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>>561462943

Patch is out
https://www.dota2.com/patches/7.41

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Wiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Game
News: https://dota2.com/news
Patches: https://dota2.com/patches
Updates: https://dota2.com/news/updates
Lore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Lore
For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lol
Bug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues
X: https://x.com/dota2

>STATISTICS
https://dota2protracker.com/
https://dotabuff.com
https://opendota.com
https://stratz.com
https://stats.spectral.gg
Personal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/

>ESPORTS
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esports
https://datdota.com
https://dota2.com/esports
https://gosugamers.net/dota2
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Leaguechads are laughing at us...
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but i dont think of them at all
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free my niggas negrobook
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>>561649837
Why are they laughing at us?
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WHY DO MY POS1 KEEP PICKING TA!!!
Every single time they are 100% useless.
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won a bane game was fun
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hydra razor
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dumb dotards >:3
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why not gorgc online
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>>561650131
this but last pick AM
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>>561649751
just let us die
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>>561654209
*shallow graves you*
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>Someone on my team picks brood, oh nice a smurf on my team
>He's just shit
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>>561655187
>brood, tinker, arc warden, invoker on my team
>is shit and feeds
>brood, tinker, arc warden, invoker on the enemy team
>single handedly wins the game
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Dude are the people in the crowd so...old?
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>>561655991
unc game
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>>561655991
dota2 released in 2011
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>>561656047
>>561656046
So did CSGO approximately and League. Their crowds are always young af. What the fuck man.
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>>561656181
cs2 is like 2 years old
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>>561655850
you are the only constant
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>>561656181
CS rejuvenated because it's an FPS and League is more casual so it's easier for people to get into it and it's more of a social group game for teens anyway
Dota is the last of the mohicans in terms of complexity, a product of forgotten times
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dogshit laggy stream in big 26 lmao this game is a fucking joke
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>>561656372
CS2 (Source) is just an updated version of CSGO (Source 2).
>>561656425
>Dota is the last of the mohicans in terms of complexity, a product of forgotten times
Okay, what do Starcraft crowds look like? Their game is also pretty unc coded.
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AmeGOD on the most busted carry of the patch hype
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>>561656516
starcraft is just dead
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>>561656516
>>561656516
>CS2 (Source) is just an updated version of CSGO (Source 2).
Fuck, I meant to say CS2 (Source 2) and CSGO (Source). You get the idea.
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>>561656516
I doubt Starcraft even has crowds anymore, it's my point. Dota won't ever rejuvenate the audience unless they oversimplify or strip like 2/3rds of game mechanics, and it's going the other way since they keep adding stuff
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>>561656648
Removed the facets though so maybe we're moving in the right direction.
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XG collapsing
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>>561656741
Also it's also a region bias, I'm sure there's plenty of thirdie kids or teenagers playing the game, from Russia, SEA or the middle east. But for European and American teenagers more simple, easygoing games which needs less time invested to become proficient is a bit better since they still hope to have a normal life once they become adults unlike most thirdies
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is lifestealer free win?
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WAKE THE FUCK UP DOTARDS

I WANNA PLAY DOTA
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>>561656046
The players are like 38 years old too. Didn't fy play in like fifteen TIs?
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It's counterintuitive to add the gorestorm facet in base infest but remove the ancient camp behind the safelane t1
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>>561657171
yup and won zero
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>>561656904
>easygoing games which needs less time invested to become proficient
Not a problem in CS though which also requires a lot of time to become proficient, considering the popularity and competition.
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>>561657171
first 2014 also he hasnt even played every year
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huge sand king
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Why did they buff SK again. This hero was good already for the last few months
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>>561656181
cs is an fps and not comparable
show me this young crowd watching league
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>>561656648
thats just unc talk
deadlock is hard and is popping off. souls games, which are much harder than fifa, gta, etc, sold a lot. people actually enjoy good complex games
dota has two problems that make it not attract new people:
1. the "strategy" genre died, fewer and fewer people a willing to play top-down mouse controlled units. (unlike fps which are still popular so noobs that enjoyed cod in their teens can get in to deadlocl or ow)
2. dota players are incredibly toxic in game and dont give a shit about community outside of the game. there's barely quality dota content out there to attract new people and the few that try get pushed away immediately by the raging retards.
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>>561657328
CS requires a lot of time to become good I agree but the baseline of foundational skill is very very low compared to dota. A first time CS player will understand the basic mechanics very fast whereas the dota player is lost for the first 200hrs or so if not more
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Bulba and rtz ruined lifestealer and ursa for me. The heroes always feel like instant losses. Starting to play vs bots again. I wish there were more singleplayer games that have the strategy variety of Dota. I like Xtreme in this game. This is not betting advice.
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>>561657632
The issue here is that Largo and Veno kinda fucks hard any kind of melee carries and particularly the likes of Ursa and Naix which can get kited fast
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SK and Beast are OP and have been for like a year now but they keep getting buffed for some reason
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>>561657536
Yes but most if not every single t1 org has an academy full of young players, some of which eventually find their way into main rosters. We're not talking about the basics or casuals here after all. How is it that there are young players who are ok with spending thousands of hours and then joining academies in CS, yet not in dota. Casuals never become pros in the first place, it's a different mindset. The kind of person who grinds CS and joins rosters could do it in Dota as well.
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Ame should just hit creeps why is he joining every fight that's not like my GOAT
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>>561657737
what hc do you pick against largo?
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>>561658070
>How is it that there are young players who are ok with spending thousands of hours and then joining academies in CS, yet not in dota.
There's plenty of teens in dota duking it out in tier3 but they're all russian. Just look at the current Navi roster, a bunch of teenage ukrainians who finally broke out in tier1. It's just a geographical issue I guess, Dota became a third worlder game
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NOT EVEN CHINESE GIVE A FUCK ABOUT DOTA ANYMORE. OVER A BILLION OF THEM OVER THERE IN CHINA AND THEY'RE ALL PLAYING THIS FUCKING LEAGUE SHIT NOW.
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i got money riding on XG FUCK FUCK FUCK. they usually wake up in the 2nd game though
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ame cant even win with lifestealer...
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but I thought this year was rigged to try and bring the Chinese back into dota
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I mean this is a testament to nudota heroes Largo is just added to esports and he's been first pick/ban consistently and is OP in every kind of draft
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>>561658736
That's what TI is for.
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>>561658780
but his pub winrate is under 50% now? dotards?
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>safe lane lina
thats aa report
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>>561658963
He's breaking even on d2pt post-patch
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This post is probably not worth reading. League is kind of dead/has old crowds too. Best thing you could do (though probably not feasible) is a mobile port with cross-play using gyro if possible. Second best is PS5/Switch port with gyro controls. The problem with gyro controls is not many people or games use them, but its basically a slightly less accurate mouse. League is adding a WASD mode. Younger people don't really use desktop/laptop computers that much and have poor mouse and keyboard skills.

There are some pretty complex mobile games even if its fake depth. Every other gacha has like 5 different systems, 5 different currencies, 300 characters etc. There are a lot of RTSish games on mobile too. Both games are doing a poor job of marketing their games to younger kids. There are also fewer kids and fewer people having them in many countries where the game is popular.
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>first pick veno
what time line is this
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I thought this was a brown game why is the audience full of wh*tes
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that’s a big fucking cup
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ok i've finally solved it. i've solved the issue of feature creep once and for all. this post IS worth reading.

here's how valve can balance their ever-increasing desire to add more mechanics and bullshit to the game with the whole game falling apart due to sheer weight of complexity creep and retardation. introducing, REALMS ASUNDER update
>new option when queuing up: realm
>for example, Nightsilver Woods, Dragon Aerie, Helio Imperium or whatever
>the realms are basically the same map, but with "remixed" heroes, items, jungle creeps, objectives, etc. so the core game doesn't change, but there are limits to how much shit you have to take into account
>each realm has a different hero/item pools allowed. the hero pools are set for that realm, and only change between patches. that means if you only queue up on Helio Imperium, you will play against the same 60 or so heroes
>there can be overlap between realms for "staple" heroes and items, but the idea is to allow new/returning players to deal with a reduced amount of bloat when they pick up the game, and it allows valve to increase hero complexity without making the game awful to play
>when experienced players get bored, they can queue up on another realm and deal with a new hero pool, items etc.
>also makes it easier for valve to balance problematic heroes by separating them from their worst counters and so on
>valve can also tell which realms are incredibly unpopular (perhaps due to that realm having a bad meta or something)

