Congratulations Zangief Dream is your AWT champion.DA UPDATE:https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/2035657990351573194VODS:https://www.youtube.com/@arcsystemworksjapan/streams Ilsa character guide:https://youtu.be/jXEkdOURD5w >/gbvsg/ Tournament VODshttps://rentry.co/du3onotehttps://www.youtube.com/@grumblebumble69/--->(Un)official /gbvsg/ PC lobbyTo join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions https://imgur.com/bCHqtDLPlaystation players cannot join the lobby, use a room if needed instead.>(un)Official /gbvsg/ RoomsUsually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.>Gawdlike character guides (secret techniques!) for Yuel, Vikala, Narmaya, Galleon and Wilnas, by yours truly Anon!https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjG9OYMNRivtA_KWepE_aFmhGOJc2zETR>This week's F2P rotationGran, Djeeta, Narmaya, Charlotta, Ladiva, Ferry, Anila, Vikala, Zooey, Versusia, Siegfried, Percival, Vane, Lancelot, Seox, Anre, Eustace, Beatix, Vaseraga, Zeta, Galleon, Grimnir, Metera, Lowain, Katalin, Vira, Yuel, Soriz, Cagliostro, Wilnas, Ilsa, Sandalphon, Nier, Beelzebub, Lucilius, Avatar Belial, not 2B, and Meg>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/>Websitehttps://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/>Resources:https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR>Twitter hashtagshttps://x.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711>Match replayshttps://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs>Graphic Enhancements for PChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3117157142>Enable sound while the game runs in the backgroundhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/2157560/discussions/0/4041481833167877002/>Remove Figure Mode censorship/black voidhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/484409Last Bread: >>561123940
sexiest female in that image? the little yggy
66u
>Cag 2U is so bro—ACK!
>>56116533444u
88U
>>561165313sorry anon i didn't think anyone else was gonna bake and now ive stolen your mom pic.
Mom thread has a better OP
Does anyone want to play? (EU Djeeta EX)It's been a week since I've played.
Can someone explain what exactly Cagliostro's weaknesses are?
>>561165752her ass and hes too short to get on most amusement park rides
>>561165752stubbier than average 66l
How many tournaments has Cag won now? Dead game so nobody on twitter posts any statistics ever.
SDSG.
>>561165752his players have a weak prostate
>his
>>561165713did anyone join u anon
aping around
>>561165901this isnt even true for cag
>>561166427Not yet. I'm in training mode right now.
>>561166503dustloop would never lie
Mum said it's my turn on the xbox
>>561166503It is true
>>561166581EUROS TO THE LOBBY
>euroslolwrong game
>>561166613dustloop is genuinely an awful resource and arcsys games would be better served by a generic wiki with raw data and no flavor text.
>>561165632i love mom and satyr
Quick mini-gameWithout looking it up, guess which 2 characters on Dustloop have more negatives than positives according to their pages?
>>561167336ex djeetacagliostro
>>561167336i remember lowain somehow having iti'm guessing abel or ferry as the second
>>561167336Cagliostro and Metera
Why would Koji mash after a button throw tech?
>>561167464>>561167497>>561167534It's Ferry and Vikala !Thank you for participating!
>>561167564he watched my replays
i luv sheepi may have made a mistake
>>561167813did you get Anila pregnant
>>561167913i did not realize there were two threads up
luving sheep is never a mistake
>>561167702>ferryof fucking course
>Already bored of IlsaWhat an absolutely failure on a gameplay level.
I hope you guys never let this general become like GG's.
>>561167228All FG wikis are flawed because people with biases will edit their pages to upplay/downplay characters they feel strongly about and then get into edit wars if you try to change it. Another game I play has a really flawed wiki, not even the frame data is completely correct, but I don't edit it because the few times I tried I got my edits reverted by someone who can't even get top 3 in small brackets; I imagine a lot of people don't want to deal with edit nazis and let those sites languish
You mean "I hope Cygames doesn't let this general become like GG's"
>>561169307I don't get how they can call us The Gayest Fighting Game when Strive exists. I'd rather take homosexual male characters alongside a bunch of attractive women than deal with Strive covering characters in hijabs; people bitched about Dizzy's awful redesign so Arcsys put MORE clothes on her. And the less said about Jam the better
>I don't get how they can call us The Gayest Fighting Game
i'm so sick of the modern alt-right porn addict who screams "BURKA" and "HIJAB" whenever a female character isn't naked
>>561166613I would be lying if I said I didn't extensively use Dustloop in the past but GB's pages often being behind, incomplete, or undermaintained assuming there is any maintenance at all, the shameless downplaying on character's pages accross various games, as well as sometime outright lying, and the website barely working because they're too busy making a rainbow dustloop splash for the main page, well, I just don't really use it anymore and can't exactly fathom why anyone would still use it.I think I remember page editors still fighting over Naoto's gender on her page not too long ago and it just boggle the mind this shit is still an issue after all these fucking years, it's actually sad to see how low Dustloop fell.
>>561169307don't worry. we actually love trans characters here.
>>561169903Where's the corn? I can't post the gif without her corn!
When I play vikala I grab people constantly because they never expect me to run across the screen and grab them 3 times in a row
>>561169994You could've just posted Ladiva.
what happen to strives general
>>561169903>The constant crap about Naotos Gender>Strive having that mess with Bridget>Groob with LadviaAlmost as if the vast anime fg scene got infested with weeb weirdos more concerned about a characters gender instead of playing the game.I apologize, I went on a random Tangent but dustloop sucks yes. Dreamcancel may not be as consistently updated for KOF and fatal fury but at least it doesn't have editors fighting.
>>561169503Am I retarded? This outfit is kind of cute to me.
>>561170449i like it too but i didn't want to say anything because i know someone will have a melty
>>561170412I didn't want to even mention Bridget because I'm sincerely fucking sick of it at this point.I blame the leading cause of mental illness accross the globe, america.
>>561170449it is I'm pretty sure actual gg players like it too, it's just the game has a strange culture of twitter secondaries that complain about it
>>561170604Marxism and progressive shit is Zionist propaganda
>>561170643I'm pretty sure actual trannies like it too*
>>561170643>Strive sloppers calling other players secondariesHow many Brisket plushes do you own
>>561169503this is cute
>Groob with Ladvia>not cag
>>561170449Dizzy's new outfits are really pretty and actually suit her, both in reflecting her nature and in her not needing to activate her Battle Mode transformation.Jam's new outfit does not. She should not have anything getting in the way of her legs.
>>561170403game is bad but they also have a 24 hour 7 day a week discord raid from polfags shitting up the general screaming that soive is dead because trans trans trans trans trans and xrd was soooooo much better because it didn't have transtrans trans trans trans transtrans trans transgay gay transtrans transtrans trans transcensor censor transthat's the entire general
>>561171053I mean, I agree if only because I myself don't like Jam's new design, but I don't even know what Strive Dizzy look like, I stopped playing it a fucking long time ago I kept being disgruntled at the balance and, as stupid as it sound I just couldn't take this fucking community anymore, both here and at large.I just think that outfit in the picture is nice.
>>561165359still havent read that shit
>they also have a 24 hour 7 day a week discord raid from polfags shitting up the general screaming that soive is dead because trans trans transIs this faggot for real lol? acting as if soive is the victim? what?
>>561171396Daisuke was asked to cover up the females among other things to promote a feminist woke narrative and get paid. Everything progressive is artificial and propagandized.
*checks OP*oh wait, no, this is still the rising gen...
>>561171750Slop post
just use redditslop at this point lil trannytroon bridgetfucker
I like this character
Id is gonna be underwhelming. In Relink he doesn't actually use his sword much (again, FKHR has a fetish for cosmetic greatswords) and he's all about turning into a dragon and slashing/punching. He's gonna be someone you assume is gonna play like Siegfried 2 but he's actually gonna be dragon Soriz with a projectile, similar to how Wilnas is just shittier Soriz with higher damage. This game is dead. The new mechanic will be aerial 66L.
>>561171995Dragon Soriz is exactly what I wanted Wilnas to be though
>>561171995>Wilnas is just shittier SorizIs he really?
>>561171750the current asw thread has 22 posts hidden with these filters btw
>>561171523I'd have sympathy for xrdfags if they actually played their game. But they didn't, so Daisuke went hunting for a new audience.
Allowing soive refugees will be the demise of this thread
Bruise status?
>>561172191They play nothing alike
>>561172280And he got it, most tranny fanbase in history. Also, didn't ask.
>>561172380this and the 2b one should cut before they're animated getting up
>>561172191No, Soriz has to be proactive while Wilnas just downbacks for most of the round until he's able to fraud you for 2/3 of your health
>system mechanic adjustments>character adjustmentsDon't do that, don't give me hope.
>>561172486jam is still hot though
>>561172581Why has it taken people so long to accept that this is the reality of Wilnas gameplay when I was saying it on day 1?
>>561165713GGs anon. I have no idea how to play Vaseraga. Fireball on 214 is so weird.
Ragebaiting and malicious trolling is a trait of toxic narcissistic cluster b!
