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Conquerors Edition
>Previous
>>561473374

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Feb 10 Machinery of Oppression https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj5JS68ny14
Mar 17 Entrenched Division https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3zP5GWoQi0
Mar 17 Roadmap https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/2033907671036743796
Mar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0

>LATEST PATCHES
Mar 17 1.006.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541133047968301984
Mar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939
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Squids should give us Elden Ring ancient kingdoms for us to carpet bomb
Im always tickled by advanced military vs ancient niggas
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>this is another episode where the other three degenerate niggers don't take anti-tank weapons on principle, and we're dealing with 8 titans, 3 empalers, and 4 chargers
Watching these bastards run, die, and leave is pretty damn good.
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De escalator is the new meta on appropriators.

thank you for your attention to this matter
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>>561542342
Huh, weird, you spelled AC flak wrong.
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>>561542342
just because it finally doesn't suck ass against everything doesn't mean it's meta
at best it's usable and fun but you're still at the mercy of arc RNG so you might kill a mech in 3 shots or you might shoot all six and not kill it because the arcs went to all the limbs and spread the damage out. At least its a stun weapon that actually fucking stuns things though
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dedgame
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lower the difficulty!
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>>561541545
Damn, that is way better.
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I will not be gaslit into thinking the game ballooning to 150 gigs was nothing other than Swigger incompetence.
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>>561542790
Everyone here agrees with you 10000% tho. Even the swigs themselves admitted that their HDD "optimizations" did little to improve loading times.
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I don't fucking care, SMGs and pistols were changed/buffed the wrong way.

>absolutely zero long-range capability because of abysmal drag factor
>low rate of fire makes absolutely zero sense since the use of pistol rounds should easily allow the opposite
>they possess the same level of armor penetration as full rifle cartridges

Here's how they should work:

>unless specifically designed otherwise, they should be AP1 but also have very good damage, regular and durable
>they should mostly have higher ROF than assault rifles so that at close range they become bullet hose terrors against chaff and also be able to pick off weak spots on medium enemies
>their absurd damage output should be counterbalanced by lack of armor penetration
>instead of drag factor, they should be counterbalanced using a small bit of spread and massive HMG-tier recoil
>this way, with single shot a SMG or pistol can succeed at limited long-range plinking, but be utterly unable to DPS due to spread and recoil

There. Now they're terrors at close range, and have limited long-range capability, but have low armor pen so they struggle against armored enemies.
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servo assisted should reduce sway and recoil instead of give throwing range and limb health
peak physique should give increased throwing range now that the melee bonus is barely a factor
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>652 kills on mech ayys.
Lasermaxxing + HMG emplacement is strong.
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>SWEET LIBERY
>M'LEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGG
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>>561542524
Meanwhile, 13,241 players online on Marathon. And mind you, 80% of the playerbase is on PC. That's fucking abysmal.
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>>561542910
SMGs should boost mobility.

For all of this game's simtism, the fact that guns don't impact move speed via weight is nuts.
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>>561542910
>AP1 or higher damage
you could just keep the damage similar but not reduce it to AP1 and achieve the same effect, the only unarmored enemies in the game are chaff, making SMGs AP1 would for instance make them useless against alpha commanders
>high ROF
there is a distinct lack of SMGS with fire rates around the 800-900 rpm range like most modern smgs have, although the knight exists. Many older SMGs like sten guns, some thompsons, mp-40s had slower fire rates like the defender and stoker do.
>HMG tier recoil on an SMG
the whole point of these guns is that they have controllable recoil, I'm not saying drag is good but giving an smg more recoil than an assault rifle makes no sense
Just increase the spread enough so that it's hard to do precision shooting past like 40m
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>>561542790
>>561542870
asset duplication is an old trick from the days of console games loading shit from CD/DVD/BD with a low-speed drive

with any spinning media the read head has to travel multiple times around to gather scattered data, this is why de-fragmentation is so important too.

optical discs were really slow, so by packing every bit of data needed into the level file it could all be read in one go without the read head hunting and pecking, and with BD especially there was plenty of room to duplicate data. this is why you saw so many games be exactly 50GB, because that is the capacity of a dual layer BD, they just filled it up to capacity to lower loading times.

