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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9184 - I Will Never Let You Go! edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #86 - 08 April 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 13 May 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - Summer 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 15 December 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
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>Milestone pastebin:
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>SAGE
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>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Sonurge is the endgame of the franchise
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>"The previous thread was absolutely terrible. we demand compensation. make this one more interesting, keep the sour but not too much sour. previous thread was flavorless. the additional salt didn't help. how did you even think that much salt would be good!? let us talk to the staff"
>"...."
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my heroes!
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This is now a plap posting thread.
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>>561274956
Ew
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Plapping blaze in both of her holes back and forth.
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edgy and serious is good for the soul
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Blaze MEOWING at the top of her lungs while I cum inside her.
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>>561275003
No. This is now a potential thread. Talk about story and game ideas for your favorite characters
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Why do human women love Sonic so much?
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>>561275119
>>561275225
Mating pressing the cat and making an heir
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Honey the Cat!
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>>561275349
Plapping Honey's sweet Honey
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>>561275283
Sonic Forces should've had a Dynasty Warriors level type so you could play as Knuckles, Silver, Omega, etc
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>>561275283
>story idea
A storybook game that takes place in feudal/mythological Japan
>game idea
A musou Sonic game
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>Say something objectively right about Sonic and Modernshit grimdark drivel being shallow garbage.
>Darkagevirigns seethe to oblivion.
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>>561274839
>>561274949
>sonic and amy give up on each other and settle for shitty ocs
a fitting end for modernshit
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Try making a decent game first, THEN we can talk about Japan culture.
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>>561275283
>Knuckles boxing game or wave defense on Angel Island
>Rouge in a Monnaco 1 like game
>Tails in any mechanics/building sim for the tests
>Amy as the protag for Dating Sim slop
>Sonic but in an actual good game
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shadow is a chud
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>>561275560
They’re that sensitive.
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>actually defending Steven fucking Universe in the last thread
Jesus Christ.
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>>561275560
If you need Sonic to devolve into edge slop that almost killed the franchise in the first place then you need to revaluate your life choices and understand the franchise isn't for you anymore.
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>>561275560
I prefer dark age linkin park grimdark over whatever the meta era is trying to be.

>>561275485
making that money
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>>561275720
tists*
Fuck my stupid humie life
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>>561275560
I like the dark age.
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>>561275819
What did I miss?
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>>561275560
If they’re not lashing out their unadulterated temper tantrums at people making valid arguments, they’re bringing up e-celebs and forum posters from the accursed 2010’s jewtube era for why their shitty games are hated.
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Hey handsome
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>>561275828
edge slop thrived the franchise
bad games however are bad. edgy or not
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>>561275283
Blaze the Cat solo game plssssss
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>>561275524
>Street Fighter 6: create an OC and become a protégé of your favorite character
>Soulcalibur VI: create an OC and become a protégé of your favorite character
>Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2: create an OC and become a protégé of your favorite character
>Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4/Underground/etc.: create an OC and become a protégé of your favorite skater
>Sonic Forces: create an OC and become the only competent character in the whole game besides shitnic and shitnic jr because sega and sonic team's 20 years of shit games destroyed the reputation of the entire cast
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>>561276042
>I like shitty games
ftfy
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>>561275283
A Blaze and Rouge action game like Bayonetta with multiple outfits for each
A Cream and Tikal game like Pikmin with Chao that involves both working together to stop an evil that exists in the past and present
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>>561276254
Genuine seething or (You) bait?
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Japan good west bad
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Post Sonic redesigns
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>>561276181
>edge slop thrived the franchise
And drove it into the ground so hard sega had to back peddle away from it.
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>>561276337
Based take, Cringe ship.
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Filling krack with kum
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Care Bears
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>Kit and Surge can't die no matter how much damage they take, and their wounds heal quickly, but I think that if they're subjected to too much force or strain, something will still happen to their bodies.
>For example, if an enormous amount of energy were applied to an arm and it was torn off bone and all... recovery would likely be difficult. Also, I think Kit and Surge's bodies contain artificial elements such as nerves, blood vessels, and parts of bone, so if the nerve connections were severed, I think repair would be difficult.
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>>561275852
when r u hosting agen
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>>561274956
>edit
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>>561276181
>constant pseudointellectual dialogue
>just lot of exposition and teen angst disguised as maturity, meaning, profoundness and depth
>attracts hundreds of retards with 2deep4u theories and dumb memes, "teehee :p your brain can't COMPREHEND how INTRICATE this is, and that's ok!! you're a fucking retard and that's ok!!!!"
Characters like Shitdow are made for mentally stunted pissbabies that haven't left their angsty teenage school shooter phase.
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>>561276181
Sonic edgeslop is the Archie to IDW's safeslop. Higher highs (SA2, Battle), lower lows (Shadow 05, Sonic 06), but still remembered over the middle like IDW (Lost World)
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I wish
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>>561276551
Badly executed Tanabatakino
I see the vision
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Cream the rabbit.
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Silver in the movies will be heavily implied to be the son of Amy and either Sonic or Shadow and moviefags will be left to argue about it forever
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>>561277328
awwww cute!!
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>>561277026
It wouldn’t be badly executed if we just got to see the relationship form but Shun Nakamura doesn’t think context is important for the audience.
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>>561276825
>IDW writers be like
This is dumb. Shadow was hardly like this in SA2, when he was on a suicide mission, and he grew tremendously in his interpersonal skills over the course of Heroes and 06. The "ow the edge" meme being accepted as his actual personality is a cancer that needs to die. It sucked when Shadow (05) did it, it sucked when Boom did it, and it sucks when IDW does it.
>>561276767
Cute outfit, cool concept.
>>561276973
Spot on. I came to understand this about a year ago.
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>>561277328
beautiful
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>>561275283
Robotnik shmup
i don't like shmups much but it just makes sense to me
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>>561275560
Shitdow was created the moment the modernshit branch jumped the shark to no return. It was all downhill from here the moment Sa2 and every other shitty game under the sun tore this franchise a new one. Nobody likes this brooding, narassistic, writer's pet, self-insert character except mouth breathing incels and trannies.
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Hand over the Muhria
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>>561277357
I just think it's kinda crazy Richmunk is now doing AI ABDL furry art.
I thought he got over that.
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>>561277020
I wish big titty mobians were real.
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>>561277506
SA2 had the decency to kill him off but the potential cashflow of faggots and fujos was too much for shitga to resist and look where we are now
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>>561277582
K
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She doesn't draw Shadow much.
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Tails x Chopper
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>>561277831
Amy more like Plap me
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>>561277831
I'm tired, Amy.
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>>561274449
Yandere Amy > investor board Amy
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>>561277328
More
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>>561277971
>>561278013
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>>561278054
sonic fans hated her because they saw themselves in her
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>>561278054
>Yandere Amy
Not even close. She's deredere.
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>>561277735
Money speaks louder than anything unfortunately.
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Wait, forgot the Lolipop one.
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>>561277971
I'M the plap poster around here buster
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Metamy. Any questions?
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>>561276741
probably pretty soon! I don't see why not. guess we could do the same gimmick as last time since we didn't really get to play it
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Convince me that Sonic blasting fat loads of fertile cum into Surge is ooc
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>>561278571
Does this mean Amy can say Clanker now?
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>>561278652
now that you've got mods we can actually play as different characters
and classic crusaders might like playing sa2 levels
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>>561278659
It isn't ooc, but Sonic staying with her and raising their child is.
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>>561277561
Is SilverXShadow is AmyXShadow for gay people
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>>561278659
It's ooc cause I'm the one blasting fat loads of fertile cum into Surge
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>>561278759
>It isn't ooc, but Sonic staying with her and raising their child is.
This. Sonic's a free spirit. Hooking up's A-OK with him.
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>>561278659
Sonic having sex would mean he lost his virginity and Sonic never loses when it matters most
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>>561278791
>silver realizes blaze is a cunt and goes for shadow instead
KEK
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>>561278571
No need. It's the best Amy ship by far and anyone who disagrees is simply mistaken.
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>>561279262
Stop projecting your lameness onto him.
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What would plapping Blaze in her super form be like?
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Bun!
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Surge and Sonic having consensual sex.
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>>561278652
Looking forward to it!
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>>561279582
Your dick burns all its nerves
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>>561279582
____________________
___________________________
______________hot________
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Sheep wife
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>>561279465
Stop projecting your save-a-cunt fetish onto him.
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Blushy Tails :)
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>>561279825
>save-a-cunt fetish
What?
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Surge's pussy leaking Sonic's cum
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sonurge romantic finale
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>>561278571
wife
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>>561279946
>he gets shocked every time he thrusts
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Sonic game but horror
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>>561274449
Great personality but Amy is canonically way hotter than that.
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>>561279645
>>561279686
Worth
>>561279624
>>561279946
>>561280128
I'd plap Surge, even if it fried my pacemaker
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amy's panties needed to be more detailed in the games. they looked like diapers
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Sally's pussy clamping around Shadow's dick like a magnet while he tries to shove her off
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The Core Six
& Knuckles
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Realistically if Sonic raped Surge it would feel worse than rape for Surge. It would be a special kind of horrible experience. She would see red. It would be worse than getting stabbed. Surge would cry until her eyes dry out and start vomiting from sheer disgust.
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>>561280840
I long for the day Sega stops being influenced by western bullshit and Rouge gets her boobs back.
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How will this affect crazy frog's legacy?
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Surge learning what sex feels like from Sonic
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>original
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Surge going from kicking and screaming to clutching and smooching
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>>561281650
>edit
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>>561281650
>Writer: Karl Bollers
oh good, I was afraid Penders had wrote something halfway decent.
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>>561281572
>>561281791
No Surge rape, unless she's raping me
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how did a game about a pinball with legs become such a churning clusterfuck of a franchise
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>>561281971
>how did Sonic-
Autism. AUTISM. The answer is ALWAYS --AUTISM--
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>>561278164
Wasn't there a scene in heroes where cream questions Amy and she does the Yandere stare?
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>>561281971
furries
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>>561274449
>SOA tells fans what they want to hear. SOJ/Sonic Team tell fans the truth.
Is this true /sthg/?
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>>561275318
Maybe you should try my sister Sonic, she's human.
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>>561281971
Adventure for the DC.
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>>561282040
No
https://youtu.be/02LkH5IYWlk?t=90
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>Surge: I HATE YOU SONIC, YOU RUINED MY LI-MPPHHHPH!!
>MPhphph! *smack* MPHhhph! *pop* *suckle* mmmmmm~

