Trainwrecks Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/>>559776336
>>559804460Celeste should have had a huge unicorn head like Billy.
How did this game get so troonified so fast?
>>559804972first Valve game?
>>559804972you joined, don't worry when you kill yourself it willl be fine
>>559804691100% going to be like a half tranformation skin at some.point.
>>559804972Appealing designs unironicly. If the models were still all butt ugly we'd have a lot less.
>>559805420>single handedly destroys your entire gameYOU ALL SUCK
Most annoying way to build Ivy?
This game needs gore.
>>559805514perma flight full spirit bomber build
word cloud of the previous threadin case the other one dies
Who do I play if I'm tired, tilted and really shouldnt be queuing again?
>>559805680graves
>me in ladder games making sure to hyperfocus every "support" player at the expense of everything else
Oh, god, NOT AGAIN>*shapeshifts into a melee creep and gets 200 HP back*>*watches helplessly as someone climbs a stripper pole*>*gets shot and dies*>*watches yoshi prepare another nerf to ensure that next patch they don't even need to climb the pole*
When are they adding shiv's extended family?
How bad is Abrams nerfed.Can I still build him big health and big gun?
>>559805870Buy big spirit instead.
>>559805789>not immediately getting put in the kennel by DoormanIt hilarious the first few time then you just feel sad for the silver player
>>559805867
>>559805135Objectively speaking their online games were as male-oriented as they come.>Terrorists vs cops shooter as simple as they come>Team shooter game consisting only of psychotic men blowing up one another>Zombie extraction shooter where all you do is gore shit up with friends>Warcraft offshoot arena farming with cool dudes and monsters and babes
>>559805870I don't even notice but I always bought spirit on him anyway for memes.
>>559804460Based
are we using this thread
How much until normal players figure out that Yoshi has no idea how to balance the game?
>>559805870His gun is nerfed bigly, but his 1 got buffs and melee got huge buffs. Close range boosts melee attacks now, for example>>559806041>Team shooter game consisting only of psychotic men blowing up one anotherI have no idea how TF2 specifically has someone named shit like "Lilith the puppygirl she/her #transrights" in every single game now, when there is literally nothing trans appealing in the game, unlike how Deadlock has le sexy goths
>>559806304don't call me >>559780730 normal
I'll post it here too :^)
>>559806491It looks bad but so does base calico head so I'm neutral to it desu.
>>559806145I'm using both threads>>559806304They already have, I'm constantly seeing Yoshi get shat on on Clitter
>>559806304And thats why dota lasted so long.Perfect balance isn't fun, just enjoy the cycles of various bullshit until its your 1 heroes turn
Kelvin and Infernus feel really underwhelming.
>>559806552Calico's head looks so bad that this is a huge improvement, as far as I'm concerned. Literally a "I will now play her" type of change.
>>559806637Only kelvin, infernus still can melt you with a couple of hits while he runs into the sunset
>>559806592>until its your 1 heroes turnThis is me right now>I have mained punch viscous for months. I was even punch viscous when gun viscous was the meta>I was one of the first people to start using the new item ballistic enchantment on his punches a month ago>Punch viscous suddenly becomes meta and mad enemy team people accuse me of being a meta chaser
Sevenbros...What happened to us this patch?
>>559806745Yeah, smug blonde fits her character better.
playing wraith is so fun now brrrrrrrt
>>559806637>Kelvin He's a healslut, it's to be expected>InfernusBuild for afterburn and get toxic bullets, proceed to get flamed by the enemy team as they burn in your flames
>>559806808We're so good we get him nerfed by RICEING HARD keeping him perma S+
>>559806637Infernus is a NIGGER.>Good poke forces you to stay mobile or behind cover the whole laning phase>Good wave clear all throughout the game>Good escape tools if ganked or overextending>Highest objective damage since 1922
with ivy support is the recommended leveling order for max really 1 > 3 > 4 > 2 ?
>insta-killed again by phantom strike echo shard melee venatorwhat the fuck is the counter to this shitno, debuff reducer does not let you parry during the stunno, i dont have the reaction time to activate unstoppable/counterspell the millisecond that venator shows up on my screenno, saving up 16000 souls for debuff resistance is not viable
>>559806979It depends.I usually max 1 firstlevel stoneform enough for the cdrthen max tethermix points into ult as I feel is good.
Every game there's someone on my team going 0-11 at 10 minutes. Why is the matchmaking so shit? They need to add the limit for party queue if your ranks are too far apart so retards in Eternus stop queuing with their friends who have never played the game.
>>559807181i mean phantom strike isn't that high range, you should be able to see him if he's within range to do it
>>559806637Infernus is slept on
>>559807181cheat death if you are that desperate
>>559806808not the biggest fan of losing speed but oh wellalso the ult change is funny because I keep forgetting that I can now move during it without T3
>>559807223they just need to split ranked and normal queues, its that simple, game has enough players now eternus/ascendant nigs shouldn't be in the same pool as their noob friends
>>559806378>there is literally nothing trans appealing in the gameWhilst I understand the frustrations it's also not like transgender people can't like anything not specifically for themThat's like saying a Mexican isn't allowed to love DBZ because they aren't Japanese
Im trying to become a bebop main. What am i in for?
im done with rem he fell off tremendouslyi will now exclusively play ivy and drop fed victors like a nuclear bomb at the enemy team
>>559807181Ever heard of counterspell? Add Rebuttal if you are bad>>559807526Great fun and many tears harvested in Street Brawl
>>559806378>TF2It's because it was huge in internet meme culture and those people are always eternally online.Also valve didn't give a shit what anybody said on tf2, so they could be degenerates without fear of getting banned.Also its a very fun game
>calico suddenly S++ tier zzz
>>559807526People hurling slurs at you. Both allies and enemies
>even a fucking yurifag was able to make a proper OP>retarded gachatranny had to brag in and make an extra thread, fucking up the OP too. I apologize to yurifag. At least you can make a proper thread, unlike gachatrannies. And thanks to anon for this thread.
>>559807181Stop standing next to walls you nub
>>559807741Delete Calico. She violates the core tenant of character design.>burst damage>mobility>SurvivalPick two. Calico has all three.
>>559807890Can you stop bringing up men in dresses you seem mindbrokenIf thats your fetish then fair enough but keep it to yourself
>>559807952NTA but>literally every single open space is cluttered with shit to get knocked into
>Raping an Abhrams faggot so hard he ragequitsName a better feel
the enemy victor got angry
>>559808258>me when i try to collect free 60% wr and lowrolled
>>559808258>Calico/Ivy on the same teamValid crashout
>>559808140doing god's work
>>559804460metro crashing out rn
>>559808140>Wraith, Doorman, Seven, Victor, Calico and M&KJesus ChristI'd quit against that draft as well
>>559808583humiliation ritual
>>559808258In-character Calico.
What's next for our heroes and main characters of Deadlock Maurice and Krill? Another round of buffs, mayhaps?
>>559808472these were the teams
>>559805587Venator’s stakes need to stick corpses along surfaces like HL2’s crossbow
Why do they cause so much seethe?
Who is the most hated Valve player base? It's definitely Tf2 or Dota right?
DBZ is the most tranny shit imaginable. Stop posting your garbage reaction images here.
>>559808829Actually good idea, make a thread in the forum if Yoshi sees it they'll maybe put it in the backburner.
>>559808943tf2, nobody gives a shit about dotards
how build Yamato nowadays
When are they buffing Silver?
>>559808808Even more worthy crashout since you buy spirit resist and cuck all of victor's team.Like wtf is the matchmaking man.
>>559808258>calico calling some1 else braindeadi will find that nigger irl
>>559808808i dont care about teams being random/no draft but there needs to be some logic in how it works
>>559809125yeah if they keep overbuffing chars like this we need draft, it was ok before but if they want everyone to be thanos then let us deal with it
>>559808943TF2 are the most insufferable retards who cry that their 20+ year old game isn't receiving support
I like Mo&Krill because they don't need many items to be useful, but between having such a simple kit and how strong they are right now, playing them gets boring after a couple of games. What are some other heroes like them but with more nuance? I've tried Bebop, but I feel like I need a large investment to either be tanky or deal damage. Holliday looks like fun, but maybe she's a step too steep in terms of mechanics.
>>559809254just put 50 matches as holliday to understand her kit
>>559809229How hard is it to ensure that each team gets at least one gun hero. It doesn't have to be perfect but anything at this point would be better otherwise you get games like that where the enemy comp has balanced damage meanwhile you're all spirit and by 15 minutes its over.
yuri game :3
>>559809237Reminder that they somehow hate on counter strike for no reason despite valve favoring Dota 2 I don't think Gaben appeared in a single CS Major unlike him making appearances in TI
I have been put into low priority matchmaking.
>>559809020>nobody gives a shit about dotardsNo one gives a shit about tf2tards either but thanks for letting us know you consume tf2 drama slop>R-REMOVE RANDOM CRITS>WHAT IF LIKE...SNIPING WAS OP!?Jump off high tower you're compromised with the Uncle Dane wrongthink.
>>559809254Kelvin now that his grenades shits out heals and you dont need to focus active healing items. His ult is sorta like M&K's too.
>>559809125victor in and of himself has no right to complain about other characters or the matchmaking
>>559804972Transsexuals love colorful games in general.Transsexuals are usually furries, case in point >>559809519And it must be said Yoshimitsu invited them in with the Pocket thing.
>>559809612Unironically? Enjoy the most social matches you'll ever play. Everyones got something to say down there. I kind of miss it...
What if valve added random crits into deadlock
>>559809770Low prio is the most fun way to play this game. I had a lane mate crash out so hard on me he added me on 2 different steam accs just to call me a nigger
How I feel against seven
>>559804972For me having LGBTSlop characters is fine as long as they don't alter canon for DEI's sake. As in, what LoL and OW usually do.Celeste might be lesbian/trans? Okay, fine, nothing pre established.Redditards trying to make Mina and Paige lesbians/bi just because? That's bullshit.
>>559809897it would be extremely painful
>>559807635More for me. I love him.I'm still a middlegrounder who mostly builds support with him, but yesterday we had a spirit nuker Rem on the enemy team who finished the match with 80k in damage. Shit was ridiculous.
>>559809758>Celeste calls pocket a he>A Valve employee on Discord said it was a mistake teehee>Pocket has been ambiguously nonbinary ever since he came out>Celeste's voice acting is recent enough to have slork memelines, something Apollo and Venator don't have>Celeste misgendering Pocket somehow made it past the writers, voice director, voice actor, coders, playtesters, etc, and made it into the game, despite being a mistake>Valve can't stop being ambiguous and just clearly say whether or not Pocket is a nonbinary tranny who's pronouns are known by literally everybody in the city despite him being in hiding and publicly dead
>>559806378>Close range boosts melee attacks now, for exampleThat was the case since Deadlock first popped up?
