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Strike Team. Dance Contest. Now. edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>560631485

>Latest News/Updates:
Darktide:
‘Beyond the Hive’ is out. Patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions/119479

Vermintide 2:
Hotfix 6.9.2 patch notes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330

>Darktide Killers:
Space Marine 2
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
The Outlast Trials
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
John Carpenter's Toxic Commando
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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>>560748037
>edition
kek good job OP
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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I bet Hadron, Rannick, Morrow and KX being fun to listen to was pure accident. They would have prefered us to simp for the zola dyke or the baboons
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>>560748430
Zola had potential, but they ruined her during the Karnak Twins campaign. Throwing Morrow under the bus just to befriend Hallowette was the last nail in the coffin. You don’t disrespect your own team. This bitch ain’t loyal.
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>>560748430
IIRC they edited some of Hadron's voice lines to be less mean/demeaning towards the rejects at some point and that's around where she became more popular.
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>>560748751
the only time this cunt ever complimented us was to use us against Rannick too
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When will Fatshark patch the new Darktide edition so that Linux users have a chance of playing the new edition instead of endless loading screens?
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Has Anyone else still not received their twitch cosmetics? Does anyone know if reconnecting your account on twitch to fatshark might fix it?
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>doing minigame
>it acts like I just did an incorrect input when all I did was move the box
what the fuck is doing this, am I just missing something about how this minigame works?
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>>560749319
w key is bugged and validate instead of just moving the box


it's a known bug since the radio operator event
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>>560748814
I take it as character development, we've proven our competence at getting shit done, so she likes us now. She'd still prefer skitussy if she could get them, but she can't.
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>>560749225
The cosmetics are not even in game yet, I guess they'll add them next week during the hotfix
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>>560749507
Really? Fuck that's all kinds of dumb. Guess they forgot to add the game files.
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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Add for chill Darktide times 9566480975
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>>560749715
And that’s nothing. Why do you think there was only one Twitch Drops campaign at launch, and then nothing for three years? It’s because they had “lost the technology” and didn’t care at all. They only found it again about a year ago, since there’s no one handling influencer relations. That’s why Twitch Drops are enabled on random channels that don’t exist anymore or don’t stream Darktide at all.
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>>560749867
>do you end up getting more remnants later
there are more scavenge zones in the later grid points

also holy shit this is gonna take fucking forever lmao
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>>560750873
What's the title?
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>>560750909
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>>560750909
Radioactive paypiggy
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>>560748037
Rannick is so cool…
>>560749504
Seems reasonable. Wonder if we’ll get any new NPCs at this point.
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>>560751020
god that sucks, not even "Junker Queen"
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>3 auric expeditions
>first one fine, team pings, goes together, 3 zones clear
>second one randomly "your mission was aborted" during a site
>third one same
you know if the new mode was more stable it could be something, also put something in it that you can farm instead of just points to unlock new regions and it could be something
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>>560751058
Eldar ambassador soon...
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>>560751227
That's Swagger.
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>>560751285
Felinid wrangler soon...
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>>560751425
That's Retarded.
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>>560750391
IM SORRY I CRASHED
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>>560751480
Servitor keeper soon...
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>>560751796
That's Lame.
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>>560751881
Grendyls true form soon...
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>>560751956
That's Writefaggotry.
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>>560752021
Another african accent pilot soon...
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>>560752265
That's Jungle Fever.
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>>560752321
Another tech priest with even more vocal filters than the other 3 combined.
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>>560752487
That's Reddit.
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why do FUCKING RETARDS who dont know how to play this fucking mode, come to auric, in the hardest fucking zone, and then eat shit in fucking first of the zones, when they could be farming the same amount of shit in lower difs and not fucking ruin triple digit iq players runs
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>>560752571
Fine! I don't know! Put in some preacher dude or something like that guy in Whiterun just yelling all the time about the Emperor. How's THAT?
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>>560752830
That's the zealot.
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>>560752930
darktide but it takes place in warhammer fantasy and we fight the skaven
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>>560753221
That's the best /coopg/ game.
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>>560750391
Well I'm done with the mission. If anyone wants to play feel free to add or invite.
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>>560753221
That's vermintide.
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>>560752930
Put a pig mascot in near the shop. The more you buy the bigger it gets.
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>>560752830
anything you like is reddit
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>>560753462
But I like (You) anon. All of you, that's why I come here to /coopg/!
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>>560753587
not in front of the others kitten...
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As a woman, I think the next dlc class should be a sister of Battle(male)
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>>560753658
But this involves the others! They're ALL why I come here, even the ratfag.
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>>560753823
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>>560750874
They've been hiring for UE5. I think they're doing an engine swap and the old devs left for arrowhead, basically. I don't think close up shop is what's happening, rather they replace the entire dev team for chink corpo reasons.
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>>560753823
There're more than just one ratfag.
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>>560753942
The cacaratfag
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>>560754132
Show some respect, it was /coopg/ 's mascot during the VGL
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>>560753453
That doesn’t seem sanitary
>>560753942
False
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>>560754981
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SHUT
IT
DOWN
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Gotcha! Cacaposting will now end, FOREVER!
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>>560753892
Watch them not transfer any of the cosmetics
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>>560755676
Many tried...
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Are zealot twitch drops not in the game? I don't even see them with a mod that shows all cosmetics
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>>560756341
>>560749507
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I haven't touched Darktide since Arbites came out, how's the new chaos wastes? Worth coming back for?
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>>560756672
no
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>>560756672
Nothing but slop ever since the Arbites update. Except for the trench map, do that one and then uninstall.
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not even 24h in and theres already a meta of fuckwits running from one objective to the next as quick as possible
doing it the 2nd time and people just run off somewhere while i fight 3-4 ragers bumrushing me, great
seems like you cant play this shit with randoms
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>>560756672
wastes is meh but Hive Scum is fun and there's a new cool map called no man's land
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I'd enjoy expeditions so much more if it didn't have a timer. I think the map is great.
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is it me or the social menu is dead? Can't see anything
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>>560752778
Sorry anon im a drooling retard and entitled to be carried on the highest diff to feel like im good at the game. People gate keeping H40 from me are criminals doing a hate crime. Updoots to the left fellow retards.
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I think the night modifier for expeditions counts as lights out progress
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>>560757893
This was my impression too. I hate timers on shit and I'm even a speedrunner.
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>>560758249
They were pretty clearly inspired by Helldivers 2 with expeditions, but having a 10 minute cumulative timer is way different than the normal 40 minute timer in HD2
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I was willing to give the mod a go but I thought it would end once you met Fagger, turns out no
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>>560758169
it does, got the pennance for it from the night mission
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>>560758859
>can't handle the swag
ngmi
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>>560749319
>>560749391
How the fuck does a bug like that exist??
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>>560759672
Sw*dish spaghetti code (and meatballs). They have a special talent when it comes to being incredibly shit at coding. It really is true that only Americans can program worth a damn, but only the autistic and greasy ones.
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>brooo infantry lasgun is a TOP TIER pick after the buffs!
>it's not
>brooo dog arbites is OVERPOWERED in expeditions
>it's not
will this man ever tire of hyping bullshit
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>>560759876
Sad but true. Burgers are our only hope…
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>>560760392
>dog arbites
>not overpowered in literally every content
wtf????
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Ok, so if I understand this shit correctly:

- When you drop down there are various points pf interest (do the letters actually indicate the type of event or is it just random shit?)
- Going to the Sanctuary adds 5 minutes to the timer but there is a hard cap of 15 mins and it also reshuffles the map, so it's better to leave it for last.
- Tech-remnants are individual (do they get pooled together at the end?) and if you die they are lost (although teammates can recover some of them).

So we got this mode where you grind tech remnants, so you can unlock more desert, so you can get more tech remnants. Did I get everything right?

Also, no word on a hotfix to fix the fail screen even if you extract succesfully, right? Because I'm not touching this shit again until they fix that.
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>>560760476
France
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>>560760652
ça
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>>560760652
What did the fr*nch even do worth a damn except hot cartoon girls?
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>>560760652
Name one french game company that isn't streumon or eugen.
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>>560760872
ubisoft
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>>560760872
Sandfall Interactive
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>>560760972
>it's true
wtf
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>anon fut niqué et violé
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>>560761203
surprise!
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>>560760872
Larian Studios
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AREUH IOU SPANISHE???
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France Baise Ouais
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Bien raison, Chef! On célèbre ça avec le plat national français? Tu va pas cracher sur un bon kebab quand même? moi en tout cas j'ai craché dedans!
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>>560760598
>Going to the Sanctuary adds 5 minutes to the timer but there is a hard cap of 15 mins and it also reshuffles the map, so it's better to leave it for last.
I mean you can't go back and do the available Points once you enter, so it's always going to be the last part of a section unless you're extracting or dead. Technically speaking. You do want to manage your time, maybe leave the first area before bigger swarms start forming from your team constantly engaging partols. Pubbies can't handle giant swarms and you won't be able to get the door open by yourself until 2 of them die because you need majority vote.
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the poster above is the cacafag and a fiché S
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>>560761796
>plat national français
The modern kebab is from germany.
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>>560757353
It really is showing up one of the game's oldest problems; too many people don't have a rear view mirror, or check other teammates aren't in too much shit. Couple that with some of the usual spawning bullshit and it's happy days.
I'm slowly getting into it more now that I (and more importantly, Joe Public) have started getting a handle on it; there's a foundation there but it's definitely lacking. I just can't quite articulate what it is.
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>>560761913
>putting german kebab and french kebab on the same level
Geh
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My only issue with expedition is the bugs.
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>>560760872
>streumon or eugen
meme
>>560760972
>ubisoft
shit
>>560761173
>Sandfall Interactive
shit
>>560761314
>Larian Studios
degenerate shit
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>>560760872
Ankama, as seen there. The women are top notch. >>560760847
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>>560762147
give us a good studio and don't say fatshark
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>>560762132
BUGS?
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>>560762410
>French president gets harassed by a sheboon calling his wife a tranny
>This has also happened to the former US president
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what was the point of making open maps if enemies still crawl out my ass just like in regular missions
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Imagine:
>new bug-shaped enemy that bugs your game if it hits you
>0.1% chance of aborting your mission on hit
How would this improve the game?
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>>560763118
we already have this in the game
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>>560762795
so they can pretend it's gamechanging and isn't simply yet another map
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Sometime I forgor 3/4 of posters here are fr*nch
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>reddit racism
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>>560763857
Hey that's not fair! I love french culture! I ate a couscous last week!
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>>560762410
>>560762792
We're not so different, you and I.
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what the fuck are gridpoints
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I already can’t find expedition lobbies
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>first free, real content since two paid classes
>no one likes it
if you still get excited about the next class after this, you're retarded
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man, I can't mechanicus class
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new mode is way too unstable
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Can't wait for the next class.
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>>560755676
Does this kill the rat?
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>(!)modifier: night
>it's just overcast and kind of blue
why
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>>560767347
After playing it for long enough to have completed the event, mostly to debug some mods I wrote since I was too lazy to figure out how to localhost a certain thing, killed two birds with one stone, expeditions have kind of grown on me. With a competent team, hauling ass and splitting into groups of 2 and efficiently looping around from the farthest point and then back to the door, is something I really enjoy. The challenge also feels appropriate on auric; difficult enough to where I have to actually try, but not needlessly punishing like havoc 40 can be. It definitely felt relaxing after playing havoc just before.
It's genuinely quite fun with competent teams, and it seems that I've reached a level where incompetents are filtered out, or simply haven't caught up yet.

The big caveat is >>560767929
It's massively unstable. I think I've had on average 1/5 missions abort, and I want to say 1/3 where at least one player crashed (usually twice back to back) in the trade section. Including myself, sometimes.
Also the fact that W sends a confirm input and thus bricks the auspex puzzle is incredibly fucking retarded, and whoever is responsible for this needs to be shamed and have their nose shoved into the slop like a dog that shat on the carpet.
Also on the subject of earlier speculations, they have straight up re-used the Vermintide AIDS tornado but it's a proper sand tornado now. The only new feature is the randomization, which is borderline pointless.

The overall instability BY FAR outweighs the fun and novelty, so my verdict is still mostly negative. I've had my fucking auspex disappear. I've had the compass break. These swiggers can't even pretend to have tested it, it's barely fucking functional.
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>>560768857
Not at first...
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YES PLEASE FATSHARK FUCK ME DEEPER IN THE ASS HMMMM I LIKE THAT
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>>560769078
Adding to this, today I found out that multiple people can do auspex puzzle at the same time and fight for controls
And sometimes server starts lagging so hard you basically can't control your character because you get rubberbanded a lot and your actions are canceled (meanwhile it doesn't seem to affect enemies who keep pounding you)
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>>560770290
>I found out that multiple people can do auspex puzzle at the same time and fight for controls
This is an old bug, which I assume has to do with both players using the prompt on the same serverside tick. If fatshark weren't completely fucking retarded, they'd add some kind of tiebreaker and arbitrarily kick the loser out. Unfortunately, they are indeed completely fucking retarded.
>sometimes server starts lagging so hard you basically can't control your character because you get rubberbanded
Also old, and somewhat expected with an influx of players hammering their servers that they presumably downscaled and didn't appropriately scale up for the incoming player count, due to utter incompetence of course. Could also have something to do with the "meta" of just hauling ass and kiting enemies Pied Piper style just to rush all objectives and then deleting the fuckhuge horde with a consumable, ogryn nuke, scum launcher, etc. where the server now has to calculate the pathfinding for a zillion units.
It's only a little surprising because the game usually handles havoc 40 well, and enemy density is actually higher there.

