>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>560661087
i hate victor so fucking much
>ascendant 6>win 4 games in a row then lose 1>repeat>repeat>still ascendant 6so is it ever going to rank me up or am I actually hardstuck
#RAPEYOSHI
I think Silver is kind of weak, when are they buffing her?
NEED 2 FOR INHOUSEH1RW1H1RW1H1RW1H1RW1H1RW1
>>560707998never gonna rank you up, never gonna rank you downbecause matchmaking is there to hurt you
>>560708093insta filled with like 4 people as soon as I posted, sorry anons
People are genuinely sleeping on spirit Warden right now. Despite the fact I've consistently had lackluster early games, at max skill levels he's able to shut down any character you can possibly think of all the while ignoring most of the bullshit thrown at him.Suffice it to say I've won every game with the big lad.
>>560708223RETARD
>>560707998Have you been mvp or a key player in those 4 games?
gay sex with apollo!
>>560708234post builds and score from your 5 last games
>pulse does fuck ton of damage, with long range and also debuff your gun>best escape skill in the game>run fast as fuck despite the look>best ult in the gameHow do we stop this man
>>560708234how do you build warden? I'm looking to expand my roster past 3 but I never see him outside of 4v4
>>560708327make his head hitbox slightly larger
>>560708327I love his voice
VALVE HIRE THIS TRANNY! WE NEED THE LEAST SEXY BEACH SKINS POSSIBLE!
The most fun in this game is making people as miserable. Trashtalking, playing stupid, being passive aggressive, excessive pausing, etc. I'd go for cheats too if I didn't want to get VAC banned or scammed. Smurfing is pointless because I can get better marks when people are at ranks where they tank the game more seriously. The fact of the matter is when you separate yourself from the idea of "doing good" in a game or from the idea of winning and simply focus on sowing misery you can more easily enjoy the game as well as enjoy every game being a personal victory. I embrace my team being shit, I even prefer it. This general would unironically be healthier mentally if they learned to bully the retards it so despises "ruining" the game
>>560708187but it does rank me down if I lose two in a row>>560708281mvp more often than not yestracklock score usually puts me in the top three of the game whatever that meansI'm just confused what I have to do to finally get my shiny new badge
>>560708560retardpilled
They're gonna add 2 more heroes with auto aim in the next update. Aimcucks are gonna get btfo hard lmao.
>>560708560Yes, saar. Me too, saar.
>>560708412it’s accurate though vampires don’t like sunlight
>>560708663Great news xister!
>>560708327They raped his pulse range last update bcus of shitters like (you).
>>560708573I don't know then. This games rank system is pretty weird. I went from Phantom to Ascendant playing with my initiate friend pub stomping arcanist/ritualist lobbies.
>>560708663They can add whatever they want. Spiritfags will still let m1ggers live in their heads rent free.
>use schmovement to escape some tranny doorman on like 50 hp>chases me halfway across the map and dies for it>post ? in all chat>beeline sprints at me next fight to insta ult me>easily get out and get a 4 man lash ult>post ? in all chat>leaves immediately>3 mins later their entire team has left and we just push to windoorman players neck yourselves
>>560708831All doorcucks are like this
>>560708327>shoots the floor>uts you>shoots the floor again
>>560708897what was meant by this
am I supposed to be using jump or crouch to disengage off the ziplines for maximum movement?
Doormans ult should put both characters in separate but visibly to both obstacle courses. Winner lives, loser dies.
>>560709040crouch, never jump off a zipline
I CAN'T CONTAIN IT ANY LONGER
Sex with Venator
Good god please have mercy on me! Why must I remain here just to suffer.
My drifter build. Rate me
>>560708327>best escape skill in the gameNowhere close>wraith 2>holiday 2>viscous 2, 3, 4>sinclair or doorman if they aren't completely retarded>ivy stone or ult>yamato 4>drifter 4
>>560709376your counter items vro?
>>560709286>Three Slowing Hexes and Silence aren't enough to stop Minamina downplayers...
>>560709286>poison bullets
>ult turbo gutted>-1 stamina>alt fire costs extra ammo>alt fire reduced knockback>dash speed reduced>knives do no impact damage>knives countered by one 3200 soul item>slice and dice powerspike pushed to t3yet he is still that 1v6 gorilla dick niggai kneel to the shivster
>>560709439??? What. The defensives like spellbreaker and metal skin are there. I aint buying sissy shit like disarming hex or knockdown if that's what you mean. That's for healsluts like paige.
>>560709454They got molested in lane
>>560709454Miku has Curse too
>>560709376you should be getting spirit snatch and lifestrike way sooner. they're completely free
Magic Carpet on Mo and Krill is genuinely the most fun i've had with this game. I can only imagine the pure adrenaline someone gets when they're low and see a fat ass mole and monkey barreling towards them like a missile.
>>560708067In two weeksShe'll be removed from the roster for two weeks while she gets some training, then she'll be strong for two more weeks until she gets nerfed two weeks in a row
>>560708306I'm phoneposting in bed right now but the builds weren't very impressive. First time around I went all in on Alchemical Flask and struggled a lot in lane but I eventually settled on something like Superior Duration, Tank Buster, Boundless, Escalating Exposure, Lightning Scroll, Reverb infused Flask, Spirit Burn, Trans Cooldown, Diviner's Kevlar, and flex depending on enemies. Against a Victor keeping a Heal Bane was enough with all the silence, slow and stamina decreases, while I had to make Unstoppable and Divine Barrier against an utterly aids team that had like 3 knockdowns, a Kelvin and a Rem. My latest game I just made plated to deal with a Haze that melted through my barriers.>>560708358I always despised his gun but mystic's been fun since his changes. Since he takes a bit to get online I settled for buying Monster Rounds and Extra Regen as first items and it feels pretty comfy.
>>560709460Just trying some items out, but yes it's not very good on paradox.
>>560709404>yamato ult>stand still to get 20% resistances for 5 whole seconds>escape skill
>>560709376I know duration is for the ult but what does spirit even do for drifter?
>>560709286>be ascendant>still somehow get shit on by a mina when slowing hex and curse existfeels fantastic that this is what i have to look forward to when i get out of phantom. my teams being even worse
>>560709578You dont get the full benefit off rend so I dont think they're that mandatory any more after all the nerfs. Especially since you cant hit multiple with snatch due to the inversion of melee/spirit component of rend. I disagree
>>560709731basically nothing, that guy is retarded
>>560709376add silence wave to this
Win lane Throw game
>>560709731Longer effects on all your items and spells (even the silence on rend) so superior duration really good. Spirit increases the % hp burn of mark and rend does good scaling damage in a large AOE so it's nice. Also increases damage on cold front and toxic bullets which are also buffed by superior duration
>>560709827his rend got changed so the spirit is the far hitting part so you can nuke people with it if you build spirit
>>560709719It's an unstop
>accused of hacking for 100th timelove it
>>560708573>but it does rank me down if I lose two in a rowLucky you, im being raped and still keep going up
>>560709731rend damage and stalkers mark bleedyou want some spirit from snatch and duration maybe coldfront, getting boundless is retarded though
>>560709946What character u playing
>>560709125Ok that makes sense, also should I just never be dash jumping if I dont have a wall to jump off of? I see people always doing crazy walljump plays when theyre dashing.
>>560709835You get a free silence on rend. If I were to double up I would get focus lens but yes I forgot about that item I'll add it.
>>560709745She's not even that strong, these guys just don't know what to do. Their macro was one of the worst I've seen, I was constantly trying to make something happened but most of them were just afk farming somewhere. Just look at the objective damage, it was a passive as fuck team.
>>560709946omg youre so awesome please let me suck your cock
>>560709376If you want to be an absolute nigger get duration and decay, throw both cuckold's mark and decay and watch the poor fucker's hp drop below 50% just from that.
>>560709946>teammate calls me badass for saying niggerThank you sir
>>560704050I don't really know how big her tits are but here ya gohttps://files.catbox.moe/l0lc19.png
>>560710283Nice!
>>560710283
>Lash framemogged by Blackmore frat leader
>>560710283Fuckin NICENeeds her scars though
>>560710164https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1rv24ck/50k_souls_in_17_minutes_is_this_normal_or_cheating/this one even made a reddit post lmao
>two games in a row I play pocket into Vindicta lane >can't do anything against flight and get farmed by snipe the second vind has it>some fucking "voice trained" troon is trying to give comms and calling rem a "good boy" on mic with a match like that I feel like kms
>lane partner runs past enemy creeps and takes 80% of his health in damage >expects me to do something about it
>Nearly every other character can press 4 and instantly win a fight>Meanwhile Venator practically becomes a worse characterWhy does Yoshi hate him so much?
>>560708412>those shoulders and legsdas a man
>>560710836>HE'S ONE HE'S ONE BRO HE'S ONE
>>560709286idk this seems like what a normal losing game should look like, no one even fed except maybe 2/8 Orphie
>>560710875>In pro play constantly>Ult worth feeding him a entire wave alone to win laneYoshi loves him
>>560710461>Blackmore frat leaderWe need this as an actual hero NOW!
>>560710875His ult rapes what're you on about.
>>560710836My friend does this shit and then proceeds to start trying to heavy melee the enemy laners and it's the reason I started playing in the morning instead, I don't know why it makes me angrier when it's someone I know being a retard versus a random
>>560710645I got an insanely cracked Seven today that was like 12 lol
>>560710956What do you mean normal! my team was far worse than the opponent in macro play, these people shouldn't be ass ranked. Look at the objective damage for fucks sake, I was pushing all 3 lanes at once against an omnipresent enemy team while my team afk farmed.
>>560710875hit it when they're wallstunned or trapped and don't have an escape route
>>560710283This dude is hardstuck in arcanist and it shows.
>>560710836>>560710951>"HE'S ONE!!!">He's actually half health>My teammate is the one that's actually one>My teammate dies>Cue manbaby whining on mic
Why are all Dynamo players ultra turbo tryhard sweats
>>560711097I love this thing so much
respect to that dynamo in the inhouse
I need boxer character with ult that create 1v1 arena, you and opponent can only use melee and parry, and the more player characters(audiences) around the arena, the stronger you are
Why shouldn't I build gun Ivy.Spirit is gay.Should I build a little gun and spirit late?
2 slots for inhouseH1RW1H1RW1H1RW1
>>560711197Based Dynamo players buy utility and heals while sweats get warp stone and refresher.
>>560711097that's awesomeI wouldn't mind playing with kids assuming their the same rank as me
>>560710632Oh yeah I'm gay and retarded and forgot
>>560709470They can't stop him, his archetype is simply too powerful.
Nu troonhouses are incredibly gay and lame.
>>560711360Can an arcanist join?
>friend is a wraith main>their aim sucks>almost always below average on damage and souls, frequently bottom on bothas long as they're having fun i guess it's fine....
>>5607113601 slot
>>560711306This dude is cookin.
games should automatically get cancelled if someone leaves before 5 minutes instead of the "you can leave now message" that still counts as a loss
STOP CHASING THAT LOW HP LADY GEIST YOU RETARDED GORILLA DRIFTER
>>560711257She's pretty solid>>560711351Because her gun growth sucks really bad and takes way too much investment but it's still good for triggering on hit effects
doorman makes me so fucking mad its unreal
I think silver should wear a hat or something.
>>560710283scary how much i look like this
>>560710875>he uses ult to start a fight and not end itngmi
>>560711714i think you should wear a dress
>>560711872L O N D O NONDON
>>560710645>>some fucking "voice trained" troon is trying to give comms and calling rem a "good boy" on micthat's cute tho??
>>560711898I don't like dresses.
this is a public service announcement: if you're against a puddle punch viscous, and you don't buy rebuttal, you're griefing and you should kill yourself. thanks.
>>560711306sounds fun until everyone realizes you can just let your opponent attack first and get ez parriesmaybe they could do something with instant kill dueling pistols
>>560712296I can't even parry his puddle punches, in fact I can barely parry regular punches
>>560712350I can parry regular punches fine, but the puddle punch parry never works
>>560711018That's Apollo
When are we getting a little girl hero
I want to have sex with Lash...
why are those useless jobbers called guardians if they can't guard?why are walkers called that if they don't walk?why can the guardian be parried?why can the first walker fall to 2 waves?
>stay in backline during teamfights>team just lets diver dive and kill me anywaysWhat do you do in this situation as Graves?
>>560712487Valve aren't pedoGODs so likely never
>>560712296it doesn't even matter dude. if you miss one single parry against a puddle punch spammer you're fucked.it's one thing to parry them in lane, it's another entirely in a teamfight when you're trying to do other things and you have to be immediately fucking ready with zoomer reactions for the WUBWUB and hope that it's you he's targeting and not someone nearby and then you just stand there like a dumb FUCK parrying nothing and dieretarded hero. dumbest ability in the game. can't wait for it to get gutted. it's so obscenely huge, spammable, disruptive and hard-hitting. and it's not like parrying it even punishes the viscous, it's just a "you don't immediately die this second" button.
