Lock In Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-220287>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>560859946
>>560902348>>560902851Calico was a character for contrarians who believed that grappling with dogshit mechanics (jump and aim your leap at the enemy to actually hit them except it sometimes doesn't work and you need to flick your mouse down and to the side to actually hit someone right in front of you and there's a theoretical technique to actually hit your gloombombs consistently but it seems to be mostly wishful thinking and rain dancing, also good fucking luck if you ever need to chase someone into a room while in your ult because you will hit your head on the lintel and won't be able to go in, also the cat is useless until T3 but you also want all your other skills at T3 ASAP to actually do what you're supposedly made to do but that cat is pretty much the only thing making the character unique) is skill expression. She wasn't bad, just medicore and played like ass.They could have just fixed her abilities and left the numbers mostly the same and it'd be fine, the souls thing was retarded though I guess they couldn't have foreseen how controversial that'd be. They still need to fix cat melee with urn though.
>>560904080
Sex with Venator
Do you guys think that being able to take the urn hostage is something that should exist in the game? By that I mean taking the urn with intention of holding onto it or dropping it inside base
>>560904279>he wants to make it even harder for people to have a combeback
>>560904190>Cute (non-sexual)>Remlow test?
Shipping
Is there a reason they have not nerfed McNegro yet? How much fucking play data do they need to know that she's busted?
>>560904190>vindicta>not cuteexplain yourself
Finally a mod with Geist's hair down
#RAPEYOSHI
>>560904190>paradox>not cute??????
>>560904190>>560904451I want to hear the answer too
deygan dryan fihback buddiwonmattah
It baffles me when I see people without boots/enduring, having slow walk speed feels unplayable to me.
>>560904319Where did I imply I was on any side of the argument?
>>560904616By even bringing it up.
>>560904451>>560904567Vindicta isn't cute, she's beautiful
>Try Spirit Tank Shiv>Unkillable with a billion bleed damage because nobody buys dispelWtf this guy is actually fun
*weights your shots*
cool!
>>560904713STICK'EM
>>560904713BLEED
>>560904560>here's your qt3.14 bro
>Victor>Rem>DoormanI have made my peace, let the 60 minute game commence.
>>560904827I genuinely wanna quit until they add a proper drafitng mode. shit like this happens too often.
>>560904407post full art please
>team that doesn't even bother with fucking objectives and just gives the enemy all of their walkers and all of their urnsCool
can someone post graves cunnyi forgot to save it the last time it was posted here
>>560904819I build this item even less now, -% stamina recovery is absolutely horrid.
I'm never picking Lash again, this hero sucks balls and has been powercrept out of relevance.
>>560905342He really does get raped by every new hero and counterspell, refresher lash can sometimes catch people offguard but you end up a ult bot
gay sex with apollo! i don't have any art because almost nobody draws him without graves what the fuck
>>560905431>spoilerGood.
>>560905431You're either a newfag or you're trolling
>Knockdown metal pipe>Mo ult "Fight back nigga">Kelvin ice dome playing I'm a creep>Bikini Vindicta flying aboveAnyone else modding
>>560904860
>>560904278Calm down Mina!
>>560904407>>560905112Kill yourself, furnigger tourist.
Log in, ya fags.
check this!*steals your ult while your distracted*
>>560905769I'm brool'n
>>560905747>tourist Parrot.
I just played my first 2 games on silver. she's really fun in human form but the moment she turns into a wolf everything fucking sucks>can't catch up to heroes>need to be in the middle of enemies to damage them (get insta melted)>damage is extremely mediocre compared to human formthe only good use for it I found is free heal and leap to escape a bad situation
>>560905298They lowered the stamina recovery penalty though?
>Newfriend complains he is dying constantly >Look at his gameplay>He exclusively plays No&Skill and just repeatedly heavy melees people and constantly gets parried, he almost never uses his gun>He wanders off deep into enemy territory by himself to look for people to punch and then ult and then get ganged up on and killed >He will ult people directly under their walker and get stomped to death
>>560905783My Ult is bad and honestly more of a detriment than anything elsewhat character I am?
>>560905594already posted this one lmfao. sure there's art OUT there but not much that i'm trying to ritualpost with
>>560905989If I say her name it will start a flame war...
gut ivy
>>560905612>>Mo ult "Fight back nigga"No im not black or 12 years old
>>560906013>I don't have any art>posts artYeah okay
i play rem and tehres nothing u can do about it
>>560906253You're a big boy Anon I respect that
>>560906261yeah here's some more art bro
They should replace shiv execute with a stun + dot damage. It should be a single target pocket ult when maxed out.
ok where do i go if i want to read the lore of the characters i'm bored
>>560906484Fuck it, give him back the ult that let him control an enemy
>>560906509the char select screen
>>560906524Doesn't fit with him thematically.
>Deadlock in 2024>Yoshi took feedback from the community>Deadlock in 2026>Feedback is only taken by ecelebsWhy did it get so bad?
>>560906710post on the forums
>>560906710It's cause you sent all those emails to Yoshi calling him a stupid faggot who deserves to die cause he puts black people in his game
>>560906710They listen to the forums not 4chan, "give a red rocket and 6 tits to Silver" is the type of shit people in these threads beg for
>>560904560Paradox a cutei love her accent
>>560905252g-guys
There are a few lane combo's that checks the geneva suggestions but holy fucking disgustingly boring atrocity it is to fight against Chief prepping bull and Nepollo together.
Played against a Doorman who went 0/7 but threw people into his fountain multiple times. Even got three people at once one time. Still lost the game though, such is life as the Doorman i suppose.
>>560907186throwing into fountain is basically an endgame or losing position strategy so its indicative of an incoming loss for him, regardless of how fun it is to do
>>560907063You're mixing up your crowd of yuri shipping trannies with /vg/ again. Here we talk about gameplay.
>>560907063my change is literally in the game right now.
Bullied doorman rage ulting you with no followup
>he buys the egg>he builds cultist>he builds spellbreaker>he builds any heal slutting item>he builds knockdown>he builds focus lens>he build fortitude>he builds refresher>he builds echo shard>he builds silence wave>he builds any barrier item>he builds full orange>he builds full purple>he doesn't build magic carpet>he doesn't build superior stamina>he doesn't build both dash items>he doesn't pick unstable concoction in jeet brawl
PLEASE I DON"T WANT TO GET RAPED BY WRAITH ANYMORE
>>560904080>new pve gamemode in the works that is tied to the lore and plays like risk of rainbeing ties to the lore is strange, are they ditching the VNs?how does risk of rain plays like?
>>560907414Rather have sup stam than 20% spirit resist cuz ultimately if you're caught out you're nuked anyway.
>>560906145I'll say it for youHolliday
>>560904434these two bully the shit out of holliday
i love victor
>>560907498if anything the VNs prob are dotted between missions
>>560906710he enjoys my feedback talking about heroes i like and items i enjoy buying. im a shitter who is play testing for fun and not chasing mmr while never dropping a "THIS GAMES X IS BAD" in anything. of course i say whats bad HERE
When is he coming back?
>>560907860they prob need to rethink what kit to give himhis existing one in hero labs was kinda boring as fuck and pretty lame
do you guys think this patch is pretty good for hero balance? feels like everything has the potential to win games right now, except magician and I guess warden, they need a lil buff my issue is just that games feel way too one sided, it's pretty boring for both leading and losing team to be in the state that they're in, felt like patches pre Christmas were a lot more, swinging back and forth much more
>Female knight that is super clumsy and moans loudly when taking damageGet on it Yoshi
If a player has movement that's way too good for an Arcanist, does that usually mean they're a smurf?
victor is PRETTY GAY in brawl. i never got heal reduction
>>560904713THE BAXTUH SUHCIETY
>>560908097That or stuck in ELO hell and can't climb on their account even if they improved.
>>560908097im bumping into players who are airborne like all match and never die in... seeker
>>560907860I thought they made him into Venator. Kinda pointless to have another elderly burly white dude character when you could have something interesting for a change
>>560907860whats the lore reason for the sigils on peoples arms and shit?
>>560908230im on actually in alchemist... i passed my friends in 1/10th his games hehehee
>>560908038They pumped objectives full of free souls. Snowballing was always gonna go out of control. I think they just want games to end faster. I don't like it but it is what it is. Normalfags would rather have a 20 minute stomp than a 45 minute knockdown drag-out.
>>560908241>not wanting the Vent and Raven bara slopnot gonna make it
>>560908241We can never have enough big burly men, keep em coming Yoshi
>>560908230My friend lost like 20 of 20 games in 2024, didnt play again until this year and couldnt get out of seeker until he had like 100 wins and was better than I was in Ritualist. MM is just fucked
i don't like Paradox's ultit doesn't seem all that useful until max rank
>>560908425It's just a worse bebop hook, she needs a new ult that fits with her whole time thief thing
>>560908265Raven is Russian, he's probably covered in Russian prison tats under that suit.Or just magic shit, who knows. We still don't know why Baxter Society people cut off their right arm and that's a bigger lore "secret" that random magic doodles.
>load into standard game>"hi first time here!">"new player here too! :D"
>>560908480Yeah but your thinking of it backwards
>>560904713NIE FAUT
>>560908367Isn't it weird how Reddit goons nonstop over Celeste and Silver proclaiming themselves to be such LGBT allies with their nonthreatening male tranny gooning, but these people would go EWWWWW at gay bara ships?
>>560908496Oracle btw
>>560908496Looks like I was in your game lol
>>560908496What's bad about this?
I am never getting out of Arcanist
>>560908496genuinely what are you supposed to do in this situationhope the other team has new players? otherwise its literally just a free no effort win for the other team because of this dogshit matchmaking
>>560908736come join us in the muck at Seeker
>>560908717Because I've been playing for hundreds of hours and am in a somewhat high rank and I want fair fights
>>560905612Venator ult The Kill Silver ult Animal I Have Become Paradox ult Waltz of the FlowersWarden ult Make Debut and a bunch of remodels (Holliday, Ivy, Yamato, Calico
>>560908736>>560908809InitiateGODS own /dlg/
>>560907860when they rewritte his lore
>>560908736this but ritualistit doesn't matter how well I play, I always am the highest elo player on my team and have to carry a bunch of animals that go 1-12 on victor
My condescending disinterest in street brawl is the closest I've ever felt to relating to the kind of autists who play Smash Bros with items off
>>560908480Yoshi doesn't know what to do with Paradox.Remove barrier, make the swap take it's place with no barrier and no damage but a 2 second silence on either t2 or t3 upgrade. Then make whatever actual ultimate you want, still functions in the role she had before but is now also an actual character.
