To TTK or not to TTK, that is the question Edition>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Pagehttps://www.marathonthegame.com/>Gameplay Trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWwXSb7dlnQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXhQbF7TlbA >The Entire History of Marathonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7uN6-lNhkhttps://marathon.bungie.org/story/>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg//vg/ Discord:https://discord.gg/k7PvdP5DNews:>MARATHON TERMINALS ONLINE IN DIRE MARSHhttps://cryoarchive.systems/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xl543pQOw >SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>FIRST OFFICIAL CUP COMING SOONhttps://x.com/MarathonTheGame/status/2031747566812180723>BATTLEPASS UPDATEDhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/xnRC9IxTkJo>RECENT PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_0_4Previous Run: >>560176795
Refunding this gayme will me cum
>>560205384>19,832
So am I at a huge disadvantage not having head phones? People seem to hear and react to see I can't despite having the volume cranked up
*filters you with aim assist*
>>560205526yup
>>560205109extraction shooters were never "the next big thing" every single one that came out has been a middling success at best, the only outlier being *** ****** and that only managed to stay successful because it abandoned pretty much everything that made it an extraction shooter
>>560205539I find it the funniest that the automatic weapons that reward headshots like crazy get such a ridiculous aim assist boost in the mid-range. You literally only need to point in the vicinity and the game might as well do the rest for you.
>>560205526>So am I at a huge disadvantage not having head phones?Make sure to turn the music volume down, when you get a headset.
>>560205559>>560205805Are there any good earbuds for gaming? I can't wear headphones I have sensitive baby ears
>>560205846Use any earbuds that work. Switch music volume to 2/10, dialogue volume to 2/10, keep sound effects at full.You don't need a (((special))) headset.
Shooting people climbing ladders will make me God
>>560205571>I really don't get the TTK debateIt becomes a lot easier to understand when you realize they don't actually play this game they just spam the generals with bullshit to make them unusable
>>560205846IEMs might do the thing for you.I've not used them myself but they're a consistent /g/ meme.
i used noise cancelling headphones during the slam. It pissed me off that my teammates obviously didnt use headphones
>>560205109Nigger have you paid literally even the slightest attention to any discussion on this game at all?It's the opposite of safe. It's been constantly shat on for having an artstyle that isn't generic and corpo enough, for being an extraction shooter which is niche and not some big chasable trend, for being pvp focused and too hardcore for worthless indian subhumans to enjoy. It's the anti-goyslop and that's the entire reason its doing poorly.
defending bad gamu will make me God
>>560205846I've personally liked the steelseries gamebuds since they have a dongle. anc isnt very good though
plagiarism will make me godhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6T8rU_DgMs
Recon is friend to no one. Prey to none.Predator to all.
>>560205981>muh turn fights aroundYeah because of the matchmaking. You win fights that you shouldn't win because the other guy is a retard or undergeared.
I'm making a shitty meme video do you guys want to see it?
>>560206342i hope we'll get a normal shooter with sloppathon look one day
>>560206396have you noticed recon dies in every trailer, always by surprise
>>560206152This honestly sounds like a....good thing? I mean I don't know if its financially viable long term but "going against the grain" is kind of refreshing in the AAA genre.
>>560206430Ok
>>560206398>Y-You only won the fight because you were better than the other player!Okay?
>>560206398>you shouldn't win a fight just because you're more skilled>you shouldn't win a fight just because you got the drop on your opponentSo what should win you a fight?Pure fucking luck, after you've both dumped four mags into each other??
>>560206430Drop it.
>>560206445itd be more viable if it was sp, making it pvp only is suicide
>>560206398>ou win fights that you shouldn't win because the other guy is a retard or undergeared.I am undergeared and retarded
>>560206512What wins fights right now is whoever gets the jump first.The only exception is if you are lucky and the other guy is a complete animal.
>>560206669Yeah because you are a rat.You are doing God's work though. I'd play like that too if I knew how.
putting claymores in the air vents will make me god
making people uninstall will make me god
Why is the invisible character still just as strong in a straight up fight as every other character isn't this fundamentally retarded?
>>560206810>Guy sprinting around in an open area is a "rat"Man what the fuck does this word even mean anymore?
>>560206810>if I knew how.You keep trying in this game, and similar games. Don't get pissed when it doesn't work, then you'll start doing it without overthinking, no panic. You'll be relaxed while the other guy starts sweating. The other dude will be more likely to make a mistake, get greedy.
>>560206727>What wins fights right now is whoever gets the jump first.Depends on a lot more factors. If you get jumped in Dire Marsh, you're likely way too much out in the open, if you get jumped indoors you're usually making either too much noise or not checking the right places. It's also wild how little fills use the fucking shutters, they'll keep sightlines blocked and people out with doors being the only option in/out.
>>560206904this isn't a gamethis was to make bungie a lot of money
>>560206904There are no invisible characters.You can easily see through stealth even if they don't move.
>>560205526I have bookshelf speakers and there's enough depth to the sound to know if someone is left, right or behind me. I need a mic but I hate wearing a headset not being to hear anything else going on in the house.
>>560206445Yes which is why the game has diehard defenders already. Unfortunately the hordes of subhumans are too much.
>>560206904Assassin's mobility in terms of vertical options is pretty much restricted to the same toolkit as the rest of the shells that aren't Thief or Vandal. In trios, Assassin is also completely flushed down the shitter with a single Recon or anyone actually using proxy nades or thermals. Sin is great for ratting in solo and flanking unprepared teams/camping, but beyond that they have little utility outside the smoke shenanigans. In comparison for Solo, Recon and Destroyers have ridiculously good 1v1 potential, Thieves and Vandals can escape/avoid most encounters that end up not being in their favor, while Sin's entire capacity hinges on having access to smokes and their Tactical.
>spawn with 3 claymores and a pistol, genuinely sub-freekit gear to try get explosive damage for a quest>wind up looting pinwheel and solo extractinghuhpeople really don't push for pinwheel much on outpost solo do they?
>>560205526yes>>560207176look into "open ear" headphones I think they are calledbasically the opposite of noise cancelling and lets you still hear with them on
>>560206445You should try it out. It's the best pvp shooter I've played in ages.
>>560207432So then people will hear my sound through the mic..? I'm not Brazilian
>>560207414I don't even know how to get in there.
>surviving teammate downs attacking team, but dies to heat cascade through the skylight in flight control
>>560207547>So then people will hear my sound through the mic..? I'm not Brazilianyou really have to just look it up yourselfI am saying OPEN EAR headphonesnot to "play with OPEN MIC"I am giving you advice to get headphones you can wear over your ears and still hear real life noises, like when Mommy says its dinner time
>>560206489>>560206565https://youtu.be/r-2KXfeXCuUdon't bully pls
>>560207751Yeah i know what you mean but with open ear the sound also escapes out of the headphones. I doubt they make headsets with open ear and mics because of this.
>>560207595Current two ways are>get two green keys, go to entrances between the spokes (green circles on this map), fight a bunch of USEC that spawn in while the elevator unlocks>find a special "conveyance request" key, head underneath the drone wing and use a computer in a small shack to call down the elevatorPreviously there was also destroyed wing but they disabled that because the rook swarm was getting retarded.In general outpost becomes a lot more understandable once you realize how the keys work; every lock has green/orange/red symbols on it and requires that many of that key to unlock, so a one-green-two-orange lock requires one green and two orange keys.
>>560208153does conveyance request have a set spawn like the keys?
Cat just puked on my Ps5 when playing Marathon. Still love the game.No fluid got into the console, we still ratting.
>>560207929Cute run anon
>>560207929Keep it up. It's got a good foundation.
>>560208268I think there's a ton of them spawning all over the map. I've grabbed a few as Rook in practically the weirdest places.
>>560208268Don't know. Honestly I don't even know where I picked it up that run, and any other time it's been my teammates who found it.>like the keysIsn't it only the red keys with set spawns, or am I missing something?
The character design of this game is shit and i never pretended its not.I would absolutely play this game if it didn't mean running around as some troony plastic toy.
>>560207929Not badCould use a couple of jump cuts or something to cut down the running section>using a shield charger before going in for the executeanon the execute charges your shields
>>560208539nobody cares what you think
To the three players I killed mid looting as a rook. Especially the ones with the purple shields that I took...I have no regrets. For I am Rook.
>>560208539It is but the game is at least intentional about them being troony plastic toys.
>>560208658I will remember
>>560208683damn bro that hurt. you didnt have to say it like that..?i bet the game is fun.. which is why i care so much.. about the characters being so unbelievably unappealing.. but okay.. im gonna go cri nyow..
>>560209182Cya
>>560206669>rolleryou didn't beat the game
noose all shotgun trannies wtfff
>>560209320>you didn't beat the gameAm undergeared with no headphones.
>>560207929Like the other anon said, cut out some of the long parts where nothing happens. Fun video otherwise, i watched the entire thing.
Best shell for ratting? I don't want to get in gunfights. I just want their shit :)
Giving blowies to the enemy team will make me god.
>>560209818Assassin
>>560209182you mean nothing to anyone
Longer TTK will fix my shit reflexes
Why must gfniggers and arknightards infest any game that has guns? Why must they insist that every game must have tacticringe anime girls? Why haven't they killed themselves yet?
>>560210036God this game looks bad sometimes
can someone give me a qrd on melee attacks
>>560210171>qrd on melee attacks
>>560210376>you can't let them get closeGee I wasn't aware of this sick strat that helps a lot
>>560209939I do this to my own team too
>>560210376>my gear should matter more than skill!
>>560210171right click
>>560210748Even better off, if he is so worried about losing knife fights, just bring any shotgun will fix most issues. In ambush situations, there seriously is no one except yourself to blame for getting literally knifed down.
i dont know how to acknowledge pings
>>560210913ping the ping
when am i ready for the harder maps? I'm level 12 right now
>>560211063Just practice the first two maps until you've done some contracts and opened a bit more meta progression/faction armory options. You'll be losing a lot of shit at the Outpost, so take your time in getting comfortable with Perimeter/Dire Marsh.
i think they need new finisher animations, only one is a bit disappointing
>>560210171Right click is an amazing finisher with a halo power sword lunge, 3x left click combo will kill anyone with green shields
>>560211367yea and you should have to buy them for MTX
>fill into outpost>team fucking around>only responding to text chat>kill 3 teams>eventually hit pinwheel, then command wing>shit loot but w/e>teammates fucking around as time gets low>they ping locked exfil at edge of map we don't have a key for and run towards it at like 20s left>keep running for it even as timer hits 0:00 and it disappears>no time to explain, so I just ping the final exfil and gun for it it>wind up exfiling directly in front of them as they realized their mistake too late and turned aroundI feel so bad and yet there was nothing I could do
If you don't like a game, you have to force yourself to develop le skill.If you love the game, you will learn to win even with bad gear.Because you like to keep playing it. Bungie, Sony, the store recolors, charts, none of that matters. The game's good, because it plays good.
>sekiguchi quest>find sparkleaf, synthesize sample in bio-research, bring to quarantine>one quest later>find sparkleaf, synthesize sample in bio-research, bring to quarantine all over again but just harderwtf is this simpsons hit and run bullshit did they completely give up when it came to sekiguchi
>try to use destroyers buttons instead of waiting for backshot opportunities >do worse
>>560211367It plays a very important role in both Finisher Siphon and player state information, so having someone do a Fortnite dance to kill someone will not only make you more exposed, you'll also have a little bit harder time in figuring out who is actually being downed, who is getting finished and who is in the process of getting finished. A lunge downwards also hides your upper body when using the finisher, so the baseline should remain the same. There could be first person animations implemented from the player's POV, like flipping the knife or doing some other neat tricks but from the other players PoV, everything should remain the same.
>>560211893I think they intentionally made them more bullshit to try and recreate the Jaeger effect but didn't really do it in a fun way where it's obvious they're just fucking with you.
too much fucking running in this game manwhen i spawn in to do a contract and see im on the opposite side of the map i just want to exit and retry for a better rng spawn point
someone send me a postcard when they nerf shotguns and buff the armory and ill be back
>>560205384Is it true that people are already running into hackers? I wish they'd add a real way to spectate other players after death that way cheaters are easier to detect.
>>560211901If you prefire the Q in a teamfight it can do pretty well, locking peoples movement down is strong esp if you have grenades.Generally I don't mind the combat-orient hero not being push-button-for-kill based enough though, the alternative would be obnoxious.
>>560211367I want Thief to cumkiss me with the bulls seed while gently plunging the knife into my heart
>>560212079I've had Russians laser me through smoke and every shot hit, was total bs.
>>560212071>and buff the armoryArmory what's the problem there? Beyond it not being super necessary with how much free shit you get.
>>560212328who is the bull, i dont read lore
>>560211893I'm at step 5 of co-evolution and while I'm sure this is fun to do when you have like two other people who>aren't terrible>are also doing the contract and are prepped specifically for it>are familiar with the mechanics of the game and understand what lockdowns areif you aren't someone with a pre-made, this quest is a legit nightmare and feels absolutely fucking awful trying to achieve>you need an anti virus so by default you can't sponsor kit this>spawn in on the other side of the map>get a chitin sample>run to bio research>get sample>run to ai uplink>make anomaly happen at ai uplink>run all the way to quarintine>combine sample and anti virus>take drug>run all the way to anomaly lockdown>hope a team hasn't just killed the guys you were supposed to kill>kill the UESC>kill the commander>THEN exfil>have to do all of this in 25 minutes and without dying to another teamHow the fuck are you supposed to do this with randoms or as a solo
>>560212458Thermals see through smoke, anon.
>>560212485you basically just said it yourself. it's fucking useless and,>free shiti dont want random hand-me-downs, i want an efficient kit i can buy every time without liquidating all my savings
>>560212079I've had a few encounters where some players just simply shouldn't have the info they do. Some retards sitting in Algae Pools hotbox without Recon just sneaking up on us from the inside with perfect knowledge of everyone's positioning and even catching a flank with impunity. I'm pretty sure the ESP stuff is pretty widespread before they hit the first major banwave.
>duhh i dont use the armory at all so why would you buff itfucking idiots
>>560211901He's dogshit I don't get why niggers are suddenly getting this idea that actually he's le secret S-tier. The shield is too slow to do anything but stall with, thruster uses all your heat for the shittiest most inflexible mobility in the game and the rockets are for pve use only, which after the health nerf is total overkill on everything but the wardensthe only good thing he has is being able to super-sprint across the map when the game spawns you 700m from your contract objective, someone please explain to me what is so secretly CRACKED about this character
>>560212841whats armory
>>560212909the store
>>560212897>The shield is too slow to do anything but stall withshield saves my life once every run. it is your OH SHIT I HAVE BEEN JUMPED button. you hit it and people usually keep dumping mags into it. you wait until they have to reload or switch weapons and then pull out yours and kill them. you can also use thruster while its up so you can reposition if you need to.
also re: armory, level 80 lobby wiping nerds that should be millionaires are broke because they need to buy the shotgun whenever they wipe. that's it. broke on bottom-tier shotgun rook can spawn with
>>560212734I mean the fact that other sources of loot make it not necessary isn't a bad thing and I don't think making the armory cheap enough to compete for whole loadouts would help.It's fine for filling in holes in your loadout as is and I like that you need to actually use what you find a bit more in this compared to other extraction shooters.>>560212841Goal of systems balance shouldn't be for every thing to be used as equally, it should be for everything to have a purpose.
no one is using it. i have level 40s in my group who are freekitting. its OBVIOUSLY a fucking problem. >>560213072see,>>560213070and did you notice the 10m credit cap? are you getting close? 2 months until wipe btw
>>560212529I dunno George Droid? Lmao
>>560212586theres no way thats an actual contract right
>>560212657Nah dude it was bullshit, every shot from being downed to finished was pinpoint through the smoke with a full auto
>>560213052In teamplay it's even better, because you're practically able to give cover for your team for either a res or giving them a chance to crawl to safety for a self-res. The other usage is obviously laying in pressure indoors. With Impact Siphon especially, they're not going to get through unless the EMP you.