>>560712296I get put on EU servers with 100 ping and Viscous is basically an unparryable god
>need to ban McGinnis>also need to ban Victor>also need to ban Calico>also need to ban Viscous
>>560712660All they had to do was fix how it behaved and for some absolutely insane reason they also made it the size of a nuclear blast zone.
What the fuck do you build on drifter to make him good, or is this hero just shit tier now?
>>560712296>>560712660>parry puddle punch>don't take damage>get displaced anywayFuck this gay ability
Ain't nothin like t his here street brawl mhmm
>>560712487>>560712623Why don't you have a seat right overe there?
Well, at least I can thank Yoshi for kicking my Deadlock addiction. I've tried to play Drifter like how he worked before the patch, and it just doesn't work anymore. I've had good games that felt like shit and the games that suck, suck even harder now. The playstyle fucking blooooooows compared to just being able to pounce on almost anyone you wanted from minute ten. They've turned my hero lame and gay... It's over.
>>560712346It will be mind game about parrying light attack
>spend the whole game in jungle or leeching waves>still just barely keeping up with my teammates in soulsI don't get it bros.
>>560713175Are they constantly getting kills for 1k each?
>>560713175You're probably farming jungle too muchThe souls per HP on the jungle creeps is way worse than on the troopers, to the point where doing a camp if you can't clear it in only a couple seconds has negative value
Girls exchanging saliva with other girls
Do you guys have extra competitive on?
>>560713395>clear it in only a couple secondsQuickest way to get to that point?
>>560712350Press parry as soon as you hear the puddle punch. Parry window is longer than it takes for the punch to come in so it's impossible to miss apart from being too late.
>base getting raided from both sides>drifter is somewhere on the opposite side of the maphe lives up to the name
>kelvin feeds abrams two kills>gets mad in chat, comes mid, feeds us a kill, gets madder, ragequits>venator and paradox feed us kills, also quit>everyone else quits shortly after, game lasted less than 12 minutesat that point it really should just automatically end, that was like 2/3 minutes pushing to a completely empty archmother for a meaningless win
>>560713759It just depends on your character, and obviously everyone gets faster at clearing camps as the match goes onMy general approach, which seems to work for helping me catch up with my team, is basically>focus on creep waves>do sinner's when they pop up near me>do boxes/any camps I can clear in a few seconds while killing time for the next creep wave to get close enoughPaying attention to the map is important. If a lot of enemies are missing I'll be more cautious and let the enemy creep wave walk down the lane to me since time spent dead is time spent not farmingCamp clear just depends on the character. Silver should never even try doing T3s, while Seven can start clearing them out sometime in the midgame. The general rule is characters with AOE abilities can clear camps faster
>>560711360gotta go ggs
capacitor on paradox?
>>560711443There's people from emissary all the way to eternusH1RW1H1RW11 slot open
I'm gonna be really sad when I get to the elo where I can't consistently 5man lash ult the entire enemy team every time they push into base. Until then, glory be to pisslow.
>>560709376I love spirit drifter so much, its so fun to play
I don't understand how to be useful as celeste. none of her shit does any damage. her 1 and 3 are so weak.
It's strange that I haven't seen a gay talon in at least 20+ games now despite him being really strong, powercreep is nasty.
Ive been happier since I stopped playing
>>560714412gun talon is about as boring as it gets. you press 2 and just plink plink plink.
>>560714238Where stream?
>>560714461why gun when bird
>>560714169>feeds kills>changes lanethis is so irritating
>>560714175Also, if you're specifically needing to catch up on souls, buy monster rounds & go to whichever of your two side lanes has more tower HP and just chill there until you catch back up. If you're behind on souls you're easier to kill, so you need the towers to defend you while you farm back up
After playing one billion street brawl games and randoming on every single one of them this is my legendary item tier list. The S-tier ones can easily turn the entire game around and make you a god on the right chracter. A-tier are very good but still within the realms of reason. B-tier are very good to have, while C-tier are the ones you should rerol 90% of the times because they're honestly not impactful enough, and if you get one of them and the enemy team gets an A or S tier one you're fucked
>>560713541Just not very fond of it is all
>>560714228It's pure ass, you can easily go 3 full bursts without proccing a single time. Tesla is even worse.
>>560714718Electric slippers is god tier on vyper
>>560714412>It's strange that I haven't seen a gay talon in at least 20+ games now despite him being really strong,He is strong, but you have to know how to play him otherwise he fucking explodes trying to perform hard aggression
>>560714824Yes, that's why i said 90% of cases. Its literally only particularly good on her
Silverbros?
>very close game>manage to win teamfight, get rejuv>all 5 of us are mid, sieging base>NIGGER REM goes off farming a sidelane
>>560712487Valve are a bunch of shotafags
>>560715164Deadlock is one of the few games I've seen where a good majority of the players don't know how to play the game and somehow no one wants to address this whatsoever.
>>560712487Vindicta should have been Abigail Williams and the designated loli hero. We could have had barefoot loli ghost with a sniper rifle that's too large for her. We were this close.
>>560715304the most bewildering are people who have a bad matchup in lane and never change their playstyle. they get raped by an apollo or mina but never try to play back or buy regen. i suspect that valve may be adding bots in game or else matchmaking time may be too long
>>560715414Laning is about ego. I'm going to try to win the lane. If i don't because they're better or the matchup is bad, i'm not going to cower under my walker while requesting help like a little bitch, or buy five cope items to play defensively. If i end up feeding the game will at least end fast anyway, i'm not kneeling to anyone
>>560715304Too much shit to have to learn, you settle on the few things you do know which is usually just playing the hero
>>560715304I've seen a bepop on yellow go to farm a huge wave only to kill one or two creeps and leave to farm the camp next to it and let the wave take our shrinenow that's just way too much, what moba player ignores a fat wave of minions, and no, he wasn't letting someone solo farm it it's a fucking bepop
>>560712660>>560712350the point is that pp gooboy will usually sacrifice spirit resist for more punch damage, and by late game, a rebuttal can deal a quarter of his health in reflected damagejust had a game where it was ~35min in, i rebuttaled a punch, then he tried to bait the parry out of me (it worked), then my parry came off cooldown, i parried again with a holliday on my team that i laned with against him that also bought rebuttal, and it literally cut his health bar in half and he stopped punching the rest of the fightdon't think about yourself, think about your team as well
>>560714718Do different heroes have different decks of items? Haven't pulled half of these of items
>>560715304heroes of the storm is the same wayi think it's a moba thing where you have to understand macro, micro, and be aware of all the abilities/items/mechanics that can be used against you
>>560715897The fucked up thing is that Viscous can create a true 50/50 with puddle punch. If he throws it behind you, you HAVE to parry it on sound, even if you don't know that its actually aimed at you. So its literally just a guess, you either parry and if its bait your parry goes on CD and the next one hits you, or you don't parry and it wasn't bait and now you just ate 400 damage and are being propelled towards the enemy team
Just played with the biggest baboon team ever I gave up at about 10 minutes and turned my brain off instead of thinking about what the correct play was cause I knew for a fact my team wouldnt be doing it.My laning partner didnt buy a single healing item in lane despite it being a constant brawl with multiple kills and always being low. Then we always fought on their side of the map right before boss was up. When they got boss and rejuvenator we fought at the urn and walker despite it being 45 minutes and instantly lost the game. Despite all this retardation the kills were actually even but because they have no idea how to play the map we got stomped. I kind of feel like a retard for bothering with the moba mode when it just comes down to unfun shit like getting random pickoffs before boss on my team or the other team. that's basically all deadlock is.
>>560716314https://statlocker.gg/items/brawl
>>560711919the sound of a voice warped beyond it's natural register into a twisted imitation of a scolding woman is not "cute"
H1RW1need 3 for inhouse
>>560716765It's over...
>>560711919yeah no, fuck off to where ever you came from
I love the deadlock discord, you'll just see someone say they're tired of bad matchmaking and somehow a retard twists it into that guy saying you're overly competitive for wanting to have fun and not have bad matchmaking.
>>560716862sounds like /dlg/
>>560713541Hi epstein.
>>560716862Must be nice being a deadlock dev, you get paid 200k a year to sit on your ass, throw darts and do "balance" and "matchmaking" fixes depending on what lands.All while there's hordes of minimum wage retards defending you
>>560716862>go to competitive channel to check it out>filled with the literal head mods blogging about their boring lives as if anyone cares
>>560716959t. Jobless ass johnny.
>>560714718Boots is S tier IF you have a shit ton of spirit lifesteal, stamina, dash distance. But thats s tall order
>>560717018yoshi...
>>560716765are there still slots?
>>560717018Lash...
>>560717097It died
the worst matches aren't just the stomps but they're the stomps where two random people on your team (both playing like ass) are passive aggressively arguing with each other instead of playing the damn game and dragging everyone's mood through the gutter making the match feel even worse>me unga team bungayes but it's so much worse when they start fighting about it
Right now im seeing two retards try and say this guys is mad because he's been on a losing streak. The amount of cope these retards throw out when they can't make an argument is monumental.
this game is going to be so unfun to play when it releases officially because all the horrible hero shooter refugees won't understand wave management, itemization, counter items, and playing for the objective rather than for kills
How to fix Deadlock>Replaced Bloodletting with pic relatedFixed your game deadtards
>>560717221they can stick to street brawl/whatever other gamemode valve releases>>560717195what channel?
That match was fun, makes me miss dota 2 inhouses back in the day
>celeste>lane against yamato/abramsrealistically what could they even do? I'm never at ground level and it's too early in the game to buy debuffs so I can spam my sparkle AIDS field for free
>>560716959>Must be nice being a deadlock devAll the people valve usually hires are already rich and successful along with having the capacity to design things.You are literally just getting things they feel like doing on a whim yes
>>560717260the issue is they won't and they'll just grief your games
>>560714228haze vyper wraith ivy are the only ones with firerate high enough to have capa proc consistently
>>560717348(You) shouldn't be in their mmr to begin with
so what's the difference between bloom and spread anyways
>>560717441TRVKE
>>560717441initiate - seeker are all the same rank because of duo queue where experienced players queue with their new friends. and it doesn't let you derank.
>>560717458nothing. "bullet inaccuracy" can also mean the same thing in some games contexts.
I've changed my mind, add FF if MM is going to be this bad. Remove it once the limit testing is over
>>560717289>realistically what could they even do?Nothing, they can just soak in money and wait for laning to end unless you let them maul you. Its not like they are particularly easy to kill either.
>>560717260Idk I left the server before I could keep arguing
>>560717221> horrible hero shooter refugees won't understand wave management, itemization, counter items, and playing for the objective rather than for killsThey're already here
>>560717738They've been here since launch
>>560717620once queues get separated again i could see them adding FF but only for unranked
new player requirement once the game releases:>5 FULL game of bots>10 games of street brawl
>>560717620my rule is 1 feeder - I'll still try 99% of the game (i will not do the final fight if its a 3v6 or something because i am not a cuck who wants to be killed again for the enemy's entertainment)2 feeders (5 deaths in lane before 10 mins) I will afk the rest of the game. I don't flame my team but I have tried in at least 20+ 2 feeder games and have never won a single one. it's a complete waste of time.
>>560716408i won't sugarcoat it, the 50/50 for punch feels far worse than a parry in melee because of the lack of movement counterplay after a parry fail, and what you described is basically half the problem of puddle punch being both overtuned and parryable right now. the range and ability to put it on walls prevents easy escape on a miss, and viscous risks absolutely nothing punching someone that doesn't have rebuttal because he can bait parry by intentionally missing, and the cd is so low and charge stack is so high that he can get multiple punches in, but making it unparryable would force yoshi to tune down the damage, but that would just make viscous even less impactful than he already is without one-tricking him and getting good with the rest of his kit as a support. of course, at that point, if i had a support, i would much rather have a paige support because a support paige blows a support viscous out of the fucking water in terms of all-game impact. the scaling reigned him in a lot, but it still "feels bad" to get juggled/dribbled in the same way it would suck to get echo charged from full to death by abrams in the previous patch.tldr i don't know how to fix him in the same way that i don't know how to fix vindicta being so easily hatecrimed, even after the scaling and flying counterspell changes she got, without giving her more stam/movement, which would just put her in s+ tier and make her double stake build even more fucked than it already is right now. their kits are both fun *and* deeply flawed given the games current direction
>>560717770>They've been here since launch>he doesn't realize instead of retarded ow players flooding in>he is going to get even more retarded marvel rivals players flooding in
>>560717128do more inhouses at this time of night
Redditors have some horrible dogshit taste in art, jesus christ
>holliday in street brawlthis shit is extremely annoying
>>560717952Silvertroons keep losing LOL
what is it about feeders suffering from main character syndrome where they blame you for not feeding with them
I just had a really, really funny game of street brawl as victor. I got transcendent cooldown, maxed my ult and put frostbite charm on it. I also had Witchmail. The enemy team just actually couldn't kill me, my ult was on 50 secs CD and kept being lowered every time i tanked something, by the time they killed me i just revived again
>>560717952>made Silver into a literal man>Celeste is some sort of freakish nightmare fuel bobblehead
>>560717770>>560717738everyone here either asked for an invite or was invited by their friend, so they probably at least TRY to understand how mobas work. when the open beta floodgates open you will get players who make current feeders look like gods
>go 0-2 or 0-3 at the worst if I have to play an eternus in lane in mixed matchmaking in oracle>oracle teammates constantly going 0-6 against other oracle playershow do I unga out of that???
