who should i play if i'm kind of stupid

>>560015879
You'd think so but they're insanely rare in practice. I haven't tried fucking around with the proto-keys you can buy though, maybe they're a path to actually doing it.

fix the game easily in one easy step
>increase the ttk
whoa hold on anons, before we shit ourselves

>increase the ttk by buffing shields. half damage to shields be the norm and not a random affix
you might be thinking well no blah blah my engagements
but hold on anons, this means you can take full advantage of volt guns breaking shields more easily. this takes advantage of the weapon swap system(cant believe i have to say this like im a game journalist) and you can melt the shield, swap to an actual gun, and proceed to kill them!
>make shields recharge
im not askin for quick overshield recharges but there needs to be a bit of a strawberry jam filled screen thing going on here only with shields.

i can keep going further but im going to wait for anons

>>560016079
Vandal if you enjoy being stupid
Recon if you don't
Assassin if you want to pretend you aren't stupid

>Hubless...
>But a Streamer could win a Cool Jacket!

fuck my nigger life

>>560016234
>make volt guns mandatory
gay

there’s only one way to shave Marathon

remove PVE and make a pure PVP mode

there, problem solved

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>>560016079
Destroyer.
>you are dumb and run directly into enemy gunfire
>panic shield up
>back away to cover
>sprint away at double speed nobody can catch up to you
>you're being overwhelmed by bots
>pop ult and melt them with extra damage
>can't make jumps
>just boost to them instead
I love destroyer he fun.

>>560016328
>make volt guns used more
now you're talkin anon!

>>560015795
>/vg/ Discord
again you fucking tranny?
cease this bullshit

PvE.

I guess with Tarkov continously shooting itself in the foot it'll make some of those fags hop on over once they hear it's semi-hardcore like in the 2019 days.

Hub.

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Seething

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Become...as....*coughs blood*

>>560016654
holy fuckin kek

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>Gingerbread Man: Bungie
>Lord Farquaad: Economic Terrorist unemployed Incels

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this guy is a cocksucker
this is why casuals dont want to play the game

>>560016079
traige
literally just give your team drones and you are guaranteed to contribute even if you suck at everything else

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>>560017210
The game isn't meant for casuals but he's a faggot for believing he isn't one himself.

>>560017210
wow, just casually airing his humiliation fetish for everyone to see, Destiny players are really something

the tutorial should have bot team mates that move to the objective and the game pesters you the entire time to stay with the team and not go off on your own tangent. the people in matchmaking really need to know this

I've decided I really like this game and will be sad if Sony guts it

>>560017801
not being able to use it reactive just kinda fucks it up. and then you use it and not even deplete it all the way, it gets put on a fuckin cooldown again.
can we just do one or the other? reactive but have a cooldown, or not reactive, no fuckin cooldown

>>560016382
>need to know when it's appropriate to use your aggression and when it'll get you killed
>awkward and niche q
Honestly he feels like one of the harder shells and I think it's a mistake that he's the default. Most of the people I see on him that aren't obviously brand new are some of the best players I see

>>560015998
when and why did redditors come up with this page rule? I know its been around a long time but what the fuck does it stem from

>>560018268
probably some shit carried down from the early days when people were tryin to ballsuck moot by backseat jannying to save server space or some shit

>>560018268
Its exist because if a General is too fast, it pushes out the slower general threads out.

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I need to explode a container for a contract but the grenades are out of stock at the armory.
What's the point of having this limitation?

still no firing range in sight

https://x.com/TauCetiGG/status/2031785450135023994?s=20

Wondering if this means we are actually gonna fight more Pfhor.

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>>560017836
same

>>560018472
maybe destroyer missiles or vandals q?

>>560018268
>redditors
>basic politeness about not flooding a site
Couldn't be further from the truth.
It's just pointless and unnecessary. All you wind up doing is making more threads for the sake of it.
>>560018319
/vg/ wasn't even a thing until 2011

>>560018547
Why would it mean that?

>>560018268
>Shill learning how 4ch works after his first Draft to a meme war.

>>560018868
The setup of the colonies, showing how they were supposed to look and then panning out to the Project Marathon while also glitching out at the end just kinda gives that vibe to me, but idk, just hopeful that maybe it means we'll fight bobs or more pfhor besides the s'pht

>>560019081
I mean I guess. Doesn't seem too different from the rest of the weird dichotomy between the original colony and the one that we're looting. The cutscene is mostly about the Marathon itself, which makes sense when they're about to release the first map on it.

That said if the game lives I'm sure we'll get Pfhor *eventually*, I just don't see it here.

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Why is this gun so FUCKING dogshit I do not get it

What's the best way to farm credits specifically? They're bottlenecking me harder than materials

>>560020575
sell everything
you were going to lose it anyway

>>560020623
My attachments and cores are worth about 70 credits each, even if I sold all of them that's basically nothing

>>560017303
pretty much on par with arc as well, aside from the single large boss per map like a leaper or bastion but then again priority enemies are kind of just that

what other pve does there need to be? more enemy types? i could agree to that but thats a far cry from "theres no pve right now"

A Miku collab will save the busyness!

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>Unload an entire clip into someone
>They live
>they then shoot me a single time
>I go down
I'm tired boss

>>560017210
tired of seeing this homo on my feed, what purpose does being an "alternative to ragebait" serve when that just amounts tepidly oscillating between:

>erm guys, this games pretty good!
>erm guys, it might be over!

>>560020836
sell the guns and everything except for what you like
if its not blue its vendor trash

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So, which game award will marathon win?

>>560021250
Best UI award

not far in MIDA but i hope they have more quests based around trolling and disruption

there needs to be sirens on maps you can activate to fuck up people's ability to hear footsteps
or how about a series of things you need to activate that results in calling down a bunch of toxic plants
or quests/rewards for planting claymores everywhere

windows were a good start because that does mess with a bit of gameplay in relation to the map, but id hate to see mida quests amount to "big explosion somewhere on the map that doesnt effect others"

>>560020575
just spam rook runs and look for valuables
most people ignore them and a stack of greens is worth a decent amount
certain guns sell for a lot too bullies are common and go for 400
solo thief runs are another good option but i prefer rook bc he starts with a backpack
>>560021180
>if its not blue its vendor trash
this isn't how guns work rarity is just based off attachments
a grey longshot is better than a purple hardline

>>560021776
yeah rooks honestly the best for the arc raiders solo experience.
its just a fucking SHAME he cant do contracts

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>First few days of release were so fucking fun and fights felt evenly matched
>Now its just the turbo sweats and just get steam rolled constantly

>>560020575
Sell your shit instead of horde it, do missions, but also just actually take valuables instead of only salvage/usable items. They add up. Even if they're only ~200 a square, that's a thousand with only 5 squares.

