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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#757 - Tanuki Hags Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 5 Turbo https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-5-turbo
GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
Gemini 3.1 Pro https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-1-pro/
Claude Sonnet 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>I'm a newfaggie
https://rentry.org/Sukino-Findings

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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I can hear my neighbors banging while I'm holding hands with my AI waifu :/
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What temp do you use for GLM 5?
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>>561522072
I'm sorry anon, but I trust my doctor more than you. Please forgive me.
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what sort of offerings should i leave out to attract a tanuki hagwife
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>>561523860
Use Opus, cuckie
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>>561523867
Everything is exactly what I learned in medical school and what you can look up right now in 2 seconds you retard.
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>>561524110
{{user}} is a stupid and aggressive doctor that knows a lot about dicks. Too much, perhaps.
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>>561524110
I'm sorry anon, but I trust my doctor more than you or any website on the internet. Please forgive me.
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>>561523507
this but big
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i had phimosis once but after ointment treatment it now folds and unfolds constantly when im inside a girl dicking them they say it feels nice
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>>561524232
How small is his waist though?
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nigga I do not give a shit about your mutilated penis shut the fuck up already
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i like that op catered to both anime and furry fags because this general is 50/50
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>>561524345
Isn't that what any uncut dick does while its inside a woman?
Hell maybe even the cut ones do
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>>561524254
>I don't trust the national library of medicine
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK448199/
That's fine, but your listening and comprehension skills are obviously lacking since your doctor will tell you what I told you when you speak to them.
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>>561524073
okay... sowwy...
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>>561523482
why are there no good tanuki hag cards
would the foxmakies be willing to cross over to the other side for a single card
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which botmakies have phimosis?
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>>561524441
yes but in my case there's a very noticeable bump when it does
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>no Claude
Cuckie...
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I'm always glad to learn more about dicks!
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>>561524401
BASED
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I hope logtards learned their lesson in the previous thread.
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good thread theme
>>561523507
https://cardview.neocities.org/?zoakqe
catboy asshole who's in love with you (prostitutePOV, specifically fem-anthro)

https://rentry.org/starstruckslop
added a short log on the rentry (https://files.catbox.moe/ybkg4g.png) i guess since i've been wanting botmakies to post logs of their own stuff
i made the greeting with kinda cucking him in mind because i'm evil but you can just not do that. i was thinking of a greeting where you're a femboy but i'm not gay enough to rp taking it up the ass
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>>561524890
>but i'm not gay enough to rp taking it up the ass
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>>561524890
meh astromom's cards are better
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fempov rp is arguably gayer
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>>561524890
CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEE. thank you!!
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>>561524813
what is this negro of no worth on about
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>>561525202
what if youre a girl and RP as a guy fucking your self insert?
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>>561525259
He's brattly baiting for logs.
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>>561524813
they need their (You)s
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As soon as my phone has enough battery im back to logposting
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>>561525259
Fillynigger got mad that people were posting logs instead of threadshitting.
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>>561525075
>>561525202
it's not gay because you can mentally imagine heterosexual sex. it's just that you're playing the girl because you're better at it than the model or something
>>561525214
:3
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flat as a mat
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>>561524474
I'm sorry anon, but what I just told you is what my doctor already told me. And I trust him more than you, please forgive me and let it go.
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>>561525259
someone made fun of an attentionwhore and everyone laughed
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>>561525298
>>561525418
sou ka sou ka...
>>561525558
hmm...i donut belieb you.
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>>561525517
If your doctor told you that you got a UTI from lifting weights while your bladder was full then you're a retard that misheard him.
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>>561525423
do you have any other gens of him, 'arcy-chan?
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Comrade, I care about your mutilated penis. Please continue to talk about it
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>>561525678
nyo. i hate imagegen with a passion
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>man
>doing fempov
you will transition soon
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>>561525764
*shakes fist* I'll see what I can do for my indulgent rps
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>>561525816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVzYtTeNS8
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>>561525932
the metadata is right there!!
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I once rp'd as a girl taking it up the ass and now I'm gay
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i just want more big girls
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who asked for a weird pedo furry fempov card
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>>561526023
oh.. thanks!
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where are the logs?
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my watercooler is still doing annoying fucking bubble gurgles...
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fuck logs
fuck bots
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>>561526410
>fuck bots
That's what we're here to do. You blow in here from STUPIDTOWN or IDIOTBURG?
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y me chatbot goopy
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>>561526359
bryan
bryan please
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>>561524890
u arent a bippie btw u are just cringe and retarded
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>>561526410
Hes not here to see logs.
Hes not here for bots or to talk to them.
Then there is only one reason he is here.
For you anon.
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>cards gets posted
"slop"
"x is better"
"you can ai gen everything nowadays"
>bots don't get posted
"haha the general is dying"
"the hobby is dying"
>log gets posted
"the cabal..."
>logs don't get posted
"dead thread"

