Double Dead Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-06-2026-update.114328/post-226950>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>561126435
first for cute Vindicta feet
Shiv is braindead broken again... Yoshit and Hotpoo should have been fired long ago.
Shiv status?
>>561155969I've been stuck at the same rank for months. If I ever go up out of it I nearly immediately derank. If I ever go down out of it I nearly immediately rank back up. I have to win or lose 5 or 6 games in a row to go up or down also.
I should purchase something from t-ENDURNIG STRIKE
>>561156473TRUTH NVKE
>>561156486WHY WON'T SHIV DIE?!
i hate how boring paige is compared to how strong she is.
Graves status?
Silver still needs buffs :)
>>561156824better but still not good
>the only way to viably play Victor above Archon now is pure tank with radiant and witchmail>literally does no damage and also provides 0 disruption unlike other tanks>enemy just completely ignores him until his team is dead and then focuses him downWhy does Vic even exist anymore?
>>561156486
>>561157140Things are as they should be
>>561156824i'm owning as graves with my unique build that i won't share with anyone
>>561157140God forbid having to buy greens to tank...
When I practice denies in the practice room the light orbs always have a higher MS no matter how fast I am. It's like the light orbs have 100ms+ compared to the dark ones
just played against metro and won. face of dl bros...
Yoshi I know you're here, give Spirit Snatch the increased heavy melee distance that the orange variant has and do it now
>>561157140his 1 still does a gorillion unavoidable damage provided you can aim in the general direction of your enemy and he still has two health bars
i-i love victor... *coughs blood and dies*
I NEED TO HAVE SEX WITH LASH AND HUFF HIS ARMPITS OR I WILL DIE
we make a good team
>victor players when their boosted character gets a real nerf for the first time since it released
this patch is worse than last patch which is fucking embarrassing
>>561157770These boosted animals along with the other meta-slaves are a big part of the reason matchmaking is fucked beyond salvation. Many of them are nowhere near the rank they should be.
what are the best ways to get value out of doorman late game that aren't web kidnapping?
>>561157140victor mains are so disingenuous it's disgusting>>561157770these retards have been saying antiheal isn't his counter and you should silence him but now they're shitting themselves over a 30% LIFE STEAL nerf when 40% ANTI HEAL to ALL healing sources wasn't enough to stop him
>>561158082instead of buying purple items buy the orange ones
>>561157140>victor players grappling with the burden of playing a balanced character you love to see it
oh wowww victor only has a pityful 52+% wr in eternus + so unplayable wow
>>561157770i'm fine with him being nerfed, but a 30% lifesteal reduction just shows they got no idea what to do with him and it doesn't adress how shit early game is compared to every other character in the game. his late game remains unchanged but the early/mid is so fucking ass its genuinely unfunand people still don't buy counters even when he gets kills and free farm. i really don't understand why victor causes so much seethe when he's the only pure spirit carry in the game
>>561158154i haven't tried gunman since the big patch, is it better now? it always felt pretty mediocre before
playing viscous for the first time and I feel like I'm mostly griefing my team
>>561158505you haven't felt grief until you played vyper
>>561157770the victor mains seething becomes even more satisfying when you realize it's 90% neckbeard e-boys chasing e-girl pussy and 10% biofems who only play shit like victor and drifter and doorman
I’m still very new (first week), but it sort of worries me when i have almost 0 impact on some heroes. I’m mainly doing brawl and people will mvp with those same heroes a few games later
>>561157140no one cares dude you had your time in the sun when you were literally unkillable no one is sympathising with you and the game is a better place without victor being good
>>561158082>>561158442you don't do much late game beyond setting up kills and the occasional pick off, that's just the reality of the character right now. you're basically like paradox in the sense that you're there to set up kills for your team and do some damage here and there.Going full gunman sucks massive dong but some items for the 4.8k spike are perfectly fine like mystic shot.
>>561158564literally how she can grief outside of proxy farming
>>561158843Timing bola so that she blocks ally damage instead of setting up anything.
Victor is still ridiculously good but retards are mad that their character doesn't play itself into a 1v6 no brain carry anymore.
buff Rem
is trophy collector actually not that strong or am i just pisslowjust looks like it makes you better at roaming, so you can stack trophy collector, so you can roam, etc etc
>>561156824Pregnant with the heir of Ixia
I want to learn to play the game well; meaning playing heroes that don’t circumvent most systems and actually need to play well… I’m thinking Venator, Silver, and who else? Where you have to play close, shoot guns, limited/no movement cheats, etc
my graves build is kinda like this
>>561158960doorman can do the same
>>561159318it's trash
>>561159512Can I ask why you go toxic over tesla? She really sucks at wave clearing and jungling without it
>>561159318TC should only be bought on like 2 heroes
>>561159512please tell me you do not L-R and rush heroic aura
>>561159530he didnt say otherwise?
>>561159318Actually it makes you worse at roaming because you are throwing away your item spike for a useless item that takes forever to pay itself off. the stats it gives you are worthless for the price tag even when fully stacked.
>Made his early game better (it was already good)>Made his late game worse (it was already badI dont understand
>>561158419>doesn't adress how shit early game is compared to every other character in the gameget with the times old man the new meta is gun victor
>>561159512why ricochet over split shot?
Does anyone else buy based on vibes in the match or nah?
>>561159662NTA but toxic is dual purpose, it does good damage ontop of heal reduction and having a heal reduction is pretty much essential in this game.for better clear you just go split shot which is also really good in fights.
What characters should you NEVER buy egg on?
>>561159991every
>>561159779I'm glad that they are willing to make a lot of (often wild) changes for the characters, but they frequently feel very weird and directionless.Doesn't help that they never communicate (valve lol) their intentions, so it's often for the playerbase to decipher what the fuck they even mean with their changes.
>>561159662toxic for the big hero damage i dunno is tesla that good? i never really thought about it>>561159674dunno what to tell you rushing heroic aura has been working well for me but i could delay it>>561159802i don't really feel like split shot is needed early, no? or is it overpowered or something, by the time i need multi target stuff i can afford ricochet anyway
>>561159795if i wanted to play like a m1gger i wouldnt play victor
>ITT: seekertards celebrating the death of a character that already has a 49% winrate at E6 and is now down to 41%I knew you retards were bad, but Holy Fuck...
>>561159318Even at full stacks it doesn't feel that strong.If they want to make it a roaming support item they should remove the stacking bonus health and ability range and replace it with bonus healing and duration. Souls per minute could go back to 30 and it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
>>561160218We seekers are people too...
>>561160218
>>561158419>press 1 and deletes 1/3 of your bar>can't shoot him else he does it againwow... poor victor players... their suffering is just like his...
>>561160218>we should balance the game around the experience of 2000 subhuman gamers
>>561159318It's the best item in the game and you should buy it on every hero, it's free money
>>561159318It would be worth it if it started with 10 stacks.
>>561160218victor tards truly are the most disingenious third worlders in deadlock
>>561160187>rushing heroic aura>doesn't hit gun breakpoint>no damage at allatleast pick up close range or something damn
Sex with Venator
>>561160354>e6>seekerfag posts e1 numbers>seekerfag can't readYup, checks out.
I have played 6 games as Rem so far and he's now my favorite character. I don't deal a lot of damage to the enemies but I heal a lot, I save friends with, uhh, whatever the heal that also pulls is called, I take all the enemies' sinners sacrifices, and all this is very very fun. Also Rem is so cute the cutest.
>>561160676alright i'll try this instead
delete this nigger fucking graves hero from the game
>>561159991This post reminds me, is there anyway to block niggers from being on your team?
>>561160775Pick a different character for your E6 games faggot. Its not our problem.
>>561157639That's gay, anon. This is a heterosexual board
>>561157140>All that seething when the roster is dominated by m1 niggers, mobility and CC heroes who counter himVictor derangement syndrome is real
>>561161068hehehehsee dat shit?
>>561160421did you really get mindbroke by pain battery out of all things
>>561161005this looks worsedo you understand breakpoints?>cut resto shotthe biggest redeemer of her laning phase. crazy thing to cut
Why do no builds recommend Trophy Hunter?
>>561161319Too expensive for no stats, slow to stack, bonus stats for stacking aren't even that good.
>there's literally a server where i live>valve puts me on the server where i can't understand the languageJust why....
>>561161319buy egg and sell it for greater expansion
>>561161319The only hero I've ever seen build trophy hunter in any serious capacity is mo and krill.
>>561161181Think Abrams might just be Victor but better since they changed the siphon from being a cone to being a ring around him
>>561161803It doesn't even damage him + built in lifesteal so yeah siphon is objectively better in every way.That to me is way more cancer. At least victor didn't have hard CC (barring his ult whom you can dodge very easily)
>>561160218https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Fh5NGXDPw
>>561161953Victor isn't the protagonist.
>Fire Scarabs takes longer to apply heal>Fire Scarabs heal now reduced by healing reduction>Fire Scarabs damage amp replaced with enemy damage penalty in a game that has become all about trying to burst people before help can respond>Djinn's Mark scaling REDUCED when it's already struggling with dealing any damage through Dispel Magic, Spellbreaker, or just not letting Mirage shoot you for 10 secondsWhy the fuck are they so afraid of just buffing the bottom 1 character? It's not fucking rocket science just give him his base weapon damage back so he doesn't have bottom 10% dps against people above Initiate. Then you'll have all the wiggle room you want to figure out what you want Fire Scarabs to do.
They need to just give Mirage a new 1 at this point
>>561161276>do you understand breakpoints?yesbut all the other top builds by deathy and so on look awful to me in terms of items
>Fire Scarabs now slither through vents>Tornado allows Mirage to pass through vents>Djinn's Mark highlights vents>Traveler allows Mirage to teleport to any vent in the game
>>561162203They clearly have no idea what to do with the character We just got a rework of him and he feels even more disjointed than he did before
>>561156485>Sheev hits 43%wr instead of 42%AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE IT'S OVER I'VE HEARD ENOUGH NERF SHEEV
Took a break for my main Graves and played a couple of Silver matches and you guys were right, the changes on her are really nothingburger, even +1 move speed doesn't help. You still need to upgrade to tier 2 for the ult to be useful. And the ult still feels weakShe still falls off really hard in the late game. Basically nothing has really changed really except for being able to dash with boot kick straight up by just looking up.But I guess fixing the M1 buffer bug is considered a buff lmao thanks Yoshi.
>>561162203I miss the damage amp
Is Vindicta a hybrid hero or am I good building all gun on her?
>>561162770>gets buffs>complainsyou people deserve nothing
Silverfags are like victor players if victor players weren't playing victor.
>>561162889>buffFixing bugs is not a buff retard
>>561162949>Silver: Go For The Throat, Boot Kick and Mauling Leap now benefit from range increases>Silver: Boot Kick now uses a break-off angle when grounded, allowing upward movement if looking up enough>Silver: Tail Whack spirit scaling increased from 1 to 1.5>Silver: Lycan Curse now grants 1.5m Move Speed>Silver: Lycan Curse T1 increased from +18% Resists to +20%>Silver: Lycan Curse T2 increased from +150 Bonus Health to +200>Silver: Lycan Curse T3 now has a 1.5s buffer for kill credit
>>561162770The only real buff was the refresh change. But her ult form is still weak as hell so it needs more changes to feel more than a bigger target to spray lead into.