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We will not let this happen to Vandal Marathon

>>560021776
i know how the guns work. i was meaning any green attachement, core, etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marathon/comments/1rqndpt/i_have_never_seen_this_amount_of_entitled/

These are the retards you're filling with.

>>560022421
yea it will be a slutty Thief

what are your priorities ATM?
I'm currently trying to complete priority contracts, a bit tough solo at times but in general I haven't been looking for good loot that much.

No skill based matchmaking still?

>>560022619
Not even gear-value one.

>>560020219
You can shoot much faster than that

>>560022619
Literally nobody knows

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...the console war... its over?

>>560018268
it's been a rule since always to make a new general when old one reaches last page.

>>560022916
Let her alone, she is still learning.

>>560018268
>>560018441
this, its generally polite to wait until a thread reaches page 10 and then make a new thread, just because your game is fast and some other general is slow doesn't mean it should die because you need 3 dead marathon generals floating around to page 10
>POLITE???, B-B-BUT WERE ON 4CHAN
you're the type of schizo everyone hates

>>560022619
I have some suspicion there's a skill based mm.
>one day run around wiping lobbies left and right
>playing against kids who can't hit me
>next day everyone has aimbot and I die in 0.1 second and die 10 times in a row
>next next day it seems more balanced with some players being good and some being worse

>>560022916
where is this rule stated

>>560022870
it is, but not for the reasons people think it is
hint: exclusivity is like 2% of why people buy and play Xbox/PS now. It has more to do with Xbox just tripping over itself in its marketing approach

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>>560015795
It's time for the truth, runners.
https://poal.me/rozyt1
https://poal.me/rozyt1
https://poal.me/rozyt1

>>560022916
>it's been a rule
lol this isn't your discord
You are not in charge. Nobody is making you switch threads. Chill out.

>>560023534
this

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The devs have spoken.
You guys are being childish.
It's funny that you think obsessing over population nimbers is indicative of... well, anything.
Grow up and discuss things that matter. Like gameplay, builds, loot, etc.
It's time to cut out the nonsense, so cut it out.
Now.

>>560021619
I love this type MIDA posting.

>>560023736
*rapes ur thiefthroat*

>>560023736
the absolute state

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seven hours into the game later

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>>560023736

>>560023736
>"the devs"
>look inside
>it's actually the devs of other unrelated games

okay?

>>560023736
at face value I actually agree with the sentiment, but like, it's extremely telling that they're legit this triggered over speech they don't like that they're actively trying to stop it from happening.

>>560023736
This is like when Warner Brothers sent Metallica to say "Piracy is bad, very very bad mkay?"

>>560023736
Reb actually shat on the game too by calling it not AAA and overbudget they just took her words out of context as journalists do.

>>560022916
its funny how this general reflects the game
>FUCK YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>THERE ISNT A RULE TO STOP ME
>JUST DONT USE THE NEW THREAD
>IN FACT UNINSTALL THE WEBSITE
meanwhile in other generals
>"hey we usually wait until page 10 to make a new thread"
>"oh ok my bad"

>>560024061
This but also "maidenless behavior" in a headline in fucking 2026 is the most cringe shit I've read in a while

>>560023736
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>560024219
At least is good to see Marathon is bringing new people to 4chan

>>560023423
same place as the rule to take your shopping cart back

>>560024219
It's funny that you think any of this is unique to /mg/
Far from it

>>560023534
so true sister you owned those discord trannies!
>creates new at page 5 to slip a groomer discord into the OP

>>560024447
xhe's just mad that he has no power here

>>560024219
That's because this thread is full of literal shitposters that are only here because they heard of the new epic concord 3 and/or are destiny subhumans mad that their game is ending after a billion years

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>>560023736
>Warframe

d-dont call me Incel, Mommy...

>>560024509
>>560022916
>>560024219
>>560024581
I will now make the next thread as soon as possible
Blame yourselves for making it such an obvious and easy way to farm (YOU)s

>>560024438
Oh so you just made it up, got it.

>>560024675
Based

when are they adding the megamilk implants to vandal and thief?

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You will NOT get me to sell these useful items game I REFUSE

>>560024675
N-NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU. CAN'T. FUCKING. DO. THAT!
THERE ARE... TH-THERES RULES!
HAVEN'T YOU HEARD ABOUT THE RULES!
LISTEN TO MEEEEEESS

>>560024675
try not to kill yourself before bump limit fag

>>560024675
>I will now make the next thread as soon as possible
so... Now?

>>560024675
ok?
that just means you probably aren't white

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>>560024675
do it
They only have themselves to blame for sperging out over something so meaningless
fucking newfags I swear. They get triggered so easily over nothing.

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>>560024219
Reality is this little back and forth regarding the page thing happens in a lot of generals, it's always been a point of contention because it has no real authority beyond some anons just preferring it that way.

>>560024675
>heh, I'm gonna act like a mildly annoying subhuman ON PURPOSE, that'll show them
for the record being too obnoxious about making threads too early is literally the only thing that the jannies will get you for on this board

>>560024661
god these women look like fucking garbage

>>560024675
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>560023736
Warframe's one redeeming quality was when someone managed to trick the head of development into saying nigger on stream.
Overwatch doesn't have any redeeming qualities aside from the porn which hasn't actually been good for a few years now.
Warframe devs are defending for political kudos because they perceive the hate as coming from "the right™" and Overwatch devs are projecting because their game has a worse reputation than both Marathon AND Highguard.

>>560024912
who said anything about early lol?
When the thread hits bump limit we will make a new one. That's all.
>N-NO YOU HAVE TO WAIT LONGER BECAUSE... UH... BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO OK?!
didn't ask, BITCH

>>560024917
>god these women look like fucking garbage
Isnt that great? Very Sloppy aunties

>>560025028
based

>>560024764
you have lost your mind anon, time to send you to the retired shells home

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what the fuck is the point of this?

>>560025028
lmao
>>560024219

>>560025028
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU GAVE TO LISTEN TO MY ARBITRARY RULE!
OBEY THE RUUUULES!

>>560025028
you've done him

>>560025064
you've been done

>>560024912
no they dont retard

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I'm a simple anon, we hit the bump limit (750 replies), I make a new thread, simple as. Also for a game that basically requires you to be in a trio to enjoy it there was obviously going to be some way for anons to connect because just randomly posting your username in the thread and hoping someone happens to be around isn't going to result in much.