>plapplapplapplapplapplapplap
>gushgushsquirt
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>>561274449
Am I retarded? What is Amy holding there? What does this image mean?
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>>561281971
Modernshit and localizers ruining the franchise.
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>>561282324
I'M THE ONE WHO PLAPS!
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>>561280557
she needs to wear no panties
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>>561282324
Why is Sonurge so hot bros...
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>>561282294
And for JP
https://youtu.be/kIN_kjHwyIA?t=663
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When companies try something original or make a character that doesn’t look like a skinny faggot, these same people complain. That’s why everything is soulless.
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>>561281971
There’s a reason the fanbase is shat on
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>>561282345
>Am I retarded?
ABSOLUTELY
>What is Amy holding there?
that's a photo of Sonic
>What does this image mean?
it means Amy kidnapped and trapped Sonic in her bedroom, and now he's begging for her to let him go
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>>561282452
Tsundere's are build to be dominated.
it's why ntr is so popular
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>>561282503
>Moana is 10 years old
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>>561282759
I'd plap Surge but I'd also let her Amazon press me
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>>561282732
Hot, I'd love her to kidnap especially if I had to lick her feet before she'd let me eat dinner
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>>561280840
Tangle is such a sore thumb you can't even tell wtf she/he is by design
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>>561282324
>>561282449
>>561282452
>>561282759
You're just into rape
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Douge
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>>561281896
>>561282449
>>561283251
No I'm not
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>>561282452
Enemies to lovers is the best romance trope that's why
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Nice thread, Sonicbabs.
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>>561283372
You are, forcing sexual penetration without any consent, that's the definition of rape.
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>>561283508
Cool gif, Mariobro
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>>561279380
>>561280631
>>561280875
>>561281791
>>561281896
>>561282324
>>561282759
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>>561283668
Sally walking around naked with Tails in those dark and dreary locations where they never know if they will be alive the next day? She is taking his virginity just so that he gets to experience it.
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>>561283564
If she forces it onto me does that still count though
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All I got from reading last thread was that there are people on here who genuinely lack basic media literacy.
If you think Archie is grimdark then you have no idea what that genre is. It's serious enough that it takes it's story seriously but it's in no way an actual serious show with real consequences otherwise Sally would have died like a dozen times.

Be honest with me anons, have any of you read a single fucking book after High School?
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>>561283935
There's a fucking rape scene
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>>561283251
Dude, rape is fucking disgusting, when it's some Innocent girl being forcibly fucked by by some ugly loser. When it's some attractive yet extremely bitchy lady being sexually dominated by an actual alpha chad against her will, it's hot has fuck. Especially if she gives in and realises it was meant to be.
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>>561284108
And most cartoon shows have some depiction of depression, murder and suicide. I'm beginning to think you're conflating "mature" and "serious".
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>>561283820
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It's funny when it happens to men
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>>561283820
....Go on.
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>>561283935
I got a copy of Plutarch's Lives today, I'll read it once I've finished my Gaunt's Ghost novel.
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>>561283121
Ah yes, cause Knuckles is CLEARLY an echidna
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>>561282732
>and now he's begging for her to let him go
OOC bullshit. he'd wait for her to make the choice herself
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>>561284108
Grimdark as a genre is defined by everyone getting fucked and dying a miserable death or wishing they would and often times their efforts are in vane. That's not SATAM or Archie.
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>Aunt Sally? What is sex?
>I'll tell you when you're older Tails, you're too young for that sort of thing
>How much older will I need to be?
>Let's drop it for now please
>But what if that mean old Robotnik gets us before I grow up?
>...
>Meet me at your room, Tails
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Okay don't all fap at the same time it wasn't that hot
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>>561285273
I just got nothing to say at the moment. Eventually everyone will get tired of my plap posting constantly.
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>>561284685
>pomf
What are you we going to do on the bed aunt Sally?
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>>561284108
>There's a fucking rape scene
Deceptive rape.
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>>561284108
All about the tone and how it's depiction
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>tailspedo posts
>the thread dies
like clockwork.
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>>561285848
Proof Surge plap posting is superior
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>>561285831
*depicted
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>>561285831
>and how it's depiction
Good morning Saar.
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Surge's ass is YUUUUGE
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>>561286047
THIS IS HOW YOU REVIVE THE THREAD
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Your butt is huge
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If it's not grimdark then it sure has a lot of melodrama, shipping autism and contrived storytelling taking itself too seriously. But modernshit and other similar adjacent media lacks self-awareness and nuance to realize this.
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The Wind would rape the Joker
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>>561286224
Nuh uh
>>561286260
What classic game the best?
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I genuinely do not separate Classic or Modern Sonic at all in my head so these Hesseposts just come across as deranged to me. Like watching someone trying to fight their shadow on a brick wall.
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>Quadruple amputee cornhole champion facing murder charges in fatal shooting
I'm not fucking kidding
https://abcnews.com/US/quadruple-amputee-cornhole-champion-facing-murder-charges-fatal/story?id=131339058
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>>561286389
He will say Sonic 3&K, but the real answer is Sonic 1, the later games are too casualized by the Spin Dash and the easier, more streamlined level design

>>561286510
True
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>>561286513
>That smug smile
He definitely did it. Also did you draw this?
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>>561286513
This is the second most bizarre non-Onion headline I have read.
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>>561286389
Sonic 3&K and Mania. For fangames it's SRB2 and Triple Trouble 16-bit.
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>>561282503
>cgi remake slop
She's right. Compare millennials:

SNES release
<-6 year gap->
N64 release
<-4 year gap->
PS2 release

In 10 years you went from pixel uncshit to the first 3d games, to something mindblowing like GTA san andreas.

The games and movies released in 2016 look and sound exactly like the games and movies released in 202-- AHAHHA, actually no, the ones released in 2026 look even worse. Regression.

It's even more bleak if you look at movies, look at all the cool shit that came out in 5 year span of 1995-2000. What has come out in the past 8 years that was theatrically relevant?
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I love and enjoyed playing through all the Sonic games
Yes even Knuckles Chaotix
Yes even Sonic and the Secret Rings
but I would NEVER EVER put any of them on my Top 10 games of all Time.
No not even Sonic 3.
No not even SA2.
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>>561286707
>did you draw this?
no way, it was blue board anon
>He definitely did it.
yes, he did
https://youtu.be/0QmPjTkX70Q
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>>561286707
no it was shitboard anon
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>>561286513
I wonder when bba comes back with the deliveries?
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>>561286840
>The games and movies released in 2016
>look at all the cool shit that came out in 5 year span of 1995-2000
On top of that, people now constantly say that it's impossible to develop a full video game in less than 5 years.
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>>561286260
Modernfags are the only kind of people in the world that would glaze up the stinkiest pile of dogshit on the planet
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>>561286943
Yeah, hessefag is indeed retarded.
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>>561286510
If you can't differentiate between classic and modern then you might be retarded
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>>561286513
>>561286890
Crazy
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>>561287112
Truth. Modernfags can’t even give a good reason why any of their games are objectively better than classic because they all know they’re critically panned trash that they only think is good because of nostalgia.
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Why do people who lust after tails always do so in the most disgusting manner, it's always gross shit like "i want to blast the shit out of his asshole with my cum" and never something like taking him out to a nice romantic dinner.

You never see yumes for other sonic characters be as depraved as tailsfags.
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>>561287112
SONIC IS BACK, BABYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.destructoid.com/review-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-1/
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review?page=2
https://www.justpushstart.com/2010/10/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-1-review/
https://www.gameinformer.com/games/sonic_the_hedgehog_4_episode_1/b/xbox360/archive/2010/06/16/sonic-4-first-hands-on-impressions.aspx
https://kotaku.com/review-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-5668533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8__PP88BCY
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>>561286890
>that video
Bro I thought it was a fucking meme >>561286983
I'm not familiar with the names, but I like the art
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Tailsfags were the little bros who were player 2
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>>561287112
You can see this kind of rhetoric with unleashedfags.
>the werehog breaks the pace of the game and sucks to play as
>N-NUH UH, SKILL ISSUE
>it's a known fact that the game has performance issues
>P-PLAY IT ON THE SERIES X
>Chip is unironically annoying and not even in a meme way, his character just exists to eat food and exposition until the ending
>SHUT UP JOURNALIST
>Unleashed was overall a step down from the Adventure games despite being inspired by it
>M-MUH PASSION AND AMBITION
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>>561287296
Jesus christ
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>>561287294
Dumb shitpost, all characterfags have both types of fantasies regardless of the character.
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>>561287296
>"sonic's friends are making the games shit"
>sega removes the friends
>game's still shit
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>>561286992
probably never
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>Apparently some dude is trying to build a replica of the twin towers in Chicago to house AI data centres and he's legitimately making progress towards it with the city planning board

First they destroy the old world in a symbolic ritual, then they build a skinwalking replica containing everything bad about the new world as part of a humiliation ritual.
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Lovable character
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If Classic Sonic is so good, why did Mania and Superstars flop?
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>>561286992
what was the last anchor post
what were the requests
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Who can remember when this was all just fields? Shiny, stripy, bright green fields, lying under fluffy white clouds and skies bluer than the liquid in an Always ad. All right, it wasn't all just fields; there were neon-lit casinos, crumbling ancient temples and cities in the clouds, too.

And who inhabited these wondrous worlds? Not zombies, Nazis, mutants or drug dealers. Just a blue hedgehog, some small furry animals trapped inside robots and a fat man in a space helicopter. Good times.

But then it all went wrong. The Sonic series failed to make a successful transition into the brave new 3D world. Seeing our hero struggling round environments he wasn't designed to inhabit was painful, like watching your Grandma try to find a nice comfy pair of slippers in Urban Outfitters.

SEGA tried to paper over the cracks by introducing new characters, as if a slutty rabbit and a stupid crocodile would be enough to distract us from the truth. Then there were the experiments with role-playing and racing. Most recently, there was some ridiculous nonsense about werehogs and an attempt to shoehorn Sonic into the world of Arthurian legend. Inexplicable.

So it's a bit much, on booting up Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode I, to be greeted with old blueface grinning away on the menu screen, wagging his index finger as if admonishing us for some naughty misdemeanour. We're not the ones who have been rubbish for the last 15 years, mate.

