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Peach
Momo…
>>560661452fofo... nyo...
>>560663382
Using my wifes thighs like a onahole!
Love your Pela
Is sparxie's e1 or s1 better for sw teams
Momo...>>560663229Good image
CASSIEWIFEEEEE
Total Madam Herta love
>>560662741>no YunliVery gay
Who won? Who lost?
What were you saying about Yao?
>>560663572Your new fanart?
>>560663605s1 > e1 > e1
>nobody cares about welt, he doesnt even get a showcase
>no Welt showcaseDoes he do nothing??
Not rolling for censored slop, Mihoyo needs to learn their lesson that this shit is not okay. I hope Yae flops.
>>560663717>>560663716very organic
Herta: Star Rail
>>560663706congratulations on your new brick
>>560663710
>>560663716>>560663717POTENTIAL MAN
>>560663716>>560663717weltcord not coordinating very well
We are flopping this anniversary btwCastorice made 100mThis won't make more than 60M
>>560663706Don't mind the haters the extra elation skill is worth it
We have to pull for our new girlfriend, Evanescia
Cerydra finally got a viable female teammate
>>560663706>actually pulled for YaoKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKK
>Leakers still haven't replaced Yao with SparkleThis is gonna be another beta where people don't try shit out except the cookie cutter team
Welt's greatest feat being potentially fighting Zephyro will never not be funny
Animations aside is Evanescia STRONG? Like really strong?
Bad character buffs? Not a problem in fgo btw
>>560663939Mydeimos released in 3.1
Castorice skin when?
LEAVE SW AND EVANESCIA TO US
>>560664019Cute momo!
>>560663992>they haven't seen the AA footage>they don't see the problemuh oh
Daniela...
Am I good with SW999, Sporkle E1, Sporxie and Fofo?
>no rem exodia>elation is dysfunctional garbageGuess this is the only hope to unbrick my account
My wife is so cute
>Remembrance Exodia not getting 2000 points AS clears anymoreIt's so over
>>560664127good enough
>>560664118Yeah the fucking problem is Yao doing nothing while SW has her ult up
>>560664069with same investment she scored better than SW against the AA boss, though SW could catch up if using Huohuo's E1 instead of S1
>>560664069She's mid as fuck, SW is the metabait only roll Eva if you are brown.
>>560663716>>560663717His kit doesn't need a showcase to understand. Generalist nihility. His debuffs have slightly better amp to e0 tribbie and his e6 has slightly better than e1 tribbie.But he's not sp positive and his debuffs won't have 100% uptime since they last 2 turns but his ult is 150 energy. Can't DDD but can hold pearls and whatever premium nihility cones you have. His DPS should be approximate or better than feixiao if I'm parsing his numbers correctly so as main dps he's a brick. Right now no reason to use him unless you are still coping with tingyun/pela on your knight 3 team or something.
>>560664069Her team with reasonable investment (mostly E1S1s) can 0 cycle the next AA which is good enough
The only thing Fofo is actually missing is a longer ATK buff other than that she's perfect
I fucking hate TB playing invisible drums with lightsaber light sticks. She loses more and more aura the longer the game goes on...
when is Osama bin landau getting his nova flare?
>>560664149why is your wife scaramouche
>>560663897Need a lift?
>>560664126Daniels new rebirth...
>>560663573the fuck happened to him?
>>560664079Sis, your Kuro buff?
>>560664143>E0S0 character from 2 versions ago is your only hope
I love reading korean genderbender webnovels
Bronya SEEEEEEX!
>>560664241I would swap out every single change she got for 10% more energy on her ult
When they buff SW999, I don't want to see any of you fags pull for her. Stick to your guns.
>>560664143Are you implying your E0S0 Firefly is even remotely as good as elation even at low investment
>>560664218That sounds pretty good for a standard brick nowadays though
>>560664329kek
I dont get why people dont like The Dahlia. I think shes great and Im glad I pulled for her.
>>560663706>needed in two teamsI kneel
>>560664464is it me or did this artist actually draw her tits too small
>>560664292fofofriend followed /hsrg/'s advice instead of beeing himselfalso I finally have some good sun and thunder pieces for huohuo/fu and the results make me very happy when seeing how it helps speed sparxie
>>560664264Not funny>>560664329Truly a fate worse than being trapped in a book
>>560664464The most mentally ill poster itt just has her rear end living rent free in his monkey brain
>>560664464Do not summon it
>>560664464She ruined the story by introducing memory shenanigans they (Shaoji) could deploy at any point to explain any retcon shit they want to implement.
Mem won.
>>560664329source?
>>560664550stop posting scaramouche and go back to gig
>>560664412but I want sparxie...
>>560664570 enough about the Jeet who has her set as xis in game avatar
>>560664612>People are less asshurt over SHITlysia ruined shitphoreus >But Dahlia and using terminus to save canon wife is too muchNice try, troonami
Did the Eva poster give up on his waifu
>>560664464>bizarre yuripag vs selfinserter shitposting [which was hilarious considering shes clearly meant to be a whore]>she has a big ass so that means shes black to one shizo
>that anon who swore Cerydra would be in the 4.x meta because of copying skills
>>560664772no he killed himself
>>560664532https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/width/1602/height/1284/page/1/
why do I have the feeling that every party here is just lying to push their own narrative?
>>560664127you will do just fine gro
>>560664824trusting /hsrg/ to be correct about anything is a gamble not worth taking
>>560664442If silver wolf is standard like the leaks said she crushes him but he's good for starting out and even better than he already is in currency wars.If you're (un)lucky enough to have e6 welt he can join a lot of teams with these stats.
>>560664218It's 120 energy cost, and Welt can use tutorial easier now, for +8 energy. Together with his talent trigger giving energy with e2 and ER you can get to 2 turn ults, as a skill gives up to 38-53 base energy. Ult gives base 10+8 (tutorial) + whatever e2 gives.76+18=94, which is 3 too little with 24.4% ER, so your e2 / talent need to proc once.. which is essentially guaranteed.
>>560664776she doesnt even have a big ass, someone posted ages ago an image of her missing the bottom half of her dress and she was kinda flat
Is it crazy to say Sparxie is not a sub dps? after watching a couple showcases she does almost the same damage as SW999
>>560664464Not going to pull a lesbian for my wife sorry not sorry
>>560664772Is there something wrong with Eva?She looks cool and her animations are great
>>560664684I will never stop posting my wife or replace her>>560664824Don't remind me, please...
>>560664865yes archivebroI'm keeping a log of my sparxie just in case anyone has any advice for relics/other adjustmentsanything you wish to add?
>>560664957her kit and support synergy sucks ass at v1 atm
Evanescence is looking bad in both drip and gameplay. Easy skip for barely legal college Himekoand Nihilux.
Every shitposter in this thread. Could. Be. ME!
>>560664994but why is your wife a man, damn tranny
At least one person here is saving for Pearl
>>560665029kill yourself
Impregnating Mem
Bros I'm a furbo in love with my chief but everytime she looks at me she is disgusted and want to kill me...
>>560665029>I'm keeping a log of my sparxie just in case anyone has any advice for relics/other adjustmentsThis game is not so complicated you need to spam the same pic asking for advice 20 times per day
Starting to feel like maybe I should just get an E2 Phainon and slowly invest him to E6 with how dogshit Elation is looking overall. The full team for both SW and Yao looks awful right now no matter what composition you use, and even the vertical isn't looking great.
>>560664957I think she’s fine it’s just we got a lot less pics of her after her leaks
>>560665218considering how fucking weird elation is I like to weigh in with people when they're trying to talk about he game
>>560664241No? her buffs are dogshit, they only made her sp positive
>>560664937Sparxie currently has the most solid kit out of the bunch.SW should hit much harder, yes. Sparxie's biggest advantage is that she "just works" (tm). Okay you kinda do want Sparkle, because SP. But you can get Sparkle for free right now, so that's hardly an issue.SW and Bunny both need a LOT more to work. And there's no real payoff. Until they buff them.
>>560663716>>560663717Yokoso, watashi no Houkai e
>>560665215TFD
>>560665263Castorice looked mid until Hyacine, too. Then she suddenly shot up the charts.
>>560665141Guilty.Will only skip if she's Elation.
>>560664994
Goooo, Hibana~!
bwos the devs are nyot gonna make the anniversary characters mid, they want to make money.
>having an archive schizo melty over niggers posting and talking about buildsEven when this general isn't inundated with salesfaggotry and erptroons, you niggers will take issue with anything and everything, even if it's just on topic game discussion What a clown show of a gacha general
>>560664952And yet you rolled ruan mei curious
>>560665341>Sparxie is the least bricked (currently)>Sparxie wants Sparkle, who is freeI'm noticing.
>>560665335They made her really SP positive and doubled her healing, what more do you want?