>>560213070>Need to buy.Or they play one game of Rook and exfil with the WSTR?
>>560210036>melee at a distance?
>>560212897I just play him because he looks cool, I wasnt really paying attention to abilities yet
>>560212897>thruster uses all your heat for the shittiest most inflexible mobility in the gameBeing able to shoot while using it is a big plus. Everyone's already complaining about shotguns and thruster into shotguns is the biggest threat they have.It's also genuinely really good for its ability to hover which means you get a lot of mobility options in more vertical/urban terrain.>and the rockets are for pve use only, which after the health nerf is total overkill on everything but the wardensYes but really it's for hordes; pinwheel entrance is massively more doable with destroyer than any other solo and even in trios it makes that or the command wing ending more doable. Health nerf did fuck it up.>super-sprint across the map when the game spawns you 700m from your contract objectiveIt's less heat efficient so you're slower over long distances. Its main use is probably pushing in on people who you've cracked to confirmed the kill. Or dashing through rain on outpost.Shield also lets you get up close to then shotgun people in otherwise long range engagements. Higher melee damage on him is probably the one stat change a shell has which really matters.Biggest problems are that he basically needs a shotgun to function so you're running him shotgun/LMG like the majority of the time.tl;dr he's outpost cqc: the shell
>>560213476>leaves 3man squad to do a rook runor they buff the armoryyoure just wrong, nigger. fuck off
>>560213153I'm level 52 and don't bother bringing anything unless I'm in a premade. I always play with free kits
>>560210376>knife OPIf only it was indeed so. Maybe, just maybe, you have to kill a whole lot of players to advance Arachne far enough and have enough of that shitty biogel and resin to buy upgrades in the first place.
>>560213609Yes. Let's make everything super cheap so your lazy ass can go cap some other nigger with a 500 credit cost WSTR. Are you fucking retarded or something?
>>560213651yea, exactly. i try to save my good stuff for when my gang is onw/ randoms i try to use the sponsored kits @ 2.5k, sometimes 4k... theyre decent value, but it still stings just a little when your squadmates are always freekits
>>560213070Shotgun being expensive isn't a bad thing. Sounds like a problem for streamers that NEED every raid to be full-kitted for viewer retention.>>560213476They made it damaged like his shield and backpack in the patch
>>560213752the WSTR is another problem, the point is they're going broke buying something that's considered mid/low tier. players who are level fucking 85. do you understand?
>>560213805see,>>560213847and there's also a matter of cores, and some augments-- these define your playstyle. are you going to buy these each time (if you even can get the right version) to play the way you like to play? are you ever going to be able to afford that-- no, not as is.
>>560213153To me it has nothing to do with credits or not wanting to lose my gear or anything, it’s that every time I want to make my own loadout, I need to fumble through ugly menus and my vault, ok 2 cores, 3 implants, grenade slot, shield slot, guns and attachments and finally ammo and meds. It just becomes such a fucking chore. I don’t understand why they don’t let players build and save loadouts. If you’ve got the contents of the loadout in your vault and can just select it and it will throw everything on for you. Maybe you make loadouts based on what’s unlocked in the armory and you can press a convenient “buy all and equip option”
>>560213752>>560213805how often are you buying the 15k weapons? the 5k? the 3k? how often are you buying meds (outside of barter)000000timesbut youre telling me its fine?
>>560213847Who fucking cares. Spend and farm more credits, steal that shotty from lockers, other players or just play less like a nigger and i'm sure you'll find a way to use it once in a while. What the fuck is the problem?
>>560213805>They made it damaged like his shield and backpack in the patchUpgrade one of the faction trees that allow you to get a chance of getting a matter fixative from UESC as Rook. Then use it on shotgun.
>>560213847>buying something that's considered mid/low tierThere is not one person playing this game that thinks the WSTR is mid/low tier, what the fuck are you on about genuinely? Why would they be buying it every round if it was mid/low tier?Do you mean loot tier? Because it isn't, which is why it costs so much and why they're going broke buying it. You can buy functional weapons for 500. A bully for 1k, an M77 for 3k. The Shotgun is a powerful tool that dominates its niche so it's more expensive.
>>560214028>What the fuck is the problem?i explained it you literal fucking imbecile
>>560214142im talking about the progression and costing. the mid tier guns are 3-5k. the high end stuff if 15k+ do you understand?
>>560214026>15kThose are genuinely retarded yes, but that's also really more of a problem with schemas not being worth it.>5k, 3kI've bought a shotgun once or twice though I mostly loot them. I've M77 a couple of times too.
>>560214165>Abloo bloo, people have to spend credits in the game. Give me more vault space and let me hoard more stuff/credits so i can die sixteen times without ever having to think about my wallet or stash taking a hit.Do you seriously believe the armory is supposed to be net value? Are you fucking insane?
>people playing this game like a PvP deathmatch>actively follow the bullshit AIs tell you to do>while at the same time game favours you for actually exfiltrating, looting garbage, and stacking your vaultYou know, most of these issues would not even BE issues if game had a PvE mode. Get your training wheels on, and once you feel like a big boy, go have a tussle with the rest of big boys.And then there are cheaters, and i am not talking about aim assist on consoles.>Battle EyeA joke, and yet again, issue is fixed by having a PvE mode.
>>560214414i think it should be cheaper to build a low-end kit, yes. absolutely. convince me otherwise.
>>560214225At 6K it's pretty solidly mid-tier. I don't think that someone SHOULD be able to buy mid tier guns repeatedly without exfiling shitloads of money. 6K is good value from a solid run. Full pinwheel clears are easily 12K plus, if these people are really farming lobbies.Also again there's so many of these fucking things around that I don't know how you can be winning lobbies and not wind up with an excess. They're better value-per-square than most loot in your backpack. Just carry extras out.
>playing rook on outpost>hide in a little nook during cascade>somebody comes out to loot during it>start shooting them in the head, kill him>kill his friend too>take everything and exfilwhat is even the point of bringing loot into the game if I can kill actual runners with a pistoli get they want free kits and low gear builds to be viable but it makes me feel like I shouldnt bring gear in and risk losing it because the gear doesnt even matter
>>560214939If they gear doesn't matter, why are you afraid of bringing it in and losing it?
>>560214562now do the "this is how I would fix the game" post
>>560214939Only the shield matters a bit.
>>560214939Every time I’ve brought a blue shield or really bothered to spend more than 10 seconds worrying about my load out I get 2 tapped by a shotgun or sniped from God knows where anyway. Never feel like It was worth it. To the point of rook through specifically, it’s wild how fast your green pistol can down someone in purple shields.
What's the codex entry for this? It's the only HMG scheme that isn't fugly pastel including the default. I don't have most of my codex unlocked because my vault is already perma full.
GOOD ON YA RUNNAH
How do I cheese this
>>560215280lol
how do I git gud as rook
>>560215280read that as Parasemitism
>go to outpost for MIDA contract>2 others have Segtek ghost on rooftop one>they need to get into pinwheel but they don't know the way>I dont know either>they are fucking around outside looking for a door for such a long time>I just leave them and do my contract>somehow they are fucking around in dormatories by the time I'm extracting, both down begging me to come and helpCya niggas
>>560215048i suppose youre right about that, but it definitely feels worse to load up with expensive shit and then die to a rook or somebody with a free kit as opposed to being on the other end where you essentially risk nothing
>>560214939I don't think Bungie realized just how many people would engage with the PVP portion of Marathon. Perhaps they thought they would have a player base that only did PVE activities similar to Arc Raiders, but that's definitely not the case of Marathon.
>>560215368get really high and pretend the game is real
>>560215280Just take free kits and and help some niggas out on Perimeter for a few (5-10) runs, you'll get it done eventually. Teammate exfilling with the items also counts for you
>>560215280look up where those items spawn, go there, and pray
my only complaint is that i have a job and have to compete with fullstack streamer teams with 1,000 hours of combined playtime running all gold loot
>>560213847>WSTR is another problemSo are sniper rifles.And i am not talking about ease of access, i am talking about performance.>shotgun deals so much damage and can fire two times instead of once with both barrelsThe way to fix it is to make it fire once, both barrels, whithout changing any stats, before reloading.>sniper rifleBullet drop and windage. Actually, it is a major problem in this game - almost all weapons are hitscans, which is a major bullshit and a MAJOR boost to aim assist on consoles or though hardware hacks on PC.>thermal sightsThermals should be nerfed to hell by making them ineffective at long distance and to be ineffective even at medium if there is fog or rain. Thermals seeing through smoke invalidates smoke grenades and assassin's abilities (unless one of his cores makes smoke count as hot to obscure thermals and you can bet that they will make it a gold-prestige core if it doesnt exist like that already). Thermal sights should work in tune with heat mechanic, meaning that the closer you are to being overheated or you are overheated - you glow like a signal flare even at long range.And what is even more irritating is that WSTR is quieter than a rifle or a magnum or even CE Sidearm. And so are sniper rifles.You literally have weapons that are OP because they make less sound, have fucked up mechanics that benefit them, and a dead-log-for-brain tier of a developer. Because it looks like their intent is to force in some bullshit due to personal preferences. Its the "creator's barely disguised fetish" kind of a thing.This game is fucked. I like it for the System-Shock-in-open-spaces vibe, but as a PvP game that they want to make it look like its a very shitty game.
>>560215474the game is tdm with loadouts and shooting scripted AI from 2013 is only fun for a little while.
>>560215474Lolwut, pvp is completely the focus
>>560215280Clearing pinwheel gets you a bunch of drives ime. Circuits are more of a bitch though.
>>560215653Fractal circuits are all over the place as a random salvage same with drives
>>560215401Yeah, though that's far less of a problem in trios
>>560215474They’re bonehead retarded if they thought that. The UESC are boring and totally uninteresting to fight, it’s actually just a less fun version of shooting at another player so why wouldn’t players opt to shoot each other
>>560215612Not necessarily. The game does feature a lot of PVE segments. You could say Arc Raiders is PVP, but there's clearly a user base that doesn't want to engage with PVP.
>>560215368play like your life is worth nothing (because that's true)people aren't really on guard when it's late into the match, so you can usually get the drop. if they don't know you're there, stalk them until you find an advantageous position where you can safely full kill someone and then force the rest of the team into a choke that you're safe to hide in due to your claymores. really just play around CQC and claymores, getting caught in the open will kill you. claymores make people hesitant to push you because they'll die, and some people already have the shotgun so they're doubly hesitant to push on that. you can put claymores above doorframes and they're impossible to see or shoot for anybody running through the doors.
>>560215063>fix the gamePvE mode, that is, just queue solo/duo/trio into a map with no other teams.They are not so poor that they cannot afford server space, when they do that stupid shit like fluffy toys, promo jackets, and other bullshit that some marketing retard pushes because the dogma is marketing > product. Reality is that you dont need marketing for a good product. You need visibility, but not obscene bullshit that wastes money. And they appear to love that marketing obscenity.
>tfw playing solo
>>560215543I'll say it every time it comes up, if the snipers were actually slow to execute you, and crawling away to cover + self reviving was an actual counter that forced them to confirm their kill, so much of the problem would be gone.>unless one of his cores makes smoke count as hot to obscure thermals and you can bet that they will make it a gold-prestige core if it doesnt exist like that alreadyNah, if there's one good thing about this game's itemization its that the gold cores genuinely feel like gamechangers. Like one of Assassin's is going invisible when holding ADS for an extended period. They don't fuck around.
>>560215834>spoilerhow do you place them there?
>>560215280North and South relay. Enjoy your stay.
>>560215923no I mean the greentext oneit usually starts with rise the ttk
>>560215932yeah contracts solo are a fucking grind
>>560215792Dude this game has a single PvE sequence copy and pasted over every map.>do thing >UESC target dummies spawn in wavesWow amazing
>>560215762Fractal circuits are all over the place on outpost in general, drives I only find their in pinwheel but in greater quantities.Outside of outpost circuits genuinely only spawn in north relay from what I can tell.Maybe this is all confirmation bias though.
>trying to sneak past UESC>thief drone spots me and starts stealing my shit>can't shoot it or i get aggro'dLOL
>>560216027point and click. they can be placed on walls, and if you want to make sure of where you're playing you can hold G to get a ghost preview of where they're being placed
>>560216230:3
>>560216230owned quite frankly
>>560216230lmao
>>560216193I got a storage drive from a gun turret on perimeter, seriously the greens can drop anywhere
>>560216230Everything in this game is designed to mindbreak people
>>560216232>hold GOh that’s massive, thanks
>>560216230i love thief but it's a broken faglord character which needs a half dozen patches>thief drone can't be countered when someone is near UESC>thief drone can steal from people during the exfil animation and you can't do anything about it>ukraine tactics>movement exploit is better than both vandal and destroyer>grapple is way too good and invalidates vandal>better enemy locating than recon>also a loot characterit's retarded and the best shell by a mile
>>560216230>>560216445so thats why thief was excluded from the server slam
>>560216445The movement tech is genuinely broken and invalidates other characters, and the Donbass Special needs some actual counterplay. Other than that her strengths are needed given that none of her abilities matter in combat.
>at an activated guarded exfil as rook>disguised so uesc dont aggro>dumb retard rook appears on the horizon>sees me>"dont do it you fucking-">opens fire on me>mostly misses me but a single bullet grazes me>gunfire disrupts my disguise for a nano second>purple shield ghost immediately wipes me from existence>then immediately runs over and kills the retard rook>neither of us get to exfil
Why is every rook an absolute retard>hurr durr I kill 1 guy out of 3 surely they won't murder me in 0.1 seconds>wow wtf I'm dead shit game
>>560216146If you want pve then go play Ark Raiders, retard.
>>560216751there should be more incentive for rook truces. it's the most fun i've had in the game 2v3ing with a random rook
>>560216232....and on controller?