after valve has finished fumbling deadlock, they should get started on the REALMS ASUNDER update
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>>561660361
Veno is OP now
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Gorgc's stream is ahead by like 30 seconds good job ESL
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chat is this true?
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>>561661771
oh my science
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ENTER MIDONE
exit shitone
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The weaver thread kinda has a double edge to it because people can see where you go once you're invis.
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>>561662132
yeah it's annoying
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>>561661462
i refuse to believe it
he is still the same squishy slow hero that feeds double digits
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>>561663571
Sure he's gonna die every fight but if he gets his spell combo off it's crazy good damage now because every debuff spreads
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Buff Hoodwink
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The best part of the new silencer is that it removes the urge to get a shard asap and fuck over your team in pursuit of "number go up". I'm 90% less toxic now.
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i've come around on liking that zesty tsunami guy, i just realised he's the one that wrote all the tips on howdoiplay.com
quinn i don't think i'll get over how he calls everything cute or giga or says words wrong like tankability instead of tankiness
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>>561665223
I hate the designated perma yelling hypeman that's casting every game (there's more than one of him)
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Lina's feet mentioned
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>>561666623
Where
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>>561666969
One guy in the crowd chugging beer had a paper crown with
>Lina's feet
written on it
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>>561667072
Damn screenshot please
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>>561667126
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>>561667236
BASED
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We need our own ohnepixel.
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>>561667236
king
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>>561667446
We already have one. IYKYK.
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I never get offlane even though it's a high demand role
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Wraith king exposed for the melee creep that he is. If he picked Abaddon shit would be different
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is it even worth it to go manta on am?
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>>561668325
abaddon would feel bad too
radiant draft is pretty anti-melee core
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>>561665753
The casting has been particularly bad this event
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>>561665223
>quinn i don't think i'll get over how he calls everything cute or giga or says words wrong like tankability instead of tankiness
quinn's fake positivity is so cringe
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>>561669375
yeah, he should be a soulless jaded husk like me
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>>561669375
quinn had to leave the scene because his hairline wouldn't be able to take losing TI again
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>>561669648
thank you for announcing your presence
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GabeN really hates us.
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>>561670054
how so?
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ame showing shitalis how to own on his best hero
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>>561670531
really was just the leshrac show
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As a non verbal autist and eternal choker I relate a lot to Ame
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>>561671124
IT'S HIS YEAR
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Either china wins the china TI or the game dies for real.
Chinky shoes status?
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>>561671420
china hasnt contributed anything of note for years
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When you hover over an ability in deadlock it tells you how much damage it actually does isn't that crazy?
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>>561671769
not really
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>>561671472
They would if there was a BP, chinks LOVE buying fugly worthless in game shit because that's how they show status.
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>>561673081
wew its fucking nothing
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Oh shit, Blake Sextus jumpscare at level 27!
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Why are they not banning largo? Why are they not picking largo?
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>>561673649
I might actually go for the tier 2 Mars skin after that. Whoever route the Quartero's Curios sections deserve a raise.
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el puppan is cooking with this draft
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uncGODS dont forget to take your blood pressure medicine
i forgot to take mine yesterday
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>>561675841
>take blood pressure medicine
>still feel like fainting when standing up from squats during cold fronts
it's over
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Pro Naga gaming
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>>561657506
Yea i just wish that dota was even more catered to pussies. And can't forget the "community" aka annoying redditors outside the game. I find matches in under 5 min. The playerbase is great when they aren't punished for saying what they want. Didn't like it? Mute them
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>300 creeps at 20 mins
Back in my time 300 creeps was too big of a number even 50 mins in
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>>561675841
>>561675960
>The carry wants you to gank.
>I'll gank right now, okay?
>You have to smoke together, it's what the carry wants.
>Da carry can sock me.
>I'd watch what I say, if I were you.
>Who do you think you are? You should be kissing my ass right now. Me and my stack support are holding this game together.
>We all are, together.
>NO NO! Offlaner is. Offlaner gold. Offlaner blood!
>You have to calm down.
>The T1, I knock it down! And you treat us like dogs!
>Offlane, this isn't personal.
>IT IS! IT IS PERSONAL! HNNG-
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can I do anything with these??
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>>561677186
Weakest NagaGOD...
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Who's making this "boiOnIoniOng" noise in the match?
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>>561677585
The Tumbler's Toy. Do you not pick or use it?
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>>561677642
I'm a returning player... from 13 years ago...
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>>561677758
Time to relearn the game.
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>>561677827
It's not like I've ever learned it, I played the most in 2014 but even then it was just about 140 matches. But yeah, yesterday I've learned about stacking camps, kinda disappointing how you get less gold if you stack it yourself because no support in my skill bracket is going to do it.
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>>561678039
You get the full gold, if you stack and take it yourself.
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>>561678130
Is this outdated?
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>>561677314
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>>561678304
Ah, the liquipedia one is pretty much identical except it doesn't have the highlighted part. Quite confusing desu.
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>>561678304
No, that still happens, you just get both, if you did both.

Aether Lens still affects Earth Spirit's Boulder Smash radius. It didn't even matter this game.
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A bit fucking unfair that XG have to play two bo3s today. Why is the other pair from the LB Quarterfinals not playing then?
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>>561675841
nigga how old are you
do you not exercise?
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>>561678829
i play dota
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>>561678304
that is phrased in a really retarded way making it sound like you lose part of the normal gold you would get
what happens is if player 1 stacks a camp and player 2 clears the camp player 1 gets extra gold on top of the camp bounty
if player 1 stacks a camp and clears it himself he does not get the extra gold but he gets the full gold from the camp itself
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>>561679072
this game causes blood pressure issues, that's for sure
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>>561679168
That makes a lot more sense, thanks bwo.
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>>561678747
anti chinese bias
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Aui about to win this game no handed
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>>561678304
t. Senior Prompt Engineer
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>>561679821
I don't know what to believe anymore... I can't even rely on the wiki... both of them...
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>>561680007
uhh, boot up the game and test it out bro?
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birminghambros what the fuck
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Bongs are a fucking disgrace
No one can take a single fucking beer?
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this wouldve never happened in mother russia
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>>561678747
This format has been around for a long time and still haven't been revised yet, so I guess the teams don't really think it's something they worry about.
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>>561680304
We're 6 hours and 12 beers in
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SCORE SAOME FACKIN GOALS AUI
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can someone explain why Lone Druid went up 3.15% winrate from literally just "Attack projectile speed increased from 900 to 1125"???
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the oil money fake team who paid fake pajeet fans at ewc is going home and that's okay
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>>561681521
didn't lose as much as other champs
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>>561657407
?????
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>>561681521
He didn't have any facets to lose
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>my pos 4 picks wk, goes supp
>my pos 3 picks grimstroke, goes supp
>my pos 5 refuses to lane against the solo necro 3 while their boutny roams
>their pos 3 secures free farm while i share xp with my brain dead supp who has 3!!!! charges of his knife at llv 1
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auibros...
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dream team
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>>561683296
You are the only constant thougheverbeit
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>>561683979
im 100% quitting this game ranked is fucking pointless
at least unranked party queue with at least 2 friends is somewhat fun but it can still be ruined if you have to lane with some random autistic 2 digit mmr nigger even though you have 3 immortal people queuing
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>>561684117
>I can't 1v2 against 3ks in lane
lmao. which mmr abuse did you use? maybe a paid boost?
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>>561684323
? what post are you even replying to
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The wiki isn't a reliable source because the game itself isn't a reliable source.
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fatoro and shartme again, who's gonna be more gassed?
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yeah im fuckign done
heres my mid
he lost his mid tower at 5 min
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ur game is dead dotards
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>>561687005
yet still alive enough to make you seethe
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>>561685974
botted nigger acc
somehow im in shadowpool i g
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>>561687321
i dont know how you could possibnly win with this mid
valve?????????????????????
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>>561687414
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>scroll through the last 3 threads since patch
>nobody says anything useful
You guys are useless.
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>facets removed
bnld schizo lost
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>>561687495
im getting pissed just watching this fucking replay
uninstalling this dogshit my psyche cant handle this
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>>561687809
Where is he? Did we get an outro or did he quietly disappear.
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>>561687857
calm down lil bro
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>>561687857
dotards and babyrage, how new
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>>561688083
8746393254
here watch the mid lane weaver and tell me what mmr you think this is
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>>561687321
it's just an average dotard
your fellow, your equal
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>>561688187
your the only constant lil bro
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video games are dying, i mean like real ones. people just want to play kid games nowadays and turn their brain off
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>lil baby rager when theresx a 44% chance of having a feeder in xer team (4/9 because your allegedly not a faggot feeder youreself)
waaawaaaawaaa i heckin hate doto my babyfaggot psyche cant haaaandle this
>lil baby rager when theres a 55% chance of having a feeder in xe enemie team (the other 5/9 potential feeding players)
hahahah lololol skill issue lololol look brehs im zooooo guuud i stomped this lil nigga hahaha lolololo
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kill yourself spektrus you worthless nigger
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chheck out for the constant lil bro and spektrus aint it
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trvked raw with no survivors
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even the french 1k shitter gave up, spektrus is still going at it day in day out lmao. poor guy
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The alchemist aghs tech is OP why isn't Xtreme drafting that
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I was ready to make a post calling icefraud soulless for not extending the song on mars's arena with the aghs upgrade, but no, they actuallly extended the song
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why spirit pick alch? hero fucking sucks.
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>>561688221
artist?
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How to become cold blooded when playing this game? I mean when theres a big teamfight my brain sharts and I press all my items and use skills and such, I have little to no skill when it comes to holding onto bkb or ult and stuff like that
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>>561692236
maybe play overthrow, i heard that helps
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>>561692236
you just get a feel for it, the more you think the worse you do
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>>561692363
or im probably misremember which custom game is which, but there was some that had some team fight shit
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>>561692558
Yeah exactly I would need a teamfight simulator or something like that to learn to keep my cool even when theres a lot of stuff popping off on the screen
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>>561692779
i cant check right now, but there's a few ones. there's one which you train timing dodges for some spells for example, maybe that's not so useful by itself, but perhaps it could help.
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the sound on gorgcs stream is so bad
would've been more watchable if he was just at home
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why is alch good now?
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>>561694776
Invest in your teammate
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>>561694776
The giving aghs to teammate strat was always good but people who did it usually did it as alch pos4 to grief instead of just going pos1 and acting like a normal afk carry pos1 except you give aghs to your team
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is this a good primal build?
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>finish week
>open up dota
>oh patch log
>first line
>facets removed
Incredibly gay already.
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>>561695072
it's metagolem with some extra parts so yeah pretty good. could use another aura over bloodstone
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I think Ame might actually retire if he fails to win TI in China.
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>>561695637
They need a drafter. By that I mean someone that isn't xiao8 and won't let magnus through or pick jugg.
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MY STREAK! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOO!
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Been on a 3 winstreak in herald just by picking all roles and picking the most braindead hero for the position. Just has to be in the afternoon or so I think.
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spirit fp sniper and theyre gonna build the new item on him and own XG with it
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>>561697119
new item is bait though
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>>561697119
the snake one? it can't proc headshots
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>clockwerk nerfed again
why
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>>561697541
eat chainmails (worst way to waste gold)
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Why is Sven's menu portrait all blue and then his in-game portrait is bathed completely in red?
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>>561698157
didnt know it was a british org
uk sucks at all esports
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>>561698157
>moonmierda
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Team Secret has an overwatch team? When tf did that happen? People still play that game>?
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in 15 years of dota2, the only content creator worth watching is zq.
insane when you think about it
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>>561699345
powerpoints
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(He) uploaded 1 hour ago
"I will now turn the subject to content creators"
obvious
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>>561698406
brits germans and scandinavians dominated esports before thirdies got good computers in the 2010s
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>>561699345
Pyrion Flax helped me out when I started playing dota. like 2013
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BOOM
Welcome to Pyrion Flax's guide to
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Why has powerpoints gotten so much attention here but other people who posted oc havent?
You think he was samefagging all along?
content is peak reddit btw and now loli pugna is reddit fodder, forever ruined
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Man yatoro has 3k gold more farm than ame wtf
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>>561699594
sweden mogs
2 ti, dominated cs for long time
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>>561699835
>You think he was samefagging all along?
Very very obviously
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British people cannot be funny.
its genetically impossible for them to be funny.
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>>561699840
bro ame lowest core, 1k lower than 2nd
what a fraud
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>>561699790
Cuckholding
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>>561699530
meh.. he is funny sometimes and i appreciate the grind, but it doesnt teach anything it is just memes
>>561699634
pflax was pretty funny, but it seems like his content was short lived and not as in depth.
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>>561699985
Pyrion is spiritually australian
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why is leshrac suddenly good?
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>>561699594
>germans and scandinavians
Sure
>brits
Not really
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>>561699835
I want loli to become mainstream.
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>>561700092
>short lived
he was around for like EIGHT YEARS
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>>561700125
So, British.
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Why are russian, SEA, middle eastern and south american teenagers playing dota but western teenagers have never even heard of the game?
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how the fuck is willow top dmg? i know it's only 20 minutes in but this is weird.
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>>561700413
>western teenagers
We grew up.