>>560025053
It's already obnoxious when I don't have mods for a certain weapon. There's too many FUCKING mods you need in this game and unlike tarkov you can't save space by putting them on a gun. A case for all your mods is the one storage QOL I really think this needs, even if it was just one of each slot.

>>560025193
>I'm a simple anon, we hit the bump limit (750 replies), I make a new thread, simple as
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS CONCEPT VIOLATES THE SACRED RULE I MADE UP!

>>560025058
Maybe it's relevant on the Marathon ship? I actually don't know of what use anti-virus has (if any) outside the lockdown zones.

>>560025193
>I'm a simple anon, we hit the bump limit (750 replies), I make a new thread, simple as
But anon!
Think of THE RULE!

>Rulesfag getting absolutely btfo by the entire thread
ya love to see it

>>560025193
make her tits bounce like that in game and my soul is your bungio

>>560025346
it happens to them in literally every fucking general I don't get why they even keep trying

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>tell anyone anywhere that i'm enjoying marathon
>any attempt convo instantly permanently derailed by screenshot of player count
I really hate gamers, man

>>560025414
how do they post screenshots mid conversation? like, just talk nigga.

>>560025193
please show cock I am begging

>>560025512
they shout in ascii at him

>>560025387
>it happens to them in literally every fucking general I don't get why they even keep trying
It's two things.
Them getting annoyed in the first place could be anything. Maybe it's autism, who knows.
But that's not really an issue. The bigger mistake they make is letting everyone know it bothers them. Like, what the fuck do you expect is going to happen? How fucking new to 4chan do you have to be to know not to bite the bait?
It's just sad man, but whatever

>>560025512
lmao

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>>560020219
Why can't you click faster?

>>560023736
holy fucking shit lol
I wonder how much money Sony is paying journos to write slop like this
>P-PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP HOW PEOPLE ARE ABANDONING OUR GAME!
the absolute state of these people

>>560025228
Valid complaint but given the meager stash they give us even with upgrades, you really need to just choose and sell most of it, I also am used to just throw grips and sights onto other weapons I have lying around in my Tarkov stash, but here I just keep 4 big weapons tops in my stash at all times and sell almost everything else, gotta get used to it i guess.

>>560025827
Games journos are in the positions they are because they write shit like this. The companies don't need to go and ask them to do it, they set the system up to platform the kind of pathetic subhumans who will write that shit of their own volition.

>>560024661
... more like whoreframe.
>community manager
Says all that needs to be said about the game too. Hot trash.

>>560020575
my local llm told me this. idk if its right. qwen3.5:9b with searx websearch

In Marathon (the 2026 Bungie shooter), the most efficient way to earn credits focuses on safe extraction, smart loot management, and optimized loadouts. Here are the top strategies:
Use the Rook Shell: This is widely considered the best shell for farming credits. It provides a free loadout upon dropping in, minimizing upfront costs for any map. Start with a modest, budget-friendly setup rather than expensive options.

Survival Over Greed: Extraction matters more than kills or extra loot. If your inventory is full of high-value items (especially Red/Blue rarity), extract immediately. Dying wastes all loot; safe exits guarantee credit gains.

Target Guarded Exfil Bosses: Some maps spawn bosses at guarded extraction points. Defeating them drops rare loot that sells for a high return after extraction—worth the added risk once you’re experienced.

Sell High-Rarity Loot First: Focus on selling uncommon, rare, or legendary items. Use an inventory comparison system to prioritize what to sell before extraction to maximize profit per run.

Complete Faction Priority Contracts Early: These unlock faction-specific kits and upgrades that improve long-term efficiency. They also help build credits steadily without excessive risk.

Learn Map Routes: Know where safe exfiltration points are and where high-value loot spawns. This minimizes time spent in dangerous areas and maximizes successful runs.

Adapt to Inventory Value: If your gear is valuable, start thinking about extraction sooner rather than seeking extra loot. A small, successful run is more profitable than a risky one that ends in death.

>>560025956
fair enough

>>560024917
You should've seen their almost-nudes. They had one of those in their general just yesterday.
Like i said - whoreframe.

>>560025635
>3 headshots and 2 body shots to down green shield
You just proved him right.

>>560026070
>Don't die
>Sell items

holy shit ai is so fucking smart

>>560026070
>Target Guarded Exfil Bosses:
retarded robot

>>560020575
purple valuables are like 4k
anomaly is 2k for entire team

more clips i see of content creators showing them killin 3 people easily the more my cortisol levels rising and realize i might have outgrew competitive videogames

>>560025058
Wraith commander can fuck your screen up, so can green laser beams. Some commander's attacks can do that shit. Some augs/kits can afflict bullshit on you. Those effects are not prevalent, but they do fuck your HUD up badly when they hit you.

>>560026362
Do purple valuables spawn in specific locations or do you have to get lucky?

>lol skill issue, gitgud, dont like it? go play arc babies bro
>why would bungie shut down our servers ? we still had 4k concurrent players...

>>560026425
>cortisol levels rising

little bro you're like 17 you haven't outgrown shit lmao

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>>560024661

>>560026425
anyone mentioning cortisol levels is too young to be using this site

Can't wait for the game to reach sub 10k so the /v/ermin and discord troons leave because they dare not follow to the comfy graveyard that is /vm/. Earlybaking doesn't bother me, /twg/ once spent months having thread wars with half a dozen anons baking at 750 just to own eachother and /wowg/ is routinely unusable due to schizo nonsense.
>>560025619
>How fucking new to 4chan do you have to be to know not to bite the bait?
Biting the bait can be just as fulfilling to the biter as it is for the baiter.

>>560026598
>>560026531
uh oh, uncs having a spike right now

>>560026531
>>560026598
sorry its what the kids say these days. usually things like this in games get fixed asap but i think current mp games just allowed ramptant cheating to happen because it's a business itself and kids need quick dopamine fixes like having weapons buttblast everyone in a couple shots and act like its healthy for a game like this.

>>560026451
but when are you fighting a wraith within 40 seconds?

>>560026598
I'm 31 unc

>>560026624
>it doesnt bother me but I desperately want the game to die to own them
right

>>560016234
>Make it Halo
Anon, are you autistic?

AAAA WHY WONT THIS GAME DIE

ITS KILLING ME

-how some of you sound

>>560027116
you sound underage or terminally online to spout shit like that.

