Thread for the discussion of Honkai Impact 3rdREAD THIS BEFORE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S MOST LIKELY HEREhttps://rentry.org/vffr2https://rentry.org/hi3newbieguidehttps://rentry.org/hi3newbieresourceshttps://rentry.org/hi3resourceshttps://rentry.org/ElfSkillUpgrades>Story guide for newcomershttps://hoyostans.be/explore/honkai-impact-3rd/consumers-guide-hi3>Shattered Swords VNhttps://youtube.com/channel/UCyeHz1CGgJkXJd-c7lw_RiQ>Latest CN supply, event, abyss, and MA cycles:https://marisaimpact.com/calendar85>v8.7 Passage to New Dawns Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nSjq8rQAPo >Raiden Mei's New S-rank Battlesuit Xentinel · Dawnbearing Crescent Previewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2XCpAl3pc >Xentinel · Dawnbearing Crescent Tutorial Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2yk1sy78tc> Every Valkyrie, Every World, All at Oncehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0sKwLqexU Previous: >>559680312
Seele!
Shiteele!
Awesomeele!
I love Seele and Seele loves me.
We all hate Seele here
I QTE my Seele into the front-row and equip her with Shamash. I end my turn.
>>560320476my wifeiana
We all love Seele here.
>>560320718>>560320920So true!
>>560320615!eleeS
>>560320994I gochu, sis!
>>560320476Cutest best girl unlike ugly cuckshitlysia
>>560320994Aaaah mihoyo just take my debit card already
Hehehe
Had a wonderful time with a Mei senpai!
This was a funny matchWe met again!
>>560323835ggI misclicked twice and it should've been over sooner
>>560323916Ikr I was wondering why you were letting me have it so easy lol
https://x.com/Hyume_26/status/2032624933969580131
>>560323916But I let you win!Because I'm nice!I haven't unleashed my full power yet!
>Looked up that official merch of the controller with elysia slapped onto it because I was curious>559 chink coins (~81 USD)The hell. That's barely more expensive than the Vader 5 it's a skin of, even the ''deluxe'' edition with the charging dock(?) is like ten extra bucks. Is mihoyo merch usually priced like this or am I just fucking up conversions? Looking through the website it seems to be leaning towards the former, even that loli Seele is about 30 USD.Still a bit tacky and overstated, but it's not really something to show off anyway, so I guess it's a decent value.
https://files.catbox.moe/z2l9k2.mp4
Ellie...
Mei! Mei! Mei!I love Mei!
>>560333381You used my pic before I could uwaaaaaa uwaaaaaaa
>>560333430
>>560333598I'm fine dun worry
Which patch is 10th anniv
>>560333673kiana is paizuri baiting in this image
>>560335538Do not the chinky tuna
>>560335538she is baiting me in every image that fiend
>>5603348599.1
Is this canon?https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141679886
>>560336480Me on the right
its up
>>560336624came to post this
>>560336909Want
>>560336624Why are you ginger?
>>560336108Is it going to be Senadina or Kiana
>>560337807do you really think they'd give the 10th anniversary to a part 2 character c'mon now
I claimed the Chinese blonde prostitute, what does she do?
YY being Lightning means that Part2eele will be Lightning.QUA/Lightning and WS.The fact that sleepy Teriri drops in the BP in 8.8 is just a coincidence.>>560339426She has a lot of sex with Selma.Exceptionally good in SD weather, good allrounder support.
>>560337348Why would I be a ginger? I'm Kiana's shoe
>>560339378Well you never knowI want it to be Kiana
>>560339426she's a merchant
>>560336480No, the captain isn't real
>>560336480kys
>>560337807It's going to be elysia. Her ultimate will be pulling her pants down and shitting onscreen. She'll shit so much that all the enemies will drown in her faeces and get eliminated as she commits sepuku and dies covered in her own shit and piss. If you trigger her qte it will be a torrent of her diarrhea sprayed at the enemy inflicting them with stacks of cancer and AIDS.
>>560343018and the chinese fanbase will go wild, they'll say it's the best thing ever and that it proves anyone who hates Elysia must be an idiot
>>560343018
I see everyone and their mothers getting the dog fucker with those 20 free pulls, I am tempted to roll now.
>>560343018I wouldn't be the least bit surprised >>560343246True
>>560343485Don't be tempted. "Everyone" is basically 4-5 lucky players who posted online instead of the thousands who got absolutely nothing for free.
>>560343485I didn't get the dog with mine, don't do it unless you plan to commit
>>560344760I want this team but I still need Kiana
>>560320476Me licking the cream off from near Kianners mouth
>>560344886Everyone wants Kiana
>>560344886Back off. Kianya is mine and only mine. I'm not sharing no matter what!
I had the strangest premonition that Seele won't be Fire because they're planning to add Firefly because she was leaked before.
>>560337807>1.8 CH and FS>2.6 SJ>3.4 TP>4.3 Delta>5.2 Mobius and Raven>6.1 Sushang>7.0 Luna>7.8 Vita>8.5 ElysiaLong overdue to be one of the trio.Kiana and Mei have part 2 suits so it should be hoyo's ceo Bronya.
>>560346264Nahhhh it's gonna be acheron
>>560346264YY is Lightning. She will be Lightning.
>>560345064That's cum
>>560346679But until Vita CN anniversary was only the third most important patch after herrscher patch and CNY. Now it is CN anni, CNY and Herrscher patch is dead.
>>560346679It's hard for the decade valk to be Bronya ngl. Kiana makes the most sense for that milestone.
new bita and bita dk for anni
>bita
>>560346679Hua because china.
10th anniversary will be Misato
Soon
>>560352303Himekobros!
Helia will get a skin.
Naked Helia
>>560354331>wife bitayeah, mineoh no wait that sounds wrong>free seelei believe>sexo part2eele seeles
>>560354331/e20250919anniversary-pf5r10/shareGODS run this general
>>560354331>sexo part2eele seeles
There will be more KianaMei
There will be more SenaLeylah
There will be more BronSeele
There will be more Reisuka or Asukei.
>Free Sardine next patch
Reminder
Plot twist: The next Bronya will be on the Year of the Horse and therefore mounted. She will ride a horse instead of a motorcycle.
>>56034667910th anniversary HoV. Trust the plan.
Will Chink Bronya fight with cannons or melee?