>>560216061>ttkIdk man, AFAIC, all issues are fixed by PvE - you get time to learn the game, learn what does what, shore up gear for PvP sweatfests, learn map, practice, explore and appreciate the art, ponder planetary colonisation, and when you are itching for the fight - go for it.TTK may be ultra-low, but tell that to CS, Quake 3, UT where you get instagibbed by AWP, rocket to the face, or eat flack shot/grenade or tripple rocket.Issue is not with low TTK. Its with how ballistics work in thegame. Aside from some volt weapons, its all hitscan. HITSCAN. If i wanted hardcore PvP, i would go play UT with instagib shock rifles, Or Q3 with railguns-only. NOW THAT is hardcore PvP. So no, if i wanted to fix TTK, i would make all ballistic weapons have bullet drop and windage. One thing people dont appreciate about this game is weather and wind and rain. Windage would make this actually matter in firefights. As for volt weapons - hitscan, no auto-tracking, reduced range unless Channel rifle, reduced effectiveness and range in rain and fog. Obviously things become hitscan when in open space (as in vacuum) and low gravity - just in case they make a map that takes place on the moon or in space.
>>560216816No risk = play like retardBetter than them all being seasoned viet cong guerillas desu
>>560215932Sekiguchi 5/5 where you have to inject the specimen and then extract, I have tried 7 times last night on 2.5k kits and have died every which way possible I am going to fucking strangle this worm
>>560216870the last controller i owned broke in 2021 sorry
listen I like to read about the ttk problems or how much of a comercial failure the game is and how we are all nazi chuds/woke nigger faggots for playing as much as the next guy, but can we focus the thread on what's important for once and post more vandal as a silly chibi creature? thanks
>>560216751lmao yea this is what I was talking about here >>560216816
>>560216870G is the grenade / utility button so presumably whatever you're pressing for that
>>560216983/our/ focus should be on one of the very few /mg/ trans anons that look cute.
>5 min matchmakingit begins
I have never seen a twin-tap HBR in mine or anyone else's hands, not even in footage.Does this thing even exist?
>>560216831Shut the fuck up, stupid nigger, way to completely miss the point
>>560217142Um Vandal has a fridge body
im bored and there is nothing to do, when is the next wipe?
>>560216705>none of her abilities matter in combat.You sure about that?
>>560216947I've been complaining about it non stop but everyone I talk to keeps trying to convince me about how the traxus rods contract is somehow 'way worse' and that there's totally nothing wrong with Dire Marsh>>560217128I've been having to deal with 5 min queues already on the OCE server almost every day now. Sucks when it gets late and the only way to get matches is to just rook queue
https://x.com/i/status/2032147279222546856Review bombing on metacritic is antisemitic.
>>560217071idk what any of that means>>560217142not quite what I had in mind, but I am not complaining, good stuff
>>560217217Why can't I down anyone that fast?
>>560217245This IS the biggest disconnect between steam reviews and metacritic user reviews in ages thoughbiet and it's obvious why
>>560216705I had people shoot the drone down
>>560217245why would you care about reviews from people who never played the game?
>>560217220>I've been having to deal with 5 min queues already on the OCE server almost every day now.It's been far faster than that during prime time for me.It's only slow in the very early morning or after like 1am.Of course that'll change to prime time being the only time you can even play soon enough, but that's the reality of any matchmaking based game on this fucking continent.
My *personal* weapon tierlist
Trying to build rep with MIDA is the fucking worst
>>560215594>the game is tdm with loadouts and shooting scripted AI from 2013 is only fun for a little while.you know what’s more fun? seeing so many rando teammates and other runners get absolutely bodied by some of the UESC bots, for all the song and dance about ‘AI is bad/incompetent, only runners are dangerous’ I see so many deaths caused by the AI
>>560217359It's different if it's harassing you compared to flying in a window before exploding
>>560217308Are you using bully?
>>560217561RUNNAH!
>>560217478I remember 15 years ago I used to play with a bunch of Aussie's in World of Warcraft and I never truly understood the shit they had to go through with latency until I had to move to Australia for a few years for my work. It's fucking garbage.
>>560217561Oi runna Now smash this fucking glassThat’s the wayShouldn’t Aussies be extinct in 2894 AD?
>>560217612Yes it's my go-to
>>560216751>play rook>see noone is around>hear noone around>call in supply drop>hide on the ramp above>claymore ready if anyone climbs the ladder>or runs in the hallway>hear quiet splashing>know that that water puddle does not make that noise>someone is hiding behind construction materials>peek a glimpse>see side of the rook>he knows i know he is there>i know he knows i am here>ping Friendly>then tell on mic "i know you are here. We can share the loot">i hump down>he starts crouching-standing thing>i say again "i am friendly, no need to shoot">i get shot>by a third rook>i yell "stop shooting, friendly here">he stops>they both start that up-down thing and noone is shooting anyone>three rooks and supply drop>i decide to let them have it because i need a whole different thing and dont want a firefight>mic "you guys can have it, NEGOTIATE, be good boys">leave and go do my thing>hear shots>lots of shots>omg retards are fighting over loot>come back there a few minutes later>one of them is dead right thereJesus Christ. Get some culture and a code of conduct FFS.
>>560217702Are you hitting headshots?
>>560217682They sent them all to Mars
>>560217562it's not actually that hard to make difficult ai, just program them to know where the player is at all times (trivial) and tune the numbers so they kill you before you can react. whether this is a measure of difficulty or just oblique game design is kind of missing the point, good ai is fun to shoot and be shot at, Marathon's ai is neither.
>>560217675Games like FPS just aren't playable at high ping so it's not even having to go through things with latency, its having games fucking die.It does make Americans melting down over player counts the most obscenely retarded shit though, because you faggots don't know how good you have it. And I'm not even talking about Marathon here.
>Arm cannon is supposed to be used as a quick way to make enemies fuck off so you can get away>TTK is so low you're lucky if you aren't dead during the start up animation>Also you need a core to negate the splash damage>Also you can't use it to grenade jump without a core>It's best usage is fully charging it and using it as a grenade which is easily fulfilled by bringing grenades
>>560217846>Arm cannon is supposed to be used as a quick way to make enemies fuck off so you can get away?Arm cannon is supposed to let you knock enemies out of cover so you can shoot them. It works on knocked down enemies too, for the execute.
>>560216816I do this because it's fun and who knows I might succeed and laugh my ass off
When do the new twitch drop activate?I want the pink cat thing badge sticker.
>>560217808This is the core of why arc succeeds in bringing in hundreds of thousands of people who would fucking never touch an extraction shooter. Fighting the Arc is an entertaining enough game in and of itself. Only someone who’s maybe never played a video game before would possibly be entertained shooting these lazily implemented crash test dummies
I extracted with another rook yesterday just fine. He had a knife out, I had a pistol. I was waiting inside the final exfil, he arrived with his knife out and didn't hit me so I didn't shoot him either.Love CAN bloom on the battlefield.Maratroonbros, we can turn this around. We don't have to be savages.
>give up and finally click the discord link in the hopes of finding any other australian to play with>invite dead
>>560218060they already went lool
>>560216751>2 minutes left on Outpost as rook>Activate the exfil point in dorms and head up to the 2nd floor for a vantage point>Spot another rook on the opposite balcony>"Hey, truce?">Shoots me in the head as I scramble to cover>Throws a grenade at me so I sprint into a nearby room and jump into a vent to heal up>I hear him getting shot at by another rook>I take the vent down to the 2nd floor and sneak into the exfil while they're duking it out>Post-exfil I see the perspective of the 3rd rook as he's picking at the remains of the prick that opened fire on meThat's what you fucking get
Pardon my ignorance, but why can't Australians queue with Europeans?
Has there ever been a game that successfully changed from paid to free to play? I really can't have this game dying
>>560217808Marathon's AI is good because it's relatively aggressive and good at being manipulated in terms of how they treat your last known position, both by you and your enemies.There can be goals to parts of a game beyond being fun directly in and of themselves. Marathon simply IS a PvP game and every part of its design points towards that.
>>560218419Overwatch
>>560218409Signals take time to travel around the world and high latency is problematic for playing multiplayer shooters smoothly.
>>560217764It genuinely ruins my day when I hear an a*stralian person speak I don't blame them
>>560217675It's such a shit place to provide telecoms services>major cities are all spread around the coast with 2000 miles between them>huge lot of nothing between them where it's not worth putting in infrastructure >1000 miles to nearest other country >closest places to get an undersea cable to are 3rd world
>>560218409after ww2 we embargoed them for birthing hitler and now they have completely separate internet kinda like north korea.
>>560218419For the most part, a game going f2p is kind of like a video game entering hospice. It really is only a matter of time before it dies.However, you do occasionally get some games like Overwatch that were able to go free to play and still survive.
>>560217742I'm trying but it's hard to tell, my aim is probably shit. I'm using a Razer Deathadder v2 mini on max sensitivity
>>560218745>max sensitivityxD
>>560218419Yes but f2p extraction shooter would be cheater heaven.An entry price is just mandatory for the genre to function at all.
>>560218542that pivot almost killed the game so hard that Rivals was seriously looking like a serious permanent replacement
>>560218647Well it helps that overwatch was already a massive success with a big install base. Marathon going f2p will be hard to see as anything other than desperate flailing
>muh rook xDEveryone has shotguns in the outpostThe fuck am I supposed to do
>>560218745you need 800 edpi to play FPS games. not one more nor one less.
>>560218419team fortress 2
Fuck it I might just buy this on ps5 too seems like it's more made for consoles
>>560218791Teach me senpai
>>560218818You could make it like 2-3 dollars to filter out cheaters since they're thirdworlders who dont have credit cards anyways.
>>560219062>20000 dpiSet it to 1/10 of that for the start.
>>560218745>I'm trying but it's hard to tellDouble lines on the hitmarker means a headshot
>>560219161But then turning around takes too long
>>560219128Primary consumer of cheats are entitled suburban westerners statistically
>>560219280You can move your arm faster.Lower sensitivity means more precision. The same movement taking more space means you literally just have to be less precise to make your shots; on high sens the tiniest error means you'll miss completely.
>>560218438>Marathon simply IS a PvP game and every part of its design points towards that>IS a PvP game>every part of its design points towards itNo, not even remotely.It is in a position where it exists as both PvP and a PvE game. You can play it as a PvP game, and it works like that. You can play it as a PvE game, and it works like that too. Issue is that on a fundamental level, both modes get in each other's way, especially PvP in PvE's.This game has an identity crisis, and worse still, actively induces cognitive dissonance.
>>560216816+50 arachne rep
>>560219549Huh ok I'm gonna have to rethink how I play completely. I always assumed you wanted less hand movement as possible for speed.
>>560219630>You can play it as a PvE gameThis very discussion was about how the PvE elements are not fun to fight on their own.
>>560219630the game clearly is designed pvp first with bots thrown in as noise traps, every BR does this too.
where does your conciousness go when you exfillsome satelite in orbit?all the way to earth?
>>560219962ship in orbit where your shell is re-woven
>>560219934Imagine if there were no risk of other players around, the game would be boring as fuck. The engine can only do what Destiny 2 can do, so I doubt any real open world type stuff is possible if you wanted to rework the game to be single player/PvE.
>>560219280>turning around takes too longDoes it tho? Also what the other guy said. Keep in mind adjusting from 20k will take months so I suggested starting with 2k maybe even 4k at first.
The performance is terrible desu lads.Playing with 70fps with settings so ugly i struggle to see ennemies makes me mad af.
>>560220201works on my pc don't blame the game when your pc is trash.
>>560220143Guides are saying it should be 25-45cm of movement to do a 360 but that seems insane to me, my desk isn't big enough lol
>>560220284ryzen 3600 / ayyymd 6600 / 16 gb ram / ssdEverything low 1920*1080 resShould i put the game in lower res?
>>560220284retard faggot i will kill you
>>560220012That’s retarded why would the UESC not just blow it up
>>560220395>ryzen 3600the game is cpu bottlenecked you're on 7yo budget cpu. What the fuck did you expect? Nothing you can do about that.
>>560219659I mean, move your arm across your desk. It's not exactly slow. Meanwhile missing your shots is a huge problem even if you're doing it fast. The mouse is just already fast and there's more risk on the aiming side of things than the speed side of things.Generally one of the best ways to improve your aim is to slowly dial down your sensitivity, so that it feels low but not so low you can't aim at all. Over time you'll learn to adjust and get it lower and lower, and you WILL find you hit more shots. You do want to be able to comfortably do a 180 with one "movement" though, whatever that feels like to you, so don't go overboard.For the record the standard practice for pro play in high aim requirement games is to shift entirely to the arm for aiming and using a huge mousepad, rather than aiming with the wrist. I don't know that I'd suggest jumping straight to this, but it's an example of how far the principle goes.If you REALLY care about speed, there is a niche tactic involving custom mouse acceleration curves (not just turning on pointer precision in windows, which should always be off) so that turning and flicking is fast but you still have very precise aim for tracking. This is how you get results like that catgirl vtuber which washed up dads were convinced was cheating in BF6 (it was very obviously not cheating if you knew what to look for). Generally CS pros don't fuck with acceleration so it's probably not actually better, but it's an option.
>>560219849>are not fun to fight on their ownThey are not fun to you because you have preferences that this game doesnt meet. Fun is a subjective term. For example, i find System Shock to be fun, and thus this game's PvE is fun for me. We are not the same, anon.
>>560220564Anon this game DOES meet my preferences. I like the AI in this game, I just don't think they'd be engaging on their own because the act of actually fighting them is just dumping rounds into the head.
>>560220551>like that catgirl vtuber which washed up dads were convinced was cheating in BF6My nigger that guy got multiple bans on his other accounts and in different games for cheating. He was 100% cheating.
>>560220651>just don't think they'd be engaging on their own because the act of actually fighting them is just dumping rounds into the headWorks for me. Have you tried fighting them with a knife? Or have you tried fighting scouts out in the open? Or the scout commander? They are engaging enough.
>>560220395Game's CPU requirement is really just higher than most in practice.I'm on a 6600 XT and a 5800X, and I'm playing at 70FPS with acceptable settings on 1440p.3600 was a legendary CPU but it IS a lower-end CPU from 7 years ago now.
>>560220090Tiger is so decrepit as an engine these days and yet Marathon still chugs like a dog despite no lumen or RTX.
PVP PVP PVP PVP PVP PVP PVP PVP…I just can’t do it no more, Sisters, I can’t take being raped in space no more
>>560220747Then he cheated in other games. The BF6 footage was simply just not actually locking on to enemies at all and plenty of normal human minor errors were made constantly that wouldn't be there if it was an actual aimlock.You can literally just see that it isn't cheats. With your eyes.
>>560220837>>560220509Fuck me.tfw poor
>>560220892You prefer getting raped by your uncle on Earth instead?
>>560220551Yeah im gonna have to relearn aiming i guess, I just use my wrist hanging off a foam ergonomic support like I'm doing spreadsheets, max sens so I don't have to move it much.
>>560220972>he cheated in other games>is friends with known cheaters>has multiple bf6 accounts >guys he totally didn't cheat this one timeYou realize cheats can be adjusted right? Not every cheat is perfect spin bot. Your argument is like saying you can bench 160kgs naturally so everyone who benches that is natural.
>>560220842It's really shitly made. I have a i3-13100 and 4060. Cpu 90% and gpu 40% in Mara. Now it's a shit cpu yes but most new games the gpu is working hard not the cpu. What would the cpu even need to do for this game?