On the subject of rubberbanding/desyncing, there's some bug in the game that I can't quite describe, where getting timed out mid-join and having to click rejoin, can cause you to rubber band like crazy. I've had a small handful of runs where I half-joined and spawned in without an auspex or anything. I could see everything, but I was essentially a ghost because the server didn't acknowledge my presence for over a minute sometimes.

I don't think the claims of fatshark having lost all relevant talent and being a useless incompetent husk, are all but verified by now. There was also discussion some threads back about fatshark advertising this as "the most feature dense" update or somesuch nonsense just to tick off a corporate checklist, and, yeah. After having played it, it sure feels like that. A ton of underbaked small bites cobbled into one.
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>>560760847
Damn. That’s one area they excel at. Their women are super hot.
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>>560762406
cringe faggot shit
>>560762792
one was justified and based
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>>560771145
>I don't think
>are all but verified
I accidentally the entire sentence here. I've had a long day.
What I mean to say is that fatshark clearly suck cock and deserve to crash and burn, regardless of how much I enjoy darktide. Fire Sw*den, bring in the Chinese devs.
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>>560771734
The french have a certain artistic style
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>>560773112
>>560771734
This is japanese style though? You can tell because it has people lusting after a literal child.
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>>560773624
yeah, thats the french
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>>560760872
Weren't the guys who made Expedition 33 french?
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>>560769078
>the fact that W sends a confirm input and thus bricks the auspex puzzle is incredibly fucking retarded
I knew I wasn't crazy.
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Why couldn't they at least add some new weapons with this patch? Would at least make the boring ass gamemode at least a bit bearable.
It's been over a year since ogryn got a new weapon.
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>>560761314
>>560762147
Larian are Belgian
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>>560774402
Belgium is little France
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This mode is a fucking chore.
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>>560775338
It will just prove you're autistic. True Survivor proves you're lucky
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Why does /coopg/ hate it? It's tons of fun with a good community, the interaction with terrain is unique to the genre, procedural generation makes it thoroughly replayable. I get bored of tide games after about 40 hours but can play hundreds of bugclick.
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>>560777307
I don't think anyone hates it, they just got bored of it.
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>>560777307
Because Reddit likes it.
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>>560777307
What? We don't hate it. It's just very played out by now. The devs are also melanated and came crawling back after abandoning the game to shit out a roguelite.
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>>560773624
that’s a drawing actually. hope this helps.
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>>560750391
Going to log into Darktide in a bit if anyone would like to help level up.
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The valkyrie landing for extraction freezes most enemies under it. Don't think that's intended but it's interesting
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>>560775338
Surely they'll nerf it in 2 years, when barely anyone plays it
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>>560778101
The bone zone update wasn't developed by them, it was outsourced
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>>560780525
figures
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I thought they couldn't make a more annoying mode after Morepiss Trials but damn they really locked in for this one
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>>560760872
Amplitude. They created many musical masterpieces in the Endless series.
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>not even midnight on the EU server
>Expedition quickplay is already dead
LMAO what a fuckign waste of ressources bravo Fatshark
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kinda interesting how most enemies scale linearly as the difficulty increases but ragers become exponentially more obnoxious the higher you go
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>>560784187
BEFORE LIFE, DEATH
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>havoc 40 stealth zealot zooming all aroudn the map aggroing all the ennemies and basically ruining the game for everybody
what a surprise
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is it me or is hadron way less of a bitch in expeditions
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>>560785379
She has never been a bitch. Man up you fucking sissy.
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>>560785469
>. Man up
stop perpetuating toxic masculinity
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>sand tornado is fuckng silent
>stuck in it for 2 fucking minutes in a corner
>finally spit out
>trapper was with me in the tornado
>instantly nets me as soo nas she touches the ground

Please nuke Sweden a million time
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>>560785840
Kek
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>>560785840
>toxic masculinity
New hive scum name
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>>560786210
at least you didn't get invisible tornado like I did
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>mission aborted the instant the valkyrie arrived
kek
lol
lmao
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>>560789134
sorry I got no masozi mod
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>payday movie and/or tv show adaptation in the works
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>>560789939
no way lol
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>>560790353
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2034380806014054848
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>>560790474
>>560789939
Literally DOA. Not the worst idea but the concept just doesn’t lend itself well to a film. Maybe a series or something.
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>expedition on malice difficulty has the same reward as in auric
no seriously, are those swedes retarded or something?
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>>560790914
You could theoretically do it as a heist series where each episode is doing one heist from the mission list.
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sweden yes
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>>560790914
Surely it can't be that hard?
RIP Val
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>>560791494
This except darktide missions
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>>560791414
I think the node unlock currency is higher. But I suspect they know that most of their active playerbase already has everything they want maxxed out so rewards don't matter
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>>560790914
So the web series but with a budget greater than $50?
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I refunded Solasta 2, now I can oink out.

>>560762084
German hairy arms kebab is better. Everyone knows that.
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They should make it so in expeditions if you go too far from your team you just explode and the word NIGGER shows up on your screen like the you died message in dark souls. Then it kicks you from the match.
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>>560792876
Nah, imma do my own thing
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>>560790914
Do you not remember all the live action stuff they did for payday 2?
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>We have 5 minutes to get to the door because my team of shitters are being shitters and stopping to fight EVERYTHING
>We have two data capsule thingies with us
>We get ambushed by a patrol and a captain in a choke point so we fight, take him down basically as quick as possible
>I grab one of the canisters and book it to the door
>Where the fuck is everybody?
>Look back and they have BACKTRACKED
>To fight a Beast of Nurgle
>Two of them die
>The one left comes to the door
>Doesn't bring the other canister
>He brings two full patrols of Ogryns
>Another captain spawns on top of us
>The door opens, I book it inside
>Close the door, crushes the captain, awesome
>We have 5 minutes and 50 seconds for part 3
>Res the two dingbats
>Heal
>Game crashes

Anyway, here's what happens if you get resed while the sanctuary is loading in, pretty cool, fixed itself as soon as I walked into the sanctuary
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If hive scum fun enough to play as to justify the price tag?
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>>560794363
I quite enjoy mag dumping into groups of regular dudes with infinite ammo
It just keeps happening because getting kills increases your ability duration
And it makes you invincible to all gunfire, even snipers

Chem grenades are fun too, just watch all these dudes run in and explode
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>>560794363
I've had fun with it. It's nimble, the dual uzis aren't great, but a ton of fun to mag dump hordes of pox walker, poisons are neat, tox grenades and the rocket launcher are good and fun. But if you're short on funds, there should be a huge Darktide sale in May for Skulls Day.
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bros the expeditions is starting to burn me out. im the only one with a good build doing any dmg while having 3 shitters bitching at me while dead the whole run as i kill 90% of all enemies. the scoreboard split often has been me 800k shitters 100-200k on auric. im tired of carrying boss. and only 40k/240k tech relics collected. just gonna go play other games desu
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>>560791608
I started watching this but never finished it. Is it good?
>>560793626
>>560791883
That’s presumably what he was referring to yeah.
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>>560794363
If you want to play Zealot on literal roids, then maybe
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>>560795615
Yes, one of the best movies of all time for sure
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>>560790914
>heat, the movie that payday is based on
>the 53 ocean movies
>casa de papel series
>literally every heist movie and series ever
I dunno anon.
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I don't know how I feel about the thammer 40k. It does more damage now and is more usable but I still prefer rashad.
I don't think the damage was the biggest issue.
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>>560790914
Payday is basically a giant pile of movie references stapled together into a game series. It could certainly work.
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>>560796723
It could work in a parallel universe where Starbreeze is not fucking astonishingly incompetent even among their swedeslop peers.
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>>560796573
It straight up sucks ass
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The crashing is very demoralizing.
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>>560794363
when you hit 30 yes
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All they had to do was make chaos wastes again... What is actually wrong with this company
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>>560797260
I was hoping for Space Hulks myself
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man, I don't get what the devs were thinking with Toxic Commando. the open world concept is novel enough to keep me playing for a while but everything else mechanic wise is a step backwards from WWZ.
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Holy shit. Game crashes every fucking expedition. I've gotten 4 competent teams in a row, just annihilating everything only for the game to crash, every time, a little after leaving the sanctuary.
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Remember redshell, that kiked up profile tracking malware that Fatshark put into VT2?
I just found out that the head modding autist of VT2 and darktide (raindish) works at the company that made redshell. His company pivoted into AI powered data collection. He also was invited to Fatshark studios repeatedly for being a "good community member"
Just thought that was interesting. Retards bought redshell from the guy cause they're incestuous then it ended up causing extreme negative PR.
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>>560797074
Yeah. I'm climbing back to h40 instead, at least until they fix the mess.
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>>560796542
>the movie that payday is based on
Source?
>>560796723
That doesn’t really mean anything
They still need to make an actual competent film and not just fill it with references
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I'm trying to up my Darktide game and see how useful/useless I actually am, which Scoreboard mod do y'all recommend?
Also any other mod you think might help with this.
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>>560797568
Can you elaborate?
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>>560799639
The most popular one on steam
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>>560799639
scoreboard
ovenproof scoreboard plugin community patch
uptime
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>>560799949
*on nexus
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I’m so sick of joining lobbies full of hive scum and spending the whole match picking them up
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>>560803364
I can't wait for fatshark to continue buffing the strongest class in the game.
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>>560803876
And then it crashed in the Sanctuary again
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>>560804494
Crashed AGAIN
Seems to be any time I buy something in a Sanctuary
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>>560799737
the classes almost feel like an afterthought, 2 offensive and 2 defensive that each play mostly the same. and the the skills themselves are 70% filler; carry % more ammo, your one active ability lasts % longer, etc.
less variety in weapons since they don't have unique perks. they put in 20 guns but the difference between most of them is just ~10% in various stats.
and this is a harder to put my finger on but the average battle feels less dynamic compared to WWZ. think a part of it is that pyramids don't show until the very end of the level so there isn't that looming threat you have to plan for. each encounter is either a, easy sweep or utter chaos.
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>Still struggling to reach havoc 40 although I've made a lot of progress
>Want to hit 40 before starting next character but not many games available near my ability
>Oh I haven't done the malestrom penance yet
>4/5 done working my way through the 5th
>Waiting to push back a horde of bursters
>Vet just shoots them in the fucking face igniting every burster spawned inside the door spawn and out on me