>>560908809why are you in seeker? im not hating, i just assume you could probably climb out if you cared
it never gets better btw, Im upper archon trying to get into oracle and you get absolute brool tards who go 11 and 11 and think theyre carrying. This game is unbelievable and I think there is no good rank.
>>560908736My rank is completely frozen no matter how much I win or lose, I stopped caring about it at this point.
is greytalon worth learning?
>>560908875Warden ult I put the Disposal unit mod on his ult.>>560909095Also meant remove wall and swap with no barrier.
>>560909095Are you suggesting to put paradox swap on a 25s cooldown
>>560908809Being in seeker is a special kind of hell. How the fuck can I carry when our abrams goes 5/20?
Mina Ha...
>>560909143The matchmaking is bad in general, but the fact that the game assigns essentially random drafts means sometimes the enemy just gets 5 god heroes and there's nothing you can do.
only good players are allowed to post in /dlg/ (oracle and above)
>>560909232No, you can lower it a bit from the current one but the nerfs to damage and barrier it gives are already there, cooldown can be adjusted later but it's a moot point since bebop has the better version on a 9 second cd.
I'm eternus btw
>>560909232The change I suggested would make her way more fun to play since wall is almost a dead skill now.
i can't play victor anymore man its too much adrenaline being the carry im not built for this
>>560909350Just saw a guy on TikTok complaining that he had to explain to his Oracle teammate what the Urn was
New Paradox ult: she makes every enemy around her rewind a certain amount of time
>>560909526based oracle fuck the urn
>>560907860>>560908241>>560908367>>560908385We have more than enough blatant barafaggot pandering in this game, any more would be a tragedy.
>>560909526Who the fuck even gives a shit about the urnIf I want a teamfight I can force it better and more productively by pushing a walker and by the time I could run urn for free the game is already ending and I should focus on finishing off enemy's base
>>560904713SOFTENING EM UP
>>560909519I play Victor because I get to be the carry while being shit at the game
>>560909838I don't think some of my teammates know what a walker is
>>560909526>>560909661>>560909838Urn is unironically a noob trap
>>560910001Let's see you say that when you have a team that keeps letting the enemy have back to back free urns that they don't contest.
>>560909654 An aoe slow that adds seconds of cd to people's skills.Many options for a cool themed ult.
Give me three reasons how urn improves Deadlock
>>560910160Funny voicelines
>>560909682This is Valve we're talking about, bara designs are their specialty
>>560910107chronosphere with ability duration, projectile speed, attack speed, movement speed buff/debuffs
>queue a standard>friend A goes "vindicta?!">friend B goes "holliday?!">they never play these characters but somehow decided it was a great idea to leave them in the pool anywayswe unsurprisingly lost
>your team wipes out the enemy team>they just meander around doing nothing with the opportunity>enemy team wipes you>whole team in mid nearly immediately, kill the midboss within seconds
>>5609101601. I'm just sitting here, waiting to be appreciated.2. Someone will pick me up. Soon. Any time really.3. I'm just a spirit jar patiently waiting. Sitting here with no cares in the world. Just. Waiting. Perfectly content. Happy in my lot in life, comfortably knowing that I haven't been forgotten.
>>560910160YOU WOULD THINK MORE PEOPLE WOULD WANT A JAR OF CUM JUST LAYING AROUND HERE
>>560910382i played a game with a friend on EU and russians yelled at me when i suggest midboss after we killed 4
>>560910382>wipe enemy team>teammate says "mid mid mid" over voice>i go mid>i'm the only person who went mid>this nigger called mid and went to go do sinnersphantom 3 btw
>>560910514That's what I mean. Making the call to do mid doesn't matter if they just brush it off or don't show up.
>>560910281That would be cool, it doesn't freeze but slows down in a bubble that applies debbufs like slowing projectiles to a fixed speed and other things.
>>560904713LET'S PLAAAY
>>560910382I am almost addicted to melting objectives.If I can split push and take objectives I will.I take the first opportunity to win regardless of what's happening.
ivyfags deserve to be kissed on the cheek
>>560909867i jsut got oracle and my first match everyone bought coutners for me while feeding the haze so i had to tryhard my soul out to outfarm ricochet haze
mina should be starved for about 3-4 days and then set loose in a forest where i can hunt her like wild game. like wild game, i'll make leather out of her skin and a meal out of her meat.
>doorman only ults me, the humble and honest victor>this causes my team to lose many fights>i buy unstoppable and ultrarape him because he only built damageweak, very weak
>>560910897drifter get off the internet
*dies instantly*
>>560910979makes sense a late game carry can easily do 4k damage in 3 seconds
>>560910979Good. I'm happy the average game is 30 minutes now instead of an hour long
>>560910979all the buildings in this game are so weakwe need a dota style glyph
>>560910086If they run urn solo it's easy to slap them on the ass and deny.If they run urn with more than one guy it means there's less guys protecting lane and walkers and it's time to push the opposite side of map.Urn is just a distraction, at best one guy goes to see what's going on.
>>560910468Imagine fucking the soul urn while he complains about how you need to deliver him already
>>560910745Even when four of the enemy team are deathballed onto one walker, the other two will immediately appear to kill me if I try to splitpush a walker
HEY BEBOP IS FUN, why isnt his winrate that high? all his skills seem decent
>>560911426because even if he rapes in lane after midgame if he can't get any hooks he is literally useless and enemies will eventually build enough resist to ignore his pathetic bombs
>>560911524can he go GUNBUILD? his gun seems strong
>>560911426>bombs fall off a cliff after mid game unless he's gigafed>ult just leaves you super exposed>uppercut does nothingall he really has is a low cooldown hook with massive range
>>560910979Proof that Yoshi has zero fucking idea what to do when people complain about games dragging for 40+ minutes. Every objective is made out of paper mache and takes longer to clear a creep wave than it takes for a new one to arrive.
Deadlock in 2030 will just be a kudzu the size of half the map
never use a wander build this nigga makes the worst builds ever i tried his drifter build and i gotta say it was peepee pooopooshifart (still won tho)
Victor shouldn't be able to purge item debuffs only ability debuffs.
>>560910234No it isn't, tf2tranny.
>>560911906>get enhanced shrink ray for my victor in brool>just gets insta purgehe enjoyed it for a bit but lmao
>>560910894>bought coutners for meMultiple curses? Thats all it could be
>>560911095The average length of my last 16 games in Archon 1 is 37:39
>>560911868you shouldn't be using buildguides at all once you know how to play the games neways bro
>>560911868His first item on drifter is Long Range? Wtf am I missing with that?
>>560912118That its a meme build
>>560908646I had the exact opposite happen to me lmfao.I won my first 14 games in a row and climbed from arcanist to ritualist.
>>560911556no because none of his abilities scale with gun or help gun
>I'VE GOT'E->LIFTING!!!!
imagine playing brawl when victor exists
>>560910979Towers in this game is so odd, they get fucking owned by one creep wave, and carry can just went behind enemy lane and singlehandedly destroy all of them
playing dynamo is paineven if you land the most beautiful BH, you still need your mongoloid team to do something
>>560909116i've played exactly 34 matches so i'm still learning kind ofi was in Alch for 40 minutes before losing in such spectacular fashion that it dropped me to like Seeker 3-4>>560909267let's see what this dick can do
>>560912287you should be ulting the wraith tho
>>560912406you underestimate the risk taking wraiths who kamikaze themselves into fights with a huge soul lead like their drifter
>>560912026i use buildguides to try new things out + im a lazy nigger and use buildguides which fit my style and stick with it and adjust accordingly :3
>enemy team correctly identifies you as the highest Elo player and starts raping you with every single ult and disable in every teamfight
>ask why Mina die so often (2/13/4)>it's bad lane match up!>it's Sinclair and Gay Talon
>>560912596>he types from under his guardiansissy
>echo shard stone ivy is resurrecting itself again into standard/brool
>>560911918>tf2 out of nowheremindbroken
>>560912001everyone except the haze got cursesilver and dynamo with silent wavehaze herself is fucking annoying with silencer and inhibitor they had a paradox that played welleven with unstoppable, plated armor, metal skin and all that shit it wasn't winnable because MY team bought 0 counters and mo&krill had 15 deaths and ivy was doing a dogshit gun build without inhibitor/silenceralthought i guess it speaks volumes we almost won that match and i was doing 1v6 a few times and only died cus im retarded
>>560911198>deliver him already>because he's pregnant>with souls>teehee
>>560912684echo shard is cancer and will reduce the ability design space in the future unless heavily nerfed/removed
>>560912778no the issue specifically with echo shard IVY is fucking entangle/root. REMOVE THIS.
>go on losing streak because forced 50%>get pissed off and uninstall>get the urge to come back a week later>repeat a dozen timesI can't help myself
>>560912732>i play a braindead character that by just existing nerfed the enemy damage output by %50 and their soul total by 40kpoor guy
>delete guardians for being useless niggers>move walkers ahead>when defeated they WALK towards t2 like a two stage boss and change attack patternshire me
>>560912778I buy echo on almost everyone so maybe it will be nerfed, but i hope not.
>>560912817echo shard permastun venator/abrams is cancer as fuck
>>560912861another one mindbroke by the BFC
>>560912817Getting buttstomped and nuked for half your health only for Ivy to go another round while you're stunned actually sucks.
Soul urn value should be tripled but have a 33% chance to violently explode when captured, awarding no souls and killing everyone in an aoe
>>560912371ah, 34 games is nothing. for games like this your probably need 300-600 HOURS played before you start breaking through
>help venator getting multiple kills during lane>:)>melee build>:(
anyone see that one FAG on youtube talking about his 2 months journey to eternus like he wasnt on a smurf?
>>560913103i don't expect to get very far, at least not right nowand honestly i'm loving these absolute slugfest matches
i just won my first "comeback" game where we were down 40k souls because the retarded enemy wraith died and we could just end the game
>try to make shorter games>all objectives die to a gust of wind>don't lower the cost of items
>>560913162No you should give us a link so we all give him views and I might even subscribe
>>560913236bro your item timings? 10 minutes is 10k or 15k. you buying just 1600 items and one 3600?! dont tell me youre rushing boundless spirit
>>560913236leads to what you see in nightshift where even with turbo autist farming techniques they end with most their items at t3
>>560913353Yeah, I am.