Bronya hasn't won a fight for more than 5 years
>>560360413She probably won at least one night battle in bed.
>>560360559No, Seele tops her.
>mfw Bronya wears pantyhose now therefore she can't choke you with her silk stockings>mfw adult Boobnya will never weaponize her pantyhoseWill next year's Bronya weaponize her leggings?
>>560360158Kiana got Monkey King's weapon. Mei got Guan Yu's. Who will Bronya borrow from?
I am sad because new Mei kept her HoT walk but not her choke.
>>560359412based
I'm scared they'd turn Bronya into some cannon trap character like Vi
>>560320476Stumbled upon some music from the game and kinda dig it. Worth it to start playing this late?
>>560320476
>>560363119Don't anon, there's too much boobs, butts, thighs, feet, and especially arnpits. They recently kept adding big breasted characters and made a loli go barefoot. This game lacks the proper censorship to appeal to you.
>>560363454I miss Donkey ears...
The most unexpected surprise for the upcoming Bronya is she will be a melee Bronya.
This will be the next Seele.
Oh yeah, Mei used to use guns. I forgot.
Astral Ring when?
>>560366042I need to know her name. Obviously... an ancient astrologist.
>>560368823probably ptolemy
>>560369184
Is Kianas banner up?
please respond I'm f5ing every 5 seconds
what do they mean with "alternating" supplies? does it rotate every day or something??
>>560371013KianaVita will replace the CoralieHelia banners. Then CoralieHelia will show up again after KianaVita.
We need her.
>>560371013Weekly rotation because the game wants to make me wait longer for my Kianners.
>>560371240She's doing the AR pose, lmao
>>560371353So Kiana Monday?
>>560371441Patch day is Thursday. Kiana Thursday.
>>560371693But I need her NOW
>>560371789me too...
Seele Sunday!
>>560371221I lave all 4. Who do I roll for with the free rolls??
>>560372104bita
>>560372032Sundeele!
phew
>>56036960819th march
>>560354331>Badum loveAlways!
I LOVE KIANNER KASLANER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE LOVE KIANNER KASLANER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I basically have no team for Xentinel yet because I lack Badum.I actually don't even want to play abyss like this.
>>560380141Your hecking pupper or Luna?
Will Kongming ever get anything or is Captain for Luna?
Captain is a woman and she is for ME.
>>560392817Kongming will get a chair
Lick
Kill
>>560396267It's some nice pedicare, I'll give you that. But the lack of shoes provide no practical advantage whatsoever
>>560397564She is a streamer not a fighter
Seelebros...
>>560404247>most used
>>560404247My daily fight today was against some Russian (I suppose, because of cyrillic letters) who had 10k points. It was a Seele mirror. Seele won.It was also funny because he quit when it was 3-1 in my favour.Russians usually don't like to lose to someone with 1/4 their points.
>>560404247I'll even it out. when (if) i play more matches.
>>560405116Haha look at her go!
I would be fine without a non-pvp event for a year after this
>>560406459I miss co-op
>>560406459The prop hunt ripoff is pretty alright tbdesu.
>>560406665I don't really think about it>>560406746chibi lobby is an exception but it does kinda add up when you consider it's the third in a row
>>560406459without a pvp*fuck messed it up after retyping it
I'm so bad at this prophunt game.
>SS Youyun is a gigaELF/4th char on WSI guess she really is the "valk"
>>560410707Aiiiiiiiieeeee SSS DS is making SS AOs too strong
>>560411134SS->SSS DS is literally nothing
>>560416983why this seele looks at me like this
>>560417859She wants (You), Bologna onee-chan.
I'm finally free from Raven's bullying. Just don't bring back her Frost version.
You know what, I'm going to say it, after watching it in the lobby Because of You was a really good animation, possibly in my top three.
So easy.
>>560418820Where's my cheerleader Seele and caregiver Seele...
>>560419172Busy making dinner
>>560419038I always hide in the kitchen, most people don't even know you can go in there.
The bleed deck is so stupid, you have to get completely fucked by RNG to lose with it
>>560418921It really was. It's a shama that it's for the pink thing.
>>560420120The best thing about the bleed deck is that it basically needs no ramp up. Most Kiana decks for example need you to get the battlesuits before you can really start doing anything, where as bleed doesn't really "need" anything, though Weapons and Teri's suit obviously help.
>>560422232Kianya chan my beloved
Holy shit, Mei talking to Helia in this event is probably the only time she's had decent character writing in literal years.
>>560422907boobs = characterboob growth = character growthrefute this homos
>>560418921I watched it too!!! It's still crap!
>>560420120I only lose to bleed when i get fucked by rng tbqhwyf
I would actually like to have a bleed Sushi.Circumstances made me not pull on Luna's DK as well.Whenever bleed comes up, I don't pull.Perhaps I should finally build my Bear so that I have Griseo/Bear/Senti for bleed bosses in MA and call it a day.
>>560424775Skipping Bleed Sushi has been my biggest regret this year. She's just relevant in so many teams and bosses. She's good into bleed, hit count etc.
>>560424917Not just that, she's also very cute and very Chinese.
https://youtu.be/99Tvng_zJv0?si=uoh5U0vWxHzlRp2n
>>560431000Seele's turn next!Break a leg, Seele!
>>560431353Seele!
>>560431808Imagine how great she would look in a wheelchair like bronya
>>560431856
>Play Dudu Deck>Used Ai chan for more cards>Lost my BKE and Sussy cards on the first turnSometimes i really hate this card
>>560418921The shift between animation is nicely done.
Censorship
Isn't it funny that miHoyo's games with less resources and staff are able to blow Hoyoverse's games out of the water? How does that even happen?
>>560438320You can just see the hsr dollars pumping into our game lolWe enjoy the labors of others hardwork :D
>mfw reading the comics only to find everything has been retconned
>2025 Snake Kiana>2026 Horse MeiWill 2027 be Goat Bronya?
>>560444958Greatest of all time!
>>5604449582027 Bronya would be Zani clone
I've just thought, what is Siegfried's and Teri's relationship like? Does she count as family due to cloning shenanigans like how Kiana considers her an aunt?
>"Why have you drawn a moon crater?">"Obviously it's the reunion dinner!">"Where is the food?">"Duh, we've already eaten it!"Senti is such a kid, I love her for it. Easily some of the best characterization Hoyo have ever done.