>>560221197>What would the cpu even need to do for this game?I assume anti cheat
>>560221048at least I get a kiss and a cuddle after it instead of some squeaky PC child yelling into his mic
>>560221197probably some unbound LoD setting some software engineer decided is totally necessary
>15 minutes rook runs for 1k rewardI don't think I can take this anymore
>>560220471because runners are mercenaries on contract with sekgen and cyberacmea big part of the story is that the major players like uesc, traxus, cyac, etc want to avoid major conflict between each other so they opt to use runners as "outside contractors" to do their work for themblowing up the ship would mean attacking cyac and sekgen directly which they dont want to do, so they just focus on killing the individual runner shells
>>560212328>>560212529>who isWhite Rook>>560213681>>knife OP>>560217142
>>560221178>You realize cheats can be adjusted right? Not every cheat is perfect spin bot. I don't assume anybody was retarded enough to claim it was a 00's style literal aimbot. The argument was that it was an aimlock key, which consistently draws your mouse onto the target when held. The footage just clearly doesn't have this and you can see normal human shit that disproves it in the footage, like a human-like reaction delay on adjustments that can't be easily mimicked by software.This is something that anyone even vaguely familiar with decent aim or competitive FPS could immediately spot within seconds. EVERY single authoritative source could dismiss it immediately for a fucking reason. It's hard to get a positive confirmation on decent aimlock usage but it can be very easy to tell when it definitely isn't there.
>>560221538Stop playing so carefully on a free kit
Thief's diaper!
I think I’ve figured the genre out a bit. As soon as you’ve got relatively good loot, just get out. In previous runs, I was always pushing the time to do events and find “one more thing”, but the name of the game is to actually cut and run, sometimes even when coming up against a team in the first three minutes. You’ll have more resources from that to do that same quest next run.
>>560221767If I don't play carefuly then it's going to be a 2 minutes run for 0k rewards
>>560221538brotip take rook to outpost and check the pinwheel entrance every time, a lot of the time it will be open and you spawn late in the match so there wont be too many people there but still a lot of good shit leftrun in there vacuum up a bunch of stuff and leave
>>560221538>rook on maps that aren't outpostBut why?No reason to do it on another map if your goal is just money instead of trying to jump teams.
>>560221887i do it to farm ez upgrade materials like biomass from algae ponds
>just played for four hours straightThe vault grind is dangerously addictive.
>>560221887>>rook on maps that aren't outpost>But why?I don't care about money or loot
>mida quest to set up cameras in outpost conference rooms>this is the recordingso there are human people on the planet then? Where are they?
If Bungie wants to pay Sony back, Vandals need to start a sex service bros
>>560221995nta but I personally found that upgrade materials were usually cleaned out when I did rook on the first two maps, it was usually just vendor trash and unwanted weapon leftovers that I found
>>560222249There are so many plot threads in the game
If Bungie wants to pay Sony back, they need to take a note from Japan and make electric onaholes themed after Vandal, Thief and Recon that come with codes for in-game rewards
>>560222249It's just humans remotely piloting bots.
I’m level 35 and I’ve only done like 4 main quests and unlocked two sponsors
>>560221714faggots like this make rook look bad and get kos
>>560222621If you don't make X look bad, you are playing the game wrong.
>>560184548Nice body, but I really hate that style of anime weapons.
this game has a lot of fanart for something nobody is playing
>>560222621hate to break it to you, but all rooks are kos no matter what. everyone is.
>>560222313id rather bang a thief shell tbqh
recon is so lucky, she gets all the girls...
>>560222080>>560221995Okay but the guy was complaining about money.There are reasons for rook elsewhere but outpost is where the money is.
>>560223093In-game models look so ugly compared to the trailer.
>>560222621Friendly_Cooperate? _Friendly_
>>560223093BWxWWxAW
Over 30 hours and I've only used recon. I think it's made me better at the game having no mobility
>>560222920and no porn
I am going to force myself to get better in solos.the first step is to stop playing Assassin, I feel like I'm crutching too much on him with smokes, I need to play Destroyer or something to really push myself to aim better and position better.
>thought about buying the game today>know logically that the game probably has like 6-10 months of being online and maybe I'll get 2 months of fun out of the game>would enjoy the PvP I expect and I do enjoy extraction shooters >don't give a single fuck about GaaS bullshit >nature of the game means I'm already massively behind as it is>know that trios is going to be an absolute nightmare to play in europei yearn to spill blood and ruin people's runs and days and murder but man
>random trio>guy chatting about how he’s excitedly building up his best stuff for CryoKind of wholesome, between killing grey kits and making them swear off the game.
>>560223269Will atleast force you to git gud on positioning and map awareness. You could play like a complete retard on some of the other shells, but play like shit on Recon and you'll thrown in the dumpster real fast.
>>560223534>nature of the game means I'm already massively behind as it isMarathon does a good job of preventing this.You spend and lose gear much more rapidly than in other games, even good players do free kit runs. Upgrades also don't affect weapon DPS so you don't get a tarkov situation where you just can't kill people.
>>560220143>monthsuhh ok? I can literally double or half my sensitivity and get used to it after 3-4 hours. humans do not need months to get used to a new sens.also the best sens in this game is somewhere around 800 dpi 10-12 sens.
>>560220090>Imagine if there were no risk of other players aroundSo? Enjoy the the est of the game. Still have to do story contracts, still have to dealwith UESC who can own you if you are reckless, still have to grind upgrades. There is much more to this game than just PvP. Sure, it give it a spice, but that one is highly subjective - some like it, some dont.
>>560223831>some like it, some dont.Not everyone should like every type of game, niglet monkey chimp
I’ve started to really enjoy listening to codecs and cutscenes after runs. It has this downtime effect where you’re piecing together stuff like a detective after stupidly tense trio fights. All the other extraction games were missing this.
>>560220090>>560220842>decrepidLooks fine to me, much better than STALKER 2 or anything on UE5.
>>560223534>nature of the game means I'm already massively behind as it isthis is why resets exist
>>560223093where are their cocks
>>560222080>rook on maps that aren't outpostTo get those collectibles to read story bits.Read Cheeseburger entries 4 and 5.
>load in with my sponsor kit>other two teammates have blue shields and nice weapons>spend the next two minutes following them and shooting into the sky to draw other runnersyep, its gaming time, if they want PvP I will give them PvP
>>560221714>Assassin's first thought is his crutch smoke>Turns his back on someone chasing himThat has nothing to do with knifing being OP
>>560222621>KOSbro this ain't DayZ in 2012
>>560205384i love being team wiped the first 3 mins of every game. its really fun. im really happy i bought this game and gave it a chance.
>>560224098based
Griefing will make me God
>>560223915>niglet monkey chimpApply to yourself.
>>560212897>He's dogshit You've fallen into the trap of using the shield defensively instead of preemptively. It's not a panic button, your thrusters are better for that and you should be bunny hopping more.The shield stops all damage, doesn't matter if its ranged or melee and it doesn't degrade like a bot shield does. This is what makes the class S tier. If you're unsure where the enemy is, instead of exposing yourself you can have your shield up while looking for them. You're the best point man in the game because of this. Just being able to safely observe your surroundings with there is a call out for enemy runners is huge, you don't have to stick your neck out and risk getting downed like other runners. The shield can be used to tank bots.The shield can be mobile cover for your team, having a safe spot in an extract saves runs.You can run and thruster sprint with the shield out, making it the most aggressive class for pushes.You can use the shield to move between pieces of cover in a fire fight, if youre in a bad spot and you need to reposition, the only other class that comes close to this ability is assassin.The shield is wide enough to completely block doorways and stairwells. Multiple times now I've effectively locked people in rooms or stopped flanks through body blocking with a shield up. If your shields get cracked you can shield yourself while you wait for the recharge to kick in, you don't have to hide behind cover and completely blind yourself to whats happening like other runners. Thrusters can be used to reposition in a hurry. They are great if you're being shot when far from cover or If you're looking to nail some one with a melee or shot gun. You can thrust past people or thrust left or right of them to completely throw off their aim, This kills the console fag. Stack melee dmg and punch bots/players to death with chipmods and runner cores.Your rocket pods are immediately ending PvE encounters.
>yesterday lost 7 runs in a row>today 90% exfil rateI wonder if the game uses some sort of SBMM/EOMM. It feels like every time I take in good loot, we do well.
>>560224501if youre solo playing rook and being the spoiler is really the best way to play
>play rook on outpost>get 2 red keycards>5 mins left>alright i'll head to pinwheel>both doors lockedHOW DO YOU SPEND 20 MINUTES AND NOT OPEN PINWHEEL
Jannies on /v/ keep saging my thread because I'm not 100% glazing Marathon. For the record I do really like the aesthetic of the game, I just wish they toned it down because it gave me motion sickness. That being said...>Would Marathon be considered a flop or a failure if it were made by a no-name indie or AA studio with zero reputation or continued existence on the line? >Would it's flaws be excusable to gamers at large if the above was true?Personally I think it's likely. As it stands, there is far too much ill will from Destiny fans and other fans of other Bungie series on top of the $3.7B aquisition and $200M+ development budget plus god knows how much spent on marketing. IMO I kinda wish the character designs didn't feel so bland and uninspired yet overdesigned and ugly, but again, that's purely my opinion on the matter.
>>560224779Players panic when you push them with the shield up. It invalidates the quick TTk when you push with another squad member on one person too. I’ve had instances where someone’s hiding, I put the shield up, they fire on me in a panic, then the rest of the team cleans up.
>>560224995Or you just weren't at your best yesterday? It's possible to go on a losing streak for sure. Maybe you sat in a bit of a bad spot, got domed in Dire Marsh or otherwise just botched a play?
>>560224779doesnt destroyer also have higher base melee damage?and how do the rocket pods....work? I played destroyer once and unsure how they fire
its kind of frustrating the amount of random events/locked rooms with passkeys that you are incredibly unlikely to findlike the shitty tox event, how many times do you think somebody's actually managed to do those?
>>560225089>Jannies on /v/ keep saging my threadEh? What, like, post gets deleted or made not visible?
>>560225089Yes and yes. Bungie is perceived as le woke so people want them to fail at every turn, and Sony's displeasure with them is no secret.
>>560225359>try to have actual discussion on the game and it's perceived flaws to the general gaming population>jannies immediately slap a sage on it so no replies can bump the thread so it dieshonestly a shame
>>560225219>and how do the rocket pods....work? I played destroyer once and unsure how they fireActivate the ability with Q, shoot at your enemy like normal and rockets start flying to their position. It's quite risky indoors, but it can be very good if you can launch them from unexpectable angles or in open spaces at mid-range.
>>560225341>toxDont need the key, have patch kit + advenaced mechanic's kit and some mechanic's kits. Pop AMK, go in pop patch kit, loot, keep an eye on health bar, exit, pop MK. Also, you can get hazard resistance upgrades and thus have even more resistance.Keep in mind that upgrades from faction trees DO NOT APPLY to Rook, only capstones.
>>560225424Bungie helps no one by putting pronouns on their vidocs.
>>560225424I'm retarded, I meant no and yes
>>560225341I don't know what you're supposed to do. I went in there and grab some unstable biomass and then I nearly died and haven't gone in there since.
>>560225438Damn, that is a shame. Blame deranged from grief D2 players, bandwagoning retards and maga cultists.
>>560225521oh I see, so it kinda works like those neomuna weapons in D2 with the smart rockets
>>560225740I don't think it's any of those, I think the jannies on /v/ are pro-marathon so they just see any perceived negativity real or not and slap a sage on it
>>560225874I think the jannies are just removing marathon threads in general for the time being because of the shitty discourse
>>560225438The problem was probably unironically that you were trying to actually discuss it instead of just mindlessly post steam charts
>>560225341Tox key is pretty common unlike the room ones which honestly feel bugged in rarity.I've done multiple tox rooms myself with the key and a couple more by healing / mechanics kitting through it
>>560226158>>560225964Yeah but they outright prune a lot of the steam chart and hate threads, yet mine got saged for asking an actual question and looking for discussion
>>560225874Most of the discourse from people who don’t like the game is just culture wars shit.
Might start sniping streamers tbdesuNot a more entitled and self important group on the planet.
>ALROIGHT RUNNAH>YOU WANNA BE A PAW O MOIDAH>TAKE A SHIT IN THE PRINCIPALS OFFICE>LEAVE YOUR MARK
>>560225219>doesnt destroyer also have higher base melee damage?Yes, but you need to keep increasing it. Since health is on a sliding scale thanks to how the shields work, you'll have to keep up in that regard too.>and how do the rocket pods....work? I played destroyer once and unsure how they fireThe rockets are located on your left and right shoulder, it's important to keep this in mind because you can kill yourself if your peaking cover or are too close to cover. as this anon points out: >>560225521I believe it's every 3rd successful hit from your gun launches a salvo of rockets, but there is also some kind of internal cool down so you cant just have a high rate of fire weapon sending out a stream of rockets. Still, you benefit from weapons with a high rate of fire, a large magazine capacity, and a quick reload.Weapons like a sniper rifle work just fine on destroyer, but don't lend themselves to your rocket pods. Destroyer also really loves having a shotgun, which also doesn't lend itself to the rocket pods since they are low RoF and the rocket splash dmg can kill you. You'll want to chipmod Assault rifles, SMGs, and DMRs to support what your doing on any given map as a result, your going to need a shot gun and a weapon thats a bit of an all comers. Either that or stay the fuck away from buildings and bring an SMG with something like a sniper rifle.
>>560225740Shut up faggot, Bungie decided they wanted to go all in, full blast on loving trannies, queers and niggers They fully asked for any hate they or the products they put out get when they openly decided to pick a side, and the faggot side at that. should of just shut the fuck up and focused on making the video games better instead
>>560227241If it makes you feel any better, I'm working on a game with a similar art style but toned down because I can't play marathon without getting motionship but am a sucker for 90s rave-style graphic poster design
>>560227241I'm tired of the culture war boss, i just want to play video games.
>>560209818Vandal will let you outrun every fight with her prime ability. Thief will let you bait players/teams toward each other with her drone. Assassin will let you be boring.
>>560227241>should of every time
>>560227512>motionship*motion sicksorry
>>560227241EA also does all that and Apex has the worst art style and character design I’ve seen and is still massively popular. People aren’t as interested in a PvP focused extraction shooter as they are a casual friendly game like Destiny. The PvP was the least popular part of destiny 2 so it is crazy they tried to focus on that market.
>>560227241World is burning and all you can think is trannies and culture war dogshit like it's the most important evil currently right now in the world. Seriously, man, grow up.
This game is just apex with extra steps
>>560227812I mean, to be fair those are all symptoms but not the cause
>>560227839It's nothing like Apex
>>560227839I felt more like it was Destiny with a giant obese woman taking a huge bite out of it like it was a cake intended for 8 people but can now only feed 1, maybe 2 people. Personally I felt the game was a bit too clunky with inconsistent TTK and just kinda felt like a worse Destiny. Looked interesting though.
Is solo easier than squad fills? I feel like randoms suck ass
>have to go take a shit>go afk in some house>hear shooting for like a minute>hear a n*gger on proximity chat rage about me being a camper for like 30 secondslol this was some shadow boxing type ahh shit
>>560215536If you’re dying to players with better gear than you, it’s because your positioning and equipment usage is worse
>>560228174fill is roll the dice.solo is always kinda...