>>560912873>delete guardians for being useless niggersas if walkers aren't equally useless
>walkers>doesn't walk
>>560913810they used to be lane minions in neon prime
I finally upgraded Monster Rounds.
>Guess we're gonna see what happens.>Laser's running hot! >GROUND POUND>Slice and Dice! >Ah, I can't let the turrets have all the fun! >Uh, don't worry. You'll turn back. >Defeat me if you can. >'S gonna blow! >Bang. >Find the- I love this tric- Dealing. Cards out! >I paid the price, now die!>I’ll deal with the hooligan.
>>560914126I AM REBORN
>>560914126>WE GOTTEM MO
>guardians>doesn’t guard
>>560914126WE HAVE YOU NOW
would it be possible to make a mod that allows me to practice counterspell or does such a mod already exist?
>>560914312I play the game to get my practice. i know, i know, it's insane. but it works.
>>560914312There is a mod that lets you do it it's called street brawl (if you are lucky to get it as a roll, it's pretty common in my house experience)10 minutes of nonstop AOE spam is good practice methinks
>>560914126>*whistling*
>>560912684Echo Shard is great and should be a tier 3 instead.
>>560912118the logic is>wow, I'm getting outpoked by people who don't have any reason to enter the range where my bullets can hit them, I should extend my rangeinstead of just putting 2 points into mark and pushing the wave till they overcomit or you become tanky enough to dive their tower
>>560914312wdym a mod? have you tried sandbox?
Infinite scaling abilities are gay unless the scaling is so niche it doesn't matter.>get fed stacks early, snowball into big time damage>struggle early, ability sucks ass cause you can't build stacks so it does no damage late game and makes it even harder to get some stacksIf rewards scaled based on enemy souls or level or game length or anything it'd help quite a lot but I'd rather this shit be a hyper niche cute little bonus and not the difference between chunking most of a health bar and tickling someone.
>yer have something on yer mate>run awayHow would you respond
Echo shard wall is really the only way to make my wife competitive with all these cancer S tiers.
>>560914671
>>560914312>sandbox>private match vs bots
I THINK THE PATRONS SUCK
>>560914726They really need to get rid of this cancer.
>>560904080damn it... why am i the one who has to save the planet every damn time? can't someone else advise the hero this time? i'm to old and scary looking for this now.
>>560914375>just do 10 counterspells in a 30 minute game instead of 10 counterspells per minute in a training mod browasting your time
>>560914875mmmm... nyo!
>be oracle 2>play 2 matches with my Archon 6 friend >first one lanes me against an Eternus 5 duo'd with an Ascendant 2 somehow in an Oracle lobby>it ends in 21 minutes>second match puts us in an Emmisary lobby where 4 of the 6 enemy team members have less than 20 games played and all of them have eternus level schmovement >it ends in 17 minutesNope.I'm done.This trash is uninstalled until they fix the travesty they call this "matchmaking".
>>560914851>Talk like he is good person>Use dark cultist magic
Counterspell should just fuse into your normal parry instead of only being able to do it once every minute
>>560914851that really is him
They should add a active item that lets you lube up the floor so people slide on it
Counterspell shouldn't work on ults or not exist>but ults are too strongget fucked shouldn't have stood under lash idiot
>>560914709how do you play graves from behind?it's impossible to do anything with a retard team, she can't "carry"
I'm still mad about an ally Doorman ulting our pickoff target who was about to die, preventing us from killing him, for long enough for the enemy team to show up, rescue him, and kill us. Aren't Doormans supposed to troll the *enemy* team?
>>560915294The goyim have gone insane.
>>560915306seething lashtard
>>560915360>ally Doorman ulting our pickoff target who was about to die, preventing us from killing him, for long enough for the enemy team to show upMany such cases
>>560915435I actually don't play Lash it just feels a bit too easy and to job on his moment.
>AWOOO->WE HAVE YOU NOW
>>560915306Leaking pocket clitty would have zero counter.
>Phantom V>Decide to play a match just to have some fun with Sinclair>Ascendant VI sweatlord lobbythe match wasn't even bad, shit is just stressfull
>>560915540he deserves it the flying fuck
>>560915581>pocket clittyeither it's a gash or a dick
>>560915319graves is unironically the worst character in the game right now. compounded by the fact that most graves players are extremely low skill people who can't even aim in a shooter game
>>560915581The humble divine barrier.
>>560915708>walks up to your walker>places ult>dies >ends 3-13
>>560915580>slowing hex noise>ENJOY YOUR STAY.
>attach bomb to billy>he instantly parries like I'm fishing with spirit strike/snatch at 1 minute>chasing a pocket>behind him but glance at the minimap and get distracted, don't bomb>see him dispel magic even though I haven't slapped anything on him yeti'm beginning to notice some people do things on sheer reflex
I fuck doors.
>>560915795i had a doornigger target me with hotel with knockdown beforehand but he didn't realize i had the power of of the warp stone
>Push walker as Graves>Place ult>Have to heavy melee it because your gun does no damage even though the walkers are made of paper mache >Enemy team zips in and kills you+destroys your ult>Push base guardian as Graves>Place ult>Have to heavy melee it because your gun does no damage even though the base guardians are made of paper mache >Enemy team zips in and kills you+destroys your ult
I have noticed something funny, and it's that you never see people who are actually carrying the game whine about people "kill stealing" from them, it's always the 2/12 feeder shitters that are being carried who whine about how somebody stole their kill. What causes this behavior?
>>560913252i actually dont remember it just came up the second i started looking up deadlock and i think it had a lot of views
>win game>had to lock the fuck in and shot call and make several game winning plays in team fights>lose game>it's just like two retards on the team feeding immensely hard in lane and then not listening to anything in mid game so we just lose in late game cause we're down two playerswe could be so close to just fixing matchmaking by just not allowing those two retards into a game. why can't we have that? it's not even like it's hard to guess, oracle player in an ascendant match, ascendant 1 in an eternus match etc.
These guides always tell you to take the enemy's sinners and farm as if the entire team won's spawn on top of you the moment you do
>>560916440it's really eye opening to check the builder's stat page out of game to see what rank they are. like yeah you will get away with gun rem in archon.
Any thoughts on Radiant Regen vs Spirit Lifesteal/Leech on Shiv?
>>560916018>meanwhile sinclair shows up at 12m to a walker and removes 50% of its hp in 2 seconds
>>560916574Based
>>560915053First it's once every 20s (15s on transcendant) secondly the item is so broken it needs to be made into a T4. Turn Rebuttal into a T2 and make it upgrade into T4 Counterspell with all of the benefits of Rebuttal.
>>560916574If Graves players had the skill to play anyone other than her they would
>>560916098feeding is completely optional, there is nothing stopping people from playing safe and buying regen. people who choose to feed do so because they have a big ego
>>560916440In low rank I get away with it all the time.
>>560916807I get away with it all the time in high rank, that guy just needs to git gud
>>560916709>feeding is completely optional, there is nothing stopping people from playing safe and buying regen.Nah I'll just keep wandering off into enemy jungle by myself for God knows what and get killed in a 1v4 for the 15th time this game
i play rem carry me pls :3
>Silver does literally anything>I'LL TAKE YOU TO YOUR ROOMthank you based doorchard
>>560916807It's a matter of luck
>kelvin ruins entire teamfight by ulting himself in with the low enemies so we can't attack them and eventually dies to themhonestly one of the worst if the not the worst teammate to have in pisslow. second only to graves/mcginnis that feed their lane an extra 5k souls by 10 minutes by spawning shit
>>560917060when they gonna let lady geist ult her team
is bebop beam build not strong?
>>560916343The difference between winning and losing is having teammates who actually try to go for objectives
>>560915967Slowing hex into 4 upgraded is superior in every way to knockdown. Especially so on lower stam characters. I almost hardly ever target Celeste, GT, or other 4 buckets because even missing a stam and slow they can make it out well. But a three bucket in the middle of a fight and taken down to one or no stam with slowing hex? 13 seconds later they're back in the baroness if they aren't dead. It's so powerful that eventually you activate doormans hidden passive of having a global taunt. People would rather try to kill you for being such an annoying faggot than focus on protecting walkers, or going to mid when they have teammates dead to contest.It's amazing really.
>wow oracle will surely get better>
>>560916916rem players aren't cute
>>560916916>>560917408REM players are trans IRL
>>560917478there is no dialogue saying rem isn't trans, so she/he/it probably is
>Tracklock.gg guides are always terrible, almost as basic as default builds>always at the topIt's one thing to say popular builds are shit, but even shit builds are often at least giving the illusion of a person giving guidance. Who would even think to use an automatically generated build? These tracklock guides are the equivalent of the AI search summary taken at face value instead of reading any further. Answered my own question nigger
>>560907860I want him in the game.
playing victor is probably the best drain tank experience I've had in any game so far. I'm glad I picked him up
How do you decide between bullet resilience, plated armor, and metal skin?
>>560917746I don't decide, metal skin is the best one
>>560917478Sex with that rem
>>560917746what >>560917821saidhe's right
>>560917746vibes
>>560915795I only hotelmaxxx now on this guy.If they have a glorpstone I buy curse and enjoy my guaranteed CD reset. Am I hindering my teammates by building for hotelmaxxxing? Yes.But I am having fun and that is all I care about. Even more when I get reactions from the enemy team.
what's the dlg approved graves build DON'T say "pick another hero"
>enemy doesn't deny my souls>i don't deny theirs backIn initiate, it is understood that whoever denies the souls loses the moral victory
>>560918125pick another hero
>>560918125Stop being a pedo and pick another character
>>560918125Spirit graves and echo shard your wall
>>560918146>>560918179no>>560918181NO!
>>560917746I never buy any of that shit not going to lie. I just get warpstone and try to position myself better. In theory bullet resilience for tanky sustain heroes, metal skin for anyone else, plated only against a few select heroes IF they're taking over the lobby otherwise.
>>560917746I buy disarming hex instead because gun resist never feels like it does anything once M1 carries are online.
