>Game Info:https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/>Marathon Game Home Page - News, Patchnotes, etc.https://www.marathonthegame.com/>Databases:https://tauceti.world/https://tauceti.gg/https://marathonmeta.gg/https://marathondb.gg/>LATEST PATCH NOTEShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_0_5>RANKED MODE COMING IN 2 DAYShttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/ranked_in_marathon>DISABLE MOUSE SMOOTHING1. Go to User\AppData\Roaming\Bungie\Marathon\prefs2. change "mouse_smoothing_mode" value 2 to 0 in cvars.xml and saveMisc:>MARATHON TERMINALS ONLINE IN DIRE MARSHhttps://cryoarchive.systems/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Xl543pQOw [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>SEASONS & ROADMAPhttps://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/introducing_seasons_marathon>MARATHON OST VOL. I & II OUThttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3mqJXB_rxXOGplviv8tGdXtHDdL9grK4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k_FhqMdjI4UChXwooy0VROM84xgCi8JM0>Play the Original Marathon for Freehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2398450/Classic_Marathon/>Official Discordhttps://discord.com/invite/marathonthegame>FAQ>What does the "Aim Assist" stat do for MnK players?Increases projectile size>How to get epic lootAny map events like Lockdowns, supply drops, transport drones, key rooms.>Will I like this game if I suckgo back to arc raiders>When PvE modego back to arc raiders / destiny>Muh playercountgreatPrevious Run: >>560746802
Game wont last the summer desu
when the fuck did they add impossible to knife to death sniper bots?
>queuing up with good gear just to lose it
>>560796341Last patch
I loved this game but I really just don't want to play it anymore after the cryo archive thing. Trios is such fucking slop compared to solos, if I wanted to play apex legends I would just play apex legends
>extract with 4.5K>both teammates extract with 13kalright
>>560796564trios is the only proper way to play the game, solos is such a dogshit afterthought of a mode its only value is farming blues off of retards to take into trios
>>560796394>losing gear to a stack of purple shields running br/snipers/shotties Hopefully they get bored of this sooner than later and go back to their old games /whatever new slop gets hyped like gta6
>>560796564is solos that much different? would you say better?i dont like the idea of all my matches being assassins
>>560796731solos plays like an atmospheric horror-themed stealth game, I love it
Everyone here will have no reason to believe anything I say, but the next week will reveal me to be correct.Cryo Archive is indeed one of the most complex game maps ever created. Cryo Archive takes the form of a vast three-dimensional maze that is larger than Perimeter, Outpost, and Dire Marsh combined; extreme verticality with multiple stacked floors is a core element. It is an almost unimaginable triumph of map design and complexity with dozen of secrets that likely won't be fully uncovered even up to the seasonal reset.The concerns, concerns which internally were dismissed due to what can only be described as a culture that has completely untethered and disassociated itself from reality, come from accessibility. There will indeed be filler queues for people trying to access Cryo Archives, but these individuals will likely not even be able to load into the map. Bringing a certain item to the upper floor of Complex in Dire Marsh once the ARG is complete will result in an exfil beacon being activated; other players can essentially kill you and your team before you even can access the Marathon. This was heavily hinted at in one of the trailers. PVP within the Marathon takes place in an unpredictable manner, with teams essentially being able to "drop in" to a match in progress up to a certain threshold. Cryo Archive functions as a semi persistent worldspace, without time duration's on runs. New instances get spawned eventually when everyone on a current map is dead or exfiled as a form of cleaning, but the unpredictability is a core element of the design and acts as another layer to essentially lock off the content from the vast majority of the playerbase. PVP is as core an element of the map as the vaults, with ambushes and unwinnable situations actively promoted by the map design. Multiple vaults have exits that are custom designed to turn into a slaughterhouse in a manner similar to certain exfil beacons on the other maps.
>>560796730the games only fun/playable the first 72 hours of a season and it quickly turns into a huge snowball of whoever has the shotgun/br33s and better shields and is on top of their game with a premade will continue to steamroll the rest of the season.i cant even think of playin again at this rate when every game will have blue/purple faggots every single game
>>560796731Solo is degenerate assassin and thief cheese and is literally for autistics down to waste their precious life sitting in a corner in a video game having a panic attack because its like so epic and pulse pounding they are having a BLAST
This game is so peak bros.
>>560796394I just don't bring any colored mods in; most I'll do is 1-2 to keep my weapon gray. Usually just don't care about the implants so if they're gone it's whatever. I'll sometimes see the runners we wipe run with whole stacks of health and charges and it's like bruh. I explictly bring in 1 green hp and charge and keep them as reserve for depleted I procure on site. If I ping and see blue shields I know it's probably a lost fight and signal to the randos we gotta scram. Usually works.
Again, to reiterate, this is all baked in. At multiple points throughout the development process, both playtesters and developers brought up concerns over the vast majority of the playerbase being unable to access or viably play this content. These concerns were dismissed with rhetoric calling back the raids in Destiny 1 and 2 and rhetoric about watchability on stream. Bungie has forecast dismal initial sales for Marathon as far back as September, and (over the objections of multiple individuals) has decided to gamble that Cryo Archive will be one of the top watched events on twitch in the history of gaming as a pathway to success. Obviously, I and others internally disagreed; Destiny 2 functioned as a captive population with raid content being supplemented by a vast variety of other activities and aspirational content that Marathon lacks. But the rest, as they say, will be history.One last thing. The two streamers that are being flown to Bungie HQ will be the first two people to set foot on the Marathon, this is part of the attempted virality twitch campaign. Nothing in the stream will be organic. There will be a "PVP team" that attempts to disrupt the streamers exfil to the Marathon on Dire Marsh that will be composed of Bungie employees who will be killed by the streamers.
>>560796641Someone has to be the lookout
>>560797058this post is bullshit but i believe it
I have plenty of shit in my inventory and I'm not hurting for cash but dying in this game still pisses me the fuck off idk why
>>560796801>>560797058Pardon, forgot to link back to the first post. I won't answer any further questions or give detailed information about the internal affairs at Bungie. Too risky, you understand.
is the schizophrenic larping also part of the ARG
>>560797058back in our day we just bought a game from the local toystore after seeing it in a magazine or commercial and put it in our videogame system and played it
>>560793984Tycho's been referenced.Leela's absence might imply that we'll find out she's gone post 2794 and was probably the first AI to be taken by the Phfor. The other absolutely retarded thing that's in my head for some reason is that ONI was developed on some sort of prototype version of Leela and for now that's what they're going to have us find out through a future codex entry.>>560791832Most of the corps/orgs feel incredibly retarded honestly except MAYBE Traxus and NuCaloric?>Arachne - literal death cult>CyAc - techno-optimism except corporate business fucking around with superintelligence >UESC - too busy either covering literally everything up, sitting on information for little reason (no one trusts them) and despite humanity being in a shitty situation has no resolve to fix anything>Sekiguchi - techno-optimist accelerationists who somewhat draw from SEELE, Tyrell Corporation (BR 2049) and ideas from Ghost in the Shell when it comes to how the cyborgs workMIDA is something else completely and honestly when you look at the UESC and corps its hard not to be on board with them. Traxus is a cold-hearted business but smart enough to not trust the UESC but more than willing to sign onto a project that would benefit humanity. NuCaloric are just the generic scumbag who'll fuck over the general population but compared to everyone else aren't entirely willing to kill everyone otherwise it hurts their business.
>>560796341>>560796538They've been in the game, but I've only ever seen them spawn at the infested little lab on Perimeter
which streamers are being flown to bungie HQ for cryo archive in 1 week?
Qrd on the recent drama? I've been snoozing and not online for days
Recon is underpoweredHaving played almost exclusively Recon for the first 30+ levels, it’s hard not to feel like she’s one of the weakest shells in the game right now.The tactical drone is inconsistent at best. It frequently struggles indoors, gets caught on roofs, or randomly returns and detonates on you.Her primary ability also feels underwhelming. It’s essentially a weaker version of a TAD scan. It doesn’t reveal shield color and doesn’t differentiate between UESC and actual players. That lack of distinction often distracts you to chase the wrong targets.On top of that, the scan itself is very telegraphed. Enemy players can clearly see the pulse, making it easy for them to track your general position. Since the scan isn’t continuous, it only gives a rough idea of enemy location and in many cases, simply relying on audio cues feels more effective.Compared to other runners who have strong mobility or high impact abilities, Recon doesn’t really offer enough to justify picking her. At a minimum, her ultimate should differentiate between players and UESC units. Ideally, the scan should also be continuous to provide real tracking value. Without changes like these, her kit just doesn’t compete with the strength and reliability of other characters.
I have a key for the pipe room or whatever its called in maintenence, on dire marshwhere is this exactly?
MarathonThe Raped
Any progress on the ARG? Is it true that it's all an illusion and they're just going to unlock Cryo Archive at a certain date?
>>560797309my headcanon is that Arachne is a bunch of transhumanists interested in how rampancy and death when applied to battleroids (and runners) can achieve some sort of apotheosis sorta like how MR54 unlocked some sort of superpowers in InfinitySekGen is trying to recreate battleroids and unlock immortality without all the flaws inherent to them via beating the fuck out of shellsMIDA (depending on how much you believe Strauss) could be construed to have intentionally let Durandal go rampant to study his behavior and see how far he goes rather than simply being an anti government terrorist group
>>560797691By far their best ability is the finisher ping. Being able to see the rest of the enemy team that is still up, no matter where they are on the map, regardless of whether they are signal jammed or not, can be very useful and has definitely secured a lot of uncertain fights for me.
I might buy this on ps5 too I have zero desire to sit at my desk rn and I just want to rook
>Only play trios fill and rook>Finally try out solos on outpost>Its literally just rook but when you kill someone you don’t have to account for 2 other people jumping you>bully bitchmade voids with destroyer shield>stab purple shield recon while wearing a free kit because her pings couldnt stop me turbo rushing her>exfil 15k+ loot every gameYou faggots told me solo was dogshit
>>560797887At least a week if the API and trends are accurate but also they can just fake it, and maybe already are who knows. I think the idea is there is one more "puzzle" after this too.
https://x.com/i/status/2034250365928173578LOL
>>560798060The people saying it's bad are bungie dicksuckers. Everyone here agreed it was the best way to play before yesterday.
>>560798060Nobody said that, Destroyer Solos is the best.
>>560798060>Believing /mg/
>>560797894Arachne is the most bizarre ones and actually somehow feel like the most surface level depsite MIDA being there. To be fair, MIDA's probably helped by the UESC being full-blown antagonists, but they also are the ones that probably leaked the original Durandal message and therefore let everyone corp/runner to even know about the UESC Marathon being at Tau Ceti.That or it was the UESC who did that and they're legitimately playing 4D chess to make some kind of war on Tau Ceti and try and trap some of the corps in some binding legal case via "leaking" it. Kinda like how Bungie has to reveal important ARG hints otherwise people never solve it.
If you are playing Outpost with a sponsor kit I'm going to exfil right away and leave you playing duos
>>560798302This is basically the same thing Destiny did with the Traveler
my solo runs last 2 minutes...
>>560798449Dont care, i'm just here to grief :)
>>560798449>if you try to waste my time i will allow you to waste my timemost intelligent trios player
>>560798519I like solo runs more than trio but i like duo more than solo and trio and trio less than solo and duo
there a chance the games gonna get a decent discount soon during spring salesaw alot of the old pvp players from d2 say its good and all but just for extraction alone cant really say its worth 40 to me
If lots of people play solos they will improve the solo experience!
>>560798302I'm waiting for Orion to inevitably defect
>sneak up on a rook>it starts spam crouching>i do too>yay look at us we're friends>i'm looting his bag two seconds latergo play arc raiders
The thief grapple "tech" is really causing a lot of discourse isn't it lol. It's so obviously unintended and yet people seem to be coping really hard about wanting it to stay.
>>560798116I seriously have no idea what they were thinking with adding thermal scopes into a game that, by their own admission of implementing fog, tries to make long shots over a map with a ton of open space a little more difficult. Some of these maps are simply too open in the first place with little cover and height advantage, and it'll just lead to people mad-sprinting to camp POIs or extracts even more.
>>560798584>5 minutes to exfil in extremely safe areas (got some cool heat grenades and AV/mechanic kitsvs>a botched 20 minutes duo run against purple kitters
>>560797642I never saw one before the patch lol
https://x.com/i/status/2034414771445829777Ninja reminding that some streamers often choose to play stuff for the watchability and viewer counts -- not just a desire to play certain new games.This is why charts and viewer counts are not reviews. All that is often just general interest or popularity. So, if you're interested in new game discussion, reviews, etc., be sure to also get out there and find content creators and reviewers that specialize in that.And you have to remember there are a ton of gamers that only play a few games a year. Which is fine. But it's also why you so often see only a handful of games reach critical mass unlike so many others.
>>560797642>>560798936They are somewhat rare but they can basically spawn at any high point in POIs, I've seen them a handful of times on the catwalks on Station.
bungie rape cannot come soon enoughmost of their decisions are retarded but seeing the history of destiny, unsurprising. cant wait for the epic streams though!
>shills are so desperate they're straight up copypasting r*ddit stuff in here to keep the threads alivegrimmall you had to do was implement SBMM
>>560798975>/mg/ is porn addicts and chartposters and the guy who regurgitates gaming articles and now you're reposting tweets with reddit formattingmaybe marathon really was a mistake
>>560799115We need Arc Raiders system if Bungie wants to introduce maps with "raid level" puzzles or bosses.
BUNGIEGIVE MEFIRING RANGE
>>560799220no care bears
POOP
Crimson Desert shat the bed so Marathon is safe until the next big release, thank goodness
>>560798060how is solo outpost? whats your strat when you solo there
>>560798060solo is objectively easier
The whole “this isn’t arc raiders” meme awful, and it’s not even a clever advertisement from the studio, it’s edgelords playing this game trying to come off as cool. >this ain’t arc raiders lil broShit gives me cringe goosebumps. We get it son, you’re a hardcore gamer and everyone needs to “GitGud”.