-source, (i'm almost 30)
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>>561700436
NEWCUTIE
*SMOOOCH*
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>>561700413
>South america
>not western
american poster
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>>561699345
What about our guy BSJ?
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Thanks for playing testing the new items Deadlock faggots
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>>561700413
its free to play and they are poor
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>>561700502
historically, the 'west' refers to 1st world countries, so western europe and north america

>>561700482
Yeah but why is there no generational rejuvenation in the west?

>>561700605
all the other games are free too though, like cs, lol, valorant and such
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>>561700605
League is also free to play. Runs better than anything Source 2.
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>>561699840
>>561700002
APOLOGIZE
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>>561700661
The west refers to the west, you fucking idiot.
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>>561700436
now balanced spectre with shit farm is 1st
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>>561700821
the west, western culture or even western civilization refers to europe and it's cultural extension in north america.
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>>561700674
Feels slow and floaty, maybe that's just the style of the game
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Where are the retards who said Phylactery was core on spectre
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/ourgirl/ is doing it
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>breaks spirit
kino
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I swear Xtreme does the thing where they always lose their first game then totally own on the second one every time I watch them
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>>561701101
it was kinda okay right after it got reworked, before it nerfed
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>>561698382
its that time of the month
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>>561699345
dota 2 power sissy clears everyone else
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Why do I get queued with at least 3 peruvians 24/7 no matter the time I play???
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Where's my femboy guide to dota 2??
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>>561701942
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh6_6pZ5idSaBJQ-5GCRhNA
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is spirit breaker balanced?
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>>561697119
>Guys I'm in a good position to start hitti-
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>>561702075
yeah, he falls off hard.
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>>561702121
he literally doesn't fall off at all
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>>561697119
When has sniper fp EVER been a good idea?
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>>561702334
he's better this patch so think they just went with it
but yeah, retarded
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why these dudes acting like chinks arent spec pickers
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>>561697027
Won another guide. This time with Spirit Breaker. Having the game decide the position for me and just picking a random hero I think will do well is so much more fun than tryharding one hero especially in herald.
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>>561702536
I can see it be viable if your mid is used to it like xm and your draft enables it
But your mid is larl and your only disruption was mars, ls willow aa all do nothing but watch you die
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>>561703105
you usually want to dominate mid at least. so yeah best as counterpick.
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Glad to see reddit upset with the facet removal, I feel vindicated.
Only retards with no life think this bloated ass game needed more forced complexity.
Let's hope they remove neutrals
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>>561700281
i know but his youtube videos about dota lasted for like a year. maybe 2
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>>561700524
he's decent. theres something about him i dont like, idk what exactly, but his type of content is good and if you like him thats ok
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>>561700413
>russian, SEA, middle eastern and south american
because westerners dont want to play with these
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>>561703770
They need to remove wisdom and passive increases so supports have less money and xp.
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>>561704838
but CS isnt region locked yet americans and europeans deal with it
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>>561704838
Explain League and Valorant then.
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>morph
'aight. GG xtreme, draft diff 2 games in a row
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>pango collapse
Why
Why would you EVER fp pango in 2026
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nerfing refresher reduced game length by a lot
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>mason streaming while esports on
lmao this nigga is dumb
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I like both drafts but am probably giving the edge to Xtreme's because it seems easier to play. I think Spirit is probably the better team though. I don't know how to evaluate drafts very well.
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do you steal beastmaster scepter with morph?
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>>561697541
actually he's buffed, new cogs are better than old. His aghs got massively buffed and he got a good lvl 10 talent now
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Spirit is done
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fuck sidelanes forever
i never wanna lane with someone ever again
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>>561706296
?????????
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>>561706540
4k down at 10min retard
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it's over
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>pick joke cores
>lose
Wow!
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Will the games stabilize for the finals? So far the post patch has had lots of huge stomps
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https://www.dota2.com/patches/7.41a
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>>561707313
rip spirit
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>>561707313
>naix already nerfed
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does linken's still work vs sk stun? i know it used to work a long time ago.
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>Pierce the Veil
>Base Damage Bonus rescaled from 75% to 70/85/100%
What a fucking joke. Like this hero wasnt already broken
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Already?
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what the fuck was that low iq supernova
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>>561708015
He was euthanizing
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because he needed to be bigger huh
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>>561706167
>news cogs are better than old
stopped there
you're a retard and bad
never voice your uninformed and incorrect opinion in public again
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>>561708245
Post your clockwork page
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>>561708607
>500 games of offlane clock
LOL what the fuck man
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Best mids this patch?
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>>561708680
>deflection
yikes
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>>561708686
TA
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xg just keeps feeding somehow
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>>561708928
of course, they picked veno
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NAGA PRIDE WORLD WIDE
>NAGA PRIDE WORLD WIDE
NAGA PRIDE WORLD WIDE
>NAGA PRIDE WORLD WIDE
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Drawfags?
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>harpoon void spirit
never seen this
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RIP Spektrus, had an aneurysm
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>Bkb AND Linkens on Morph
man that never feels good when you're forced to do that to survive
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uh yatoro is so fucking dogshit, how the fuck do you die there
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>it's a larl overplays and eats shit rerun
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>>561709114
And it's the last time you'll ever see it
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>>561709535
thank you flayed twins
thank you nyx
thank you clasz
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Starting to think Ame is on choke mode
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nice bkb fagtoro
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If you are going to play bitch made at 50 minutes, just start making the rapier
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>no morph buy
xg wins before he resses
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Dude the egg aghs is so GRIEF this shit never works
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>>561708245
>>561708607
I'm waiting
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>>561710629
it's actually pretty damn good vs 3 melee cores, but if you use it right next to them then it's still grief obviously
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i dont think yatoro has done anything entire game
he just dies, maybe he forgets to click bkb or something, dunno
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Yatoro got the DD despite the rune being under an XG ward WTFFF
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>>561710027
You fed first blood, though. :^)
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Xtreme is choking
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Someone with higher MMR than me explain the logic behind trying to jump the veno 1500 range from your team while he's right next to the pit and his cores when there's roar, crush and burrowstrike on the enemy team and all you got to defend yourself is a manta, you don't have bb, and no TP point anyway
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>>561711195
the positioning makes it look very retarded, he probably somehow thought team could come in and burst
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yatoro deals fucking zero damage
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what does void spirit do
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He watches a falcon draft of 3 strength cores with stuns faceroll his team
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>>561711548
I just had this question
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>>561711548
Normally he makes space and zones the supports
In this case the problem is the cores press bkb and kill everyone since as a spirit he's useless without a lead
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Hold on guys we need to wait 4 buybacks, then next neutral items, then next rosh, then...
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>>561711548
he voids
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>>561712025
6-slotted Morph is scary.
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gm potm thinks its a good 3
haet this game
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>this lion networth 70 minutes in
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>>561712147
Weak bait.

