Star of the Show Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-217955>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>559855045
FOR THE DJINN
This is actually the least fun to play patch since I came back to the game last August, every game is decided in the draft based on who gets more of the giga broken top tier heroes.
i solved the game
My bottom tier wivez
All the female characters in this game are dishonest
>>559885159that thing on the right is adorablenot so much the thing on the leftwho even is that, holliday?
>>559885037REMINDER OF DEV RETARDATION>Silver releases>Some streamer(I forgot his name) does one of those exaggerated freakout reaction gimmicks where he moused over Silver's ult, read out the stats, and went "DUDE, NO SHOT, THIS HERO LITERALLY, LIKE, LITERALLY, YOU GET SOOO MUCH SOUL VALUE JUST FROM ONE POINT IN HER ULT, THIS IS LIKE, AIN'T NO WAY BRO, SHE ACTUALLY GETS LIKE A WHOLE ITEM OF STATS JUST FROM HER ULT">Gets combined with shitlow players getting raped by Silver on Day 1 because they don't know Slowing Hex and other counter items exist>Quantum superposition: Silver is both crazy overpowered and gets a billion souls of stats from her ult and can't be escaped(if you don't buy any counters)>But also utterly useless in human form and people rightfully say "she's free kills when human">During tournament, Silver gets picked>Gets countered, does nothing, loses>Silver gets picked again>Gets countered, does nothing, loses>Silver gets picked again>Gets countered, does nothing, loses>Postgame interview, multiple (((professional))) players say the same excuse: the Silver pick was good, it just didn't perform because of counterbuys, counterplay, etc>Cope is that her presence helped her team by soaking up enemy cooldowns>Yoshi reacts to Day 1 and Day 2 news of wolf form Silver raping shitlow>Yoshi reacts to pro players claiming she's super duper OP with "data-based" analysis that cites her free stats in wolf form>Nerfs her>Shitlow still can't counterbuy>Pro league still picks her and loses with her and then uses the same cope>Psyop Yoshi into nerfing her again>Sub 50% winrate now even in shitlow as people figure out how to walk away from melee>20-something% winrate in pro>Pros are NPCs stuck on their prerecorded message>Psyop Yoshi into nerfing her again>He compensates by buffing her human form's gun>Psyop Yoshi into nerfing her againUtterly embarrassing decisionmaking and proves devs are clueless and easily manipulated by screeching
I feel like Return Fire should help keep m1ggers in check but it just lacks that one more slight buff to its passive stats
Holliday should get slow motion as a mechanic
Silver needs buffs.
>>559885192If that were true, explain Ivy.>>559885316That's what Paradox already does
>>559885251Do you think they will stick pick her in the upcoming night shift or do have they realized she's a waste of a character slot.
I'm so fucking shit at Haze and I'm trying to figure out whyI feel like it's a mix of not being able to aim for shit but also the fact that she feels like she's made of paper and I can never figure out how in-your-face she's supposed to beYet something draws me to her, I feel like if I can wrap my head around Haze I can handle basically anyoneMaybe I just need to play more until my aim unshits itself
>>559885361get in the aim trainer hyperbolic time chamber and don't come out until your avg accuracy is 90%
Holliday should get a rework
There are several characters doing worse than the dog who don't get cried about for 700 posts straight
rem would steal silver's jacket if he wasn't a tiny little chud
>>559885358nta but i think now that its so obvious that ANYONE can see how shit silver is, the pros will pivot and blame the devs for being bad at balancing while pretending like they were never the main group begging for silver nerfs for a whole month
>>559885430You're free to cry about them if you want, I'm not gonna fucking do it for youWhy do you want me doing all the heavy lifting in this relationship
>>559885358DUDE SHES LIKE SSSSS TIER IF NO ONE BUYS ITEMS OR PRESSES ANY BUTTONS SHES SO STRONG UNLIKE VICTOR
Holliday splitshot should become a base ability, but make barrels do self dmg so you can just suicide into the whole team
>>559885295I deleted a haze with it in .5 seconds once before they patched out it dealing headshot damage
>>559885430This. Your furry wife can get fixed after Holliday gets fixed
>>559885430None of those were upplayed to high heaven by a bunch of neurotic tournament troons thinking they were shaping the meta or whatever stupid shit they were doing while throwing matches on Silver.
>>559885430jewtranny persecution complex
Do we have any stats about the game getting more snowbally now? Ever match has a main character now who goes 15/1 without fail.
Vyper players on life support. Just fucking end my suffering.
Not even Ivy players cried and dilated as much as silvertroons
>>559885430True, Silverfaggots are truly the worst thing that happened to this game.
Controversial take but frontliners need to be OP otherwise they suck to play as.
>>559885616>enemy gets calico + wraithjust those two will make you lose on your own add victor and you might as well press escape and abandon
>>559885623How would you fix her, anon
>>559885251>Silver "players">All twittercord transbians>Post a ton of fanart but dont play the game>No representation, no leverage>Victor players>Silent Slavshits>Many have not developed communication ability yet>But they are a mafia that rules the dev team because they are over 50% of the entire game's playtime by combined hours played
>>559885727Evasion on slide + decease her maximum gum bloom for that true IMBA feel
https://youtube.com/shorts/bvUnGqcWWvAshe sounds like she's ready to jump on his BFC...
>>559885696tier whores would say that about every kind of character
>>559885152>>559881212>>559881245I mean I really want to agree but what happens when you are for example. Dominating the lane you were on. The others were doing fine really. And then for some reason 3 of your teammates just concentrate on one lane forever going 2/6, 1/10, 3/5. While you are pushing the other lanes just so your walkers don't get fucked. And one ONCE. Just once that you help, kill the enemies in that specific lane. Now the enemies just push the other lanes because they know you aren't there anymore and then you say to push the lane that they were having issues on, BUT THEY RETREAT for some reason while having life. Now you cannot push the lane heavily anymore because of it?
>>559885717who are you even supposed to pick to do anything vs them?>just build disarming hexlasts 3 seconds with resists>just build metal skinnukes you with cards that heal her>jus-ult is an instant free kill. none of this happens in a vaccum either unless she catches you alone. you have to contend with her while also fighting the rest of the team.
>>559885251This anon is not exaggerating it, the hack devs only listen to the streamers and "pros">Some retarded streamer complained about Shiv when he just released>They nerf Shiv and he stays nerfed for months>Some Eternus played complains about Ivy's stun with heavy melee build combos>Ivy receives the most laughable melee scaling in the game, it still is>Some tranny suggests Lash parry idea>They immediately do it like a a few days later>That anon in yesterday's thread saying he reported multiple bugs months ago that are still not fixed>I personally reported a few bugs and they only fixed them multiple months laterI despise modern devs. Their priority lies in maintaining the image instead of keep the actual player base happy. And Streamers and "Pros" ruined every, EVERY multiplayer game they touched in the last decade, no exceptions.
>>559885037how the fuck do I play this game? reload feels slow as shit and I barely do any damage.
>>559885616it is. they buffed spirit skills, spirit shred is fucked and troopers all in the same patch
>>559885689>>559885690Is this really gonna be another 100 posts containing the word Silver thread because you gotta fight those windmills?Honey, this isn't gonna work out well for you
>DUDE ITS A BETA ITS FOR TESTING BRO LIKE BRO NO SHOT BRO YOU SIGNED UP TO BETA TEST>*Patch is absolute fucking dogshit*Ok so why don't they just revert the problem characters? Would it hurt their ego by admitting they made a mistake or I guess they'd much rather bleed players in their "beta test".
>>559885251why do you niggas say yoshi instead of icefrog?
>>559885846>why do you niggas say yoshi instead of [My Headcanon]?It's a mystery, dotard.
>>559885828>muh chinese bot farm player countgo back to blizzard/riot game design/balance
what is yoshi smoking that he thinks it's ok to have this must burst damage with charges at 12 minutes
>>559885889not an argument
>>559885889If they want to get valid data from their play test they need a lot of players
>>559885846because icefrog would never listen to streamers on how should he fix his game
>>559885937>>559885925deadlock has more players than your shield heal pokeslop KEK
This patch has made it painfully clear that Valve dickrickers need to be curbstompedThey will suck Valve and Yoshi's dick nonstop no matter what.
>>559885807Sliding gives you infinite ammo so abuse that to avoid reloading. There's also 2 early and 1 lategame item to help reloading be even faster (although I never felt like it was ever an issue). Most of your burst dmg should be coming from your abilities anyways so just keep hitting those and if you're in shitlow you can keep throwing haymakers left and right without the worry of getting parried
>>559885889>My multiplayer game doesn't need players to play it, if you think players playing your multiplayer game is important you must be a chinksectGo back to /v/ this shit is embarrassing
>559885985ok mentally ill freak i dont play that shit but whatever you want to believe
>>559885916I'll deal with the hooligan.
they should rewrite Holliday's story and have her be my wife, thoughts?
>>559886065They already did but intstead of you, it's me
>>559885989>>559886020tencent zhangs found the general. hows 2xko doing
>>559885801ignore anyone telling you to buy counter items as if the wraith/calico wont just buy dispel magic or some shit in return and absolutely ream you these people are disingenuous as fuck
Silver deserves to be buffed, the jew troon tears will be delicious.
>>559886065I don't think anyone would contest you for that bag of troubles, anonIn fact I'd give you my signature on change.org to make it happen
>>559886065You mean my wife, then yes
>game has balance issues>jews and trannies with persecution complex make it all about silver
>>559886065If that's the case then I get ivy. I call dibs.
>pick mirage>eat a big plate of vegetables>stand around in fights>eventually enemies pop like overgrown pimples>winlove this little freak
>>559886128>being a corporate bootlicker of any sort>let alone when you're approaching your 30sI'm glad I'm not you.
>>559886129Counter items work in general principleThey don't work when there's multiple enemy heroes who've gotten this far beyond the pale
>>559885778>Evasion on slideSo, you think she should be a m1gger... who's also an anti-m1gger?I actually honestly fucking love the idea, ship it. I can envision the endless tears of haze and wraith mains now
>>559886240HAHAHAHAHA yet you're in my thread. no 2xko thread to cry in?
>I'll never survive if I have to buy Silence Wave>What do you mean it does more damage than the damage item I was going to buy?
What are the counter items that are supposed to stop Victor? It seems to me you need to spend at least as much as his networth to stop him, doesn't that defeat the purpose of counter items?
>>559885916they probably threw a bunch of shit at him with the thought that they'll strip some of it down later until he's in a hypothetical balance sweet spotwith further nerfs I think he and Mo should also have some kind of startup animation on their ults to make it easier to counterspell them. or you can blink out of it to break the lock- not put their ult on CD but maybe a 3-5 second reset time if the lock is broken by distance
>>5598864351.0 spirit scaling. Its like a 5th ability for 3200 souls
>>559886454the victor counter this patch is to not launch the game
>>559886454
>>559886454Spell breaker Toxic bullets Inhibitor
>>559886480You can't counterspell hotel entrance and never been able to, you can only counter the hotel exit.
