OF DUST TO CRAFT IT AGAIN LATER IF YOU WANT ITand you're still keeping the free version they're giving everybody for at least another set cycle
>>559920782forgot pic
bro i fucking love frost dk brawl it's so fun
>>559919321I also got my wife in a darkmoon gacha, cheers
>get signature umbra and ysera>already have golden and diamond versions>can't disenchantk
>>559920782HOLY KEK
Holy cancerino
>>559921612KEEEEEK. 5-1
>play brawl>4/6 games are just frost DK mirror>they always draw horn and sindragosa>i don'thaha not rigged at all lol
legendaries i pulled from packskilling myself.
>>559921805so it only took 2 hours for the format to get solved? we're improving
>>559921849Merithra's going to be meta-defining though
>>559921935how is this surprising for anyone? brawl is always frost dk brawl because it turns out when a class has systematically better cards than every other class they tend to do better
>>559922059merithra is probably the only one Im glad I pulled and i guess azshara even though Ill never play DH because i respect myself
>>559920809oh righterino
>>559921849Ultraxion, Ebyssian, Azshara are goodBut yeah you kinda dodged all the good ones man how'd you do it
>>559922374i literally have the worst luck
>>559922374I feel like ebyssians strong but meta hunter decks will ignore him and just focus on playing the deal 8 damage dragon instead
I didn't really play that good.
NIGGER ROGUES ALREADY WINNING BECAUSE OF THISTLE TEA ASS PULLS IN ARENAFUCK NIGGER ROGUES
>>559922374>>559922874Bros, Ebyssian is gonna be free from the campaign. Also you're right, it doesn't fit the hunter game plan at all. It's the first thing to cut.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS NIGGER SHIT????
>>55992184910? I got like 5
>>559924894which 5?
>mfw got 6 wins on the first try with aggroslop
>Entry costs 300g >max reward is 4 packs, equal to 400g>this is assuming a roughly 75% winrate to get thereYeah, this is a scam. I got the achie for getting to 6 wins for the first time wich gives 2 tickets and a pack, but there's no point in playing beyond that.
VS are a bunch of fucking clowns
>>559921849How many packs anon-kun?
>>559926282it's a slot machine for paypigs who want the no loss achievement
>>559927006What does that give?
TAKING AIM
I only had 2 packs total
>>559927104cum cardback
>>559925582murloc pally?
>>559927219This is gonna be a good card
>>559927716Aggro unholy dh from here >>559910750
>>55992628275% winrate is child's play dia 5 players don't understand what a mercy it is that they can't queue into me on ladder
>>559909167>>559909059alright i'll wait le sigh
>>559915117Thanks for the deck anon I'm first timing death knight but this deck has given me 2 wins so far
>winstreak>lose against dragon warrior>get 3 more dragon warriorsi LOVE forced 50/50
give me a quick dick that doesnt have latest expansion cards
>>559929676sorry we don't sell dicks here.
>>559929676i would but it's a blue board
>>559924193Then he gets a free rerolled legendary, so all good.
What's the frost dk list?
Spell hater deck
>open card pack>actually get the card I neededIs there a better feeling in this game?
>open 80 card packs>don't get the card you wanted/neededIs there a worse feeling in this game?
anyone else hopes the trial thing comes back for wild expansions some day?
>>559929676>>559930770AAECAdvJBgLLpQXh6wYO9eMEh/YEsvcEtIAFrqEF1J4G1uUG2+UG3eUG3uUGo5IHxawHmLAHh78HAAA=
how boring of a human do you have to be to still be playing dragon warrior after this patch
>>559930818I am very powerful
>>559931576eating unsalted unbuttered baked potatoes with the skin on levels of boring
>>559931315I don't think there's much incentive to do that, Wild only exists because deleting people's favorite cards after rotation would be way too harsh, they don't actually want people to keep playing their old cards, it makes it less likely for them to get new ones
>>559931901OOOOOOR THEY COULD DO IT TO BRING THE NEWFOLK TO WILD.
>>559931530>play this>sub out the new 2 drop dragon for cryofrozen champion>it gives me kayn against a diaper warrior>he snap concedes when I play kaynLMAO get fucked retard. simply outskilled
removing the copy minion from 1 drop elise made starships really dogshit for this week
i think quest shaman is broken. it counts my minions with two types twice(ele dragon counted twice if i had no ele or dragon played, i think). might post pic after confirming
>>559932310that's what I'm saying, what is the incentive to do that? the main format is standard, they don't make any money by bringing people into wild
>>559932535>made starships really dogshitgood, fuck starshits. horrid mechanic
I wouldn't be playing Hearthstone if not for WildHaven't played a single (1) game of Standard for 5+ years
>>559933274What's so nice about Wild? What's the incentive?
Alright I've never seen this before>why is it free?>should I do it if I don't have cata packs?>the freeness doesn't carry over to something else so why the fuck not?thanks
>>559933481nostalgia/unusual combos/renethal/forgotten history
>>559933481you get to keep playing your cards, some of us have been playing this shit game for decades at this point>>559933604yeah just make a cheap aggro deck and you should be fine, depending on your luck you might even get 6 wins
>>559933481All the cards are available, that's all I care aboutI probably have a sub 30% winrate
>>559931190losing despite objectively playing better
>>559933680>>559933864This. The fact i can still use my Renathal, Necrotic Explosion, Demon Seed, Benedictus, Crabatoa or Genn is enough to justify play Wild.
>>559934617>CrabatoaBased
Are you guys having fun with the new cards? I am.
>>559934012
yay
>>559934819i'm having fun with the old cards. never thought i could get devilsaur mask lethal as shaman
Is this guy playable or should I dust him for Rag when Expansion hits
Help! I got my 6 wins and I still want to keep brawling.
>>559937448I mean, if you're not hurting for resources I think it's fine to keep playing, this is a format that will only exist for 7 days and never return, actual cataclysm standard will be very different, so even if the value is bad, you're paying for the experience
>>559936956Dust him for Commander Geddon
what am I missing about the elise changes??? stats and card text are the same??
