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"DIGIMON CON 2026 IS ALMOST UPON US" EDITION

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>DIGIMON CON TO BEGIN SUNDAY MARCH 22 AT 9:30AM JST - ENGLISH LINK BELOW
https://youtu.be/C-hLjbKTpGM

>Digimon Con 2026 Content List
https://withthewill.net/threads/35802

>NEW TO THE DIGIMON FRANCHISE? HERE'S A STARTER GUIDE
https://imgur.com/a/5uGdx0l

GAME NEWS
>Time Stranger is out now!
>Alternate Dimension DLC Pack 1: Available Now!
>GAKU-RAN DLC Pack 2: Available Now!
>Anti-ParadoX DLC Pack 3: Available Now!

>DragonRod's Digital Tamer Reborn 2
https://dragonrod342.itch.io/digital-tamers-2

>Digital Monster: Net Driver
https://kuhamaven.itch.io/dm-net-driver

>Other recent games:
Digimon Story Time Stranger, Digimon Survive, Digimon World Next Order (PC & Switch Port)

>Upcoming games:
Digimon Alysion

>Lost Evolution translation patch finally released
https://pastebin.com/ddh1C8LM

ANIME NEWS
>Digimon Beatbreak official website
https://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/digimon_beatbreak/

>New Tactics arc details
https://withthewill.net/threads/35267

>Episode 22 subs
https://nyaa.si/view/2086314

LIBERATOR NEWS
>Comic Chapters & Web Novel Chapters
https://digimoncard.com/digimon_liberator/en/comic/
https://digimoncard.com/digimon_liberator/en/novel/

>Official website
https://digimoncard.com/digimon_liberator/

>Official JP theme
https://youtu.be/YkmPTtp9D_o

>Liberator synopsis and character details
https://withthewill.net/threads/30615
https://digimoncard.com/digimon_liberator/en/character/

CARD GAME NEWS
>Current /tg/ /dcg/ thread
>>>/tg/97710688

MANGA NEWS
>Digimon Dreamers online distribution update
https://withthewill.net/threads/30849

>EN Reference Book
https://digimon.net/reference_en/

>Line Builders
https://digimon-lines.com/build
https://furudbat.github.io/digimon-partner-kit/

[RESOURCES PASTEBIN [UPDATED WITH CS MOD DETAILS!]
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Godzilla Pendulums soon.
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Kyo will die but Naito will be redeemed.
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>>560995448
>cutting the show's potential fujo revenue in half
not a very wise decision
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>>560996080
I want him to top me.
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>>560996080
You can have dead fujobait and still sell millions, just look at half the JJK cast
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>>560995443
Literally why do you want it. I know it's coming and announced, but what will it have that the DMCGz didn't give you already? Same shit but with PenC system? What's the fucking point, you think they witholding some sekrrit godzilla exclusive jogresses?
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>>560996286
Seraphy will be getting Kyo'd in the dark recesses of Nirinso where no-one can hear him scream.
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>>560996608
Soon.
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>>560995448
You've been saying kyo will die next episode for 10 weeks.
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Show me your upcoming Digicon 2026 face/pose.
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>>560996732
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>>560996698
This time for sure
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The schedule is out. Going to last roughly 3 hours.

