old >>560429331
>>560896464Palachads run this game
levelling in mop right now and Im starting to see why it fell off
>>560896416you're only half the way there, WoW becoming an e-sport is the reason why it is gay. There is nothing masculine about bankstanding and ganking lowbies who don't know any better, there is zero honour in that as a 30-40yr old man.>>560896782just doesn't feel fun to play I don't know how they managed that, hardly played Cata.
>>560896754nothing in this game apart from a female orc makes me wince as much as seeing a male blood elf paladin.
alex runs this general
...to the ground
Mists of Pandaria 'Classic'
you know a #NOCHANGES FRESH UND FASHY would go hard rn ngl...
>>560898501It would be mid
Hat status?
Which realms are ubermensch and which realms are untermensch
is the arc over alex sisters?
another day closer to tbc ending and all of your gear becoming meaningless
is there a simpler way to write this macro?#showtooltip Renew/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Renew; [help] Renew; Renew
scream 7 finished downloading, gonna watch it while fishing
>>560907967does the gear become unequipable when the wotlk patch releases or something?
>>560908046Can you remove help and nodead? Or will it not error if you try to cast it on a hostile/dead playerIt’s not like it’s a target macro, so I don’t get why you need that in there.
>>560907967actually some sunwell gear still really good in wotlk at least for my resto shaman t6 2pc still bis in kara
should i downrank any heals as priest?
Why is this general dead?It’s cause we’re all too busy playing the game… right?
>>560912898Its because its run by doomer tranny psg faggots that are constantly promoting their stolen ip or wowcloneYou cant even make your own wowcg thread because jannies just delete it
>>560910094basically just greater heal I downrank so i can always have a decent buffer heal I can spam on tank. focus target your other tank healer and try to stagger heals with them
>>560914470So you are downranking greater heal to 1k even though the last rank of heal that heals 1k
>>560917278well yes, greater heal scales better if you get empowered healing talent, but I should've mentioned I don't really use rank 1 it's mostly rank 2 or 3 for downranking but use whatever rank suits needs of current boss fight or tank health chunkage
>guild is not doing the pumper 20s hkm kill strat
>>560919271>guild IS doing the pumper 20s hkm kill strat
>>560919528>guild assigns dps to click on mag
>>560919827>Usually on a cube>Randomly switched to 'backup' for different cube>New recruit is on mine>He doesn't click it, luckily someone was near by and grabbed it>Gets told over voice to click his cubeMoon?>Makes no effort to do cube again>I end up doing what I'm assigned to do every other raid>we beat boss>the retard in question is in my kara group this weekAt least he hasn't SR'd nathrezeim mindblade
>>560898501would you make it past level 25 this time?
>>560920949Blackfathom Deep endgame raid content. BFD era servers when?
>>560919827You literally stop for 1 sec to click the cube and continue dpsingDo you suffer from tunnel vision or something?
>>560921350Phase 1 of sod was literally the best version of wow ever
>>560921525wtf think of his parses???
>>560920250we recruited ele shaman last week and he has been in my kara grp since then SRing mindblade, which has only dropped once so far>>560921525no you hold it as long as possible, pop lust and pump, what do you think happens to kill time when you assign dps classes such as mages, warlocks, hunters, warriors to do this?
>>560921525my group had some guy shit his pants the first week over us not fully channeling so we do max channel now.
>>560923268The kill time? Nothing happens, your dps is irrelevant lil nigger
>>560923414t. green parsing boomerget off the game and this subreddit and go take care of your family
>>560923605Its not vanilla and you are not doing top dmg as a warriorYou look like a cuck
>>560923726i play mage nigga
>>560923726inspecting random warriors is the funniest shit. why would they willingly do that to themselves? lmao
hamsterbros gtfihhttps://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolinahttps://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolinahttps://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolina
>>560923726Kwab
i hate warrior players who insist that they must be the fury warrior in tbc instead of rerolling hunter like everyone else who played warrior in classic
>>560927286>Should reroll instead of playing the character they like playingWhat mental illness is this?