>>560918125ring of repick
>>560904080why is this website not in the OP?https://www.deadlockcalc.com/
>>560917746Metal skin. But that only works against haze. Infernus and Wraith will just rape you with their spirit damage.
>>560918125heroic aura is the meme itemyou can make the zombos zoom
>>560918125Maybe the worst character in the game currently pick another hero.
>>560917746Bullet Resilience because i need those buttons to set up my fat charges
pull back
>>560918125I swear by degenerate autoaim child
>>560918747PULL.BACK.
The gun carries decide everything
Silver is so useless in-gameShe's only good for shipping now
IM GOIN IN
>>560918930For me It's Silver x Ethan Winters
>>560918832Holy plaphog.
>>560918312Because statlocker already has a build maker on their site
>>560916702Graves takes more skill than sinclair, though.
Heading to blue
Celeste and Mina buffs when? These characters are literally unplayable unless you are a pro
>>560918930For me, it's SilverxHolliday. Two useless trainwrecks that are stuck with each other
>>560919117She's not bad she's just the win lane throw game character
>>560919175Way better, Silver and Celeste is a shitty reddit ship.
>miss celeste ult>refresh>miss 2nd celeste ult
thoughts on building silencer on victor late game? his gun does decent damage so the investment is worth it and silence counters every character
>>560919175I an finally see it, not only it's lore-canon, but also gameplay-Canon.Deadlock is so deep...>>560919227Umm hello, based department?
>>560919265no get cheat death
Just hit people they can't stop you.
deadlock awakened my dormant chubby chasing tendencies.
Lets see what this case can do.
I don't care what tier he is, Drifter is such a fucking faggot character
>>560919817source?
>>560917639A compilation of the most popular items for each character sounds like a good idea if you don't know anything about MOBA itemization.
I love playing McGinnis!I want to kiss her on the mouth!
>>560919837www.archiveofourown.org
>>560919696every time I go melee ivy some fuck buys rebuttal and holds onto it for their dear life
>>560917639you gotta look for eternus streamers who one trick a character and use their build
>>560907186>>560907258Doorman is legit the only character I think can have fun even when you're losing because of how you can still fuck with people regardless of match standing desu
>>560919917who? oh yeah that character exists I forgot
>>560918125 silence wave, knockdown, curse, and divine barrier + rest green items
>>560920034Spectral barrage!
>>560919971Go for the first swing, feint or 'miss'. Their brain will turn on, they remember parry exists.Set the next one up clean. Some people even stop moving and just get ready to parry.Swing hard, stone form last milisecond. They will parry, they can't escape, smack them with stone form and can get 1 or 2 free hits in afterwards.They're frazled, brain destroyed. Complete morale victory.
>>560920082I love using that on walled off enemiesAnother thing I like to do is put down a few sentries on my way back from a push when the team alive on the enemy team presumably comes in from the sideWhen our team mauls them badly enough and they try to run back down the laneGuess what they find?Embarrassing death at the hands of my sentries.
>>560920082*walks under the minimum range and punches you to death while you shoot at nothing*you tried
>>560919796Let's see what that bussy can do
>>560920179>walks backwards at normal speed while u move like a snailheh, nothin personal
>>560920239*teleports behind you* it wasn't personel, my child
>>560920082*leaves*
>>560920179>Solo ulting>Ulting without allies nearby>Not having communication with your team>Not paying attention to the 3 sentries I have near meLet me guess: seeker?
>>560914851True but spirit warden is a faggot too
>>560919917It's shameful but I would love to make-out with her. Something about an evil/cold muscle genius is so appealing to me especially when she has tits and freckles. Maybe this is how women feel about evil characters. BTW you just know she has some top tier pits under those work clothes.
>>560917342While true, vortex web is such a fucking great feeling item on him that i can't stop at just Hex
>>560920272>blah blah blah theorycraftno it isn't seeker
>>560920582>Standard tactics is theorycraftOkay lmao stay hardstuck
>>560920636>YEAH BUT WHAT IF>WHY DIDN'T>YEAH BUT WHAT IFI don't care shut up
>>560919837The gay community
is shiv just impossible to nerf? why does he get more fun every time they try?
>>560920665retard
>>560920665>The sky is blue>Umm umm theorycraft umm akshually I don't careOkay sweetie
Is Ivy broken this patch?Why am i listening to some top tier player saying Ivy is a top tier ban?
>>560920694We just cant lose Shivgawds
>>560920743>mcginnis ult sucks>YEAH BUT WHAT IFI don't care and also I'm right
>>560918965>Ping im going in>My team doesnt follow up>They leave even though theyre full health
>>560920802>I don't understand, I'm using the saw as a hammer and it sucks!>What do you mean I'm supposed to use it differently?>That's just theorycraft shut the fuck up
>>560920893"mcginnis ult is good actually and let me tell you why, you just have to have communication with the team" -you 2026stay wrong
>>560920582you should watch nightshift and see how games are won based on draft such as good ginnis ults etc. its very strong and the only people who think it isnt strong typically dont understand the character now has great spirit focus better than ever before. Even if you have spirit resistance her ult can melt you
>>560917746Metal Skin is the best on non-tanky characters, you want it to be able to survive a situation and reposition. Its also by far the best Haze counter, and you could get it if you plan on dueling a M1 character often. Plated Armor is the best for tanky characters if the enemy has a lot of on-hit proc effects. Bullet resilience is only really relevant if the enemy team has 3 or more characters who mostly deal physical damage, which almost never happens nowdays. All three can be useful on any character, but generally these are the best use-cases.
how do i get big damage on kelvin
TIME TO PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS
>>560920932It slimes if you know how to use itIt also resets every 90 seconds once you've got the items neededWall+ maybe 2 allies on the lane+ sentry guard and you're taking down most of the push
>pick mina the ha>her damage is laughablemakes sense
>>560920932>>560921054>they just don't understand the character>you have to know how to use itnoticing a trend here
>>560920919What ults do you consider are good without communication with your team?
>>560921225communication is for faggots (you)
>>560919917she's so close to being hot, just a bit too butch. shame because i liked the previous model.
>>560919175>>560919291Stupid sexy werewolf
what is the counter to haze ult build>metal skinher ult lasts 16 seconds>curseunstoppable lasts 7 seconds>bullet resilience, plated armor?
>>560921225Haze, Seven, Pocket, Abrams, Apollo, Bebop, Billy, Calico, Celeste, Doorman, Drifter, Graves, Grey Talon, Infernus, Lady Geist, Lash, Mirage, Paige, Rem, Shiv, Sinclair, Silver, Venator, Victor, Vindicta, Viscous, Warden, Wraith and Yamato. Maybe Vyper.The rest have ults that vary in usefulness without communication from still very good to likely to actively grief your team without comms(Kelvin).
Everyone says Graves is bad but she seems almost unkillable sometimes
>>560921515metal skin and the shift key
>>560921515if you can't kill her during the metal skin duration, or at the very least walk out. items might be the least of your concern buddy.
>>560921543I think her biggest problem as a character is that she's too horrible in lane. She actually might as well be a creep in the laning phase. And contrary to Ivy, another horrible laner, she can't farm the jungle extremely fast to make up for it. She's just akwardly weak in the early to mid game, and not as strong as other carries in the late game to make up for it
>>560921515Plated, Curse, trying not to clump up so much that she hits everyone.
>have to win 2 games to go up in rank>1 loss makes it go down
>>560918125Default Graves Build by Valve
Cookie so tight it crushes cocks
>>560921603I just had a hard time against Graves in lane
>>560921678big black ones
>>560921592>if you can't kill her during the metal skin durationshe gets bullet evasion>or at the very least walk outwith ricochet even if a teammate is standing in it you can still get hit>or at the very least walk outwhile defending our stage 2 patron?
>>560921687How? Just shoot her. She has like 2hp and her gun literally cannot fire unless you're close to her.
>>560921758What if you're a character who also has to be close range?
>>560921757>she gets bullet evasionyou're supposed to fist her genius
I don't want to play until I finish my mod. I don't want to play without it, but idk if I have the technical skill to actually get it up and running. I had to go on discord and DM people to ask for help.
Graves is the only character in the game where it feels like your kit is working against you.Also she should have 3 base stamina
>>560921824i'm not playing a melee character
>>560921854you're not playing any character at all apparently if shooting her or meleeing her for a full 5 seconds is not an option. sounds like a you problem.
>face graves like 7 times in a row>base always gets pushed to shitWeak or not she’s fucking annoying in pisslow where everyone wants to brool in jungle
>>560921757Your spirit damage?
>>560921806Like who? Drifter can just outtrade her with 1 and basic attacks. She autoloses lane against Bebop because you just place a bomb on her every time she tries getting close to the trooper wave. The important thing is to remember that she's made of sugar paper, don't let her follow you with her gun without retaliating.
>Laning as Viscous>Take cube level 1 >Take goo ball next, one billion seconds of CD>Spam "fall back" and "ability is on cooldown" to my celeste>She insists on diving the trooper wave to attempt to kill an infernus who is below half hp>Tell her on mic that i cannot fucking do anything, there's a trooper wave and my CDs are down>She dies>"GG viscous is trolling">Abandons lane, tower falls in 4 minutes, we snowball into a lossPhantom lobby btw
>>560922152EU?
>>560921968literally my house
>>560922176More like PU
>>560922183Silver...
>>560922268what the fuck is the point of cleaning if no one but me is ever here anyway
>>560922176NA
You can have your own Silver if you go to your local bar during friday night
>>560922372fake news
>>560922306we all smell you when you go out in public
>>560922372the girls at the bar dont turn into giant wolves (i don't think)
>>560922479woah bro I still have a job, let's not cope too hard now
>>560922176"GG X is trolling" into having a melty and giving up on the game is a uniquely American phenomenon, other regions melt down differently.
>>560922658what do the melties of the world look like im curious
I’m addicted to bleed stacking on shiv
>Casting Ethereal Shift cancels any abilities currently being channeled (with the exception of Victor's Aura of Suffering).what the fuck
>>560922898he was too waek
i think when they update the trooper models to have mega creep models like in dota people will be a lot more demoralized in pubs and there will be less comebacks even though nothing but the visuals changed
i had a sinclair on my team do the most damage in BRAWL, and they didnt even have good ults. what was he doing? when i play him i do negative dmg
>>560923391His 1 does a shitload of damage, and he can fire two guns at once with his clone bro.
walkers have way too little damage
walkers should instakill you if they stomp on you desu
>>560923484i mean hp sorry feels like its so easy to backdoor them
>>560920093You can also use fleetfoot or locket to cancel the melee. Tho, melee cancel > stone form > melee rapes in lane.