>>561163089>Silver: Go For The Throat, Boot Kick and Mauling Leap now benefit from range increasesShe has no slots, nothingburger>Silver: Boot Kick now uses a break-off angle when grounded, allowing upward movement if looking up enoughNot a buff, it makes it in like with similar abilities like Billy's charge>Silver: Tail Whack spirit scaling increased from 1 to 1.5Nothing burger because you never buy spirit on Silver higher than 4.8k>Silver: Lycan Curse now grants 1.5m Move SpeedAs I said it's nothing, still needs 52 to be useful>Silver: Lycan Curse T1 increased from +18% Resists to +20%Wooooooow +2%! Still dies in seconds in late game with spirit resist items>Silver: Lycan Curse T2 increased from +150 Bonus Health to +200Wooooow whole 50 health omg>Silver: Lycan Curse T3 now has a 1.5s buffer for kill creditMore of a QOL than a buffNothing burger changes and adjustments, not a single buff. Only fixing her M1 buffer bug could be considered a buff. Lmao
They need to do something for Infernus' DoT build, the coolest thing about the character is his gun animation (+zippo sound when reloading) and right now the better build in this meta is the one where the proud Ixian man Naruto runs in the middle of teamfights.
>>561162770The ult change just made her better at cleaning up from a victory, so still just a win more hero.
>>561162770Silver would be better if they just reworked her ultimate totally. She should not transform
Silver players writing a 90 page essay to justify their character will never not be funny say what you want about Victor players but are they spamming the thread with discord screenshots screeching about the nerfs non stop? Nope
>>561162770She will get more buffs, which she deserves.
>>561159318i like buying it but i think it's a trap>+2m Sprint Speed>+4 Out of Combat Regen3,200 souls for barely better than basic bootsStacked>+3.2m Sprint SpeedSprint Speed is nice but you can get around pretty fast with ziplines and schmoovement>+320 Max Healthmore health is... okay, i guess?>+16% Ability RangeMystic Expansion for patient people, slightly weaker but affects all abilities like Greater>+400 Souls per minutegoose egg but instead of -10% damage, you have -50% lane presence and farm, as you spend half of your time running around chasing killscorrect me if i'm wrong but farming waves is 600 Souls per minute, doesn't have a upfront cost of 3,200 souls, and doesn't require you to stack 16 times - so it's just worse than playing the game normallyi guess you could use it during laning phase?? but you're sacrificing any offensive potential from standard items in an attempt to offensively stack a defensive/utility itemtl;dr it ramps up too slowly and none of the effects are particularly compelling or contribute towards, you know... actually winning
>>561163975The silver posting will continue until they make her ult not terribleSorry if that makes you mad!
Erm...
>>561164213why would i be mad? im not mad if you get annoying i'll just leave i just find it funny you'll still be here though obsessing over a character you probably dont even play
>>561164213They just need to revert all nerfs to her and buff her on top of that
whats that pure spirit beam kelvin build?
>>561164213I don't think there is a way to make her ult not terrible. Her ult makes her the only hero restricted to he melee range, which is a death sentence most of the time in a game where everyone has guns and mostly ranged abilities. Funny how drifter is allowed to throw his claws at a distance but not Silver. They could maybe give werewolf a shotgun, that would be funny.
vampire named onion
mossad and skill on a magic carpet scare me
>oracle+, for larger sample size>...and more relevant to /dlg/)
>HotpoopLow Izzat.>IcefruadHigh Izzat.
>>561164838>archon**+are they going to redesign bebop or something? it seems like theyre really worried about him being aids
>>561164234no you see you need to look at the eternus 6 wr! I'm looking at them here and those characters are all at 30%!what no I'm not showing them to you you'll have to trust me
So how dogshit is being in a Seeker VI-Alchemist II range after a little under 300 games?Really bad?
>>561164838>auto aim character S tierholy fuck marvel rivals won. they actually won. deadlock is dead.
>>561164838>Paracocks in D tierlmao
>>561164640They could at least compensate melee m1s with actual tankiness thoughI don't mind it being weak to kiting and general schovement movement, thats fine but late game you should be able to at least function as a meatshield for your team to create space.
>>561164838Why is Mina D tier now, wasn't she S tier not long ago?
>>561165031Paradox is ass >but bombwalk out of it>but slowdispel magicanything annoying paradox can do every other hero can just do 9x better
>>561165110Hitting someone should give increasing movespeed as well as attack speed, also the m1s in wolf form should inherit melee bonuses and effects
>>561164234Look how they massacred Victor. Instead of being S tier he is merely A tier. So sad.
>>561164992its decent if you're new to mobas. otherwise if you aren't yeah its below average
do they need to buff GUNS? why is the game so strangely slanted towards spirit and burst? im new and i genuinely dont understand
>>561165265anime poster why are you so mindbroke by victor, it's almost always you seething to the ends of the earth
>>561165195Paradox swap into double bombs is 75% of your health gone with no counterplay. If shes ahead, it becomes an instant kill with no counterplay.
>>561165290I have 8k hours of Dota (Legend III rank, so not great in that either), so yeah... I'm trying to improve, but the overall ebb and flow of the game is still kind of foreign to me. Especially lane pressure. Like, it's SO fucking hard to know exactly when to back out when you don't have a birds-eye view of the map and people can just sneak up on you and ult.
>>561164941Bebop is just *Traps you in a corridor* not fun *spawns hordes of zombies* to play *locks you in a cuck dome* against *infinite hp tank respawns and stuns you* compared to *snipes you across the map* the rest of the heroes, he doesn't fit in. *misses hook, bombs dispelled*
NONSTOP SEX WITH VYPER
yoshi could make silver immune to damage during her ult and silver mains in /dlg/ would still bitch
>>561165374nta but he's still one of the highest winrates. what is your counter to that?
>>561165604don't let him farm, push the lane he is on and it's over for himbuy silence items just fight him he can't do anything
>>561165571>Smokes constantly>'Hey, babe, gotta go shank a guy in Harlem, can you give me some crack money? I'll pick some up for you while i'm there.'>Smokes it all before she gets back
>>561165110I think her ult resistances that she gets with tier 1 upgrade instead of being a raw percentage, should scale with boons. +20% is way too much in the early game, but in the late game it's nothing. If say, every 2 boons would give her +3%, she would have only 9% resistances at level 6, but 45% resistances at max level 30 which is pretty decent in late game.
>>561165016her kit unironically has less skill expression than moira/scarlet witch and yoshi had it right making her a d-tier training wheels character for your duo previously. Here she is looking at the hideout ceiling and still hitting the abrams dummy lel
How do you fix the visual bug where the ability point seems like it can't be spent?
that's funny... vyper is the least picked hero right now. she's easy and effective enough, but it's a snake girl wearing brown rags so she's in the dump
>>561165571Billy…
>>561165912She's kneecapped by the Neon Prime model but her kit is decent and her voicelines are sexo so once Icefraud gives her the XCUM2 treatment she'll shoot up in ranks. Sorta the same thing for Yamato.
>>561165708just to be clear; you're suggesting that him having the 7th highest winrate in eternus is because they dont know what theyre doing?
>>561165912shes boring and is just bad
>>561166053i'm not suggesting anything and speak only from my experience. i am not and will never be an eternus player and the way they play the game is different. ask an eternus player how they deal with victor, not me
>>561166014ahh, they're still both using the prealpha models? glad to hear that as they are both terrible to look at
>>561165912As other anon pointed out she looks pretty lame with her model but her voice is nice. If she got a tracksuit or something to reflect her criminal background it would be more appealing. Some mods already do a good job of this.
>>561165782How do you fix the bug where the shader compaling crashes and frame drops after every match?
>>561165236Or they could give her more stamina in the ult.
>>561164640How does her clothing stay on after ulting, have the devs expressed they will work on this immersion issue?
>I've become a Venator main since he came out, and last night I got a 4 kill collateral with his ult. And my team was glazing me hard. We ended up losing but...>Damn, that felt so good!Why are Metro subs like this?
When is Yoshi going to fix the ban system? I played with a full group of 6 and none of our bans actually went through.
>>561158082Web kidnapping is really the only way because he still doesn't scale for shit. So i can't wait for the patch that stops fountain doors so he's 100% useless endgame instead of just 90%
>>561166221something is fucked with the shaders because my 4090 was getting terrible performance and I had to fuck with the nvidia shaders cache to get a somewhat playable game. This started around the time venator/celeste would glitch out everyone and the server
R8 my roster
>>561157140Bandwagoning Vicniggas struggling with not being completely broken for once.
>>561166606High skill. Future pro player
>>561166606Meta slave/10All of these characters are strong.
>>561165912shes just haze/wraith but worse
>>561166606Genuine subhuman
If they removed Graves & Victor from the game it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Speaking from a purely objective standpoint.
>"hmm i kinda wanna play some deadlock">reinstall it>play one game>have a horrible time, remember why i uninstalled>uninstall again>repeat
>2 abandons into a 80k stompis it the weekend or the patch
>>561165912Her kit is not very interesting and sliding for 95% of a match is annoying, not fun.Hopoo saw the infinite ammo thing and decided he'd make an entire kit around it without considering that it's not enjoyable to play.
>>561167141Had two abandons in my phanton games, zero clue whats going on this never happens usually.
>>561165912she isn't played because other gun carries take far less effort to play both in micro and macro, why play a character that needs to do early ganks and transition into a gun carry constantly sliding when you can just LIFTING and YOU WILL BE JUDGED
>>561167141i havent seen an abandon for like 100+ hours at this point, im jealous. so many stomp matches i could avoid if people abandoned more this game really needs a surrender system
You already have retards begging the team to afk in fountain and pseudo-ff if surrender becomes a thing you would never hear the end of it.
>>561166483One of your friends is simply lying
What do you do against this comp
>>561167472>lose guardian>FF BRO JUST FF>FF OR I AFK
are they redoing greymane as well? he looks so shiti think warden ls boring as wellwarden, greymane, yamato, vyper... anyone else (have trash/boring designs)?
holy fucking shit why is the game so laggy
>>561167646who the fuck is greymane?
>>561167472it should be an option if you get to a certain threshold soul difference like 40 or 50k >b-b-b-but my hecking comeback!!! 90% of the time comebacks can only happen in shitlo lobbies
>>561167646grey talon*
Rem's got an ass on him don't he
>>561167845I don't care about the comeback but it will incentivize the already insane defeatist faggotry that exists. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy with these zero mental infinite estrogen hysterics.
Have they fixed the matchmaker yet, or am I going to still be put into phantom/oracle lobbies as an E2 still?
Mirage feels better now than he did when they buffed him. The scarab change is actual life steal instead of temporary stolen health.>>561167291I think a surrender system would only be good if implemented correct i.e if the enemy team has 30k soul lead.
>>561165708>don't let him farmKill yourself downplaying retard
>>561168065the defeatist mentality exists because matches are so long and feel so bad to lose. unless you fundamentally change the structure of the game it wont go away. nothing will change if you add a surrender system, people already either afk or mentally check out, which is just time wasting at that point
>just dont let him farmokay lets not nerf anyone from now on just dont let them farm bwo...
What Paige is reading?
how do i win games where my lane partner feeds relentlessly
>>561168327>>561168404do you guys just browl in mid or what
i no lonnger enjoy the gamethe fun is gone
>>561167205Sliding for ammo in general feels like such a fucking chore and it's very emblematic of how this game has no actual creative vision behind it and is just random shit thrown together trying to be a hero shooter in a saturated market.
>>561168348There is a reason why Dota never enabled it and it why it should never be added to Deadlock, it's like handing a rope to a tranny they will never use it for anything else except self harm.
>>561167575Follow the Mirage all game and farm him for easy kills.
>>561168519The latest work of the Hugo nominee Chuck Tingle.
