No Innocents Edition>Previous>>560246468>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSJan 22 Redacted Regiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKkFeb 03 Siege Breakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9E9-iGwK_4Feb 04 A Bastion of Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ZhrAP7k6YFeb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0>LATEST PATCHESFeb 03 1.006.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/506226349467240138Feb 10 1.006.003 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541129880857741482
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i do not like the peepee mist
I like shield grenades.
>>560312859>fogdiversABSOLUTE KINO
*disables your sentry and kung pows it to death*Nothing personnel, Helldiver.
>>560312852No one here actually plays this game.
>>560312920this looks way too useful and fun.nerf when?
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Let's say that I have decided that going for the grenade hatch is the fastest way to eliminate Vox Engines. What loadout would best facilitate this while also being able to kill Hulks and War Striders relatively reliably?I assume that Warp Pack will allow me to more easily close the distance. Maybe Medic armor to give myself that Stim boost needed to survive the gauntlet. Blowing up the vents is child's play, but what grenade best suits the final toss? I've become too accustomed to using Dynamite to blow up Fabricators, and it works against me for Vox killing since it has the 5-second delay and reduced carry limit. Frags are the most "obvious" solution since you can carry 6 of them, but they generally aren't that handy against regular bots. Maybe the HE grenade is the best compromise?
>>560312920Does it prevent you from getting ragdolled when firing the silo while being next to it?
Joel izzat status?
In terms of balance I cannot think of something more retarded and overpowered than this thing. Realistically there's no reason to ever run something else. If it had 6 ammo and was a primary it would be undisputed S tier.Just the idea you get to choose between a 9mm pistol or nuke launcher which deletes everything is absurd
>>560312920I knew those little fuckers had to be good for something.>>560313184The balancing factor is it's being wielded by Helldivers players which means it will be fragging an ally or misfired after an accidental weapon switch about 33% of the time.
>>560313184Bro, it's not THAT good.
>>560313184>Doesnt twirl when I open the weapon menuIt's dogshit.
>>560313184it has no contenders because all other secondaries SUCK.too low ammotoo low damageand most importatnly secondary handling is absolute ASSultimatum solves all that shit>too low ammo is not an issue cuz its powerful>absolute bonkers damage while every other secondary sucks ass>handling irrelvant since it is a single-shot weaponthey need to quadruple ammo reserves for secondaries to be even remotely viable.
>>>560312945The explosive crossbow is a fictional weapon, no one will use it if it's even a little bit realistic. Also, a belt-fed grenade launcher most likely does not have a 40mm caliber, the barrel and belt are too small. Most likely, there is a mistake on the wiki and it is 25-30mm.
>>560313343>too low ammo>too low damage
>>560313116Yes it will block the proximity ragdoll from the silo. It prevents all vicinity ragdolling as long as you're within the shield, that includes stuff like war strider grenades etc, as long as it happens outside of the shield, none of the ragdoll force translates through the shield.
>>560313184I don't even want to use this shit lol, not all of us are meta nigger-degenerates.I use the senator just because it sounds cool and the bugs pop funny from my shots.
>>560312160I've been a tesla tower enjoyer lately. Less so against the bots of course, but still.
So will getting the minus 25 million for the kill requirement actually make it doable?
>>560313116Yes. The way the shield works is it blocks everything that would otherwise impact your character until the shield breaks.
>>560313430>forced to stop shooting after 6 shots or risk overheatingwew.meanwhile the ultimatum blew that 9 enemy group into smithereens.
>>560313582you're trying too hard.
>>560312920I love these dumb things. Taking extra nades and the supply pack is great fun.
>>560313184Ok but this thing is gonna have a stripper clip reload animation.
>>560313184>Realistically there's no reason to ever run something else.Leveler does more and has infinite ammo. In terms of other side arms, the Senator is objectively better but just like that retard who thinks turrets suck; its a skill issue. If you suck at aiming of course this one trick pony will work better.
>>560313671Can you stick them to vehicles for extra protection? Or to give the tank shaft some balls?
Did this cyborg salute me?
>>560312920What are some good loadout synergies for these things?
>>560313582>using one of only two shots on 9 enemies >when most primaries could deal with those with no issueI see the type of player the ultimatum attracts.
>>560313678And goes ding. Now all its needs is heavy pen as well so I can snipe Hulks from a mile away. >>560313735I think they bounce off the vehicles but I can't remember.
>>560313330It's a fix-all tool. It's absolutely bonkers.>3 war striders drop in front of you>lob a mini-nuke at them>problem solved
>>560313720>someone says the rocket sentry isn't that great>this means all sentries suckwew lad
>>560313775>One Eagle strafing run
>>560313678>another medium pen secondary that will be worse than the talonjust what I needed
>>560313741Taunting maybe.
>>560313792You would have a point except he literally said all sentries suck.
>just noticed anon already said "bonkers">now we look like a bunch of samefagsFUCK
>>560313741Looks like his AI reset and he lost sight of you.
>>560313720>I will delete this bile titan and charger with my senator through my superior aim!
>>560313819>that will be worse than the talonTalon doesn't have a stripper clip reload animation so it's about a tie.
What is the absolute BEST 10/10 SSSS++++ tier primary to bring for Cyborgs? I'm tired of dealing with these obnoxious faggots
>>560313735They're supposed to be "sticky", so you'd think so, but that would be fun and useful, so no. They don't.
>>560313857where?
>>560313832Yeah that's what I thought in the moment, a sarcastic salute and it was just as I ran out of ammo too.
>>560313930Punisher Plasma
>>560313762>>560313947Sad.
>>560313930Censor and Amendment
>>560313930Blitzer
>>560313741Unrecoverable izzat loss. Diaper shield babs in SHAMBLES
>>560313964Plasma pun can't destroy the vents on the Vox
>>560313396>Most likely, there is a mistake on the wiki and it is 25-30mmlmaoing @ deluluvalues are taken straight from the game files
>>560313894>Bug diver
>>560313930Probably the Purifier. It can killmurder any non-heavy enemy the bots throw at you, can shoot down Gunships in 2-3 shots, and kills Cyborgs in just two charged shots.
>>560314139Vents?
>>560313930True meta slave weapons are punisher plasma, purifier, scorcher and the Democratic Detonation duo
>>560314139>still having trouble with VoxKWAB
>>560313743Any loadout that contains ATE as it lets you protect yourself on the throne without needing to use the big shield relay.Loadouts that use charge weapons also benefit as the shield will protect you from the possibility of being flinched whilst charging, Purifier/Epoch especially benefit due to how disastrous misfiring them can be.The shield will also protect you from melee attacks as long as the attacker is outside of the bubble.
>>560313930Diligence and Censor still solve the most problems on the bot front out of any primary. 1shs to kill the radicals, 3shs for agitators.
>>560314149Retard, pajeets who does programming this shit simply copied code of a 40mm projectile and changed the damage variable.
I miss them...
>>560313930libcarb
>>560314162>I will use my superior aim to take down this pack of War Strider and then deal with the Factory Strider using my trusty old iron!>Huh? Someone deleted them with 1 shot of his pistol while I am 3 resupplies in? What a noob!
>>560313743i like using it with the expendable grenade launcher
>>560314162>The Raped
>>560314326>an automatic grenade launcher based on the mk19 does not fire 40mm because... it just doesn't, shut up!alright man
guys can you notify me when moon map opens up?
Alright, I think the pee fog crashes the game for me.
Level 90000 invasion on copessa imminent to prevent izzat loss.
>>560314385I'll never get over how fucking gay a tank without a turret is.
>>560313857still waiting for you to show me. You can show me which post in the last thread he said that, right?
>>560314534Tank killers were Germany's most effective armor in WW2. If you were Media Literate™ you'd know this is a fascism classic!
>>560313563no they only do that so they can say we lowered the number get gud chud
>>560314534It's a tank destroyer, not a tank.
>>560314547Balls are touching
>>560314534i really like tank destroyers
>>560314651american tank destroyers had turretsyet again US engineering prowess mogs the european brutes
>>560314534Taste this bad could only come from a bugshitter
>>560313184No reason to use other secondaries when primaries do their job well and whatever specialized secondaries can do it can't do the job as well as it's marketed to do. Especially with the drag and sway fuckery.>Peacemaker, Redeemer & SOCOMUse literally any primary.>Warrant & VerdictPick any AP3 Primary and get good aim.>Melee of any kindlol. lmao even>BushwhackerUse Double Freedom. Or any other shotgun, really.>DaggerUse Scythe. Also HD1 Tanto > HD2 Dagger.>LoyalistUse purifier.>Stim pistolIf you enjoy pretending that you're helping people with its dogshit heal and everyone bringing supply packs thesedays, sure. Also good luck hitting anything with that sway.>Re-educatorPointless to CC when you can just kill enemies with something else.Which leaves us with>TalonGood if you're trying to level dogshit primaries like the blitzer.>Grenade pistolGood if you haven't bought the ultimatum yet. Even then you can always just pick engineering kit+crutch pack to delete bug holes and then have an ultimatum to deal with heavies.>CrisperDecent for illuminates and bots to kill tanks and factory striders if you can get under it. But whatever this thing can do in the squid front other weapons do it better and for the cyborg front, this thing probably can't even kill a single vox.>SenatorOnly use it if you really do not have a dedicated AP4 support weapon i guess? It's only good against hulks that are close to you and are kind enough not to turn the other cheek while lumbering to smack you.>inb4 skill issueEnjoy eating shit then. I'm blowing things up with my ultimatum.
>>560314547
>>560314534extremely brown coded post
>>560314793in during skill issue
why don't they add parking to the warthog so i don't have to slide around if i want to wheel it around like a turret
i'm falling in love with the transma5c
>>560314651>It's a tank destroyer, not a tank.
>>560314793Have you ever considered using weapons because they're fun?
>>560314793>he needs a secondary weapon that has a purposeholy mother of skill issue
>>560312920Either this is lies, it doesn't work for the host or hellbomb and OPS ignore it.
>>560314534In fact, it is an assault gun, not a tank.A cheap piece of shit without a turret, whose main task is to move forward and cover the infantry with cannon fire.
>>560315019I actually do when i want to wind down on D6 and below, yeah.
It's nice to be able to make custom surge missions now.
>>560315150chaff spam is just so much more fun compared to heavy unit spam like with vox
>>560315132Having fun is a reason to use other secondaries.
>>560315229I dunno, Hulkamania was pretty fun. Literally the only time in the history of the game where Anti-Tank Mines were useful.
>>560314385we really need new voices I cannot believe how tired I am of the handful we got
>>560315229For me it's hunter-spam.I love those little goofballs and their hippity hoppity animations.
>>560315150throws a strafing run
>>560314590>>560314651>>560314687I want some nerds to explain to me what makes a "tank destroyer" a tank destroyer.Does the lack of rotating turret allows for bigger ammuniton? Can't tanks already destroy each other? If rotating turret is so unomptimal why the fuck didn't all tanks became tank destroyer design? What's the point of rotating turret then if it's so shit and the tank can just rotate in place anyway?Some nerd better tell me or I'm giving you a swirly.
>>560315252Intentionally wasting a secondary slot on D10 borgs is a reason too but hey, don't worry, i get it you're just too good at the game and i have skill issues.
>>560315346I love predator strain. I wish all bug missions were predator strain and that spore chargers didn't exist.
>>560314783>>560314894>hobby military historians are too busy cumming over themselves to acknowledge that the way this type of vehicle plays out in the video game is infinitely less fun for both driver and gunner than the tried and true tank that's already in a million other games
>>560315398tank destroyer is a mission designationit's any vehicle whose main purpose is specifically fighting other tanks, i.e an atgm carrier, or in ww2, usually a low profile, often casemate vehicle with a heavier gun than its contemporaries
>>560315229I do find myself leaning towards liking fighting back against the chaff swarms more than the big enemies. Except the hivelord, I like the hivelord fight.