>>560438320>write a yuri story>it's good>write a literal sitcom that's supposed to suck the dick of the self-insert retard>it's abysmal dogshita true mystery
>>560434250I got rid of the green deadweight a lot time ago
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/44178921
>>560422938This imply that Hua (and Senti by extention) and non-Luna Theresa have no characters
>>560449168boo bua is coming
>>560449168yeah they are flat characters
>>560445290She is jelly because she's lesbo for Cecilia and she sees him as a horndog who'd even fuck his daughter given the early game simulation and the comics.
Next year Bronya will summon Cocolia and Sin Mal to help
So whats even worth getting in the spending event shop?
>>560453417Sw frags
>>560453417I'll spend all of it onELF crate
>>560455310>Elfs>In the year 2026
>>560453417Shoujaku bs
>>560424917She is relevant precisely because hoyo knows most people skipped her so her weathers appear a lot pt make you roll for her.
>>560456263I'd like to collect'em all
Vill-V got kinda shafted didn't she?Overshadowed by HoHE's release, got one outfit and powercrept really fast by Sparkle.
>>560460659QUA in general is cucked
>>560460659HoHE turned the weathers into ice. Then HoFi took fire after. Then Sussanah rippled her usefulness. I skipped her first banner thinking I'd get her on a rerun if I'm lucky enough and I'm still skipping her now even in the legacy shop since I want something else more.
>>560460659yeah
>SushangI have no interest.>Sin MalI now have interest.
I forgor.
Does Seele rember?
>mfw still no cecilia but they gave more elysia
remember when Elysia brutally killed HoC (who just wanted to live) for literally no reason because Elysia the antichrist is just an awful ugly bitch
@560470970
Remember when HoC took over Elysia's body and was way better looking, more interesting and infinitely more likeable?
Collab part 2
Uncensored yuri
>>560470970HoC gave no reason to assume it wasn't hostile and hell bent on murdering everything
Whats going on here?
>>560472623>Elysia is jewish and assumed everything wanted to exterminate her as much as she wanted to exterminate itThat explains a lot
>>560472845The ultimate lifeform
>>560472980It gets abit creepy when you notice shes tracking you
>>560473417Spookeele.
>>560473417>she sees you're dick
I played the Sushi the dorm cards gave me for free in ER and had no idea what I was doing. Accordingly, I thought she sucked badly.
I play card games on motorcycles.
Don't use Rock against Mei.
Some of you guys are alright.Don't go to St. Freya tomorrow.
>>560484204Umm... what the fuckYour post has been forwarded to Schicskal
card game yuri.
NOOOO CENSOR THE YURI NOW NO MORE SEX
more yuri more girls kissing girls more kiamei more bronseele
Ok but seriously where's the fucking Valkyrie Nipple Chart? Dawei you motherfucker I know you have it.
Me still want Cecilia battlesuit
more ryona yuri
>>560473417
WENDY STILL EXISTS
who
>>560503453Where are the sex puppets?
>>560473417Don't worry about it.
>mfw these newfag fcfagsof course that as a newfag you love them, why wouldn't you? Older players hate them because they picked the game for a different cast of characters, got attached to said characters over the years and all of a sudden the cast was replaced with filler characters from 50k years ago that we're supposed to feel bad about? I would have liked ER a lot more if it stayed as a side story like it was at the start but they used it as filler shit while they figured out what to do with the main story and it left a sour taste on a lot of peoples mouth.That's why there's so many newfags gushing about how they started for Elysia and reminding everyone every hour how they saved everything for her and will roll her but there's also a lot of jaded veterans that are tired of the flamechasers and want the old cast to come back.
She's not a polar bear, so this poor girl has to cuddle with Sushi to keep herself warm. Chinagirl's cooking must be amazing, considering the bear enjoys to eat her out as much as she does.
sometimes launcher mei is an image sometimes shes a gifwomen
Thanks, Seele!
>>560508472WHAT!!????AGAGSFSGSSLOGGING IN RNOW I JUST WOKE UP
>>560505923I'm a newfag but I'm more tired of her than you already lolAnd funny enough I still don't have enough xtals to get HLE AGAIN XD
I can't believe ely mention just killed the thread
>>560517203We hate the pink thing here
Genshin Impact ruined Honkai.
Uh oh, Seele!
stfu roza, you're pink tooyou're guilty by association
>>560517380zased
>>560518086kekypow
>>560518086Roza might be pink, but she's good. Not every pink is a pink thing. Look at YY! She's both cute and also funny.
>>560519176>>560519450Youyun>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>piss>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>cancer>>>>>>>used condom>>>>>>>>shitlysia
>still 3 days until Badum supply (which also means I'll claim my Cuteque)
EZ
https://x.com/i/status/2033196071204294824
>>560522341vita sucks
>>560522341sucking vita
>>560523945That's a big butt
>>560523945As far as I know, it's confirmed that this is Ptolemy.
Next time! Seele Dies
Next time! Seele Rebirths
Next time! Seele Seeles
niggers all of them
>>560527712And Buronya onee-chan!
>>560535440Senadiner
>>560535440Lsbian, Groomer, and a liar
>Selma weatherthis is good weather>inb4 ackshully it's pink weatherit's Selma weather
Sneedina's Groom and Vroom
>>560546830Seele!
>use cabbage>discard all my evosthanks ai chang
>>560549790You're battlesuit supply card?
>>560550019she got them too
>>560535440Grooming...
Why are they like this
>>560548890It's Seele weather actually.
>be Bronya>spontaneously ceases to exist every now and then
>>560553516She's fine.
>>560553516>be Bronya>you're wins feel hollow and meaningless>Coralie does all the work and beats your gaming highscores>be the third wheel to Kiana and Mei
Seelecakes won't eat themselves
>>560553516>be Bronya>do busy work/job since fucking Cyber Angle>finally get an arc in the finale>no one cares, get outshone in her final arc by her fucking mum and hare.Please just put her down already.
We need this yuri.
>>560554469>be Bronya>let the dog intern work for you>let Kianner and Mei do the valk stuff>eat Seelecakes>eat out SeeleShe doesn't do much, but her life is good.
Would anything change? He's barely a character in ER.
>>560555547Bronya won...
>>560556673To be fair, I think Hoyo made the right call by not really focusing on Hua and Kebin during the ER. They already exist outside.
