Truce Edition>Previous>>559923825>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSJan 22 Redacted Regiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKkFeb 03 Siege Breakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9E9-iGwK_4Feb 04 A Bastion of Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6YFeb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0>LATEST PATCHESFeb 03 1.006.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/506226349467240138Feb 10 1.006.003 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541129880857741482
First for fucking your bros in the trenches
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>>559961651>he doesn't want hard helldiver shlong>cock in the dirt canal>while your turrets take care of everything topsideFloor covered in so much jizz we all getting trench foot (worth)
BF1 sucked ass so this gay WW1 cosplay warbond will also suck ass. Don't @me because I am 100% correct.
All right, let's do some talking about this shit.I know it's easy to just instantly dismiss this thing because "lol SMG" and "lol Crisper," but honestly I think this thing has potential. Not only is it a one-handed weapon that lets you carry objects while maintaining firepower or shoot behind you while running, but the same applies to the underbarrel flamethrower. If you can run away from targets while spraying them with fire, it's a damn good way to kill pursuers.Not to mention that you have access to a flamethrower without having to sink a weapon slot for the Flamethrower or Torcher, and it also frees up your secondary slot for something like a Grenade Pistol. The thing that made the One-Two great was that the underbarrel launcher meant you no longer had to rely on a Grenade Pistol to kill spawners or cargo doors, and you could still restock those grenades by grabbing ammo boxes. The underbarrel flamethrower lets you create burning ground while still having access to a bullet hose weapon. and since it's a SMG it's virtually impossible to murder its ergo without attaching every heavy weapon mod in the game.This thing is going to have pretty great utility, and I'm looking forward to using it.
loadouts for this feel
>>559962074It's going to be mid regardless but I'm just hoping it won't be shit enough to be a pain to level, that's all I ask.
It's going to be hard to say where this thing is going to land, outside of it having zero drag factor due to the gyrojet rounds. Is it just going to be a drag-less Verdict with slower rounds, or is there going to be something particular about it? Because the Warrant also has zero drag but also benefits from homing rounds and probably double the mag size, while the Talon also has zero drag but near-hitscan rounds and potentially infinite ammo if you can manage its heat. Who knows, either it's going to be something funny like explosive rounds or something absurd like AP4, I'm not going to bet either way.
>>559962074>One-Two>greatNo, the issue with these double up weapons is that AH then feel it needs to be nerved in terms of damage capability and ammo relative to other options. The One Two was weak and you were better off just taking a punchier gun, this will likely be the same. Watch them put light ap on the actual smg component of it and give a pitiful amount of flame ammo, rendering it essentially useless.
>>559962419I mean that trooper got turned into mist...trvst
>>559962074The flamer will have next to no ammo and will be enough to kill one medium enemy only.
Honestly, not much to say about this one, except that you can dig holes without having to find a shovel on the map. It being a secondary melee already puts it roughly on par with other secondary melees. So really, it comes down to how creative players can get with hole digging to make this thing useful. At the least, trench digging is going to be very time-consuming so I imagine this will only be useful on bricks and maybe flag and mineral missions.
who are you again and why should i care
This thing is going to be the best item in the warbond no matter what, that goes without saying. People only tolerate the EMS Mortar because it's non-lethal and it highlights where enemies are with those bright blue flashes so you can go and finish them off and give the mortar something else to shoot at. This one provides actually useful crowd control, the only problem will be if it'll fire three rounds at the same target and wastes that shit like the other mortars. I just hope they don't handicap it with an absurdly long cooldown.