>>560927430Hunters do dmg, warriors dont
>>560927486Not what I asked. And that's also false, people claimed warriors do no DMG before tbc classic and got proved very wrong because buggy privates weren't accurate (imagine that) Might as well go full retoilet and level every class so you just play what's strongest instead of something you personally enjoy kek
Just play the game
>>560927792Cope harder and be a good tankcuck this expac
>>560923726You don the dress now lil brownie
>>560907967that only happens when in retail my felstriker(lvl 60) and rod of the sun king(lvl 70) are still meaningful until then
>>560932453don't worry this is going to be the wotlk era servers
>>560928464Last I checked my class can't tank. Think you got brown derangement syndrome buddy
I regret making a druid, priest is way better as a healer, fuck this gay shit earth
>cant figure out how to heal with hotsFiltered and flushed
>>560907967every single iteration of WoW has lived and died by the gear cycle. A gnome spent above gold-cap for a Naxxramas sword, only for the server to become TBC, but would his sword have any more meaning if he had preserved his character on a dead server?Unironically the only surviving server where your gear has any meaning is probably the permanent-Wrath pserver.Retail is so bad they they have at least 4 or 5 major gear cycles within the same expansion.
>>560927286>encouraging people to play a completely different class>encouraging people to tame the bugexceptionally Jewish post, the goyim must give me numbers
>there are people in this thread who will spend 5,000 hours playing a class in TBC just because the Blizzard devs disproportionately gave them slightly more power with certain specs on the basis that other players with damage meters installed will think they are good players, only to be forgotten about in about (5) seconds when people close the game or the server dies.
>>560935510Meds
White male here, is rolling gnome a high test or low test choice?
>>560935585do you know how I know I'm right and you're wrong? The pets don't have names. People genuinely believe the damage meter matters this much.
>>560935585He's right desu
>>560935743If the pet doesnt have a name, the hunter is a bot, simple as
>>5609356385you can usually tell if a gnome player is playing a gnome because they enjoy playing a gnome or playing a gnome just because they think it's going to annoy somebody.
>>560935638high test unless youre mage
>Priests have a mind control ability What did blizzard mean with that?
you have done your pvp dailies for 2,8k honor right anon?
>>560935638gnome was the first character I made as a kid because I thought it was cool being a midget
>>560939052handing in marks from each bg is way more fun. I suppose you're a tranny who made a bloodelf and has no marks from classic
R.I.P. Chuck Norris
Hello anons, I want to try TBC for the first time on retail WoW. I’ve only played TBC on private servers before, and not for very long. Since I’m starting solo, which would be a better choice, a ret pally or a hunter? I’m not aiming to be super hardcore—my endgame will mostly be heroics and maybe a raid or two. I mainly just want to enjoy the expansion and see how it feels on retail.
>>560897618Bit late but there you go anonchama, my male blood elf ret pala (chaddest combo btw)
>nick streams competitor Adrullan Online>removed from team the next dayhmmmmmmmmmmm
Oh my nigger it's raining in jaguero isle!
>>560947243>alex starts to 180 on the game now that a lead dev isnt sucking his cock 24/7
>>560943828Hunter easily
>>560944704nothing chad about making a pretty character
>>560949838pretty funny to see, guess this arc is over
What would people consider scummier, charging a straight fee for tanking or no fee but all unneeded blues, greens, and greys go to tank?
did /ourslob/ unsub?
who the FUCK thought it was a good idea to give rogues cloak of shadows and trannystep abilities HOLY FUCK its infuriating to play vs this hero class
>>560951083>greys go to tankkek, has that jewry really evolved to that point?gold is only scummier if the tank pretends to not know he's passing on all loot
I'm basically just raidlogging it feels weird paying monthly sub to log in 2 nights a week, totalling maybe 4 hours of playtime.Done every single quest in outland
Treehealer should not be able to tank so much damage. Its just silly.
>tank charging you to do his jobnot a problem in the fixed version of the game
>>560950329>prettygaaay
>>560954002you're supposed to play with friends20 years and you still haven't figured this out?