>>560548890it's a buroro stage
World Star is the best Astral Ring, it's not even contest.
>>560563109you only say this because it has seele
>>560563742That's correcteele.
>>560563742I want to say yes, but it's unironically easy to play and satisfying. It also has Sena, will have Buronya and a lot of fun supports.
I miss the Donkey ears...
So about the whole Kebin kills Elysia part, why wasn't it shown with a CG and all?
>>560570146she's not allowed to be depicted in distressing situations
>>560570389Chinese fans would literally kys themselves
EE is weird because it gave Elysia too much attention yet cut pivotal scenes
Is this true?
>>560575494>elysia>aisyle>ai slop
>>560575494Unfortunately
>>560575494>RedditThe mark of the shit take.
>>560575494That's a lot of text to say that Hsr rushed the finale
So why did Mei dream of Elysia flirting with Kiana?
>>560578048she's japanese
I'm blind or dudu schizo has given up
The characters Mei likes the most got a special skill with her>One for Kiana>One for Elysia>The last one is not for BronyaThen who is it for?
>>560578748Cecilia to be nice to her mother in law
>>560578748>protag buff>pink buffchina buff new hua
>>5605787489.0 or 9.1 Kiana
>>560578748Bronya, but CNY Bronya, that will drop for the year of the goat, will unlock this for every Bronya.
>>560578748SW has a similar locked skill while also having skills for Seele suits and Kiana & Mei suits.
Some of the chibis in the cny lobby got cycled out. The Seeles are in.
Seele is always in.
You really can't blame the bear for eating this one out. That looks great.
Bear bull bear bull
Seele sucks
Seele rocks
Heh, Mei can just insta-kill the evasion ninja in the Frost stage.
Seele socks
>>560592147Can I danceele with her like in previous year?
>>560602378Seele replaced Grisexo in the arcade...
Give more Senti
>>560602592I seele
>>560602592
Owari da
>>560611648Era of Seele!
I love bronseelebronseele heals me
>>560613026Same.
>>560611648Interesting.
>>560611648how can this be sisters, you assured me we were doing better than genshin and star rail
>>560579567they were definitely bigger than that
>>560611648Source?
>>560361319GIWTWM
>>560611648I just know that even if Honkai might come to an end, I will not play Shart Trail or Genshit.
>>560621751Same lolI'll only touch HNA IF Kiana has a bigger role otherwise no
So true!
>>560622215She's getting the ML treatment
>>560624494If Seele says so, it's true.I trust Seele.
>>560624658grim
>>560624494I didn't know they say more than one line.
My Seele deck has a 100% winrate. The bots stood no chance. Time to retire in Agony 2.
>>560611648If Hi3 dies i'll be at last free from the Hoyo circuit, unless HNA somehow hooks me
>>560627028Fine, Seele is awesome.
I have to admit, I have no idea what this HNA is your talking about.
I keep getting mailbox from Ai-chan about 5 crystal im missing from Lobbywhere the hell is it to claim manually
>>560628078we're investing in chinese aviation
>>560628139Do you release lanterns near Bronya?
>>560628195ok fine with me as long as there's tragic and deep yuri involving characters such as Kiana and Mei, Bronya and Seele or even Helia and Coralie.
>>560628239I did all of them, also for some reason the lobby button on my home has red notification on it.
>>560628964I'm not getting any mail and I believe I'm doing everything. Is the table crystals? That one just activated recently.
>>560627518>diesThey'll probably just outsource it to some other company to run in maintenance mode for a couple years.
>>560624658ML?
>>560628964Dude the food table. Click the icon on food table
>>560628964>has red notification on itfor some days now, I get ghost notifications like these when I login even if there is nothing to notify me about. Those always vanish after a few seconds, but it's still odd.
>>560628078Kiana's Honkaimon adventures bro
5NPRU9H5RRInstant cup noodle code
Speaking of hnaKiana and Acheron are going to meet
>>560633673The literal Goddess, Senadina
>>560634291Noiseele!
>>560633697Cuck swan is about to wear the green hat and join cuckshitlysia
>>560634291
>>560632757Master Love, basically she's for your self-insert character
>>560634951That doesn't piss me off the least bit since Kiana is literally my wife
>>560635396Mei-senpai...
>self-insert>hetshit>characters as shallow as a puddle>caricatures of the old guard who get thrown away as soon as "their arc" (they spend all of it sucking the self-insert's dick) ends>no story whatsoeverThe signs of genshinfication. If it's for the mass market, it's not for me.No Genshin, no Star Rail, no Nexus Anima.
>>560636393ZZZ is just as bad and that's exactly why I'm dropping Mihoyo after HI3 goes into maintenance mode.Tourists and casuals truly ruined everything.
>>560636552Of course indogs made this
Next thread pic should be
>>560639086Or
>>560637637Please save the game, Seele-sensei.
>>560639327Or this.
what did she mean by this
>>560639327
>>560639086>>560639327>>560639519Now only elysia guest drawing is left and they'll draw her getting cucked by kiana officially again
https://x.com/ms_dainichi/status/2033889347012071674?s=20
>>560645004Seele!
>>560639086Not a single pure maiden in this picture
>>560647812nice try whorelysia
>page 10grim
page what?
Seele is here today!
>>560655591Hi, Seele!
>>560656461giwtwm
>>560655591Seele can have my festive beatings
>>560656870Calm down Mei senpai
I'm having a hard time to like Rice Cake since I have actual snake phobia
>>560661260
>>560660646SUPER CUTESUPER BEST GIRLMY WIFEMY LIFEMY LOVE!!!!!!I FUCKING LOVE KIANA KASLANAAAAAAAAA
>>560661260petting rice cake cutie pie
https://x.com/jar0xx/status/2033641764549017800?s=20Defeat animationsKiana's is the cutest as always!!!!
>>560660646kianner posting hours are best
yeahhhhhhhqilin and rice cake are defo getting added in hna
>>560661260just imagine it's a condom
>>560660646
>>560660646>>560665541my babygirl
Playable Otto in HNA
>>560666472That coat looks like something ripped straight from Star Rail or Genshin.
>>560666472
>>560636393>>self-insert>>hetshit>>characters as shallow as a puddle>>caricatures of the old guard who get thrown away as soon as "their arc" (they spend all of it sucking the self-insert's dick) ends>>no story whatsoeverElysian Realm? Because you're describing Mei being a cameraman going through every new flame chaser.