>>560718094unironically pick meta, bully your teammates into not feeding, and play premades.
>>560718046>victorstopped reading theirkill yourself for putting a 70% winrate in your list
>>560718014mina is b- your favorite flavor
When will Valve add a playable focks to deadlock?
>>560718173I literally only play random on SB. Sometimes i get victor to make up for the games where i get mirage
>>560717889>>560716408i feel like there has to be something im missing because why don't they just make the time between casts (charge cooldown) a bit longer for punchlike you get them back at the same rate but it takes a little longer to spam them out
HERE COMES THE BARREL
>>560718509it's balanced around parry cooldown timingsmissed a parry? 2 punches practically guaranteed if they land, just like a melee parry
>>560718826>just like a melee parryretard
>>560717889I'd rather see them delete cube and entirely balance Viscous around puddle punch than for them to neuter its damage and buff cube or whatever so Viscous can be an actually good support, he's so much more fun as a pick character.
>>560718861punch does melee damage, but interacts with with only half of the melee system. it's not real melee in the same way that melee is melee. do you want to split hairs and hurl insults like a child, or have an actual discussion?
>doing good and dominated in my lane>wonder why we're losing>check scoreboard>our venator is going 1/12/2Why's there always 1 dude?
Went spirit mirage for the pop and the enemies just built spell breaker
>>560719251They could have spent half that much and removed you from the game anyway. LOL!
>>560719356???
>>560719030cube will never be deletedit's so integral to his identity. too much VA work about "the cube"
i really hope the animation/art team goes all out for the viscous remodelso much potential for a flubber-esque goofball
so can you only headshot the lane guardian and lane/jungle creeps? nothing else seems to benefit from headshotting
is Paradox a good hero to learn?
>>560719853her main strength is a roaming ganker who displaces enemy team so your team can get picks. if you want to play her as a carry she's shit
>>560712487loli pugnatrust the plan, wait wrong game
>>560719820correct, base guardians have heads, but don't critwhich, desu thank god, old base guardians were pushovers
>>560714718I literally haven't seen Shrink Ray, is that even real thing?
>>560720204Yes, it's so fucking broken too.
>>560720128bad game design. why do some heads crit and others don't? i see tons of people try to hit the mid boss eye as well which is pointless
>>560720286midboss eye used to critit's muscle memory to some people
>>560720250bullshit, I've been playing brawl for 2 weeks straights to learn other heroes but I've quite literally never seen Shrink Ray appear on my team or the enemies.
>be Archon 2>For some reason, thrown into Archon 6 lobby>in the next match, thrown into Emissary 6 lobby>the rank stays the same after both gamesThis matchmaking is retarded and probably written by AI
>>560720420>>560720204Its by far the rarest legendary item
>>560720236Silver is so tired of being nerfed... She needs some small buffs and belly rubs!
>>560720420You're so lucky.The sheer psychological damage that the heliumated screechy voicelines do is irrepairable.
>Graves is supposed to be an area-denial hero>Actually she needs to get right up in your face in order to deal damageThis character doesn't deliver on any of her gameplay fantasies
3 questions. haven't played in a few months, been playing again for the past 2 days1) is resto locket still good?2) is siphon bullets still good?3) has radiant regen literally every been good? don't think i've seen this item built literally ever except on shiv
>>560720420>I haven't seen it so it's not realLook on youtube or something nigga
>>560709248Calm down Mina!
>>560720575>Graves is supposed to be an area-denial herosays who?
>>560709470>shiv gets nerfed but is still good>shivfags gloat>silver gets nerfed but is still good>galactic bitching and moaning, endless downplay, threats of 41%Confirmed Shivfags are MEN while shartverfags wish they were women.
Silver belly rubs in her human form
>>560720785Valve you dumbass
>>560720894Where?
>>560711279clip from inhousehttps://files.catbox.moe/4rr02n.webm
>Ivy is the most broken support>Every time I play her my team is absolutely retarded>Carry refuses to keep up tether>Never follow up my ult or stunI am convinced theyre trolling me on purpose.
>>560720607it's a little betteryesit's basically just for geist and sometimes shiv
>>560720575Oooh watch out she threw down a wall that only lasts a few seconds and is easily jumped over aaaahhh she's denying an area watch out for her skulls you can shoot and kill instantly.
>>560720928It's right there
>>560720991>and sometimes shivShould I be building it? Looking at the numbers its not super impressive and in game I havent really noticed it much, but I want it to be good
>>560721061I dunno I don't play much shiv myself, but some of the top leaderboard guys buy it.
>>560720575>area-denial>immediately nerfs her tombstone's duration after releasing herwhat did they mean by this
Are shrines protected if you don't have minions pushed to them like every other objective? It's urgent
>>560715164So you were up a full team plus rejuv going into the enemy base where I'm assuming most of the enemy team was stuck waiting to respawn and you were worried your Rem is shoving a lane (his 3 does this basically for free) before joining you? Or did he sincerely sit in the side lane for like 5 minutes doing nothing?
>it's another pillow rem player that buys 0 team-based active items and then spergs out when we lose
you guys only like Mina because she is Asian
>>560721271idk
how does lighting scroll interact with silver ult
>>5607213486v6 by the time we were at enemy base and the rem was sitting in side lane for at least 30 seconds
>>560721484yeah? valve knew what they were doing
>>560721510The way you'd probably hope, any hit triggers it.
>>560721610gaming
how i be staring at these dollar store oracle players when i have max rage
>Drifter buys scroll>No other damage items>Just stand in his ult getting stunned every 3 seconds while our dynamo out heals himSo this is the power of a god?
you guys do know asian women don't shave right? Mina is disgusting, no wonder Pocket change his pronouns
>>560721776
>>560721535If everyone was up and he had ult, then yeah he probably should have been there just in case rejuv advantage wasn't enough. Doubly the case if lanes were healthy. That being said side lanes should almost never be neglected even when bumrushing base with rejuv, and Rem fixes them very quickly. Just suggesting a world where he was making a fine call, I dunno what the map looked like obviously so maybe he was in fact just killing shit in an already pushed up lane like a retard
>>560720236HRT coded post
>>560720236>>560720561how much steven universe and high guardian spice before this becomes your artstyle
Thoughts on Ricochet on shotguns?
recently-not-depressed-anymore drawfag herelooking to draw deadlock girls (minus ivy)taking requests, will reply to one i like that ill do, delivery time indeterminate
>>560722706Ivy
>>560720928you can't fool me, illiterate-kun
>>560722341I've never heard of pellets ricocheting to any great effect since they typically lodge into a soft target or just lose their velocity against anything hard enough to ricochet against. Even slugs would probably have a very hard time hitting something in a way to ricochet
>>560721726>decays u>misses every knife>m2 awayah tried to be nice!
>>560722706Graves
so i managed to import a blender model into the game, but im struggling to give it doorman's animations. i tried "add simple animation" with doorman's uncompiled dmx file but nothing really happens can anyone help?
im gonna go ahead and say that stone form is the most powerful non-ult ability in the game,
>>560722706Ivy licking victor.
Street brawl got it's fangs hooked into me
ritualist shitter game, but here's an hour plus long slog fest. last fight i literally bought cheat death twice to refresh itself. ( i think it worked? too hectic)
>>560723105>that silverKEK
>>560722706Haze kicking her feet while sitting on a bridge with rem
>>560723105>Lolifu>3-15>Silver/dlg/ in the wild.
>>560723105Paige tried to play DPS
>>560723194I feel bad but what is he supposed to do? At that point you may as well buy curse and play a soft support role since your scaling is so ass.
>>560722706Cinnamon(Paige) pole dancing.
>>560723267not in the L->R build bro
>>560723217She has barrier and her shield has huge spirit scaling.But why the fuck did she buy scroll? Her ult is already a hard stun. Buy tank buster or refresher.
Who gives the best footjobs?Hardmode: no women
>>560720987they should let you swap hp with your teammates so you can grief people like terrorblade
>>560722706Paige having sex with Victor
>>560723669Lash...
>>560723669Pocket or Apollo since they're twinks and probably have experience
This graves did literally nothing but rush cooldown, duration, then refresher and spam ults down a lane all gameThey did this and snuck midboss as we were pinned in base. Eventually our sinclair did the same thing to them and we took mid at ~47 minutes after getting them low and forcing them to base. Graves then sold all of her items. You love to see it.He had no idea how to play the game beyond doing the wave pressure too. Kinda sad
>>560723267he's at 70k souls into a not very tanky team. he's long past the point where he starts doing serious damage and wolf form absolutely fucks up like everyone except seven. he's just giga ass
>>560723946only turboshitters play graves
>>560723946Graves is a dogshit fucking hero, what else is she gonna do?
>>560724020>wolf form absolutely fucks up like everyone except sevenDoes he know?
>>560724030it is known
is ivy the worst fucking her in pisslow elo? i've never seen one use their ult during laning phase and they just get raped because the enemy uses ults
>>560724093ah yea wolf form is sooooo weak now right. it's not just very strong after being nerfed from extremely op, no silver is the worst character in the game. trvke
>>560724093>0 metal skins>0 slowing hexes>1 plated armorthis is a silvertroons wet dream, and look at xer damage haha!
>>560724020do you see his items?kek/dlg/ approved silver build
>>560724176Tranny-chan, you aren't actually helping your point. If you don't even need to buy counters anymore the hero is basically a -1.
>>560723669Abrams
>>560724304>Lets see what these soles can do!
>>560723946>This graves did literally nothing but rush cooldown, duration, then refresher and spam ults down a lane all gameIs that supposed to be bad?
>>560724185>If you don't even need to buy counters anymoreyou think maybe being a ritualist game has anything to do with the fact that the enemy team doesn't buy counter items and the retarded silver is extremely ass into such a good comp for her
>>560724171Her wolf form does fuck all damage mate. By the time you get like 8+ stacks its already over. Did you know 2/3 of her wolf form abilities stack with melee too, so they actually have -50% scaling compared if they just did normal gun damage.
>>560724387sorry, meant for the faggot tranime poster >>560724274>>560724416cope harder retard, she still does insane damage in it. it deservedly got gutted and it's still quite strong. you're just upset because she can't straight up two tap people anymore
>>560724375>>560724078It's effective but also you have zero impact on the game and just drag things out forever. It's a retarded way to play only a subhuman would do. Graves is really not that bad you can do decent things with a toxic bullets gun build and some good greens to survive and weave in and out of fights. If you just sit in the back doing nothing youre barely playing. He should be practicing actual teamfights with graves in street brool cause he sucked ass and then raged like a moneky when his zero skill strategy didnt work lmao
>>560724482>Can't name a single thing strong about her wolf form besides damage that straight up doesn't existI accept your concession about the worst ult in the game.
>>560724567It works fine actually.
>>560724586sorry that you went 3/15 in that anon's game. hope you learn silver properly so you get out of your shitter elo!pic related is you once your bottom surgery goes awry btw
>>560724567>you have zero impact on the gameThat's a given when he picked graves
>>560724714>replying to obvious shitter b8
>>560724605nope
>>560724714holy kek
>pick Warden>Flask to lvl 2, shield lvl 1, max Flask, shield lvl 2, max Binding, ult lvl 2 and do whatever>Monster Rounds into Quicksilver into most likely Battle Vest, but Emblem is fine too if there's a lot of Spirit damage flying around>Greedy? Sacrifice, otherwise skip and continue to>Blood Tribute, Close Range, Enduring Speed, Fleetfoot, Bullet Lifesteal, Berserker (you should aim to have max stacks as often as possible by toggling Tribute)>Slide as much as you can>Get a 3200 green here or after Magnum>Magnum, Point Blank, Vampiric Burst>You should probably get Crippling Headshot or more damage resist from Frenzy or Escalating ResilienceI love this gun build even though I would like a bit more ammo. I'm not convinced Spirit builds are better but I do want to look more into going Quicksilver - Surge of Power and ultimately getting Boundless Spirit combined with maxing shield earlier. Maybe having Intensifying Magazine and Witchmail in there, too. I hate Flask Warden, though, something like >>560709643.
>>560724925Just get slowing hex then echoshard your 3 and max it now it cant be dispelled twice and they have to buy unstoppable or get rizzaped all game.
T4 items need some sort of buff. They're just never worth buying.
>>560724567>Zero impact >Pressured everylane>Snuck miniboss>You guys only turned it around by copying his strat It seems like this grave was doing a fuck of a lot and their team didn't know how to end the game with a dedicated laner.Hell just getting the extra slots from graves destroying 1 walker faster than your team can can snowball extremely fast if your team isn't hard buying tier 4 items L-R
>>560725053nigger what
Need a Shivgawd to give me the AP order
>>560725074Ultimately deadlock is only about teamfighting so if you cant teamfight youre going to lose and he couldnt teamfight so we won. Macro does not matter in this game after 30 minutes it's just win a teamfight for midboss. That's it.