>WHY ARE YOU CHARGING ME? YOU HAVE TO CARRY ME FOR FREE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>560954002The best part of wow is leveling and early max lvl, after you get almost full and you are only after your bis, it becomes a slog
>>560954060Because tankings as braindead as dps in retail
>>560955946but your parsiesyou rank 1 glad
>>560955723>NO I WON'T PAY YOU THE EQUIVALENT OF 2 DAILY QUESTS, FUCKING JEW FUCK!people say they love mmos then get mad at the social aspects that make mmos great
>>560956115its braindead in classic too, though
>>560956115most of the girl streamers play tank now really weird
>>560956417>>560956513So long as threats a real mechanic its got room to fuckup.So people will refuse to tank for fear of making a mistake.So people dont tank because their mistakes are visible
>>560955946Level 15 to 30 is the peak WoW experience
>>560955946Yeah I'm not really looking forward to SSC/TK/ZUL'AMAN/BLACK TEMPLE/HYJAL/SUNWELLWe will go from 3 and a half hour raid weeks to like 6-8 hours and its gonna feel like a second job. I would just like to unlock the ZA bear for once in my life
>>560956549whats the difference between a real mechanic and a pretend mechanic?
>>560956417then why is it such an unpopular role?
>>560957243because the average player is so retarded it creates the illusion that the role requires more finesse than it actually does
>>560957243Because only paladins can tank decently heroic dungeons, even though they are made of paper. Warrior and feral are shit at holding threat. So, yeah, a single spec for a single class is good for a mandatory role in every dungeon. Gj blizzard
>>560957548Or it really is a role that requires more focus and responsibility to perform? I prefer dps and freely admit this, why can't you?
>>560958234it doesn't. that's just a cope many tank players tell themselves to feel special. in fact, a reoccurring problem with the role is that its comprised of people looking to feel special
>>560944704they are meant to be mana-crack addicts and fallen high elves and yet 99% of the belfplayer base makes them look like Paris Hilton or Jojo's Bizarre Alliance class adventure.
>>560942779he's actually dead, damn
>no mention of Chuck Norris in any Classic game chat, just more gay boost and tank service spam>Moon Guard chat on Retail is making Chuck Norris jokesIt's so over
>no, you see I picked female orc because I enjoy the mankrik's wife gameplay, I have the error sounds on, I use voice emotes all the time, I actually don't care for the racial and the animations, I wish they looked more like orcs than green humans.
>>560959391im sure reddit is all over it. perhaps that website is better suited for you
>admitting that you pay and play r*tail
>>560959730nta but you can make a retail character for free
if you pay for classic, youre paying for retail too
>>560953298tbc rogue reeks of satanic inspirationfrom the hunter perspective, you can never get distance from those niggers. even with all the wrath shit its still hard
It takes a special kind of homosexual to announce that you play retoilet
>>560957941you can definitely tell the the WoW dev team had incredibly loud paladin and warlock players because they have like 2x the toolkit.
it's funny how hunters are good in this expansion out of pure neglect, all you have to have is a slight idea of the pet table and it's just a fucking disaster, I mean a complete wreck, they did not give a shit, for hunters who genuinely enjoy the class flavour you have to wait until Wrath and even then they removed the pet relationships and fucked up the diets once again, fucking cursed class. 10% of the hunters actually want to play with pets and the other 90% want to play as dark rangers.
>>560961526blizzard really shouldve made 2 more classes for this game
>>560962569I loathe the fact that warlocks have more soul put in their class with the demon choices, I don't care if BM and Surv wouldn't pull the same PVE numbers, I fucking hate being attached to the other hunters who want to roleplay as a gun.
>>560959628Tell us more more about how you didn't play back in the day
https://imgur.com/a/e0MUigpOH NO NO NO, TBCSISSIES DON'T LOOK
>>560963860
>>560963167The warlock pets suck thoughLike aggressively bad.
>>560963167they needed to split hunter into a beastmaster style class and a ranger class
Warcraftlogs admin confirms the raiding population statistics are currently bugged and showing an extra 33-50% of duplicate parses. Warcraftlogs admin confirms the raiding population statistics are currently bugged and showing an extra 33-50% of duplicate parses. Warcraftlogs admin confirms the raiding population statistics are currently bugged and showing an extra 33-50% of duplicate parses.