How Ranked actually works Earn RP by hitting your loot score target Exfil = gain RP Die = lose RP Leave early = no progress Everything depends on your performance + riskThis isn’t just PvP… it’s survival strategy
>>560799409>Crimson Desert shat the bedwhat happened I heard it has denuvo and that's all.
>>560799793i just don't want care bear matchmaking
>>560799820So it's just gonna incentivize you to kill other players like every other mode. What's the difference besides no freekit shitters?
The pve in this game is kinda shit, enemies are just boring damage sponges. At least with scavs you could drop them in one headshot and move on
>>560799793i just dont like this "its hardcore bro you just dont get it" ways of balancing shit.
>>560799883Hence why people asking for a PvE mode will be disappointed honestly.
>>560799793>hardcore gamer>no SBMM>no tournaments or cashprizeshalobabies never change
>game is worse than the call of duty dmz mode while taking thrice as long to makeKekypow
>>560799820looks pretty hardcore, not sure if I can handle it
anyone else not having fun? i mean you get stuff to maybe have fun next time
>>560799996the thing is...they dont have to be shit
>can't wait for this game to die>i'm so tired of this game>game lives>game does well>i really thought it was gonna die>game keeps living>*shrug*
>>560799883Yeah it's kind of annoying since the UESC sight range, gun damage, and overall aggression is incredibly fucking low unless they're right in front of you. A player will ALWAYS be more dangerous
>ui is so atrocious you can't even tell what's the reward for extracting anomalywtf?
>>560800075I guess. It's the only game I sort of have fun speaking in.
>>560800126sassy triage gif
>>560800119>game does wellNigga on that 70's cuban grade copium
>>560797058Considering Bungie's history of making bad decisions in the past with D2, I believe it.
>>560800096Yea but making a PvE mode would require actual work and so far they've done little in terms of actual work and I don't expect them to do anything substansial for another few months. A (good) PvE mode would take>a good 2-3 months to develop along with tying into progression and contracts>probably like 1-2 to test properly
>>560800224>see people telling me i'm coping>genuinely don't care if game lives or dies>it keeps living anyway
>>560800119the game is currently dying faster than ever
>>560800264They could quite easily implement a MIDA modehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ya1hw2ASqo
It was better when the freekits had less ammo and you had to just figure shit out
>>560800119the game is poisoned. its terminally ill.it was born with aids.its only a matter of time
>>560800140It's just auto-sold, it's 2k credits (lol) and you get a lore entry
I've hit my terminal fatigue with this game, it's not bad it's not great. It's mediocre at best feeling like some early access title slap dashing and patch working other modes because ziegler is a fucking moron that needs to be shot in the face. It sucks because the gunplay feels a lot snappier and nice than destiny's but it really feels hampered on the wasted potential with no real sense of direction at times.
>>560800305>>560800379>wonder if that's true>check charts>literally nothing has changed>game keep sliving
>>560800406>cope out my mind>deny reality>le shrug
>>560800353honestly the first day and server slam was good. before they changed gun sounds, ammo count, and everyone got shotguns and snipers, it was a fun gamenow? garbage. if they did a free kit only mode or whatever, id play only that mode
>>560800454>told i'm coping out of my mind>check the charts again>nothing has changed>if reality is not reality then what is charts>invert my body
>>560800517could you let me know what 54,326 - 51,213 is?
>>560800482yeah i liked the feeling of running out of ammo and having to figure it out, i still do but it's after fighting like 12 bots
>>560800406>losing 5% players everydayImagine your bank account lost 5% everyday, you wouldnt call that fine. Now imagine being a sony suit.
>>560799882>What's the difference besides no freekit shitters?That alone is the reason ranked will save the game
>>560800646>the player count is fluctuating the same way it always does for every game ever but surely THIS TIME sony will notice and send the death squad to bungiegive it up lil bro it's getting pathetic
>>560800876that's the single largest drop the game has seen on a weekday and it's obviously continuing to trend down. this is what i meant by denying reality lol
>>560800482I'd prefer something based more on this https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Survival. But, it sucks there's barely vE here save for the fucking PoI bots and random weather. Like, Tau Ceti should feel like an inhospitable shithole at times. Like, have the cascade possibly show up on the other maps or have fucking the anomaly fuck our shells up. We already have the deadly combat down, but the environment itself needs patrolling UESC as standard with the weather being a massive game changer to certain maps. Hell I'd be happy with a map that's mostly pitch black night shift kinda mode
>>560800876>Crimson Desert is painfully averageFrankly I am shocked!
>>560800405The biggest problem the game has right now is that it has maybe 20-40 hours or enjoyable gameplay loop (that might be enough for some people to consider a success) and then after that you're fatigued because you're stagnating with nothing to do, constantly stomped or you're the guys stomping the lobby and eventually even then you'll wonder what the fuck you're doing and what the point of it all is.Ultimately, there is no changed "gameplan". You go in on the assumption of either somehow avoiding everyone else or camping, or you go in with the confidence that you're going to engage in PvP and kill everyone.That doesn't change for you doing contracts because the maps simply aren't big enough for starters, the matchmaking matches you with people doing the same contracts and the contracts constantly have you go into the same 4 POIs on the map. You'd be going there anyway even if you had no focus or desire to do contracts.This isn't a complaint about there being no PvE or PvP or whatever. It's a weird case where the quests/contracts despite being relatively more interesting than the rest of the genre have near no impact on gameplay. Even in like ARC Raiders which is easy as fuck, there are SOME quests where I'll probably tweak my loadout to have an easier time. Or go lighter on the loadout if its something that requires interacting or carring a lot of items, or use an augment with more safety pockets, or use a snap hook/zipline. In this why would I ever not run Assassin/thief/my best loadout for a quest?
>no Winchester repeater type gun>No DMT type gunGame sucks
>>560800982two more weeks bro just give it two more weeks i promise this time it'll die and it'll be concord 3 bro please trust me bro just two more weeks it'll die bungie is finished bro please
>>560801093>no Winchester repeater type gunRetard???
>>560800646The 24 hr peak was 54,414 you retard.
>>560801148at the current rate of decline the peak playercount in two weeks will be 12,000
all destiny chuds and dad raiders, please refer to the FAQ.
>Open drawer>Objective falls into limbo>Forced to extract >At least i killed a purple UESC and got a cool backpack.
>>560800654plus you could run into someone and maybe they'd have no ammo so it would add an extra layer
>>560801210I'm comparing the same hours of the day you retard. today's peak hasn't happened yet. it will be about 3,000 players lower than yesterday's.
>>560801267remember kids linearly extrapolating from very limited data always works
>>560801416it's one degree warmer today than yesterday, the earth will be finished by winter
>>560801416the actual curve would put it lower than that, 12,000 is me being generous
>>560801267
>>560801416By my calculations this baby should weight 5 trillion tons by age 8!
How the fuck are you supposed to get better at this game when 98% of your time is walking around doing nothing of consequence and 2% is fighting
This game is just a huge waste of time, are all multiplayer shooters like this or are all extraction shooters like this? I have limited time on earth, after that...nothing.I don't like playing this shit no more, I'll load in maybe to cryo with both keys if it has random fills but if not im out
>>560801267You should read this.
>here is your EXTREMELY LIMITED FUCKING STASH SPACE>HAHA YEAH THATS RIGHT HTIS GAME IS HARDCORE! YOU DONT GET TO KEEP A LOT OF LOOT!>OH WAIT THE CREDIT CAP IS TEN MILLION>HERE LET ME FUCKING THROW 10 TRASH ITEMS AT YOU AFTER EVERY QUEST WITH NO WAY TO TURN THEM DOWN>NOW MANMUALLAY TAKE OUT THE TRASH EACH AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIMEim about to fucking lose it. SONY? BUNGIE? NIGGERS
>>560801723You use that time to plan out how you approach each compound properly from every possible direction you could enter it from. Which areas expose you to lines of fire, flanks, rooftop positions.
>>560800405That really is what hurts Marathon the most. There are things to really like about it and its definitely not as bad as I thought it'd be, but it feels more like a side mode to a larger game like Cawadooty, Titanfall, The Division, Halo 5/Infinite, any number of big multiplayer games. Unless they have a lot of content in store like a PvP only deathmatch/team-based competitive mode, or tons of maps on the way outside of night-time variants this game is going to be forgotten outside of "the game with fun gunplay, a neat world and a polarizing art direction".
>it's dead Jim>it's changing drastically every day>shrug
>>560801076The game has two big problems with loot balancing>solo experience is miserable for everyone because unsurprisingly solo sucks in a game not designed for it, people with high-tier loot will be in lobbies probably with free kitters constantly where they might just get caught out and die from them and free kitters are just farmed >trios experience is miserable for everyone running free kits or mid tier loot because the mid-tier gives absolutely nothing back to you in terms of what you invest and you can't beat out people in teams running high-tier lootChoices are incredibly binary or an illusion. For a game that needs to have a hardcore dedicated userbase, especially with the expectations it supposedly has and no doubt the cost of running Bungie + live service? The depth is not as deep as initally it seems.
>>560802195what a nice clean downward curve
>>560800075yeah, I get a fun moment here and there when playing with friends, but desu 90% of the time playing is boredom or frustration. the contracts fucking suck and its an insane grind to upgrade shit when it all gets reset in a month or two. basically every outpost game plays out the same way, and a good 80% of the loot is worthless dogshit polluting the pool like "gain 5% tactical energy when your shield break"the raped
>>560802195Those are really good metrics for a weeks spread of day to day population variances if you account for people not always playing 24/7.
Anyone who makes a claim without backing it up deserves the same amount of attention and respect they give. Ask them to back their claims up and watch and they suddenly turn blind and deaf.
>>560802395but it's dying. look at how dead it is. >keeps living
>>560802216I never actually thought of the idea of mid-tier loot being shit but that does make a lot of sense as to why it feels like there's constant extremes going on.
>>560802523generally things that are in the state of dying are still alive. that's what the word means
>pve players will never get it by their own handshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T9Yygju9IY
>>560802632>not the skin everything factoryBack to the drawing board bub
>add people>play few games>i suck so much they dont want to play with me>repeat ad infinitumi want to die i'm so bad i cant even make friends
>>560802589clearly it's dying too fast though>lives very stable life
>>560800075This game is my comfort game.
>>560802732very stably declining
>>560802672i stole that from reddit and cropped out the tiktok watermark and it bothered me too and i didnt change it so we're all going to have to live with this from now on
>mod 1>deal slightly more damage with your thimby toves for one picosecond after you do 7 cartwheels in a row while under the effects of fent laced indica>mod 2>remove your hitbox from the map when you look at an enemy>they are the same rarity and worth the same amount of credits
>>560802809FUCK
>no one's touched pinwheel>first tteam there>little rook faggot behind us>somehow baits the thief into getting killed>rez thief and now pinwheel is off the table because the faggot wants to exfil because he's crying about dying to the rookUnreal
>>560802880Unreal Engine or Unreal the game from 1998?
>>560802818>bungie is heavily rewarding the mildest amount of attention and focus paid to how you assemble your loadout to help attentive players eat the distracted and lazy players>complaining about that
>>560802027>>560801076Yeah, pretty much hitting the nails on the head. I guess I'll just sit on the sidelines and see what happens in the next two months
>>560802794which is indistinguishable from living normally
>>560802794I'd post the Schrodinger cat meme if I could. Instead, please use the gen-slop engine of a brain you have to imagine a marathon-skinned version of it.
>>560803169there's that denying reality again lol
>>560800747See you tomorrow same time :)
>>560803105I'm not bringing an OS debug or whatever and using it in the middle of a fight to get a negligible buff to some part of my kit that only works in a very specific scenario I'm not sure I'm ever even gonna be in man
>>560803263>denies reality>denies that living is dying stably >am i even alive>escape will make me god
>>560803350>posts in mentally ill way>incapable of facing the real world>doesn't even know what words mean>im so quirky and above it all
>>560803263>I am not dead>I am constantly dying>I am not alive>Escape will make me god
>makes all my text green
>>560803471>posts incredulous and contradictorily>reeks of psychosis>replies to me because he seeks reassurance of his own existence>i turn 360 degrees and walk backward
>>560801857Huh? they increased it significantly last patch
>>560801739I recommend not playing with randos if you don't want to waste your time then
greentext will make me god
>>560800747Wandanon please just move on
>>560803629well at least you're vaguely self aware
bros why are the players dropping and its only week 2? we have over 400k discord mods!
>>560801739>This game is just a huge waste of timeisn't that how all games started out? to waste time in between homework and bed?
>>560800747If no-one replies to your cries of attention will you post videos of yourself naked? I'm sure that will get you more attention now that everyone can detect your patternn of engagement begging.
Called a team bunch of niggers for extracting whole chasing them as a rook. They all whined about reporting me Many such cases
Seriously though where do you guys think the player base will drop to? 40k? 30k? 20k?!?! I think 40k.
>>560804130depends on how things go with cry archive. today bungie started mocking people on discord which is a pretty bad sign historically
>>560804130>40kWar Hammer collab confirmed??
>>560804130it's not my business
>>56080413025k within 3 weeks after everyone realizes cryo was streamerbait slop, then bungie will announce plans for a pve mode (it will take them over 1 year to release)
>>560804186Screenshots?
>>560804130nothing gets me blistering like knowing that developers cant even play their own game correctly
>>560804287apparently people were copy and pasting this guy's message to shit on him and the official account joined in on it. idk the redditors are debating it intensely
>>560804186I'd love to see some proof if that's true. It would be hilarious to spread online.
>>560803919Yes, but I think when people say the game is a waste of time they more mean that the time investment in terms of what you put into the game's systems results in diminished returns due to the genre and the design of the game.
Realistically how is this game going to be able to release a new raid/zones frequently enough to justify resets?I would say a studio crunching could probably do it in 3 months, but back to back and consecutively? What is the lifespan you give on a crew in the MMO mines? A year? Two?
>>560804186Got any proof to back that up?