>>560315415I think you should calm down man. I never said any of that. I just think you should stop worrying so much about what the meta is.
>>560315150Bots. Berserker Only.Assault Rifles only.Peacemaker/Redeemer only.Any grenades.Support weapons must be machine guns of any kind.Gatling + MG Sentry and OGS.By the time the mission's done everyone should have at least 2 thousand shots fired.What do you think?
>>560315039For Hellbombs and 500KGs you need to be in the outer radius of the explosion to survive, if you're in the inner radius then the inner explosion will break the shield and the outer radius explosion will kill you, but if you're in the outer radius, only the outer explosion will hit the shield, which it will tank for you.For OPS and similar objects that have both impact+explosive damage you need to not be directly hit by the shell, otherwise the shell's impact will break the shield and the explosion will kill you. But this obviously doesn't matter if you're the one firing something like a leveller or ultimeme shot outside of the shield, because then the impact won't hit the shield, so the explosion is the only damage source to consider which the shield will tank.
>>560315543I'd love to try this. Unfortunately every time I've tried swapping bot spawns around it causes crashes. The only stable lobbies with enemy spawn replacements are bugs and squids.
>>560315453No, we're just laughing at your shit taste
this planet sucks
>>560315398Different countries had different design philosophies. But the general idea is that a tank destroyer is not built to slug it out with another tank, its purpose is to kill other tanks. That generally means that armor designed to stop tank rounds is optional, and they instead simply try to kill the enemy tank by shooting first or shooting from a position where the enemy can't easily shoot back. You can accomplish that with a bigger gun (penetrate the enemy tank's armor with that one shot and kill it) or speed and ambush (shoot first, then run away before the enemy tank shoots back).In terms of rotating turrets, some tank destroyers had them, but the problem is that you have to heavily armor a part of the vehicle that then has to rotate and contain a big gun. If you don't put as much armor on the turret, then you can get more performance out of the engine while also freeing up space in the turret for comfort, a bigger gun, or even an open top to let the crew just stick their head out and look around for improved situational awareness. Removing the turret entirely and just giving it a casemate saves even more weight. Remember, if your vehicle is designed to ambush and make that first shot count, then you're already going to be in a prepared position with your vehicle pointed in the right direction and thus the turret isn't even needed. In a situation where you need heavy armor and a turret to be able to engage enemies in multiple directions without rotating the whole vehicle itself, that's what tanks are for.
>>560314439Moon biome is any time now.
>>560315935Wuts this? I want snow bugs!
>>560315453"Point front towards enemy" is not a complicated concept, Pablo. And I've done it in many other games.
>>560315453>don't enjoy cooperation>play a vehicle that requires cooperation in a cooperative gamehmmmm
>>560315453There are too many arguments why this tank should not have turrets.1) It's cheap and it lightens the weight for transportation by plane.2) This forces the driver and gunner to cooperate more with each other, which is important in a coop game.3) The tank would be unbalanced with the turret, let's admit it. The game is already terribly easy, I don't want it to be any easier.
>>560315398Tank nerds have endless debates on what qualifies as a tank destroyer actually
>>560316196Solo D10 cyborg proofs?
>>560316196>sensible explanation /hdg/ will seethe at
>>560316017No one said anything about complicated, it just fucking sucks. The driver drives AND points the gun, which makes the driving worse, while the gunner just sits there and picks their nose until their sole task of confirming that they are in fact looking at a target by clicking once. It's literally just less fun for both parties.>>560316076How exactly would letting the gunner swivel the gun on a turret not require cooperation?>>560316196That's nice, but unfortunately democracy protected me against your post.
>>560315398People can't even explain to you what is and isn't a tank so don't even try.It's like asking someone at which point a pond becomes a lake
I got enough screddies to buy a warbond. Democratic Detonation or Cutting Edge?
Is it so hard to just have a Tankette?
Despite all the shitposts, you know exactly why swiggers decided the Bastion to not have a turret, because fuck you and they wanted you to struggle shooting and driving that piece of shit around. Making it suck ass on purpose and since it's a "tank destroyer not a tank!!!" they also get glazers and armchair historians to defend their retarded idea for an armored vehicle to the end, 2 birds 1 stone. You can't have fun and you will have a bunch of faggot nerds telling you it's supposed to be shit because realism or something.
>>560316670Demo Det.
>>560316719Tankettes are for helldiverlets, not helldivers.
>>560316780Just wait for the HAV. The HAV from HD1 had a turret with the same gun size as HD1 Bastion. Its only downside was the lower ammo reserve.
>>560316670Democratic Detonation, easily. Cutting Edge has pretty meh content but is still something you should grab sooner rather than later.
>>560316967HAV was also the last stratagem added to the game because it ended up trivializing everything the game had to offer but the boss fights
>>560316780There's all that, but it's also just because it was like that in the first game. Unfortunately things that work in 1 because of its shared screen top down nature are considerably more shit in 2, especially mechanics like team reloading, which I've probably seen people do less than five times the entire time I've played this game.
>>560317107I've tried to team reload people, but it's fucking impossible because they take out their weapon, instantly fire it and instantly mash the reload button making it impossible.
>>560317107>>560317223Maybe if you could team reload people without having to have THEIR backpack on you you'd see it more often. That restriction adds so much unnecessary friction to the process.
>almost 140 replies>no lobbydoko
>Adreno-DefibrillatorWhich moron made this shit and which idiot would use it?
>>560317036HAV was added along in the base game you glazediving lying nigger retard fuck.
What are the current bugs that cause your immediate causeless death?
>>560317585>extra stim duration>arc damage reduction>a meme short duration reviveThe only issue with the armor is how shit it looks.
>>560316780>Making it suck ass on purposeLower the difficulty.
>>560317687hellpod into lava, I think there was some new bug introduced with cyborg worlds that basically made you die on spot without any apparent cause
heavy flamies
>>560317585I am that idiot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXR_x0uau0cWouldn't have used it without that mod though.
>>560317687wearing python commando armor makes you crater into the ground for 10 gorillion damage
>>560315398>what makes a "tank destroyer" a tank destroyer.Lack of tower mean you can place bigger cannon, have more frontal armor and lower silhouette. All of this is advantages in battle vehicle vs vehicle.Lack of tower mean you have worse vision and a lot more efforts for fire solution. All of this is disadvantage in battle vehicle vs infantry.
>>560317585It's memey, but I do enjoy using it on squids, especially when combined with Stim Pistol. It's far more fashionable than Med Kit, though I will admit that the revive would be a lot better if the HP drain was time-limited so that you had the option to self-preserve instead of last-standing.
Why do vehicles have to be so disappointing
>>560317585>>560317771Reminder that more than half a year later this piece of shit passive still kills you before your health hits 0.
>>560315398>I want some nerds to explain to me what makes a "tank destroyer" a tank destroyer.The doctrine
>>560318110frv is nice
>>560318110Tank is goated if you have a competent crew though.
>>560318182I know, it's fucking hilarious. It might be the funniest thing narrowhead ever released: premium content which not only doesn't help you, it straight up kills you. Bravo.
>>560318110FRV is great if the driver knows what he's doing and doesn't leave it in the middle of the battlefield.
>>560318110i watched a youtube video of some guys doing the leddit D10 challenge and honestly the FRV can be really fucking useful if you're competent enough to go full speed without flipping it
>unlock tank>bring it to pub lobby>WTF this thing is trash!>bring it to /hdg/ lobby>WTF this thing is great!I've solved the biggest mystery
>>560314651Everyone on the super destroyer calls it a tank.
>>560318396>>560318278too bad it handles like shit and flips like a minivan taking a corner at 50 miles an hour the moment you hit a small bump. My favorite part is how the passengers lean their bodies all the way out the windows and basically stand up in their seats so the gunner can blow their heads off.
>>560318578>too bad it handles like shit and flips like a minivan taking a corner at 50 miles an hour the moment you hit a small bump.Driver skill issue, lower the speed>My favorite part is how the passengers lean their bodies all the way out the windows and basically stand up in their seats so the gunner can blow their heads off.Depending on the situation it's either a passenger skill issue for sticking his head in front of a machinegun or the machinegunner skill issue for actively aiming for the guy's head.
>swiggers are too lazy to give tanks color schemesThis is the part that pisses me off the most.
>>560318794I know it's a skill issue but it's seriously awful and shouldn't flip so much. Makes driving it such a pain that I almost never see anyone bring it. That the passengers put their heads directly in the gunner's line of fire instead of just staying seated and firing out the window is another malicious design choice
Why are Joel and Poodit letting us take Fury and K for free ? Isn't that a big izzat loss ?
>>560318965It's never brought because people never bring teamplay stratagems.
I think the tank is okay but I still like to ragebait the resident indians by pretending it's shit so I can watch them chimp out and defend Arrowhead's izzat
>artillery that is 500mm away from you>please wait 10 seconds until all the enemies run away from your shot
wow it's so fun not being able to see anything through the piss cloud!!!!! i'm havin a blast!!!!
>>560319097Fair enough, I think if it was less shit to drive people might bring it to blitz missions at least. I'm still waiting for them to add the bike so I have another option other than the warp or jump pack if I want to use heavy armor and not waddle around the map.
>>560319237>500mmthat's not a lot
>>560319343That's the point. What the fuck is an artillery shot next to you going to hit the target only after 10 seconds.
>animetard>is tarded
>>560319709are you retarded
is this the ultimate izzat check weapon in the game?>it's a beast if you can aim>it's utter shit if you can't aim
>>560319131>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>560319937AMR > Railgun
>>560319097>>560318965i love using the FRV to solo clear outposts before the timer even hits 35. flipping is always an issue but the autocannon or loyalist is reliable enough to unflip it without damaging the tires
>>560319097or maybe it's never brought because it handles like shit and 8/10 times the gunner gets ejected over the tiniest flip.
>>560319781modern day artillery can travel kilometers in ~20 secondswhy the fuck would it take anything more than a couple seconds for a shell to land less than a kilo away
>>560320081Just don't flip, lmao
>>560320098go take a look at seaf arty firingI'll let you dwell on it
>>560319937>it's a beast if you can aim>it's utter shit if you can't aimMove over homo. This is the ultimate shitter filter.
>>560320000can the AMR 1 shot war striders?>B-BUT *moving the goal post*I accept your concession
>>560320125remember the devs wipe on D3. Swedes really do have like a juvenile understanding of team play like with team reloads.DRG was actually fun when it came to team play
>>560320309The HMG is less of an aim check and more of a check if the player is too retarded to crouch or go prone.
>>560320393What does DRG have to do with anything?
given how feather-light the FRV behaves, I really think a single diver should be able to push it upright in the case it flips. Clearly it's behaving as an ultra-light recon vehicle.
>>560320309>braindead spray and pray gun designed for retards who can't probably aim for weakspotslol
>>560320527The HMG is all about aiming for weakpoints though.It's only advantage over the MMG is the ability to take down stronger enemies by aiming at their weakpoints.
>>560320527It's AMR with 100 rounds, requires more finesse, and the option to fire at 750 RPM but you're not ready for that conversation.
>>560319937Saw a RailgunChad 1 shotting a war strider across the map, it was pretty cool
>>560320468It's a game where actual teamplay happens instead of it being 4 random niggas in a row coop game like HD2. devs also don't care if you mod or cheat and all DLC is purely cosmetic
>>560320627>It's AMR with 100 roundsExcept the AMR does hundreds of durable damage while the HMG only do 35
>>560320659k keep us posted
>>560320254Are you an idiot? How many school classes did you graduate from?