>>560228027Its a low ttk hero ability br with pathfinder crypto ash sparrow kits for the heroes. Thief is literally pathfinder+crypto
anyone else in NA getting some bad lag? i played a rook game a few minutes ago and it was really hard to loot anything
>>560227634Yeah exactly, then Bungie never should of joined it
Feeling mentally unwellWhen is the sale? I'm a poorfag.
>>560228297>>have to go take a shit in my diaperThief main...
>>560209818>I don't want to get in gunfights. I just want their shit :)Thief can literally steal all of a player's best loot without fighting them.
ReinstallingThis game is so so so enticing, it makes you want to play itI have gone insane from losing all my shit, time to make Snake proudASSASSINNO GUNS, NO GEAR, NO MEDSONLY KNIFEON SITE PROCUREMENT
The pfhor runners...
>bubgie pleeez raise ttkYou guys realize that in a week everyone will be using blue and purple shields exclusively right? This will raise TTK
>>560227241>colours and robots = bad>pick a sideHave your parents provided adequate nutrition and healthcare for you? Did they drop you on your head a few times? Were you born stupid or did you work hard to become so?Dont bother answering those questions or replying to the post.
>>560227634Then end it. Its not stopping till you grind dey culcha out of reality
>>560228921very good
>>560229045My mom left me unattended on a counter top when I was a baby and I fell off and hit my head on the ground so ive always been fucked up with rage and anxiety which I assume stems from having my life threatened by my own shit mom
>>560228921Yes, it is enticing. I want to play it... without other players being involved.>assassin so Jensen's voice and active camo>sneaking around with just knife and silenced pistolDeus Ex: Marathon.This game shouldve' been an ImmSim with multiplayer tacked on just like original Deus Ex.
>>560228297stop being so far jesus christ
>>560227812World is burning and trannies still can’t figure out if they’re a boy or a girl or what bathroom they're supposed to use but maybe if we import an additional million niggers they can help they/them figure that out and then they all can help me and then together we’ll put out the fire
>>560228857get a job retard
>>560229371>corporations are fucking up your wallet, your brain, your life>politicians are fucking up economy and nation>yet it is somehow trannies who are at faultI guess now i know what its like to be a moron - you are a very nice example of one.
I wish there was a mode that let me explored the maps just to do little aim trials or mob fighting. Untimed and just able to freely bumble around without worrying
>Marathon Map probably not dropping until the end of the month or or early next>Cracked the latest ARG part and we now have to wait until the 15th to continue it
>>560229271He doesn't sound so Adam during his select shell voice but in gameplay it kinda works out the same. I recognize you imsim poster and i agree with this and the previous posts. My time sneaking around as Rook in pinwheel is the preview of what stealth in this game would be in a campaign. So stressful but so good.
>>560229371I hate to be the bearer of good news, but this game that you think is woke actually isn't.>but bungie is woke!Okay. Good thing Marathon isn't.
>>560229739thats basically what rook is
>>560229626Obligatory
HELPSOLO OR FILL SQUADS?
>>560230025both have their drawbackssolo you get freedom but you also are very vulnerable to getting shot in the back at any point and your run endingfills you're a babysitter for your squad
>>560229045I never said a thing about colors and robots you disingenuous rat. Bungie shoves gay and trans pride stuff in their games, makes big community posts about pride and trans at bungie, goes out of their way as an entity to donate to LGBTQ groups and research on digitally simulating nappy hair better. They wanna pick an overt political/cultural side and that only invites people on the opposite side to take their swing. The only buffer they have against this is by making their games good and unfortunately their shit is mediocre.
>>560230264this is what happens when a healthy pregnant woman takes too much tylenol
escape will make me purr
>>560227512I hope the development goes well for you and it’s a fun game
>>560229083Anon, im in my 40s now. I spent my 30s fighting the good fight. I hated the female ghost busters just like the next chud. The reality is I only have a little time left to actually enjoy shit. In another 10 years I'll be 50, you know a lot of 50 year gamers who can still land a 360 no scope? Slug it out on social media all you want, but i've done my time in service, its your turn now.
So the cryo thing is just not ready? Is that why we have to wait for the end of the month?
>>560229786FuuuuckI just got over wishing Marathon had a singleplayer and you're making it sound cool again
>>560229991Genuinely kill yourself
>>560230730I didn't have the /v/ edited one on hand.
OH FUCK THE MARATHON TOURNAMENT IS TOMORROWEVERYONE GET HYPED
>>560230658It was in the beta or alpha or whatever. The map is done they're just time gating it for engagement.
>>560230576cute dog
>play with randoms>two dudes having a conversation>talk about some bitch they work with being a total slut>they call her a hypocrite for being mad at them for sleeping around at the office >mostly tune the rest of it out>they are making dick jokes constantly >suddenly they start talking to me>”yo it doesn’t bother you that we’re gay does it?”>tell them I won’t throw stones>they immediately ask if I have a boyfriend >tell them no I have a girlfriend of 10 months and she’s great>they start asking about our sex lifeWhy are gays so creepy?
>>560229885Anon your reading comprehension is slipping, I mean untimed as in no timer at all. Not rook, which is definitely timed.
>>560230869cant wait to buy the jacket off ebay
Being gay will make me God
>>560230376Sure thing faggot, enjoy your ugly game made by ugly people
>>560231090blasphemy
It just occurred to me the marathon keys people have been finding might be tied to the level of loot dropped.
>sub 60k 24h peakIt’s so over….
>>560230576escape will make me stop getting camped
>>560230869Shroud, celebrated Millionaire, would win THE JACKET??Find out... TOMORROW!
I want a thief skin of pic related
>>560230987well they say the mind degrades a little bit every time the shell dies
>>560229739Just a shooting range/training mode simulation would go far. As much as i'm down with going into the thick of things and trying stuff out learning something like the two charge modes on V66 or railgun timings, i'd rather have a place where i can make mistakes without losing shit. Just have the factions provide an armory where you can test a bunch of shit on simulated UESC and that's done. They could do it in Destiny, they sure as hell can do it for Marathon.
>>560229810Be sure to purchase the trans pride stickers and shell skins when they release
>>560230983>Why are gays so creepy?Limited pool of partners leads to oversexualization within their group to compensate which leads to generally being more sex obsessed
>>560231313Looks bit too chinese for my tastes. Not racist. Just don't like em.
>>560229991>polBlame moot.>>560230730No, YOU kill yourself. Go join russians, they love people like you.
>>560231407>i'd rather have a place where i can make mistakes without losing shitliterally sponsored kits retard
>>560230869I hate streamers and I hope they all die.
>>560231397hardy har.>>560231407I mean a range and little challenge mode to explore the maps with being able to farm some faction xp on the side would be nice
>>560231407>take free kit>waltz around the map without any pressure whatsoever
>>560231468>not racist, I'm just racist
>>560231614You lose time and sanity by playing free shits.
>>560229626You can just say you’re a bum tumbling faggot
So, i found a bot. In Marathon. Actual Bot and bot profile that is a steam account set to private.
>>560231676lurk more
>>560231814Activate your Windows.
>>560231468God you're so cringe Anon
>>560231468Could be worse
>>560227789Apex is popular because its the mechanically the goat shooter. Nothing else feels like an extension of your body like apex does
>>560231301
>>560231814Take your meds schizo
>>560231814>rezero avatar>lindowI don't think that guy is a bot but normalfag weebs might as well be, lol
>>560230652My last boss was 93 and he was still getting bjs lol life doesn't end unless you let it
Just so you know you can family share this game
>>560232036>wants me to take my meds >wont even wrap them in Kraft American Singles?????
>>560231614>>560231675Show me the free kits that come with a railgun or V66, genius? I was talking about having a place where you have all the guns around to just test on targets and test them out without any pressure, same as learning about their intrinsic qualities without attachments. The free kits provide guns from what is essentially only 1/4th of the pool, even if you can get familiar with those you'll still have quite the work ahead on the other end of the gun spectrum on the rarer ones like Mida, Zeus and HAR, etc. As much as i appreciate learning about them from acquiring them as loot, it becomes a pain in the ass to make informed choices against guns you've never seen or know nothing about so having a place where you have most of that knowledge available is nothing but a net positive. Even Tarkov has a shooting range ffs.
>>560232087>laying back and staying awake just long enough to finish an orgasm>this is the same as the motor skill and cognitive functions needed to land head shotsThanks for trying to cheer me up anon.
>>560232314Niggas 93
>>560231629Good man
>>560232196tau ceti iv is the training area
>don't be looking in the direction that a team happens to be approaching your POI from at that exact moment>diefun gameplay loop desu I dunno why this didn't end up being the new destiny
>>560232196>The free kits provide guns from what is essentially only 1/4th of the poolThose free kits are the base line for the majority of weapons.An over run isnt much different from any other assault rifle, a bully isnt much different from any other SMG, and so on.I appreciate that you want some kind of pve range to test shit, it would be nice, but also I think you have gear fear. There is nothing in this game you cant replace, just take it for a live fire test run and dont sweat it.
Why are we on tau cutie iv and not the Marathon again ?
>>560232314It’s probably more impressive that he can maintain an erection at that age. Though one might wonder how anon knows that. Maybe best not to ask.
>do anything other than camping and slithering in between bushes>diewelcome to Marathon white boi
>>560232578> tau cutieno u
>>560232583Because one of the waitresses was blowing him you sheltered twat
>can look up people's profiles after a matchJesus Christ save me. Those are the people i play with? I was right to stay the fuck away from multiplayer games. Christ.
>>560232747look, i told you we shouldnt pick that fight, but you knew better of course
If I want to get better at shooting and aiming, should I just constantly be loading solos with free kits and going towards footsteps and noise no matter what? Just give up on extraction until my skills are better?
>>560232830You are not my wife.
>>560232895Play a real fps that actually lets you play the game. Anything other than extractors basically. Cs, Quake, Warframe, etc.
>>560232747>Only console players can decide to only play with other console players>Steam players have no option to only play with other Steam players.
my first run as assassin knife onlyi got some good loot killed one guy and my heart is still pounding got killed by another, too greedydoes solos or no fill send you to teams, i was fighting against two guys working together?
>>560232895Focus on getting kills as rook. You will either learn to ambush and kill people with better guns and shields by having better aim and positioning. Or you will die. In which case you can queue immediately and try again
>>560232560>An over run isnt much different from any other assault rifleAre you having a fucking laugh mate? Not only do most Overrun setups not give it much range beyond 30m in comparison M77 does not accept optics because it has a split ironsight/optic, it also deals noticeably more damage and can still hit reliably up to 50m without much of a drop off. H-AR can easily tap you from anywhere between 60-80m without much of an issue depending on optics. SCAR also has homing bullets and becomes noticeably more dangerous when wielded by a Triage. All of these fucking things matter and the only way you learn about that shit is already losing to the weapon or getting one in your hands and then fumbling with issues that could have been fixed by getting a chance for some extended practice in an environment that let's you actually fire the gun without the half the map knowing your shooting UESC.
>>560233148solos play against solosonly rooks get matched with trios
>>560232724Just remember you have to see that waitress every day when you look in the mirror anon
>>560233098Institutionalized racism. PC gamers most oppressed race.
>>560233148the audio in this game is good though, i got the drop on him just the wrong weapon
>>560233098I would rather play with the gayest faggot on the planet than someone retarded enough to still be playing on console in 2026
>>560232560>An over run isnt much different from any other assault rifle, a bully isnt much different from any other SMG, and so on.Pretty ironic that you're out here telling us there's no need to add a mode that lets you learn more about the different guns and how they work while you have absolutely no idea about the differences between guns and how they work
>>560232560Alright calm down a little. The overrun isn't bad but it's definitely worse than the other ARs. I mean it is the budget gun... It's 100 creds for a gray.
Playing on console will make me God.
only tranny anons put the three dots in the middle of at the end of their sentences...
>>560227241game is good stop being a dickhead and enjoy shit from time to time when it's actually good. This game is the first good AAA multiplayer game in close to a decade.
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>>560233567we do that a lot over in /fgg/ too, and were all straight as an arrow...
>>560232130Yeah but we cant play at the same time right? So what’s the point?
>>560230652nigga look at starcraft broodwar. the top players are still the same guys 20 years later. BoxeR is forty fucking five and he can still maintain an apm above 400, blowing the fuck out of players half his age.
>>560233567why... what's wrong with signalling a pause...?
>>560232986>warframe>fps>has a mode with extractors in it
>>560233631I look like this
Bald Lion: BungieMissing Hair: Marathon playerbase
>>560233567Anon I…
>>560233792I mean it's a much better game to learn how to aim and shoot people than Marathon.
>>560233287An attempt was made
you people need to stop running free kitsunless you are absolutely broke you lose so much from free kittinga grey rifle and a gun are 150 and you get a sidearm to swap during a fightfor 100 you can bring a smoke and it makes exfils 100 times more reliable>b-but no healsfree kit gives you depleted you get depleted just by scavenging the outskirts of the map
>>560233826*** ******* "humour" ladies and gents...
>>560234026Thief when she sees big veiny ambusher cock
>>560233630I’m sorry you have such low standards
>>560234009Valid for CyAc free kits but otherwise I'd rather have an actually decent gun than an overrun + CE tactical.Relying on RNG for heals also kind of sucks.
Nice shield
>>560234009The other issue is obviously just agency. If you're grabbing kits that generally only have specifically one-dimensional options, you're not really curating on how you'll approach the map or objectives. Dire Marsh really benefits from having a weapon with range, other maps might make shotgun or SMGs an investment. The free daily sponsor kits never give you those options and the only reason i would have for using them all the time would be in a state of absolute poverty situation in the vault. Even that can largely be rectified by playing Rook, so making atleast a greenish/mixed gray loadout with a small investment is already a huge step up from dropping in as a Sponsor hero.
>>560233674cheating
>>560234026Diaper queen seeing a sale on diapers.
>>560234308there's a melee button?? what is it??
>>560234486C
>>560234390Oh right. Yeah I remember that was pretty big issue with dark souls pvp.