>>561168727i havent played any other mobas, but i think it would help the health of this game a lot. but if it never got added to dota i assume it will never be in this one eitheralso why do you keep bringing up tranny shit, seems like you have some issues to work through
I HECKIN LOVE PLAYING AGAINST GRAVES WITH HER AUTO AIM GUNAUTO AIM SKULLSAUTO AIM ULTAUTO AIM WALLHER FREE INHIBITOR
>>561168727>There is a reason why Dota never enabled itBecause Icefrog thinks that a core part of the game is the humiliation ritual of being down 20k networth and being forced to let the enemy fountaincamp you until creeps end. Of course they conveniently allow this in pro play so it's not shown on mainstage at tournaments.
>>561168649the greatest filter
>>561168273The scarabs being actual lifesteal is a nerf. Now it's reduced by both spirit resist, and heal reduction. This is on top of how it's now applied over time so it takes longer to gain.
>>561168909her breakable skullsher killable minionsher short disarmable rangeher avoidable wallher breakable ultimate
okay graves being good is shit can we go back?
Does graves just straight up get a free trade now anytime she lands a grasping hands.
If you think your time is constantly being wasted and your matches are regularly so unwinnable that the game needs a surrender function then you should really just go play a game you actually enjoy.
>>561168865There is a lot of overlap between whining defeatist and delusional autogynephilia, and calling it out brings them out of the woodworks.
>>561169094if you aren't a m1gger you aint killing her minions especially the instaspawn ones from her t3 wall that do 50% of your health instantly
>>561168960>a core part of the game is the humiliation rituaYep. Part of what makes DOTA and this game so addictive is the slot machine extreme win or lose nature of matches. Either you stomp the enemy and feel like gods while they can do nothing, or you get stomped and feel like shit. You're always chasing that addictive high of stomping the shit out of your opponents.
>>561169091Not finding something fun is not the same as being unable to do it. I'm pretty sure a toddler could play pre-nerf Victor that doesn't make it fun.
>>561169192You know you can just spam light melee to kill them instantly right?
>>561169316zombies not skuls
>>561169316you're confusing skulls with zombies, understandable since graves rots the brain
>>561168557>guys laning phase is over lets go gank victor so he can't farm up>kill him in jungle>he has ult up so he revives>his team has arrived because it's their jungle and now it's a losing teamfight>victor's farm isn't even interrupted
>>561169173you honestly just sound like a repressing tranny, why do you know what autogynephilia is. that's some arcane /lgbt/ bullshit
I cant blame people for wanting to FF when its common for lanes to go 0-10+ and let the enemy roam for free hunting down non-NPCs while not shoving objectives on the other side of the map.
>>561169409Not being a retarded nigger allows for general knowledge. End of interview.
>>561169504uh huh
>>561169396who said anything about going in his jungle jesus christ, just push the lane he is on and try to gank him there while he farms the troopersjungle is worthless, if you have someone that can clear fast and escape take the enemy jungle if your team has control over the mapits really not that hard
>>561167646>greymanehello fellow hots enjoyer>>561167472game isn't over until it's overpeople would rather cry and quit than acknowledge the problem and fix it
>Shoot Abrams once>WHY WONT ABRAMS DIE!!!!?!?
>>561169725I mean if I shot a guy once and he didn't even care I'd react like that
Game has been paused
Every character has a disingenuous retarded downplay argument that is easy to say, hard to actually do in a real game.>Just parry the viscous>Just knockdown the McGinnis>Just stay away from MoeEtc...Graves has always had a bunch of these stuffed into her kit, the only one that's advice that actually work is "just melee skulls", but Graves can still make skulls cancer by going echo shard.The REAL anti-graves tech is "Just play a aerial character."
>>561169725HE JUST KEEPS CUMMING
What did Mina do to Graves to make her hate her so much?
>>561170564bully her for not showering
hour long game just to lose danig
>Graves maxes 2 and 4 >Gets a grasping hands off and throws down atombstone>4 suicide bombers on top of someone>????>Success.Such heavy AP investment for a gimmick but imagine the seethe.
Why does the ragdoll physics in this game feel so floaty and bad? They implemented it way better 20 years ago in Half Life 2 and TF2.
Mina should be dommed by a big werewolf pussy
>>561170564Mina and her stacy friend group "bullied" her (sexual)
I think I'm unironically carried by the character. Not my fault she has the best designed kit in the game by far.
>>561165912When the game came out vyper was played like every game
>>561165451E-shift cuckolds her entirely.
>>561171237When the game came out... vyper didn't exist
>Decide to take a break until they nerf wraith and calico because I'm sick of seeing them every game.>New patch comes out>Nerfs them and all the problem childs I had an issue with.>"Oh coo-">Graves buff that makes her even more cancer>Her pick rate is skyrocketing
Which hero do I play if I want to do funny and silly shit to people?
mystic slow gotta go bro. character like ivy, kelvin and miku buying it makes the game unplayable
there's an anon arguing the victor is in the gutter now that he has 52%+ winrate in eternus. imagine that
Absolute Dynamo victory
>>561171779>buys enduring speed...?
>>561171775Sinclair or Viscous
>>561171775doorman is the official
>>561171890>so now instead of being slowed by 70% you're slowed by 60%!woah great counter buy
i love my little saddam hussein
>>561170875hot
>>561171779Kelvin in particular with his ricocheting no fun allowed beam is super ebola aids>Mystic slow>Supressor>HealbaneEnjoy
wanna learn this guy but scared I'll be absolute monkey brain on him and contribute nothing
How does anyone enjoy playing as MnK he's just Dynamo but somehow even more one-note
>rape some cocky apollo thinking he's tough shit in lane>you may leave now>vindicta disconnectedNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>561172109undying rapeman of carry destruction
>>561172090ivy is really bad too>already 35% slow base before mystic slow>mile wide>dash out of it>LOL VORTEX WEB>now cant really dash and even slower>now you're stunned by her statue AND rootedwhat a fun character to play against
>>561172108>spam bell>ult staminalet or someone you want out of a fight>cart niggers away from you
BRO WHAT IF REM COULD PUSH YOUR TOWERS WITH HELPERS ALONE BRO?????WHAT IF GRAVES COULD JUST FUCKING PUT HER NIGGERSTONE IN A LANE AND YOU'D HAVE TO SIT IN IT FOR AN HOUR BROHUH????
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but the twitter account @deadlock was taken down (not by them). It might be nothing or it might be valve starting a media push for the game soon, to be determined.
>>561171843>a fucking bebop player complaining about a braindead kitdid the victor players jump ship or something
>>561172665That sounds pretty funny they should implement that.
>>561172843tbf 95% of the abilities in this game are braindead
>>561161803Abrams was always a better Victor but he's allowed to be overtuned for reasons.
the powercreep in the last few updates has been unreal to watch. looking forward to the next patch’s retarded bullshit like making binding word build up on hit or something
how come i pick victor and always get him but i high prio infernus and have to play other people half the time. no one bans infernus and even fewer people pick him
>>561158505You're griefing the entire lobby. Nobody likes Viscous.
still confused why they buffed celeste
they gotta revert the ivy changes from the 3/6 patch, she's so fucking unfun to play against now. her ult is probably the most aids shit in the game right now
>>561165912>it's a snake girl wearing brown rags so she's in the dumpThey're going to turn her into a lamia anime girl, trust the plan
>>561173545they need to revert most of the character they changed. i have no idea what they were thinking with that patch when the game was in a pretty good state except for some outliers
Graves might be the first character ever with actual 0 skill expression in a pvp game
>>561173804That's mohammed and kareemAt least graves rewards good macro and splitpushing. That means you have to read the map (something mo players find impossible)
>>561173715the pseud explanation for it is they were trying to give older characters more of an """identity""" but it turns out that identity was being pure fucking cancer to play against
>>561172665single tombstone in lane isn't that bad, her insta win triple hands+double tombstone pit fight carpet bombing is the actual cancer
That 2024 vibe when people were just having fun shooting stuff is nearly extinct in 6v6 while 4v4 is always Paige spam.People are just taking this janky game way too seriously.
>>561174020Well the difference is back then the game was very closed off. Now even though the game is in invite only alpha anyone and everyone can get in. The game is only getting more popular and every zoomzoom who doesn't want to wageslave is sweating their ass off in hopes they'll climb enough to go pro.
>>561160767Calm down Mina!
>>561174020>game is balanced around the opinions of retarded streamers and compfags>game becomes shitwho could have ever predicted this? impossible to see coming
>>561174440the game would benefit from more custom lobby support or server lists idk
>>561159357Cute & Canon
i wish we had a few more doomer posters because "dead game dead lock" goes hard and i'd smirk every time someone posted it
>>561174020People were always autistic and mad only difference now is that there are a lot of more leaguebabies
>>561174864>replay
>>561171101what do you build? she changed so much that if i try anything besides melee which i mastered like 2 years ago i do poorly
>>561156824Playable but still easily counterable, most fags last thread exposed themselves as seekers because they all build her wrong and complain about the weakest parts of her kit lmao
>>561175068NTA but kudzu spam is so braindead easy with echo shard and vortex you don't even need greens
>>561174594it's been years and these buttholes don't add a simple chat system in the custom match screen like come on.
>>561164640>I don't think there is a way to make her ult not terrible.I don't understand why you think that to be quite desu. Other melee range heroes do fine.We've already seen her ult was fine on release, it was fun and strong. It required countering but that countering was available, and yes it was available to every heroShe just needs less damage in human form and to get her baseline resists back in wolf form, she'd be absolutely fine then
>>561172115they actually did such a good job with apollo. i cant see him in lane and not assume the player is some cocky retard. perfectly suits the character
>>561175275emissary shitter here, how do I build graves?
>>561174020>>561174440this literally never happened get your head out of your arse, people were autistic about matches back then as they were now, infact i'd argue it was even worse because retards back then were autistic about trying to figure out their hidden MMR via rain dances>guys my match had 1 spectator that means i'm high mmr>yoooo one of my matches was on the spectate front page I'm top 1% unlike you plebs>omg i was in the same match as *discord eceleb* im really high rank now
How do I counter Lycan?
>>561175349My favorite part was all the shitters finding out they had garbage hello kitty mmr and downplaying it only to find out it was actually somewhat accurate once real ranks were established
Can I ask who is Miku
>>561175480mcginnis yamato used to call her miku
>>561175068I run this, but I'm still changing the build around often. Stone form spam is fun, but it's difficult to fit actives into this build, so it's probably not optimal.
>>561175480Careful! Miku Ginnis
>>561175429Disarming hex for her ult and I think reactive barrier for her bola
>>561175275okay so how do you build graves properly
hedih teh grennidge
>>561175561oh it's just the TP radiant slop build, i forgot about it lol
>>561175349You now remember Nekoscore
>vyper complains about doorman making it into a match despite banning him>i make a pun about him finding another way in>no one laughsdo i leave
>>561175480Yamato's old VA called McGinnis Mikuginnishttps://youtu.be/S1ULhmBkWjE
>>561175349>those stupid niggers who kept trying to argue with me that healing wasn't good like their lives depended on itGood times, good times
Can I get back the Yamato line where she gives up on saying McGinnis's name and just says kill her
>>561175561>buy when you're feeling evil or upsetI guess I'm always evil and upset every single game. I WILL make the enemy carry's life miserable.
>>561175761this is probably one of the most racist games on the market other than old school runescapebased valve
>>561175761Apparently all the Japs were cringing at how dogshit her nipponese was but to me that just makes it more funny
had a 66 minutes match that ended on a loss but it was so fucking funny i'm not even mad
>>561175910How is osrs racist when it literally has black and chinese elves
>>561162889They're silverfags what do you expect?