>>560320837I mean I don't have to. I have literally 8 times the hours in that game vs HD2. I've probably put in at least 1000 hours after unlocking everything because it's actually a better game and the GSG aren't complete faggots like AH.
>>560316670demo detonation should be everyones first bond with how much it powers up your loadout and enables new builds
>>560320913>he STILL doesn't get itthis is just embarrassing
>>560320736Per bullet.The HMG does 3500 durable damage per mag. HMG wins again.
>>560320957>GSGi miss it
>>560320309>HMGthe only way this thing can "filter" players is by being a cumbersome, clunky piece of shit with sub-0 ergonomic and tiny ammo reserve, it just feel forced, being shit for the sake of being shit. Meanwhile the Railgun is purely skill based with no gimmicks, the gun is as good as your aim.
>>560320957Fascinating.
>Leveller alone often isn't enough to deal with the Vox spam>what if I also bring Orbital Railcannon to plug the gaps?>and Recoilless for general purpose AT, no reason to bring Quasar anymore since it isn't a cold planet>and OPS for objective structures and the city gatesAll right, now we're starting to get somewhere.
>>560321046*1 shot that hulk when ur about to lay down and carefully aim for it's eye*Heh...nothing personal, HMGcel
>>560321358holy shit lmao just bring the gatling and strafing run>orc in the great 2026
>>560321358you just need hmg and some 'mites
>>56032112650 employees vs AH's nearly 150 btw, and probably all in-house too.But it's whatever, I just brought it up because only the gayest homos care this much about skill in a PvE game especially something as inconsistent and shallow as HD2. FRV is just not fun to drive, period. Even when I had a competent driver shit felt so boring because any bump = flipping meant driving in the most safest and slowest way.
I got demodet and I gotta say the rifle on page 1 is dog puke. How's the explosive gun on page 2; the Eruptor?
>>560315543>>560315654And just because I wanted to feel disappointed again I tried it out. There were certainly a lot more berserkers than usual, but enemies like flame hulks are guaranteed spawns at certain outposts and there was still the occasional blaster trooper mixed in with patrols. Also, I cycled through two to three additional players in the span of about 5 minutes due to crashes.
>>560320627>>560321046So with the HMG, you're allowed to make 100 mistakes, with Railgun you can't make any mistake because there's only 1 round in the chamber. Check mate
>>560320016how are you not getting hit by the bunker turrets?????
>>560321624judy didn't age well; it's arguably the single bad part of the demo detoeruptor is the single most retarded op weapon in the game
>starts recharging when down to 1 reinforcement instead of 0, so that you can bank up to 2 reinforcements>retains the 25% reduced cooldown timerThere, I fucking fixed it.
>>560321694I'm still a whole lot of medals away from it but I'm looking forward to it.
>>560321658the compromise defenses objective scrambles them
>>560315975>snow bugssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242703813856It might be a bit late, but I hope you're able to make it.
What does arrowhead actually do...
>shit contrarians do to avoid the RR at all coststhe RR shits on both the HMG and Railgun, it's just a fact>s-shittercope and stay mad because I just stole your "moment", I'm blocking your access to the aura reserve
>>560322007balance the game
How the fuck it took this long to take copessa?I bet it was mostly controller players yesterday losing missions
>>560322058and the other 139 guys?
>>5603218963/4
I used RR before it got popular and switched to literally anything else after
>>560322093they're on vacation atm
>>560322043shit against cyborgs in mega factories. unless you are <d10 shitter, maybe.
>>560321896We are FULL, I hope you made it, snow bug anon.
>>560322207I did not, but that's okay.I'll get (you) next time.
>>560322043>ultimatum but it needs a support weapon and backpack slot, stationary reload, and no splash damage
>>560322297Well shit.
>>560322043>AAAAAAAAA IS THAT A RADICAL HMG-SAMA SAVE MEEEEEEE
How do I make modded lobbies friends?
>Eruptor can blow up large bot factoriesI hope this shit never gets nerfed. Probably the only fun gun in the game with limitations but Swedes hate seeing you have fun.
>>560322480>*blast the borgs head off with my double freedom*???
>>560319131I think even in co-ordinated teams, at least two people need to bring it to make it worthwhile. Otherwise it feels like its missing in action half the mission, either from taking too much damage, running low on ammo, or the team reaching a point where they need to get out on foot.
>>560322457my arthritis has flared up anyways
when?
Why do the devs seem to despise the playerbase so strongly
>>560322763>rear facing gunimagine the bitching from the people complaining about the bastion rn
>>560322810Stockholmers despise everyone but themselves.
>>560322820an excuse to finally display my talents in driving only in reverse.
>>560322810Because we derailed their hecking awesome grunt fantasy game
>>560323063Wtf does that mean anon
>>560323323The devs didn't want you to be able to complete the hardest difficulties without perfect teamwork.People complained enough that they had to fold on that dream of theirs and they're still salty about it.
>>560323519Are they retarded?? I think I already know the answer
>Be lvl 150.>D10>Find Ongoing Missions.>Scanning.>Scanner Recharging... 19, 18, 17...>Mission: Halt Cyborg Production>Player levels in the mission: lvl 10, lvl 15, lvl 20>Find Ongoing Missions.>Scanning.>Scanner Recharging... 19, 18, 17...>Mission: Sabotage Air Base>Player levels in the mission: lvl 50, lvl 42>Find Ongoing Missions.>Scanning.>Scanner Recharging... 19, 18, 17...>Mission: Blitz>Player levels in the mission: lvl 78, lvl 26, lvl 43>3+ minutes of this shit.>Scanning.>Scanner Recharging... 19, 18, 17...>Mission: Sabatoge Air Base>Player levels in the mission: lvl 150, lvl 150>Joining>Failed to join because the session is full.>Scanning.>Scanner Recharging... 19, 18, 17...>Mission: Spread Democracy>Player levels in the mission: lvl 41, lvl 30
>>560323740>lvl 150>being picky about which missions you joinEasiest way to out yourself as a shitter.
>>560323740this game is really le hard, good thing you're waiting for a full team of 150s
>>560323865I do not want to carry shitters, sorry.
>>560321896my pc just froze
>>560323740You sound like a massive, insufferable faggot
>>560322810>Developers struggle on difficulty 6>Were really surprised that players were doing too well on higher difficulties (They never tested it)>Proceed to nerf every single weapon that became popular because people are supposed to struggleThey really wanted higher difficulties to have a 5-10% completion rate or something along those lines but failed to realise that if every weapon is shit then players will just play rundivers and spam stratagems to deal with objectives
>>560323740They really need to change Megacities and Megafactories to show you three missions per refresh.>>560323865Anon, anyone who's been playing this game for more than a year is already level 150. And frankly, I wouldn't trust anybody below level 60 in a D10 mission. Anyone who's made it to D10 and is below level 30 got carried there or played squids.
can we hurry up on the peepee gas planet and get it done
>>560315398>The term is essentially deprecated. Early tanks were intended as primarily anti-infantry or mixed use. Tank destroyers mounted a larger gun than most tanks and no turret, making them well suited to ambushing tanks. Modern tanks are optimized for fighting other tanks and the turret is a huge advantage for fighting other tanks in anything other than an ambush,
>>560324049nta but no one wants to play with 3 tards who use all the reinforcements up and then kick you because you're the last one alive. some people unironically should lower the difficulty, not because the game is hard, but because they fucking suck at it.
>>560323740absolute faggot behaviour. what the fuck do you even play for then?
>>560320527>braindead spray and pray gun designed for retards who can't probably aim for weakspotsWrong - the HMG shines precisely because of its effectiveness against weakspots.
>>560324298>3 tards who use all the reinforcements up and then kick you because you're the last one aliveNever happened and even if it did you could solo the mission yourself after being kicked
>>560321232HMG claims another.
>>560324046Hard lock? The lobby is still going if you want to rejoin.
>>560324416You're really overestimating the intelligence of the average pubbie. And if I wanted to solo missions I'd play solo instead of matching with pubs
>>560324528>You're really overestimating the intelligence of the average pubbieBe honest here, you're not playing on difficulty 10, are you?
>>560324528do you expect pro players in pub lobbies? what do you join pubbies for then? genuinely asking, because I join to kill shit and on the off chance get some nice teamwork going which makes for fun moments.
>>560321896back to 3/4
>>560324298>nta but no one wants to play with 3 tards who use all the reinforcements up and then kick you because you're the last one aliveAnd seeing 150lvl players in a mission does not protects you from them being retards
>>560324610no i'm not, why does that matter?
How dare you want to play with people with more than 5 hours of gameplay experience in the highest difficulty in the game against a train of 6 vox engines. Gonna dox the fuck out of your now.
I hate the Vox Engine, as if the Warstrider wasn't already enough. The spawn rate is annoyingly high, it's unnecessarily fast so you can't even circle around to shoot the vents, Leveller is the only way to go.>>560323740>be lv150>scan for missions>mission 5 minutes in>lv20-70 players>joinThe only thing I look for is pretty much early mission timers, the rest is negligible at best and bothersome at worse. Also I'm not a metafag and play for fun, we are all shitters in this game.
>>560324610go play a pub d10 mission with level 30 players as your teammates and see how it goes
>>560322043>Kills a vox>No need to thank me chuds i just stole your "m- OH MY LIBERTY A HULK IS COMING AT ME!! AHHHHHHHH MY ULTI IS OUT OF BULLETS AAAHH OH MY LIBERTY PLEASE WAIT I NEED TO RELOAD AAAAAAAAAHHHHH RAILGUN-SAN! AMR-KUN! HMG-SAMA KILL THIS HULK FOR ME AIIIIIEIIAIIAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>560324832I can complete D10 missions by myself. I don't need to be carried like you do.
>>560321896full...
>>560324729>>560324832D10 pubbies are mostly competent, anything under that difficulty is filled with incompetence.
>>560324646i expect a basic level of competence, what is so fucking hard to understand about this? Carrying bad teammates isn't that much fun for me. I don't quit out of the match like the other guy but I don't really enjoy it when I'm just calling in the same guy 10 times because he won't stop running into a mega fortress with no gear
>>560324910>dive>stage reload 1>dive>stage reload 2>dive>reload complete>1 tap hulk>move on??????
>>560324951Yeah me too. I can finish it in 0:00 by pressing "I".
>>560324727Id experienced this more from level 150 trolls than actual newfags or noobs who mean well but will at least work together on super helldives
>>560325082>dive>stage reload 1>Hulk gets instagibbed by railGOD from the opposite of the map>The second hulk behind it is instagibbed as well You're welcome.
>>560325219>railgun does 0 damage even when trying to kill myself with it>just use any other support gun in the game instead
Dying is part of the game, the game is literally made to screw you over in every possible way, from code to enemies. Stop crying and dive again.
>>560325382Who are you talking to?
>surrounded by 3 different bot drops, a vox engine, and a few hulks>run in with my portable hellbomb and die but take everyone with meI felt so goddamn Democratic, bros
>>560325382>click Inf. HealthNow what, nigger ?
>>560325382I shall return to the super destroyer and ditch that cursed mission. Sorry pal, 1 death is unacceptable.
>>560319071There is a non zero chance that they simply forgot encirculation mechanic is a thing
i'll turn crossplay on... just this once...
>>560325780NO ANON STOP HURTING YOURSELF!!!
i can't FUCKING SEE ANYTHJINGINBIOSTRENOPNSDOI
>>560325780would you rather, on d10 borgs:>play with a team of level 30 pc players>play with a team of level 100+ consolefags
>>560316719RAPING boydivers inside the Super Tankette
>>560325460What is it with divers and self-sacreficing?