>>560665476Remember that Rice was doomposted in her beta
>>560665531The Herta's trailer came after RM's release, just like Black Swan and the dance video.
>>560665453Honestly that animation is super smooth. I like it, but not enough to roll her
>>560665476You say that but I genuinely don't think they care about money.If they cared about money they wouldn't release weak characters as frequently as they do now.
Who didn't win? Who didn't lodeN
>>560665621>ml character was harshly criticized in betaNo way
>>560665664Name a weak character released since 3.2.
...guys when are we going to get our new season opening? I can understand if they skip it in the first episode or so but I kinda miss it...
>>560665476I do expect buffs for 4.2 units, but they can't fix Yaoguang now.
>>560665141Im sure grok is saving for her
>>560665479it's not that big of a dealif anything they should just post their build less since clearly nobody is responding or trying to give any help in fucking /hsrg/ of all places
>>560665742I can cipher saber jingliu novaflare
>>560665383But we knew Hyacine was coming, right now the only possible girls left are Pearl and Nihilux, only Pearl is a sustain and Nihilux is not coming until the end of the region
>>560665742Yao
>>560665742Cipher, Cerydra, Saber, Yaoguang
>>560665831>jingliu novaflare
Had a really weird dream, apparently I went out to dinner with Herta. Specifically Madam Herta and a Herta doll. They were sitting in a booth, and there was a pillow in between them, the doll was sitting pretty far away from the real Herta. Anyways, I don't remember much but Herta insisted on measuring my penis TWICE(the doll Herta). There was a third girl there too, sitting on the opposite side of the booth where I would sit too, but I don't remember who it was. Madam Herta talked about drinking and I guess it'd hurt her stomach, she mentioned something about orange poop. And I told her poop can't be orange. And that's all I remember
>>560665831Slandering Cipher is not ok
>>560665610>Luocha team letting random ally get oneshot.webmI think people wanted her to actually keep you alive. But if she gets added to the shop, e2 is right there. It.. uh.. should be good enough.
Castorice should get a novaflare that fixes her uggo face
>Eva turns out to be better than SW when EMC ins't dragging her downhow is this place wrong about everything?
>>560665742brickliu and SLOBber
>>560665953Scientifically poop can indeed be orange
>>560666015She's getting one but it costs $20
>>560666018Eva is only better because people insist on putting Yao with SW
what happened to sw having two splash arts?
>>560664298E0S0 Firefly performs great with Dahlia + Fug and she's getting another buff in 4.2. He's right.
With the new meta developing how bad is Phainon now? I have him E0S1 with Cerydra E0S0 now and I want his E2 but is it not worth it anymore?
>>560666018>ins'tDude.
>>560665906>CerydraThis. Her ult should do more damage especially when she needs 4k+ attack
>>560665610dmg mitigation?more energy for allies?atleast make her cycle her ult faster?SP positive is irrelevant when the best way to play her has been skill spam with Shared Feeling for a good while now and her healing was already good eough, what she has an issue with is making the team survive long enough to get healed
>>560665663>the two mushrooms do literally nothing but sway side to side
sorry but i dont care about shitshit
>>560666197new planet gweilo that means new gimmicks
>>560665989Oneshots are not a real problem
>>560666197He'll clear everything with E2S for the next year
>>560664464It's just the one schizo spamming the thread, anon
L-la-la-lava!Ch-ch-ch-chicken!Gui's Lava Chicken, yeah, it's tasty as hellOoh, Kafkacita, now you're ringing the bellCrispy and juicy, now you're having a snackOoh, super spicy, it's a lava attack!
>>560666276The mushrooms are really cute, yes
[sad news] shitshit, despite her novaflare has flopped again
>>560665753Yao is actually pretty good though? For both chars even. For SW it means an immediate +40 on her ult stats (or +60 with e1, providing instant SW ult), while for bunny her ult is also 20+x energy and damage stacks, twice with e1, repeating once more when the buff times out (2 turns or 3 turns for Yao herself).Like say you use Yao, EMC and Eva, and have Yao e1, that's 80 base energy right there (and banger stacks).Completely aside of her speed, what that means for Aha aka banger stacks and so on.
>>560665610Her skill being aoe, emergency heal, better healing numbers, less ult downtime nad maybe a little more energy from her ultHer healing is trash unless you get E1 and her buffs expire really fast because all her teammeates are way faster than her which are her biggest problem and they did nothing to fix them
>>560665953Shay…
>T2? I'd like to be one too...
>>560666326
>>560663382You people expect me to believe this Down syndrome hikkikomori is going to… fix… Elation?
>>560663992>he needs a "leaker" to badly show him anything>he doesn't have access to test and can't just try it themselvesyao guang is being used because she's better. the only reason to use hanabi instead would be if you're doubling up and have yao guang in another team.sorry not sorry.
Bronya love
Mywife love!
>>560665476I feel like this is the only place doomposting the anni unit. The videos on YouTube are all saying how broken she is...
>>560666452How exactly is this Fofo's fault? Any other abundance couldn't have saved them
>>560666276Idk the light circles and the swaying mushrooms just all work for me…
>>560665742SaberCerydra
>elation is supposed to have two different teams with two different DPS headliners (3 if you want to use brickle 2 as main DPS)>Apart from hoyo being Jewish this was also in response to people bitching remembrance being "too restrictive" by forcing people to roll characters they don't like such as castorice and/or cyrene or dahlia and fugue for break >Elation was supposed to fix this by having two teams to reduce the chances of you having to roll characters you don't like>Both teams are shaping to just share most of not all of the supports for it even if some are clear placeholders???Why does this entire path sound and feel heavily mishandled
>>560666587Bailu and Hyacine would tank it low diff
Was Welt the only one with a good NF? I only see people complaining about the rest
>>560666452skill issue
Ehrmmm.... Seele leaks...?
>>560666452>>560666587Interesting you pivoted to "another Abundance wouldn't save them" to dodge that Hyacine would.Dan 3 would've as well of course.Luocha actually would have too with Yunli or Clara.
>>560666397everyone's problem is yao on SW's team is that it isn't enough for brick wolf 999near-instant SW999 God Mode is nice, but afterwards she sits around doing nothing but pumping out 20/40 aha instances that can barely tickle that team's shill AA boss on normalshe simply doesn't provide enough bonuses to overall damage for her unique benefits to matter (as of right now)
uh oh
>>560666731Welt's isn't even good, he's still worse than normal SW even at E6
>>560666731Firefly is strong and got what she neededWelt from unusable brick to goodThe rest just got generic buffs, nothing impressive that fundamentally makes them gods of the game
>>560666587Bailu and Luocha would’ve saved that run
>>560666624Adding new paths like Remembrance and Elation already was a mistake when all the gameplay archetypes like carry, support, dps etc was already covered by the original 5 gameplay paths.
>>560666080Why would she bring that up at dinner though?
>>560666731pretty much all the units are undertuned besides welt and eva
>>560666563>jewtuberskek
>>560666731>Firefly gets her SB damage trace tripled>breaking extends enhanced state up to 30% duration>E2 no longer has a CDCalling Firefly's a bad NF is an insane take when she didn't even need one
Why is it ok that the ult from main pushes is already longer animationwise than most other characters whole kit?
>>560666731FF is also decent but she was already strong.
>>560666018You'd think people would learn at some point not to jump onto the first narrative train that comes along but I guess not
>>560666587Hyacine can. Any good shielder can easily. But regardless, you don't need this kinda extreme case. Fofo just sucks dick at her intended role and I say this all the time: If you can Fofo without issues, consider maybe doing sustainless. Chances are it's not as hard as you think.A sustain is only needed if you NEED the sustain.
>>560664464Not rolling for your raging dyke sorry>Im glad I pulled for her.And I'm glad she crippled the game with her flop
>>560666852Desu all seele needed with MV updates and retooling how resurgence works. She's now a respectable, semi modern DPS who still has her gimmick intact
>>560665906>>560666603My wife never asked to be weak, it's not really her fault
HSR stands for Honkai Support Rail, not Honkai Sub-DPS Rail.
>>560666624>>elation is supposed to have two different teams with two different DPS>supposed toAccording to what? What do you know about Mihoyo’s plans aside from SEAniggers speculating in Telegram rooms?
>>560665953interesting topics
>still no NF seele or welt showcases>plenty of NF firefly showcasesNooooooticing
Aglaea my goat
>>560666731>Retards saying firefly decentFirefly buff is useless and does nothing to fix her unless you roll for dahlia btw, its more of a dahlia butt than a firefly buff
>>560666998that's a debuff, quick and clean animations are superior
>>560667239the people do not care for seele
>>560666870>t. roon seething because his 1.0 bricks can’t keep up
>>560667202Im pretty sure yae and SW aren't supposed to be on the same team with each other
>>560666731firefly is fine. if you're actually using her still in 2026 you have her at e2 and the e2 buff, on top of the weakness application on side mobs AND extending the length of her suit being up is pretty solid.welt is whatever because even if it were crazy super overtuned he doesn't really have any place to actually exist or be used. the NF "showcase" has him in a comp with acheron/kot/dhpt and that's kind of uhhh. not super great in 2026.