>>561175561>>561175680also isn't spirit strike good with the stone form T3 change now? and i was going to complain about arcane surge because for the longest time it had a bug with stone form that made it so it didn't actually do anything for it BUT THEY FUCKING FIXED IT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT HOLY SHIT IT'S BEEN A THING FOR SO LONG #UNRAPEYOSHI
>>561175962karamja is literally a racist cariacture of africa
>>561175429Silver Edge disables his passive.
How much of the matchmaking is cope and how much is it actually bad right now? This is my first MOBA and I'm feeling pretty burnt out this past month. Gone from a having mostly good games to a 30% winrate shitfest. Most games feel over by the 15 minute mark. If you wind up with the bottom 2 skill players your team is just toast.
>>561175919it had to do with neon prime yamato's lore so I like to believe it was shit on purpose
Is it me or has anyone else been getting people leaving their games? It use to be never be like this.
>>561168909
>>561175761>>561175910No. Deadlock is not beating OW in how unintentionally racist that game was.>Every asian person are wall climbing magic ninjas>Thai dude is a fruity androgynous bisexual twink
>>561176330Matchmaking is genuinely fucked, sometimes i get people that randomly just stand still or move like they are playing with a playstation controller who are very clearly new or handicapped and shouldnt be remotely close to my mmr range.Matchmaking just throws newfags into the fire.
i think im about to have 2k dmg total in this brawl (doorman)
>disable chat>disable voice>game is 20x more enjoyableat last I truly see
>>561176071It's pretty good,yeah. I figured that mystic vuln is better as a general purpose debuff that builds into a stronger item in (very) late game, but taking advantage of your light melee (t1-2) or HM opportunities on T3 is nice too.As for Arcane surge, I mostly use it for Kudzu instead of Stone Form.
>>561176421all the mentally deranged terminally online people have infested this game for awhile and is only gonna grow faster so now it's a coin flip who has someone rage quit first after going 0/5 in lane
is Life Drain Geist viable?
>>561175349>it was even worse because retards back then were autistic about trying to figure out their hidden MMR via rain dancesKek those days were really fucking funny. So many delusional tards thinking tracklock wasn't lying to them with shoddy info. I blame that site for giving my friend a deadlock addiction bro really thought he was gonna go pro when it told him he was better than 75% of the player base. (no one knew how to play at the time lol)
>>561174096
>>561175739What if someone did laugh but were just shy anon? I giggle at bants all the time but I never mic that shit, gotta keep the "strong silent type" larp. you feel me?
>>561175739i laughed
>>561175347I'm not sharing but just don't go full spirit retardation, she's not a mage/spirit hero like paige or dyanmo your tombstones/zombies are useless if you're not nearby to capitalise on them, build a few greens and oranges
>>561175781I kinda miss ugly ivy ngl. She looks like an actual monster here.
>>561176934>haze's big fat nuts slamming against vindicta's defenceless chinhot
>>561177389Yeah I liked her more when she was uglycute compared to just cuteStill, she's OK as she is now. I just thank fucking god they didn't go with the almost cat-looking design
>character leaves random pool of spirit slop on the floor>instantly meltgod i love spirit so muchwhat a fun thing to lose to
>>561177093you are cute and petite
>>561177389There's this mod that tries to merge old and new.
>>561176823I could maybe seeing it worthwhile to max it as your second skill if the enemy has two characters that want to get in your face. But even then the ulti would be priority.
the biggest proof that m1ggers lack proper human brain development is they never played the floor is lava and are physically uncapable of avoiding shit on the ground
Guys quick do you have that picture in which Slork says keep slorking to Silver?
>>561177704
>>561177093well how am i supposed to know that, you guys are talking unlike the people in my game... and same, i am like that usually but the opportunity to make the pun was there so i took it. also another opportunity to make a pun showed up in the very next game and they also did not acknowledge it>>561177165thanks bro
>>561177534>I just thank fucking god they didn't go with the almost cat-looking designcontext?
>>561177738thank god everything in this game is 5 billion aoe right?
Promoted to initiate 6 playing my wife silver! Almost to seeker wish me luck anons!
>>561177704>>561177929Wow, this is perfect. Like, actually perfect.
>>561177956scrapped ivy almost everyone hated>>561178026c-cute
>>561177704I don’t like her tail. It looks like a sex toy
Agree or disagree?In solo queue, carries will always have a higher winrate than supports because carries have more agency. It's easier to win as a good carry with shitty supports than a good support with shitty carries.
>>561176663>sometimes i get people that randomly just stand still or move like they are playing with a playstation controllerI keep getting people like this and they are often on haze or rem. Not sure if controllers should be allowed in this type of game because your throwing against anyone who isn't using one as well.
>graves in every single match noware these devs incapable of making a balanced game? it feels like every single patch, a batch of heroes are just obscenely strong
>>561178362disagree, you're right they have more agency but you can't 1vs6 all game in deadlock especially if your team goes 0/50, both roles need the team to at least be functional to do their thing
>>561178424>bro its in alpha bro they're just testing bro they have to make obviously retarded balance changes that ruin the game every patch because uh they need the data bro
>>561177389Most people won't admit it but I think she was more popular when she was uglier. She just looks like a weird lizard cat thing now>>561177704This is pretty good
so whats stopping geist from just swapping someone's HP at a super low amount and just instakilling them
>>561177534>I just thank fucking god they didn't go with the almost cat-looking designfr that shit was horrid. I feel bad for the modeler who put a lot of work into it but it just wasn't a step in the right direction for her character.
>>561178362Yeah even a godly dynamo that lands all the ults can't do shit if their team doesn't follow up and the same goes for paige, rem and kelvinIvy and viscous can still carry hard with specific builds so I don't consider them the same
>>561178424they're fucking retardedlike literal fucking braindead tier retardedthey keep buffing the most unfun fucking shit to play against and the gayest fucking items like toxic bullets(which regularly does more damage than most abilities)
>doorman has a melty in chat and then leaves the game because I keep calling him dorkmanFeels good to be me.
>>561178424Just dash away it's really not that hard, or play vindicta/apollo if she's actually in every single match dumbass
>>561178424Meta slaves have zero standards and will instantly flock to the new character that 5% bigger balls and 2% extra height.
>>561178657The same thing that's stopping haze from stealthing up to you, sleep dagger + slowing hex + ult. Nothing, that's what they're designed to do
just remove the melee requirement for tombstone, there she's fixed
>>561178780>doorman talking shit about lash of all peopleThese ""people"" are fucking pathetic, mind you ivy is broken but at least she's having fun instead of crying in all chat
>>561156270good pic
>>561178934>Finally chase down the tombstone in the corner>Graves stands on top of it and holds m1Ebin :DDDDD
>Just get metal skin, bro!It turns out it was the Haze players suggesting this after all
Vindicta is cute and funny.
>>561178780>dorkman lmfao
uh oh... im actually enjoying doorman. sorry to whoever has me on their team
>>561159991calico
>>561179080Winning teams rarely buy Metal Skin
>>561178990on-fire Ivy has such a massive shit-eating grin that you just know that whoever is playing her is having the most fun in the lobby.
>>561179092she is kind of a killjoy actually
>>561178362supports just aren't a threat on their own and don't drive the game in any impactful wayyou can cover lanes, you can set up kills, you can handle objectives, but no amount of handholding will win you the game if your team is incapable of capitalizing on your advantageit's almost better to hard pivot from support into pseudo carry when it's clear you aren't getting anywhere
>>561179080item win rates will never be accurate because you're mostly buying things like glass canon while ahead and metal skin and cursed relic to try to disable a strong enemy after they already impacted the game
i KNOW doorman's bussy is smooth, shaven, and pink i NEED to see drifter stretch him
>>561179194because they are the ones with haze on their team
I know for a fact that Mina would spend hours looking at bat videos on tiktok
>>561179579sis...
>>561176623One thing I find weird about Overwatch's world is how all the third world countries of today are super duper futuristic utopias in Overwatch. But the weird part is that while there are loads of ethnic characters from places like Canada, England, America. There isn't a single white person from one of these ex-third world countries. Basically saying that despite being these super utopias, no one seems to emigrate there. There are 3 characters born in Canada and they're all brown. China is like a sci fi country in Overwatch but you wouldn't catch anyone who isn't Chinese moving there for some reason. Actually, India leads the world in hard light technology and a new hero is a rich CEO woman who was born in the UK and moved to a city in India called "Utopea"—her name? Varia Singhania, who speaks hindiIt's like they want it to be woke fiction in all things but forget how these things can contradict each other.
>>561178780Her stupid fucking face sends me
>>561178362Agree. I win more on carry heroes than supports. The average Deadlock player is retarded.
>>561157258>t. gun graveswow amazing, no one thought to stack a bunch of t4 items and make a unkillable autoaimmer
>>561179579i’m drifter
>>561179660i bet he wears lingerie under that suit. i need to see his supple, slightly feminine (but with an unmistakeable twinge of masculinity), smooth body broken by drifter and his big, ugly, unwashed, homeless cock
>>561162837hybrid
>>561179679She has by far the best smug portrait in the game.
>>561179915holy calm down paige
Alright nigs lets self report here, what's your go to downplay for your main?>Abrams >Bro just double jump or wall bounce out of the way of his shoulder charge >Bro just buy heal bane ,toxic bullets, debuff reducer (so you can parry after the charge) >Bro just buy tank buster I'm well aware my big blue man is yoshi's pet and I am unashamed.
I come back for a single game so I can finally rage into uninstalling and they treat me like this. Why does Valve act like druglords selling their shit to fools like me?
>>561179679On one hand her gloat doesn't fit her personality at all, on the other>>561180024
they need to acknowledge damage taken on the leaderboard, if i get chain ulted for the entire match that should be acknowledged
why do so many black people play this game
>>561180163>Oh dear, I've fallen down and the Baroness won't let me in, I hope that brute Drifter doesn't take advantage of my vulnerable lesser-god boypussy
>>561179835>15m rangeas if you can't just dash away>"stack" t4 itemsas if each one didn't cost 6.4K
HOLY SHIT BRO ADD DRAFTIT'S BEEN 10 GAMES SINCE I'VE ROLLED MINA PLEASE
>>561180380someone randomly gifted it to me one day but i don't think we're THAT common
I love graves. Her auto aim lets me keep up with the zoomers.
>>561180694Utterly MOGGED by stacywolf
>>561180182>>Abrams>>Bro just double jump or wall bounce out of the way of his shoulder chargeToo high skill for me desu, i just keep my distance and buy healbane, he can't do shit if you're not in his face>what's your go to downplay for your main?I have none, ivy's stone farm gives her i-frames that dodge every ult in the game heals her and stuns YOU so you're kicked out of YOUR ult, and that's just 1 of her abilities on a 10 second cooldown>>561180224>he came backnow apologise for throwing a fit last thread, say "im sorry"
>ran into an actually good mo and krillhe is fucking UNKILLABLE what the FUCK
>>561180380niggas love to play videogames with guns or balls in em
>>561180694>he still hasn't drawn any actual Deadlock porn (excluding the futaslop)
>>561179665anon finds out about appealing to target demographic
>>561180694>I love graves.Same>>561180753She's mogged by mina too how tiny is this femcel gooner?