I rarely find issues with D10 pubbies, when i find retards is more often than not in quickplay. Otherwise people are mostly okay and competent.
>>560322810>>560324091>>developers struggle on difficulty 6I don't have the screencap where they were wiping on D3 so have this instead. Swedes deserve every mockery and harassment sent towards them and then some more.
This MO is going to fail too and the normies are gonna freak losing so much.
>>560326004You would think more time played = better player but I've seen plenty of lowbies perform better than 150's
>>560326158quickplay doesn't even match me on the correct difficulty like half the time, i've had it put me in d7 and d8 games when I'm trying to play d10
Reminder guys, the One True Flag providing any sort of AOE buff is space magic and not allowed.Now, go salute the Super Earth objective to make it rise faster for no reason.
>it's another "we lose 15 lives before we even get to the flag objectives because pubs decided to bring light armor against Vox" episode
>>560326475>flag missionThis kills the pub lobby
post the new table pls I need my SC stimmy
>>560299615>fidget spinner cape
>>560313930Unironically any DMR, if you can land consistent headshots the Amendment is great, one taps unarmored and 2-3 shots on armored one which you can just point blank burst them.
>>560326229they should just lower the difficulty then>but my medalsjust play more of the game then haha
>>560322395And goes further than a gentle toss away so you can clear shit before it gets close.
reminder that bufftrannies stole the game I paid for from me
>>560327425Nothing is stopping you from using shit weapons and just running away from enemies for the true nerftranny experience
>>560327425Then why do you keep playing? Genuinely I don't get it. If I find something repulsive I just stop.
>>560327425>xe still crying about the 60 days BASED patchseethe
If I go Invisible on Steam, does other people in my friend list see that I'm diving on a planet?
Was adjudicator always so shit or am i having a MSI (major skill issue) moment? I leveled it to 25 but it feels like every new attachment i've bought made this gun even worse to use compared to it's stock version.
>>560327425Because of the sad anime girl picture you attached to your pitiful post, I'm imagining you tearfully crying about the state of the game as I shove my cock against your face, using your cheek as a masturbation aid to completion.,I agree with you though
>>560321896ack infinity loading screen for me back to 3/4 i guess gg fellas
>>560327878yes
I would like to enforce her truth if you know what I mean
Tell me why I should not use the eagle napalm strike and call me daddy while you're at it
>>560314338I don't. I'd be fine to see them again if their rockets get fixed on Tuesday.
>>560326475I had to convince my friend to stop wearing light armor the other day, he is still a low level and only came back to the game for cyberstan but he was costing over 10 deaths a mission.
i can't think of a real use case for it but would this apply to laser weapons?
>>5603256215 reinforcements is the actual threshold where I begin worry about deaths.>>560326116Not him but it's the right way to play.
>go back to where I died>trooper camping my corpse instantly calls in reinforcementswhat a little nigger
>>560329134ammo capacity just means mags, presumably you get an additional heat sink
Last lobby went kinda haywire towards the end there but here is lobby 2. steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242717894745
>people did a small amount of digging into the HD2's support studios>everything is outsourced>all of it>not a single thing post-launch was made by Arrowhead>every new weapon, armour, and enemy was outsourced
>>560329542Why are swedes so lazy?
>>560327425I don't understand this logic. The game is far harder than it's ever been at any other point in time.Every faction has only gotten stronger over time and no one's forcing you to run the half dozen meta weapons and stratagems in place of the dozens of useless dogshit you have access to.
>>560329327ohthat sucks
could an anon post the sc ce script pls :3c
>>560328808no, I don't know what you mean. it sounds like you were trying to imply an innuendo meaning, but the words you chose don't have sexual connotations even by uncommon or archaic definitions
>>560329542which is why I feel 0 remorse cheating in SCs
WHY IS THE SERVER SO FUCKING DOG SHIT RN
>>560329764show me your leandiver body and then maybe :3
What's on your other monitor while you're diving? Anime? Video essays? Korean twitch thots dancing?
>rover but it has explosive weapons (grenade launcher for example)Why not?
>>560329542Wrong. As far as we know Arrowhead is responsible for:-vox engines-dragonroaches-rupture strain-incel corps-"""""new""""" mission types-weapons balanceThe game would be better if it was 100% outsourced lmao.
>>560329862Heldivers 2 because I can't multitask like that.
I understand you can be low level and not fully grasp the game etc, but why the fuck can't these mouthbreathing roombas not figure out how to get in the tank-turret? They just clamber on top and get in the passenger seat.
>>560329862I play on D10 pubs I literally do not have time to jerk off or waste time
>>560329508FULL
>>560329785I would have felt 0 remorse even if every asset was hand painted with a brush made of the dev's plucked eyelashes. rent-seeking is kike behavior
Why are you poor /hdg/?
Rapid Launch System (non-sentry green boost) or Power SteeringI only have 11 super samples and feel like a little reward for my diving today im beatI only dive D6 because I don't have tons of stuff yet
>>560330259>brags about wealth>0 reinforcementsId rather survive with the homies than thrive with a bum
>>560330259looks like shit and it's prolly not even calibrated LOL
>>560330259is there any point to a curved monitor tho
>>560314550>>560311830
>>560330259what's the appeal of bending monitors ? for people with lazy eyes ????
>>560330259>0 reinforcementsJust wire me your money bro, clearly it's getting wasted on the likes of you.
>>560329898Let's be honest. There's a 90% chance that those were outsourced too, but the studio(s) involved haven't taken credit for it yet.
>>560329827ok pls b gebntle
>about to pay the $10 for sc for the bond/superstore because I’d rather do other shit during the three hours of farming it would take, and I’m not a cheatfag (though i would happily join cheat lobbys)
>nigga hiding his difficultythere is a non zero chance it's an employee from AH
>>560312748
>>560330931a. that's the default option after the bile titan fiascob. AH doesn't play the game
>>560330894I guess you don't want it........
then just...... enable the settings?
>>560330916>watching anons waste 3 hours of their free time for a warbond they already hate when I can buy 2 warbonds doing nothing at my job for an hourCall me a wagie cuck but im an adult with money and not a dumbass
>>560315453Battlefield troon go back
>>560331208I literally can just sit while executing my macro and 2 warbonds in less than an hour......
>>560331208>he paided the retard taxngmi
>>560331349He said the epic based word!!!!Im owned!!!
you sound like it
https://tempfile.org/gDoTvAwQPSj/password is:fuckniggersfucktranniesfuckswedesenjoy your SCs saaaaaar
>giving more money to AH beyond buying the gameHonestly? You deserve where the game is and where it's headed.
>>560331504odds of getting VAC banned?
>>560331570Helldivers 2 doesn't even fucking use VAC.
>VAC ban in a game with no VACwhat's with the average IQ of this general
>>560331570
I forgot they use that other chink malware, gomen.
>>560331347True but theres guys that grind for shit and still get madLove when anons slowly kill themselves with rage
>some nigger whines in a chat and leave>you're the new squad leader>4 Chargers 2 Titans 15 alpha commanders and 100 hunters suddenly appear near the civilian defenseUntil these sons of whores fix the host bug, this shit will be unplayable.
>>560331504good lord that's a lot of dolphin pussy
>>560331715>anticheat malware solution to stop cheaters>which does not kick in during the first 10 seconds of launching helldivers 2>which means even the most basic cheats and injections can alter the game without any special bypasses during the first 10 seconds as anticheat doesn't even start up yetABSOLUTE STATEOF SWIGGER CODING
>>560331504>fuckniggersfucktranniesfuckswedesELAK JÄVLA HORA KOMMER SKICKA SÄPO PÅ DIG CP UNGE
>>560331570>VACAnon...
>>560331570kek
>>560331570>>>/reddit/
>>560328808Fine, what mod?
today I will equip the Double Edge Sickle
>>560332102made by yours truly>https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/9134
>>560332147don't forget to turn on Inf. Health for maximum fun and fuck swedes
>>560331208Yeah this. I take an ‘awaiting relief’ at wok (waiting for someone to get in 15-45 minutes late) and its paid for a few times over. Half the time the guy gets there on normal time anyways.I’m not broke, just mad stingy with my money. Trying to loosen my white-knuckled grip on it a bit lately.
>>560332147heavy fireproof armor + double edging sickle on bricks missions kinda comfy ngl
>>560331570>Scared of getting banned in a game that hasn't banned anybody since release
>>560330264Do you have the first 3 upgrade for the patriotic admin center and eagle? If not then focus on those first since hellpod steering is borked due to swigger coding and height limits. Those upgrades are more impactful for the current state of the game. If you have to choose between the two, rapid launch since it allows after mine deployment and is good with calling down gas mines on a bug breach.
>>560332314Where I work is super dead so I just get paid to keep thr lights on and make sure it doesnt burn downComfy im always reading
>>560331570The chances of this shit stealing your passwords are much higher.
>>560332518*faster
>bugs>predator strain: the bar for a good subfaction, meaningfully changes the gameplay for the race>spore burst: fairly meaningless sidegrade to vanilla>rupture: marked downgrade from vanilla that both the mechanical design and functional balance are bad>bots>jet brigade: sidegrade to vanilla where many enemies in a ranged faction get a gap-closing ability to varying threat>incind corp: perhaps ultimately an uninspired ‘elemental’ themed sub-faction, mainly carried by exactly 1 enemy in it having an instant kill attack>cyborgs: meaningful addition to the faction that should debatably replace or integrate into the primary faction. design-wise fine, only marred by excess vox spawning in the current patch (personally i think voxes shouldn’t strictly replace fact striders too)>squids>guess we’ll find out
>>560332518>first 3 upgrade for the patriotic admin center and eagle?Yes I just bought the 3rd Eagle tier the other dayI know measly 10% upgrades sound lame but it does make a difference in the gamePlayed D7/8 and while I can carry my own there I still find myself in trouble but im never the worst guy on the team lolIll get the Engineering bay one with the greensI use HMG turret and shield gen the most Don't really trust MG sentries only if its rocket or AC
>>560333119Honest to god, I think half of the ship upgrades are placebos.The one that lowers eagle rearm cooldown if you have leftover runs does literally nothing I swear.
>>560333206I've noticed some seconds being scraped and I can feel some difference The one I dont trust is the extra fire damageAin't tricking me
>>560329508Back to 3/4, snow bug anon now is your chance.
>>560329687>The game is far harder than it's ever been at any other point in time.no.>>560327601I stopped for a long time, I come back now and then to see if things have gotten better, they never have. doesn't change that you STOLE the game from me. It was fun, very well designed, basically perfect. Now it's nothing. What else is there like it? nothing.>b-but helldivers 1totally different game>>560329687>>560327594there are no shit weapons, all the weapons that were interesting and challenging to use were buffed to the point of being boringalright? even playing easy/medium difficulty used to be fun because the weapons and enemies were individually fun, adding the massive hordes of the higher difficulties was just icing on the cakeyou took the cake and left the icing, then pretend like that's a replacement. fuck you.
>tr*nime>braindeadImagine my shock.
>>560316196The tank gets raped by bots and squids. It would not be overpowered. Imagine if the FRV had limited rotation on the emplaced HMG. Would that be a good vehicle? Is the FRV currently HMG overpowered?"being clunky dogshit" shouldn't be the way to balance things in the game.Come use the Bastion, it's got:>cardboard armor and has 100% damage to main ap2 bullshit on the sides>a 10 minute cooldown>slow speed>an even slower, delayed stationary pivot steering>an extremely limited range of movement for the gunner which is further worsened by the prior mentioned slow and delayed driver pivotingFuck this thing, it's not like I can't make it work but it sucks. Just give me a one and done drop that doesn't suck as much ass.