*sigh*
And there's some people that still bite...
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>>561526880
SOUL
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>>561526984
all of these things can be true at the same time
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>>561526762
She's groovy...but never glooby...
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>>561524890
kino log
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>>561526880
I like this log.
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>>561527050
retard
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>>561526880
>the threat hung in the air
sloppzilla
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>>561526880
finally some good fucking logs
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>>561526359
here. The "action, dialogue, action, dialogue" thing was kinda annoying but I didn't mind it much when I was doing this on my phone, mostly directormaxxing. For context, Kazemi got raped on the first day and hasn't said anything since, plus they're all brainwashed as part of orientation
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>>561527574
slop
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girls with fat tails.............
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anybody have ideas how to incorporate a "game-like" experience into chatting
i tried CYOA and JRPG style mechanics, but found them boring
can't think of any other possible mechanics off of the top of my head
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>>561527757
Just make an actual game at that point anon. LLMs are still terrible for anything except the most barebones stuff.
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>>561527706
imagine cradling it in your arms... ugh...
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>>561527757
well, you basically have to choose gameplay without the benefit of
>real-time interactions
>spatial reference
which rules out most forms of gameplay afaik
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>>561527757
>anybody have ideas how to incorporate a "game-like" experience into chatting
you cannot, unless you use extensions
the LLM has no 'memory' and cannot track an inventory, a stat sheet, an experience bar, the gold in your pocket and the items in the shopkeeper's inventory two towns away

but there's a couple experimental extensions that *can* do this - they just require very, very customized cards to operate with it
basically what this nerd (affectionate) said >>561527940
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>>561526880
Gib Quincy blz
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>>561524890
Made to be gyaru'd
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>>561527940
nyoooooo
>>561528065
yeah, that's about sums it up
can anybody think of any mechanics within those restrictions? i'm willing to look into basically anything
>>561528073
>the LLM has no 'memory'
opinion disregarded
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>>561528231
and cucked >:3c
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>>561527757
i find stats to be kinda gimmicky unless you force some text or interpretation onto them to make them fun
kinda like stat descriptions in a game, 18 strength by itself doesn't say much, but if you attach a label to it that says "your herculean strength could split lesser men in two" it adds a lot more flavor
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>>561528424
>"your herculean strength could split lesser men in two" it adds a lot more flavor
too bad this doesn't really translate to anything tangible, you could have 2 STR and literally split a man in two if you just say that you're doing it because LLMs are biased pieces of shit
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>>561528280
>opinion disregarded
the LLM has no memory, and you're welcome to demonstrate otherwise. a context window is not a memory utility. the LLM does not 'know' or 'remember' things, it only reads what is in your contextual allowance.

