ogryns won mediumly. theyre still mid, but the gap was closed. hive scum were basically rereleased for like the 3rd time. all the fucking talents are all over the goddamn place once again. veteran got numbers changes, zealot had no changes (thunder hammer was buffed though)

I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed in this. All depends on how vast and open the mode truly is, and what rewards you can get to upgrade your shit outside of the mode

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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

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True Grit?
More like True Shit!

where are the patch notes
I don't want to sit and listen through some random youtuber rambling them off

>>560263803
have to wait until tuesday unfortunately

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Shit?
More like Shit!

>voice of command nerf
fuck this game

>>560263985
all of these nerfs are going to make havoc 40 way harder, and force everyone to only play the new mode whether they like it or not

>>560261180
Gotta say that over all I like these ogryn changes.
Seems to be bringing back his tankiness and making him very good. The 50% damage reduction on dodge for 1 second is gonna make him feel very nice.
This also means that in malice difficulty ogryn wont be OP at all either because none of the shitters there know how to dodge at all.

Also the steady grip sounds really good on ogryn too, gonna see how that feels on my ripper gun.
Might be worth while to run in havoc.

>>560264093
>never crutched on bubble
>only bring vets half of the time
>still win h40s
Stay seething, shitter.

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Dead Shot?
More like Dead Shit!

>dude if I call someone a shitter, they will engage with me, I have no life and need replies

lmao

>bough DRG becasue everyone says how grea tit is and it's by Coffee Stain
>do tutorial
>launch first mission
>not a gmae to be found
>turns out the gam is now dead
>check twitch numbers out of curiosity
>under 100

Fell for it again award.

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shit shit shit caca!

>I'm bad at the game and get mad when someone points it out

lol

>>560264302
You only take bubble if you have an ogryn in the team because other wise he's getting gunned down too easily.
Also it's a boon for ogryn players since 90% of them run Taunt, which means they take aggro on like 90% of the bosses, so having the extra toughness regen from Sanctuary is good.

>>560264507
>turns out the gam is now dead
glad I never fell for it (i almost did)
Thanks for the headsup brotha

>>560264507
Skill issue, literally started playing like last week and I'm finding games to join just fine, same when hosting games, 90% of the time my party gets filled super fast.

>>560264518
hell yeah...

>>560263985
>30% longer base cooldown
>but now you can spend 1 point to make it revive multiple teammates, at range, instantly
an absolutely absurd buff that makes veteran easily a must have on every team, as if he wasn't already
people were unironically taking revive speed on their curios and building around how they can pull off revives, they'll stop doing that after this goes live
>b-but what if the veteran goes down
bring more veteran

>removed infiinite cleave from plasma gun
I am no longer interested in darktide

>>560264703
That's crazy but I don't recall asking

>>560264754
I asked him in private on discord, but my discord went down so he had to post it here.

>>560264507
there's a bug where the lobby browser automatically toggles the season filters on, and there is no filter setting for season 6, if you toggle off the season filters you'll see all of the lobbies
it's pretty funny you think no one is playing because you couldn't join a lobby, and were too scared to just launch your own and see that people were joining you, though

>>560264737
>makes veteran easily a must have on every team, as if he wasn't already
I don't know about must-have, but vet + scum + psyker solves havoc as a trio, a fourth player is just filler at that point. Not bringing a vet is fine, just sub-optimal compared to upgraded crates feeding infinite RPGs to the scum (and only the scum, don't you dare touch the crate).
>people were unironically taking revive speed
>they'll stop doing that
Nope. You'll still take revive speed on the tankiest/mobile character (so, zealot or arbitrator, both of which get even more in their tree) for when the vet goes down.
>just bring double vet
Not a bad idea, but good teams don't usually go down often enough to justify bringing 2 vets just for the revive meme, and if a situation goes bad, an instant revive likely isn't enough anyway. If you bring 2 vets 1 scum, you're missing tanky frontline AND cleave and can't fill both of those with a single class, though I imagine ogryn is likely fine here. Still highly doubt it even compares to RPG spam though, even with the nerf to Pickpocket. Most h40 scum I see are melee builds anyway.