So is this dude a destroyer shell or what now
>>560234390That pvevp mode in Destiny was so awful. It was fun for half a day before people figured out how to break it
>>560234552he was sent to the future by durandel, we're gonna have to kill him during cryo archive
>>560234552no? he's not even a shell, he's a cyborg and at the time of the game I really don't know where he might be, maybe fighting p'hor on some ship in the other side of the system who knows
>Things I've been reading on JP/KN Twitter and CN socials about Marathon>Wearing the faction colors with corresponding thematic weapons related to said factions improves their handling and ADS (Free Kits are the hint that suggest you do this) this also includes weapon stickers as well (data shows that it's minuscule uptick in Reload and ADS, faction AI stickers give out the most benefit)>The game is counting your vault value as well as present kit value when assigning you matches in auto-fill and solo play. The best way to remedy this is to uninstall all your weapon and mods from guns in the vault because higher-tiered weapons seem to be tossing people into the upper-end of other players who are using purple and yellow shields>Volt Weapons, even un-silenced are the least loudest weapons in the game; coupled with most UESC troops using volt weapons outside using Overruns and Shotties on occasion makes it hard for other players to determine what or who they're hearing>Going into the Cold Storage Room inside the cafeteria in the kitchens backroom, on Outpost; sitting in said Cold Storage Room for 30sec-ish nets you a Cow Sticker if you Exfil successfully but only if you hear the cow mooing when you open the door and stay in there (Im not joking, if you hear the moo its confirmation you stayed in there long enough) (not the cold storage truck outback, outside) At the same location, inside the kitchen opposite of the Cold Storage Room is a vending machine that can give you healing items or white/green salvage and on extremely rarely give you yellow items as well>The locked room above South Relay can sometimes be finagled with a Thiefs Drone by pressing it against the window and spamming the grabbie arm can sometimes grab the yellow items on the table>On Perimeter, and on the one side of the inflatable tunnel you can find the only human left in all three maps, or at least whats left of her. Uping your volume and going in and out of 10m can sometimes make her talk
Already can’t wait for the reset, Dire Marsh (night) is gonna be crazy!
Steam peaks since launch:Launch: 88k, ThursdayDay 1: 88k Friday Day 2: 78k, Saturday, 11% drop from maxDay 3: 77k, Sunday, 11% drop from maxDay 4: 71k, Monday, 20% drop from maxDay 5: 66k, Tuesday, 25% drop from maxDay 6: 62k, Wednesday, 30% drop from maxDay 7: 60k, Thursday, 32% drop from maxNo weekend spike, no Outpost spike, and I doubt Cryo will spike population or sales. There's nothing that can reverse the trend at this point, much less try to hit 100k. 'Insider' leaks are also reporting that Steam has the most players between all consoles and PC, wild. Memes aside, I actually really enjoy the game. Not worth 40 bucks and I can see it getting stale in 4 weeks max. It's insane that this is how Bungie decided to kill themselves as a studio and permanently tarnish their name and legacy.
>>560234934>data shows that it's minuscule uptick in Reload and ADSPost this data or you're full of shit
>>560234838What the fuck even are we?
>>560235014Cryo will go over 100k because Bungie will just buy bots and trick some people into checking it out, will probably remain over 100k for several weeks after with real players.
>>560232062Anon, i dont even know if i should be disgusted or terrified of the number of profiles like that. The worst thing about it is that they all have set a private mode, which allows them to do such shitposting, that under normal circumstances they would get their teeth kicked in. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people?Worse yet is if you discover that you are working with a shithead like that. He thinks noone knows about his shitposts, and there you are - being able to match profile to an actual living person. Its a fucking nightmare.
>>560235014>'Insider' leaks are also reporting that Steam has the most players between all consoles and PC, wild.I hope Sony decides to pull Marathon for sale and de-list it on Steam as part of their exiting PC strategy NO REFUNDS!
>>560235014>caring this muchyou don't own bungie, it's okay, you'll have interests of your own some day
>>560234934>>Wearing the faction colors with corresponding thematic weapons related to said factions improves their handling and ADS>debuff to deluxecucks0% chance this is true
>>560235081We'll see. I might spin up a website and scrap some data from Steam reviews (time played, type of review left, and purchase/play history) to see how much of the reviews are botted, as well.
Is it just me or does it seem like the shells are all pretty balanced? Like it’s probably best to have a triage on your team but I don’t think of anything as unfair. And that’s just being a medic conceptually.
>>560234934>It's real
>>560235014I'm actually a bit distraught that such an amazing presentation style is tied to a game that by its very nature is impermanent. I'm sad we won't get years of more output from the art teams. It's the most interesting looking AAA game in years and years and of course it flops so we will never get cool looking scifi again.
>>560235202It is why they told reviewers to hold off, though most did not. Those same reviewers will be paid and praise Bungie, that with the bots inflating numbers will have people giving Marathon a try to "spite the bad press". Just watch.
i cant think of a time where i had fun playin a game and i felt the need to tell people so much that thought the game sucked. in fact, i could hear their negatives and really try and see their point of view to see where they are coming fromi dont see the people thinkin this game is fine are coming from the right place.
>>560235081Cryo is not gonna be that exciting lol, it’s gonna be waves and waves of UESC bots and a compiler that floats and shoots a 1 shot energy blast.
>>560235310What the hell do you mean "most" reviewers didn't hold off, the game only has 9 reviews posted on metacritic and they're mostly from literal who publications
>>560234934>>Wearing the faction colors with corresponding thematic weapons related to said factions improves their handling and ADS (Free Kits are the hint that suggest you do this) this also includes weapon stickers as well (data shows that it's minuscule uptick in Reload and ADS, faction AI stickers give out the most benefit)>>The game is counting your vault value as well as present kit value when assigning you matches in auto-fill and solo play. The best way to remedy this is to uninstall all your weapon and mods from guns in the vault because higher-tiered weapons seem to be tossing people into the upper-end of other players who are using purple and yellow shieldswould be nice to test the stickers but WOW LOOK AT THAT, NO FIRING RANGE
Getting one tapped by snipers is not fun
>>560235375>npcs are bullet sponges>entire new map meant to farm 10/10 review scores is littered with npcsuh oh
>>560235442Scratch that, not 9, 5 reviews. For some reason there were previews counted on the summary.
>>560235484Just position you're self better
>>560235027Androids connected to "digitized human minds" via space wi-fi. The runners are most likely just copies of real human minds and the A.I's just kind of use us and print us as needed and tell us we are the original one's to not worry ;)
>>560230652The best fighting game players are mostly in their 40s.
>>56023501490% positive reviews on steam though
>>560235324It’s odd to me how difficult it is for people to look at the flaws in something they like. At least when it comes to a product like this that could very easily be changed
>>560235442They are posted on the respective websites, IGN has a "So Far" review which they say they will fully complete and release when Cryo hits. Again, this is how Bungie will get an uptick of players, because of all of these sites will finally release "Full" reviews and praise Bungie.
>>560235375>turn corner in dark hallway that flickers.>see a conga line of thisI wonder if they'll have the balls. I want to to be able to shit my pants. I only played outpost twice and I liked the atmosphere. I can hardly wait for claustrophobia on Marathon.
>>560235375My dream is that Bungie is going to release a bunch of aliens from the marathon ship in a flood-esque twist.>inb4 that won’t happenI CAN DREAM
>>560235310It's weird too because going by Closed Alpha and Beta testing and private invests for content creators; it's apparently only accessible ala the Marathon Cards you get which evidently is how it's shown to be done, somewhat, in the release cinematic.I don't know how they expect reviewers or dumbasses like Paul Tassi to get onto the Marathon when the Keycards themselves are only lootable from POI Events like fighting the yellow shielded Commander on Perimeter or doing all three Lockdown events on Dire Marsh
>>560235560Nah the npcs are paper tigers after the nerf you can knife down blows and only take a take a hit and purples go down in like 2-3 mags.Shotgun and assassin invis can clear out entire waves really fast with basically no risk
>>560235627I wouldn't be surprised if the server wipes are somehow tied to the lore as something like "yeah the A.I was running out of RAM keeping all those simulated humans running so they just flushed it.
>>560235750>>560235789Hivemind. Won’t happen though. That would be smart game design and this is Bungie
>>560235648and bungle is still fucking the game up by listening to the streamers that are living on another level of existence around playing videogames.who the fuck wants lower ttk to clutch 1v3s and louder gun sounds to find fights more easier? not gamer dads that's for fuckin sure.
>>560234934>Wearing the faction colors with corresponding thematic weapons related to said factions improves their handling and ADSInsanely based if true but I doubt it.>Volt Weapons, even un-silenced are the least loudest weapons in the gameThis is obviously not true and I don't know how you could play the game without noticing that you almost never hear far off volt shots. Volume might be louder but the sound does not carry further.>On Perimeter, and on the one side of the inflatable tunnel you can find the only human left in all three maps, or at least whats left of herI did find this. It's kinda weird, what with all the fungal growth and moths.Cool info though.
>>560235905Only the recruits, every other enemy is still tanky, especially those invisible ones, man fuck those guys, dread ever having to go to Hauler if I want the stupid mats needed to progress upgrades.
>>560235750It would be really good but they won’t, you’ll get one compiler as a boss and be happy
>>560235624>90% of crying about snipers is literally people running through 200m wide open fields or other extremely open sightlines.It's literally one of the easiest fates to avoid, it's even a similar situation with precision rifles too. You'll never fucking win a laning situation at medium-long distances with a <30m weapon.
>>560235750It'd be pretty cool, there's probably going to be at least one S'pht, there's one on the library screen of the game and you can see one floating around in the cinematic trailer.
>>560234934Seriously, that is fucked up. Not just fucked up, but beyond fucked up.>On Perimeter, and on the one side of the inflatable tunnel you can find the only human left in all three maps, or at least whats left of her. Uping your volume and going in and out of 10m can sometimes make her talkYou mean picrel?
>>560235014This is a pretty normal dropoff for a multiplayer game desu>>560235081>because Bungie will just buy botsThere has not been a single even vaguely confirmed case of intentional playercount bots on steam and if there was it'd be a fantastic way to get your company blacklisted from the store which is a literal monopoly on the market.
>>560236085>people running through 200m wide open fieldsOne word: Dire Marsh
>hiding in some random vent>destroyer shell walks in>punch the vent screen>kill until deadgame is fun
>>560235789A fun theory/idea people are tossing around, especially in lore circles is that we may actually be going underground to kill a sleeping god like in Pathways of Darkness, which in turn had zombies and mutants on top of the enemies from Marathon.All the codex entries revolving around the colonists turned into one of three, overall branches.>One group of colonists started worshiping the S'phit and something happened to them>Another group of colonists got their brains uploaded onto servers from Joy trying to rescue them (Joy is the Colonists AI that went rampit, you can find her codex entries on Outpost)>Lastly the last group went insane by mutating themselves/Umbrella Corp zombifiying themselves by eating and consuming infected food stuffs from NuCaloric (you find this out from NuCal themselves and MIDA Priority Contracts and a handful of codex entries from Perimeter and Dire Marsh)>Only human left, corpse or otherwise in all of the three maps we have access to looks vaguely similar to something from the Library
Camping vents will make me God
>>560235750>Cryo Archive is done and next season coming up.>UESC sends the heavy hitters and Pfhor appear in the PvE reinforcements lineup.Would be honestly gigabased.
>>560236204Yep!
>>560235624>>560236085Literally just opened a door for a cqc fight and the guys boyfriend was 10 feet away with a sniper in the hallway
can't help but wonder if the quests are actually a problem. marathon's more fun when you infil without any expectations, it's freeing. maybe some friction is needed and so quests apply frustration when they're failed.. but ignoring the quests is comfy..
HoHoHoD-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DOOT
>>560236305Dire Marsh still has plenty of places where you can avoid full sightlines. Weather can work to your advantage, you can route into areas like the AI Uplink underground, zigzag through Greenhouse or if coming in from the West, go through Quarantine or use the more wooded areas and catwalks near the maintenance lower level entry as cover. Even with thermals, a lot of situations can still be avoided very well, although there are a couple of areas with pressure points like the AI Uplink roof, Algae Pools roof and Intersection. I'm pretty sure countersniping will eventually catch on more too, so it's not like teams are completely powerless against it.
>>560236756The game applies inherent friction is the thing
>>560236756i think the problem is>all in one runeliminate that and the quests become a lot more palatable and way less stressful, especially when they have you wandering all over god's creation for half an hour just to finish
>>560236417Wait but that would turn the game into a 10/10 and save the player count. I don’t believe it simply because nothing good is supposed to happen
>>560208324>>560208363>>560208658>>560209682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HskxTjUrpwMhere's directors cut. Maybe it's easier to stomach
>>560236756Going by the audio changes Bungie seems like they want to make this a Hero Shooter/Battle Royale-esq game more than an Extraction Shooter so maybe they'll remove any and all things related to the PvE side of it in the future hopefully.
>>560236874>lucky enough to get to last area>lockdown
>>560236912>katanagatari ost in the big 26nice
>>560236838>plenty of places where you can avoid full sightlinesPeople don't want to bother with this because sneaking around is just not fun.They want action and get things done, whether it's pvp or pve.
>thief drone can steal from UESCuhhhhhhhhh can i steal gold loot from bosses?
>>560234308console babiesnot even once
>>560236756Really? I like having some concrete goal to somewhat focus on while in raid, but then maybe I'm too used to Tarkov
>>560237196Yes
>>560237142It's literally a pathing issue, not a sneaking one. Even then, if you're totally lazy Signal Jammers exist and then your Triage can snort some Cardio coke and you can run straight through any underbrush with a highly decreased chance of getting sniped.
>>560237247that's the most retarded thing i've ever heard. imagine killing a boss for a marathon key and it drops nothing because a thief drone stole all of the loot
>>560236886100% with you there, there's no evidence these things will ever be playable and or experienced by us but they are in the codexs though. For instance you find out by doing Sekiguchi Priority Contracts that the scientists contracted by NuCal created a symbiote like in Spider-Man and we inject it into ourselves for testing for Noona and most of the colonists who tested this crap were from Dire Marsh - combine that with NuCal employeed colonists mixing Tic meat into Liquid Burgers from the Liquid Burger codex entries you get on Perimeter and the other scientists from other codex entries starting to zombifiy and crave human flesh, let alone hearing whispers of dead realitivies asking them to dig underground.Like shit is absolutely fucked. Like, right now, if this game actually stays alfoat were like in the first half of a sci-fi horror movie like Event Horizon or something where we just entered onto the ship (Tau Ceti) and dont know why everyones gone
>>560236059The invisible ones die in 3 knife swings before they can even shoot back at you homie
>>560237393haha yeah well that's the game pussy. dont like it, dont play it.
I am not having fun anymore, my assassin knife only runs are a success at killing players and getting me loot BUT...i just cant exfilthanks to the spanish username assasssin void to finish me on exfil btw you didnt even get my blue shieldsI am not having fun anymore
didn't ask
girls, I don’t know if its just mebut, I’m starting to think Marathon (2026) might be a hidden gemit’s wonderful slow burn, that’s for sure
>>560237527If you are playing solo - its a submarine warfare, especially due to sound changes they made. Let that sink in.
I wish when you tried to view the source of something it took you to its codex entry and not just leave you high and dry at the codex door
I used to badmouth Destroyer, but after actually playing as him, I take that all back. I love the run and the air dash.
>>560237527its pretty easy to exfil as assassinstart the exfil, walk away and hide, wait till the ten second ring formsrun to it, pop smoke, pop camogg
>>560237232The game's already difficult, if casuals fail a few too many "Do X in a single run!" quests, and if they aren't the type to rise to challenges or try playing for fun instead of rewards then they'll play less and less until they aren't playing at all.I don't know. I'm sure Bungie have all sorts of levers they can pull to nudge the player count up, they have access to more stats than I do. They already bumped the battle pass 'rewards' up (how no one sees battle passes are thinly veiled subscriptions is beyond me), they'll probably A/B test a ton of things until they find what hits.