>>559936956garbage. mill 2 cards to get 3 less mana
>>559931752But the skin is tasty and good for you and if you add tons of salt and fat it stops being a healthy dish
>>559938517locations have 2 dura, 1 cost can't dupe minions anymore, raptors were nerfed, think savage roar option too
>>559938932aww thats a bummervery basedbasedvery basedI like it
>>559936956How would we know?Even world championship winning players under and overrate cards all the time. Just wait a week
>>559933481it's fun
>>559931530thanks, went 5-3 with this. Last game opponent went lucky discovering death strikes (6 damage lifesteal)
>>559939292Asked since idk how to make that effect work. This looks like a discard lock card desu
ewwww a m*ge card
>>559933604>first run is free so you get beat up by buyers so you feel bad and boughted the bundle>yes, play frost dk. you can easily go 6 wins if you're not terrible and get somewhat lucky. absolute worst case you go 0 wins its still a free pack
The power level difference between the herald colossals and the others is insane...idk how Blizz team is this oblivious
>>559937448>>559937650if you always go 4+ wins its gold neutral vs just buying packs. every 6 win run is a 25% discount on buying packsas long as you always go 4+ and you're having fun no reason not to keep brawling
chat is this good? today's haul from brawl
>>559941396Still Hunter doesnt need Heralds to deepfuck your ass.
>>559941396the sovl difference is also insane all the herald colossals are slop compared to chromatus and magmaw
>>559941396it's by design, they literally ALWAYS do this shit
>>559941641kalec looked great from what I've seen, just a real solid cardcan't comment on the rest
>>559941396that's true, magmaw brutally mogs heraldslop
No better feeling than to put mentally ill trannies down, more so when I know they paid 2 tickets to get their diaper piggy tranny craniums bashed in.
>>559941641>sinestralol>chogalllmao>vulcanosLOL>ony>kalecon pass, you DO buy the battlepass every set right anon?!you'd have to post which epics you got but so far you got gigafucked anon
>>559938932>>559939023roar is untouched, the copy's stats got nerfed on 5 and 10. 5 mana copy is 5/5 > 3/3
>losing to tess rogue cuz he binked a 1/3 naked tess bounceebinanother high skill deck
lets gooo
Will this guy be usable in any deck or am I just bricked?
>>559943226Damn, the Shaman legendary is the only one I wanted
>>559943373nothing remains for you but suicide
>check out arena to try new cards >deck is bricked and wont let me queue>underground is nothing but chinese accounts
I just lost to protoss fucking priest why even is this deck still in the gameits been more than a fucking year
>>559944218really is a skill issue im afraid
>>5599315306-2, thanks anon
>>559943825Maybe I should just paypig to secure myself some more and better legendaries...
>>559939498>>559944309copied it from the comphs reddit, credit to evildave for posting itcongrats on the 6 wins anon!here's another one from a guy on reddit if you want a different flavor of f2p dkAAECAfHhBASG5ATW5QbtnweIvwcNkOQEkeQEhfYEh/YEsvcEmIEFrqEF1J4G4OUGpJIH0q0H4rEHjr8HAAA=can swap the 8 mana spell for bygone echoes and the 2 weapons for an extra acolyte of death+anti magic shell if you didn't boughted
I just can't stop winning. What deck does this guy go in again?
>>559944721herald decks
unpacked onyxia, she goes straight into some cancerous blood dk deck right?
Control DK >>559944721it buffs Harold
guess Ill be playing paladin
>>559944721hes basically kronx 2.0 and a autoinclude if your playing any herald class/deck
>>559945986holy paypig
Imply that getting all the cards for free unlocks the 2 signatures, it doesn't.
Hmmm Deathwing or Tess? Since colossal herald give cards from other classes anyway
just went from 0-2 to 6-2 what the fuckfirst two games were against frost dk with better draws than me and a fucking handbuff priest full of removal and heals, I was ready to go 0-3 but then I just kept winning
>>559949392Tess sexo
>>559949647Ok I'll just steal the enemy herald kek
>>559948525I got both
>>559948525getting the cheevo requires owning the actual cards not the trial versions retard kun
>>559950160Find a dictionary mouthbreather.
>>559933864>>559941298Thanks
got the warlock legendaries.... tell it to me straight bros am I cooked?
Should I preorder or not? I like the thought of sig colossal leggo and the rogue hero, I haven't preordered since Bitchwood
>>559951608you're going to get a signature colossal that is not only dogshit, but for a class you don't play. you will never equip the rogue hero
>>559951889Ok you were right, explain this
>>55995160860% chance the sig colossal will be unplayablethe skin is whatever, if you like it you like itits still a decent deal on buying packs with real money, that should be the core of your decision. the other stuff is just extra
>>559952317Which are the good ones? I opened golden Alex from the free gold pack and nefarius from 6 free packs
RNG
>>559951573According to the thread, these cards are horrendous since you slap down a bunch of stats on the board. It's good if your opponent can't answer them, but by the time you can play them you're either winning or losing
>>559952541the preorder sig colossal is only the shatter class ones, so>wickerfanghas a chance to be good in a go wide aggro druid deck>magmawprobably not good but is very hard to clear in a format with almost no hard aoe>volcanusdogshit>chromatus8 mana 2/3 with taunt>black bloodshitty blackwater behemothalex might be good but its only viable in a hard control priest shell. nefarius is probably going to be good, decent stats and you get a good card with a discount. solid part of a midrange or control dragon dk>>559951573its joever. chogall is the worst part of herald warlock and maloriak is way way WAY too slow. by the time you can play him and discard something, you could just play the thing you discarded. oh boy, a multi card combo to get a free 7/7!!!!!!!!
What do I do with this?
>>559953373>>559953542just played it in brawl and yeah it seems shit. Cho desperately needs taunt or something
>>559953896You shit on people and call them insects
>>559953896Rape everyone and leave
dk is going to be an absolute nightmare btw
>>559953542How many leggos should I get from the preorder? I want to play colossal rogue for the randunb xd memes to unwind at work, will I get enough stuff for that deck?