>>560264894
I will try again then. I really only play single players games but I'm willing to give the game a proper go.

>>560264737
The main issue with the revive node in the past was how retardedly unfair the downsides were on that node (radius decrease + longer cooldown) compared to gold toughness node which literally had none.

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Heavy Sword enjoyers hopium
>Sprint freely during heavy attacks
>Minor numerical buffs to finesse values
>Special attack is easier to morph into and out of, inflicts 10% brittleness, and has a new light attack followup that's supposed to deal with carapace

I'm too retarded for the new auspex puzzle

>>560265118
It had big downsides because it's an absurdly strong thing to be allowed to do. Payday 2 established this ages ago. Not a soul wasn't running the ranged revive in that game.

this is the only general I've been to where people unironically think saying
>skill issue
actually means anything

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>looger buffs
we are so bickety back

>>560265074
The actual havoc meta currently is vet scum psyker ogryn.
You bring ogryn for 80% skullcrusher + taunt which takes aggro off of everyone else so they can just do their jobs without worrying about anything.
Like iirc, thanks to but skullcrusher and taunt I think you can make it so that enemies take 100% increased damage from everything, since I think they stack additively. Since one's a blessing and the other an ability.
I might be wrong though.

>>560265404
>80 second cooldown
>still run out of ammo
I dont think so chief

>>560265404
thank god ammo refill purchases in expeditions are a personal expenditure, but I'm I'll get a level 1000 ogryn in a lobby eventually who will ask someone to buy an ammo crate and carry it just for him anyway

>>560265324
Well true, but it's more absurd that the gold toughness node, you know the thing that makes the team fucking invulnerable and be able to ignore crusher overheads and snipers, somehow didn't have ANY downsides to it.
I was fine with the revive having some downsides, the increased cooldown was fine but I think the radius decrease was a bit too much.

>>560265417
All sources of "target takes X more damage" stack additively with each other, but multiplicatively with other categories of damage increases (*+% damage, *+% strength and such).
Ogryn is optional. Taunt is good, but a good arbitrator can provide more value and still bring Skullcrusher. In fact, Skullcrusher isn't unique to any class, even the vet can (and should, what the fuck else are you using your melee for, power sword clutching with some meme build???) bring Skullcrusher. Shit even the psyker can.
I tend to prefer playing arbitrator in such setups because melee is rarely an issue. It's the rando retard vet/scum refusing to shoot gunners. I imagine ogryn is better in premades but I don't play premades.
>but the taunt damage amp
Arbitrator has TtW which has similar numbers. I also much prefer taunt CDR so ogryn does his job better.

finally pickpocket is normal
retarded faggots ruining games
>gunlugger ammo buff in the same patch
yeah uh retarded much?

>>560265404
I like the buffs, the twin stubber buffs seem good.
The ability might be worth while running in havocs now potentially.
I'll probably run a ripper gun cavalcade + flechette build so I can apply max stacks of bleed and burn onto the bosses.

>>560265738
why is that retarded?

>>560265305
4 symbols appear on the left...
you just find the 4 symbols that are grouped together on the right

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>>560265850
Anon is a slavgroid melee zealot who didn't get with the times and feels insecure when someone has a higher arbitrary score on the modded scoreboard because enemies are being shot dead before he gets there.

>>560265852
I said I 'm retarded

>>560265723
However ogryn is the only one who can apply 80% skullcrusher onto everything at once thanks to power surge.

>>560266064
dont worry there will likely be a mod you can download to insta solve it

>>560266042
don't be silly
zealot wouldn't manage to outscore anyone even if he could get to the enemies before they were already dead

>>560266081
Yeah, ogryn is quite strong, but spreading Skullcrusher on everything has never felt to me like it mattered. It's retardedly powerful for utterly raping bosses and deleting twins before they even get to stand up, but that's not unique to ogryn.
The only time it really stands out is rotten armor, but scum invalidates that now too.

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>>560266064
it's literally this. You got this. I believe in you.

>>560266278
The triangle symbols goes in the....
thats right the square hole

>>560266364
you'll get it eventually

>>560266364
>>560266278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDH66X3ClA

is it okay to enjoy sister of the thorn? this career is so fun to me i use the deep wood staff and a spear

They didn't fuck up my Psyker tree, right? Just cucked bubblecucks?