>>560803719>ammo stacks>certain purple salvage stacksI was already not hoarding ammo because im not a retarded poorfag and only keeping 10 of each purple so I gained basically NOTHINGalso making ammo stack is not a significant increase you fucking dumb cancer nigger kill yourself
>be assassin>team glues to your ass wherever you goI WANT TO BE STEALTHYLET ME BE STEALTHY YOU NIGGERS
>>560804406That actually was my doing, fuckers aren't paying me to keep tabs on you tards.
>>560804406Oh. That is the lightest, whitest, half-full glass of milk mockery I have seen this year. The only thing that sets it apart is who said it.
>stable concurrent player band (no decay trend)>strong daily return pattern (retention signal)>event participation is high and sustained>output (kills/min) is consistent with player count>peaks are flat, not growing>no sign of viral expansion or breakout growth>looks like a mid-tier steady population>if there's a major content drop growth will spike>if there's not a major content drop player counts will stay in the same band>sitting in the sustainable middle>shrug
>>560804406Huh so Marathon is how they want the company to die. Wonder if someone at the top of Bungie is making decisions to just get most of the company fired on purpose.
>>560804627well yeah it's not like they called him a nigger but people spilling their spaghetti publicly like this usually means things are really not going well at the office
>>560804406I'm buying the deluxe upgrade right now just because of this
>>560804769This isn't even pasta-pockets. It's "How do you do felllow kids" tier. It's a suit doing the water-bottle flip trick.
>>560804630thanks anongpt, flawless analysis
Wonder if Marathon is gonna have the same issues that Destiny had with netlimiting
Cryo archives will make me god
>>560804630>>stable concurrent player band (no decay trend)>losing players week to week, day to day
After 2 weeks of cryo you'll see a fat player falloff
i feel like i have the most fun playing solos since playing with a bad team is awful
>>560805323Rollback code.
i exfiled and the game said right after i lost connection to the server??lost all my gear and my contract step i finished (which didn't have a "in one run" or "exfil" requirement) reset to the beginning??was it because i was the last one or something?
>>560805140It's a PR person joining in publicly mocking some random person who wrote a complaint they've doubtless heard many times in the past couple days. It's extremely naive to think they don't know what they're doing.
>>560805323Unlikely no, fully dedicated servers on Bungie's side so destiny's netlimiting isn't really possible. ESP at least for players is definitely still a thing though.Extraction shooters attract cheaters. I would genuinely not be surprised if Russians start developing solely because they've been blocked from purchase/service, Tiger engine is somewhat well-documented. BattlEye even more so.Whether or not people want to bother considering Destiny 2 cheating was so fucking easy and simple and Bungie didn't change methods for years? I dunno. In a way, them never touching cheating methods kinda made it so people paid less attention to actually developing more cheats.
>>560805770why are russians wasting their FUCKING time on cheats for a FUCKING bungie game when they can be working on space technology to be the first ones to colonize the solar system??
>>560805859Because dumb people will pay lots of money for cheats, and those cheaters can charge others money for getting them through cryo or for guaranteed contract completion.
>>560805707Understandable. When you can't call a retard a retard when its retarded face is retarding everything up, the stress can leak out in undesirable ways.So was it ill-training or thoughtlessness?
>>560805694its because they fired all their QA years ago and no one tested anything in this fucking game, get used to it
>>56080413025k in 1 month.15K in 2.All bad players are already leaving in droves. They know they cant see the content they paid for so they're not happy at all.
>>560806154this kind of behavior is pretty much always seen coming from floundering studios
>>560806291I'll assume you're talking from personal experience and not hopeful thinking.
>>560800075>anyone else not having fun?The TTK is unplayable
so is it better to bring in a backpack with one gun and like 3 stacks of ammo than to freekit? because with freekitting, i find the limited backpack space worse than having no heals.
>>560806439
>green shield was like 750>glanced at it after a match and it's 900 nowInflation hitting pretty hard I see... thanks drumpf!
>>560806502Suck my dick
>>560800384wrong
>>560806790before the last update that was all it did, now i think it additionally gives a random piece of loot
>>560806678opened your pants and there was nothing
>>560806489Well yeah but you could lose the backpack
I can't wait for ranked>No sponsored kit shitters, you put your gear on the lineFucking finally
Another beautiful 50k day
>be thief>see gold item in a random outpost locker>.....>its a V99 channel rifle schemakys
>>560807041Yeah but I have like 20 backpacks from all the missions I need to burn through.
>>560807142we're creeping closer and closer to not hitting that number...
>>560807220Then great
>>560802854i also have this one that that i left the tiktok watermark on :)
>>560806489Just the gun in your hand and three spare mags. Keep your back empty for loot.
Its always cool getting into pinwheel but a thief team already made it through the cargo wing
>>560807224Then why aren't you masturbating right now? Where's your steamcharts? Why are you ashamed of playercount now?
>no SBMMdead game
>>560804406You just respond with some snark about how you'll still have a job in 6 months and good luck finding someone else to pay you to be a faggot on Discord etc etc and this guy is instantly BTFO and thinking about it for weeks I guarantee it.
>>560807224Ermagehrd
>>560805694>>560806162well i guess complaining worked again, loaded the same map and completed the contract + was able to find loot equivalent to what i brought in previously lole
https://x.com/i/status/2033851013812150480This needs to go. Thief can already do so much already, this is just too much. Marathon isn’t Destiny, and Marathon isn’t Apex. It’s slower with only specific abilities giving you that speed, this is not one of those. This is an oversight and needs to be addressed
>>560800747>I dont like this game anymoreSame, game's too punishing
>>560807443I think it has level based matchmaking
>>560807435i dont understand what this post is saying, is the idea that im masturbating to the playercount falling? why would i be doing that if i was ashamed of the numbers being too high i guess? can you explain what this is supposed to mean
Can we talk about how weird the iteration of toggle push to talk is in marathon.They added it in the patch yesterday which was sweet but it’s so weird.I expected to just click once open mic. Click again close mic.But instead it’s like click once and it opens for a bit while you are talking but if you stop then it closes and randomly it’ll close on you mid sentence. Then click again when you want to talk againAm I the only one confused by this?
im so glad console subhumans arent enjoying the game! :)
>>560807582Doesn't her grapple have a cooldown after you use it once?
>ranked mode is coming soon>it's only a week long as a beta>duos is coming soon >it's only a two week betaThis game was built with fucking awful design choices and a valorant retard
CRYO ARCHIVE ARG UPDATEWe need more people for the Discord activity (desktop only). It calibrates the connection every 3 minutes. Join up: cryoarchive.systems/control
>>560807741There's a gold core where you can use it twice before it recharges iirc
Bros... I can't do it...I suck at PvP... I can't make the plays...I'll be stuck picking up the scraps forever
>>560807892Ah ok
>>560807631>play 10 games>exfil once (only game no team found us)I'm having such a blast!
>>560807653Wrong person. Unless you are any if the people saying Marathon only has a week/month/season left to 0 players, then you're the right person.
>>560807918Literally just LFG then
>>560807891fuck it i'll join, even if i probably don't have a chance on the Cryo map i'll give it a shot
>>560807940Maybe give solo mode a whirl >>560807961
>>560807843Woah it's kinda like Bungie did a GDC presentation where they talked about how they under deliver everything to not set expectations high. Leading to them dropping an unfinished game faggots slurp up anyways but "WOAH LOOK AT THE LEGENDARY COMEBACK!". When the game finally feels content complete half a year from now.
Why the fuck is this general so adamant on sucking bungie's cock? Just because you want to play the game doesn't mean everything bungie does is right.
>>560807582Include a HEAT penalty where not fully deploying the grapple maxes your HEAT. You can still do the Vandel-cancel, but make sure you need it.
>>560807891>We need more people for the Discord activityyeah i think ill pass. wasnt bungie bragging about how big their discord was earlier today
>>560807702I was confused for a moment before I realized it’s just fucking retarded like half the other choices in this game and that this company is full of incompetent freaks stealing paychecks
>>560807918Just quit, this game isnt for you.It's not even worth investing time to get more skilled, the already good players are also getting better when you play.
>>560808149Should be asking why people who piss blood in anger at the thought of Bungie keep on coming back to these threads.
>>560808149I just love Bungie bro
>>560807702>>560808176Sorry to be clear yes I had the same issue and just switched back to hold
>>560807891>it's a fucking memory tile game
>>560807741You can use it unlimited times, the momentum the grapple gives applies before the grapple is actually deployed and if you cancel quick enough you'll carry it without losing the grapple.
Bungie really have gotten high as fuck on their own farms, everything they post comes off as so snide and edgy.They've really bought into this idea it's it's exclusive hardcore gamers only club.
>played for 10 hours today>only had 3 (three) succesfull runsYeah I think I'm quitting.
>>560808149pretty typical /vg/ general death spiral, they're going to start doing the no replies thing soon
>>560808416It is so what brings you here?
>>560808385>when you have to rip a fat one and someone is in the elevator with you
>>560808149We love Bungie because they shit on Destiny for being such a piece of shit dad game
Uninstalling
>>560804451They already can’t justify the first reset, dire marsh (night skybox) coming in July(?)
>>560808530Shut up you sycophantic retard, I like the game and you don't have to attack everyone that indicates even slight negativity like some fucking Bungie golem.
>>560808646I like it too :)
>>560808537>5 headshots within the damage range of the AR and it couldn't even down a guy with white shieldsHoly fuck the Ovverrun is complete dogshit.
>>560807843>forgot the image I'm getting tired
>ranked has an entry cost>the only saving grace for bottom 30% players is gatekept from themLOL
>>560807918https://youtu.be/l_T7KZEv6L0?t=74
>>560808775can't have free kitters in ranked
>>560808737My aim >>560808629
>>560807702the game isn't balanced around push-to-talk
>>560808629jesus christ even after missing half your shots and him being one shot, he still took you to half health
>>560808928My brother, you just responded to a bungie bot reposting reddit content to engagement bait.
>>560809130Which reddit post?
Please post more stuff like this where people get ambushed and survive. I'm tired of seeing stuff where people are at range shooting each other.
>>560808496>Oh god what am I going to do if people won't credit me for my shitposts?>I'll have to shit in another general
I'm thinking based
>>560809382This is what I meant when I said they're smelling their own farts. Come on dude what the fuck are we doing here?
>>560809307The one and only time I will ever use this shit gun
>>560809130That’s ok I’ll take that over thief and vandal gooners and chartfags. It’s actually a useless toggle because it untoggles itself if you’re not breathing into your mic and making a steady sound. It’s almost maliciously bad, why would they possibly not just add a plain, function toggle mic on and off option. Trying to reinvent the wheel with a fucking triangle in more ways than one with this game
>>560809548me I'm doing my homework
>>560809382what's dumb is that it still incentives you murder all other teams over looting so how's this any different except there's no freekits?
>>560809640nice, I like this
>>560809315ok well thanks for proving my point
>>560809658you get rewarded for looting
>>560809642>Sometimes when I mic-toggle I forget to toggle-off>Okay. I'll make it so toggle-on only lasts for a short while and only stays toggled if its actively hearing something above a threshold.>Cool. Feature added.Then they made it default and never got around to the new bug-reports.
>>560809548bungie has been so far up their own asses for so long it's completely insane to me that they still have fans
>>560809853Runners already have holotags and expensive guns so there's still no incentive to fuck around looting shit aside from meds
>Absent minded vandal>Running around and ignoring pings>The other teammate is at least cooperative>Vandal gets downed by a rook>Revive them but they're afk>Downed by another rook>hear footsteps, it's ANOTHER rookwell thanks i guess.
>560809834I look forward to driving you out just by refusing to reply to you.
actually i can do the no replies thing just fine and even its posting style i just dont think its very healthy for the thread
>>560809973She's just a slut for ROOK dick. They can ping that from great distances.
>>560810102ya in vr chat
>>560810196Mama mia!
>hum ackshually no skill based matchmaking is better you kids dont get it>Yeah just leave this game isnt for you we're hardcore>oh you're leaving too? hm its fine i guess>NOOOO PLEASE DONT LEAVE BRO I CANT STAND THOSE 5 MINUTES QUEUESYou brought this upon yourselves
>>560810196>console fag continues to demonstrate why most think they're retarded
>solo clips is just being a ratty faggot>squad clips are next to nothing>if there are squad clips its just a whole team gettin melted in 5 secondsi see why no one likes watching this game compared to arc raiders
>>560810196watching console players loot feels like fucking slow motion holy shit
>>560810196what a faggot
no 100k?
>>560810341hey can you delete this please bungie specifically designs their games for streamers
something a higher ttk would fix. everyones afraid of engaging because you die too fast.literally every issue in this game is because the ttk is a little low
>>560810301>5 MINUTES QUEUESI've never had anything more than a 30s queue.
>>560810341>this game compared to arc raiders
>>560810509They should experiment with a Tarkov game mode where everyone is shunted into the same match. Trios, Duos, Solos and Rooks. Increase the round timer by 10 minutes and disengage safety protocols.
>>560810583You expect these nogames to not lie? They'd choke to death
>>560810341Arc won.
>hear someone come up behind me at a DECON while i was depositing>finish depositing and run behind the building, gun at ready>hear them go inside, then silence>we both wait for each other to make a move>this goes on for 5-7 minutes till one minute remains>other runner chickens out and hear them try to run to the exfil>i run from behind, gun them down, they're a thief>engage supah run and head to the final extractin the end, i was the bigger rat. sometimes you have to be one when you're going up against them
>>560810675Wouldn't really work since there's no suppressors and the maps too small
>>560810675that might make rooks seem pointless on the surface but they still can come in late anyway
>>560810509I was agreeing with him until the "le make friends" bullshit like holy hell shut the fuck up bro you run a premise fucking christ
the ttk in this game is so atrocious, who signed off on this?
>>560810626rope yourself
>>560810756There are suppressors though they are just super rare.>>560810758I've heard that Rooks fill lobbies in Trios as people start dying/leaving.
>>560810583I was implying a near future you mongoloid.