>>559962074>>559962515The real problem is that using underbarrels is clunky as fuck as we've already seen with the one twoAH really needs to do basic quality of life stuff and give us a firing mode hotkeyOne-Two is probably my favorite AR in the game but i almost never used the underbarrel GL outside of closing bug holes and squid fabs (it just straight up does not work on bot vents i stg)
>>559962915It steps on the EMS mortar's toes alotlike this is a straight upgradei would've preferred a smoke or fire mortar, bc this make mortar maxxing a little redundantKino warbond but there's not alot unique about itI get why some anons consider it a drip bond on par with MoC (ignore the fact that pyrotech nades are like a top 3 nade in the game) ((also ignore the amendment which is one of the sickest marksman rifles))
From what we can tell, this thing is going to be AP5 explosive, and the blog post indicates it's going to have a pretty bad throwing range. But unless you only get three per spawn, it stands a good chance of displacing the Thermite. Though frankly, the Thermite being able to stick to a heavy still makes it useful in case you're fighting a high-mobility heavy like a Charger or Fleshmob that might escape the blast radius. I'm too married to Dynamite to give this more than a token honest try, but I don't expect it to have more than 30 demo force.
>they put the le epic chud German armor and haha war crime shotgun in the SC storeThey know their audiences well.
And the one that everyone's most excited about. I would have been too, had I not witnessed how AH butchered the BFGL. Still, not having to reload, and having more range, even if its damage output is along the same lines as the existing Flamethrower it's going to be an improvement. The whole reason why the Flamethrower and Torcher are ass is because they have zero range on top of zero crowd control, so you end up putting yourself directly in harm's way for only mediocre damage output. The Cremator having range cancels out its need to have crowd control, as long as you can set enemies on fire from range you can kill them before they get close enough to require crowd control. Though I'm secretly hoping that its burning ground will be Napalm tier since it's a double-tank liquid propelled flamethrower, at the least it's going to benefit from the fire damage buff that support weapons (now two) enjoy.
>>559963715>butchered the BFGLThe BFGL is good though.
>>559956150>>559957251I don't understand why anyone would want so many weapons to remain irrelevant and relegated to only being picked by contrarians. Why would you not want them to get the small buffs they need to make them feel good instead of just "viable" (and still never picked)? [/spoiler] note to nerfniggers: this does NOT mean giving them heavy pen or infinite damage [/spoiler]
>>559963258>ignore the fact that pyrotech nades are like a top 3 nade in the gameAre they? What do they do better than the rest?
>>559963815>[/spoiler]i accept my own concession
>>559963783>less than half the GL's damage per round>less total damage>less than half the explosion volume
>>559963815Anon I wouldn't bother with that Anon, he had the reading compt of a gold fish.
>>559963667>german
>>559963815Just because a weapon isn't op doesn't mean that it's irrelevant. Every single weapon in that pic is fun and viable, only a shitter would disagree. Also, learn to spoiler you stupid buff jeet.
>>559963905Regular GL shouldn't have heavy pen. >less total damage>including the supply pack by default in your argument KEK! You're one of those shitters that takes the supply pack on every single mission, huh?
>>559963815knight has a sub 1% pick rate but everyone who isn't a complete retard knows it's an absolute chainsawthe site's worthless with its tiny ass pool and shouldn't be used as a reference
>>559964173BFGL: 150 x 100 = 15,000 damageGL: 400 x 40 = 16,000 damage
>>559963891iirc the pyrotechs sparks are Anti-Tank
>>559964173There are honestly too many itt who are unhealthily obsessed with supply pack
>>559964262Oh wow! a whole thousand points of damage! The main problem is that the regular GL is too good and shouldn't have heavy pen while the backpack version should keep it.
>>559964308>There are honestly too many itt who are unhealthily obsessed with the single biggest crutch in the game and the BIS backpack since day 1I wonder why.
>>559964308It's almost like it's unreasonable how good that single backpack is and how hard it trivializes the game even further (plus helping dogshit ammo weapons out but thats neither here nor there)
>>559964308I'm going to keep having 40 stims used at the end of every mission as well as infinite ammo and no one will ever stop me.
LOBBY DOKO!I have a strict NAT type so i can't host :/
>>559964308It's the ultimate tool of shitters. It needs to be heavily nerfed or removed.
>>559961846Stfu Truth Enforcers faggot, go post another face the wall meme
>>559964369>dilating this hard over a pve game
>>559936182Someone, not me, fucked a bug on deploymentAnd now she's here as democracy's perfect soldier.