>walkers>dont walk>guardians>can be dived 1 minute into the game
>cart that nigger Victor into spawn>he kills the Holiday that was recovering health and buying some gear and still almost escapes despite me having focus lens, knockdown, hotel and another cart because he misclickedJesus CHRIST this fucking character dude
>patron>doesn't have a subscription option to see nudes
>>560923878enough of the amber handshow me the amber cock
>>560923865Victor's are the most putrid bottom of the barrel scum of this game>lane with one>he'll never help you he'll be somewhere else breaking boxes jungling>go against one>just walks forward through 90 counter items and insta kills everyone if you dont have someone babysitting his farm locationsunironically they should remove him im not even kidding remove him from the game and ignore the outrage
>>560923940archmommy more like analmommy
>>560924062>unironically they should remove himBut Anon! Think of all the boosted animals.
>>560923940you asked for ithttps://files.catbox.moe/3vcvor.png
>>560921447I hope when they update Holliday's model they make her look older because she looks way too young for a double divorcee
>start of game>dash in>heavy melee pump fake 180This is my ritual every game. Their reaction tells me everything I need to know,
>>560924238ever put a flashlight in your mouth
>>560924259Wait that's an actual line? I legit thought Holiday was a pretty young kid, like 19 20
>>560923865>only my character should have annoying 1 shot combos
>>560922898he sneeds it
>>560924348No, wouldn't make sense for her to be that young and be a sheriff anywayBut yeah she's 30s minimum, probably 40s or 50s if we're being honest with ourselvesI have a thing for older women though(Geist's diva inclination puts me off her) so if Holliday looked older and wasn't torture to play I'd probably become obsessedUnfortunately her current placeholder of a model looks like a teenage boy
>>560924312kek
>>560923865lmao
>>560924259>>560924348>>560924493She's from the midwestIt wouldn't be out of the question for her to have married someone as soon as she turned 18, get divorced, have a bout of alcoholism and become sheriff by 30 something in a bumfuck nowheresville town
>>560921542All of them get mollywopped after their ult if the enemy team communicated>Paige>Rem>Venator>Victor>ViscousPaige and Rem are literally built for people to ult in conjunction with themVenator, Viscous and Victor can ult and maybe even get one guy, but they get raped the moment their ult ends, or even during their ult for Viscous and Venator.
>>560924903Realistically sure, but I'm not sure how cool valve would be with her getting married at 18 when they've otherwise tried to avoid chudly things.Every character in the game calls the 18 year old characters "children" despite that being a fairly modern mindset towards young adults.
why SHOULDNT i play seven only?
>>560924903>married someone as soon as she turned 18, get divorced, have a bout of alcoholism and become sheriff by 30 something in a bumfuck nowheresville townliterally the 2026 midwest experience anyway
>Your Drifter doesn't poke in lane, doesn't even farm mobs beyond last hit - lane's pushed 24/7>Full retreats when he gets below 80%>Doesn't roam or gank>Uses ult to run awayCultist 2 btw, but i'm guessing every rank below Archon is just scrambled to shit?
>>560925298Because you need 4 heroes in your roster and I'd rather not get paired with someone who got cucked out of their one trick and is about to go 0/13/4
If I stop playing do I automatically derank after a point? Pls respond.
>>560921950i fucking wishmy 1 does at most 300 dmg
>>560925298Because knock-down and Ivy exist
>>560906417I hate laning against him makes me wish to do pic related to him
>>560925179>how cool valve would be with her getting married at 18It's not unheard of. Her marrying someone who's like 50 at 18 would raise some eyebrows but we all know someone who married their high school sweetheart or someone who was like 25
To every dogshit instalock, 1 trick Mina player in the sub-Eternus lobbiesSTOPYou are not themYou are not some MLG pro after watching some streamer teach you about high mobility and jump launchesStop AFK farming for 30 minutes and blaming the team when your ult didn't kill the entire enemy team
>>560925386Drifters are just like thisThey either dive way too aggressively and get 10 deaths 10 minutes inOr they play way too cautiously and hide in the jungle trying to get ganks until like 30 minutes in when the match is almost over they THEN do all their feeding
finally hit emissary rank from all the way of seeker when i started
>>560925894Same but from initiate, only took me 6 months and 500 hours
>>560925667>It's not unheard ofThe west was full of women hitching at 16 to 18 to get in easy for a homesteadHell 18 would be considered bordering public inquiry and spinster accusations
>>560926131Yeah because they didn't have bank accounts or any independence.I'm talking about now, and I'm assuming Valve is going for the social feel of now rather than the 40s when the game is set
But, anon, I am HIM.
>they stealth nerfed Silver's boot kickOkay, this is actually geettign fucking ridiculous. The devs are blatantly hating on the character and her players for no fucking reason.
>>560926564
>drifter asks for a lane swap after everyone is already in lane and the creeps are fighting>my lane partner gives it to him>they swap in the middle of the first wave, both missing most of the creeps and now perpetually behind for the entire laning phase>drifter proceeds to go 0-13 for the gameholyholy fuckyou get some gorilla nigger retards in solo queue, i think that was my first and last solo queue game since I started playing again
Why can he fly? Vindicta is a ghost but Talon is just a guy, who can levitate somehow
>>560926660HE'S CRACKED
I feel I've officially carried a friend beyond his competence point and it has become incredibly frustrating for me.>Itemizes like utter shit, legit clown-tier pickups that make no logical sense and he refuses to accept me telling him what to buy because he's doing shit like chasing 10 extra damage on his ult>Forgets to push his abilities half the time>Usually his KD is some shit like 0-7 by 10 mins>Constantly tries to lane with me even though it makes things incredibly frustrating where he's basically a bot pushing the wave into the enemy without pressuring them at allI could forgive this when he was Initiate so the match average was extremely low, but now he's Archon and the game expects all 6 players to be contributing. What the fuck do I even do here?
>>560925854get fucked *presses 2*
Uhhhhhhhhhhh how do I counter Pocket's ult?
>>560926721a shield at best,
>>560926721divine barrier or don't be near him
brawl doesnt have matchmaking right? its just chaos? because its putting me against GODS
vindicta shouldn't be able to quickscope
>>560926854bro just let her have something, she gets mogged by the old grandma archer and goth vampire already
lol hardscoping shitters in /dlg/ cant even quickscope
>>560926903any scaling ult should be removed I do agree, gay talon having a curse he can detonate at will is insane
>>560925854>To every...in sub-Eternus lobbiesso you?
>>560925854I'll keep coinflipping as Mina
>>560925854I play Mina because I am a gooner though
>>560926660Something something magic native american powers.
how do you cope with the fact the game pairs you with bots and gives you sweaters as opponents
>>560926564What did they do?
>>560918930For me, it's Silver/Me
>>560927120jack off
>>560926564What was the change exactly?Its a shame what they're doing to my girl... they FEAR her potential... she will be shiv 2.0 any second now lads
>>560926564>>560927312samefag avatarfaggot
>>560927120I pick Ivy
>>560927130>>560927312They significantly reduced the self-launch distance after it hits, effectively removing the only ability-based advanced movement tech she ever had. No more quit escapes with 2, no more self-launching off creeps to quickly rotate and so on
Feeding Silver chocolate
why are some abilities allowed to proc melee items without the parry risk
FACE ME AND DIE, CHUD
>>560927398That is retarded. Why is she neutered to 2 stamina in the first place if they do this shit?Celeste having 4 is perfectly fine btw for some reason.
>>560927485>When my claw lands in 20 seconds, you're so fucked!
>>560927120its actually perfect sweater weather right now, thanks icefrog!
>>560921113just got out of a game where mina does 1/3rd my lifebar in literally under a second 6 minutes into the game
>>560927398Music to my ears
>>560927521In like 17 seconds, it'll all be over...
>>560927465NOOOOO DON'T DO THAT IT'S POISONOUS TO CANINESPUT THE CHOCOLATE AWAY NOOOOOOO
>>560927485Warden is a chud though
>>560927789he got ixian friends!
>>560927485Playing him yesterday for the first time and was surprised by how low the flask cooldown was and how strong his gun is
>>560926564>>560927398That's it, I'm fucking done with this piece of shit game. They keep systematically nerfing every character I play for no fucking reason. KYS, Yoshi
>>560927996>Play OP and IMBA characters>They get balanced>WTFConsider playing characters that aren't top tier from your favorite streamer
>>560927485>DO YOU HAVE A LOICENSE FOR THAT KNOIFE SHIV? DIE *guns Shiv down before turning to salute Mirage* oh hello mayor
>>560927996The life of a meta slave.
>>560928136Consider seppuku, tranny
Lets all reply to the samefagging shitposter, shall we?
>no filipino rapper characterPinoybros ... we are lower on the totem pole than trannies.
>>560927398>significantlyit's like 1m less if even that much
>>560928249Didn't it only launch you like 5m in the first place
>>560928247filipinx were invented in 2010 to create a larger market for snapbacks
>want holliday buffs...>know that this dev team will giga buff her into absurdity and now every meta cockroach will scurry away from whoever got rightfully nerfed like calico or wraith to her and i'll either never get her, be treated like a meta slave or it'll just be boring stomping everythingfucking thing sucks man
is paradox honest? i feel like learning her but i only want to play honest heroes
>>560928249>>560928339It's even less if you aim into the ground how you used to to launch straight up. Go try it yourself if you do t believe me
>>560928586probably the most honest hero in the game desu why do you think no one plays her?
>>560928573They're working on a Holliday rework
>>560926564>>560927398It's not enough that Silver's the only hero with a bugged buffer where an action often stops her from firing her gun for a full second.
>>560927996Based, another furtroon down
>>560928586hard to think of a hero that might be more honest
why do silver players complain fucking non stop? anyone gets nerfed they'll whine yeah but then they'll go whatever silver players just dont shut the fuck up WE GET IT YOU GOT NERFED holy shit
>>560928756I don't play silver, you retarded nigertranny
>>560928860how'd you know that anon was from Niger?