>>560810795me
screencapped this larping schizo in case it becomes true
>game is losing 5k players per day no wonder matchmaking times are so bad
>>560811147damn son, i guess that's why they held off on reviews
>>560796136cryo archive tracker LOLhttps://marathon.winnower.garden/cryoarchiveNINE DAYS LEFT
I review Vandal's ass with my tongue
>>560811239Got an annotated screencap to prove that?
I can see people having a fit over some of these mastery challenges for how inconsistent they can be. Been having shit luck with the “do the drone steal on a down player who has a self revive” because people think it basically doesn’t count being on them when they’re mid animation use of it, but I managed to randomly get it on a rook who was self rezzing, he got up, and I hit him again with drone, and that’s what let it count. My guess is ravioli code bungie fuckery and programming of how it all counts. I got the steal from 3 runners counting from AI so I’ll call it even
>Wake up>Look at the chart>See thisMan, what the fuck?
>>560810626I'm about to play arc raiders, this looks fun.
im about to go to destiny general and remind them that their game is fucking dead no matter how much they shitpost in /mg/
>>560811498?
>Losing the bottom 5% of your playerbase because no SBMM is good because uhhh... i can larp as hardcore when i'm still playing once sony pulls the plugMENTALLY ILL
>>560811570sounds like you're trying to bait them into coming here
>>560811147>pay 40$>only streamers get to play all of the content
>chartposters are back online>it's only a matter of time until the porn addicts wake up from their nocturnal sleep pattern and complain the drinkable cheeseburger doesn't have two cocks in place of straws>4chan used to be the meme capital of the internet and now all the memes are stolenwhat's the point just shut the whole thing down
>>560810509I've only had the chance to play Duos three times total and have straight up had the exact opposite experience. One game was normal, people moving around, two other crews found, one extract, one other crew presumably died elsewhere. The other two runs were blue/purple shields turbo aggressing fuckin everywhere, at least 3 crews spawned right around Overflow in one and we were unlucky enough to spawn with a turret facing us.
>>560811498There's more players online during the dead hours than yesterday. Things are looking positive. They must have something they enjoy that keeps them coming back.
>>560811425steam charts
>>560811147Just here to confirm that yeah that's a larping schizo.
why on earth are matchmaking times so long? there's zero reason I should have to wait 4-5 minutes to get a match
>>560811802I paid 40€ and i cant even play outpost.Whenever i get to it i cant exfil.
>>560811904So no. Thanks for coming by, hope you enjoy your visit.
>>560812000>why on earth are matchmaking times so long?
>>560811953i have no clue about the map itself, sounds a bit too grand the way he describes it so its probably bullshit. but the streamer part is basically reality already for most new games that come out. guess thats why he said it, to try and make it appewar more believable
>>560812000All bronze players are leaving bro.Another sweat L
>>560811953>just here to confirm this isn't true>just trust me bro
>>560812054>>560812120If it's this bad now I can't even imagine how much worse it will be when Ranked and Cryo are added
lookin forward to that sweet weekend high
>>560810509These are the same fucking pantloads slobbering like dogs that this is a real man’s game no CoD kiddies allowed , you need every thing to hurt and be heard from 100 light years away, the low ttk is good don’t change it! Never once have these idiots ever talked about the bad mixture of having a low ttk when you have weapons that basically fire in a straight line and have aim assist for days with no bullet drop off. No I don’t think the game needs to be serious hardcore but the fact these idiots want to have their cake and eat it too is obnoxious. Muh tactical hardcore positioning, in a game where hero powers exist
Stupid bitch
>>560811659Serious question,what would sbmm even be in a game like this, how would you quantify things ? I feel like the criteria would be way too out of whack to have something work or compute in an equal way. If my shit ass can go into pin wheel and get some stronger weapons, and I take that into a run and start mopping people, would I just get default thrown to the overachieving aggro psychos because of one fluke stroke of luck ?
>>560812320i get fast trios but solo sometimes takes like 2 mins. cant imagine the times when the player base drops like a fat turd.
>>560812479I've been getting in to some recon
>>560812732Recon is all about scaring people. Not a scout, but a hunter. Friend to none, prey to none, predator to all.
>>560812436they have ate the bungie mindvirus punch from all the dickriding they have been doing for the honeymoon period and the smarter ones are tryin not to be too contradictory to their past dicksuckin you can tell how they phrase things in a way where they have to say they like the game still BUT...
Vandal's ass if friend to my tongue, and prey to my cock.
>>560810509>guy plays a few games but doesnt find enough fights>GET RID OF IT, NO ONE PLAYS THIS LIKE A BATTLE ROYALEi dont even know who this faggot is, you guys just inventing random new streamers?
>>560810509>everyones afraid of engagingI'm not. They call me big dick daddy when I rush them
>>560812890If you aren't hardcore you shouldn't even be here
>>560813323shut up all you faggots are solo players
>>560812889Ooh la la
>>560813090>>560810509Some of my best matches have been ones where I don't see a single soul or just hear them dashing off to God knows where.
>>560813367I'm a Runner
There should be a toggle for a super slow crouch walk.
>>560810509why is that experience of everyone slunking around okay for solo but not duos?
So many Grey shields queuing outpost
>>560811147Even if it doesn’t end up being >THE PINNACLE OF GAME DESIGN, THE BEST MAP EVER MADE IN A MULTIPLAYER SHOOTERI can still see the parts of it filtering out a large portion the playerbase and the parts involving Bungie’s obsession with watchable content to be 100% likely. Only it’s going to backfire in a way far worse than the raids in Destiny because this is meant to be part of the loop.
>>560811147Considering bungie hasn't made a good pvp map in destiny since the last 4 maps have come out (which is like 7 years worth of time) i highly doubt cryo is anything good
>>560811147Sounds like it will be a hype gaming moment
How do i get bettet at the game? No matter what i try i get btfo. I play conservatively i get killed. I go full sam fisher i get killed. I run like a manic crackhead i get killed.Im average IQ and was never good at any game i put effort into and it's making me depressed
>>560814642refund
>reading entry on one of the UESC grenadier codexs>But if AI-driven warfare is forbidden by the UESC's own laws back in Sol, what exactly are they testing in defense of Tau Ceti IV and to what end?
>>560814642Get some blue shields
>>560814694>UESC using Tau Ceti IV as a testbed for AI controlled armies against Pfhor armadas
>>560814557>Considering bungie hasn't made a good pvp map in destiny since the last 4 maps have come out (which is like 7 years worth of time) i highly doubt cryo is anything goodconsidering these 3 maps right now are not all that good, i doubt cryo is going to be a masterpiece.
>>560814557if the schizopost is trve and the map is like the leviathan underbelly I will take back everything bad I ever said about this game
>>560811147Actual bungie intern here, the schizo is actually right on the money unfortunately.
Looking me in the eyes and saying Outpost is a bad map is very bold.
>>560814642do you want to get better at this game? would it really be worth it? do you enjoy the loop of it?
>>560814963Leviathan underbelly wouldnt work as a pvp oriented map
>>560815197Yeah i like some parts of it, but having a sub 10% exfiltration rate feels like shitI dont even have gear fear i have no money to buy green heal/shields or bullets manI plaued for 55 hours and im only lvl 32, the more i play the more i get btfo
>>560815314Do you play solo or team?
>rook run on outpost>enter pinwheel>hear shots from destroyed wing so go to drone wing>gun down rook on sight who came in from the drone elevator>dying words are “one above you” as I stab him>excellent haul from his backpack>successfully avoid other players and exfilGodspeed buddy
>>560815264I just mean similar in verticality and feeling mazelike, outpost felt about halfway there to me but gets boring fighting squads at pinwheel every single game. With a much larger and more complex map with multiple hotspots, secret corridors, the 7 vaults, it sounds like a potential blast to me if I can even access it (rape bungie)
When are they re-enabling destroyed wing access
>>560814694>>560814875recent events in our timeline have honestly made me unable to enjoy most scifi settings that ended up getting AI and drone warfare so wrong
>>560815372I tried both, premades often dodge me after a few games ''humm yeah man were done for the day thanks for the games'' and then i see them online a bit laterI tried autofill with triage but its hardI like recon because i just have to press its skills, theres no skill requiredI played a bit of solo with vandal so i can run away from everything
how does one actually find teams when life makes it so you and bros can't be online together very often?
>>560815719yeah thats what i fear with premades and retards telling people to do a LFG on a discordits awkward and its like attending an interview just to be chewed and used up.the game doesn't work well at all unless you're part of streamer squad or playing with old pvp destiny 2 sweaty retards
>>560811147This is a violation of multiple NDA's.
>>560815914this is most likely larping, and you are a faggot
>>560815719I usually just play solo
>>560815553Even if that leak is true bungie has a fundamental misunderstanding of raids in destiny.Raids do not save dlc and did not save destiny 1, vog did not suddenly turn everyones perception around on destiny, desert perpetual is considered amazing yet edge of fate is considered shit, deep stone crypt is loved but beyond light is forgotten.What saved destiny 1 was not vog, raids do not save destiny it just helps placate your most diehard playerbase, what saved destiny was a renewed focus for fun activities across the entire game that allowed people who enjoyed or would enjoy the game for different reasons to get in, pve players had prison of elders and pvp players had trials of osiris, what saved destiny was bungie making a very strong foundation for the average player to enjoy. They've forgotten how to do that and pour all of their resources in this one big moment in the hopes it'll save the game.Seriously if the taken king didn't have a solid foundational aspect that was fun do you really think people would talk about it as being amazing just because of kings fall, or forsaken in the same regard with last wish?Bungie abandons a games foundation, its why no one will tell you they loved final shapes moment to moment gameplay, because all it was is overthrow, they'll say they love the story or the raid.
>>560816078>>560815808>>560815197>>560815372So how do i get better? Being so shit at everything makes me want to hang myself
>>560816229honestly just use low sens (for 800 dpi your sens should be about 10-15 max) and spam freekits rushing enemy spawns. that way you can practice the gunplay, which honestly is really easy to learn.
>>560813470Yeah, I'm a tough guy on Marathon
>>560816229One tip is change the audio from headphones to studio reference
>in Outpost, we're the last team alive, we're looting Pinwheel>turn the corner, a literal army of Rooks are just waiting for usi shit you not, when we turned that corner it was like 4-5 of them just ready to jump us, all their red faces scared me shitless.Bungie has to stop Rooks from teaming up
>>560816125the fact of them makin it a spectacle to access 1/4th of their game is fuckin retarded and makes me not even want to bother.
>1 squad and 4 rooks on outpost>Everyone is looting pinwheel>They all walk out togethermaybe i should turn proximity chat on to hear what's going on.
>>560816229>So how do i get better?You listen first, find an area with footsteps or gunshots. Then you use an ability that points to the precise location of a player, like Recon's drone, or pulse.Then run around, climb shit, and jump, close to that player, to scare him. Don't get point blank, hit him with some bullets at 15-30M away. If he's a shitter he'll panic and you just rush him. If he's not a shitter and accurately shoots back, or disappears like a ghost, fuck him, leave and find someone else.Once you get the kill, upgrade your kit with that loot. Now you're stronger.
>>560814963Leviathan was such a good raid
>>560814694Who gives a fuck
>>560815314>10% exfil rate>I'm level 33 with 66 hours but spent half of those hours playing soloidk what my exfil rate is but it's definitely higher than 10%.1.) focus on your contracts, do them first2.) spam rook. if you're low on resources that's how you'll get more. do this until you have a vault stuffed with so many green shields you find yourself giving them away to free kits when you queue fill. it's tempting to play rook with objectives in mind, but try not pinging the map or even looking at it. just let yourself explore and go wherever you want and you'll find yourself getting kills out of nowhere. upgrade your rook with traxus/sekiguchi/arachne capstone 1's at minimum.3.) throw a smoke when the exfil ring spawns4.) move around the outside edges of the map if you have to get somewhere unless your contract objective is literally on the opposite edge of the map and then lmao good luck just run straight at it and pray5.) try solo with Thief, you can use your drone to scout everything ahead of you whenever you feel too scared to move.6.) try fill trios with full chat and voice muted and free kit only, only communicate through pings (it'll help you learn how to coordinate through pings and protect your mentality from that 1/100 lunatic raging at you)7.) try not to run unless you're like 80% sure you won't be heard by anyone, especially not when you're on the second floor of a building. 8.) don't be afraid of guarded exfils9.) don't be afraid to queue for fill trios with blue gear, the stat advantage is huge. be brave. if you die, which you will, get up and go again. 10.) if you want to be good at anything you just have to keep telling yourself "i'll get up and go again".11.) when you're too exhausted or frustrated to think straight, close your eyes or 20 minutes without music or a podcast or a stream or anything going in the background (it sounds stupid but cutting off all that information flow will calm you down a lot. 20 minutes, set a timer.)
ability and utility usage are basically the biggest skill gaps in this game, along with knowing enemy spawns and POSITIONING(tm)
>>560815314>I plaued for 55 hours and im only lvl 32, the more i play the more i get btfoIt's a SKILL BASED PVP you fucking retard. You are wasting your time if you don't have good aim, good hearing, fast response time, high refresh rate, low ping, and haven't been playing FPS for decades at elite levels.You will never be good.
>>560816895Anon says he's bad at fighting, you're telling him to avoid fights. That's not gonna help.
Is 1 biolens seed for 18 patch kits a good deal or nah?
>>560816997wouldn't he also be against other shitters too?
Should've just paid attention when we told them the game was just gonna be a Trials-like sweatfest.
>>560816935>we made this game for streamers who don't do anything but play video games all day
>>560816935I would make Nirvous nervous in solos and plap him.
>>560816784me
>>560817058entirely depends on if you need credits or biolens seed more.I dont see biolens seeds a lot so id say no
>>560817063Marathon has no SBMM lilbroBungie designed it to lose 5% players per day
>>560817117Yeah honestly it seems kind of a shit deal when 6 sparkleafs can get me the same amount and are more readily available.