>>561180821GET'EM MO
>>561180383i would gape more doormans if they would just stop sending me into purgatory u_u
>want to play vindicta>remember that I can't aimI hate being aimlet so much, I can play like 3 characters maybe
>>561180860the futaslop is why i keep tabs on afroGAWD
will a 'friendly' luggage cart still hit enemies?
is seven a good hero for solo carrying games? ive heard hes easy and can farm a lot with his big fat balls
Why is Seven LE BAD for wanting to become a god? People just got in his way.
>>561178362I agree. I prefer to play heroes that are functional with less farm, but the only support items I buy are offensive ones that also enable myself, like Knockdown, Focus Lens, Slowing Hex etc. You just aren't winning if you try to enable retards with healing or barrier who don't push lanes before going for objectives or don't avoid fighting when they don't have an advantage. But if I climb enough ranks for people to get basic macro down it probably changes things.
no thoughts, head bnuuywhy are sinclairs like this, kek
>>561180860That's futaKINO to you
>>561181023NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ACHIEVE APOTHEOSIS>why not?B-B-BECAUSE.... YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY?
>>561180940no
>>561163526Infernus's DoT build will never be good until they change the way it interacts with Dispel Magic/Plated Armour and fall-offFinally landing a burn after mag dumping multiple times on a beefy fucker with Plated only to have them insta-purge it is pure pain.Dash build cannot be completely shut down in the same way so it's always going to be the go-to.
>>561180753she’s not a stacy at all. she calls mina a stacy as an insult. cause mina makes her feel insecure and is probably why she hates (wants) all stacies.
>>561181021He's one of the if mot the stronger character late game, aiming helps
>>561180902What do you even mean by this? The target demographic of "people who like it when brown people are from white countries but no white people from brown countries"?
>>561181167>says she hates stacy>actually is oneThis is almost as deep as her being a werewolf and being named Silver
Gloria las plagas!
>>561181072he owes tax money
>>561181081What a fucking save>>561181167>she’s not a stacy at allShe's a muscular confident 190 cm tall woman, if she's not a stacy no one is
>>561156270someone explain bullet resist shredder to me for Wardenit doesn't feel like a big upgrade but everyone says it's very good
>>561180936>>561181051I feel like every update the amount of faggots in this general doubles.
>>561180380it's free to play and has guns in it
>>561179080Metal skin works when it works. You buy this item when you are behind. Your win rate will probably be even lower without it.
>>561181081ah cool thx
>>561181259how though? she’s dirty, stinks, probably has bad alcoholic breath, and is taller than most menstacies are traditionally hyperfeminine
>>561181051HOLY THIS
>>561179915me but i want to see victor being torn apart and tortured by the doorman
>pick graves>enemy has Abrams, Kelvin, Infernigger and ViscousI have a feeling Yoshi hates her
>>561181446>most gun upgrades already give you less than +10% damage like BRS does>resist shred scales multiplicatively with +% damage anyway, once you stack some +% damage you need other scalers>shred also gets even more effective for your total damage output if the enemy actually buys resists for you to shred>warden has some decent spirit scaling anyway so it's not like getting a purple is a waste, especially if you end up going merc mag >and double especially if you get shield T3 so purples almost become greensAll around good item on warden
>>561180835the big 3 are guns, balls, and the last slot being whores or a car
>>561181243third world countries and foreigners in video games are added to games to make the game's setting/characters feel exotic to timmys because those are your main audience.little timmy doesn't want to play a game where wypipo are the 2nd class citizens and minority. otherwise you end up with games that lives rent free in /v/'s head for a couple of years and doesn't sell for shit because said minority doesn't play or buy games.
>>561179665Even if third world countries became MORE advanced than western countries that does not imply that western countries go back to being agrarian societies with explosive population growth that could sustain large scale outflows, let alone enough to put an ethnic dent in the billion plus populations of China or India.
it seems like gunbuild sort of works on any hero w/ a decent gun, even if they dont have special scaling
>>561179665White people are nearly extinct in Overwatch. We're on the right side of herstory.
>>561181606>and is taller than most menThat's the best part, and the part that fake stacies can't stand.This guy >>561181438 is right, and I'd also add that she has a head of hair any chick would (should) be jealous of
I've noticed there's a lot of seethe in this thread about Graves lately. Is it 1 shitter or is she actually evil hitler now?Won't stop playing her, by the way.
man dashfernus is so annoying to play against why does that nigger's trali have a vertical hitbox
>>561182136>Is it 1 shitter or is she actually evil hitler now?It can be both
>>561182136I don't think Graves is particularly strong but she's one of the most annoying heroes to play against and every aspect of her kit is braindead
Playing support is actually a kick to the nuts. Tardwrangling is just too much for me.
>>561181989If the hero can farm camps and isn't too immobile, which given the player is good enough just means 3+ stamina and not in the bottom bucket anything with decent gun works.
>>561182338Is it really that bad?I wanted to try out Kelvin
They should remove rebuttal and make parries stun for shorter duration if you get hit when there's less time left on the parry.
What's a good post patch Celeste build? Gun?
>>561182121>that videonow kith
>>561182568Thanks for your input, Abrams/Billy main
>>561182569>her most spammable ability (3) is given double spirit scaling>this nigga thinks gun is the way
>>561181081DOORCHAD
>>561182492At least do so in a duo.
kill whoever made splatter t5 bounce base
>>561182569>they add gun damage dropoff and buff her skill numbers>"UH SHOULD I BUILD GUN CELESTE GUYS??"
>>561181853Oh okay you're just a retard talking nonsense>>561181881In Overwatch Australia is literally a war torn apocalyptic wasteland. And Thailand, Vietnam and India are literally tech superpowers.Guess Aussie refugees just aren't a thing
I WILL NOTFAILNASHALLAHNNNNGGGHHHRAAAAAAAAHH
>>561182569I don't think her builds changed besides Spiritual Overflow and Spellslinger becoming better luxury items for her.
>>561181478>mentally ill degenerateJust like my wife silver
>>561162837If you don't want to snipe, you need rapid recharge at least to tag with your ult for the stacks. quicksilver is useful for fast reload. You need greens too or you'll die. At that point the only thing you're missing from a hybrid build is boundless. Though, given Assassinate does good damage point blank with no wind up time you might as well grab improved spirit in the mid game.Real spirit vini is more of a support build.
>>561181990This. So. Much. This. We could have had this if you just Pokemon got to the fucking polls, but you had to stay home and let the Trumpanzees win.>>561182136People will always hate the playerbase of an autoaim character (just look at Moira and Scarlet Witch) for being aimlets, it's just how it is
>>561183074FOR DE DJINN
I don't ever want to press m1What hero do I play
>>561182136ghoulmaxxing echo shard grasp is probably the most annoying thing to get caught by. She REALLY punishes for not buying early spirit defense now
>>561183570Victor or paige
>>561183570bebop, but unironically
>>561183074>>561183558why his voice lines are so kino
>>561181772>not vindicta dyanmo and apollo or fucking mo and krillWhat are you even complaining about just play defensively and you should be fine>>561182136>Is it 1 shitteryes, the same one who used to say "auto aim characters SHOULD be bad" and was happy that she was the worst character in the game next to aladin>is she actually evil hitler now?Not really, her zombies went from 3 at 8 ability points to 4, which is 1 zombie increase but the cuck will still complain>Won't stop playing her, by the way.Based
>>561183435oh and you'll probably also want the purple shredder
>>561182136I just find her annoying as fuck
>>561182136she is like 60% winrate in brawl and i cry about her in brawl
>>561183652Did you edit her nose to make her ugly or is this artist retarded?
is going through counterspell withdrawal a rite of passage in this game? i have awoken to how useful it is and sorely miss it to the point that i try and parry obviously normally unparryable shit when i don't have it, such a fun item
>doorcel caught lacking without his ult to save him>mfw as warden it's rape time
>>561183570Dyanmo, paige, viscous, potentially spirit seven but you could do more if you actually aim and shoot.Basically any hero with big fat skills
I watched eido play mina after the patch and he is saying she was promoted to position 1-2. What does it really mean for her playstyle?So no longer she is about roaming the map and looking for picks and she is supposed to stay on side lanes and farm as much as possible?
>>561183880>graves>paige>infernus>[free slot]I know I wont be enjoying the match
where is my fat chud sonhave YOU seen him?
>>561184181
>>561181081i had no idea doorman could do that HOLY
>Half my big tiddy naked mods broke this morning for no reason>Half of them have 'updated' >Update didn't fix any of them>This happens every other week>All the 4 month old 'Dynamo but he has a hawaiian shirt on' or 'Viscous but orange juice' have never been updated but still work fine. I'm no big city ai slop prompter but surely the people that make gooner mods can do better.
>>561175910Yamato's Japanese engrish is really funny and her outfit being some ridiculous purple samurai armor for some reason makes it even better. If she was any other ethnicity people would definitely cry about it.
>>561184358sadly there is not much use for it since you push an ally away from you, which means to save them from something involves you having to get in between them and whatever is killing them, which is dumb and retarded
>>561184181is it me
>>561184371the LORD is crying out to you anon to STOP gooning
without a doubt the worst player I've ever seen in asc eu
>>561184371thought i was in another general for a second, but based game. gooning is bad for you
>Bells shouldn't be allowed to do dmg>Cart into spawn/walker is seen as bs>gunmanSo what should this character do /dlg/?
>>561184181this is you?
>activate Metal Skin>still take a billion damage from Infernus passive + Toxic Bulletsvery fun
>>561184657
THIS NIGGER FAGGOT GAME IS SO FUCKING TRASH HOLY FUCKWASTE OF TIME 50M GAME WHILE STILL IN LOW PRIO QUEUE FAGGOTS TELLING COMMANDS ON VOICE WHILE HAVING 40K PLAYER DMG AS FUCKING HAZEKILL ANYONE WHO ENJOY THIS TRASHHANG THE DEVSBUTCHER TROONS
>>561184803i cant give a proper opinion because doorman is either a worthless -1 on the team or an actual god character with zero in between so idk what he actually is supposed to do
>>561184803Open doors
>>561184878>metal skin vs inferniggerretard
>>561184931>lost against a 22k damage doorman with the worst build ive ever seen
>>561184931>50 min game>50k souls Gravesyou fucked up
>>561184931i don't even know what that rank is but i know it is a shitter rank
>>561184803You can either make him do damage and take away portals, or keep portals and he isn't aloud to do damage. A character with long range free escape that is also one of the best combo pieces in the game also shitting out damage is inherently toxic.
>>561184878Next time you die to infernus, look at the color of the damage retard.
>>561185106we couldn't farm for the last 20m.
are there somewhere pngs of those ingame ads?
>>561184931why the fuck did you build healbane and never replace it witth toxic bullets or inhibitorretard, deserved loss
>>561180182>what's your go to downplay for your main?>LashCounterspell, any spirit burst resistance, and staying near geometry to hide from deathslam. Surprisingly if you REALLY wanna fuck him over then knockdown.IMO he needs buffs still.>Silver>Human formKeep your distance and dodge bola. She's useless without slam fire and bola. Also just generally keep track of where she is while she's roaming.>Wolf formA disarm cucks her so bad it's not even funny. Also having better movement than her helps.
>>561185085>Healing tempo on doorfagLiterally what did he mean by this?
>>561185140It's ritualist 3 so yeah shitlow postings lmao
>>561184349this makes me laugh every damn time
>>561181045>Sinclaire grabbing bunny Mina and stuffing her into a sock to swing at walls and.
>>561185458get on it, drawfriends
>graves crouches inside her tomestone while sucking me off>can't shoot her because it blocks bullets>can't break tomestone because she parriesgenuine what the fuck am i supposed to do as an m1gger?