>>560266697
yes i t's perfectly fine

>>560265101
I managed to find a game, it's simply too much to have other people in the game. Back to Satisfactory

How does 50% ranged cleave work?
If a gun as not enough to cleave anything by default. Will 50% make it cleave +1? Will it half the damage on the next enemy?

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>>560266783
thank god. i also bring the BIG WALLE because i love cast plante :)

>>560266864
obviously it cleaves them in half, stupid..

>>560265850
giving too much ammo in this game is stupid because ammo literally circumvents challenges and game mechanics, that's the point of it. Can't fight 5 ragers in melee? You can shoot them. Can't fight this horde? You can shoot it at a chokepoint. This boss is scary and you can't position to it? Shoot it. Specials show up and you don't want them to do their special mechanic? Shoot them before they get into melee range

The other guy is just a retard who doesn't understand what the melee/ranged balance is in these games

>>560266708
bubble is indeed cucked.
small number buffs and nerfs here and there, nothing major

>>560266864
It's +50% of its base value. Hitting an enemy consumes hitmass, which is a flat number that each enemy's body part has, based on what armor the target has.
Practical example: Scum's needler has fuckall for base cleave. The cleave blessing on it only lets it cleave specifically on an unarmored headshot. The base cleave, and added cleave, don't even add up to enough to cleave through flak heads.

>TL;DR
If your gun has poor base cleave, added cleave does fuckall because it's multiplicative.

>>560266786
You're a weird guy Ace, weird guy.

>>560266892
I like the weall too but it can be counterproductive if used incorrectly.. also be careful if you select the elf bot to be sisters she can troll you with it

>>560267002
thanks, that's nice to know

>ogryn gun skill refunds ammo now
is it actually usable?

>>560267462
It's going to destroy Auric. Not sure about Havoc.

>>560267462
yes anon it's very usable we are all playing the new update right now so we can answer your retarded question please kill yourself you low IQ nigger

>>560267547
We already know what it does lil bro
What more do you need exactly?

>>560264507
Yes you did. Get a refund. It’s only fun for about 100 hours anyway.

Could use a little petit peu of kebab, chief

yeah im thinking ranged arbites this season

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Here's your free cosmetic, bro

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Attention, miners

>>560268431
are there non camo ones?

>>560268431
>>560268612
What do arbeebus and HIV cum get

>>560269398
>>560269475

hahahahaha

haahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

ahaha ohohohohohho hahaha

>>560269475
steiner...

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So after watching some streams it's kinda meh.
>none of the roguelite CW stuff
>"maps" are all deserty canyons
>looks good but gets old soon
>tile randomization is there but it doesn't shake things up radically
>actually looks and feels more like Borderlands than HD
>gameplay loop of picking shit up and doing auspex "puzzles" to unlock doors that have shit to pick up behind them is okay
>but not "hundreds of hours of quality time" okay
>doesn't really feel like you NEED to snipe at all, action happens around building prefabs where everything goes
>shtelf and knife sliding gonna solve this mode and it's boring
>funny dust devils (ported from VT2)
>no carrot on the stick mechanic to push you into playing either, jjust get whatever penance armor and that's it
>missed opportunity to attach red dust to it
All in all it's kinda just "okay" novelty mode, don't see myself playing it for too long.
Like, I can't even say it's bad, just not super exciting.

>>560269589
Yeah it's basically mortis trials 2.0 from what I've seen. I'm sure it's fun for a bit but for how much they claimed they focused on "replayability" it seems to be insanely not replayable actually.
This is the third new gamemode and they still won't just fucking do CW. insane

ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS COPY CHAOS WASTES
WHY DIDN'T THEY DO THAT

where
are
the
patch
notes

>>560270147
to be fair no one plays cw either...

>>560269589
once again effort that should have gone into proper story maps.

>>560269589
Truly, the havoc killer!