>>559951251>>559941298no really, thanks. shit's ridiculousgot some high RNG in the next game as well. i hate hearthstone
Warlock bros... What we did for deserve this?
>>559955231on average normal bundle will give 3, big bundle 4. you get a legendary every 20 packs on averagebut you could low roll and get 1 from the normal one and 2 from the big one, pity timer is 40 packsthat's assuming you already got your first 10 packs legendary between drops and the brawl. preording will almost certainly not get you the rogue colossal directly but you can guarantee it if you buy the big bundle and dust one of the premium art legendaries. you could probably get it by dusting the legendaries from the normal bundle. idk what other cards you'd want to put in that deck but you'd probably be able to make them if you preorder either bundleif you're at all worried about the cost don't preorder. I do big bundle+pass every set but the only money I spend on games is HS, magic when a fun looking set comes out and gog when they have fun looking games on sale for <5 bucks
>>559956793well here's what I gotfrom the preorder gold leggo: priest colossal (rip)sig leggo: magmawfrom the packs: nozdormu (yey), onyxia (fml, sig leggo from pass), kalec (fml, diamond leggo from pass), maloriak, also 2 golden epics if I can count them?all in all i think it was quite average?
>>5599559936 wins, 2 losses and 1 friend request from a DK who was actually trying I lost to another DK who hit all the right freezes vs my full board twice and survived with 1 hp, and one hunter who just steamrolled me frost DK is the most fun i've had in hearthstone in a long time
Thanks to the Frost DK anon who posted the deck. Easiest 6 wins of my life and I confirmed once again that Frost DK>Any other DK.
>>559958030thats pretty average. if you know you're buying the pass at least eventually you get to reroll kalec and ony
>>559958030close to what I got, pretty shit mate
>>559959158i will, that's the only thing i bought consistently
how much gold should i typically get in an expansion's time if i spend nothing and reach tier 220 consistently with the premium pass?
how much gold do you think the new class sets are going to be? 2000 each? maybe half of that?
>>559960760>class setsi don't like the sound of this
>>559961189It not only sounds awful, it WILL BE awful. Instead of a big good bunch of value from a mindset now they probably will pic a pair of classes charge you for each and add a bunch of bullshit. This company is disgusting.
>>559960364fucking add it up yourself 101-220 is 50g per levelthe gold from 1-100 is on the blogpost about each pass reset
>>559961754thought it's not listed anywhere
>>559961836https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24265937/cataclysm-rewards-track-refreshthe 1-100 gold rewards are always the same across all passes
>>559961718So they outright say fuck balance and clearly give ONE class a buff every few months while others bubble in dogshit meta
>>559962092thanks, I just came back after 7 years and there was no shit like this iirc
>>559962723>after 7 yearsthey added the battlepass about a year after you quit, it was end of 2020 or start of 2021
>>559962876i played from time to time but bought this expac's pass and made it to like 230 from start to now, i reached legend twice so i assume i played quite a bit
Anyone else spent all their tickets? The new cards are so interesting that I cannot stop.
if you want to bully frostcucks, play blood dk
>>559964256Black on black violence
>>559963930I wish I opened rag or azshara
is hearthstone doing the same shadoweverse does? Print broken op shit that makes the game be decided by the match up and not how the game is played?
>>559967187yes but also no. because being able to have 3 of a legendary in a deck is fucking stupid
6 wins with DK twice but the dullness of the gameplay is eroding my brain. I get the feeling that brawl MMR is different from standard because my opponents haven't been the best.
>>559968771>I get the feeling that brawl MMR is different from standard because my opponents haven't been the best.MMR is the same, the problem is the matchmaker sees you using a 'f2p' deck and matches you against other f2p decks which there are a surprisingly large amount of. the same thing happens when you create a "quest" deck in standard and find yourself facing shieldbearer quality decks & players
>>559967669when i played which was in the first 3 expansions very few decks benefited from the 3 legendaries in themselves. Almost all teh decks autopiloted and beat each other in a paper rocks scissor fashion OR relied on having good rng where you either stomped from turn 1 or breaked and lost. Im getting similar vibes from this HS expansion
>opened magmaw & cho'galloof, this is going to be a rough expansion
>>559972603just buy more lol
>sig magmaw, golden black blood and alex>nozdormu, kalec, onyxia, maloriakAm I gonna be safe?
I played against a Nozdormu Paladin and it was pathetic how bad it was in practice. He had a decent curve too.>turn 1 coin acceleration aura>1/4 poison whelp>end of turn weapon>turn 4 hammer of wrath>turn 5 nozdormu + swing = 7/7 and 4/7 whelp both shielded>turn 6 3/6 end of turn consecrationHe still died because I was playing frost DK with 4 year old cards.
the non herald classes shouldve gotten a hero card as good as deathwing
>>559969685hearthstone is better because we dont have the fucking retarded evolution and super evolution bullshit nonsense
>>559981908it's not coincidence that all the herald classes (except Shaman) are the devs babiesthey got to design an op mechanic that only works for DK, DH, Warrior, Warlock and Rogue lmaomeanwhile the get rest a shitty aggro focused mechanic (that will get farmed by herald value piles)
averaging 6.0 wins for the second brawl in a row
God I fucking loathe these prerelease brawls and they get worse each time. Everything playable is banned, so just get fucked if you're not a paypig.
Sorry but I'm not going to be opening my packs until launch day.
>>559984425Frost DK slipped trough the cracks.
>>559803358>DH fag cryingYou can eat a dick, fag
>>559949392>Wait a minute Lois. Deathwing is Deathwing. >But Tess can be anything. It could even be a Deathwing!
>>559984425thats literally the entire point, creating an environment where paypigs can wreck everybody elsenext one they'll make sure to ban all the good core cards too
How much time we have Ungoro and Emerald dream Expansions for free?
>>559985208it some how always does
>>559987627until the second expansion of the year comes out, the violet hold or something
Please tell me at least the golden one is playable
balanced card coming through
>>559988334Yep without knowing how the meta will shift the aura guy is a great ramp target in Pally with all the good auras.