But a few minutes later you'll be ready to forgive Sonic anything. Yes, even the hoverboarding incidents. That's because you'll be speeding, spinning and soaring around glorious 2D environments, across green fields and between fluffy clouds, pausing only to collect power-ups and bop robot fish on the head.

Sonic 4 isn't just a return to form; it's an apology for having been away so long. The differences between this and the old Sonic games are so few and far between that playing it involves existing in a constant state of deja vu.
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>>561287632
Mania was a success
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Some of you don't understand that Chip exists as a character for Sonic to inspire
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>>561287536
>make them replicate one of the world's most famous tragedies so no one fucks with it, otherwise they look like the bad guys
Of course...
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>>561287296
>modernshit game
your point?
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>>561287720
In what way? It sold below expectations.
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I just got recommended this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEpy0fncjdk
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>>561287632
classicfags realized free shit is better
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>>561279380
Does stockholm syndrome work with robots?
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>>561287141
>>561286943
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You start out in the Splash Hill Zone, which is basically the Green Hill Zone in HD. Other zones are based on the classic casino, ruined temple and industrial zones. They're all unlocked as soon as you complete the first level.

MISERABLE OLD PURISTS might complain about this. In ye olde Sonic games of yesteryear, death was final. Even if you'd made it to the last level you had to start again all the way from the beginning. This, the miserable old purists would say, taught children a valuable lesson, namely that life is nothing but a series of repetitive actions punctuated by crushing setbacks.

Just like the old games, Sonic 4 is brilliantly paced. The whizzy fast bits are punctuated by slow, tense sections, smart set-pieces and moments of seemingly impossible hardness.

Along with old favourite the Spin Dash he has a new move, the Homing Attack. This allows Sonic to zoom in on enemies while in mid-air and bop rows of them in sequence. It's a fun addition which fits in well with the traditional move set.

Another key difference is less visible - in fact, it isn't visible at all. The music in Sonic 4, while decent enough and pleasingly retro, is entirely forgettable. It won't jangle around your brain at night when you're trying to sleep like good old Richard Jacques' tunes used to do.

Those who didn't play or enjoy the first games might argue Sonic 4 feels dated and derivative. But this is a special case - it's the return to form of a much loved, much mucked-about series, and the fact it's so familiar has a lot do with why it's such glorious fun to play.

Sonic 4 is well worth the money. There are no 3D environments, no isometric viewpoints, no sidekicks or hoverboards or knights of the round table. Just a blue hedgehog, a fat man in a space helicopter, a good selection of well-designed 2D environments and some of the greatest gameplay mechanics in history.

In short, this is the game SEGA should have made 15 years ago.
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>>561287789
It sold one million in a year which is already more than a number of games in the same timespan. It was also well received by critics and general audiences
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So IDW 68 onward is set after Frontiers
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>>561287792
>Least weird Sonic Fan
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>>561287715
normies are going to let amy's movie obliterate this shit game's cultural significance
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>>561287773
It was praised by classicfags, if you read the reviews.
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>>561287920
People still read IDW? Genuine question.
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Sonic 4 was alright
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>>561287653
Last time he took requests he delivered them. He didn't make another anchor post since.
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>>561287296
Sonic 4 is a repurposed modernshit mobile game labeled as sequel to 3K. People were only praising it because it was doing the bare minimum after a decades worth of dark age garbage tarnishing the series. And even then when it released it was soon torn to shreds with the apparent flaws the game had and the fact sega absolutely could of done better. It's like celebrating your own child getting a d+ after an entire schoolyear getting nothing but F's.
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>>561287884
the humiliation ritual will continue until moral improves
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Requesting Saleta raping Silver sexually
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>>561287892
It's above the Wii U/3DS slop, sure, but one million is good, but that's below expectations for many Sonic games. Also notice how all the praise doesn't translate to play time?
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MEGANI SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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>>561288119
OHNONONONONO MODERNHEADS, WE’VE BEEN EXPOSED
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>>561288119
>Sonic 4 is only bad because it was a literally a reused modernshit game
The joke tells itself.
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>>561288065
It's not a good sequel to the classics, but that aside it's an okay game I think. Worse than most games that came out in the 2000s though.
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>Classicfags trying to disown Sonic 4
Nope, it was made for you.
It's yours.
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why didn't you play super stars? Why did you let spider man beat us?
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>>561288020
it was praised by shitsucker hacks not good enough for the new york post, who couldn't tell the difference between sonic 2 and yoshi's island.

just because modernshit was so rancid as to have every tom, dick and jane praying for it's downfall doesn't mean everyone who did that actually knew why the classic games were successful in the first place beyond "hur dur bright colors and no fishing"
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>>561288119
Anybody would see sonic 4 as a step up after years of shitdow being shoved down one’s throat and awful playstyles, writing and glitches plaguing the series for so long.
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>>561288302
>Modern designs
>Homing attack chains
>Built off of Sonic Rush
100% modernshit.
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>>561288217
The game was proudly PRAISED by self-proclaimed CLASSICFAGS and the reviews were used to shit on the modern games. They shat on classic characters like Vector because they ignorantly thought they were modern characters. They thought Richard Jacques composed the classic games when in reality he did Black Knight the year prior. CLASSICFAGS SAID THIS. You are not escaping this fact.
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>>561288302
While ShadowTH, 06 and Forces were all made for moderntards, enjoy your dogshit
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>>561288460
You'll never wash the stink off, bro.
Sonic 4 is a classic game. Embrace it.
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I don't understand some of the shitposters on here.
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>>561288302
It was more so made for critics that didn't like Sonic at all. Actual Classicfags wanted characters like Fang and Mighty back but with a similar gameplay to Sonic. That and a proper translation of the classics into 3D. These valid criticisms were then taken and twisted by critics as saying "Sonic friends = bad"
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>>561288371
The fact Superstars did as well as it did in competition with Mario Wonder and Spiderman during that year only shows the staying power of classic sonic. It sold more than modernshit games released previously.
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Classic fags are WORRSE THAN ARCHIE FAGS!
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>>561288563
There's fuck all else to talk about.
No game announcements.
The next movie is in a year.
The comics suck.
All we have is shitposting, so don't worry about it.
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>>561288371
why the fuck couldn't shitga throw enough money at whitehead and stealth for them to stay onboard?
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>>561288460
>Homing attack chains
Praised by ignorant classicfag reviewers as a great gameplay addition that only MISERABLE OLD PURISTS dislike. Classicfags in 2010 unironically said that problem with the modern wasn't the Homing Attack, but the presence of characters like Cream or character transformations like the Werehog.
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>>561288563
It’s one guy I believe
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>Literally has the modernshit design
>uh it's classic
Moderntards really are braindead.
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>>561288595
Sonic should never lose to Spider Man in videogame sales because Sonic is a gaming icon and Spider Man isn't
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>>561288604
Ok I don’t think I’d go THAT far.
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emii
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>>561288563
>>561288737
The classic stuff? Probably one guy, yeah.

>>561288371
I was more interested in The Final Horizon, which was free on top of that. It was a stupid decision to release them at the same time.
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>>561288854
No
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>>561282241
>SOA makes things fans want
>SOJ forces retcons and garbage media
Accurate enough under that lens.

>>561288604
And both are better than japsloppers!
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>>561288845
I would rather be raped by cannibals than listen to classic fags!
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>>561288659
Yea but is artificially dredging up thread drama that died years ago and samefagging your own opposition just to keep the fake flamewar going really the only thing they can do? It comes across as desperate more than anything else.

>>561288737
>>561288875
Yea, it's probably just 1 guy doing it but it's still comes across as incredibly desperate. Especially when I can tell it's only me, him and a handful of anons in here at once and no one is responding to him but himself.
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>>561288769
Spiderman is more popular than Sonic 10 fold. You're underestimating how much more people like him than sonic as a whole.
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>>561288769
Spider-man has better games
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Post wholesome
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>>561288659
We have Smurfs and Care Bears what more do you fucking want?
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>>561288990
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>>561288938
yea
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>>561288975
The answer to your question is the same answer to any questions about /sthg/ discourse:
4chan users are autistic.
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>>561288946
>nostalgiafags and people that worship a dead fanfiction are better than jap purists
Least delusional westtrannie.
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>>561288854
Sonic's wife
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>>561288946
>archiefag trying to draft classicchads onto their shitty team
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>>561288946
no one wanted this
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>>561288990
>Anpanman
Your pic is garbage and I'm not reading any further
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Just let the general die
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>>561289205
The future of Sonic!
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Would you apply?
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>>561289087
No
>>561289045
Wholesome is good too
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>>561288101
>>561287653
Here found it https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/559627808/#559640649
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>>561289149
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>>561289205
Westbros....what is this...
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>>561288564
Nope, most classicfags unironically said friends = bad. I know you want to pretend otherwise because it sounds really stupid, but it IS really stupid. Most arguments back then were about characters and character designs, not gameplay.