>>560666803And another one that doesn't understand what Aha instants and banger stats do for SW. But don't worry. You don't need to understand. Just trust people that do.Every Aha instant = Certified Banger stats = Damage multiplier. It also helps SW get the stacks she needs so her enhanced basic attack deals damage to begin with.Thinking this does NOTHING means you have absolutely no idea about how shit works. The problem with SW is strictly speaking an underbaked kit that needs number changes.
I care for Seele
>>560664464I dont have fugue so pulling her would make no senseBrick team is just too expensive
>>560667346But WHY do you think that?
You still have 5+ days to roll for Yao GuangYOU NEEDHER
hp and def are pretty whatever but at least got a decent relic already
>>560667253>RMWouldn't Robin be better there
Don't come back when Eva gets buffed in v3.Don't come back when they fix her scalings.Stay on that side.
>>560667178Weak, looks like scaramouche and avatarfagged by troons here, yikes
>>560667285This is peak
>>560667239Seelefags and Weltfags are very rare, there are plenty of Fireflyfags
>>560666624>elation is supposed toElation was never supposed to do anything of the sort, that was y'all just making dumb assumptions and then dogpiling anyone who disagreed.I know. I have been telling you this whole time they share the same team.
I REGRET pulling>Robin>Saber>Tribbie>EvernightI DO NOT REGRET having>Luocha>Jingliu>Argenti>FugueI WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE for>Blade >Swannie>Sunday>Cyrene
My cute T0 wife...
We have to push back against meta retards.
>>560667362>actual yaoguang meltyactual yikes
>>560667375ah yes the prohibitively expensive cost of 3 limited characters
not to be some edgelord but can we get a cool path for trailblazer again? harmony and remembrance were silly and we have more goofy animations for elation and they don’t seem to have a good kit either to make up for it
>>560667546We fund your game lil pup
Btw, now that e2 FF doesn't have that 1 turn cooldown anymore,YOU NEED HER
>>560667440>troons>pluralPretty sure it's just Yuria
>>560667362>another yaoSCHOLAR enlightened postKeep it up king
>>560667438>censored slopYou lost fag
>>560667604Nope, everything has to be quirky meme garbage.
>>560666731Don't let people deceive you, FF buff is trash, the SB change is barely a 10% increaseHer only relevant buff was E2, the rest is literally useless, even the ult extension does nothing that helps her
>>560667429No, Ruan Mei's break efficiency buff remains while she's a borisin while Robin's ult stops. And Aglaea needs help breaking the boss, not damage.
>>560667678E0s0 dahlia helps firefly more than E2s1 fugue btw >>560667721I want her to not get buffed during the entire beta just because it would be funny
>>560667678I wish the mob she was pretending to be an assassin with in 4.0 held her down and raped her tight little foxian pussy as revenge.
>>560666731that's because there are no Weltfags to complain in hopes of him getting buffed further
*Bricks your Phainon clears*
>>560667580>3 limited charactersAnd their signatures since we're not brokefags who e0s0 here
>>560667515You have AIDS
>Team Elation>not a single one of them is funny ingame>no gags in animation eitherMore like Sensory Overload Team. Where are we headed next? This planet is boring
>>560667604Wait for nihility path
>>560663706That I want to have sex with her.>>560667438>>560667513my onahole
>don't care about SW enough to roll her ult>Yae kit currently looks like shit and something pulled out of 1.x and it's hard to have any faith in them making it good since they obviously have to push and SW and make her good>Wanting to roll Yao because she's hot but would effectively be rolling a trophy that I won't useMan, I don't think I like this path at all. Maybe they'll make himeko elation or something
Saving for Seele2, who will be the flagship unit of the Trailblaze path
>>560667935Fug doesn't really need her cone though
>>560667868?????More break bars = more turns for FF, especially now that FF has no turn reduction on e2. You need double break bars more than ever.Obviously Dahlia is still necessary important for breakless damage, but fugue is now very needed as well to make full use of e2
>have to skip Eva becase SW has a global passivesad...
>>560667935We're not memopaypigs here, the only substantial S1 in superbreak is Dahlia's, and even that's only """needed""" if your objective is 0 cycling.
FOFO YOU USELESS BITCH
>>560667927no idea why people are ignoring this fucker, the split into 2 is already a problem, further split into 4 makes it pure cancer
>>560668094Dude it's the most shit global passive ever. 1 cc resist per wave. That's it. Atleast global passive could help in fuck ups for zero cycling. If your getting CCed in a zero cycle, you already weren't gonna clear it.
>>560667996Yao will always have a place in any elation team. If you like her you can just future rail it.
>>560668092Go ahead and try fugue firefly with dahlia and then dahlia firefly without fugue and see which clear faster
>>560668183Why did that happen?
So is Yaoguang needed in SW or Bunny teams and WON't get rugpulled like Tribbie did for almost every one of her teams by Cyrene?
Reminder anyone who rolled Fugue is literally soulless because she's a retcon of a character Hoyo didn't expect people to love, slotted into exactly one niche and worthless everywhere else (also a total betrayal of Tingyun being universal).>>560667996Elation is the greatest design fuck up they could have done, but I get it. They're hoping more retards trap themselves into pulling more than smart players who will simply skip the tik tok slop.
>>560668183Should have dodge..
I'm about to drop a truth nuke on you all.Evanescia is actually fine. The only reason y'all think she's bad is because EMC is very very bad and people kept insisting that she HAD to be played with EMC for... reasons I guess.. Because the internet had a predetermined idea of what elation is and didn't want reality to change that. Of course she looks bad when you have EMC wasting an entire party team spot doing absolutely fucking nothing for anyone.But the truth is she's pretty good when you pair her with the actual elation team, Sparxie and Yao. EMC desperately needs buffs if she's going to be anything but a throwaway brick unit
>>560668183But Sundayshills will try to gaslight you that she is good
you need to roll for e1s1 yao right nyow
>>560668183skill issue
>>560667375>bare minimum monoremE0S1 CastoriceE0S1 HyacineE0S0 Cyrene (w/ Hertashop cope)E0S1 EvernightTotal cost = 7>bare minimum PhainonE0S1 PhainonE0S1 SundayE0S0 Sparkle or Bronya (Free)E0S0 DHPT (Free)Total cost = 6>bare minimum breakE0S0 Firefly (w/ Aeon)E0S0 RM (Free from exchange shop, w/ Memories)E0S0 HMC (Free, w/ DDD)E0S1 DahliaTotal cost = 4Very expensive, yes.
>>560668312If Hertaschizo accepted his Tingyun being changed, why can't you?
>>560668183How does this team deal with Sparxie eating all the skill points?
>>560668183tbdesu that's more about wave1 of 12-2 being overtuned to absolute FUCK than anything else.
>>560668242The one with foog and Dahlia
Dahlia fucking floppedDahlia rerun will flop even with her new novaflare buffs
>>560668183a better character can easily prevent that
>>560668241Hmm .. i guess I'll go and get her then. Cone is gonna have to wait for a rerun for me to bother
>>560668403Huh... That's weird, why do I smell burning garbage?
>>560667546This could be true for specifically E0 Firefly in specifically 0 cycle runs but the 100% extra superbreak multiplier probably makes up for it anyways. Still the 30% ult delay thing was a weird decision imo
>>560668529hyacine would not say this
>>560666803thie tier
>>560668446hibana always leaves you with at minimum 1 skill point, SW randomly generates skill points from her boxes and unless you direly need to heal you only need to care about yao guang and fofo using a skill point once every 3 turns.which is to say it's perfectly fine.
>>560668183Luocha would've kept her alive
>EMC is worse than sparxie for Eva AND SwSo how big will they buff him?
>>560668409>e0 ff in the big 26
>>560668409E0S0 Firefly is a not a real unit, you need her at least E2 (even devs acknowledged this by giving her E2 the only good buff)
>>560668597Hyacine is a cute and trad girl and would condemn that coalburner
>>560668425Because I have standards and Fugue is such a blatant>ah fuck people liked our 4 that we killed more than 70% of our characters? Fuck.scenario.>>560668589It is a nerf for the autistic community, but anyone calling it as solely that when it's going to crank the AV value immensely in 99.99% of players accounts is wild to me.