>>560611648>2025 survey Oh no, I haven't done that one yet.
What is "Origin"?
>>560670048The opposite of Finality.
>>560670048Elysia's herrscher power.
>>560670961>>560671335But what is it?
>>560672021You don't need to know
>mfw suddenly reminded that Kebin during ER said the Will of Honkai isn't a thing, therefore setting up the Moon retcon about Prometheus
>>560672021retconning
>>560672021Whatever the writer wants it to be.
Prometheus has to be the biggest asshole AI in the cast>hacked honkai and directing herrschers>hey this sirin is getting her ass kicked how about I buff her including helping her bypass fenghuang down so to screw with hua my ally for no reason >herrschers helping humanity? k going to make sure hod has specific anti-herrscher powers the past era version didn't
Retcon Impact 3rd
Sirin killed two people, maybe three
I need to keep The Doctor away.
>>560666472Completely butchered if that is supposed to be Otto
Crazy how at one point Sirin had 6 cores: Void, Reason, Lightning, Wind, Death and Fire.
>>560679079give the ceo a task
>>560680187Pseudo cores in the last 3
>>560611648Fired because they didn't complete Seele's suit in time for 8.8
Oh no, more SPs!
>>560666472as if I needed any more reasons not to play this...
Give her SP
It began with yuri, it will end with yuri. This is the upcoming yuri.
Armpits
>>560692406kimpregnatiana
>mfw more Senti soon
>>560611648>they realize that HI3 is so much better even now than their other games that they're trying to redistribute employees to make others less shit
When?
What the fuck is up with this Beneres in superstring?It fucking takes forever to kill
>mfw the classic HI3 animation style required a partially outsourced animation team recreating assets for a different artstyle, which led to inconsistencies between the game and the animations. (like Kiana's suit in HoDom arc)
>>560700042Bella is fat.
Reminder to use new Mei to instant kill enemies.
They made Part 2 too good. They kept adding things like effects to animations like Vita's mech. Sushang's bamboo stalks, and more 3D models instead of 2D PNGs. It takes too long to make them. We need to become shittier.
>mfw part 2 will run until 2034
>>560700730>mfw discord will die before hi3
Part of what makes me sad about Elysia's writing is how everything that can be a flaw is never depicted so. She's a massive narcissist always praising her own looks or fishing for praise but it never bites her. Her teasing gets on some people's nerves but it never amounts to anything. Everything that can be portrayed as a flaw to balance her character better never does. Many Mary Sues have writing where they technically have flaws but they never become relevant or never cause problems, functionally never existing>i.e. Mary Sue can't sing or dance in a story those are never relevantCompare Kiana's selflessness. It's a normally positive trait actively portrayed as bad because it's seen as both a lack of regard for herself and tons of pain on her friends. Otto calls it a curse on the Kaslana line. It got so bad it's an active part of why Mei fought her and defected to WS. It has massive influence and it's part of her character development she grows out of it. They could've gave Sim Elysia some flaw that Mei helps her out of to show both sides being good to each other but they never did.
Next year Bronya will have a Bardiche.
I have the strange sadness Captainverse events won't be rerun because they want to hide how much Amphoreus stole from it. Especially with death loops and Tesla ZERO going back in time to complete the loop.
SR did us such a service? I won't be able to hate on that shitshow anymore...
I am sad because they're going to add Firefly as the next Fire.
again, i dont know what the fuck im missing
>>560711329Are you clicking on the food table with the crystal icon?
Give more Cecilia
>saw another ex-hi3 player removing Honkai 3rd in their bio>he exclusively plays wuwa and aether gazer nowlol
Higgers will still cope that nothing's wrong though. Not like they find anything's wrong with it considering oldfags already left and whatever's left here are anti-fanservice turbo newfag normgroids who play Genshin and HSR.
>>560714620Nice projection. Guy you posted never even played the game, because the touch mechanic was long gone before FCs
>>560714268>wuwa and aetherI see he doesn't like Kiana and Entropy but prefers the MC wank self insert harem style.
>>560714620>https://x.com/ap0nia_D2B48C/status/2024058769852739860>Feb 18, 2026The touch system was removed in around May 2022 for Japan but was removed in China 2018–2019 (which is like HoV-ish for those that don't remember). Aponia was added May 19, 2022 Japan. And given this is a Chinese title and they sure as hell didn't exclusively program animations for new battlesuits 3 years after a feature in CN was removed, how the fuck did that guy use a feature never made for Aponia?
It's all her fault
The thing about Twitter HI3 "fans" is the vast majority of them never played and if you press them to give proof they did, the most they do is grab a picture anyone could've grabbed from HoyoLabs because they'll post lobby or days played or something HoyoLabs people brag about, but if you press them on something specific or people have no use bragging about, they dodge your questions and make excuses. For example, ask them about data files or a lore entry almost nobody posts (unless it's to point out typos) because it's all on a wiki and nobody has any need to. Basically something easily accessed with little excuse why they can't access it, but nobody cares to access. They can't provide because it'd take too long for them to download multi-GB of a game or rush to scour HoyoLabs for someone to pretend to be than open the game and post.
>>560718224Buy her game.
Cuteele!
>>560714620>mantouch reactionThe pro-censorship fags are going to have a field day after everyone in this general is done facepalming over the fact that it doesn't exist.This is a falselfag right? A deliberate attempt by the censorshipfag(s) to make the opposition look bad? Because otherwise this is more proof the sex-loving "players" don't play.
>>560715931>>560718096Looks like a translation error.
>>560714620You could've gone out naked in the streets and exposed yourself less than posting that. Who do you think you're fooling? You should've known the Touch Feature was removed from CN but remained in JP unupdated and therefore there's no way a character added years after the CN removal has Touch reactions. You should know this enough to avoid linking a clueless moron who also doesn't know this.
Hey for shits and giggles, someone show this guy>>560714620 pic rom >>560354498. It'd be hilarious seeing his reaction to allegedly the most successful patches also being highest on censorship. He's speaking a hypothetical which it'd be hilarious if it was contrary to reality.