>>559886561>I ult Victor with t3 ult>Nobody shoots him
>cursed relic needs to exist because otherwise carries just get to do whatever they want>cursed relic also has minus damage because otherwise carries would buy it and do whatever they wantit doesn't help me to deal with the snowballing enemy if it makes me do no damage
>>559886454Crippling Headshot>anti-heal>shred>immediately reapplied when he dispels itIt's literally THE anti-cadaverman item
>>559886635Its a team game, so use your mic. . this will be added to load screen tooltips because of mouthbreathers like you btw
>>559886635>I ult Victor with t3 ult>we kill him>he has ult up + rejuv + cheat death>need to buy refresher + curse + focus lens
>>559886561>>>>divine barrier
>>559886737Victor downplaying nigger
>>559886673They should change its penalty to either -5% all damage, or -10% bullet/melee damage
>>559885762based victorGODS just here to play the game and drink vodka
>>559886737>Use mic>Nobody listens anywayYour turn
>>559886825Can you stop posting twitter screenshotsThe algorithm knows youre a fag hence why it shows up.
>>559886810exclusively shitting on gun damage would be a good change
>>559886737true if the game didn't have a lot of people that full mute and think they're cool and based for it
>>559886825>attractive women>made to attract troonsbiansIn a way, he's right, because they attract straight men, which is what they are.
>>559886850team based games are not for the weak. Go back to league oh they just added voice in 2026 LMAOOOO looks like you're gonna be a shitter there too
>>559886936oh yeahit never even occured to me that they call themselves lesbianlol
>>559886932>noooo you have to listen to my tard babbleyou are screaming into a cold, uncaring void
>>559885159>"Us tranwrecks should stick together"
>>559887012why are you playing mp games if you're going to treat them like pve?
>>559886787suggesting ways to play against it is not the same as saying it shouldn't be nerfed. Learn to read, child
>playing graves>enemy team has a doorman>doorman arctic blast + ults me>my echo shard t3 skulls murder him while he is casting the ult lol
>hsts trans girlsgood at the game, cute too>transbiansinstant avoid / block
>>559886932>noooo you have to listen to me rage at you cause thats what we gaymers do
>>559887078no functional differenceget muted
>open random stream>...Nice patch Yoshi, this is literally every game.He nerfed Silver faster than this by the way :^)
>>559886454Most Victor builds rely on being a heal tank with almost no resistances and low max HP. If you silence him he gets burst down immediately
>>559887159can't mute me since you'll never be able to reach my rank to get the same matches
Why don't Graves players jsut throw skulls at the ground when they have full charges? They're permanent, aren't they? And it's not like the recharge timer is short enough for you to use all your charges before any given fight is over
>>559885916>djinn's mark just hit me for 700 damage in lanewhat the FUCK is yoshi SMOKING
>>559887161I was actually shocked Venator didn't get touched. I know some of his items did but that hero is still bullshit with the shotgun + blessed melee combo
>>559887016why is Silver brown?????????????????????
>>559887161>Every enemy team has Calico, Ivy and WraithMAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP THE VOICES THE VOICES THE VOICES
Epstein Rape Mina
Who do I ban between wraith and Calico?
>>559887348most people still build venator as a m1 char and not melee
>>559887348The item changes buffed him actually.
>>559887368That's not her skin, bro
>>559886932>>559887012>>559887078>>559887159>>559887280this reminds me when i played in oracle the other day some sniveling faggot onions sounding annoying nigger thinking he's the CEO of the game on voice chat constantly talking about i'm eternus im just smurfing on this account listen to my callouts to win and calling out every single misplay literally wouldn't shut the fuck up, I kept him unmuted just to shit on him for sounding like a literal cuck faggot and he got a bit worked up it was funny, genuinely most insufferable faggot I've ever seen though, that's how I imagine these rank flexer voice chat anons itt kek
>>559887316>They're permanent, aren't theyThey're not. They despawn after sometime if they're not punched or shot at.
>>559887316>They're permanent, aren't they?Nope, they have quite a short lifespan, not even enough to get two waves of creeps during lane (even if the enemy doesn't destroy them)
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>>559887479I've seen enough, more Silver nerfs coming this afternoon
>>559885345>explain Ivy.Dishonest fire rate and dishonest stone form damage.
>>559887401>>559887405fucking hell
>>559887479this calico character sure gets picked alotmust be very popular and well liked
>>559887427oh and he made one of my premades start trolling the game on purpose couz he didn't want that annoying nigga to win cause he literally wouldn't shut the fuck up guy was literally if reddit was a person if that's really what high elo looks like I'll stick to oracle thanks
>>559885916>Well you see we gave it to Rem and nobody complained because he was exclusively played by unskilled women and trannies
>>559887479They're adding a surrender vote eventually, right?
>>559887435>>559887445Oh, fair enough. I guess I just thought they were permanent because they don't have a listed durationMakes sense now
>>559887570It wasn't needed this timeThey ended at 15:17
>>559887550there are more full mute tards that refuse to play the game(like you) and just farm jungle than wannabe IGLs, what's exactly your point? they're both annoying people to have
>>559886825>lesbian>look inside>transbian
>>559887570go back to league and ff15 your life, riotranny
>>559887682Well, maybe once the game releases. The average Deadlock player has dogshit macro.
>>559887427>>559887550Yeah rank doesn't mean anything in grand scheme of things. Imagine going to a job interview and gloating about how you're high rank in a video game like they do ITT. Eternus just means you have a lot of time to waste and probably a sperg of some kind.
>>559887479Bebop should be banned from buying Echo Shard
>the “play calico wraith doorman or get raped” patchThe game was so fun before this. Utterly ruined.
>Win game>My rank goes down???
The ult changes would've been enough to bury Sheev for good but Yoshi had to remove one Stamina bar from him for good measure. Cringe or based?
>>559887695full mutes are way more chill to have, I don't wanna hear some onions faggot's annoying bitch voice telling me what to do, easier to ignore chat glad EU doesn't have that many annoying fags on voice, when people do use voice its chill
>>559887709I'm convinced 90% of "transfolk" are just loser incel males who do it half assed and are now magically "lesbians" so they can be perverts towards women, use their bathrooms and prey on loser fat women lesbos for a desperate chance to lose their virginityjust get a hooker its way easier
>>559887536deserved
>>559887793You forgot to mention Victor, he's busted too
When's the next pro match
>>559887920Two more daysIt's gonna be boring, there won't be any silver throws
>>559887920Hopefully never
>>559887946They are first picking her she's still SSS tier
>>559887946>silver throwsshes the strongest hero in the game rn
>>559887345KILL YOURSELF
>movement is the b- ACK
PSA: Hit buildings
>mcginnis on enemy team rushes lightning scroll>maxes ult>deletes me in 0.1 secondswtf is this retarded meme build. does disarm even work on her ult?
>the /v/tard who spams twitter screenshots is back
>>559888093What graves build are you using, sis?
how do you respond without sounding mad?
>>559888093I can't, they come and chase me away when I try and do that...
>>559888086>Days without Jewish Tricks>0
>>559888185>Turn around>Heavy melee him>T-bag when he dies
>>559888093What bracket, theres no way you are winning Oracle+ with all the Calico and unreliable bans.
>>559888185>how do you respond without sounding mad?I don't. I can't.>>559888247Why does the Graves family give so much in political donations to vampire families, anyway...?
>>559888094Why would disarm stop a spell?
>>559887867Uh no bro he's actually bad because he loses if the entire enemy team buys curse and coordinates perfectly.
>>559885148>no passives
>>559888368I don't know, I thought it might count as a gun attack. legtimately want to kms
>>559888450Build spirit resist and a way to slow her down like juggernaut
>>559888150I cross-referenced Deathy and Saiah's builds and then took whatever seemed alright. Lowkey I think Close Quarters might be ass, but I kinda like the item.>>559888361Arcanist 4. Oddly enough I was Arcanist 5, then went DOWN a rank for winning the game.
>>559888519Yeah thought so, have fun I wish I was still there.
>>559888519It's not. You're always going to be in range for the item to work.
>>559888094>>559888450mcginnis ult is a team delete ability rn, just one of the many cancer things in this patch, like, none of the old heroes felt as unfair or absurd as mcginnis/viscous/doorman/calico/wraith all do rnits insane how frustrating and shitty the game became overnightI curse myself for hoping for the patch the other day
>>559885696I don't think thats controversial but beyond the selfish reason, without good frontliner teamfights feel more like deathmatch and pushing walkers as a team is not a thing, its either rat or pick
>>559888634>none of the old heroes felt as unfair or absurd I mean none of the new heroes* even at release apollo it didn't feel as bullshit as calico is right now then there's the tards on the discord saying silver pre nerf was some sorta 1v9 turret delete machine and i have to wonder what game theyr'e playingshe was strong, but borderline balanced non-sensical patch of the icetard variety
>>559887368Thats her fur and jacket you retarded mindbroken /pol/fag
>>559887378Is Ivy considered good right now? Watcher's Co- I mean Kuzu Connection's new T3 seems strong but holy fuck they massacred her ult.
>>559888821Have you not played a single game? She's a teamfight menace, support and rat hero all in one.
>>559888739Silver was balanced before the patch, she's very much an "all or nothing" kind of hero because of the way her ult works.Now she's just a "nothing" hero and her ult is arguably worse than her human form, which makes you wonder what the point of her is because there's many other better heroes now that she's kinda lost her playstyle.
>>559888796Does she become more wolf every time she transforms? Will she turn into a full on wolf anthro eventually?
Epstein Rape Abrams
>be alchemist low tier scrub>play ivy>nuke people every 15 secound with no counter play in sight >the poorfags who play with me don't know how to use an anvil, even if i use it against them>the game becomes stale and boringMaybe they'll revert the ivy changes because of all the people im abusing, not that i want that
>>559888615I mean, that's literally my entire play history. I assume you can't rank up that quickly, but either way I doubt I'm going to reach Eternus. If I had to guess I'll probably end up in the Ritualist-Emissary range. I still stomp my lanes and it's clear that Graves should not be doing that so I'll get out of this Elo soon.>>559888617I'm pretty sure Close Quarters is 15m, and Graves has 18m of range. Oddly enough, I couldn't find anything saying how far it. 18m is just what I heard from some random youtube video.
>>559887545>dishonest fire ratenot the 2 damage per pellet!
>>559889006nigga ivy is just ok strong for sure but not half as bs as calico wraith infernus nigger trio or mcginnis visc doorman antifun
People keep pointing out k/ds like 3/12 as if this was LoL and that's powerfeeding, but with this patch that's just average for someone on the losing team
>>559888925retards that thought fighting wolf instead of just kiting her and deleting her after was too mentally taxing so they cried for nerfs, now there is no point in playing her.
>>559888925She was terrible even on release.She's not a tankShe's not a m1 carryShe's not a assassinWhat role is she supposed to represent besides being a jobber.
>>559889143yeah I actually need to make a forum post calling out how bad the map changes are. Game plays so much worse now.
>>559888064>we still wonhow does your character do this much damage and you still lose
BIG MISTAKE, PAL>*leaps out onto a building*>*gets away with 200 HP*AWOOOOOOOOOO
>Bell>Bell>Kidnaps you>Bell>BellLiterally, what is the counterplay?
we friends?