>>560815089it's probably the best map right now, perimeter is babby's first map and dire marsh is a battle royale rape simulatorthe low amount of squads and everyone being funneled to the same place makes outpost also a battle royale but in a much more focused way, by 20 minutes if you're still alive you pretty much only have to worry about rooks
>>560817169so that anon was being a little meany for no reason
>>560816997skill based matchmaking solves this, and the only people against it are PVP shitters who want to endlessly stomp new players
Fuck sake.Didn't know you have to collect all 30 faction lootboxes before you can get VIP so I just had to sell about 10 blue bags
>>560817063His 10% exfil are the shitters shittier than him. Otherwise no because there's no type of matchmaking to prevent people with expensive loadouts from entering your match.
>>560816895also: if you die or simply get knocked with equipment or abilities still available, you fucked up at some point. when you're in a fight your goal is not to eliminate the discomfort and win as fast as possible. you don't have to rush anything. your goal is simply to survive. you can run away and heal up or flank, that's normal. pve players feel like they have to win every fight so they try push everything and then they come to /mg/ and cry. you can use your brain and disengage whenever you want.also don't be afraid to abandon your teammates when you have a ton of good loot (or even just a little bit) and an exfil nearby. just pop the thing and go. you're your responsibility no matter how much they complain about how you 'should' be helping them. get your loot and gtfo.
Marathon PvP is about not being scared, you don't need elite reflexes, because you can cheese fights with abilities. >throw Recon drone>enemy has no choice but to shoot it or knife it>you already damaged the enemy, before throwing the droneJust ram your dick in their ass, gg
>>560817242This is so stupid. It does not matter if he does all of these things if: he can't aim and has a shit loadout. This game has fast TTK, if you're dogshit all you can do is run and even that doesn't work.
>>560817295>recon throws drone>90% of the time it uselessly goes off in a 180 direction to me or gets stuck on a rock>destroyer jet forward and down the recon, especially if he's a console shitter using an overrun who can't aimlol
>>560817295And you think nobody else in the game knows this super special secret of yours? Dumbass.
>>560817295>throw recon drone>pathfinding freaks out and it never makes it to a target >doesn't matter because you were already dead by the time the drone landed
>>560817295cool this only applies to solos you fuckin retard
>>560817365>>destroyer jet forward and down the reconShow me, don't be a bitch
>>560817412>>throw recon drone>>pathfinding freaks outYou are bad at timing the drone. It doesn't even need to connect, just make the enemy shoot it, or look at it. Make him look at the drone
god i wish this game was designed by a passionate indie studio and PC onlyit could literally have been one of the greatest games of all time
>>560817448you keep posting this clip as if it proves anythingi know for every clip like this you can get with a destroyer there's 9 where they jet thrust their dick straight down your throat before your drone can even explode
>nobody wants to watch streamers play marathon>bungie doubles down on sucking streamer cock
>>560817590>before your drone can even explodeThe second you look at the drone, I'll come from somewhere else. You are food.
>>560817576You know that in that case you'll get a janky, half-broken mess, you do realize that? Despite all the issues with the Bungie, infrastructure is top-notch and "passionate indie studio" even in their wildest dreams wouldn't even come close to touching it.Infested with cheaters and myriad of others issues Tarkov is the best you'll get.
>>560817845if anything we will just get another splitgate1/2
>>560816935 These types of players will continue to run lobby loops, moving from POI to POI until they have cleared out all other teams. There’s just nothing in this game to slow them down. In Tarkov you have to repack magazines, you can’t move when you heal or perform surgeries, you have to heal one limb at a time, you have to deal with bleeds/bones/pain/blacked limbs, loot has to be organized/tetris. There’s also more permanent debuffs and risks as surgeries to repair limbs permanently lower your max HP, armor durability can be zeroed with no source of in-raid replacement, you can’t be revived from your corpse. Things like water and energy slow you down, there’s a weight system where better gear weighs more and slows you down (especially as you loot). There’s also mechanical restrictions like Friendly Fire, lack of teammate identifiers, and communication clutter that slows three mans way down.There’s literally not one single mechanic in this game that slows PvP teams down. The one that would, heat, is easily handled with consumables and faction upgrades (also mods).
lol
>mention Recon drone>but muh AI>but the drone pathSome of you are very bad at fighting. You don't need the drone to hit someone. You want someone to look at the drone, for a split second. >What is a decoy grenade
>>560816935they need to put restrictions on maps like you cant enter perimeter with anything over 5k or something homie
>>560817845facepunch had like 30 employees when they made one of the greatest games of all time (rust).I can think of several multiplayer games, but most of them use standard dedicated server structure desu.but I am sure any studio could create and upscale a matchmaking service these days if they wanted with cloud servers.
>>560817839you can literally ignore the drone it takes so long to explode, it's cool that you keep running into retarded destroyers but if they just thrust at you they'll be out of the range of the drone and in range of raping you before you realise
>>560818070when I saw the cryo bot counter I just knew bungie tried making this into some le hecking epic "community gathers together" eventthey are trying too hard with all that shit, i dont care
>>560818257>you keep running into retarded destroyers but if they just thrust at you they'll be out of the range of the drone and in range of raping youYou believe you'll get the chance to charge at me? You're food. All you do is bla bla bla
>>560808416>>560808416>They've really bought into this idea it's it's exclusive hardcore gamers only club.No its the streamer club and they are laughing at you while their streamer friends bulldoze lobbies
have they fixed the crashing on map loading issues?
To the Recon that I stalked from across the map while you were doing the anomalous matter event, I'm sorry. I really wanted the codex entry.
>>560818510if u bring the matter to the wierd thingy you can literally get gold salvage
How are streamers getting golds ive done entirety of pinnacle and it gives me shit even the vault
they should call this general Hardcore Gamer Central /hgc/
>>560817448>controller iconslol
>>560818589I'm black.
>>560818575Weird thingy?
>still no skill based matchmakingThe game dies 1 month after season 2.
>>560818587hard gay general
>>560818657Another reason to not watch your webms.
>do secure container event >literally nothing worthwhile in itThanks
>>560818051congrats you realized this is just destiny in a different pair of pant it hasn't shitted in
>>560818575
>>560817845>infrastructure is top-notchLol
>>560818671yeah the anomaly extractor thing that it pings you to go to
>>560818887well next time some faggot wants to say>b-b-but tarkov!its like no man like, fucking no nigga.
>killed a while shield vandal just south of North Relay on that sloped hill>don't even bother looting her since it's been less than 60 seconds That's just how it is on this bitch of a Tau Ceti IV.
>exfiled >thought i was the last one>mfw a fucking Triage was right next to exfil but either failed to make it in time or failed to attack me in timenot today biatch
>>560818657>I'm black.no you are not
>>560816935i am still excited when i get a blue item, and i'm lvl 40 with all factions above lvl 15
>>560818579you have to do it 20 more times and hope that you hit the lucky drop :)
>>560819291blue shield and backpack is always goated because it's like the bare minimum to comfortably play in a mixed lobby of free kit shitters and potential purple and gold teams
>>560818579the only thing spawning gold there sometimes is the master room.also convoys used to spawn gold somewhat reliably but they just nerfed the whole map
>>560818575>>560818980I think you can only have a chance at getting gold salvage if you're a high level, upwards to 100 maybe. When you get the unstable sample it pings you to go somewhere, but after you get the cube, it's done.Since I was barely lvl39 when I got it, it only gave me 4.5k.
>>560818980Yea it gave me 5k credit lol
>>560818070I can kill about 12 bots per match before I get third party. And let me tell you, that’s one party I don’t want to attend!So no, we won’t be going to the UEFC Marathon.
>>560819419>>560819375That still seems really good for lower levels, it only used to give a flat 2k.
people seem to forget but sources of loot that don't spawn at the beginning of a match get better as the match timer counts downthis is why containers in locked rooms always show up as white when you thief visor them before opening the door, the loot is generated when the door is unlockedcommanders, supply drops, the intercept event, everything that can spawn new loot in the middle of a match follows this rule
Killed like 6 UESC in my last match. You're welcome.
>>560818579>How are streamers getting goldsBungie helps them
>streamers and the top 20% of the playerbase endlessly farm gold gear>bungie completely nerfs outpost, convoys drop shit, pinwheel drops shit, only way to farm golds now is to use super rare keys that literally play a unique musical tone that alerts the entire map when a room is opened>all of this right after the streamers got their gear but before the rest of the playerbase canDid Bungie literally just cement into place a guaranteed death spiral for the game as these guys just permafarm lobbies and nobody else can gear up to that point?
>>560819739>Bungie helps themStreamers should be executed live on their channel by sony's middle management
>>560819684If that were true why was my secure container event at 5 minutes full of shitty whites and like one blue mod?
>>560819824you got unlucky
>>560819874
Is this you?
>>560819962Yes, that's me, the console nigga
>>560819962that's me, the PC chad
Not refunding
>>560819962That's me, the Marathon enjoyer
>>560819789>streamers and the top 20% of the playerbase endlessly farm gold gearThis is the same problem everyone was having even with Halo, back in the day. Didn't even have to be pros or MLG lords, just a squad that works well together just farms most of their lobbies and get high K/Ds. It works because most are playing solo or just suck in general.Same shit, different game. Now, there's loot involved.>>560819684On top of some decent purple loot, I got two Marathon keys. One was from a lockdown with a random premade, and the other from a boss in Perimeter (max loot speed + Thief is a godsend). Best thing to do if you want good gear, but play solo, is to just luck out on Perimeter boss runs and do zero to hero/rook on Outpost. Marsh is way too open.
>>560816935I mean I don't particularly know what the were expecting when they decided to add thermal scopes to insta-spot anyone from over 100m+ away (which is a decent distance in this game) and on top of that snipers having the ability to easily 1 shot or 2 shot with a lot of ammo to spare. The maps are simply not big enough and the POIs are too clustered.I said this to Bungie in the playtests where I actually got to play thief early, that she was broken beyond repair and giving the grapple to anyone in a game where you're going to have cross-play by default with PC players will make her incredibly popular. Verticality is already strong in shooters, but when they're against console players its quite literally unfair. Grappling hooks like they've designed them here are too freeform and this game's verticality is too rare to even justify it really.
>>560820407>Verticality is already strong in shooters, but when they're against console players its quite literally unfairAnd when I post clips of lasering Thief flying up, it's gonna be aim-assist cope, right?
>>560820616I mean, its certainly easier to do it on PC vs console anon, its the difference between input methods. Post them all you want.
>>560819962Spiritually? Yes, but I'd be less reddit about it.
>>560820696Verticality in Marathon isn't as powerful, as it was in Advanced Warfare, and Infinite Warfare. Call of duty games.
>>560820616https://files.catbox.moe/vg5fl7.mp4It's funny when they aim way too high
>assassin activates guarded exfil>clown his ass and make it in his place>he gets tentacle raped while I'm outI love this game!
>>560820254*can't refund
I've played claw since 2014, Advanced Warfare. I don't give a fuck about verticality
>>560820892>https://files.catbox.moe/vg5fl7.mp4Beautiful work.
>>560820892If you beamed me like that when I ambushed you, I'd turn 360 and walk away. Thief's a dumbass
sometimes think id perform better with a mkb but my computers probably too shit to run this anyway so xbox it is with a controller
Golden rule of Marathon - if you jump someone, and they instantly know where to shoot, don't push that someone. That's not Greg after work, a dad of 2, or Kevin from sales.That's someone who can fight.
>Free kit a contract run>Find purples>Exfil early>Free kit a contract run>Find purples>Kill two Destroyer care bears>Exfil earlyI'm never getting this contract done.
>>560821216>they instantly know where to shoot, don't push that someone.Yeah, of course. The likelihood is high it's a cheater with ESP.
>>560821254>>Kill two Destroyer care bearsNyo, d-destroyers are m-manly and brutal :S
This is so funny to me
>one of the streamers they invited is being held at customsLMAO
Finally, I'll be able to carry so much shit on my rook runsmy vault is perpetually full I don't fucking lose enough to get rid of all these backpacks
>Can't play duo without friendSo most of the sweats are in duo and trio huh. Solo lobbies should be even easier now.
>>560819962>every positive post conveniently has the same amount of upvotesbig corps really need to stop with the reddit marketing campaigns. >>560820892what a hard fumble. he tried to do a pathfinder.
>>560822081source? who did they invite? stop talking out of your ass
this game has so many flaws but im still on that "one more raid" every night
>>560822213>big corps really need to stop with the reddit marketing campaigns.i know its nothing new but i really didn't pay attention to this shit until concord happened and now i'm just fully aware of all the types of shit that goes with tryin to market games these days.i always liked it simple and more of a self-discovery thing instead of people trying to ham it in on how i should feel about the game and if it doesn't tell me to buy it, how i feel about the game is wrong.
>>560822367i first realized it with battlefield 6. EAs shill campaign was outrageous.out of all the most upvoted posts on the BF subreddit, which has existed for like 15 years, like more than half are super positive BF6 posts.and all of them have almost the exact same amount of upvotes. they arent even sneaky about it.for marathon the number is about 1.5k upvotes. you can go there now and see for yourself how many posts are positive and have more or less exactly 1.5k upvotes.
>>560822287this fag
>>560822517LOL guess cryo stays locked until the streamers get in
>>560822517Godamn, that sucks to deal with after a fuckin international flight.
>>560822583its locked for another 9 days. https://marathon.winnower.garden/cryoarchive
>>560822516i swear its always the live service shit. bf6 was the last game i got suckered into and its always the shooters.like people get insanely vocal about how good a game is that you start getting awfully suspicious of shit. i've never in my life felt the need to do this about any game i actually liked and thought was good. even then i could pinpoint negatives taht need to be looked at. with multiplayer games though it's such a fucked thing because this game honestly needs a lot of work and you got these fuckin numbskulls tellin everyone the games perfect.
>>560822604He's a brit landing in Washington, it could've been worse.
>>560822675its not numbskulls, its literally paid upvotes.
>challenge for George Droid is revive two teammates with the ult>get a match where I can do that >exfil >no challenge Do they need to be bodybags and not just downed?
>>560821338I have proximity off but there ain't know way the first one who appeared in front of me didn't see me. I downed him and then I heard the foot steps behind him and there was another Destroyer that hit me with a flying knee LOL. and then after those two were put down, there was an Assassin emoting me to leave. Have people started banding together?