>Higgers are now coping that they never removed it, just discontinued for future charactersThe fact of the matter is that they stopped giving them touch mechanics and all of you newfags will keep defending Mihoyo even after they butchered 3rd for their newfound Genshit fans who still NEVER played their game anyway.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Q17JzNEb8
>genshittification started with HoVat last I truly see
>>560719941Never question oyohim even after they repeatedly fucked you over. That's what I call raped behavior
>>560719941>HoV copied Asmoday's designit was right in front of us
>muh not enough sex is genshinification >but also arguing censorship = bigger profitsAnyone want to tell the first one (assuming it's not the same as the second) that Part 2 is more sexualized than ever? So many adult characters have bigger boobs or fanservicy designs, we get blatant feet shoved in our face, swimsuit skins, etc.
>>560720010t. hov newfag contributing to the game's death
Did she deserve it?
I know Dreamseeker has had more screen time than Adam at this point, but she's WAY better especially once the male playable character was removed. She's her own character and not entirely a self-insert for one. Hell, compare to how Traveler and TB have basically 0 development after all this time. Mihoyo can still do okay MCs instead of self-insert shit that would make Pokemon Trainer Red look interesting.
>higgers are relegated to feet faggotry, the safest normalfag form of fanservice, as proof of Mihoyo not selling out and throwing HI3 to the wolves.grim. Have fun losing more players once Promilia releases.
>pretending to be seelefagYou're a bad falseflagger.
>>560720616Seelebros would never!
>>560720725I for one am glad. FFXVI fails so bad as a JRPG with a lack of meaningful party and RPG mechanics, it fails as a DMC clone with completely shallow depth, it fails as a Game of Thrones inspired work by being closer to Naruto, it's just a dreadful title. Knowing it will never get a sequel is pleasing.
The reason why HI3 is in the slump right now is because you fags have proven yourselves to Mihoyo that you'd accept any form of abuse from them. You fags really do deserve part 2.
>>560677998I will. You can't stop me!
>skip tickets>new ways that need less types of resources to get gear>ability to replay old events >elysian realm buffs and new characters make finality a breeze thus free 500 crystals>powercreep being so reduced that Senadina is still used in top meta teams though she's a 2 year old valk>bp crystallum lasts longer instead of expiringAh... The abuse...
>>560721737Just ignore that mind broken donkey, bro. He's jealous we're having fun while he still isn't.
https://x.com/m1s3ne/status/2033896373826040298?s=20AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>560721737>Armada not updated>deleting co-op mode instead of fixing it>never fixed the "new and improved" UI they took from Genshin>No new dorm updates>No new molest mechanic updates>No new birthdays>No sensei mechanic updates>No new battlesuits>Replacing ELFs with models that should've been battlesuits in the first placeI love how newfags keep defending this game because it's tailor-made for them now, while the game keeps bleeding players because the rate of newcomers arriving are lesser than the rate of veterans leaving for greener pastures. If you're not a newfag, keep fueling the sunk-cost. Surely Mihoyo will finally listen to you now after getting railroaded for years since pt 1 ended.
>>560722517OH SHIT, SHE'S GONNA SEELE!!!
>>560722517
>>560718643Nice! I'm still missing one piece.
>560722574>not posting the truthful version>implying anyone wanted co-op at all>complaints about old features deliberately not updated for the vast majority of part 1's existence>continuing to post incorrect or misblamed statementsTourist-kun....
>>560723029>power-up dresses are so for meGiven how many post-Elysia Moon Herrscher Battlesuits were very very Elysia design, that is a big red flag about the identity of the pink.
Ok Mihoyoshill you can stop pretending now. Maybe fix the game instead of posting here.
>>560723029Literally me.
>>560723195The biggest red flag is how the tourist not just refuses to cast blame on part 1 changes and blame part 2 for them, he never has the balls to criticize anything Elysia related no matter how much they set up then or future problems. Even the illustration portrays the ER era as where everything goes wrong and the start of the bad being a pink girl coming in yet he can't openly criticize Elysia. Doubtlessly, he's a twitterfag relying on hearsay.
>>560723195Opposing Part 2 is correlated being an ERfag who wants Coralie censored.
560722574Why would you change the meme to specify a certain game? The point of the meme is that it applies to all forms of media.
>>560723332DuhHe's a cuckshitlysia tranny and also xarisas friend. So you all can stop biting his pathetic bait.
>>560723283
>>560723332>>560723529>opposing part 2>doesn't play the game>somehow doesn't know coralie's design is very in line with part 1 designs like the vodka twinsThese tourists aren't giving their best effort. Dean Domino was right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMsDuS3kDpo
>>560723236Remember when you tried so hard with xarisa to ruin Eden bday thread and the entire hug collaborate in sniping shitlysia's thread with the GOAT Part 2 and then sniped it again? Good times!
>>560723863They can't do any better because they don't play. They don't know characters besides overly advertised ones like Elysia. They retroactively assume things of characters based on later selves like assuming HI3 Mei based on Shogun and Acheron. Otherwise, they would've known part 1 deliberately got rid of the touching very early and would've never cited anything suggesting the feature would've been applicable to Aponia.
Always the elysiafags crying about this game IstGGood thing she lost to Kiana like a piss bitch and we don't get to see that turd too much again now that ampho shilling is over.
what does the optimize button do
One time I had a vision of a Senti Essex.
Oh so we're conveniently gonna forget that they marketed part 2 for people who don't want to play part 1? Because I was there when they tried to throw all of you over under the bus.>>560723863Don't worry I'll get more Coralies when Promilia comes out. Thank God Manjuu doesn't bend to tourism and pussyfoot unlike the faggots running nu-mihomo now.
>>560724635okay kuroshillyou're running out of bullshit to spew btw
>>560724683>KuroshillAs if I'd play a game with playable men in it.
Oh and I almost forgot>no new character songs>meanwhile, GGZ got a new one recentlyYou guys really are fucking raped.
>>560724809>playable men>adamThanks for admitting you don't play hi3
>>560725004Can you play Adam in the abyss? Can you roll for him? Yeah I don't think so. Stop pretending you pedantic faggot
>>560722517"Smugeele".
Jobbing to Mei!
>>560725114You don't even play the game retard so why would you care about abyss or banners.