Shooting Holliday barrels with splitshot causes them to deal much more damage and this is news to me
>>559889143I dont give a fuck, I report anyone with two digit deaths for griefing
>>559889118Ivy is arguably the strongest character in the game right now
TOP TEN THANOS CHAR IN DEADLOCK
>>559889346Love this lil guy he cute :)
>>559888973Yes she'll even grow a cock to rape others with and turn them into werewolves like her
>>559889402??? genuinely what game are u niggers playingi played roughly 50 matches since the patch and there hasn't been ONE where calico isn't picked or banned or when it got in and it didn't start snowballing with the 300 extra souls per kill thing
>>559889220She was a cool early/midgame frontliner able to make big space with wolf dives, compensated for with a crippling weakness to ganks in human form and a complete inability to survive lategame teamfightsIn dota role terms I guess I would call her not an initiator but just like an actual chaos-causing bruiser, she was best when she followed an initiator in and initiated more
>>559889435I would like rem to sleep in my bed like a little plushie for me to hug
>>559889346with benefits
>>559889362>still lost the gameclassic holliday
>>559885916Pretty funny seeing everyone complain about the bells now that he is popular when last patch anons wouldn't listen to me when I told them bells were really good nukes and they should go full spirit.
>>559889220Nah, she was very strong for the 2 days before her first nerfs. As for her role, ideally she would constantly fight skirmishes after the laning stage and snowball her team's lead from there. Because her strength is small engagements where she doesn't have to deal with as many saves and CCs, especially early before people buy counter items. So a high tempo brawler/assassin type who plays more if a disruption role in later fights.Right now she doesn't really do any of that because she sucks, but that's how you should play her when she's a functioning character in my opinion.
>>559889471She has a cookie though
okay you fucks convinced me, if I play the normal matchmaking will I get instantly matched with players with 10 trillion hours played? I only say this because I am not seeing any ranked mode
>>559889589retard
>>559889589last patch he wasnt able to spam them 2 mins into the match
>>559889768You may or may not, people have no idea for sure how initial placement matches are decidedOnce you get a rank, though, the people you play with will generally be to your skill level, whether you like it or not.
>>559888918I played one game as her where we lost but I'm willing to accept I'm just not very good as her. Just wondering how much of our failure was because of the changes and how much was due to my incompetence. I've already heard some people suggest the changes to her haven't been kind.
>>559889512Same but also one of his lil helpers
Just got out of a game where the enemy team had Bebop, Viscous, and Mo & Krill. Shit is so cancer man.
>>559889527>play Rem>no carry friend to use me like a sleeve after every gameif only
>>559889768>will I get instantly matched with players with 10 trillion hours playedYeah
>>559889220Bro what are you smoking her performance on release is on SilverTards not her hero. Human sucked but wolf made so much space.
buying res items is so useless shit is still one shotting you
>>559889965Her performance is all on the retards playing against her not knowing what counter items or kiting or ropes are
LIFTING
>>559889965That goes both ways, her winrate would've naturally dropped once people figured out that you should kite her ult and then kill her.
yeah im not playing the game with the state it is rn. this 'balance' patch is just 100% rape games at ritualist. Far worse than the previous patch. wraith and mcginnis every single game and even counter items do nothing.
>>559889768Do not put any faith in the matchmaker at all.
>>559889471oh my god that's horrible, I would hate to be completely helpless as she pins me down and forcefully shoves her gigantic musky red rocket into my ass and knots me, filling me with puppy batter
>>559890136STOOOOOP AIEEEEE
>>559890080>>559890158Of course it would, but she was still solid if she actually procced her wolf (she couldn't human was that shit)
>dogshit gun scaling>dogshit melee scaling>can't even tank right anymoreher only two niches are currently being a spirit nooker or a haze cocksleeve and once she gets hit with nerfs she'll feel like shit to play as her only remaining role will be the latter
>>559890136Wraith says this as she picks up cute shota boys and lifts them up so she can suck their dicks while standing
>>559889773Are you the retard that was complaining Doorman had no damage every thread?>>559889792>last patch he wasnt able to spam them 2 mins into the matchYes, he was because you build rapid recharge into compress cooldown every game.
>>559890284She was good, not broken and far from good enough to warrant shitcanning
>>559890440>Yes, he was because you build rapid recharge into compress cooldown every game.oh well I don't play him and he surely wasn't as prevalent as he is now
>>559890496Yeah, I think you are mistaking what I was trying to say.
>brawl against a bebop with tank buster enhanced and echo shard in round 1RIP
>BRO VISCOUS IS SO DOGSHIT BROKEN>doesn't try to parry a single punch the whole match
>>559890561I agree.
>>559889826>>559889897>>559890212how do I learn the game if I play with a nigga who has 30 years of experience then?
They desperately need an 800 item that gives spirit survivability. Even at 1800 spirit shielding is useless because it doesn't proc on the initial damage so it doesn't help you in lane trades.
>>559890664your spirit sap?
>no green witch hero
>>559890652Ask him to spend an hour teaching you some basics or something. If he's your friend, there's no reason for him not to
>>559890440>durrrr last patch anons wouldn't listen to me when I told them bells were really good nukes and they should go full spirit.> Call Bell explosion damage increased from 55 to 85.>Call Bell T2 Explosion Damage increased from 40 to 75.>Call Bell T2 now increases spirit scaling by +0.6keep larping KEK
>>559890664There honestly should be 800 soul items that upgrade into bullet resist and spirit resilience
>>559890615oh well we won, can't beat a victor in brawl
i dont want to get good and carry myselfcan somoene jusst let me put bebop bomb on them and i can watch you go in and detonate it for me pleaseand carry me to eternus rank 1
>>559890652>>559890746against*
>>559890652everyone was shit at one point. this game requires you to learn a lot so if you find it fun (lol on this patch) keep playing and work on your macro. do yourself a favor and mute anyone talking shit to you.
holliday niggas do all this just to almost die to a bebop standing still and ulting
It’s interesting watching these cretins try to defend current doorman so that their free win hero doesn’t get gutted. He is SSS tier dishonest.
>>559885134This isn't true, you'll still lose if the OP heroes are on your team because forced 50% gives you dogshit teammates.I had a game the other day where my team had a Calico who went 2/9 and a Wraith who went 15/1 and was 30k souls ahead of everyone else, and we still lost because the Wraith just sat on a sidelane trying to solowin the game and refused to join a single teamfight.
>>559891036For your first few games, if you see someone like that, you probably don't. Just focus on yourself and not on any other faggots in the match, except when they're helping you. Even if you get crushed, you can still learn.
>>559891086Yeah but you feel cool as fuck for the first 15-20 minutes of the match so it ballances out
>>559891036Watch some games to maybe get an idea of macro.
>make another feedback post>again instantly 1 view before I can even click on it myselfI'm scared yoshi might have agents outside my house
>>559891086>that fight starting at 0:13>holliday decides to fuck off and jump around in a big circle with all abilities up except crackshot>joins the fight at 0:22>9 fucking seconds of just jumping around doing nothing and wasting stamina
>>559891491>go in 2v4 and diegreat idea retard
>>559891491>being predictable and staying still against bebop dynamo and hazeholy eternus 6 player
what's taking them so long to nerf the negresses? they were awfully quick to change paradox twice
>>559891847Because they aren't actually OP just buy counter items ok
>>559891847maybe because Paradox didn't have a fourth ability after the nerf, the wall was completely useless
>>559891491do you genuinely not see the urn drop? at that point you buy time for teammates to arrive and fight around that
>>559889402She's good, but not the strongest. The difference is people now have to give a shit to her abilities and ult because it actually deals something unlike before where you could just take the little damage and stun and shrug it off. Plus her gun damage scaling was absolutely destroyed.
Epstein Rape Billy
>enjoy calico playstyle>shes so op this patch its not even funwelp
>>559889402Fuck no, what rank? Callico exists.
I am having fun playing Deadlock.
>>559892172hope you fucking die
Belly rubs
I bet half the people itt don't even play the game, they just watch other people play on twitch
it's funny all Calico needed was for her 2 to actually be reliably hittable to be OP
trophy collector should have no stack limit
>>559892304Sex with huge werewolf form.
>>559892172what the fuck is wrong with you????
I'm making a short theme for the doorman. hows this sound so far? https://voca.ro/13rcWEj0m3vk
>>559892076The worst thing that can happen to you in this type of vidya is for your favorite characters to end up overpowered. Then>other people will pick it away from you>other people will ban it away from you>people will seethe at you for playing it when you do get it>people get a better idea of how to counterplay you>you have the threat of the inevitable nerf hanging over your head like a guillotine because it's very likely the retard devs will overcompensate with a huge nerfThe golden zone is 49% winrate or something like that. Meta chasers don't bother with anything below 50%, freeing you from a ton of competition and bans. It also implies your favorite character isn't that terrible and if you git gud on it you can easily start winning more than you loseRight now I'm hoping they slap Doorman down just enough that all the shitters fuck off. I've been playing him since the very start, all these tourists are locusts who follow the patch notes
>>559892336I play the game and jerk off to the men___
>>559892609If not AI: neat. Too much emphasis on Evil Villain McBadguy motif. Doorman's charm is he's pretty jovial about being a huge nigger tormenting normies for fun
>>559892792>If not AIit's not
>>559892343And getting an extra 25-50% souls per kill.
>>559890652You could not pick a worse patch to learn the mainmode. Don't bother.
>>559892846based and sovl
>>559892792before i listen to it is it cringe?
>>559892609Feels kind of generic like the theme of a Hollywood villain, bellboy's more subtle
>>559892609Needs to feature a call bell
>>559892846Nice, what program is that?
>>559892623>Revert bell>Remove the ult refundDoorman would be perfect
>>559892609>>559892970>>559892792yeah imo its too upbeat idk, should be more creepy/subtle/subdued whatever
>>559890334They can just revert her ult CD and she'd be fine
>>559892930You are cringe for giving a shit if it's cringe. Live a little, worst case scenario it's cringekino.
>>559893283nah i'm based
i have no idea how to draw vinny's hair, someone help pls
>>559893545reference image
i can't tell if na lobbies are evenly matched at the highest skill level and that's why you usually don't see shit like this from eido/deathy etc. or if eu lobbies are so wildly imbalanced and the sweatlord russian blyats are so much better than others in the eternus lobbies
>>559893545Nigger you already drew a braid on GT just do the same thing on Vindicta but bigger.
>>559893609cringe calico abuserthis guy was feeding on silver on the tourney
>>559892304I love the look of the werewolf here, not so much so the unicorn>>559892596This, but unironically
>>559893609i though xqc hates this game. isnt he NA
Sinclair has got to be the most faux skill character in the game second only to Pocket.
>>559892609It doesn't sound bad but other anons are right, it is kind of generic. Kind of reminds me of the sort of BGM you would hear in a soulsborne game when you walk into a citadel or chapel>>559893054It's the opposite. To be clear I'm not a music guy so I don't know any of the right terms but>Doorman>Gameplay is pretty fast(compared to niggers like Ginnis who need to set up, or Victor farming for 30 minutes to come online and 1v6)>Big damage, quick rotations across the map, randomly dropping out of the sky to ult someone, etcSlow subdued stuff doesn't meshHe's a demigod LARPing as a hotel bellhop. Forced politeness and big cartoonish artificial body movements. Also the hotel he works at has a French proprietress. All of that makes me think of the vibes from the Grand Budapest Hotel or archetypical mid-late 1900's Trente Glorieuses cultureStraying into fanfic territory but Doorman feels like he would listen to Charles Trenet or something while doing housekeeping chores. What you're aiming to create probably has more similarities in tune to Les Copains d'Abord or Milord, with a threatening undertone (the way some of Doorman's more intense voicelines hint at his true nature of being a capricious trickster deity)
>>559893856movement used to matter with pocket for hitting his 1s but lol let's remove all skill
>>559893841He's french canadian
>>559893856It's actually HollidaySinclair takes more skill
>>559892792>>559892970>>559893054>>559893867I was going for more when he goes full mask off evil nigmode. Like how you feel when you're on a killstreak with him or something. I was gonna add a part that's basically hotel jazz music at the end but i got lazy so it's just a piano riff.>>559893051FL studio
>>559893841yes
>>559893956that doesn't make sense. one is eu and one is NA
I might as well kill them all
Silver's moist cookie...