>>560237892>>560238005Nah im done for real this time. There's a better use of my time than this bullshit
>>560238005Most of the time when the ring forms, you got to be shit out of luck or already stalked/camped to get fucked at that very moment. I've done plenty of five second dives on Rook solely because the odds of extracting before you get gibbed are noticeably higher. In such a case, the smoke is already a bit too late. You can easily smoke a bit before the ring appears to have ample cover.
@/mg/ is this true
>>560234934is there video of the thief drone locked room thing?
>>560238164>I'm sure Bungie have all sorts of levers they can pull to nudge the player count upYeah, like a PvE mode. Yet my impression is that those retards are pushing hard for PvP even if it will kill their game. Almost as if they want the game to die and for Sony to butcher them.
>>560238164the casuals voicing their opinion are gettin a ton of pushbacks. they are saying why they aren't having fun and the bungle defense force is too busy guarding their really disgusting chewed up chew toy.then bungie listens to their number #1 marketing tool which is making the casuals stay the fuck away even more.
>activate guarded exfil>molten rain>
might just be me, but I’m sensing the tide turning of popular opinion towards this game, wouldn’t be surprised to see the CCU skyrocket in the next 24 hours
>>560237527 See you in Marvel Rivals; 4 dps instalocks coming your way
>>560238485Every marathon match is about me getting killed
What's even Heat Cascade?The canons on the ground shoot stuff in the air and then there's firework?
im having a blast bro trust me the game gets better when you get past the refund window trust me im having so much fun #ad
Every Marathon match is me thinking about cumming on Thief's face.
>>560238571Are you just making up people in your head to get angry at?
>>560238697just two more weeks and the vibe will shift again
>>560238928Unironically and unfortunately true, though it's often way past the refund window when things click.
>>560238920I don't remember exactly but it's said to be something along the lines of a malfunctioning terraforming system
My final review is the game can be fun in theory, when you actually win and get some good loot. Big fun.The game's design is just not going to be popular, it loses casuals and anyone not willing to grind it out. It's K shaped. The better you are the more you enjoy it, the better loot you have, the better teams you have (premades) and therefore the more complexities you spot and use.During my solo knife only runs, I had fun. The map, Dire Marsh has so many subtle tunnels and ways to move on it. Imsim anon is right, the map is already designed like an imsim, it's fun. The PVP part is not so fun.The bottom half of the K shape are casuals, shitters,who are stuck in grey free kit hell and on no quest upgrade hell. The game is not fun, it's punishing, masochistic, insulting and elitist at that level. You're a casual player, can only use the free kit (defenders of the current balance say oh its so generous far more than Tarkov etc.) against people even leaning towards the upper half of the K. You're stuckFortnite BR if you only have a pistol that you can go on to lose, and everyone already has the scar and the chapter 5 infamous one tap sniper.
>>560238353I mean it's fun, the problem is solo is just a bitch to play and really isn't balanced with the ttk in mind. Trios is fun in that sorta tard rumble sense stakes are lower when 90% are freekitting and perimeter is actually fun
Grapple exploit is 100% getting patched. This shit is disgustingly broken, which is a shame since it's also so fun.
>>560239020yeah they do the same shit you do, just gaslight.
>>560239109Basically it's cloud seeding tech, but i think the payloads are somehow fucked, resulting in molten shrapnel raining down instead.
Inhabiting GOOK frame
>>560239109>>560239303Joy and some other AIs got together and killed everyone on Outpost because they were the root cause of the infection and poisoning all the colonists and killing off Joys friend, a little girl They locked all the leaders into the Pinwheel, and ignited it so nothing was left and then turned the seeding cannons onto the Pinwheel otuside so noone could escape
>>560239113its designed way too much like a BR right now where the top echelon snowball everytimeworse is how parameter is a sweat fest even around my level. maybe i should just sell everything in my vault to see if the conspiracy theories are real
>be bad at PVP>therefore be bad at Marathonyou have no fucking idea how mad I am at Microsoft for this shit
is it hard to play as Thief solo?I've been only playing Assassin solo, but was thinking of trying something else cause I've been finding myself dying too much now.is Destroyer good for solo or just not made for solo?
>>560239507>>560239113>Lead Designer for the game use to be the Lead Designer of ValorantWho woulda thunk
>>560238920Broken cloud seeding system
>>560239558You are just bad at marathon, not at pvp. If you werer playing a good pvp game you would fare much better.
>>560239558>why is our shitty skatepark full of people dealing drugs and homeless instead of a bunch of people skateboarding
I love harassing people in solos with thief, either winning or getting killed, only for them to see that i was running free kit. I can taste their disappointment.
>>560239558What does "being bad at PVP" mean, anon?
>>560239386Big diaper energy.
Problem is skill doesn't play enough of a role in fights, a game where living or dying means more than the average PvP game yet gear and being willing to camp are the biggest factors to a win or loss just don't flow together well. If people are going to accept being punished they have to feel like they lost of their own merits, and not because of something shallow like "the guy had a blue shield and I didn't" or "the guy sat in a corner for 15 minutes till I turned through this tunnel so he can basically one shot me" Sea of Thieves, despite being a very similar game with just as big if not higher stakes was able to thrive because players were always on an even playing feel, there is not grinding for power, each player will always have the same amount of health and deal the same amount of damage, and they'll have a good chance to see each other coming most of the time.
>join as rook>leave right away>$1k credits into your account
>>560239903>these posts finally stop>8 hour gap>start posting againYou're LITERALLY one fucking guy lmao
>>560238696>be assassin during heat cascade>guarded exfil>go invis>
>>560239275What are your criticisms of the game?
>>560239903Most of the complaints only concern solo and unlucky autofill queues where you are on your own basically.Game ONLY works well in premade trios.
>>560239908It autosells all non-auto destroyed rook loot you start with. You can see it saying "added to vault" with an image of claymores when you die as rook with that stuff still on you.
>>560240034Yeah every single post is mine, can you refute it them though?
>>560239903the game only works in a BR format for streamers.
>>560240103>when you die as rookOh wow I thought you only got to keep your starter stuff when you extract successfully.
>>560240181Have done so, and you just ignore it, because you know you're wrong
PLUS and (I cant use more pop slut images as some here whine about that)It's just too punishing, I have no cool weapons anymore.Let me add that the current playerbase is full of assholes. There's no one that can cooperate.I came across as some sort of teaming solos in prox chat, unavoidable but unfair.Then rooks, solos, teams, no one talks in prox chat except for a post death "wow dude fuck you" or "i had a free kit lol" NO one talks thanks to what we have seen with the TTK. It's worse now that one fight creates more and more teams going over there.The game has no appeal to casuals. The maps are too small for this TTK and thief, destroyer, vandal speed but in general too. The maps are too small mixed with the super low TTK (if youre a free kit) blue shields and above it turns into a BR>>560239507It's not, I sold everything I was loading in with literally nothing but a knife and I was seeing blue shields to even purple.Yeah, designed like a BR but you get more and more advantages. I consider the shield system to be badly designed, make it do something. Have the sponsored kits carry a green at least for the psychological benefit to people using them.Right now being a free kit/low level no upgrade rook makes you feel like some holocaust survivor.
>>560240291direct me to the post then, you dont have to retype it
>>560239020What he means to say is that he keeps posting the same stale bait in these generals day after day after day and and people keep calling him a retard.
don't care
No?
>>560239113>My final reviewSee you again tomorrow.
I rather the game change up a bit than outright die within a year but then again I'm not an only child with main character syndrome so I might be a minority at this point.
>>560240034Oh good I'm not the only one who noticed that lmao
How do i find stuff as rook?
They need to revert the sound changes. You can't do anything without alerting 70% of the map (100% on outpost) to your location and getting raped by 3 other parties. It's even worse on solo, where you get 1v1v1v1 fights regularly on outpost now because every person can hear every gunshot.
>>560239903Sounds like skill issue, bro
This game feels a lot like The Isle (dino game).It has the same survival horror vibe.It's also a game where I get raped in every lobby.
>>560240540>so I might be a minorityWell yeah I had guessed you were some variety of brownoid
all the marathon porn is lame and retarded and gay why do you people even pretend to like this game
>>560240540rats are sweating their balls off cause they realize bungie is more likely to make the game less punishing then let it die
>>560240658Outpost ive died in literally 2 minutes after my retard team engaged the bots and we got aped by the team directly next to us
They need to add cases for weapons/meds/junk ala Tarkov. I'm not even doing THAT great on my runs, and I'm constantly having to sell stuff I'd rather not simply because I have not room at 4/5 vault space upgrades. I can't even imagine what 3 man teams of sweats that are spamming Outpost are doing to manage their vaults.
>>560240902I have had several runs where I get engaged by enemy players in under a fucking minute, shit's a fucking mess
Changes I would make>Green shields in free kits plus better heals>roll back the audio change>better chances of good loot outside POIs>REDO the faction system>REDO the slow upgrade system within factions because casuals dont have the time, the patience, the skill once they start losing to complete it>ROOK can complete his own quests to earn his own upgrades and expand on him.>When you die around the exfil ring you cant be looted and you get to keep your loot if it fires up soon after you die.>>560240513I wanna read what cryo is and see if the game dies or not but not invested in playing it. It's a waste of time.
>>560240540>I would rather games I like be bastardized instead of having to play something that isn't ultra popular
>>560241128Do you really think Sony/Bungie are going to put any real time or effort into this game if the peak player count hits 20-25k?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhApJPSMWuc
do different bullet types have special characteristics? do heavy bullets cause more flinch? do energy weapons do bonus damage to shields?
>>560240902cant even really do shit about it if you avoid and knife everything, once the npcs aggro and you dont kill them right away, they will fire a shot.
>>560241119>ARC players demanding every other game be ARC instead of just going and playing ARCOr is it Destiny?
>>560241298As far as I'm aware the heavy rounds make UESC stagger
>>5602411284chan has fucking fallen man, I can't believe we've got multiple retards frequenting this thread that are obssessed with arguing that games need to be made more casual friendly.
>>560241290they speak a big game until they realize the only people are playin are going to play as fuckin gay as they are. drone on drone warefare, shotgun/snipers only, ratting solosbut were concerned about high ttk makin stall fests somehow as we camp a corner with a shotgun
>>560240292I feel you, and i share your frustration.
>>560239908based glorpchad
why the fuck does EVERYONE shoot uesc in trios and NO ONE shoots them in solosarent those the same people
>>560241442The casuals are the people fighting for low ttk so they don't have to engage in actual PvP
>>560241290I would rather an interesting and different game that I like which has minimal development than a generic and shit game which gets loads of development, yes.
>>560241352Fuck off lol, go the other way, dont pussy out.>Gear degrades so youre gonna lose it anyways>TTK of RON and ARMA, one shot anywhere is a kill>Penalties and debt for losing your free kits in faction progressYou either want this to be super casual (i didnt even suggest anything too outlandish) or you want this to be a military simulator. No inbetween.My changes would see player count rise to healthy levels, apparently if we continue on this course meant only for sweatfags and streamers and most people should watch it only then that leads to EOS>>560241470veeeeeeeeeeeery funny
>>560241704>You either want this to be super casual (i didnt even suggest anything too outlandish) or you want this to be a military simulator. No inbetween.What if we want it to be what it is right now?Oh sorry, that can't exist because it doesn't let you get shot and not even be at a disadvantage.
>>560241119>let me risk lessno>the sound is why im badno>let me get good stuff without doing anythingno>i dont wanna do questsno>i dont wanna play the gameno>let me complete quests with 0 risk + give me quality lootno>if i sell at the last second, it should count as a win!nochrist everyone that complains about this game just asks for everything to be made easier or asks for arbitrary changes that are tied to random cope (sound, ttk, etc).
>>560241672>InterestingThere is nothing interesting about a skilless meta that got solved within a week of release. There is nothing interesting about you sitting in a corner with a shotgun or on a roof top with a sniper waiting to one shot someone. You are confusing a dopamine drip with substance. >minimal developmentBitch you aren't going to get ANY development. >>560241704Remember avatarfagging is reportable
Bungie is releasing a new shell after the marathon boss is defeated
>>560241704>You either want this to be super casual (i didnt even suggest anything too outlandish) or you want this to be a military simulator. No inbetween.What the fuck are you even talking about? I think the general balance of the game is pretty fucking good. You don't need to go very far at all away from how things are right now. Have you considered getting good at video games?
>a fucking team is trying to extract but the ai is coming at me, a solo rook
>>560241671No, the casuals are the people demanding the game be made easier and more forgiving.
>>560241573Marathon is a survival horror in solo play
>>560212529Triage.
>>560241893>Bitch you aren't going to get ANY development.Good.I don't care. I would rather no development than yet another worthless piece of shit that caters to casual retards like you. That's already every other fucking AAA game on the market. Go play them.
>>560240952Yeah I’m struggling for space as a mid player. Too much of it is purple upgrade materials that I can’t throw away.
>>560241996No the casuals are the ones demanding it stay braindead easy as long as you have a shotgun or sniper and are willing to afk until someone passes in front of you
>>560242107>No, the casuals are the people demanding the game be made easier and more forgiving
>>560241573it attracts attention from other runners who could assrape you while you're distracted.
>>560241704Guy who doesn't play video games:Seriously what was the last game you played before this? I'm being serious, you have NEVER talked about videogames with this level of interest.
>>560241704>veeeeeeeeeeeery funnyNo, sincerely. I understand your distrust though.
>>560242127acktually low ttk is to appeal to the casuals so they have a chance at the sweaty people
>>560241959Hmph :steam out of nose emoji: little ROOK
>>560242103>I don't care.Then shut the fuck up, if you don't care your opinion does not fucking matter faggot, you are irrelevant. Why the fuck would anyone listen to someone with no interest or investment in the game living
>>560241893>There is nothing interesting about you sitting in a corner with a shotgun or on a roof top with a sniper waiting to one shot someone.People do this in every extraction shooter
>Alpha gameplay was missing icons, shaders, entire mechanics (cooling heat, some buffs)Bro what the fuck were they DOING for 4 years? I do not understand how modern games take so long to develop relatively tiny amounts of content. I love the current game but what the hell.
>>560242340and nigga?
>>560242285>Why the fuck would anyone listen to someone with no interest or investment in the game livingI do have investment in the game living. In THIS game living.
>>560241846The player numbers are my proof, my evidence that the game as it is wont last.>>560241926Its not good for most people. Youre seeing a drop off. People realize theyre the fun the game delivers to others. You get rid of the casuals and normal people playing this. People drop this game FAST because they cant learn. They dont have a space to learn.Place yourself in the average players and their position>FUCK ITS BEEN RUNS AND RUNS of nothing but dying>i cant never ever get this quest made (ive had people say that frustrated as fuck in outpost for the sekgen quests, the first step) + ragequit when he dies for the 4th time ( no heals and bot spam)>cant get better loot, not even sure to exfilYou lose players who go back to what, BR games, deadlock, COD, or whatever others playtheres no room for learning theres this punishing after punishing streak>>560242162cruelty squad, RE4 remake and soon RE9, and elden ring re run. Another malenia run with no armor btw
>>560241846>give stephen the fat ones what's his retard ass gonna do about it
>>560242343engine shit I guess
freakin blasting
>>560242418>Its not good for most people.So?>Youre seeing a drop off.So?>You get rid of the casuals and normal people playing this.Oh no... a video game made for people who play video games... instead of """"normal people""""
>>560241671So to clarify, you think that ttk should be raised, and that doing so will make the game more hardcore and less friendly to casual players?