>>560329687You should have been there when we were fighting the aimbots at planet scotland.
is this enough or should i get more?
>>560334140if you have every warbond unlocked including the superstore items, then yesif you don't really care about the superstore items then also yes
>>560333973It also gets stuck on invisible geometry The tank is great if you use it as a siege cannon from afar or if you have a good driver
friendly reminder that ballistic shield on launch could soak an infinite amount of medpen damage (unlike the bastion)
Modded bot lobbysteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242724652960/76561197999485174
>>560313098If you really want to do the meme grenade hatch thing, warp or supply pack and smoke grenades. The smokes obscure your approach, are lethal in the vent, and won't blow you up when nades inevitably whiff because the bucket is physically obstructed by the vox engine contorting into itself to shoot through itself with its cringe cannons while boosting away from you at 40kph
>>560328808
>>560315307>Get the option to download other regions voice lines>Make it random or dependent on the other players language>Hear Japanese voice lines at 3 amI wish, and yes, I'm well aware people could kick you for speaking a language they don't like.
>>5603346243/4
should have been a space M8
>>5603346244/4
the absolute state of charbal
>>560333927you stole my game tranny
>>560332229>the guy who makes all these mods hangs out in hdgsmall world
Nailbiting right now
I'm still pretty new so maybe this is nothing out of the ordinary, but during the assault on cyberstan campaign I was dropping in on Diff10 and having 0 issues. Teammates were all great, I did well, cleared missions efficiently with no issues.But ever since that event ended it's like everything is in complete chaos. Every matchmake team is retarded. I drop in on Diff8 and we can barely finish the mission. Sometimes 4 Vox Engines will just spawn on top of you and basically spawn camp the team. I've see the drama around balance recently. Is that it? Were there enemy buffs or something?
>>560335552I fucking love my stratagems bouncing off of every fucking surface
>>560335443>Driver with a thumper ability to knock back enemies every 20 seconds or so>Turret operator with a 360 rotation>HMG on the front with a 270 rotation>GL on top with a 360 rotationFor free Arrowhead
>>560330259>72/144Lmao can't believe I see another duck ultrawide autist. I run 60/144 at 10-bit colour so there's no (or very unnoticable) FPS drops on all biomes at all difficulties, recommend you do the same unless it's a 9950X3D or whatever. I can never go back to a flat 16:9 main monitor, whenever I use my missus' it feels fucked
>>560335689Cyberstan was everyones last bit of morale honestly
>>560335683And then you'll have 4 hours to liberate the planet with a 1% decay rate (2% since it has 2 million HP) and it still won't meet the kill requirements.+izzat for Joel.
Haven't played in several months, are the bug cave maps active right now?
I am not having fun on D10 vox and cyborg megafadctoriesI will lower the diffuclty
>>560336018I think we currently hold Oshaune so noBut theres still Hive maps so maybeI only do simple bug dives for easy grinds
>>560336018Yes. Omicron has them.
>>560336213>>560336343Cheers. Time to go get stuck in a hole
>>560330487it's supposed to be easier on the eyes because the focal distance is the same across the radiusI find it's mostly good for keeping the entire VA panel in the sweet spot, it does wash out at angles
>>560314651Alright can it get tank destroyer front armour then?
Are all the super store melee weapons the same? (Except the stun one)
>>560336796What's wrong with its armor?
>>560336975it's not totally invulnerableand can you believe there still are dogshit guns in the game that don't oneshot vox engines?
>>560332229Thank you, incredible men of wealth and taste populate this general.
>>560316196No it wouldn't be. And even if it was, what's the harm? You get 2 out of 4 players coordinating in a vehicle. Give them their 30 rounds of power fantasy. Balance can also be achieved by smart game design choices instead of making shit clunky and unfun to use. Like adding tank traps, hedgehogs or enemy AT mines - that have to be cleared on foot. Enemies calling in their own tank destroyers or calling CAS or Gunships. Some objectives could be designed to be only accessible by foot.On top of giving the tank players an engaging fun challenge this would even contribute more to teamplay and encouraging players to support their team assets.Don't project your narrow minded retardation on anyone else please.
stop shooting my gas mine pod before it can deploy them you quadruple niggers
>>560331504404
>>5603295083/4 again
>>560335689>d8Found the problem. If you want to minimize retardation from hotjoiners, stick to 10.
>>560337171That's terrible. Someone should do something!
>>560336975What armour?
in a healthy game industry this fun but flawed crash prone piece of shit game could have been the seed for a whole nother genre of third person shooters but gaming is dead nowfuck this gay earth holy fuck
>open CE>wait for a full lobby>give free SC to pubbiesfuck AH fuck joel fuck sweden im doing my part
>fogdiversi wouldn't really mind this but the fact that bots have pixel-perfect accuracy and are unaffected by fog in 100 meter radius is absolute bullshit
>>560338107would be nice if it lowered detection and accuracy like smoke
>>560337956Make a ce lobby in like 10 minutes???Plz saar do the needful for me and i give you much many izzat.
>>560338107Built for BBC (Big Bug Cock)
>>560338256Ahh, I get it. You're trying to make people that join SE lobbies look like jeets while defending the ACTUAL jeets... Clever use of misdirection, Anon, but the execution could use work...
>fire cuck chair>grenade cuck chair
>pick d10 borgs>pick ajudicator>bring either AMR or RR>check no ragdoll>check inf. stamina>check inf. ammo>check inf. stims>check no sway>comfortably popping bot, hulk and borg heads while unzipping ulti + OGS + strafe at every Vox engine and War strider i seeThis is peak comfy.
to the contrary, it feels like it is better to use heavy armor on megafactories because med and light armors are still useless since you cant outrun cyborgs anywaybetter to just go heavy + fortified and hope that all damage reductions work in your favor compared to lighter armors
>>560338256Izzat is earned by fucking over your neighbors, not given, fake jeet
>>560338437just lower the difficulty
>>560338429>fire cuck chairThat shit better have a 60 second cooldown or it will be the newest shittiest stratagem in the game
>>560338429A grenade chair would be decent vs squids. The grenade wall fucks over squid drops and obliterates fleshmobs. The annoyance is when it spawns a blob of enemies behind a lamp post that was 15m behind you and outside of the grenade wall's arc of fire.
>>560338498no
>>560338429my beloved apc, please come home
Did we get an influx of chinks into this thread? For years we'd get the occasional SC farmer or person using the arrow mods. But now we can't go one thread without someone bragging about how they're cheating like it's some kind of badge of honor. Go ahead and print your counterfeit super credits. Good on you for that. Nobody cares. Worse, you just look pathetic with god mode turned on.
>>560338916we have one subhuman slav that comes in talking about his epic god mode etcwe all used to grind the SC, but we've become tired of the greedy, lazy Swigger. They do not deserve another cent nor hour spent actually farming SC, especially when they keep making the natural gains lower and lower artificially. Fuck them.
>>560332147>>560332395https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deLksPorrmoCan go Inflammable and Heavy 50% for even more shooting, can shoot while standing with the headless combo
>>560339181>>560339113This shit right here. It's right up with the fucking infinite supply pack glitch. Bro, if the game is too hard for you then turn the difficulty down. Needing to abuse bugs is not a good look.
>>560313396Wait until you find out the 500kg actually weights 500g
>>560338916>The players who were actually passionate and fair about the game have been dismissed time and time again by the devs and the deluded elitist playerbase, and now the only ones that remain are both the deluded elitists and the players who are fed up with the devs and the elitists>Why is the thread full of cheaters now?You brought this on yourselves.
Can we get a normal lobby?I usually host myself but am unable to rn.
>>560339495You want to steal the warbonds? Fine. You want to host a lobby on an unavailable biome and/or spawn a novel permutation of enemies? Fine. But playing with godmode on? That's cringe.
>>560339695I'm not the one playing with cheats. That's out of line but i can understand their sentiment.
>>560336950No. Hatchet swings faster and doesn't do as much damage as the machete which hits harder and swings slower. Sword > Hatchet > Machete in terms of speed/damage from fastest to slowest.In terms of one-handed melee, that is.
>>560314205The purifier makes comedically good work of them. Just dismantles their ass so easily.
i love double sickle but i am so sick of the screamingplz make it stop
>>560338916I believe it's widespread. People brag about cheats in reddit as well iirc i saw a screenshot of one a couple threads ago.
>>560313930Xbow kills both borgs in one center of mass hit.
>>560339390>not a good look>giving a shit about the "optics"You can fuck off now.
>>560315398Calling those "Tank Destroyers" is kinda wrong. Every big gun on a chassis could be designed as a Tank Destroyer, it is decided by doctrine, not by the vehicle. The Italian Centauro for example is considered a Tank Destroyer (picrel), while the US Stryker is for example considered a Light Armored Vehicle.This said, casemate tanks exists for basically only three reasons: Extremly more cheap than turreted tanks, and extremly more reliable because of the fewer moving parts plus and the ease of reparation\maintenance, and because it's way easier to fit surplus AT guns that you already have in a casemate \ open chassis
>>560313930LibPen or LibCarb to MOG your team's SHOTS FIRED and SHOTS HIT in the end card. That's TWO yellow stat in your card.
>>560338429bing chilling
>>560338916Not trying to fuck AH and swedes is unbased tho
>>560313184you basically have to get a direct hit on anything bigger than chaff for it to do any amount of damage, and it has no way to properly aim it. So it's actually not very good.
Izzat Status :>Old : 2 Joel Izzat, 1 Helldivers Izzat>Captured Choepessa : -1 Joel Izzat, +1 Helldivers Izzat>New : 1 Joel Izzat, 2 Helldivers Izzat
New player here. What's the best way to farm common samples? I've tried running low difficulty missions but I barely get any, and when running higher difficulty missions with others, I'm too busy fighting off enemies to look for them and my teammates don't bother picking up any or die with with what they had.
>>560314651It is a swedish main battle tank
>>560340938swamp map like Gar Haren on d1less POI means it's more likely that the common samples will spawn on the extraction zone
>>560340938play on D7 as it is the easiest diff with all possible samples.
>shoot enemy with the censor>Everyone instantly knows where to run to, the next kill puts them on alert no matter how long you wait for them to go out of the suspicion phase or how far away you are>Detonate c4>The enemy now instantly pinpoints your location and runs towards itThis shit is either buggy as shit or has been stealth nerfed cause this fucking sucks
>>560340938Take MMG, go play squids. Squids are the easy mode faction and you should be able to kill everything with MMG. Aim at harvester joints to kill them, magdump everything else.
>>560340868bro stop it joel's going to see this and rape us
>>560340938fight bugs on planets that have megacities on higher diffs, and look if they have the "cleanse infected district" mission. this mission specifically have a lot of common samples. my top record was getting 80 common samples with the sample scanner booster on diff 10.
>CHARBAL-VII>D7 MEGAFACTORYsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242736212766/76561198005075969
D10BugsFire and Gas welcomesteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242736350853/76561197999417031
>>5603418092/4
>>5603418093/4
>>560341809>>560341932uh oh
>>560338107Sir, your orbital smoke?
>>560341809full
>>560341797cancelled, went to D10 bugs lol
>>560341285It feels like shit cause Commando mission bots are literally lobotomized while normal missions keep the same AI
>>560341285If you want to be stealthy there's a quirk you need to understand about patrols: The entire patrol shares a telepathic link, so if you so much as touch any one unit of the same patrol, regardless of whether they have line of sight to eachother or are even in hearing range, they'll all suddenly be aware of you.