Very cool
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>>560806241
>retard thinks he can push bursters inside a door and not get hit
you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
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what can i do here?
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>>560806745
ah this is meant to be used with scoreboard im stupids
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>>560805946
Hmm, thank you. I still might give it a try when it goes on sale. Maybe by then it'll have some game changing updates for the better.
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>>560807034
oh don't get me wrong, I still think it's worth the price. especially if you have a squad of friends to play with, I just expected the refinements from WWZ to carry over.
and it's already discounted on steam if WWZ is in your library but get that first if it isn't. it's $10 on sale.
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>>560807780
Ehh $10 off isn't that enticing to me, I can wait. Will be easier to rope a friend into getting it too when it goes on a bigger sale.
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>>560805113
Probably a mod. Everything has been rock solid for me. But I did have to purge all mods and start over from scratch. I recommend using this as a basis for your mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/games/warhammer40kdarktide/collections/3l2bwi/revisions/239
Clearly a turbosperg. Everything is tested and updated for yesterday's patch. I haven't played for a year so was getting frustrated getting my old mods working. Decided fuck it and started over with this. Shockingly everything just works. Game has changed A LOT since I last played which was like... 18 months ago. Really digging Hive Scum. So fast. And with the BetterMovement mod I feel untouchable. What's the deal with all the new fucking minigames anyway? Shit is annoying.
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>>560806241
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but the vet was right to do that
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>>560806745
>>560806891
I don't recommend Power DI as it stands. Not only the gui sucks but I'm fairly certain it has a memory leak.
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>>560808687
any alternatives?
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>>560809759
Pen and paper
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Does melee damage count as "close range damage" for Quick and Deadly?
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>>560811109
Yes
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>>560811851
Thanks for reminding us about what we didn't get
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>>560810695
i will try this now
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>>560811851
Thanks.
Do you think I can fix her?
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>>560771145
>It's only a little surprising because the game usually handles havoc 40 well, and enemy density is actually higher there.
Exactly, in new game mode this shit happens at very low mob density. Maybe patrols are at fault, idk
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>>560814301
>Maybe patrols are at fault
SURELY they wouldn't be, because SURELY they would just code the pathfinding for the leader, and then snake-congoline the others behind, considering how retarded their movement already is
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>>560814376
It kinda feels like a bandwidth problem. Maybe pathfinding is not a problem, but sending all that data to the client is.
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>>560814472
That should in theory not be a problem either. If they implement a fully deterministic way for the trailing enemies to predictably follow the leader of the line, the server only has to relay the leader's positioning until the players are close enough to see, aggro or otherwise interact with those enemies. Just give them some internal ID that toggles them all to "live" mode when any one of them is interacted with. This isn't exactly rocket science.
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>havoc 37
>accept smoke vet because he has the balls to bring smokes
>switches to plasma krak
um...
I mean I can't complain but I'm slightly disappointed
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>>560814839
if you like 40k, it's an okay 7/10 game
of course get it on sale
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>>560815076
>reverse bait and switch
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>>560814839
It can be fun and a bit jank, not enough to bother but enough to notice it. It's by the same studio that made Divine Cybermancy.
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Are there any brotrauma parties in this gen? I would like to join one
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i have fun playing the videogame
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>>560816034
We dont play here
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>>560817046
Ah yes, the Latinx chapter marines
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why is every pubbie fucking retarded
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Because you aren't playing with us.
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>applies to your havoc game
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>>560818330
At this point I assume there are 50/50 odds pubs are playing drunk or high
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What happened to the Steam group?
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people in these threads love to claim that they hard carry every match and yet we haven't seen one shred of evidence...curious...
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>>560820465
explains why they dont want to play with anyone here
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Why is xe replying to xirself?
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>>560821042
post your latest 10 scoreboards bud
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>>560821150
Give me 11 hours. I'm at work
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So what build can I use to hard carry the event? Seems like if I can't solo clear shit, it's impossible to complete anything with pubbies.
I feel like I pull my weight with thammer zealot but pubbies are incapable of marking targets and walking from site A to site B, so they either wander aimlessly and trigger patrols or sit in one place doing nothing. And dealing with reapers that crawl out my ass can be a problem, stealth does not last long enough for them to fuck off and if I close distance to one reaper there's another one immediately spawning on the other side of the zone.
Is veteran really the way? I tried infantry las on zealot but it sucks.
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>>560821372
>I feel like I pull my weight with thammer zealot
Let me stop you right there, buddy
You are NOT pulling your weight as a thammer zealot. Please for the love of god keep your shitty little bonk stick out of my expeditions
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>>560821372
>So what build can I use to hard carry the event?
Same shit as auric, you just need a slightly longer range gun.
So, same dog arbitrator build that has been fucking raping aurics, you just switch your shotgun to the sniper one and put the weakspot blessing on it to 2-tap reapers at range.
Lone Wolf mines is GENUINELY VERY STRONG here, for once, so feel free to ditch the dog.
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I've done 3 expeditions and have not seen an ammo or grenade pickup yet. What am I missing
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>>560822354
You buy that shit from Swagger
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>>560797260
Again, they didn’t make CW, so that was never in the cards in the first place
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>>560777307
the core game is extremely solid but you grow to hate everything around: the community, the timegated overclocks, the dev abandoning the game for a Risk of Rain clone
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>>560824743
>the community
I think plebbitors are fucking loser faggots, but I haven't had too many bad experiences in the 900 or so hours I've played. The worst ones are just slavgroids being slavgroids but that will always be the case. The presence of friendly fire does somewhat encourage you to bring an absolute teammate NUKER in case some faggot decides it's funny to blow you up, but it's extremely rare that it becomes an actual problem.
Most players just play and have fun.
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>>560824875
depending on the scunt to light up the place is hell
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>>560824946
You learn to deal with darkness. I find it more frustrating when I have 3x the resources mined compared to the next player on FUCKING GUNNER.
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>>560825057
a driller excommunicated by a gang of corpos
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power fist when
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>>560825715
I'd kill for a knuckle duster weapon for the ogryn
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>>560805946
>>560807034
This poster pretty much hit the nail on the head. To go into slightly more detail the sniper (MK110?) is far and away the best weapon in the game since each shot hits 3 enemies and will body shot kill infected on the hardest difficulty with a single round and lets you clear POI's from extremely far away, with the Taiga 12 coming in second place due to being a drum fed full-auto shotgun with a 30 or 33 round capacity giving it horrific lethality and sustain but abysmal range limiting it pretty hard since most maps are wide open which makes it very difficult to funnel units without getting surrounded.
Third best weapon is the ACW-20 grenade rifle which is a utility pick since it gives some small splash damage and will perma stagger small special infected (god tier against Stalkers which are the biggest threat in the game) and can force a cooldown based stagger on large disabler units making it easy to free allies from their grasp. Every other weapon is practically identical to each other except for the other three shotguns which are pretty terrible for obvious reasons. I also agree that at $30 it's a pretty good way to waste some time but $40 is just a tad too expensive to recommend given how little gameplay variety their is to classes and weapons
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>>560705797
Francesca my beautiful beloved….
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ogryn chuds rise the fuck up
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>>560825776
lmao you are this starved of new coop
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>>560777307
Too White coded, upsets the browns
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Does anyone know what affects the order of operators on character select?
I want to make an arbie but I want my main to stay on top.
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I still haven't had time in this busy week to play the new slop, is the mode dead already or do I have a chance of getting a couple penances done if I try to play tomorrow?
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>>560777307
>before season 6
envy, contrarianism, a bias against things that are heavily enjoyed by reddit
>after season 6
they put the game on fucking life support for Rogue Core and now it's all hinging on rogue core being DRG 2 or this whole thing is going to turn into a fucking dumpster fire
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what causes the phenomenon where poxbreakers and true survivors play the worst out of anyone on the team?
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>>560826640
RETOOOOORNING for the update
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how do I tell my friend he plays like shit and he should stop blaming everyone else for his mistakes
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How do I get good teammates
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>>560777307
i enjoyed it when i played it but its not something i return to because the dopamine stream stops when i mine or have to traverse an annoying section of the map.
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>>560826478
RNG seemingly, there's a mod for it
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>Let your teamates die: the Achievement.
I strongly believe the average IQ in Swedistan is below 80.
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>>560826965
give him the silent treatment
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Expedition scum desperado with double barrel shotgun is the way. This is where the fun is.
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>>560826965
You can't help those people except by steering them away from a game that's causing issues.
>t. friend who thinks he's better at Arc than he actually is
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>>560826965
You can't.
They are a lost cause, and at best you can do is just let them die repeadetly and then just silently pick them up.
Don't criticize them, don't throw any shade at them, just stay quiet even if they shit talk you and let them stew in their own stupidity.
Eventually they will get it. Or not, at which point you're better off just not playing with them.
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>>560824875
Only 1 time I've had a shitty time in DRG is because I got kicked from a game. Played engi and got kicked for not shooting platforms under ore veins, I admit I was at fault, but I only noticed the problem once they started using the text chat and even then they did some 3 second count down before I could even react. However I've tried getting better about it and I now just pre-emptively shoot platforms under ore veins now and ping them myself.
And how I see it, I dodged a bullet with that team having them kick me 2-3 minutes into the game.
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>>560828752
Annoying your teammates with inattentive platform gun use is an essential part of learning Engineer. like C4ing the Scout is for Driller, except you're supposed to stop doing it eventually. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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>>560821554
I mean I do more damage than my teammates, kill crushers and bulwarks that the game spams, delete bosses that wipe the floor with my team everytime I don't bring thammer. And everyone else already brings lasguns to deal with gunners and bombers, I just can't get them to use their kits properly.
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>>560826965
they will not get better but they may stop bringing meme builds if they get to see a scoreboard at the end of every mission
as a main character they have to be on top
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It's crazy how even after 50 reworks Veteran's talent tree is still a mess of several useless + must-have nodes at the bottom
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>>560829681
>inb4 their telemetry suggests that enough people take [useless dogshit] and therefore it must be good enough because look at the data
>most darktards are fucking retards and also refuse to read
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Why are all menus locked to 60 fps now? Did the update enable some setting I have had disabled forever or is this a bug/feature?
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>>560829681
it's crazy how after 50 reworks nothing has really changed with how I build ANY class' talent tree. I don't know what they're fucking reworking because I've never felt it.
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I'm never using twitch drops because it looks gay and nigger, except for the shirtless ogryn one
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>>560830323
Seriously. I'm coming back to this game and I had to look up online to see if maybe my mods were messing up my talent tree somehow because I thought it looked suspiciously too much like the old one. Too many useless talents, too many "operative modifiers"
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we really still have a keystone that does nothing but give us +15% critical chance unless we spend on subnodes
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>>560748037
Is there a program for this game that lets us rebalance weapons to our liking like Helldivers 2 does? There's no anticheat so surely it must be easy
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>>560830409
Fatshark is genuinely bad at making talent trees. In Vermintide 2 theres a shitload of options that nobody takes, and they removed a couple of them that were actually useful. Ranger bardin used to have a talent that decreased his spread and made his shotgun actually useable, and slayer bardin used to be able to jump really really far with his ability if you took a certain talent, it was a lot of fun.
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>scum now has skullcrusher lite
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>>560830812
the shotgun is so bad now it's a travesty
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>>560830812
Why do we let these resentful faggots take away viable strategies and fun tools from us
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>Knives are now held backwards in the inventory screen
>All (?) weapons with physics objects tied to them are broken
How does a patch this small even cause issues like this? What sort of spaghetti code results in weapon models getting flipped when no changes were made to those weapons?
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>>560830821
extra lite. But they all add up.
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>>560830749
If you mean stat wise, then no. Weapons are stored by the server and not client sided, and have to go through a server check each mission start to verify what you're wearing.
The best you can do is custom view models and fov fuckery before you make the game spaz out.
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>>560830749
In Darktide? No, everything is server authoritative. We aren't even allowed to fix their bugs (ogryn not being able to vault correctly; basically changing a couple lines, that they are too incompetent to do themselves). Anything that the server didn't expect, rubber bands.
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>>560830952
>>560830953
Genuinely grim. Fuck live service. I guess I won't be coming back to this game.
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-1 cheater in my video game
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>>560830953
>We aren't even allowed to fix their bugs (ogryn not being able to vault correctly
I thought I was fucking something up, thank you.
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>toxic renewal doesn't reduce stimm cooldown anymore
Oh fuck you.
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>>560831342
Nope, you aren't doing anything wrong. Ogryn just has completely fucked ledge detection, and fatshark are fucking retarded. Looking at my attempt to fix it, ogryn's ledge detection range was 0.5-0.8 units, while it should be 0.31-1.3 units. As is, ogryn is literally crippled out of being able to jump some ledges at all, because of a bug, that has existed for years now, because fatshark are retards.
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>>560831436
Oh wait, I confused it with sample collector, which is higher on the tree now. How about that.
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>>560831503
Are you telling me they didn't take into account that the ogryn's body is bigger, so he bumps against the ledge sooner, before he's able to actually feel for the ledge to jump over it?
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>>560831925
I forget what the exact problem was, but it is on that level of retarded. I remember it being tied to the player viewport being higher because ogryn is taller, and I think it checks based off of that. I'd have to go digging in the source code again but I can't be fucked, since I'm not allowed to fix, the servers just rubber band you if you attempt it.
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>>560832025
You WILL enjoy the game like the developers intended
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>>560832386
Actually I'll simply not play ogryn.
Just as the developers intended.
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>>560829681
>>560830257
>>560830323
The biggest issue is that they refuse to buff shitty useless talents.
Like ogryn still has Won't Give In, and that piece of shit of a talent has never been touched since the LAUNCH of the fucking game.
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>>560832660
That's cold
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>>560832684
nerfing is higher priority
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>>560832684
>they refuse to buff shitty useless
Heavy sword buffs!
>includes nerfs for some autistic reason
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>test the heavy sword against crushers
>it's still rancid dogshit
Good job
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>>560833021
You're meant to use it on 0.01 HP out of 20 wounds on martyrdom zealot with FotF and perfectly hit a headshot every time, on malice.
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>>560833076
Woah thanks that totally worked!
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>>560830953
>(ogryn not being able to vault correctly; basically changing a couple lines, that they are too incompetent to do themselves)
I wonder if the retards at the studio actually even know about this bug at all.
Like I know they put that "Acknowledged" tag onto bug fix posts, but seemingly fucking none of them get fixed.