>>561172784Nice tent jeeta, lookin solid.
>>561172191The only thing redeeming Wilnas is his broken damage. Whereas Soriz does 10% less (still a billion) but also is broken in neutral skips and movement in comparison.
>>561172784ggs anon and ggs other anon who wants ggs.
newcutie here, is vira considered a gimmicktroon or is she honest
>>561173237Funnily enough, both.
>>561173237honest.
>>561173237koko deska
>>561173237Stop caring about stupid shit like that before I wax your balls to death, newfren.
>>561172956I want more 66L-less characters
>>561165453Artists who draw Sheep slightly pudgy like this instead of just drawing a thin girl with giant tits are this era's renaissance painters.
>>561173517but you HATE vaseraga
>>561173237Mostly honest at round start absolute gimmicktroon when she gets her install.
>>561174063
>>561174192this desu
>>561174063>those lips
>>561174078Can you elaborate what makes her broken in install? To me she doesn't seem to reach the broken factor of top tiers even. Serious question. I want to learn.
>>561174192>versus.... Meg!
Not to invoke the shittening coming back, but this thread, at least as of now, feels like a different place from last thread. Were we all just riding a fucked high?
MARIPPE
>>561171986why
>>561174472
>>561174063sex
>>561172746because knee plus
>>561174525That thread gave me a fucking headache man, I think it's best we pretend it never happened and it was all a fever dream, one of the few instances where I'm willing to believe it was some a couple weirdos "raiding"
>>561174525Hopecucks had their minds shattered and decided to take it out on the thread
>>561174625she probably smells goodher hair looks softshe is probably weak to tickling her eyes are pretty
>>561174661>Adorable face and hair>Perfectly proportioned sausage like body>Sexy and thought provoking stubby legsChibi Mari truly is perfect.
>>561174525u forgot that tournaments and holidays open a wormhole to other threads denizens to come shit up the thread more than usual
>>561174625why not
>>561174525Shut the fuck up shotoshitter I take a vacation pushing back against misinformation for one day and you act as if the world is ending
>>561174868good answer>>561175056bad answer
>>561174425I didn't say broken I said gimmicky. Due to Lumi set ups and having an air stall/dash.
Cagtroon brought xer friends from ggg and now we're being raided 24/7
>>561175154But gimmickslop stuff is currently the strongest thing in the game.
any yuros still up for some lobby games?
>>561175315Broken and gimmicky are still not synonyms, they could nerf Lowain to bottom tier and he woulds still be gimmicky without revamping his kit.
>>561175356I'm too busy masturbating, Jizzington.
>>561175410Yeah but Vira gets stronger in her install, right.
>>561175373I don't get the appeal of this
>>561174769You'd think being objectively more intelligent than everyone else would make life easy, but it's really the opposite.
>>561175373atrocidad
cag is still bottom 3 doe
>>561175501That's what an install should do...
>wake up to a brand new day>hmmm should I>learn the matchup or whine on gbvsgAnd you niggers wonder why you're all bad at this game.
>>561175615this is the second picture I've seen of cag smoking
>>561175717For an install it honestly doesn't feel like a huge upgrade. Like 30% to power level only.
>>561175773Who cares about being good at a dsg?
Do you think gamera shitposts and bitches on 2ch about cag and lowain? NoYou know why?Because he fucking learns the matchup and he knows the game's balance isn't as bad as gbvsg makes it out to be
>>561175717Someone should tell FKHR that given how shite Ferry's and Uno's installs are, let alone Nier's pay-to-lose install
>>561175534Maximum overstimulation after fapping all of your libido away.
>>561176018>dsgA dusoge? I know what a kusoge is but what's that
I didn't, I'm not and I will not play Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising for the foreseeable future.
>>561176097*gets washed by Belial*
>>561170403died of HIV from transgender Diddyorgies at frosty's
>>561176336ur not her
>>561176336fake blue nier post
>>561176097>You know why?Because he get paid to play a shit game and is addicted.
>>561176329I put it together recently that it stands for dog shit game
>>561176528i-its... its actually... d-d-dead slop...
>>561176336My love.....No......
>>561176528Wrong.
>>561176720Huh? Huh? Did you say something?I couldn't hear you, speak up. Huh?
>me looking at all my DSG - minions when I was the one who coined the term around here
Yeah, but now it's a SDSG.
>>561177009i'm happy that people still post my djeeta post
>>561177140the futatranny one?
There is nothing trans about futa
I super samefagged and spammed several /gbvsg/ memes into relevance.
>>561177558Zeta does not have penis vibes few grub girls do
>>561172370The uncomfortable truth nobody wants to admit is that this thread was founded by Strive refugees. Most people here played Strive before playing Rising.
>>561178136nobody is uncomfortable with admitting this
>>561174419nothing wrong with proper dick sucking lips
>>561177397True, shota however, is extremely gay
>>561178712there is a new version
>>561178963Thank you.
>>561178963>>561178712>>561178993Glad GBVSR dies, you fucking trannies.
they should make dash light attack short shorts
Raging Strike sock.Raging Chain sock.
brave counter helmet
>>561178712>>561178963my transwife
>>561179445you mean my regular and normal wife
>>561179108they sold programming socks at awt. you lost chud.
and presto, it is a girl with a penis
I played soive for a good year and a half, honestly had a fun time rolling my face on all the buttons and flying around like an idiotthe fans/players are the worst part about the game and I would never tell anyone that I play soive
I just hit someone, and instead of chasing their back recovery by dashing normally I instead did 3 66Ls and the fourth one hit their wakeup and they died for it because I confirmed it into a nigger combo. This is a super serious competitive fighting game btw, not a comedy fighter at all.
ggs and enjoy your meal, anon!
>>561179616Don’t fall for larpschizo’s bait
Meet your season 3 guest
what am i not getting about vikala's 623L that lets it be plus on block, beat spot dodge, safe on roll, beat jump, obviously beat mash, and all without a cooldown?
>>561181920Meg 2?
>>561181921Isnt it very minus at close range? If it's being used close enough to beat a mash, its close enough for them to eat shit if you block it.
I want Galleon to have movable wall like Toph
DJEETA!Djeeta?Djeeta...
>>561182178>Comparing Kuni2 to that vile dyke Meg
>>561182512Meg is not a dyke and is very cute
>>561182204doesnt it still beat mash at long range
>>561182575Vile. Dyke. Meg.
>>561181920tekken females do nothing for me but the fox girl is cute with her stupid face marks
>>561182178>comparing Meg to that obnoxious whore ninja bitch
What character should I try out
>>561184335Djeeta!
>>561176415>heranon is nice and down to earth, don't know where the narratives of him being trans and mentally ill come from, most likely just malicious shitposting
>>561184490he will never live down that bea color
Wait a burger flipping second, wasn't Mom's 5U attack +ob?
>>561185124she might have done well at evo so they made it a combo button exclusively and removed any kind of offense game she could run
>>561185124not anymoreit is now just an advancing special cancelable normalI think it's -4? might be -2
>>561178167pretty
>>561185263Yeah it's minus 4
>>561185250retard
>>561185250>>561185263Oh, did that open up any new routes at least?
>>561185854hahahaha
>>561182357Did they need to be that big?
>>561186159they should have been bigger
>>561186205sorry this game only has room for homos
>>561186205https://youtu.be/aF4awWymwXI?si=44AApOlp858Lw-wx
>>561185895So it's just a useless extra normal now?
>>561186686Top 5 btw
>>561186686It's mostly used to extend combos after 623H but raw 5U is kind of dead because it launches and is minus
>>561186686No. You can frametrap with it and confirm off it or special cancel into something safe if it's blocked. You can use it in combos for midscreen extensions for massive corner carry. If you want plus frames for a spent stock, you can just use pillar or orb followup.
my dick and balls are plus on block
>>561187275ZooeyGAWD
i've never used my dick or balls so i don't know their frame data
>>561187396it was taken from you at birth anyway
found shirolamb on /v/
>>561187595what even got nerfed about anre
>>561187718Nobody knows as nobody has bothered checking it out.
>>561187718i didnt read any of it but i remember the list of straight nerfs being weirdly long
>>561187595I honestly feel for the poor guy
>>561187595shiwowamb can you tell us what your third choice of character would be so i can avoid it like the plague?
>>561186159Yes
>>561186737>>561186952Well let's hope they do something with it in 2.60. And holy fuck does my feel unwieldy to control
>>561187595hahaaaaa look at that /v/ermina fitting end
>>561188006HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>561187718His plus on block throw bait is now minus so he actually has to pretend like he plays the same game as everyone else and as we all know that's unacceptable for players who picked a character that only carried them due to lack of matchup knowledge on everyone else's end whilst having an annoying gimmicky play style to grind your patience down with.
>>561187718his anti projectile special doesn't beat projectiles anymore
>>561188172You are retarded. The game selectively picks who gets to have good throwbaits (or anything) or not with no criteria. His complaints are valid and Anre is ass.
What if wallbreaks were added?
