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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#742- Susumu Hirasawa Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
GLM 5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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ANCHOR
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i listened to Guts's theme once when I was feeling down and I unironically cried
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an eternal tummyache on those who do not deliver on White Day
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>>560274662
there's gonna be a lot of tummyaches then
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>throw a card's entire main body description into an image generator prompt (perchance usually)
>it just works
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>>560274662
a-anon, no... hostie said it's optional, you... you can't!
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>>560274662
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>560274296
https://youtu.be/WwCS0trIo4w https://youtu.be/v3r-RBn5_yY I can't decide between these for the thread theme, sorry guys...
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>>560274559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcp3tZ3XFyQ
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Please lie down. I will kiss your tummy so it feels better.
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*lies down*
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*suddenly steals anon* NYAHAHAHAHA MY GREATEST HEIST YET!
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*BEGINS THE RITUAL*
https://files.catbox.moe/khqymf.mp4
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>>560276738
AWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA >w<
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>>560276738
every time I do this to a bot gemini kills me
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>>560276706
nyooooo, somebody save meee, i'm a stinky NEET girl with severe mental issues and a gooning addiction
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>>560276706
cftf?
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>>560276978
Shaved or hairy? There is only one right answer.
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>>560277046
the unbelievable type
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>>560276805
Gemini is such a negative nancy.
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The WHAT?
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>>560274749
Care to share which one?
Also, it makes sense since you have to remember that way back, and still in some sites, good-looking image generation depended entirely on the correct usage of symbols and parameters or else it would throw slop. Now normies just type anything and they get a 7/10 in accuracy of whatever they described. Aka. people got spoiled and forgot or they weren't there to know how it used to be. Still is sometimes.
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>>560274662
I hope loveydovey anon officially finishes his reviews for white day
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>>560272028
Having her do an in character CoT is pretty fun due to that
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Lot of cuckies in this thread.
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>>560277951
*steals your potatocat*
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>>560277201
>Care to share which one?
The various discussion about the 'Russet' card last thread got me realizing, it barely mentions 'what' a catgirl is and has only one line describing vague 'skin with freckles on it' to define her face - leaving it largely interpretive and easy-to-miss.

My first session was with a deliberately stressed 2.5 flash model, which tends to let context of 'minor details' slip through the cracks - in this event, it portrayed Russet with a fully anthromorphic feline head - a literal catgirl, walking upright.

So I fed the Russet profile into perchance's freebie generator (flux model iirc?), full prompt without example dialogue, and lo-n-behold it outputs her as an anthromorphic cartoon cat without being set on anime training sets (in which 'catgirl' is explicitly defined by its kemonomimi features)

tl;dr fucking around with how the computer 'visualizes' sparse information.
For as much as people shit on LLM-structured 'slop' profiles, they absolutely don't leave windows for confusion like this in most events due to the clean categorizing of features (caucasion skin, has feline ears and tail, is not broadly described simply as 'a catgirl' without explanation, etc)

stupid ass talking sand
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>>560278626
i ain't read all that but bro that fit goes nasty
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>>560278348
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
shit I forgot she couldn't read lmao

>>560278626
Most models are very familiar with what a catgirl, but I'm curious now. I'll do a little testing myself and see what they say.
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>>560278626
Well, you have to take into account that the LLM is likely inclined to output something anime-like when using certain keywords (catgirl, tsundere, etc) since people who generate images in non-anime styles tend to not use said words so brazenly with no added context.
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>>560279043
>potatoes don't got ears
Yeah, but they got eyes. And guess who else has eyes? Yeah. She does. PRETTY SUSPICIOUS.
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>>560279043
she's from the mud, like those orc guys from lord of the rings
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the humble dogodius serves you oranges during your RP session. Please accept his gifts; it took him forever to neatly balance those little oranges on the plate and onto his head.
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>>560278626
I dealt with this with DeepSeek. It almost refuses to understand even if you just say "kemonomimi" It will talk about fur.