Like another example is ogryn ripper guns, their stability stat is actually inverted. Higher your stability stat, more recoil you get.
I wonder if this shit applies to all of the ripper gun stats, because it'd be extremely retarded if it did.
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>>560832684
The game is balanced around malice, sweaty.
Sorry.
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>>560833120
They probably know, and Sven already fixed it in their office build. However, none of them play ogryn, because they all hate ogryn, so when Sven inevitably ends up being retarded enough with version control to somehow upload an older, even buggier version, and then loses the fix upon deleting old branches, nobody notices.
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>have been playing other games
>okay, time to finally play darktide's new game mode for real
>expedition lobby takes a concerning amount of time to fill, requiring backfill after the mission has already started
>see this
guess not
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how do the jewtubers talk about the new mod?
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Is this build (for dual autopistols and shivs) correct for the new scum talent tree? I feel very confused and disoriented by the changes made in this patch since all that was really necessary I feel was nerfing pickpocket but they went and fucked the entire tree up for some reason
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fatshark will do anything but actually add new missions, it's uncanny
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>>560795819
I do like zealot.
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>>560833672
it's ranged hive scum literally existing is correct
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Yeah I'm sick of this bullshit. I'm going back to ratclick
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>>560833932
says local man who doesn't open the application
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>>560833120
>Like another example is ogryn ripper guns, their stability stat is actually inverted. Higher your stability stat, more recoil you get.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? FUCK OFF. the FUCKING time I spent rolling for decent shit and a stat is inverted? I shouldn't have read this thread god damn
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>>560834390
Expeditions aren't new missions
They're a separate gimmick mode you cannot get in havoc or auric maelstrom
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still no twitch drops?
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>>560834479
They are missions and they are new
Checkmate
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>>560784093
skill issue
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>>560834634
Skin issue (you're too brown)
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>>560833021
You don't get it, anon. It's SUPPOSED to be shit against CRUSHERS. It's the price you pay for being able to oneshot muties.
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>>560834874
t. shitskin thirdie blocked by every white man in the game so no lobbies to join
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>>560835243
I knew that would get under your brown skin
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cumskins getting real uppity
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>>560835243
You're slav, you're WAAAAAAY far from being white.
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>european posting hours
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>>560835271
>>560835304
>thirdie instantly triggered and starts sperging
too easy
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>Boris Ivanovich Putinsucky thinking he's not third world
Lol

Lmao even
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>>560835525
>Putinsucky
kek
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>>560835405
You're still a thirdie even if you have managed to get your brown ass to a white country, Dikshit
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do other classes have an equivalent to the plasma gun on vet? I mean like being able to effortlessly clear packs of crushers safely as well as a bunch of snipers and gunners from a far. I can sort of manage to get near the same level of clear on arb I guess, but I can't really seem to get easy mode like that going on zealot or psyker. haven't tried ogryn.
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>>560835956
For psyker that's the standard inferno staff shit with venting shriek, the only extra step with crushers is that you need to get 5 headshots on literally any enemy with your melee to trigger uncanny strike, but at that point your DoT is doing full damage to them and you can kill a theoretically infinite amount of them at the sane time.
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>>560814839
it's janky as fuck but worth it if you can get it on sale
I got about 20 hours of gameplay out of it
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>the best class for expeditions is a fucking mall cop for no other reason than having an extremely short cooldown knockdown, and a semi-spammable aoe stun, enabling you to solo objectives you shouldn't be allowed to get away with after kiting 3 horde-sized packs of armor
Incredible.
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>>560821801
Shock mines are also kinda unnecessary since you can just buy an equivalent in expeditions. But then, that goes for a lot of blitzes and doubling up on shock mines lets you skip lone wolf and still have plenty.
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>>560837673
And rebreather for all of the tox nades.
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>>560837673
And being able to just stand in ranged fire because your survivability is fucking busted when TEFL isn't involved
Playing Arbites in expeditions quickly feels like I'm playing Nightreign again, where I just know exactly what I'm doing and can do it by myself, and then my team just ends up following me
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You guys play follow the leader on expeditions or do the shot calling yourselves? Or do you roam solo?
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>>560833932
Feels like management interfering at this point.
I guess it is because a new gamemode looks more impressive on a company resume than just "upkeeping a regular gamemode"
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>>560834430
Ye it's real
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.fatsharkgames.com%2Ft%2Fthe-stability-attribute-of-the-ripper-gun-is-inverted-with-higher-values-actually-increasing-the-recoil-instead-of-reducing-it%2F118895
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>>560838470
I normally try to call shots and do things myself.
>do objectives in this order
>loop around the left and back to the door
>I'm going to [objective]
>this one is easy I can solo it / this one is hard, I need help
I've had mostly cooperative players so far. Best case scenario, I get another highly competent player that will solo other objectives. Otherwise, the 3 randos can probably survive without me if they made it as far into expeditions as I've gotten.
I also don't recall wiping every often. I did kind of just leave the game when there was an obvious retard in the first segment tho, so presumably those teams wiped. I'm not holding some retard's hand to the finish line.
>>560838124
>I just know exactly what I'm doing and can do it by myself, and then my team just ends up following me
See above, it's usually better to direct them elsewhere when you know you can solo, just to speed up the mission a little and perhaps squeeze out +2-3 minutes by the last segment and maybe get another objective in.
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>>560839493
>I also don't recall wiping every often.
And just as I say this, I backfill a wipe in progress with everyone else bogged down and eating shit, lmao.
Normie hours I guess.
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>>560832684
>Like ogryn still has Won't Give In, and that piece of shit of a talent has never been touched since the LAUNCH of the fucking game.
It actually got nerfed twice since launch, it used to count dead allies and then it also didn't have the 20m range constraint. Think the skill was called "Hard as Nails" back then.
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Update-o
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anyone feel like critiquing my build? i like the talent tree so far, but currently really just experimenting with weapons. bolt pistol feels pretty good, kinda swapping between eviscerator marks, relic blade, shock maul, and occasionally thunder hammer.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1566824-9320-4647-b2a7-b5f13f7c778a/who-is-the-for-chan
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>>560811851
Genuinely get a stronger Rob Zombie than 80s Punk vibe from this. Definitely from the middle one.
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>>560839873
Not gonna go to deep into build analysis, you can probably allocate your points a little better. I like Unfaltering (bottom center left) for quality of life.
Most importantly, put Maniacs and Unyielding on your bolt pistol. Put Puncture blessing on it. Neither of these is really negotiable. Puncture Maniacs lets you one tap every maniac, Puncture Unyielding lets you rape monstrosities from afar.
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>>560840062
> put Maniacs and Unyielding on your bolt pistol. Put Puncture blessing on it. Neither of these is really negotiable. Puncture Maniacs lets you one tap every maniac, Puncture Unyielding lets you rape monstrosities from afar.
exact type of wisdom I was looking for, thanks anon
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>Get to the end of a run
>Sorry your session was a fuckup lol here's the main menu
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
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>>560840308
I wouldn't be surprised at this point if it was revealed that Darktide was a massive social experiment ordered by GW to see exactly how much horseshit 40K fans will put up with
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the ogryn pick still sucks, you need so much set up for one crusher kill
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>>560838470
I've had most success with the team staying together. Sometimes 1 person takes a nearby objective if it's easy.
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>clear out area and move on
>turn around
>8 ragers appear out of thin air
This game is fucking terrible.
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>>560841426
I like the heavy one that only has overheads.
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>>560841557
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>>560841915
lmfao
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>>560841902
the shovel is even worse holy shit, they are this scared of ogryn having some good mauler pest control power??????????
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>>560839843
>update drops
>can't find deadside game
>40 minutes later
>still can't find deadside game
Damn I guess this side really is dead
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I’m blown away that they released a 30 minute game mode that has a 50% chance of crashing. Truly blown away. It’s not even like they had some tight deadline, they announced it pretty much out of the blue. Incredible.
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>>560841426
Still have some of the fastest crusher kill times
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>they changed the hacking for the CRYONIC RODS to the new expedition system
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Remember when Sweden was considered the pinnacle of European civilization and competence?
Lmao.
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>>560841557
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>>560842896
it's only that map that gets shit from other maps/modes
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>>560842908
never happened
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>>560843034
CHAOS
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>>560843034
LMAOO what the fuck
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>>560843034
beyond our comprehensions...
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Still bothers me that servers are still up for mass effect 3 multiplayer and they didn’t include it in the “legendary” edition.

All the tourist retards wrote it off as pvp garbage and when its co op horde mode that lets you play every race short of Hanar and elcorr. It even had a open beta before release but gets overshadowed by
>MUH CAMPAIGN ENDING (bioware plz let us play as turians) When you already can….
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>>560843101
You just weren't around back then.
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>>560841915
I've never seen it be that blatant before, kek
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>>560839873
Not taking duelist and good balance are the biggest mistakes. Those two are a huge boost in literally any zealot build you can make.
Backstabber without any of the other backstab boosts or stealth is kind of out of place, there are many ways to spend that point better.
Blood redemption is worse most of the time worse than vicious offering, but depends on attack pattern of course.
Blinded by blood over prime target if you're dipping into bleed on hit stuff anyway.
Depending on your weapon the other two keystones can consistently let you hit better breakpoints on enemies, but figure that out at your own discretion.
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time for another round of Hard, Solo, A New America.

YAY FUN FUN YAY READY OR NOT FUN.
suicide is looking good lads.
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>>560841557
>>560841915
>>560843034
does this game just spawn mobs on a spot that's not in line of sight or something? this seems whack as fuck
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>>560845509
It does. There have been numerous times I've been playing deadside lately where I quickly turned around to look for players or shoot a gunner, then look in the direction I was going again, and suddenly there's 4 ragers in my face. It's painfully obvious at times.
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>>560845509
the tide games LOVE to spawn shit behind your back or out of your vision
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>>560845601
I wish there was a spectate mod where you just observe spawns, always a lone poxie to shank me when I play hellbore
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It's funny because every map is filled with doors and manholes and windows for the explicit purpose of spawning things behind them, but that's not enough for the eternal swede.
The game NEEDS to spawn crushers and ragers out of thin air behind you.
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>>560845252
Just mod it to be easier :)
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>>560842908
>have one good military run
>actually we are the peak of civilization
many such cases
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>>560845509
No, the game has spawn zones that are as close to you as possible without spawning things in your face
sometimes the devs, in certain locations, fuck up the spawn zones and they'll facespawn. The way they spawned there aligning with the pillar is coincidence, in that map spot ogryns would literally spawn directly in your face out of thin air.
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Chad - Saltz
Mad - Elf
Bad - Bardin
Lad - Kruba
Sad - Sienna
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>>560846592
>Bad - Bardin
More like Rad.
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>Stage 3 of expeditions
>Everyone is on the point, but I'm the only one doing the actual objective
>Get set on fire doing a hacking minigame and realise I don't actually know how to disengage from it
>I am down
>Everyone is standing not even 3 meters from me
>No one goes to get me up till I'm at 10% left
>Doesn't try to clear anything, gets hit with a net and set on fire, dies, rage quits
>Two guys left
>Type in chat "Come get me or Leave, we have no time"
>One guy goes to get me
>The other guy tries to do the objective, fails, spends the next minute running around trying to spawn as many crushers as possible
>He realises he's an idiot and goes to extraction
>Goes down
>Extraction now has 10 Crushers, 6 Maulers and 2 waves worth of regular dudes
>Try to clear
>Cannot clear
>Bot tries to res, dies
>Other random tries to res, dies
>I get stuck in a wedge of all the dudes in existence, dies
I wish people would stop focusing on fighting everything and actually do the objectives
like, its one of the ones where you have to stand in the zone to make it go faster and I'm the only one standing there while everyone else runs around just outside the area wondering why this shit takes so long
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>>560846592
Chad - Saltz
Wad - Elf
Dad - Bardin
Sad - Kruber
Rad - Sienna
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>>560843034
ISSA GRIMDARK!
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>>560846806
>I don't actually know how to disengage from it
Pretty sure you can just right click out. Fun Fact: If you 'interrupt' another player's hack it restarts from square one. Letting a player finish their hack, even if they disengage and reengage, does not restart the minigame.
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I only play expeditions on Malice
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>>560846806
9 times out of 10 these unaware players seem to be on console. Is there a way to disable crossplay?
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I haven’t crashed from the new mode, is it just shitter pcs?
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>>560847315
Lmao.
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>>560846806
>Doing the HOUNDS! expedition
>Move towards the first objective
>Random moves towards the furthest objective that's RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOOR
>At the second objective, the other two randoms abandon me to go to the third objective because they thought it was over (I assume, it keeps happening on the two part servo skull one)
>Trying to catch up to them when HOUNDS!
>Chem grenade, stand my ground
>Why am I dead?
>A Flamer right next to me with no audio set me on fire and I didn't notice because of the chem AoE
>I'm right next to the other two guys and they just straight ignore me
>The guy who ran off at the start comes and frees me when I respawn, he's just been dicking around in a corner
>I ping the door and move to it, he follows
>The two are having trouble finishing their objective because they cannot see with their eyes the boxes they have to open
>Pack Master spawns on them
>I'm at the door
>The other guy is halfway to the other two
>Fuck I guess I'll go
>A Pack Master spawns on top of me
>Chem gun fucking OP, kill him
>Get sniped
>Wander tries to get to me, fails, I die
>One of the two died fighting their packmaster, Other one goes to get him when he respawns
>Backdashes off a cliff
>Everyone is dead except the wanderer
>Fuck it I'm out
I want to play this game mode but randoms do the stupidest shit and none of my gaming group are really interested in it
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>>560847430
You never made it far enough to crash
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>when you turn around to shoot two gunners but the director is having fun
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Do tech remnants scale with difficulty?
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>>560835813
ok rajeet dickdeepinhisownassholeshit
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Anyone else getting hit with errors about localization script managers, or some combination of those words?
I figure it's mod related but it'd save me the effort of deleting one folder if it was the Swedes at fault again
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https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-11-1-hotfix-patch-notes/119874

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-11-1-hotfix-patch-notes/119874

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-11-1-hotfix-patch-notes/119874
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Wow. Thanks bud.
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>>560848249
I was assuming the Data Reliquary wouldn't count if not held, good to know I was right
I joined into a Sanctuary just as the team was leaving once, it closed the doors on them but the mission timer started counting down
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>Smiggers joining Deadside runs
Oh god fuck off at least go pyro + shield if you want a free win bro
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What's with all the shitters you guys are describing in your deadside games? I've had a vanishingly small handful in my auric games. Are you exposing yourselves as malicelets or something?
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>>560849980
I'm playing on Heresy because I'm leveling weapon masteries
If I was playing with the lads I'd be on Damnation at least
Some of the lads are pretty bad
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vermintide
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I feel like I should just start Vote Kicks if I ever ask "Why"
Specifically, "Why the fuck are you so far away?"