>>561288975
I don't know if some of my posts are coming off that way, I don't want to cause arguments. I just want it to be known that people DID say these things back then. Classicfags asked for Sonic 4 Episode 1, and a large portion of them praised it at the time. They did complain about the characters most and foremost. Most of them did NOT have a good understanding of the series. They DID harass fans of the modern games back then. These things should not be forgotten.
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Reminder that our drawfags trace their own shit slop now.
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>>561289149
>Fr*nch
GET THE FUCK OUT YOU BAGUETTE! GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!
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>>561289149
>toxic masculinity
maybe the comic is just shit
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>>561289205
Westards pretending as if this game soiled Sonic’s reputation even further during the 2010’s after generations saved what little goodwill was left.
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>>561289149
IDW fans do be having literally every quirk chungus opinion
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>>561289045

>>561289149
Yeah no, that's a dumb way to see it like that.
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>>561289149
Is this the same faggot that was crying about tits on female characters?
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>>561289350
>Most arguments back then were about characters and character designs, not gameplay.
Kids these days won't remember the "Sonic's shitty friends" discourse that permeated every single conversation about the franchise now that Shadow et al are back in the spotlight.
The entire marketing around Sonic 4 "only having Sonic" was entirely based around Classicfags asking specifically for that.
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>>561289267
Lol
Lmao even
>>561289149
Holy retard
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>>561289152
I wish this was inaccurate. Sonic X someone who challenges him would be better than someone who practically throws herself at him.
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IDW fans are starting to make Archie fans look good
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Oh no!
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>Moderntards still coping and pushing the narrative that Sonic 4 isn't a modernshit game
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>>561289301
>Two weeks ago
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
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ENOUGH OF THIS
CHAOS TESTICULAR TORSION
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>>561289625
Archiefags at least admit that a lot of that run was nonsensical Penders bullshit.
IDWfags will suck Ian/Evan off for all eternity without even a hint of critical thinking.
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>>561289625
To be fair, modern fans of anything are outright worse than the fans of the past. Because people now are worse overall due to the retarded shit they've been taught in academia.
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>>561289618
Sonic and sthg anti Sally who is scared of handholding
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>>561289625
You’re both Westards. So they’re only making your side like worse than it already is.
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None of this is about gameplay
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>>561289486
I didn't know Kit and Surge could be wholesome together
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>>561289704
too bad
nothing of value was lost really
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>>561289618
>Sonic X someone who challenges him
Why do we need this? Why does the relationship have to be rife with conflict? All that says is that they aren't compatible. Simple as.
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Aren't you guys tired of pushing narratives instead of analyzing things honestly
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>Westfags are now infighting again
I thought you said all of your media was better than japslop?
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>>561289718
AAAAAAAAA!
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>>561289350
https://forums.sonicretro.org/threads/wave-storm-blaze-wtf.6293/

Read the thread you disingenuous faggot. People hated them because modernshit made them intolerable
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Why are IDW fans obsessed with Sonic being vulnerable?
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>>561289829
Westfags throwing each under the bus as if that will help them look any better will never not be funny.
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None of this is about gameplay either
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Anyone here play Rumble? Need 3 players to earn some red rings doing the challenges.
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>>561289905
Because having your shit together is alien to them.
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>>561289895
>Sonic Retro
I'd have got more nuanced conversation from Sonic Cult
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>>561289618
>archiecunt doesn't play the games
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>>561289372
Our drawfags are so shit
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>>561288029
Better question, Do IDWfags still read it?
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Wow, comic fans really DON'T play the games
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>>561289829
JPchads never have "trash vs garbage" debates. You only see thing kind of thing with westshitters.
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This place is so fucking boring. If you're going to shitpost at least make it entertaining. Chesterposting was kino.
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>>561289762
this is the legacy that modernshit created
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>>561290067
I suspect not because I see zero conversation about the current story (whatever that would be).
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>>561290048
They’re never beating the allegations.
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>>561289798
There is no why to it. Sonic can also have a boring relationship that is just kind of there too. Which is what he has with Amy now. And when I say challenge, I mean the bare minimum of him actually having to do SOMETHING. He literally doesn't have to do a single damned thing with Amy. There is nothing wrong with the current dynamic. I just find it boring as all hell. Whether it progresses, or doesn't, it will look exactly the same.
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>>561289762
It's about characters like shitdow being insufferable yes.
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>>561289960
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Do you want me to post queen Sally and Shadow?
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>>561289895
I've read threads myself before. I haven't read that particular thread, but even just opening it, I can already see that YOU are being disingenuous.

Look at the fucking TITLE of the thread:
>Wave, Storm, Blaze, wtf?
Wave and Storm are from RACING GAMES. They didn't bring their own unique gameplay different from other characters. Blaze plays THE SAME as Sonic, if their problem was with the boost gameplay they would talk about that.

I read the OP of that thread just now. It talks about CHARACTERS, NOT GAMEPLAY.

I read the second post as well:
>...although Blaze IS an alright new character. Still, too much of a copy of Knuckles for my taste.
Blaze DOES NOT play like Knuckles. This is a CHARACTERS discussion, not a gameplay one.

And the third post:
>the new characters for Riders may turn out to add unncessarily into the overall flow of the game, instead playing a role that could have been easily carried out by the Chaotix or some other previously nonexistant alliance of existing characters.
This talks about the CHARACTER roles in the STORY, not gameplay.

Here is another image focused on CHARACTERS, not gameplay.
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>>561290341
Post goon
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>>561290048
I've seen this anon. It doesn't make the dynamic interesting. It makes it a meme.
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>>561290286
>modernshitters want pointless drama over stability
figures
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>>561290508
I want a story that isn't already over. Sonic already won over Amy. But yes, a story in which things happen is certainly better than a portrait.
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Did everyone just forget how hated Amy was in the 2000s
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>>561290597
Sonic Heroes was a disaster, yes.
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>>561290286
That's why Sonic Team needs to let them go on dates, go places together, and be intimate with each other. It will actually make the relationship interesting
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>>561290508
They unironically believe having shallow and contrived baseless drama for the sake of it makes something "mature" or "deep" this is a fucking series about a cartoon blue hedgehog. Grow the fuck up.
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And now listen to this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxxlCZs9oaM

Again, none of this is about gameplay. It's all about the CHARACTERS. Gameplay wasn't a factor in most conversations.

>>561290309
There are always people in this general insisting that back then the characters were only hated because they had worse gameplay than Sonic. I can see why they would think that, it sounds reasonable. The problem with that is that it's not what happened. Most of the criticism was, in fact, not reasonable. And that is exactly how we got Sonic 4 Episode 1. People ASKED for that game, and even PRAISED it back then.
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>>561290597
modernshit made the whole cast hated
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>>561289905
bros before hoes
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>>561290597
I never hated Amy. I just found her a boring but cute meme. Her only real saving grace is that she's cute. Beyond that she has no especially interesting moments I can recall.
>>561290671
I sincerely doubt it.
>>561290681
It doesn't have to be drama. It could be something as simple as uncertainty. But there is no uncertainty. There is no story. You are a nigger.
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I interrupt you regularly scheduled shitposting to tell you to imagine Tails planting himself inches deep inside Sally.
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Why is there almost no Tails x Krystal porn?
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>>561290562
A big part of the reason they didn't like these new character is because they felt Sonic games were getting increasingly more focused on stories they didn't care about in detriment to the universal appeal the old silent storytelling once had

Also games like Heroes have the characters talking constantly non stop which is annoying and ruined the perception of a lot of these characters
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>>561290696
Literally where is the lie? Sonic doesn't need some huge over arching story and Shitnic team proved that with all the melodramatic bullshit we had in the dark age.
>b-but they're not talking about gameplay with the shitty friends!
As if Shitdow, Blaze and Silver are well written characters with absolutely nothing going forward for them outside retarded autism bogging down the series?
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>>561290562
Sonic Team has good character designers!
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>>561290926
To be fair. Sonic isn't a well written character either.
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>>561290696
>There are always people in this general insisting that back then the characters were only hated because they had worse gameplay than Sonic
The irony is that, generally across all the games with multiple characters, Sonic is the least interesting to play as.

Everyone can run fast like Sonic, but they also all have their own individual abilities (fly, glide/climb, etc.) where as Sonic is just basic movement. If he's lucky, he might get a special shield or some upgrade like a bounce ring. But without those, he's actually bland compared to the rest.
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>>561290907
That’s good. A character spared from the degenerate leech diseases that Tailsfags are.
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Anons will do anything but admit that there are people out there that don't like a character because it's not a character they grew up with
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>>561289149
Why are IDWfags so insecure
What caused it
I'd genuinely prefer self deprecation to this shit
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>>561290696
Sonic 4: No Bullshit Edition
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>>561290912
Wrong reply oops
>>561290362
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>>561291060
Back when Amy had Sovl
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NIGGERNIC
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>>561291110
Why does Metal Sonic have a weird Muppets mouth
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>>561291172
Sovl is problematic chud.
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>>561290795
how's that ian's blaze biggest fan yet he made tangle because he thought there were no girlbosses in this franchise and he forgot she's not a hugger here
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>>561290696
>argument boils down to modernigger seething that people hates his edgy, convoluted and shitty stories written by fraudulent hacks and people hating pointless characters made to be shilled in a mainline game and then dumped to be utterly useless soon after
This is your mindset modernfags.
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>>561290926
I don't care about that. You can think Sonic games shouldn't have stories and you can hate Shadow. I only made these posts to correct this claim:
>Actual Classicfags wanted characters like Fang and Mighty back but with a similar gameplay to Sonic. That and a proper translation of the classics into 3D. These valid criticisms were then taken and twisted by critics as saying "Sonic friends = bad"
This is false. Most classicfags in the 2000s did in fact constantly insist that "friends = bad". It sounds stupid to us NOW, but back then they unironically said that. Sonic 4 Episode 1 IS the game they asked for. That is why SEGA released that game and advertised it the way they did.
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>>561291060
Sonic enjoys it now
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>>561290864
Nah
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>>561290864
TAILS! That's your aunt/sister!
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>>561291275
It's a minor shift for Sonic, and a big one for Amy. She isn't allowed to be a lunatic anymore, so Sonic technically has no reason to run.
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Sonic sez unemployment is cool
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>>561291269
Accidentally didn't quote the post >>561288564
Point is, classicfags back then unironically said "friends = bad", so I posted proof. Let's not pretend it didn't happen.
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>>561291394
I'm not a Classicfag but I don't think posting some random 5 follower twitter account amounts to much proof of anything.
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>>561291269
>Most classicfags
>Posts a screencap from a dead xitter account literal who with only 2 likes
>in fact constantly insist that "friends = bad".
Because modernshit characters ruined multiple playable characters for the longest time and became synonymous with that?
>Sonic 4 Episode 1 IS the game they asked for.
We didn't ask for a modernshit game disguised as a 3K sequel. See >>561288119
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>>561291221
I hate it...
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>>561291563
What is the point of your posts anon? Are you just here to annoy people? Because you're never going to get what you want.
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>>561290580
>Sonic already won over Amy.
The point is for her to win over him.
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>>561291362
Isn't it safer to practice with family and friends?
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Cattitude

https://x.com/SoulRecoil/status/2033973666573111573
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>>561291371
Sonic running away from Amy was lame and boring. I'm glad Sonic Team made him comfortable with physical intimacy from Amy. I still hate how Sonic Team allows Ian to remove Amy's energy and love for Sonic in the English versions of the games
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>>561291045
Yet most people still play as him.
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Stop giving the Classictard attention.
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>>561291057
modernfags will do anything but admit all the criticism was valid and sonic 4 was just another modernshit attempt at sweeping the problem under the rug while the game quality itself is still dogass
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>>561290912
>A big part of the reason they didn't like these new character is because they felt Sonic games were getting increasingly more focused on stories they didn't care about in detriment to the universal appeal the old silent storytelling once had
No, this was not a common talking point back then. Only Generations/Mania Adventures fans care about this. The original classicfags liked the old American cartoons.