this trick never had any place on PC, even a shitty internal HDD is so optimized and fast compared to an optical disc that it doesn't matter much. and since consoles started installing games to internal storage now too it is a pointless trick on there as well.

but industry idiots kept doing it because it was """standard practice""", to this day unreal engine "cooks" the data by default, that is epic's name for duplicating and packing data for optimal read speed.

in the steam update post narrowhead admitted they did zero testing and just did it because it was the received wisdom. industry professionals are all idiots, swiggers are not special in this regard.

to calibrate your expectations, crysis was an at the time absurdly huge 12GB (somehow packed into 8GB DVD with germanic witchcraft), it had a lot of content. crysis remastered with 8K textures is barely double that. there is no reason for any game to be even 50GB, it's all data duplication. entire hitman trilogy with 3+ games of content was de-duplicated down to 70GB.
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downright impressive
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>>561542910
SMGs aren't bullet hoses any more than a full rifle, and they certainly don't have even comparable stopping power. Really the advantages of an smg is that it's small and light weight. They should have very high handling and low recoil, with more rounds per mag and more mags per loadout. Their baseline accuracy, armor pen, velocity, and damage should be worse than a rifle.
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>>561543508
how the fuck
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>>561543508
>20 deaths
Good LORD, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE?
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is the AT mine trigger oversensitive again? I feel like they explode randomly when you're near them recently.
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>>561543620
I'm guessing the 3755 friendly fire damage has something to do with it.
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>>561543508
All im seeing is 4 samples extracted fucking go back down there
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>>561543571
>>561543620
Level 102 btw
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>>561543723
friendly damage is and has been broken and grossly innacurate since launch. you kill someone with an HE grenade and it'll report thousands of friendly fire damage
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>>561543785
I just tell myself that the guy with 250 hours in the game who's playing like an absolute retard got told to let his little brother play for a while.
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>>561543723
Idk man, at some point, mr.retard commando should figure out not to stand close to red beacons.
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>>561543508
since he's wearing peak physique he might have been trying to melee shit but even if you attribute all 5 accidentals that's still 15 deaths all on his own
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>>561543871
>melee kills 0
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>>561543904
>Under the most generous circumstances, friendly fire could only account for 5 out of 20 of his deaths
>116 kills, averaging 5.8 kills per life in a PvE shooter
>Level 102
>Times reinforcing only add up to 14
I would not wish this upon lobby the faggiest Swede.
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They should just rework this thing to brainwash enemies into fighting for your side. Bump the duration up to 20-30 seconds and you're golden.
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>>561543418
>making SMGs AP1 would for instance make them useless against alpha commanders
so they can just make the claws 1 armour to match the legs. if you destroy both claws the alpha commander dies, btw
if they do that they can also lower the spray and pray back to 1 pen and triple the pellet count per shell
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why would an smg be useful against an alpha commander?
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>>561544223
The SUB machine gun kneels to the ALPHA commander, as it should be.
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>>561543508
I don't think I've ever seen someone die that many times. Especially after the 60 day patch.
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https://files.catbox.moe/fm30qv.rar

>How to use
Put CheatMenuConfig into game directory (common/helldivers2). Put .exe and .dll anywhere together. Press INSERT key in-game
>.dll? Is it safe?
Yes. If you get a warning it's a false positive.
>How do I farm SC
Mission tab - Farming - Check AFK Farm
>Can I alt-tab while I farm SC?
Yes
>Will I get banned?
No, never. See: https://files.catbox.moe/41dr7s.jpg
>How do I farm Medals/XP quick for new warbond?
Check max mission reward, max difficulty reward, instant shuttle, reveal hidden outposts, complete all mission tasks (Mission tab)
Instant arrows minigame (Misc tab)
Drop on any mission and extract
>I can't see the overlay for some reason
Make sure DX of the game matches DX of the menu (SavedSettings.ini)
>It crashes when I open the game
Disable external framegens like nvidia smooth motion.
>Linux?
Maybe, it just works, we didn't add support for it.
1. Set the game to use Steam Tinker Launch
2. When STL launches click "Main menu" then "Game menu"
3. In game launch menu tick "Use custom command" and select the exe
4. Tick "Fork custom command"
5. Tick "Inject custom command" and set the wait time to 10 or 15 seconds
6. You'll know it's working if you see the little injector window pop up saying it was successful
>It's malware
And you're a retard.
>brown
>jeet
Don't care
>Fuck sweden
Fuck sweden