>>561712160
Waste of a Lion, honestly. He's the hardest scaling support in the game.
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>>561712160
How does that even happen?
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>>561712230
23cs with double digit deaths
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>>561712230
must be repeated buybacks
these days you get more gold passively
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>>561712305
Isn't greedy guaranteed now?
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>>561712147
Retards who are usually grandmaster one hero (often some bullshit like Visage, Np or Mirana/CM/Coomerbait) are usually DOGSHIT at the game it's fucking infuriating because they only spam their one dogshit hero
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HOW do you keep eating shit first on a spirit hero???
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ame is washe-
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>>561712207
this potm hasn't done anything & lost the lane
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>>561712761
Oh, well, that's their fault, not potm's. Were they going for caster or right-clicker potm?
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>>561704012
??? retardbro??
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Why'd they fped sniper?
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>>561707313
>Crude nerfs
nyooooooo

>>561708218
he's literally a baby
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>>561712871
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>keep using aghs supernova next to bm+slardar stacking attack speed items
b-bravo
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>>561713018
Ah, the ol' classic.
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MY SKELETON UPTIME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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they should just delete void spirit from the game desu
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>>561713385
he got nerfed in 7.41a btw
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jGET ME OUT
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>>561713040
Well your mid decided he was once again going to jump in the middle of the enemy 5 man with stuns up the wazoo without using his bkb and get 100-to-0, what are you supposed to do?
Why the FUCK would you come out of this north, break their smoke in vision, and only press astral step like it's even close to enough at 70 minutes?
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>>561713623
did they ever initiate with pangolier lol?
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>first pick sniper
>he goes threads, mageslayer, mjollnir
>dies 100-0 to a pos 4 spirit breaker

retard team
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>>561705826
looks like he ragequit early today since the stream is already over
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>>561665753
gimme SVG every game
i'm also a dry sarcastic asshole irl that people can't tell if i'm being sincere or not
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>>561708218
Does this sneakily increase the distance he covers with trample or increase the aoe of trample/charge?
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>>561713706
By the time he blinked in SK and slardard had both jumped the non BKB'd void and were beating his ass for lunch money. Literally SK and pango channelled ult when seeing this but one had a fat purple target in range and the other tried to disrupt but blinked where they were a second ago.
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heh
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one last ride. for her

https://vocaroo.com/1dJv1sA9wIVF
https://vocaroo.com/1dJv1sA9wIVF
https://vocaroo.com/1dJv1sA9wIVF
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We can't all be nisha on puck
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Every single Nu-Dota offlaner's dotabuff is exactly the same, Phase Boots, Soul Ring, Dagger, BKB, then every other item falls off a fucking cliff and neutral enchantments end up as multiple entries because nobody builds any other items on them even for fun.
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They ruined techies.
8,000 hours in this game since 2011.
I'm done now, thank you for freeing me, Valve.
If they ever fix my boy techies, I'll be back.
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>>561714993
lane is so poverty and by the time you catch up you can only afford the absolute core items that let you at least cast your spells before you get unceremoniously stepped on by the enemy heroes
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>>561714993
What you're saying is they shouldn't be allowed neutrals
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>>561715073
yeah but wasnt that like half a decade ago?
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>>561715074
?
offlane hasn't been poverty for like a fucking decade
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I think soul ring shouldn't exist and offlane heroes should just be able to cast more than 3 spells without going oom
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>>561715225
the lane itself is not poverty if your pos 4 isnt eating crayons but the role itself requires you to eat shit and die repeatedly
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>>561715225
>>561715314
i realize i specifically wrote lane in my original post lol yea u know how it is
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>>561715314
Well yea thats why you are a blink bkb buying melee hero
Who is in charge of starting shit in the game

Which is why games are fucking miserable if the mid is some farmer hero like sniper
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>>561715153
The update that changed Suicide and prox mines wasn't a nerf like the claims at the time said. The limit of 20 prox mines was awful despite them being twice as powerful. That update that made proximity mines the ult and removed remote mines was a good change. It made techies an active player in the game and let him push towers. I do miss the memes of remote mines, but until this patch techies was in a pretty good place.
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>>561715290
Soul ring has to exist because offlaners need a way to instantly clear the wave because if they don't they get every creep denied because (one of) the guy(s) they're laning against has triple their attack speed
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when did they add death losses to the scoreboard
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>>561715452
usually i play initiator type heroes on mid because i see my pos 3 (actually a pos 1 player) hovering some gay shit like wraith king, chaos knight or razor and i figure i just have to play his role for him that game

thank god my teammates are usually intelligent enough to understand what's going on and why i'm 3/11 (or they just forget im mid)
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>Evasion no longer diminishes when shared between Meepos and has full strength on each
Does Meepo even build evasion
Is this literally just because evasion is the "annoying" stat
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the meta looks boring asf
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I've seen Xtreme lose this exact game countless times before. Pick tempo, play it properly the first 20 mins and then forget about that and go into 2014 chinese dota mode where you don't dare look at the enemy.
Hell, they lost the the exact same game to Spirit the last time they played.
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>>561716109
I fucking hate that retards can grief either support role and then everyone will just fucking forget they were supposed to be a support hero by 20 minutes
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>>561716231
larl can only win games on invoker
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>>561716615
Larl has like a 30% rate of non stomp games where he isn't a liability
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not a single american pro player
but TONS of american "talent" ??
When will this cartel end
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I'm starting to hate playing any role that isn't pos 1
it doesn't matter what you do if you can't hit towers
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>>561718904
uh we used to have quinn
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>>561719601
Literally just sitting there watching these retards and powerless to do anything about it
You could LITERALLY 1v5 the entire enemy team but you couldn't win the game if you don't build attack speed because fortify exists
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if i'm on a 7 winstreak why is the game 90% sure i belong in herald?
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>>561721629
It isn't just about wins/losses it's about performance of the selected role and hero. It compares how you did compared to other people on the same hero and figures out your bracket based on that. Calibration is always off by usually a fullr ank. so if it has you in herald you'll be high crusader / low archon
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>>561722546
so i'm slightly below average...
just like at everything else...
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>>561721629
Because you smell bad
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>5 picks veno
>enemy team gets veno banned
*phew*
>5 then picks jakiro
it's all so tiresome
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>>561718904
sneyKING owns you
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>>561723980
>weirdo chink simp
nah nigga, that ain't it
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>>561724068
>it doesnt count
bow
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Mason was a real one rest in power
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korok
t_c
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sex with hoodwink
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I don't know if I should share this or not, but back in 2015 I ran into mason in a Buc-ee's gas station at like 2am in the morning. I was drunk, and had around 17 miller lites earlier and a massive chipotle burrito that was about to come out of my rear end along with the beer.

Anyways, I was like "yo mason, is that you?" and he laughed and said yeah. Anyways, I had to rush into the bathroom and for some reason he followed me in, I thought he just had to go too. The burrito and beer was about to come out and I rushed to the toilet just in time. It was a disgusting #2, all liquidy and sprayed everywhere.

As I started wiping my ass, I heard a knock on the bathroom stall and to my astonishment it was mason. He said "hey man, don't worry about wiping, I got you". I just said "um, okay" and then mason walked in and started cleaning my asshole with his tongue. Wow, he went to work hard. There were even a few bits of undigested corn caught in my ass hair that he gobbled down.
After he was done, he just said "peace" and walked on out. I wiped my ass one more time for good measure, and there wasn't even the slightest bit of brown. Mason vaccumed and steam cleaned every last spot with his mouth, I've never seen anything like that in my life before, ever.
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>>561716142
> 4 meepos hit you all at the same time
Divide their bash chance by 4 so it's still only one basher worth of bashing chance
> You hit 1 meepo at a time
Don't divide the evasion chance, so it's still one evasion talisman of evasion chance
You jsut hate Meepo, huh?
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>>561716276
I've seen that in every other game since the patch, it's insane
And it's always their fucking duo party member that starts shit too
"Why is our mid 2/9, why don't you do anything?"

Because your fucking Mirana butt buddy has spent the last 30 minutes jungling up nothing but a Crystalys, a Maelstrom and a Specialist's Array and I've spent the entire game desperately depushing from treelines or going to doomed fights while they roll around doing actual support shit.