>>559964658you misunderstoodhttps://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/11371ant mod
>>559964034are you actually retarded? i specifically stated that they don't need to be made overpowered. Nobody uses these weapons and it's not for no reason. >relegated to only being picked by contrarians>Why would you not want them to get the small buffs they need to make them feel good instead of just "viable" (and still never picked)you are doing the equivalent of woke retards defending dogshit games by continuously saying WELL IM HAVING A BLAST as the game implodes and shuts down after a month>WELL THEY'RE VIABLE AND FUN THATS WHY NOBODY EVER PICKS THEM>>559964207knight's skewed because it's super citizen edition only, i don't think it's a bad gun.>waah waah muh pool sizebut if i post the trident or coyote's pick rate in any other discussion you will instantly agree with the data and scream for them to be nerfed
>>559964369>>559964465>>559964483>BIS backpack since day 1Not any longer, update your opinions.
>>559964641no one is allowed to killmog me or I'll lose izzat
>>559964658>>559964702I'm retardedMeant for >>559938530Ant is cute too
>>5599638916 structure blowing nades alone makes it top tierbut they also function like a pocket eagle napesure you lose some AT utility compared to shit like thermites but it's a far better all 'rounder nadeI have to force myself not to take them ever since MoC came outAlso they look pretty when you spam them in the air for the extract cam :)
>>559964765Which one is it then?
kys furfag
>>559964729the very fact that the diligence of all guns is that low disproves any point you could possibly have.
>>559964765no one said that tardo
>>559964931I did, because it's true>>559964765there's a massive gap between the supply pack and the second best that is the warp pack>guard dogslmao>hellbomblmaoooo
>>559964930>this one example i found is an outlier and now i will ignore everything else listedjust fuck off back to the 'cord
>>559964563Just remove the ability to self use it. Maybe make it like a team reload where a teammate can feed you ammo by pressing E instead of just being able to hard all 4 packs to yourself.
>>559964910>still sperging about furfags in the big 26NGMI BrahShiggy Diggy
>>559964931
>>559964840There is no BIS backpack any more, just a bunch of strong options. Jet pack is great for speed on blitzes, warp pack solid all rounder, even the dogs let you focus on objectives while they handle trash clear and the gas/flame is better than the old gun/laser (great on bugs/squids).
>>559965106Unhide my post. Now.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242354261722/76561198026977961Bugs 10, I'm gonna bring the torcher and have a lot of fun
>https://litter.catbox.moe/nvl1bi.mp4okay, what the actual fuck.>invisible units?>swigger coding?what killed me here?public lobby, no shenanigansinb4 why didn't you stim: I wanted to see what killed me, forgot it doesn't fucking tell you now
>>559962515>Watch them put light ap on the actual smg componentwhy the fuck would it be medium pen?
i'm gonna sound like a newfag but i don't get goonmods for helldivers, do you really need eye candy while shooting bots or bugs?
>>559965124Amazing how none of what you just said matters when I have 8 free stims, at least 8 grenades and sometimes 12, as well as practically infinite ammo (including 4 extra ultimatum bombs if you take it) on my back ready to go at all times, which I can also give away to teammates if they need it. Compared to being more mobile or having some fire support. You're full of shit, man. The supply pack is the best backpack in the game by far and always has been.
>>559965318have you noticed random enemy sounds when nothing is actually around? I'm fairly sure that enemies are spawning below the ground now and they're just barely able to swipe your feet
>>559965318
>>559964173>>including the supply pack by default in your argumentretard can't do basic fucking math and thinks that the GL needs a supply pack to out-damage the BFGL
>>559965318ive noticed alot of squid enemies sometime are underground/inside buildings and hit u, happens on bugs too, not so much on bots. it can be quite easy to spot cus if u run away and it stops its usually a sign
>>559965085They've never been welcomed here. Never will be.
>>559965325Exactly why I said they'll make it light pen. Ofc in current scale creep light pen is trash though, so it will be an instant garbage gun.