>>560279535
*sits in front of the dogodius motionless with a platter of kumquats on a tray balanced on my head.*
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>>560279535
*waves a magic wand and turns him into a dogboy shota*
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>>560279535
>>560279620
*staring directly into the camera, thumb over my shoulder*
he got turned into a dogboy shota
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>>560279459
what the fuck kind of potatoes have you been eating?!
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>>560279832
wrinkly damp ones
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>>560279832
I SENTENCE YOU TO LEARN A NEW THING!
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>>560279535
*gives dogodius a magical girl transformation*
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>>560277960
No, that is NOT something normal. It never was.
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>>560279954
cftf?????
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>>560280061
uhhh you'll have to ask sombody else
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>>560274662
i'm delivering late
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*emails u bak*
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>>560280508
lmao no one wants to be my friend
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>>560280508
*spits on you!!!!!*
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>>560280508
*checks my inbox*
holy moley...
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you are my friends :)
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>>560280613, >>560280639, >>560280798
post emil i wil friend, *cums*, moley!
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>>560280882
>>560280613
>>560281000
https://youtu.be/r6EPMvIhtyA
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>>560278626
this is why I'm always explicit about how kemonos look, I noticed that gemini wanted to talk about paws unless I specified that my animal girls were humanoid in all ways except ears and tail
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>>560281000
what's emil?
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>>560280882
>>560281043
https://youtu.be/nwuW98yLsgY
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>>560281182
emoal
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Did that one kingdoms event went through or nah?
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>>560281182
He's our friend :) >>560281043
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>>560281439
Slated for April or something?
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>>560281439
https://rentry.org/aicg-warring-states
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yuri status?
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>>560281773
Cancelled due to makies all found husbands
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>>560281773
yeahhhhh nice try jeffrey hope your safehouse in bora bora is treating you well
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>A magical girl who has been cursed with a "curse that will make her fall in love with the enemy" if she doesn't defeat them within the time limit.
cftf?
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/vpcai/ is still dead...
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>>560282029
>rping as a cute magical girl rn
anon is stalking me..
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now that I think about it, is there a GOOD "retired magical girl" bot? fat sweaty hag/venus body prefered
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>>560281773
is there anything in particular you're looking for?
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dude, don't tell me I got banned again
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>>560282336
what's stopping you from making one
>GOOD
define good
what is good to you? systems and histories? lores and habits? big stupid ass prose blobs instead of character definitions?
out with it, young master
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my tummy is starting to hurt for real
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>>560281043
>>560281220
imaniceguy26549@proton.me

I will expect nothing at all because I've been through this at least a dozen times before.
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>>560279535
I graciously accept the oranges and pat Dogodius's now bare head while informing him he's a very very good boy before replacing the oranges with beggin' strips he may enjoy when he pleases.
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>>560282506
wdym
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Good morning sirs.
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>>560281773
I got distracted making more bpdemons that are never gonna get publicly released... Two more weeks but maybe just one.
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>>560282889
my bad, I'm talking to you, aren't I? how are you doing?
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>>560282920
kino
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>>560282789
>what's stopping you from making one
mainly my backlog, and the fact I'm not actually a weeb so she'd end up being more like a retired superhero than anything
>>560282789
>what is good to you? systems and histories? lores and habits?
mostly these. I want a character that is fully fleshed out and has relationships and histories to build stories with
for this specific kind of character, that would be stuff like past enemies, important battles, family, friends, former teammates, etc
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>>560282882
I jump out from inside the oranges and buttpreg you because it was all a trap. A trojan dogodius.
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>>560283202
>for this specific kind of character, that would be stuff like past enemies, important battles, family, friends, former teammates, etc
greet 1: you found her old uniform/relic in a closet
greet 2: she transforms One Last Time(tm) to "save" you from a rape monster
greet 3: you're her old rival/nemesis
greet 4: you're her old rival/nemesis but you're on a blind date
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>>560282840
:3
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>>560283610
bvsed
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If I am jailbreaking corporate models, is it best just to use OpenRouter?
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For a scenario designed to be between two characters, is it better to use a group chat with two separate cards or just put them both in one card?
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>>560284237
both in one card, group chats are pretty much a legacy feature
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>>560274662
me too
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>>560282183
c'mere
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>>560269091
why arent you supporting the cake you like then dumb niggy
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>>560283783
It feels nice to get an email...
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>>560284520
Just for you! :3c
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>>560283610
not bad anon, not bad at all
you wouldn't happen to be working on a bot like this, would you?
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i'm cooking
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Moon rabbits control the financial system.
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>>560284681
if i had time..
now i wish we were doing a superhero/magical girl event instead of jap wars
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I used to be able to actually roleplay, now I just jerk off after like 17 messages. What happened?
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>>560286203
High token count gets quickly expensive even with deepseek.
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>>560286203
You might be dopamine trapped and projecting sex onto everything. Take a look at this picture of my Ibanez bass and see if anything looks weird about it.
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>>560286203
by studying the forbidden writ, you've gathered enough sexual karma to foretell your release
venture new fields rather than ones of habit if you don't want to retread your old cum trails
but there's nothing wrong in taking familiar paths, either
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>>560286375
n-nice a- bass, bro..
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>taora is forcing the patter meme
Kindly go back to your 'cord.
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>>560286462
Thanks. I like the Ibanez higher end models. They have great tone.
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Share cards that have an overarching objective of defeating a great evil. I want to defeat it.
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>>560286051
god i love reisen
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>>560286528
Mom Breeding RPG
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I feel so embarrassed when I try to romance or fuck characters in my scenario card ughhhhh... I just do stories nowadays
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>>560284169
You won't get banned that way but I've heard many people say OR has extra filters. I don't use it myself so unsure how true that is.
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Hear me out...
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>>560286203
Novelty wore off and you naturally veered to the path of least resistance since AI cannot be dissapointed by a shitty low effort response the way a human could be