Has anyone else had the extra dude in the loading screen?
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>>560850984
>tertium 5
>or 4
>tertium
>doesn't matter
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Even 4chan is getting hit with these Darktide bugs, huh
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>>560850984
I had two extra bots on top of four players in my valkyrie earlier. It really makes you wonder how things like this escape playtesting.
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>>560851350
4chan devs were just adding giant hamster redirects to anyone posting from the UK government
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>>560851367
>It really makes you wonder how things like this escape playtesting.
Bold of you to assume they actually playtest. They just grab a bunch of retarded content creatoids who spend several hours circlejerking to produce content instead of actively trying to break things, much less reporting said bugs.
Also the overall extremely low IQ of the darktard player base, combined with the content brain worm, likely leads to completely useless reports, of what few reports there actually are. Have you ever seen a retard attempt a bug report?
>thing no work
They won't even describe what they did, whether they've been able to replicate it, or how, how reliably, any conjecture, etc. etc.
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>>560851598
Based
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>>560847430
seems to be some kind of server side fuckup
I didn't crash once yesterday but today it's happened 3 times already
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>>560846934
Only oldGAWDS remember…
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>>560842908
>pinnacle
Not really, no?
>>560843705
Your fault for playing Ass Erect
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>>560847315
That’s your imagination/bias. In reality most players just suck at the game regardless of their platform.
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>>560841915
>>560843034
Funny as all fuck, thanks for sharing.
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>>560838124
>feels like I’m playing Nightreign again
very sorry to hear that
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When the team isn't retarded, I actually like this new gamemode. Wish the timer was a little longer and the shop had more interesting things though. Like the boons from Chaos Wastes but as weapon upgrades like extra cleave, burning, etc on melee or ranged.
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>>560831925
Cute
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>>560835606
jej
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fucking swedes added more crashes with their "fix"
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tNldgDoPPX4
Tuesday...
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>>560853910
I couldn't really get into this game but I kinda admire how much content they're throwing in it
wish this was fatshark
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I'm a returning player and I feel like I'm losing my mind with pox bursters. Did they change? In the past they ran at you, you guarded and pushed them back, and then they flew backwards and blew up at a safe distance. Now I block push them back, dodge backwards myself, and still get chunked for most of my health by the explosion. It's the most dangerous mob by an absolute light year because if they are coming around a corner such that I can't shoot them ahead of time they are guaranteed damage it feels like.
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>>560854749
also getting netted by the scab trapper through a boss is niggerdly.
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>>560854749
Yes, they did some optimization fuckery with hitboxes or something and in all their Sw*dish glory, completely broke poxbursters at one point. You're experiencing the "fixed" version btw, and they're still buggy as hell.
Just double push and double dodge or dodge + slide backwards, that usually works. Either way you will definitely have to push more than once if you want to be sure.
>>560854869
This has always happened. They can also airshot you while you're falling, or pull you up a ledge, or sometimes (rarely) get you through walls. Fagshart is simply that incompetent.

Wait until you learn how they broke an entire keystone for over a month of vacation, or how the new mode is barely functional.
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>>560854749
yes, they fucked up all explosions radius when they buffed scum rocket launcher explosion, then they fixed it (not reverted, but did something different), which apparently fixed all explosions but not poxbursters (their explosion is smaller than when all explosions were bugged but still bigger than it used to be)
It doesn't seem that the maximum radius is bigger now, they fixed that, but it seems the inner radius is just as big as it was when they fucked shit up, so you are safe if you don't get hit by explosion, but if you're on the very edge of explosion you get hit much harder than before
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>>560854927
Have you played at all in the past 5 years?
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>>560851367
I think it probably happens when players leave/rejoin right as the valkyrie loading screen is about to start. But it's just a visual bug. The really weird bug is when you get extra bots in the actual match.
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>>560855335
I honestly think that if it weren't for Fatshark's games being tied to the warhammer IPs, the company would have folded long ago.
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>>560855690
Vermintide's biggest oversight was them forgetting they had a fixed version for a time at most
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>>560854113
It's really fun and if fatshark would follow their model darktide would be a fantastic game
Outlast trials goes on sale pretty regularly for like 50%-75% off it's very worth picking up
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>>560850984
when someone crashes / alt+f4's a slot is reserved for him and doesn't let other players join
when you reconnect at this time, the valkyrie will show these bots who fill in the slots riding with you, including the bot that substitutes you
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>About the extract
>Guy throws the data canister out the valkyrie at the last second
>Nobody gets anything
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>>560856338
Social tab, find him. Join his game. Ledge him, spam E on him when he goes down or take all tech parts then die before extracting, nevermind the other 2 guys who have no fault. Repeat.
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isn't it funny how we went from collecting resources nobody needs to collecting resources that immediately vanish as soon as you exit the valkyrie
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Been playing Toxic Commando and tower defense games. How's the new mode?
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>>560857643
>How's the new mode?
Unbearably bad with bad teammates, quite fun with competent teammates.
It's also so extremely unpolished, janky and bugged that you won't be able to get more than 3 runs in without something breaking. Even after the hotfix lol.
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>>560857643
Hit or miss. It requires the team to work together more than a regular map does. I've found marking which objective to go to and then pinging in that direction an okay way of guiding people. I'm having fun when people work together but it feels easier for 1-2 players to ruin a run
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>>560857764
>>560857845
Interesting. I'll have to get my ass back on Darktide later. Especially wanna see what shivcum is like now that Shivs caught a (deserved) nerf. Also, amazing they apparently still haven't completely fixed poxbursters. Fucking Fatshark lmao
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>>560853229
nonce
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>>560858394
There is no tutorial for how the new gamemode works so a lot of people jump in blind with it being different from how normal maps work. So the learning curve is special.
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Why is the extraction valkyrie horrifically buggy? I thankfully haven't had any crashing/disconnects yet but every time I have extracted from zone 3/3 it becomes a complete clusterfuck of 100 crushers spawning and clipping through everything and players getting pushed all over the place by the valkyrie landing and I have never had all four players successfully make it on board
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>>560852812
nah man, the guy is right. There's bad PC players yeah but the ones on console play like they have no idea what they're doing. They don't do objectives.
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>>560858795
>go to expedition terminal for the first time
>a 5 page How To pops up
>give people a skip button instead of forcing them to spend exactly 2 seconds per page
Imagine.
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>>560839264
More recoil makes the gun shooter harder sah
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>>560811851
>>560812351
No Chain Great Axe for you. Get fucked.
t. Fatshark
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How to tell when the randoms are intentionally trying to fail the mission
>3-4 minutes left
>Right next to the door
>There's Crushers everywhere
>We have two canisters
>They run across the map to do the last objective
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>>560858918
Unless you have proof showing this, it’s literally just your gut feeling. Obviously bad consoles exist but in my experience the divide is literally 50/50, maybe slightly more skewed in one direction.
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you lied to me
you said there will be better players in higher ranked zones
delta is full of shitters, fuck this shit, i'm going to gamma
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>>560858987
I swear someone at fatshark had the smart idea of expecting the youtubers to make the tutorial for them and for the players to watch it.
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>>560858587
Not how this works
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How does quickplay work for expedition anyway? it queues you for all the grid or only a specific location?
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>>560855176
yeah I play about 10 games a month, and win about 8 of them. so that should give me at least 1 red a month if the winds blow right. And yet its been 10 years..
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>>560859467
>Unless you have proof showing this, it’s literally just your gut feeling.
Thats not how that works but ok, you do you, but I know console players are shit.
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imo you all here are bad, just a gut feeling
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>>560860252
They've been regularly giving out red dust during the christmas advent calendar event
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>>560860961
I'm on the point, by myself
Its one of the ones that goes faster the more people are on it
Its not that they aren't there, its that they're stupid
One of them is running around the outside of the compound being useless, I know this because he is downed
One of them is trying to res the useless guy but he doesn't clear and now he's downed too
The third guy is just vibing near the point doing nothing, so I'm the one that has to res the other down guy, and then go back to capping the point by myself

I've set up a sound board, I'm going to make a 1 minute long loop of TF2 Scouts "Get on the point" voice lines
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I think regenerating grenades are STUPID. Remove it NOW. It made sense for bardin cause he was an engineer, and the nades were bad. I am not a veteran I am a nade printing machine.
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>>560833021
Naturally. They said in the patch notes it was the intended weakness of the weapon. They have no idea how their game plays past Malice or why all melees pretty much have to be able to deal with elites. They don't even understand why certain debuffs are valuable/become valuable.
>implying 10% brittleness that doesn't stack is going to be worth a god damn thing
>implying I give a shit about rending that I can only access while cleaving
>implying the stupid unique light follow-up to HS special is worth using over H1
Fucking morons
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>>560860976
Those don't count dawri
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>>560859467
It's significantly harder to play tide games with a controller
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>>560861426
Oh, also, even if they made it so that the brittleness from HS special did stack, the weapon would still suck.
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lol now they make FRAMES recolor?

lmao

kek
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>>560860398
If you have proof, feel free to present it. Otherwise yes.
>>560861645
Not if you know what you’re doing and actually adjust your settings. Of course fps games in general are easier with kbm but it’s not some massive gap that can’t be bridged.
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What causes the shield pop insta down?
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>>560863350
Please kill yourself
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Don't worry team, I the stealth knife zealot will heroically traverse the desert on my own and multitask for the team.
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>What if we added Helldivers But Somehow Even Less Fun to our coop horde shooter
Literally what the FUCK were they thinking????
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>>560843034
cue x-files theme
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What the fuck were they thinking when making this retarded game mode?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7iHP2T2Duw
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>>560865793
>they want us to believe there are groups of turbo normies who get together to have fun playing the Darktide board game
I have my doubts.
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>>560855335
It's an acknowledged bug I think
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>>560863982
It's fall damage
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>>560865408
>Is it lunch time soon?
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>>560865793
>point at that fatty in your friends group
>YOU'RE THE OGRYN HAHA
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>>560866281
Is it some weird inertia math? Like it pushes the players so fast down that the game trips itself into believing the player fell?
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>>560866414
Something like that
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>>560866303
...That not nice, boss. *sits on you*
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>>560866448
>...More like CACAdia!
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>>560865793
But does it have waifus?
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>>560866693
>point at that indian in your friends group
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>>560866796
You have seen Darktide's cast, correct?
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>>560866812
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>>560866848
Yes, of course I know what the answer is already.
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>>560863350
>If you have proof, feel free to present it. Otherwise yes.
Not how it works, but ok.
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Why do the patch notes say
>Lowered base Cleave for Light attacks to {1.0, 3.0}, from {3.0, 5.0} for Light 1 / Light 3 and {2.0, 4.0} for Light 2 / Light 4
for the Mk 1 Shivs, using "1.0, 3.0" and "2.0, 4.0" to depict its cleave value when there's no cleave roll on the weapon? What do these numbers mean if not that?

Anyway, is it worth taking Battering Strikes to compensate for the nerf, or nah? Splash Damage's existence inclines me towards "nah".
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>>560865129
they're killing the game on purpose so they can sell darktide 2
screencap this
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>>560866796
Of course!
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>>560867672
Each weapon has base values, the stat categories on a weapon are then modifiers of those values.
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>300/500 sites cleared for the cool emblem
>already unlocked every part of the map
frick
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>>560868332
So pick the zone with the extra sites
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>>560847308
I started off doing aurics only but then the next day it was tortue and didnt complete a single one somehow for hours, so I switched to malice to unlock everything. Probably a bad idea desu now what am I going to do?
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>>560868452
yeah, but do I want to grind just for an emblem?
last time I grinded 500 special condition missions for a special frame, fatshark changed it to 250 right after I got it.