>>5599876274 months
>>559988334they're both playablea effect like Krona's is always some support away from building a deckGelbin has been pally's build around for this whole xpac and seems like he'll keep being that in cata as well
they gave out so many packs for free I'm not even sure I want to buy more than like 50 packs when the set comes outI'm swimming in dust so I can just craft all the good legendaries
Do you guys think there is any chance of this shit ever getting nerfed? I just realized I have 2 copies
>>559991278doubt it very much
>>559991278really hard to say, currently we don't have any indication it could be nerfed but if they randomly decide to print broken discover cards in the next 2 sets that might change if you're hurting for dust I would say dust it
Whoa fucking mama, did I almost dust my REAL collection of Un'Goro and Emerald Dream cards with the mass DE button? Can I just not use that convenient button until the Violet Hold expansion comes out if I want to still have all those cards when this 'everything unlocked' gimmick ends? What a fucking trap
Ohhh nice free leggo
>>559994743how do you figure? did you count the dust?I don't think it should but with blizzard you never know
>>559994926A warning popped up saying thats what it was going to do when I went to dust the contents of my dropped timeway packs
>>559995047wow so it's actually like that by design? that's fucking stupidat least there's a warning
>>559994743What stupid shit so i cannot dust safely unless i go card by card? I mean i was going to dust Elise and just a bunch of other cards like blob but seems stupid to me...
Yo where do I netdeck for the brawlI'm a giga casual so I hgave no idea what's meta
>>559997271frost dk
>>559997421>just realized this brawl doesn't give you the cards and you have to unpack them (you can't even buy with gold before the expac hits)giga jewish shit i have 50k dust let me craft
>>559997271https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoKS8Tuc28g
>>559997601Cheers. Looks like I'm using Frost.
>>559997271>>559997810Undead with taunts seems favored into frost
Is Grommash the coolest card design in the game
so is every prerelease brawl just going to be frost dk timecuz it sure feels like this is every single time the same shit
I played the frost and someone added me and raged after i got godly rng
How much will the Azshara skin be? Anyone know?
>>559994926>>559994743>>559995826no, the warning is just buggedi just pressed the button and all my stuff is fine
Onyxia is kind of good
Blood DK will be the best next expansion
I think this might be my final version, kind of lacking some early minions but that hasn't stopped me from winning every run
I wonder why frost DK is always a problem hmmmmmmI wonder if historically a 0 mana card that gave you two mana ever was a problem in hearthstoneHmmmmmm very difficult one to tell I'm afraid
why the fuck am I playing vs starship dhI thought this deck was deck, havent seen a single one in months
>>560004518>>560006237New Cards Are Dogshit. That's the only takeaway from both of these posts.
i've legit never seen a game that is more transparent with rigging games than this ngljust played vs quest mage2 discovers on turn 2full quest on turn 4turn 5 first discover spell just instawins him the game on the spotlike yeah bro very realistic, curiously happens when i'm loss streaking too, surely there's no game director that has decided i've won too many and now it's time to lose every game
>>560006264don't go on ladder this week
>>560006620There are 9 new cards in the onyxia list
>>560006237They should experiment in some sort of a gamemode with cards being unable to cost 0 even with reductions besides something like Wisp or Penguin.
Nice brawl, Cora
>>560000000this better not be in a shitty anime general
>>560007990Blizzard won
>Cast Deathwing>Insta win>Almost every card you play helps that insta win conIs this dogshit design?
>>560009172what would you consider good design?
>>560009383Blob was good design, they made him pay for DH sins.
now 11 games in a row against DK
>>560010195And thats a good thing.
which sites have a lot of updated wild decks, doesn't have to be top tier cookie cutter, just decent decks that don't autojob
>>560010781hsguru has an wild section but I don't know how good it ishttps://www.hsguru.com/meta?format=1
Did they go actively go out of their way to censor the ass here?
>>560007705UpdatedJesus christ, Cora
>>560013834Why is everyone playing as a Death Knight?
>>560007705>>560013834I'm not playing the brawl anymore. It's just DK cancer now.
>>560013976best f2p class because of the coreset
>>560013976you can make a pretty decent aggro DK with just the coresetaggro always beats unrefined decks, but to make matters worse all Cataclysm mechanics piggy-back off each other and rely on legendaries/epics, so unless you roll the nuts opening making a good herald deck or a good dragon deck or whatever can be really hard
>>560013834I net decked and went 6:2 with some kind of frost aggro DK.Was surprised and went again.>0:3What the fuck
>>560014771Depending on your list, I would suggest adding whelp of the infinite, slitherdrake, and a few activators.
>>560013976f2p frost DK with core set is easiest class to play in brawl so literally everyone except paypiggys playing their BB deathwing/warrior decks are playing it
Is Standard boring to anyone else, or is it just me?
>>560011473Thanks gave me some ideas
>>560015956yeah I don't really feel like playing it or grinding wins in the brawl, I'm kinda just chilling until next week
>>560015956Now is possibly the worst time to play standard because of all the reverted cards that sane people dusted at the time.
>>560016706>>560017230No battle pass to grindNo event pass to grindNo gold to be madeI can't think of a single reason to play except for maybe working on getting 500/1000 wins for classes. Which isn't that much of a priority, in my opinion.
>>560015956it's okay if you weren't around to play starship decks, i'm near 500 wins with DH so I'm just jamming starship dh
hot take: if you don't have 1000 ranked wins in every class you shouldn't be allowed to play monk when it comes out
>>560018513There isn't going to be a monk class, that shit was incredibly unpopular in wow and carries almost no hype. They can already barely balance and design for the current classes, why would they add another?
>>560018513Which class are they removing for monk?
>>560018930what do you think they're gonna announce at blizzcon then? >>560019112hopefully death knight
>>560019197Probably changes to how sets are added, they already kind of spilled the beans saying minisets were out for this year only to pull back and say we're getting one for cataclysm. It's definitely something to do with that, maybe changes to how rotation happens and a new mode? It's impossible to say considering they have made !!Announcements!! before and not much has come of it.
got 3-3 with the frost DK deckall three of my loses were versus paypig deathwing niggers
>>560019440the meta has settled by now, people who aren't playing frost dk are expecting to face it
>>560019197>what do you think they're gonna announce at blizzcon then?EOS date
Why is husk banned if you can randomly generate him?