>>560721776She better have a jungle down there
>>560725024What if they spend 800 on a stamina item?
>>560725143Oh you're retarded.My B for thinking you had roomtemp IQ.
>>560725190t. graves player
>>560725214>Oh know someone that actually knows how to play the game and not just brool showed up>Time to piss myself
>>560725190he's not wrong. this game literally has two neutral objectives and one of them is a retarded goose chase essentially. you play for a pick and do mid boss, that's the entire late game. and you sure as hell can't bait midboss for a 6v6 because of how the pit is set up and the crystal. that's basically a throw waiting to happen
>>560724387They don't buy counters because they are not needed, the hero just melts late game. Tranny-chan.
>>560707709Should I just give up on getting good at this game at this point?
>>560725256bro there's literally nothing you can gain by splitpushing other than giving up mid boss. you cant even get the patron any more since it literally becomes invulnerable or highly resistant to damage if anyone's in it. Literally ZERO macro
>>560725283Who needs to bait midboss? He said in the post the graves snuck the midboss while they where pushed in. Good macro removes the need for team fights because your already preempting objects with pressure on their base.
Torment pulse is an item you either buy immediately at like 8 minutes, or never buy it
>>560725338have you tried playing a different type of hero maybe m1ggers arent for you and youre fighting your naturetry abrams or mo or some brawlerhell even calico
>>560725363>giving up mid boss.Literally read the post you idiot, the graves snuck the miniboss because of lane pressure.
>>560725435I got a positive winrate with Haze though.
>>560725432I never buy it because it's shit.
>>560722706Silver awkwardly standing there looking at the viewer
Question, should I be buying counterspell ''every'' game? right now I only buy it against things I can very easily counterspell on reaction like a bebop bomb, drifter ult or pocket ult etc
>>560708093why isn't lash helping ?
>>560725621If you're consistantly getting singled out by counterable abilities sure, but if your just catching strays in a team fight more direct defensive items or your primary stat is better.
>>560724304I'm embarrassed to say I've see sfm stuff of Abrams' soles and it was hot
never played a moba seriously before, how do I itemize ? should I just blindly follow public loadouts and buy one or two extra items depending on the matchup ? Or should I just memorize everything and go from there ?
I got told to kill myself for playing bird max GT today
>>560725957Look up what 4-5 items are core on the heros you like, then memorize what items counter meta heros. Buy your core items and choose the counter items depending on the game.If you have no idea what to buy refresher or cheat death are always useful last buys.
https://files.catbox.moe/6o3nee.jpegThoughts?
>>560726149Futa celeste should be fucking him
>Make mistake of buying Vampiric Burst on Mirage>His gun damage is so fucking low that you die through it
>>560725338>he thinks this is badI literally have 20 won games out of 50
It's so funny whenever my teammates start flaming people over brawl because come on man this Mario Party ass gamemode is not worth all that effort
>>560726206My gripe is that I have friends who are newer with way less hours or players like xqc higher rank than me while I can win or lose or whatever and I am still stuck in this dog shit rank. There is no metric that is showing improvement.
>>560726273>or players like xqc higher rank than me>he thinks he is going to be better than a retired ow pro
>>560725957Some heroes like apollo buy basically the same shit every game except for the situationals like resitances and reactive barrier etc.Other heroes need to custom tailor their build based on matchups and team members (like drifter)
>>560726389>ricochet
>one of my feedback forum posts has 8 views<.<
>>560726389I mean not even that guy I know a friend who started earlier than me and has less hours but is higher rank its upsetting.
>>560726462>thinks xqc buying ricochet 1st/2nd to speedrun a game against players vastly inferior to him is a bad decision
>>560726389Bro rushed ricochet then left lane to farm jungle, losing lane and ending up with worse farm than his team. Also the only green he had for like 20m was sprint boots.
>>560726227It's so rare anyone gets on comms to do anything but type GG in that mode. I did manage to get some heat the other night (we won anyway)
>>560726527time played doesn't equate to skill at all. go watch one of your replays. I bet you spend most of your time walking around doing jack shit and don't realize it when it's happening.if you aren't vod reviewing your gameplay then you're not actually trying to improve and just want to complain.
>>560726558>vastly inferior to himI watched him play Abrams and he spent, and I'm not kidding, half of every fight stunned by parries.>>560726273Anon MM is unironically weighted in such a way that it's easier to move ranks the fewer games you have played. Chill.
>>560726273well it's definitely easier to rank up on new accounts due to glicko2 volatility but at the same time being in emissary on HAZE is definitely not matchmaking's fault you genuinely are not playing properly since she can do it all. Gank, teamfight, hyperfarm. Haze can win basically every game at that rank if you deserve to be much higher mmr than that.
>>560726663So I have to make an alt?>>560726616I watch my gameplay back but then I see my 3-8 venator piss feeding the mina and then my team saying you need to carry while I am afk farming jungle>>560726715There are some games where my team just piss feeds and we never get to play the game.
>>560726520Thanks for the feedback.
>turns out it's the gay faggots who try to diss on yuriFigures, but you lost, tranny
>>560726790>I watch my gameplay back but then I see my 3-8 venator piss feeding the mina and then my team saying you need to carry while I am afk farming junglethis attitude explains the rank, cheers.
>>560726790No just suck it up and keep playing. You'll move up eventually. But also ITS AN ALPHA WITH SHITTY MM STOP CARING SO MUCH ABOUT RANKS
>>560726790Yeah but youre not the one making the enemies piss feed sooooo what gives ? You can definitely force mistakes and kill the fed heroes and take their jungle bags to come back. You literally are invis with a good ult for soloing most heroes.
>>560726887but how else am I supposed to measure skill improvement. >>560726881This dismissive attitude is why mobas never catch on. Teammates sucking dick and making games unplayable is a huge reason why a lot of people are stuck.
>>560726965Actually it's your attitude why moba's sucks everyone blames their team for being "bad" instead of thinking about how to win games that are tough they just give up and blame matchmaking instead of being self aware
>>560726965For every game where your teammates feed and you don't get to play, there's a game where the enemy feeds and you get a free win.A good player will influence that ratio, a bad one will throw up their hands and cry that forced 50 is keeping them down.
>have thousands of hours in league>have thousands of hours in csgo/dota/gmod>picked this game up a month ago and am stuck ascendant in 150 games cause I cant be arsed to meta abuseWhat's your excuse for being your rank?
>>560726965>but how else am I supposed to measure skill improvement.How well you do? Your stats? How good you feel?
>muh rank!!!!!>when i dont know schmovement, itemization, timing, sinner/jungle/rune spawn time, 2nd floors, where the air vents are, urn timings, schmovement WITH urn, mid boss timing, boxes/gold statues, underground subway, teleporter...
>>560727074Any time there's a trans or furry on my team I throw the game out of spite. There's a lot of them
>>5607178181 feeder + someone is sitting on an egg or 1/6 on a high skillcap hero I pretty much just afkmy winrate over the past week has been raped by these eggtards, quite literally every single game and I am beyond tired of it. i used to have a 52% winrate and now I'm nearing flat 50i'm really really really tired of icefrog putting in these retard traps and ruining my games/making them 50x harder. it's the same shit when trophy collector was in every game
You know what? Bring back solo lanes. Just had a game where this Seven fucked me out of early game souls.
>>560727074I have the same amount of games and I'm in ritualist. Fuck you.
just dreamt about having a scottish gf
>>560727331Well, I just dreamt about having a werewolf gf. Beat that
>lane partner goes to do le epik box run (just like my nightshift matches!) inbetween waves even though we don't have lane pressure and we didn't shove the wave>guardian loses half of his health and I lose 2/3rds of my life
>>560727438I hate people that do this so much.
do you play honest paradox
It's funny how heal creeps basically bait people into staying on lane with 5% hp and get themselves killed, the tool that's meant to keep people alive ends up being the main reason there's so many deaths in lane.
>>560726715>glicko2thats what icefrog is using for this game?
>>560727438I noticed during the first 3 waves that you were losing every trade so I made the call to give up on the lane and suck up as many resources as possible
>>560727613>echo shart bombthat's dishonest paradoxhonest paradox is gun + utility
>>560727859well im not saying i am
>>560727613Show rank, if it's eternus I know all that damage was farmed on metro so it still doesn't count.
Melee Yamato somewhat validated in Archon, the charges on her 2 are a pretty good.Melee/tanky Shiv only works because light melee builds a fuckton of rage compared to knives/decayslop, but if you get CC'd it's over.Both builds clearly not lose 6 games in a row material, I have to try something else if I want to derank back to emissary.
>>560727619If I leave my teammate will NOT freeze the wave
>>560728434>Melee/tanky Shiv only works because light melee builds a fuckton of rage compared to knives/decayslop, but if you get CC'd it's over.We grow stronger and smarter every day Shivgawds...
>>560727438>i shove the wave>decide to go for a box run because there's nothing to do there >retard nigger teammate decides to clear their troopers under their tower>i am now behind 1k soulsggs
>>560727074I play Mirage and am still adjusting to the fact he has no way to deal damage to someone with brain cells.
>game dev puts boxes and golden statues to break with goodies inside>"NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT GO BREAK THESE YOU HAVE TO LANE JANNY 100%"
>>560728676>walker dies
>>560728547You gotta find a silver lining to playing monke dude before they rework him.
>>560728791>before they rework himI might stop playing if they change him too much
>>560728610Now that's a little sadPoor guy, Nashala must be very disappointed
>>560728610Im so sorry Miragebros...
>>560728610just hit your shots and pop the mark bro
>>560728610If mamdani never hits you up through comms, youre not playing him right
>>560728610FOR THE DJ-ack!
>>560728610YOU JUST GOTTA HAVE HANDS BRO
>>560727150I've started checking people's avatars before I return commends at the end of a match. Gross ass zoo gooners everywhere.
>>560729065You should be able to counterspell the dispel magic. Not that I could ever hit that
>>560727085Usually decent unless its forced 50 and my team piss feeds before I can get online. >>560727042I mean what am I supposed to do when both other lanes feed the shiv and mina and I am down 10k+ souls to them?>>560727036This game is snowbally so its hard to win games where you are behind especially on haze cuz metal skin.
Why does EU not play the gooball?
>>560729374he's ugleh
>>560729372>down 10k+ souls to them?from kills in lane? seems unlikely
>>560711306the closest hero you're getting is kelvin's cuck house
The wolfpack is silent
>>560714718Are there specific conditions are certain Legendaries to spawn? I swear Eternal Gift always spawns when a person dies a lot and unstable concoction always spawns for 3000+ hp people
>>560715414>i suspect that valve may be adding botsSo i'm not the only one suspecting this, but I kinda don't believe it because people are legit that fucking braindead.
>>560729650AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bring back Neon Prime
>>560728051what if I tell you it's Seeker III
>>560715557Its is the funnest part of the game, imagine sitting in your cuck corner until your guardian falls hoping you dont get dove kek
>>560729650It's funny to imagine that she needs to make a hole in all her pants to make her tail fit
>>560728770walkers die so easily in this patch it doesn't matter either way
>>560730287>teammate leaves walker>one wave crashes it dies>no biggie they get stronger>second one dies just as easy>mount a 3 man defense for the third, full health walker>celeste ignores us all, kills it and leaveskekw, yes I am in pisslow
>>560727074i have never trained movement, my aim is shit couldnt even get to gold nova in cs, dont know how to wall jump properly, dont know how to corner boost, dont know how to run urn properly, i never parry, i never buy counterspell, im not interested in learning any of that stuff either. I just want to goober around and have fun.Im phantom II
>>560730625You ever just throw a dry heavy out there just to test the waters?
>>560729650Maybe once they unfuck her ult we'll be more loud. As of now her ult feels like a debuff.
>>560729475kills in lane then they just death ball and I am trying to catch up so I don't join the fights cuz they are stupid.
>>560730625>I just want to have funmy knees...
>>560724375i bet you'll hate a certain mcginnis who does that all the time
>>560730696still baiting?
>>560730625Are you literally me?I was hardstuck silver in CS. Hardstuck bronze in league. Aim so bad it makes me feel like I'm in my 80sI am phantom 3 after 400 hours.
Here is Mina's actual best build right now. Only thing missing is Toxic Bullets but you can get it after Richochet or Stamina Mastery. Fortitude for later if you want or not at all.
>>560731084You can put an imbue suggestion on QSR in the build editor, on the left side when you select the item
>>560730680Beginning of every lane that is first order of business anon
>>560730929Baiting?Please explain how her ult is strong.Do you sit still and let her melee range m1s hit you? I guess she would feel strong in that case.
>>560730929Not everything you disagree with is bait, 70IQ-kun
>>560731185Dangerously based
>>560731229You're an avatarfag as well.
>>560731343It's not avatarfagging to just share pictures of best girl. It's very valuable community service to a wonderful thread.Could you answer the question though please? I'm curious to see your explanation.
why the fuck does crackshot have a 20 second cooldown
>>560731752He's not gonna give a meaningful reply. All the silver up-players just give vibes and feeling coded responses. They can't name a single strong thing about her.