There is no "bare minimum" phainon team without S1 and e2. You can use bronya and tingyun if you want, but you NEED e2s1
>>560668351
>>560667438I was never going roll her, thoughbeit. I hope she does get buffed thoughever
>>560667375You fell for the bings. Break is the LEAST expensive archetype to acquire, you ONLY need Connie E0S0 to enable it. Then you have Ruan Mei for efficiency or HMC for damage and both of them are FREE. THEN you have Fug who gives Black Swan levels of both. AND THEN you have your free Gallagher for sustain who can ALSO be your main dps because nigga you have Dahlia. AND AFTER ALL THAT your ENTIRE break team uses the EXACT SAME RELICS and you ONLY need speed and break effect stats. And once you’re BORED of slopping MOC with Gallagher you can swap him for ANY honk who deals toughness of any kind OR just pull your canon wife like Dawei TOLD you to a year ago
>>560668571>>560668529hyacine raped me
>>560668681>>560668715Skill issue desu, E0S0 Firefly with Dahlia clears anything better than E0S1 Castorice ever could without being carried by Cyrene and Evernight.
>>560667546*unticks the novaflare*
>>560668351>Because the internet had a predetermined idea of what elation isHoyo told us what elation is supposed to be. Roll 4 elation characters or brick all of them.
It's actually fucking pathetic how bad EMC is as both a generalist and as a niche elation buffer.Actually PMC tier.
>>560668446>YG is SP positive>Fofo is SP positive>SW is like technically slightly SP neg/Neutral but her zone in ult makes her SP positive because of its RNG mechanics>Whenever Aha procs + Sparxie ult gives free SP for Sparxie to spendYou will actually overcap on SP frequently without Sparxie cone.
Have we run out of future planet and character leaks? These nipland characters were already hauled four years ago.Is that it it really? Are we on uncharted planets from now on?
>>560668589The E2 change means you'll ALWAYS get more turns, but the delay itself is legitimately a nerf, there's no situation where it's helpful in any way. I wonder if they did that on purpose as some sort of drawback.
>anti and pro-yaoguang players are fighting in nearly every threadis there any chance of people sidestepping this metafag war by not following a crowd?
>>560668726The only character they've ever released that's non-functional at E0 is Aglaea, everything else is only a skill issue if you can't clear with bare minimum investment for content appropriate to the character for a good year
>You HAVE to compare Foogway and Dahlia's impact to the teamUmmm nyo? I have both
>>560668928There is/was a weird point in time where PMC could equip that Burn cone, result in turbo Acheron ults.
>>560669020im going to post a google sheet with some chinese characters and a number and end the arguement for good
total sparxie victory
>>560668669Why would they? He is still the 3rd slot for eva and he will stay there until a replacement releases
>>560668312I wish I would get tied up like this
Fugue would've sold at least 2x more if she had cleavage, and exposed toes.
>>560667285prefer my e9 amd anaxa animations in actual gameplay way more than cyrene and castoriceits so tedious especially the whole ass cutscene from the first cyrene ult
>>560669168Still a crime what they did to her cleavage
>>560669020by beeing yourself like that one guy from earlier ITT
>>560668183>Novaflare will fix her!
>>560669168Fuck off with your gooner shit, go play Cuck Dust 2 or something.
>>560668312>because she's a character Hoyo didn't expect people to loveFunny how this applies to not only her. Hoyoverse doesn't fucking know what to do with accidentally popular characters it gets
>>560669002>you'll ALWAYS get more turnswhat are you going to do when they bloat HP for 4.3 again and you can't get more turns because the thougness bar is already broken
"EMC is made for yae"Whoever came up with his is trolling. You think a character that does nothing except copies a single elation skill was made for a character who has a terrible elation skill because her damage is primarily focused on ultimate?hsrg should just stop speaking confidently about shit they don't know at all. It's laughable at this point.
>>560667362>BRO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU NEED YAOsad
>>560668183People will still argue SW's global passive is as good as an emergency revive.
>>560669150Uh oh the anti-yao poster is coping again
>>560667546always amusing to me when retards who don't even know how the fuck the mechanics work are the ones talking about "0 cycle" the mostright now you need very high speed to get a 4th action on wave 2 0c (ult state ends->skill->ult->enhanced skill)with an extended ult state you would not get a regular (unenhanced) skillbut..first off the way this extension mechanic works makes it do fucking nothing in practice in 0c because you'll get 3 delay triggers on wave 1 (capping the trigger count) and when you enter wave 2 the countdown RESETS (.. while you're still unable to get any delay triggers because you already got them on wave 1)and in some mythical scenario where you somehow don't cap triggers on wave 1, the extension would just make the speed requirement to get the enhanced skill lower>but my unenhanced ebin kick for shit damage aieeeeeefucking kill urself
>SW this>Eva thatYou’re all arguing over a game that’s on a downward spiral. No banners here can even outsold Acheron or Seele at this point
>>560668839you're so lucky....
>>560668873But the team you used doesnt include hmc
do I really need fucking Sparxie for Eva too? what the fuck's the point then
>>560669020penis rolling
Its a skill issue if you can't survive with fofo btw
>e1s1 yao is giving you 77 charge points every 3 turns (at 200+ speed) while buffing both sw999 and sparxie, providing all the speed for ahah, and being sp positive>expert /hsrg/ theorycrafters will try and cope and tell you she's bad
>>560668183she needs more buffs dawei...
>>560669002>there's no situation where it's helpful in any wayWhat? How is spending more time in the mode where you do damage a bad thing?
>>560669463>You’re all arguing over a game that’s on a downward spiralTrue>but what about le salesFuck off
>>560668312>Reminder anyone who rolled Fugue is literally soulless because she's a retcon of a character Hoyo didn't expect people to loveBit of fourth wall meta here
>>560669369Then you use another character, thankfully 90% of the bosses have trash accompanying them so in practice this isn't that much of an issue.
I secretly wished for emc to be dogshit because my memo team needs rmc but didnt expect it to work sorry bros
Dahlia and Fugue better be in 4.2 I swear to god
>>560669502>expert theorycraftersanon, we SAW and OBSERVED that AA.
Elation is looking so brick, and people really compared this shit to rem members.
>>560669478HMC and RM are interchangeable for similar results, desu
>No banners here can even outsold
>>560669609I refuse to roll for her because shes a hag chink generalat least Fu is mega cute
>>560669609Shan't roll tiktok slop, simple as.>>560669628I miss Phantylia-Tingyun. Way better character.
It's really nice of Silver Wolf to allow her bestie Hotaru be the strongest character in 4.2.
>>560669609
>>560669481sparxie is only required for sw
>>560668183Told you she is going to be garbage because she can sustain shitThey will end up lowering the damage of the enemies to shill SW which in turn would also make running sustainless even easier which means archerGOD will once again clear faster than everyone else
>>560669002Only whales believe this. At E0S0 she is ALWAYS running out of ult before replenishing, this delay is a QOL upgrade for the commonfly
>>560669687yea i need dahlia, playing break without her is miserable
fofo desperately needs damage reduction/invigoration/hp increase in her kit, on top of instant emergency healing
>>560669784No one cares about browncher, anal wormer
>>560669481I mean they've made it pretty obvious the problem is that HSRG has been telling you lies and you believed them for reasons. Yao and Sparxie are core elation. Eva and SW are the main dPS that you can choose from. They both use the same team.Eva or SW/Yao/Sparxie/SustainThere's your elation team. I hope now you all will learn.
so why cant I just roll e2 sparxie now and skip brickwolf?sparxie seems way stronger
>>560669701I've said it before and I'll say it again. Elation IS what all the doomposters pretended remembrance was.Really sucks because EMC animations look great, Sparxie is a cutie, and I'm sure more good designs will come. But they're trapped in what will easily be regarded as the worst designed path in the game.
>>560669609Not rolling for your black tier ass inspired character buddyOh and neither china did
>open a random showcase with shitshit>>
>free evaWhat are they thinking?
Saving for the true elation queen
>>560669887>Sparxie with EvaAt that point just run her as the main carry with Yao and Sparkle...
>>560669887>/hsrg/ has been telling you lies>is a poster, in /hsrg/am I supposed to suddenly believe you, anon?
>>560663706>Somehow manages to be worst than Phainon for Eva and Sparkle for SPSW
>>560669334And when a character is giga popular they run them into the ground or forget about them entirely. Hoyo shrimply has had no success with its storytelling and almost everything remotely good of theirs has been a fluke.
>>560669460>first off the way this extension mechanic works makes it do fucking nothing in practice in 0c because you'll get 3 delay triggers on wave 1ah I missed that, I assumed it'd be per wave
>>560669925>Elation IS what all the doomposters pretended remembrance was.uhh.. "get 4 characters from the shill path, enable auto and get max rewards"?
>>560668312Tingyun should've been our canon girlfriend who joined the express to be with us and take down the Destruction together. Imagine if it was Tingyun who rose up to sacrifice herself in Amphoreus instead of Cyrene. I legit might've teared up since I care about Tingyun.