>>560019934because it was a blanked ban, none of the across the timeways legendaries are legal, they wanted people to focus on building around legendaries from cataclysmbanning every card that generates a random legendary would be awkward since they actually do want you to see as many legendaries from cataclysm as possible
>top 3 brawl decks are Undead DK, Frost DK and Blood DK
I love demon hunter
the day they put monk in I will stop playing. simple as
This brawl is the most fun I've had with Hearthstone in literal years, the extremely limited card pool and high lethality makes it feel like old formats. It's so nice when games aren't decided by 40 mana board swings 5 turns in a row.
>>560021127ok arthas
holy fuck....
>>560021113what if they release evoker instead?
>>560021164I've 6-0'd 9 times and only 2 of them were with Frost DK, most with Shaman or Priest. My only complaint would be that Deathwing's 12 armor is far too much.
>>560021113Panda superiority mindbroke this fag.F for him.
>>560021643I have a warrior deck with 6 athletic studies right now and I'm kind of scared of queuing.
>>560021643Why is Druid S tier?
>>560022061meant 6 wins and not 6-0's
>>560023558bunch of broken shit that was removed from arena for being broken is back in the rotation because blizzard is fucking retardedat least they kept the dragon egg banned
>>560024171What are the exampleI've only fought one druid in 2 arena runs and apart from the shatter it didn't seem too bad?
>>560024335the entire dragon package is back (-matron)
>>560024435>>560024335wait I'm wrong they actually brought back matron as wellit's even worse than I thought
>reddit absolutely SEETHING about people not being paypiggies in the tavern brawllollmao even
>>560024750I'm at my happiest when making droolers like those miserable by just playing cardsI love pointing frostwyrm's fury at their face
>>560024750I'm mildly seething because this is like the third time this happenedis every big boy brawl just going to be a frost dks clicking face?
>>560025448last time I played DH but yeah same thing basicallyif the core set + last expac cards are good enough to play aggro it will be the most played deck just because it doesn't require highrolling the new cards you'd want to play from 10-15 drops packs
the solution is to only allow cards from the new set and fuck the poorsotherwise you will always get an aggro deck raping everybody
to the guy who asked why druid is S tierthis is how druid rapes you on turn 3
Why can't warlock be good?
>>560026938the solution is to delete the entrance fee and rewards
arena is dogshitherald is brokenanother wasted season gj blizz
ok seriously what the fuck changed that starship dh is a deck again???????????
>>559991278Three at the moment, even!
>>560031463They reverted a bunch of nerfs to the cards that will rotate to wild
>>560031463arkonite is 4 mana again so felbeast can res it
>>560027574punishment for cube lock
>nestmatron back in arenaBLIZZARD YOU LITERALLYLITERALLYPATCHED THIS CARD OUT OF ARENA SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED THE CARD IS TOO STRONG IN ARENAWHY IS IT BACKWHY DO WE HAVE TO RE-LEARN THE SAME LESSONS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAINYOU LITERALLY HAD IT
The devs don't play their game.
as usual, aggro ruins the fun for everyone.
why make a card like deathwing?whats the point?
How much will the Azshara skin cost?
>>560038791If I had to guess... somewhere between $25 to $150It all depends if Blizzard puts it in the gacha.
>>560039076it's a skin in the browser shop bundle starting 24, so i assume it'll be like 25 bucks
Why don't they simply give everyone a free trial version of the new cards for the pre-release brawl? Everyone gets to try the new stuff, no one is forced to play whatever core set deck is the most broken, and maybe they even manage to sell more bundles by conning people into thinking that whatever brawlshit they brewed will actually be viable.
the new brawl is just a way for pay piggies to feel good about spending 200$ on virtual cards, isn't it?
i'd have bought this preorder if they had a slutfu skin as the exclusive
Anyone else having connection issues right now? My queue has bugged out twice forcing me to restart and now my game is stuck just as I was gonna get lethal.
DK bros... we got too cocky....
bruvswhich ones
>>560045263deathwing obviously
>>560045263dependsare you an homosexual?if the answer is no, you'll pick n'zoth
>>560043260yep. i remember people having the same complaints last pre release brawl.
>>560044824HAHAHAHA
>>560044824What the fuck?
>>560044824if it wasn't obvious, the cards are banned in brawl, not standard/wild
>>560047998But why? Are recognizing DK frost is over the whole bullshit exp?
>>560047998lol this is so dumbthere's just going to be another cheap aggro deck taking its placesorry blizzard your format is stupid and when you make it cost tickets, people are going to cheese
>>560047998this can't be happening f2p bros.. the 1% have won...again!
>>560047998no joke I think dk is still playable
>>560044824>>560047998if you thought frost was bad you now get to see how beyond broken blood dk is in the brawlenjoy your opponent sitting at 75+ life on turn 10
>>560044824LMAOOOOOOOOO stupid fucking aggro faggots
>>560049925blood and undead yeah, frost without frostwyrm's is trash. blood needs onyxia
I don't know why they nerfed it, it was nowhere near as bad as quest paladin during ungoro2 pre-release
Aggrochads farming retards and Blizzard has to act lmao
AggroFAGGOTS farming retards and not playing the new cards and not being paypigs and Blizzard has to act lmao
>>560021023Only the first 8 hours of a brawl like this are fun. You're too late.
Is aggro rogue the best new f2p brawl deck
I love how creatively bankrupt hearthstone players are, they get 2 whole expansions for free and they choose to only play quest warrior or imbue rogue or aura paladin.
>>560053596everyone is playing old classics but not those
>>560053596because those cards FUCKING SUCK
>there are people still playing Quest Warrior unironically
saarrior
I hit legend for the first time yay
>>560066226Congratulations! What deck did you use?