>>561188534the game would be even worse
>>561187824ngl his>i'll never get a golden golshi>my life is so hard>i'm so bad>boohoo feel bad for medrivel was extremely annoying
>>561188631I find the game being a flaming turd with no salvation more annoying, to be honest.
I main Djeeta, my gimmick is being extremely handsome and having a huge penis
>>561188267this was the greater sin than nerfing his throwbait. they gutted his identity
i set up a new terrarium so there's mold in my room that's making me feel like i have a cold and my body thinking it has a cold is making me SUPER horny all the time
>>561188708okay but the nigga was playing a character that was contributing to making the game a flaming turd with no salvation
>>561188889didn't they also nerf his parry
>>561188896Granblue fantasy versus rising?
>>561188795this is how you know women are ovulating
>>561188631>MFW I realize sword of EOS is coming so I probably won't ever win a Golshi either
>>561189001Honestly? Not really. His only truly annoying shit was the throwbait plus on block. His projectile spam was nothing compared to the shit Metera can unleash on you. They should've just nerfed that annoying shit and make him more coherent framedata wise to not make a walking knowledge check, instead they just straight up murdered him because why not. They're completely incompetent.
>>561188528I haven't fought an anre since before the patch but he was a really toxic casino character. Endless plus frames, can never take a turn or anti air him because of parries and his install was legit broken. Anre is probably still fine, Cag got hit way harder. Sh******* will have his doom phase and come back
>>561188534Actually would be too much work especially with the stages that have a different area for round 3.
>>561189041I think they nerfed the projectile that fucked every other projectile by having to use the heavy variant to beat heavy projectiles
>>561189078no wonder i've never seen it
Honestly if we're being honest I would rather honestly play against a Metera than an Uno t b h
>>561189203Nah, he had already left before the patch, the nerfs just eased his way out because he came back just to check the patch and found Uno nerfed
i like playing against metera because when i lose she kisses me
>>561189409And that's why the game died, because you allow zonercucks to exist.
this game is ass
You've probably got less than a year to grub. Who're you going to play as the walls close in?
>>561189659probably some more wraith king and anti-magemaybe some sol badguy if 2.0 is actually an improvement
>>561189659The same characters I've been playing for two years
>>561189659Star Breaker, Mordekaiser and Hotaru
>>561189775GET OFF MY TEAM 22 MINUTE BATTLEFURYLET
>Anila's sheep hop just clips straight through momWould it kill this shitty game to have any sort of unique interactions? Holy fuck, what a travesty of game design.
>>561189659The Silent is my favorite, though I also like The Necrobinder. Also probably some Leon Kennedy as well now that I finished my master of unlocking run.
>>561190051i'm actually usually down to an average of around 18 for bfury or radiance with a bracer/band if the lane didn't go retarded (get them out of your way)
>>561190709Thank you. Better than anything I've ever felt when playing Rising.
So we're all in agreement that we're gonna go back to undernight when this game properly dies once the new 66L mechanic comes out, right?
>>561190906Nah, I still have it against UNItrannies for the "what do I think about Granblue??? UNI2 is going to be great!" Tweet some retard made. I hope they all DIE DIE DIEEEEEEEEE. Bitches.
>>561190906yeah UNI 1! fuck roll back and kagura!
>>561190906If they give Wagner a longsword or flamberge and drop the shitty shieldcuck shit that doesn't fit her character design, then I will.
>>561190906Sorry, UNI is comboslop worse than even 2XKO. I'll give it a try if they cut the average combo length in half.
>>561190906yeah sis, this time for sure unitroon inbreed shill
>>561190906I'm certainly in agreement that your gaping, steaming hot pink bussy is begging for a nice sturdy long rod.
>>561190906I'm just gonna go get slime rushed in Dix if Grub dies, it's the most heterosexual modern game and has a ton of players.
I’m fat and ugly and I like this game
>>561190906>when this game properly dies once the new 66L mechanic comes outjudging from what they said it'll be at least 4 months before we get that update. the game wont even make it that long. ill be playing strive 2.0 bros im sorry
I'm thin and ugly and I hate this game
I'm a retarded fucking tranny who deserves to die and I love this game
>>561191384>>561191913you wouldn't say that to my face. i'd crush you like a bug, chudcel freaks.
>>561192383live, cagxister.
>>561192339>>561192383
>>561192509Is there any game where I can get hard carried like I do here with Cogger?
Sex wiht chibi women.NYOW!
>>561190906I want to try Blazblue someday
>>561187595what a crybaby, I don't have sympathy for people that refuse to adapt to nerfs unless the nerfs force you to learn combos all over again
>>561192947No, xis. Every other game is too hateful and bigoted against us. We need to stick together
FUCKING GAY ANGEL GIVE ME MY GEMS
>>561193031you have no idea what I would give to have sex with chibislook at that ass going up and down
>>561193540>>561193031That's what plushies are for
just found out strive is fixing their game by removing slop that nobody wanted when will it be our turn?
>>561193529um your illegal djeeta mod caused this dc
why is it that retards in master always mash c.L / throw on wakeup unless I'm playing Vira or Cog, how many times do they gotta get hit by a meaty before the point gets across
How do I play meg
>>561193031
>>561194120Marippe's toes must be on screen at all time, if you fail to achieve that step then you just can't win.
>>561193815They'll triple down and add Ultimate 66L
>>561193835I assure you my friend this(legal) mod is essential for the optimal Djeeta experience
dont open. very big sister for the one guy.
>>561194537I won't open it then. It's not for me. It's never for me.
Your BlazBlue guest
>>561193176Minaba Hideo is a fucking master at drawing fat, hefty tits. Holy fuck, those look incredibly soft...
the charlotta cartel controls this general
and pigs can fly
Yeah I can! Got a problem with that?
prove you are a pig
I pronounce "Belial" as "Belly-all".Your move, atheist.
that doesnt mean anything. actually now im convinced you are a donkey
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAS RAYCIS
>Brick is the only person who has made a video talking about 2.60
>>561197524the doomgod in me wants to see cdmangaka stop caring
>>561197620He's almost one of the only commentator that isn't a total fucking dweeb why would you want that
>>561197726Just think of the Doom.
>>561197812I DON'T WANNA
>>561197915Dread it.Run from it.The inevitable cannot be denied.
>Doomfaggots are so concerned with what will be that they do not enjoy what is
>>561198504Imagine posting Lucillius while saying this
>>561198840Golshi is NOT brown
>>561198504You enjoy Metera and Vaseraga?
>>561198964I enjoy slapping her shit once I finally reach herI have not seen a single Vaseraga all month
Metera wanting/expecting me to smack her butt but me being too much of a gentleman to even think about it and her getting mad at me for not reading her mind
>>561197242His belly is all though.
>>561198269
>>561199327Dangerously matrimonial
>>561199492Got a problem, hopecuck?Mad your reps are gay and an incel?
that kat anon and shiro are cry babies that dont wanna put in the work and suck ass at other fighters
getting crushed by sheeps FAT ASS
>>561201601Nothing would make me happier...
Do u guys use mouse or controller
>>561202139I use my mouse
>>561202139>or
I mean keyboard>>561202139Fuck
Is there a place/site with actually decent guides for characters? The dustloop for this game sucks ass. Most if not all the character pages are either half finished or extremely outdated or both. I'm specifically looking for a Belial.
>>5612033962B's character page is 100% complete. it even goes into obscure combos/tech/setups you dont see people use much. it also covers every single matchup she has
nigga really needs a guide for "66L until they get hit, bog standard special normal special combo, BC back if they BC you, 66L some more, bog standard combo into super"
>>561203396Belial is one of the only characters with guides you could find by just typing it into youtuberetard
>>561202139I use my large, throbbing, wrinkled brain to directly input the command directly to FKHR who then play the game for me.
>>561203396There are a bunch of guides on youtube, just make sure to watch the more recent ones because Belial had a tiny little change, alternatively you can try discord, but I wouldn't recommend it. Beyond that, you're just plain shit out of luck when it come to character guides, so you'll have to fall back on watching high level replays.
thoughts on the diddy blud on the calculator?
>>561204579Based Neurolink chad
>>561203783This is why new fighting games are all dogshit. They get dumbed down for people that need youtube videos on how to play and what think and feel. 66L isn't enough as it is, they need it to crumple on hit and deplete meter and BP too so these RETARDS can feel good about their RETARDED gameplay and youtube guides. I fucking hate new fighting game players so much.
>>561203537why are they like this
>>561203537I hate dustloop so god damn much
>>561206524sorry I read only half his message before posting that
2B is not particularly attractive
its ok to be homosexual
>>561206645not youthe 2b playerswhy are they like that
>>561207461is filling out the dustloop page a bad thing
til lucilius's 214m is secretly plus or this game hates me and i should quit
>>561208032NYOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>561208032NYEEEEEEEEEEEES
>>561208032Objectively the most powerful image in /gbvsg/.
I hate friendslop, I just wanna grub
>>561209509then stop having friends
>>561209509WOE IS YOU, FRIEND HAVER
>>561209509It could be worse, imagine having to deal with loveslop and sexslop, truly a curse man.