>>560669986No you don't do that because Eva and Sparxie > Sparkle and Sparxie.
>the shitters that complained that they couldn't sustain with fofo in 1.x and that luocha was better are back
>>560669982that's a destruction character
>>560669502Now people already moved to the cope of "she will just get replaced anyway"
>>560669956grok is this real?
I need to worship Madam Herta's feet
>>560669956If you fall for shops this sloppy you should probably get off the internet
Can I write /hsrg/ shitposter as a skill or work history on my resume?
Are we pretending now that the red haired hag Himeko was both interesting and cool to anticipate her SP?
>>560669609madam Yao Guangs tight chink pussy...
>>560670031*notices*
>>560669956they need one for regular silver wolf
I want to play SW999, do I need Sparxie or Yao more, or both?
I shan't be rolling for the chink general no matter what you say
>>560670019I've been screaming this into the void for months at this point bwo. You didn't listen.>>560670201I'm super hyped for Himeko's power up and her badass moment. I want Welt to get one too. Maybe next planet?
>>560670110Correct, but if you only have three the team will run at like 50% efficacy. Make sure to roll the entire team!
>>560670201She was inevitably going to get a SP because she is part of the express.But I don't see anyone caring much because she is just simply unpopular.
>>560669703i think hmc is falling off since their buffs got diluted with ff nova. idk if they are comparable to e1 rm with bp cone now
>>560670251Sparxie
>>560670251Everyone and their signature cones.
>>560670201no but we're waiting to see if they can make her interesting
>remembrance was supposed to HSR's equivalent of pendulum summoning>It winds up being our equivalent of link summoning while elation is literally as much of a clusterfuck as pendulum summoning isLol
>>560670230stop being horny and make her useful please
>>560669703but thats not the problem, by adding fug you're still increasing the cost and also you cant compare hmc+rm vs fug+rm/hmc
>>560670201I like beautiful women and her story so far has been good, so yes>>560670321>she is just simply unpopular.In what universe?
>>560670251You need both. They are core elation.
i don't need her
If they want to save elation they need to change how Aha instant work, it's garbage right now and is literally dragging the whole path down.
We need another Seele to match this stinky SW
>>560670201Shut your whore mouth about Da Wei's waifu.
>>560670486this
>>560669801that makes no sense, at minimum you get 4 turns inside cc even if the av doesn’t reset, which is 40% of her energy and her skill is 60%
>>560669805fofo needs to be put down
>>560670031>supposed elation battleship hyper focused harmonyesque buffer> worse than fucking sunday a super generalist support avle to slot in nearly everywhere and sometimes even replace rmcholy fucking kek my sides
>>>>Finality Ithis implies the existence of Finality II
>westoids were hyping dahlia as the sexiest character of the year and the savior of superbreak and how she was going to break records>She ended up becoming the worst selling character of all time>She actually flopped so hard she crippled and sent the game into a coma>Same westoids are happy for dahlia's indirect nova flareYou can't make this shit upYou just know she will flop even harder during her rerun and the west liking him just reassures you of this
>>560670323With the Novaflare, probably aye, at the moment all of my sustainless Break runs across various have more or less accomplished the same cycle count with S5 DDD E6 HMC or S5 Memories E0 RM. E1 RM is most likely already pulling ahead now.
>>560670597siggress...
>>560666731Everyone says this but no one has envisioned a proper team or strategy for him yet. He still needs every stat in the game, Weighted probably requires a FUA team to get the most of, his kit is salivating for Kafka yet he supports dot marginally, and his defining jewel is locked in E6
>make character incredibly inspired by japanese culture>scrub all traces of japan from her kit due to censorship>turn her into bland chinese whore #48837874 insteadbros I'm starting to think maybe making the peoples republic of china a leader in the videogame industry wasnt such a good idea
>>560670601Finality chapters will act like epilogues which is really just a convenient way they came up to patch the plot holes or retcon stuff
>>560670031the fact the sparkle can even be compared to yao in performance is grim let alone this
>>560669609You CAN'T skip this
Eva lostMLfags lost
>>560670750And people say HI3 expies get special treatmentOh wait, SW is also a HI3 expy
>>560669801Who the fuck doesn't have E2 at this point? Come on nigga, if you care so little about her why would you even try to make her work two years later?
>>560670824lingshabros...
>>560670031What a fucking retard, EMC is literally shit, the amount of insane takes people do just to not admite they were wrong about yaoguang is crazy.
>>560670601Retcon patches will continue until morale improves
>>560670410This one? I don't even dislike her but saying she is popular is just dumb.
>>560670824>acheron being a side character in her own patchYou guys get special treatment?
>>560670824>the word "honkai" is in in her kit>she has herrscher of reason lasers in her ultyeah I'm thinking hi3 won
>>560670834Me, I'm a diverser roster enjoyer. I haven't encountered any Fire weak content that my E0S1 Firefly can't 3* to this day and with Dahlia even non Fire-weak content's getting its shit slapped.
>>560670834
>>560670201Dawei informed HSR that it MUST wank his personal waifu too before the upcoming EOS
>>560670569Hanya would say this
What if Kuchiba’s a sigger? It would explain why she chimped out during a fun festival murdering kids for no reason and why she was staying away from Sparkle
>use monorem on AA Feixiao>put on auto >first phase going well since Hyacine gets targeted>second phase happens>Castorice slow ass is the one getting autopicked now60NGCIDW
>>560671006that aint good
>>560669925No? Remembrance had at least 3 characters who were said to be needed for Castorice/Remembrance, but were kicked out. Sunday, Mydei, Tribbie, along with the fact that they released the DPS first before trying to sell you supports. Elation is just their misguided, retarded attempt at trying to rugpull the entire community into rolling for two teams. That's why they killed leaks. People have just woken up to the fact that there will be a BEST team and they don't wanna roll for subpar fill-ins until then. Hoyo realized people dont give a shit about anything other than meta viability so they implicitly brought back leaks.
>>560670887EMC is just Yao Lite for Yao skippers. They're never gonna make another broken MC, RMC was clearly a mistake.
>two core elation supports in new region opening update>region main push doesn't even work without both of themWhat did hoyo mean by this? Do they expect us to roll both sparxie and yao or be bricked?
>>560670201Himeko is literally Dawei's wife. She is the most important character in all of hoyoverse whether you like it or not.
Who will be the next anniversary main push character in 5.2?Kafka SP? Or another immigrant from Honkai Impact?
Cuckbanners killed the game.....
>>560670167Damn that's a lot of glue inside that furmur
>>560671223Yaoguang...Evanescia...
>>560671073rene makes me horny
>>560671073sadly the mecha has a bug attached to it or i would've rolled more
>>560671148You cant use sparxie or yao without the other anyways.Yes they absolutely expect you to not be in the retard camp who pulls a character just to wait 2 months to actually play them.
>>560671202They hate her, so she will probably be a 5.0 character instead
>But Dawei’s waifu is HimekoBut is she interesting? We’re 3 years in
>>560671202SW opened the door to other existing expies being anni slot so it could be Cyrene for all we know
>>560670883only expies of characte people already liked get good treatment
Man this anniversary is pretty weak.
>>560671202Here's your Knight of Beauty against Nihility, good sir.
>bro just trust hoyo>every x.0 character release has been super poggers and metaI shant, dawei.
Cyrene keep her pussy clean for Caelus
I get paid to make misinformation comments on this general specifically related to meta and team building in Honkai star rail.
>>560671202Propagation Firefly
>BTA/Eula schizo is agenda posting about yaoMINDBROKEN BY THE CHINK
>>560669874trannylation flopped. cope seethe dilate lmao
>>560671431Ack... flopgotten...
>>560671463yaebros...
truke: yao should have had 1 more team amp
anyone finds elation really weak?? and not worth the animation time??
>>560660532I forgot sorry It's some Stylish plugin
>>560671006pitiful, still I don't think you even need E2 since Dahlia's energy recharge caps after 5 attacks, which should be reasonably achievable between two waves
>>560671543yaocucks... nyo...
>>560671513I really don't want Dudu here
>>560670031But who would Yao Guang be replaced by? Pearl? Nihilux? The 4.x Cyrene?
>>560671513>Knight of Beauty>a literal pile of shitthis isnt india
>>560671131HMC was the original broken MC, then not only did they make RMC even more broken but also buffed RMC latter, the devs have shown no issues with making the MC good>but DMC and PMCthey're from launch, anyone that din't suck was due to pure luck
>>560671573I would say there's a nonzero chance that Acheron gets to be anni slot TWICE(and maybe actually get treated well this time) but she's currently on the Japanese bad shitlist so that's not happening
>>560671595the aha instants do big damagewell unless you're eva or yao
>>560671471I didn't care for the Kits but I was hoping to have leaks of a fun event just like the others anniversaries, not even that....