Toy section being 2nd is obviously big news.
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>>560997271
>Game section is half an hour long
What are they hiding
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>>560997271
Probably season 2 of TS plus a tease for a new game that was made during the last 3 years if TS dev hell.
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Itsumo Itsumo Itsudemo
Tsu~ujiatteru kara~
Itsumo Itsumo Dokodemo
To~nde ikeru wa~
Itsumo Itsumo Itsudemo
Mi~nna ga soba ni iru~
Ki~tto ki~tto dare demo
Hitori ja nai wa~
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>>560998881
oh no
gay
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Honoka the Abyssal > Kaito the Blazing > Rose the Verdant > Genjo the Adamantine >>> Klay the Surging
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>>560997271
All I care about are the tcg and games. Guess I should set my expectations for sucks.
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>>560999886
I wonder how they're going to do Rose. She hasn't done jack shit while the other 3 at least have some character focus
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>>561000048
>TCG
Alysion release date most likely
>Game
Unless they've been secretly working on another game alongside TS, it's best to just assume we're getting more DLC at most
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I wonder if they're gonna show the other Alysion characters + their mons
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Raito is one of the most fraudulent characters in recent memory.
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>>561001592
It would've been dumb of them to reveal the updated start screen if they weren't at least planning on telling us who their partners are
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>>561001349
Subtle poisoning. At most you will just get a smirk when someone collapses.
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>>561001735
>Red girl has headphones
Otamamon, come on!
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>>561001349
Idol agency where she forces the worst-performing girls to whore themselves out to investors for money
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>>561001837
>We FINALLY get a proper Gekomon Ultimate
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>>560999886
You'll all be simping for Rose probably harder than Honoka once she reveals her femdom tendencies or whatever.
>Genjo that low
Criminal.
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>They asked the Hololive vtuber to do a reaction stream of Digimon Con
I don't hate vtubers as much as most anons do, but this sounds like a pretty bad idea. It's a 3 hour stream and if they don't have any meaty announcements to hook people, it'll just make people bored and lose interest
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>>561002306
Genjo's stock rests entirely on how good his evil plan is. Dude has been fucking with Tomoro since episode 1
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Sawashiro Kyo will ___
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>>561002332
Not sure why they're so intent on forcing it this much and wasting money that HL requires for this shit, especially if it is the full 3 hours.
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>>560997271
9:30 OPENING
9:40 ANIME: [DIGIMON BEATBREAK] Digimon cast crosstalk
10:05 Agumon, Gekkomon and Terriermon assistant real time talk
10:10 TOY: Digimon Tamers 25th anniversary! Latest LCD Toys news
10:35 Agumon, Gekkomon and Terriermon assistant real time talk
10:40 CARD: Latest Digimon TCG and Digimon Alysion news
11:10 Agumon, Gekkomon and Terriermon assistant real time talk
11:15 GAME: Latest Digimon game news
11:45 Agumon, Gekkomon and Terriermon assistant real time talk
11:50 GOODS & EVENT: Latest Digimon merchandise and events news
12:25 ENDING
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>>561002306
It's a ranking of their titles. Adamantine has a nice vibe but falls flat if you stop to think about it.
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>>561002447
He certainly has more presence than Honoka or fucking Rose who has done literally nothing and had a single completely impersonal scene
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>>561001690
Raito is actually an accurate representation of what child "geniuses" are like in real life. They get praised for their academic merit, get told they have a bright future and everything should be easy for them, they become narcissistic and arrogant as a result, and when they fail at something (likely because they never learned to work hard for anything) they end up having a complete mental breakdown as their sense of identity gets destroyed.
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>>561002592
Oh okay, my bad then.
Isn't it supposed to be Adamant though
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>>561002475
They have been doing a lot of weird marketing recently. Remember when they put an ad in Times Square? It's like Bandai finally gave them a marketing budget and they don't know what to do with it
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>>561002474
Get a mega in core 4
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>>561002573
do you think they'll give TS the HM treatment and make a side game?
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>>561002332
Koyori was the guest VA for Tinkermon, so at least it makes sense that if they'd call anyone it would be her.
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>>561002903
I hope they do. But I think we're just getting a season 2 of crappy DLC.
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>>561002937
It makes sense. But getting someone to react to your 3 hour stream where you only announce an Alysion release date, some v-pets and a couple TS DLCs is not good a good use of marketing
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>>561001690
>Raito is one of the most fraudulent characters in recent memory.
Raito is not the number 1 most fraudulent character somehow?
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Bandai executive here, Season 2 of Time Stranger DLC will work more like the game's main story, it will be a small pseudo-sequel titled "Episode Grimm", which will add 30 more Digimon to the game, including the main villain of Digimon World Dawn and Dusk, Grimmon
Sayo will also appear in order to squeeze extra cash from waifufags.
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>>561003109
Owen exists
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>>561002937
>>561003107
Why not just terriermon joshu collab
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>>561003107
Ah. I kinda thought it's just something that Japan does.
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>>561003238
https://youtu.be/c47wmMAGsTs
They already did that
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>>561002720
It's true that he's accurate. The side effect is that you can tell from his first appearance that he's 90% bark 10% bite.