>>560343416The thing is, I'm exclusively avoiding patrols and going for the guys protecting the objectives and it's them who also seem to be hyper aware of shit happening around them. I think >>560342991 might be what's happening here and they just lobotomize the enemies to make stealth possible on commando missions
>>560342991>>560341285Skill issue. I play against bots with full stealth gear and enemies never see me as I dome them to death inside the base.
Lobby doko, DO NOT CLICK>CyborgsCyborgs>CyborgsCyborgs>CyborgsCyborgs>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242740431584/76561197986229160steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242740431584/76561197986229160
>>560345090spergnigger lobby
>>5603450902/4>2/4
>vox engines one shot you from across the map with their cannons>gunships one shot you with a rocket volley as they fly behind you>radicals charge you down and stunlock you with their shotguns and melee attacks>stratagems bounce of off every single surfaceI'll take Oshaune over this shit any day
What if we had jungle borgs?
>>560344302>enemies never see meThat wasn't the complaint, you illiterate faggot.
>Topic of lack of offensive/red stratagems comes up between friends>Everybody besides me in agreement that there's no unique ideas they could add and that's why reds have been ignoredThe average person has the mind's eye of a cat. Pure void between the ears.
>>560345551they were in merga iv
>trench shotgun missing from the warbond trailer>turns out its not in the store but was a scrapped weapon left in the fileshow would (You) feel?
Why the fuck doesn't your body armour's paintjob take on whatever colour scheme your headpiece has? Mixing sets more or less always looks off.
>>560345921Nothing, because I don't buy super store shotguns.
>>560345090Lobby closed. Will post again later when there are more dokos
>>560345921"eh, oh well, too bad"
>>560345974
>>560345769Clearly they are seeing you, because headshotting enemies with the Censor doesn't alert the ones around them into attacking/calling in reinforcements. They'll instead face your direction in that semi-alert state.>>560345921They don't advertise super store items a lot of the time, it's very rare it ever happens. Video related, no mention of the light armor and machete that released alongside it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2Es5g7fwA
>>560345819I want something like this to be H.
I won't play any bots mission if cyborgs are there, I hate Vox Engines and I don't care about skill issue. Those shits are taking away any enjoyment I have for bots.
>>560345819I'm not even sure how that happens within the framework of the game. We could have the most uncreative stuff like "what if walking but gas" and they seem to not have the imagination to think of that.
>>560345819>>560346669Speaking of, where the hell is our Eagle Anti-Air?
>>5603418093/4 we need you saaar
>>560345819Even something simple like a 3-shot burst of 380mm that's pretty accurate but has a middling cooldown would be useful.
newfag hereis it just luck that determines whether a stratagem ball actually sticks the ground/enemy or is there something I'm doing wrong when it bounces and rolls 20 meters away
>>560345819Pelican lingering CAS is the most braindead, we-already-have-this-in-game-so-it's-just-implementing-the-call-in idea possible and people seriously don't even think about it?
>>560346669So strafing run but concentrated on one point like orbital gatling?
I swear some enemies will have 2x health as others sometimes unless you get them with a OKHOIll be firing on some cyborgs more than others
>>560345819WHERE IS MY FUCKING ORBITAL TEMPEST?LET ME UNLEASH THE WRATH OF ZEUS ON COMMIES
>>560347008Just because something could be made doesn't mean it should be. What's the point of a walking gas barrage? A gas strike only really makes sense as a low cooldown, short call in delay, localized effect, which is why the gas strike we have works like that.
>>560347290If the game detects a "roof" the ball will roll until it hits solid groundAlso if a landing is too high itll roll off to ground level
>>560347290Certain surfaces are specially marked to be bouncy. No, you cannot tell which is which.>>560347371Cyborgs have extremely segmented damage models where their chest alone is three different parts. And many bits have reduced % to main and have light armor. Also are those your 3d prints?
>>560347349Yes. A quick surgical "fuck this area" stratagem.
>>560347290There is a retarded obscure system that restricts where you can place stratagems because narrowhead is terrified that you might place an auto-turret on a pillar or some shit. Normally it isn't much of an issue, but shit is broken in megafactories.
>>560347371Can say that again.I've used 2 mags shooting a cyborg with a pummeler.Sure he's stunned, but surely it's not supposed to take +80 rounds to put him down.
>>560347635I try to always aim for the head and still my guns will just blast their bits off than killingNo I found them on twitter but idk from whoThey look cool
>>560347902And you aren't confusing the two different types of cyborg here? One has an exposed head and dies from just 150 damage to it, the other has a helmet on top of that and you can't actually headshot them until you've removed it.
>>560347902The hulk is https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/automaton-hulk-helldivers-2, I know because I printed one myself. The charger is probably https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/helldivers-ii-behemoth-charger but with the generic pose it could be any number of STLs out there. I gotta wait for my new printer to arrive so I can work on my cyborgs to complement my bot army.
>>560348609>hulk side eyearen't those meant to be rigid?cute either way
>>560348671They're definitely gimballed to some extent because the red cone stays fixed right on you even as the body bounces around.
Removing hellpod steering lock and strategem bounce would make this game ten times better.
>>560348998I think everybody agrees with that at this point. Your shit getting stuck on some high terrain is a (you) problem that happens uncommonly even now anyway.
>>560349214nta but megafactories have wild drop hitboxes
>>560345819They just showed off incendiary gatling during cyberstan and it was cool as hell
>>560313930I’ve been shredding them with PunnyPlas and Rover
>it's another bot dropship noclips through the terrain and kills you episode
>>560348998In the words of a wise monarchThere are many things that need to be erased
>>560331073I’ll sell that anon’s body for it, it’s what he would’ve wanted
>>560345819Most normies are lvl3+ on the apple chart sadly
>>560331073does this work on linux...............
>>560331504Darn, I’m too late
>>560314793Why do people directly compare secondaries to primaries? Are they actually this stupid?
>>560349515>They just showed off incendiary gatling during festival of reckoning and it was mid as hellftfy
>>560345819Eagle Kamikaze, it has to rearm after being used but the cooldown is 50% shorter
>>5603418093/4 again
>>560350313there is zero reason to crash your plane into something when you can just use a bomb instead
deleting cyborg heads with the deadeye is fun
Where is this overseer mod its not showing up in any of the usual places
>>560351486Save yourself the hassle and use the amendment instead
>>560351768https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/3330?tab=filesmake sure you go into your mod manager and check off other units it affects, unless that's your thing or wtv
>>560350508*insert 911 joke here*
>bugdivers chill>botdivers tryhard>squiddivers goonArrowhead really nailed it with the 3 factions desu
>orbital laser prioritizes 4 hulks instead of the 2 Vox engines on the field>When it finally gets to them it kills none>2 more vox engines get dropped
>>560353475Bugdivers are all those except chill.
>>560352591Thank you!
>we are now stuck liberating copy paste megafactories for all eternity on botfrontMake it stop
R8 my bot buildEruptorUltimatumDecoy MineOPS500KGPortable Hellbomblaser cannonFortified heavy armor
>>560354845Metafag in denial !
Half the players on Charbal are not attacking the mega factory and are doing jack shit because they aren't above the regen for the planet. I don't blame them because the map will only show a SINGLE mission per city to join when you scan the planet for active sessions. Even then, we're only going to have like 8 hours to finish off Charbal after taking mega factory which gives 75% liberation. We'll need to average above 3.13% liberation after that to get the planet in time. It might not even be worth it since the cyborg kill counts are fucked.
>>560354845incredibly safe and boring/10
Two dokos and I make a Cyborg lobby, dozo
Il host a lobby to cheat SC in about 1h.Its going to be 90 SC per minute (if they didnt change anything) so just dick around while i spawn them.
>>560345819Personally I wish there was Eagle Stratagem on par with Orbitals with high cool down.Like for example 3 Eagles caroet bombing an area with napalm/regilar bombs or being granted a mini eagle storm that priotizes heavies in an area.
>>560354778>the legacy of MoO is not the cyborg units, or the attack on cyberstan, but that it gives Udit and Joel yet another way to make liberations a total slog that are only allowed to succeed with their express permission.
>>560354993You're too late BatmanMildly FUNNY lobbyD10 whatever lobby decidessteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242751570503/76561198205883657
>>560354845>no leveller>no chaff clearyou will be raped by 15 voxes and every trooper within 100 meters
>>560354845I don't care for the eruptor on bots as it can struggle to kill troopers quickly if there's a large and spread out squad of them. The ultimatum is good but I don't like having it with the eruptor as you can get fucked in close combat. Decoy mine is fine. OPS is good for sniping destructible objectives and fabricators and as a big grenade for enemies. 500kg has use everywhere. The portable hellbomb is fine as an objective breaker or to delete bot drops. I feel like the laser cannon has too little DPS these days. Armor choice is a personal preference.
>>560355185FVLL
i miss him
>>560355347hehe dogy
>>560314358>expendable grenade launcherThe what
>>560347579More options. I want more options. I already tried every stratagem combination already
>>560355452I assume he meant the GL emplacement
>>560355452EAT :)
>>560354845>EruptorBetter get the exploding crossbow or the plasma shotgun.>laser cannonGet the antimaterial rifle. Great at killing VOX.>500 kgCan't deal with VOX and isn;t great for small fries either. Change it for something else. The orbital rail is nice at taking striders or softening VOX.
>>560355512You've gone into 50 million missions? That's impressive.
>>560345819Easy ones that use existing tools to create:Orbital precision napalmOrbital gas barrageOrbital EMS barrageEagle gas strikeEagle EMS strikeNew Concepts:Air support pelican that hovers on overwatch for a while shooting shit with it's AutocannonA missile barrage from the super destroyer that targets a bunch of things in an area. Like the harkonnen ship in dune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWjbMAWw-Qo
>>560355926Orbital Rail cd is to high to be worthwhile. By the time Rail comes back you can drop 3x 500kg bombs.
>>560355347Just play plain bots w/o borgs. I wonder if they'll ever maps with both Vox Engines and Factory Striders
>>560356156But what are you going to be dropping those 500kg on? The preblematic bot unit is the VOX.
>>560356156There was a time during an MO where we had to kill troopers with the rail cannon. They gave us an extra rail cannon to use and heavily reduced the cool down. It was actually fun to use then. Of course they didn't learn from that and reset the rail cannon back to the way it was after the MO.
>>560356320Saw dogs appear on non-city maps with cybergs yesterday
>>560355393heckin' doggerino
>>560345819What color would a SEAF squad drop be? Green?
>>560356429Must have been a bug, because vox engines even replace dogs as the convoy.
>>560355926>ORCS anywhere but roach mapsstop giving people advice
>>560356381Flag raising objectives on Mega Factories.
>>560356429I'm not going to assume how you play, but from my experiece, at a certain level of difficulty, voxes completely replace factory striders in the spawn pool and even replace tanks. You end up with voxes fucking everywhere from how many spawn pool then end up in.
>>560345819>arc storm>creates a localized storm cloud effect that shoots arc lightning down over an area
is there a way to play dragonroaches without modding/fiddling with game files?
Shredder missile when?Razorwire as called in Eagle drop or a backpack item that you string up on your own when?I loved these two stratagems from HD1
>>560357034No, you can't play as a dragonroach.
>>560355961>Heh I bet you didn't try Eagle Smoke + Orbital Smoke + EMS Strike + One True Flag>Oh you did? But I bet you didn't try Stalwart + Orbital Smoke + EMS Strike + One True FlagAll meaningfully different combinationsI did probably use every stratagem at least a hundred times each
>>560357084Small indie studio, not a lot of money to work with, please understand. Now I take a vacation for the third time this month.
>>560357136very funny... I meant playing against dragonroaches atm
Hi, can we please stop having vox engines drop right on objectives and extractions so they become impossible to interact with even after you kill them unless their body disappears? Thanks
>>560358101lower the heckin difficulty
>>560353610>orbital laserWhy are you bringing that useless POS?