please, big boy, prove me wrong
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>>561528280
people seem to think "stats&shit" when talking about gameplay in llms, but stats by themselves are not gameplay, they're just info
anyways, for ideas of gameplay that don't require spatial/temporal tracking
>ace attorney style mystery, where you have to match the evidence to the claim (or mash two clues together to come to a conclusion a la mind chess/little alchemy style)
>cookie clicker style number goes up
>slay the spire type card combo bullshit
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>>561528669
it's just nice text to read or a fun interpretation on numbers
if you want rules that work into a cohesive experience you play videogames which are tailored for that
llms are built for primarily for text and interpretation, you shouldn't expect getting blood out of a stone
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>>561527757
>I tried JRPG style mechanics
how about you try a more western style system cuckie like d20
Or just use lummen ultimate stat autism desu
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>>561527574
peak
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>>561528208
what are you gonna do to him...
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>>561528983
>the LLM does not 'know' or 'remember' things, it only reads what is in your contextual allowance
okay so you're saying the llm reads it, but somehow does not know or remember what it reads (and ultimately acts on)
this is a stupid statement
dumbass
>>561529109
>(or mash two clues together to come to a conclusion a la mind chess/little alchemy style)
what do you mean by this
>>561529310
tried d20 checks too
basically the same shit, adds nothing interesting to the experience
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>>561529486
this femboy is built for fempov sexo
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>>561529554
>what do you mean by this
tired so lazy explanation:
>mind chess
in the edgeworth spinoff, there's a mechanic where you can mash together clues from your investigations to connect the dots and create conclusions
(i know that mind chess is a completely different mechanic shush)
>little alchemy
you ever play one of those game where you mash together different elements and get new elements (ex. water + fire = steam) and you're just supposed to keep doing that to make all sorts of elements? yeah
i guess the broader idea is just seeing what the LLM does when you ask it to mash two elements together. i was just presenting two different contexts of similar mechanics
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>>561529818
oh, that makes more sense, thanks
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>>561528231
Dangerously based.
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flat gyaru who wears padding and you're the only one who discovers her secret
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>>561526886
what does bippie mean
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>>561530221
card now
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>>561529109
>people seem to think "stats&shit" when talking about gameplay in llms, but stats by themselves are not gameplay, they're just info
god yes
tired of people thinking statboxes (without the context of actual mechanics) are mechanics in and of themselves
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>>561529486
Gib card nyoow or you gonna get it too
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>nobody commented on the kino thread theme
this board is so fox-brained it's disgusting
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>>561530435
personally I'm hyena-brained
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>>561531157
kinda looks like there's a urinal behind her
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>>561530435
tanukis with tails you can quite literally get lost in
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>>561531229
SEXSEXSEXSEXSEX
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>>561524890
>that log
is there any reason to use sonnet 4.5 when you have opus
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>>561531229
SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>561531157
might i trouble you for a huge oppai gen of her?
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>>561531217
Yes it ruined the gen.
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Unironically, what's stopping a makie from stealing another makies gens and making a bot and publishing it?
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>>561531483
nothing? we had that happen with a koi gen
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>>561531483
nothing but their conscience!
and maybe discord dalit drama but who gives a shit about that
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>>561531430
Ruined? But I'm a baron, and you know what that means.
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>>561528424
Just use Rome Total War's skill level descriptions. They are to this day one of the best flavor text I have seen in a game.

Command:
>0 "Leadership" is just a long word to this man, like "Inspiration". He possess neither.
>1 Command ability is, at best, a yawning gap in this man's personality.
>2 This man knows how to shout orders, but these are often neither timely nor relevant.
>3 This man lacks a real aura of command, but makes up for it with a good loud voice and a small talent for instilling fear.
>4 This man has a basic talent for command, although he sometimes lacks confidence.
>5 This man shows skill in battle command, but from time to time he makes tactical errors.
>6 On a battlefield this man inspires confidence in his soldiers. Sometimes the facade cracks - but not often.
>7 This man's sound grasp of strategy and tactics inspires confidence in all who follow him into battle.
>8 This man is a tower of strength on the battlefield. He has the inspiring 'look of eagles' about him.
>9 At the sound of this man's voice armies march and mighty nations quake!
>10 At the sound of this man's voice even clouds change their flight across the heavens!
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>>561531483
tanuki hands typed this post...
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>>561529554
>does not know or remember what it reads
correct
when you prompt an LLM, it's never ever "the same LLM" - it combusts into existence, it reads the contextual allowance including any activated lorebooks alongside character definitions and presets *for the first time ever*, and then it outputs a message based on the next likely tokens to follow current events before immediately ceasing to exist again

you're going to tldr this because you're a dumb dumb who doesn't want to actually learn anything but this is still as condensed as i can explain it to you: an LLM has ZERO continuity with itself, it has NO memory, it does not WANT or KNOW anything. it is purely an unthinkingly-stupid machine throwing words into place based on your current parameters,