>>559894061he says this while receiving btw
>Try to manfight Seven when he's ulting>I die and this is fair>Try to manfight Bebop when he's ulting>I die and this is fair>Try to manfight Warden when he's ulting>I die and this is fair>Try to manfight Yamato when she's ulting>I die and this is fair>Try to manfight Silver when she's ulting>I die and this is unfair and needs to be nerfed
>>559892609I can't comment on what kind of tone it should have like other analyzers.All I can do is exhort you with all urgency to NOT have any fucking voice bites in your music, PLEASEEither full lyrics or instruments only, don't use soundbites made for a specific situation in music people might listen to on loop, I implore youFor the record though I did like it. I can envision like a loop animation of him standing there, grinning, tapping his foot and twirling his keyring to it
>>559893976Fuck no lol.
>>559894141Move Away Nigga
Silverfags are like dogs and when they get uppity we electroshock them with nerfs
>>559894141>>Try to manfight Silver when she's ulting>>I dieLmao no
>>559894092werewolf grip
>>559893930You mean last patch? I geuss.
>>559894301enjoy being shat on by calico wraith 30k souls ahead w 0 counterplay instead nigger
>>559894404I won't because I stopped playing :)
>>559894423Yeah the jew troons upplay White heroes like Silver and downplay the nigger heroes, good thing straight White men call out their hypocrisy.
how the fuck do i play yamatoi tried to play her and i went 1/12
>>559894301>>559894327Ludicrously kino timing. The weltgeist manifested itself for a moment here to put these two posts next to each other.First the schizo, still fighting last thread's war. And then, on cue, the schizo's subject steps forward and turns the spotlight of a complaintpost onto himself.It's the 4chan post equivalent of those shitty ragebait streetside interviews. 0:16 long. Homeless man babbling about Chinese stealing his copper wires or something while the Tiktoker nods and hums. But in the last 2 seconds the camera catches three Chinamen dressed as Fu Manchu dashing past, carrying big bundles of copper wire. Cut. That's a wrap, folks
>>559894551Don't go in and keep dying if you lose lane.
>>559894404Just ban her :)
>>559894092>>559894380imagine how it must grip and follow your cock as you pull it back........ before plunging it back in and forcing a bit of the mix of precum and cookie juice out...............
>>559894620but what do i do on her if i can't go in?all she does is go in
>>559894649Ivy if she real
why do fags hate when i bm
>>559894729just farm nigger
Epstein Rape Warden
>>559886850we live in different realitiesmy comms get listened to the majority of the time if they're direct, non-aggressive, and useful.consider relearning how to talk to people.
>>559893856Sinclair is both the Lash that tugs your whole team and the Dynamo that stunlocks them. Very fun character that feels rewarding to learn and play.
>>559894465desu same at least solo, i only play w friends since this patch hit, game is unplayable rn, i'm never gonna be hype for patches again
>>559893609that's just a snowball hero snowballingbut the lobby is literal whos
>>559894729Greens; Escape utility like warpstone and>>559894806>>559894814That doesn't make him any less boring or faux skill though. When I first played Pocket I was taken agast by how fucking easy he is compared to even Mina in her prime. Sinclair is in a similar vein in that he has an S+++ escape lane nuke that is the only hard thing in his kit, S+ teamwide CC if you build for it and his overpowered ability to have teamwipe ults off CD so fast.
>>559893856>"Keep your eyes on the bolt!">nukes you for 3k HP through resists from the other side of the map
>>559895049People dodge that shit no problem in real mmr and instantly split. Movement and her 1;2;3 is why she is OP.
>>559887827There's nothing to convince, that's all it is. Of trans, maybe 5% of the current ones are actually trans. The rest is just fetish shit and mental illness.
>>559895161>herWho?
>>559892609Really great work. Fits the tone well. The only nitpick I have is to rework the dissonant chord at 0:24. Idk what it is but I found that very distracting and offputting. I hope thats helpful. I loved the sample of him laughing.
>>559885251This game has tournaments?
>>559895251mindbroken
people are starting to get tired of this patch
>>559895401newfagGOD
>>559895202LGBTQXYZSUV are the biggest internet sex pests. I don't even mind fags anymore but if that is your entire personality I will dislike you.
>>559890759nta but didn't it have impact damage? You are being dishonest here. Before it took a modicum of skill to do full damage, now you just actually spam it on cd, can't miss it.
>>559895251>>559895412He's talking about Savannah Sinclair, duh
>>559895524It's a yes or no questionNow answer
>>559893636Good idea, ty
>>559895514most deserved drop ever
>>559895514look at the state of you
>>559895514It's ASS. Even ignoring the broken heroes the fundamental gamemode sucks now.>TTK down rewarding boring ass burst instakill snowball gameplay>Walkers melt again>Midboss has no contest in pubs due to the warning popping at 50% instead of 70% unless your entire team is literally sitting in midlane the moment it makes the soundIt's so bad and that's without taking into account Calico and Wraith. I can't even complain about Viscous and Doorman or any of the others since those two are so fucking broken.
>>559895514Yep, thinking I'm going to uninstall, no point in playing a game that isn't popular.
>>559895514the drop should be bigger
>>559895514>we are returning to levels not seen since last week But this patch is distilled retardation.
>>559895514>people are starting to get tired of this patchwow it's like... every patch in every game in existence
yeah i'm starting to believe that the devs have some bias around wraith and calico in this patchvictor on release was nerfed at the hour and over the next couple of days so there is no way they couldn't adjust those two yesterday to be less bullshit or just revert some of the buffs
>>559895846It's how league of legends players play their game so they love it.>instalock FOTP OP characters>coinflip everygame into snowball>only play in parties, duos minimumIt's just how they are, I'm not surprised that it brought in more players.
For the entirety of this patch I have been spamming street brawl with Paige and Ivy and just spamming huge aoesI'm not playing the main mode when wraith, calico and doorman are allowed to exist in their current state
>>559895037Explain faux skill, what's boring about him, and who's fun in your opinion then because I think his skill expression and ceiling is amongst the top. Delaying bolts, hitting them around cover, faking misses, stealing camps, swapping allows you to do a bunch of crazy shit, and his ultimate is great because of the ways all different ultimates can interact with your skillset.
Why does Yoshi keep making objectives more and more uselessJust remove guardians and walkers and increase soul gain if you don't want them to do anything but be bags of money
>>559893609thats like one of the top 10 players in the world on the best character this patch
>>559896032You're evil for your character pool in brool of all things but yes I'm doing the same. It's unplayable soloQ since NO ONE FUCKING BANS WRAITH OR CALICO.
>>559896043because you don't need to do any secret tech to win with sinclair you just bolt m1 and copy the strongest ult
>>559895920i mean not really? the original big update saw player numbers continue to rise as it went on and it had a lot of longevity, we're only starting to see people quit now due to calico/wraith/victor/doorman and the overall balance of the game
>>559895514>Mo n Krill having zero risk to ulting someone in a teamfight>Doorman being extremely oppressive in every point of the game with bells, worsening as he upgrades ult.>Tons of overtuned spirit nuke in general.
>>559895514I apologise to M1 niggers, your gameplay is insufferable but at least you have clear distinct counterplay. Wtf am I supposed to do early/mid against a fed calico who just oneshots me. Cry?
>>559895514You see the same characters every match, even if you win it's tiresome. This wasn't the case even when he new characters dropped, you still had some variety in team compositions
>>559896068towers are even more important in deadlock because of ziplines, but you wouldn't realize that at ritualist
>all the focus on how wraith and calico are OP and silver is UP>meanwhile frankenstein hebrews are getting away with downplay MURDERThey're LAUGHING at us with their 70% winrate
>>559895514the peak is clearly higher than the other weekdays, retard
>>559893867Doornigger's theme is elevator music because he is annoying.
Epstein Rape Dynamo
>>559896271are you blind bro? march 9th looks like a cock and balls with a high peak and then march 10th looks like small underage tits
>>559896269Are you a spirit hero? Buy Heal Bane/Spirit BurnAre you a gun hero? Buy Inhibitor/Crippling HeadshotsAre you a support? Buy curse.He's a basic IQ test and the fact even eternus players will lose to him goes to show rank is a meme.
>>559895954most of the calico changes are fine. ava, gun, and slash QOL was needed for her in the same way that vindicta desperately needed crow reworkthe soul hyperscale on her slash T2 is something i can only attribute to stupidity or malice. she absolutely does not need that.
>>559896123
we have a level 0 steam account smurfing in my ritualist game playing infernus and is an account seller. what can I buy to fuck him over?
>>559895943I'm playing less thoughbeit
It's over they've hit the peak and its all down hill from hereSELLUNINSTALLSELL
>>559896458farm all the jungle then give the bag to the enemy
>>559896269victor is fundamentally a bad design gameplay-wise because he can be useless for 20-30 minutes and still come online and become a raidboss rapist that nobody can shut down even if you counterbuy himall the niggers screaming at the top of their lungs TO JUST COUNTERBUY VICTOR have never played against victor
>>559896419Doing all this doesn't actually stop him.
>>559896419so funny when seekers act smart
>>559896523>all the niggers screaming at the top of their lungs TO JUST COUNTERBUY VICTOR have never played against victorBecause they're Victor players
>>559896523You should have ended the game when he was useless then, seeing as its 5v6 according to you
>>559896119But you CAN, which makes it fun. By that metric what character isn't faux skill?>Yamato just needs to ult and slash>Lash just needs to ult and ground strike>Pocket just needs to coat and ult>Doorman just needs to ult and bellThe list goes on.
>>559896119Sinclair is low skill floor sky high cieling, playing them well is easy but you kinda have infinite skill scaling with game knowledge
go counter pain battery build victor, would love to see thatit's ridiculously broken
>>559896043>1Bolts need not apply they are skillful if anoyingly strong burst.>2Very cheap ability, best repositioning in the game near instant. High skill ceiling? Sure, but it's cheap and easy to use with little counterplay unless the sinclair fucks up.>3Alright this one is more "fair" but it's still an amazing CC when it lands or is built for. Also if your in the bracket where people can aim and the bunny hitbox shrink isn't a buff for them it's even stronger.>4Hilariously OP if there was draft more people would realise how broken this fucker is. Having Dynamo ult / Celeste ult / Lash ult etc up way faster than they can have it up is huge and on top of it all disgustingly broken it is if you build for it. Before they added the unique sound cue it was also super easy to catch people offguard during the ult sounds due to them sounding exactly the same so if you aren't deliberately checking who ulted / teammates are comming for it he could get say a huge slam off MUCH EASIER than a lash could because the enemy team would think it's their own ult; Thankfully this was nerfed but it doesn't matter since no one plays sinclair so you can still catch 90% of the playerbase off guard with it.