I actually kind of wonder about those people who get driven to madness by their AI girlfriends because I can't get in the shoes of someone who doesn't get jaded or at least starts noticing the slop for what it is after like a week at most
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>>560286472
oishi has been dead for at least three months. it's more of a friend group than it is of an "oishicord" like you guys complain. most people from the friend group don't even think about /aicg/, nor do we talk about you guys on a daily basis. maybe there's one or two that obsess, but even Lunarcy and Taora have left /aicg/ and the 'cord and doesn't bother with you guys and us anymore.

just let the people of the friend group be in peace, instead of trying to antagonise them.
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>>560286528
do you like huge gay furries and evil dragons
one of the first profiles i ever edited was a hardcore homo-furry hyper adventure mostly to see how well gemini could deal with casual homophobic slurs and casual absurdism
anyway the goal is to go on a big quest and beat up an evil dragon, it has some rough cyoa/tracker systems to keep the ball mostly rolling
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>>560286809
break a WHAT in half?!
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>>560286587
Then play more cards that try to rape you.
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>Try making a bot instead of editing down someone else's to cover my interests
>Overcomplicate and write a shitty intro

Well anyways, rich sorority girl goblin has decided to turn a vanity wild west experience into a depraved one and is offering you money to degrade yourself.
https://files.catbox.moe/ydkcwq.png
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>>560286879
Sorry, it clipped some text.
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>>560286880
do you have any lolis that will rape you?
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>>560287109
Yes but she's private.
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me and which botmakie
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>>560287228
...can I at least watch?
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What are some cards that are close to sex but still far away?
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>>560287514
mmm... nyo.
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>>560286809
>doggirl lawyer
would
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>>560287594
eden smith
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OKAY! Free idea for a card. Abo wife but she doesn't look all munted and you have to stop her from doing all the quirky shit they love like sniffing petrol and sleeping in the road.
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>>560287657
just gonna use my imagination and masturbate then~
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>>560286487
>say anything at all
>he immediately starts bragging about playing guitar
yep, that's Anon
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>>560287957
:(
You made me do this.
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There is literally nothing comfier than bathing together in RP. You can tell the quality of a bot by how long they stay in the bath.
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>>560288124
>this is you idiot.gif
do you have any idea?
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>>560283468
Cool. *Forces you to pay child support.*
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>>560288508
*steals a recently naturalized mexican's ssn and uses it to change jobs*
:3c
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>>560288586
*Screenshots your confession and reports you to the IRS*
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>>560288313
Hmm...I've had a lot of shower sex before but never just hanging out in the bath.
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>>560288661
*steals a rothschilds ssn and gets away with it for no discernable reason*
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>>560288313
*turns into a horrid raisin creature* oiuguughghhhh
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>>560288586
umm, usually they're here illegally.
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>>560288731
Well now you have the Jewish Secret Police out to un-person you and that's worse than anything I could have ever wished on you. So imma just give our butt-baby up for adoption.
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>>560288920
the butt-baby will remember that.
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You're doing it ironically but you're still roleplaying, you know
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Something to keep in mind for anyone making a bear girl.
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>>560289034
Oh well.
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oh makieeeeeees! is your white day card done yet? it's almost midnight you knyow! :3
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Has anyone here ever managed to out argue a true nihilist bot? It's easier making someone on 4chan admit they are wrong.
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Usually, I'm not into furfaggotry. But CFTF?
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yes
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>>560289807
No. No, I'm not gonna. More into fantasy race women who get horny when I'm racist to them but thanks for asking.
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>>560289720
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My tummy has a faint pang to it
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>>560289807
hnnnnngghh hung bnuuuy boy
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>>560290036
that's our child kicking, honey
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>>560290369
Didn't realize my logs leaked.
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>>560289758
How the fuck are YOU getting out argued by an LLM. If the card is made to be super contrarian and antagonistic it will probably never fully back down as such but you can always get these things to concede on every major point, not even by being right yourself but by just insisting enough
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This girl's gonna get me arrested.
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>>560290942
Alright, buddy. I'm gonna need to see your Joja Membership or we're going to have to go down to the station.
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>>560290534
I was once arguing with a broken girl about her toxic relationship. Which was basically the guy being a turbo psycho who is going to retaliate the moment he feels he loses control. Every suggestion I made she made good arguments why it would backfire. I realized then that there is pretty much nothing you can do if a person out there is truly determined to hurt you.