>>559805587Ragdolls are way funnier than gibs
Silver forcing me to eat out her amazon rainforest
>left>"OHHH MY HECKIRONO I GOTTA BUY THE CURSE ITEM SO I CAN COUNTER BY MISSING THE OPPONENT AND I ALSO GOT TO BUY COUNTERSPELL JUST TO FAIL AT COUNTERING AN ULT AND NOW ALL MY SLOTS ARE WASTED">*loses*>Right>"Damage, damage and more damage. Oh and a green. Splended">*wins*
>>559804972I hear transgender individuals eat food and wear clothes too. You really should stop using those or you'll be just like them!!
>>559810371Why not both?
>>559810546butthurt ugly tranny detected
>>559810546>stopping to eat food, drink water, breathe air, and wear clothes, because the trannies do it too
mina for the last time my frenulum isn't a vein
I don’t care about winning, I just want to piss off the enemy as much as I can. Who do I play
>>559804972Valve appealing to gay shit with the latest updates and the whole they/them debacle.That way, all the friendless retarded trannies who dont actually play the game can shit up the discord and reddit with their faggotry and make it seem like everyone actually playing the game isn't calling each other faggot every match
>>559810504How true is this garbage
>>559810814doorman
>>559810814Viscous.
>>559810546He is referring to those who no-life trooning only the forums.
>>559804972>>559805420so they paradoxically flock like locusts to games with straight normal people but dont support games tailor made for them making sony lose 400M+ on games like concord?
>>559810814doorman until the hotfix
>>559810902>>559810980What’s the strat? Kidnap people with trolley and doors?
>>559810814Doorman, Mokrill, ViscousIf you are a real shmoover Pocket and Sinclair
>just got 6% weapon dmg randomly from a boxlolyou guys have no idea how much bitching you'll hear from league players about box buffs rng when the game drops
>>559804972It didn't.Despite Deadlock being an open secret, it's still very much unknown to most normal people.The result is that there's a lot of internet addicts, autists, neets and lonely men that play it, groups of which an alarm amount are trannies, and trannies are fucking LOUD online because they have literally no lives.I don't think you guys grasp how much they don't have lives, most of the time they do nothing but obsess over whatever caught their eye in the last few months and they will post about it non-stop until something else sweeps them away.But for every Deadlock player that's a tranny, there's bound to be at least about 80 normal people if not more, they just don't stick out because they're largely normal.
>>559810980who's gonna tell this guy
>>559806491at least take a screenshot after the shrine stun effect stops dude
>enhanced crippling headshot>enemy basically goes from 100 to 0 in a secondnow this is fun
>>559811274
>>559811072Practice the vortex > cart > door on the moving dummy in the sandbox, but the minimum you need is bells and your ult to piss people off
>Victor is rotting and in constant painMan, I'd just ask for better quality of life and hire a detective.
Gonna start learning Pocket !t. 0 mechanical skill
>>559810814loss of control is what causes the most frustration so door / mo / viscous in that order
>team sucks>go afk and do boxes and jg for 30 minutes >entire team is arguing and saying report me>show up to a fight once>wipe>someone talks shit to me "WOOOOW LOOK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN U PARTICIPATE">go back to farming until they beg me to rejoin>do so>winit's that easy
>everyone says wraith is broken>get 1/9 16k player damage wraith on my team
>>559811554Fuck you
>>559811554fuck you bloody bachod bastard fucking farming dalit, fucking join teamfights you bloody son of a whore dog
viscous should be able to cube enemies with reduced healing
>play drifter>do well at all>entire enemy team has learned the power of friendship to hunt my ass down on repeat>rest of my team can be at their patron it doesn't matterwhy?
>>559811554so what you're saying is they were right
>>559810504knocking down someone into a slowing hex is so funny people whining about CC actives are soulless riot automatons
>>559811554SIR DONT REDEEM THE AFK
>>559811554>pedo is retardedyep
>>559811414He's really fucking easy, it's just deciding WHEN to button mash and go in that is decently hard.
>>559811554wow you really owned those libtards with your inferior soul count bro
>>559811914Its ok. She may have been built 5 years ago but she was designed as a teenager.
>>559811103They could just make it based on your highest investment.
>exist near venator trap>it sucks me into itself pretending it's dynamowtf man
>>559810371>Not wanting Mina Ryona when she gets shouldercharged by Abrams
>>559809758>too brown and ESL to realize that pocket's bio just mentions they/them because his gender/identity is supposed to be ambiguous>We as the audience know who he is but no one else does because "Arin Fairfax" is deadDeadlock is an invite only early access, it has not yet been localized for fragile europoors.
>>559811072Just spam bells since you automatically win lane the moment you hit level 4 and have level 2 on bell, since it becomes a 300-400 damage nuke that is impossible to miss and hits around cover. Get bells to level 2 and maybe max it, then max your ult, you barely even need to use the doors with how much damage and how invincible you are.
called an Ivy a stupid fuck after he wasted my Warden's ult with his ult he said my bad then I felt like a complete asshole
this game will not survie for longer than a month if we dont get a linkens sphere itemdoorman, wraith and mohammed&skrillex pressing ult on you for a free instant kill will make people uninstall for good
>>559812248>see man>"hmm, who might THEY be"No, weak ass excuse.
>>559812248yet you don't you call him arin fairfax instead of pocket
How do you response without sounding mad?
>>559812391"Pauselock"
>"we removed unit targeting on shiv ult, it was just too strong!"meanwhile, doorman, m&k, wraith... etc
>>559812369>>559812354And because you browns drew so much attention to it; trannies saw it and latched on because HES LITERALLY JUST LIKE ME. You rats played yourselves.
>>559806979>>559807185I literally just rush stoneform t5 air drop t5 then tether t5. web double stun gg.
>>559812229why is ivy brokent. retard
>>559812321>carry a victor against the whole enemy team>nuke+silence+stun+burn>victor kills half the team and dies>I kill the rest>we take two walkers>victor says "wtf was that play???????" because he diedyou can't win
>>559812391>responserespond*
>>559812431just gets funnier everytime
my nigga trapper in the cut
they need to make combo a mini melee skillshot
>>559812391i don't care if i sound mad as fuckmy anger is justifiedpiss BEFORE you queue you ADDICATED APE
>>559811914Pedos are often geniuses though? Look at bill gates, stephen hawking, elon musk etc
>>559812391spam p for 30 seconds
>>559812391i talk about yaoi
>>559812248>>559812354Pocket should of looked like pic related with an ambigious voice. Would of made a lot more sense if no one knew he was Arin, at the least he needed a hat.
>>559812369>Why don't people call him Arin Fairfax then?!Saar, your reading comprehension?
>>559812435Worst win rate in the game btw
What do I build on warden
>>559812654>CEOs and jews are geniuseslol lmao
>>559812778cope or something
>>559812725you called him pocket
lmaosecond time this week that htis has happened
>>559812772Mercurial
>>559812391
Letting Pocket be able to use stamina during barrage AND use cloak during barrage is actually an insane fucking change on his outplay potential.
>>559812686+1we unpause ASAP every time here
>>559812874of course it's a fucking wraith shiv and mcginnis.
>>559812140This cums the Seven
>>559812391I pause again the moment the game gets unpaused
Bros, streetbrawl is fucking unplayable with the new update, they way overbuffed every single aoe damage over time ability so now every game you can't stand anywhere in the fucking lane without immediately ticking for 300dps on the first round, there is no counterplay, there is no item you can roll to not have to deal with it, god help you if there is more than fucking one of them on the enemyt eam
I want my lane partner to know I'd suck their cock (especially if it's a tgirl gock) if they asked. Which Hero is optimal for this?
>>559812538retards just refuse to buy debuff reducer, reactive barrier, counterspell etc then get stunned for 2s and piss their pants on the forums.
>>559812874No joke the most enraging part about this game is that people can't macro for shit. I'm not sure if they come from Rivals, Overwatch, or some other crap like that but I often times have to do everything myself while everyone brools and I've won games before because the enemy couldn't macro as well.
Are we still pretending Rem doesn't need buffs or are we done with that?
name one reason besides “muh niggress” on why this design is bad. Thank god none of you retards here are on the art team.
>>559812909at this point they need to let holliday melee while lassoing so we can put 3 bombs in someones asshole
>>559778387Every change to Apollo was a nerf except for swapping his ult damage for some scaling which is a wash, along with every single favorable matchup he has being buffed out the ass, and every unfavorable matchup he has also being buffed out the ass. You Apollo derangement syndrome fags are fucking insane. What fucking rank are you people where you're still crying about Apollo in the Wraith Calico Viscous Kelvin Doorman Victor patch. You don't even need Slowing Hex or Spellbreaker, literally just buy Spirit Resilience for 3.2k and he passively becomes pointless to play against you, if you do buy Spellbreaker or Slowing Hex as well then he'll literally never target you ever again. Extremely overrated character.
>>559813157Paige.
>>559812874I've thankfully never been on the receiving end of this because I play with a friend who trades turns being janny with me, but I've seen it twice with enemies and it's fucking great.I'm so glad that minions are an actual objective threat now for the base.
>>559813157mina and literally any and every healslut character
>>559812229Is McGinnis really broken right now?She does seem stronger spirit and potentially support but I dropped her for now since my hybrid build got shit on by the gun and specter changes
>>559813128I don't give a shit about jeetbrool balance.
can you not destroy the indian granny's trap?
Is the game bugged for anyone else? i keep getting stuck with 11/12 people connected>>559813212its a good design she just needs an art pass thats all
>>559813212even victims of socioeconomic factors hate her design. saw a xwit screenshot clowning on her spray paint hair KEK
>>559813212She looks like the blackest gorilla nigger in the world therefore her design is bad since it's not appealing.
>>559813310You cared enough to respond.
>>559813212Literally just the hair, lq head model, and suitpants.
>>559813195Where's Ivy? She's rock hard
>>559813342no he just gets to make massive sections of the ground untouchable, have fun :)
>>559813128street brawl purely exists to filter out people who dont want to play the real game mode
>>559813128This but in standard. Doorfag's bells are hitting harder than Gay Talon's green arrows in lane phase. wtf
>>559813212if wraith and calico designs (race) are so good. where are the fanart?
>>559813157I do this but only for fellow gay chads
>plays a game where the setting is occultist NYC>complains there’s blacks, trannies, sand niggers, punks and degenerates in its rosterHave any of you been to NYC?
>>559813510They nerfed the spirit scaling, but buffed the base damage. So early/mid game it hurts, but falls off during late.
what do i do when gun geist presses 2 on me when she has slow+reverb
>>559813509>paradox says at the start of the game "wtf I meant to queue streetbrawl"I swear they're giving these retards rank increases for playing that meme mode.
>>559813212Her Somalian bulb head and receding hairline does her no favors.
Deadlock needs a racist redneck.
>>559813212dude even black people hate her design, she looks bald
need rem guro snuff
>>559813601Wraith has fanart. Calico is just an ugly nig while Wraith is a qt 3.14. It's literally West African phenotype (Calico) versus East African phenotype (Wraith)
>>559813729based black qween
>>559813656>So early/mid game it hurtsWe're playing in a period of the game where the early game matters a fucking lot so yeah getting to throw out a 350 damage bell every 4 seconds in lane is actually a big deal.
>>559813757already exists mate
>>559813806 (Has no idea what he is talking about)
So realistically what will they do to fix Silver?Rework some of her abilities?Just change her numbers around?