>>560270147
They didn't make CW, and the studio that did is defunct now

>>560265324
it wasnt run because its bad, you shouldnt need to revive your team if youre just shouting in the first place to prevent them from going down, its the same thing that happened with kruber shout, if you need to shout to ress someone, chances are the situation is fubar already

>>560271027
but if you dont choose revive, that 1 guy is going to yell at you for not picking it!

>>560270446
>proper story maps
Honestly, they should've either
>actually take their time and make a CW like mode (doesn't have to be exactly like CW just with roguelite shit and tile based maps) instead of MT and this thing
or
>just made this thing into a story map WITH A TWIST without the whole new mode bs with it's own queue

>>560263747
>>560263758
>>560263894
>>560264312
>>560264518
I chuckle'd

>>560268431
>>560268612
Got more pics?
Will be really lame if ogryn only gets 1 new headpiece and it is a fucking gamer headset.

>"the thing that was so strong it trivialized everything in the game that everyone and their families ran recieved a minor nerf!?!?!? Wuhhhh?!?!?! Huhhhh!?!?!? How am I supposed to win in havoc 40 now, learn how to play the game...??????? Thats impossible!!!!"
I cant believe some of you people are real

>>560272128
Ogryn actually gets TWO headpieces! The second one is A recolor of that headset.

>>560269503
>>560269508
Honestly what is with the DLC class cosmetics?
Like I can somewhat get arbites because GW only wants them to follow the models, but what the fuck is with the hive scum not getting any?

And what's weirder this is only about free cosmetics.

>running through malice hab dreyko with irl buddy on the arb
>dude is kind of a shitter but hes a massive 40k nerd so hes alright
>finish up a horde
>turn around and see my team fighting off a chaos spawn
really wierd i didnt hear the noise(s) it usually makes. god damn game's sound channels are at their limit man, i swear. im so tired of sound cues not working
>it takes out the level 15 zealot and level 17 psyker with relative ease, and begins slurping up my buddy
>smack a barrel because im a tunnel visioning fucking retarded faggot and a permashitter
>blow myself off the edge
>csbro lets go of my buddy and he promptly clutches the revive on the zealot
>zealot pops book and revives the psyker
>psyker comes and grabs me dangling off of the ledge
>we recover and kill it

good times. thanks for reading my blog.

>>560272190
who are you quoting

>>560259682
Nerfing bubble to shit is the morally right thing to do. It doesn't matter if the other two abilities are theoretically better, the bubble is the most toxic one in terms of how it makes people play like retards by constantly stacking in one spot with their backs against a wall and no exit plan. For the long term health of the game and the skill level of the average player, this is unironically the most important ability to nerf, I guarantee you that people becoming "bubble brained" explains a shocking amount of wipes in havoc.

>>560272716
everytime i see this post or a flavor of it i always end up in stitches its just so fucking absurd. it's like watching a cat going full spastic with a toy

>>560272443
Has to be something with the Chinkcent shop blueprint being unable to rotate on DLC chars. Gotta be something with the code.
There's no way GW would get THAT anal over hiver cosmetics.
Like holy shit, you can make some slight additions to already existing vet cosemetics and sell them to cummers.

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Ok, my final verdict.

This should have been just a new type of a story map. Instead of a raid or investigation call it a scavenge hunt or something like that. Everytime you load in it generates a new tileset, keep the gameplay.

There was absolutely no need to make it it's own mode.

so the strat of this new mod is to scatter the team to get more ressources?

>>560273290
its being put into quickplay though so it literally is

>>560273479
pairs maybe. i wouldnt risk it unless you and your team are hyper-confident in one another's imperviousness to disablation

>>560266081
The indignatus crusher can, too.

>>560273481
Oh, it its? Nevermind then, thought it had it's own bucket.

>>560273565
I'm afraid for quickplays

>>560271027
>no one in havoc 40 runs revive speed bro, why would you need that, just have no one go down

Gonna just ignore this and go farm my havoc rank back to 40 after the reset with my fellow sweatlords while the retards are too busy getting raped in the new mode by poxwalkers. Btw alot of nerfs buffs means all our builds are gonna get reset enjoy spending 3h of rebuilding

>>560272716
The general consensus of a lot of people here and other places, people just upset that their beloved OP crutch took a minor hit and is now their beloved still-OP crutch, its also the havoc people who are complaining a lot too, probably cuz they relied on them too hard and any reduction to what carries them is an affront to their entire being

>>560274174
>Btw alot of nerfs buffs means all our builds are gonna get reset enjoy spending 3h of rebuilding
I heard it'll actually stop doing that now.