They will probably do the same here
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>>560868586
play normal mode.
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>>560868801
I already played 1000+ hours of that.
I dont think Im ever going back.
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I'm starting to wish we could separate cosmetic loadouts from regular loadouts
I don't want to have Plasma Gun (regular) and Plasma Gun (desert)
I guess I could grab that mod that adds 1000 loadouts but I dunno, man
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MAN-THING! Wot-ever ‘appens, no-click press the hidden-seen picture in da spoil-box, yes-yes!
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PSA for all ogryn players here.
Steady Grip talent doesn't work. Or more accurately only the BRACING part works, you DON'T regen any toughness if you fire your gun.
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PSA for all ogryn players here.
I'm sorry bros, maybe next update.
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>>560870450
next update will add the techpriest
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Do ragers emit an aura that turns all your teammates retarded when they spawn.
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>>560868251
Yes, but either I've misunderstood you just now, or you misunderstood me. I said that the Shiv doesn't have a cleave stat roll, so how then are these able to act as modifiers to the base cleave stat?
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>>560830952
whoa which mod is this? makes the hellbore look usable
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Anyone wanna group for some expeditions?
2483974837
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>>560867672
Different attacks in your light attack combo have different cleave values. Your light attacks used to have cleave values going (3, 3, 5, 5) and now it's (1, 2, 3, 4). That sentence is written in an incredibly obtuse way though.
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>>560871243
It's a flat number. The cleave stat bar modifies it, but every weapon has a flat number of enemies it can cleave
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>>560864289
>>560867156
>thread shitter has nothing of value to say
Business as usual
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>>560872478
Ahhh. I honestly thought about that possibility and dismissed it, not only because the way they wrote the numbers in squiggly brackets like a set but also because they'd already separated Lights 1 and 3 from Lights 2 and 4. So I figured that even if I was misremembering my gradeschool math, 1 and 3 reasonably had to have the same stats and 2 and 4 had to have the same stats regardless. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's awful wording. Cheers

>>560872524
Again, there is no cleave stat bar on the Shiv. That was why I was asking for clarification. Please read.
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>>560866448
This girl deserves a much better show it’s just depressing.
>>560867737
It’s entirely possible and canon that he can look like this btw.
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>>560866796
Prime example of good girls but shitty franchise.
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>>560873497
Careful anon, you might upset the modern Yugioh player by implying you don't like solitaire matches.
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>hey new hotfix, maybe the mode is more stable
>smooth sailing until extract
>crash on callin
thanks obese fish, very nice, release a mediocre new gamemode AND make it unstable
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>>560873657
>hey new hotfix, maybe the mode is more stable
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>>560870450
I just want a class that functions properly.
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Guess what new ennemy they added in the files
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>>560874864
Nurge Flies.
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>>560874864
Nurgle Files
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>>560874864
Nurgle Filet
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>>560874864
Are we sure they won't be a disabler?
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>>560874864
Corrupted techpriest
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>>560874864
Burger Pile
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ITS DARKTIDE TIME, LETS RIDE !!!!!!!
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>>560869327
What I would give for a WHF anime
>>560873613
>solitaire matches
Kek is it really that bad?
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>>560875660
>6GB patch
what the fuck, this aint no god damn hotfix
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>>560875812
They added a picture of your mom. Just one.
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>>560875907
CURSE YOU FATSHARK
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>>560874864
My guess is that the next enemy getting added is some sort of Nurgle psyker or a nurgle daemon. And it then uses these nurgle flies to attack you and the team.
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>>560874864
>>560875183
>>560876084
I bet it's just another boring havok modifier
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>>560876084
Wouldn't that be a rehash of the nurgle sorcs from VT2? I wouldn't mind though. We could use anything new enemy-wise. Still not sure why they didn't just leave the radio operators in.
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>>560875709
>Kek is it really that bad?
I haven't played anything besides singleplayer games or with friends in a while, but as far as I've observed, yes. Games seem to typically end within the first couple turns because special summons are incredibly accessible, and the extra deck now houses so many counters/negates that you can just build an unbreakable board on turn 0. Konami has had to make "hand traps": cards, typically effect monsters, you discard to activate their effect, in order to allow for interactivity in modern YGO because normal trap cards are generally far too slow.
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>>560876180
dude they just added the storm sorcerer tornadoes
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thanks to expeditions, i now appreciate the vanilla maps
i'm glad they didn't spend half a year of dev time on this mode right
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>>560873196
But would he FEEL like that???
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nice new mode you fucking faggot swedes, i hope the mudslimes burn you're houses down
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Is it just me or is trhis shit completely mistuned?
There's some expeditions that require you to get 3500 or 4000 (forgot) to unlock, but you can't even get that much in a mission. We're full looting the maps and most we ever got was 3100 on lucky RNG, rest averaged 2800. We literally split all the way up to do it and it's not yielding more than 3100, how are you meant to get 3500 or even 4000 in a single mission for the unlock option?
Are we missing something? We
>do all the points of interest
>look for small unmarked caches
>pick up the random +10s off the floor
>pull and kill every boss
Is there anything else to it? We're playing aurics btw not sure if the spawns are differtent on lower but that'd be retarded
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>>560879431
Wouldn't be surprised if they changed the values for what spawns on accident. They already halved the amount needed to go from the first node to the second in the hotfix.
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>>560874864
Isn't that the shit that sorcerer in the castle shoots at you in ratclick?
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>>560879895
this mode is frustratingly grindy
>here do this night map to get 10000 remnants total
>by the way it spawns like 60% of other missions because its 30 min timer, making it low intensity and making it spawn less remnants
Like its literally designed to make you grind the low intensity more? what the fuck
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>>560880464
That's kind of been my take so far as well. I haven't been doing it on auric because the friends I normally play with after work are all busy this week. I've done some heresy and damnations and yah it's a fucking grind. I think I'll be done with most of the other penances before I even get the first chest piece or the 50 barrel pick up since it only seems to count if you're the only holding and using it
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>>560843034
>This could only be the work of a tactical genius
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>30 mins into a perfect run with almost 4k salvage
burn every fucking swegroid alive
castrate swegroid niggers
skin sweniggers
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>>560843034
fucking david copperfield
kek
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>>560876084
There’ll be a daemon there’s no psykers like that just sorcerers
>>560876261
I haven’t involved myself with anything YGO in forever so I’ll take your word for it. That’s unfortunate. At least they’re still putting cute girls on them.
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>>560869327
I wish I had a anthro rat gf
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>>560883163
>At least they’re still putting cute girls on them.
Very true. I'd still rather play modern YGO with friends than modern MTG with all their capeshit crossovers and black Aragorn.
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>>560848112
>still cucked by shader crashes at launch
>ETA on the next hotfix is "early next week"
Hopefully the mode isn't completely dead by the time I can actually play
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https://youtu.be/-rY8wKw7Tb8
Fatshark is DONE
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>already cant find matches
DOA
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>hour long
no, not for anyone, no one commands this much attention
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>>560840609
That's space marine 2
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which one of you is this
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>>560888581
Reddit stole the Sneed meme 3 centuries ago.
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>>560888581
Me, and i'd appreciate if you didn't plaster my name in a general full of schizo retards
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See that you do.
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i love abysmal dogshit
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>penance for the fancier pants says you need to unlock 18 grid points
>the map only has 8
so you can't even grind all the cosmetics until they do a couple of rotations
this is a really shameless player retention tactic
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Both the lvl 1294 and lvl 379 died alone


Malice, btw.
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>>560890173
And here I am worried about embarrassing myself after not playing the game for a few months.
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>>560889847
So the alt modifiers like night, twisters, etc don't count as a grid point? That's pretty bad. They really did design it with forcing player retention especially if we have to unlock all of the nodes every time.
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>>560883214
no you dont
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>>560890173
I can only imagine what gaming will be like if Russia actually does start preventing their people from accessing the internet outside of Russia
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Is it time to uninstall Darktide?
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>Ready or Not devs just keep releasing polished turd map packs and plagiarized from modder weapon kits instead of doing literally anything about the dogshit AI
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>>560890173
The only good russian I've played with was the one using cheats to rescue himself when pinned
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>>560890618
ukrainian maybe?
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I hate this fucking mdoe and I don't see myself grinding it for shit cosmetics.
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Grid point Kappa is the best.
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>>560892440
I had fun for the first 3 runs
then I realized
>wait, all of these are gonna be the same map?
>wait, all the "randomization" is just which 4 nodes are spawned and they're always the same if it rolls that one?
>wait, the salvage shop only lets you buy other classes grenades like the ogryn nuke, and "airstrikes" which are still worse than the boombringer?
>wait, it expects me to do this shit over 50 times?

Actual pathetic effort on their end to make content. They calld this the BIGGEST CONTENT DROP YET, the cocksuckers
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brb toilet break I'll make the biggest content drop of the day. Fatshark style.
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>doing a full run in zeta
>6100 salvage
>nearing 40 mins
>running to extract
>game crashes when someone throws a heavy grenade
>try to rejoin
>it crashed for everyone
can we just crush every fucking sweniggers skull already
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Surely the Swedes will make sure the biggest content drop ever will have a purpose and provide great rewards, boosting its replayability.
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>Quickplay into Expeditions
>Spawn in the middle of crusher patrol and instantly die
>other 3 team members are currently dead or in the process of being it.
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Just hire back the CW guys, surely they're still working somewhere
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>>560883657
>with all their capeshit crossovers and black Aragorn.
Say it isn’t so…
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>>560895807
It's actually worse. Those are only part of the highlights reel of the various problems going on in MtG
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>>560895570
nobody actually played that anon you fell for a meme
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I'm kinda mad they wasted dev ressources to make this shit.
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>>560889525
NOW HEAR THIS!!!
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What is the most broken build after the update?
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I can't wait to play the normal missions and never touch expeditions or mortis trials as a new class in 5 months
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This entire new "gamemode" feels equivalent to having one new mission.
They should've just put this map on the regular mission board, maybe exempt it from quickplay
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>>560897874
Arbitrator with robocop stance, enjoy shooting 35 times with your boltgun
>but the ammo eff-
Take all the ammo.
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>>560898856
That does sound fun
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mm they should buff the bolt pistol
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>>560899967
Uhhhhhh no???
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doing heresy to level up some weapons is actual torture. i'd rather just play with npcs than some of these trogs.
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>>560897874
plasma gun vet, as always
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>>560900414
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>>560897874
Flame staff and force sword shriek psyker. Same as it ever was
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>>560898856
Throwing knives on zealot don't break stealth anymore, and they keep the damage boost from shroudfield. If you have manstopper blessing on your shotgun it appleis on your knives.
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>>560885576
>#1 Fatshit glazer hates it
It's not looking good swed xisters...
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>>560900887
>#1 Fatshit glazer
If that is the case then they don't have any glazers
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>mortis trials was shit
>expeditions was shit
do you think they learned their lessons and will finally focus on actual missions like the carnival update
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im so sick of mapfags. maps dont fucking DO ANYTHING.

NEW WEAPONS. NOW.
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>>560901918
Yes. We need more off meta picks that don't do shit outside of Malice.
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Shoudda' ben Chaos Wastes.
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>>560875709
the game is so fast that you cannot give your opponent a second turn, because even if you destroy their whole board, theres a good chance they can instantly rebuild it. they have done something about throwing out 5 omni negates, so its only like 2-3 now, but thats not a insurmountable task if your deck is just built correctly, which i think is fine, because i play blind second decks, if im allowed to have an uninterrupted turn, they lose instantly
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toxic commandos won
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>>560895570
so you're telling me
shrimp did not
frie this rice?

ho ho ho ho
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>>560901857
lol, lmao - Fatshark
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>>560901991
do you literally just want to use the same fucking weapons for years on end? i dont fucking understand what the problem is. maps are varied enough that they shouldnt matter literally at fucking all. meanwhile there are single digit viable weapons in the entire game regardless of the class or build youre using i seriously hate you fags so goddamn fucking much
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>>560902316
>maps are varied enough that they shouldnt matter literally at fucking all.
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>>560902423
i play exclusively quickplay. i have never once in my entire life manually selected a map. if you do, you're your own problem
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>>560902565
Didn't ask
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>>560902603
youre an alien if you're somehow getting more quickly worn out with repeated maps than repeated weapons
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>>560902316
hate to say it but he's right, i honestly don't think fatshark's ever gonna do much to shift the meta away from
>crushers
so any new weapons will end up like the power falchion
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>>560903904
>so any new weapons will end up like the power falchion
The crowbar, shivs and bonersaw all dab on crushers
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>put a weakspot on Crushers
Oops did I just fix Dartide?
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>>560904874
Que the cry babies whining that it'll make the game too easy or some other bullshit.
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>>560904874
Pretty much. The crusher killing weapons already don't care about armor types
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>>560902073
There's no way I'm getting 1200+ hours out of Toxic Commando, but I have been enjoying it quite a bit.
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>>560895570
Furious baby making sex with this expert chef
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>>560905985
She's 8 years old
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>>560885576
>Suggests that expedition tech remnants should be a currency you would be able to roll true red gear with just to give the mode a chance not to be dead within a week
lmao, it's that bad hu?