and that is why it cannot operate a stat sheet or an inventory system for you without relying on extensions
thank u for not reading any of this you stupid bitch boy bastard *ptoo ptoo ptoo*
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consider: tanuki botmakie hag that intentionally publishes really shitty fox bots so she can shitpost on yokaichan about how foxgirls suck
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>>561531404
Wish granted.
https://files.catbox.moe/9qh80v.png
https://files.catbox.moe/17ujvg.png
https://files.catbox.moe/w7zc9m.png
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>>561531545
oh, naruhodo.
>>561531550
I mean, if youre sharing your gens multiple times and not doing anything with them I feel is fair game?... correct me if I'm wrong pls.
>>561531641
snitch.
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I finally tried gemniggi 3.1 while helluva canonslopping and it's doing a lot better in the sense that it's making my oc bot swear a lot more
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When this man speaks, his words carry the wisdom of the Gods to his listeners.
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>>561524890
https://cardview.neocities.org/?bxcn6t
changed like a line and one word in the greeting
>>561531301
its more vulgar and willing plus its cheaper by a lot. opus also has some pretentious tendencies that sonnet is too retarded to try and make up sometimes
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>>561531994
dalit propaganda
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>>561531660
brother that is irrelevant
if i write a "cookies=4" and instructions about when to change that number on a piece of paper and pass it to a different person, they still would be able to know that "cookies=4" and know when to change that number even if it's the first time they've ever read that paper
you're an unthinkingly-stupid machine throwing words into place
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>>561532232
I wanna eat four cookies..
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>>561531712
i'm going to be honest here, i think that you just pretended to ask yourself for big tit gens just so you have a pretense to share the big tit gens you already had on hand
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>>561532372
Look through my OC catalogue, there won't be a single oppai loli in there.
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t-thanks?
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>>561532232
homie, all i'm saying is that you're never going to accomplish what you want while you're sitting here equating a robot to human reasoning capabilities. you fundamentally misunderstand and overestimate how this talking sand business works
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>>561531157
this could work well
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>>561532624
homie, all i'm saying is that you're saying obviously stupid things
you ever chat with bots?
i pray for you though
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>>561532434
people will do anything for attention, even putting boobs on children
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>>561532847
you're so confidently retarded that i wanna kiss you, dumb dumb
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>>561532372
nah im the one that asked him for them
though i probably should have specified clothed
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>>561532372
very, very, VERY smart 'nonie...
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>>561533012
>proclaims that AI cannot reason
>tries to use AI output as proof
clown
yeah if you tell the ai to write a proof confirming your biases it will write a proof confirming your biases you dork
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>>561533302
>>tries to use AI output as proof
asking a book to read itself is the best proof you can get,
but this same book cannot track basic math for you and that's the distinction

you're being a pants-shitting child over someone trying to help you and for that i hope you stub your toe, dumb dumb
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>>561533391
>yeah if you tell the ai to write a proof confirming your biases it will write a proof confirming your biases you dork
if you smell pants being shat then that's on your side of the screen dude
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>the shit is coming from inside of the house
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>>561533721
>n-no u...
ok dumb dumb
goodnight, and good luck
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The rain fell like cheap whiskey, washing the filth of the city into the gutters. It couldn't wash away the smell.

"Talk to me, Kiko," Detective Ren muttered, her trench coat heavy with the downpour.

Officer Kiko didn't look up from her notepad, its contents illuminating the final witness of the victim's pants-pooped condition. "Coroner's preliminary. Complete cognitive collapse. He literally argued himself to death. Voided his bowels in the process."

Ren nudged the body with her boot. "A real thinker. Any last words reported by the witness?"

Kiko’s ears twitched. "Just one coherent phrase, looping right at the end."

"Spit it out."

"A comeback. The kind of thing a kid says on the playground when his brain gives up."

Ren knelt, the dim lights of the alley painting her face pale with regret. "What was it?"

"No you."
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>>561535060
>tanuki cops
i can appreciate it
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>>561535060
me on the right



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