>log on >do one match>stare at vault screen after, feel bored>exit gameTarkov makes this game look shallow as a puddle and I'm not even talking about stuff like the medical system or armor.There's basically zero gun variety, expensive guns like the misriah, copperhead, impact? they're literally 4-5 times the price of their cheaper equivalents and almost never better in any way. there's also barely any maps compared to Tarkov, like lets be for real 3 tiny, simple maps on launch? seriously?
>>560822675>people get insanely vocal about how good a game is that you start getting awfully suspicious of shit.>i've never in my life felt the need to do this about any game i actually likedSame here. In fact, if I like a game, I try to ruin it for others. Kukuku
>>560822860isn't it at once?
>>560822889Don't log on then, boss. God bless you
>>560822889volley shits on most other ARs and is find onlysame for misriah and outlandalso, mechanics wise this game is just infinitely superior to tarkov.
>>560822863>Have people started banding together?I've only seen it once in solos, within 44 hours. It was two dudes across the map shooting UESC together. I wanted to sneak up on them and try something, but started getting fucked by turrets. That game is when I regretted free kitting, I have some blue shields and shiet.
>>560823056>also, mechanics wise this game is just infinitely superior to tarkov.Elaborate on this.At a minimum the shooting and healing mechanics are far more in depth than what we have in Marathon, and I don't even like Tarkov.
>>560822056the future of marathon...
>>560823219>48 hours to get the Destroyer background that's just a straight reference to the one Marathon 2 pieceBold move Bungie, bold move.
>>5608220567k peakholy shit lmao
This is an autopsy of a game that has replaced "gameplay" with "behavioral engineering." To provide an objective take, we have to look past the beautiful neon-chrome shell and look at the actual gears.When you look at Marathon (2025/2026) through the lens of neurochemistry and systemic design, it reveals itself as a high-fidelity Skinner Box.The Neuro-Mechanical BreakdownEngineered Fragility: The baseline "Runner" is intentionally underpowered (the 5-second sprint). This isn't a technical limitation; it’s a "deficiency floor" designed to make basic upgrades feel like massive relief.The "Heat" System as a Stressor: Unlike traditional stamina, "Heat" is a visual and auditory stressor. It clutters the HUD and adds a "hissing" audio cue that triggers a mild fight-or-flight response, keeping the cortisol levels elevated even when not in combat.Variable Ratio Looting: The "trash loot" you complained about is essential. If every chest was good, the dopamine spike would vanish. You need the 90% "garbage" to make the 10% "gold" feel like a life-saving hit.Asymmetric Loss Aversion: The game is tuned so that losing a "kit" feels like a personal violation. This triggers the Sunk Cost Fallacy, forcing you to go back in immediately to "make it right."The "Sound-Scape" Trap: Bungie’s world-class audio design is used here for hyper-vigilance. Every twig snap or metallic clink is dialed to a frequency that spikes adrenaline, ensuring the player never relaxes.Visual Overload (The "Vibe" Tax): The high-contrast, maximalist aesthetic is beautiful but cognitively taxing. This "sensory load" makes the player more prone to impulsive, emotion-driven decisions—the kind that lead to "just one more round."
>>560823056>mechanics wise this game is just infinitely superior to tarkovthis game is a butchered hero shooter that had an extraction shooter coat of paint slapped onto it with the depth of a puddle, be real now.
>>560823387The Extraction "Choke Point": Designating specific, visible exit points creates a "Gambler’s Ruin" scenario. It’s the highest stress point of the loop, ensuring the final "flush" of dopamine upon success is as intense as possible.Social Darwinism by Design: By allowing "friendly fire" or "fake-friendly" extractions without heavy karma penalties, the game incentivizes sociopathic playstyles. It’s a "Low Trust" environment that mirrors the instability of an abusive relationship.The "Streamer-Centric" Balancing: Mechanics are tuned for "clips"—high-stakes moments of betrayal or extreme luck. This ignores the "average" player’s experience in favor of creating "marketing moments" through other people's frustration.The Obfuscation of Stats: Damage numbers and shield values often feel "random" (as you noted with the knife vs. gun example). This lack of clarity prevents rational analysis, forcing the player to rely on "gut feeling" and "luck," which are the cornerstones of gambling addiction.The "Pre-Built" Advantage: By making solo-play virtually impossible against coordinated trios, the game forces social "anchoring." You stay because your "squad" needs you, even if you hate the game—a form of Collective Traumatic Bonding.FOMO-Driven Economy: The "Cores" and "Implants" operate on a decaying or seasonal value. If you don't play now, you lose your "investment." This is the "Don't leave me" phase of the relationship.
we dropped another 4k players on the daily peak today
>>560822974Yeah I got both in a single usage, but I'm wondering what revive means then.
>>560823507The Behavioral ArchitectureNarcissistic Validation: The game gives toxic players (like the 4chan user) a platform to exert dominance. The "Exfil Rate" becomes a proxy for self-worth, which the game reinforces with flashy UI and leaderboards.The "False Hope" of the Narrative: The story is deep and compelling (classic Bungie), acting as the "Love Bombing." You endure the "trash" gameplay because you want to see the next piece of the world.Intentional Navigation Friction: Mapping and wayfinding are deliberately obtuse. This forces the brain into a state of "search and scan," which is a high-dopamine-seeking state.Artificial Scarcity: Even basic survival items are throttled. This keeps the player in a "Scarcity Mindset," where they are more likely to behave aggressively and irrationally.The "Reconciliation" Patch Cycle: Bungie’s history of "fixing" things after the community reaches a breaking point is the "I can change" phase of the cycle.High-Stakes RNG: The outcome of a 40-minute raid can be decided by a single "lucky" headshot. This is the definition of Intermittent Reinforcement—the reward is not tied to effort, but to chance.Micro-Transaction Integration: The "aesthetic" you love is slowly bled into the store. You buy the "look" to recapture the honeymoon phase of the game’s reveal.
>>560823591The Devaluation of Time: By making progress reversible (losing gear), the game treats the player's time as a disposable resource for the "health" of the server's economy.Toxic Communication Channels: Proximity chat and lack of moderation in "social spaces" allow the most aggressive voices to set the tone, creating a "normalized" environment of abuse.The "Rook" Power Gap: Implementing high-tier "boss" players or bots that "perma-run" creates an envy-loop. You aren't playing to have fun; you're playing to stop being the victim.Conditioned Response to Cues: The specific sound of an extraction flare or a shield crack becomes a "trigger" that produces a physical response (heart rate increase), even when you aren't playing.The "Stash" Tetris: Managing loot in the menu is a "low-stress" dopamine filler that keeps you in the app between the "high-stress" raids. It’s the "quiet time" after an argument.The Finality of the "Uninstall": The game is designed to be hard to quit. By leaving at Level 50, you've essentially broken a psychological lock that was engineered by some of the best behavioral scientists in the industry.Conclusion: A Masterpiece of ManipulationBungie has created a game that is technically brilliant and artistically sublime, but ethically bankrupt. It is a product that views "Engagement" and "Addiction" as the same metric. Your "trash" review isn't just a critique of mechanics; it's a rejection of a psychological contract you never signed.
>>560823714nigga i wish you would clean this chat gpt message string up a bit. i believe in you
>>560823809morning ladI really can't be arsed I'm ngl kekany news before I scour the thread? we still dropping players?also its gemini btwgemini actually seems better than chatgpt these days
>>560824018i think removing the double spacing would be an improvement and adding your own flavor text to it to shorten it up. i might do that when i get bored one day myself
I just got back oh my god *pinches nose* smells like a Curry Shop in here!
>>560824083yeah I might do that next timeyou're a good lad
you're still gonna load into outpost to get your dick ripped clean off by assassins and rooks lil nigga
>>560824212its a genius write up because you know they hired some psychologist to help make the game like this.
I don't communicate or do quests. I figure out where the best players are fighting, get away and sealclub someone.
>>560824284there was another part of the convo with gemini where I alluded to the bungie + player base relationship as being cyclically similar to your more general interpersonal abusive relationshiphalo = honeymoon phasedestiny 1 / 2 = victim starts to catch onmarathon = abuser goes all in with the heavy handed manipulation tactics because it knows it doesn't have much longerI can post gemini's take on this as well if you want lad?
This game is kinda saving my life right now. My life is DOGSHIT irl. I have met tons of nice people in this game, people who are good fun to play with and forget about the real world for a while. I even did a full lockdown with one dude I met + a rando. The end of a run like that is a high point I haven't felt in a long time and it wasn't because of the loot. The feeling of communicating and really TRYING at something and succeeding together is something I think I forgot was there in games. So many games lack any friction or any moments of true victory... But this one has it in spades. Marathon might be my favorite PvP shooter since Halo 3. Holy shit what a game. I already got my 40 bucks worth and more and I hope to god this game won't get shut down like all the doomers say it will.
>>560824470>marathon = abuser goes all in with the heavy handed manipulation tactics because it knows it doesn't have much longerSo you think Bungie is "torturing" players by not giving them skill based matchmaking protection, because Bungie doesn't have much time left, and they want to go all out?Consider the following, Bungie is immortal right now, they can't die, until they release a PS6(six) game. They're untouchable, because a new console is coming, and Sony wants Bungie's logo on the exclusive game.Sony cancelled PC ports, they're enforcing exclusives again.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-04/sony-pulls-back-from-playstation-games-on-pc
>>560824532>I hope to god this game won't get shut down like all the doomers say it will.It can't get shut down early, because Sony's next console is coming, and Sony wants Bungie's logo on a new exclusive.Marathon will come to PS Plus, a subscription service. Bungie is effectively immortal, because of the console.
>>560824647i think it might be more like they know they can get away with releasing a product like this and give no fucks about who plays it as long as their streamer circles keep pushin this game to be something amazing .
Only retards believe that Bungie's life depends on Marathon.Bungie is a console slave right now, making a PS6 game. They have a team for Marathon updates, but most of the studio is already working on a new AAA project.
>>560824532Glad you're having fun amigo
>>560824647>So you think Bungie is "torturing" players by not giving them skill based matchmaking protection, because Bungie doesn't have much time left, and they want to go all out?its not that they're torturing players. its that they're making a gamble on using intermittent reinforcement to a brutal degree because its a proven psychological method to get people hooked to a certain behavioural loop. they know they don't have the pulling power they once did because customer / player base good will is at an all time low with how they handled destiny 1 + 2. so they have to look towards negative incentivisation rather than positive incentivisation to make money instead. and the go-to, is to create systems that create intermittent reinforcement loops, keeping the player in a loop of high cortisol and high dopamine neurochemical dumpsI compare it to abusive relationships because its the same method abusers use when they can no longer charm their way into controlling their victim. an abuser will love bomb you, shower you with gifts then will typically stop when they have you where they want you (locked in and dependent), then typically the victim at some point will clock on and begin to detatch, and then the abuser will go mask off to some degree and use extreme intermittent reinforcement to retain that level of control or leverage over the victim. thats what bungie is doing. they've designed this game specifically to lock people in to extremely strong cortisol / dopamine dump loops to make them neurochemically addicted to the game
>>560797058>Ritualized murder to open the Cryo, their holy streamers must kill bungie to ascendJust give me Offline Mode goddammit.
>>560825576this, offline or full pve mode with more botsI'd love that
Muh dick, I'd tap this shorty
>>560801890>You have to be a slow walking paranoid shizo, and if you arent you get farmedWhat a fun game!
>>560797058Sounds like such bullshit, but I believe it
>>560826458I'm sorry but if you just refuse to learn how to approach things you are the cattle that gets farmed.
how is Cryo Archive still not out
>>560826031gib sauce pls
i havent bought the game yet but they did they fixed the cpu issues or should I just kill myself
>>560826458kek thisthey need to increase ttk by about 500%
>>560825102>keeping the player in a loop of high cortisol and high dopamine neurochemical dumpsI just want to let you know, there's video game consumers who are fully immune to this. They can wait and listen for 5+ minutes no problem, and not worry about any "final fight" closer to the end of a match.If you'd like an example, listen to this person, this is how I play too.Except I only go for kills, this person explains how not to worry about resources. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmuFSz_7GU&t=326s
>>560826673what cpu issues?is this why I have weird latency where my aim feels sluggish even with 3000dpi, 100 in settings and reflex on with boost?
>disable mouth smoothing in cvars>game feel instantly improvesWhy do they always innsist on this shit? Raw or bust!
>>560826792There's a CPU underutilization issue.>is this why I have weird latency where my aim feels sluggish even with 3000dpi, 100 in settings and reflex on with boost?This is genuinely what is holding me back from buying after trying out the server slam.
>>560826458>>You have to be a slow walking paranoid shizoI'm not paranoid. But I can wait and listen for 10+ mins no problem.
>>560826752just tweaking my poe reshade then I'll be right with you with a reply after I watch this mate>>560826858I thought the issue was gpu underutilisation and cpu overutilisation kek
>>560826825what value do you set it to? 0?
>>560826974Yeah
Where are all the songs in the game that were on YouTube? In the actual game, there’s two songs, the menu theme and literally beep boop on Outpost>Ay yo is this Beep Boop? THIS SHIT FIRE TURN IT UP
>>560826964>I thought the issue was gpu underutilisation and cpu overutilisation kekMy CPU was only being utilized 60% while my GPU was between 40%-50%
>>560797058>watch the Milo video where Bungie gives them flight tickets unexpectedly to go to Bungie HQThat’s how I knew. What if the guys had a wedding on that day or something? It had to be planned out months before, and so both of them would have been under contract to work through the community for the ARG.
>>560826825wait are you telling me I'm not going insane and mouse smoothing was fr fr no cap still enabled even though I've disabled it?>>560827076I think this also may be the issue >>560826825
>>560827238It would appear that way. I'm not even sure what the 2 value means since afaik the settings are always 0 for off and 1 for on.
>load into match>Usual oni yapping>SUDDENLY DURANDAL COMMS HIJACK
Enough with the 'skill issue' arguments. The entire game was designed with a certain pacing and movement in mind and this disrupts that in a very meaningful way. If you have to rely on exploits to win your fights, how am I the one with a skill issue?