>>560725518>You don't even play the gameBecause I'm not a sunk-cost loser while your newfag ass got duped into playing a dying game. Part 2 was made for new Genshin niggers like you anyway so have fun I guess.
i cant trust anon who wanted me to play the game with jiggling bara furries on his opinion on men
>>560725860>not a sunk cost loser>proceed to bitch and moan 24/7 in a game thread he hatesYeahhhhhh suuuuurrreeee Take your meds mentally ill tranny
I finally got her!>>560725732No Seele!Today's the day!
uh oh Stinkrin
>>560518047
>>560732031Seele's favourite pillows!
>>560727468well done!
>>560628139Second day in a row now for me. I click the table but it just brings me to the "Turn over Gift Box" thing which I've done each day.
>>560732031Ai slop
>>560737425Yourr life is AI slop
HNA will be the next Shart Trail.No yuri, no real characters, no story, slop for the retarded masses.They call it "Honkai", but it's actually Genshit.
>>560736580There should be a crystal icon on top of the table.
*zzzzzzzzzz* TWO WEEKS *zzzzzzzzzzzz*
>>560738089Hit a nerve yuri tranny?
I look like this and I do this
>See /hig get more posts than usual>Think some news dropped>It's actually shitposting straight out of the open world toilets
>>560748523Don't use Bronya onee chan to shitpost
>>560748853I've never seen someone mention Azur Promelia outside of jeet shitposting
https://exhentai.org/g/3843624/8ffb65373c/https://exhentai.org/g/3843624/8ffb65373c/https://exhentai.org/g/3843624/8ffb65373c/
>>560749971Cute and canon
aaaaaaaaaa time for Badum tomorrow!
1 More day until Kiannars. Should I roll for this character (picrel) on the returnee fund?
>>560758289Isn't she kinda useless? Roll only if you like her.
>>560758289she's gonna be even less useful now with luna dk
>>560758289She's the cutest Teriri, but if YY is actually Lightning, I fear that Part2eele will soon hard replace her.
>>560724809What's this from?
>>560758289No, her only Niche is afk ER clears
Seele!And "Seele"!And Buronya onee-chan!
>they marketed part 2 for people who don't want to play part 1Exactly. Elysian Realm is unlike Part 1 and they tried aiming for them. The removal of Elysia correlated with an increase in story quality. This is why we must continue to remove all traces of Elysia. She doesn't just kill HI3, she killed HSR too.
Did someone say hetshit?
rember the truth
>>560772704This is what ERfags fear.
>mfw the delicious tears of genshit elysiafags raging over hi3 killing off het couples, removing male dreamseeker and adding more yuri
This is what we need. Besides removal of Elysia.
>>560774949>removing male dreamseekerI wish it never exist to begin with
>>560774949There has never been a male Dreamseeker. Ajita spoke the truth. Yuri is literally the architecture on which the game stands. Always and forever.
Discuss molestation
Reminder that no Himeko has found a man.
Theresa is like 60 and still single
Our foundation is Evangelion, not Madoka.
stop playing the card game i need to do hide n dreamseek
DS and Captainverse Captain are both better than Traveler and TB. Why does Mihoyo insist on giving less effort to other MCs?
Where are these crystals I'm supposed to loot?
>>560788039Oh, you haven't clicked that Dinner's Ready yet.
>>560788039you have to click it in a certain angle or something i know i missed days too
>>560787648Those other games are slop for the dumb masses. What do you expect? HNA will be more of the same shit.
Fittingly enough, Seele is the queen of hide&seek!
>>560788324This was it, thanks. Only loss 14 crystals I guess?
>>560795415she's so pretty
Next year Bronya's weapon
>>560802534yes
>>560802534Something most HI3 "fans" on Twitter and comparable sites never downloaded nor played.
CN hide and seek had 8 players we only have 4 how boring
>>560806445I was hider twice, stayed in the same spot both times, and nobody found me. I bet 8 would be too difficult to catch them all for this playerbase.
POV: Soujaku
>mfw remembering that time coralie mentioned someone being burnedIs burning dumb people still a thing in the future?
Reminder that a lack of censorship is associated with failure. Bleach failed to censor.
I need chocolate.
What would Nahralab taste like?
I have a bad feeling that the Cryo Archon won't be Bronya but Elysia, and they'll reuse their previous plans for next year's Bronya.
>next year chink battlesuit character>Himeko
>>560791625If you got 2 mails 5 crystal mails then yes.
>Heiðrún>Norse Goat with udders that spew mead>next year>Himeko Chinese New Year battlesuit where her nipples drown the enemy in alcohol
>>560812741EoS indicator.
>>560814508Sex Pufferfish
Reminder she was leaked
Mei needed to do something like this as part of WS.
>>560820236No.
>>560820308
hide your beggars
Hugeele!
Reminder of that time Dudu imagined Rita as Kebin.
>>560777454This is just sad. Ig her dying was a source of peace for her.
The removal of GGZ content was a mistake. This is what led to Elysia. This is what led to retconning Will of Honkai. They were desperate to remove themselves from GGZ so much that GGZ characters like Mei and Bronya suffered.
>>560820793the selmas are coming
>>560824359Everyone and everything suffered because of trashlysia
Poor guy. He spent the entire prep phase aligning that chair just right.>>560824359Maybe or maybe not, but GGZ didn't have Seele in it so whatever.
>>560824540>GGZ didn't have SeeleThat's because normal GGZ Seele is so horny there's very little space for others.
>>560824669
Reminder that GGZ Seele was tempted in the 4komas.
Seele instantly caved in once horny details were mentioned.
Ajita has won...
How are we coping part 2 fags?
>>560820221What they needed to do was not make the HoIce and HoStars not completely retardedly stupid evil so that when Mei put them down, there was at least some moral ambiguity so that we could actually question Mei and her actions. Instead WS went from being terrorists to saving the world and working with others, conviently just for the stretch of time when Mei was with them.Hoyo 100% pussied out with Mei, and her character and arcs suffer massively for it, she's easily one of the most poorly written part 1 characters, easily the worst of the "main" girls. Dudu gets around this by being completely irrelevant.
It is time to pull my Badum!
>>560833340Wtf put your pants back on
>>560833340OH TODAY'S THE DAY I'M CUMMING BELOVED KIANNERS AAAAAAGAGGGHHHH
4th Carnival Supply without luckshitting anything. Fucking stupid Cabbage resetting the pity.
>>560833942I didn't get anything either :"(
Why is Bronya so big? Did she recreate her body to become bon-kyu-bon? Or did Seele force her?
Property
>>560835183Seeleless GGZ Bronya is flat, so yes. Seele knew what she was doing.