>>561003109
It's because I wasn't limiting myself to just Digimon.
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>>561003317
So do it again no? Terriermon is going to talk about it anyways
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Bets on the game section opening with Omega?
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>>560999886
Kyo the Golden >>>>> all of them
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>>561001690
>genius = ultimate prodigy with spotless battle record that trounces everybody efortlessly like some mary sue
you're a retard
it's been established that popinski is an idiot savant who can mimic anything he sees. despite his flaws, he managed to reach perfect in record time and has captured an entire basement's worth food for progeriamon. compare that to, say, the kinoko gang, or most of the common crooks the golden dawn has dealt with
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>>561003109
Not even the biggest fraud of the show when Naito exists.
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>>561003509
Yeah, it's a weird decision. It's why I said it's a bad idea. They probably would've gotten more out of it if they invited her for a short interview or merch shilling session during DigiCon itself
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>>561002720
>They get praised for their academic merit, get told they have a bright future and everything should be easy for them, they become narcissistic and arrogant as a result
only if they hang around with the average retards
life has dynamic difficulty. if you hop on the prodigy train, they're gonna put you in a different cage and compare you to other prodigies of your caliber, bringing you down 5 or 10 pegs or so and making you know just how insignificant you are
in life, the reward for hard work is only more work
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>>560997607
Alysion for 15 minutes, random talking for 10 minutes, and maybe 5 minutes to reveal a second TS Season Pass
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>>561003971
Alysion is in the TCG section though
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>>560997271
Cant wait for the D-Arc.
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>>561003650
>has captured an entire basement's worth food for progeriamon
Nta but while you are correct, it is a shame that we never see him being actually competent. He IS competent but we only see him mess up to Tomoro.
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Houtaruko slapping Naito really awakened the e-pulse inside me.
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>>561003107
>wanting to advertise big things is not good marketing
Uh..?
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>>561004526
Again, you can advertise it by either getting her to do a short interview/merch shilling segment, or do a Terisuke video after the event. Getting her to react to all 3 hours is a bit unreasonable
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>>561004684
Unreasonable for her? She's a digimon fan so she'd likely be happier getting paid to watch something on stream she would have watched for free.
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>>561004831
Unreasonable for Bandai. It's marketing, after all. You need to take into account her audience who might not be fans. Would they really care about 20 minute interviews with the BeatBreak cast or the multiple Agumon and Terisuke segments?
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>>561004980
Nips unironically love talking, there's gacha anniversary streams that reach 24 fucking hours
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>>560996732
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>>561004980
>Would they really care about 20 minute interviews with the BeatBreak cast or the multiple Agumon and Terisuke segments?
You are overestimating the average vtuber fan. They would listen to her talking about poop if that means having to listen to her "oshi" that day.
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>>561005150
But at that point it just becomes a normal talking stream. It would fail as marketing because her fans aren't sold on the product
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>>561005257
I mean, maybe? There is always a chance one or two fans will like what they see and could become Digimon fans.
Anyway, you seem way too much worried about what Bandai spend their money on. It's their money, after all.
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>>561005410
It's mostly just me not expecting them to have anything big to announce this year, and the confusion that they're paying her for a 3 hour reaction stream instead of a Terisuke collab.
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>>561005558
nta but the game section is half an hour, as big as the Alysion/TCG section that is guaranteed to have news
There's bound to be SOMETHING new
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Manifesting Ordinemon
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>>561005558
My hopium is that they will announce the next future game. Yes, it could be just the idea on paper, but at least it would mean they are working on it.
My other hopium is announcing Beatbreak will have more then 50 episodes.
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>>561005641
Enhanced Survive re-release...
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>>561006046
Unfortunately, they already announced Dragon Ball will take over the time slot
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>>561006172
Well, they could always pull a Xros Wars and move the show to another timeslot. Although that chance actually killed the ratings, as far I remember.
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>>561006046
Nah they won't extend it for no reason especially when it hasn't exploded in popularity.
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>>561006172
I legit think I'm going to be depressed when I don't have my digimon saturdays anymore
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>>561006046
Take the Dragon Ball pill.
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>>561006172
It's kind of interesting and impressive how much of an afterthought Digimon is to Bamco that it's just used to fill empty airtime to hold the slot for something better
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>>561006538
Just let it die like Toriyama. The last couple of Super arcs in the manga were mediocre at best
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>>561006775
It's also not enough of an afterthought because they decided to make 97 episodes of Great Mission as a time slot filler after Ghost Game instead of a new Digimon anime
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>>560997271
Gekkomon is going to be part of the live talk this year? That mean we are getting a Gekkomon 3D model?
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>>561006943
What is Great Mission?
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>>561006943
>97 episodes of Great Mission as a time slot filler after Ghost Game
"Amazing" how they made a near 100-episode weekly anime series in an era of seasonal cours (12 episode seasons).
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>>561006538
I am a DB fan and even I couldn't be hyped for it.
I mean, it's just the Beerus arc for the third time, what's the point?
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>>561007054
Wouldn't that meant Gekkomon is pretty much locked in for the next Story game? Pteromon and Zephagamon also have 3D models from the Liberator trailer