>>560067020Minionless and blob DH to diamond 5 and after the patch I swapped to cliff dive DH. I didn't know that there was no winstreak bonus at diamond 5 and beyond so I almost didn't want to bother with ranking. But the games with cliff dive were so quick so it didn't take me too long.
>>560066226check to see if you got the year of the scarab legend achievement
Is there somewhere I can actually see the levels of rewards for the brawl
>>560082646no
I conceded three times and collected my packs without a fuss, just like arena
Got chromatus and wickerfang from a single free pack, thanks cora
AHEM Blizzard... get on it
95 packs or so, got these>sig from preorder: magmaw>gold from preorder: black blood>gold from packs: Alex>normal packs: chromatus, wickerfang, nefarius, onyxia, kalec, dh location crabShould I be happy?
why the fuck does it have Timeways packs in there
bros... my foreboding flames, kiljaden and archimonde... i don-t wanna let them go...
I think I already hate this expansion.
>>560089747BLISSARTI PAID YOU 80 DOLLARSAND I'M LOSING TO PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T PLAY 80 DOLLARS?FIX ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT I HAVE TO WIN!!!!1
>>560091126Feel free to dive into the wildbin after them then
>>560090686AINT NO WAY???? LMAOOOOOOthatrs gotta be an error
>>560089747>10 mana combolmao
>>560092516they are preventing me from pointing frostwyrm's fury at redditard facesI will simply flock to the next best aggro pile and achieve the same result
>>560090686>>560093179no more hoarding standard packs for you goy preorder the latest expansion already
>>560094457Who the fuck is hanging on to standard packs for a year, and why
>>560094667why wouldn't you hoard them for new expansion releases? it's useless to open them later as by that time you already got showered in expansion packs and probably already have all commons and rares
>>560094667I have a golden standard pack that im gonna open next week
>>560094667I just like saving them to have a big opening when rotation hits
Give me a deck to jam and get this BS over with
why fuck does that dh "pull 2 minions from your deck that go back at the end of your turn" work with that 10 mana auto attack dragon???HS usually resolves effects in order of them starting/being played, including the order of end of turn effects, except here the dragons trigger before they return to the deck???????????just a little inconsistency to help make the most brainless aggro deck a little better? or a lot better actually
>>560101246>Cliff Dive DH>AggroAre controddlers really this delusional?
>>560101547if you play a spell to hit my face for 6 dmg turn 2 youre an aggro deck
>>560101547Everything looks like aggro if all you do is turn off your brain and drag removals.
>Retards can't identify AggroNext you will say Quest Warrior is Combo lmao
am I missing some fucking game logic or am I the worlds unluckiest player against tess rogueseems like every games comes down to the rogue hitting a random bounce on tess and... it always happens.
>>560102463it will die soon, hang on few days, anon
>see this deck? yeah no it's not aggro. and if you disagree you are gay and play controlwhy do even browse this thread
Ho hum, all cliffdiving shit goes away soon
Do you plan on gambling for Deathwing, Anon?
>>560103196nobut I'll paypig for Azshara if she costs 25 or less
also I like how nobody answered my fucking question >>560101246why do these effects resolve in that order??
>>560103427How the fuck should we know, none of us are Blizz's coders
>>560104229well I didnt expect to be the first person to notice this, I forgot all you guys do is insult each other
this ranked experience is among the worst I have ever seenthey should never do something like this againfucking rotate and add new shit properly
>>560101246>>560103427it should work as you describe but blizztard can't code for shit and it's actually random wether it works or not
>>560074402I didn't get any card back yet
Elements guide me...
>they actually banned DK cards from the prerelease brawl so paypigs can play their terrible diaper decks without fear of losing As if there needed to be any more proof who they’re designing the game for these days.
>>560112541Say something nice about our balance lead.
>>560113916>Diaper tranny controddler freakazoid that gutted wild then leftVomit induced. Indian coded human.
only a few more days until the expansion SAVES us
I thought there would be more celebration in this thread over Quest Warrior getting absolutely shit on. It's over, guys. You don't have to deal with it anymore.
>>560115616its pointless to feel joyful at control warrior getting nerfed because they will always release shit so its viablefor starters warrior got the best colossal by far
>>560115616I'm pretty sure quest warrior will still be part of the meta post-rotation, control players always find a way
>>560115675Hell yeah they did
>>560115616Uh, if this is true I might come back, thanks for the heads up.
>>560115616>no more zilliax>no more ceaseless>no more 2 damage x3 demonfinally we can play the game
jesus I finally tried Hunter with the Windrunner gals and holy shit they're so fucking strongSISTERS*clears your board*
>>560115616They're almost certainly going to over correct after everyone gets tired of the meta being nothing but curvestone two weeks post rotation.
>>560113916I have played physical card games and gone to tournaments in the past where the lowest dregs of society congregate. Zeddy feels like he belongs there amongst the stinking unwashed masses and furry tail wearing degenerates. Zeddy would fit right in, he even was that unmistakably nasal “nerd voice” that I thought had died off by now.
>>560101547In what world is it not an aggro deck?
>>560118858yeah that was also my same reaction when I crafted it for discover hunteryou really feel the power when you actually play with it, it's going to be one of the most important cards in hunter for the next year
>>560115848it 100% won't without extremely heavy nerfs to anything new or significant support in future setsit loses>brawl>shield slam>invader+safety goggles>ziliax>bob>ceaseless>new heightsand crocs got nerfedits only aoe is 6 mana deal x damage to all minions and 4 mana lose 5 armor to whirlwind 5 times. 6 mana to be worse than brawl is garbage, and the 4 mana isn't playable if you're behind since you won't start your turn with armor, and the cheapest armor gain card is 2 mana crocs so its really a 6 mana 2 card whirlwind 5 times effect. shield slam replacement is 3x the cost for the benefit of gaining 3 armor (so you're paying 2 mana to gain 3 armor LMAO). weak removal, weak life gain, no ramp that the archetype has relied on for 2 years now. control warrior is dead, a slow midrange herald warrior will take its place. it'll have the ability to go long, rag and DW are a hell of a pair, but its not going to be armor up and drag removal simulator
>>560110159you won't get the card back until rotation but did you unlock the cheevo? one of the devs said people hitting legend after the patch but before rotation will retroactively get the card back because they'll still have the cheevo on their account
>>560120570I'm gonna try it after the set comes out, but your analysis seems fair
>>560113916He was right about shadowstep.