>>560670031why did I believe the general and pulled for Yao, I thought her ult forcing aha moment will be useful for all eleation units.
>>560671719>but she's currently on the Japanese bad shitlist so that's not happeningThat just gives them a chance to chinkify her on purpose like how they did in Honkerturd with Mei and people will definitely eat it up
>>560671581Should've been Miko
>>560663382Wasn't the only "leaker" who said Nihilux would be the 3rd main push Luna who's a certified fraud who claimed it would be physically impossible to change the main push from Yae a day before the livestream showed SW was the new push? Mortis/Anon just said all the main pushes would be female
>>560671131>RMC was clearly a mistakekek
>>560671827bwo you're responding to misinformation
>>560671128Who said the things you're suggesting? The game certainly didn't tell me that about Castorice's team.What it HAS told me is Elation's entire gimmick is aha moment, and every non-Elation character cannot contribute to the gimmick. So you will roll elation or you will brick.
>>560671702uh oh wormelty
>>560671827because you trusted hsrg (again)
>>560671827If she was able to trigger Aha Instant with present Punchline count, she'd be amazing. Alas, she's locked to 20 (or 40 if you pay up for E1).
>>560671595works on my sparxie
>>560671654i dont have dahlia, i was saving all for SPARXIESEX
>>560671706they have to make MC good because then people would be forced to spend to keep up with the game which isnt a good look. Same with all the free homos.
>>560671849Well, we eventually have to deal with the nihility region so if CN vs JP shit still exists by then she's 100% getting chink'd
>>560671984bricked
>>560670497next anni
>>560671953***E2S1
weltbros...
>>560671859I think it's too early to tell but I feel that if they don't release her with the Planarcadia batch then she will probably the last main push
>>560671932>he didnt catch the NEED posting about Sunday, Mydei, Tribbie for CastoriceNo one expected Castorice to get so many after-sales supports that also raised her team's efficiency by a billion. >What it HAS told me is Elation's entire gimmick is aha moment, and every non-Elation character cannot contribute to the gimmickYou're overreacting. It's basically a break formula but with an Elation tag slapped onto it. They did this so Elation could be easily powercrept vs Remembrance which is just crit dps with insane HP.
>>560671654it doesn’t even matter because ff unenhanced skill is 60% energy, you only need 4 attacks which you will get even if there are no waves
>>560672047i dont think so
>>560671028Her being sigga's sister and seeking revenge would be the least surprising twist ever because they look identical
>>560671028>It would explain why she chimped out during a fun festival murdering kids for no reasonDid it already get leaked that she's the serial killer? Not that it wasn't obvious because she's the only candidate
>>560672208>CipherDoes she record Elation DMG?
>>560672208cipherLORD
who would even replace Yao guang?I dont feel like we will get abother elation that us kot a healer or dps
>>560672269from what i've seen yeah, she gets a shitton of coins
>>560670834My Firefly is E1 because I still like a wide account, and her current E2 isn't even very good.
Where is BTA schizo? I need a tier check Is this white tier?
>>560672303no one will replace heryou can't replace heryou will never replace heryou will never escape heryou can not escape hernobody else can do a good job but herand thinking about anyone else aside from her is impossible so dont evn bother
>you now remember cipherfags coping she will be great with elation since she records the aha dmg
>>560664069At least the sword slash into chinese character looks cool. Her skill which is just a regular jump slash needs some work though.
>>560672176Still crazy how Castorice got that much support in a small timeframe, not even Firefly or any previous DPS got that privilege
Castorice status?
>>560668183Just save an ult for when you're low.
>>560672406Yeah, it only doubles your potential damage kek.
>>560672484Her skin will be shit
>>560672484Winning as usual
>>560671513I'd take her for Tsaritsa in Genshin.Anything but goddamned hag Bronya.
>>560672451works on my machine
>>560672586tell me something i don't know
[GOOD NEWS]nobody gives a fuck about evanescia
>>560672529There's a 1T CD between the extra turns, so in fact, no, it doesn't "potentially double it". That would require you to be able to extra turn every time, which is only possible post-Novaflare.
>>560672303There are two elation teams, neither one is complete yet. Speculating over whether she will be replaced or not this early is incredibly retarded.
>>560671934uh oh scatrandalschizomelty
>>560672443Wuwa put this second half and a manface first half btw
The despair on both SW and Sparxie fags rn is delicious now that it’s sinking in that they have to bend the knee for Yao cause EMC’s kit is so lackluster
>>560672529>it only doubles your potential damage>if youre breaking non-main side targets>that would already die to cleave>then sometimes on a few turns you get 1 free cleave on the actual main target!Conditional 25%ish is not "double"
>>560671513Please god I need her so bad
>Firefly E2 isn't even goodThese are the type of people who are causing you to skip core elation units like Yao guang, or stupidly trying to make EMC work in sparxie's place. hoo boy.
>>560672303bottleneck of sw team is actions, so someone that can aa everyone + aha, basically elation robinbottleneck of sw team is honestly amp because emc is dogshit. eva support needs to convert certified banger into a resource or multiplier since eva shits out a million cb stacks which are almost worthless
>>560672685I meant after novaflare, yes. Even without it's still a massive damage boost though.
>>560672768Still gonna be playing SW with Sparxie and Sparkle while Eva is bricked without Yao
>>560672768>and then SHE appeared...
>>560667438It's over anon. The bugs are so petty they're gimping any Japanese-adjacent characters from Benzaitengoku.Himeko will also be trash.
>>560672443White tierHope she does well
>>560672176I just don't trust NEED posting because I'm not playing honkai: stocks rail.>You're overreacting. It's basically a break formula but with an Elation tag slapped onto it. They did this so Elation could be easily powercrept vs Remembrance which is just crit dps with insane HP.But I'm not? What if I want to take Evanescia on another team without Yao Guang or Sparxie? She's completely restricted by her path.You can run superbreak Acheron and nothing stops you, but Elation characters can't be free of elation because their kits are tailored to it.
>>560672821It's genuinely pathetic that they don't even respond to people calling them out, they just keep agenda posting with their lygus avatar kek.
>>560672770you have no idea wtf you're talking about
>>560672891>they're gimping any Japanese-adjacent characters from BenzaitengokuYour evidence of this is…?
Where's the hype?
>>560672768being better than dogshit isn’t exactly an achievement that will save you from being kicked once a real elation support actually releases
>>560672821Firefly problem is that she needs dahlia to work, E2 does nothing for her aside from a little more of pathetic damage
>Sampo finally reveals his mask and he's the octopus killer
Ashveil unironically looks way stronger than evanescia right now
>>560673001You did not even bother to pretend to counter any of the listed points.
its over
>>560672821>core elation units like Yao guanglmao
>>560672927how about this one?
>>560673084isn't the octopus the vagina monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue5LQL2_AZ4
>560673000>MY agendaposting is better than THEIRS.elation seems like a miserable cesspit, remembrance could never
>>560673164yellow tier
>>560673057Yae getting kicked from being the main anni push for SW.Yae's animations being launch-tier.Yae's kit being dogshit.
Evanescia is kind of weak. Yao, Sparxie, Silver Wolf are very weak. EMC is super weak.Worms unironically won, ashveil is the best character in 4.x so far.
>>560673194Jiaoqiu is so fucking dead man. I hope his Nova makes him an actual sustain without nerfing his vulns and shit.
Why is evanescia's entire animations purple yet she is phys?Is this tied into the censorship somehow?
>>560672443Really cooked with this one.
>>560673194>welt sustainFVARK
>>560673108>character that’s days from release looks stronger than a character that isn’t coming out for another month at least and hasn’t had their kit finalized yetYou guys might not be the worst General on this board but you are by far the stupidest.
>>560673273>Worms unironically wonYou don't even know if Blade will be good
>>560673164Looks like is just in the limit to become black tierThankfully she is hiding it and was most likely a placeover since you can't even see the shape of her buttLet the gods of gacha decide her fate
>>560673129>ching 01 is being chang 01chang get your head back in the game
>>560671859Luna is usually right whenever she doesn't mix in her own retarded opinions and rants
Ehrmmmm... SWbros....?
>>560673273Since that leak got EMCs kit and Evas splash art correct, does that mean Ashveil will be with sigga SP and some new male?Because new leaks said blade is some sort of nihility abundance dps?
>>560673381>cherry blossom petalsAIEEEEEEEEEE XI GET DOWN
>>560672821I read the post and he's actually right. Her current e2 is just fine. As in the one on the live server.
>eva is actually good!!!!!!! lol. her kit will fall off by 4.3
>>560673406kek
>>560673495>remove yaoguangwhat a fucking surprise
>>560673254>Yae getting kicked from being the main anni push for SW.Your evidence for this is…?>Yae's animations being launch-tier.They’re nowhere close to being that lackluster.>Yae's kit being dogshit.It’s not dogshit, you just don’t understand it.