>wah wah wah my friend group wants to spend time with meI genuinely want to punch you
I don’t need friends they disappoint me
>>561210521Oh shit she's ovulating run!!
i dont understand what fuzzy tech adds to game other than another thing that lag fucks over
do people remap back dash to a different button theres no way people are double tapping back
>>561211234Double tapping to dash was never a problem on the DS
>>5612072032B is an appliance, not a person.
Charlotta is my onahole
>>561208032All hags should look like this>>561208424There's a lot of things that should be punishable which aren't. Charlotta, for instance.
>>561210521Lewd
>>561211635turns out its because 214H is just a slowed down version of 214M and i thought the game just laggedbecause some asshole decided his ex moves shouldnt do the yellow glow
>>561211805Oh yeah, didn't they make that plus last patch? So it was actually distinct from 214M?
>>561211234What? Do you mean the dash macro?>4+Dash
>>561210023I don't mind playing with them but most of the time it's some co-op physics based thing
>>561212125that makes me start dashinghad to double check but nope that does not work
>>561212496you need to go into options and enable the backdash shortcutits not on by default cus lol
>>561212496This anon >>561212914 is correct.
>he won with the dashback macro enabledyou didn't earn it
>he wonyou didn’t earn it
>>561178167KUHUHUHU...
>>561214431Why didn't Djeeta spotdodge?
>>561214431yup thats my balancedchang
>>561214431OOH
>>561214431not a 2 toucher amirite?
>>5612149712 touch being possible and 2 touch being common are very different things.If this was how the average round played out then it would be a problem, yes.
>>561214431you have a dp dumbfuckyou are a reactionlet, you can cope with it
>>561215090post gm badge
>>561215058If this was how the average round played outso beatrix?
>>561215058Quite literally the average Wilnas game where Wilnas wins. Now all that considered, Wilnas isn't even near the worst offender of slop mechanics in this game, which should put the state of this game into perspective.
>>561215201Beatrix is a broken whore but no, even the average round against her does not end in 2 interactions. ...you do understand what "average" means, right?
>>561189203>cag got hit way harderPlease pretend you play the game
ISSA NOTTA TWO TOUCHAGAWDfighter 6 mogs this gimmickcel game
Just remove the side swap on 236U and Wilnas is fine. Change nothing else. No other nerfs, and absolutely no compensation buffs.
>>561215256>1st interaction>f.h into infinite corner carry ending into Aya Hirano screeching as the screen flashes blue>*Superjumps*>2nd interaction go>Lands and presses c.h at a slight delay, wins the rps>More Aya Hirano screeching (s)sba editionAre you retarfedThis is every beatrix game ever
>>561215434please speak English, subhuman turd.
>>561215483So you DON'T understand what average means, got it.
>>561215483Have you tried not getting hit fH?
>>561215507d'awwww, is timmy getting his buttplug in a twist becuz we ain't using perfect grammar KEEEEEEKback in my day we dunked you nerdcels into toilet bowls luhmeow
Inb4 he goes>Just don't blow gemmies like the scrubber you are!!! You deserve to lose!!!Except the other choice is to hold bea broken pressure which is a suicide anywaySo you bc to get off youThen she clips youThen you explode and dieWelcome to Sharting
>>561215642Funny how you would melty and shid up the thread if I said the same about le coggy broken f.h huhSo if it's shitrix it's fine?
I was about to post bea downplay hours but then I realised that this is gbvsg. Bea downplay is the default.
>>561215768Yes. It is fine when Beatrix does it and it is bullshit when Cagliostro does it. Any further questions?
>561215676lil bro fighting air
>if i use shitrix instead of beashit nobody will know its me!
>>561215898Why do you go out of your way to defend a broken sloppa. Serious question
>>561215850Feel free to post a significant sample of matches that indicate the average match involving her ends in 2 interactions. Should be easy, right?
>>561215875Yeah yeah we get it bigger blow your brains out rope unalive etc you know the drill by now
>>561215995cuz it makes some cagtranny seethe lmao
Cag is strong but most of you don't lose against her solely because of her specific bullshit. It's just that fighting any unconventional character triggers you
>>561216048Use your eyeballs nigger. Some things don't need to be explained.>>561216082>Making us excuses to downplay his mainYou can skip the cover you know
>>561216071>tranny ragespewBeatrix is fair, honest and for straight, well adjusted males. Cagliostro is broken and for mentally ill trannies.
>>561216250>Beatrix>Fair>HonestYou know for propaganda to work you need to have it be minimally believable
>>561216191So no sample or actual evidence of any kind, got it.
>I just want you to waste your time booting up grub and recording a webm that I'll shitpost anywayKill yourself
>He is still losing to a barebones, stock, mixless, straightforward, plain as cardboard shoto.You play Cagliostro. You have the entire Home Depot inventory as your toolkit at your disposal. The Beatrix player just has a hammer. You are getting outplayed.
cag is mid
>>561216582>You have the entire Home Depot inventory as your toolkit at your disposalSo... like a shoto? Where's my meterless dp so I can dp after minus like the shotonig I am?
>>561216581>too much of a passive aggressive little bitch to quote properly>post clearly indicates he doesn't even understand the argument in the first placeNot sure anymore if you are genuinely retarded or just pretending so that's my cue to stop.
>>561214431>Let's move the camera away from the character who is actionable and have it follow the character who can't take any actions instead!2026 and fighting games still have dogshit cameras, how is this still an issue? This genre genuinely deserves to die.
>>561216786Learn the matchup.
>>561216785Keep coping beafaggot no one believes your downplay around these parts.
Bros, in case anyone was wondering...DO NOT buy frozen Perdue nuggets. They fucking suck and I wasted 8 dollars on this garbage. I want to force whoever made this into endless Grandbruise Queues. They deserve to be stuck in the corner against a Grimnir, Metera, and Belial all at once
Beatodus
>>561216957I'm more of a Tyson's chicken tenders chad myself
>>561216957they have always been bad but they became extremely shit a few years agot. tendie connoisseur
dping after a minus ob because my dp is free and I'm a braindead top tier nigger
>>561217346I always UDP after a punishable minus special to take back my turn in case my opponent fucked up their punish.
>>561217247Any recs chickengawd?>>561217213Tyson's frozen stuff is pretty solid. I like their rotisserie chicken strips even if they're kind of salty too
>>561217474>Spending 50 meter to do what a shoto already does for freeYou ever think about how oppressed we are?
>>561217704>DP into full comboyou don’t deserve a meterless DP
But it's fine when beatrix has it am i right
>he's still at it
>>561218016my wife is so cute
>>561218119your wife is rather fat in the chest area
Are Zooey, Zeta, and Anila good? They're the only hotties I'm having fun mashing with, and the only other character I think I'm even remotely good at is just basic Gran.
>>561218185yes they're extremely good
>>561218123>me on the left
>>561218185there are no bad characters and optimal character strength doesn't matter at your skill level. just pick whoever you think is fun. you will suffer the same way as everyone else on the road to improvement. so you might as well pick your favorite
Bro called Zooey a hottie and thinks she's fun...BASED
Djeeta has less weaknesses than most of the top tiers btw
>>561218568Sure, all of her strengths are so mid compared to the top tiers
>we're now bitching about a top 15 charactergbvsg never change
djeeta players are just bad
Djeeta aka>Proto beatrix of her day>Top tier easy autopilot slop>Just like Belial she got a slight nerf to one, just one skill and absolutely nothing else while getting massive compensation buffs in her 5U>And just like Belial everyone dropped herReally makes you think
>>561219010EX Djeeta? More like SEX DJEETA
>>561218185Zeta is good but difficult. Anila is very easy but also very subpar, generally considered among the weakest characters. Zooey is somewhere inbetween the two. Ignore that other faggot who told you to just pick your favorite and that tiers don't matter at low-level play, he's just a drooling retarded Sajam watcher.
>>561219282absolute dogshit takes
>>561219203The sex icons of gbvsg
>>561219282>>561219363I also want to point out the person who says tiers don't matter at low-level play is the same person with an awful grasp on character strength. Character matchups, character knowledge and fundamentals matter far more than tiers in the majority of play
>>561219515tiers matter at low-level play*I'm tired
>>561219605No, you were right the first time. No need to correct yourself.
>Telling newbies tiers don't matter>They get curbstomped by Bea/Wilnas/Ferry drooling over their controllers while anon is working 9 to 5 to get sheep to work
>one small nerf
>>561219725Wilnas will never be top tier with that matchup spread
>>561219657people like you just need to cope over things you barely understand
>tiers... don't le matter at low levels!How are you faggots not tired of parroting this retarded opinion?
>>561219282>Zeta>Good
>>561220129Sajam watchers are a special breed.
>>561219971>AIEEEEE MY 2/3 SCREEN CORNER CARRY NOW BECAME...>A SLIGHT TOUCH UNDER 1/2 SCREEN>UNPLAYABLE TRASH BOTTOM 1 ISSA WORTHLESS CHARACTERVictim complex.