Motherfuckers will seriously watch their lane gank mid three times before level 5 and have the gall to demand you "do something"

Such intensely braindead self-absorbed behavior.
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>letter patch shits on Techies even more for no fucking reason

Is this a joke? They really hate him being able to solo Torm don't they? That's it, isn't it, that's what this is about.
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>>561728632
their winrate was good so they got nerfed simple as
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>>561728632
>no fucking reason
lmao
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so why is it that you don't get to know who just griefed the fortification
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>>561649751
uhhh anons? haven't played in a while
did they remove FACETS? WHAT THE FUCK?
tldr on what happened?
some heroes are useless now, straight up
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>>561731996
JESUS anons
what the FUCK did they suddenly DO to the game?
all these items, reworks wtf
they're supposed to roll that shit out gradually
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It's a friday night

why are you posting here anon
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>>561732212
I haven't played since 2021 (map rework) and the game feels exactly the same to me lol
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>>561731996
what the fuck I do not like the new patch at all
they literally added all kinds of random shit and enshittened items by making them slightly expensive, like greaves, arcanes, BM, etc
regen rings are now back to secret shop
fucking cloak is... what, 900 now?
halberd change is CRIMINAL, THEY MADE IT AN AGI ITEM WITH EVASION WTF
NOW I WILL EAT SHIT WITH THE CARRY WHEN THEY BUILD BUTTERFLY
DECREASED MANA AMP FOR KAYA AND SHIT
LOTUS ORB CANNOT BE DISASSEMBLED
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS PATCH - THEY LITERALLY MADE EVERYTHING WORSE
YET THEY BUFF MAGE SLAYER
MKB NOW 5000
THEY NERFED PIPE AND MADE IT EXPENSIVE
shiva is easier to make and cheaper - actually pretty happy about this one
NEVERMIND
NO SPELL DAMAGE BONUS
OH FUCK THEY REMOVED HEALTH REDUCTION ON SHIVA
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE NIGGERS DOING
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>>561733150
calm down my friend
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THEY REMOVED JUGG'S BLADE FURY SHARD UPGRADE WTF IT WASN'T OP, BUT IT WAS NICE
LITERALLY WORTHLESS NOW
>>561733606
bro I cannot
they literally made EVERYTHING worse
is everyone shitting on the patch?
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>>561733150
all this shit is smoke and mirrors man you still just shoov teamfight rosh and hg
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>>561729480
Why did they shoot TA dead when she wasn't even good before .41 then
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Any guides on pathing? I feel like Dota character guides don't really teach how you do that unlike for jungler guides in League of Legends. I mostly play Razor but I can basically play any hero that isn't more difficult than Naga Siren.
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here's the new buffed heroes after 7.41a. but it's comparing vs 7.40
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>>561735107
Pretty much useless. There's no world where untouched heroes get +5% WR because one item which everyone would pick up if they could got -4% MR or some shit.
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Since Marci is mute, she should be unable to cast any spell.
And silence should have no effect on her.
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>>561735278
im guessing it's very low sample size
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>>561734936
I find it really strange that there's not more guidance on that too desu
It's a little more complex though, because you're dealing with the spawn clock and your DPS/AOE can vary so widely throughout the game/per character. You've just kind of got to figure out how fast you can clear and pick out what camps to do. You also want to try to time getting the creep wave and maybe being able to stack the largest camp as you get to it.

So sometimes it might look like "farm the wave at safe T1 then take both the inner camps and get the next wave"
And sometimes you're getting pushed in or it's not safe so you take the outer two camps.
Or if you're doing more jungling you try to get the T2 mid camps, maybe the croakers and medium camp- Depending on your damage and movement skills you can do more or less, though. Carries like AM or Faceless do well because they can blink between camps to farm faster.
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dont you just love when theres 5 niggers sitting on you mid constantly like fucking get a life
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I think they made Primal Beast start the game smaller than he was before
I got to 5000 health and I certainly didn't notice any particular largeness
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>>561736821
WHOOPSIE STILL LOST THE GAME CUZ MY LC FREE FARM HAS 3 DUELS IN 50 MIN
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>>561738995
>LC
>Farming
theres your first problem.
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nyx needs that insta kill creep mind flare back
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I discovered the secret of getting out of herald. It isn't one tricking a meta pick in a core role but rather just select all roles and just pick someone you vaguely know how to play and does decently into the enemy team.

Won't be playing this weekend but I feel pretty confident for next week.
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Nyes lc should start the game at level 6, bully the duo out of lane without casting any spells, have an 8 minute blink dagger and proceed to start winning 1v2 duels with no other items or she's worthless
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Make jungling viable again to buff heroes like LC.
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I counted off the ult timing in my head.
Legion Commander used her ult close to 5 times in one minute.
She was getting her shit pushed in and started cheating, shamefur dispray.
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Is 5k respectable?
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>>561740197
I just checked his account, his profile picture is just his actual face and he has 8 pages of comments calling him trash.
No wonder he cheats keke
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>>561740456
4.4k more than me. You're objectively better than most of the playerbase.
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>>561740197
thoughts on peru?
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>>561740456
That's almost immortal in NA
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>>561740602
I like the ENA series.
That's all I know about Peru.
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>>561735790
I'm thinking about playing Faceless Void just to get better at these farm timings. It's not necessarily farming speed I am bad at but just pacing myself around camps so I'm accumulating solid gold every time I move.
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>>561741560
Play AM if you want to do that since blink is a better spell.
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>>561741560
Make sure you treadswitch to INT before -every- blink and back to AGI while farming
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>>561719601
But doesn't maining the small pool of independent carries get boring?
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>>561732212
>gradually
First time?
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>Friend plays with me, gets to be around 11pm... "yeah man it's late I g2g"
>See same friend playing with his other buddy and its 2am

damn...
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>>561743156
Tell him it's okay but to just say it.
Clear communication > *
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>>561742273
AM doesn't look as cool and seems more of a counterpick but I do like blinks.
>>561742397
That's another thing I have to practice. Almost all of my carry picks use power treads and I can barely use it.
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>>561743307
I'm just gonna slowly distance myself, things like this have happened to me before and it's obvious I'm just a side friend or whatever.
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>>561743156
Lol damn you feel like a side bitch better hit the play button and solo queue
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>my rank ups are a statistical inevitability
>but I have to be up two, down two for a dozen games for some reason
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>>561744657
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Not sure how Kez is
Hoodwink seems kinda fucked
ES is unlikely affected
How have the latter all fared with the removal of facets?
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>>561716142
Butterfly is an insane item on Meepo now if the enemy has two heavy right clickers.
Been doing Yasha -> Wraps -> Sange+Yasha and then you can man up on just about anything, and the move speed from wraps and yasha lets you skip blink.
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>Big Patch
>Remove content (facets)
>Add no new content
Bravo Valve
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>wake up
>spectre isn't permanently phased anymore
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I think I'm in some sort of shadowpool.
>enemy mid is always some smurf that obliterates my mid
>my mid or core have 10+ deaths in less than 30 min, they just keep tping in to die in a lane where they see 3+ enemies
>obligatory griefer every other game, just moves away from the team, buys out wards to feed them or destroys items
>20 min games where people just give up after dying twice on lane
>core not farming, supports not buying wards
I chained 12 losses since the patch dropped and only won 2 games after that. Went from ancient 2 to legend 4 in 3 days.
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My problem is not that I'm a dunning kruger crybaby, in fact I take my mistakes into account and work on getting better.

My real problem is being peer pressured into the offlane or pos5, then choking under the insurmountable chaos that unfolds. All because I wanted to be a good teammate and take the cuckold roles.

Then pings starts flying over the map aggressively, everyone is fighting in group chat. Enemy necropos has radiance at minute 12. Drow has manta and dragon lance at minute 14. Teammates drop like flies. I can't save them. It all goes to shit and I choke with them.
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when is patch
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>>561751965
>>561750641
Just play a broken hero you idiots. No need for mental gymnastics. The only way to climb is to abuse the system. Stop being a jack of all trades versatility grandmaster. Use 1-2 unfair heroes and refine your skills to perfection.
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>>561730750
this
I wish they just added the ally hero next to who fortified or scanned
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>>561750641
Yup I dropped behavior score to 9.4k after griefing a couple games in a row because I was bored and the next twenty or so games had a smurf invo/brood/tinker with or against me and teammates were much more afk than usual and unwilling to play for any objectives. Then my behavior score went up by 200 and I went back to normal games
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So what is the the jeet devs stopping from implementing a mmr gain/loss system based on performance and not on win/lose? If you absolutely crush your lane 2v3 / 2v4, you should NOT lose points because your carry has never seen dota 2 before.
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>>561759663
>winning the first 10 minutes of the game matters
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>>561759731
>how does [game] work
Brown hands typed this post
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>>561759805
if it matters then you would have won the game :)
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Havent played dota in 2 weeks. Too lethargic and depressed
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>>561759663
the fact that every single time a dev has tried it, it has resulted in things like
>retards playing selfishly for stats even more so than before, and being rewarded for it
>retards climbing the ranks at 40% winrate because they play for stats
>retards avoiding certain "low stats" roles like pos 3 or melee support, or playing those roles in a way that maximizes "performance" (selfishly)
>retards using the performance stats to boost accounts (see: the zeus thing)
if the goal of the game is to win, so the only metric that truly measures your ability to win is whether you win or not. so unless you turn this game into golf it's not going to work