>>559813724He's already here. He's you, the player.
>>559813819There's no way to punish the doorcuck either because his other 3 abilities are designed to make you fuck off. He snowballs his lane out of control every time.
>>559813212The awful combo of her hair, fuck-off glasses, and literal muh ancestors ethiopian chimp head. I mean seriously, even me, a virulent racist, barely thinks that black people head shapes look like that. I would be annoyed about her head if I were black. I don't even think Wraith is all that bad. Also her voice pisses me off. So yeah just change just about everything and she'd be fine lol.
>>559813212I don't want to see niggers in my games. Both Calico and Wraith should be bottom-tier heroes for that reason.I don't need a reason other than that.
>>559813724There was a racist redneck on my team once but it was a puppygirl tranny that didn't bother voicetraining whatsoever
>>559813438>hairIt’s a circle/sphere. It fits perfectly with other round elements on her face (glasses and earrings), MUCH better then a straight up afro wig.>Iq head(?????) English please>pantsIt 100% fits her “mystical candle making, nu-new age occult woman” aesthetic.Like I said, thank GOD none of you are artists or designers.
>>559814001I played him the other day for the first time and was blown away by how with only t2 bells I was raping everyone even harder than dynamo who has to go fucking t3 into stomp to make it good. that's 5 points you can just spend on anything else for the same effect.
>>559814064>racist redneck puppygirl trannybro really checking all the boxes in character creation
>>559813909good increase productionfuck the nigger owl
only thing I like about calico is her shooty prostethic
>>559813724As an aside, I am growing to hate Drifter's voice. Part of it is that no matter what accent Matt Mercer puts on, I just instantly hear Matt Mercer and his stupid face. And the creole accent for a vampire has been overplayed since True Blood.
>>559814132nta but the model needs way better execution to do justice to the design.Probably because its literally unfinished though or straight up placeholder
>get kicked out of match>try to rejoin>can'tcool.
so many fotm doormenshtis in every match suddenlyall they do is spam bells
>>559813635My biggest problem are the scots
>>559814487bell is kind of his main poke ability
>>559813729>make “white washed” black peopleNOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS NOT BLACK ENOUGH!!! WHERES OUR HERITAGE>make an actual stylish black womanNOOOOOOO SHES UGLY!! TOO AFRICAN!!! I NEED HER WITH STRAIGHT BLOND HAIR, LIP IMPLANTS AND FAKE EYELASHESA the end of the day I think it’s just hate all of you subhumans who think they know better then Volvos art department. First game in DECADES with unique and interesting designs, but all the cattle want is the same old same old. Its so tiresome.
>>559814487I'll show you to your room
>>559814031>reddit spacing>trying too hardLeast obvious tourist
so how do we deal with Calico? any items we can rush to prevent her from snowballing?
>>559814685no
why the fuck does Wraith's ult disable stamina? that's ridiculous
>>559813635We need the halal heroesmohammed and kareem don't count, I don't think they even care about ramadan
im so bad its insane. I always fall apart in farm and cant keep up. Kills>wave so do I have to teamfight more?
>>559812248This was always retarded cope. Even the characters that know exactly who he is refer to him as they/them.
>>559814320I thought Krill was voiced by Matt Mercer as well so they fooled me there.
>>559814759zabaniya ult
>>559814797just play about 200 hours and you'll start to get it
>>559814487>NOOOO DON'T BUILD SPIRIT DOORMAN THAT SHIT IS CANCERok I'll try gu->AAAIEEEE GUNMAN IS EVEN MORE CANCER, NERF HIM TO THE GROUND GABE!!!What causes this mental illness?
I'm so glad there is a White Calico mod her black model was ugly as shit lol!
>>559814559>stylish>Calicoretarded
>>559814320I don't give a shit about American voice actors but I fucking hate the cult of personality that some people have around them, there's tons of people who try to get their signatures at conventions and shit
>>559814559THRUKE
>>559813635Italian mobster when?>wraith took thatDon't care. When? Make him an italian skeleton.
>>559814559her pants look like what my 80yo grandpa wears bro
>>559814559Maybe don't listen to tw*tter retards I've not met anyone who complains about this stuff in real life.
>>559814559HOT TAKE ALERT!!!!!!!!>HOT TAKE ALERT!!!!!!!!HOT TAKE ALERT!!!!!!!!>HOT TAKE ALERT!!!!!!!!You can make a sexy black woman.
>>559814936it shouldn't bea character where u can just ignore the DOORS ability on doorman and do well
>>559814750icefrog is retarded
>>559814559So if a black character doesn't even appeal to blacks, who is it for? Whatever affluent white liberal designed her at Valve? Seems racist to me.
>watch Rem gameplay so I have something cute to look at>it's always just 40 minutes of him walking through tunnels and minioning Sinner Sacrifices Damn it all.
>>559813729>>559813212you fags do realize that calicos model is still a WIP, right?shes gonna get a remodel just like vyper, grey talon, holliday etc, shes clearly not finished
>>559815178If the whole point of the character is being sexy (i.e Mina) then is ok. Calico ain’t supposed to be “le sexy”, she’s a weird cat lady whose house probably smells like cat piss and sented candles, which is COOL and UNIQUE. Theres 6472829483920 billion “sexy black ladies” characters, but none sticks cause they all GENERIC COOMER SLOP.
rem is not cute he's just fucking cringe and annoying
>>559811954The build I'm seeing doesn't have Majestic Leap, I should throw it out right?
>wraith gets in ult range>instant death, no counterplayi never want to see this nigger in my games again
>>559813212Close enough, welcome back queen.
>>559815631This. Rem is just the Reddit wholesome 100 character
People have been getting very angry at me for telling them to stop taking (and losing) teamfights while we're 40k behind
>>559815589And they've made such great decisions like removing the cursed arm of Pocket. You have to keep on companies and pester them so they know they went off track. In this case, they went off track by making Calico black instead of blonde British tomb-raidery.
>>559815631>>559815746Jealousy isn't a good look.
>>559815631you're right rem is not cute he is sexy
make online matchmaking unavailable until there is a 10 minute tutorial explaining not letting that giant wave crash into objectives is significantly more important than that tier 2 camp. I'm only in midlow, but if I spectate my shitlow friends all they do is let the other team have infinite map pressure and blame their teammates while seldom shoving waves themselves.
>>559814559>>559814132this NIGGER is PISSED KEK
>>559815130They'll make a fat italian pizza chef character, leave it or take it
>>559815253>if it doesn’t appeal to a single deranged Twitter retard then it doesn’t appeal to the whole demographicretard. Also, not every piece of art/design needs to be made to “appeal to an audience”. If you do it properly (which I think Valve is), some people will like your ideas no matter what the “appeal” of it.
>>559815830>>559815835im rem goo goo ga ga
What's the plan?
>play video games to play reality>it's a game where a stinky guy who every female wants to fuck just because he's tall, wins every time thanks to his aura
>>559815771>enemy team gets rejuv>entire team immediately ziplines into the middle of blue lane to start a teamfight in the open instead of defending base
>>559815830this but rem's facefucking him instead
>>559813163I bought counter spell, CS'd her ult but still got stone formed, stuck my her vines, then gunned down. Also had spirit resist. Still basically got one shot.
>>559812874>w c9made me chuckle
>>559815917Rem isn't a 30 year old virgin.
>>559815881The point is no one likes her design except some lefty white contrarians, likely trans from bluesky if I'd have to guess. Maybe chasers like dylan.
>>559815958>who every female wants to fuck just because he's tallthis is true though
>>559815958*to escape reality, fuck
Sex with The Hidden King.
>>559815980Id be with you if that was Mo instead of Lash
>>559815958the best part is the gore potential
Which hero should I main if i'm fat bald brown and short?
>>559815845They need to finish the game first before making a decent tutorial. A lesson-based tutorial divided in parts with the rubberbandy characters would be soulful.
>>559816308mo
Rem and Ivy, call it... Revy
>>559815629>Theres 6472829483920 billion “sexy black ladies” characters, but none sticks cause they all GENERIC COOMER SLOP.Lol what. Where? No, tanned anime girls aren't black, you are a braindead retardera faggot who thinks race is actually just skin color. I can count sexy black lady characters on one finger and it's Sheva from RE5.
Which hero gives the best handjobs?
vindicta is so fucking bad
>>559816039The contrarians are right, but for the wrong reasons. I don’t give a single fuck about “muh black people representation n shieeet”, i care for unique, original designs, which the video game industry is seriously lacking, and Deadlock is finally showing them how it’s done. I hope they remodel her to be even blacker so all you clueless zero artistic drive retards get even angrier.
Which hero should I main if I'm a zoophile?
I have a confession. I literally thought Haze and Calico were the same character for awhile.
>>559816429victor
>>559816480The animal characters, duh.
>>559816152That works too.
>>559816429Silver using her werewolf paw hand
>>559816429Venator
>>559816413>revythat's my waifu
>>559816429Graves using her fucked up hand
>>559816429Graves (with the Necromancer hand while she looks at your dick with disgust)
>>559816139I'm ALWAYS saying this.
>>559816503Are you the valve black woman of unoriginality poster? Haze isn't even black, she is made of smoke.
>>559816534Youre kinda based
The only change Calico's design needs is to remove the pieces of her glasses that make her look like she is >:(
>rem and ivy pause the game for like 2 minutes at the start trying to swap to play together>end up swapping to worse lane with a worse lane partner because of it>press tab at 9 minutes>1 death on ivy, both of them have trophy collector with 0 stacks and a 800 itemwhat's the plan in this situation
>>559816524Paige...
>>559816429Drifter, years of experience.
>>559804460i love this mod. the artstyle and simple dramatic colors are pure kinography.
>>559816650Kek I miss this schizo
It's not easy being green.
I want resetera and bluesky faggots to leave.
>>559816457She looks like every other "proper" black female with glasses. She basically looks like a rip off from that game that failed, >>559815715. That other anon is right, if ANYONE liked her, she'd have fanart. Instead, there is already a skin that makes her just white and it looks better. So that's NEGATIVE ONE fanart if anything.
>>559816673Yiff in hell nigger
>>559816532I put them all in my roster except no&skill, thanks!
>>559816909>have sex in an imaginary placeEven back in 2008 this insult felt really weak.
>>559816685She's a bitchy black woman, they all have that face naturally.
>>559816864Do we have any thread schizos?
>>559816962>I put them all in except the best one
>>559816429>casual disinterested handjob from McGinnis while she focuses on working
Don't forget to say thank you to Mina Ha for unironically saving deadlock.
>>559807994Mina, Lash and Celeste also have all three.
I can't decide which character I want as my one ban more, Wraith or Calico. Another anti-victory for bluesky faggots.
is haze black?
>>559816429Roadhog.
>deadlock has nearly double the players as marathon lol, how did we win
>>559817078>>559816864You know who I really miss?The loathsome hag hater
>>559817202She is a glowie in the 1950's, what do you think?
