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>X

>dead twice in a row
It hasn't been this bad in years

>>561667734
honestly i think the sonic op was a major problem but also 7re was just not as appealing to ppl here as the HD titles

>>561674616
Saw normies still drop the game cause it was “too long”. Squenix are idiots

>>561674837
in the age of trophies and achievements you can easily check how most people don't even play any game enough to get the tutorial achievement, meaning they literally just boot it up, play it a few minutes and then never again

>>561674837
Guess they'd better cut out a few more islands for the next remake

>>561653898
Recently finished DQV as my first DQ game
which one should I play next ?

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>>561674837
>>561675087
Judging by Steam achivements the completion rate isn't out of the ordinary
40-50% of people finishing games has pretty much been the norm for ages

>>561675927
that was my point, most people routinely don't finish games to the point they barely start them to begin with
though slightly less than half of them finishing the game isn't bad at all

>>561667734
Its so over

So what are the odds we see a remake of the other 5 games before 12?

>>561674616
7R was so disappointing, even as someone who fully coped and was okay with the cut content. The complete lack of care throughout the game and waste of the artstyle was so appalling I had to just stop playing it, stop my grind of endgame PS1 7 and just hard pivot to playing Super Robot Wars J and just anything else that wasn't Dragon Quest instead.

>>561675679
III or IV are good next steps, depending on whether you want to build your own party or have a set cast. Any version is fine.

>>561684154
>Super Robot Wars J
So you moved from one easy game to another?

>>561674616
>>561674837
>>561675236
The fundamental nature of DQ7 is what turns people off. A ton of players expect every DQ game to basically be a clone of DQ8 because "that one has no filler and is epic".

>>561684582
Yeah.
The key difference is that one is cool and satisfying to play while the other makes me question my faith in the series I'm playing going forward.

>>561684851
I was enjoying it up until Maribel fucked off when she was my only party member with multiheal and I rage quit because I didn't want to take the time to grind it onto someone else.

>>561685961
>Satisfying to play
Funny considering that J is often considered to be one of the weaker handheld SRWs.

>>561687484
My only other experiences for handheld ones are with A Portable+ and the original on Gameboy.
Plus J is the only one in english that lets me play with the original Gundam Seed cast, so that's a plus.

>>561688463
>A Portable+
Don't play rebalance mods unless you've played the original first. Vanilla AP is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
>J is the only one in english with the original Seed cast
W

>>561688851
The thing is, AP was my first choice for trying out SRW after bouncing off several SD Gundam games hard, and deciding that maybe SRW would give me the Gundam SRPG I wanted. It was pretty, I could put it on my Vita, and I was familiar with all the Gundam series present.
The only problem seemed to be AP's difficulty, so I read into the + mod, saw that it was designed to make the game more like modern SRWs and more beginner friendly, so I figured it'd be perfect for me if I play + instead of the base game.

>>561690342
AP+ makes it easier but it doesnt really make it more like modern games at all. I still recommend playing the original so you'll have a better appreciation of what AP+ did.

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>>561667734

So everywhere I look online I see people shilling greatswords on the protagonist in 11, but my autistic ass has been running around dual wielding falcon swords for like half of act 2 (mainly for the convenience of it having a pretty high chance of instantly vaporizing any random metals I come across). Am I retarded?

>>561698861
Unless you're playing on full draconian meme mode the game's not hard enough for that to be a concern. I always spec the hero into sword & board.

>>561698861
Greatswords are the best early game weapon, since you can grab Cutting Edge and Helichopter much earlier than any useful sword skill.
By the start of act 2, access to Falcon Blades and Gigaslash make swords clearly better for a while.

Overall swords may probably be better during endgame too.
Sword Dance is just as strong as Unbridled Blade.
Gigagash not only hits all enemies, but also hits harder than Gigacrash if you dual wield.
Greatswords can target and hit single enemies slightly harder though, and gives you a parry chance that dual wielding does not.

I wish Hendrik could unlock dual wielding greatswords like a Dark Souls character

>X

>>561706016
They should've just given everyone dual wielding and let them dual wield everything. Let Rab and Jade strap an extra set of claws to their feet.

I played DQ1 HD-2D today and got killed by the Knight Aberrant. Fuck that hueg asshole.