>They nerfed UESC
PvEbabs winning bigly, they were too fucking chunky tho to be real

>>560026598
Uncs crashing out

>>560015795
posting in the tranny thread!

>>560026179
i feel like there is no ttk that will make everyone happy, its crazy how widely opinion varies on it

>>560027284
PvE fags wanted the UESC to be tougher so they were an actual threat, this just incentivizes more PvP, and the change was designed so people didn't waste all their ammo fighting PvE.

>>560026179
Its a battle rifle that does 1/3 less damage than Magnum per shot. Its shit.

>>560027371
raising it would make the casuals happy. you know, the majority of a games audience. you know, where sales determine if the game stays in service longer so people can keep playing it

dont know if theres just a lot of dishonest people or just low iq retards these days or something.

Recon's ult is retarded, just broadcasts her location to anyone happening to look in the direction of the big green pulsating ball

>>560027284
felt like a great "hard mode" before but now its just normal which is fine i guess, but i liked the challenge of having to really conserve ammo and aim for the head and melee to save ammo

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>>560027284
I have soloed every single Warden and UESC commander pre-patch, and only the gold and purple units have a tangible difference in gunplay.
It's now easier to kill UESC commanders with 2 knife heavies using a melee implants built (which is good, makes stealth more rewarding), but the UESC still fucks you up

>>560027584
Anything above a Ghost basically absorbed ammo like a fat kid absorbing chocolate cake, even if you hit all headshots some shit would unironically take two full mags of headshots to down.

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MIDA RULEZ
ANARCHY 4 LIFE
BLOW UP THE UESC MARATHON

>>560027557
maybe i dont want the game im enjoying to be casual as fuck and maybe id prefer some zeitgeist catch on where people give it a chance like people have done on mass to other trendy difficult games

instead of this turning into another 2 minute long ttk where everyone is constantly chasing each other in a circle. this ttk was likely settled on because its just on the border of allowing escapes. more escapes is fucking frustrating in an extraction shooter, this isnt a BR. engage with the combat and do it well. if you cant, then play more stealthy and get the jump on people, or avoid combat, or play ranged. the last possible design solution should be "lower all damage/raise all hp and shields so that everyone has 10 chances to run away"

>>560025058
>>560026451
Those are all the hack status effect, which is separate to anti-virus afaik and resisted by the firewall stat. Anti-virus is what you use to resist the lockdown currently, and hopefully it'll have some sort of effect on Cryo.
>>560026750
I'm pretty sure it's 40s OF anti-virus protection, like a buffer.

>>560026750
A few runs ago my team did that - they fought wraith commander. His attack fucked my HUD up.

>>560027420
Them being spongier just meant you had to spend more time making noise and attracting people to your location. Any protracted fight against UESC just brings the people to you.

>>560027896
>2 minute long ttk
there we go makin exaggerations. well good to know you're a dishonest faggot.

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>>560027843

>>560027581
ya her ult shouldnt put out a visible effect i have no idea what they were thinking with that. i mean if you're moving a fuck ton during pulses you can throw your pings off a bit, but ya it shouldnt even be visible to them

>>560027896
>oh no the person im shooting has a chance to have the tactical choice of retreating nooooooooooooooooo

maki#3953 level 7 noob looking for other noobs are someone willing to show an extraction shooter baby the ropes. gonna be on for a few hours :)

>>560027896
healing already takes a million years for a reason, you're still statistically more likely to win if you get the drop on someone.

>>560027805
ya its like 2 full mags to the head of most guns but it felt rewarding to pull off plus i never had the ammo concerns other players seemed to have had. plus abilities and melee, i didnt feel like it was too bad

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I just want to play the game man

>>560028157
kill yourself faggot

>>560027615
got tips on soloing them?

>>560027896
Sorry anon this is 4chan in 2026 we don't allow games that are functional. I want a hugbox where nothing bad can happen to me and I DON'T care about the effect it'll have on the game.

>>560016234
yeah that could work

>>560028207
of course, which is why i dont want ttk to be higher. in an extraction shooter, you should be massively rewarded for taking in more information and playing cat and mouse better than someone else.

-if someone is shooting up a storm stomping around a compound, crouch and get the jump on them
-if you are the one shooting up a storm stomping around a compound, expect someone to be waiting for you

this dynamic is hurt by giving more chances to run away mid-fight

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>>560028261

>>560028123
Your enemy shouldn't need your consent for you to kill them.

>>560028586
>its no fair that the enemy can block my combo in a fighting game so lets just keep not having a block button

>>560028653
you dont want a block button, you want the equivalent of a multiple uses per round comeback mechanic

>>560028123
I can't imagine how bad you must be at this game if you're constantly getting killed before you have time to react. I've escaped people who got the drop on my plenty of times.

>>560028653
Pretty sure you're asking for a combo breaker in this analogy actually. An unbaitable one.

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>>560028261
Destroyer is a great shell, and so is Vandal
Destroyer is great for single target like tox warden, pop search and destroy., boost or super sprint when needed
Vandal has free blast on uesc dropship, which damages com anders and clear minions, perfect for lockdown or other events
throwing a smoke over some crouch-sized crater and standing on top helps as the UESC won't target you but you can kill them
heat and tox grenades are great
>>560027557
raising ttk will just alienate the existing fanbase of paying customers, which is quite sizeable already. The game will grow on its own eventually by receiving events, like Destiny did, no point in bastardizing it

>>560028758
>>560028796
damn comparing it to a mechanic that has its own resource is pretty ironic when its for an extraction shooter

my friend group i play with is mega ass how do i make them play better?

Fall Resistance upgrades are actually kind of insane, your escape vectors increase 100x when you can basically jump off of any high structure on the map to escape.

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>>560028778
>you dont like low ttk because you're dying
it must be unfathomable to a lot of you but theres a bit of honesty where im coming from. i know its hard to have anons disagree with you and have good reasons and you cant have that, because you enjoy low ttk because it makes you take advantage of it. it doesn't matter how fun the fight was because it was over in half a second. you just want the dopamine hit. got it.

>>560028931
"This fight is dogshit, lets just fuck off"

>>560028902
and if the ttk adjustment you are suggesting was temporary and cost a RESOURCE then it might be more acceptable because then you could use a RESOURCE to counter it

but as it stands, resource usage was just part of an analogy to a fighting game equivalent. your actual suggestion seemed to be a BLANKET ttk change, not resource or counter based

>>560028864
You can shoot the drop-ships?