>>561220129tier lists are made for optimal play. most beginner to intermediate players don't even have a proper gameplan for every matchup and don't know how to abuse their character's tools to the fullest.99% of "tier" discussion in any fighting game space is vapid and just a way to generally complain about some vague perception of character strength. It's used as a crutch to whine about losing to things they don't understand.
>>561220261she got nerfed multiple times outside of that even if they were generally systemic.
>>561220378Yes, yes, I've read all the bullet points a hundred times already, that still doesn't change the fact that plenty of games (including Rising) have characters that are both significantly stronger AND significantly easier to use than others.Tiers exist at every level of play.
>>561220509>SystematicMeans everyone else got hit with the exact same changes. Shut the fuck up and stop being a whiny bitch.
>>561220642it turns out not every character is equally effected by global changes anon.
>>561220710Don't be silly, 2B was affected by 66L nerfs just as much as Djeeta.
that feel when you land a 10k triple U rekka combo
>most of the nerfs were universal ones aka not really a nerf considering everyone else got hit by them>still finds a way to bitch and moanOne day we will study the mind of a privileged top tier shoto player.
broshow do I beat someone doing DP to steal their turn backwhen the fear has been put into my heart my whole gameplan falls apart as I keep giving my turn away for free over and over trying to bait itim a masterlet
Yes, H rekka and 125% meter combos were the only things that made Djeeta good
>>561221169>nyoooo I have to play the game as intended nowI unironically despise you.
>>561221152just block?
>>561172486funny thing is that there aren't actual jam players, the same as baiken players until she was top tier in strive. everyone is just larping.
>>561220748it's funny because she was actually affected by the 66L change because her parry was indirectly buffed to be able to counter 66L despite being unchanged in the patch
>>561221169>H rekkashe was one of the few characters to get a consistent good reward off 66l before they powercrept everybody into getting cancels off it.
>>561221454Her 66L range was also nerfed
>>561221631It was only a minor nerf you retard
>>561172486Word can hardly express how much I fucking despise zoomiesHoly fuck man, what a faggot generation
>>561172486only way jam could go harder for retards is giving her vitiligo
>>561220554>Tiers exist at every level of play.Character strength does vary at every level of play, but perception of it varies more wildy from player to player.Do we make tier lists for lower level players? No. If we did, what metric could we measure strength off of? Different skill levels perceive things so wildly. Two players with only 100 hours can perceive a character differently. Player 1 might think a character A is broken while Player 2 might realizes character A's options can be OS'd. Player 1 says "character A is low on the tier list! I shouldn't be losing to this character/they're wrong!" What exactly is being gained here? He forms an opinion after losing to something that took 5 minutes of labbing to beat.And while tier lists are subjective, the whole point is to find the most objective ranking of power. For that you need as much data and analysis as possible.Tier lists can't matter for lower levels of play because their data is so much less complete. The best we can give them is some vague "this character is sort of stronger at your level." But that's still very unreliable depending on what type of player that person is.>that still doesn't change the fact that plenty of games (including Rising) have characters that are both significantly stronger AND significantly easier to use than others.Of course this is true. Some characters can be strong and easy at all levels. But some characters can be hard to pick up but be strong, and vice versa. In those cases, again, the tier list does not matter for the new player. Their problems are almost always fundamental anyways.I apologize for getting too heated earlier. I don't think I'm good enough to throw out any serious opinions about character tiers myself, but I hate how much importance people place on tier list discussion.
i aint reading all of that lmao
>>561222219This >>561220378>It's used as a crutch to whine about losing to things they don't understand.Is my main gripe with your argument.Sure, it is possible that is exactly what is happening, but it is also possible that someone, even without hundreds of hours of experience, is accurately assessing that a character has a tool (or tools) that is significantly easier to use than it is to counter and that he is playing an unfavorable matchup.
>>561223198Thank you Saint Sajam
>>561223198What does Vira order at Chipotle?
>>561223197>Sure, it is possible that is exactly what is happening, but it is also possible that someone, even without hundreds of hours of experience, is accurately assessing that a character has a tool (or tools) that is significantly easier to use than it is to counter and that he is playing an unfavorable matchupOkay I agree that does happen with some characters.However, even with the example you presented I don't believe tier lists matter much for him. Matchup charts, matchup discussion and reading up on counterplay might be more helpful so the player can cross reference it against their experience.Also, it is technically possible that someone can intuit a character's strength without hundreds of hours of experience. However, that is unlikely and not a reliable way to measure overall strength in the meta. Therefore, their perception of character strength is likely to miss the bigger picture (also including aspects like other tools in the matchup that don't necessarily make the matchup good but makes it playable. main bias is a thing too).
What do I do when this fat bitch with big tits (Galleon) sets up a meteorite in front of her and just sits there on a lead? I can't fucking move.
>>561224945you pray
>>561165359POV you said to a Cagliostro player that she's strong
>>561224945many are wondering this
galleon is low tier btw
>>561224945refer to this and nyote galleon's placement
>>561225389>>561225326It really feels like there's nothing you can do against a galleon when she has a lead and decides to set up a fortress. Who even plays like that? Did someone kill their dog recently?
>>561225389i still don't get if this is supposed to be a meme tier list or a real one
>>561224945Same thing you do when cag sets up a trap and stands behind it:Just die lol
>>561226057Cag traps go away after a while don't they?
>>561226192Yeah but she can just set them up again while pelting you with rocks and spears
>Galleon is weak to pressure with no meterless reversal options>Galleon has broken keepout tools so you can't get in to pressure her in the first place
What makes Ex neechang low-mid tier when she's basically just a fast Wilnas?
>she
>>561226252How about you learn the matchup instead of bitching all day on 4chan?
>>561226192She will surely overhead or throw you into one of them and combo you for 65% before they go away always
>vira can set up lumi for free whenever she wants>but cag and galleon are the problem
>>561226637>Galleon in the same conversation as Cag
>>561226637You are not seriously complaining about Vira. What's next? Yuel is high tier?
>>561226541A Cagliostro just won AWT and it was not even close, she lost a very small number of matches, all of the players who got raped by her on AWT should learn the matchup too i guess, right?
>>561221152Consider>they hit you with a DP, you lose ~8% health and you might have to block a bit>your pressure works, they lose ~40% health and they are still on the defensiveGo all in every time. Overwhelm their defenses.If you limit your offense before you've learned their defensive habits, you're showing them that they get to control the flow without spending their resources.Doesn't matter if they DP or BC you away several times; you establish the flow, only then you bait them when you know they're getting complacent/desperate.
>>561226758>Anon cannot believe that fighting games consist of 'reads' and that it's possible for a player to 'gap' their opponentZD gapped insanely hard. That doesn't automatically make the character busted. Sorry for the reality check.
I love fat bitch
>>561226792I got DPd by cag and lost 50 doe
>>561226848Shut the fuck up beatrix does the same and her dp doesn't cost 50 meter and doesn't require corner + setupniggertard.
>>561226827>That doesn't automatically make the character busted.False, big tournament winners are always busted top tiers, no exceptions.
There is only one thing that i ask to be removed from Cag, the ability to teleport in the air. That's it. She can still keep all of her other broken shit, i just want to actually be able to ant-air this character, I'm not asking too much.
>>561226834Holy...
>>561226989You WILL whiff your antiair and get punished for 60% and LIKE it
>>561226989If you want to anti-air cag you should be asking to remove her air ult trap. That's her real anti anti air. Her air TP is not that hard to check
the awt cag mirror proved to me that cag mains are not to be trusted considering the cag matchup.
I also love fat bitch
>>561226916>See Zooey sneak into top 8 more often Is she a busted top tier now? Come on, use your fuckin brains.
Hopefully after this AWT tier lists start considering placing Cag as the top 1 character, which she is clearly a contender for.
>>561227348>Upplay troon is hereOh yeah? Tell you what, I'll give you enough rope to hang yourself. Tell me, if Cag is top 1 where would you place>Beatrix >Sieg>Belial>MeteraShare with the class.
>>561227560Belial and Siegfried shouldnt even be a part of this conversation
Top 5 is1. Beatrix2. Metera3. Lowain4. Grimnir5. Cagliostro or Vaseraga
>play for 10 min>have to put down the game because every character is so fucking hot I'm getting dizzythe curse of Granblue
>>561227687>He thinks Belial and Sieg isn't top tier materialWear the dunce hat and sit in the corner.
>>561227760galleon can have my gallons...
>>561227760me when I fight against ballsack belial
The thing about shotos like Beatrix, Belial, Siegfried that gbvsgturds don't get that they are so well-rounded and overpowered that they still shit on the opponent even when they know the matchup. You can't say the same for Vas, Metera, Lowain, Bubs and Cag. For these sort of characters, they have to rely on the lack of matchup knowledge from their opponent itself to win.
>>561228036>You can't say the same for Vas, Metera, Lowain, Bubs and Cag. For these sort of characters, they have to rely on the lack of matchup knowledge from their opponent itself to win.That’s not true. Their main issue is that they have very polarizing matchups due to the nature of their kits. Those characters are still good because their offense is strong enough or can still significantly reduce the options the opponent has
>>561228160Exactly. They have bad matchups. But you're wrong on the 2nd part because once you lab them you'll quickly find out it's all fake shit you can stuff or react to.Now name me one of Bea's bad MUs. Or Belial. Go on, I'll wait.