>>561716289
I'm just glad Serena has dual wands. Wand + shield looks pretty silly.
>>561718431
Welcome to the club.

>>561683514
I see 4-6 happening but not any other

>>561722239
Counter, she should've been dual wielding shields.

>>561724906
I unironically think 4-6 need remakes less than 8 and 9 unless they go full autismo and make them 3d. The ds/phone port holds up pretty well.

>>561727994
I don’t want 4 3D because of how insanely censored it will be compared to an HD2D where the censorship’s won’t be as obvious

>>561728179
>insanely censored
What are you talking about? You speak as if DQ4 have absurd amounts of violence or sexual content.
Is there anything besides Maya that could be censored?

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>>561653898
>Please be welcome
you sound like a sissy op. change it back to the original next thread.

>>561730007
Play Dragon Quest Monsters 3

>>561731021
>vagueposting
Come on anon, just point out.

>>561730007
Maya is Dragon Quest 4

>>561731417
Yes?
Anon said he doesn't want 4 3D because of "how insanely censored it will be".
Maya is Dragon Quest 4.

>>561731578
Yes

>>561731738
And I had already mentioned Maya.
Is there anything else? How insanely censored could it be?

>>561728179
I mean if they're censoring 2d sprites we're already kind of washed. That boss troll hit just makes it look uncanny to me.

Even in an HD-2D version the removal of casinos would probably hurt Maya as a character, in addition to just being lame. She's either fucked or double fucked.
Also looking forward to marrying Nera or Debora in a Chuck E. Cheese since Mr. Briscoletti can't own a casino ship anymore.

>>561732804
On one hand casino grinding is ass. On the other killing flavor is more ass.

>>561732804
If they remake 5 again they need to add another woman to marry. Every remake needs a new one added to the pool.

Hello Dragon Quest friends, I have been searching the internet to find a good new monster game, since Dragon Quest Monsters 1 & 2 are my favourites, and after looking through hundreds of lists of 'Top 20 monster games that aren't pokemon', I found a random reddit post by the Siralim developer talking about a DQM2 mod called DQM2 Ultimate. Don't know if anyone ever heard of it, but I wanted to share my find. Might play through it and post some updates.

Reheal.

Dragon Quest 7 didn't need another remake either, but it happened anyway.
If I had to go schizo mode, I'd say that DQ7 received a remake to weight between HD-2D and full 3D, to see which format is more viable before committing to the whole Zenith trilogy.

I wish they'd use something like one of these cheaper styles to do a new main DQ without spending a decade on it. There are plenty of ways to make something fresh without it needing to be on the same level of presentation as XI or whatever they're probably doing with XII. It sucks that that's just not allowed anymore now that handhelds are dead.

>>561742989
They should make a new game in purely 2d. Realistically speaking at this point they should be capable of pulling it off with a dedicated team of less than 10 people.

>>561739581
nah i don't think they'd do anything like reimagined for any other game, the diorama bobblehead aesthetics i mean
though i do say IV to VI should be in full 3D and not HD-2D, as the DS remakes are pretty much HD2D already (especially if you play the smartphone version)

>>561742989
DQ11's dev time was shorter than how long its been since 12 was announced
The presentation wasn't that crazy as far as Squeenix's tendency towards retarded scope AAA projects goes
If anything I'm guessing they've probably restarted development or had staff pulled away to juggle the other remakes for a while inbetween somewhere

>>561758349
>anything I'm guessing they've probably restarted development
this is it, they had said they're trying something new and they're probably scrapping whole revisions along the way cause it's too different or it doesn't work. Which i mean, it takes time but i'm glad if it is, i wouldn't want something bad being put out simply cause "people are waiting!!"
also i don't think devs are being pulled to work on remakes and the like, simply cause i believe most of the recent projects happened specifically cause XII is taking its time, and stuff like remakes are relatively straightforward to make even if with changes and whatever

XII is actually gonna be X-II

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>>561757143
If they recycled Dark Prince's assets (Or even just the aesthetic) I wouldn't mind. Though I'm hoping they'd bother to pretty the environments up a bit at least.