>>559817078valve black women of unoriginality who is more of a ritualposter and the marvel rivals shitter who got banned for doxxing a random team mate lol
>>559817256i did nothing
>>559817256good looking characters
>>559816897“Fan artist” are just delusional failed artists that chooses the most generic and “appealing” (god I hate this word) characters to draw cause the only thing they clinge is for other midwit low-skilled retards praising their generic shit. If your gauge for “good design” is “number of fan arts made of said character”, you’re literally bottom of the barrel cattle.
>>559817102Yeah right, she'd invent a machine to do it for her
>log into the game>"how fun is it to play against doorman?"what do you think my fucking answer is going to be? the hero is literally designed to nuke the fun of enemy heroes kek
>>559817256People really hate the artstyle of Marathon. Kind of funny since I think it's quite good and unique. They went full Graphic Realism and didn't beat around the bush trying to make it cyberpunk-y.
>>559817256Launching with only 3 maps that basically all look the same isn't helping with player retention that's for sure
>>559817217But my hoggy husband isn't in this game. Incredible taste though.
>>559817256>My friend hasn't stopped playing Marathon since it came outWhat should I do bros?
>>559817256moba players are severely autistic and refuse to play anything else
>No, you see, Calico's design is good BECAUSE it's ugly and only 0.1% of the playerbase like it. Stop calling me a contrarian, it's the truth!What flavor of mental illness is this?
>>559817503Funny, considering Marathon stole its art. Couldn't even find good art to steal.
Eternus players only know how to farm and not brawl (sometimes), and que 1 million games. They aren't (all) actually good at general gameplay and DEFINITELY arent good at making new builds/actually understanding hero kits lmao
>>559816429oathkeeper and the lich handzuri
>calico on team = winnice game deadtards
>>559817805Sex with Silver
>play viscous>lane is fun>after that, every punch I cast seems to hinder my team rather than the enemy>only use the ability if I'm alone or at max range to poke them down before teamfights
>>559817698Contrarianism
>>559817879it must be 100% wr then right
I think killing Russian women is justified
>>559808887movement bug abusers can't double mega jewnigger tripledashjump out of a GET EM' MO so they'll forever seethe like an Invoker player who gets blinked on and permastunned by a Slardar
>>559817883mina…
>shiv on team = loss
Celeste on Silver horse**** rape after the nerfs
>>559818065BLEED
>>559808887>magic carpets to combo your vindicta in flight
>>559818137wtf is this real???
>>559808887braindead retard character that makes it so you can't play the game if they get close enough to you, which is extremely easy to do even if you are a movement gawd
>>559814487Because he's braindead OP now, you don't even need to use his doors. Leveling his doors is a waste since you get nothing out of it besides a shitty barrier. Meanwhile, his bells are the hardest hitting spammable gigantic AOE ability in the game and his ult is broken beyond belief.
>>559818194is real
>>559816685ngl i kinda really love the angry glasses, its her hair that bothers me, unironically i'd make her fully bald like her bald cat
>>559817412Black female with glasses (or eye feature) is SO unique, Valve really hitting it out of the park! Don't make them attractive whatever you do!
>>559817616I doubt Deadlock will ever have a hero as good
>>559818198>braindead retard character that makes it so you can't play the gameBut enough about bebop
Will online games ever stop forcing 50% win rates? This shit is so fucking annoying
>>559818357forced 50% is the only way a moba can work
>>559818137Mirage what're you doing!?! You'll never get Wyoming now!
>>559818324I usually play hook characters and just couldn't get into Bebop. I swear I have to turn off the voices of some of these fucks.
>>559818198Mo and Krill (And to an extent Wraith, cards aside) need to exist because otherwise we get a Genji situation where some hypermobile nigger runs away with the game. The existence of a point+click go fuck yourself means you can't just be out of position and rely on mobility to save you.
>>559816442She is? I've been having some good games on her.
>>559818353>>559818198the cycle of violence continues
Apollo seems retarded and unfun to play against
>>559818353>>559818508>>559818634i admit it is important to have these characters, but it does not reduce the inevitable frustration
>>559814064fuck you I'm not a tranny
>>559818395How is that fun though?>have 51% win rate>DING DONG DING DONG RED ALERT MISTER GABEN THIS PLAYER IS OVER 50%>hmmm time to give that player 5 braindead retards as his teammates>have 49% win rate>DING DONG DING DONG RED ALERT THIS USER IS BELOW 50%>hmm there you go 5 competent teammates Online games fucking suck ass
>>559818508But that's the point of those heroes, to be oop and harass. If they're forced into playing normally they can't do jack shit
>>559817503I actually quite like the style it went for but>It's not Marathon>I hate that kind of game
WE HAVE YOU NOW!
>>559818357once you get good yes
>>559818696every1 will quit if every game is coinflip on stomp or get stomped
Has anyone at Valve ever said what the logic behind lane duo choice is? MMR? Hero comp?I've noticed every fucking time I play Paradox I will start laned with Rem if he's on my team, which is pretty shit and gay to be honest. I wonder if it's built-in bias or just a coincidence.
>>559818697Being hypermobile means you never have to play normally because you engage on YOUR terms. Look at Celeste. She doesn't even have to fight you unless she wants to because she can just float the fuck away. It takes 6400 souls in items to stop that and even then you still need the oomph to kill her through a cancerous shield.
>>559818828>Being hypermobile means you never have to play normally because you engage on YOUR terms.Correct, and it's also built in the kits because if they play "normally" the kits are fundamentally useless
>>559818316Bottom left looks kinda good.
>>559818790t. muhammad and epstein main
>>559818890If a kit is useless when you get caught out, but by design you're almost never caught out because you are hypermobile, congrats, you've now got a problem character on your hands. Like Genji.
Laning with a rando who understands teamwork provides unfathomable pleasure.>You don't have to wonder what they're doing>You don't have to sit and wait for them to hit boxes mid-wave>They get involved when the opponents try to 2v1 you>They tell you when they're shopping so you aren't left pushing alone>They actually shoot the guardian when you get a wave forward>They watch your back>They push when you push>They retreat when you retreat>They laugh it off when you make a mistake>They compliment you when you pop offIf every match were as good as the feeling of laning with a competent teammate, this would be the greatest video game of all time. Sadly, this experience only occurs once every dozen matches.
>win match>this is the best game ever im having so much fun>lose match>this game is the worst game ever i need to uninstall this game really makes you FEEL like you have bpd
>>559818696this is why the open server lobbies were the superior system, you could just leave and people could shuffle in and out
>>559818732I didn't even know about the previous Marathon stuff before this recent one was announced. I like extraction shooters and all, but I'm slightly burnt out after Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, Cycle: Frontier, and Arc Raiders. Been like 5 years or so of playing them. I'll probably try it at some point.
>>559818696It's true. About 10% of all games I play I feel evenly matched where my team is good and their team is good, which often lead to the most intense and enjoyable matches.The rest of the time I'm either clowning on enemies or they're clowning on me, assuming my team exists because often times they're dead weight.
>>5598189590 games on mokrill btw
>>559813157I do this, but only for fellow gay chuds.
>>559817616Can't beat his mighty hands.
>>559815997You're supposed to CS the stun or else naturally you sit and get rooted.
>>559818939Yeah and that's fair because she's a sexy smokeshow. Basically what I'm getting at.
>>559819126do blizzfags really?
>>559818316God damn, who's that beauty on top left?
>>559812229Calico is the only hero that deserves to be in that tier atm. The fact that she gets a slap on the wrist from Slowing Hex but Apollo gets his crust busted by it is criminal.
>play pocket>by the time I max ult Victor is already a raid boss
>>559818828>It takes 6400 souls in items to stop that>slowing hex>1600 quid>knockdown>3200 quid
>friend gets into deadlock>he's not just shitty at the game, but also completely defensive about being shitty and incapable of adjusting after his bad habits are called outIt's cool, Noah, I definitely don't want to blow my brains out watching you farm jungle as kelvin for the ninth game in a row while the walker 300 feet from you gets shredded by troopers
>>559819025modern multiplayer games dont want you to actually have fun though, they want to lock you into a single carefully curated competitive gamemode that makes you more likely to get addicted and spend a bazillion dollers on the in game store
>>559819253It's Calico with poofy hair, red coat, and hooker purple lipstick. Seriously can't believe black people aren't offended by these designs.
>>559819335>Debuff remover and now you get assraped by KEEP YAH EYE ON DA BAWL BOYS AND GIWRLS because you collapsed on herIM NOT DIVOINE BUT I AYMM POWAHFUL ;)))))
DEATH IS CUMMING
>paige stun>wraith ult>anvil stun>paige ult>dynamo ultthis game has TOO MANY FUCKING CC's
>>559818316All of those designs are literally “how white liberals want to portray black woman on videogames”, and all of them are bad. Calico is none of the above. She’s cool and unique. If you disagree you are simply wrong and lack the artistic vision.
>>559818324He's so cute bros.>>559819126A shame Overwatch fucking sucks man.
does ANYONE likes playing agaisnt mo&krill
>>559819356>new patch comes out>bunch of newfags get into the game>people on my friends list start asking if I'll play with them>try to entertain them and teach them>just completely ignore everything I say>set game private and refuse any invites going forwardit's better this way.
>>559819481sis, your unstoppable?
>>559819515He's one of the most fair heroes in the game
does someone have a decent ivy guide? I suck at her and can't win but I can't tell if it's just cause my team sucksI feel like anytime I have a decent M1 presser on my team and I just tether to them it's an easy win, and even doing the web combo is just not enough damage to nuke peopleagain probably cause I suck at her
>>559819425>But black pipo doesn't look like dat!
>>559819481the game has debuff resistance, cc immunity AND diminishing returns. usually a game has ONE of those. you have no place bitching.
>>559817657so there are only like 40k people who dont play mobas?
>>559819284Nah, Doorman, Calico AND pocket are in a leauge of their own right now. MAYBE Wraith too?
>>559813212She looks like she smells unpleasant
>>559819515Laning against him is fine for the most part.
>>559817698The character being ugly vs the design being ugly are two completely different things. I find Shiv ugly as sin, but I still think he got a cool design. But that’s a concept too hard for you brainlets to understand.
>play silver>a character that is basically best used to just endlessly brool and/or fucking murder people who are alone >every game my teammates are retards that leave lanes unattended >forced to lane janny because teammates have no idea what macro isI am honestly just going to take the brool pill at this point and say fuck it when I play her nowif walkers die I just blame the heroes with better waveclear who weren't there I guess
>>559811554>>>559811639 >>559811712 >>559811756 >>559811784 >>559811914 >>559812005seethe
>>559817698You have to be on 50 levels of contrarianism to end up having the same level of beliefs as a SBI consultant with a degree in gender studies
>>559819515I play Kelvin so whenever he ults I pull the enemy Mo into my team, it's fun.
>>559817078If you post a touhou image someone will spam men in dressesDoes that count?
>>559819771Shiv's design needs urgent work much like his kit.
>>559819503>>559819771Here I made it more obvious for you.
>>559817256>marathonwhat
Is it true Silver has a voiceline where she lusts after Mina Ha?
YOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>559819515i hate that motherfucker like you wouldn’t believehe’s such a cuck character, he literally holds the target down while someone else kills themof course i love having one on my team but most of the time he’s on the enemy team and most of the time he’s focusing the fuck out of me like it’s his life’s one true calling
>shiv's alter ego is the troubadour>wraith is a federal informant>kelvin is The Thing>Calico isnt the fairfax hitman
>>559820097what's wrong with thatyou're paying 800 for 2 vase buffs
>>559815643maj leap is garbage just get warpstone
what if victor ult could be silenced?
>>559820035why do you ask an ambiguous time wasting question instead of just looking it up?
>>559820097>yoshi is playing the game and enjoys getting jungle buffs>decides to add a item that lets him just convert his souls into jungle buffsI don't blame him
>>559819909Here's Mina cosplaying Remilia from Touhou then
>>559817256Yoshi killed it by dropping the balance patch on the same day.
this patch is giving 'Biggest Doorman fan excited to play him for the first time' energy, these people do nothing but spam bells and ult, and they're being rewarded instead of punished for ignoring half the character
>>559819562>teaching overwatch friend deadlock>ask her to heal me with her rem 3>I havent seen her use 3 in over a minute>she insists she doesnt have 3>says i'm micromanaging her>I die>she had 3
#1 on gamebanana btw
>>559820148>what's wrong with thatYou can use all your late game souls to become unkillable and one-shot people.
>>559817256Why does Marathon look like an untextured alpha when compared to an actual early alpha?
Before the update I ran support Ivy focused on Watchers Covenant. Any good new builds to take advantage of the permanent activation of it?
>>559817256>>559820210>Deadlock kills Concord>Deadlock kills Highguard>Deadlock kills MarathonHow does Valve do it?
>>559820210>yoshi has killed concord, highguard and marathonwhat the FUCK did he mean by this
>>559820248I was spamming bells before the patch, it was his only real tool before
>>559820320
Doorman bells are way to strong too early. 400 damage burst sub 5 minutes is crazy
>>559820320i liked the other hair more
>>559820324so?yeah just have infinite souls and you'll be infinitely powerful
>>559820331Just build Healing Tempo and enjoy permanent turbo speed.
>>559820097>hit full build>get a fuckload of souls>spam eggs>win with infinite statsthis is too overpowered, it's going to rule the 60 minute game meta
>>559820497He said he would work on the hair and the hoop earrings. From what it seems like, he might be a new modder in general.
>>559819356>>559819562>>559820269I had to set my steam to offline and private because otherwise I can't handle being a teacher for people who don't want to learn, I even got called a backseater a few times for giving advice>STOP BACKSEATING ME, IF I WANTED ADVICE I WOULD ASK FOR IT (this is after my friend who only plays Mina complained about dying over and over)
>>559820320>Gamebana It's not as trannified as nexus, but I'm sure it will be taken down shortly by some butt mad admin because "muh racist white washing"
>>559820248>if you don’t do a 3-man cart door push into the base you’re not playing doorman right!!That’s exactly what a retard who never played Doorman would say.
>>559820556>it's going to rule the 60 minute game metaSeekergods...
>>559820556>no slots to buy them
>>559820637An admin replied on the initial request that he's letting it stay because there is a black version of paige, celeste, graves, and other character already on the site.
>>559820556wait until this guy hears about the sun exploding...
>>559820324>You can use all your late game souls to become unkillable and one-shot people.Yeah nobody is doing that. They just buy egg and farm forever, leaving their team 5v6 for an entire match before it cascades into defeat.Eggnoggers deserve instant reports.
>>559820723just sell a 1600 item for a slot and then buy it again once you're done with your feast
>>559820838buy the fucking egg.
>>559820859yes so all your buffs now cost 800 souls extra total
Why are people mad about eggs all of a sudden what did I miss
>>559820838Well you see its actually good in the hypothetical situation where I have so much money I dont know what to spend it on. A match I should have won already
>>559820971retard
>>559820097I tried this and it didn't give me stats..
>>559820035yea she calls her stacy and hates how mina looks down on her because she’s jealous and wants to sniff her freshly shaved vampire muff
If I was a lesser man I’d be dead ...
>>559812248pocket is the cloak
>>559821039ignore the retardsretarded lol babies with no concept of how the frog worksanything unique or interesting scares themall hail the egg
if i counterspell celeste's chain frost when it comes towards be after it bounced on someone else first, will it make the orb disappear? please say yes
>>559821264no
>>559817448He's definitely a mistake of character design, there will never be a state he will be fun to play against in unless they remove his ult entirely and make him do things besides 'spam gigantic AoE nukes that do a third of your HP bar and then put you in the hotel/cart you away if you get anywhere near him'
>>559821264you don't get damaged but the orb bounces anyway
>>559819687Well yeah but they should be mad at these depictions.
>>559820971>current doorman>high skill ceiling
Why does the egg even give stats? the stats you gain are so small it makes no difference anyway, it should just give a little more bonus souls on assist or something so it can be a support sissy starting item.
>>559821220they should just put a skimask on pocket
>>559821326>>559821302alright so lategame orb with refresher/lightning scroll is just an ''i win'' button, got it
>>559821373maybe so it isnt literally totally useless?
now that I think about it, I've never seen a single Doorman use the cart to push their allies, a Dynamo delivery service could be a fun meme to do with some coordination
>>559821373>the stat gains are so small that it doesnt matter, so it should do even less
>>559817165I agree. All three need to be reworked.>>559818395>mobas can't be funYeah, I know. Thanks for confirming. >>559821264Haha, why would it do that? The tranny self-insert must be powerful. >>559821325The recent ult CD reset is the sort of thing one would only do if they hated deadlock players and wanted them to seethe uncontrollably.
>>559813212too similar to wraith
>>559813212Every character in games needs to be fuckable. She just looks old.
>>559820187I'm at work. Only have time to sneak short posts while nobody is looking.
Is Graves actually bottom tier now?
>>559820971rem is high skill apm autismbebop is easy but requires some aim (hook)
>never see paradox before the patch>she's in every game nowbut no, apparently she's le gutted
>>559821632Yeah she's been nerfed into Oblivion
>>559821756I haven't seen a single apollo post patch funny enough
>>559813212the hair is ugly, her shoes look bad, she runs like an old lady going on a jog and the weird line on her glasses make it look like she has a stupid angry face
>>559821441>gaining bonus souls on an assist is worse than +25hp +4% weapon power and .25 cdrok man
>>559814064Wife material. You blew it.
ngl the MVP system needs to be tweaked in favor of supports moregoing Paige and having like 40 assists because i just initiate every teamfight, save their asses with shields, heal them, knockdown all key enemies during ults etc. and basically turn around a losing game and MVP is gotten by Seven who just spans his ult
>>559821857I thought you were saying the egg is already bad??
>>559821756>people want to try a radically changed characterwoooooooooooooooooooooooowher pickrate isnt even high so youre just a schizo
>>559820971Only true high skill character in the game is Holliqueer
>>559821951It is, how is the passive soul gen + gaining some extra on kill/assist worse than a statue worth of stats though
WHO TF TOLD YOU TO PLAY GUN SEVEN YOU FUCKING USELESS FAGGOTS WITH NO DAMAGE WHY ARE THEY ALWAYS 100% SHURE THEIR GUN BUILD IS BETTER THAN ULTIMATE BUILD? HURD DUR WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BUILD ULT YES, YOU STUPID YOKEL
>>559821632>>559821782As a Graves main it just feels like she can't close games. She takes lanes like a beast, but once it's down to just shrines/patron turns out her zombies are laughably easy to deal with. Half the time you can just facetank them to be rid of them faster. At a certain soul level she simply falls off a cliff.
>>559821948PULLBACK
>>559820971>Apollo>Mirage>High skill ceilingBait post
>>559822008How should I know? You didn't even give any numbers.
>>559821756she got rebuffed retard
Bebop players when i Counterspell their double bomb and they die a milisecond later because they burned through all of their damage.
>>559821948Skill issue.
>>559821660>requires some aim (hook)lmao
>>559822268If you go damage sure. But if you are tank/initiator then it's impossible to get an MVP.I love rushing Knockdown asap tho. They literally NEVER expect it.
>>559822142Nigga do I need to go into extreme detail giving specific soul numbers as opposed to you just understanding the general idea?
>when you type “gg” at the end of a match now the character will actually say “good game”Don’t know if it’s SOVL or fourth wall breaking slop. I’m divided…
>>559821756playing Paradox before the patch was masochism reserved for real fans, you felt helpless after laning and having to invest t5 on walls for the silence meant your ult was crippled and your grenades did fucking nothing, so your midgame was horrendously dependent on your teammates because otherwise you had no damage outside of proccing Headhunter every 6 seconds or hoping the enemy would walk through your wall 20 times. Late game you were an ult bot that had to spend thousands of souls just to make grenades do something besides annoy the enemy
>>559822410Ya
>>559822364well yeah if you're missing most of your hooks you are essentially worthless
>>559820556
>>559822568kek
>>559804460So what's the verdict on new patch spirit Abrams? Is it viable? Greater exp. Plus ballistic ench. Make a big enough life succ? Or is it still just echo shard charge?
>>559821819I see him alot but now he flip flops between going 10/5 and 5/10 whereas before he'd go 20/1 in most games
>>559822404>If you go damage
Why is everyone afraid to acknowledge how OP Calico is?
I have never seen Billy do really anything in a game, except maybe dying. Feels like a filler character.
Weighted shots seems giga busted now, siphon bullets too
sinclair is the master of bullshit calico is the master of fuck off>t. pisslow
all the characters should have their own theme when you are inn the "joining the match as..." screenwhy? because i want valve to waste time
>>559822826He can be good but if you don't have a team you're utterly useless. He's not a carry hero.
>doorman went from being one of the worst characters, to one of the strongest in just a couple daysI really hope they nerf him soon before he permanently has the stigma of being insufferable to play against
>>559822801I usually skip the faster bullets item. Is it really that good?
>>559822826His nerfs on the patch were the most out of place of them all. He was never overpowered in any form. Justice for the Goatman
>>559822435you can do it at anytime, and how is it even 4th wall breaking? you could always say it with the voice wheel
>>559822801mvp and key player both go to the player with overall contributions, so best kda and highest stats relatively
>>559812297Do not max bell or ult second, that's fucking retarded. Put three points in bell then max door or cart.
>>559822984>He was never overpowered in any formhe's been top tier forever
>>559822926>>559822984Sorry, I nerfed him for laying his hands on my snake wife. He can have his power back when he learns some FUCKING respect
>>559822826You have to have a high IQ to pop off as Billy, most Billies just turn their brain off and feed their asses off
>>559822960Idk, it's in the build I downloaded though. I figure most of them know better than I do.
>>559822928Even with how bad his bells are in lane, still not as bad as Wraith or Calico
>>559820971>Celeste>Doorman>Mirage>Apollo>High skillHow?
>>559822806Idk but it needs to stop. She's just as bad as she was when we was first released. They have learned nothing.