>>560731878sry we forgot about her when we buffed almost every single hero on the roster... haha our bad!
>>560722706Geist showing some leg
>>560731924>All the silver up-players just give vibes and feeling coded responses. They can't name a single strong thing about herTrvkeEverytime I see Silver upplay it always reeks of either some shitter who sucks ass and got his ass handed to him by a Silver in his last match or some brainless eceleb worshipping ape who just repeats their retarded opinions on Silver.By the way, the ecelebs think she's bad now but won't say it because they overhyped her so much and it would make them look retarded to even the most thickheaded of the retarded masses that watch or listen to them, the only Eternus players picking Silver now are tournament retards, and we've all seen how that went.
Jump pad is unironically the best part of Holiday's kit, nothing more annoying than facing a good Holiday that can make use of her mobility. If anything needs to be reworked it's the barrels/crackshot.
>>560732317Jump pad is fine but doesn't fit Holliday in the slightest, it should've been Celeste's ability, given she's an acrobat and all.Holliday as a whole should get a rework
>>560732432>been Celeste's abilityBut shes a new character so she gets all the benefits as a passive LOL!
>>560728610>Traveler changed back to a channel (does not cancel on damage)>Traveler now moves your camera to your destination upon starting the channel>Revert gun nerfDoes this fix Mirage without making him OP?
Matchmaking is absolutely fucked recently. When you have a game where people are 100k ahead of you, the devs fucked up.
How do I get good at Mina?
>>560732765>learn to aim>learn the map layout for best escapes with bats>learn to get aggresive/in their face and then back off>learn jumping/rotations with high stamina>try to proc her passive as often as possible
>>560732992 I dont wanna do any of that, whats a fast and easy way
>>560733086hrt, play support, try to pass in voice chat, ask an eternus youtuber to teach you for sex
>people still upplay Silver This bait is getting stale.
>gay talon spend whole game does fucking nothing but farm and only send bird to help
Ranks mean nothing, "pro" opinions mean nothing, matchmaking is fucked and it all depends where game initially set you up/where you managed to climb by winning 30 matches in a row by abusing a broken meta champ.20+ years of Dota 2 experience btw.
I want to kiss Vindicta's voiceSexiest female voice in the game
>>560733273I'm trying to upplay venator, frankly impossible
>>560733757Venator couldnt 1v4 under walker on release so he didnt attract a certain crowd...
>I wonder if he knows that I know he's lying right know>Oh Graves is useless?>That's the stuff, that's the stuff, I see you>Celestre not nerfed hard enough?>Mhm that's nice>Silver is still op? Goly, okay I see you
>>560733924Meds now!
i love victor so fucking much
>>560733883Yeah he just kills three people with his hitscan ult wtf imba
Who's the village rapist of deadlock?
>>560734167Just buy counterspell
>Yeah, the game is dying. The community hates us. The newbies are leaving. The Dev's aren't contacting us. We might be alone, it might just be you and me in lane.. but that's okay. DO YOU REALLY NEED ANYONE ELSE?!
>>560734185the drifta
>>560734160this is not ok
>>560734309Pull. Back.
>>560734185me with my peanur
>>560707709Silver is has a little too much healing and speed in wolf form but she's much more fair than she used to be so it's pretty fair rn. Maybe slight nerf needed to resistances and mobility. Nothing major. >>560709632Terror. Panic. Fear. Dread. Watching the Mo&Krissile maneuver in on me. Performing corkscrew turns like the planes on 9/11.
>>560734309I hope 6v6 dies and queue times go parabolic. Fuck that mode and anyone who likes it.Now, payload on the other hand? Well...
DEATHMATCHDEATHMATCHDEATHMAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH
>>560734351That's the point I want to rape victor
>>560734808She desperately needs buffs...
THE BAXTUH SOCIETY...
>THENCold Front and its consequences have been a disaster for the Deadlock race>NOWCounterspell and its consequences have been a disaster for the Deadlock race>SOON???
>>560735412AH TRIED TO BE NICE
>>560735412Deadlock and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>enduring speed>stamina masteryTime to game
>>560735536Where you runnin?
>2026 + 3.5>Paladins, a cancelled game from a decade ago that isn't even a moba still has more build variety deliberately built into its systems
i think a big issue with victor is that silencing abilities dont turn off his stink aura if it's already on, i think if this were changed it would be better to play against. otherwise the only real reason to buy silence wave against victor is to try and stop a res ult if you can time the kill right.pic of better victor
>>560735610Down York the entire game, only fighting when I have 10000 more souls than the next person
>>560735863silence doesn't stop the ult, you want to silence him for his jumpstart(2).
>>560735863>i think a big issue with victor is that silencing abilities dont turn off his stink aura if it's already onThe hero would be completely unplayable if that were the case you moron. Maybe silence him before he is inside your asshole?
>>560735972>The hero would be completely unplayable if that were the caseGood
>>560735972He's already unplayable hes so bad this patch
>>560735412Cold Front is cringe cheap easy damage item. Counterspell is KINO.
>>560736039We need buffs now! so tired of victor upplayers
WACH DEH BAWL BOIS AN GUYLS!
>>560735412Cheat Death after it’s buffs
Why has no modder made Haze into Hunter Gathers from venture bros?
>>560735863Silence blocks his 1, which is where his damage/heal comes from, and his 2, which is his heal/cleanseSilence never stopped channeled abilities or passives which are his 3 and 4
>>560736170What am I suppose to do when I kill someone and see they have it? Wait for the visual to go away and attack again or just keep shooting?
>>560736132I'LL HIT AS MANY AS I CYAN
>>560735863His 3 does fuck all damage now what do you want.All of the powerbudget went into buffing 1/2 to compensate, all of which are countered by silence.
>>560735863Victor downplayers did NOT like this post lmao
>>560736180what is this unc ass cartoon?
>>560735863Victor is already fucking dogshit with aura having a 0.6 scaling and 10% dmg nerf overall, he's a farm bot for 20-30 minutes because he's a glorified minion without escalating exposure>inc victor downplayer!!Maybe get good at the game before using retarded buzzwords and buy silencer and other shit to cuck his gameplay >Nooo I don't want to buy 385848 items!!! This is bad design!!!Ok get raped
Slowing hex just removes Victor from the game btw
Gay sex just removes Abrams from the game btw
>>560736453>anon exposes himself as a newfag
>>560736624I have no idea what this is and I'm an oldfag who's been here for 10 years
You CANNOT expect me to buy active items, even if they're really good, are easy to use and have low cooldowns
>other heroes >buy 1 or 2 counter items and they're worthless >Victor >buy at least 2 counter items on each hero and he's killable >he still takes ages to kill, comes back >also deals a million damage Victorbros... when will the persecution end? Victor is so weak it's so unfair...
sometimes I question if these people have a brain
>>560736738Devs are actively trolling the playerbase by fucking Victor players over every single patch
Can you anons point where victor touched you to be so mindbroke by him
>>560736726Not knowing about The Venture Brothers makes you tasteless swine.
Asking helpers for sexual favors.
i need some tips for graves
>>560737060Play another hero and wait for her to be buffed.
>>560737113new balance patch when?
>>560737060All you need is gun, lifesteal, and some stamina
>>560737113it's over...
>>560737113She has over 50% winrate.
>>560736726>I'm an oldfag who's been here for 10 years
>>560735863the whole point of silence is that it doesn't interrupt
You think they'll reset your match history when the game actually releases? Clean slate? Trying to remember if they did that for Dota
>>560736180HOLY BASED zoomiggers aren't based enough to handle such a character >once underwent gender reassignment surgery to maintain cover>got his dick reattached >still more of a man than the average broccoli head
>>560737401that would actually kill any chance this game has at being popularthere's already enough new players quitting because they're getting steamrolled every game and high level players complaining they get retards for teammatesimagine that but 100x worse
>>560736726>10 years>oldfagAnon pls
>>560737457>got his dick reattachedand lost a couple inches too
>>560737580There'll at least be an optional mmr reset. Dota still lets you do it.They won't literally clear your match history though.
>>560727613I will make paradox an honest woman by building trophy collector, the most honest item in the game
>>560728556I took a single small camp because I was behind on souls after backing up a little bit with healing rite and the teammate wraith kept killing troopers and the wraith legit cried the entire match about me stealing her farm.It was awesome.
>>560737001>tfw images and videos I post here get saved and repostedfeelsgood
>>560728610>even abrams is down to 48% wr this patch no one can escape the clutch of the top tiers this patch. I'm just going to play McGinnis because I already liked her and abuse some freelo out of her.
DeadGame is dead. Dota 2 wins again. Cope and seethe, cucklockers! LOL
>>560737949haha no cap unc!
Redditor cope about absolutely shit balancing is that "they are figuring out character identities" lmao
>>560737949lol are Valve neglecting you now?
>>560736726>oldfag who's been here for 10 yearsso an election tourist?
Is Shiv the only character that buys decay?
>>560737001Stealing this.
if I get a gorillion assists and a few deaths but barely any kills it just means my uptime during the game is high right? Sometimes I'll get an assist for being near an enemy even if I was just passing by which is weird to me
>>560738103I take it against>shiv/Victor/abramsHealbane needs a spirit based upgrade imo. Right now it's just a dead end t2 for no discernable reason
I LOVE ACTIVE ITEMS, I LOVE HOW TRANSCENDANT COOLDOWNS INTERACTS WITH ACTIVE ITEMS, I LOVE HAVING MORE BUTTONS TO PRESS AND MORE OPTIONS WITHIN THE GAME
>>560738314They're scared of giving it an upgrade because the last time they upgraded healbane they made it upgrade into leech.It healed for almost 400 every kill, every match leech was a must have no matter what character, and if they gave healbane an upgrade it'd be the same even if it was just a t3.Healbane is good and the tax is that you're keeping a fucking t2 in your slots instead of a t3 or t4 lategame.
>>560738314It's trash into Victor unless you also have a silence. He just dispels it and then you have no anti heal at all. Every other anti heal item is a better option against him
>>560738314>it's just a dead end t2 for no discernable reasonbecause it's already really fucking good?
Enhanced items in the normal game mode when
Shiv.
>>560736726I was a literal child when that shit was on tv and I know what it is. Guarantee anons here have sperm older than you.
>>560738476healbane is applied on every tick of spirit damage so even if he dispells it it's immediately reapplied + i don't even think he can dispel it because its not considered a debuff.
>>560738589He meant decay. Decay is ass for victor.
>>560738375this but unironically i love piano gameplay.
>>560738531enhanced stamina should be baseline for everyone by default.
>like apollo and pocket's gameplayWho should be my third hero to complete my roster?
>>560738649I meant it unironically as well
>>560738564DAH DAMN YEW
>>560738839They should go back to the time where almost every active item costs 1600. I love hammering hexes and decay.
>>560738790Sinclair
>>560734309>*ventator ult headshot kill*>*slow motion reload*>COOOOMMMMEE>BREAK ME DOWN>(PARRY ME PARRY ME)>I AM FINISHED WITH YOU
make refresher refresh item cds(excluding refresher obvs)
>>560738314>Healbane needs a spirit based upgrade imo.Don't you just sell it for Spirit Burn later on?
>>560739457it already does that? bri?
>>560739457>4 bebop bomps instantly
Most all balance complaints can be negated desu>"This hero OP!">scoreboard the whiner posted has zero counter items purchasedAre these people simply new to Dota? It feels confusing having to explain that you buy force staff to escape slark leash, eul's scepter to bypass Ursa's debuff, etc
>just buy a 6400 item to counter Victor bro!naruhodo...
>>560739603>force staff to escape slark leashlolAlso buying one counter item isn't the same as being forced to buy a dozen counter items to kill one hero.
>>560739603You lost, dotanigger?
Here's an item idea!>Rape>It rapes people!>REAL HARD!!!
>>560727438>>560728556To be fair, box running is unfun and should somehow be removed eventually
>>560739801that's curse though
>>560739801this is disarming hex + silence wave
>>560737190Quite honestly can't tell you why, I never see her win.
>>560739801Whats the cast range and duration though?
>>560739801Why would they rework Mo & Krill into an item?
>>560739701what do you mean "lol", that's how you broke his leash. Post hours and rank in Dota>Also buying one counter item isn't the same as being forced to buy a dozen counter items to kill one hero.No hero has this problem currently where they need that many counter items
>>560739803As is denying, it's why objectives can't be denied.As is urn, it's why it is no longer static.As in midboss, it's why it keeps getting easier to kill. As is farming, it's why it keeps getting easier.Fact of the matter is anything but fighting is boring, and the immense popularity of Street Brawl(more than double the normal playercounts and over triple the amount of matches played) means it has overtaken standard as the normal mode. It even gets new items before "standard", because Street Brawl is going to be the way the game is played in less than 4 years.
>>560740049Force staff hasn't broken slarks leash for years anon
>>560739989>Rape them Maurice!