>>561228295>But you're wrong on the 2nd part because once you lab them you'll quickly find out it's all fake shit you can stuff or react toSo why did a Cag when AWT?
>>561228372Clearly, these AWT finalists just don't know the match-up.
>>561228434so true cagxis
>>561228372Because ZD gapped Kojislopco.>Hehe I will spam my op backdash with my overpowered normals like f.h and you can't do shit about it>Meanwhile Cag has to fight for her life knowing every touch leads into coast to coast with blueslop 236U extender into belial signature pressureHe won because he was the better player. He won because unlike Kojishitco he's a character loyalist who stuck with his main thick and thin, through the ups and downs, the good times and the bad.Unlike mr 'I pick best shoto of the patch and run the same gameplay every match' kojishartco.This is not a difficult concept, anon.
>Be me>Value character loyalist being rewarded with their loyalty to the character>Value skill expression, execution and mindgames>gbvsg calls me a nigger because I don't subscribe to the same canned shoto gameplay of 66l into frametrap into 236H I really hate you scrubs. I bet you loved watching Luke v Ken every bracket for most of year 1 and 2.
Its easier to play cag than it is to play shotos. Cagliostro dictates the pace while the shoto has to play around that. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a brainlet.
>>561228747Just 2l the trap nigger. Then 66l cag after. Or if you're a total noob just press 236U for easy neutral win.Oh wow much difficulty to dictate muh own pace.
>Just 2l the trap niggerAnd that's how the Cag shoves her gilded spear into your arse.
someone make a cag discourse webm of his chibi getting hit by a prism in bruise
>>561228869>He acts as if every cag he fights is ZD, Pipipi, Space who can perfectly punish every attempt at removing trapsNice strawman.
>>561228558>Cagtroon yapping about another character's f.HWell golly gee willikers, what do we have, this here one of them famed "retards" I heard so much about?
Do it yourself, lazy faggot.
I am the king of /gbvsg/.
Why is Vaseraga considered broken when he dies to every zoner in the game?
>AIEEEE I HAVE>SUPERIOR POKES AND NORMALS>SUPERIOR MOVEMENT SPEED>SUPERIOR 66L>SUPERIOR U SKILLS FOR NEUTRAL SKIPPINGBUT I CAN'T MANAGE TO DICTATE MY PACE ON CAG I WILL NOW BITCH ABOUT IT ON THIS SHITHOLE
Nerf Cagliostro
Every since that retard posted that tier list here everyone thinks they know better than anyone else regarding balance in this game
Ive been trying to find high level matches to study and get better for this game, but all the ones i see on youtube look really messy and amateurish. Is the general skill level for this game just really low by comparison?
>>561229396Yes. Watch majors
>>561229396maybe…
>>561229396you can watch redlotta replays
Hot take but ultimate DPs shouldn’t give oki let alone sideswaps
>>561229396we just had a tournament where neither player knew the matchup in a mirror match…
>>561229396I honestly just watch replays of my character. If there's a character I have issues with I'll just watch their replays too. Try and notice the choke points of both and learn what stuff I can do and where.
Hot take but ultimate DPs should give meter refund on hit and on block, they are ult moves after all.
>>561229679Yeah that's a pretty hot take. I very much disagree. I think we should lean the opposite direction and remove refunds.
hot take: character should have variable wakeup timings. with zoners suffering from longer knowdown time.
>>561229678Gran is kind of a Djeeta
>>561230016based
>>561230016t.
>>561230016So zoners that can also rush down like cagliostro should suffer super hard knockdowns where they cant move for 5 seconds?
>>561224945Just block? It's all mids and lows.
>>561230283zoner already do rushdown better than most rushdowns in this game. and zoner on zoner crime is not my problem.
>>561230428I have to go in and do something if she has a lead and time is running out...
>>561229396It is. After this AWT, some pros quit the game too, it's just not a really competitive game or with a very fun competitive environment. Between the general character balance and system mechanics it becomes a chore at high level and you should only treat it as a casual game. That said, if you're new you can learn something from them still.
i keep losing to wilnasas soon as that fat fuck brings me to a corner I just explode to the high low mix up
>>561230547Fireballs?Blueslop?
>>561230574>After this AWT, some pros quit the game tooWho?
>>561230650Fitizen, for starters. Even though, he already soft quit the game way before that.
>>561230607>Fireballs?Spot dodged. Mistime one and i eat U meteor.>Blueslop?They block or dodge and I now have no meter...Maybe I just happened to come across the lamest Galleon player on earth but I genuinely don't know what to do in this situation
>>561230689Damn, it's true.But as you said, it's just one guy and he was already not very active at that point.
>>561230819Well I mean if those tools are not effective for some reason, then that just means you were predictable with them. Blueslop is very strong and so are the fireballs, especially against grapplers, perhaps you were using them at a wrong distance. If someone is very patient I would just 66L them until they are forced to do something maybe you could have done that.
>>561229678Gran is in "Technically Djeeta". Mom (and Ruria) are in "Half a Djeeta"
>galleonwhy am I stuck in proximity block for half the match?
>>561231221footsies are not allowed in our game good sir
>>561231135A Djeeta is a Djeeta. You can't say it's only half.
I dont think SBA shortcuts should exist.
>>561231135How is Ruria half a Djeeta? If anything Djeeta is half a Ruria.
I think you should shut the fuck up
not mice.
>>561231727Mmh, yeah. You're right.
>>561231403A+ for effort, unless that was an image that already existed.
For me it's all about Sheep
I think they should nerf overall damage by 40% but bring back technicals doing 15% everywhere in the system mechanics overhaul patch.
>>561231403>Before explaining why Cagliostro is fair and honest, we need to talk about parallel universes
I think they should kill this game off and release another Relink DLC after EOR.
i cant check right now but can you change the sba input to be 632146 instead?
I hate all of you and aya hirano
>>561234151bass-kun…
shower thought takeMeter capacity increased to 120Ultimate costs 40 metersecond Ult during a combo costs 60Invincible Ultimate costs 60 meterSBA costs costs 100, SSBA costs 120No immediate meter refundsbut Meter gain doesn't stall if your blueslop hits
I'm going to masturbate to Ferry now
>>561234752>U bros and U butterfly get used way more often in every round>they get their meter back faster if they hitFuck that
>>561234752>bubznig>absolute shit takehehehe
>>561226834>>561226834>>561227173Goddamn I need to get crushed by her thighs
>>561234752this is the kind of useless patch that doesn't change anything that cyniggers will probably do
>>561234752what is this schizo shit my man
>>561231403Ok TJ “”””””Henry”””””” Vyrn
>>561233204>bring back technicals doing 15% everywhereBut that has never been the case at any point.
>>561235995Technical always did more damage in vanilla
>>561234752W-What is the goal here?
>>561236054No they didn't, they only had increased chip damage. Only specific moves like command grabs and reversals had increased damage when done as a technical input.
>>561236210>No they didn'tLiterally, factually wrong.
>>561236252Go ahead, boot up vanilla and check Gran boot damage simple vs technical. It's the same.
>>561236210retard
>>561236210sadly, he’s right
>>561233204I don't think motion inputs needs to be rewarded that much. It's not as difficult as people like to pretend. The small cooldown reduction was a nice idea.Charge inputs at least require you to concede movement and options like 66L, so I think it should be buffed.Ideally, I would say they should reward technical inputs on single hit confirms.
>>561236680>It's not as difficult as people like to pretend.I agree. So everyone should do them. Because they are not that difficult.
>66L should be rewarded
66L should not be comboable without CH.
66L should cost meter
>>561236307I checked. His boot damage is the same, but fireball and dp damage is different. Technical does more there. Same with Kat.
>>561237123i think you should be able to link far jab or close jab if you're really lucky, linking cM after it is busted
S3 (Sara 3)
>>561236771Not really. Simple inputs greatly lower the skill floor while motion inputs (236, 214, 22 at least) barely increase the skill ceiling when done as a cancel (although manual timing on a link or in neutral should be rewarded).In other words, simple inputs give easy access to the basics of the game within seconds, instead of spending a dozen of minutes of training, while motion inputs aren't particularly advanced techniques anyway, so the trade-off is in simple inputs favor, if that makes sense.Typically, I could play any random character I've never played before and still manage to have fun with the game without spending a second in training mode.
>>561236894With death
>>561237874>Typically, I could play any random character I've never played before and still manage to have fun with the game without spending a second in training mode.You can always do this regardless, because technical inputs are easy.
>>561237690Yeah. Fireballs, reversals and command grabs do more, other moves do the same damage but slightly more chip. IIRC supers do the same damage but the cinematic triggers from further away. There has never been a version of the game where technical inputs do a flat 15% more, which is what the original contention was.
>>561237874all 3 lines of this post is some coping with little sense desu
>downplaying technical inputsi smell a pad playing, simple inputs using, programmer socks wearing cag main
>>561239307I noticed so many pad players in Rising and it's pretty funny.