Please god just add red rolls to the fucking game already
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>>560906016
No she's a robot silly.
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They dropped the tech remnants requirement for the first map node in the hotfix, think they'll do it for the others? Decided to look at the requirements and it's a lot more grind than I was expecting and I don't think anyone's going to be playing this mode in a month
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>>560904874
make it so their face has degradable armor. x amount of damage removes it so theyre unarmored on the face
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could you explain in vermintide terms what this darktide update is about
thanx
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>>560908508
I have been told it is somewhat similar to your weaves dlc
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i've only played psyker as melee, is there anything in particular i should do while building a full magic muhfucka?
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>>560908508
Do 10-15 minigames while the game spawns stuff and a timer counts down while collecting trash.
Like if you had to run between the Gargoyle head collection of Old Haunts, the rotation puzzle of Athel Yenlui, the barrel gathering of Empire in Flames, and the pattern matching finale of Well of Dreams, but everything is just a brown desert with metal shacks and you have to do it all three times over before running to a survival finale on a small circle like Convocation of Decay but with more monsters.
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>>560910694
>make an optimised flame staff
>build for endless fire, 0 quelling
>???
>profit
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>>560871284
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/628?tab=description
Use this with custom crosshairs.
It's also a per gun/ per mark basis so you can set it to only apply to specific guns
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>>560910809
oh yeah i'm not using flame staff, i want to use lightning though because its shoots lighting from your fingers like palpatine ya feel me
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>>560911192
You can still do the same, build for perils quelling and endless lightning. You'll just have a subpar experience because lightning suffers from the classic stun in vidya problem
>why take 5 minutes to stagger enemy wave to death
>when could just do more damage and wipe them in 2 mins
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Anyone else having the game stutter a bunch when the cyclones spawn?
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>dark Tide releases
>Boy I sure hope it has chaos waste
>No chaos waste
>Year two
>They'll add chaos wastes for sure this time
>No chaos waste
>Year 3
>Surely they'll make chaos waste
> Make snortus trials instead
>Year 4
>Chaos waste for sure this time
>Releases pointless open world snooze fest

What is wrong with this company. Why can't they release the most popular game mode from their previous title?
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>>560913704
they literally can't. they are sincerely, irrevocably incapable of doing it, or they would
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>>560859440
>~4 minutes left
>push to talk
>"Last objective is far, if anything bad happens we lose, let's leave."
>ping in the next best direction toward the gate/valk
This has always worked for me so far. It's also often correct. Sometimes the game just decides to throw a rape horde at you, or a boss, or some idiot gets ledged or whatever, and you have to spend a minute salvaging a bad situation, suddenly you're down to 3 minutes, which isn't enough to do some objectives and also cross half the map when the director snorts coke.
People 3 nodes in on auric have been reasonably sensible.
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>>560906131
>Red rarity gives the weapon family a signature ability/buff/passive
Name the ability for (You)r favorite weapon.
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>>560897874
Full commit glass cannon melee scum. Did my h40 grind this week with one, got 7 wins 1 loss, he consistently completely melted any and all bosses from full to zero with backstabs without them being able to do anything, either because of chorus stunlock, or because human bosses spend too much time standing up from getting knocked over.
Granted, chorus + skullcrusher + some brittleness had some contribution, but we were effectively just supporting the scum for most of the game. Never mind the boss raping, he also consistently had the highest overall damage by ~+35% or so.

I also get the impression that PBB rumbler ogryn is on the rise. Played with 2, the spam was honestly kind of retarded. Unfortunately requires a vet feeding ammo to be viable, and apparently the "vet is le nerfed" retard crowd has abandoned the class lmao. Then again, vet has always been a knower class. If you don't know, you don't deserve to play it. Smokes are S-tier btw.
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>>560915148
Twin-linked. Turning on the flashlight makes your lasgun shoot twice.
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>Want to play havoc since it reset and I havent played in like a month
>Fresh 30 on NA east
>post lobby
>not a single request to join in over 30 minutes
>exit lobby to apply to someone elses lobby
>lobby screen is completely empty except for one other dudes havoc 17
Oh....
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>>560915440
It's the middle of the night on a weekday, retard. And the usual tourists are playing the new mode (nothing of value was lost).
>h30
>almost a week into the reset
No shit nobody wants to join, everyone that actually plays havoc already did the 40 grind in the first 3 days.
Try playing on the weekend where the few actually employed havoc players usually do their grind.
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I wonder how the Fartshart devs felt seeing the community slowly building up hype to a fever pitch for Chaos Wastes 2 electric boogaloo knowing they had this stinker of a game mode in the chamber instead. It's genuinely embarrassing how out of touch with their playerbase they are. It's like a miracle of pure chance that they stumbled onto such a fun moment-to-moment gameplay experience and such a beloved IP despite being completely retarded swedes, huh?
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>>560915571
NTA but when should I be looking around for fresh Havoc groups? I have them unlocked but all the parties I see are for like really high clearance levels, feels like I can't even get a foot on the first rung of this stupid ladder so I'm stuck in Aurics.
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>>560915571
I made a mistake thinking the update was just yesterday and reinstalled today, hadn't been keeping up with the game at all so that's on me.
Worst case scenario I'll just play psyker on EU servers like last time I climbed to 40, because NA is fucking dogshit in comparison anyways.
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>>560915661
You should understand by now that Fatshark doesn't like 40k very much and that Darktide likely only exists because GW asked them.
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>>560915252
Smokes are single handedly the main reason I can carry expeditions. Retards fight in the open all the time while 15 gunners and 10 reapers would mow them down. Throw a smoke and lo-behold, they manage to not be made into swiss cheese and the enemy AI runs into melee.
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>>560913704
>le chaos waste
They should just stop trying to pander to CW crowd and just keep making soulful linear adventure maps.
It's obvious they can't replicate it (or won't, due to swedish hubris).
They have new assets in this mode that would be enough for two solid maps.
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>>560916393
Wait you think the CW crowd is being pandered to with these dogshit not-CW gamemodes?
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>>560916509
You don't need to reply to retardposts
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>>560916002
Well actually I only came back to the game recently, I tried it at launch and was pretty meh about the whole thing. It launched in a pretty embarrassing state and so far I've been pleased with a lot of the way the game has developed (I mean, we didn't even have crafting yet back then which was just some total fucking bullshit), so I'm kind of taking it all in now.
>Fatshark doesn't like 40k very much
It's tragic because I think their game is my favorite 40k media to play, I feel like they do the setting and tone really well. Hell, it feel so fucking good to put Bolter Pistol rounds into a target, god damnit even though I'm dooming rn I'm also craving a match just thinking about it
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>>560916509
They're obviously based on parts of CW, what kind of a retarded question it is?
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>>560916393
>They should just stop trying to pander to CW crowd and just keep making soulful linear adventure maps.
I don't think this is pandering to CW people at all because it's not CW or even CW-lite, however I agree the game would be better off if resources from Mortis Trials, Havoc, and this gamemode had all been spent into making a second leg of the campaign.
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>>560915761
>NTA but when should I be looking around for fresh Havoc groups?
You finish an auric maelstrom which catapults you to ... I forget whether it's 17~21 but it's something like that. Then you consider hosting or applying to others. I hear the low level climb is a fucking nightmare because 25-30 is the hardstuck trench, and nobody applies to levels before that. Honestly, no worthwhile havoc player applies to levels under 31 anyhow.
I've never dropped below 30 so I don't know what the pub grind is like. I just leeched my way to 40 in the first couple weeks and stayed there ever since.
>>560915860
>NA is fucking dogshit in comparison
EU player here. I've warmed up to NA. I do feel like there's more worse players, and that players are generally less self-sufficient than EU, but filtering the good players into my games has yielded better overall game quality than EU, in my experience. It just takes like half an hour of declining obvious retards, but after that I've had groups stay together for 5+ games with players not making mistakes. Randomly got some guy true survivor without trying to, etc.
Also NA actually embraces that ogryn is very fucking good, and NA ogryns are on a different level compared to EU ogryns.
>>560916105
Bubblebrains don't realize that smokes are a better, more spammable bubble, and that it completely removes the pressure from the psyker to take bubble. Also psyker isn't strictly necessary either, but many shitters also don't understand this.
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>>560916715
>You finish an auric maelstrom which catapults you to ... I forget whether it's 17~21 but it's something like that.
Oh shit I had no idea, thanks for the info brother. I don't really care much about the grind or anything, I'd just like to be able to find a party to get my weekly reward or however it works, my ass still needs a ton of crafting materials.
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>>560915252
>Full commit glass cannon melee scum.
What weapon?
I've been playing tac axe and claw because its fun and it works, but in retrospect I think I might be trolling
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>>560916649
Anon do people who ask for CW want "parts of CW"? Or do they want CW? Who is being pandered to exactly with this dogshit exactly?
And to begin with how the fuck is expeditions ANYTHING like CW? The salvage buying bombs is about the only similarity and it actually ends there
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>>560916868
Mk I shivs, carapace, unyielding, riposte, precog. Didn't need untranny because between ogryn and zealot/psyker we had 2 sources of brittleness stacking to I think 60% or so. I usually flamered into armor and bosses until brittleness was stacked up, and the ogryn did the same with his GG.
I haven't seen a melee scum use a different weapon yet, they're all shivs in h40. Much more weapon versatility on non-melee builds. Even had one use a heavy sword recently, and he did fine.
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>>560916105
>>560916715
What do you fellas take to deal with armor if you're not running kraks then? Plasma gun? I know that's meta but I've yet to warm up to the thing, I'm gonna fucking blow my ass up with it I just know it
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>>560917101
>I'm gonna fucking blow my ass up with it I just know it
It actually literally can't blow up unless you charge it up, so it's downright impossible to panic blow up.
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>>560917101
powersword of course
kraks aren't even that good in expeditions because they always fall somewhere between debree and not kill shit
anyway mob density is too low for kraks to be good here
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>>560917101
In havoc, it simply stops being the vet's job. Vet should be on anti-shooter/disabler duty all of the time anyhow. Kraks are only strictly mandatory in modifiers that spam hordes of super tanky armor, and are very helpful with red/purple because those can be a bitch to kill.
In general, there's always the power sword if you want zero melee investment, or the dueling sword if you're okay with some (or even heavy) melee investment. I personally think the bottom right keystone is utter dogshit trash even WITH plasma gun because losing piss tag is fucking retarded, but it does allow for a very powerful melee build if that's your thing.
Don't shoot your plasma at crushers unless you absolutely must. If you do that, even all of the ammo on the map (in h40) won't be enough to feed your frivolous spam. It's okay to backpedal and kite for a room or two in an emergency.
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>>560917101
Power sword lol. You can two-shot crushers with the push-attack -> light in Havoc 40 with the right blessings and talents. If you don't want to use the power sword, the dueling sword always works. The knife too, to an extent, but the power sword is my go to. It can handle pretty much everything with the push-attack -> light combo. If you want a gun for armor, then use the bolt pistol, revolver, Helsnore, plasma, or bolter. My main build is bolt pistol + power sword. I use the Mk IV Bolt Pistol and MK VI Power Sword because I can aim and the MK VI Power Sword is the one with the stab as a push attack.
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>>560917019
Listen bubby, it's obviously CW broken into pieces. They are trying to give the audiences something like CW to the extent of their current dev abilities. So yes, they are PANDERING to that demand for CW.
>how the fuck is expeditions ANYTHING like CW
Tiled semi open maps. If your next post is gonna be more doubling down then just don't bother typing it.
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>>560917283
>>560917312
>>560917358
Oh right, I forget that thing exists cause I luv me knife, I've still got to get one rolled right and crafted up to 500. Cheers bros I think I will fuck around with smokes, I did see a guy using them last night and was like damn those are strong as hell, thinking of them as a better bubble makes a lot of sense.
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>>560917385
>how the fuck is expeditions ANYTHING like CW
>Tiled semi open maps.
CW was nothing like that, it was just normal linear maps
you retards need to shut the fuck up if you're this clueless. Actually so embarassing that you're in here whining about how this is the CW pander in broken english when you evidently don't even know what CW is. I wish brown people would just get removed from the internet
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is it worth consecrating weapons at lower levels? level 14 and ive already consecrated weapons i perform well with. wasteful or worth it? i can fuck up minibosses very well (plague ogryn, beast of nurgle, etc)
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>>560843034
>*Laughs in Tzeentch*
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>>560917683
I wouldn't go crazy with it but in the grand scheme of things it's costing you a pittance to consecrate, I just wouldn't go crazy trying to empower them up from such a low level, just keep progressing and looking for higher level base items with the correct stat distributions before you try to pick one to max out.
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Why does it take 15 hours to load in
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>>560917463
Be aware that using the power sword has a learning curve. It's really simple on paper, but in practice, you need to develop the muscle memory to not fuck up your stab combo, not fat finger anything else, and actually get the timing right. It also has complete and utter dogshit for mobility, so if you don't have a pistol in your ranged slot, you will be SLOOOW.
Double the risk if you're doing Deadshot related builds, because you'll also be hurting for stamina. Deadshot is good, power sword is good, Deadshot with power sword is hard to get used to and might not be worth it until you do, and even then it can be tricky.