most recent example of this is marvel rivals where they added performance based rank gains/losses and it worked by measuring your performance against the average performance on that hero, which means
>no one wants to fill anymore because you are better off playing your "main" which you are most likely to get good performance stats on
>no one plays tank anymore because your performance will literally be 0 if your team is bad
>people playing heroes primarily played by women and other handicapped retards tend to climb up way too high up because of how low the average performance stats for that hero are
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>>561759663
they already tried that people just spammed zeus
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>pipe crimson offlane isnt meta anymore
eeeeh welll the only thing I know how to do in this video game. its over
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>>561761162
>Being an unironic metagolem
Lack of flexibility leads into lost games you know
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>>561761443
but I have a great winrate by spamming the same foolproof shit like auraslave offlaners
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pick et
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Lol yeah Aurora is cooked that patch drop fucked them out
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>quizlet at a big ass tournament
what are they thinking
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>>561762897
jej this bit with owen glazing aurora
clearly made before the patch but looks terrible in hindsight
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Puppey not looking too good. Draft is too close to last name. Series going to 1-1.
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Are you tired of beast yet
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Dawnbreaker? More like Dumb Bitch who is always useless.
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>>561764081
I could never get tired of breast
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>10 mins in queue
>"your game is ready, projected match quality: great"
>this is it, finally time for dota
>"johnny sins 69" selects midlane immediately, randoms into hoodwink
>>>>"projected match quality: Great"
>lose in 22 mins
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>>561765291
why dont you play in role queue nigger
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The losing streak... it's coming soon...
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>>561765469
what for, it's the same shit
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>>561699345
Chi Long Qua
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Haven't played since 6.8x, I'm watching the esports right now because I'm bored out of my mind and the first thing I notice is visually there's this odd scaling, the map looks way smaller relative to heroes (or the opposite is going on). I remember when I played a lot the map looked bigger, the base too, there was also more trees in tree areas. Is it just my mind playing tricks or did they rescale the size of the map? It looks bizarre
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This game was another example of why Underlord will always be better than Dawn no matter what 3k MMR niggers in here have to say
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>>561766771
They changed the engine and it looks a lot worse but runs on potatoes.
Trees and treelines were changed when they remade the map for mk and also just rescaled like the rest.
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>>561766954
look at this for exemple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ckPQfRD7Y

The size of the stairs, highground, just the map overall makes the heroes look much smaller
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beastmaster has been relevant for his entire existence but he only gets buffed why is that
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>>561763943
POLOGIZE
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>>561763943
>Draft is too close to last name.
You mean the game they won?
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>play about 30 games
>still confused
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>>561767859
But are you having fun?
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>>561768271
I am desu
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TinkerGODS be FEASTING
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Invoker pos 1 is actually fkn insane now. So fucking broken in Divine bracket.
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>>561746572
kez had a good facet and a shit one
the good one is baked in and the increased invis time from the shit one is patched in
still feelsbadman that you don't have magic immunity during ult now
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>>561766206
i had a sick win streak a couple days ago
then ive had the most insufferable shit idiot griefing teammates this weekend
noone can convince me some forced 50% shit doesnt exist when you roll 2 uncalibrated idiots that ask what happened to lothars on as the other cores on your team and the enemy cores have 20%+ mvp/win ratios with thousands of games
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>>561742738
do you only find dota fun if you pick a radically different hero every game?
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>>561772148
>128 heroes
Do you go to a buffet just to eat pasta?
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>not banning 33s largo
When will they learn
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>>561776957
Tiny carry is the problem. He even threw kotl earlier to the dk which lead to 3 of yandex being wiped. They would've snowballed if they had an actual carry.
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>reinstall
>que unranked
>enemy team don't have profile pics, 0 games and have names like trjt6523
>2 people on my team also have 0 games and the other 2 that look human are russian
>abandon before the game goes through
what's the play here
5 minutes before I can try again
maybe ranked will work ?
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>Kyle
>muted
Since when is this whoremonger welcome again
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>swindlemelonzz is back bloated as fuck
wew
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>>561777214
Unranked is a dead mode, like 90% of matches are ranked.
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>>561777631
potbelly potruding very disrepectful
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>wait 10 minutes to find a game
>client shits itself and it says I can't connect
>wait 2 minutes to queue
>wait 10 minutes to find a game
>hero I wanted to play gets picked
>lose in 25 minutes
>wait 10 minutes to find a game
>people don't connect
How did this shit ever get popular
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>>561778178
>wait 8 minutes to queue
>X has been assessed with an abandon
like why am I here
Why am I not just playing a singleplayer game
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>>561761162
My offlane build this patch is
2 bracers
boots
ring of tarrasque
if my team doesn't want to fight and is farming, finish a heart
if they are, blink
the ring can be made into a pipe or heart depending on the situation
then bkb
anything after that is luxury

consistently great for survivability and farming jungle if your lane sucked
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>>561778178
>i only have fun if i win
it got popular because we arent special snowflakes like you
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>>561778958
hey man I didn't know you were a cuckold, that's cool that you're proud of it. i'm sure you have a lot of fun alt tabbing and jerking to bbc after being clicked by an ursa 8 levels above you
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>>561779239
you must have me mistaken for someone who plays as poorly as you do
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>>561750641
Had a try today to see if it would be any different
>my pos 4 keeps disconnecting every 20 seconds, then afks in base, never reaches the point where we can abandon
>36 min + 10 min of pauses later he finally fully abandons due to timer
>leave the game
12k behavior, 7.5k comm score
I'm 100% convinced I'm in some godforsaken pool
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>>561777182
>Tiny carry
Didn't they remove the shard that lets you keep the tree for cleave? Tiny pos1 was already dead but this definitely killed him
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>>561778943
>rush heart of tarrasque on any hero
shut the fuck up retard. stop misleading people
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Rate my last game's carry
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Yandex mentally done lol
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>>561782115
skyrim/10
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I got money riding on Xtreme on an upset
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>>561769236
lmao
just wait for the 18 months of buffs so he can be relevant again. and then reworked again
INEVITABLE
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>33 is gonna jew out another aegis
How does he do it?
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>>561782115
did you make a wish?
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>>561782472
tundra were winning around the same time last year and they crashed out at TI
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>40 minute break
this is gay
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>q after patch
>get normal teammates
>lose the first 1, but the people were alright, no one actively griefing, enemy was just better
>win 2 in a row
>game client out of date
>only getting bought accounts on supports now
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>>561770528
I'm convinced too. I'm also playing in the weekend.

That being said I still won 2/3 of the games with these monkeys. It's doable you just got to remember that it's not worth it to waste your breath on your subhuman teammates and to just focus on winning the game.
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I used to like South America until I played Dota.
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>>561777635
turbo is legit gaming
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Just lost in our stack and now my dota bully wants to coach me.
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thinking of that mirana
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>>561777635
false
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I want to fuck that Marci
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SEXO
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I want to violently suck on the toes of all these cute autistic cosplayers and dump a fat creampie in their pussies
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>>561788659
hot
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>>561788659
The feet are stupid and reminded me of clown shoes
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>>561788554
AHHHHHHHHHH
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who won? is that revealed later?
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>>561788554
Hey she did this one already
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>>561788659
Super sentai villain lookin ass
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why isnt leshrac allowed to be good for one patch?
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Where do you get a cute gf who likes dota cosplays? Seems like a lot of them are russian
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If they let Edict damage buildings without a facet again why won't they let base Eye of the Storm damage buildings too
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when did the inhouses move off /d2g/ and into discord
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>>561789183
they're onlyfans whores
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>>561789415
around june of last year if not after because one year ago they were still sending invites on the in game channel
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>>561788996
I cackled like a hyena when I saw Doom peeked his head up above the 50% winrate mark for the first time in years and immediately got 1/3 of his innate removed (and -1 armor to boot)
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>>561789829
I got to enjoy Doom finally being good for a whopping 2 days.
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>>561788901
the Luna was also a repeated cosplay and they mentioned one that was originally from 2019
maybe ESL paid last minute to attend to these ones due to poor participation
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>>561790224
There are some heroes Icefrog just hates. Maybe because no matter how hard he stomps Doom into the shit pros will keep picking him.
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Generally I think they should let more hero abilities damage buildings for faster games and not locked behind a shard/aghs like Viper's orb or Eye of the Storm. This is having no buyback against Luna is such a game ending mistake she can just fuck up HG with her glaives (in a way that Dusa's splitshot or Gyro's flak cannon cannot for some reason). Generally they should make more spells impact buildings
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>>561790725
i think league of retards or deadlock might be more to your liking where towers evaporate in 2 seconds if you take your eyes off them
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>>561791238
but dota was like this too until many countermeasures were taken to make pushing as hard as possible
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>>561789495
they look so young and innocent, or maybe im just gettin' old. sad!
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>>561759663
>nooo i went 5-0 as the lane dominator hero then failed to turn that into anything and now i lost how could this happen to me
every bracket is filled with animals like you playing for the first 10 minutes of the game and then turning into a bot
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Hello, today I was playing Sven, the Rogue Knight. I was laning alone against Alleria, the Windrunner and Krobelus, the Death Prophet. First of all I disagreed with being solo against those heroes in the first place but whatever. Anyway, I was having some serious issues with Krobelus, the Death Prophet using her Carrion Swarm ability which sends a swarm of bats to damage her enemies dealing 100/175/250/300 damage with a radius of 110-300 to harass me, as well as Alleria, the Windrunner using her Power Shot ability which causes her to charge a bow shot which deals increasing amounts of damage (120/200/280/360 maximum) depending on how long she charges it and the amount of units it passes through. With all the harass, I could never enter the lane and ran out of consumables very quickly (I am referring to Ancient Tangos of Essifation, and Healing Salves). What can I do about this?
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>pints in the birmingham arena cost 18euro
holy paypigs
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>>561791567
soak xp farm the side camps
dont pick sven
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>>561791567
jungl
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>>561791541
>Slark on my team goes 5-0 in lane
>Buys midas and mage slayer first
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>>561791541
sounds like someone got blasted in lane and then later carried by the rest of his team
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>>561791728
It's actually how insane they made beer at events, literally everywhere. A beer at a ballgame is like 20 bucks now. Goycattle still pay for it.
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>>561792137
I think either slacks or gorgc mentioned speaking to some guys there and some of them said they pounded 5-6 pints during a day's worth of games so that's upwards of a 100 euro a day on fucking beers what the fuck man
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>>561792362
>>561792137
do niggas not pregame anymore?
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>>561791567
So strange to see this pasta resurface after all these years. Feels like the dementia is setting in.
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>>561792563
I found it on an old hard drive from like 2013 that was sitting in a box in my basement.
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>>561792563
you can tell it's old by the spell numbers
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>>561792362
I guess they have money to blow. Even so, idk why they'd waste it on something that disgustingly overpriced.