>>560961526Hunter was slapped together during WoW's development and it showsIt was at least cool in early Vanilla when you actually had unique pet qualities like Lupos dealing shadow damageWithout that it's just niggas being all crazy over Broken Tooth when literally the only reason fast attack speed is 'good' is for cucking casters
>>560953298they litterally all think they're uber skilled as well. All rogues are KOS whenever seen out of stealth
Era won.
>>560963860damn its only 5x the size of mop and not 7x
>>560964184I've ran all 3 raids 4 times and haven't logged a single raid. Kys tranny
>>560964287I'm enjoying Era PvP on my Reck paladin. Rogues just feed me crits then I one shot them. Feels so damn good, and most of them never learn.
tbc is still thriving...
>>560964418>>560964184How do i log the raid progress?
Man I just hate when the tank is made of paper and then tries to tank 4+ mobs in heroics, not a single dps CC's and the retard dies while I'm still stacking lifebloons, move your fucking ass sometimes, why tanks think they need to receive every single blow to the face, holy shit, it's always paladins too
>>560928464
>>560965506Such a shame everything is post nerf.>HKMBoss fight that's 15-25 seconds long where you can cleave and have your CDs up for 100% of the fight since the encounter ends when Maulgar dies>GruulPost nerf with reduced health, damage and non existent shatter damage allowing you to bring fewer healers. Nightmare seed allows you to basically ignore shatter damage.>MagtheridonGuilds are now keeping the boss in permanent stunlock due to the 30 second cooldown on cubes. The stun also increases damage taken by 100%.
300k with no gdkps and post nerf raids seemed fishy
mage NEEDED an instant cast
>>560966942you got this, fire blast and ice lance lil bro
>>560964001I haven't played warlock in a long time, but they at least have their own abilities and themes, at least 3/4 of the pets in vanilla-TBC weren't given unique abilities.>>560964073I think lone wolf was a good attempt at that but it was introduced in WoD, lol>>560964226in vanilla they actually had plans to give the hunter pets more abilities, like the crocolisk ability was planned before release and then they just never implemented it until Wrath.That's the irony of it, for hunters who actually enjoy the class, TBC is just the Wrath waiting room. It's been 20 years or something and they still refuse to give Sporebats bite btw.
>>560964226As opposed to Lupos just being flat out good for everything since it ignores armor?
>>560965506Dream on you gray parsing dress needing cuck
>>560968160Warlocks pets damage is less than 5% of yours unless your demo and in which case BM mogs the shit out of them.They have zero raid utility and next to no group utility, what little they have is also fairly moot since they are all made of fucking paper compared to hunter pets.Any hunter complaining about warlock pets is on so much level of retardation you literally cannot be serious.
>>560966476perfectly explained why parsing is stupid as fuck
>>560969159you don't seem to understand what I mean I am complaining about hunter pets because cats, ravagers, wind serpents and maybe owls are given every single bit of utility and damage in the game and the rest of the 30 pet species are given nothing because Blizzard doesn't give a shit about Hunters, they are good not because Blizzard cared about them being good, they are good on accident. Hunter pets also have very little raid utility, there is ferocious howl and no one takes wolves anymore because they want to parse instead. I want Hunter to be nerfed, that is my point, I want the game to be better balanced.
>>560969159there is a reason why you only see the bug and nothing else
>>560969920Hunters were unfinished from the start, the class was originally supposed to use focus instead of mana but they ran out of time. WoW was always a very poorly managed game with tons of unfinished stuff.
>>560963823>its not reddit because people thought it was cool in the mid 2000sgo back
>>560964989You are retarded for joining a grp made by a dps warriorIf the tank is the leader everyone stfu and does what needs to bee done, including cc
>>560959628>>560972168lil zoom mad
>>560972430i was born in the early 90's, though
>>560971565classic+ is just Wrath talents and not going to Northrend, it is astonishing how obvious is and they'll fumble it. At least the stale Wrath meta is actually somewhat entertaining.