>>560270423
This
Such a meme that’s been forced
>>560271763
You don’t need the apostrophe

>>560274365
fingers crossed then this is the hardest game to come back to on major updates because of build wipes.

>>560274174
Havoc is friendslop.

>>560272809
>people becoming "bubble brained" explains a shocking amount of wipes in havoc.
I've certainly run into at least a handful of individuals that were bubble brained, but half of them were just dogshit out-of-their-depth psykers that NEVER left their bubble and insisted on daisy chaining through the level, anchoring the entire team lol. But it's rare that shitters like that even get to h40 and I don't play in the trenches. I imagine it's even worse down there.

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>castigator's stance reworked to favor dumping shotgun rounds for the entire duration
>terminus warrant reworked to favor shotguns
>no ammo economy of any kind added to arbites

SO IS TOXIC COMMANDO
ANY GOOD?
PLEASE
RESPOND

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I don't want to redo all my builds every five fucking months

>scum nerf incoming before skibidi release
every single time

So anyone here playing Commando?

>>560277073
Depends, have you played WWZ or SM2 before?
Its pretty much more Saberslop, but im having fun with it and 30 bucks is pretty reasonable as a price

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>The only change to the Rippa Guns is making the stab heavy coded
FAT FUCK HAS DOEN IT AGAIN

A lot of people use mics these days in Darktide. Cool.

>>560277213
They just implemented something to attempt to maintain build structure across tree changes
They said sometimes it'll result in broken sections that youll need to fix but youll have most or all of the previous tree intact depending on how major the changes were

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>People in Darktide use their mic
>You're on the EU server
>they're german twinks

>>560282552
I take those over slavs

>>560282691
slavgroids can't afford mics

>>560282736
Sadly, they can

>>560278876
ye I have like 200 hours between SM2 and WWZ.
Looks like an improved WWZ, is it playable with randoms?

>>560264567
RP strats
The toughness regen from bubble is barely fucking anything, nobody takes that node

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Fatshark should announce a "ratling", then just make it a beastman mutie that is literally a skaven.

>>560282736
You can get a shitty table mic for less than 10 eurobucks.

>>560282552
>/coopg/ suddenly hates twinks
what happened?

>>560282552
Germans are disgusting human beings and are second in the great cleansing.

tanner status?

>>560273481
>its being put into quickplay though

WAIT. don't tell me I'll be thrown into these missions if I quickplay

>>560280259
I’ve been lucky enough to avoid the fabled Slav and chinaman do yeah it is
>>560277073
It’s decent

>>560273290
But that's exactly what it is. It is a single map. The put it into a separate "game mode" to make an impression it took more effort to develop than it actually was.

>>560283678
calm down moshe

>>560283489
Worst image in the thread award

So after all the "fixes", does nimble actually increase dodge linger time, or is it still broken and it reduces it, or does it cancel out? I can't keep up with swede bullshittery.

>scum nerfed
>estrogen calls it a buff
????

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Chaos Wastes
Skibidi + axe
Ratling + longlas
Halberd melee
Ability to boost weapon stats to 90% then 100% one stat at a time with some time waster gil waster way.

>>560288329
pickpocket got nerfed, the rest got buffed
it's a significant nerf but everyone knew pickpocket was just infinite ammo to sell the class

>>560289721
yeah they went full retard and completely removed all aspects of "glasscannon" and now it's just a strong melee fighter that does triple damage of zealot in melee

>>560288329
>>560289721
You need to keep in mind that Estrogen cares about two things
>him, playing havoc
>his fans, being mouthbreathing retards
h40 scum already does a ton of melee anyway so the nerf barely affects them, while mouthbreathing retards can't play the game properly anyway so it doesn't affect them either.