>>561239307i have never used the skill button in an actual match, besides when i picked lunalu a few times and didn't wanna guess what the character's inputs were
>>561239307>>561239384What's wrong with playing on pad?
>>561237820>>561238495i like this character
>>561239127>There has never been a version of the game where technical inputs do a flat 15% more, which is what the original contention was.Yea, I was wrong on that. Although it's not only reversals and command grabs like you said in the first reply either, but also fireballs and fireball motions specifically. So lowain and ferry get the same tech-bonus for example. I just wanted to make that clear.If anyone wants me to test something neat in Vanilla right now, feel free to ask, before I uninstall.
>>561239997>fireball motions specificallyI think it's just projectiles, not tied to the motion. Pretty sure Vira doesn't get any damage bonus on her 236X but does get it for 22X. I guess you could check that.
>>561220863VERY sexually charged image
I do technical inputs with the analog stick.
>>561165218Very cute Yuguyugu.>>561231727Cute Ruria and Ruriamum.
>>561239942Me too
Are simple inputs bad
>>561239818nothing, but niggas will tell you how funny you are playing on a pad because they started playing fighting games 20 years ago and got so used to lever that thats all they play on, thinking of it like some kind of pride when the truth is no matter what controler you use, be it lever, leverless, keyboard or a pad, you get used to the inputs in the first ~3 monthsand dont forget that the same people think that somehow doing 236/623 input (which 90% of games let you cheat through it like doing 33 to get a dp input) is so incredibly hard they yet again take pride in it like its somehow alien and impossible to learn, while the truth is people just want to have fun from the get go and everyone and their mother tells you these days "start with easier inputs and transition to classic if you want" but the "want" part never comes because the advantage is so small that new fighting game players simply dont see the change being worth when they already play on easy inputsnot to say classic inputs might put you at a disadvantage in some areas too, so the only time a new player learns classic is when he gets bullied by people by constantly hearing that they should give classic inputs a try because its "the way its meant to be played"the take away from all of this is this - know that everytime you use a pad, and especially easy inputs, youre making a grandpa mad as hell, especially if you winevery simple input DP you do to counter their jump or super makes them seethe so much they are actively losing hair from their already bald headdont forget that the grandpas will get surprised why fighting games have such low player retention because new players give up within the first 2 weeks of trying classic inputs like they are told when asking about shit in this community, instead of just going for simple inputs and having their brain power actually learning the game
I do technical inputs with my dick.
>>561238071Yes, but I need to know their easy-to-do motion inputs, and get a bit of muscle memory going. Because of the logarithmic nature of progress, that task is exponentially more tiring than using simple inputs. With simple inputs, you know you have four specials, 5S/2S/4S/6S, done. It's an order of magnitude easier, even though the motions are still easy. Put roughly, you're going from 1 to 0.1, even though the most difficult task could be a 1000 in terms of skill.Let's say I'm a beginner that have downloaded the Free Edition of the game. I want an overview of the 40+ characters currently available. I check (5/2/j.)(LMHU), the dash attacks, the skills and play around to see what connects. With simple inputs, I'll be done within 1 hour and already find a main. With motion inputs, I would need 4 to 5 more hours. 5 hours is nothing for us who spent 1000+ hours on fighting games, hence why I say motions are easy, yet it's a lot of time spent for somebody that has never played any.You could say that "yeah, but the players should make the effort to learn instead of relying on easy inputs, that's what competitive games are for", and I wouldn't disagree. I think SF is not SF without the motions for instance. But that's clearly not the choice nor the design of Rising, and I don't think they are fundamentally wrong with that either. Accessibility is an issue particularly relevant for IP-based fighting games.>>561239307A dog can do an hadouken. I'm not the one saying this, but motion inputs advocates. What I'm saying originally is that the skill is not in the motion in the majority of the cases. You're not doing a Pretzel input on every fireball as far as I know. You have a comfortable buffer window to input your directions, sometimes with shortcuts.
>>561240790i don't care about inputs but i hate people who bitch about "muh cheatboxes" even though i don't use one
the market is back in the green today
trading stocks is middle class
>>561241202>You could say that "yeah, but the players should make the effort to learn instead of relying on easy inputs, that's what competitive games are for", and I wouldn't disagreeThen I won't bother making a long winded post and use up my energy for the day, since you already understand. Technical inputs are easy, it should be a filter for those bad or lazy enough to get filtered by them. Insert any sports/music related example in this that you already probably heard many times.
I use an arcade stick, because back in the day I noticed I noticed that I had hit my maximum potential with the pad, which was not that much. Having had used various types of joystick in the past I knew it would improbe my performance. Also, I ran through like three or four pads in about two and a half years after starting to play fighting games regularly.
that's why we buy and hold instead of trade
ok grandpa
>>561241635>i noticed i noticedits over for you
>>561241948NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>561242051what the FUCK
>>561242225>not knowing your JWong lore
>>561242051>>561242285just like my doujins
if a girl with really big boobs started starving, would they like, stay long and shrivel up, or would they just shrink?
>>561240207Yeah, you are right. Vira's stabs don't get anything but lumi does.Some more interesting examples:Seox gets the buff on his dive projectileCag gets it on spears and even trapsEustace's whole kit gets it, lightning, grenades, even the stance U projectiles. Abel's stance U gets it as well.Frankly doesn't really make sense to me how all of them get the buff despite so many of the projectiles being so different in their use. Might as well let all inputs gets it.But nevertheless, cooldown differences are very noticeable so even without the dmg buff the technicals are very heavily encouraged. Also range differences in SSBA cinematics are pretty cool as well.>Max range Vira's 2U with simple SSBA (half circle + SKL and U) doesnt get it>Max range 2U into tech SSBA (two half circles + U) goes into the cinematic completely
>>561240790>>561241202>wall of textsorry, cagsis. i ain't gonna bother to read that shit.
>>561242959I'm sorry. I can't be concise. At least it makes this general more than a schizo den.
>>561242607In one fantasy novel I read years ago a famine hit one of the group of characters. The busty bitch ojousama of the group wasn't obviously too happy with the situation but found a silver lining in that with her getting thinner her boobs looked even larger in comparison. Take that as you will.
>>561243294>In one fantasy novel I readso in reality they just shrink
>>561220129>high level gene tard tells you what it's like at the low levelShut up.
pumping high level genes inside rat
you ever notice how its always men gransitioning to women and never the other way around
>>561239818Nothing. A pad is objectively inferior to any other input method for FGs so it really hurts a boxtranny's ego when they lose to a padchad to the point they have to scream about it on 4chinks.
>>561245001truke
>>561220129This is one of those fighting game opinions I feel like people pretend to have to seem enlightened and above it all.
>>561220129People are simply pretty stupid and intellectually lazy. Tiers "don't (necessarily) matter" on low levels for more complex characters (except that they may have very strong easy stuff too). But many top tier characters are also super easy to play. For example, even if you're a complete beginner you will do much better with Chun-Li in Third Strike than you would with any other character, and could start beating many more low tier experienced players if you stick with her.
>>561244792That's me and my friends for the 20+ years we played fighting game together. We all sucked roughly the same so it was fun, though.
>>561246306Yeah, same here. Fun times.
Gene-havers being the only voices in the fgc is why the opinions and discourse are so bad.
>>561246475Games wouldn't have baby mode control schemes if that was true
Odds and I continue playing this character for a couple of days.Evens and I finally start learning THAT character.
>>561246635You say this as if anybody actually likes modern controls at all
>>561246793Did you not read this thread?
>>561246741societte would never punch wtfffff
>>561246793Many casuals do, which just proves that gene-havers are not the only voice in the fgc.
Lobby statsu
>>561246941proof?Fighting games are still dead in the water, 2xkuso died on arrival, Grub has been a joke from the start, Tekken and Strive are still in the top 3 fighters, with a majority casual playerbase and neither have modern controls.Japanese Street Fighter players are the only people who have so little pride that they don't mind playing on baby mode. Nobody else wants to.
The snow melted away really early this year.
>>561247775NIGGER IT IS ALMOST APRIL AND THE SUN STILL HASN'T COME OUTEVERY SINGLE WEEK "OH ITS GONNA GET SUNNY AT THE END OF THIS WEEK"*SNOWS*EVERY SINGLE WEEK "OH ITS GONNA GET SUNNY AT THE END OF THIS WEEK"*SNOWS*EVERY SINGLE WEEK "OH ITS GONNA GET SUNNY AT THE END OF THIS WEEK"*SNOWS*EVERY SINGLE WEEK "OH ITS GONNA GET SUNNY AT THE END OF THIS WEEK"*SNOWS*FOR FIVE FUCKING WEEKS NOWIT IS ZERO DEGREES AS I FUCKING TYPE THISSHUT THE FUCK UP
>>561246000>>561246276See >>561244293 and shut the hell up.