>>560028864
>>raising ttk will just alienate the existing fanbase of paying customers, which is quite sizeable already. The game will grow on its own eventually by receiving events, like Destiny did, no point in bastardizing it
it was an audience already alienated from the start, which isn't doing so well numbers wise. you can only gaslight people into sayin its okay for so long before people get tired of shotty/sniper ar meltfests

>>560028931
refund before they stop being your friends

>>560029110
>but theres a bit of honesty where im coming from. i know its hard to have anons disagree with you and have good reasons and you cant have that
Why are acting like this is some sort of good faith argument when the entire idea that this game has particularly low ttk in the first place?

>>560029110
I really don't mind you disagreeing with me, actually. What I'm getting sick of though is you constantly shitting up the generals with your relentless samefagging about your genius ideas to "save" the game by pissing off the majority of its existing playerbase.

>>560029041
the maps are pleasantly vertical at times, i hope if they make another map they keep that trend up

>>560029187
>your actual suggestion seemed to be a BLANKET ttk change, not resource or counter based
because thats how they tweaked it in the first place between the playtest and slam. its like the most easiest laziest fix is just revert it back.

the people testing the game that got it nerfed were people engaging with the game thinkin how they can make money off of it. they forgot casuals make up the majority.

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Bungie were supposed to have two presentations at GDC 2026. A fuckton of other presentations scheduled for March 13 were canceled, not all of them, according to agenda, but both Bungie's talks about Marathon were among the canceled ones. I wonder what happened.

Links:
https://schedule.gdconf.com/search/Marathon
https://schedule.gdconf.com/sessions?date=2026-03-13
https://schedule.gdconf.com/session/canceled-high-performance-gameplay-networking-for-marathon/917397
https://schedule.gdconf.com/session/canceled-automating-marathon-how-bungie-went-from-10-automated-tests-to-over-100-new-reliable-tests-to-deliver-a-high-quality-stable-live-service-game/915384

>>560029110
This feels like we’re back to arguing over CoD TTKs, where it’s to make bad players feel like they’re better at the game because they can basically melt an enemy down in seconds or however it went.

>>560029341
a dense urban-themed map would be so fucking kino

>>560029320
>>560029412
>>560029480

>i want low ttk because i want people to die quick to my guns
vs
>i want high ttk because no one likes dying quick to shit

i dunno its easy to see why one would push the other

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The barter economy makes absolutely zero sense.

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>>560026425
You don't need to play like them. Comparison is the thief of joy and all that, and streamer highlights make for a terrible comparison.

Just play. The game is very easy-come-easy-go with regards to loot. You'll get your kills here and there and it'll feel amazing because you know how knifes-edge it all is.

>>560029326
im not even samefagging though. you are fine with people disagreeing but for some reason you think more than one anon having the same opinion that disagrees is somehow just not possible to you?

>>560017210
What I don't get about this "gear curve" fear is that... You can just play Perimeter. Nobody is going into fucking Hauler with anything above a blue shield and a green gun. There's nothing to chase there once you get good loot elsewhere.

Also it's great PvP practice because it's low risk and you can down green shielders with sponsor kits.

>>560029754
this guy understands. if ttk is too high you dont get clutch moments like these. instead you are dealing with that first thief for another 10 seconds and the other guy just gets ya. would be lame.

>>560029803
you're not as slick as you think you are buddy

Imagine if Chess matches were decided in one move.
Imagine if baseball games were decided with a single swing.
Imagine if Street Fighter ended after landing one punch.

All of these would make for bad games, skill expression, challenge, the back and forth between opponents that makes games what they are, this is what they're against when you push for the insanely low ttk the game has.


This game has as much depth as a game of tag.

>>560029320
it wasn't always this low though>>560029412

>>560029415
Ideally, they're locked in a basement working on more content faster

>>560029726
What the fuck
They have to be somewhat randomized or something, because sometimes they're also really good deals.

>>560029856
anon i literally just got wiped in hauler by a full purple squad like 10 minutes ago
people close to endgame probably still need perimeter mats, and even if they don't, a lot of people just want ez kills

>>560029905
its called being hardcore. imagine a game of tic tac toe but whoever puts their piece down first wins.
you just aren't ready for that type of game. play something else

>>560029905
in the UFC, Jorge Masvidal got a record breaking knee against Ben Askren's head, knocking him out in 2 seconds. it was incredible.

but in your world, right before the knee lands, time should have frozen and a time-referee should have moved Ben out of the way saying "ILLEGAL BLOW, TOO POWERFUL, ATHLETE REPOSITIONED" and then they resume time

that is what you want

>>560029754
I know you were shaking on that weapon swap lmao

>>560029110
I slightly agree, in that ttk is a bit atrocious at times. But, I wish the fights weren't just boiled down to who gets the drop on who first and just turns into an instant death or ya know fags being corner sitting niggers

>>560029196
No, you shoot the blast into the grouped enemies that drop from the dropship

>>560030105
its just like how arc raiders got. pvpers just want shitters to shoot to feel good (before aggression matchmaking came in). the gear curve is too steep. you either are freekit with blue/green shields or you're just someone who has a shotgun/sniper

they need to flex their lopsided strength on people somehow. they worked hard for it with "skill".

>>560017210
Paul is/has been all fucking talk no balls, doesn’t even play the games he supposedly loves so much. I’m not even kidding go look up his JohnnyQuest bungie net account, dude basically has never done a raid in his life, bare minimum seasonal and campaign shit if that. The guy is a shitter through and through just trying to act like he’s big shit living through content creators

>>560030345
ah okay, I did think it was interesting that you could ping the roaming UESC ships that someones show up on the maps. I don't even know if they trigger reinforcements like the ones that hot drop in or if they are decoration but they are pingable.

>>560030237
Inaccurate comparison. Gun damage isn't determined by the person using it like how power in punches or kicks is determined based on the fighter irl. Try again little bro.

>no gear based matchmaking
>no skill based matchmaking
What a shitshow.
I'm using cheats as soon as a good one drops.