>>560928793They don't, that's just your paranoid delusions talkingNow look at this werewolf (nerfed (i still love her))
I have a functional memory and remember back before the patch where they nerfed Silver out of the blue that people didn't really talk about her that much anymore.She was talked about lots at first, then during tournament shitposting hours but then it died down and became about as frequent as the other new heroes.Then Yoshi decided to giganerf her yet again and then it REALLY started to increase in frequency.
>>560928586As a mostly paradox player I'll tell you upfront that you are 100% team dependant. Win lane and you are a shitty bebop for the rest of the game, win lane and you might have kill potential on some squishies.
>graves >gets unjustly nerfed because people didnt even know you could shoot the skulls>a little rabble nothing much>silver >boot kick distance le shadow nerf>NYOOOOOO I MUST SPAM THE THREAD NOOOOO MY FURRY WIFE NOOO
>>560929131alot of characters are just bebop like Holliday feels like another Bebop/Shittier Dynamo
>anon reports an undocumented nerf>"WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING!"KYS, troon
>>560929131>Lose lane and you are a shitty bebop for the rest of the game,win lane and you might have kill potential on some squishies.Meant to say when lose lane.
>You're gonna build Silver a ramp
FUCKKKKKK MY PRIVILEGED TOP 99% WINRATE E6 FACEROLL DLNS AUTOWIN HERO GOT HER KIT TICKLED IT'S OVER MY GENDER EUPHORIA EVAPORATED YOSHI FIX MY WEREWOLF TGIRL WIFE NOWWWWWWWWWWW
>>560927963the damage on flask is abysmal
>>560929408if only Richie wasn't a manlet I could take him a bit more seriously in that season
>>560929408>give me one thousand sols
>>560929487The silver posting will continue until she is buffed!GIVE HER 3 STAMINA YOSHI!
up in da mid-boss
>>560929541Him getting whacked by fucking Janish of all people probably didn't help
>>560929495You don't use flask for damage, you use it for debuffs
>>560929549>Monkey paw's finger curls>Silver now has 3 stamina>Silver Boot kick and Mauling leap range nerfed by 43%
you are not gonna believe thisSilver is an ass muncher
The Silverposts will continue until nerfs are reverted and morale improves
>>560929549Based
>>560929665where you chillin for the ritual homie?
>>560929770Silverposts will just continue in generalWEREWOLFWIFEIt's honestly just that fucking simple, why make it more complex
>>560929768Fuckin slander if you ask me
I didn't hear a peep from anyone here complaining about Silver before the nerfs, the ONLY place where the shared delusion of her being super duper strong still persists is the only place it's ever been: In the minds of retarded wannabe pros.Reminder that Lystic swore up and down that Silver is busted, played her a ton in normal matches, then picked her in DNS, failed massively and stopped playing her and half-grumbled that she's not that good (heard that on his stream)
>>560929983I remember some time ago when people cried about drifter being shit due to his low range.
They nailed Silver visual design, what can I sayFucking hate facing against her burst in lane early game tho
>>560929983This was her performance at her 'peak' unnerfed self btw
>>560930078She's literally perfect
Hidden Kink or ArchedMother?
Sinners: stolenWave: shovedWalker: already goneTunnels: picked cleanCreeps: juiced the fuck outSteel beams: meltedLots of things: doneShuffleboard: great at
>>560923865>doorman nigger complaining about anything5000 lashes
>now what I'd love to see is a truce wipe the slate clean>the upplaying the downplaying, Nightshift put it all behind us>the state of Silver after her nerfs whatever happened there?
>>560930183holy KWABAROOO
>>560930562>IN THIS GENERAL, SILVER IS S+TIER BROKEN... END OF STORY!
>>560930183My flat stinky broke jobber werwife
>>560928247since WW2 didn't happen in deadlock then the philippines should still be under american occupation in deadlock
>>560930378no fucking way
BRAWL GAVE ME DEADLOCK PTSDi think i went like <40% WR... some of my opponents were so good, my whole team would chase, shoot and use all their skills on them but they're like flyign around and unkillable. a MIRAGE did this to us, even. this happened in like half my gamesi just lsot to an MVP paige, and then i had a paige the next round and they did less than 2k dmg. ????????????????...and then the exact same thing but viscous.anyway, fun game
>>560929541The problem is if you tried to hit him back a bunch of goombas torture you until you die
if you are shorter than Denizen you deserve to be farmed
>>560928649>>560928781>thief character >honest kitWhat is wrong with this dork?
>>560930991Paigebros.... Hollidaybros...
>>560930991>150 cmwtf bro
>>560930378FUCK YOU!!!!!!
>>560931140
>>560930378this piece of shit is so greedy i swear rem players are just hungry fucks appearing from no one to gobble up bags money buffs little piece of shit
>>560931271they wan't to make sure the enemy team has a nice 2k souls bonus, wouldn't be funny otherwise
>>560931140you cant be that short
>>560931140literally a walking onahole
>>560931140rape
>>560930991Porn of this guys raping when
>hide inside buff>geist falls for it and gets parried>she just swaps health and kills mecan they nerf this character already
mystic slow, is it worth grabbing on kelvin?
>>560931140hey...
>>560930991I keep hearing people say that these guys look out of place in deadlock but they look exactly like what a demonic entity coming out of a pentagram would look like to me. I do think midboss needs something else though
>>560929743there are other abilities with debuffs that also do damage you know
>>560931881>drains stamina and slows to setup for cageits a good ability faggot
Volvo is in vacation for April, no? Does that mean patch before the end of the month?
>>560931881it is a good ability, i'm just saying the low cd is balanced by having absolutely shit damage
>>560932052volvo will be making cars as far as I can tell
I'm ascendant and game keeps giving lower lobbies but they are all the same, enemy giga farms the hero creeps on my team and it's just over from the start. My lane was easy and won but paradox was out of it for 60% of the time just breaking boxes and I couldn't push the guardian alone so it was basically a tie at best. Since the patch 70% of my games have been like this.
>Settle down, we're not making a Concord here.
>drifter is supposed to hunt/punish isolated afk farmers>all current afk farmers like victor/wraith can just bully him away anywaybuff drifter and do it now
>>560932469>You're supposed to push Neon Prime
>played a lot in 2024 around the time shiv came out>had fun, did well enough to get spectators in most matches>put game on back burner for a few years, busy>come back for brool>fuck it, try a standard match>parries everywhere>teammates getting assmad over voice at any minor misplay anyone does>dood the [enemy] is using [streamer?]'s build they're gonna get [x] next (is wrong and they buy [y] instead)>everything going over my head as I'm just adjusting to new items and economy, let alone the 3 lane layout>continued ignorance and dismissiveness from teammates when I explain I just don't know the game anymore>lose 3 games in a row>multiple hate mail comments on steam profile>check what rating I got placed in for these kinds of matchesI swear it was actually Oracle II but a 4th loss put me down before I screencappedFrom my understanding this rating is hell, but also where people should definitely know better.I'm rusty but my main takeaways from these matches are: 1. everyone should know that contesting an urn when the entire enemy team is off map with rejuv is a bad idea and 2. never listen to anyone who speaks in League termsThis also might be the only game I've played now where people on Australian servers don't speak with Australian accents, and that's frightening.Still having fun though.
This is what the lead designer envisioned for an ability rework in GunZ: The DotA.Thank you Yoshi, I love it.
>>560933028If people used Paradox wall like this it'd be kino actually.
>>560932904>but also where people should definitely know betternope. people make abysmally stupid decisions up to the highest ranks
>>560931674your counterspell?
Is Pocket a popular pick or something? He's my only high prio and i keep getting the other heroes.
>>560914126>I>WANT>YOUR>SOUL
>>560933743yes he is the metatroon character (coincidentally a troon icon too)he's one of the few characters with enough burst that can secure a kill in eternus matches without letting the opponent trigger their autoparry cheatand since everyone in all ranks think they are eternus level, everyone picks him
>>560933028>GunZWhat is this literal who game that keeps getting posted here?Does some eceleb keep mentioning it or what?
>>560933905I'm Eternus Btw
>>560933743His ult is so fucking annoying
rent-free
>>560914126I got 'em!
>>560933743His maxxed ult is broken just for the anti-heal alone.
>>560919084>BLUE WALKER IS UNDER ATT- OUR BLUE WALKER HAS BEEN DESTROYED
We dont counterspell here. We dont divine barrier here. We dont disarming hex here. We dont slowing hex here. We dont silence wave here. We dont cursed relic here.
>>560934267i say this 5 seconds before diving into the enemy team on silver
>>560934295seekerGODS...
Reminder to tap fire for kill secures.
>>560934267>pay a 6400 tax so you don't get raped by Pocket's ultso fun!
>>560934354seeker? i only play street brawl
>>560934716initiateGODS...
>>560934267My friend unironically plays like this then screams his catchphrases of "I CAN'T DO SHIT" and "THIS IS SO BULLSHIT" whenever he gets oneshot by something (if a counter item isn't in his L-R top daily build he's not buying it)
i didn't realize silver has such a nice butt
>>560934908This is why my Geist build aimed at new players has counterspell as a core item.
>>560934950Hands off, Silver's mine
Everyone that jerks off to Silver is actually jerking off to SEVEN aka they are GAYHOMOFAGGOTS because she reuses all of his animations
>>560934908>am such a smart guy I bought metal skin>haze now has to wait for 3 seconds before raping you
>>560934267>>560935140No amount of debuffs that last 3-5 seconds will save you from the 22-2 Haze/Drifter/Wraith created by your feeding teammates
>>560932621>That game was made before the electric light
>>560935294>just run urn lmao the enemy won't intercept you
Let's see what this green can do.
>>560935445hmmmmm boy you're fat
>if you're running too fast drifter has a special animation where he's running on all foursI didn't know until I played him like a speed rapist demon.
>>560935445this is where it start
>THEY'RE JUMPING ME
wish the game's netcode wasn't so shit yet full of point and click items
>>560935906This is utterly ridiculous, when is Yoshi nerfing this overpowered champion?
>>560936030yeah wraith is too op
>>560935906I wish my teammates focused on the combo target while I'm playing MK...
>>560919917>tfw they removed her red eyes and welding maskAlso the way Yamato delivers some of her lines is great. We need more cute evil hardasses.