>>560673495>Elation>look inside>Hunt brickvery subtle John Mihoyo
>>560673194>>560673495Welt is a better sustain than Fofo
SPORX OR GUNGUS WHICH ONE IS IT IF ONLY ONEand at e0s0
>>560673381The same reason phainon summons giant flaming meteors, uses coreFLAMES, deals extra fire damage with cyrenes buff and is still physical.Because fuck you faggot.
>>560672443>>560673164Both black tier Their asses are bigger than their chests
>>560673450That's Hanabi vs Yao Guang
>>560672821>yao guangStuck that one in huh. I don't think I've ever seen a character that's so obviously replaceable before. It's kind of crazy.
>>560673194>3 cost>E6 WeltPeople like this should be executed
>>560673194The one underrated thing about welt is that sustain welt is very fucking good as long as the content isn't too difficult.Even though his amp mathematically is behind e0 tribbie level, he can delay enemies and keep your team alive. For a "healer" his amp level is really insane. Not sure if that is a consistent strategy in AA king though.
Yaes kit is literaly the most boring generic slop ever. Crazy to think they wasted one of their most popular honk expies like this.
>>560673194>E6 WeltBruh
>>560673495>Yao was the issue the whole timeLike we've all been saying
>It's not dogshit, you just don't understand it.Dawei, I don't speak in mysteries. I'm not Scooby Doo.
>>560673495now replace EMC with Yao for a better team
>>560673761>one of their most popular honk expiesWas the pink donkey even that popular?
>>560673798Well you sure do act like a dog.
>>560673381What made them shift the main push from Evanascia to Silver Wolf anyways? Japan? Hi3 expy fatigue?
>>560673495She would 0 cycle with a team of Yae/Sparxie/Yao/Welt easily...
>>560673495>>560673594>>560673781>EMC>Name hiddenopinion immediately discarded, stop screenshotting your own twitter post Nipag.
>>560673495We waiting for testers to do the same for her
Truth nuke
>>560673721>so obviously replaceable beforeBy whom?
>>560673681>e0s0brojust skip elation at that point and go vertical on your existing teams
>>560671706HMC was never broken, he was just the only enabler of superbreak, he was the superbreak team.
>>560673761>dogshit animations>boring kit>mid damagewhat was she even for
>>560672443White tier easily
>>560673883>Hi3 expy fatigue?SW is literally one of the HI3 Bronyas
So SW DOES need Yao Guai and Evanescia doesn't then?
>>560673883It can't be expy fatigue when the next push is fucking Himeko, also the replacement was yet another expy anyway
>>560673709kek
I think I have metafag fatigue
>>560673921Anyone really. Probably the Cyrene of Elation.Her kit works but you can just look at Remembrance and see how well-put together Remembrance teams are and see just how out of place Yao is. It's clear she's there just to give you a "functional" team with Sparxie but in no way will she be sticking around.
>>560674062They both need Yao.. that's the entire point of the team. Yao and Sparxie are core elation.
>twitter post screenshot>hidden name>like we've been saying>it's kind of crazyWe are being raided by either actual reddit femcels or twitter goblinas. Stop hiding your account you pussy.
>>560674062It's an improvement over EMC in both cases.SW can run without either and so can Eva.
>>560673915Zoomers are a mistake.
>>560673883>Hi3 expy fatigue?who's going to tell him
>>560673915Is saying X character is a bad character hating the game? I don't get it.It just means the character is weak. Also I don't really see criticism of people being shills very often here despite how often that happens on this website as a whole.
>>560673084>the octopus killerIt's Blade.
So, if I am going to roll wolf 999 I must have sparxie? And if I got Evanescia then Yao is mandatory?
Both Yao and EMC are shit and will be replaced by cyrene of planarcadia. But at least EMC is free and decent cope until that. Yao rollers though.. my condolences.
>>560673915the only true thing about this entire spiel is the part about gender wars. death to all shippers and waifushitters, all of you are equally bad
>>560674062>does SW need YaoguangNo, she requires Sparxie.>does Evanescia require YaoNo, but she could very easily have her elation damage buffed to want her.
>>560674062She is current BiS in both
>>560672586nu uh
>>560673681>brokecel cope KEKLMAO
>>560674248it's an npc
>>560673739>>560673762just run E0? the only thing you're losing for sustain Welt is the E6 30 res pen
>>560664329Thanos jobbed in the end btw
>>560673915Maybe hoyo should do good things and release good content instead of having 99% of their game's discussion centered around meta viabilityMeta discussion is like the bare minimum, bottom of the trash heap discussion. The fact that people talk about meta means there's literally nothing else to talk about. In a better game, people could talk about the lore or story of characters instead of just their tier number.
>>560674062>>560674251You need yao + sparxie for both teams. It's just sundaytroons trying to run an agenda.SW for the loot box opening, and Eva for just general subdps.EMC is complete and utter trash compared to Sparxie + Yao
I'm not ashamed to admit that the most exciting thing of 4.2 will be the Castorice outfit
>>560674253>Yao is shitNo she isn't
>>560673681>s0LMAO
>leaks talked about "hoyo are gonna do presales instead of post sales for elation">Yao and Sparxie come out>"Yao will definitely be replaced by a postsale"please hsrg you can't be this stupid
>>560673495>EMCIs she rarted
>>560664329Holy fucking kino.
>>560674454"nuh uh"
>>560673883>Hi3 expy fatigue??
>>560673761popularity in a dead game means literally nothing everywhere else
>>560672586The skin just need to change the color of her hair to pink and leave everything the same and I'll buy it desu
>>560674454She is by far the weakest link in both teams and doesn't bring enough to the table.
>>560673915ENTIRELY withing Hoyo's strategy and plan. Unironically
>>560674478>x.0 characters have universally been 3rd place entrants in the meta discussion>Remembrance has several units that were abandoned over timebut no this 4.0 Yao Guang character? Meta till foreverbaka
Someone has to permanently leave the regular cast to become the new Elation god. Decide who
>>560674486No bro don't you get it, the character whose only purpose is to repeat elation skill is actually good with only one elation character whose entire gimmick is she wants more elation characters.
>>560674105we all do
>>560674478saar I need the SP, I need the attack, I need the AA, Sparkle is CORE
>>560674440That's normal.
>>560674062Both Eva and SW want Yao but SW is bricked without Sparxie. SW with Sparxie+Sparkle would work. Even Eva at the moment is unironically better being hypercarried than with Yao + EMC since her Elation Skill is a small slice of her output.
>>560674478Shouldn't make Yao look so weak
>>560674478how are you this breathlessly stupid, they already said there will be aftersales too
>>560673194>3 cost>when you can't get welt for freeare people this retard?>But I got him before when I rolled for Xyeah and that costed your rolls.
>retards losing their mind over yao lack of atk buff>when even in the unlikely scenario you aren't close to overcapping the atk conversion(almost impossible with huohuo, especially E1), sparkle's buff translates to 25% elation on both sparxie and sw999>yao with her set and 200 SPD gives 34% elationand don't forget that you need a third elation to get 134 spd on aha, I could see the arguments for EMC as a cope option, but thinking sparkle is bis there is going full retard
>>560673495>Sunday GF>You don't need her.>What a coincidence.
>>560673915>SO much of the game's fanbase is just gender wars, stan warsAnd whose fault is that I wonder?
>>560674440After Firefly's skin?
>>560674440The skin will be a color change for the flowers on her dress and that's it
>>560674642it's really simple bwo. After 4.2, that team is done. There are no post sales. After 4.2, they do new team - Specifically himeko team.
>>5606744781. Don't trust leaktrannies they are same people who told you castorice needs sunday2. If both these characters are on the final team then it isn't worth rolling for at all. There is only so much a 4th character can do to raise this trio and their "goal" dpav to be a fantastic meta team is around 4x what it is currently. So either you pull and pray one of them or both gets replaced or you don't pull at all. Pulling both of them is a guaranteed loss because either they get replaced or they don't and your team just sucks.
>>560673681Sparxie's efficiency drops without sig but at least she doesn't have her ult rotation ruined by not having hers like Yao.
>>560674741sparkle is bis in sustainless
>>560674478The leak which has been 100% right so far did say that we will get aftersales that will replace yao for SW and Sparxie for Eva.
>>560674660tb is unironically the worst ae member so them
we still need an elation sustain sir
>>560674660Arlan get in here ya goof!
>>560674732>>when you can't get welt for freeHe’s in the shop, nigga.
>erm Sparxie sold bad because 2nd half banner and also no BP boost>Genshin with a 2nd half rerun only banner What went wrong with Planarcadia. There are no copes left.