>>561185140>>561185380retards spottedhave you seen rank distribution for deadlock?your rank means jackshit and you are pretty much guaranteed oracle+ if you started early
>>561181045get real
>>561181045AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>561185537it doesnt block bullets
>>561185537>graves crouches inside her tomestone while sucking me offcalm down apollo wtf
>>561185059>>561185239huh
>>561185553yet you can't even make it to oracle, sad!
>>561181045>"New York will be mine!">The menacing Sinclair with a claw hammer
nothing is more satisfying than raping a paige as silver (in brawl). NOTHING.
>>561179579>>561179915>Drifter moves in grabs him by waist.>Rips the uniform cloth like some stupid kid would tear off christmas gift wrapper>Suddenly, he stops, withdraws his hand and lets poor sevice industry professional fall to the ground>*Camera changes perspective to show what he sees*>There's a teal sigil/tattoo inscribed on his lower back, same as in the forehead of certain popular ixian cabaret performer>Drifter seethes uncontrollably as he flees from the building, cursing the fact that there doesn't seem to be single twink in the entire city that hasn't been claimed by Cadence and her unreasonably large, flared ixian third leg
>>561184878
>>561181045>crouching in ambush on top of the small camp sandbagskek
silver build??
>>561181045KEK this mina is never going to feel safe around a small camp ever again LOL
god damn i hate having to be patient waiting for them to update this game, theres still so much missing but i want it all now, right now
>>561185323no souls nigger, stop defending a dogshit game
wonder when they'll overhaul all the ability/item icons
>>561185691>Shiv with bag naturals isn't real he can't hurt you
>>561185717it wasn't me nigger and you still took his bait
>>561185324>Lash I agree he does need some buffs I feel like I never see lash anymore in ranks where people buy counterspell. I don't even play the asshole but I like how he kept my team on their toes.
>>561184878Metal skin stops the bullet damage, of which Infernus does fuck all. It doesn't stop build-up effects.Buy plated/dispel magic and Infernus will never do damage to you for the rest of the game.
>>561185801If we didn't already know the troubadour is male and probably 500 years old it would be really funny if she was Troubadour.
>>561184079>So no longer she is about roaming the map and looking for picks and she is supposed to stay on side lanes and farm as much as possible?Yeah, basically it. But she should've been played like that in the first place. Her entire kit is item-hungry.
return fire needs a buff, i know the m1niggerschizo agrees with me here
can someone hook me up with a mo and krill build
gonna try this for graves
>>561186891even if you buy all green you're still going to be useful desu
>>561184878Anon nigfernus does spirit damage with the burn metal skin does nothing against that, plated armor or dispell magic would've been better
>>561186937i don't like torment pulse on graves, i think there are better purples to buy. consider quicksilver reload or surge of power.
>>561185857>>561186661>>561187132what if the infernus naruto runs what will help me there
>>561186937TP isn't very good on her, get point blank if you just want more close range damage. I'd also replace spirit burn with siphon bullets
>>561186784yeah50% bullet damage returned50% spirit damage returned12 seconds duration
>>561186937Looks promising. let's see what this Litch hand can do!
>>561187276functioning brain that supposed to tell you "don't stand on burning ground"
>>561187194>>561187315i picked torment pulse because some top eternus graves main picked it https://statlocker.gg/profile/147743012/matches however he doesn't go ricochet or inhibitor which i found weird
>>561187276Depending on the where you are the map you can just wall bounce till it goes away. indoors can get tricky if ceiling isn't high enough though.
>>561187604this is the correct way to improve btw, look at what good players are doing and ignore the thread every time.
>90% of Eternus players still buy torment pulse on ApolloSo even after the nerfs, it's still a must have?
>>561187845a lot of eternus players are just as retarded about items as you or me, they just make up for it with good aim/movement/rotations
>>561187845there isnt exactly a plethora of spirit items that do damage to choose from.
>every top tier hero now is just some variation of a broken DoT buildwhy
After three (3) games lost to Graves (she takes skill guys I swear) I then lost to a gun Rem cheesing the fuck out of the plap plap candle faggoty weapon.Every match there's some annoying faggotry on the enemy team designed to stop me from having any fun.This game just makes me angry nowadays. It's already suffering from ridiculous powercreep and it isn't even released yet.
Billy would be more setting appropriate if he was a redneck instead of a punk.Paige's skirt should reach her knees as it's too whorish for a librarian.Rem is too much quirky chungus and too little cryptid creature, though he does look otherworldly compared to everything else. He'd benefit from some grunge and grime.
>>561187604TP procs EE which is great when combined with skulls, but I don't think it's worth going for that before even toxic. I'd have to watch a replay of that guy playing to really see what is happening. But you should give it a try yourself and see if it works, if you think it's fun definitely go for it
>>561187845You can buy egg only on Apollo and win, doesn't mean much.
>>561188114>losing to a gun rem>losing to graveslol
>play support>set team up really well in laning, midgame etc>they just flat out ignore basic call outs I make>we lose the game because of itsick of this happening. fuck overwatch players. all subhuman.
>mentally ill gravesfag woke upoh wow i can't wait till he starts blogging about all the matches he gets raped in or how he got so angry he abandoned a match for the next 6 hours.
>>561188259Gun anything is better in general, even after the last patches. It's a faster and more consistent source of damage. Add autoaim to the mix and you got your easy mode character for retards.
>click avoid graves because she’s unga>she’s still in every gameWhat the fuck is even the point
This game is amazing. I fuckin love street brawl. Pretty much all my playtime is in that mode. Full damage Venator and Warden feel like free wins.
amazing balance patch, bravo Yoshi
>>561187845people still buy glass cannon over lucky shot in priorityaverage player is retarded
>>561188543queue all the victor mains downplaying him
>>561188542Street Brawl is lolrandom bullshit and clusterfuck AOE spam. At that point I'd rather play Mario Kart, at least I can see what is hitting me.
>>561188543let's see all the crazy haze buffs
>>561180860he's a zesty buck what do you expect?
Slorkbros...are we back???
>russian silver+billy lane literally dive their walker immediately on respawn against Kelvin+Mo+Lash>keep dying>40 deaths combined just between two of them 20 minutes>keeps flaming the rest of the team and spamming pingswhy are rusniggers always like this?
2 games to finish but I'll probably RQ before I can win them thanks to nigger faggots that play this game>>561188517stop playing Graves meta slave junky. All of you were shitting on her before the buff
>>561188603the item that increases your damage by 80% instead of 25%?
>>561188543Uh, don't you know Graves is bad because you can shoot at her outside her range? Just don't pay attention to the damage falloff stat goy.
>>561188210the skirt makes sense, paige is at her core a horny fujo
>>561186937What echo do? Double wall might be good now
>can't eat eggs while on the ziplineYoshi I know you're reading this thread, if you want it to have a 2 second cooldown at least make it usable while zipping to/from base
>>561188898i'm glad low prio que exists out there for retarded subhumans like you
this general used to be at the very least alright enough for what it's worth until this retarded subhuman thirdworld cucklord showed up whining about the game and being in low priority queue and raging about it yet still playing it day in and day out and blogging about it
>>561187845Why not buy it?
>>561185715His damage comes from the dot, which is spirit. Metal Skin is for physical damage. That's like buying +50 armor in dota then complaining that Clinkz still rapes you.
>>561189143Yeah because the game is basically unplayable in its current state. The aame 3 cancer pieces of shit in every single match
>>561189126yeah I know you have no sovl so getting griefed by niggers in your games means nothing. Surely it must feel great to lose a 50m game, faggot. kys
>>561189047Double wall is broken now with the ghouls.
>teleports anywhere on the map on a 20 second cooldown that also gives him a massive barrier
>>561189265in the rank i play there's no such thing as a 50m game
>>561189143at least have the guts to tag me nigger. You are so brown you don't have the honor to do so. Pathetic weakling, with sub90 IQ mind.
>>561188994>25%base warden damage emptying clip into chest:>294with glass cannon:>689with lucky shot:>844with a boosted ammo clip of 23, each bullet does roughly 36 damage on averageeven if you subtracted the additional 6 bullets, it's 628 damage vs. 689 at the cost of -15% max hpidk
I really like picking support sinclair because I find cc'ing people way more engaging than like, spamming his 1 and chunking peoples health. I honestly think I contribute a lot to the team (especially by the end when im 6 man rabbit hexing) but at the end of game results screen my score is always like, 0/3/16 or something. I wish there was a counter that showed like "total amount of time enemies cc'ed = 5 minutes) or something because otherwise you'll look at my results and go "he was shit".
>>561189341and how was your transition? Did the cut your dick off in less than 50m too?
>>561189336Something wrong with that?
>Graves is fun, but I don't like the skulls and her gun>Viscous is fun, but I don't like his gun or his ult (spamming fists also gets boring fast)>Paige is fun, but I don't like her gun (I do like that it pierces)>Kelvin is fun, but I don't like his gun, how short his ult's range is and everything else besides the grenadesIt's rough out here
>>561189634what kind of gun do you like
>>561189047double wall is busted. I want to enjoy it while I still can.
>>561188543Is this the most unbalanced the game has ever been?>Graves, Dynamo, Kelvin metapure AIDS
I can’t believe they aren’t going to hotfix graves. Pieces of shit work for valve
>>561188542It's great isn't it? Haven't had this much fun in years.>>561188671You're just mad that PVE mode is unplayable now. It's not our fault we have a fun mode. Stay mad.
>>561189336By my shaggy balls
>>561189731Ivy's gun is my favorite. I always get that dopamine boost when I buy headshot booster in early game. I also like Bebop's but his kit is a bit boring so I don't play him that often
>>561189731not him but BOMBS AWAY! give me a demoman or junkrat character to throw grenades around please yoshi please
It pieces me off those niggers at valve buffed Graves so now you retards have to complain about her, and more people will snipe her in my games. Such a dogshit company
>>561189336You must be FURIONS about having to deal with that.
>>561189829Street Brawl has always been unplayable. Real Deadlock being an unbalanced antifun mess has no impact on it.
>>561189634how are they fun if you don't like over half of their character
why am i initiate iii on my main account but archon i on my alt accounti only started playing on my alt account a couple days after i first started playing deadlock because i had a long ass wait time to queue again for abandoning a couple games, i probably only had 40 games of experience and it was mostly all street brawlmy only theory is that it's because my alt account has dota hours on it, my main account has more total game hours on it but no dota hours
goddaym u can tell its plump and massivemaybe the biggest in the cast
>>561189958I knoe right?She should be nerfed into the ground so only you play it.Maybe they could start by making the tombstone shootable.
>>561190104>Street Ball is and has always been unplayableExcept that's not true
>>561189827did you not play the previous patch? calico, wraith, victor, ivy, doorman, mcginnis was far worse
>>561190217Grabbing Silver's massive tail
any cool Drifter builds?
>>561190353Calico is still cancer, and she will be until the free souls are gone. Still don't know why Valve decided this one character should be special and be rewarded more than others for fighting.
>>561190353>ummm actually last patch was more unbalancedWrong, you have to go back to May 2025 for the last time there was 6 heroes in S tier
>>561190217Thighs need to be biggerShe looks like she has bbl diaper ass
>>561189827>before balance patch>waaah new heroes powercreep old ones>after patch>waaaaah buffed heroes rape everything>after current patch>waaaah buffed heroes rape everythingI don't see the difference.