>>560934415Holy shit there's a ship on the map?????
https://youtu.be/oGhz2z4dvEMsleepy lil fuck got his own theme tune wtf
Maybe the anon that bans yamato has a point. Incredible how fucking annoying the faggots playing yamato are
>>560930991>flops his cock at you, dealing damageThis is rape culture
>>560936320>get his own spot in the hide out>gets his own theme>they added tunnels pretty much for himActual pedo furry dev pet
I just accepted some games were unwinnable, have fun while I alt-tab
>>560936479i hated him at first but i must admit the game needed a cute guyhe has pikachu energy
Damn, Cultist Sacrifice buff gives 15% ability range? Maybe I should buy it on Warden
>>560935445YOU WON'T KILL ME
are there other rapist heroes like drifter? i love invading enemy jungle and violating them 1v1
>>560935047why do people parrot this when it's not even true
>>560936968jews really hate silver
>>560936870calico because this nigger is loved by the devs
Someone said SilverAWOOOOOOOOOO
when are they banning boosting
>513 hoursI don't think that's boosting just plain stupidity
>had a really good game on dash infernus>checked the replay for some stuff>team flaming the guys i was laning against for dying a lotMakes me feel kinda bad ngl, even if we didn't kill them as much I farm fast as fuck
>>560936870Haze and Calico
When are bans actually gonna matter? I fucking tire of calico and victor
George Floyd hero when? Christian themed hero with a dose of fentanyl.
>>560937465>decide to pick up a few boxes every now and then>suddenly the two kill soul gap the enemy has is gone and we win lane with more soulsI really need to learn some box routes, I can tell whenever I lose lane the enemy has ult two or three waves before my lane even when they haven't even killed us.
>>560937632yeah at 2 minutes what I do is some basic bitch box run after shoving the wave whatever is closest to me and try to get back in time when the new wave arrives, it really adds up
Doorman has to be the most skilless hero in the game, even if you are completely braindead so long as you ult someone it's -1 in the fight. Seriously the highest skillfloor in the game by virtue of how retarded his ult is, No&skill has nothing on doorknob.
>>560937506isn't haze better played afk farming until she can 4 to win? my teammate hazes all do that
>>560936320Deadlock's protagonists, the Main Character
>>560938010almost her entire kit is based around ganking people
>>560927312>shiv 2.0A good character
They should buff Silver, she's really weak.
They should buff Victor
>>560927398I genuinely can't tell the difference
>>560936870Calico, Haze, Mo & Krill and Vindicta
nerf Mirage, and also buff him at the same time
>>560938010She CAN do that but she should be roaming arounf looking for picks as the other carry eats all the campsEverytime I play Victor and have a Haze teammate if she ends up farming my camps instead of roaming we lose.
>>560938923>play Victor>we loseskill issue
They should buff Sinclair. Make it so he can option select between stealing the last used ability or the ultimate. Rubick 2.0.
they should give paradox more voice lines i like listening to her
>>560926660Brazilians can double jump, Indians can perform levitation and conjure spirit animals, just how life is
Do we know how cosmetics are going to work in this game? Would be cool if they make it like DOTA where every hero is modular.
>>560904434based and hetero
>>560939215I think some anon was doing some datamining and that seemed to be the case, but I am not 100% sure
C&C
>>560935906>silverplayers have a brain dead 180 degree attack and still whiff 90% of themholy kek, explains a lot.
>>560939508>my wolf is so underpowered and stacks are impossible to get kek
>>560939146she's missing quite a few new heroes at least
>silver on enemy team>get literal free winThanks yoshi
>>560939040Anon sometimes you gotta hit the 43% chance.
Silver would be 1000x more fun to play if her ulti wasn't some transformation bullshit
>>560939695If her ult was good she would be fun
despite being an alt chick Graves will be a virgin on her wedding dayThis is what feminism has taken from us
>>560939853I think the same about Mirage, so I just dont play him
>>560939215grimI'll miss this current time where heroes have visual coherency
>>560939950Same, but I want to play Mirage because I think his stack shit is fun but he's just so bad.Same with Silver.
>>560937945Would you tell this to every fucking doorman on my team who always ults the target while 3 of us are trying to kill them?Bonus points if they are ulting a target with i-frame abilities that needed time to come off cd
>>560936616>the game needed a cute guyTHAT WAS MEANT TO BE VISCOUS
>>560940072you WILL have rainbow visual vomit 90000 particles on every hero and you WILL like it
>know Rem is rotating to our jungle and stealing all our sinners>can't actually kill him without having multiple people coordinate with me (impossible)Hate how safe this little guy is despite having a resource thief gimmick, they should at least add some reward for stopping the machine/jungle helpers so it doesn't just feel like I wasted my time.
>>560940252>goo>cuteHe's disgusting
>>560940165Same but all these characters (anything below 50% is a joke and only playable at the pro level)
>>560939215Leaks say it's Dota again.
>>560940338>all the sub 50% winrate characters are mostly viable in coordinated playBravo Yoshi!
>>560940262Are dota cosmetics really that bad?t. Never played dota
cute & cowboy
>>560940421Dota 2 has some of the ugliest cosmetics I have ever seen in gaming
>>560940330who wants to see a goo fist?
>>560940421No, he's talking about League. Look at the image he posted. Do you think that looks like rainbow visual vomit? It's a bear with a cowboy hat
>>560936968you might be blind and retarded
when does it stop being fun
>>560937945someone got mogged
>>560940603only the melee animations are the same
>>560940421Yes, 2 years from now you'll be getting killed by a Drifter with a 15 usd pink hat (mythical rarity) while your Abrams is wearing gigantic WoW shoulder pads he got from a lootbox.
>>560939502>>560939374apollo wants to wait after marriagegraves wants to have sex asapthis is canon
>>560940518hahahahathat was just the beginning
>>560940672When you've heard all of her lines so many times you wish characters were less talkative.
>>560940848this one knows
Every single time late game silver becomes a jobber -1 for the team, every single time.
>>560941139>character with a strong early/mid game falls off latesay it aint so
Every single time late game apollo becomes a jobber -1 for the team, every single time.
>>560941223>strong early/mid gameExcept she's not, she's average at best right now. And there's no such thing as early or mid game anymore, every single match goes to late game.
>>560940421They used to be good, then they let the community vote for new sets so of course the game got flooded with chink shit
>Except she's not>And there's no such thing as early or mid game anymoreare these real people?
>>560941230>starts game raping everyone>becomes an undying mosquito poking at your backline as you kill their teamidgi
>>560941403Both of those are true though, early and mid game are super short and the winning team speedruns into late game pretty fast now
>>560941486>speedruns into late gamethat's not how it works
what's the point of an early/mid game hero if the late game is all that matters? the end of the game is where you win or lose
>>560941464>apollo kills me a couple times>buy spirit res>watch as he uses every cooldown he has running away from meheh, betta luck next time kid
>>560941547That's exactly how it works with everyone powerfarming ultra fast now.>>560941230As for this, at least his ult is useful.
>>560941571if you win mid game there is no late game
>>560941646you cannot speedrun into late gameif you speedrun and win you just win in mid game
>>560941302she does>games going late means there's no early game or mid gameyou don't understand power spikes
>>560941571Because if you get curbstomped there's no late game for you... unless you invested in eggcoin
>>560941571>late gamemost games in ranks that actually matter don't get to lategame
>>560940421they started out fine, but as years went by they started making them flashier and flashier with vfx jammed up the ass of each skin to make them sell and now they are all overdesigned as fuck and they now all look like they came from some retarded chink mobile game. literally skin power creep.
>>560941646>at least his ult is usefulAt getting away, something silver players say about her ult
>>560941646>at least his ult is useful.his ult is the part that falls off completely though to any semblance of spirit resistance and people stack that shit to the max in lategame if spirit damage is a problemthe CC aspect of it isn't as powerful because enemies barely take damage in it
>>560941790At least it cc's. Silver gets cc'd.
>>560941734it's messed up because they specifically set out design rules to prevent that from happening but then they started ignoring them
>>560941734>>560940421This is what the average deadlock character will look like a few years from now.
>>560941837u r pathetic! haha
>>560920549Vortex web is necessary for good door cart combos without having to use your ult every time to set them up or just hope the enemy stands in front of your door and you get lucky.
>>560941862I think the razor one is based
>>560942105cart and then door if u see it will hit, doorcuck
>>560941862Maybe I'm just not creative enough but I really struggle to see how deadlock will reach that level
>>56094217290% of walls and surfaces cant be door'd
>face a good paradox player>double-bomb build>absolutely demolishes our entire team>chases down our carries on lane, puts up double bombs and swaps them back into the bombs while using knockdown and slowing hex>dealing 3000 dmg in 2.5 seconds>sustains in a 1v3 because of Infuser>silences everyone constantly with double walls>fast as fuck with stam mast and enduring speedWhat in the fuck was that shit, i rarely see good paradoxes but i guess this is why Yoshi keeps adjusting her
>>560942254So cart them at the 10%
>>560942172In lots of places that's awkward, and its difficult to hit groups.Attacking base into Doorman with a vortex grenade is incredibly dangerous as he can very easily launch 3+ people into the well and then hotel another.
>>560942252like another anon said, it was tame at first but over time it degenerated
>>560941898u r geh! haha
>Balance a hero around requiring ending games quick when 90% of people want to finish their build or farm kills when they're ahead instead of ending the gameBravo Yoshi, perhaps your finest addition yet.
>>560942339that's how it works yes. you have to wait for people to walk infront of allowed surfacesor you can vortex web them and pull them there
>>560942419ok Alchemist
>>560942419Why does he hate Apollo so much?
I can't take this patch anymore. The gulf between good and shit heroes has never been larger.
>>560942671heh... just 1 more week until new patch... right bros?? Surely they realize how bad it is...
I've seen enough.Buff McGinnis and Viscous, nerf Lash.
>>560942252So at first it'll be Lady Geist with a fur coat and eventually it'll be like a legendary skin of Geist fully possessed with a custom animation set, a billion visual effects, different skill effects, extra voice line packs and whatnot.
what compels a retarded team to hunt down a single enemy instead pushing a guardian in brawl?
>>560942874Pretty scarily accurate. this is 100% guaranteed to happen.She's gonna have a 40$ arcana skin which is going to be oathkeeper taking over.