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>>561007060
No idea. But they got the Digimon Next mangaka to do the character designs
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>>561004684
This might be the dumbest post I've seen in a while. Having her watch the whole thing means her viewers will watch the whole thing, making her do a short segment means they'd only watch that segment then leave. They do watchalongs to events all the time, so saying it's unreasonable when there is a precedent for it is braindead.
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>>561006775
That's because Bandai is run by a bunch of old farts who have not yet discovered streaming.
A Digimon season could entirely survive on its own on a streaming services without the need of a TV time slot.
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>>560970270
Sorry for the late reply.
My preferred rookie is actually Gotsumon into Monochromon into Triceramon. I do not care for Styracomon, it lacks Triceramon’s charm. I really don’t have a preferred Level 6 but accept UltimateBrachiomon more as a cope than anything. I like Triceramon because his design is just so “Digimon” to me. The Agumon-like eyes, the hunch-backed bipedalism, the mix of roughness and charm present in its design. I really wish there was a Level 6 that felt as good for it as say Greymon to MetalGreymon. Just the base design with some cybernetic additions. Maybe that makes me boring. I just find Triceramon to be really perfect in its simplicity. It’s just so “Digimon”.
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>>561007140
>>561006943
>Almost a hundred episodes
>It came and went, leaving hardly a trace besides hastening the death of the Vital Bracelet
Impressive
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To me digimon should hold the essence of kaiju. Not that all digimon should be kaiju or that they should even look like Kaiju, but all digimon should be born from the essence that inspires kaiju and other monster movies. And sentai. Sentai is important.
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>>561007495
That's most of Japan anon. Their highly deferential to seniority culture has caused all kinds of hilarious issues. Their web design is stuck in the early 2000s. Most things use cash. You have to go to basically 7-11s to print tickets because they won't let you have them on a phone or mail them to a relatives sometimes. Shit feels like you fall back in time when you visit. t. mixed-blood with family there. Don't want to talk about the family in the countryside because it all kind of hurts.
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>>561007060
Basically a thematic "hide and seek" japanese tv show in where you hide from some "Men in Black", and if you do it, you win certain ammount of money. Then, it somehow got an anime show which lasted almost 100 episodes.
I think the western equivalent would be if Jeopardy or Wipeout got a cartoon show about them. Wait, I guess the true real life equivalent would be Drama Total.
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>>561008208
They are, they're. I am ashamed.
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>>561008284
Huh, that whole show was a tax dodge due to Canadian funding and rules. Pretty sure it survived as long as it did because they were able to use government grants and tax credits to make it net cost zero(0). It's why most Canadian programming goes beyond Canada.
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>>561007973
Why Sentai? We don't have any Sentai Digimon besides maybe the Shoutmon line. Meanwhile we have like, 5 Kamen Rider themed Digimon
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>>561008208
Nah, that's just Toei and other few studios that are still stuck in the last century. Hell, JoJo's Part 7 was released this week as a Netflix exclusive.
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>>561008498
Well, maybe the Great Mission show was also a tax dodge scheme, who knows?
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>>561008772
Don't know weeb rules. Only know the Canadian ones because I'm a Canuck-Burger and it's super interesting when you get into it since both countries speak the same language, share a massive border, and have mostly had weirdly friendly relations for most of their histories. Many countries have rules about pushing their own content because American music, shows, movies, media, everything really, is just that dominant that you need to demand that enough of what is broadcasted is still your own culture or just submit to the USA
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>>561007973
>And sentai. Sentai is important.
Nah, fuck Sentai. That's how we got Frontier.
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>>561007973
And Sentai the franchise is dead at the moment.
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>>561009441
How does Sentai die? It appeals on a primal level with boys.
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Shit toy sales and Shirakura wanting to make a modern Gavan show.
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>>561009602
I wonder how much of that is because of Japan's negative birthrate and therefore lack of little boys to cheer on super sentai shenanigans.
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>>561008549
>>561009245
Anon probably means the digivice aspect with sentai
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>>561007209
>what's the point?
legal issues
rights dispute between shueisha and capsule corp tokyo. shueisha loves money and is doing this to skirt around the lawsuits
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>>561007973
>all digimon should be born from the essence that inspires kaiju and other monster movies
What do you mean exactly by that? If it is about the somewhat eerie, threatening atmosphere surrounding them while still looking cool, then I agree.
I do think the franchise is at its best when it has this nostalgic Y2K feeling to it though so I would add that it also needs to feel, well, digital.
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>>561009663
Kamen Rider sells well. Super Sentai's sales went down the gutter because they never innovated on the toys, which led to them being boring display bricks compared to their competitors like Shinkalion. The recent shows themselves are extremely popular, with some of the fan favourites like Donbrothers, Kingohger, and Kiramager all coming out in the Reiwa era. Disney not doing Power Rangers anymore also cut down a significant amount of profit they used to get annually, and they can't market Sentai themselves like what Ultraman and Kamen Rider are doing because of the contract they signed with Saban where they're not allowed to market Sentai anywhere besides certain Asian countries
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>>561006943
>they decided to make 97 episodes of Great Mission as a time slot filler after Ghost Game instead of a new Digimon anime
anime takes a year or 2 in production before airing. you can't just decide "ok last season's ratings were decent, so let's launch a whole new one next week lol"
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>>561010048
Thank you for informing me. Kamen Rider is about as old as anime and manga though even though it's formula is fantastic
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>>561008549
>We don't have any Sentai Digimon besides maybe the Shoutmon line
Stingmon, NightChiropmon, the angels somewhat even if it is more discreet