>>559896584And you instantly reapply it with Heal bane/Crippling? He can't remove curse either unless a support divine barries him.
FREAK THE FUCK OUT AND PANIC SELL EGG RIGHT NOWIT'S OVER
>>559896689holliday since you need to know all movement tech to utilize jump pad you can't just put it down and hold W in airalso obviously aiming
>>559896269Calico ends the game before he comes online.
>>559896269Doesn't matter if the Wraith and Calico on the other team win the game before he even comes online.
>>559896774ITS A BLACK GOLDEN GOOSE EVENT AAAIIIEE MY SOUL INVESTMENTS
>>559896774he doesn't know
>>559896774NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY 666K!
>>559896851>>559896857>unabalnced thing is actually balanced if other unbalanced thing happens!
>>559896774FUUUUUUUUUUCKI WENT ALL IN
>>559896235THISSS every single fucking matchwraith calico doorman wraith calico doorman mcginnis wraith calico doorman wraith calico doorman mcginnis sprinkle viscious, haze, ivy and infernus for flavor, i barely even see the new heroes anymore
You don't get it bro using bolt while aiming in air then pressing 1 again on ground is hard bro trust me
>>559896964go back to skillshot+flash game design for every champ, riotranny
>>559896964I've literally not seen Victor do anything at all this patch because of the reason I just mentioned. He can get nerfed if he's overtuned like the other half a dozen top tier heroes at the moment but he's not in the same tier as the lobby rapists.
>>559896964Yes? That's how it works. They are just so much stronger than vic/doorman/visc AND EASIER TO PLAY CORRECTLY tha they are a much worse issue. Venator went from kinda strong to dogshit and it's all because of changes to other characters.
>>559897126victor is literally an eternus+ lobby rapist thougheverbeit which invalidates everything you downplayers screech
>>559896774They should make a stock certificate item that fluctuates in value and you can only see how much it's worth on a stock ticker on one part of the map.
>>559896518dont think its doing much really he's 1v6ing their team
>>559897020I think that was the last 'okay' variant of the Jak before we entered the darkages.
C&C
>>559897116who are you even talking to or about?
>>559896584>toxic bullets + healbane>don't stand in the fuck you aurai do this as mina into victor's and they shit themselves. they almost never buy remover or cleanses until late game and i very easily proc -54% healing on them because they just stand in front of you. the % damage from toxic also eventually forces them to either stay and pop ult or stop their aura and run.
>>559897290It should be global locked too so you can see the moment when everyone stocks tank by the seethe in the thread.
>>559896458Don't just take the free win and report him. Dude will just go to a different account, he doesn't care. There is zero reason to fuck over your or your teams main account by griefing.
>>559897270>Wraith has the double the pick rate while having a higher winrate over himI dunno mateThe facts are against you.
>>559897116More bothered by his 2+4 but yeah ontop of it all he has a strong lane once you learn how to use bolt. At least it takes skill :)
>>559896269victor is nonexistant until he gets his items meanwhile calico and wraith are cancer from minute 5 and only get worsethere is a big difference
>>559897480wraith being a lobby rapist doesn't stop victor from being a lobby rapist you subhuman nigger lmao
>>559897442valve does not give a single rats ass about cheaters, smurfs or account boosters. reporting does nothing. I just want them to win.
>>559897270>>559896269wasn't it 70% like some of you upplayers were crying about KEK
>>559897351bitch doesn't want to ruin her hair
>>559897605>I just want them to win.Oh my mistake, yeah fuck that just stand still when they catch you out. Don't give them pleasure.
>>559897575>WAH WAH I'M TOO DUMB TO BUY CRIPPLING HEADSHOT/CURSEGo back to overwatch.
>>559897571>victor is nonexistant until he gets his itemshttps://www.twitch.tv/sanya_sniper2011/clip/MiniatureAbrasivePheasantHassanChop-WpZKGUA9DuJh9XXI21k victor btw
deadlock is good because there are no russian characters besides drifter
>>559897820>t. Too dumb to buy disarming hex and curseReductionism is so easy
>>559897834Alright you win. At least he isn't as common as wraith/calico
>>559897754the smurf infernus disconnected and they won.
>>559897887haze and seven are too with your criteria
>>559897887>Mina>Vinny>HazeUnless you mean *literally* russian...
i love victor very much and even when they nerf him to oblivion i'll still play him because i was a sona otp in league so i dont care thank you
*buys egg and trophy collector*
the only reason victor doesn't have an even higher winrate is because so many retards with no aim or brain and fujotrannies like >>559898148 play him
>>559898148uhhh, full?
>>559897754he was on our team I should've mentioned. sucks for my other teammates but smurfing and selling boosted accounts is loser behavour. hope he gets drafted soon.
>>559897834>300 hp mina decides to go back to fight a full HP Victor with her t0 ultdo pro players really
>>559898148>braindead aura bot bimbo to somewhat low skill statcheck aura hunkWha....Huh???
>>559897834>a retarded mina low on health doing shit play after shit playok?
>Buy Disarming Hex, Silence Wave, T.CD, Superior Duration>Someone on the enemy team is guaranteed to start bitching at me at some pointThis is great
>>559897834MINA?RAPED!CAN'T HANDLE AURAFARMING WHITE BOY
>>559898260>just let your walker dieseekerGOD
>>559898364true eternus 6 players let the walker die AND feed the enemy
>>559897970I accept your concession.
>>559898260yeah everyone expects the minion in early game to deal 500 damage at 20 meters
>>559898302Identify what was shit about it Dying to Victor does not count
>>559898031>>559898138drifter is russian in spirit
stop argueing with the chatgpt shitposting bot plox.
im really curious about how the draft mode will look like. The current pick/ban system is fine but doesnt encourage drafting up comps or counterpicking which will be lots of fun
>>559898302>low on healthgee I wonder why, fucking retardequal souls mina can't do ANYTHING to victor at 20k souls, he clearly doesn't need "his items" to exist>>559898537dying at the end is obviously a mistake but he just underestimated the battery range
I have been getting paired with retards for days now, my rating is tanking and it feels like there is nothing I can do about itprobably best to just quit at this point, the matchmaking is clearly fucked
>>559898226i have autism and tryhard with victor because i hate seeing a beautiful man such as him dying from my own incompetence; my winrate in archon 2 is 58% or something. im trying to lower my rank but it doesn't matter i can lose 5 in a row it places me back in archon>>559898231https://x.com/oyabuchu/status/2030482258465857920
I think my lab partner knocked me up.
>>559897834>no meaningful spirit resistance/shielding>fails to proc toxic bullets after jumpstart cleanse before escaping>spirit sap instead of remover for the reverb hit>not willing to just concede walker and instead goes in with 25% healthunironically a pile of misplays in that cliponly thing i will say is the range of pain battery needs to be better communicated, but getting that 2nd toxic bullet proc in the first brool would have unironically saved that walker or delayed his push
>>559898728what will your father think apollo?
>>559897270aren't there like 500 eternus playersthere is 0 sample sizeu don't balance games around 500 playersdo ascendant + at least if u want a high elo sample, prob enough size
Pain battery Victor is unironically more fun than aura Victor
>>559898780>unironically a pile of misplays in that clipit doesn't matter what the Mina does when the argument was that Victor doesn't exist in the game until latethis is at 20k souls and he's just shitting on a Mina at equal investment. if Mina has to buy >spirit resistance at 20k to fight a hero that supposedly is nonexistent until late, it's a bit surreal
>>559892609I like the obviously Portal inspired instruments, but I feel like you are missing the point of the Doorman's character. This theme is mostly for the true Doorman that used to torment man for fun. But not for the Doorman that wears a human face and works a service industry job to learn about humanity. This guise only slips for the ritual. Basically, you should aim for a vibe like this:https://youtu.be/9yGGNohmAT0while your track's current vibe is closer to this:https://youtu.be/mewbPAtkbAw
>>559898846top 1k starts at e4
>>559898980yeah, miniscule sample size, you can't get a proper picture of the char from that u should factor in overall WR and for high elo ascendant +, low elo ritualist- viktor is pretty great though, but imo not comparable to wraith calico, calico needs an immediate hotfix and idk why it hasn't been adressed
>>559898980>>559899084It was the same shit if I set it to Asc III+.
>>559897270>calico has 74.6% pick rateI understand wanting to win, but who the fuck has fun playing Calico? Everything about her sucks and she has to be the worst design in the entire game
>>559895514I look at the graph and I'm really not seeing that.
>entangling thorns has a cooldown of 32s that after buying all the CD items becomes 20sThis is fucking bullshit, i want to skin yoshi alive
>>559899084i accept your concession
>>559899134she's one of the most fun heroes in the game
>>559899134>who the fuck has fun playing Calico?You know those people that *need* to win all the time or blow a gasket? Those are the people who like Calico.
>>559899235not the guy u were arguing with niggajust saying sorting by eternus + as if its an own is retarded, 30% of the ladder is autistic OTPs that can only play one hero and the other third is chinese scripters
>>559899234ECHO SHARD!!
>>559899234yeah the long ass cd is why i cant play ivy
How do you block people?
>>559885037Its kind of amazingg just how dogshit mirage is. He takes a trillion years just to do 2/3rds of the damage that someone else would without even really having the kind of sustain he would need to actually be able to sustain that play style.
>>559899448Did you actually get this build spamming tranny in your game?
>1000 hours in>haven't played half of the roster anyone else
>>559894785https://youtu.be/pJCxcdWqdto?is=nPM7UYgEygYV2f_p
>Doorman in lore: a sadistic god who takes pleasure in tormenting people>Doorman in game: the sameBravo Valve, you did it again.
>>559899535I know I should try every character, but a lot of kits look really boring so I've never played them.
>>559898537how about the first seconds when she WALKS INTO THE AURA LIKE A MOUTHBREATHER? or is that somehow a smart play>>559898619>i wonder whysee above retard or if you stay still and let me spam headshots and the suck as geist it means that geist is uber broken and doesn't need items? dumb raped nigger
Not downplaying him but I barely see Victor in matches, while Wraith, Calico, Ivy and Doorman apparently have a 100% pick rate because holy shit I rarely see a match without those 4.
>>559899523Thankfully no, I just get sick to my stomach seeing the builds.
>>559899535I have 1k hours in cs2 and i've played on dust 2 only
Still falling btw
>>559893609I recognize that viscous and miku.
Before the latest big rebalance patch I got around 60-50 fps and now I'm getting 30 or below wtf are they doing
>>559899535genuinely wtf is wrong with you, i get so bored of playing the same hero, 200 hours and I've played each char several times, the roster is way too tiny for a moba imo, espescially during patch days like this, I see the same chars all the time, even league of legends with its retarded keep 20% OP balance has more variety
>>559899535I don't play the m1 ones so yeah
>>559899709She'll go lower and stay there for months because either Yoshi hates her or balances solely based on the community memes
>>559899736idk i just play the top 5 pretty much, don't even remember my last yamato/haze game or anyone below it. half the roster is at 0 games totalsome heroes just click for me
>>559893609I can't bring myself to play Calico. Going to just abuse MiguVicWraith if I'm desperate for the normal game.