My life for the urn, I will slam my head blindly into a teamfight ontop of the urn dropoff no matter the odds!Fuck pushing the green walker, for the urn!
>>560943032coolshame it'll be 90% blinding particle effects and green light emitters
russians are subhuman niggers in need of genocide
>>560916098you get souls on assists and if im playing carry, 2+ deaths on enemy team allows me to do objectives that will net me souls anyway. plus, all of the hyper scale abilities in the game got reworked to where a killing blow is no longer required. no reason to complain.now, if were in early lane, and you come to my lane to gank, fail to secure a gank, *and* soak more than 1 wave, i will flame the shit out of you because you're basically griefing.
euros are starting to queue up for Friday I see....
>>560943023>Complaining about objectives in brawl
>>560943189seethe amerifat/eurocuck
>>560943491Notice how you have to mention not one but two continents hating you
>>560943491in a few minutes that guy won't be mad, but you will always be russian
>>560943491your entire intellectual class was wiped out + you're victims of mongolian rape. you're basically african iq.
>>560943440you win the round by taking down the guardian/walker, not hunting a single enemy, you fucking meathead
i like playing listening to russian electro
>>560943626yet we are considered based and your countries are hated by your own people lmao
>>560943748>we are considered based???
>>560943748Delusional rusnig
>no balancing done for the game for over 3 weeks now>but they have enough time on their hands to add in a new parry animation for mina out of nowhereokay
I don't have anything against russians
Drifter has to be the most skilless hero in the game, even if you are completely braindead so long as you ult someone it's -1 in the fight. Seriously the highest skillfloor in the game by virtue of how retarded his ult is, No&skill has nothing on the rapist.
>>560943926sorry, we still need more play data to determine if mcginnis deleting people with her ult in 2 seconds is fair or not
>>560943810>>560943859enjoy getting replaced, paying more for gas, going to prison for hate speech and owning nothing
>>560943926don't like it? go play something else!!!!!
>>560943986yes, russia would never imprison someone for speech deemed incorrect
>>560943934Actually not wrong either, it's another one that has massive teamfight impact just for pressing 4. He also scales infinitely from it.
Celeste has to be the most skilless hero in the game, even if you are completely braindead so long as you ult someone it's -1 in the fight. Seriously the highest skillfloor in the game by virtue of how retarded her ult is, No&skill has nothing on the clown.
>>560943926art and animation team are not the same as the gameplay mechanics and balance team you bumbling retard
>>560930183>>560929983Unironically the wrong people were playing her.>Leif, Lystic, FreemokAll dogshit at her.Right now Goober is actually doing pretty okay with her. Not great but enough I can see her deserving her mid-draft picks when Billy isn't on the table.
>>560943986Yeah you rusnigs are dying out thanks to your war lol enjoy getting replaced by jeets and nigs
>>560943934Oh hey were you the Celeste from this game that got completely buckbroken?
>>560944295She's at best a win more hero, almost any other hero could do this. Hell, if you build more green on graves she can do a better job.
>you can counter spell Drifter ult if timed
>>560944230yeah but at least she doesnt scale by ulting
>>560943996That is exactly what I've been doing to be honest.
>>560944414>this entire imagewhat the hell
>>560939508SIlver's bite is NOT 180 degrees. Tail whip is and they landed it.>>560944445Lol no. Silver isn't amazing but Graves is straight up the worst character in the entire game.>>560943926When will you niggers learn that you don't want animation faggots coding and balancing.
>McGinnis disappears somewhere in the lanes, only seen at a teamfight twice>end 1/15/3Every goddamn time. I get they really want to get those walkers and believe allahu akbaring against them over and over again is great pushing, but fucking hell, I've lost count of the amount of games concluded because one of them fed the everloving shit out of a Haze or whatever analogue.
>>560944445(you) would do better on graves, yes. for obvious reasons
do you guys think chuck norris would've liked playing as abrams
>>560929983>>560944295the wrong people are playing her and also people don't know how to itemize properly on herit's actually insane how the only mainstay on her that has remained is stamina mastery because she's a garbage 2 stam, and express shot and it's an item that is only good in her human form.nobody knows how to build on this hero because she needs too much shit. Needs a shitload of greens to survive in ult, needs a shitload of oranges to actually do damage, needs several purples for counter items (knockdown, silence wave, etc.) not to mention you NEED any and all mobility to actually stick to people in ult
Dynamo has to be the most skilless hero in the game, even if you are completely braindead so long as you ult someone it's -1 in the fight. Seriously the highest skillfloor in the game by virtue of how retarded his ult is, No&skill has nothing on the professor.
vortex web vyper
>New patchnotes>Silver: "Gave Slam Fire +1 Charge by default (:"
>>560944823Are (you) doing well on Silver?
>>560944445>She's at best a win more heroThis hereSilver, especially at a tournament level, is a cleanup character, her bola might help catch someone who then gets jumped by her team but basically every hero has something like that.Silver isn't "bad", but she's not strong either, she's really just a meatshield pick that these clowns fight over picking
>russian girl with a heavy accent fighting with another teammate in voicecute
>>560944890I think slamfire should be reworkedinstead of empowering the first three shots, empowers every bullet that was reloaded (if you pop slamfire with a full magazine it gives you minimum 1 bullet)change her alt fire to be the rapid fire low accuracy high spread levering. Empowered bullets no longer deal as much damage as old slamfire individually but maybe keep (if you land 3 in a row it does % current hp)
>>560944834Silver's builds are not player issues, like you yourself said in this post, she NEEDS a lot of items.That coupled with the fact that Silver sucks at farming means that she basically has no wiggle room in her builds
>>560944414>tank buster celeste>everaint me
>>560945116sucking at farming is a big thing that just kills a character too if you're behind it means you can't reliably mow down waves and camps as fast like every game I play seven, if I'm behind after lane phase, I generally can just farm up because he rapes waves and camps and objectives, but on silver I struggle to even clear wavesand buying items that help with it (cultist, ricochet) also give you basically wasted stats. Ricochet doesn't work in wolf so no reason to buy it.I feel like it'd be better if wolf was a stance change and human/wolf were balanced to be as good as each other instead of balanced around building ult to go into wolf
>>560945116Silver needs a few oranges to do damage, otherwise you can indeed fight the stove. She also needs greens to survive going melee range to use her oranges, then she also needs some purples just to keep the target near her. She honestly has no room at all for builds, it's actually funny because she's the true L-->R hero since her builds consists of the exact same items. And she always becomes useless as soon as midgame ramps up.
>>560944834>>560944915>>560944445Silver isn't JUST a win more character, she's good at roaming and ganks with someone else I guess.The REAL answer why Nightshifters constantly pick is is because she's a comfort pick.Goober picks her when he can't have viscous.Freemok picked her until he got comfortable with Billy.The "She's so OP." nonsense is just people defending their comfort picks.>>560944890Oh boy! AA-12 on a lever action! Death!>>560945110I think human form is generally fine in terms of kit. It's just wolf form's place in her kit. I did like someone's concept of Silver's human/wolf being like a stance that you have to manage as it auto switches. You could even have like a cool moon/sun graphic clock. They should really post that on the forums.
>>560943926>animation that already had an idea and reference and it probably took 10 minutes (4 of those minutes were spent shitting) to make
why are devs allergic to play their own fucking game why giving the cunt with a revive a three charges debuff remover
>>560943748highest divorce rates and highest aids rate in europe. yeah so based man. abused child -> alcoholic retard griefing online games is the only career path any of you niggers have.
>>560945450NTA but what the hell is a comfort pick?
>that persistent enemy who wont leave THAT lane
>>560945450>The "She's so OP." nonsense is just people defending their comfort picks.It's actually intentionally malicious people trying to get her nerfed again.
>>560943926balancing isn't done on a kneejerk basis retard
Does this game have a smurfing problem?
>>560945450>The REAL answer why Nightshifters constantly pick is is because she's a comfort pick.>Goober picks her when he can't have viscous.Broooo you don't understand, she's top 8, she's one of the strongest characters, she can 1v6 whenever she wants, trust me bro!
>>560945850>does a free game have a smurfing problem
>>560945741i aspire to be the dude in the blue shirt
>>560945691don't care if he's a big meat wall but the meat wall shotgunning me for half my health and melting 3 people's health bar because they stood within 20m of his person is criminal
>>560945875goober can't even be considered a real human being when he's off viscous
>>560945875Don't forget she spawn camps too, she's a true horror.
Silver literally need more nerfs, she's too strong!
>>560943659It's the fucking deathmatch mode your niggero
>>560945935yeah I don't understand why it's not a bigger point of contention>>560946048why do you browse groomcord
>>560945706You pick the character not because they're strong or even good. You pick them because you're comfortable or good with them. Like Viscous isn't particularly meta right now but anytime Goober is on the other team players will ban Viscous because Goober is that fucking good on him.It's more used in conjunction with competitive play where people actually care alot about going meta picks.>>560945875>80% winrate in night shiftit was like 33%~ and she's only caught nerfs.>>560946048I'll def concede she can 1v1 pretty well hence why she's good at roaming, but trying to say she can carry is retard shit lmao. Maybe if you get hyper fed and people decide to not by CC at that point.
>>560946161why is viscous a farmer covered in arrows and why does he have a full skeleton inside him
Silver is OP because... SHE JUST IS, OKAY?!
>>560946263her 1v1 potential is entirely dependent on if the enemy either has cc in their kit or bought any counter items
>>560946048>"she can carry">"not like a carry but">"like this other type of carry that she's nothing like at all"These are the retards that Yoshi listens to by the way.
gun or spirit vyper
>>560946302>>560946048>silver upplayers were discord raidersIt was obvious but it's nice to have it confirmed
>>560946017Oh anon you want to know the whole story?The reason she was nerfed into the Shitter is because this Goober faggot posted a clip of him ganking Lash and saying "THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN SHE'S OP"I wish I was joking.
Has there ever been a single time where Silver successfully carried a game that wasn't the Kelvin dome werewolf fight club rape game.
>>560945664>>560945664>>560945664>>560945664
>>560944903>Hell, if you build more green on graves she can do a better job.Better than you I would bet lol
>>560946441Green.
>>560940421YesThis one is also old and it's way worse now.
>>560943986>Putin about to import +1M IndiansYeah, about that, Dimitri.
>>560946161>calicodisgusting>graveswtf>hazewtf?!