>>559965318desync
>>559965170
>>559965527>light pen is trash though, so it will be an instant garbage gun.I'm getting real tired of these "shitter outs himself" episodes
>>559965464https://youtu.be/fq3abPnEEGE?si=aOkju7Vw6snPZZ90
>>559965430>needno, but i don't mind it every now and then
>>559965436>t. man who has only watched Boss BabyYou don't need all that shit when you can just warp/jump straight through or around engagements. Why do I need the ammo and stims to fight something that I can just completely avoid?
>>559965430I just like seeing the female form and I think having the default female body be so similar to the male body is a shitty cop out.
>>559965648Okay I'll bite, what light pen gun is so good it mogs the mountain of med pen we have in 2026 HD2?
>>559964308Needs to be divided into an ammo pack and a stim pack so now you choose between more dakka or god mode.
>>559965730Some people enjoy shooting things in their shooter game. I'm not even saying the other backpacks are bad, they're just not as stupidly good as the supply pack
>>559965828trident
>>559965318invisible desynced voteless, has only ever happened to me on squids
>>559965828>what light pen gun is so good it mogs the mountain of med pen we have>the "If it's not the best then it's garbage" argumentalso seen this one a million fucking timesand what >>559965992 said, trident. scythe also fucks harder than many medium pen guns on bots
>>559965318It's either desync or a fleshmob clipping bellow the ground.Probably desync they don't tend to go underground unless there's stairs or cliffs nearby which there are none in your case.
So they're really re-adding the shovel to the warbond as a secondary huh?
Only brown people install this
>>559965828Do you even aim for weak points or are you fire and forget?
>>559964308Even if you remove the supply pack I'd rather just bring the regular GL because I can literally bring any other backpack and it'll be better than just the BFGL.What the fuck were the Swedes thinking??
>>559965231failed
>>559966121This whole warbond is lazy as fuck it's just recolors or reworks of shit already in the game. I can't imagine it took more than an afternoon after lunch break to get the mortar sentry to fire gas rounds or duct tape an SMG and the small flamer together.It's all shit already in-game and they even skipped the booster.
>>559966121Man there really hasn't been a good cape since MoC they're all busy as fuck designs with 0 soulexcept the christmas cape that was alright
>>559966121deep down I sort of want them to add the secondary shovel while keeping the support shovel as isjust for the dumb joke of being able to dual wield shovels
>>559966147Yes, but are you ready to call AH's terrible sights (or lack thereof in the case of the leveller) out for the thoughtless jeet slop it is?
The Raped
>>559966292What was the christmas cape? I don't remember a christmas cape
>>559966121>Dignity Of ToilJEETCAPE JEETCAPE
>>559966378Anon...I...
>>559966383i prefer calling it the field nigger cape
>>559966279I mean so many of the Warbond boosters are so comically bad or straight up griefing that it's not much wonder. But we're also at that point that the game would have to invent entirely new mechanics they still haven't developed, if they ever will, to start doing new ideas that are significant and worth it. What, you want arc non-stun rifles and gas shotguns or something?
>>559966378If you weren't playing from the 18th of december to the like 28th iirc you missed the FOMO cape
>>559966378
>Sven is back for his nightly ass bleeding session about basic military function
>>559965885They are thoughbeit, you just have the Boss Baby glasses firmly stuck to your face.>>559966228Yeah this is valid, the one thing I am definitely not defending is the bfgl. Backpack support weapons need to be really damn good to validate them.
>>559966535>>559966548Oh ok I have it. I don't remember getting it tho.
>>559966383>cape is just an incongruous pattern with a silhouette of the helmet slapped onhow many times are they going to do this? stealth warbond had some decent capes, why do they keep falling back on this awful design trope?
>>559966619They're really not. No one agrees with you.
>>559966059>lasersTrue, got me there. The smg is not a laser though and will likely have shit ammo capacity to boot so why would I take it over torcher/crisper or any of the better med pen automatics? It doesn't have to be "best" it just has to do something more interesting than what already exists
So its obvious Arrowhead is running out of ideas. How long until they abandon their "realistic" weapon design and start leaning more into proper sci-fi?
>>559966228The thing is the GL is so much better than the BFGL I think I'd rather take it even if it meant NOT having a backpack at all. Much better burst DPS, and even higher overall damage not even factoring the bigger AoE.