What are female belf prot paladins thinking now that the dust has settled and their aoe tanking meme is flushed down the retoilet?
alex stream when?
>>560972863Wotlk talents and spells are peak wow, too bad northrend sucks compared to the kino which is outland
>>560973452Yeah, so good that they intentionally deleted 80% of the talents and squished everything down in cacapoopoo
>>560968968Yeah which is basedShould have more pets like him with different wacky qualities that hunters will vie overThe Lupos spawn camping on Pservers was hilarious to see
>>560972168>muh redditGo back then since you love bringing it up
>>560968968in classic WoW, Crocolisks can ankle crack you, spiders can throw webs on you, raptors could outrun mounts, but when you tamed any of them, they couldn't do any of that.I mean raptors could still run and had claw but the rest were left with basically nothing.
i dont buy that devs hated Paladins in vanilla, if they did then why did they give them such powerful utility and crazy amount of immunities? it doesn't make sense
>>560975621The EQ players brought on to dev didn't like paladins but Blizz vets did
>>560975621the retards that were hired from pardo's eq guild hated paladins in mmosthe people at blizzard didn't
>>560976315Lmao, reminds me of the time back in vanilla when I beat the best warrior on the server as a holy paladin. I was also 11.
paladins should have weaker mana pools than priests, the most outrageous thing about paladins is that they don't OOM like boomkins, they should be absolutely shredding themselves to heal, they're wearing plate so they're obviously meant to be at the front lines of things but it never made sense to me when I see all these belf paladins in pvp who never OOM.why the FUCK are belfs better paladins than Draenei who are canonically probably the closest thing so far to a light-touched race?
>>560976315>balancing by parsescringe, r*ddit and SOVLless>balancing by DVELINGKINO, WHITE, SOVLFVL
horde rogue tried to gank some lowbie and an alliance rogue showed up and one-shotted them, rough
>>560978195Balancing by dueling actually makes sense compared to parses
Daily reminder if you feel the need to boost or buy gold you do not belong in wow classic. Go be a casual and ruin someone else's game. Go see your children instead of playing wow. Better yet Go play retail and fuck off forever.
>>560979464some of the most fun I've had in this game is trying to squeeze another level out of a crafting profession with like 2 gold.
>WTS [Kapuze des Zauberschlags]
>>560978694and then everyone clapped
>>560981281>horde players cannot conceive of a world where they have friends
>>560976315do warriors beat paladin in duels now?
>>560973386next arc
>>560975621i dont think they hated any classes, its just modern players who have 'figured everything out' and use addons to see data they shouldnt (threat) and chase only parses, you end up with a game where only 1 or 2 classes are supposedly 'good'if you dont use these external tools, every class is much more balanced and has their spot to shine
>>560983193except shadow priest u_u
>>560983193bingo. they didnt know what the fuck they were doing and hindsight is 20/20
>>560983279we're talking about classes, not individual spec trees
>>560983193>confirmation from kevin jordan that he was told to make pallies shit on purpose>forum posts where future wow devs would seethe about paladins on eq
>>560981523Depends on the pally player. Most are trash but my Reck paladin on Era kills Dreadnaught warriors and I'm still not finished kitting him out
there are boosties on the PVP servers killing players in vanilla zones, what can explain this phenomenon
>>560983532Why are Paladins shit? Is it because they don't do as much damage as a warrior? Okay, but they can heal, bless, buff and have a ton of utility that warrior doesn't have.I'd love for once for people to be forced to play this game without information they were never intended to have, threat as a mechanic is a lot more difficult when you can't cheat to see the values.
>>560983594>warrior using t3found the problem
>>560983532where can one find such confirmation?
>>560983193afaik, there are mods now that give every class hunter tracking
>>560983676the class was completely dysfunctional on release and it took class overhauls to make it good at healing and nothing else by 1.12. >threat as a mechanic is a lot more difficult when you can't cheat to see the values.no it's not, unless the tank is bad.