>>560123546how?
>>560119009>AHHHHH NO A BOARD BASED META HOW HORRIBLE I BEG YOU BLIZZARD SAVE US MAKE BLOOD DK TIER 1 FOR ANOTHER YEARYou controddlers really want to push this narrative huh?
>>560113916why this absolute faggot is the voice of our community? why devs listen to him?
>>560124580I've always wondered how he survived the whole calling all women whores on stream thing
>>560124491The fast majority of people don't actually want a curvestone meta no matter how much they complain about boards not mattering. And this is proof by how unpopular paladin is even with crazy high %. All the harald classes (excluding warlock which is shit) are just ''Play minion on curve and win'', except that's also what the non herald classes are. Druid, hunter and paladin also got nothing but 'Play your minion on curve and win'' pare that with no removal or stabilization and you're looking at a meta where anything slow is unplayable, this means both a lot of midrange, no control or value, and no combo of any kind. Most people are not going to enjoy it at all which means they're going to complain which means they're probably going to change it very quickly with the next set and over correct.
>>560124580Hearthstone bas been rapidly declining so most content creators worth their salt have either stopped making videos or left for other games. Zeddy stuck around like a cockroach knowing that eventually he would become one of the top options for anyone still desperate enough to watch Hearthstone content. It’s not like he improved his content, everyone else above him just gave up.Also Zeddy and Rarran were some of the earliest Hearthstone channels to really lean in to making low effort algorithm slop content to boost their channels above the ones just posting gameplay.
>>560130458I think Hearthstone still has another solid 5 years before it gets the eventual "Hearthstone 2"
>brawl killed all hype
>>560137921I'm not paying money to use cards I've already paid for. It's a scam.
>>560137921>Bans all F2P chud decks>It's only tranny whales oinking and squealing
So the brawl is supposed to be a sneak peak about how the decks will play out but they ban cards that the majority of people will be using anyway?
>>560092723>default skins for everyone>except for valeera who is a pirateque?
3rd DK in a rowDIE NIGGER ALGO
Honestly i believe the meta next week will be a lot worse than what we had before revert.
>>560124580because all the good and entertaining people like trump and toast left
Zeddy will die in your lifetime anons.
>>560138879the brawl is to get people to buy the preorder for the advantage in having more cards in the brawl. that's it. but since there is no cute skins to obtain in the pre order i shan't be buying
>>560143467lol good
>Cliff Dive Demon Hunter>Armor Demon HunterWhy does Blizzard allow this fucking class to be so brokenly retarded easy?
Man I had forgotten how dogshit arena, I have no idea how anyone can find this fun. Played a rogue who literally, and I really do mean literally, played nothing but removal and every other card being pull something out of your ass. Played like 3 nightmare fuels, deja vu, honorable kill spells, dragon hoard and of course a bunch of herald. Actually impossible to have fun in this dogshit mode.
>>560145959Why you think people hate Rogue anon?
they still haven't justified preordering this shit
How the fuck is Ravenous Felhunter summoning this card? I thought it was 4 or less.
>>560153176it got reverted to the original (gigabroken) 4 mana 3/4
>>560154184>>560153176also fun fact the first nerf was DUE to felhunter the same way we then nerfed hog the same way we then nerfed blob. not saying hog wasn't a retarded card as well thoughbut then at 5 mana they just used the other felbeast lmao so between that and dk hijinks they just removed taunt until now where it got reverted
>>560144150thismy main reason for pre ordering emerald dream was the ysera skin
>>560154184it used to give 6 armor
I haven't seen anyone talking about this, but I'm extremely worried about this card and the effect it's going to have on this coming year of standard. Every single Priest deck is going to start playing the quest with no intention of completing it. There's literally no reason not to pass turn 1 if you get the best early game board clear ever printed in exchange.>b-but Priest is le bad!! Blizzard hates Priest!It doesn't matter if a Priest deck ends up being good or bad right off the bat. The mere existence of this card is going to invalidate virtually ever board based strategy. If any sort of aggro or midrange deck appears in the meta, people are just going to start playing Priest and immediately those decks are dead in the water. Think of how many decks in standard right now would be able to recover from a full board wipe twice by turn 4. I don't think there are any that can, and post rotation it's going to be an even weaker meta. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this is why the new Hunter dragon package is so insanely overstatted. They probably discovered in testing that it was impossible to develop a board when your opponent has two pseudo flamestrikes that each cost 1 mana.This same thing happened in Stormwind. There was no reason play for the board when it only allowed Mages and Hunters to complete their questlines faster. People stopped playing aggro, and without aggressive decks to counter them solitaire combo decks that only cared about finding their win condition as fast as possible thrived. I foresee a diaper vs. OTK meta approaching in the near future.
>>560160061probably going to get nerfed to 2 or 3 after a couple of weeks
just played against a dragon warrior and when he played that dude that gives both players weapons, I got the better weapon (even with the warrior one buffed)like, it wasnt much better and it wasnt a game changer, no gorehowl tier or whatever, but it was a bad outcome for himand he didnt rewindI am in awe at the restraint, to take a bad outcome over a reroll that would in most cases lead to a better outcome, but in few cases would spell desaster
running into so many cliff dhs, cant believe you niggers unironically tried to argue earlier this isn an aggro deck
>dh>dh>warrior>dh>dh>dhfucking shoot me in the facewhy did blizz do this, just fuck up the meta taking back nerfs for no reason other than "uuuh we dont really give a shit about these two weeks lol"
>>560162240Please argue how it is an aggro deck
>>560163374it hits you in the face every single turn and expends ressources for burn at the earliest stages of the game in a way only aggro decks do
>>560163526>>560163374the only difference I can tell is that Cliff Dive depends on a 6 mana spell. Most aggro decks depend on 4 (or less) mana spells.