If you're used to knife, you're in for a world of hurt with how slow the thing is. If you can't get psword to work, know that it's just the learning curve getting in your way. Don't discard it because you can't make it work yet.
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>>560917683
Waste of mats unless you've got good stats on them. Keep your materials for when you're ready to roll for good weapons.
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>>560917796
i see. that makes sense. thank you, anon.
>>560917823
the game unpacks several gb of shit (i suspect textures and sounds), so it has to unpack and repack as you go. i imagine its because of ram
>>560917872
what should i be looking for as a veteran main?
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>>560917661
>Tiled semi open maps
>CW was nothing like that
It's literally like that tho.
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>>560917853
>If you can't get psword to work, know that it's just the learning curve getting in your way. Don't discard it because you can't make it work yet.
I already learned that lesson with Relic Blade, but the slowness does hurt, huh. Well there's always the dueling sword if I can't get into it, I do HATE being slow.
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>>560917930
No it wasn't you fucking retard. CW maps were all linear and static. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about just because some other clueless retard told you "this is just like CW!"
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>>560917901
>i see. that makes sense. thank you, anon.
Oh I should say, if you don't have a high mastery with them to unlock their perks, then consecrating isn't really doing a lot for you anyway unless you get a lucky roll. But if you can slap the max level perks on there, well that only costs you ordo dockets after it's consecrated so imo it's very worth it to consecrate, I think most weapons live or die based on having the right perk combinations on them.
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>>560917992
i have noticed that the perks i have on my chainsword have made all the difference, yeah. went immediately from being bullied by shit like ragers and maulers to ripping them and others to pieces damn near upon contact
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>>560917982
>Stop talking about shit you know nothing about just because some other clueless retard told you "this is just like CW!"
This is just like CW tho.
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>>560917901
For guns you want a 60 dump stat on mobility and 80 in everything else. Most of the guns are pretty good, but the standouts are the bolter, bolt pistol, plasma, recon las, hellbore las and las pistol. Melee doesn't really matter much, but still dump mobility to 60.
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>>560917683
If you're married to the weapon, it's okay to level it up as long as the stats are salvageable. There isn't a big practical difference between 70-80 damage on most weapons, and things like breakpoints are the kind of autism you get into when you actually have the mats to test this shit. Upgrading your favorite weapon early will make you feel powerful faster and let you have more fun right now.
It's obviously better in the long run to save your mats and just use what you have, but having shit gear isn't fun.
You definitely MUST bless your weapons with that 1 good blessing that every weapon has tho, likely even both blessings. Those make the biggest difference.
>>560917901
>what should i be looking for as a veteran main?
Power sword, put Power Cycler on it. Best overall melee weapon, just hard to use. Dueling sword is the other meta melee but wants finesse/crit in your skill tree to be strong. Similar for knife, which is a slightly worse but more mobile weapon, get used to using the push attack here.
Bolt pistol/gun are very strong, plasma is very strong, recon lasgun is strong. Just don't magdump your bolter, build it for sniping. Critmaxxing is quite good on it. If you want the explodey bolter, put Pinning Fire on it, and take the +25% ammo skill in the bottom left, else you will regret it.
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>>560918081
>>560917992
sorry, not perks, the refinements. i cant access perks for that yet. will keep an eye for perks when i unlock them for the cs


>>560918153
>>560918149
noted both of your guys advices. thank you both a ton, itll help a lot for higher levels o7
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>>560918226
Here's a random tip, don't waste bolter shots on void shields, you're packing a chainsword, so rev it up and use that instead. Your ammo counter will thank you.
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>>560918149
>recon las,
>and las pistol
NTA but I should note that these use virtually identical builds, but the las pistol will gives you a repetitive strain injury if you don't use an autoclicker or mod to auto fire for you. I actually think the pistol is a good bit stronger than the recon las, but if you're not using an autoclicker, don't bother.
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>>560918321
noticed that as well. the shields dont seem to care about damage, so much as individual hits. and revving the cs rips the shield apart as it hits consecutively
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>>560918149
Wait the helbore isn't just a meme?

>>560918226
Yeah I was using the wrong terminology too no worries buddy, what I meant was the Blessings, those are pretty critical for a lot of weapons to "come online" and do their job right. But yeah, getting the right +damage types on your refinements goes a long way too.
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>>560918095
Ah yes this is where shitskins realize their only purpose in life is to annoy a white man
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>>560918381
ah, yes, okay, were both saying the same thing lol. agreed, the blessings have made a WORLD of difference. need play around with them more, but im really happy with the dam buffs
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Tech-remnants gonna be red dust in the future, right? From what I'm seeing there's no use to them besides getting through the penaces and unlocking gids. Am I missing something?
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>>560918381
>Wait the helbore isn't just a meme?
It's pretty underwhelming when playing with generic pubshitters who can't even hold their own, much less even dream of keeping the horde off your ass. Its greatest strength of having literally infinite ammo also literally doesn't matter outside of havoc, no ammo maelstroms, or possibly expeditions.
It's a good gun, there's just little reason to use it in most modes where you already have infinite ammo with virtually all guns.
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>>560916105
>>560916715
Oh btw smokebros do you know if the +25% explosion radius on Bolter Pistol affects these grenades? I was using that on Zealot at one point and it didn't seem like it was making my stun grenades any bigger.
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>>560918403
Anglos and fentanyl-americans are not white tho, only nordics, germans and french are.
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>>560918547
It affects everything that is coded as an explosion, even while you have the bistol pocketed.
Zealot grenades and smokes aren't coded as explosions iirc.
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>>560918323
>repetitive stress injury
It's bad, but not as bad as scum shivs I'd say. It's certainly better at clicking heads than the recon though, has a better crit rate and works better with deadshot. Personally I use it over the recon because it's easier to aim since it has holographic sights and the recon just has iron sights.

>>560918381
The hellbore is slower firing, but perfect for headclicking if you're good at that, it will pop most elites in specials in one shot. It struggles in a target rich environment though.
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Sorry if this is a dumb question but, talking about vet weapons made me remember I wanted to ask, what's the deal with the power falchion? Seems cool, but nobody recommends it, is it dogshit?
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>>560918748
Bad reach, mediocre moveset, poor damage. People were hoping for a power sword with a heat system like the Zealot's relic blade, but got garbage instead.
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>>560918748
It did get a buff that i haven't tested yet, but it so far it has just been a bad weapon
Overheats too fast, bad cleave, slow heavy attacks, low damage and attack patterns that are too complicated for such little payoff
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>>560918748
>>560918880
>>560918964
Controversial take, but I think it's pretty good at the things vet needs their melee weapon for, and roughly as good as your teammates are.
It melts trash, and vet should ideally not have to melee against anything but trash, so it's quite viable even in havoc 40.
The biggest downside is the opportunity cost of not just using the shovel instead and putting Skullcrusher on it, so you can yell at a boss and light attack it twice to get a fuckhuge damage buff. It might not kill hordes as fast, but it's as good at keeping you safe. Possibly better once you get good at special stabbing mutants in the face.

The biggest problem with the falchion is that it simply doesn't work with pubshitters, because pubbie builds need to be able to do everything, and your melee needs to be able to kill armor because you'll likely need your grenades for bosses that your shitters struggle with.
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>>560919365
It being "pretty good" at melting trash isn't much of an endorsement when there are weapons that are great at clearing trash and are actually useful against mixed hordes.
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>>560918403
>>560917661
Looks like you hit the nail on the head here
>>560910694
Funny image
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>>560919427
I agree, but you don't have to hyper-optimize every part of a build to be usable. The main takeaway is that it's good enough to be viable in havoc 40, so it can't be nearly as shit as most anons here would suggest it is.
It's a perfectly mediocre weapon. It's just worse than the power sword in every way that matters, except quality of life.
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>>560906016
The issue?
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>>560885576
>Says aurics are the only difficulty even modestly challenging
>meanwhile my ass has failed every expedition I've tried past Heresy
I got a long way to go, I guess.
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>>560906016
She's actually a 500 yen coin
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>>560913704
Fatshark not-so-secretly despises their playerbase, delights in getting them hyped for nothing (good old plasma gun!), betraying their expectations (look at all these mechanicus themed updates, hope you like hive scum!) and will drag their feet until forced to give what we want (the multiple reworks to unfuck crafting when it was as simple as removing locks). Fatshark may even despise themselves; imagine you're a Darktide dev and all you're ever told is to copy the Vermintide devs. Somehow they've lucked into a diehard playerbase that will still buy their shitty copy-pasted cosmetics every month and keep them all comfy in their jobs but eventually Fatshark will relent and Darktide will be fixed just in time for us to do this all over again with Vermintide 3.,
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>>560895570
they did hire us to do expeditions lol, i'm the creative director at toadman studios. personally i enjoy the mode, i enjoyed CW too but that had a lot of backlash also. just how it goes.
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So what happens if a dog jumps a packmaster? they sure hyped that up
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i don't think that constant whinging and complaining and never liking anything makes a person interesting or cool in any way, quite the opposite. just paints you as a hysterical woman. personally i play videogames for a dopamine release and don't stake my entire life on one.
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>>560920264
Leave the toxic positivity in the 2010s where it belongs.
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>>560920216
You shock your dog and it staggers the packmaster lol
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>>560919365
No. You can do better with a rashad which is completely braindead
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Nothing feels worse than losing about 1000 of the retarded tech points in expeditions and yet someone manages to survive to close the doors. So you get to just lose about 10 mins of time for no fucking reason since there's monster spawner doors right at the sanctuary behind you xdDD
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This new mode is actually so bad that it's making me mad. I'm just going to go buy RE9 or something and not play Darktide for a while because I am sick of getting pissed off by the absolute state of my favorite game. I don't like Helldivers and I don't want to play Helldivers and I don't want Helldivers in my Darktide. Imagine if FS had just released two traditional maps (or a map and an "operation") using this new tileset, one of which ended in an arena fight against the new packmaster? People would have eaten that up. Instead we got a new DOA slop mode that is already struggling to retain players. This might be dramatic but I actually feel betrayed at this point for putting up with Fartshark's shit for so long just to get this.
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Quickplaying expeditions is so fucking cursed, I spawn in already fucked up or in the middle of a god damn fight for my life and then I don't even get any of the scrap the team picked up before I joined so I can't buy shit, just limping along behind everyone else
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>>560922880
I like quickplay in general because then you get to be the guy that turns the whole situation around and save the day.
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>>560923380
y-yeah... back to the generalist build I go, I guess. Loading into a desperate situation with a hellbore and smokes just ain't cutting it, I'm too shitter to hero mode on anyone but Zealot I fear
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>>560923470
That's what you fucking get, smokeoid
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What's the point of doing Havoc? Just for the challenge of it? Any exclusive rewards? I just got done with my first Auric.
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>>560923598
I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP CAUSE OF THE SMOKEBROS SHILLING IT TO ME EARLIER, I'LL PUT THE KARKIN KRAKS BACK ON
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>>560923715
There are Havoc specific penances and you get a weekly reward of crafting materials based on your highest Havoc mission completed for the week.
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>>560923715
Challenge. Exclusive cosmetics (they're not that great, but there are 2 titles). Bragging rights (that you're able to do the absolute minimum; getting True Survivor can theoretically be carried, but you still need to be able to, y'know, stay alive).
For all the theoreticals about True Survivor being meaningless (it kinda is), it's still the most meaningful title in the game, and a vast majority of the player base will never ever achieve it, in spite of how "easy" it supposedly is to just get carried in a premade.
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>>560923715
Challenge, mostly. There IS a weekly reward payout of plasteel and diamante but these are relatively worthless since anyone still playing already has millions of these. Havoc is the poopsock game mode for people who find the base difficulties far too boring now.
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>play expeditions during degenerate hours
>easy runs, even on the hard modifiers
>play during normie hours
>havoc hardstuckie ranks left right and center, all of them suck, even 3 of them eat shit together
Man...
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>>560921380
this is a bit dramatic. I quite enjoy the mode. I expect we'll get a regular map in this biome at some point.
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Smokes are annoying pieces of shit and I hate every player who brings them. It's more important for me to see the enemy than it is to make the enemy not see me.
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fatshark should put an unskippable cutscene on booting up the game that gives you a tutorial on how to swap to your ranged weapon and shoot enemies that attack from range. this would greatly improve my auric quickplay experience.
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>>560927297
You're operating under the assumption that everyone is capable of learning
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why did they buff the weapon switching tree for arbites, it's so fucking boring
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>>560929321
because it was terrible. duh.
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>>560929321
No it's great, and then you run out of ammo
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>>560929472
>thought blessed armement gave you ammo for free
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>>560930789
>>560930789
>>560930789
>>560930789
>>560930789


bred
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>>560918513
Ammo doesn't matter almost at all in expeditions since you're guaranteed a full ammo pickup every couple of minutes.
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>>560830952
why is Noa looking at me?
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>>560914750
I'd tried micing up a few times before but no one reacted
It wasn't until I tested with a friend, I found out my mic is quiet as fuck



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