>>561774807
Yuck. As much as I don't like 7R, DQM3 might take the cake as the ugliest recent DQ game. At least 7R was trying to look weird on purpose, DQM3 is just a dollar store version of 11.

>>561774807
How can you see Rose's fish eyes and say "This looks fine"?

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>>561775857
Seems consistent with Toriyama's art.
Unless you're saying the team should have said no to Toriyama. I don't disagree that they should have an input, but I still doubt they'd do that.

>X-2

>>561779265
Ugly

>>561779265
Cute

How are the accents in the recent HD-2D remakes?

>>561818492
About the same as 11.

>>561818917
Damn, hard pass then.

>>561818492
>>561818917
It's similar to XI in III, but I & II are all in mild ye olde englishe like most previous versions of those games rather than doing an accent per town. It's mild enough in II that even with the occasional thou it's probably the most normal of the modern DQ games.

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>My first Dragon Quest game still used the Dragon Warrior naming

Zoom!

>>561826371
how did you get this photo of me

If I want to give this series one more shot should I go for 1+2 or 3? I'm not hung up on story references or plot order, I solely care about which games are better.

Playing 11, trying to wrap up the act 2 side quests before finishing it up, whoever thought that jackpot one was a good idea is a bastard.

>>561840690
>one more shot
Which one(s) did you play before and what did you like or dislike about them?
If we're talking about the HD-2D versions I still think III is the best, but it depends what you're looking for. III has party customization with a class system and a more open-ended world, while II has a ton of bosses and set characters with lots of abilities.
If you did go for I+II I'd skip DQI. It's cute, but the HD version runs too long for such a limited game. The older versions are even simpler but also much shorter.

Jessica is still best girl

>>561826371
this would be true if it was bald

>>561840690
>If I want to give this series one more shot
play VIII or XI

>>561826371
>tfw i played dragon warrior first and had no idea it was a series until years later when high school friends told me to get DQ9 so we could play together, and I connected the dots when I saw the slime and dracky

>>561867010
In their defense, Doragon Kuesuto was clearly an extremely difficult title to translate and it was an massive test of skill on their part to even get dragon out of it.

>>561868368
You kid, but there's a world out there where we're waiting for news about Gwaelin's Knight XII right now.

>>561867010
I played the GBC version of 1 and 2 and then kinda forgot about the games until I played the DS Monsters games years later and I was wondering why the fuck the sound effects and dracky were familiar

I should play Dragon Quest.

>>561841671
>>561865039
I've beat 8 and played part of 11. Pacing was a problem with the latter and while revisiting it I got stuck in the quagmire of modding it to restore the original visuals and was never happy with the result.

>>561885183
You might prefer III, then. II HD still isn't too bad, but it adds some bloat that wasn't in the original.
I'd also recommend the DS games, IV and V especially, for being short and well paced.

Just got the flying carpet in DQ7 playing the 3DS version. Is there much game left anons?

>>561890770
I want to say you're like halfway.

>>561887150
I'm staying as far away from the DS games as possible because accents drive me up a wall.

>>561897103
The DS games aren't all on the same level with that. V is milder than IV with the worst of it concentrated in a handful of characters, and VI has by far the least accent shit of any modern DQ until arguably II HD.

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How egregious is the cut content for VII Reimagined? I have not played the original or the 3DS version, and was about to pull the trigger on Reimagined when I noticed that it has been streamlined compared to the other versions.
Are there QoL features you profit from that make up for the lost content, or are the older versions preferable?

>>561901916
It's pretty significant. Several towns, dungeons, side activities and monster types are totally gone with very little new to replace them. The way things were removed also gets pretty sloppy at times, and even without knowing the original the seams might be apparent. The big improvements are to the battle and job systems, very few complaints about what was done there.

>>561896235
Thanks!
I guess I should take a break from it and come back in a month or two then. Did this when I played X Offline and XI S, and it was a good decision.

>>561901916
i haven't played it yet, but i decided to eventually get it on pc cause there's a guy over on nexusmods singlehandedly reimagining the reimagining. Not much he can do about the cut story bits of course, but from what i can see he's pretty much doing everything else

>Dragon Quest II has a new endgame scenario if players have first cleared Dragon Quest I, and most importantly, have clear game save data of Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake on the same platform.
Is this true?
>>561897927
I'll probably take a look at 6 then, just for the hell of it.