Automaton missions can be fun when you don't vox engines on your ass 24/7
>>560358469they were even more fun before war striders rendered every non-AT support weapon non-viable
>>560348998Nuh-uh, not realistic enough
>>560358469Vox engines and radicals in numbers are my personal bane. D6 and up on pissfog planet is not a fun gaming experience so I'm casual'ing in D4 until we get through this one.
>>560355347If you play on 6 you get lots of them and lots of borgs.
>>560358729If you know which mission types are currently biased towards tank seeds you can kind of still get that experience.
I'm tired of dual Levellers so from now on I'll switch to dual Silos
>>560345819*there's no unique ideas they could add that can fuck up the player and force teamkills if you use them
>>560358469Back when the bots completely uncontested you and provided absolutely 0 pressure? I don't mind that the vox train actually contests my shit over objectives, which almost no other unit in the game does. The biggest gripes I have with them is the bullshit gameplay bugs, like their dogshit instant transmission spawns, or how they can stick to the top of buildings, or how other borg units can run through their treads, or how their turrets keep firing after death, or how their fucking AT turrets can shoot directly below them, or how multiple voxes can stack on top of each other/no collision with eachother.
>>560359136Orbital Airburst Barrage
>>560359054You can't, war strider spawns are just that invasive.They literally took the place of hulk spawns, which are a much easier enemy to deal with.
>>560354845>Fortified heavyavoids instagibs and reduces recoil>Xbowone-shots cyborgs and destroyers fabs>ultimatumfrontal tanks/war striders/turrets/softening voxes>arc grenadeyou get 5 and it's a tesla tower in a can that deletes an infantry patrolstratagems>resupply packresupplies>HMGEfficient vox killer, hulks, gunships, point blank borgs, and tank/strider weakpoints>Gatling barragekills voxes/patrols/turns approaches into no-man's-land while you're doing objectivesflex spot for strat4:>Strafing run on open mapsdeletes patrols, kills armor, softens voxes>LevelerDeletes a vox occasionally>Silonice vs vox convoys for deleting a vox way the fuck over there.>120mmthins bot drops, softens voxes, destroys detector towers>portable hellbombfuck jammers
>>560359136Orbital Tesla Storm
>>560358469I reaaaally like voxs but fuck whatever jeets they outsourced the coding to they need to fix the spawn rate.
>>560359409Last I checked they compete for the same enemy slot as tanks. Your mission has one or the other, and both have hulks.
>>560359612I don't know about whether they compete for the same slot as tanks, but I guarantee you that they spawn a lot more often than tanks used to spawn before they were introduced.You can sometimes see more war striders in an outpost than hulks, you never saw more tanks in an outpost than hulks.
>>560358452Big lasr cool
>>560359798It's about two or three for every tankSame as vox engines, two or three for every factory strider
>>560345819Seeker drone swarm that summons a bunch of loitering shahed drones that kamikaze targets you mark or the largest foe
>>560359954Are you telling me every single tank gets replaced by two or three war striders?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242748253878/76561198105652546Cheating in SC.
>>560360159instantly full
>>560360159You can't do that
>>560360402SAAR
fml
>>560360116Don't know how the code or seeds actually work but seems that way to me, dropships that would carry a single tank would bring three war striders, same with the tank that would spawn in jammers being replaced by two war striders
Just read a comment of somebody claiming reds do your heavy liftingim not sure im playing the same game as that bloke
Leaks?Any new leaks?
>>560360432Have some respect
Best sight for the Diligence?
Rate my bug build:Equipment:Pummelerbushwackerimpact grenadestratagems:sterilizerincendiary mineseagle smoke strikemortar sentry
>2 shots vox engines
>>5603607724x
>>560360708Yeah we're getting a ww1 themed warbond on the 17th
>>560360479ON KIRK
>>560360708SC pick ups will be limited to 4 max per mission
>>560361017and if you don't extract you don't get the credits :)
how about they give this shit a reason to exist and let it onehit voxes?it would also solve all problems related to vox spam on D10
>>560361612It already has a reason to exist: it is the best support weapon for breaking the worm's shell open, to allow you to actually kill the thing with a follow up support weapon.
>>560355185kino robby cheat anon
>>560361612>literal gear check would also solve all problems related to vox spam on D10vox are a well designed enemy with aleckshit numbers and ags jank for ultra cancerbeing able to snipe them is not solving the issues, its just like removing it from the spawn pool
>>560361810>doing this instead if using the RR where at least you'll be able to use it inside the caves once the lord is dead
>>560361810This is not true in the slightest. Even just the RR has more total damage and delivers it faster
Are you guys still crying about no SC in the place where the enemy despises super earth?
I had enough of vox and ball torture
giving war striders an actual non-heavy weakpoint and an ammo limit on their grenades would instantly fix them, and swedes will not do it.
>>560360708see>>560338429
>>560361810a SPEAR needs 13 shots to crack the armour. Spear comes with 4 shots and gets 3 back per resupply box, for a total of 3 resupply boxes.RR needs 16 shots to crack the armour. RR comes with 6 shots and gets 5 back per resupply box, for a total of 2 resupply boxes.
>>560362418The support weapon duo you use is Spear and Autocannon and you just use the AC in the cave.
>>560362734Have you still not answered why super earth ammo is on those planets?
>>560362132>vox are a well designed enemy
>>560362936>Moving the goalpostI will answer when you get an actual argument.
>>560363007So you can't answer it? Thank you. Now curse vishnu by name.
>>560363112So you have no argument?Thank you.
>>560362887Nice, and you're going to perfectly hit all 16 of those shots in the same shell at all distances while accounting for the rocket's drop distance because you are a perfect person that is better than a lock on.
>>560362734Noi stopped caring ever since i started cheating in SC
>>560363127I gave you an argument, you just do not like it because it obliterates yours. Curse vishnu by name.
>>560363306Your argument was "whataboutism"Ergo, not an argument. Or are you implying the ability to pick up 10 SC is as important as being able to find ammo to fire your gun?Either way, it tells me how retarded you are and how you're mad about nothing. I will no longer be responding to your retarded non-arguments.
>>560362770You will fight the automatons and you will like it!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwm09IMxaKE
>>560362939Refute it. and dont confuse design with spawn/ damage values
>>560363306>>560363483can you guys kiss already?
>>560363007How did he move the goalpost? If ammo is there the wallet of the asshole who dropped the ammo off could be there too, or whatever. Shithead.
Personally I think it'd be logical for cyborgs to have super credits as a way to try and manipulate the SE economy. Maybe by trying to crack its encryption for counterfeiting operations or just using them for compromising investments
>>560363891I never thought that the cyborgs would be crypto bros.
did you bring me any super credits, sillydiver? :3
>>560363891>spawn some dead SEAF or helldiver bodies>SC sometimes near their bodies because it is not unreleastic that they wouldn't be carrying anyit is not that deep.
>>560363483>never refuted it.>ignored it because he did not like it.Why would they destroy a worthless currency (to them) instead of destroying enemy ammunition? Given how you have never been able to refute this, I will now accept your concession. Any future replies will be responded by telling you to curse vishnu by name (something you have not been able to do).
>>560363891they probably buy shit from SE from time to timeSE being a yogurt based ancapistan and all
>>560363675stop looking for logic from an indian. cheat in super credits to harm his izzat instead.
>>560363635Virtually no weak points and negates 90% of the tools you carry in favor of anti-tank options which have painfully limited uses which would not be an issue if not for... Drum roll... Spawn rate.Yes, that is part of it, faggot. You never just see two or three, there's always eight or more. Two plus two is four and that's the answer even if you tell me not to answer with four.
>>560349865You retarded baboon. It literally only effects like 1% of the population and you have no idea what you are talking about or how it works and I hate you and I hope you shit yourself. This Captcha system is also broken as fuck and I can only post like once an hour due to being stuck at verification and I want this hour to be about how you're retarded.
>>560363635>head isn't a fatal part>can clip into itself to shoot divers under it>can lean its torso to hide the butt vent>enemies can see, shoot, and walk through the treads while divers die on contact>minguns shoot for like 5 seconds into its death animation>head capsule and its plates have lingering hitboxes well after they hit the ground, making you flinch
>>560364351*affects
>>560360708The Illuminate campaign escalates on the 17th, prompting super earth to release the new warbond equipment to generate new epic TikTok clips. WW1 trench warfare meets LE EPIC SQUID MAGIC. Epicsauce team killing ensues. The FRV and Bastion breaks because of new strings added relating to the APC that will be dropped soon. All of the Flamethrowers accidentally become good which will be hotfixed before the weekend. Screencap this.
Vox Engines be like
What kind of retarded argument is it that there is no SC in a megafactory because "lore reason" when the fucking hiveworlds were practically uninhabited for a year yet still has SC spawns via PoIs like crashed pelicans? Just fucking put in PoIs on megafactories with crashed Super Earth vehicles or piles of dead Super Earth soldiers with SC near the pile. The reality is the faggot swedes consciously decided to not have SC spawn on megafactories because they are faggots. Not for lore reasons.
>>560362939reddit image
>bots arent fun anymore>bugs were never fun>squids are basically xanax>3/4 of the shit we have feels like ass to usegame sucks desu
>>560363635>what is 2+2, and don't even think of saying 4 is the answer!
>Redditors unironically hope the flamethrower backpack explodes when shot
>>560363483>"whataboutism"A made-up word created by redditors to get out of situations where they are caught being hypocritical btw
>>560363483I'm going to cheat in a other ten thousand SC because of your comments. Keep in mind, if not for you and arrowhead's greedy nature every piece of SC I have ever acquired would have been paid or grinded for. But now I am 30k SC richer. Soon to be 40k. You did this.
>>560364821you're wasting your time, he's just going to start concession posting
>>560364867because it'd be so epic and funny XD imagine the tiktok clips bro!
>>560364189I have no horse in this race I just wanted to point out he was wrong but that said, side note: I don’t like to cheat in SC for a couple of three reasons. One, I want to have a reason to hit POIs and grind and play the game. 2, I was hating AH for fucking up the Xbox launch but since they’ve cleaned the game up it’s as good as it’s ever been so AH being “bad” isn’t even on my radar, and thirdly I don’t want them to suddenly crack down on SC cheaters and have my account banned out of nowhere as Helldivers 2 is my favorite game I play constantly every day. I have everything unlocked already obv and sitting on 4k+ SC rn just playing the game.
I've cracked it. I've figured it out. I've solved the mystery. Hear me out, okay?Let's imagine that on D10 X enemy spawns at a rate of 1 per minuteand on D6 X enemy spawns at a rate of 1 per 5 minutes. Now let's imagine there is a player out there that really doesn't like the fact that X enemy spawns at a rate of 1 per minute on D10, that this player would very much prefer it if X enemy spawned at only a rate of 1 per 5 minutes on D10. However, this player vehemently refuses to play on D6 where the spawn rate is at his desired amount, instead he wants the developers to lower the spawn rate on D10 to the D6 rate. Simply put this player wants the difficulty of D6 while being able to SAY he plays on D10 because his ego is too fragile to survive having to lower the difficulty number. He's fine with playing on what is effectively that difficulty but he just doesn't want anyone, even himself, to KNOW he's playing on that difficulty.Really gives you something to think about
>>560364886>>560364932>Still no argument>Still not even talking about the gameI accept your concession.
>>560364323>Virtually no weak points and negates 90%Nigger they weakpoints including a fucking bespoke "kill it with your liberator and a frag grenade" weakpoint. You just can't one tap it with RR. Take a different support weapon for once.
>>560365061If you curse Vishnu right now I will abstain from cheating in the credits. The ball is in your court.