>Also games like Heroes have the characters talking constantly non stop
Now this is actually true, a lot of people did complain about that. But that wasn't the main point of contention, as you can see by the fact that people complained about the characters even in games where that didn't happen or that had no voice acting at all.

>>561291520
Disingenuous, it's not just that one screenshot, I made SEVERAL posts showing how classicfags talked at the time:
>>561289762
>>561289960
>>561290362
>>561290696
Look at the pics. Open the links. Even the thread that was linked as a counterargument, it proves my point.
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>>561291664
Sonic doesn't have a single good reason to deny Amy beyond adhd or a desire for dicks. It's still a story that's halfway over. I can see why you might find it appealing though, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Just that I personally don't like it. Then again, I don't actually find romance simply falling into a character's lap especially interesting in general.
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>>561291804
Him running away isn't cool. Him embracing her advances and being nonchalant about it is cool.
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Reminder that Rumble is canonically just Eggman and Sonic playing with toys
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>>561291630
To dunk on modernshit and explain why classic is objectively better? What do you have against freedom of speech?
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>>561291981
>Doesn't even bother making a toy of Omega
Says a lot
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>>561291630
>What is the point of your posts anon?
>you're never going to get what you want.
You should ask the satamfags in the thread this.
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>>561291804
Everyone hates Ian in general. Amy clearly likes Sonic and her dialogue should reflect that. But Ian is a butthurt dicksucking faggot, so he can't help but write characters based on his own dumbass ideas.
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>>561291938
>Sonic doesn't have a single good reason to deny Amy beyond adhd or a desire for dicks
His love for freedom, and misunderstanding what Amy actually wants.
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>>561291738
Hot. Need her to step on me.
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Why we're still here
What we're trying to accomplish
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Thoughts on this ship?
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>>561291057
This is literally it. Some people want to defend this idea that classicfags in the 2000s were concerned about the classic gameplay primarily when what most of them actually cared about was characters and character designs. This can also be seen in how people who grew up with Sonic 1 kept calling Tails a shitty friends, while those who grew up with Sonic 2 didn't.

>>561291861
Okay, I'm done now. I proved my point.
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>>561291981
SOVL
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>>561291976
It made sense at a point. But I agree, he should be nonchalant about it at this point. He's a grown ass hedgehog ffs. Whether he's frozen in time age wise or not, he has been on way too many adventures. A simple hug from a girl shouldn't be intimidating.
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Classicfag mindset:
>1998
Sonic Adventure is coming out in the US next year! I'll finally be able to play it
>1999
Uh... Why do all the characters have poorly thought out gameplay gimmicks? Big fucking sucks his gameplay is fishing, who asked for that? And why does this game has so many cutscenes? It fucks up the game's pacing and structure
>2000
I hope they fix their mistakes for SA2!
>2001
Ok so they made the story an even bigger thing to the game's detriment AGAIN. Why should I care about Shadow's backstory is his story is getting in the way of the videogame? Also why is the military here, wtf is going on, this is getting off the rails.
>2003
Well they're ditching the Adventure formula thank god. MAYBE Heroes will be our first proper 3D game
>2004
Jesus the characters just don't shut up! All they do is talk talk talk. I mean they reduced the story, sure, but the characters are even more annoying! They ruined characters like Amy and Charmy
>2005
Ok so they're adding ANOTHER hedgehog. Great. All we needed was more DBZ knockoffs. What the hell is up with those realistic humans also?
>2006
This is it. We've officially reached rock bottom. Silver might be the worst thing ever. He's annoying, he's a knockoff and worst of all his gameplay is abysmal. Sonic's personality was reduced to a castrated dog and his friends are shoved to the sidelines
>2007
For the love of god don't fuck this up Sonic Team, only Sonic is playable. No more gameplay to fuck up. If you're adding a new character just fucking try to make them tolerable and non intrusive
>2008
Chip is incredibly annoying. I can't stand his unfunny antics. They did it again folks

All these are valid
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>>561291872
Modern fans are aware of the criticism. The problem is the conflating of two groups where one group wants quality and the other wants destruction while pretending to want quality
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This is...
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>>561292102
It'd be a lot easier to understand what Amy actually wants if modernshit didn't give her rancid sluggish gameplay then bench her for 13 years
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>>561292167
Ship for massive losers
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>>561292184
I'll stop as well.
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>>561292259
>Sonic Adventure is coming out in the US next year! I'll finally be able to play it
Already wrong on the first line. Classicfags were hating on the game the moment they saw the green eyes.
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>>561292259
Moderntards cannot refute this.
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>t.
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>>561292287
>UK 1994
...interesting.
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>>561292306
i love this picture
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>>561292339
MAKE IT YOURSELF!
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>>561292529
uuu
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>>561292260
If modernfans were aware of criticism they would have let go of the 2010’s e-celeb boogeyman rhetoric and dump the "muh passion and ambition" bullshit to defend dark age garbage.
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>>561292473
Based fleetway being faithful to the series as usual.
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Whisper went from Balto the Wolfhound to Meega Stitch
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>I'm Sonic! Sonic the Hedgehog!
HE'S BACK
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>>561292167
They cute. I imagine they have many nights where they cuddle and snuggle together.
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>Sonic Twit & YouTube changed PFP and banner
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>>561292695
CINEMA
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>>561291110
Solid cast. No more Islanders after this.
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>>561292695
I can't wait to go back to the 90's so darkagevirgins can have another melty.
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>>561292529
oh my god they gave her a pug nose like tails
i was wrong, putting the idw characters in the games is a fantastic idea. let modernshit fuck them up like it did for the original cast.
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SEGA and Sonic Team really did just abandon their poor social media team to try and hype of the 35th anniversary all by themselves. At least they're earning their paychecks I guess.
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>>561292235
>It made sense at a point
It never did. Sonic was designed to be a teenager. And teenagers want to fuck.
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>>561292259
Big is the only bad gameplay style in SA1.
The cutscenes can be skipped in every game except the Dreamcast release of SA1. They don't get in the way of the gameplay. Complaining about the character focus is not a valid complaint in a series that was always focused on characters, they just wanted the focus to be on the characters (and voice actors) they were nostalgic for. Silver's gameplay is far from the worst gameplay in the game or even the series overall. Chip is only annoying when you're outside of the target audience.
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>>561292815
The 2000s and the 90s are both Sonic when it was GOOD.
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>>561292867
Amy was a little overbearing, but perhaps you're right. If a cute girl threw herself at me, well clearly one didn't or I wouldn't be here.
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>Teenagers want to fuck
Anon, pedophilia is not normal or okay.
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>>561292069
SoJ oversees and approves everything he writes
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You yelled at me for an entire thread for saying the edgy "mature" side of the Yuji Naka path image isn't automatically cool
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>>561292903
This, there is no reason to fight over this.
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>>561292831
The title reveal for Move 4 came out. There's your 35th Anniversary.
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> They celebrated the 2010s for a whole month without ever mentioning Sticks
This fucking sucks
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>>561293087
Damn they did Sonic Rush dirty
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>>561293087
Core 5
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>>561292695
Cool post
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>>561292991
Japan has completely lost its spine and is currently on its knees bowing to anything American piggus Jew leaders tell them to do.
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>>561292867
Sonic is a goddamn cartoon character
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>>561293154
Sticks is super dead.
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>>561293087
>chaos confirmed Sonic 5 villain
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>>561292886
>Big is the only bad gameplay style in SA1
That is your personal opinion and therefore irrelevant. I'm talking about the perception people had at the time
>The cutscenes can be skipped in every game
The problem is the quantity of cutscenes and the focus they had in relation to the gameplay. The Classic stories complemented the gameplay meanwhile the Modern stories dictated the structure of the games, often screwing up the pacing and structure of these games
>Silver's gameplay is far from the worst gameplay in the game or even the series overall.
Again your opinion
>Chip is only annoying when you're outside of the target audience.
Ok that's not relevant
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>>561292339
>>561292582
Put them in Crossworlds
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>>561292981
Don't be retarded anon.
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>Sonic Team spending a million dollars to collab with Care Bears
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>>561293030
I fucking hate 06 and will side with steven universe slop if it means Sonic will never go down that path again
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>>561292903
don't bullshit me. everything after the 2000s was an apology for the 2000s
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>>561293087
PEEEEEAK
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>>561293087
>Critically panned slop
LOL
LMAO even
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>>561293397
Nice try
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>>561293425
>everything after the 2000s was an apology for the 2000s

translation: an apology for Sonic being Sonic. And that's why everything after the 2000s was -not- "Sonic when it was GOOD".
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>>561293376
Would be devilishly based
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>>561293376
Sorry, but I only hang around cool IPs. I heard Bubsy is looking for some collabs down the street though.
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>>561293439
Bottom row, sure. But top? Fuck outta here.
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>>561293397
This but unironically. People defending 06 have lost their minds. The only truly good part about the game is the soundtrack. The game isn't "earnest" either. Everyone says that the game was sincere and earnest but it was literally trying to abandon everything that was identifiable about Sonic to look like another dime a dozen 2000s action adventure game with overdressed royals and melodrama about fighting gods.
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>>561293493
This comic finds new ways to annoy me every three months
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>>561293493
I adore her design
It's fresh, the collar's slick, her hairstyle is so jpnese
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>Darkagevirgins thinks their era was the best of sonic when the 2020's saved the brand with movie kino.
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New Yuji Uekawa art is the only way this franchise can heal
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>>561292980
>If a cute girl threw herself at me, well clearly one didn't or I wouldn't be here.
I had that happen to me alot and I'm here.
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>>561293589
Shame, I would play good money for a Sonic game featuring Dante the Devilhog from the Devil may cry series
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>>561293493
I'm genuinely at the point where I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed that AI has been writing this comic for the most part since Evan took control. It would explain why the comic keeps forgetting what it's characters' powers are.
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>>561293740
Then there was never any hope.
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>>561293693
b-but westshit is good for sonic.....
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>>561293684
So it's an Adventure game.
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>>561293712
If Fowler never worked on the Shadow game, the movies would have never been made.
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>>561293737
I've been saying time and time again that the only way the games can be good again is if they utilize the story-driven and serious tone of SA1 and SA2
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>Take a six hour nap
>Wake up and check the general
>He's STILL samefagging in hopes of causing some war
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>>561293087
So is this actually going to amount to any video game news or is it just a temporary Twitter gimmick? I’d take ports.
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>>561293748
You're going to get a collab with Chester Cheetah and Thomas the Tank Engine and you'll be grateful you fucking goyim.
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>>561293791
Evan didn't forget. Belle asks Sage to just phase since she's a hologram and Sage says that she can't because she's hard light
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>>561293908
Sorry bud, best I can do is Ian Flynn's brand of melodrama and out of context references
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IDWbros and all those adjacent to them hiss like showing a vampire a cross when they see something Sonic-related that has actual SOUL.
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>>561293986
>I’d take ports.
You can play every game there on PC and better than its original versions.
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>>561292886
>Big is the only bad gameplay style in SA1.
SA1 fucked over Amy's playable debut so bad, SA2 completely abandoned it and SEGA had to reboot her classic variant just to give the character any dignity
>The cutscenes can be skipped in every game except the Dreamcast release of SA1. They don't get in the way of the gameplay.
The Dreamcast release of SA1 is the version that would make the biggest impact, dumbass
>Complaining about the character focus is not a valid complaint in a series that was always focused on characters,
It becomes a valid complaint if they're given dogshit gameplay, writing and voice acting
>Silver's gameplay is far from the worst gameplay in the game or even the series overall.