>>560740049>Post hours and rank in Dota20k hours, 4k something EU.Force staff hasn't worked vs Slark for years.
counter items in are supremely cost efficient. this means when you're behind, you absolutely have to have them in order to keep up. ideally even buying as many as you can. retards, being retarded, think that the basic strategy of "buy shit thats strong now but scales poorly" is too much dopamine deprivation and so they refuse to do it
>>560740127>over triple the amount of matches played>game that takes 15 minutes is played 3 times more often than game that takes 45 minutesHuh. That's insane.
>>560739701Bro.. leash status wasnt added into dota till mich much later...
>>560740130>>560740248Didn't know they removed slark leash break. My point remains, None of these whiners are buying counter items.
>>560722706Let me get uhhhhhhIvy
>DUDE YOU NEED TO SPEND 6400 SOULS TO STOP THE CALICO FROM RAPING YOU FOR 3 SECONDS BEFORE SHE DOES IT ANYWAY
>>560723946It's that or cancer ray melee range gun, she can't do anything else
>>560722706Nashala
Why did they remove the railings or whatever from the ziplines?
>>560740779Spirit/gun shielding + extra stam should do it.Unless you started feeding 2 minutes in
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>>560740929me and my victor duo
>>560740929MY HERO victor would never marry he is BURDENDED by his INNER DEMONS and sees HIMSELF as a DISGUSTING freak.
>>560740903I suspect they figured they would put them back once they were happy with the zipline setup on the new map(blue has received one or two changes iirc) and then just forgot. Or forgot entirely and never remembered they were a thing
>>560740903Useless clutter especially with the game's verticality, it's magic anyway might as well have an ethereal colored line it's not like some faggot youtuber retard is gonna make a 45 minutes video essay titled "WHERE DO DEADLOCK'S ZIPLINES GO????"
>I'll see you soon...
>>560740779>a fed assassin is headed my way>should I retreat and return with 2 allies to rape her 3v1 and push the lane>or>have a honorobu duel that lasts exactly 5 seconds and ends up giving assassin another killReally tough choice but if you're a man you'll go with 2. You can even silence wave her first when you're 20m away to show that you're not a pushover. It will wear off right when you reach her.
>>560741003he's taller than the average man he'll be fine
>>560741135>>a fed assassin is headed my way>implying youll see her sneaking up on you in cat form at mach 5Are these calicos that just walk towards you in the thread with us right now?
Counter items like Silence Wave can be outright better and more damaging than stat sticks and people still avoid them
>>560739801Buying this item on bebop and using it on lash on cooldown
>>560740929Beauty and the ugly beast
>don't worry about falling behind, the urn is the best comeback mechanic>even though if you're losing and decide to run it, you're just making it easier for the enemy team to force you into a fight you're bound to lose>after they wipe your team and steal the urn, they'll just take everything in your jungle since they're there already>but trust me, this game has so many ways to make a comeback
Ivy pubes.
>>560741662>B-But [insert valve dicksucking headcanon here]
>>560741662I have yet to see a person say stomps are not a problem and comebacks a possibility in most games, and if I did I'd probably question their sanity if not outright disregard their input. Where are you seeing these people
>>560741296>lash jumped on me from the blindspot>haze sleep daggered me from stealth>celeste landed on my head before I could react>drifter raced to me at 500km/s>etc etc etcNY is a dangerous place, shit can just happen to you
so i played my first 4 games on deadlock. then i watched a few top player replays... the learning curve seems a little intimidatingare (you) all moving around the map like that?
>>560741662Urn is a comeback mechanic but it's also supposed to help a stomping team end games faster as well, it's pretty cleverly designed but it does feel unfair if you assume it's always meant to help the losing team.
>>560742074Not really but I try my best!t. eternus 2
>>560742074Yeah and then I fuck it up and say out loud that I'm going to kill myself.
I know it's not that that good but I love buying decay when everyone on the enemy team refuses to get debuff resist or dispel.
>>560742074sometimes I diagonal dash
>>560741662>if my team is more than 500 souls behind we should get free soul handouts directly from patron to make game ~fun~ and ~fair~why are you playing a moba again? there is special babby genre for you, called hewwo swwooter. You can pwway twwacew anon! :3
>>560742074You get used to movement enough that you can move around much faster but you don't need to know all the autism movement tech
>>560741662Removing urn entirely would be a net positive for the game
>>560741662does anyone even likes runing urn
>>560742074I time my jump dashes correctly sometimes when I wait for a game to pop in the hideout.
>>560742219>if my team is more than 500 souls ahead we should get free soul handouts directly from patron to make game ~fun~ and ~fair~I really don't think a moba needs a stomping mechanic
>>560742219Why are dotafags/valve cocksuckers like this?One-sided matches always suck ass
>>560742074The movement autism is mostly high Eternus. You'll see some people with very good movement but dogshit macro stuck in lower ranks, this is very rare and they get shut down easily by our heroes Mo&Krill, Knockdown etc.Don't be intimidated by this stuff. Get comfortable with throwing in some wall jumps here and there while moving around, learn how ziplines work (crouch conserves momentum), learn how heavy melee can help you reach ledges (useful to reach sidelanes vents) and this is more than you need to go all the way to Oracle (if you care about rank).
>>560742132>>560742074a lot of us have been playing for over a year, the movement in this game makes other games feel slow. After a while it become second nature and you'll surprise yourself when you miss a dash jump or something.
>$15k in one year for coaching in a beta >$45 per hourThis game's breeding suckers
>>560742410>>560742414>I really don't think a moba needs a stomping mechanicthen whats the point of creeps, jungle, boxes, sinners?If you remove economy from moba you get a hero shooter.
>>560742286>>560741662Based. Urn in its current form is awful.
>I don't think this game needs a stomping mechanic>OMG GO PLAY OVERWATCH WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE SHOULD JUST REMOVE CREEPS WAVES JUNGLES BOXES AND SINNER (Chokes on yoshis dick)
>>560742554Dotards proving yet again for the billionth time that they have never played any other video game but dota2 in their lives.
>>560742541I can respect it, economny is rough might as well take advantage of all the retards.
>>560742510I miss this lighting, made the game feel like a horror game
>>560742697If you only have comeback mechanics the game feels equally miserable because the losing team can reverse the lead and start stomping at any minute.
(you) know what I'm talking about
>>560742704I'm waiting for examples of other games
>>560742510I tried to dash jump into a wallhop in counterstrike when my friend wanted to play some matches the other day.
>>560710283>i don't really know how big her tits areyou basically got them perfect
what if the team who's behind could>temporarily store the urn somewhere safe for a few minutes>turn-in urn at Shrine for half soul bounty>had an alternative drop-off point
>>560742585>>560742286>>560741662I do wish carrying urn wasn't SO debilitating, not being able to parry alone is already pretty bad, it could atleast do the slowing hex thing of disabling movement abilities instead of outright silence.I had a friend run urn last night and it turned into a huge team fight that was objectively good for us>5 kills>21k soul lead>all our lanes pushed up to their base guardiansBut because he got crucified at the start by like 3 enemy ults he's now sworn off running urn ever.
FOR THE CAUSE
>>560742541That's peanuts after taxes assuming this waste of air doesn't have an actual job on the side (doubt he's making much from streaming Deadlock).He's probably hoping really really hard Deadlock becomes the next big thing and he becomes prominent just by being on the first people covering it.That being said, I don't blame him for taking advantage of people willing to pay for "coaching" on a game whose entire balance and design philosophy can radically change overnight, a fool and his money etc.
>>560743067Just have Urn be in their fountain if they are far enough behind. Even picking it up is an achievement in the current meta.
>>560743429>league player>league opinion
>>560710283>I don't really know how big her tits are but here ya goThey're slightly smaller than that but you got them perfect aesthetically.
>>560738952>SinclairJust finished my first game with him. He's fun, that'll do it.
>>560710283SEXOOOO
>>560743515>Heroes of Newerth stain speakingKnow your place
I think york sucks, ugly lane with shitty terrain that's not fun to fight in
>>560743725Just like in real life
Gun Abrahams>full bullet damage>max shoulder bash>shove people into walls then magdump>if this fails you die because it takes 6 minutes to reload
>>560743725>literally the coolest thing ever
how do i politely ask the person im shooting as mirage to not move away for 10 full seconds so i can proc 5 stacks of djins mark
>>560742814Yeah it's almost like the entire moba game design is fundamentally unfun and nothing can be done to fix it.Its almost like having a different type of game with rounds and a single objective would be more fun and a better experience. You know, like CS and TF2. Deadlock is a great game languishing under the weight of moba game design. The moba mode is millstone around Deadlock's neck and if they don't course correct soon the game will drown.
>>560744048slowing bullets + slowing hex
God I love Graves so much.
>urn sucks there needs to be more comeback mechanics>lets have another boss that gives more souls if we're behind!>enemy team comes, rapes you and kills the boss>lets have king of the hill type points that give money if you capture them>enemy team comes, rapes you, takes your points, rapes you again and laughs>lets have an urn at our spawn and you need to carry it from one shrine to another across your base>you take two steps, trip, fall, drop the urn, cry and piss yourself while enemy team laughsmaybe urn is not the issue after all...
>>560744083What if they walk behind cover
>>560743867>ballistic enhanc>close quarters>berserkerlet me guess, you need more?
What do I do when a fed Billy walks towards me pressing Q?
>justjumpstart>buyjumpstart>healbanejumpstart
>>560744081>like CS>like CS>like CS>like CS>like CSYou mean the game where enemy team can fuck you for 4 rounds straight forcing you to buy nothing just to afford gun and armor after "eco round"? that CS?
>>560744119Just don't have any of those things.
>>560744119Hear me outWhat if hero kill bountiesWere a fraction of the player's networthInstead of only scaling by timeThis way the guy up 20k souls is more rewarding to kill than the 0-12 monkey on your team.
>grab urn>never turn it in, just force the enemy to camp the turn in location while team pushes the opposite lane
>>560744260No the CS that buffed pistols so much eco doesn't matter.
Graves gun damage frel ultra lackbuster even in mid game. You guys lied to me and spirit graves is actually the way to go?
>>560744229*applies it again*heh nothing personal
Silver is very strong but wolf form is not what's strong about her and saying it is is a self-report.>Bola is a deadlier slowing hex>Slamfire is a health nuke >Kick applies melee items and is good displacement + kick up.Wolf form is meh unless the entire team is playing into it.
>>560744294They added this to League and it was shit because 0/6 a guy with slightly good farm was worth more than the 70/0 S tier champ abuser
>camp the turn
>>560744467That's literally what Dota uses right now.
>>560744467Sounds like the issue is the League audience being pissed they cant just solo win the game every time
>>560744081Yeah bro ignore that the most concurrently played games in the world are mobas.Deadlock is going to die under it's moba mechanics.
>bounce pad can be used while sliding without momentum loss>crackshot is now 3 headshots (damage decreases, hitting 3 in the same guy stuns him briefly)>ult can be alt-casted to hit teammates (doing so gives it increased range and lower cooldown)i fixed your character, enjoy the 60% winrate
am so fucking tired of the dogwater matchmaking giving me beginners against cunts who clean your jungle in a sec. Why do I ALWAYS get piled on whenever I dare try to push while they got free reign when I stop jannying for just a sec
>>560744446I've thought her human form is stronger than her wolf form ever since they buffed the fire rate
>>560744048build greens and unga bunga run at them>its past 30 minutesbuy ricochet and sit in the backline hoping they decide to slowly poke instead of properly committing
>>560744048If they leave you take the resources/objectives in the area. Until you have boundless spirit minimum your marks aren't worth shit for damage against anybody with a brain. The only kills you should be getting generally (outside of team fights) is when you bait somebody to chase you while you mark them, and then when you get to 3 marks you can turn and flip the fight on them. You basically have to suck them into a bad fight. You could build chase items like slowing hex/ warp stone etc if you wanted to play aggressive, but you'd simply get better results from the same items playing a real chase or gank hero like Lash or MoKrill.Mirage is about controlling the map long enough to become a late game threat. You poke an objective then teleport away when people come to fuck with you. Or you teleport away from farming to defend objectives and hold walkers for a long time. Eventually you become fat enough that even if people have to run from you, you are killing their base anyway and winning.He still isn't the best carry though regardless.
>>560744229>lets pivot from a niche that only we control into space where we have to compete with two giant gamesgreat idea anon!>>56074429450k souls victor will continue raping you.Team that works together better will continue raping you.You will cry regardless, and if they Overwatchify the game you'll still cry because you're simply shit and need to blame the game for your lack of skill.
>>560744446wolf form is just to instantly slam 3 extra abilities worth of burst to confirm a kill
So Pocket's briefcase is a type of Pandora's box he stole from his father so that it wouldn't be weaponized/mass produced for his company?
>>560744260Yes
there's quite literally nothing wrong with urn. stop trying to fix what's not broken.people are trying to project their losses on a lack of comeback mechanics instead of just humbly taking the L
>>560744446Silver needs to be reworked into a state where both her Wolf form and Human form are strong but you can only build towards one.>Build human formUseful much more often but with lower highs, with wolf form being only a heal/escape/confirm>Build wolf form1v3 potential but you have to earn it and you're useless and squishy as hell in humanThe issue is that I can only see this being possible if they make wolf a spirit thing.