What should I get I alraedy own the battle suit for Sonque and Lantern? There's the astral ops Songque but it seems like a waste.
>>560836123might as well get opque if you don't want the elfs since lamp and que ranks suck
She looks so good but she's like $300. You could buy a Mei and Kiana figure for a similar price.
>pity 84>still one free 10 pullYou know what that means, right? I pulled her in the first free 10 pull.Her weapon almost went down to hard pity, but this was needed to get my Shoujaku. I now have Kianners + a workable team and all I need is enough resorces to upgrade all the stigmata as well.
nyooo this is terrible I did 10 pulls on kianner and overpulled by 9.. I'm 40 pulls away from guaranteeing her weapon but there's only 5 days left. will it rerun in 2 weeks? also what's soft pity for weapon if there is one?
>>560836952Guarantee stays within this Carnival Supply set. It resets for future versions of Carnival Supply.
>>560837417Her weapon banner goes away soon, will it return in a few weeks? This is my first carnival supply.
>>560837536yup, it will return in two weeks
>>560836818Congratulations bro!!!!I'm happy for you!!!
>>560836818Niceele!
Another nail in the coffin for part 2 fags.
uh oh anti p2 schizo mental breakdown~
what does Rice Cake taste like
>>560838558You know what's else in the coffin?
>>560838845Kiana. Do NOT commit Kianabilism!!!!
>>560838860spooky...
>>560838860Stay thereeele
Looks like this nigger got lost
I regret rolling ba dum Kiannar. She kind of sucks.
>>560841781why are they gay
>>560842827U suck ass
This is a true artist's work. I start to see why Bita loves her.It was awful to play with Kevin, though and wrong.
Seele's cute cock!
seelefags so annoying
finally, turns out this anon is right >>560788672
seelefags so relaxing
HOLY SHIT
I love Kiana Kaslana
And Seele!
>>560850718Okay, the last 2 free 10 pulls I did also gave me the S ranks I aimed for (Badum and Bita).Is the drop rate of S ranks somehow dramatically increased for this?
She's finally home
>>560850718Gosh I'm so jealous dude. But like congratulations!!!!
>>560852851No, but there might be another level of pity that kicks in early if you hit pity too many times in a row on the banner. If thats the case you just used up all your (((luck))), but at least it wasn't dorm supply.
>>560858534The last dorm supply I pulled also gave me a free Sushi, so it's first 10 pulls on 2 Carnival supplies and Dorm supply, 3x first 10 pull in total.However, I full pitied Xentinel's weapon and Badum's went down to 6 pity.So... no idea.
>>560832429>HoIce and HoStars not completely retardedly stupid evil>muh Ana fought to try not to be controlled and couldn't take itWhat a flop this Elysia is, the one that gave a rotten retcon and it was still poorly done.
>>560862032>Mindless vessels of Honkai>HIMEKO tried talking before dead>everything to do with RIN and past era HoC being a parallel to Sirin being evil because of mistreatment before this retcon
>>560863689Fuck off groomed bitch
Explain redheads and grooming
I probably won't be able to get Mei's sword, what is the best cope for her?
>mfw Welt Joyce, the original Elysia, is forgotten
She's coming
>>560867274there is no cope anymore
>>560869613Nope
>>560869663Stupid cabbage made me hit pity three times I'm so fucked
>>560872453You too!
Reminder that Bronya randomly stops existing whenever
>>560876021Cowtits tax
>>560876021She's in good hands.
>>560854540You're missing a Kiannar
>>560878816No I don't
>>560879491You're missing 2 Kiannars
oh no, hes retarded
>>560879919I'll be honest I had no idea there were trial characters
>>560879990the elites don't want you to know this, but the trial character cards are free. I have 458 trial characters
Chuuni has won.
I haven't done any story mode since the end of part 1. Are there a lot of crystals to be gotten from doing story? Do you think I can get 20 pulls?
>>560879491neko charming
My goodness, Moon was fucking awful and everything about why it sucked is because of PE shit.
>>560882561New suit soon
>>560883963It's not because of PEIt's because of Elysia
She will return.
Give
Next collab
>>560833942Lol lmaoFree 10 rolls, now I need to get the weapon and I have no crystals
>mfw I have Kiana the first time>but didn't get the weapon the first time
>>560876021Buronya onee-chan, so easily forgotten...
Mei sexSex with Mei
Mei's knees. To my face.
>>560895290>>560895861calm down tuna
What Theresa's body stocking smells like?
two members of the same sex can't have sex
Would this team work?
>>560898648Meis leadership skill gets 3/3 so yeah but don't use coralie
>>560898648Yes, F2P Doggo is pretty flexible>>560897497Explain this, then
>>560898959I have literally nothing else, HoFi goes with the trio as my second team on the arena>>560898998Thanks
what a pathetic showing.
>>560898648Yeah the Dog is good enough to activate the buffs but she doesn't have the Heavenly Shift tag to fully participate in the team's gimmick(special QTEs).
>yuritroonscringe
>yuriYes
>>560898648i would say so
we need more yuri
Yuri and sex = unprofitableCensorship = profitablePlayers love censorship, that is why the most profitable chapters have more censorship.
Mihoyo killed this.
duduschizo is trying to snipe the next op
Hiii~
What does "Seele" enjoy best in life?
>>560835183>>560835638I find something very appealing about the smallest/ shortest character outgrowing everyone
the boobnya...
Bronya should be tall but still flat. Seele has to pay for her crimes.
Bronya should release a game instead of laundering money.
>>560905889Seele.And "cake"!
>>560909760haha as if.
>>560905889Senti. Lesbian sex with Senti.
ah yes, the main characters
>>560905889Seele!
>>560905889Seele, her other friends too. At the end of the day, it's more accurate to say that she simply enjoys feeling like she has a place, a reason to exist.
Do I need to complete any of these before starting Mei's event this patch?
>>560919969Agent Rosette event mentioned directly
>>560919969Only Rita
Where is Honkai Impact 4th?
>>560919969Do you mean among those 4 or everything in there? There are older ones that you need like Countdown to Sweet Dreams and Ongoing Make A WIsh Fest. I don't remember if Yunchin is required for Rosette or Mei's Event but it is a story before those two.
>>560924791Only those four, but thanks for info!
>>560925747>>560925747>>560925747Bread!