Silver is a combination of all the worst trends in modernshit
>horrible boss fight in sonic's story
>imposes himself on sonic's story
>horrible boss fight in shadow's story
>the story gives him chaos control for no apparent reason other than "shadow can do it"
>one of the worst characters in the entire game to play as
>blaze is the only decent playing character on silver's own team, and she gets sacrificed so he can have his own "maria"

>Chip is only annoying when you're outside of the target audience.
Any kid who's old enough to finish Unleashed is old enough to think Chip is annoying
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>>561294028
We've already been through this. There is no rational explanation why she literally can't just teleport out of his grip.
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>>561293986
>I’d take ports.
They should just keep porting Sonic Adventure DX and see how far the bug rabbit hole goes
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>>561294147
She got nerfed for the sole sake of making Belle look better. Simple as.
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>>561292167
It's the most "Oh, okay?" ship ever. I don't think I've ever seen anyone be actually mad at it because it's so out of left field. It's like being mad at someone for saying Zghtlds, you'd just go "What?" Purple and yellow are good color contrasts though + they had kids so it's better than a good deal of the ships in this franchise.
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Cumming all over your favorite character
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>>561294147
If Sage could teleport she would just leave the cave instead of getting frightened about being stuck in jt
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>>561293913
I admit it... I'm a samefag faggot who does nothing but falseflags for (You)s...
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>>561293913
Same thing happened to me a few hours ago. You really have to wonder what the fuck these people do all day other than shitpost on a dead Sonic general.
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>>561294050
Sounds like that's just westfags reacting to jp-kino.
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>>561293154
Poor Sticks. This Sonic Rewind thing is pretty weak, it's just a bunch of Twitter posts and YouTube banners, feels kinda pointless

>>561293359
It is very much relevant. We are adults too, we are outside of the main target audience. The series is for kids and it should appeal to kids first. That's what it was doing in the 2000s and they couldn't accept it. It's what it's doing now and some people in this general can't accept this. A lot of these complaints boil down to "I'm not a kid anymore, so I don't get to enjoy this", which is not a problem with the games themselves. Again, you can see the same thing happening right now with Superstars, the Sonic LEGO crossovers (yes kids like those), Prime, or the movies

>Modern stories dictated the structure of the games
The only game where this is true is SA2 (and even then, about half of the stages across both stories were clearly added after the writing was done, it's surprising that they managed to contextualize the stages decently). In every other game there is a lot more disconnect between stages and story

>That is your personal opinion and therefore irrelevant.
Ok that's fair, but surely you can see Big is fundamentally different from all the other characters

>>561294116
I don't care about responding to this post, I don't think it adds anything valuable to the conversation. I'll just say the Dreamcast was a failed console and the DX version of the game was always more popular until around 2015 when fans started getting autistic over the graphics and some glitches
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>>561294278
Leave him alone.
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>>561293087
>>561292735
Are we gonna get something or is it all gonna be just
>remember THIS?!?!
>no we aren't gonna remaster or port any of the games but remember THEM?!?
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>>561294017
I thought the Japs stole Sega from the Jews decades ago?
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>>561293913
HesseCHAD mindbroke you.
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Sticks would have been canon by now if Ian didn't try to give her a backstory
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>this is the shit moderntards celebrate
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>>561292167
I have a better version.
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>>561294507
Don't even remind me
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>>561294037
Ian Flynn was the worst thing to happen to this franchise. Because of him, the IDW comics are the way they are, the fandom is infested with woke activists, the games neutered Amy, and are filled with vexing and unnecessary references
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>>561294539
B-BUT MUH PASSION AND AMBITION
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>>561294539
>Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis
>33
Uhhhhhhhhh Classicbros?????
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>>561294315
In every single depiction outside of IDW, Sage can teleport easily by will and phase through objects. This is what we call in the writing business as "extremely hamfisted and forced circumstance brought on by sheer OOC contrivance" which happens quite often in this book.
Shadow getting infected by the metal virus.
Blaze not showing up during MV until the end just because.
Silver telekinetically holding a chair instead of Duo even though he can literally just do that.
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>>561293176
Sonic Rush was always a side game, regardless how much Blazefags acted like it was important in the series.
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>>561294319
We know, shitdowbro.
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>>561294507
Sticks is so dead that even Maria is more alive. Sega doesn't give a shit about that bitch
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>>561294613
>Botched port
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>>561294638
Why would a classicfag be a shitdowfag? That doesn't make any sense.
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>>561293870
if modernshit didn't make the series go off the deep end, the sonic movies would've been fully animated and not chipmunk garbage
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>>561294618
They have the characters bend to the plot, not have the characters actually WORK in it.
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This thread needs more cute boys
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>>561294373
Sonic is for kids I agree however the argument a lot of Classic fans use is that the Genesis titles were more approachable to a wide audience irrespective of age. Meanwhile the modern games want you to be invested in these characters and stories and that's off putting to many adults. So when they complained about things changing and becoming more childish they were parting from the principle that gameplay was often tossed aside in favor of stories that also stripped away many core elements of the series in favor of trend chasing
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Why are they still popular?
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>>561294760
Wdym? Only a modernfag would act mentally ill.
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>>561294901
Tamers
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Nigger, do you not fucking realize that there's only a handful of posters on here at this hour and that we can all clearly tell you are samefagging yourself for a fake flamewar? Oh my fucking god I wish jannies on this board would do their fucking job.
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>>561294906
The classicfag is conflating ideas that don't exist in anyone else's minds. People only see classic and modern as sidescroller and not. Extra character in a sidescroller are a positive, not a negative. The rest of this is him seriously having a conversation with himself about an argument no one is making.
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>>561294959
Who are you talking about
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>>561294959
uh oh....modernfag having a melty over people preferring classic over modern!
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>>561294959
What's crazy is that I think this guys shitposting makes up for over 200 posts in this one thread alone. What kind of mental dysfunction is this? Autism doesn't explain talking to yourself for days.
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>>561294760
>rushing to defend JOBBERdow
Pottery
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>>561294836
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This is it. This is Sonic.
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>>561294653
I'd rather Sticks be vaulted than reduced to Knuckles' emerald sitter like Ian so eagerly wanted her to be.
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>>561295130
>What kind of mental dysfunction is this?
No mainline titles in the last 2 years.
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I'm the only real person here because I said so. Now post Surge
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>>561294618
>Blaze not showing up during MV until the end just because.
>Silver telekinetically holding a chair instead of Duo even though he can literally just do that.
Both of these are not any different from how they are handled in the games. Blaze didn't show up for a lot of things, notably Forces. Silver does not use his powers optimally, as there is always "why didn't he just do X" for every story
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>Replying to himself for days on end
>Flamewarring himself on post cooldown
LCkun wannabe. Set up a proper bot.
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>>561295013
I think you just outed yourself not even reading what classicfags are even saying in the thread or even comprehending it at all through your thick skull, but I wouldn't expect anything different from a mentally deranged shitdowfag.
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>>561295286
Stop calling me out!!1!
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>>561295286
>LCkun wannabe
Newfag detected
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>>561295138
I literally called him Shitdow. Anon. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>561295286
I think you might need to get thrown in a mental asylum because I don't see any posts resembling LC-kun's.
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Considering the themes and setting of underground, They should have been a punk band rather than just playing generic shitty rock songs.
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>>561295450
You don't know how to bait him apparently.
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>>561295338
There are no classicfags. There is A classicfag. Singular. You.
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>>561295465
>backpedaling
>getting defensive
I didn't have to bait for this is the craziest part
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CHADow lives rent free in your mind.
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Mental illness general
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>>561295594
Keep coping. Nobody likes modernshit.
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>>561295338
Moderntards are illiterate, please understand.
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>>561294859
This thing about it being childish is one post, that an anon keeps posting a screenshot of. And it was about Cream and the Chao being cutesy, which is just ridiculous. They barely acknowledged it as for children at the time, they just realized it wasn't for them anymore and got angry. And fans of those games, usually children, suffered a a result, because that behavior doesn't create a good environment

>Meanwhile the modern games want you to be invested in these characters and stories and that's off putting to many adults.
There is nothing wrong with this. Normal adults usually don't get into children's media, and yes that does include the classic games. People usually get into them as children and stay interested as adults. There are some people who get interested in children's media as adults, and I would say that's the sort of person who posts in this general, but we're not the norm. Most adults won't be particularly interested in 3&K, SA2, or Generations, and that's okay. Children's opinions are also not less valuable than anyone else's
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>>561295726
Pot meet kettle
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>>561295594
>there's only one
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There's no samefagging. I saw a guy posting cherry picked images to prove his bad faith point that Classicfags are all crybabies who don't know what they're talking about and stepped in. That's it
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You people think 06 is good? The only thing good about it is the music
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Between this guy and the blazefag who self-bumps his own threads that no one is in, I really do wonder how many people in here are genuinely sane and not some kind of sub 90 IQ genetic inbred monstrosity.
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>>561295825
>Exactly a minute apart. Classicfag, really?
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>>561295726
ironic
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>>561295861
kit is the cutest boy...
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>>561295875
Most of the sane posters in /sthg/ left when Forces released because no truly sane person would have continued to be a fan of this franchise in any serious capacity.
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>>561295875
Can't I be both sane and retarded
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>>561295935
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>>561295875
I know right?. I don't understand how one modernfags could act this insane and assblasted. Does modernshit games really fuck up the mind that badly?
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Post cute boys
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Chubump
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>>561296107
I feel bad for you anon. If you had a girlfriend you wouldn't be like this.
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>>561295913
>ignores the post directly below one of them that instantly destroys your modernschizo narrative.
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Dogfucker hours
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>>561296020
Would Smurfette and Tangle, I guess.
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This nigger has been on here for over 5 fucking years doing the exact same monkey dance and routine. And you think anyone is going to take you seriously?
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>>561296237
No need to project your relationship issues moderntard. We know you're chick repellent.
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>>561295758
I'm not referring to a specific post but to an overall conception at the time that Sonic simply got lamer and tryhard in the 2000s, which many attributed to the series getting more kiddy

I'm also not trying to disqualify children's opinions. I'm saying that the Classic could be enjoyed by anyone while Modern has a smaller pool. Really I'm not actually talking about the value of children's opinions at all so I don't know why you brought it up.