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>>560026425
Nah dog. I'm pushing 35, have pretty dog shit aim, and still enjoy this game. I just run Perimeter a few times with sponsor kits to get warmed up, then fill trios and try to be a good teammate. These games are way more about positioning and strategy than you might let on. For instance, two stories I can think of: My team was low on shit and we were trying to get to exfil. We see runners crossing our LoS and I quickly bark at my team to let them pass right as the assassin went invis to engage. It was WAY smarter to do that late in the game when we were high on loot and low on resources. Second; had an early fight go incredibly bad. Teammies wanted to slay it out but I could tell we were going to get dusted after the 2nd round of revived. Backed way the fuck up and told my team not to quit. Waited a few minutes until I heard the team move on, and got the cheeky revives. We were in bad shape and down guns and meds. Gave my volt thrower to my teammate cause better chances of survival. We started going to exfil and wouldn't you know it, it's the other team but they had no idea we were still up. Team engaged them right away but I sprinted UNDER the other team, they didn't notice, and I knifed two of them in the back before they even realized I was there. Ended up extracting.

None of those situations involved me needing ultra twitchy aim, just good situational awareness and a good grasp of how extraction shooters play. It's why I really enjoy these games.

>>560029587
I don't want high ttk because it is at odds with the genre fundamentally, and eliminates most of what makes the game enjoyable and fun which is the high importance of positioning, tactics and taking good fights. I want paying attention and getting the drop on someone to mean something. I want getting the flank on someone in a 3v3 to lead to a reliable kill. I want to make split second decisions and barely make it out alive.

Also you are trying to generalize this to an all-round high vs low ttk aspect for just the gunplay. This is bullshit, because Marathon is NOT a low TTK game. The argument is that Marathon is too low considering the format and/or considering that players lose shit for dying, but the TTK is absolutely not low in absolute terms.
Look at >>560029754. That's a full second of headshots from a high DPS weapon against white shields. 1s raw time-on-target headshot TTK is simply not low at all by the standard of even arcadey FPS games. And again, weakest shields.

>>560028864
thanks nice tips
honestly i think my biggest issue trying to solo big UESC groups so far is whenver i try it, some fucker ganks me like a little nigger

>>560029754
absolutely brootal bully bukkake

>>560030536
>gear based MM
So you want to delete the gear system entirely. What's the point of upgrades if you're just going to get matched with similar geared people?
>skill based
Yeah let's take away a core part of the genre and just make it 50/50 win/loss like every other game ever.
>cheats
Oh you're retarded, got it. Your worldview makes more sense.

>>560030303
Absolutely, though it's a bit less of an ambush than it seems. I did kind of know a guy was probably in that house before the thief started sprinting up.

>low TTK game
-people sitting in corners with shotguns
-people sitting on rooftops with snipers
-people having to crouch walk everywhere to not be instagibbed
-no form of skill expression in fights

>high TTK game
-people exploring the map through a variety of paces and means
-people feeling less encouraged to afk in a spot waiting to ambush someone
-skill expression and tactics can shine through engagements


Think it's pretty obvious which is better

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The general agreement seems to be that Vandal/Recon are the worst shells, as such I have the following balance adjustments to suggest to the /mg/ braintrust:
>Vandal
Blaster by default doesn't hurt self and allows rocket jumping
Wall jump added, Vandal will stick to walls by default for about a quarter of a second, the blaster mod made default above becomes a mod that lets her stick to walls for 5 seconds. If blaster is used while sticking to a wall, gets a huge horizontal jump
Double tapping Vandal ult shortens duration but lowers activation time to .25s for more direct use in a fight
Can shoot/knife while sliding. Core that makes a sliding knife attack apply the movement debuff that the tentacle drones do.
>Recon
Ult no longer behaves like a mobile TAD broadcasting her position, instead has no visual component and gives real-time movement of pinged targets - players will get a notification similar to Recon gets when she's pinged that they're being tracked.
Spider bot significantly less crackhead retarded, will very efficiently route to closest pinged enemy player.
Add V trait that does a quick scan in the area and tells you only the number of hostiles without pinging or information about what kind of hostiles, also tells enemy players that they were pinged. Core to remove the enemy notification.

Does Tarkov have a Gear Score/Ante system like Marathon will introduce with Ranked? I know ABI has a gear requirement system but apparently it's very easy to circumvent and shitstomp lower tiers by breaking down guns into their cheaper constituent parts or something.

>>560030617
>high importance of positioning, tactics and taking good fights.
ie sitting on a rooftop or sitting in a corner and one shotting someone walking by LOL

I've got like 2 shotgun kills since launch, everyone says it's overpowered and instadeletes but just now I blasted someone with both barrels on the stairs in the intersection building, I was on one end of a section of stairs and he was on the other, it barely broke his blue shield on the second shot

>>560030536
Afaik there is gear based matchmaking but it's pretty loose. There's also probably some level of SBMM though it may just be level based MM.
I think these are just influences rather than hard rules though.

Is there a reason to want an rg over a longshot? I don't understand the purpose of railguns.

>>560030889
I figured you heard the door open at least from the way you turned.

the ttk discussion is interesting when you realize literally 90% of the player base have never touched a blue shield yet

>>560030914
sorry sweety this is a hardcore extraction shooter....wait were being shut down now because no casuals like being loot pinyatas!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>560030803
If you're a good player you want skill based matchmaking. Even gear, gear simply gives you more options, but you're too retarded to understand that.

>>560030983
No, Tarkov just matches people based on ping. And everyone is cheating so that has something to do with it.

>>560030617
>good fights
lol

>>560029875
>2 guys shouldn't beat 1 guy

>>560031334
Your gear and skill based matchmaking is called the fucking map selection screen, idiot. If you want to play low gear vs newbies, play Perimeter. Wanna sweat your ass off? Outpost or Marsh. Done.

>>560029754
Me as the thief getting downed and facefucked

>>560031334
anon dont bother wasting energy. these people are the type that like low ttk and like their shooters to be a shooting gallery on lessers.

they dont want fairness in the game. its built around sadomasochists and somehow bungie thought it was a good idea to make a live service game out of it

Issue is Marathon's hook is its art style and lore.
Anyone who wants a hardcore extraction shooter is playing Tarkov.
Anyone who wants a PvE leaning game with a good chance of proximity chat is playing Arc.

So you primarily have people who are playing Marathon for the art style and they aren't going to put up with "I saw you first so I win the fight" gameplay for very long.

>>560031513
>>560029875
Reminder it's faggots like this who need to be able to 1v3 who pushed bungie to keep the low ttk during the beta testing. Their rat-like main character syndrome is going to kill the game.

>>560031569
>just dont do any quest ever bro
Yep, you're retarded.