Version 2.7.5.0 changes:
Fixed all broken features, including those that were broken with the release of 2.7.3.0 and after game patch 6.1;
GGBypass.exe has been removed; GG Bypass is now integrated into the menu itself and patches the game internally. HD2CheatMenuInjector.exe will be included in the menu archive instead of GGBypass.exe;
The Player tab has been renamed to Main, and features in it are now better sorted;
Many dropdowns have been updated and expanded with content for game patch 6.1;
Other minor changes related to some features and the menu in general.
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SMGs are fun if you use it as an elevated sidearm when youre using a pistol as a bunker buster and have an OP support
Stoker fucking rips
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>>561544093
the point is that if part of your rebalancing is changing whole classes of weapons to AP1 while increasing their damage it would require them to also change several enemies and at the end of the day it's completely pointless when you can just keep them at light pen. You'd end up with an AP1 gun with lots of damage and durable damage that you can basically only use to shoot charger butts and fleshmobs. They would also be almost completely useless against overseers, who are covered in AP2 armor.
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>>561544085
It should have been an EMS stun gun, considering it's blatantly inspired by the MGS tranq gun.
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>>561544303
You posted this the last twenty threads already, no need to keep at it.
This is just becoming a low quality ritual post.
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>>561544501
and you've been seething at it for the last twenty threads, no need to keep at it.
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>>561544303
You posted this the last twenty threads already, please keep at it.
This is now becoming a part of the thread culture.
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>>561544318
>that you can basically only use to shoot charger butts and fleshmobs.
I think you overestimate the prevalence of AP2 armour. Hive guard, brood/alpha commanders, rocket striders, and overseers are the only enemies that have AP2 parts that would get in the way of AP1 weapons being able to kill them.
Overseers are another simple fix where you can lower the leg and arms to AP1 as well.

As it stands AP0 and AP1 are completely useless, irrelevant armour values so maybe their should be a reevaluation of armour values across the board to make the full range of penetration actually matter. More balancing levers is a good thing.
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>>561544501
it's some jeet wanting to promote his malware just ignore it
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>>561544551
>"Everyone that doesnt like me spamming every single thread is CLEARLY just one person!"
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>Want to play bots
>Marfark is soiborgs
>Let's go somewhere else
>City
>City
>Commando
>City