>>561792501
Maybe they have to drive a car, idk. Used to down shots myself before going to any place that served booze so you don't pay for overpriced drinks
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how did spirit lose to xg
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GG
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this game is fucking over in my screen
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Parivision makes every team looks horrible since the patch
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xg have no catch and they lost lanes
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>>561792835
Silly AI, you weren't even alive back when those were a thing!

>>561792986
Kept jumping on 1 and then failing to bail out when the rest of the team turned, from there it was a slow bleed out
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Lol parivision better thank valve for saving them
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>>561794245
yeah they just barely made it through groups going 6-8 and now they're suddenly owning
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7.41 kinda killed my urge to play Dota. When is the last time we had a No Fun Allowed patch?
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>>561792986
First picked sniper
Picked mid void and offline pango
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>>561792986
They don't have their all time great support or coach anymore
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>>561794414
That team was about to implode goes to show sometimes all you need is a patch
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chink shit
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>>561794918
miposhka probably added a lot because he was the team captain also
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So shiva is shit now? What do I build as an offlane guy now against lifesteal and healing?
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>>561795451
it's still good, it just isn't good vs healing shit anymore
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>>561794484
7.40
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>>561795421
I genuinely wondered if they were floundering like drunk retards on and getting out initiated and jumped like noobs because miphoshka's vision game was so crucial when larl and collapse kept missing the mark so xg just jumped and killed them back to back to elimination
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p god
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>>561794484
7.41 seems kind of fun. I also hated facets except for exactly Naga Siren.
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Fygod picking rubick
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>>561796120
More like the winning team picking rubick
Suddenly he's winning every game and picked after 7.41
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So there's just not a good mid hero right now huh. Except QoP. Le xD.
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Also I don't understand this patch. They took away the facet that allowed ember to chain around remnants and gave him some sleight damage and he has +10% winrate. I don't even see what items suit him that changed.
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The bug facet on weaver autist killed himself and that's okay
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weaver innate is so convoluted for a small dmg boost
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What's this odd spectral thing Fy has on all his heroes?
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>>561794484
After further thought, I consider the removal of Plague Carrier (in all but name) to be the start of no fun allowed.
THIS SHIT WAS SO FUCKING FUN
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>>561797264
bugged cosmetic that cost alot
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xg looking old
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Pari does the same macro play every game where they invade the enemy jungle and just snowball as 5 from there and it works every time
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lich is a good hero
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>>561796336
Kids love roblox
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>>561796336
his ulti gives reduced cooldowns on the stolen skills and fadebolt now reduces physical and magic damage
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Good rubick players like Fy and 9class are so awesome to watch
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Ame is buying the hydra item he's about to cook guys
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pango deals so much damage
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pango forever a meta hero
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did they change specialist array not to proc storm's overload?
>>561749091
meepo radiance
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nudota heroes are just fundamentally unbalanced which is why there's at least 1 or 2 of them in any given pro game as soon as theyre added into captains mode
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clockwerks new cogs are so fucking bad lmao
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pari threw this game away
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>>561795572
is the new thing with the stacks good? the wraps? been building it for tanky guys, seems good, but it doesn't recover when you're not fighitng, so... kinda more of a value item, right? it helps you once a fight, but you do not recover stacks in the fight
360 shield is nothing to scoff at, though
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pari so dogshit at teamfighting
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>>561800502
>New
Theyre just old cogs with a antigrief feature
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Ame going mode PSG LGD
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>>561800847
bm sold this game away
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>>561800840
yes, good first item on like offlane, tons of effective hp
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>>561796969
yaay
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The classic Xtreme lose the first game strat
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>>561749674
Bro you don't get it its le big patch xDD
(only like 20% of the patch is new content)
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This BM snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
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>ember chains unit count 2
>cant chain around remnant
He's so dogshit now. Literally every mid hero except QoP is so bad.
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>>561800861
>antigrief feature
take meds schizo
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>>561802037
gimme some of that zaza ur smoking
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>>561802203
They literally canned every mid hero.
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>>561802379
>>561802379
>ember 58% wr mid 8K mmr+
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>>561802651
Totally real stats, he has almost no utility now compared to before but I guess 20 damage on sleight bumped him up by 10%.
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I emailed Gabe with a very important Dota question. Will follow up if he responds.
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>>561796080
Naga is unusually viable as a carry right now. Enjoy her for as long as it lasts.
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>every storm hero is great
>lesh is great
>this retard tranny crying about how every mid hero is shit
just shut the fuck up and pick Str heroes then you faggot pussy
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>>561803534
>spirit heroes bar ember at 50%
>storm 47%
>ember somehow sitting at 56% despite being ten times weaker and Huskar and MK being strong
>Leshrac nerf dropping hard and they continue shitting on his edict
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Look at all these nerd cucks downing their 18euro goyjuice as soon as the camera pans on them
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AMEGOD on morph WTF
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satanic's plays naga aggressive
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>>561789202
>why won't they let broken hero to be even more broken
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>>561802085
I didn't bother quantifying it, but that is what I was thinking while reading through the patch.
>Wow this is a big one
>Holy shit they removed facets
>New innate abilities... oh actually most of these were already there or were one of the facets with reworked scaling
>A few new items
>...oh is that it?
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enemies doesn't see the weaver string right?
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how do I convince my gf to give Dota 2 a shot? I think she'd really enjoy bullying thirdies and being racist and calling out subhumans, but the game has such a steep learning curve.
What, am I supposed to tell her, "just give the game a shot, you're going to lose every match to smurfs for the first hundred hours of the game, but after that, you get calibrated in ranked and can play with same skill players"
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>>561804854
They do which is why it's bad
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>>561805303
just play some coop game where you dont get angry at each other
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>>561805303
Is starting out with a few bot matches not a common practice anymore?
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willoe is a grief pick
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>>561805332
that sounds really bad. makes it much easier to instantly keep track where he is.
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water nigger
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So does Xtreme willingly throws the first game in every series they have or do they legitimately get outdrafted and outplayed then wake up
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>>561805734
322 oddsmaxxing
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Now XG is doing the same play as Pari where they invade the enemy jungle and just camp there
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>>561805789
dont even need to go there whole pv draft is a do nothing comp
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>jump into epi and die
epic
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what naga do
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>Tier 1 availability changed from 5:00 to 0:00
I want to play Alchemist and autistically farm the jungle from minute 1, but I understand that this is a horrifically bad idea without the team agreeing to it beforehand (the pick phase not being a long enough time to explain this to randoms), and my homies haven't been online in days :(
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>>561806937
farms the whole map, then nothing
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it feels like pari are just reacting to xg
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>>561807070
that's a report
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oh my god
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parivision is finished
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Ame doubters in fucking shambles. Easiest fucking bet of my life
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I'm getting pos 4s fucking off to go jungle from match start every other game now
This patch is incredibly gay
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absolutely fucking destroyed
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omg its hydra
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ass beating
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>>561807386
What champ? Lycan got buffed, can he jungle at 1 now?
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Ame showing the CIS carries who's boss
tomorrow he's coming for Watson and Pure
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>>561807782
Z will stomp him
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just ban sk and xg cant win
it's what gonna happen tomorrow
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holy 322
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poopyvision
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>>561807386
>I'm getting pos 4s fucking off to go jungle from match start
They put a small camp at the medium one in the offlane now, so some assholes go for it. Not a terrible idea to clear it was a 4 if you have the ability to do so and also stack the large camp along the way.
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>>561808095
>betting org and xiao8 team 322 series
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>>561808269
lolcow hands typed this
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FY GOD
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Lot of chinese people in Birmingham
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>>561658736
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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dotabros why LD skyrocketed in WR?
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>>561808510
don't get cocky zhang you barely won a series or 2 down in losers
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Please Ame. Don't be a fucking dickhead. Let Ari win in front of his home crowd.
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>>561808345
>s4 posting
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>>561808609
did he have a bad popular facet? some heroes winrate increased because people can't pick shit facet anymore.
also a lot of heroes got nerfed which is kind of an indirect buff.
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>>561808925
that was ti right? iirc: they were by far the best team coming into ti, own in groups, then that's them coming into the first upper bracket game and get 0-2d
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I think they're loving this patch right now.
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>>561809191
I think it was from DAC 2015, their first big LAN with the "superstar" lineup. Could be wrong though.
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>>561805406
When I started playing League when I was like 12 my brother told me to queue a few dozen matches so I don't ruin other people's games. He was right, and when I queued my first game I had 0 deaths and 30 kills or something.
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>>561809374
it was ti
i just remember it because they were the favorites and it was pretty embarrassing
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>>561808925
What happened to secret?
No really.
What did president do wrong?
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>>561808973
he literally had no facet
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>>561809956
Those were the days
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>>561810674
huh, he had 3 facets at some point.
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small map doko
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This has got to be on purpose right
Just throw the first game then go beast mode
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This patch is a nothingburger
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>>561811845
fixing odds
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Wife on a trip to Cancun and keeps leaving me on read when I send a text, this is great, I get to play dota all day and relax.
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>I get to play dota all day and relax
>I get to play dota all day
>and relax
This is how you know everything that guy said is full of shit.
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I swear as I grow older the rage stirring inside of me while I play this game just grows and grows, sometimes I feel like I'm on the verge of punching through my monitor. When I was a teenager and a young man I didn't give a shit, but these days I have to remove my headphones and hit myself on the side of the head or pinch my arm sometimes, it's just too much
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>>561808414
seexoooo
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Poster above me is gay and loves cock.
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>Venomancer 7.41 impression after reading patch notes but before playing a match:
Damn, poison sting got nerfed hard, that blows
>Venomancer 7.41 impression after playing a match:
holy shit I gotta spam this dude before they nerf him, how does this nigga not have an 80% win rate?
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>>561814006
wrong
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>>561813624
Unranked EU Dota is actually relaxing though and a perfect way to unwind as a cuckold
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>>561814357
veno sucks
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i swear some games you just cant win
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WATCH OUT, MORTALS
ZEUS IS GAYYYYYYYY
REACH FOR THE COCK
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>>561820230
did he do the swan thing to fuck guys as well?
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>mid/carry choose not to buy bkb's
>we just fucking auto lose