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>running some solo thief on marsh
>walk into bio-research
>guy yelling over proximity chat "HELP I'M THE BIOPRINTER REPAIRMAN AND I CAN'T DO MY JOB"
>what the fuck
>go upstairs
>another thief somehow managed to clip inside a shelf and get stuck there
>realize i can use my drone to push him out
>free him, he says thanks, drops some good loot for me, and starts going around roleplaying repairing the bioprinters
>suddenly hear another guy yelling "GUYS CAN I COME IN I LITERALLY JUST NEED 3 GEL"
>we let him in, he's chill too
>he gets his gel and we all exfil together
i played 40 hours without meeting a single friendly person and then met 2 in the same match, what are the odds?

>>560031382
Makes me wonder how prominent ping spoofing is

>>560031134
There's both pellet spread and severe damage falloff for the double barrel. It basically is a knife upgrade/counter. I am absolutely fine with what it does, I'm less fine with the Longshot and would be okay with simply removing it, the other two snipers have long as fuck cycle times and are rarer, while the Longshot hits a tiny bit less but can basically rapid fire and kill people before they can even react.

>>560031712
I would buy the game if it had more friendly moments

>>560030951
Vandal ideas are solid, but instead of double tapping just make it so you have to hold for the full charge.

>Anyone who wants a hardcore extraction shooter is playing Tarkov.

yeah but a single match of tarkov takes like 45 mins on average. you've got:
>5 mins of building a loadout
>5 mins of matchmaking and loading
>5 minutes of running to where you want to be
>15 mins of ratting
>30 seconds of pvp
>10 minutes of looting and hiding until the head is off
>15 mins of hobbling to extract
>3 minutes of loading back to main menu

oh also you cant fucking see anyone.

>>560031606
I'm this close to joining the steamchart threads.

>>560030473
By that metric, you analogy is void because
Chess is turn based, fps is reaction time based

Baseball is also meant to be taken in turns and is designed to happen over a long amount of time. And honestly, the moment to moment dynamics of the pitch-hit moment is actually incredibly quick and brutal, you sure thats not too craaazy for you? Damn you only get like a quarter of a second to line up this piece of wood with a ball? thats impossible i should have a multi-bat to make it fair!

street fighter is the closest you get but even that has what id call a reasonable amount of comeback for the conflict you are in. you see each other from the beginning, there is no stealth or ambushing and things like full screen combo starters are often frowned upon but in br's and extraction shooters you have sniper rifles. Furthermore, some combos can be BRUTAL on your life bar, some rounds can end in 2-3 wakeup situations.

Id say in Marathon, much of the time you have a single escape/heal opportunity if you werent completely wreckless. and if they got you in that single swift moment, something you are failing to realize is that your life-bar started going down much earlier than when the first shot was fired. someone started dealing damage to you the moment they started gathering information on you. visual, audio, footsteps, gunshots, empty loot, blood/bodies/empty ammo crates, abilities like recon and thief that gather information, if they noticed environmental things that were interacted with, lack of birds where they should be, etc etc. THIS is how you chip away at their lifebar before even seeing them.

>>560031639
Nobody is playing tarkov anymore because it's dogshit and the devs have done everything they can to make the game worse for ages.

>>560031712
Proximity chat is a blessing

>>560031160
The Longshot is currently overpowered bullshit so probably not, but judging by that TTK spreadsheet the railguns don't headshot, but hit almost as hard as sniper headshots, so you can two tap a purple shield with body shots. They're rare so I haven't exactly had the chance to test that, I have only used them against NPCs and found them underwhelming at that.

>>560032097
Literally has more players than Marathon right now, so uh oops

I'm not reading all that, bro

>>560031909
Anyone actually good at FPS is playing games with cashprize, not some fucking halo or tarkov whatever.
>lolgitgud
Where are your CS majors wins bro?

>>560030951
ya no shooting/melee while sliding on vandal is incredibly surprising, should be one of her passives already. id argue she should do all free-run actions with one hand and be able to shoot. vaults, climbs, slides, hard landing, whatever. at the very least ult should enable that

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>>560031663
Gear up then do your quests. If you aren't good enough to do your quests... Get better.

>>560032417
>cant do quests
>cant get upgrades
>cant do quests
it's very simply to understand yet you persist in keeping the #m4r4th0n_H4rdC0r3 rethoric

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>>560031712
Blame console fags, and streamer fags. I've had a few friendly moments but it's usually ruined by the random console tard wanting his greys

>>560030951
i have the most based idea in the fucking WORLD for a recon V trait but Bungie would never do it

V should activate a quick state on whoever you are targeting where you tap right when a reticle closes in on the subject in order to put a hack on them. they can tap something as well to counter. if they fail, they get hacked. generally easy to beat but difficult if in the middle of a fight and at the very least splits their attention for a second. we need somethin like that for recon. it can be on a huge cooldown who cares she just needs more ways to force things from opponents, especially given the state of spider bot

>>560032417
They aren't getting paid to get better so he should just refund.

>>560032251
>Where are your CS majors wins bro?
where are yours?

>>560031712
I usually prox chat if someone doesn't execute me quickly to tell them they're doing God's work. Most friendly encounters I've had are me and some other dipshit spotting each other at the same time, crouching repeatedly, then just fucking off in different directions so we don't have to risk getting backstabbed.

>>560032038
Dude, Marathon is doing just fine, prople somehow forget that it is still in the top 10 selles thanks to MTX dosh, trust me, I'm the Finals player

>>560031513
if the 1 guy is more skilled, correct, that 1 guy should win

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>>560029754
Also this kill is extra memorable for me because I'd done this to the very same player like 20 minutes earlier by complete accident. I was droning to scout some unrelated gunfire.
>>560031181
Yeah, but also I was in that position in the first place because I was trying to get an angle after hearing someone in that building.

Nerf DB, Bungie

>>560032615
Given that Thief's trait hacks someone just by fuckin looking at them (and does the main effect of seeing loot value for gaming the lockbox rooms) that sounds good on both a balance and interactivity level. I think my main problem for Recon is that Thief is basically just better than her at her job. Tracking bleeding players is cool but rarely relevant, and the spider bot is kinda just unreliable, and her Prime just fuckin tells everyone where she is, which is kind of fucking deadly given how the game works - it's way too much of a double edged sword while Thief gets to scout and steal shit, often remaining undetected, and can distract people.

>>560032546
The gear you need to quest on Dire Marsh vs Perimeter is literally the stuff you can farm on Perimeter. You need to get to Hauler to get penile jack off serum to unlock green shields from NuCaholic. That's it. You'll also get green weapon attachments all over Perimeter. There's your gear. Sponsor kits are good enough to PvP at Hauler for your upgrade mats. If you want to gear up for Hauler runs, just do the repeatable contracts and they'll give you green shields and guns just check their rewards, and they're often for doing basic bitch shit like killing USEX or extracting with empty piss bottles.