>>560744624Because they're built on addictive mechanics. If you ask your average dotard or leaguetard if they have fun they'll just look at you weird, if you tune into most streams it's just salt. The fun parts about the game are the movement, the shooting, abilities and the character's personalities or designs.Put them in arena deathmatch and you'd have an objectivelly better game but not a successful one because it lacks the addictive factor.
>>560744426No, spirit Graves is even worse.
>>560743867Your kinetic dash??
>>560722706Pregnant McGinnis
>>560744624But that's not true. Roblox and Fortnight are the top two games. And you didn't address the fundamental problems with present in the moba concept.
>>560744870No, Pocketdad tried to kill his retard son because he was turning into a they/them, possibly as a result of the gay frogs. Pocket then absconded with gay frogs and tried to bullshit some moral explanation later whilst sucking off hobos
>against silver in lane>she just stomp both of us>its super op>its actually rem giving them ultra inmortal creeps and healing her for a gazillion health
How to fix urnWhen (You) grab the comeback urn, giant flashing letters appear on your teammates screen saying YOUR TEAM IS RUNNING THE COMEBACK URN
>>560744986there's always a reason for some peopleget mad, blame game
>>560722706silver actually doing her laundry
>>560744870I saw someone post their fanfic idea that the suitcase contains the plagues of egyptbretty cool
>>560745045This. Deadlock has some amazing aspects and the moba elements are the only major detracting factors. They have already repeatedly demonstrated their profound misunderstanding and inability to balance around the moba game, and that mode itself is not fun. So abandon it and make payload mode/team deathmatch/CTF and enjoy your games massive success.
>>560744986it's boring>walk from point A to point B>either get gangraped on delivery or nothing happens
>TF2 fags crossposting
>>560745045>arena deathmatch objectively betterwould remove the laning, skirmishing, objective, and farming gameplay which is what diversifies it from TDM/TF2 gameplay and is one of the major appeals of the gameyou're not a good game designer lil gup
>>560745307Also the enemy team is stunned for 30 seconds to make doing it possible
Just make urn give half/quarter/no souls and no buffs to the dominating team.The only issue with urn is that it lets people stomp harder and comeback being slightly closer to base doesn't actually really help at all.Urn should only be worth running just to deny the enemy team getting comeback urn.
>>560745045i think you are objectively a retard kill yourself
>>560745045TRVTHNUKE
>>560745505>boils objectives down to the procedure and the outcome>he doesn't think about map movements and isn't engaging with the macro gamenpc
>>560737060metro's carry build has served me well
>>560745794>only issuethe bigger issue is that its an shitty objective that is no fun
>>560745505holy seeker
>>560745045>>560745472Yeah... yeah...We should abandon all the moba aspects of deadlock.And since we're not a moba anymore we should just get rid of abilities and cut down the characters to around... 9.And instead of heroes/ritualists we should just label them as classes.And instead of 6v6 we should double the player count to 12v12.Now we've got a team based game where both teams have a fortress.Let's call it... team fortress 3...
Haze has the highest skill ult in the game.
>>560745998
>>560745684>laningBusy work>objectiveJobbers you have to babysit>farmingOver and over and over for almost always the same items every match
>>560745881i know your boyfriends post need suppoet but you could do better than that, little faggot
>>560746142you realize everything in a video game is made up artifice right?
>>560744375good idea I'm gonna do it today
>>560746204But it can be fun instead of stressful :^)
mina... ha...
>>560744375>allies are too stupid to push the lane opposite of the drop off location>they proceed to trickle in one by one like lemmings into a meat grinder
>2 kills in lane>my teammate with 0 kills has 500 more souls than me somehowHow tf do you get ahead in this game, if I kill someone I feel like I should at LEAST have 500 more souls than my partner or the person I killed
>>560745970>boils objectives down to the procedure and the outcomethat's what everyone does to actually analyze something, yes, unless you are a retard, which you are. urn by itself is a shittier ctf objective>doesn't think about map movementswhat map movements nigger? 99% of the time people either take the straight path to it or just take it to their side until it's safe. The 1% that does some schmovement shit are the outlier, you retarded tranny
>block all my local servers so I can play on NA>first match has all 12 players talking on all chat>lane partner is a cute girl (male) constantly making shots>skill level is blatantly higher than on my regular matchesIt's actually insane how much better you people have it, I guess being able to communicate with people on your region does make a difference.
>>560746043Some people really are just desperate for a new 12v12 casual shooter where they don't need to think and just pubstomp koth_harvest on soldier with their medic bf.>>560746548If you died you missed farm.Early game kills aren't worth that much to you, but it denies farm to THEM. That's where the value of lane kills are.Also your teammate probably hit boxes or camps while you were dicking around in lane waiting for the next wave.
>>560744375and then you lose the skirmish because the other team isn't dumb, is ahead and yours is missing one player that its too busy only holding the urn
>>560746631>thinks map movement meant moving around the map and not how people position and how you can leverage thatnpc with an unstrategic mind
tf2 was based until I learned about the genderswaps
>>560746637>average NAtranny sucking his own chopped off micro dick
>>560744446Wolf form is so bad you're better off not putting points in it at all
Silver is a dogshit ritualist.>New patchnotes>Silver: Buffed cup sizeOkay NOW she's OP.
>>560746898>map movements and macro gameso you were being redundant or you are too retarded and don't know what macro means, got it, you stupid transexual
>>560747105>he thinks the macro game is just positioning and isn't also economicnpc
Silver is actually trash and if you think she's good you're trash.
>>560747240that's just stupid and a pathetic attempt, you are one retarded transexual
>Start dating Silver>She seems more energetic, happier, more willing to take care of herself>ShavesFuck
>abrams>no&skill>victorRetarded deadlock devs have no idea how to make a tank work in this game
>>560745125>start every engagement with 2 less stamina barsMetaslave bait.
>>560747513>has nothing to say>repeats tranny over and overnpc
>>560745045Brainlet take, the entire point of a moba is that in a well balanced match you will have fun either way because of the escalating tensions and the rollercoaster of it all. If you do not, it just means that you are too retarded for that, the same reason you wouldnt expect a chimp to enjoy chess
>>560747597It's more like one because by the time you need that stamina you've already filled 1 bar back up.Unless you need to escape immediately but in that case why the fuck did you dash jump in you retard.
>>560747567>tankits not overwatch
>>560747567We don't do tanks here.They're called frontliners.
still no fucking patch what are these devs on?
>>560747567victor is not a tank
I just brool because mobas are kinda boring to me and here are my thoughts on how to improve street brawls>Separate modesFirst goes all in on the aram formula and gives all random characters and items which would filter meta mongrels picking paige and alchemical fire every single goddamn game and it would retain the three point format while the second is like a bite sized version of the moba that lets the game play out from guardian to patron and you get souls by killing troopers and taking objectives>New mapFittingly for the street brawl name I think a smaller and more claustrophobic map with some surrounding buildings you can run inside for cover or above for high ground would be neat and allow them to create a different experience and atmosphere for this lite ritual>RebalancesREMOVE AOE CANCER or rather just limit it to the default skill values because paige paradox and ivy can cover the whole lane with their shit and completely trivialize troopersI can't think of anything else right now but yeah
>>560745537Im a former TF2-fag, but I am all in on Deadlock now and have been since late 2024.I tried playing TF2 again after deadlock but I can't. It's too dated and slow.
>>560748084true, hes a zombie
look
why does this general have so much ship posting
Games in alpha with constant map additions and constant changes.. yet people asking for a completely different new map to brool on? Lmao.
>>560748128Aram at least in hots, never played league or dota, gives you three random heroes to pick from so there's some agency.>>560748236Autism
>>560744841If you could cancel it early it would be fine unironically but everytime I wolf out either:>I just full comboed someone and killed them so I just stab troopers or junjle creeps until the transformation wears off>I'm in a teamfight and I'm about to have all my range obliterated in exchange for becoming a CC magnet to the entire enemy team
>>560745684>remove the dogshit/boring/mindless/afk parts of the gameGreat?
>>560748223
>>560748236faggots unironically, thankfully once the game releases the 3rd worlder flood will wash over them and push them out like in cs2/dota2
>>560747532>just tell her that she can keep the pubic hair>eventually she will let grow as long, short or trim it in any shape for youit's a win-win
>>560748236I only care about Silverx(You)
>>560747807>>560747910nta but the nomenclature just works. I know overwatch sucks dick, but until valve decides to give real character descriptors instead of "Bull headed", "G.O.A.T.", etc. I am just gonna tag them as what I see them doing. Sure, Abrams is on the frontline but that also means he tanks a lot of damage and is ok with doing so. He's a tank hero. I'm not calling him a frontliner ritualist and I am not buying the fucking egg.
>>560748423imagine the disgusting smell
>>560746043>make tf3 with deadlock movementWould be a cool game, I would play it. But actually I like the abilities and cast a lot. The characterization in Deadlock is the best of any game out there. The setting is stylish and fun. It's just laning/farming/power creep that makes it lame and unfun.
arena shooters/deathmatch type games are dead because they are the most brain dead 0 brain activity ass games.>just run, gun, die, respawn ad nauseam>no decision making or strategy of any kind involved>every match is the exact sameliteral poser genre just like fighting games, people will tell you about how much they love them but never actually play them.
>>560748497no, i already fapped to that
>>560748473>>560747807>>560747910>>560747567I'm reminded of that random game an anon spectated where the 0-12 graves was seething at their abrams for "NO PEEL NO PEEL JUST PEEL FOR ME" when abrams was like carrying so hard 12-1 and him and geist won the game for her.
>>560748473using overwatch language encourages overwatch thinking which is a bad thing because overwatch has the strategic depth of a puddle and you don't want anyone on your team to be holding W alone down choke points into the entire enemy team's attention
>>560745019This would be assThe real issue with silver is that her normal form and wolf form play so differently, her normal form is M1 with some CC while her wolf form is a melee-only initiator.And it's frustrating when I'm doing well in human form and the game reaches over and forceably mashes the key on my keyboard to make me a worse initiator than billy.
>>560748128Oh also guardians and walkers should be more of a threat considering it's 4 niggas in a single lane because diving is very easy very early>>560748287In league you could reroll but there were a limited number of rerolls and you could have more of them if you didn't reroll in other matches or something it's been a long time since I touched that game
>>560748631name 5 dead games like that
>>560748631Explain the success and popularity of brool.
>>560748758why did they draw her with powerlifting shoulders
>>560748631fighting games are 10x more alive than arena shootersstreet fighter and tekken never truly died and there've been some other hits in the last few years
>>560747567>>560748473This game doesn't have roles the same way overwatch does and getting into a mindset of "DPS, Tank, Support" will lock you into some very misguided mindsets.Especially when those 3 roles aren't really enough, and there's a big difference between an assassin, supercarry, and nuker despite all of these being something of a "DPS".And that's not even getting into how different builds change how a single character can function between games.I do think the valve tags aren't super helpful but I don't really mind because you should be reading the abilities of the character you're playing anyway to see how they function.
>>560748631Fighting games are popular tho? Look I'm not saying moba mode has to get deleted, you guys can still have your mode and map. I'm saying it needs to be de-emphasized in favor of more fun and engaging modes. Idk how you guys tolerate forced 50/50 plus this dogshit balance patch, but I for one cannot and will not a 6v6 until it is vastly improved.
>>560748631But why were they so successful during a time the average PC user was smarter?
>>560748631>people already replying to this, being contrarians saying "umm ackshually fighting games aren't cooked"that's how you know this post is correct lmao
>>560749092>just rework this game that I hate from the ground up to make it more appealing for menigger just play something else then? how low iq are you?
>>560748810NTA butsplitgate (gonna be nice and not count the sequels)quakehalo infiniteare all pretty much dead and I haven't even heard of any of these names anymore besides people going "What a waste."I can't think of anymore because honestly, nobody is making them anymore.
>>560749092>it NEEDS to be [pandering to me specifically]seems a bit low IQyou realize both can and already do exist right?
>>560747567This. Not every tank character has to be a self-heal lifesteal monster. Let's do a quick rundown:>abrams: aura siphon tank>Victor: aura siphon tank>tank Calico (aka the dark times) : unkillable escape artist with self-heal>tank Geist (RIP): siphon tankThey keep reinventing the same exact tank type and it is stupid.
>>560749092Ok kill yoirself why do i fucking care if you play or not
>>560747567'Bruiser' is a far more accurate termit's not so much about tanking damage as it is being an extremely beefy brooler
When are roles getting implemented? Im already at the point that the team with the best composition wins.
>>560749342Never because of characters like Ivy where both gun and support ivy builds are viable and queing up support just play gun ivy sounds like cancer.Deadlock just doesn't like having hard roles.
>cage T5 silence>web pull backwon bigly
>>560749342here's your roles so choose wisely>spirit nuker>spirit nuker>goo punch>spirit nuker
>>560749212>>560749284You guys are angry because you know I'm telling the truth. 6v6 isn't fun right now and maybe never will be if they can't figure out balance.Giving alternative modes will kill 6v6 and that's a good thing.