>>561912474
I skipped DQ1 because I was more interested in DQ2, and I got the extended ending anyway.

>>561912874
I don't think you need any save data, I played just DQ2 HD on its own and got to the full ending after the postgame dungeon.
Unless they're talking about something else.

>>561906502
Most of those patches are pointless or just make the game even easier.

>>561912474
>Is this true?
No.

>>561903391
>>561906502
Thanks, I guess I will sleep on it for a bit. Are there patches for the 3DS or PSX versions that allow for higher EXP gain or other ways to speed things up, in case things do take too long? DQ7's supposed length always turned me off the game a bit, but I do want to experience the entire game, not just what has been deemed "necessary" I guess.

As for Nexus, not sure which mods you are talking about. I skimmed the page earlier, it all seems to be minor patching here and there, like what you typically see for other RPGs.

>>561915597
>>561916292
i don't think we're talking about the same mods

>>561916292
>Are there patches for the 3DS or PSX versions that allow for higher EXP gain
That's not really necessary. DQ7's long because it's just long, and it feels longer than that because it's linear and repetitive. It's not especially grindy or difficult.

>>561912474
No. There's a new endgame scenario, but you don't need any of that to get it.

>>561916292
7's long because its a fucking long game not because it's grindy.

>>561923115
>>561925250
Glad my impression of it turned out to be correct.

After playing through DQ1 HD-2D in February, it hooked me so hard I've played through up to starting 6 tonight. I'm really impressed with how each game has such a unique appeal despite sharing very similar core mechanics.

I've stuck to the older versions of games after 2-HD, snes 3 and 6 with PS2 5 and NES 4, so it's a shame I'm running out of ones with a normal translation. I really wasn't a fan of how heavy the accents were in the HD games.

>>561938651
For what it's worth, VIII is fairly mild compared to what came after. If things stayed at that level going forward I think there'd be a lot less complaints.

oi, guv

>>561939646
Yeah 8 is mostly fine even if it's annoying that the pre-rendered cutscenes can't have voices turned off.

>>561940046
Do not diss my man Yangus.

>>561942434
Yangus is fat and his hat looks stupid.

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>>561945350
Sometimes that's just what you're looking for.

oi, ireburn

I've compiled a list of all of Yangus' redeeming features:

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Do you guys know of any DQ challenge runs? I thought this one was pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq3Ri9L7c1w

>>561826371
>my first one was called dragon quest but didn't have a number because they removed it cause literally no dragon quests in Euroland so it didn't make sense locally

VIII on the ps2. I rented it. I'm 30.

There was a thread on /v/ last night that brought up the question of what the "intended" order of the Erdrick Trilogy now that the HD-2D remakes have 3 come first.
Does the long established precedent of 1-2-3 still hold true or is it really supposed to be 3-1-2 now?

>>561971016
Horii himself said it's 3-1-2, though i'd say it's just a guideline and it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Like they didn't change the overall plot to account for that, they just put some nods that you would get by playing the games in that order
also, this is referring specifically to the HD-2D remakes

>>561971016
I decided to do it 1-2-3 still despite Horii's comments, though playing 1 I see a lot of reference to new stuff related to Erdrick that probably comes around in the new version of 3.

>>561971016
I think a more meaningful consideration than the story stuff is skills and spells. Assuming you don't grind every vocation your access to them will be fairly limited in III, then II gives you everything crammed onto four characters plus even more.
In the end it was never that important and it still isn't particularly. The issues introduced by the HD versions are less the story additions and more that you have to go through a full, nearly unchanged Alefgard three times now.

>>561956632
This guy did XI at the lowest possible level. A lot of clever workarounds: https://youtu.be/e3_YPb4C9sg

>>561971016
Release order. So 1-2-3 for the originals and 3-1-2 for the remakes.

>playing Visions of Mana
>the first party member is a southern maribelle

>>561984620
I always find it funny that they localized her speaking differently on purpose to giving her a southern accent.

>X

>XII

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What an asshole

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I caved and bought 3 HD-2D.
Any mod suggestions or is this fine? Only one I'm iffy about is porting over the 1+2 gameplay tweaks.