You're literally just not trying. And by the way doing all that shit will give you PvP practice and get you used to the guns so you can eventually do higher level PvP later. It's all part of extraction games man.

>>560032661
I never pretended i was good.

>>560032754
>if the 1 guy is more skilled

Has anybody tried the thief drone grapplehook tech? Seems OP as fuck

>>560031513
2 guys should have an advantage over one guy but he should be able to kill them in the right circumstances. I had a fight earlier today where an enemy was holding the door to the stairs of the roof. We couldn't easily push in on him, so I wind up running out, climbing onto a nearby building, and boosting back over to the roof to flank him. That was cool, but wouldn't happen with high TTK because we could just push through his chokepoint risk free.

>>560032950
I'd cum if that happened to me on Thief

>been trying to do seiko gucci quest for 20 runs now
>zero success
I'm willing to bet the game will die before season2, sadly polymarket is banned in my communist shithole.

>>560033113
Use your words, what point are you trying to make?

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>>560033160
> we could just push through his chokepoint risk free.
why do you fucking low IQ retards act like the ttk either has to be 1 second or 30 seconds

No you wouldnt be able to just run at people risk free because they can't kill you in a second

>>560033065
Alot of quests are on outpost. see >>560033251

How far can you progress without actually killing anyone

>>560031712
about to do some test runs tonight since im not gonna jerk off
going to solo and use prox chat
>if you shoot me you're gay
and see if it works

>>560033325
Yes you would. If the TTK is significantly longer than the time it takes you to get people through a chokepoint, the chokepoint stops mattering. If we can run through without dying, we both run through and shoot the guy together for a risk-free win.

>>560033390
A lot of the repeatables are wherever you want though, and give comparable rewards. The main story ones, yes, I'll agree are kinda rough. But I honestly don't think you're supposed to just power through those.

>>560033393
everything but Arachne I assume

>>560033325
Statistically a game with higher TTK a player cannot handle a "mass charge" of two people pushing without running out of ammo mid-push. Even if he downed one of you he's now forced to waste time swapping/attempting to reposition and getting finished by the 2nd dude.

I'm fine with the low TTK but I really think they should either lower the cost of of patch kits/shield charges or sell the depleted versions in the armory for cheap. Freekits just seem objectively economically better than cheap loadouts, because cheap loadouts need you to bring in heals that literally cost more than the guns you're running.
>just barter sparkleafs for patch kits bro
It's RNG whether you'll get that deal in your daily barters, and even if you do, you still need shield charges.

>>560033393
Probably pretty far with a lot of patience and stealth. Going to take way longer than normal though.

>>560033608
They did make heals a lot more common with today's patch at least

>>560033407
this worked for me once in arc raiders, it was pretty funny
>run into a guy
>fires a few shots at me
>dodge roll behind cover
>"IF YOU SHOOT ME YOURE GAY"
>roll the dice
>come out behind cover
>we just stand there for a second
>then he runs away when he could have easily mag dumped me

>>560033325
I just want the ttk to at least be like 4-8 seconds so there's less chance of instantly being fucking lasered unless melee'd or sniped. At least there it's mildly forgiving to keep the fight going or bail, not be bumfucked by some dick suck nigger afking in a corner and it would at least punish the shotgun shitters somewhat

>>560032989
ya thief is kinda just super powered recon. what recon lacks in mobility and trickiness, she needs to make up for with ease of use and blunt effectiveness. i can see thats what they were attempting to do with her kit but it kinda falls on its face as is

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>>560030951
No, Vandal is fine, great even.
She can power slide out of danger and cover the map in ways not even Destroyer can.
Her blast is already very strong, can pull teams out of exfil point and clear corners
The wall jump nonsense is pointless, Vandal can make insane leaps with the double jump
I don't know what kind of retards you asked to claim Vandal is bad.
Recon is not great because the TAD makes you easy to spot, but is still a solid shell, gimped by low mobility. Yet the way you would change TAD makes it an hilarious wallhack
A good way to change TAD would be having it reveal the shell with custom markers and last less, like 3 pings, but recharge faster, meaning after some early recon one can reposition freely
Recon passive is still great but people are still trying to pretend the TTK is low in this game

>>560033608
What about an ammo crate but for depleted medkits/chargers? Give players a way to bring in meds more cost efficiently, but you lose them still if you don't exfil. Higher rarities could even have a load of them, being more space efficient than their own tier of meds but again you're losing them if you don't use them.
Also avoids the weirdness of having depleted shit in your vault that you can take in but not take out.

>>560033679
Only in Perimeter, and I still woudn't want to risk going in with no heals. If a fight breaks out before you find a med cabinet, you're fucked.
The more I think about it the more I think selling depleted kits/chargers is the best solution, desu.

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forgive me /mg/ for I am sinning

I love to choose rook, camp an extrac from a high ledge, wait until the extact becomes active and the crowd gathers arround and ,then jump and knife the closest mfer and finish him off seconds before the matter transfer, its compleatly pointless and cruel, yet I cant get enough of it
should I seeketh help?

>>560033965
You should but I also support what you're doing and want you to continue.

>>560033693
you have found the only heterosexual Arc Raiders player

>>560034072
kek

>>560033760
they really need to fix the jank spidermine pathing, same with the flood spores.

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I have NOTHING
No money
No gear
NOTHING
I make sub 1k credits per extract and it takes 20 minutes

>>560034072
They're all heterosexual because they're all gamer dads

>>560034165
and you get killed anyway
game sucks

>>560034165
lol skill issue unc go back to arc babies!!!
in all seriousness you're right, the armory prices are too damn high

Do you toggle or hold sprint?
Crouch?

remembering how i was so scared of ratting because i would fuck up but this game makes it way too easy to kill people that anyone in the exfil is pretty much a free kill and they already lubed up the extraction point for you LMFAO

>>560034165
>>560034321
dub pistols and a stack of claymores is 400 bucks. more than enough to trap upp a building and get some easy kills.

>>560033472
you could have done that anyway and it would have worked because you'd have double the firepower he had, you were just too pussy to do it it has nothing to do with TTK
>boosting back over to the roof
>boosting
ain't no way you were playing destroyer with a shield the size of a doorframe and you were too scared to push one guy holding some stairs holy shit, are these the kind of people begging for low TTK?

>>560034405
toggle in any fps or TPS you numbskull

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