>hex defense crystal>dh drops felhunter>I kill it>pops nothing>he concedesand this isnt the first time eithercant even feel happy about these wins because I would get completely destroyed by these utter imbeciles who dont even understand the core synergy of their brainless deck if I hadnt drawn that one singular answer
>>560163895it doesnt depend on itit's a finisher, plenty aggro decks run a high mana finisheryou may think it depends on it because it is an absolutely retarded finisher that casually hits your face for 15+ dmg behind multiple taunts
>got legend before the reverts>got 6 wins before the bansI'm hanging around here but I'm not even playing the game until next tuesday
>>560165574based
>>560165574Same, but I am doing my daily quests to scratch the itch, it's always less than 5 games so I'm not getting frustrated against any of the stupid decks.
dude I love playing 20 turns against warrior and then they just play ceaseless timewarp dragonincredibly fun and interactive>inb4 lol just kill them before
>>560160061Warrior has been doing this since quest yet here we are
man the elise nerf is harder than I expected2 uses is really very little, if you dont roll what you wanted you can just get like, a really shitty deal
>>560167097>didnt dirty rat the dragonngmi
>>560168312Good riddance.
>>560168312>if you dont roll what you wanted you can just get like, a really shitty dealthat's a good thing to be honest, elise on 4 and location on 5 has always been the least interesting way to use the card, instead of being a card that saves you from a bad spot, she's a card that rewards you for controlling the board because you can plan ahead how you're going to use the location you got
>>560168312i was so tired of curve elise and then have to play that "destrot location" dead card elise being shit is a good thing for the game honestly.
>quest warrior>aggro dh>quest warrior>starship dh>aggro dh>aura pally>quest warrior>starship dhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>560168312Is she even still worth using if your deck happened to meet the criteria WITHOUT you trying? Like for a Raf deck?
>unique, fun card with some real decision making like elise gets nerfed into the ground>every other cookie cutter shit that lets you hit face faster or is click glowing card runs rampant forever
>>560173084>unique, fun card with some real decision making like elise gets nerfed into the groundlmaooooooooooooh youre serious. lemme laugh harderLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>560174459yesif you disagree you just didnt think about it hard enough
>>560173084What was to think about>Oh the enemy is putting down minions? Raptors.
>>560172337yes, if your deck can free roll elise, it should play elise
>>560174598yep, no thoughtshint: you almost always know what effects you want to pick, that's not the interesting part
>>560130458Its kinda this but he really wanted 100K subs so badly too so he just stuck around until then and during that time he ended up controlling Blizzard and decided to stay around.
it is quite literally unbelievable the cards they gave druid in arenacompletely absurd, might be a bigger power imbalance than when the fucking dragon egg was still in the poolit is truly baffling. they really didnt give a single fuck. 0 curation (supposedly the main benefit of the area revamp)
did they update arena to give cataclysm packs? I don't need any more across the timewawys cards
>>560177549they updated arena to give druids their dragon package backwomen and children first
is the new expansion out? whats the consensus?
>>560179737it's not out until next week
the brawl killed us bros..
Daft how the way quests and the reward tracks work will incentivize me to stop playing like three days before the actual launch for the best head start
>>560160061This does sound horrible, they will probably change it to legendary minion
https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Cho%27gall,_MastermindCan someone please tell me where exactly this minion comes from, because I can't figure it out from looking over all the Warlock Cataclysm cards
>>560193612The heralds?
>>560193612every time you herald you get a minion on the board. in case of being a warlock that one
>>560193686>>560193920Righto I was under the impression that just buffed the cards wherever they were, didn't know it summoned something extra
>>560160061I'm not so sure. I think this card is overtuned as fuck for sure and 2 mana is a better cost but it's not just passing turn 1, it's also drawing 1 less card and having 1 less good card in your deck just to enable 2 other cards.Also 4 mana is a great clear but DK has a 4 dmg clear and from testing in the theorycrafting streams it just isn't enough to drop the sort of extremely overstatted shit midrange decks are going to be dropping.
No idea what they have no changed new expansion launches to come on friday. Don't you want people playing it over the weekends?
>>560202478>come on fridayIt should be saturday in china if that's the case.
>well last night ranked was awful, maybe daytime is better>queue up>cliff dhman I really need to kill myself, to waste my one life on this earth playing this dogshit
>>560204479I tried playing ranked for the first time since the patch and on my second game my hunter opponent played two 17 attack 0 mana charges turn 6. I have no idea how I'm going to clear my quests tomorrow to prepare for the launch.
>>560160061I'm a little happy that quest priest will be competitive, it's the quest I like the most
alright I got d5 that's as far as I'm willing to play in this suicide-inducing metasurely next month will be better, right?
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Cataclysm will revive the game and this general
>>560213225read this exact phrase dozens of times in the classic WoW general too
>>560213739I mean, logically speaking, what people really want is rotation, we are done with whizbang, perils and dark beyond cardseven if cata isn't that good, people will get excited about not seeing cards from 2024 anymore
I FUCKING HATE HEARTHSTONE!!!!!!!!!
>>560214795don't we all brother, don't we all
>>560213225it's aready killing arena thoughbeit
why do they always leave like a full month between reveals ending and the update coming out, it's so annoying
>>560222189they're trying to FOMO people into pre-ordering
>>560222189you have to let paypigs the time to play their epic fresh decks in the brawl
how long do they 2 free expansions last for? until rotation or just for cata?
>>560224436just for cata, when the violet hold comes out in june/july, they're gone
>>560210974we have truly become the cement
>>560224557i feel like it's better to wait until after the expansion comes out if you're a returning player and plan to play through the year then no? do they still give catch up packs?
>>560225480if you want to be safe, sure, it's only a few days away
new thread pls
Let it die, fitting for a CATACLYSM
>>560228359>>560228359>>560228359>>560228359move over
I hope herald decks become meta because I am going insane if it's yet another expansion gimmick which primarily exists to make arena unbearable