>>560360116Yes. The devs don't understand that these two things are not equivalent.
>>560365193the devs understand they're not equivalent, they're just actively malicious
>enemy replacements instead of fielding tanks, war striders, and vox engines all at onceYou know, make the game actually play like what's presented on the current title update art. It still bothers me. It will continue to bother me.
>one trigger pull of the double freedom down a fortress chokepoint>5 killsthis weapon is sexy
This is definitely me when I'm sitting in my bubble shield, pointing and laughing at my teammates who are about to die to the Solo Silo that I just called on our exact position.
>>560365185See: >>560365061
>>560364382>jank is part of enemies designholy fuck dudeno, the ousourced designers dont specify "can clip through terrain"
>>560360159It was a bit slow and we got about 6000.I will do one more next week same time and day if im home.
>>560365874ggit was more fun than playing d10 bots
The vox as a super heavy that can't be one-tapped with an RR is a sound design. The current faults with the vox can be summed up as:>they forgot to check the box to count the sarcophagus as lethal>maybe the cringe cannons don't need 8000hp of level 5 armor each (0% transfered to main)>their top speed is probably too fast>destroying the treads should probably immobilize or at lease hobble them>They shouldn't be able to shoot down through their own body>Their grenade hatch is probably a bit too small and finicky considering that they considering that they can zip off at 40kph or obstruct it with the torso.>the spawn rate of these super heavies are probably too high considering just how heavily that these things are supported by infantry.On mintoria they didn't spawn as frequently and the damn things were ganked constantly by gatling and eagle strafing runs before people could finish calling in levelers. Voxes have some undercooked facets to them, but the problem giving people trouble is that they're spawning at rate that demands builds heavily skewed towards anti-superheavy, and many of those builds falter when faced with the heavy infantry presence that is also being spammed alongside the commander borgs. Even then the good players have adapted and mostly don't start choking until within a megafactory where eagles get fucked by AAA, bombardments get fucked by reposition timers, and the rest of our stratagems get fucked by retarded bouncing.
>>560360845Tell me more.
>>560364867It should be obscenely overpowered in exchange for blowing up when heavily damaged. That WOULD be fun.But instead it's gonna be dogshit, so blowing up just adds to the shitfuck experience.
>>560365820If jank isn't part of the enemy design, then please explain rupture warriors at release, or fleshmobs clipping into terrain for a year now, or shotgun flame devs randomly one-shotting you also for a year, or impaler being able to attack while dead
>>560360845Kill vague posters
>>560366295I don't think the spawn rate is even an issue if they fix the rest of your complaints about them. I want to get into a fucking brawl with a train of vox engines, but the problem is their jank makes that brawl more frustrating than engaging.
>>560366295>It's a sound design, they only need to practically redesign all of it>Swiggers aren't retarded they're just immensely stupid
>>56036084560% durable vents, retard
>>560360159Got about 5k.Thanks for the stimulus check.I've already spent like 40 bucks on swedish super credits, don't want to spend a bunch more.
>>560365956There will be another shredder tank event next time.
this game would be a lot more fun if 90% of every map wasn't as flat as a fucking board or wide open
>>560366507Jank is simply shit they cant fix due to everyone moving to the next game. The maintenance team meanwhile has adopted the fake it until you make it mindest. That and a sprinkle alexus
>>560366713The enemy is fundamentally sound on paper. They just fucked up on execution.
>>560366896Then go fight on a city map
>>560366896The hilly Norway-like planet is by far the best one. Tons of super high points that aren't a slog to climb.
>150 notices I'm still picking up samples and starts picking them up too>tags POIs for me >lets me play with his leveller Thank you Daddy
>>560366830Same reason i got the cheats.Got the game, the super citizen dlc and then spent another 40 on sc thinking "ill get the rest while playing" and after grinding 3 more warbonds i got sick of it.
>>560366295The real killer is that they simply spawn in such unreasonable numbers (and no, I refuse to believe that AH intended this). For how much effort goes into killing one at D10, you get another two or three that spawn almost immediately after, and all the ordnance and stratagems you spent killing the last one were completely wasted. Trying to be efficient is a fool's errand because the grenade hatch kill is high-risk and unreliable, while at the same time there are no weak points that you can focus to kill it in less ordnance and thus you're forced to deplete its entire main HP pool.It's like being in the bad old days of Charger Behemoths needing two AT rounds to kill apiece but then spawning at least one or two per patrol, or the scientist evacuation mission where six Bile Titans just roam around the complex chain-killing you and your team because they take two AT headshots to kill apiece and all that shit is on cooldown or dropped on the ground underneath the Bile Titans where you can't get at it.
>>560360845>just get in melee of the vox>just ragdoll yourself>just do a long reload while a million small shitter bots blast you>just ragdoll youtself againeven if it worked, it wouldnt really work better than any light pen gun blasting the vents.
>>560366856>shredder tank eventWhat's this?
>>560366713>>It's a sound design, they only need to practically redesign all of itno? they need to fix bugs and slightly adjust a few numbers. that's not redesigning it at all.
>>560366965>sick of fighting on flat maps? go fight on flat maps!
>>560367135I was fucking around with spawning and spawned like 10 tanks next to the people who joined me because i didnt see the tanks spawn.
>>560366930It's funny because for a small maintenance team, they're well capable of fixing the jank that benefits us, ain't that weird.
>>560367242You think you do, but you don't, fighting on maps with hills is ass.
>>560364610i wish i played this game series back in the day but i own most or all the ps1, ps2 era games on gog, are the ports any good? better to emulate/play on original hadware (am retrogamer myself)
>>560364664>>bots arent fun anymorejust play a planet without cyborgs?
>>560330484>wait 4 hours to respond>send me my own post>still doesn't say all sentries are bad, just that they die too fast to rocketsFaggot
>>560367091Yet we have the tools to efficiently chew through 11k worth of HP. Many players simply haven't finished adapting their tactics to account shift away from the "one tap a vital point with an RR or just hit it with a thermite" approach that is the solution to killing many other armored targets.Gatling barrage shits out a metric shit ton of AP5 damage with one of the shortest CDs in the game. Strafing run, when it isn't cucked by factory AAA, is also a brute DPS staple as seen from its success vs the hive lords. One single drum of HMG ammo at the treads is equivalent to ~5000 damage. Pyrotech sparklers tangled up in the treads often damage multiple treads simultaneously for thousands of points of effective damage. If giga grenades have AP5 explosions then they'll jump up as a anti-vox staple quickly. C4 is another efficient option for killing them, but it will suffer if pvt retard routinely wastes resupply pods on the wrong side of the map. We have the tools to chew threw tens of thousands of HP on the regular.
>>560367502The original PC ports are not great (SR2's PC port in particular is awful), emulation is the way to go unless you want to buy the remastered collection.
>>560347140anti air eagle dog fighting enemy ships would be too cool so it can under no circumstances ever be allowed to happen
>>560367805>SR2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb6krthxG-k&pp=ygUOZ2FuZ3N0ZXIgYml0Y2g%3D
>>560367720The problem isn't the health, the problem is there being 4 of them on the map at all times, with bot drops shitting out an extra 3 right on top of you the second a flare pops. People couldn't care less if they were as frequent as factory striders (the unit it's supposed to replace btw)
>urban maps in 2026
>>560367720I heard shilling on youtube that the giga grenade will be a Ultimatum but throwable (short range), is Ultimatum AP5?
>8 vox spawn on extract right before we get therethey really should not spawn outside of the factory walls
>>560367091>while at the same time there are no weak points that you can focus to kill it in less ordnance and thus you're forced to deplete its entire main HP pool.Thank s to jank it dies to 3 variable shots
>urban maps in 2010
Smokes have been the MVP of megafactories. Especially smoke pods.
>>560367392They havent done anything but value adjusting in two years
>>560368228>Suggesting anything even a little reasonablelol
>>560368217I like how urban maps are the size of a a tiny hamlet, to the point you can easily walk from one end to the other in maybe 15 minutes, making the existence of cars in them a complete mistery.
>>560368393>diff 9
>>560368441they're not cars, they're actually proximity mines that happen to be shaped like cars
>>560368452You're right, it should be D7
>>560367281Oh I was excited for a moment that you were able to get tank surge working.
>>560368441Those tunnel exits and entrances imply there are hundreds of these small colonies dotted across the planet, accessible only via tunnels.
>>560368353new alexandria was kino in the campaign. if HD2 city maps had even 1/10th the soul that did
Drone backpack but its a long distance attack drone.Attacks only the enemy you mark and it glides around in the sky until you mark another enemy or call it back.Fires 6 laser shots with its built in talons while diving at the target and repeats until the target is dead or its interrupted by an order.Has a propellers and is basically like an rc plane of pic related.
>>560368353I think the mini cities (and megacities for that matter) could use some work too anon, but you're comparing procedurally generated tilesets to a hamd crafted level in a corridor shooter.
>>560368723That would actually be useful and that's not allowed.
>>560368723loitering munition would be pretty cool, would be maybe like an airstrike but instant response
>>560368353Somehow you are not even wrong. This was urban maps before they were introduced to the game.
>>560367281kek
>>560368574>settling a planet>make a whole bunch of tiny villages, walled with the shittiest walls that do not protect from anything>spend 1 gorillion super credits of government funds boring the tunnels for a fuckhuge underground roadway system to protect... cars?you'd think they would just ditch the walls and just make the whole city underground, or, alternatively, make the roads overground so we have cool superhighways going across the entire map
>>560369176You'd think they'd make an entire map out of those colony suburbs, but no.
robbie doko
>>560369176This IS Super Earth we're talking about it here. I wouldn't put it past them that their urban planning is completely pants on head retarded. I suppose outside of the insane attacks living in some tiny ass urban center in bumfuck nowhere on a desert planet would be kinda comfy I guess? It'd be living in Nevada except the scorpions are 6 feet tall and look vaguely wavey-like.
>>560368792>you're comparing dog shit hastily scooped into ripped paper bag to a video game designed by a team of professionals to provide the best possible experience for the playerI am well aware.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242768743303/D10 lobby decides
mom they're using lore reasons to excuse the laziness and incompetence of the developer again
>>560367720>Yet we have the tools to efficiently chew through 11k worth of HPOk but do we have the tools to chew through 44k worth?
>>5603694783/4, just bee yourself
>>560369019>E3 trailer syndrome
>>5603695374 teammates, 4 gatling barrages. Stop trying to solo everything. Consider lowering the difficulty if this does not pan out for you.
New>>560369741>>560369741>>560369741
The vox engines arent a problem if the team has 2 people with a brain.Most random pubs dont have 1.
>>560369703>4 teammates, 4 gatling barrages.And if those are all on cooldown?
>>560369392Considering there are so many assets that just don't appear often enough or at all I think your comparison is actually apt.
>>560368160>the problem is there being 4 of them on the map at all times,sirwhere is your team?
>>560369537With HMG, gatling, and ultimatum I can kill two voxes without needing to start tapping into the supply backpack.
>>560368218ultimatum is AP6.
>>560312748>robots aren't genetically diverse like /ourguy/'s family wasyep, robots are the bad guys
>>560369969I stopped trying to bruteforce my wat through and just run a commando build. If solo, I don't often trigger Vox patrols, and in teams i just tackle objectives separately from the main party. Same as Cyberstan, people just don't realise how going all commando trivialises cyborgs.
>>560314534More of arrowcuck's philosophy of 'if it's good enough to have a high pick rate, then it's OP'. So yet another strat that people fuck around with for a week and then forget about because it's more trouble than it's worth. The fact that it needed two people to operate properly should have been enough to allow it to be good
>>560380983What's a good commando build?