>>560242343>Bro what the fuck were they DOING for 4 years?Most of the 4 years was preproduction, and it only really came into a real form two years ago at most.
>>560242412The game isn't going to live in its current state, you have to accept that reality whether you like it or not, time to grow up timmy. So here's the two outcomes>Game stays the same, continues to bleed 500-1000 people per day, eventually put on life support if not outright shut down, you can't play the game>Game changes, potentially grows in players, and you can continue to play the game, if it changes to much to your liking you can fuck off One is a guaranteed death, one is potential success, second is objectively the correct course
>>560242418>Another malenia run with no armor btwBullshit.>>560242496Chadssassin... I.... kneeru...
>>560242418>the player numbers are my proofproof of what? you made no statement outside "these are the changes id make". your proof that everyone else is a shitter like you? ok...
>usually do good to okay (kill at least 1 runner every run in solos and exfil 4/5 times)>today though I've been on a 15 death streak in solos and have only killed a total of 3 people>most of the contracts I've been doing I was moments from completing before dying>found nothing valuable at all anyway>mostly just lost some good shit of my own to assassin rats that sit in bushesI can see why people would hate this game. When you're having a bad session, it REALLY fucking blows. It feels like the whole game is against you and everything is just rigged to shitI know thats not the case but I get it now.
>>560242615I'd rather roll the dice on this game living than accept it being turned into dogshit, sorry. It has no value to me or to other people if they did what you want.Go be a faggot elsewhere instead of spending all day trying to shitpost this one game because you're too casual for it.
>>560242587It will result in people, casual or not, being less likely to burn out on the game because dying will feel more in their hands and skill based. Casuals will put up with a lot of shit if they feel like they have options and a chance to fight back, see Deadlock being a much more hardcore game with objectively more depth than Marathon set is far more successful
>>560242615>The game isn't going to live in its current stateWhy not, exactly? Are the server costs too much? Does it cost too much to have a team of fifteen or twenty people making new maps and features?
>>560242695>guy who cant intuit what the conversation is aboutLOL
>>560239903>and not because of something shallow like "the guy had a blue shield and I didn't" or "the guy sat in a corner for 15 minutes till I turned through this tunnel so he can basically one shot me"the problem with that is the premise of the game involves progression via gear, so you cant make gear completely meaningless otherwise theres no reason to try and collect any, you just end up shooting each other rather than actually looting anythingand then the other thing is just camping which is a common problem in multiplayer fps
>>560242695You'll have to forgive him, he forgot that he's trying to pretend to be multiple different people at the moment
>>560242703>assassin rats that sit in bushes>rats>making ambushesI guess i am a gopher or a marmot then, because i sit in the bushes and wait for everyone to leave so i can go about my business.
>>560242763>dying will feel more in their hands and skill basedIt is skill based. You can peek corners better, you can make less noise, you can never run out in the middle of a field so someone can snipe you, and on and on and on. You fags are the absolute fucking worst.
they've already renigged on the audio change and are putting it back
>>560243161What was the change?
>>560243161I look forward to our resident shitposters explaining to us how this is bad and proof that the game is dying.
>SHIELDS DONT MATTER THIS GAME IS TTK BECAUSE THATS REAL FUCKING SKILL LETS GO GO BACK TO ARC CASUAL>ok lets give everyone a free green shield for at least the psychological benefit and confidence boost to make death less discouraging>NO YOU CANT JUST GIVE FREE SHIELDS THIS GAME IS GEAR BASED ITS IMPORTANT
>>560242752>I'd rather roll the dice on this game living You're not rolling the dice, the outcome is decided, you're delusional so you don't have to accept that >>560242807A major corp like Sony would rather those 20 people be working on the next big thing then something struggling to keep its head above the water, like bro what an embarrassingly ignorant thing to ask>>560243054>Crouch walk through bushes the entire gameDo you fucking hear yourself man? Does that sound fun? Who the fuck wants to do that for 20 minutes? If the optimal way to play your game is objectively boring it is objectively bad game design. >>560242928There is a middle ground between good gear giving an advantage and good gear just making you win.>>560243161>Do something obviously stupid>Vague promise to fix it in the futureyep that's bungie for ya
>>560243258Oh joy, the 8 year old has woken up. Glad to see you back in the fight soldier.
>>560233198>Are you having a fucking laugh mate?No, I'm notThe Free kits set the base line for the majority of weapons. Base values of all the non barter ARs:Over run - 40 metersM77 - 46 metersV75 - 46 meters>Not only do most Overrun setups not give it much range beyond 30mAbsolutely wrong.>in comparison M77 does not accept optics because it has a split ironsight/opticOkay??? >it also deals noticeably more damage and can still hit reliably up to 50m without much of a drop off.Wrong again.>H-AR can easily tap you from anywhere between 60-80m without much of an issue depending on opticsThe free kits are the baseline for the majority of weapons, not all. The rare guns are going to be outside of that norm, thats what makes them special. >SCAR also has homing bullets and becomes noticeably more dangerous when wielded by a Triage. The SCAR's projectiles also travel slower, thats the trade. >All of these fucking things matter and the only way you learn about that shit is already losing to the weapon or getting one in your handsAnon are you seriously pretending that its a struggle to get your hands on any of these weapons besides the H-AR?
>>560242703this will increasingly become the case as the player count continues to drop and you only have the sweat rats left
>>560243369Bro he's been posting for hours. Be glad he's talking about the game instead of his usual unironic schizo rants.
>>560243290No, but I sure as shit hear the ONLY PERSON WHO SAID THOSE WORDS. This is the problem with the haters this game has. You don't even understand how to get good. You're unwilling to accept that you're just bad at it and that YOU CAN IMPROVE if you bother to fucking try. Instead, it has to be the game's fault. GIT GUD you fucking shitter
Its a literal nothing green shield lmaowhy are people so butthurt about even the idea of free kits giving the rook shield that dies when you exfil??You gotta give people something, this games battle pass sucks, the progression is gear. Imagine if in fortnite when you died they took pages out of your battle pass. This is the games problem man.Give people an easier time to get back out there with decent gear, it doesnt matter that its not much. You want people feeling like they have a shot
This game is going to make me finally get a mic, what do people even use these days? I have hd600s
>>560243494Then top it off with how much toxic positivity the die-hard fans are administering constantly on anyone remotely interested and say the most neutral critique for the game it's going to kill itself fast.
>>560243612Holy fucking autism
born to play as Vandal.forced to play as Destroyer.
>>560243290Extraction shooters are not for you
>what makes your game funDeadlock fan>the characters are cool, simply plays good, great take on the genre, team based stuff done right. BOILS DOWN TO BEING A GAME THATS FUN TO PLAYMarathon MUH LOW TTK FAN>YOU DO NOTHING ALL MATCH AND YOU BETTER FUCKING LIKE IT, DONT SHOOT USE YOUR KNIFE DONT MAKE NOISE CROUCH WHENEVER YOU HEAR ANYTHING AROUND DONT EVER EVER TALK TO PEOPLE AT ALL KILL KILL KILL GET YOUR SHIT STOLEN FOR NO REASON
>>560241846I mean the green shields in freekits would be less negligible, speaking as a triage fag. Besides, it'd make less of a difference
>>560243756Not so fucking wordy are you now, huh? Git gud or fucking quit. Stop shitting up the general.
Take a deep breath and then extract>>560243909>>560243909>>560243909
>>560243612To be fair 90% of the responses to people saying solo is overtuned are people saying you should crouchwalk around the edge of the map and never shoot.
These dumbassed got killed twice by the ghost commander and DCd, so I had to leave early.
>>560243945How can solo be overtuned if EVERYONE IS SOLO? That makes no fucking sense to me.
Have you noticed how the edgy consolefag that spams about "killing the game is fun camping low level players" is also the one saying "just get better the game has nothing wrong it will live muh 20 devs making new maps" LMAO
Huh, is the 77 really that good?https://tauceti.gg/
>>560242615funny how much the sweaty faggot economy for this game tries to scare away the casuals, the company would gladly flip a 180 on them to get more casuals to play if they had the power because theres just more people than them.
>>560244097I haven't noticed that, no
>>560215401It always does. Its why extraction games, PvP or PvE are always difficult to find an audience for. The base denominators aka the widest catch feel pain and flinch, as all humans do. There's no reason for most people to continue to put effort into something that makes them feel negatively. Got to have something compelling to keep then going.
>>560205981I play the game, and the problem is blatently clear in my opinion.If grey weapon goes against green shield, your fucked.If someone pulls out a weapon with a shield, your fucked.If someone sweeps you after you fought against npcs, youre fucked.Snipers, youre fucked.Progression favours good players, wich makes them even stronger.Why dont they show if a players has any kind of shield upgrade?Otherwise i will have to guess and get fucked when i cant knife down someone with 3 hits because they have any shield upgrades.
>>560244224the devs made us a game the company itself wishes were different. i dont understand why anons are throwing in with the company instead of backing the devs who dared to make something noncommercial and noncasual. like, isnt this EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WANT??? less corposlop and more nuanced, deep games with hardcore mechanics. you guys just hate everything.
>>560243702its really funny how vocal people are becoming about it on all social media on shit not related to changes, then bungie implements a change like raising gun sounds that makes it even worst for casuals and everyones still confused why they would do thatand its like well, they listen to streamers
>>560217142Nice job making artifical look hot.
How to fix the game.1. Shields prevent critical hits.2. Ballistic weapons have bullet drop and are affected by wind speed. No bullet drop in vacuum/low gravity. The longer the distance the more projectile is affected by gravity and wind.3. Energy weapons are hitscan, have reduced range, no target homing, make less noise, suffer decreased damage and range when used in fog and rain. No range/damage penalties when shot in vacuum unless projectile/beam traverses cloud of gasses/aerosol/dust. Energy weapons overheat much more in vacuum.4. Railguns overheat on each shot, and are hitscan.5. Thermals detect only thermal signatures, meaning gunfire/energy discarge, metal heated by sun, heat buildup and overheating on runners. Have reduced range though inverse square law - the further the range the less likely it is possible to detect a signature. Thermals can be obscured by smoke grenades and assassin's smoke skills, thermals have a reduced range effectiveness in fog and rain.6. New scope - EM signature. Can detect robots, tutters, drones, runners with active abilities and skills.7. WSTR shotgun change - fires both barrels at once. No further changes.8. Anti-infantry mines (like in Far Cry 3).9. Remote explosive charges (like in Far Cry 3).10. RC drone (than can only scout and ping targets). can be self-destroyed mid-flight.
>>560244664>like in Far Cry 3so this is what AAA gamers are like
>>560244415theres a balance to it and tryin to do a niche hardcore slop fest with it being a gaas is going to create a discourse.you can still have it be "hardcore" and have it appeal to casuals too. the game devs should figure that the fuck out but keep insisting on pushing numbers to make money which involves makin the streamers be dancing monkeys to get suckers to sell it as some hardcore fun 1v3 clutch br nonsense for zoomers.no one wants that shit except the 5%. now your games going to die.
>no matchmaking at allDont like the steamchart autists win vros...
Btw if you die on a slope, you can open your inventory and spam drop item, they will go down the slope, making the sweatyfuck that killed you seethe.
>>560242162Psycho Patrol R on extravagant doing a celestial prisoner run. I've been at it for close to two months now.
>>560244186It's the most all-round weapon by far, comes with a scope by default and is very deadly if you can track their head because it has low recoil. 77 and a shotgun is probably the meta
>>560244823Every online multiplayer game is live service. Destiny 2 was “GaaS.” Why do you retards use this as a criticism like it’s unique to Marathon.
>>560244784Have you played Far Cry 3? Have you pleyed it on multiplayer when it was populated? More than that, have you played FEAR? Because that one had same things, even a deployable mini-turret.Tell me anon, which games have you played that you base your opinion on? Please, indulge me.
>>560246042have you ever watched barney? we could use some big purple dinosaurs? more than that, have you seen teletubbies? they have things on their head which would look really cool in game!
>>560244186M77 is effective at pretty much every range, only being outpaced easily at extreme short or long range by specialized stuff. Also light ammo but has fairly high damage per shot so it's efficient.
>>560246357Being asinine does not help you.
>>560241119>Green shields in free kits plus better healsThat's stupid, either get a better starter kit or find/bring your own>roll back the audio changeI'm indifferent about it>better chances of good loot outside POIsSure if you buff the loot in POI's>REDO the faction systemHow so?>REDO the slow upgrade system within factions because casuals dont have the time, the patience, the skill once they start losing to complete itHonestly just give people the ability to buy basic mats from the shop>ROOK can complete his own quests to earn his own upgrades and expand on him.That's a good one>When you die around the exfil ring you cant be looted and you get to keep your loot if it fires up soon after you die.Make it so you can get looted but any loot that the guy is too slow to get you get to keep
>>560247479You know what, fair. The Rook changes are what id prefer and i agree on all you said yeah to. Playing rook is just miserable and too fragile until you get the upgrades but its so slow to get to that
>>560247479>green shields in freekits>survivability goes up and gives a free shield on extract>leave the heals the way they are.I'd see this as less of a problem because it balances it out
>>560244186It's absolutely mid, but thats also what makes it great.
>>560239113What this criticism forgets every single time is there is absolutely nothing forcing you to engage in pvp in this game.If you genuinely just aren''t very good at fighting other players, then why aren't you just playing a sneaky and/or mobile shell and playing around avoiding people? Jump in a building, load up your backpack, gtfo and exfil. Rinse and repeat and you finish quests and exfilUnless the "Bad players" genuinely are so braindead that they dont know how to play games other than treating everything like its cod death match and spend the entire game just sprinting in random directions until they see an enemy
>>560253302>Unless the "Bad players" genuinely are so braindead that they dont know how to play games other than treating everything like its cod death match and spend the entire game just sprinting in random directions until they see an enemyConsidering their second complaint is always "I literally can't do anything because the TTK is low so it's just luck if I die? Yes.
>>560253302You cant get the best loot if you dont PVP stop being a moron
>>560240540>i want arc raidersAnon, i'd rather see this game die in 5 days than feed brain dead uncs more slop. Sorry, go play the witcher or something.
>>560254153The best loot comes from pve, the reality is that some one is going to pvp you for it 99.999% of the time.
>>560255643WhoaIt's like some kind of PvP...vE
>>560248228I've taken down purple shielded Runners on Outpost with just a basic Rook. Examine your playing.
>>560256640Yes anon, this isnt tarkov where the best loot comes from a locked door.
>>560257707It is actually, the keys are just nonexistent
>>560258124>Noob doesnt know you can just buy keys from the armory.
>>560259140>just 4 fucking shell IDs and enough cash that you'll get out of even an amazing key run with a purple backpack>have to run and extract the proto-key before you get your random key>if you get downed at all in that run you lose itCome on, anon
>>560259923>getting downed in a run, like a casual shitter.Wouldnt be me.