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>add mortis trials
>undercooked meme mode
>add havoc mode
>undercooked meme mode
>add chaos wastes 0.5
>undercooked meme mode

>>560290567
I feel they should add these modes to the main console, a lot of people have no idea mortis trials even exists.

>>560268431
>>560268612
These are so bad I might just skip playing the mode entirely. At least the havoc set was good enough to slog through that garbage

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Just remove gold toughness off of shout it's so lame
There is zero reward to performing well with shout and acts as an ohshit button in the best case, and permanent invincibility in the worst
Ex is fine but 5 second reduction on his middling stealth is cringe and the ability needs to be reworked into something like huntsman that rewards making precise shots while stealthed

>>560290567
They don't even advertise these modes, or apply any real rewards or benefits to these modes. Why the flying fuck do they do this every time.

>>560290869
What?

>>560289721
Shiv light cleave got a big nerf

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>>560290567
>add mortis trials
it needs a nazi zombie like hold-out mode with unlimited waves

I'm just getting back into Darktide, add me if anyone feels like playing sometime. I played with 2 guys here last summer. Friend code 9566480975

>>560292416
Good, I fucked up my wrist by playing shivs and it's still recovering
The obscene buffs to scum melee literally cause pain to me, guess I can always take rashad with autoclicker

why would they release the gun and class info but not in patch notes form? why make us watch jewtubers?

>>560293531
Influencers get clicks, interest in [Product] goes up in the algorithm

>>560293746
Can't happen.
Not lorefull.
Give up.

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>>560293893
don't let your dreams be memes

>>560283739
i'm gooning atm

>>560293746
>>560294086
>>560293901
I've been without hope for...so long...

Is this going to be the worst update in Darktide history?

they should do a game mode that is just poker night at the inventory with darktide characters.

>>560296761
It’s insane we still don’t have some sort of bar section considering this is a Rogue Trader’s ship. Though I guess you could say that we’re not worth such luxuries or something.

>>560297582
we could have a DRG bar section. our status is all over the place but seeing as we don't hang out with a bunch of mutants in rags in the industrial underbelly, we could definitely have a small recreation area.

>>560297921
>>560297582
The Melk introduction cinematic shows a bar.

>>560292416
A super mega giga nerf. I don't think they can cleave a single havoc poxwalker.

whats even the difference between knife and shivs?

>>560299584
The part where it has higher attack speed and finesse damage or the part where they copied the most broken part of the dueling sword or the part where they just added zealot's blitz as a special ability

>>560299138
Shivs are currently ridiculously overpowered so I can see why they did it, especially if they wanted to buff melee talents even more.
It's the only change that makes sense.
I still hate the patch because they destroyed the niche of medium range elite/specialist killer with that pickpocket change, because you need to go in melee to get that elite kill and trigger pickpocket. Pickpocket will be completely fucking useless for majority of scum weapons, it will only work for bolt pistol.

>>560300013
Just stab a dog once in a while, you big baby.

>>560300436
scum weapons have tiny ammo pool so 20% of that is like 2 mags, even with current pickpocket you can run out of ammo if you have a psyker with soulblaze on your team stealing kills, what if the game doesn't throw dogs at you every 20 seconds?
And of course I forgot about another weapon that will work with this new pickpocket, that's a fucking needle pistol. They decided everyone should be running rampage, chem dependency and needler. Who needs options?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQT0Sjg0u2g this video has less yapping and more information
I don't understand new terminus warrant modifiers on arbites, spending 20 stacks activates a buff? but each stack gives a buff for 12 seconds, so 20 stacks would take 240 seconds to expire? What am I missing?

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>>560292416
deserved tho. they were better dueling swords. The cleave is absolutely unneeded, the has so many tools to cleave, now he has to use them to balance out using the dueling sword equivalent.

>>560300667
That's a good thing though. It's good that the class can actually run out of ammo and suffer from being low ammo if they shoot indiscriminately. Having a ranged-only class was always a dogshit idea, and Psyker was meant to be balanced via peril but that also stopped being relevant so that's also still fucked. But at least his staves tend to have limited usecases unlike guns.

>>560301381
Yeah and now we have a paid class that does everything other 3 classes do but better. And does nothing else.

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thanks fatshit