>>560674660Perfect opportunity for wormday to get off the damn train
>>560674868 oh look It's more of the "they have different teams" bullshit. Objectively that is false. They run the same team.
>>560673495Why the fuck would you use EMC here? is this bitch stupid?
>>560674873Your blade sp??
>>560674872Honestly it can be anyone Astral Express doesn't have a single good character
>you need him [you dont]>you need her [you dont]cute and canon!
>yao vs sparkle>ignoring that EMC is a brick and f2ps are getting fucked live on sparxie's stream
>>560664464She has no personality beyond yurishipping with Black Swan and introduced the dream retcon bullshit.
>>560674660
>>560674873Not happening
>>560674440new AA boss doing a jumpscare for its ultimate attack is kinda interesting too
>>560674994Think people just realized if they're going to play hoyo slop, they might as well play the one that resembles a game. HSR is just gambling simulator + futures betting at this point.
rmc was honestly a mistake
who is EMC even for
excuse me, but why is sparkle causing everyone to have a massive fucking melty
>>560673164wuwa hag asses are so weirdIt's like they are big but at the same time they arent
>>560675046already confirmed nihility by reliable leaker hrtaids_shartluc
>>560674994Elation battleship isn't worth pulling, also even EMC is dogshit
>>560675073>>560675183get a job you stupid fat bitch.
rice rabu
>>560675214right now nobody. EMC is just garbage.
>>560675214He’s not FOR anyone. He IS YOU.
>>560675214Eva as a ultra cope, they need to Buff him
>>560675224WHAT'RE THOSE?!
>>560675214cope teammate for Yae (the for YOU character).
>>560675224Just Sparkle things
>>560675214If EMC remains unchanged there's probably a 3rd elation dps in the works that we don't know about
>>560675293>>560675320but there is no synergy at all with eva, its not just a numbers thing
>>560673923>>560674472>>560674856going for silver wolf without having either then got it
>>560675242saggy square butts are like the worst of both worlds
>>560675214f2keks
EMC is just a placeholder for yaolets. But it doesn't even matter since both will be replaced with upcoming BiS superwolf support.
>>560675224because having an alternative support (you) can already own is bewildering to modern rail players
>>560675214>>560675395He is cope if you skipped yao or sparxie to pair up with the other missing teammate.
>>560674994>Release a black tier ass in 3.8>The game gets crippled>Release an inspired black tier ass, two actually>Game flops even harderWho could have guessed
>>560674642>">x.0" when his post is exclusively talking about 3.0lmao
we need more SPs
>>560675273nice is very rice
>>560675395EMC is actually anti-synergistic with Eva. Eva has a weak elation skill and primarily does damage with her ultimate, but EMC's only contribution is a free elation skill. Totally out of place for each other. HSRG is just dumb and has been spreading misinformation
>>560675363they would just use Yao since EMC is Yao but much worse
>>560675503We call them alts
>>560673862>for a better teamwhat better team, that is already 0 cycling, are you gonna start counting the individual AV points now so you can have a reason to use yaoBRICK?
>>560675503>mancheron thinks she's on the teamoh nonononononono AHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>560675487yeah because that didn't happen with bs and brickle, right?
>>560673194if e6 welt is 0cost, is E1 huohuo also 0cost?
Do I need her?
>>560675575but literally who is MSC for then, only for a cope main dps sparxie?
>>560670937How are you even measuring that? I have NEVER seen anyone say that they dislike Himeko
>>560675575Eva is meant to be played three elation, EMC is just a cope yao for anyone who only has one elation mdps and one elation amper.The best combo will always be Yao + Sparxie bar none.
>>560675708Fofo isn't standard so no
>hsrg has succumbed to DOOMwe need more positive thoughts here, anything fun you guys are doing soon?
>>560675442huohuo will be replaced first by an elation sustain unless they buff her novaflare in V3(unlikely), yao will probably last until the final patches of 4.x and at that point unless the replacement is a massive buff people will just skip and save for the 5.x main push
>>560675708no idea, I don't really understand what costfags use as a metric
Good yaefternoon, Honkyae: Star Rail general.
>>560675683Sparkle and Swan have been meta dominant for 2 straight years and are still looking strong thanks to the recent buffs, cope about it.
You know Who dont want yao
>>560675214Cope Yao for SWCope (in general) for evaI think people underestimate how decent it might be for SW, out of super wolf it's basically a free shit ton of ult charge and in wolf form it's free damage as a whole
YOU NEED YAO
>>560675674>manchinron
>>560675812Hi darling~
>>560675842>worse than archer without sparklelmao
If I run SW, Sparxie and Sparkle, won't Aha be slow as shit?
>>560675805it's made up ruleshaving 2 s5 ddd is "cheaper" than a sig according to cost troons
What the fuck is the point of wormville?
>YOU NEED HER>YOU DON'T>YOU NEED HER>YOU DON'T>YOU NEED HER-I think at this point I'm going to build my teams however I wish.
>>560675757there is no point running eva in such case, just spend the rolls on e2 sparxie and run her as a hypercarry which will completely destroy eva in dpav
>ddd is 0 cost>e6 welt is 0 costKill costchesters
>>560675503>Acheron and not HertaRuined
>>>/v/735167815Your zzz target audience, sir! (and thus constance's Yao guang's and sparxie target audience)And mihoyo will still wonder why their 3 games are now flopping
What the fuck is the point of wormveil?
>Sparkle and Swan have been meta dominant for 2 straight yearsBait used to be believable
>>560675812we are actually discussing the game now for once
>>560676057e6 welt is zero cost. Your free sparkle is one cost.Cope.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT HOYO WHO THE FUCK AM I PULLING FOR
at what point did people start having meltdowns over acheron, I don't remember her causing this much seethe in 2.xwe got to the point where people even brigaded her avg cycles on prydwen out of hatred, even though she was already a brick and didn't need that to look bad
>>560675975>If I run SW, Sparxie and SparkleDon't do that. It's just stupid. Sparkle is a single target buffer and elation is literally a dual DPS team.Sparkle is used with Sparxie right now because the only elation team we have is Sparxie hypercarry.
>>560675997execute all metafagsexecute all costfagsand execute ALL agendaniggers
>>560676086only girls allowed
>>560676132Give you more time to save
play ZZZ
>>560676181Mostly because she's considered responsible for all the powercreep we got in the game ever since her release
I sharted
>>560676181you just have selective memory. or you’re senile
>implying Dahlia and Sparxie have the same target audienceHe's so retarded I can't
>>560676263oh shit they can jump now?
>>560676263Impressive
>>560676270Jingliu powercreeped everyone else before Acheron even existed
>>560676263We got a jump button though?
>>560675997Just stop taking advice from /hsrg/, it's all retards and falseflagging here.
>>560676181/hsrg/ never really liked Acheron for various reasons, it is what it isI don't bother posting her anymore because someone's going to start shit
>>560676270the powercrep started with dhil though, femcels just memory holed that because they ignored the problems when they like the characterseven at e0 he was like 50% better than all the characters released even just one patch before
>>560676331that’s genshin
welt will be what finally makes CN start counting standard units as 0.5 cost
>>560676491>>560676491>>560676491
>>560676356she didn't powercreep Dragon Dan, just because prydwen is full of pags who didn't want a male to be considered as strong as their goofy meme spooky face waifu so they placed him below out of spite
>>560676356And Dan IL too but apparently neither of them did that and ack is the main one responsible >>560676471Jingliu as well but again, people memoryholed both characters
>>560676482what
Hey kids chinese calcs are in for wolfie>Not as good as castorice>Not as good as aidsnon>Not as good as sparkle hypercarryRecommendation: Nothing to see here, pack it up and get e2 himeko for free directly.
waifus broke you
>>560676356She was better than Dan2 if both were E0, but he was better if both were E2
>>560676198Sadge, I was hoping for a mono hebe team.
>>560676430Then doublesparkle + wolf it is then, this shit is getting ridiculous when I'm just going to roll eidolons anyways
>>560676471they memory holed that because he got rugpulled by jingliu's beta before his banner was even over and had to sit though half a year of ice shilling before acheron powercrept everyone
>>560671073Back to the feeding cage whore
>>560676565it’s their roblox game mode, miliastra
>>560676331Yes bro they wasted precious dev hours adding a jump button to a game with zero exploration
>>560676558jingliu was blade-tier in beta, they buffed her massively by just boosting her numbers because chinks back then were having a massive melt down over the latest male being op and the female released after being a brick
>>560676725what
>>560676774what? i said what i said
>>560676774in the butt
>>560672250No but let’s be real, flame reaver didn’t turn out to be Hyacinthia did he
>>560676181People were mad about Acheron since the fucking yuri dance PV. Plenty of people skipped her over that alone, myself included.
>>560677896im sorry to say but you and all those other skippers are mentally ill