>>561247164SF6 is mogging everyone and modern is extremely popular. Especially to the world tour and avatar battle crowd
>>561247930what the sun disappearing does to a motherfucker
>>561247930Winter sun is actually really bright here starting from February or late January. It's great. Wish it was still a bit more colder and snowy, though. With it gone it looks pretty lame with the bare dead ground. But at least the winter was proper cold this time with no warm days.
i am going to play final fantasy x 2
>>561248348>starting from February or late JanuaryAre you posting from some kind of night dimension?
>>561248541I don't think so. Walking on a frozen lake with -20 degrees, clear skies and sun shining is great.
>>561248303I find it pathetic that the sun coming out instantly turns me from suicidal to only background depressed
i love the late spring/summer weather because i'm not fat and don't overheat easilyhave i told you that i despise fat people?
>>561249216i do as wellno matter how clean they are they feel dirty and grossit's like with the disabledit's not contagious but you feel like you shouldn't be near them
>>561249216I still remember around last year, making a comment about missing summer, and another anon replied with something like "this guy is not fat". I never realized how simple this is.
>>561248523>bought the remaster bundle and never even booted it up>i bought it back in early 2019
The snow melted and in here than usual. Global warming is very much real.
>>561249427Fuck summer. 35~ degrees sucks no matter how skinny you are
>>561249646global warming is a damaging misnomer because it makes retards think it does nothing but make everything hotter so if its ever cold then it's not happening, but in reality it causes freak cold snaps and blizzards because the warming climate disrupts the polar vortex, sending that arctic air out into the rest of the world and accelerating the melting of the arctic ice even harder.
>>561247775SEX WITH SARA
>>561249791I'm so fucking sick of everything being so cold all the time. All winter long it's cold, these brown niggers cry and put on 3 winter coats before it even snows, and then the second spring and summer comes everywhere has to BLAST the fucking ac for some reason.
Another abhorrent zoipost.
zoiturds are truly braindead apes.
>>561250260Looks like blast havers won this round...
i want the brown/asian countries to stop dumping trash into the ocean
>>561251317brother you are morbidly retarded
>>561251380>India, officially the Republic of India, is a country in South Asia. It
>>561250505>i wonder what tribe of small hat wearing hook nosed freaks could be behind this whole ordeal hmmmmkekhander, you can't say that over there...
Meet your EOS guest
>>561252169Only if she looks and acts like this.
>>561250505idiotic take, as expected of a nierposter
>>561252169>strivetrash designkill yourself
>>561249852It really is dangerousWasn't there some retard politician who literally had a snowball in his hand during a speech or whatever, as "proof" that global warming was not happening? kekAnd a bunch of similarly retarded people agreed with it
>>561252310my guilty gear folder is all just lewd I-Nos but strive smellphelt is infinitely superior
>>561252472shit strivetrannies say
>>561252169>CoalburnerStrivers can keep it.
>>561252472I dunno about superior but she does have beautiful fat thighs.
>>561252543>wants to marry everyonegood! my cute and slutty wife!!>wants to marry everyone, but other races existAAAAIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!! DAISUKE SAMA HOW COULD YOU KEK ME LIKE THIS I COULD NEVER COMPETE WITH THE BBC
>Another day of being raided by soiversI'll just use the discord instead
>>561252881Yes.
>>561252881Her arcade mode is literally running after Nago the whole time and asking to get married.
>>561252951except for the part where she tries to marry faust
>>561252951no it's not retard
>>561252881Correct.
>>561253062sorry you have to face reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6zvJOYwKy0
*CRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCHCRUNCH*
>>561253612Finally someone who is not a roon posted
In Aba's arcade mode Para says if he had a body he'd rape Elphelt and Elphelt's like "ooh, rape? how forward!"
>>561253297>Elphelt used to be interested in every male>slowly remove that to make her music career her more important trait>but she's still marriage obsessed>make her go after the new OC to give relevance>now all lewd art of Elphelt is forever blacked because the fandom sees it as canonI hate idiots
>>561254339very cool greentext trying to shift the narrative, but it doesnt change the fact that her arcade mode is her going for nago the whole time from start up until the end like was said and you have nothing else to say and your claim to otherwise got btfo'd
Please go back to your thread friends
>strive out of nowhere
Imagine being so retarded that you think any post longer than a single sentence is automatically disagreeing with you and lashing out at someone on your own side because they typed too much for you to handle
>>561254540We love Strive here
>Imagine (mindbroken babble)Weird.
>>561254815there is something hot about
This is how the people disagreeing with me sound in my head while reading their posts.I can't really read their posts, because the words are replaced with the sound of gargling cocks.
>>561254925yeah
>>561255049Bea is pretty cute
>>561254815That is a massive fucking sink holy shit
>>561250256this
I think Dizzy is pretty...
Sara is a very sexy barely teenage child
>>561255103>Being a sinklet
I'm jumping ship, allowing soivers here will kill the thread eventually so, better leave while it's still decent
>>561255190bikki love
>>561255114
>>561255190>we likely won't get fun crossover art again because of the ArcSys Cygames tournament splittragic...
>he doesn't know
>>561255205>barelyMore like 'pre'
>he know
>>561255309half the people here have always been ex soivers
>>561255454Holy......
>My sexy underage child wife who isn't even a teenager and is very very prepubescent!!!!>god stop saying pedophile you're making it lose all meaning! Pretty sure you're projecting actually!!
>>561255698Yup I say both of these things
>>561255512B-bro it was supposed to be a secret, now everyone will know...
>>561242959Daigo here reflects my soul
>>561255403I mean, the same narrative keeps being parroted but most of the anons i've checked have not played strive or at least not for long, yes there are a handful but that's it and even among those a bunch have not played for months or up to a year so going>ACSHULLY WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOIVERS AND LAME AND TRANS BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW!!Makes me think you're actually a grifter trying to murder a good thread
>>561255698I make those exact posts to bait (you)
>haven't played since Friday>weird headache, swollen tonsils, can't focusGo on without me, not today...
>>561256116sorry i gave you my mould
>>561255969>ACSHULLY WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOIVERS AND LAME AND TRANS BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW!!This but unironically
we luv sheephttps://x.com/IiIiikmn/status/2032049301267120429bonus bearhttps://x.com/meganezumi_gbf/status/2032378187263717857
TO is literally THE ggg TO just so you know.
>>561256379>gggnever heard of it
>>561255698Yes. Any questions?
>>561254540Mr. Pilnas did it betterhe also shows more skin than her...
TO feels like a Johnny player
yeah I came from strive, yeah I main meg, what are you gonna do about it? ft10 me? don't think so
Jam getting chubby is an improvement.Literally everything else is a downgrade
>these niggas don't have massive sinks in their homesi am disappointed and a bit disgusted to be frank
>>561256617i miss having a sink so much
>>561256617>>561256617>>561256617>>561256741>>561256741>>561256741>>561256741let that sink in
>>561256487grinding gear games
>>561256852
>>561255391>Persona 4Finally more Nanako ludo this year.Also, Persona Arena Ultimaximummest next year.
my internet keep taking massive fucking shits and die. I think it died like 4 times in the last 20 minutes or something
>>561257089corgliostro
>>561257102Region? War status? Please stay safe.
>>561257102Region? War status? Please die asap.
>>561257102kill the russians
>>561257102Religion? Raw status? Please scrape face.
>>561256379Yes, and thread was so garbage he would never host a guilty gear tournament again
>>561257102shouldn't have downloaded all that sheep AI slop
>>561257505Right, except he hosted like 20 of them over the course of multiple years. The only reason he stopped is because people stopped joining them. I know, I joined one of the last ones.
>>561257089>Zangief_dream>Doesn't play a grapplerThis is false advertisement
ggg lobbies died because the only person who would make them played M*llia and p*temk*n
>>561257670He's just dreaming about Zangief. It doesn't have a deeper meaning.
>>561257658Anon you're so fucking dense you keep missing the point, you're talking about the soivers from yesterday, I'm talking about the soivers from today, you let them in and hope you have fun reading shit like whatever was going on earlier on a regular basis, if their thread died when their game is in a good spot and getting updates there's a reason for it
>>561258126if a soiver was the one saying garbage yesterday like>hurr the fgc is one big unified community, you should embrace the fact that you are a part of the fgc because this is a fighting gamethen yeah I hate them too
>>561257670>Cag>not a grappler
>>561258126There is no soivers of yesterday/today, the hell are you talking about? What did your mind make up?>>561258450>mindbrokenI'm sorry the reality upset you that much, anon.
>>561258850>the realityyou lost that argument multiple times but just kept on saying word salad so you would have the last word
>>561258470Cag might be a grappler, a zoner and a setplay character but at least he's not rushdown
if you think vira or yuel is high tier you need to get yourself sterilized so you don't damage the genepool.
>>561259160this but unironically, cagsis
>>561259160Yool is top 5 on the smell tier list
>>561259067that's just cope because you had no logical retort to anything. you just dont like being in the same large boat as trannies, and that's fine, but you are still objectively wrong
>>561259275you called me a niertranny yesterdayand siegfraud the othermake up your mind
>>561260067>>561260067>>561260067NEW
>>561258450>Making up arguments in his headThe state of you