>>560984027>no it's noti mean it literally just is, your tank also wouldnt have access to the information either so would have to be more considerate about what he is doingthe game as a whole would be played slower and in a more meticulous fashion if people didn't have access to threat cheatsthe class isn't only good at healing, it's a very strong dungeon tank and provides excellent utility and moderate damage, again, this is an issue of modern players playing with cheats and caring only about parsing
>>560984219threat meters used to not be the standard, the only thing that was different was waiting till a certain amount of sunders to start attacking. i know that there's a good chance that i'm talking to someone who wasn't even born at the time so i'm going to tell you that if you're too young to have been there at the time then you should shut the fuck up.
>>560983445>the classes are balanced if we only pay attention to my selected spec trees
>>560984697the game was designed and revealed as having 9 classes to choose from, not 27 specs to choose fromWhen you made your character, you picked PRIEST, you didn't pick 'Shadow'You didn't even pick shadow until cataclysm made you pick a spec.You are a PRIEST.
>>560983532>>560983870bump
>>560985243check his discord >>560976315
>>560985560where can i find that?
>>560985716>pls spoonfeed meno
>>560985832>cant substantiate his claimsah
>>560985918lol im not gonna spend time googling a bunch of shit for an internet argument
>>560983705Dreadnaught does make you beefy af which is why I used it for an example
>>560986118yeah because youre just making shit up lol
>namedropping randoms like we're just suppose to know who they are
>>560986490Human S because they aren't picked for racial cheesing aside from rep who who gives a fuck about that aside from uber casuals lol
>>560986953old, grey haired male human mages look better than every other mage I'll give you that
>>560986490male drae should be moved to non existent tier
>>560986490r*ddit tier, surprised you didn't put söybeards to S tier
i only play femhuman casters
>>560986953Tauren were ruined when niggas started rolling them for their hitbox instead of the vibe
give me draenei warlocks and I'd play the toilet crusade
>>560988608let's see your tier then
>>560988608female blood elf players singlehandedly put a blemish on the game and are the definition of retail, undead are boring and basically just human: Horde edition, no one would play female orc if they didn't have the racials.
new player here
>>560983193every class is already brought to raids in vanilla so whats the problem?
>>560992725
>>560994297looks like sonmeone was in the meltie category lmao
>>560984502I raided in 2006 and 2007 and threat meters were raid standards then... could be because we wee new to the game though
>>560994772are you aware that world of warcraft released in 2004?
>>560994512>sonmeone
>>560994981people had damage meters in 2004people had damage meters for years in eq at that point I don't get where this no dps meters revisionism comes from
alex the 2004 naxx veteran told me nobody had addons in 2004 or even in 2007 when he was racing for his servers first t5
speaking of alex, HE'S LIVE NOW!
>>560995824lol, no it didn't. most add-ons like that were made in 2005 onward
>>560998159the game launched in late november, lolthe game launched in february of 2005 for europe lol
>you weren't supposed to be able to see threat that's cheating>which is why they never banned threat meters and started designing fights around it
>>560998568if you were meant to see it they wouldve made it a baseline part of the ui at the time, which they didnt for yearsthey decided it wasn't worth trying to battle the playerbase, unfortunately that meant the playerbase became entirely reliant on these cheats and when they have tried to take them away in the recent retail expansion the players are sperging out because they're unable to look at the game environment to solve mechanics and rely on airhorns and frames
>>560999092>they decided it wasn't worth trying to battle the playerbaseWrong, they did ban certain addons like the one that autohealed everything. Please shut the fuck up because you sound like a zoomer who wasn't actually there.
>>560990582I agree with your list and despise all bloodelf players but i also enjoy fem orc. The animations are great and they look good in armour. It's a shame they're now a troon max meta pick
alex is drunk and talking about assmongol
>1fp
>filtering posts just to read them anyways
leveling 60-70 is too fast
>>561005397Leveling 58-60 in Outland is the ideal speed imo.
W speed
Alex is wasted
herb/mining/skinwhats the combo that can make the most money?
Feels so good being a hpal chad in bgs, I can turn the tides on any battle with my buffies and heals