>>559822826The melee system is a bit fucked in that if you get parried once it's fucking over for you, characters like abrams and billy need to melee to get their game plan going so they're fucked
>>559822960Since its % based its actually worse on her then most heros because the base value is so low
>>559822907Sinclair is the most balanced character ever and he scales with bulshit new characters and their OP ultimates. High skill ceiling and skill expression.
>>559821264Unlike every single other ult in the game, no. If you counterspell it it just bounces to another teammate (and then back to you probably)Absolutely disgusting OP character for people who want the game to play itself. Much like Graves, and Apollo.>>559821472Yeah making the ult reset itself if you fail to leave the hotel (after Doorman slowing hexes you, cold fronts you, and knockdowns you) is retarded, on top of it giving him unstoppable. You aren't going to kill him while your team has to play 5v6 (or more likely 4v6 since they will have wraith/mo/calico to instantly delete someone else on your team)
>>559822990Uh, didn’t knew about the voice well option. Its fourth wall breaking cause the whole point of a match is “we trying to perform this obscure ritual no matter the cost”, it’s not a fucking “game” for the characters involved.Yeah that’s a next level autism, but it still valid since Deadlock feels like one of the only MOBAS that you are trying to destroy the enemy base for a purpose and not just for the sake of it.
>>559823169Parrying should be removed from the game. Go play Dark Souls PVP if you want to parry people.
>>559822928All the epic tricksters who played him were shitters who couldn't land a single combo so Valve made his cart magnetic and turned his bells into machine gun nukes for good measure.
>>559823169>>559823339parrying is unironically the most fun system in the game, billy and abrams are both S tier so clearly u can play around it if ur not bad
how is curse a viable victor counter when you have to kill this healtank faggot twice?
So let me get this straight, they buffed Paradox but removed the silence on her wall as a compensation and now they left all her buffs AND added the silence back.FUCK THIS STUPID DEV TEAM WHAT ARE THESE HORRIBLE CHANGES
>>559823013Maxing the door is worthless when you can simply max your ult and become unkillable in every fight for the rest of the game. Maxing the cart is fine since it's super easy to land now.
>>559823397>bell>machine gun nukeLay down the crack pipe, anon. This sentence makes zero sense.
>>559822806A black woman is stomping. Deflect and ignore
>>559823448it interrupts his 3 channel so it doesn't do any dmg
>>559821339>>559821660>>559821987>>559822134>>559823149here's the revised version
>>559823339Prepare to die.
>>559823418This. Baiting out parries then RAPING them with your fists feels so good
>>559822928>Play Doorman almos exclusively even when he's shit>Now have to compete every game to pick him even on max priority because everyone wants to just spam the OP nuke bellsI really hate how people only play characters that are currently OP rather than the chracters they like
>>559823448you have two people buy it, simple
>>559823471literally every change except the aoe swap was a nerf shes at least playable now
So for someone who doesn't play or see Mirage ever why was this patch a nerf? Isn't his spirit gun debuff his damage?
>>559823535I think Celeste is a faggot hero, but they didn't need to make Mo and Krill this strong too, since he just rapes everyone else besides Celeste even harder since they have way less mobility.This is easily the worst state the game has ever been in at this point. You lose the moment the game starts if the enemy team has at least 3 of:VictorCalicoDoormanMohammaed and KareemCelesteWraith
>>559823578i know that feelmy mains are ivy and doorman and with the changes i've been getting my lowest prio picks way too often
i stop playing deadlock because every meta is just about to nuke peoples, thats not fun and fair or skilled, pressing one key one shot someone is not a good gameplay, matchmaking is just horrible europe server are cancer af with a lot of cheater. sad deadlock was a really good game but balance and mm make me quit after 2000 hours. every patch are for spirit nuker and play around the best one thats all ..
>>559823418Yeah but that anon is saying billy always dies in his game the explanation for that is he got parried and died, it's like a 3 second stun if you get parried which is a death sentence in lane
>>559823578I'm in the same boat but with Viscous, suddenly I'm the asshole for doing punch build when that's what I've been doing on him for a year now, even during the gun Viscous meta
>>559822960its purpose is to help you secure souls in lane, personally I tried it in the hideout and it improved my secure time on Celeste and Doorman so I buy it on them
I don't get what people are smoking with Doorman buffs, do you unironically max out your doors before cart/ult/bell? this is probably the most level starved character right now.
bros they completely broke shiv's legshe is unplayable now
>>559823476Max door is infinitely better in the early-mid game than max ult. Max doors give you 200-meter range doors, meaning you can pretty much always have a door back to your walker to send people trough and/or fall back, meaning you can constantly just roam the enemy jungle with no care in the world. You really don't need max ult until later when you're teamfighting a lot.
>>559823642>Mirage>nerfNo. He was strong back then, and it’s even stronger now. He nukes you across the map with 2k damage procs. It’s actually disgusting.
>>559823685wasn't the meta m1 right before the last batch of characters?
It's Monday Yoshi, where's the next patch?
>>559823685you can just go back to hacking in tarkov ivan
>>559823716Main Mirage and Shiv so you never have this problem (intentionally, they sometimes accidentally buff them) and also you will never have fun again
>>559823685Wait for release. Things surely will be better.
>>559823578That's the problem, anon. You can't play the characters you like anymore since they keep buffing everyone way too much and making them all so overpowered that you are throwing if you don't pick them now. The last set of 6 heroes kind of showed that the powercreep in the game is way out of hand now with how broken Celeste, Graves, Silver, and Apollo all are.>>559823757No, you put 2 points into bell to make it do 400 damage 5 minutes into the game, win your lane since it hits around cover and is unavoidable unless you instantly dodge the millisecond you see it flying at you, then you can either max out the ult or the cart, the doors are not worth putting points into when you can just 100 to 0 combo people with the bell/cart/ult.
>>559823757A lot of fotm tourists are playing him now, so you're going to see a lot of really retarded advice. You still always max cart first for the stun.t. doorfag
How do you even play Mo and Krill? Does all of his damage come from Scorn and his ult?
Yeah I'm dropping this game until they buff Holliday, what a dogshit patch. It's soooooooooooooooooo bad why are there so many SSSSSSS++++ tier chars ???????????????????
>>559823339Just cut the stun time in half. Being parried is too punishing rn imo. I do like the melee gameplay, they are fun mechanics in theory. They just need tweaking.Instead of doing that they punish Abrams players for innovation (echo shard use) that lets you land two punches instead of one every 34 seconds.As a reminder Silver's ult CD is 35 seconds. Abrams charge (base) CD is 34. Explain that.
Apollo is so busted its insaneWHY THE FUCK DOES HE SILENCE AS AN ABILITY??!?! FUCK OFF LMAO
>>559823719>>559823764>max door >max ultAll wrong. You should max cart first, shit is huge now, easiest stun ever.
>>559823706as it should be? its high risk high reward, melee lane phase brools is the most fun you can have in deadlock, everyone knows the risk n reward its always a peak dynamicotherwise lane phase is genuinely miserable with npcs just shooting creeps from behind cover and occaisionally peppering you then retreating and repeatfunny, I'm archon, in archon matches people play so fucking pussy, but then in oracle its a melee fiesta in lane whenever i play w a phantom friend, but anything bellow archon is also a fiesta in lane, so archon is pretty much the worst elo where all retards do in lane is farm like bots wo engaging on each other melee
what did yoshi mean by this
>>559823583i don't think needing to dump 2 curses into 1 guy is healthy for the game
>>559823851Why did they nerf Geist's bombs because they were too strong in lane, only to make Doorman's bells this fucking ridiculous?
>>559823874Scorn and burrow do insane damage now, the ult does too. You can just rape people by following them around with torment pulse and then ulting them>>559823448There are currently no viable counters to Victor besides maybe Pocket, but anyone who isn't retarded will just have their support get Divine Barrier so Pocket can't turn off Victor's broken as fuck sustain.
>>559823914I'm currently experimenting wiht both maxing cart and door, both are really good in different ways. I just think maxing ult first is trolling
>>559823940>knock upUsing this on Silver
>>559823874>disarm for safety >heal for safety >combo for safety >go underground for safety literally what part of his kit do you find complicated?
>>559823923vid rel was in an oracle lobby w that friend LMAO
>>559823835Shiv isn't that bad now, his knives do a shitton of damage
>qol lock>erm... we are hacking the database... loading... loading...... PRoject Complete... 100% QOL Enabledthis is so gay kyselves
>>559824025I thought torment pulse was nerfed pretty badly.
>>559824160No, it is still one of the best items in the entire game since it is free DPS without even needing to aim it or use it. They barely touched it.
>>559824048Me? I'm using it on warden.
>>559824039Maxing door is retarded. Optimal doorman gameplay is not about “le epic across the map doors”. Doors are mainly a “get the fuck out of a bad position” tool. You don’t need it to be at 6 gorillion range for it to work. Door is the LAST thing you max.
I just had a game where M&K were just tower diving us from minute one, i was infernus and my lane partner was grey talon and we literally just couldn't outdamage him. He was just parrying the tower and raping us with no items, shit was absurd
>>559824136HUD mod > QOLlock
>>559824160.28 to .25 spirit scaling is not even remotely a nerf. It's them pretending they are nerfing the item.>>559824273Welcome to the new patch! We're moving to LoL-style balancing where a half-dozen characters are going to be disgustingly overpowered every single patch, and you just lose at hero select if you don't get at least half of them.
>>559824105I do want to learn this guy, but I cannot solo for DICK.
>>559824105not one fucking parry my god
>>559824241Forgot to add: level 1 door is already enough to fish for kills/harass at enemies shop while in laning phase. That’s it.
>>559824305they're both cheating and should result in a VAC ban
>>559824273>i was infernus and my lane partner was grey talon and we literally just couldn't outdamage him
so why is metro downplaying victor?
>>559824368warden was one of those people that melee way more than you're used to and instead of it being easy parries it always catches me off guard how he had the balls to heavy melee
>>559824432>Why is metro....because he's retarded
idk what they did since I stopped playing a month ago but if you don't take stamina items in brool you get FUCKEDlike it's mandatory lmaois that even good design?
>>559824361all you have to do to be useful as drifter even when behind is go in a tf and press 4, he's pretty strong and not that hard imo
>>559824432he's probably one of those people who likes to say contrarian shit so people think he's smart.
why did wraith get a better lasso?
>>559824432because he forces his shitty gun build lol
how would (you) nerf victor
>>559824105>LMAO I KILLED SOMEONE 2V1 WHILE I WAS 25% RICHERembarrassing
Anyone else dissapointed with graves?When i;ve seen that they are adding a summoner character, i got my hopes up, because i really liked Beastmaster and Lycan from dota, and expected something similar, where i dont need much farm besides a couple utility items (doms, blink, armlet) and can then go with my zoo into a teamfight and do shit.However my expirience with graves is mostly her being a very farm dependant gun carry, whos skull summons are only good for chasing, and ult for area denial, while being pretty useless otherwise.Is this a skill issue? I really hope they take another shot at a summoner archetype
>>559824581brool is literally the only place you can just go all in on damage and area of effect you nigger ape what are you on about
>>559824662it's about it being a funny fight not to flex, why do people itt always assume every webm is to flex ur epic gameplay?