Why can't I filter these out. I don't want to play city or commando missions and I don't want to host a game and do 90% of the mission by myself.
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>>561544732
They're not useless, AP1 or 0 parts take full damage from light pen guns instead of getting the armor match reduction. Again your balancing changes for SMGs would require changes to several enemies to make it work and there would be very little point when you can just keep them at light pen and balance them a different way, like increasing spread. We don't need more unexplained autism behind the scenes when it comes to weapons.
All of this is completely moot anyway because arrowhead won't balance this crap and if they did they'd fuck it up.
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>>561544953
Yes. His name is Gucci Slippers.
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what's this forbidden flying box?
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>>561544953
>"Everyone that does like me spamming every single thread is CLEARLY just one person!"
Do you even understand that it works both ways?
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Bugs in the metropolis is the absolute peak of the gameplay of this game.
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>>561545318
Anti material ammo doesnt touch material
Open a book
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>>561545354
Everyone in the thread is gucci niggers.
The cheaterfag AND the anticheaterfag
ACfag AND AMRfag
Flutetroon and anti flutetroon
Rinzu and Tundra
All of them, Gucciniggers.
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>>561545579
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today I will equip the cookout
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>>561545579
We are gucciniggers
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belt fedGODS
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>>561545668
I am gucciniggers
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>>561545579
Thats something Gucciniggers would say
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>>561545794
He is the gucciniggers!
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Oh youre a nigger alright
Just not a GUCCI one
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>thread divided
>gucciniggers mentioned
>thread united
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What is THE nuke build? I want to utterly annihilate everything as much as physically possible. I do no care for the environment or my teammates. I will only take this build into ICBM missions.
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>>561546146
Hammer, shield backpack, 500kg, leveller.
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>>561543508
>20 deaths
Impressive.
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>>561546146
the only nuclear weapons you actually have are portable hellbomb and leveler I think, so those two?
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Really wish defense missions were actually fun where instead of landing infront of you they just came off map with 3x the enemies per wave.
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>>561546146
Portable hellbomb
Leveller
380
Flex spot. Lots of potentially good options like orbital napalm, orbital laser, ABRL, 500kg, etc.
Eruptor
Ultimatum
Dynamite or Giga grenades
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>>561546432
I wish they were like Mann Vs Machine
Just a constant river of bad guys walking to the end of the map
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>>561546146
You just need the portable hellbomb. Its blast completely dwarfs everything else, so you're better off making every other part of the build cover its blind spots and be a suitable vehicle for its delivery.
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>>561546143
we just needed to be reminded that it's not what we love that brings us together, it's what we hate
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Who is gucci slippers? Some sort of /hdg/'s #1 elitist shitposter or something?
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>>561546146
Sex
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>>561546519
Every general on 4chan has a boogeyman we all point to
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>>561545362
>W with a neutral smile instead of the usual aggresive frown
wow she looks way more attractive/not obnoxious this way somehow
did she mellow out in the story recently or something
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>>561546523
I have this incel freak chvd condition where I imagine the anthro woman as... an attractive human.
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>>561546590
Disgusting.
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>>561546519
a black man (derogatory)
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d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244080818666/76561198066017633
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>>561546575
She always looks cute, even when she's angry.
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>>561546782
2/4
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Expendable heavy Exo suit when
>you cant get out
>you will self destruct in 3 minutes
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>>561546782
4/4
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>>561546940
All mechs are already expendable.
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>>561546940
>a power suit that kills anyone who gets in it
>why? that doesn't make any sense
>funny haha
this guy works at arrowhead
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>>561547126
Nah, power at the cost of ones life is a cool trope.
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The Raped
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The bugged
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>>561547209
that's great man. However it makes literally no sense in this context, it's too dumb even for super earth. They would at least let the pilot eject on the off chance he could survive another minute and kill more stuff before dying.
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>>561544501
It's the same discord shitskins ritual posting this. Don't bother talking to them. Just call them brown and move on.
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>>561547209
Maybe a bigger fatter juggernaut suit that you can explode if you want
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Anybody try the Trident on nusquids? It sounds good on paper but I'm not sure if there isn't just too many of them.
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>>561548830
It fucks.
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>>561548998
hell yeah
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>>561548998
Slut gun.
I prefer my gun a pure virgin.
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I hate Gatekeepers sniping me through buildings.
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>>561549517
and they say gatekeeping doesn't work
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>>561549585
It works because they will now suffer as I bring RR and kill everyone and ruin my team's day by calling supplies for myself.
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I was wondering about this strange disparity between the factions, where preventing a call for reinforcements was impossible on bugs, hard on bots and incredibly easy on squids.
Glad to see the squids upped their game and it's pretty much impossible too.
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>>561549774
>Glad to see the squids upped their game and it's pretty much impossible too
Just shoot the one and only guy on screen that can call it in.
It isn't that hard.
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>>561549641
Who the fuck brings RR to squids?
The whole faction is countered by AC.
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>>561549962
Every faction is countered by AC.
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>>561550079
Squids are more countered than others by AC.
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>>561549946
all the new drones can call it too. and they're never-ending.
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>>561549774
if theres 1 drone by itself shoot it lmao you'll never mistake it for the fucking groups of 20, it has that weird scanning bullshit too
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>>561550079
How do you counter chargers and bile titans with AC?
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>>561550606
>chargers
3 shoots to the ass, it's literrally easier than killing hulks with AC, for titans i just bring EATs.
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>>561549774
With squids they compensate for how easy it is to stop call ins by just spawning in patrols on top of you anyway. Of course if they do manage to call in a drop, they made them way more bullshit to punish you for failing to take out the incredibly telegraphed enemy that spawned behind you and inside a building.
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>>561549962
Me. I will not think, I will just shoot at top of it's body and it will die in one hit.
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Bringing suboptimal guns is fun
NEATs for today



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