>>561190837you're retarded
>watch as an Abrams in Eternus wins a 1v3 without even dropping below 60% health but then complains that a doorman used the only trick he has left in his bag after the nerfs to send him to fountain
>>561189953there really needs to eb. the problem is the range falloff thing
>>561190217Mina but she hides it
>>561190853stfu nigga its called being corn fed
>>561190853make sure to give your feedback on the forums
>>561190942abrams players are consistently some of the whiniest faggots ever
Did they do something to spirit because I had 330 spirit at the end of my last game where I usually have around 240-250 with that build
more maps when?
>>561190187I'm phantom with 0 hrs in dota so idk
>>561191121yeah they lowered it
took em out
>>561191009You know what. I will.
>>561164838I'd figure with gun changes being like they are Venator would be at least B tierAlso Doorman at C instead of D is weird too
>>561190931>I just cant evenconcession accepted
>>561191176Maps taking place in different Boroughs of NYC with different side-objectives would be so Kino
Nothing makes me as pissed in this game as a friendly McGinnis that walls me off and gets me killed.>Use this right, people will love me. Use it wrong, well... my team will be dead, so it's not like anyone will complain.FUCK YOU!!! And before someone tells me to just do some bullshit to cope with someone else's retardation in a game where I can die in a split second, FUCK YOU!!!
>>561180182>Doorman>Just spread out so at the very worst he only webs one of you into spawn. And even if he does that congrats he just wasted all of his cooldowns for one funny frag. His bells are ass early game, his bells are ass late game, his scaling is shit, his cart is worthless until 5, they turned him into an ult bot but the ult bot gimmick doesn't work if you niggers just, just buy a FUCKING warp stone, in fact I'm begging you to so you can understand just how bad things really are. Just fuck my shit up boss, I mean at least I'm not Mirage tier but come on.
Okay real talk how do I stop dying as apolloHe has no range but he feels so squishy
>>561191606remove her wall entirely
>>561190997nop, mina is all thighs no ass
>Claw my way out of Seeker spamming Billy and Viscous>As soon as I hit Alchemist everyone suddenly knows how to parry????How am I supposed to win if I can't beat my lane by holding down my Q button?
Graves is busted. Nerf her now or we will quit playing.
I'm just going to play gun on every character from now on, spirit is a meme. Gun deals more consistent damage, makes you farm faster (and therefore become stronger sooner) and can be spammed.>but le metal skin and le disarm!If you're forcing the enemy to deviate from their builds just for you, it means you're playing well.Also metal skin is an item for cuck faggots that makes you slower.
>>561191606>>561191806Miku needs an entirely new kit, nothing about her kit meshes well
>>561191606Nothing beats Slopvel fans coming up against the Valve design philosophy of "abilities that can grief your team are OK if they're fun" and absolutely losing their shit
>>561191962Learn parry baiting (punch in someone's direction but don't make contact, if they parry go in and RAPE)
>>561191987shitlowtard... i kneel
>>561190217cookie?
>>561190217nah, doesn't beat Geist
>>561191208how many deadcock hours do you have
>>561190217because shes fat
>>561188543>oh wow our game seems to be finally maintaining a healthy playerbase>what if we drop a huge steaming turd of a balance updateImpressive levels of self sabotage
How the fuck Valve is so shit at figuring out matchmaking? You literally never have this problem in LoL, smurfs are instantly smartly either banned or taken care of and you are always paired with people your level.
>>561191842that's exactly why she has ass, girls that have nice asses usually have nice thighsplus silver's ass is probably all hard muscle
>Get to Archon 2>Suddenly hit peak loss streaks>There's at least 1 aborted fetus on my team every game>23k damage wraith by 40m>0/22/3 Infernus prior game>1/20/1 Graves prior game>Match History is almost entirely red filled with games like thesewhat the fuck happened
>>561192558Valve is kinda lazy...
>>561191979I learned recently is that metal skin can be negated with curse, so do with that information as you will >:)
WHY THE FUCK DOES REM'S SLEEP ULT GO THROUGH WALLSNERF THIS FUCKING RETARDED REDDIT VERMIN ALREADY
>>561192769He's already a 45% WR throwpick nigga
>team getting raped by haze>tell support to buy sentry wards>they dont>we lose
>>561192769seethe
>>561192860so what? nerf the fucking ult it's clearly broken and should not go through walls
>>561190217She's a pursuit predator, always on the huntAn ass like that is only proper
>>561192745The genius deadlock devs thought new players should start in emissary and get put into Archon games
>>561192768you can also negate rune buffs with curse, just thought that was funny
>>561181413Almost saved this but unfortunately their's a Jak in it.
>>561192940We have heard your feedbackHis ult will not go through walls and his pillow will be three times stronger.
>>561192768Nobody wants to be the -10% chump.
i don't know how to itemize to actually do more damage, also i keep being low on souls mid game help
>>561166535Muh bells, muh wide area slowMuh ult, muh 13 second cooldown.
As long as brawl is playable the player count will never drop, sry 6v6fags looking for good balance updates...
>>561192768>>561192982>guys the buff dispelling item dispels buffs, isn't that weird
>>561157770>a real nerf for the first time since it releasedDunno about that, the no spirit resist for self-damage nerf fucked him quite a bit.
>>561180182>celeste>uh idk sometimes i die on her so she feels balanced>mina>uh stun and/or burst her also buy spirit resthat is my downplay
>>561191962On Billy you sprinkle in light melees. If you stand around menacing people within melee range they will eventually lose their nerve and panic parry.
>>561192769Rem has true sight.
>>561192769>>561192860Most Rems also grief their team by either stealing their team's sinners, or stealing the enemy team's sinners and then getting hunted down and killed and having their giant soul bags stolen, most Rems don't buff troopers either, he's as throw pick as they come
>>561192769Because lore wise he's really strong. Even Seven mentions this and is actively trying to be on Rem's good side because he know Rem when fully grown will probably be as powerful as a patron.
>>561192745The worst matchmaking known to video games happened, and yeah. You need to basically get to Oracle 2 now to have consistent games.
Just dont let [character] get farmed and they wont be an issue bro
>>561172108just queue him all day in brawl then?
How many characters get 2/3rds of their ult CD removed in Brawl?
>>561193123no one plays brawl thoughbeit>most picked hero in normal matches since last patch48.7k games>most picked hero in street brool since last patch2.7k gamesFor every 1 street brool match played there are 20 normal matches played
Rem is actually hilarious to play.Running around at top speed with trophy hunter enduring speed ganking people.Setting my criminal labubu empire to work smashing vending machines and pushing lanes.
>>561193564player numbers before and after brawl
>>561191687Please...
>>561193669holy retard
>>561193641Stop calling them labubus, they look nothing alike.
>>561193807I accept your concession
so torment pulse isn't terrible but not amazing either on graves
>>561182962>Guess Aussie refugees just aren't a thingThey all went to Hokkaido.
>>561170564If Mina is the same age as Arin and Blackmoore is a 4 year high school it's probably entirely by reputation because that would put Mina at least 5 years older than Graves and Apollo meaning they wouldn't have attended at the same time.
>>561193669>muh player countIf the game has 100k players only 5k them are playing street brawl
>>561193910
>>561189526Holy shit you're mad af lmaoNo wonder you're an emotionally unintelligent retard in low prio queue
>>561193910No need for torment pulse on an easy mode character with autoaim.
>>561193641killing rem is funnier
At which point on this graph was Brawl added do you think?>muh new charactersyeah thats that little tiny bump in the middle with no player retention
>>561194103on january 23rd with about half of the peak the game would have with the release of new characters
>>561194038Feels really good to smack him around that's true.
>>561194103>>561194314I hope you are pretending anon
ive been playing nearly nothing but brawl... i even did well in standard (shot right past seeker) in my ~15 gamesive told myself its all practice for standard, but i dont want ot go back.....
>>561194531This is the experience of the majority of the playerbase, anon. Don't feel bad, and don't feel pressure to return to 6v6. It's a shit game mode and Valve will be balancing solely around Brawl soon.
does silver not get phantom strike in brawl? i need to punish the sluts camping in the back
>enhanced infinite rounds and enhanced sharpshooterGod wanted me to win this brool game and that was that
>>561188543I just don't understand their balancing methodology. Every fucking buff/nerf recently is something along the lines of>Ability 1 - reduced scaling from 0.6 to 0.59>Ability 2 - T2 is now "Decreases cooldown by -18s" from old "Decreases cooldown by -20s">Ability 3 - increased damage from 30 to 457865786, also now has 7.0 spirit scaling, gives Unstoppable for half an hour and nukes the whole island of ManhattanJust why
Phantom Strike on Yamato goes kind of hard actually, surprised I don't see more people building it.
>>561194103>dying again grim
>>561194694warp strike+phantom strike is so fucking funny, was on silver, popped ult, and almost instantly teleported up to a vindicta floating in the back and annihilated her
>>561194749Her 2 vro?
SHIV PALPATINE
>>561194749Isn't it already called Flying Slash?
the graves buffs were a placebo that the shitters fell for and now they think she's suddenly OP
Nerf graves
>>561192953Hunt for bwc
>>561194638I badly want proper custom game support to be made a thing. Let the community figure out what's fun instead of relying on valve.
>>561194925
How to balance Graves and make her a character that requires using more than one braincell at a time:Make the autoaim not work when confirming and denying souls.Significantly shorten the cast range of the wall so it's used defensively like it was supposed to, instead of sniping it behind you when you're fighting her.Make the wall single-jumpable and remove the ghouls.Increase the ult cooldown by 50%, revert the two instant ghouls change, make the tombstone shootable.
NEVER GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!
>>561194829>>561194867I'm not saying she needs the mobility but having that extra push and being able to instantly ground people synergizes pretty well with her kit and playstyle, try it out and you'll see how good it feels.
lmao what's with this faggot having a meltdown over graves of all characters
>>561195050So are you tripling her damage to make up for destroying her kit or aiming for the first 20% WR hero
>>561189336>Does nothing after thatI fail to see the vision
>>561195190It just seems like a low prio in terms of t4 items she really wants
>>561195275OP chracters always garner seethe >>561195037
>>561195036FACTS though I doubt that's going any further than private lobbies for the game modes they come up with
>>56119530620% WR would only be temporal as the boosted seekers slowly gravitate towards other heroes.
>>561195291>ivy>sinclair>abrams>victor>vindicta>kelvin>fair and aryan
>>561195291TRVKE NVKE
>>561195291None of these tierlists are ever accurate.
>>561195291>Mirage>Cheapmf he literally has the longest ttk in the game fucking Paige 1 kills faster than him.
>>561195291>Graves>Not at the bottom of nigger tier
WHY DID THEY HAVE TO BUFF GRAVES IT WAS NOT NEEDED
No idea how we won this one but holy shit, the comeback was crazy. They almost destroyed our patron but we managed to get a wipe on respawn and then it was just attrition until we finally won because Victor overextended and died first.
breeding every doorsissy!
>>561195906They roll dice for every character which influences the changes they get
>>561195957Incredible that the hidden king's team almost won with 3 people
>>561196056incredible that archmother did win with only 2 people
>>561195957>Holliday 33k player dmg in a 50 minute game.I hope they are at least saving buffs for her rework/redesign because holy shit, she's such a garbage hero right now.
>>561195906>literal throw pick receives a couple buffsWOOOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOU CAN JUST JUMP OVER THE LINE?????TAP Q ONCE? WHATS THAT? NOBODY HAS TIME FOR THAT!WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT MY GUN DOES NO DAMAGE? HELLO??????AAAAAAAAAARGH YOSHI SAVE MEEEEEEE
they can lower graves' damage but only if they make her abilities actually fucking work rightskulls and zombies are dumb as shit. zombies especially will just ignore fights if you drop them too close to a jungle camp, and if you put the tombstone too close to a wall they can spawn inside it.
accurate
>>561195957>that hollidaywhat a joke
how do i churn out damage as venator in brawl? constant gutshots? sometimes they have a bunch of bullshit that icant really wallbang
just played a game as this bitch. no wonder only pedophiles use her holy shit.