>>559824774this has to be a jokeyou're that guy?
>>559824756you must be in absolute bottom elo lol yikes!
>>559824686I understand that she was heavily inpsired by Undying, but I wish her ulti was cooler with a giant single zombie,ghoul, or meat golem.
>>559824432Because some retards think they're good at the game and have decided that some heroes are bad and some are good and no amount of proof or statistics will convince them otherwise.
>>559808887they can't handle his hot body
>>559824606It's been hard to be there for teamfights lately when everything dies so fast and I'm busy regulated to wave cleanup since those fuckers hurt like hell now.God I wish I knew how to get out of this funk.
>>559824864>bottom elo>brool
>>559824741Hes literally me
Day 3 of not buying the egg.
>>559824686yeah same, they really should rework her. she literally does nothing but press 4 and hope her team utilizes the pushing power. it's like volvo doesn't understand that a splitpush character needs either a spell that lets them fuck off, or to be a 1v1 beast.
>>559824835yes lifestrike is my fav item in the game
>>559824881Outside of it being a tomb that spawns zombies, shes not like undying at all, Undying's tomb takes much more effor to break, and spawns tunnel damage zombies that slow.While the rest of his kit allows him to fight, survive and be useful with barely any gold, i find graves to be the exact opposite
>>559824907i play with a biological woman who actually, unironically finds mo's body type hotmy entire life has been a lie
I think paradox's ult should be re-adjusted to 15 meters range and a little longer cooldown. It's ridiculous as is, I have to spend 1 stamina to dash away and every minute or so and it's really ruining my lane. On top of that it's absurd that she can just nuke you across the entire lane for 90 damage every 20 seconds, and then there is her wall, unbelievable that she can just stand there behind it for 5 seconds and I can do nothing about it.
>>559824774DELETE THIS DON'T LET YOSHI SEE IT
>>559825115its more of a strong-fat body type though, not obese
Scratching silver like a pet.
>33min game>10k player dmgGuess hero
>Can't get a venator in a penitents skin because bigoted faggots will cry/KKK larp.Fuck this gay world.
>>559808887They counter the cancer. If a Wraith is on the enemy team, they shut her down entirely.
>>559825115sorry /fit/cel, the fa/tg/uy gets the girl
>>559825015I dont even think she is a splitpusher, its kind of a waste of ult, shes a fragile gun carry, with her abilities besides the ult being pretty much minor inconveniences, and as such she needs a ton of gold to utilise 100% chance to hit with on hit items, and as much vampirism as possible
>>559825185rem
>slowing hex someone in werewolf form>they just casually walk awayso this is the power of the most OP character in the game
>>559824020Doorman's bells are only a single meter shorter than Geist's and thats when she has t2 on them, they also outdamage Geist's, get better scaling and the charges allow him better uptime on them before she hits t5, all while not killing himself every time he throws one. it's hilarious
>>559824881giant minion is warlock's ult doe, not undying
>>559825015>it's like volvo doesn't understand that a splitpush character needs either a spell that lets them fuck off, or to be a 1v1 beastbro where is your MAGIC CARPET? people sleep on this
>>559825191pr*ts ruin everything with their hatred.
is anyone having fun with this dogshit patch
>>559808887Because he basically gets a free pick with ult past 20 mins and has somehow less risk ulting someone in a teamfight because of how much healing he gets from it + scorn.
>>559825038Whilst I agree she is not like Undying at all, I think the key words are "heavily inspired" by which like in the case of Slork means they just worked from an aspect of a hero in Dota then mangled it to "fit" into Deadlock. This in almost every case so far has made the copied ability basically unrecognizable, shit, or broken. They ought to only take token inspiration and look more at what works and doesn't currently for ideas rather than just at what Dota ideas they can scrounge up IMO
>>559825248your phantom strike?
>>559825161don't worryits pre nerf...
>>559825373but grave's tombstone obviously works otherwise nobody would be shitting themselves over it. same with celeste's lich ult. asking the dota guy and the dota team to not dip into dota concepts is stupid
the game is just this easy
>>559825364I got to play mirage last night and had funNo one realizes they're going to get obliterated by marks until it's too late
>my reaction when paradox swaps me now
>>559825364you have fun if you play doorman/calico/viscous(especially this green cancer)/wraith/shiv/hazeif you play lash and the new heroes like me its been really rough
>>559825115Women are liars, anon. She's lying to you.
You guys ever have a bad game and someone on your team comments on your profile mean words?
>>559825191He might get a capirote of some kind because Valve isn't that buck broken over woke, but a full white + capirote skin? Fuck no.
>>559825627They're most likely DBD refugees. And yes
>>559825627That has never happened to me in 1k hours
>>559825282Making graves more like warlock could be fun.Make her grasping hands an Aoe channel that slows and bans usage of stamina, make the skulls explode on attack, and with a high tier upgrade make the grasping hands spawn more skulls when something dies. You could keep the ult as is or do the big zombie thing, despite my preference for dota, i really like the way it works with Yorrick in Leage
I ship Billy and Paige.
>>559825680DBD has 0 overlap with this game..
>>559825701>yorrick in leagenever heard of it
>>559825326issue with magic carpet is that you have to buy it early, but if you buy it early you do no damage so you gotta buy other shit first, but then by the time you got that other shit it's troll to be splitpushing a walker solo so you may as well buy something else.
Is Mina any better in the late game now?
>>559825229Venator
>>559825627>not having a private profile
mo isn't fat dumbasses he's strong-fatthere's a huge differencewomen love the left one cause a big burly guy makes em feel protected
>>559825559>my honest reaction when kidnapped
>>559824774man i miss pre-nerf Silverone of the most fun designed characters in game and how she should feelthe moment you turn into a werewolf you should be an unstoppable beast
>>559825764He spawns a big ranged creep, that you can switch between following you or pushing the lane, and while its nearby all the creeps that die around get turned into ghouls which is Yoriks normal summons
I like how to urn grows legs and starts walking his way back to his spot.
>>559825115She thought Moe is a monkey
>>559825680That makes sense this person that did plays DBD. Are they all mentally unwell over there?>>559825696Person was telling me to kms I found it funny. I told him Donald Trump is going to rape him and he went berserk spamming my profile.
>>559825531dumbest shit ive read throughout my years moba'ingthis already exists, no need to reinvent a bicycle.
>>559825943 Nigger you deserved a worse nerf. Be grateful you got a light slap on the wrist.
https://files.catbox.moe/j1smxj.mp4
>>559823876>Pick Holliday>Nobody flames you or complains about your performance since they didn't expect you to do anything from the start>People congratulate you and say thanks after you use your temu brand version of Maim & Kill ult because they are surprised you aren't feeding>Free to onetrick her because Waifufags, Meta Slaves, Movelets and Aimlets want nothing to do with herI hope they never buff Holliday, it's so comfy
>>559825914autist
>>559825778Carpet would actually be a good item if schmoovement abuse wasn't a thing. It would be a choice with a cost to have huge mobility like mleap instead of just autistically learning how to molest the wall in a way that it slaps your ass into motion
>>559825531Not sure what this chart is trying to achive?
>>559825914I have it public but keep everything private.
>>559825943yeah, imo they should have given her a week or two before nerfing, immediate balance changes should only be the case for truly BROKEN shit, like calico right now, silver was 51% wr or something
This whas the first Deadlock related meme I ever saw
>calico>celeste>doorman>viscous>wraithThis patch proves these retards have never balanced a game before in their life
Why are Calico players such fucking faggots?
>>559826131Calico, Victor, Doorman, and Wraith all need immediate nerfs.
>>559825914I want people to see I've been a part of /baneposting/ for twelve something plus years now though.
>>559826193bane?
>>559826068>>559826071>1 second apart.
>>559826182But anon, literally every comp player and streamers says Victor is "A tier at best."
>>559826071Yeah it was comfy last patch not this one, every char just one shots you while you need to buy green res items disarm silence knockdown transc cooldown slowing hex and deal 0 damage
>>559826182calico is the worstbitch is a terror from lvl 1 to lvl 35? or whatever the max lvl is now cancer
>>559826180the ugliest character in the game and that's counting all the neon prime leftover designs
>viscous players
>>559826193That is pretty based and impressive
>>559820971>Geist>needing any form of skill besides "run towards enemy when low HP with ult"ok
>>559825559you do know wall silence is back
>>559825115>>559825168i knew a 10/10 bombshell once who exclusively fucked strong fat guys. another girl i know stopped dating tall chads and now is with some completely unattractive fat guy.grifters claiming that you need to be a marble greek god are genuine subhumans with less than 40 iq. you can be a 130 kilo fatass as long as you have enough musculature to make your sides not spill out like a blob out of your torsogod i wish there was more porn of mo with this bodytype, he's so cute and hot and chad and
>>559826290you need 2-3 greens at most, usually spirit res and then whatever
>>559825992>>559826090can bebop hook interrupt abrams/billy charge?
>>559826375woman (natty) post
>>559826071>Free to onetrick her because Waifufags want nothing to do with herIncorrect. She's going to be my new number three now that I learned to abuse movement.>>559826148>aiI'm.... sorry...
>>559826193How can they gauge that?
best hero to climb solo queuing while premuting your entire team?
>>559826313least demonic gooboy enjoyer
>victor releases, completely broken instawin character>gets "nerfed" to just being top tier OP>farming changes, heavy spirit resist + high hp and damage, most meaningful nerf to victor to date>metaslaves move on to the next fotm op hero>revert farming changes>victor strong again>>>buff him to instawin status again next updateare the devs retarded or do they just not pay attention to their own game? rhetorical question, its both.
How does Wraith's card targetting work?Like if my cursor is on an enemy will it always try to fly to that enemy, even if it overshot to begin with, will it loop back?
>>559826375they got older so they settled
>>559826540Wraith or Calico.
>>559826313when even a haze player thinks you're a poor sportsman
>ivy spends the entire game flying with her ult and spamming her 1>it works both for teamfights and for split pushingI've never played against something so annoying. I bought knockdown, but she's so fast while flying around that she could just walk away after getting stunned
>>559826567They only pay attention to trannies and "pros" crying about Silver.
>>559820971How the fuck does Mirage have a high skill ceiling? What am I missing? The macro knowledge? He's argueably easier than a lot of the average dif characters. Also Haze is not harder than Ven unless you're in a bracket where people can't aim. Ven's hitbox is massive and you just get shot to shit compared to haze who is tiny.
>listen to Bebop's ultI swear I heard a bit of Giant Steps in there
top 5 female heroes played by waifufags?
>>559826313>that bullet sizegod man i cant believe these retards same with doorman players were saying how they're piloting such hard chars
constant updates to ranks have put me well beyond my skill and now every game they call me shithow do I cope?
>>559826491yes, of course it fucking can
>>559825624One of my childhood friends openly admits she had a crush on Shrek so I don't think either that anon or the girl he knows is lying. I also know a fujoshit (4/10 on a good day). You know that fuck ugly goblin generic Ugly Bastard guy people pretty much use as a meme at this point? Him. She finds him hot. Women are every bit as deranged as men.