>>562013073
Does the Zoom mod actually bring back head banging, or does it just pop up a message or something?

>introduce a new version of Jacquline for the Reimagine
>never use her again

https://x.com/daifuku1092/status/2038525230868844783/photo/1

There should be more palette swaps of cute girls. What if there was a black-haired Jessica or a redhead Serena?

Which Dragon Quest games are completionist friendly?
Games where it's doable to reach max level, get all the best gear, unlock all skills. Is there any?

>>562038540
Max level no matter the game is a grindfest. The easiest for it is 1 since it has a lower level cap. If you wanted completionism 1-5 are the easiest followed by 8, 11, 6, 7 and then 9. 9 could take you over 150+ hours to grind out everything

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>>562038996
>5
>collect every single monster
>level every single monster to max
>all of that two or three times depending on the version
You're gonna kill him

>>562038996
>9 could take you over 150+ hours to grind out everything
9 could easily take over 500 hours to get all the boss drops.

>>562039694
He just needs to get a Liquid Metal slime three times its that easy.
>>562041921
All items I think would take a bit longer but you can manipulate loot drops, so if you really know what you are doing you can get a complete set of endgame items in 40-50 hours

>>562041921
Not to mention you have to bullshit the endgame content into the game in the first place. It's not hard, but you don't have to do that with the other ones.

Your homework: explain why DQ8 wouldn't exist without Gauntlet.

>>562013073
None of them.

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>>562005905
cute

draque

>trying to make custom DQ themed magic the gathering cards to play with my group
>finding half decent art of the weapons is hell
>even mother fucking Erdrick's Sword doesn't exist in a resolution higher than 480p
Why is the weapon artwork so hard to find? Even searching Japanese wikis doesn't help.

>>562080062
your best bet would be to get dragon quest rivals assets, given it was a card game (or "card" game, ie like hearthstone or whatever its called)

>>562080062
idk if it's exactly what you're looking for but the non-H section of sadpanda has artbook scans and stuff

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>>562081914
https://exhentai.org/g/945806/55695c862b/

>>562081692
Yeah, I've got that already. There's decent stuff in there, its just small still and doesn't come out great with a 2x ai upscale to try and fix the size.

Zing.

>>561818492
The Indian one had me in tears

>>561840690
3 is the best of the nes titles, best of the snes titles, best of the gb titles and best of the hd2d titles

>>561901916
They cut way too much and the monster replacements don’t fit the fucking game or their areas most the time

>>561916292
Idk why you would need higher exp gain in dq7, it’s one of the easiest games in the series

>>561971016
3 always came before 1

>>562013073
Why would you ever mod a game you are playing for the first time besides for bug fixes or restoring lost content?

>>562054774
>becomes op
>ruins her look
Why did she do it?

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>>562101334
*perfects her look

>>562093512
Anon is not talking about chronological order.

>>562104284
genuinely why didn’t we get the 3ds game?

>>562114224
Crispin btfo

>>562112217
not enough money to localize it, not worth it

>>562112217
too confusing for baka gaijin

>>562114675
but we got 7 3ds and 8 3ds AND ps4 11

Why is there a random ass all girls school in DQ XI

>>562132298
GET HIM

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>>562112217
Realistically SE thought it was too late to bother. By the time DQXI originally released in Japan the Switch was already out. Given that it took until late 2018 for just the PS4 version of DQ11 to be localized they likely didn't think it was worth it at that point.

>>562133909
It was never gonna happen. They went out of there way to remove any connectivity to the 3DS version. They wouldn't have done that if they were considering it at all.

>>562093059
I almost agree but 2HD is pretty damn good. Definitely a contender.

>>562093673
Bug fixes are fine but the majority of content restoration mods are bad, this one being a rare exception.

>>562155746
I cast Sizz.

Thwack.

>>562133909
What are the chances that this gets a fan translation at some point

>>562169629
it's cursed by the fact that the console version already got translated, usually these projects are mostly moved by the fact that there's no alternative
i'm unironically thinking about learning japanese myself, knowing very well it has not real world uses besides specifically for manga, anime and videogames.

dragon quest sports spin-off

dragon quest rpg spin off

dragon quest page 10 spin off

>>562194175
I play that one every day

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