>>559899484just aim bro
>>559896123It had already began dropping before this balance patch hit (not that deadlockfags were willing to acknowledge that).It almost feels like this patch was rushed out to try and keep up momentum, but that only works if the patch is, you know, good.
>>559899891im just playing since 2 weeks and trying to focus on just a few heros to learn the fundamentals but I eventually wanna branch out. I just absolutely suck at the game and trying to balance that plus learning the game idk I just throw trying to learn new heroes so I stick with 3 main ones
>>559900223How's the experience been for a fresh new player? Where you put in lobbies with people with much more experience than you?
>>559900210I was playing daily before the balance patch but afterwards every fucking match is>Calico>Wraith>Infernus>Doorman
>>559885451that’s why his fur is black
>>559900223Wait so you played 72 matches in 200 hours?
>>559900640i'm the 200 hours guy that's a different guy...i got DL in 2024 but it was some ass and hard to justify getting into, I only got back into it with old new gods patch
>>559900726Okay you replied to him like it was a direct respone with the same writing style
>>559898930>victor doesn't exist until late is wrong because i can't excuses my missplays not how it works, a character not being the raid boss monster he is at late game doesn't mean you can't die to him thanks to your retarded plays
>>559900842if you think that was somehow extraordinarily retarded for a mina to fight you're just bad
>>559900726also unrelated but you never know what valve is gonna abandon after the underlords and architect incidentsi think at this point its safe to assume they're all in on deadlock tho to push it out as a quality product, change this yoshi nigger or whoever is the main balance lead immediately though, this patch made me puke
>>559900993>change this yoshi nigger or whoever is the main balance lead immediately though, this patch made me pukeisn't he the literal owner of the gameand valve is a highschool clique so gaben isn't going to come in and remove him
how do you get better at parrying? i installed a sound effect mod and practiced with the dummy in the sandbox but neither help much. i can still only parry correctly maybe 15% of the time
>>559900993go back to skillshot and flash on every champ, riotranny zhang
New player here. Are these acceptable character choices?
>>559900130Ha. I like the concept of his djinn mark but really his gun also does pretty shit damage on its own. Can't really keep up like that.
>>559901078dafuq do you mean owner of the game lmao?he's lead something, no one "owns" an IP like this>>559901143isn't this literally what happened to shiv this patch u retard? point n click got turned into a skillshot, riot balance right there
>>559901092Enemy is in melee range? Keep in mind he can punch you, just listen to the heavy melee sound and parryYou're about to die and the enemy is on your ass? Throw out a parry, some throw out quick punches to secure the kill.I've gotten away because of that multiple times.
>>559901215kys low iq negroid russian
>>559901215>on every champleaguetranny can't read tooltips or use active items KEEEEEEEEEK
are we actually not getting a patch for another 2 weeks
>>559901361meds
God really want to play deadlock because I'm addicted but I know that the patch is shit since I don't like playing any of the broken heroes. Yoshi please just revert this godawful patch please please please please
Graves is a M1 hero but you guys aren't ready for this discussion
>>5599014036 months
>>559901403They said they'd be doing number adjustments regularly then they lowered Wraith's slightly and Viscous' slightly more and haven't done anything for four days.
>>559901439its the only way to play her past emissary, everyone insta melees the ghosts they are a joke, zombies mildly annoying but a proper farmed graves wtih hold m1 + movement is a menace
>>559901403if thats the case
>>559901439actually graves is a low hp squishy and slow close range damage falloff m1 with a jar of skulls that does insane damage for 2 seconds before dying with a wall that does insane damage for 1 second before they run out of it and an ult that's so so
>Ivy needs a rebalance!Said no one ever. She was perfect before the patch.
>>559895776I'm surprised the meta hasn't shifted to just every player buying curse so they can stop each other from playing the game long enough to get a kill
>>559900909>walks into the aura>gives up on proccing love bites and toxic bullets>uses her dashes late>can't decide if she wants to stay and poke or leave>returns with low health to dieyeah no, my bad we have excellent and smart plays here, all great calls
>>559901709counter items are a bit of a noobtrap, you will do no damage if you go curse on a m1, better to just get lucky shot glass cannon unironically in 90% of cases
>>559901589now her stone form can naturally combo into a hmelee with no items once it's fully upgraded hence it's a direct upgrade from old ivyi still think that the 65 cd ult change was retarded though, for the longest time ivy was forced to have 3 mediocre abilities because of the utility that the ult had and instead of nerfing it they buffed its main utility (global presence) by heavily reducing CD and increasing its duration? what the fuck was yoshi smoking with that one seriously
>>559901787>gets raped by pain battery out of nowhere with barely any investmentkeep downplaying lil bro
>>559899649Nta but you victor downplayers keep saying the aura does no damage now, so which is it?
>>559901889>t3 + reverb >barely any investment >still needs 4 of them to kill the squishiest hero in the game with 0 resistances
>>559901805>see someone over extending>curse them>silence them>silence them again>i've now held m1 on them long enough that they are dead>they can't counter me at allversus>see someone over extending>walk up to them>they mash their movement ability to get on top of me>they mash the rest of their buttons and nuke me with burst damage>m1 doesn't kill fast enough i'm already dead
>>559899690Those builds are all trash too. You'd think an autistic furry tranny would at least be good at the game
>>559896523He's balanced around the fact that shitlow Victors will just brool nonstop and never get a soul lead
>>559902017>one itemyes, barely any investmentkeep downplaying
>>559902072its a must on supports don't get me wrong but not if you're a carryit'd be the difference between melting a nigga in 3 seconds after they get ccd vs 6-7 seconds giving em way more time to do some movement bs or for their team to savejust having more dmg is underrated, its low TTK meta
>>559901889>raped by pain battery out of nowhere>out of nowhere >when she has no health and goes back for no reason at all yeah sure, out nowhere, just a smart play from mina, for sure>>559901939>aura does no damage when did i say that?
wait do the 300 extra souls from tagged calico enemies go to the team or only to her? what if its an assist?
/dlg/ WILL downplay thisjust don't take 1v1s as mina bro
>still no hotfix for Holliday broken barrel dmg with splitshotThey really don't care
>>559901352thanks man. is there a way of playing a normal bot game but one that specifically focuses primarily on parrying melees? like if i joined a bot game that had an enemy billy or abrams, would he automatically start playing like a person and melee a lot?
>>559902115>>559899448I'm just going to assume he gets his Discord kittens to both win games for him and to prop up his dogshit builds, because literally all of his builds advertise his Discord server and that they play 6 stacks in there every day!!
>>559902384It's only to her
>>559902430its a feature
New item idea. 800 souls spirit item that increases spirit scaling across all abilities by 60%
>>559902453but she also gets em on assists?
>>559902430funniest thing is that the bug just deals the same damage as a calico combo and its actually harder to hit
>>559902517Finally spirit will be able to compete with M1
>>559902430who cares, still does less damage than most of the cast now
>>559902517M1GGERS SEETHING. 1234CHADS STAY WINNING
Has anyone seen the black women of unoriginality poster? I fear this patch may have done irreversible damage to his already vulnerable psyche
>>559902517so 2024 infuser?
>>559902430Holliday isn't in literally every single game and she doesn't have a 60% winrate
>>5599026251234GODS deserve better than this piece of shit game.
>>559902209what gun carry we talkingi've been building weighted shots, silencer, and curse on warden just to deal with all the bullshit in this patch and having a better time i used to feel incredibly useless if i wasn't already ahead on a pure gun build. i need things that help me win when i'm at a disadvantage not when i'm already doing well
>ban Wraith>she's still in every game I play????????????????????????????????????????????????????????What is the point?
>>559887784Getting eternus unironically got me a job.
>>559902709(It's a passive item)
>>559900475at my rank everyone is pretty nooby. Theres always someone who carries in every team and the others feel pretty similar to me.Ive lost quite a lot. I have trouble gauging the fight to farm ratio in the game. I enjoy the hero designs a lot so I wanna switch between them and try out but getting clobbered every game sucks when ur bad. Im a bit lost on itemization though.
>>559902754almost any but im kinda playing venator these days, most honest and well designed new char of the lot imo, but then again literally any of the new chars including celeste and apollo were more fair and honorable to face than current nigresses
>>559902438Probably yeah. When I play a bot game (on easy) to test something out most characters were heavy punching me when they got close.Little tip for fighting a non bot Abrams and Billy, don't just parry willy nilly. Can't speak for billy but as Abrams, you throwing out a parry means I can heavy melee you for free for a bit until your parry comes back
>>559902430Its a fun bug and not even as strong as calico burst. Also arguably much higher skill required. Fuck calico.
So is spirit Geist viable now or what?
>>559902235Well, pain battery rapes lane wide with barely any investment. The copium from the downplayers that I've seen is that aura is just for proccing stuff and does no damage. So he as a lot of damage on aura and pain battery while also having massive range? Isn't he supposed to be a tank why is he nuking the entire lane?
>Valve dropped DEI they aren't woke anymore!!!>the most broken characters right now are ugly negress
>>559896498textbook bull flag
>>559902914Stop questioning things, the boosted Victor players will get upset
>>559902519YesIt's dumb but it doesn't give her teammates souls
>>559903032The black woman hissing as she attacks from darkness and robbing you after she kills you is not DEI, it is race realist
https://voca.ro/1f7wSGdyipguI took everything you guys said into account, I didn't want to redo the whole thing tho, ill do more research for the next character bros
>>559903247bruhshe can literally go around the map tagging people in teamfights and snagging 1k+ free extra souls every tf at least wo even killing anyonebaffling, is there any reason why every other char gets hotfixes but not this nigress?
>>559903279using this for my viral doorman tok. thx
>>559902438in the sandbox there should be a door that says GYM and inside is a bot that heavy melees you at random intervalsalso>keep an ear out for the sound cue, the parry window is actually incredibly generous so if you just press the key when you hear the sound odds are you'll get the parry>if you're going for a light melee read, make sure you have stamina to get away with if you miss the parry otherwise like >>559902880 said you open yourself up to getting heavied for free
>>559902914>Isn't he supposed to be a tankAs long as a "hitting this guy reduces your healing" item doesn't exist there aren't any real tanks only lifesteal batteries.
For me? It's IRA DOMINI GUTSHOT HEAVY MELEE M1
>>559903269I can't believe "A. Wyatt Mann" is on the deadlock team
>>559903437go ahead
the most honest character is a character that you don’t tourist because they’re meta and one that you actually feel a deep sovlful spiritual connection with when you play as them
>>559901212You gotta know when to kite and know when to chase.Kite till at least 3 stacks are up. If they run away fine you can take the farm in the area. If they stay too long you chase them down and gib them with mark.
Can you Bebop hook through a Doorman door?
goddamn, 57%? lol
>>559903956just don't walk into the aura bro and proc your toxic bullets
>>559903771until a rebal hits and everyone plays them and drastically changes how the character plays
>>559903956>complain to yoshi that victor scales too hard late game and if your team isn't coordinated enough with expensive counter items you lose>thanks for the feedback>makes victor even stronger>?????????????
>>559902914>>barely any investment>mystic reverb>BARELY ANY investmentmina just played like shit
>>559903956>All those pickrate increasesTOTALMETASLAVEDEATH
>>559903956he's not good though just buy counter items ok??better nerf silver and mirage they are too strong though
>>559904032*warp stones on top of your team*
>>559904167You know some people just want to try out the hero changes right?