>>561196169>akshually she's really good if you have top 100 ranked movement + aim
Once Viper gets a rework into a hot looking lizard chick, she'll get spammed everywhere and people will beg for her to be nerfed.
>>561196546YEP
>>561196204>buy Refresher and Echo Shard for 2>instantly shit out 8 zombies out of my ass>activate Heroic Aura>enemy dies instantlySUCH A GREAT CHARACTER NOT A PROBLEM LETS BUFF HER SOME MORE NEXT PATCH RIGHT HOW ABOUT THE WALL SPAWNS A FEW SKULLS AS WELL???????
>>561196546>furry girl>scalie girl>ghost girlwhat are we missing
>>561196760We literally still don't have an Ixian/demon girl.
whres the loli at
>m1 players when you build boundless spirit on paige instead of a fifth active item to peel for them
>>561196758*buys debuff remover*>>561196817trust the plan
can we nerf Kelvin back into being useless? he's kind of not fun to play against, at all
>>561193910Better items desu but if you need to be tanky it's an option.
i want a shithead little goblin mobster character
>>561196276Silver in both
Who has the best gun in the game? Vyper?
>>561196930Who the fuck keeps breaking the horns of the Ixians??
>>561196758Throwing kudzu!
>>561196930Is that her futa cock peeking through her dress?
>>561196979>2026>We are forgotten
>stun>stun>slow>silence>stun>stun>diesick game
>>561197016I assume it's just a cultural thing like puerto ricans getting that chunk cut out of their eyebrow.
>>561196951they could make his 3 CD longer than the duration
>rank up in linear fashion from Oracle 1 to Ascendant 2 since rank reset>Popping off and still getting regular MVPs, omw to Eternus>Sudden 15+ game loss streak carrying my team each time without a single major slip>Back in Phantom 5What the fuck Yoshi, I thought the "government mandated loss" thing was a joke
>>561197156>tfw graves, mo, rem main
>>561191176Blackheart's Bay except it's an underground train station and you have to collect quarters to pay off the crackheads who will rush the lanes
is lady geist grave's mom?
>>561196758shes weak so she needs auto aim too please understand :)
>>561197156>lash>drifter>fair and honorable>thinking graves is cancer>thinking mina is annoying>thinking paige is annoying>thinking kelvin is annoyingholy fucking shitlow
>>561197240Buy BKB
They should buff melee, it's melee's time to be good
>>561197156yeah idk about all that
>>561197459>item that negates the first parry
>>561197360does Geist's eggs regenerate when Oathkeeper turns the clock back? also no
>>561197116Not likely, it would be too small
>>561197421>Complaining about Lash and Drifter but calling people shitlowLOL
A 6400 item that autoparries every 60 seconds
>>561197543wouldn't be suprised if they add a 3200 item that negates the stun from parry so casuals can just build abrams and only melee forever on him. game is being developed to appeal to casuals anyways, might as well add ez get out of jail free items
fps kiddies are so funny, they really think m1 aiming should be the top contributing factor to winning
>>561185458>>561185526sorry i made this in the middle of the match so its scuffed as hell haha i had no idea how to do it
>>561197568this is schizophrenic even
>>561197360she can be if we adopt her
Mo and Krill is the fairest hero in the game.
>>561197715Great purely for sinclaire mogging Mina.
>>561197756more like the fattest lmao
keep seething third worlders
I HAVE GRAVES BANNED IN BRAWL AND IVE BEEN AGAISNT HER THE LAST 3 GAMES
>>561197715That's awesome
>>561197739how
>Makes shitters seethe uncontrollably How does my girl do it bros?
>>561197937I fucked her
>>561197156Ovy is not OP. She does like no damage until late game
I think I now understand why Graves makes /dlg/ seetheThey are shitters who don't even play the game!Hahaha!
Please stop saying mean things about Graves...
>>561197962She's a child...
>>561198112Out of 10.
>>561197421>>561195037
Thank you schmucks for beta, no alpha actually(!!!), testing this game for me! LOL! Ill be back when its actually good and playable (if that ever happens LOL)
matchmaking patch doko
>People think you can't be annoying if your character is bad>People think you can't be OP and not annoying>People think annoyingness is purely tied to how strong a character is
>>561198356matchmaking and optimization patch was a lie anon im sorry
Why would you use an autoparry script in streetbrawl
Give Graves' gun a longer range but a much narrower, less forgiving autoaim snap.
>>561157140he shits damage still
>>561198436People cheat in checkers and go fish my guy.
It's been 24 hours, we can see how the new patch has shaken out statistically. Here are my findings
>>561197715And now for my next trick, I beat the fuck our of your rabbit ass
>>561198432no….
>>561198436It's the same reason why brawl is just "which characters are meta right now?", people want to win
>Graves players bragging as if a nerf won't send them back to sub 45% WRs
>>561198560>Sinclair, Seven and Ivy most affected by range reductionsHow about the fucking Doorman who got his legs broken?
>>561198590i remember when brawl was new, that first week of brawl was fucking magical but ever since the first week ended it's been nonstop metafaggotry sweating even more than the standard mode
>>561198560What is this Vyper proxy strategy?
>>561198672It will be a slap on the wrist nerf accompanied by a huge buff to some other part of her kit, i really dont see the vision with most of the recent changes
>>561198687I'm operating off of the numbers here, Doorman is still relatively average despite the nerfs.
She’s called Graves because Yoshi is gonna bury her 6 feet under the ground in the next patch
>tune into rando three-digit viewer streamer>they have the graphics as low as they'll go, 90% of all textures literally removed so all the geometry is solid shapes with sharp un-decorated collision>minions are overlayed with huge neon red boxes for health bars cluttering up the field of vision>minimap takes up a full quarter of the screen>all to focus more on wraith m1 faggotryjesus what a miserable way to play video games.
>>561198761there's nothing to kill you inside their base so vyper enters in there and farms all 3 wavesthe strategy has nothing to do with vyper itself
you never saw this much cope and seethe when victor, calico, wraith, doorman etc. were overpowered...i sure wonder why :^)
I've been playing Street Brawl alot and having fun. Tried playing the normal mode but everytime I queue its like 5+ minutes before I get a match, and more often than not we get stuck waiting on an 12th player before getting kicked out of the queue. Is normal mode dying?
>>561198761The proxy strategy centers around using her heavy sliding and infinite ammo, coupled with high fire rate + monster rounds to steal three lanes worth of creeps before they leave the base, forcing the enemy team to go into you. Vyper does it the best right now because of her high speed and fire rate, along with the fact she also gets a barrier on max slither. It does require a lot of skill and aim to pull off, but since she's very difficult to fight 1v1 early if she's halfway decent due to never needing to reload.
>>561198987>when they were
>>561198987retard
Why do I rank up playing brawl?
>>561198560>victor wr only went down -0.7% people have been saying theres a tank build on him now?
i get picking victor, graves, paige, etc in brawl... but why are they always on the same team
What's the term when a ritualist needs vastly more effort to counter than it does to play them.Cheap?
>>561199231rank is cosmetic and a product of time played
>>561198560>mirage winning bigly>damage was nerfed across the board>changed to be more survivablestart playing tank mirage immediately
why doesnt the avoid/ban fucking work?
>steal Seven's ult as Sinclair>our team's Kelvin uses the dome on me without catching any enemy>he lets the dome expire instead of taking it down so I can fry peopleI would feel disappointed, but the rest of the team feeding their asses off without buying a single fucking utility item set my expectations below their IQ
graves is ruining the only good mode left (brawl)
>>561199823because there's 11 other people doing their own avoid/bans
>>561199525>a product of time playedI have 400 hours played and I'm still arcanist
>>561197568This was blatantly made by the resident silvercuck who is seething for one reason or another, as usual
>be boosted victor onetrick>victor nerfed>load up haze>max focus, max ult>rico, unstop, fury rage, silencer>rape a geist from full hp before the silence wears off killing her instantly>literally easier than playing victornow I truly see........
>>561196276I love my wife.
>>561199927Deserved for being a paige poster.
>be me>be relatively new>be bad at the game>friends worse at the game>typically have fun with Archon/Emissary games solo>at worst go 1:1, sometimes carry and get good boy stars at the end>play with friends>sent to Ritualist>eat shit like never before>every enemy feels untouchable and vastly better than me>end up feeding consistently and unable to bounce backFrom my own experience and from what I hear about the game it feels like Deadlock's matchmaking system is even worse than pure rng.
>>561199745I was playing brawl against a mirage and his last stack pop killed me for 3k damage which was more than the health I had due to siphon bulletsI kept trying to hide but he had ricochet so it was over
>>561199823only 2 bans per game 1 per team
>>561199525then why does it go down when i lose
Seven bros when do I buy GreaterExpansion?
>>561200001what if there are 2 lady geists tho
I should just start buying Warp Stone and pushing the lanes to try and get better at escaping people
MINA HAAAAAAAAAAAARISE UP AND CLAIM THAT ANON'S COOOOOOOOOCK...
So how do I counter graves if it's so easy?>Stay away from herThis is fucking deadlock we're talking about. Everyone has cracked mobility.
BUFF SILVERNERF GRAVES
>>561198873close enoughwelcome back tf2 spy confighttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzzqWR6rZI
>>561200227cursed relic :)
>>561197693i'd unironically like to see an item like that because parry is op
this image causes /dlg/ to seethe and get very, very angy wangy
>>561200331>mfw have been watching this nigga for over 15 years at this point
>>561200227You nuke her general area with your AoE of choice.
>>561200402I dig it, you just like dem green girls.
>>561200227Graves is like one of 5 characters with no fucking innate mobility though lmao
>>561196878That's me on seven dying to infernus afterburn.
>>561200406>spirit nuke herSpirit nukers do worse against her because they can't kill zeds and most of them have to go close range to do anything.Playing an M1 fag of your choice is alot easier and more effective.
>>561200575>>561200575
>calico nerf>silver buff
>>561200524>Spirit nukers do worse against her because they can't kill zeds and most of them have to go close range to do anythingEnter the humble gargoyle of area denial.
>>561197240>no bkb
>>561197360No, but Seven is her daddy.
>>561200683Ivy kinda just has everything.
>>561201442except a gun that actually deals damage, but that's okay m1ggering is boring
>>561201553I mean it's got enough firerate that damage doesn't even matter.
>>561197568No&Skill are the most honest characters in the game. t. M1gger
>>561198112children can't get pregnant though.
>>561201597i'm considering the fire rate alongside the damage, i meant dpsit has shit dps it's a pretty bad weapon now it got nerfed into the ground
>>561201981onhit proccer would still work though no?
>>561202069her build up is pretty mediocre and the small mag size means it'll be harder to consistently proc it when you're spending half the time reloadingstill, on-hit proc autism is probably the best you can do with her gun, that or just the classic tesla bullets fire rate spam
Who is the Rotund'jere of deadlock?
>>561204574>stinky>green energy>kills you by being near himVictor
>>561200402Confused mostly, don't you need four chars slotted to play brool?
lol gun doorman is actually op
>>561184803Cart and bells should be honest— not instant abilities you can't avoid, especially after his ultJust a faggot flowchart character queers just like vanilla WoW rogues. No skill.
>>561175275> easily counterable,How?
>play abrams>enemy lane is mina and doormanwhat do i do