Imperialdramon is arguably a kaiju x sentai fusion
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>>561010290
>even though it's formula is fantastic
That's another thing. Kamen Rider isn't as formulaic as Sentai. Since Rider often reinvents itself every year, and the stories are serialised, you're encouraged to watch every week to see what's gonna happen next. Sentai, meanwhile, is a lot more episodic and has the same vibes between seasons, so they risk people going "I can skip this week's episode, there probably won't be anything interesting happening". Even if recent shows like Donbrothers and Kingohger did everything they can to shake up the formula, it was really hard to change the perception people already have of Sentai from its 50 years of non stop serialisation
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>>561010612
>Stingmon, NightChiropmon
Those are Kamen Riders
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>>561010612
Stingmon is THE Kamen Rider Digimon, though. Hell, Ken's epilogue in 02 is literally a Kuuga reference. And NightChiropmon is more of a Batman reference than a Sentai reference
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>>561010752
>>561010850
Isn't Kamen Rider Sentai?
My bad, i'm not very knowledgeable
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>>561011443
Kamen Rider and Sentai are two different shows under the Tokusatsu genre. Kamen Rider focuses more on armoured solo heroes, their toys are mostly about form upgrades. Meanwhile Super Sentai is about colourful teams of heroes in Spandex who pilot mechs, and their toys are mostly about getting auxiliary mech parts and new robots to combine into one bigger mech
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>>561010008
Digimon should be about monsters in conflict and how that affects humans. Digimon should look like monsters. Digimon should be mysterious. Digimon should say something about humanity. Digimon should be fun. Digimon should be spectacular. Digimon is ok if it’s cheesy and ok if it takes itself seriously. Digimon should be a story about Digital Monsters.
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>>561011632
>their toys are mostly about getting auxiliary mech parts and new robots to combine into one bigger mech
That still sounds like Imperialdramon, Omegamon too
I think it's fair to say kaiju and tokusatsu instead, then
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>>561011913
No, it's more like Shoutmon. His DigiXros forms are basically Digimon's version of a Sentai Robo, right down to the huge clusterfuck at the very end where you mash all your toys together into one massive, unwieldy mess
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>>561006456
>>561007973
>>561006775
You made me remember that rumor about how Saban, after the post-Frontier anime hiatus, wanted to make their own season to "continue the hype" and keep selling toys, just like they did with Power Rangers, which was based on Super Sentai.
I don't know if that was true, but now I wonder what would have happened if they went with that path.
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>>561013125
same fate as their dumpster fire of a sailor moon show probably
or an even worse fate, like duel masters, which got fucked six ways to sunday by WotC (see kaijudo)
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>>561013125
>Digimon: Force Three is an unreleased toyline consisting of three Digivices: Hyper, Fusion and Armor. They were exclusively developed by Bandai America during the Digimon Frontier era, but it was not officially released.
>According to the few available promotional material available, these Digivices worked in conjunction with the D-Tector Card Game, which would allow the Tamers to explore new areas of the Digital World and increase the power of their teams. In addition, the device allowed battles in the Multiplayer Mode, and its main objective was to acquire the three available worlds to take over control of the Digital World.
>The storyline accompanying the toys is that it takes place at least 100 years after Digimon Frontier. A small conflict began in three areas of the Digital World which then grew until only chaos and disorder remained. Hope persists, however, in the three leaders who have come from the Real World and given the power of the Digivice to restore peace. They are also given the responsibility of defeating the evil Hydemon before he completely destroys the Digital World.
Yeah, they did plan one. But I guess Frontier didn't sell well enough to justify making new toys tied to its setting
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>>561013607
Didn't we already get Aegiomon in the last TS set?
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>>561013686
We're getting another
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>>561013497
>Frontier started with a race war
>Cherubimon then betrayed the angels and started another war
>Lucemon got freed and destroyed the entire Digital World
>100 years later, there's another war going on between three factions (probably the angels)
The Frontier Digital World sucks
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>>561013497
Adding Hydemon to the list of Never-evers
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>>561013812
Aegiomon truly is a new major face for the franchise.
I doubt we'll ever get another Digimon game without him.
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>>561014390
>Every new game has to waste five slots on the Aegio Rangers
Fuuuuuuuuuck
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>>561014456
I'm not sure we'll get every one but at least Red and maybe Holy.
OXII in general now might have RK and DL status as constant game mainstays now.
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>>561013497
This would have been kino.