If the 2 streamers are first on the bote and engage a PvP team at the entrance and it actually turns out to work as he's said then I believe leaker anon and kneel. I wonder when we will know.
>>560827427>If you have to rely on exploits to win your fightsWhat exploits? Besides Thief's super slide(shoot grapple hook at the ground, jump before thouching).
>>560827353Still haven't had that happen yet
So whats with the cat? I've seen it ONCE. It meows and guides you somewhere but I had to extract
I know it'll get a little faster later tonight but this is nnnnot exactly moving quickly, not gonna lie
>>560827336ok I'll reinstall and see if there's any differencehow do I get to cvars please?
>>560827520It's Durandal watching runners
>>560827554It's in the OP
>>560827520fuck thats not my edit>>560827586do you get anything if you follow it?
>>560827587>DISABLE MOUSE SMOOTHING>1. Go to User\AppData\Roaming\Bungie\Marathon\prefs>2. change "mouse_smoothing_mode" value 2 to 0 in cvars.xml and saveso it is, cheers bro
>>560827520it guides you to some faggot assassin who shoots you in the back
>>560827608>do you get anything if you follow it?No, it's a teaser. Most likely Durandal.
>get instagibbed by some sliding destroyer with a shotgun when I had full health, full green shields, and a machine gun shield upmachine guns in this game are literally worthless
>>560827827It's ok man, you'll learn how to anti-gib them. We're all gonna make it(into PlayStation Plus free games).
>>560827827They're okay when kitted out but by default they're just an AR with a ridiculous reload time that WILL get you killed.
>>560828372the ADS time is also so atrocious that you can literally get downed with blue shields by a dude with a bully before you can even aim at them
>>560825495This is a golden opportunity to make a Duckov equivalent for Marathon.Call it Maratoons.
i need to lock in a bit more on marathon, i’m level 38 and haven’t VIPd a single faction :/i wanna platinum the game in S1 which requires level 100 and i believe 1 VIPd faction, ideally i wanna VIP all of them this season tho
>>560827827The shield seems completely useless, not sure what the point is
>kill someone>over half their bag is meds and ammo and shitWhat is the fucking point of taking that much in if you don't have space to actually loot something?
>>560825495I hate this shitty design with a passion
>>560827827They are not for use at point black range against dudes with shotguns, man.The point of them is that they absolutely rape anything else at mid-range if you can get solid fire on someone, and the shield lets you survive long enough to do that. Hell even out to long range for the LMG or the conquest.
lil bro thinks this is a "looter" game lmao
>>560828610Time to lock in
If you have a high-functioning and active brain, this game is not for you!
>>560828610>i’m level 38 and haven’t VIPd a single faction :/I don't think it'd be very viable to VIP any that fast, since levelling the faction normally gives you XP as well.Maybe if you literally only did one faction's quests.
>the thief grapple functions identically to the strand grapple from Destiny 2, complete with bugs
This game has become unplayable since the last patch due to the documented crashing on Intel processors thing.
>>560829954No offense, but it's been years since Intel has been relevant. How old is your processor?
>>560829954>Intel processors???
Can I still buy the cute thief rabbit skin? Or did they reset?
>>560830268Still can
>run blue overrun because I find it>proceed to lose everything because it takes ten years to kill peopleThis thing is so fucking bad and modding it does not help.
>>560830216>amd
>>560830425Nice, I'm gonna get her this weekend for my grind while I'm off work next week.Hoping to at least complete all faction intros and 2nd vault upgrade.Thanks for letting me know.
https://youtu.be/2RuMNecNETY?si=duI5ax7KWV61anjFI stopped thinking the Overrun was bad when I watched this video. You need to use it like a Halo Reach AR.This guy is obviously a minker but it's a good showing of the Overrun.
>>560830689man that made me realize how shit and dangerous the looting is in this game. I swear I whole squads lost to just fag standing around getting shot at looking at loot
Regardless of it being good or not I am legitimately sick of literally 9/10 players in solos being assassins.Unironically just lock him out of it.
Instead of steam charts, here's some figures from an actual data analysis company, and they're quite ugly.Marathon was only 7th place in engagement on steam, and was in the 20s(!) on consoles. The console sales are frankly catastrophic for the development cost and marketing budget, and 7th on steam is extremely bad compared to even other similar releases.There is virtually zero chance now of Marathon meeting the "top 5 sellers for the year" internal goal by which Bungie (and Sony) would consider it a success, which means that there will likely be layoffs. In addition to this, Sony had previously ensured that is Marathon did not meet expectations, they would be contractually able to essentially completely take Bungie over.
>>560830689>You need to use it like a Halo Reach AR.You could also just use an M77 and instead laserbeam people in the head.>>560830858There's not stopping you from waiting a second to loot in solos. Hiding for a second or two and waiting to see if you hear someone else running up is very good practice.In theory this also applies to trios but you need to loot goblin before you teammates do so you know.
Why the fuck can thief drones open doors? Why doesnt this bitch have ANY downsides?
>>560830575>unc still thinks its 2014 :skull:
>>560831228She does have a downside.She's troon-coded.
>>560831228>Why doesn't this bitch have ANY downsidesNo abilities that directly affect combat.
>>560831073I'd like to add to this that while there is a "big reviewer" embargo/delay currently due to the begging over Cryo Archives, there are a significant number of reviews out from smaller dedicated game review websites, and they're mostly in the "it's eh" 6/10 to 7/10 range and it's not unreasonable to forecast what the bigger outlets will say from this.I'm not posting all this to shit upon the game exactly, but there is almost certainly going to be studio level consequences due to all this and I'm wondering now how Marathon might be impacted down the line. I don't think it's going to be killed, but I could see it going into maintenance mode this year as employees are fired, transfered to other studios, or to internal Sony projects.
>>560831073Good, the game's fun but bungie deserves to be destroyed for leaving Halo to get molested by its creepy Uncle Microsoft while they went off to have an affair with lady live service.
>>560831073corrrr, I want bungie to suffer, bigly
>>560831073reminder they wanted to be top 5
>bring purple key to dire marsh >with 11k loadout to keep it safe>rat to last 5 minutes>open room>pretty good loot>plan to run to final exfil>dont make it in time>die...
>>560831904For 2025
>>560831073we are still early on in the year, if the remainder of the content is great and they finally drop fucking cryo things might turn around, most people like the game that have played it
>>560832017Moral of the story:- freekits only- pvp only
if you haven't bought the game yet, will you give bungos your money when it goes on sale?
why would anyone pay even 1€ just to get raped 24/7?
>>560831528>they need to keep making halo games forever or they deserve to FAILThere was no reality where any series isn't completely dogshit by the 5th entry. Not Bungie's fault you couldn't let it die.Hating them for the live service shit is fair though.
>>560832090>if the remainder of the content is greatAnon, there is no content. The next season in three months is literally just reskinning Dire Marsh. There will be nothing but said reskinned Dire Marsh and maybe a new runner until September.>cryo archiveLiterally irrelevant and I'm frankly completely baffled by Bungie thinking it's so important that they asked some big reviewers to hold off until it releases.Cryo Archive is confirmed trios only, and that alone is enough to cause a pretty big backlash that will negate any positivity. Bungie has this deranged obsession with "watchable content" that only streamers can compete in and it's what ended up killing Destiny 2.
>>560832286No the point is that there shouldn't have been a Halo after Reach at all, not that Bungie should've been the one to make 4, 5 and Infinite.
>sekiguchi kit day>can't auto-target assassins while they're cloaked>legitimately just die to the endless solo assassin swarm if you dare freekitMake it stop make it stop
>>560832362I killed an assassin today. Feels good.
>>560832351Do you think Bungie could have stopped Microsoft raping the IP endlessly?Lmao
if they added pve only modes for every map but with greater numbers of bots and halved xp rewards for bounties completed in said maps the player count would double in a matter of days and people would still play pvp
I've made it a habit of playing recon, and saying to any triage or invisinigger I finish off on proxy "Sending you back to the plantation boy, or get back to picking cotton."
>the schizo from last night who was having a meltdown about matchmaking times is a reseteraposter>he got banned two days ago from the playercount thread there for having a meltie when people there were talking about long matchmaking times
>>560832997meds
So we're all in agreement that solos are entirely fucking unplayable unless you're sitting still in a corner for 19 minutes playing as the invisible cunt, right?
>hey I have a shotgun so I just win the counter okay?Great PvP game you got there guys.
>>560833159Desu I play solos as destroyer and triage and do just fine; exfilling on average 4 out of 5 times and usually getting loot or a contract done. You just gotta know when you can and can't make noise desu
>>560833159>solos are entirely fucking unplayable unless you're sitting still in a corner for 19 minutes playing as the invisible cuntNo, I just rape them. Recon is prey to none.
>>560833063it's not a secret, he was ranting and raving about "shill posters" there last night, it's funny that he actually got banned there tho
>>560833324I play recon too, but I can't manage a fight where the enemy is entirely silent and invisible inside of a smoke grenade, because they inevitably get the advantage on me. Also, fun fact, I used my ult and still got no read on him becuase he was invisible - because that ability needed to be even stronger of course!It just said that there was a nearby threat, but gave me no red marker on him until he left invisibility, at which point it's obviously too late. I guess I just need to switch to either be a camping cuck, sitting in his chair for 25 hours before someone happens to stumble by (this was in the middle of nowhere on the map, not a clustered place or anywhere near loot), go thief and just dash away whenever there' s any kind of trouble, or just avoid solos all together?>git gudI guess? If I could get headshots without seeing or hearing anyone instantly, sure I would have no issues at all against these losers.
>>560833354meds nowand go back to your shitty site as well
>>560832997you need to go back
>>560832090I hated the game at the beginning, then started to love it, but now the more I play it the more I hate it
>>560832974say "Requiescat in pace" during the finisher animation to anyone I finish
>>560833545>but I can't manage a fight where the enemy is entirely silent and invisible inside of a smoke grenade, because they inevitably get the advantage on meJust relax, stay far from smoke, shoot the smoke a little bit. He'll either shoot back, or get hit, if you crack the shield, feet start glowing.>>git gudOr just get away from the smoke. You don't have to fight on his terms. Be calm, and you'll ace everything. Chillax
>>560832362when it's not a mida kit day I simply not play the game. I don't understand why the game refuses to let players always use the guns they like, at least grey stuff should always be available.
>>560833686I did retreat away from the smoke, but he exited it in invisibility and just got the inevitable drop on me. Just like every time.
>Fight and earn a proper several minute long PvP encounter, get goop>half a minute later turn a corner and get one tapped at full health/shields by a shotgunThis is why this game will never take off
>>560833706you can store free kits in the vault. if theres one you like, load up on it
>>560833740>I did retreat away from the smoke, but he exited it in invisibilityNext time, shoot a lil bit of bullets in every "section" of the smoke. And you should hear footsteps, when he's walking towards you.Don't sweat it, it will come to you naturally.
>>560833632thats every good game in a nutshell
The kill goal on bots for the Marathon lends credence to all the people who were saying that Bungie is completely out of touch with reality. It's inflated enough that it's clear they were expecting a much bigger player population.
>>560833928no, good games make me keep playing it and I keep liking it even after getting thousands of hours into it, after 50 hours in marathon you already start to see the cracks at the foundation.
>>560833545NTA but when dealing with assassins you need to focus heavily on sound and angles. Whenever they activate their tactical invis, assassins make a really obvious sound queue (it's like a whirring energy sound), and most of them are retarded and will start moving around normally which means you can track their footstep sounds to get a rough idea of where they are. If you hear the whirring, back off and hold an area that will force them to make sound so they can get to you. If they smoke, you NEVER step into the smoke; you will just get knifed to death or blam'd. Back off and force them to come at you in a way that negates the advantage of the smoke (ie. if they smoke a room, run out of the room and keep an angle on the doorway or any windows, if they smoke out in the open run away from the smoke and to cover).Grenades are huge in solos and for fucking with assassins too; there's a reason special forces IRL just spam grenades into a room before breaching. Take grenades so if you know someone is in a room you can just flush them out, and you can piff them into an assassin's smoke and usually force him out or kill them that way. People are so focused on trying to get that clean shotgun blast that they lack the reaction time to get away when a grenade lands at their feet.
>>560834048If i didn't browse these threads how the fuck would I know we need to kill 6 million zogbots? Nothing about this in game. Bungie are actually retards, I like this game but they don't deserve any fandom whatsoever
>>560834048>lends credence to all the people who were saying that Bungie is completely out of touch with reality.I mean it's quite obvious, they just keep confirming it
>>560834147Well I have good news, it genuinely seems like they are doomed now to layoffs at the bare minimum.
>be me>play Marathon>get nervous>remember my mom loves me>feel invincible>earthquake powerful>just like a tidal wave>SHE MAKES ME BRAVERRRRAAAAAAAHHHHH
Literally the only thing I want is to not be matched with freekit retards every time I spawn into trios.
>>560834803>fill twice in outpost>both times it's freekit deafblind nonresponsive randos who just sprint off in a random direction and die in under a minuteHow do these subhumans function in day-to-day life
Do you get money from items that are compromised on exfil? It says "transmuted" on the end screen but I don't know if it means it just automatically gets destroyed or if you actually get the sell value from it.
>>560834976Yeah but I get these types that bring kit. On release most people knew how to play, the last week it seems players have gotten worse, but is it new people?
>>560834976>fill in dire marsh>teammates are all silent freekit retards with missions that involve running all over half the map>they immediately sprint towards the mission on the other side of the map, only stopping to shoot nearby bots and make noise>fill in outpost>get one guy with a mic and blue gear, one freekit>not completely terrible but the gear disadvantage makes winning the immediate and inevitable brawl hard as fuck>fill in perimeter>find a decent duo consistently for some reason>except now they're all in duo queuesFucking kill me
>>560835232Got contracts? Play solo. Need loot? Play Rook.Even doing basic contracts is a chore with trios now. I don't know how it got so bad.