>>559962994you can now bind the wheel to a hotkey
>>559966728This general's unhealthy obsession does not mean "no one" agrees. People talk positively about warp and jet packs all the time on here, and in game I see a lot of use out of the gas/flame dogs as well.
I miss Pilestedt, he was based....
>>559966889My favorite was when he had a breakdown on twatter when the sony fiasco was going on
Anyone sc farming in this bitch? Need my funbux to get a shovel.
>>559966886We're not talking about whether people use them or like them or whether they're good or bad. We've already agreed they're all good. The supply pack is simply the best one.
>>559966939lmao yeah, nigga was literally emo-posting and making poems
>>559966939Was he throwing cans of surstromming into the walls and windows?
>>559966889the image that caused a million nerf tranny suicides
d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242355547391/76561198066017633
AIIIIEE CHINKDIVERS SAVE US FROM THIS M.O
>>559966889miss? hes still around
it's honestly hilarious how badly the wasp trivializes overseers
>Makes a big deal about losing>We lose>All that happens is they throw out 2 unwinnable defensesDid they seriously expect us to win despite their endless meddling and just didnt plan ahead? Are they really this delusional?
What is to be done about the Arrowhead problem?
>>559967262All it takes is 1 building to cuck you. Purifier or any explosive gun rapes them and frees up your stratagem slots
>>5599671684/4
>>559967352yeah i like it for longer ranges or high ground, somehow the skinny-ass lampposts manage to cuck me more than any building ever could
>>559967315Jesus christ man spoiler that shit I don't wanna see it's disgusting face
>>559967026Under your criteria, because you've only ever played with supply pack
during summer they probably just tan
>>559967532LOOK AT HER, HELLDIVER. LOOK AT HER.
I've mostly been on break since Cyberstan but I guess that's another failed MO at this rate.
>>559965170lol
>>559967617the dss remains to be largely a disappointment
>>559967556>does he know?
>>559967545You're just making shit up now. It's nice to teleport. It's nice to be able to jump away from the dozen berserkers about to chainsaw you in half. It's nice to bring the ballistic guard dog and have it kill every single chaff unit that gets near you and end the match with 700 kills. But it doesn't give you god mode with 4x the stims as everyone else, with infinite ammo and enough grenades to blow up a mega fortress by yourself. Just admit it man. Nothing in this game is balanced, least of all the supply pack.
So the Veto will most likely have the 0% drag factor like the jar 5, with that in mind how do you think it will be?
>>559967617Bugchasers threw the MO because Joel told them to. But remember, bugchasers arnt MOcucks.
>>559967839>ballistic guard dogYou haven't been reading a single word I've been saying, or if you have you're certainly not trying to take it in. Go back to watching Boss Baby for the 100th time
>>559966121How come the Coyote gets incendiary rounds but this SMG gets an under barrel flamethrower?
>>559966789What really shocked me when I first tried it out was how pitiful of an ammo capacity it had on top of everything else just being noticeably worse than the regular GL.In an attempt to make the gun "balanced" they just made it an unfun piece of shit, and this game is full of weapons like this where it sounds good but plays like shit and is just fucking annoying to shoot.
>>559968105great argument champ, you really convinced me that the brap dog and the warp pack are better than the supply pack with that one
>>559968330I tried to explain but you are a stubborn cunt and not even reading what I've typed so
>>559968330Anytime, babe.
>>559968153Honestly I think all it needs to stand on it's own is like 50% more ammo, maybe double it. The point of guns like that is it's fun to just non stop shoot it, so they should lean into that. Hell, I'd even trade a slight damage drop or armor pen drop for that.
the supply pack is objectively better and really just overpowered and the best backpack in the entire game but I use shield pack instead anyway because I like roleplaying as master halo from halo
>>559968450like what? that you get good use out of them in-game? that people talk positively about them here? That you can just run away from enemies when you have the warp/jump pack and you don't need extra stims or ammo because of that? These are not real arguments. You're just saying that the other backpacks do what they're supposed to, not that they're the best in slot backpack. And you have a bizarre obsession with boss baby for some reason