>>559904118The issue isn't his late game being (He's carry), its his early/mid. For some god forsaken reason they decided to buff it hard with pain battery.
>>559904167this is the moba curse
>>559904295>>559904118If Victor gets a good lane he doesn't even need to farm and can just snowball like a m1gger now, good luck stopping him when he's 20/0 in 20 minutes
>>559903956wish all these faggots would get off mikuI suffered the nerfs, why should they get to benefit?
>>559903771yeah but then yoshi/icefrog decided that they need to get spiced up/become meta and they ruin the soul that the original character had or playing them is just miserable due to how strong other characters have become.
what's Desolator in this game?
>>559904167The game is unironically not fun if you dont pick the meta heroes. Its not like other mobas where you can win if youre good enough, hell no, you straight cannot win
>>559902914>Isn't he supposed to be a tankno? what the fuck are you talking about?
>game is just cc chains and spirit nukes>one mistake can cost you the game>not even your own mistake, but a teammates mistakewhat did yoshi mean by this
>bulldyke mcginnis is hitler againi love going backwards in timeidk yoshi, maybe the best splitpusher in the game shouldn't also have an ult that glasses any objective area for the entire time that a contest matters on a 110s cooldown
which means they have 100% wr right?
>>559903032
My favorite thing to do when a Doorman places a door behind me is to go through it and kick his ass so hard he has to ult me but I cube myself before continuing the rape session.
>>559904145All the damage she took was in a short span, that makes this character a burst hero. Why is he so tanky then? besides, you are building reverb on a tank, either the skill you are imbuing does way too much damage (it does) or the character barely needs greens to survive to begin with, either because you can just simply kill people or you are tanky by default.
Only one of the black women of valve unoriginality can be meta at a time, it seems
>>559903956Better nerf Lash some more
>>559902412All of them need to be gutted(except Calico) I'm unironically tired of Yoshi messing with her. She's my third most played every single time I see a patch note on her it's like>we gave Calico 4 damage and -.2 second cdThen her winrate skyrockets because she was NEVER bad to begin with, and now I can't FUCKING PLAY HER BECAUSE NIGGERS KEEP SPAMMING MY HEROS. I'M GONNA KILL YOSHI HE'S TURNED ME INTO A RACIST HE'S A FUCKING NIGGGGGGEEERRRRRRER
>>559904570What is he then? because right now he's doing everything.
I didn't think it would be possible to make a character with a more oppressive lane than Apollo, but somehow icefraud pulled it off. Holy fucking shit.At least Apollo didn't scale well past the lane
there is a 1000% chance that Silver hugs her tail when she sleeps
>>559904614I had to carry a game as Ivy and we lost because I died once (one (1) time) during the whole game for a singular positioning mistake.
>>559885037If I've learned anything from the recent balance patch it's that we need to buff Calico and Silver and nerf Abrams and Talon even harder.
>calico>doorman>infernusyeah I think im done this patch. >calico is calico>doorman spirit nuke build doing 2k damage in a second somehow>infernus does nothing until 30 minutes somehow and then he ricochets your entire team with afterburndidn't even have the most retarded hero wraith and it was still fucking miserable
>>559904570This poster is Netenyahu's top guy. Top 100 ranked comp Mossad baby-murderer worldwide.
>>559905054>walks towards you holding m1nothing personal kiddo
>>559905054>miss charge>miss punches>miss shots>stand in the wide open>0 mobility>don't kill graves summonsWTF NERF ALL OF THIS NOW!
>>559905054This is embarrassing gameplay
Victor buffs were meant for shitlow brooltards that want to pop off as Victor but don't want to farm for 20 minutes
>>559905054not that I don't agree with you but this is like the most fucked gameplay I've seen, you missed EVERYTHING
thoughts on this item?
>>559905331>>559905419For every honest complaint about overtuned character there are 10 shitters like this.
>>559905054I sure wish shoulder charge EVER FUCKING WORKED EVER ON ANY PIECE OF GEOMETRY IN THE ENTIRE MAPMAKE SURE TO NERF ABRAMS AND LEAVE CHARGE COMPLETELY BROKEN AND UNUSABLE. oh, and make sure to leave 1 singular parry as a guaranteed death sentence.
>balance patch
>>559905553>>559905054no&skill complaining about balance KEEEEEEEKDLG SELF EXPOSING WITH THESE CLIPS
Taken: Sep 6, 2024 @ 10:38 PM
>>559905493Good on Ven or as a Mystic Shot/Stalker alternative for spirit heroes
>>559905493It's a good first buy when I derank to alchemist from playing paradox because they don't realize that my kill potential is much lower than they think
>>559905553>1 second to react or youre deadhow is this fun or fair?
>>559905493this or battle vest? hmm tough call
>>559905331>>559905482I didn't though? She parried so I missed the first heavy melee on purpose, and she blinked out of the second one. Gun accuracy could've been better I guess but it was still 50%.Not like any of that matters when Wraith deals 75% of Abrams's HP in one magazine.
>>559905553LMFFFFFAAAAOOOOOOOOOOO yeah that's kino
>>559904798>moving the goalposts alreadyyou can just admit that that mina played like shit>on a tankfirst, victor isn't a tank and second a character being a tank doesn't mean they can't deal damage, dota is full of characters that can be tanky as fuck and still wreck your shit: sven, axe, doom, wraith king (victor's equivalent) to name a fewif you want weak sissy tanks go back to lol (unless riot buffs them again)
>play game>dieNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAIIIIIIIE YOSHI HOW COULD YOU
>>559905856retard.
>decide to wait until they fix Doorman's ult to learn how to play him>they fixed it but they also made him into yet another overtuned spirit nuker
>>559905662I kinda miss the staring match at the start, was fun to say fuck this when you saw your lane opponent
>>559905553get raped lmao
just had a woman on my team just now, no gamer boyfriend in sight, couldn't believe it, she played bebop and her hooks won us the game, and her voice was really cute
>>559904981>What is he thena carry
>>559905794why not both?
>yoshi nerfs shiv's cd reduction on ult and gives it a recast window>in the same patch decides doorman deserves cd reduction ????????????????????????????
>>559905553That's actually a sick angle to hit the cart + door combo off the bridge when you think about it, unironically deserved reward for skillful Doorman play.
>>559905856missed charge so didn't get stun off, missed the 2nd heavy melee, missed all the shotgun shots until the last 2 dealing a whopping 60 dmg. If you were compitent that wraith would have just died 100%
>>559905553Doorman is so based
>>559905553get fucked no&skill cuck
>>559906074did you ask her out?
>>559906074you should stalk her socials women love it when you do that
This game has absolutely balanced and fair matchmaking.
>>559905553get fucking owned LMAO
>>559905054>retard will look at this and go HURRRDURRRR BUT VICTOR DOE?! VICTOR TOO STRONG HUUUURR VICTORVICTORVICTOR
>>559906128Flavor of the month balancing. Brought to you by World of Warcraft and other (((fine))) video games.
>>559905553outskilled
>>559906074
>>559906301Victor needs HEAVY nerfs regardless.
>>559905952>moving the goalposts alreadyWhat goalpost? I'm not discussing how good or bad the mina played, I'm talking about victor's damage being higher than any squishy nuker. Predditor-chan, your hero requires zero effort to play.
>>559906142NTA but charge fails to stun against geometry for me all the time. I wish it worked. I know it did in like 2024 but they changed something about the geometry and never updated charge.
>>559905856>Not like any of that matters when Wraith deals 75% of Abrams's HP in one magazineI mean, if your only defensive item is a band-aid, you just walk straight back to your walker on the open without even trying to dodge anything and take all the damage from Graves' skulls without even trying to melee them, I think it's fair that they kill you
I dunno why I keep trying to play viper in this meta lmao. I'm just making myself angry & miserable.
>>559906503better spam for 700 posts like silver players
>>559906503I got multiple Vypers in my games last night that never slid once, all of them had lowest player damage at the end even lower than the supportsissies
>>559906503her and holliday are fine bro just trust in yoshi they're so balanced they don't need patches
>>559906245No I'm fat and old and poor
>>559906142The charge connected with Wraith it just didn't collide with the wall because it's the jankiest garbage ability in the game.Second heavy melee would've hit if she hadn't blinked out of it.If she had died then I wouldn't have this clip of her bullshit damage.
>>559905662>Sep 6, 2024not old enoughstill I miss getting standing in front of the enemy spamming heavy melee
>rem saying gg in chat>paradox giving up and being a retard>enemy team had a super lead>brool happening 24/7>meanwhile me farming the lanes without any inconvenience>build defensive items>no one has any counters for me>rape startsthis is why people lose to victor
Gunshit is going to kill this game.
>>559906074There's something weird afoot. I have detected multiple foids in my lobbies of late. This is a strange occurrence in a valve game. Cant say I'm pleased about the change. I wish they would all stay in Rivals where they belong. DeadCock is for gay men only.
>>559906838>all the top winrate heroes are spiritfags
>>559906494>dude, your 1.6k defensive item with your 3.5k net worth?!>that would only work against half of this hybrid damage hero's kit anyway?!>also ummm you took 1.5 volleys of Graves skullsyou are unbelievably retarded
>>559902908always was
>>559906396>I'm not discussing how good or bad the mina playedsure you aren't, just downplaying it while saying victor had BARELY investment in damage (with a t4 item that is made to deal damage)like i said go back to lol and kindly stay there
>>559906838Close but it's actually esoteric and annoying to input movement
>>559906278Get that mole off of me!
Swapping more than 2 dudes feels good
>>559906874It's the character designs that draw them in, Deadlock has higher numbers than Overwatch and Rivals on Steam right now for a reason
>>559906953I miss the daytime
>we go from silver derangement syndrome to victor derangement syndromekek
>>559907074mina...
>esoteric and annoying to input movementHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH go back to shield heal pokeslop
>>559907018whore
>>559906503>Slither from the side>Explode someone in 4 miliseconds>Slither awayI've been split pushing and engaging like this and it's been working so far unless a Doorman gets a hate boner against me.
whats in this 40mb update
>>559906730>not old enoughPost yours brother, I had to ask for an invite from oomf
>>559907136I'm 6m into my game. enemy is geist and doorman. I've had to go back to base like 4 times from the spirit nukes.
>>559907140It's the cloaca update for vyper and rem
>>559906953daytime looked so fucking ugly
>>559905085>sup>carryAll you can do is enable, someone else has to carry.
>>559907252wrong
>>559907142i never saved out of fear of getting bannedi wish i saved that lash video with ridge racer music in the background
>>559907103crazy because I rarely see Victors in Oracle/Phantom, meanwhile half of my lanes are against Doornig throwing giant bells every 5 seconds
>>559907236geist and infernus I meant. our drifter is already tilted because of our russian wraith player. the wraith player has like 6 pages of steam comments on his profile about how much of a piece of shit he is. lol.