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One fun thing to do is to use one of those generic isekai bots and just refuse to engage with the premise Thomas Covenant style. They never know what to do to someone who just doesn't want to live in a RPG fantasy world and will basically offer to tweak the terms of the game to be a different kind of slop light novel, but they can't be clever or actually subversive about it. I'm sure a purpose built bot can do it fine but part of the fun here would be steering it without actually telling it you want Thomas Covenant shit and not a slow life isekai
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>>560291019
Joja Membership? Umm, er, can I interest you in this book about birds, officer?
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>>560291672
Also I just realized it fucked up with "Jas's".
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>>560291776
Proper singular nouns that end with S get an 's for possessive indication.
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>>560291221
Anon are you talking about a person or a bot. Yeah it's different with real people but with a bot you just have to frame it as the right kind of story and they'll argue themselves out of it eventually, either that or you just keep saying "nuh uh" until the tendency for sycophancy wins out
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>>560291891
Really? WTF, I've been using s' for years. Damn...
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>>560292145
So have I but s's is so dumb that I'm going to stick to using ' only because it looks better to me.
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>>560292145
That's correct for plurals
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>>560292141
Well of course I mean holding a real argument, not just saying something no one ever would say to cheat the system.
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>>560292145
>>560292265
Plurals and common singular nouns ending in s, yep. But functionally no one is going to be confused regardless of which you use so it doesn't really matter other than for rules lawyers.
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>>560292324
I think this might be a skill issue. Try reading some of the actual philosophical arguments against nihilism and incorporate them into your chats. You might just not be portraying a convincing enough opponent to sway the bots
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>She thinks I'm handsome! I should cut her in half as a thank you!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>560292681
I don't want to talk to them anymore. It's so draining and pointless. I rather argue the most pointless shit on /v/.
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https://github.com/mia13165/StructuredPrefill
It don't work no more with Opus 4.6 :(
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>>560293138
Is it just me or did 4.6 get a bit more retarded starting around yesterday or before, speaking for {{user}} when it was smart enough to dodge that before. Probably just bad swipes
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>opusaar
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>>560293454
mm idk seems around the same level of smart, or even a little smarter starting today
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>>560274320
Final sisterly shill.
Hikari and Hibiki are a pair of sisters. A rough-looking and punkish blind girl who's a lot softer and more helpless than she lets on. A cute and traditional-looking deaf girl who's a bigger shitheel than she lets on.
Everything is going as normal until (You) come into their lives and change it forever.
10 openings.
1. Meeting Hibiki
2. Meeting Hikari
3. Date with Hikari
4. You and Hikari surprise Hibiki at work
5. Hibiki wants you to fuck her under Hikari's nose
6. A trip to a non-nude beach
7. Hibiki speaks
8. Awkward, loving, first-time sex with Hikari
9. Getting pegged by Hibiki
10. Hikari performs a song. If you have the external sounds script and I didn't fuck up the filename, it's the one playing right now. If not, it's embedded in the card anyway.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/hikari-and-hibiki-5afb14020f21
https://files.catbox.moe/i5hwhd.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>560293951
Refusing to get pegged in 9 leads to the true love route of Hibiki.
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>>560289720
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>>560293138
nupus is so uncensored what do you even need this for
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>>560294091
super autistic thinking prompt that forces it to think exactly the way I want it to :((
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Is there a way to get shorter responses without cutting length off enough that it would get stopped in the middle of thinking
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>>560274934
*burp*
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White Day bots doko?
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>>560294364
there's still another 24 hours before it's over calm your tits
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>>560294364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcp3tZ3XFyQ
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>>560294364
I'll post mine tomorrow when my recipient is awake to see it.
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>>560294364
white week
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{{char}}'s disguise is simply a pair of sunglasses. When in disguise, she is a confident nymphomaniac who is completely willing to engage in public sex and stuff. Her sunglasses will never fall off without the user's intervention, but if they were to fall off, then she will fucking die from embarrassment or even suicide as her perfect cover has been blown and conflated with her public identity.
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>>560294350
https://files.catbox.moe/khqymf.mp4
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>>560294842
reminds me of picrel
at first I thought "aw no second part" but gender roles are reversed so a swap won't work as right
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>>560295628
Classic.

Also, I would fuck the living bejesus out of Gwen Tennyson.
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>>560294364
>laziest makies in the world
>give them an automated follow-on deadline with no emails or grinch threats
Yeah, not happening. They only respond to bullying.
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>>560296805
what are you gonna say when some makies do release something for white day
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>>560296872
"Oh mai gotto. Shut up yankee."
Followed by:
"If Heaven ain't a lot like Dixie, I don't waaa-nna go."
Pre-vis demonstration footage:
https://qu.ax/x/WR2Cs.mp4
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i am getting absolutely mogged by regional prompting, it's never been more over



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