And adults might not "get into" children's media but they can engage with it earnestly and have a good time. Plenty of classic cartoons worked like that, and Classic Sonic was no different. A neutral adult will find Sonic 2 more approachable than SA2 because even if they don't care about Tails' arc in that game they can still enjoy the videogame and the simple vibe
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I like hessefag, he filters newfags out
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>>561296107
It's hilarious how modernfags are having a total meltdown right now. I have yet to hear a single valid argument for why any of their dark age shit are actually good games.
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>>561295846
>Classicfags are all crybabies who don't know what they're talking about
>all
I didn't say that. I said that a majority of the conversations were about characters and character design, not gameplay. There were a variety of opinions and some did talk about gameplay. Most were concerned with characters.

My images (and forum posts, and YouTube videos, and reviews, and comments) are not cherry picked. They are examples of ACTUAL CONVERSATIONS FROM THE TIME. Someone tried to link a thread from the time to prove me wrong, and instead it just proved me right, once again. See: >>561290362 I did NOT even pick that thread myself. Someone gave it to me. "Friends = bad" is unironically 100% what people at the time were saying. You want to deny this because in retrospect it sounds stupid and makes them look bad, but there is no way around it, it IS what they were saying. And again, I didn't say ALL were like this. Some people did care about gameplay (and not all classicfags hated the Adventure games, or the characters for that matter), and that's how we got the Retro Engine. But now people who weren't around to see how classicfags used to behave insist that all classicfags in the 2000s and 2010s were expert game designers who only cared about pure gameplay and had no nostalgic bias whatsoever. Which is false, wrong, and ridiculous. I have posted plenty of proof and I can post more. There is no cherrypicking.
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It really is just one fucking guy who has been doing this for years.
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>>561296331
>destroying modernfags and making them seethe since the 2020’s
Legendary.
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We have content drought because our drawfags are dogshit
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>>561296580
he's not wrong though
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Oh, that must have really stung a nerve when it failed.
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IDW fans have every Steven universe opinion for some reason
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>>561296579
>>561296580
Sir, this is a wendys drive-thru. You need to calm down and stop sounding like a raving lunatic about classic sonic.
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>>561296663
And minafag started tracing their own shit art. It's over.
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>>561296420
He is genuinely the most honest and amusing shitposter.
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>>561296579
And then I explained why they disliked those characters. You made a surface level analysis based on memes and critic reviews (btw Sonic 4's score is 74 which is just ok) and then I explained the proper context behind those
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Enough archive diving. I think that's enough for now to showcase this guy is legitimately mentally ill and should be ignored.
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>>561296756
>moderntard headcanon
It must of stung when Floptiers revolved around running around a shitty unreal engine 5 map ripping off Zelda and doing fetch quests.
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Milking blobians
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>>561296331
shitting on modernfags is more fun than going back to the assetflip islands
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>>561296580
>Erafags are mentally ill
Surprising no one.
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>>561296890
not even a classicfag but I think how you're reacting only shows why hessefag is still around and how he's actively banking on your rage in the thread.
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>>561296863
Has he ever broken character?
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>He's actually mad about Superstars
Oh, you poor idiot. You should have just ignored my banter.
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>>561296887
Memes, videos, posts, comments, forum threads. Everything was like that.

>And then I explained why they disliked those characters.
No, they explained that in their own words back then. You tried to twist it to make it seem more reasonable. What they said is as clear as it gets.

>btw Sonic 4's score is 74 which is just ok
That's an aggregation score. Many of those reviews gave it 8s and 9s. And scores are meaningless, what matters is the content of those reviews. Please read them. Read the threads, too.
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>>561296890
Nah, I think it only shows how based he is. He actually talks about the games too and not drama unlike you.
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>>561297028
Anon, I don't think it's a character.
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>>561297028
I remember one of them jobbed to a kidney stone and talked about it. It was pretty funny. Another talked about how he lays on the bathroom floor crying while his roommates aren't home.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHo2mEg10zo
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>>561297057
It's rare seeing a Sa1k_a drawing without shadow having a purple muzzle
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>shitdow spam
>hesseposting
Worth hours
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>>561296708
>the little oc that introduced boost to remove adventure games forever
I really wish all Blazefags delete themselves like the ones before them
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>no new info on the next game
>Chaotix audiodrama came and went with no impact
>movie just started filming
>Rumble adding Care Bears and Smurfs
>Crossworlds dead in the water with only more nickelodeon shit to look forward to
>probably no neat April Fool's game either
>all we get is the Twitter account changing their pfp and background and telling fans to remember the time when most weren't even alive/Sonic fans to begin with
What a fucking snorefest of an anniversary
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>>561296346
I brought up the value of children's opinions because you seem to hold the opinions of the old classic fans in higher regard than anyone else and using that as your basis for the argument that adults who enjoy children's media are more likely to get into. Which I don't think has much to stand on. Maybe that's your personal preference and that's okay, but people have different preferences and will be drawn to different games. I don't think you have enough evidence to generalize it the way you're trying to, it seems to be based more on your biases and preferences. I have seen adults get into both the 90s and 2000s games in recent years, so I don't think your generalization is universal like you want it to be
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Wait a second, Moderniggers actually think it's just one guy? We've been doing this for years because we're true fans unlike Moderntards. Mania is still better than every Modernshit game btw.
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>>561297092
I'm not twisting anything. Everything I said here >>561292259 is applicable to how their mindset developed throughout the decade

Sonic 4 was seen as modest critically. It was never praised universally and in fact it's release caused strong opinions among Classicfags of the time due to it's crap physics
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>>561296756
if super sonic's eyes were blue and you had to install mods to fix sonic's physics, modernshitters would've called it peak
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Whatever you say about IDW fans and vulnerability, Archie fans are still worse
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>>561296890
>mentally ill and should be ignored.
But enough about modernfags and their routined shipping autism, west vs jp wars, xitter tranny drama, creampedos, ect done to ad-nausem everyday. BUT nononono! explaining why modernshit games are worse than classic is...le bad! Do moderntards have their priorities backwards? this is hilarious.
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>>561297336
Hey hessefags, are you the same anon who used to post calls for the execution of moderntards?
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>>561297291
>Never played Rush or Rush Adventure
I just like the Cat lol. DS's are for troons
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>>561297258
>Worth hours
Very worth
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Just saying if you're a sonic fan that enjoys Modernshit yet shits on modern pokemon then you're a walking contradiction. Imagine believing anything outside the classic sonic era is good. Both Sonic and Pokemon peaked with great games during their classic days and fell off hard into an endless abyss of autism and garbage filled with subhuman troglodyte furries that will buy up any low effort slop they shit out. It's a sad sight really.
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>>561297389
You’re both raving westfags at the end of the day. So I don’t know why you’re trying to look better than the other. You both shill shitty ooc fanfics for furries.
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>>561297389
Nope.
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Insane asylum general
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>>561297307
I'm not generalizing I'm literally saying the truth. The Classic stories are basic and therefore easier to appreciate. The Modern stories expect you to care about these anthropomorphic animals and their anime drama and this creates a cringe factor in most adults

I'm not saying that the old fan's opinions are superior if anything you're the one putting a bizarre level of emphasis on children's opinions for no reason when that's not relevant to the conversation
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If our retard autists drawfags made content for us, we'd have a nice general overall.
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The Sonic Fandom was better when it wasn't infested with political activism (Read: Troons, coloreds etc)
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>>561297586
They're retarded and critically inept. Only subhumans as moronic as modernshitters would continue suckle off the udder of the disease ridden modernshit cow after Shadow the hedgehog and Sonic 06 blew up the whole franchise like a grenade made out of pure shit. Modernshitters are like an experiment gone horribly wrong as it's all a mix of delusions, bad taste, nostalgia poisoning.
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>>561297351
Everything you said is a post written in 2026. Everything I showed is people talking earnestly back then. You can't rewrite history.

>Sonic 4 was seen as modest critically. It was never praised universally
The reviews did 100% praise it. They also mocked people who disliked the game. Please read them instead of looking at the scores.

>it's release caused strong opinions among Classicfags of the time due to it's crap physics
This happened among the more dedicated classicfags who actually cared about gameplay. It wasn't universal.
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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Classictards are the worst posters.
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>>561297336
They can't fathom more the one people hating modernshit even though literally everybody outside their shitty hugbox hates it.
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Our retard stupid drawfags just come here once a week and only care about putting the booru on the OP. And nothing else.
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>>561297814
>The reviews did 100% praise it. They also mocked people who disliked the game. Please read them instead of looking at the scores.
Ah yes I'll totally read the reviews you cherry picked for your bad faith argument. Newsflash: some bad reviews exist. Shocker!