>>559824686She's fine, just wish she'd get slight buffed, at the very very least change her tier 3 on her arm passive because there's no I'm gonna be able to suck to enemies at once if it requires them to be glued together, make that shit wider
>>559813212Ugly hairstyle, almost baldArm thing is too futuristic
>>559826836the blackpill is that they'll still eye fuck chad even when they're with shrek
>>559826897Would you not eye-fuck a Lady Geist/Mina if they walked past you? Being committed to someone doesn't mean you stop finding everyone else hot.
>>559826962Incels are retarded hypocrites xd
>>559826827wrong LMAO retard asking what the chart is for found out KEK
>>559826679>macroGOD>area denial champ>lower gravity>4 stamina>hyper mobile drone strike ult on low cooldownonly downside is you basically only build her mystic now
>>559826962Mina is the wrong kind of Asian to be considered hot.
>>559826962the ultimate male fantasy is that women are pure hearted lovers, but the truth is they are more prone to polygamy than males
>>559826962>Lady Geist/MinaUh, no, sorry, i'd need a Graves to walk past me :)
>>559827038youll get more attention on reddit
>>559826836>>559826962Women are also expected to have very low or no standards at all so they don't offend men. A woman wanting a hot man is far more taboo than a man wanting a hot woman or a hot man. The system is quite literally rigged in favor of men in that regard.
Why isn't Mina sucking me
Where does /dlg/ get their pro-opinions from? I just want to know where to go for my expectations of who gets nerfed or buffed. Is it basically just the in-house or tournament night shift they have?
>>559827148your tears are even easier
>>559827220>Women are also expected to have very low or no standards at all so they don't offend menwhat are you smokin
>>559827220hello lolcow browser
>>559826748s*lver
>>559826071>Nobody flames you or complains about your performance since they didn't expect you to do anything from the startFalse>>559826071>>Free to onetrick her because Waifufags, Meta Slaves, Movelets and Aimlets want nothing to do with herCorrect, even when i have 3 heros woth the same priority i still get her, clearly no one picks mah yeehaw cowgirl, but god is the skill floor raping me, every skill sje has needs insane aim
>>559826523newfag....
>>559820971>Celeste>Highest skill ceiling???????????Her movement is better than any other character but that doesn't make her hard.
Isn't Shiv literally Jesus? He died for the sins of the compfaggotry scene, he hasn't done jack shit in pub since his 97th nerf early 2025.
>>559827220lol lmao
>>559812229swap billy and talon with abrams and paige
>>559826836Women are like Orks. Da only ting dat matters iz being da biggest, greenest and fightyist git 'roundLooksmaxxing is not a real thing.
>>559826290I play for damage and turning the tide of close fights early and then just play more objective focused after midgame since bouncepads make running urn, lane/walker pushing safer and faster. I give up hope of being a hard hitter late game and just try not to miss the lasso while following a teammate who actually does damage.>>559826523I know Holliday is going to have her day in the sun after a visual rework or buff and I'm going to miss getting the guaranteed character pick. It seems like everyone is so close to liking her but they have one dealbreaker or another that keeps them away.
>>559827296Men by default know that everything in the world is made for them
mo and krill is part of the psyop on women to get them to lower their standards
>>559827418Shiv is secretly OP right now you just have to not be an aimlet, the secret Chinese build on him right now is 1k damage knives by minute 20
>>559826267Because bro just kill him while he's farming.Nevermind that you'll have to go deep into enemy jungle, chase him while he heals himself a million times and then feed him when you get jumped by one of his teammates, bro.
>>559827505It's mostly the movement, which streetbrool helped me learn due to the perma teamfighting. I think I got a crazy high holi wr because I spammed her in brool after figuring out movement.
i wish victor was real
>>5598265407 mo&krill and dynamo>7you can farm camps in like 1 second, tier 3s in like 10 seconds, unironically >dynamoult twice and everyone dies>mo& karrimyou never die
>>559827279My schizophrenic fever dreams where I'm playing Deadlock.
calico on team = team winsnice game deadtardseven tho i have her on ban list and so do my premades
>>559827838This
>>559827560His knife throw sucks balls. They're slow as shit and have a tiny hit box.
>>559827279I personally call yoshi
>>559827560link to build?
>>559827279I make my own based on what I see.
>>559827838>ban listYou can only ban one guy and you still get them if they have a high pick rate, unless they changed it
>>559825751R-reading comprehension, ESL-kun...>>559825980>Are they all mentally unwell over there?They have not been for a long, long time. Its just sort of a trend with that game, when you lose or dunk on someone then someone will probably leave a comment on your profile to give you + or - "rep"
>>559820971Warden not being at the very bottom in his own tier alongside George&Floyd means you failed
do these niggers even play the same game?
born to look like mina ha irlforced to look like darcy graves instead...
>>559827342All her skills usually have some tip associated with them that makes them more manageable once you know. Barrels and their displacement can lock people in place long enough to land a crackshot/lasso. (Way easier with T5 Barrel) They can also be used to cover your bouncepad if you are using them to retreat from someone who was right next to you. You can get a really quick stomp if you dash immediately after using the bouncepad, paired with a airborne light melee barrel makes for a nasty chunk of damage in lane. These are things you can get the hang of decently fast without aimtrainers.
>>559827838100% WR ANGWYYYYY!!! YOSHIII SAVE MEEEEEEEEE
Yoshi is a subhuman who loves niggers like Calico instead of based Aryan girls like Silver thats why he made NIGGElico OP as fuck and nerfed Silver to the ground.
>>559828395just do us all a favor and hang yourself already
>>559827838Wraith is worse
Is Victor gay if he jerks off since he's touching another man's dickAlthough it also isn't really him touching that dickBut at the same time he's watching one dude jerk off another dude
>>559828395just do us all a favor and live long and prosper
>>559827279I feel like puking for suggesting going there but, you go on preddit and just type the name of the hero and look for highly voted posts, if there is a lot of outcry then a nerf is likely coming. And if "pro"s are saying it's strong then it's guaranteed gutting.
>>559825980DBD is one of the only games where you can have an absolutely awful game and lose with 4 escapes as killer and you'll still get someone bitching and whining at you in post-game chat or on your profile like they lost (also they're queuing up with a cheater as well).DBD survivor players are so fucking entitled, retarded, gay, faggy, and lame.
Silvertards really want the entire playerbase to be clueless to her gameplan like the day she came out and not instantly focus their CCs and disables on the gigahitler wolf of omegarape.
>>559828630I guess as long as he isn't looking at it then it's not gay, but if he looks at his penis he's gay.
>>559827279>Where does /dlg/ get their pro-opinions from?myself>who gets nerfed feedback and stats
>>559828630no.
>>559828773Who are you quoting however
>>559828892explain your reasoning or your answer is discarded
>everyone in the official discord thinks silver before nerf was some 100% wr monsterits like a different wordl compared to this thread
>>559826071I'm a waifufag and Holliday is one of the few heroes I play
>>559828415>>559827342and I forgot to mention the barrel physics are affected by what you were doing as you press 1. if you look up or down and move backwards while grounded, the barrel will come out with basically no forward momentum. if someone is lasso'd you can throw a static barrel and then walk them into it and it will blow up on them. This is what Holliday has to do to mimic a fraction of Mo & Krill's power.
>>559828415I know all of these tricks but putting into practice is hard, a big part of it is me being the biggest aimlet on the planet
>>559828630Victor doesn't have to struggle with this dilemma since Paige just jerks him off instead
>>559828773If players use their tools at their disposal to shut down entirely your character this its shitty design. It doesnt matter what item i have, apollo still gonna fuck me over alongside any other meta hero. Thats the difference.
>there's gun Seven in my teamhow do I react without sounding mad?
>>559827703>victor, vindicta and ivyodd group
>>559829006Silver looks good because she usually snowballs early but becomes completely worthless in end game fights. Seekergods only play the first 10 minutes of the match before trying to surrender so they dont know any better.
Disgusting nigger bitch with nigga babboon nigger lips no wonder Cuckyoshi made her busted as fuck.
>>559828950My wife
>>559828990It's his body now.
this explains wraith calico
>>559829220they all have 'v' or 'i' at the start of their names
>>559829165So treat Apollo like a wolf form Silver then, silence or slow hex him and run away.
>>559829220its cute
>>559829347If you owned a slave would you consider jerking him off gay? It is your body now
>>559827964they are basically instant?
do people build for grenade or beam on kelvin nowadays
>>559828505Possibly
>>559829115Fair enough, just wanted to drop what I knew for any Holliday players like the one in this clip >>559826068I am not good enough to land headshots consistently, but honestly despite her having an ability dedicated to it, I don't really aim for them until I have an item for it like crippling headshot for countering fed carries. Her gun is good enough to get by with bodyshots, especially with some gun investment.
>>559829595You build for ice path
>>559828505the giant lips are literally the most attractive feature of black women.
>>559828671The only reason why there's outcry over Mo and Krill is because of how hard they shit on Calico and Wraith
>>559829354yoshi is....childish gambino...
>>559828505Idk, i like black girls, but i'm a slav and never seen one irl
>>559828763>DBD survivor players are so fucking entitled, retarded, gay, faggy, and lame
>>559829797dong lover designs our game. the fagginess makes sense now
>>559829862They stink, like a wet musky dog, and that's immediately after they've showered
>>559828379Unironically no
>>559829006>>559829305Most people think balance should be entirely based on their feelings and having a silver AWOOO on you sticking to you like glue while melting you before moving onto your teammate feels like shit.People don't like buying counter items because less DPS items is lame.People don't like being told their movement sucks because being reminded of personal skill issues is lame.People bitching about needing to buy counter items and Silver being OP go hand in hand.
YER DEAD*misses*
>>559829397then why isn't VIscous invited?
>>559812538Her ultimate basically has no cooldown and allows her to participate in fights from another lane in like 10 seconds. And she shoots hard lategame too with like two gun items thanks to the connection being always on.
>>559829524That's not the same, and if my brain was inside the slaves body yes I would consider it mine.
Holy shit, Silverfags are STILL whining
>>559830060Silvertards bitch when people use counter items on them. They want to be le invincible rape wolf all the time.
>>559830086AH TRIED 'TA BE NICE*dashes into tunnel*
>>559830219>>559830219>>559830219>>559830219
>>559829404With silver you run away and the come back to rape her after wolf form. With apollo you only eun for your lige nas you wont win the fcking game if you only run away.
>>559829136Wouldt that make victor a cuck since hes watching paige jerk off another dude?
>>559817256I would play it if it wasn't 40 fucking bucks
>>559829216He's not only viable but also busted don't worry
>>559826741someone should make a siivagunner rip of bebop's ult twisted into the On Sight intro
>>559825627No omes brave enough to do that lol
>>559824686I think that's a skill issue either on your part or the part of my opponents. I play her as a gravestone spammer/support and it's working wonderfully. I don't get MVP every game, but I definitely have a noticeable impact including in team fights.Against really strong enemies who are smart and experienced maybe she's not gonna do so great though. Her laning and damage is pretty weak if the enemies only take fights between ghoul waves.
>>559810814Doorman. Even when he sucked fucking dick before patch he was hated