bet they think i'm the bad guy for dropping items
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which hero has the biggest cock?
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>>561825835
Enchantress
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>>561825835
clockwerk 100%
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I hate when my mid wins his lane so hard
and then goes and feeds like a retard

Now every single one of his deaths is 600+ gold + lots of XP...
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>>561814449
Sucks that Sorapoi quit drawing and found a real profession...
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>>561828929
What profession
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>>561828929
He kinda did stop posting altogether, didn't he.
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>>561813958
>support ditches me in lane
>enigma comes out of the trees and np teleports onto me and kills me 3 times
>mid pick sniper spamming 'gg pos1 feeding'
of course i euthanised
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>windranger basically removed from the game

who the fuck at valve got so assblasted in a pub that they nerfed her this fucking hard, jesus christ
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are decent mids in the 3k bracket normal
Or are they an endless stream of smurfs boosting accounts
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>pick melee cores
>lose
Why can't they understand ranged is always superior
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finally got my ultrawide monitor, I can play dotes and wc3 again as I planned
so I installed wc3 and reforged is still a piece of shit, you literally can't play with the new graphics because you keep getting a stupid microstutter every minute, you have to play with the old graphics
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>>561834761
Posts that are begging for big offlaner cock
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>>561799989
They all get the visual aura effect but only Meepo prime's radiance burns nearby enemies.
Cloak of Flames however does work on every Meepo
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This is insane, I stopped drinking two weeks ago and increased my mmr by 600. I'd get drunk every day for years, and now I am lightning sharp and am probably the best player on this board. I see things happening before they even get set in motion and outplay literally everyone. You guys will be watching me on twitch in a few months when im pro
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>>561794484
All patches in the Last 4 years.
Innate/facet patch got me hyped cus the idea of viability of any hero can play any role.
Ofcourse Valve fumbled
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>>561836025
i was hoping greedy gave 3-5x 75gpm on meepo, i swear it used to do that for lone druid and his bear on greedy, and greedy was good to take on 7.4 meepo because only one copped the damage reduction
its kinda cool using wraps on every meepo but without boots of travel having independant cooldowns it still feels like a massive nerf to being able to move around the huge map
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>>561837903
New Meepo is stronger in just about everything except the xp change. With Sange Yasha + Wraps you become such a stupid tank that doesn't even need blink dagger with how fast you move.
The xp change really sucks though because it's usually better to farm mid and camps as Meepo instead of ganking pre 10, and now it just feels even more pointless to gank.
Pretty sure Meepo will get a nerf next patch, not sure how hard it will hit him though.
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I swear to God I'm done with this dogshit game. Queue up, pick my main, and instantly get 4 retards who don't know how to last hit. Mid feeds courier at 3 minutes, support steals my farm, offlane is perma-TPing to defend T1s. I try to solo carry and these animals start flaming ME in all chat. Rage, break items, call them inbred monkeys. GG, -28 MMR. Queue again like a fucking masochist. This game is ruining my life.
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>>561840751
this game is not done with you
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new patch when
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>>561843540
lol whenever they took away a whole patch
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>>561843540
You want more shit removed?
I do too.

I love how valve patches stop giving a shit about the game's own systems and just do some balance scrambling every now and then

a completely abandoned game.
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>>561834761
>pick ranged
>get annihilated by hyperfixated apes whose only muscle reflex is "if it shoots I must devour it"
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>>561843842
the fact valve got a pass for that shit is crazy these niggas really removed facets without anyone saying anything
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>>561844221
it made reddit midwits upset
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>>561844221
I meant other shit in the game not related to the gameplay.
Valve just doesn't update or do anything with all that. They just do some rebalancing and call it an update.
or add stupid shit like facets then remove it.
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an unpleasant day to wk 3 pickers
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>>561825835
TA
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>>561845475
When has WK every worked out in any position? It has an obscene 56.7% winrate on Dotabuff, but I have never dealt with a WK that outskilled anyone. His team is just stomping, and yours are eating shit.
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>>561846313
a carry that isn't feeding is already 1/4 of the game solved
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>climbing from sub 1k to 2.2k
Wonder where I'll plateau.
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Why even write the endmin in the rossie story when there's absolute zero reasons to do so?
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>nigger savage teammates manage to turn a 30-10 game into a loss because nobody knows how to counter Dark Willow
I hate Turbo so much
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>>561847253
Have you considered playing Boomer Dota instead of Zoomer ADHD Attention Span Dota
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>>561847253
Mireska!
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>>561847339
I have yes.
But I'm still grinding my score back up.
It's going as slow as old people fuck.
>>561847367
I AM GOING TO RAPE YOU!
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>>561847253
Nice 38% winrate, Herald 2.
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>>561847414
Nuh-uh!
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>>561847414
Oh wait, it's you. How have you been, dumb asshole?
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>>561847424
I'm unranked dawg.
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>>561847505
You have hidden MMR, don't worry. Get the fuck out of Turbo, if you want your behaviour score to go up. And keep your gob shut.
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>>561847490
Finally a CS2 skin I'll pay for
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>>561847490
Yuh-huh!
>>561847493
Shitty.
Every time I think about playing Dota I think about Axe.
But every time I play Axe it goes horribly.
I just wanna be the funny snowball tank man.
>>561847567
My thought process was that if I get 300 score every 15 games, ideally I can grind out a bunch of Turbo games in 15-20 minutes.
And get half way to a score increase in an hour.
But then the games go for 30-40 minutes.
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>>561847715
Turbo gains are always lower.

Build Dagon on Axe for the funny laser dunks.
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>>561847760
I wish I was playing Garen...I don't wanna think I just wanna do the Ooga Booga Spin and then smite people.
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how come nobody bitches about bm's drums of slop when it's been fucking broken since release
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>>561847339
After half an hour I couldn't get a All Pick match.
It's so over.
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>>561848674
beast is a honest hero
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Is someone making a thread
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>>561831945
Yeah I euthanize way more games now, the crazy thing is my winrate is still positive, I just give up more easy and hope for better circumstances next. It's either that or trying and getting mad and losing anyway. Not letting retards hold me hostage, go next!
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