>This happened among the more dedicated classicfags who actually cared about gameplay. It wasn't universal.
Nothing is universal, yes there were those that liked Sonic 4 because everything ever is liked by at least one person but the overall reception to Sonic 4 was mixed at best
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>>561297919
But enough about Moderntards
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>>561298013
I don't blame them
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Draw Sonurge and Shadally
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>>561297798
I fully agree Classicbro but don't you sometimes feel bad for those things? The Moderntards I mean. Sometimes I feel this strange sense of pity for the moronic creatures, they must spend every day in pain from the sheer weight of their cognitive dissonance. Personally I think they should be put out of their misery, the sooner the better.
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Being a modernfag and liking good games is an oxymoron.
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>>561298056
>N-NO U
This is the mindset of Classictards.
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And if anyone objects to this marriage, please speak now
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>>561297659
Most adults don't care about colorful cartoon animal video games in the first place. The sort of adult who gets into children's video games that he never played before is also the sort of adult who might like funny animals anime drama. Or maybe they're just fans of platformers and that's okay too. The cutscenes are easy to skip or ignore, anyway

>when that's not relevant to the conversation
Right, only the opinions of 90s kids are relevant. No, see, kids from later eras have grown up too and have their own tastes and preferences. The opinions of those earlier kids are not the universal opinions of all adults. Most adults in this general grew up in the 2000s and actively ask to have serious anime stories back the same exact way 90s kids used to complain about the modern stories being more complex. No adult who wasn't into the series as a kid cares about these specific details, they didn't grow up with it so they don't have these historical perspectives
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Classic proved itself invalid, you're dead classicscrubs
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this is boring. I'm going to go play sonic mania
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Minafag is tracing his own art because he's esentially brainrot from drawing the same garbage every day.
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>>561298349
Argument not found.
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Classic remains undefeated quality-wise.
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>>561298392
you are really mad today
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Remove the booru from the OP
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>>561298349
>modernshitters must pull validation from cesspools on the internet because anyone who breathes fresh air with destroy their inflated egos instantly
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>>561298270
*clears throat*
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>>561298308
I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse or not. I'm tired of arguing. I believe you haven't disproven anything I've said
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Why is sonurge so unpopular?
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>>561298541
Hi bobo, fucking loser who imagines himself being married to a stupid ugly cartoon. Lmao
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>>561298185
Being a modernigger must be a fate worse than death. Your delusional mind has been hardwired to worship such dogshit video games and characters and then automatically sperg out in autistic rage when people criticize them. You're a barely sentient sub-human with zero standards and I couldn't imagine living like that.
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>>561298349
>modernshitter tried to gloat over the new banner but was too retarded to even MAKE SURE THE IMAGE WAS RIGHT
KEK
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Sonic Mania's gameplay is objectively superior to Modern gameplay though.
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>>561298596
As far as I understand, your main argument is this:
>Emphasis on stories creates a cringe factor in most adults, so the modern games are inherently worse
Most adults have a "cringe factor" for colorful cartoon animals to begin with. I don't even know why you're using most adults as the metric to begin with
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>>561298741
OHNONONONO You can't make this up!
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>>561298559
No.
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>>561298921
Why not, it's only being used by an autistic retard with pegging fetish who draws the same shit every week and invites their twitter friends to this place.
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>>561298681
i assume bobo is the minafag? it just really easy to tell who you are since you are the only one that gets this pissy about the drawfags, especially now since you are spamming posts about it. you are always mad but what particulary made you more mad today, anon? what's wrong?
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>>561298039
Why do you keep claiming that I cherrypicked them? Again, even the thread that I was given as a counterargument proves my point.
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>>561296331
>>561296580
I'd rather have hessefag doing this than whispercel spamming "UUUUUU" "UUUU" and crying about misandry while avatarfagging for 6 years straight. Modernfags are worse in all aspects.
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What is it called when you give rational reasons to cruel actions done to you by others to make those people seem more human than they really are?
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>>561299110
>glug glug I love drawfag cum!
Bobo...
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>>561299080
It's 17,711 images of our collective history. Some really good lewds 'n stuff in there too.
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>>561299279
Minus the thousands that have been deleted arbitrarily and will never be recovered. Gotcha. Remove the booru permanently.
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>>561299203
All terrible Shitposters in /sthg/ are all modernfags, you CANNOT refute this. But we're the bad guys for actually talking about the state of the franchise and the games? Classicposters are unironically the most on-topic posters here.
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>>561299423
It's a shame about those, but better to have some history saved than none at all, no?
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>>561299203
Least mentally IDWtranny btw.
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If Shadow is Sonic’s equal then how come he doesn’t save the world as often huh?
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>>561299279
Has the booru been backed up yet?
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It seems that no matter how much evidence I provide, it will be disregarded as "cherrypicked". You can go read the forum threads, comment sections, etc. yourself.
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>>561299668
*mentally ill
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>>561299508
People who actually like and talk about the games are punished and antagonized while shitposters and others are get away scott free.
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>>561299696
Probly not, our drawfags don't care and cant do much anyway because they're bankrupt. The booru project will dissapear sometime soon and everything will be lost.
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>>561299696
No idea. Probably not.
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>>561299674
Same reason Silver is considered more heroic than Sonic: pretty words meant to paint a picture but never matched by actions in the games
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>>561299991
Fuck off already
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>>561299831
People that antagonize classichads ARE shitposters, which are also moderntards. Heck moderniggers AND modernshit are entirely the reason why this fanbase sucks shit in both reputation, autism and tribalism. Erase modernshit from history and all of our problems magically disappear.
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>search up the Hessefag's MD5s on arch
>he's posting from two different devices, one has 4chan image names and the other is properly named
Okay samefagging is one thing but why the fuck would you samefag while also posting from at least two different devices? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>561299991
Maria is kind of the Gwen Stacy of the Sonic series, In that she's the perfect girl who was descended for death.
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>>561300095
No, you're in hell with me forever
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>>561298039
Another thing, the reason SEGA responded with pic related is because the majority of fans and casuals at the time were indeed asking for THIS specifically. This is what they asked for. Gameplay was not a priority in those discussions until the 2010s. If you think they were stupid for that, that's on you. I'm only showing the facts.
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>>561300134
>modernfag now resorting to conspiracy theories
LOL this keeps getting better.
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I don't know what's funnier. Duofag trying to make everything about himself for hours and failing or anons taking hessefag seriously.
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>>561300134
Fuck off dramatard
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>>561299696
>>561299919
I have the booru fully backed up on my computer. Images + respective tags.
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>1 minute apart
>again
You make it obvious too.
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>>561300134
>Giving him attention
Don't you have /co/ threads to shit up anyways?
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>>561300412
You're bankrupt though, that's it, the booru is dead.
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>>561300412
Based if true.
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>>561300553
She only saved the shitdow ones.
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You're making it too obvious for who you are there fag, i recommend toning it down before you stop being annonymous
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>>561300689
And who exactly are you referring to, Mr.Knowitall. I'm the local detective around here.
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>she thinks people care about her
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Sorry ladies he's with me
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>>561300689
The seething schizo rage from this post is insane. I applaud classicfags for mindbreaking you.
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>>561300553
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Duofag understands that Sonic would plow Surge
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>>561300870
Such a cute smile, I hate him so much
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>>561300982
He should write IDW
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Kiss all of (You)
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>>561300412
Must take up a lot of space, no?
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Boys?
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>>561296346
>SA2's gameplay is somehow impossible for anyone to enjoy because the game has a story that you can ignore
SA2's speed stages have the best gameplay in the series.
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Oh you think I'm Krack. That's hilarious actually. Have you been trying to bait me this whole time because you thought I was her?
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>>561301236
Boys
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>>561301169
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>>561301224
Eh, not bad. Around 10GB.
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>>561301169
why was the spongebob crossover causing melties again?
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>>561301326
:D

Cool water cannon concept
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>>561301236
Boys <3
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Hey genius, if you care about content by /sthg/ so much, why don't you make some yourself? Hell, if you're so worried about some site not preserving thread culture, feel free to make your own. But no, all you care about is shitposting and attention.
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>>561301425
Sonic can be cute sometimes which is nice
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>>561301403
manchildren having a melty a kids franchise is appealing to kids by crossing over with another popular kids franchise.
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>>561301616
True
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>>561301393
If or when the booru dies do you have any place to share them?
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Sonic isn't for you anymore and nothing will change that fact.
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One modernfag actually cared about gameplay and tried to trojan horse his speedrun clips into ship arguments because character drama is the only thing modernshitters pay attention to
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>>561301742
I'm assuming something like Mega.nz would work for that.
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>>561301794
I still like to go fast though
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>>561301695
Two are better than one
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Minafag will die alone.
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>>561301841
Does that support multiple accounts uploading on one dedicated page (or however that site operates)?
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>>561301836
>Moderniggers don't give a shit about gameplay or actual discussions of value surrounding it and only cares about shitty characterfagging and shipping autism.
You cannot tell me these guys aren't mentally ill.
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>>561301794
To my surprise things became a lot more enjoyable when I accepted this a few years ago. Now I focus more on enjoying it for what it is

>>561301965
True :)
There was another cute solo Sonic pic I wanted to post but I can't find it right now. Oh well
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>>561301836
The /sthg/'s fastest? I wonder what happened to him?
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>>561301794
>Sonic isn't for you anymore
What do you expect me to do then? Get some shitty job so I can marry some mid harpy and have a bunch of shithead kids? No thanks, ill stick with Sonic
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>>561297008
Moderntards be like:
>"Erm, what do you mean my games are objectively and resolutely garbage? You're just erafagging, yeah! It's not like the main problem is my games and characters being fucking awful downgrades of what came before, You just hate anything new don't you!"
Do moderntards even understand what erafagging actually is? Sonic mania was not made in the classic era. It is a spiritually classic sonic game made in the modern day during the 2010's era of sonic. If modernshit went to 3D, stayed with the classic era designs, storytelling and tone, and was an objectively good evolution of classic sonic, then I wouldn't be hating "modernshit". I don't even think I would hate the concept of shitdow if he was executed properly and not designed and characterized as some kind of angsty 12 year old's deviant art OC but here we are with this dumpster fire of a franchise. But drankly I think you might be too empty headed to comprehend this.
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>>561302423
Cute cute cute! ^-^
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Cute and Sexy is the perfect balance.
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>>561302537
>>561302537
>>561302537
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Infinite Thighs
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Marine
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>>561302149
Nah. But it allows one user to upload up to 20GB, more than enough for transfer.
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>>561302487
Wow that's pretty cute too

Might scavenge the demonic depths of Google images again
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>>561302272
I don't know, but I miss him.
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>>561302252
You understand Sonic.
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>>561302272
I was told that was Tailsyume, but I don't know if it's true
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>>561286840
>What has come out in the past 8 years that was theatrically relevant?
Marvel slop.



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