>>560749486>from tier 1 items immediately into tier 4 items>4 open slotsWhat the fuck are warden builds man.
>>560749326I accept your concession.
I just watched a wraith player leave the lane on the 2 minute mark to do boxes, never to be seen again until like 20m. He bought movement speed items, did every single fucking box on the map, ignored everything else and by 20m he was top souls in the lobby and continued to do goddamn boxes. By 25m he had 4.2k hp, a fuckton of statue buffs, 40k souls and raped everyone. Is jungling actually viable? Eternus IV lobby btw.
>>560749678post match id
>>560749616I sold something that I can't remember
>>560749678I thought that's how wraith/haze are supposed to be played? fuck off until they're hitler while your team buys you time.
>>560747807shut the fuck up retard, you know what they are
>>56074979366721194
>>560749678Unless you're making money out of it, it comes to a point where you shouldn't be asking "is it viable" but "is it fun"
>>560749678i've been noticing some players do this shit aswell recently and they've also had retarded soul leads. i swear it feels like they buffed crates or somethingbut yeah would love if you posted matchID
>>560749678I do this shit all the timeif your lane partner seems incompetent, you're actively gimping yourself staying there
>>560749678>Is jungling actually viable?Creeps are a meme because boxes are unironically so much faster to do and scale better that there's no reason to poke creeps.Every once in a while some ubersweat will come and steal my tier one camp and I don't even bother contesting because they're spending so much time(early game damage) to get the same amount of souls 3 troopers could give.
>>560749678yeah i know this nigger he does this every fucking match and basically leaves his team in a 5v6 for 25 minutes until he either gets farmed like this or gets caught everytime and does nothing
>>560749616It's a stupid build.However, when the hero you play has something they can do with no items, there are like one or two actual threats in the match, your teammates are always close by and you're ahead in souls, anything works.
If they put ivy in dota I would never touch this garbage
>>560747597If you all in it basically doubles your mag size, if they're not dead after that you picked the engage wrong
>>560750071I play a lot with friends and the amount of times I have to beg them to clear an advancing wave right next to them while they're wasting time in some camp is despair inducing.
>>560747597...you're using the reload at the start of the fight?use it when you're already in a fight and chasing someone you dumb bimbo
>>560749840You're usually supposed to do lanes too yes, but you're not supposed to COMPLETELY fuck off forever. You still occasionally participate in teamfights.
>>560749678If what you are saying is true then I don't see why you couldn't just have a dedicated jungle role in this game, especially with how easy it is to rotate for ganks with movement tech.
>>560750392this>see two people fighting in the map>drops everything to rush in>walker is now at 50% hp because 5s to clear a wave was too much time
>>560737060You NEEEEEEEEEEEEED to abuse slide infinite ammo on graves, if you don't you are basically playing a completely different hero who is so much worse.I cannot put into words how important it is for you to abuse the infinite slide ammo on graves.
>>560737060>>560750532+1ing graves slideShe burns through ammo so fast and takes so long to reload that not sliding will fuck you in like 80% of fights
>>560750532>fleetfoot + burst fire + enduring speedthose who know, know!
>>560750476the Patrons don't want you to know this but the souls in the crates are freeyou can just take them
>archon = crown>phantom = skeleton ghost>ascendant = sun>eternus = le biblically accurate angel all make sensebut then...>oracle = goat????
Lore-accurate Warden remodel when?
>>560750476He quite literally didn't even gank. I don't think he could do it with his early game items anyway.>>560749917Posted the match ID here >>560749854
>i dont like the moba>i wont play brawldoes /dlg/ even remember it exists?>>560749529do you play brawl?
>>560751478he's one of the lamest heroes as-is
>>560751561nta but i am the only brooler in /dlg/ (i'm new and too bad to try the moba mode without ruining the game for everyone else)
>>560751720A secret about brool that brool haters don't want you to know is that a mode that forces you to interact with random items and only takes 15 minutes is great for learning a shitload of items and characters quickly.
>>560751478B goes hard
>>560749324Play doorman as a late game tank/healer by keeping a door open in your fountain at all times
>>560714718Sorry but you're a retard. This is the actual distribution. S tier items are things so oppressive the enemy cannot play the game. Haunting shot is mediocre 10% hp damage and a slow. In the time it takes to cooldown you should have already killed the enemy on any m1 character. Your ranking on Nullification Burst and Piano tell me you're some pisslow who has never bought a single disable item in your life. 2 AOE abilities that disable movement entirely is one of the best things you can roll. Cloak hard counters everything in the mode period. Immunity to CC on an extremely short cooldown is objectively broken. I have no idea how you could even think gauntlets is close to S tier. By round 5 you'll never have a chance to punch anyone to get any value out of that item. It's like you got raped by a high rolling Abrams once and now praise it as if its your religion. Never cook again you stupid nigger.
>>560748674>>560748986Fair, I think most of the deadlock specific descriptions that the community has are valid, but at least some characters fall into the standard archetypes imo. I'd rather say "here's what playstyle is generally effective on this character". Only going into the specifics if someone wants to sink their teeth into the character, which any helpful guide would do anyway. At least until valve figures out what they even want characters to do since it seems like every balance patch changes what abilities/items are even worth investing ability points/souls into.
>>560752012Piano sucks ass
>>560752137It's an aoe slowing hex that stuns you if you don't move out of it in a 1 lane death ball game mode. You're also retarded.
Storing time
>>560751561Yes, a lot. Exclusively in fact.
>>560752137Piano with cdr is the most unfun thing to play against.
what exactly is the warden's deal anyway
>>560752469I once got enhanced piano and it was the 2nd most fun I ever had in street brawl most fun was enhanced shrink ray
>>560749324Thank you for being the only one to engage with the point instead of retard screeching because I said the word tank.I don't think the problem is that they all have aura siphons, just that their HP is too high and their healing is too fast.
>>560752137Piano is hilarious it makes me laugh every time
>>560752134>some characters fall into the standard archetypes imoTo an extent, but its still bad practice. Like yeah you can SAY Abrams is obviously a tank and that's a popular playstyle with him, but up until the recent patch the Abrams meta was to play him like a fucking assassin that jumps people and does 2500 unavoidable damage instantly.And you can say "Paradox, Doorman, and Sinclair are supports" and that's true, but to an overwatch/rivals player that means "Oh they're supposed to build healslut" when it actually means "They CC the enemy so they can't play the game while you rape them to death" which is more what you'd expect from Tanks or DPSes in those kinds of games than a support.
>>560752615Objectively correct. Shrink Ray is the most fun item in the game, especially enhanced with CD. having 4 micro heros bully the tallchads is so fucking funny. I literally can't stop laughing when it happens. The item is a nightmare to play against and should never be a real thing
>>560752319It's so fucking slow, I've never been hit by it
played a game of holliday after a 3 day break and the game still feels awful
>>560752789I don't care about your anecdotes. Just because you're some seeker retard who plays against drooling animals too stupid to combo piano doesn't make it a bad item. Stamina removal aoe stun and 2 seconds of disable afterwards is a retarded combination.
I like Celeste's mobility but her kit is pretty boring since all you do is spam 3 all game
>>560752816Holiday requires decent aim, top tier movement, some parry awareness, and enough macro to decide to initiate a fight with ult, or to save it for a reaction to dynamo/lash ultMentally exhausting compared to every other character
>>560753114and you also need to buy supp items because of course your retarded teammates won'tshe was fine before the patch but not now
>>560753068It's only good against shitter retards that can't walk out of the extremely telegraphed and slow as shit animation
>>560752624To me this is just another example of the difficulty/impossibility of balancing a scaling game. The lifesteal/aura/self heal abilities may seem balanced at certain early levels but they go crazy quickly.
>>560753090You are supposed to float around in the air and waste the enemies time trying to catch you"Dazzling"
how do we fix them?
>>560752816>played a game of hollidaythat's just how it goes. she's not completely useless but you have to be so on point from the start that a few suboptimal plays in a row puts you in hell and you are just basically not present in the game until it's over.
>>560752615Shrink ray is so hilarious I can't even be mad when I get killed. It's so fun and funny. The high pitched voice lines are the cherry on top. Brawl is the best.
Sinclair's model and run animation is comically bad, when are they changing them?
>silver on teamI love losing before the match even starts, thanks yoshi!
>>560753445Increase the tier 2 damage on powder keg by a lot
>>560752012>130% heavy melee distance with a unblockable>d tier
>>560753445>MirageLower CDs>ShivSpirit scaling on alt-fire knockback and slide distance>HollidayLet her barrel actually do fucking damage and remove the cooldown on her passive because a passive with a 20 second cooldown is retarded.
>>560753725I wouldn't put it in D-tier, but its not as great as you'd think because spamming heavies means sitting in melee range getting lit the fuck up.Good on a character that builds melee anyway but I always roll that shit on a spirit damage build/character.
>>560753445just proves that they take too much iq to play and only people shitting the bed with them are people who havent fully grasped the game
is there a mod that allows you to only put the game music down and not sfx? i wanna listen to my own music already
>>560752779I had to play against a Victor that got shrink ray.It was the worst shit ever. Worse than the day I went to school with no pants on
>>560753725It's objectively shit. Melee distance is the only good stat on there and any of the other higher ranked items would be getting you more kills than this one. It has no disable, no CC virtually no damage. By the time you heavy melee once any other 12slot character kills you.
>>560753445>miragecan't fix this boring retard unless they focus on the djinn and make her bratty
>>560752779>>560752615>>560753483once had an enemy abrams just give up when he saw my team with shrink ray.
>feeds 12 kills>abandons the gameyou love to see it
>>560754126It's the correct thing to do. I've seen the item total arouns 15 times and it's only ever lost once to an all spirit team. Anyone who has to aim is fucked.
did i miss the new thread or what
>>560754235aim shitters can land souls, perfect headshots, but lose their mind when they have to shoot something running on the ground? reminds me when m1 fags cried how LOW abrams slide is
>>560749678watching this shit is an unbelievable gamblethere's multiple times where he steals boxes deep in enemy jungle, and boxes from his own mid and side lanea single death during this world tour bullshit would end the entire game for himat 5min, he's even on souls because of egg, but by 10min, he's so behind on souls that he has comeback passive souls.also, mother side doubles being up and unsecured at 10min is WILD for an eternus game. this strategy dies to a well-timed gank when you here someone other than your lane partner breaking your boxes and doing box routes yourself.idk crazy to believe this shit is eternus 4. there's so much shit wrong with this match. also slowing hex ffs. prevents escape and prevents her barrier. multiple times where she would have been a sitting duck if someone (besides haze, who sidelaned the entire fucking game) if someone just threw slowing hex on therefuck, there's one point at 15min where buff spawn, haze goes for mystic buff, she knifes wraith with vin there, has slowing hex AND height advantage AND ult off cooldown, and just doesn't collapse on her? even after getting buff? come the fuck on man. again, one after 10 minutes blows this strategy up.
>>560749342>roles>1>2>3>4>5>6
Well, now that thread is over I need to tell you all Abrams is built for raw gay sex with me where I yank his tail and we give each other sloppy kisses.
is nightshift today?
every new hour i put into this game i start to understand why battered wives return to their abusive husbands
>movement in 2024>movement now
>enemy wastes parry>charge up heavy melee attack>his parry is already off cooldownRemove rebuttal
>>560754793the heal and bonus damage are already huge the parry cd reduction just deletes any interactivity and makes melee useless
We're about to fall off page 10. Gacha threads are being remade by the second. We need a new one NOW
>>560754893cant someone else do it
>>560754793just shoot them or use light melee instead
>>560753445Give Holliday some way to gain extra souls so I can get to the good part of playing her (actually doing damage to a carry with crippling headshot) before they get a chance to siege our base. She's an old timey western sheriff for crying out loud give her a bounty system or something. Give her vindicta's old ult passive
>>560753445>>560744663
>>560754893too busy jerking off to ivy someone else has to
>>560755371>>560755371
>>560754893123 not it
>>560754876I WASTED souls on a dead end counter item to your faggotry.
>>560744663>>560755143>ult can be alt-casted to hit teammatesMy favorite part of playing supports is snagging someone in a 3v1 out of certain death with rescue beam so I would actually love this change. Since it would still be a skillshot rather than target select I would have it give some resistance to the target you hit so you don't just blow your ult pulling a 100 hp teammate 20 meters to the left. Would also make ferrying urn runners way more fun.
>>560754467>roles 1-6what role would seven fall under?
>>560754793outplayed
>>560752012bad tierlist
>>560720818doesnt shiv have the lowest winrate in the gamen ow? how is that good?
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>>560754793???a missed parry is still a guaranteed heavy melee if you buffer it at the end of the parry window, you just don't get 2 of them, what's your problem
>hey guys check out my SICK late game mcginnis hypercarry buildOk ok ok but… what if they have victor?
>>560758303who the fuck is playing mcginnis as a hyper carryshe falls off so hard and she's basically a teamfight ult bot