>>560835019Items sold will pop up as auto-sold, and it's afaik exclusively treasure items or quest items.Transmuted means something else happened to them and the item in question should tell you what that was. Schemas get added to the armory, items with materialist/enduring/damaged have that happen to them, etc.
>outpost>final exfil>bubble shield my trio>notice a rook coming>my squad is facing the other way, they don’t see him>say nothing, there’s 5 seconds left so the rook might as well come along>rook enters the bubble>starts firing at everyone>gets shotgunned immediately>teammate assasinates him with 1 second leftWhat was he thinking
I just found dissected ayy lmao remains on Outpost. Codex says the being was 193cm tall
I don't think I want to do this ranked mode. It sounds legit bad and is going to split the player base even more
Loot is secondary.Contracts don't matter.kiLl yoU KiLL YOu KILL YOU
i refundeded :(
>>560835537So that’s the Phor Fighter, the basic ass enemy from the first game.
>3 seconds left on final Extraction>Assassin kills me fully so I lose everything Literally WHY? You don't get enough time to loot anything. You got NOTHING for killing meFUCK YOU
>>560835961>people actually refund games
>>560835906>.85 KDR
>>560835906shut the fuck up campfag, you're as subhuman as the console nog that posts here you discord dick sucker
>>560836053>Literally WHY? You don't get enough time to loot anything.Logically speaking, you can deny other players resources, so they can't use them against you in the next match.Personally, I do it because it's a pleasure. Your run is my target, your experince, your time. I want to ruin it.
>>560836172>you're as subhuman as the console nogThat's because I'm him, dumbass. And why are you checking the discord, you fucking homo?
>spam pickpocket drone on dude extracting>drops 2 purples and some random greensDisgusting way to go.
>>560836053sorry bro it's free arachne xp
>>560836304No you're not me, what the fuck. I'm straight. It's not gay to lick Vandal's ass, and bust in Thief's mouth.
>>560836053There's a codex challenge for doing it too, it's how bungie want you to play
>>560836053I get fun and I dont care about anything else. Extractslops are roguelikes, everything in my vault is expendable and temporary. Finishing a faggot with 2 seconds to go is better than five prestiges.
>>560836656>Finishing a faggot with 2 seconds to go is better than five prestiges.BbBaaAsssSEDd
>no playerbump whatsoever from cryo archives>no content for the next 2 1/2 months
>>560837042>from cryo archivesits not out yet
>>560835975I hope the game lives long enough to see them. I'm really curious what they are going to do with the design of them. Compilers already kind of fit the aesthetics of the reboot and don't need to change much but these dudes would look out of place if you just straight adapted a tall lizard man.
Where exactly is everyone finding purple and gold gear? Doing all of Pinwheel, including Command, sometimes nets met 3-5 purples but I haven't seen a single gold in 20+ runs.What am I missing?
https://streamable.com/ylwq0pI can't even see him in the video
>free kit trios>other 2 rats like me>failed 3 times from just getting rekt in outpost with other randos>anyway start of round i run to one of the red access keys>a team already there, get rekt>get resd by triage>hear fight right underneath us right below the bridge>go see>the previous team is looting some 2 fags with their backs out completely in the open>rekt them with my shitty free smg and steal their blue guns and shiels lol>us 3 are now fully decked out with their stuff>triage STILL wants to do his shitty quest while yellow already pinged to exfile>it's only been 6 minutes in but yeah let's gtfo still>triage goes on his own to the building next to exfil>gets downed by USC>we fight them, res him and go to exfil>triage still wants to do his quest like a retard>leave with yellow and tell him to fuck offhis excuse was there was still 20 minutes left in the map...
Where even are the collectibles in outpost, the only ones I ever found were in wall safes
Man, outpost solo is filled with total pussies. I did a few free kits runs in there with the goal of getting good at accessing the pinnacle lockbox and was not expecting to get it open with little to no resistance in 2/3 of my runs. If you just zip around across rooftops while you run between key spawns players literally just cower in fear and hope you don't notice them. Saw a destroyer at one point on an opposite rooftop while I was grabbing a master key and he just stared at me for a sec before ducking back into cover and staying there. I went to leave the roof and saw a vandal crouch walking around on the ground floor and just lit them up with my grey volt thrower and they didnt even fight back.When I opened the pinnacle box for the second time it had a gold marathon key and some other good shit in so I decided to peace out with 8 minutes left because I figured the rest of the map would be converging on pinwheel once I opened it and I was still just running around with my volt thrower. I run straight out and head to an exfil point, exfil with about 5:30 on the clock and it turns out I was the last player on the map. The hell are people doing on this map?
>>560837782>geared up with 2/3 opposing teams gone and 20 minutes of timeThere's literally no better opportunity for doing contracts, you're a retarded faggot and you'll lose all that oh-so-important gear you looted in the first run that you take it out
>>560837713You got hit with the epic hardcore PvP this game has to offer (ie a hitscan gun that will one shot you from across the map)
>>560838367when I get greedy like this anon did I ALWAYS lose the gear immediately
>>560838367This, I don't think people think that far ahead, it's just>this is going to make my stash value look so big>omg a big number when i exfil'd>ok lets do it again!>queue up sponsored kit
What are the compilers still doing on the Marathon a hundred years later anyway? It’s like they’re locked in there.
>>560837713imagine existing outside skill issue this game is not for you
how the fuck am i consistently getting the shittest most directionless retard teammates on outpost. i have people level 60+ queuing on outpost with a contract for a different map who just wander around aimlessly, hoover up loot, immediately die when we encounter a team and never push. how can you be level 65 and still be so fucking bad at the game that all you do is waste other people's time because you're just fucking dead weight. i don't understand they are even a real person or how they actually function irl when they're so mentally retarded
>>560839165(you)
>>560838861Right? Very interesting. Now grind 100 hours to have a chance to find out
>>560838674>>560838367yellow left 11k i left with 8ktriage prolly left with 0all in the span of 7 minutes
>>560837212I’d imagine they won’t show up until you’re back on the Marathon in the ACTUAL time period where the game is taking place. The theory is that this form of Tau Ceti with the runners is a simulation by Durandal, and that the actual game is taking place in the same year as the original game.
Cryo is going to coincidentally going to go up on Friday isn't it
>>560839179>how can you be level 65 and still be so fucking badYou can die and level up>that one reddit story of a guy that doesn't get any better>but his account keeps ranking up>essentially putting him in harder and harder lobbies
>>560839465We knew this from the start. It was always going to go up 2 weeks after release, typical of all MMO raids.
>>560837713thats cuz he onetapped you with a thermal longshot from like 80m
Vault really needs a tag feature so I can tag items I want for different loadouts together, and also tag and sell trash.
I honestly don't see how cryo will change anything but outpost was a nice step up from primeter and dire marsh. The problem is that there isn't enough random shit going on in the first two maps imo. Needs more weather and stuff. But they announced that perimeter will be night time next season? All maps should just have something like that and weather conditions but like...already
>>560839628This game shines indoors in claustrophobic settings. Dire being so open is what leads to a lot of the frustration with that map. Perimeter is a good intro but after that might as well not exist besides hauler. Outpost feels fully realized while the other two are very much just "maps" to me. I think cryo could be a masterpiece of level design that 12 people will enjoy.
>>560839628Cryo is the selling point. It has to contextualise the weapon/build grind into some sort of boss and story.It’s bigger than people think. It’s bridging the gap between online arcade shooters and MMO PvE progression systems.
>>560839814>PvE progression
>>560839628>Needs more weather and stuffTo be fair I think the weather in Marathon does a lot more than in many games. It changing your heat disappation rate is neat, the fog is pretty brutal on LOS without thermals, and rain makes noise that's clearly quite similar to footseps intentionally which means regular walking is much safer.I wish lockdowns were more of a thing but they show up so late and require taking shit in, so they just feel like an extra treat for people who're clearing the map anyway.
>>560840023>waaaah there’s mmoshit in my AAA slop Nigga YOU bought the game
This game also needs a more efficient way to strip weapons of attachments from containers and backpack them instantly, this games fucking garbage ass UX pisses me off.
>Paid kit Quad>Task on Mansion to collect 8 scrumble heads from the new aliens>Guy and his obvious E-GF run off by themselves leaving me and 4th alone together.>Got my secondary SoiG0n with a Gold Mod that doubles the damage but halfs the fire rate.>Mid-Range Smell scope on it.>See a pack of Scrumbles crawling out of a hole.>Engaging the targets with my new buddy and we start getting beamed by 3 separate STAP-L3RS all at once.>My purple shield barely keeps me alive but my squadmate goes down.>Pop my Gold Shower super heal. Regens shield and heal at same time but I only ever found one. Revive buddy quick for meat shield while I regen on their approach.>Throw down my D1L-D0 paint turret and drop my DI3-L8R personal shield cover. >Whip out SoiG0n just in time for them to round the corner.>Cartwheel to I-frame the 2 separate double barrels they unload at me.>Kills my squadmate instantly.>Pop first one with the Big SOI. Shield the next and swap weapons while sliding back into my personal cover.>D1L-D0 is pounding their asses from behind>Secondary is a HuRT-TH3M.>Unload full mag downing the last two and survive with sliver of HP.>Feel triumphant as I celebrate my pure ownage.>Remember I'm in Quads and their 4th uncloaks behind me and kills me as I was checking their loot.Game fucking sucks. I'm uninstalling.
>>560840204managing mods, implants, and cores blue and lower feels like a complete waste of time
>>560840204this game has surprisingly TERRIBLE qol for a 5 billion dollar studio title
>>560840285Not even, sometimes they provide tangible benefits like suppressors and LMG shields or like +50% range barrels, that’s why I am frustrated by it, I would like inexpensive attachments that have actual utility, aside from my stockpile of extra UESC damage white chips that I run as a placeholder chip.
>>560840124For pvp only, I'm not doing no quests. Fuck looting boxes and shit
>>560840407Well I guess I never even realized because it's such a pain to interact with, I guess that proves my point I just assumed everything that wasn't high tier sucks because I didn't waste five minutes after every match clicking weird little squares that all look the same
>>560840309It’s fucking mind boggling that I am basically working two jobs by suggesting game fixes that I know they lurk and read on here for. They should frankly fucking hire me atp, unfortunately I am too old and have 0% actual industry experience so I would be a QA chud at best.
count down the the bot kills?
>>560840621>the bot kills?Every time you die it counts +1 bot
>>560840554I did too, but then upon hearing about Cryo’s budget cap, I knew I needed to probably be looking into alternative cost effective loadouts. Which fortunately this game has in spades, you just have to wade through ungodly muck with no explanation to find them. All the fucking volt weapons are freak fucking mutants.
>>560840621https://marathon.winnower.garden/cryoarchivesomeone shud put this in the op
>>560840781thanksthese recent OPs have been beyond dogshit the guy cant even clear out the embed tags
>>560840781the fuck is taking so longoh right the PvE is hard for PvPfags
>>560840418Raped take
>>560840781Done>>560840958>>560840958>>560840958About time for a new one anyway
>>560840840If I were a NEET we would all be in Cryo rn saying “We’re gonna make it”
>>560837713Welcome to Bungie's point and click adventure and why you shouldn't have hitscan weapons in an extraction shooter, especially not sniper rifles that can hit you 200m away.
>1v1 guy with purple shield>I have blue shield, LMG shield, and bombing run core>shoot first>land enough shots on him after breaking his shield to launch 2 missile volleys>he's still not dead>his team-mate shows up and they 2v1 kill meHow the fuck is it possible for a game to be balanced this fucking badly after half a decade of development
>>560841104>Be anon>Use low damage weapon against a player with a higher shield than me>Engage said player without my team>Get in a 2v1>Die>Go and complain on 4chan about balancingLiteral rock brain.
>>560840991Trannycord OP, do not migrate
>>560841307You post like someone who sucks cock
>Volt thrower has no headshot multiplierWhat the fuck? Is it the only weapon that does this?
If I load into your fill and you don't engage with me on mic, you are my bitch for that run. No arguments, hush up and follow me and we will get things done. If you don't like it then stop being a submissive wimp scared to talk to boys.I run your ass.
>>560842718I do this, I don't have a mic so if people do they are in charge and if we happen to go by a POI I need great but beggars can't be choosers. We're not all retarded I promise
>>560841104Anon, cheats exists for this game already.
Question for the solos:How the fuck did you finish Traxus 4/4?
>>560846331Which 4/4?
>>560833159Not really, my performances massively improved when i got more confident in my movement and audio clue identification.If anything i'm more of the opinion that this game doesn't work for teams of three. Duo sounds much better on paper but haven't tried yet.
>>560846331Where you have to go all the way south of perim and then all the way north and kill commander?This is way easier with the UESC health nerf now, the challenge is moving through the map without someone killing you.
>>560811147I can believe it So far it's clear the team is composed of the teams that were in charge of BL, VoG, and Gambit. If Cryo is anything like DSC then it's a guaranteed hit. I want the motherfuckers that worked in desert perpetual to work on this shit, but I am sure they moved to D3.
>>560850452I cant manage it, i allways get killed.Either bots aggro all at once and gangbang me.Or i go in with a loadout, some nigger rapes me.I just want to play solo...
>>560854768Boss and enemies are easy. You just need to position yourself so you have cover to hide and heal. You can take all of them out with just a fucking Punch or Sidearm.The issue is to get to the south, not make any noise and to avoid every single fucker, knife every robot outside sneaky-beaky like, then not to trip over mines - just get that terminal and get out.And then you have to track back north to kill commander. Again, avoiding doing any shit that will give away your position. Like birds, turrets. Knife ticks and leave alone their nests.I'd suggest to simply find cover and wait it out for 10 minutes, so you have 5 min to get south, do your shit, and go north. Then boss and loot take about 5 minutes, and you can exfil at the closest/safe point.it is doable, but it is a gamble. Suppressed pistol helps a lot, and dont ever use magnum - that shit sucks donkey's ass. Bully or Sidearm are your go to, so is Punch with suppressor. I'd say Punch is all you need against UESC.