>>561013410
>same fate as their dumpster fire of a sailor moon show probably
But they actually succeeded with Power Rangers, which was their stronger brand for a lot of years.

>or an even worse fate, like duel masters
Isn't Duel Masters an example of the opposite? A Japanese studio fucking up a western IP?
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>>561014628
To be fair, Power Rangers straight up used Japanese action footage, which was the best part of the show. They didn't try to make their own suits and film the fight scenes from scratch.
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>>561014390
Do you guys think Aegiomon has a human dick or a goat dick?
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I hope one day we get an Arc V style Digimon anime where each of the protags has their own past evolution style. Like one of them has Armor Evolution, one of them can Spirit Evolve, one of them can use cards, etc.
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>>561015269
Seems that would require a weird world. Like the humans are all all various experimental forms by the host server from an outside source to determine how to advance Digimon evolution.
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>>561015480
Yeah Arc V has weird cosmology too. Definitely my favorite yu gi oh season
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>>561015480
One of them has two digimon and jogresses
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>>561014628
>manga was created in japan
>game gets made years later
>wotc sabotaged franchise in america it like there's no tomorrow in the west
not really
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>>561013497
Reminds me of the time Kenner tried to make a sequel to Return of the Jedi just to keep selling toys
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>>561015551
Arc-V was so amazing early on, it was easily the best premise they have done. The concept of a dimensional war divided between summoning methods was genius.
It always gets hate for the latter parts, but not even love for the early ones.



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