>>559906964Best you can do is say I play lol. Man, imagine thinking you can 1v1 a late game hero in the early game. But you do you, I guess you are the type that thinks sometimes pressing your free dispel while holding w is considered skilled gameplay.
this edible aint shit
the amount of spirit damage right now is just fucking stupid dude
the amount of gun damage right now is just fucking stupid dude
>>559906953the old map was so much better
the amount of nigger damage right now is just fucking stupid dude
>>559907252>>559907423the game isn't at night, it's late afternoon during a solar eclipse.
the amount of stupid damage right is now is just fucking stupid
the amount of damaged trannies right now is just fucking stupid dude
>>559907632cringe m1gger>>559907692based 1234chad
>viscuous is overpowere-
DUUUUUUUUR YOU JUST PRESS BUTTONSHUUUUUUUR YOU JUST PRESS QBAAAAAAAWWW YOU JUST CLICK HEADS
Spiritcels will never recover from the fact that the game has always been shit while their playstyle is dominant
>>559907914this but unironically
>>559907897unc.....
>>559907936Only m1ggers are complaining about the current patch though.
>>559906942You wasted souls on monster rounds instead of rusted barrel. Graves' skulls did almost the same damage than Wraith's gun. Also, you made no effort to dodge anything. You don't need any souls to use your stamina properly.
>>559907721man this looks like shit lmao
>>559907554I should legitimately kill myself in real life. I dont even have 10k at 15 minutes from being raped in lane so hard by spirit nukers.
>>559907936so the meta has always been a revolving door all this time and yoshi has no idea how to balance the 2 playstyles in the same patch?
>>559908027https://poal.me/eur1zi>>559908152Yes
holiday barrel bug was just hotfixed
>>559908061thank you for adding your wrong opinion
>>559905054>>559905331>retards itt will shit on you for no going unga bungu on a heavy in lane 5 min into the match>cant even tell you baited out the parry
>>559908206they wont hotfix calico wraith doorman victor tho
>>559907936This but gun insteadGun patches are so bad people don't even boot up the game
>>559907721The lightning is nice but the fog sucks. Also, how was the game with 4 lanes?
>>559885004I'm Seeker I actually
Dynamo is way too soul-hungry for a hard support. All his spells are ass until T3.
>>559907252Imagine being this incorrect>>559907897Old map was ludokino, I will never change my mind. Except when I had to solo lane as Talon.
old deadlock lighting looked better aesthetically but it was clearly much worse for readability
>>559908304solo lane was fun but ganking was frequentI really never cared about getting ganked but everyone hated it, even though you still get ganked randomly on the current map.
>>559907721are you gonna show the better map or this soulless smog covered shit
>>559907131Is the person you're talking to in the thread with us right now?
>>559907580>>early game>that clip>early game
>>559907897>doesnt cancel cube to parry>twice
>>559908146it's gotten worse! our drifter is now walking down lane. I just wanted one game before work where I didn't want to kill myself. Alas.
>>559908152Sincerely yes. The pendulum has never stopped swinging back and forth since I joined in like August 2024
>>559905493>street brawl gave me no purples (again)
>>559908705its been 2 years since this game came out and singularity is still retarded
I said it before I will say it againSilver is just fucked on a fundamental level and needs a full rework. The character's kit is a schizophrenic mess and no matter what they do to balance her, she will either be complete garbage or stupidly OP, there is no inbetweenTake her back to the drawing boardInstead of making her reliant on ult she should be balanced around her two formssuggestion 1:>human form is the damage/poke form>wolf is full tanky cc brawling formsuggestion 2:>wolf/human is a stance instead of rage mode meter build up>playstyle revolves around either swapping forms on the fly to fit the situation or going hard into one form or the other (difference can be gun for human, spirit for wolf, hybrid for both, etc.
>>559908705WAGIE WAGIE GET IN CAGIE
>>559908676>10m.I guess for Victor that is considered late game in the power scale chart.But in case your inbred smoothbrain didn't get it.the phases go as such Laning>early>mid>late.
the only way to have fun in deadlock, assuming you're not an aimbot cheater smurf, is to legitimately play with at least 2-3 friends every single match no matter what
all these streamers currently playign this game with 1k+ viewers are so miserable and uninteresting, the game desperately needs someone with personality that doesn't cry every 30 seconds to pick up the mantle
>>559908890>I said it before I will say it againStopped reading right there
>>559907002If only it was that. Look at my Graves' KDA and Celeste's damage. I'm the Paige, I was top damage...
>>559908290I have rage uninstalled so many times during gun meta it probably contributed to the death of that SSD.
>>559908304bad. solo lanes were impossible to balance properly, and there was a time where soul split was actually soul duplication, and it was meta for lash to catch waves from 2 lanes. rotations were also sub 5 seconds at the highest ranks, but there were teleports everywhere as well. map was simultaneously too big and too small
>>559908945your exuberant zerggy?
>>559909047not watching a gimmic brown britbong, sorry
>>559908890why should she be able to be two characters in one?
Another Silver cope post has hit /dlg/
I love sticky bombs having no counter play they need to keep this game in a le secret club state this game releases it'll lose 90% of its players because of how much stupid shit is in this game
>>559907721pic unrelated right?>>559908304solo lane was ok unless you had a SHITTY match up (which was more common) you think losing two walkers before 20 minutes its bad now? they would fall at the at the ten minute mark because you couldn't rotate fast enough and it was a death sentencethe only thing i somewhat miss is the old rejuv only needing one hit, stealing it was fun
>>559908437They just don't make games like they used to..
>>559908912Right, I'll just add here before you latch on to it.10m laning and 10m-ish early. So by 20 they'be getting into mid game. Thing is mid game in this garbage game is shorter since farming speed spikes up exponentially.
>>559909114desu that'd still be less skills than invoker from dota 2 and we all know there will be an invoker function in this game eventually
>>559908945I don't care for streams but notselfaware makes the freshest kino anywhere on the net.
>>559909123yeah silver upplayers are getting pathetic
can someone tell me why spirit burn doorbell nuke continues to burn you in the faggot hotel
>>559909183This might help new players, but that soul number in the bottom left is actually your money! Not just your experience! You can buy items with that.
>>559908945i stream deadlock to 3 people on twitch
Wraith ult is the most broken shit I've ever seen lol>instant and unreactable>displaces you AND disables stamina/movementIt's essentially always a free kill if she catches you. Even if you Metal Skin, your ass gets blown up with cards.
>>559908912>phases go as such Laning>early>mid>late.>if i make shit up i might win the argument
>>559908945watch Mast then
>>559906708just like all the gamer girls. they have self-esteem issues too, they like losers like them because they don't think they can do better.
>>559909351why wouldnt it?
>>559909457If you don't consider laning in this game a phase of it's own it's your fundamental problem in understanding this genre.
>>559909550I dont want it to
>>559909228invoker's spells still fit in the caster archetype
>>559908945well that's because there are 3 streamers with 1k+ views and 2 of them are ruskies
>>559909351Because fuck you and fuck me and fuck this entire game. Getting hotel'ed also seems to steal the last stamina I had all but guaranteeing a fail and that he can chain ult me or someone else. It's ridiculous. Also knockdown carries over too. So he can pop slowing hex+knockdown then ult you. Psychotic.
>>559909603>if i make shit up i might win the argument
>>559908041Monster Rounds is a must buy against a heavy push lane like this. Otherwise you'll just be poked to death under tower.When you're getting melted like that you don't stop to shoot skulls, you dash for cover which is exactly what I did.
>>559908912nta but the clip is at 20 minutes I don't know if you're blind or baiting
>>559909738Guardians don't give any cover
>>559896584crippling headshot has no icd are you braindead anon?
>>559909197the bases were the worst part, the goofy fucking baby face robot, holy shit, could not take it seriouslythis game really only became playable on old gods new gods
>10 game win streak before patch>7 losses in a row since patchAnd like six of those games had a Calico on the other team. Man this patch is kinda AIDS.
>russian on our team playing wraith the most broken hero right now>spent laning phase completely afk>then started bitching about our kdswhy is it that the venn diagram of people who play DBD and people who play deadlock is a circle. Every time I've smurf checked someones profile they jsut have pages of people calling them pieces of shit in DBD.
is it worth dying for an early walker (guaranteed take down)
>>559909795Retarded zoomer
>>559909645eido is one too but hes also the most miserable of them all
>>559909890you know im right
>>559909645i dont want to sound too much like a faggot but i watch this game while working because im obsessed with it rn. all the "top" streamers (eido, vegas, surefour etc) all piss cry moan and complain and its unbareable but they play at such a high level that i'm still learning something when i watch. i guess there's just a certain mindset you get into with moba games where you just constantly complain when you reach a ceiling, nothing is ever your fault, it's the games
>>559909685>Pic relate t. you a victor downplayer
>>559909882Yes if it's just you dying for it
>>559909857I'm refusing to play until they fix the calico/ivy/wraith rape. Don't know how you can play 7 games of that in a row.
>>559909882It can be.
>>559910112you forgot mcginnis
>>559910054eido is a crutch player, when he plays heroes with no mobility he just shits himself
>>Whole enemy team is spirit nukers>Healbane>Reactive Barrier>Spirit Shielding>Spirit Resilience>Colossus>Spellbreaker>WitchmailGaming time.
>>559908619>he's still here and seethingLMAOOOO larp more unc. this game is beyond your comprehension
>>559910054why are you surprised that mentally stunted 30 year old manchildren that stream themselves playing shooters 10 hours a day are raging spergs with no redeeming qualities? you're kinda asking why the shit you're eating tastes and smells like shit...
anyone else kinda hate that the characters actually say 'good game' when you type gg? like specifically mentioning 'good game' it kinda breaks the immersion
>>559910112What's wrong with Ivy?>>559910187Feels like McGinnis ult got some kind of nerf because people don't seem to be dying to it as fast even when getting hit by all at max lvl
>>559910310no it soulful
>>559908806oh i was hopeful about this game. guess the best they can do is try to not make either style too obnoxious
>>559910310they always could say good game?
>>559903279kino
>>559908945zerggy is the only person who isn't a whiny bitch and is entertaining.too bad he only streams in the morning because he's EU.I watch wander at night too, he's not very interesting but at least he doesn't cry... most of the time...
>>559910078>Pic relate t.>already having a meltiekek nobody, NOBODY, separates early and laning into two different phases bro, give it up
>>559909791>Guardians don't give any coverThey stop both bullets AND Wraith's cards
>>559910401yeah i still hate it why do they call it a 'game' specifically eh its just something I hate im not overly pissed off or something
>>559910348had a game earlier vs a spirit mcginnis rushing max ult and rushed lightning scroll as her first big item. she would do like 2000 damage if you got caught in it for 2 seconds. which was frequently because the first upgrade slows your movement AND dash.
>>559909187>couldnt rotate fast enoughskill issue
>>559910310It's soulful but I agree.>YOU MUST COMPLETE THE RITUAL!!!!1!1!!!1!1!!>good gameLike, what do you mean good game? You just lost your wish.
>>559910221>what is diminishing returns>what is spirit shred
Big werewolf woman with a soft heart and completely useless!
>>559910578>>559910578>>559910578>>559910578
>>559905553Doormen earned it this patch for enduring the previous.
>>559905662I think I'm the Abrams if this was an inhouse.
>>559910496As a McGinnis main for a long time, there are times where it's still not enough.
>>559910310No it doesn't bother me. Also I didn't know they did that because I have not typed gg once since the change.
>>559909187>you couldn't rotate fast enoughretard-kun, there were like 17 teleports back then
>>559910803Nah, just a screenshot of my first match after getting access
>>559909047I hate this onions like you couldnt believe
>>559906874hero shooters are plagued with foids
>>559909529that's a pretty sad observations
>>559910310they also do "thanks" if you type ty
