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>AC7/8 on Steam
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>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
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>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guide
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>/aceg/ livery and emblem pack
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>Encyclopedia Strangereal
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>PA Twitter (JP)
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>AC7
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:
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>No EML/QAAM/SASM
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>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY
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>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ
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>/aceg/ Permalink
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BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...
>Is there any AC8 news yet?
YES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYx_867ua0 [Embed]
>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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Protag and Antag planes have been shown off
Which one do you think will be next from the one we know are in
A-6?
Flanker?
Mig-29 and will it still be the A model or will she finally get a more modern variant?
One of the many other planes we know are in the game?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww6hP8pLZZc

I can smell an announcement coming.
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They already started plane dropping. We know the release date will be told soon
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Do we want a skin like this for F-4?
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Or this?
How about both?
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This is still an odd looking plane
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>>561676270
>>561676430
who cares it'll still be an ugly plane
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>>561681481
She isn't ugly your ugly and stinky too.
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>>561676270
Personally I think it'd be cool for us to get the livery of the final F-4EJ Phantom, although we kinda got that already in 7 with the tribute livery.
>>561678786
It reminds me of the He-162.
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>>561683778
Wouldn't be surprised to see it show up. Good thing about the JDSF and PA they seem to have a really good relationship so getting any special unique livery with all markings to any unit should be very easy to do.
>He-162.
Now that you mention it....huh it really does
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>>561683778
>>561684945
The He-162 even had a planned V tail version
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>>561687701
I wonder how this thing would work in a World War 2 Ace Combat. Early game superplane maybe, kinda like the ones in X?
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>>561689930
WW2 jets were superplanes in top speed only, they were worse than late war prop fighters in every other aspect of flight performance
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Why has the Harrier never been a playable aircraft in AC
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>>561696360
it was in AH and Infinity, of all games.
same thing with the F-35B
i think before those games, PA just didn't want to deal with playable VTOLs
here and now in a post-Shinden-in-AC7 world tho they don't really have an excuse
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>>561692692
True. I guess they'd be more like the MIG-31 is in these games, all spees with basically no manueverability.
>>561696872
All it ever really did was let them stall at extremely low speeds without immediately going nose down.
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>>561687701
I see
Alright someone really liked this design and they were able to design a small passenger jet out of it then get them into production with paying customers. As while its an odd plane its still kind of cool looking

>>561689930
Anyway you want it to be just like how most WWII games handle jets as the real ones were kind of crap. Out of 13 they lost 10 which were due to either engine flame out they had 30mins of fuel btw or being made of wood they just kind of broke
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>>561697728
>I guess they'd be more like the MIG-31 is in these games, all spees with basically no manueverability.
The worst part was terrible acceleration
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I uh.... saw my death uhhhh In my dreams many times.
So like uuuuuh a nightmare that I'll never uhhhh forget.
That was uhhhhhhhh reality
*djent guitars*

AH title drop
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IF your not sure your PC can manage 8 at anything beyond min settings and you were thinking of getting it on PS5. Well its going up another $100 in a week. I guess I know what I have to get now before it goes up
>Watch everywhere be OoS already.
>PS5 pro will be $900
Its like they just don't want to sell that model to anyone ever.
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>>561701860
imagine WW1 aviators AND sailors seeing this
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>>561701910
So like was Bishop just constantly having the same nightmare about a Russian plane with a shark mouth killing him since he became a fighter pilot? Like was that a premonitory dream he just has for some reason that just so happens to be the exact type of plane Markov flies for real? I know there's a short novel written by the same guy who wrote AH's story about Bishop's time in Bosnia, but I don't know if he actually fights Markov at some point during it. Does that make Bishop the only Ace Combat protagonist with supernatural abilities beyond an inhuman level of G tolerance?
>>561702201
At this point your best bet is trading in a PS4 or something for one at a secondhand shop, but even then they'll probably scalps the fuck out of you for it. I hate Sony so goddamn much it's unreal.
>>561704013
I wonder how General Billy Mitchell would feel about modern naval aviation. He was simultaneously ahead of the game with regards to the potential of aerial warfare but also hilariously off the mark in a lot of ways. Then again that's how most people like him are isn't it?
>>561704254
>Don't talk to me or my son ever again.
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>>561704834
I think it was just basic premonition writing and he broke the spell or something, I don't know. I haven't played AH in years.
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>>561704834
Yeah I have no love for sony either anymore its not even anger its just disappointment. I was planning to get one anyway to extend the life of my PS4 games but the rona happened and you couldn't find any for a while then got to thinking do I need one yet? oh price went up I can wait for it to come down. Price going up again...FUCK

>modern naval aviation
Smug if the guy could have manage to live just 10 more years he could have died very content and smug that he was right. Along with really rubbing it into so so many people.
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>>561705978
Yeah I figured it was just that but it's just funny overthinking it because AH's plot is so silly to begin with. I do wish Markov got more screentime being a smug jackass over the radio and styling on a few mooks, good idea for a villain with meh execution.
>>561707181
Well honestly with the way prices have gone, it's gotten to the point where it might be cheaper to build a half decent computer even considering the fuckass price increases there. If a PS5 Pro's gonna be 1k why not spend a bit more to make something a bit more powerful you know? I keep hoping Intel pulls its head of out of it's fucking ass and puts out a new generation of their graphics cards but Intel's head is surgically welded to said ass.
>Along with really rubbing it into so so many people.
If you showed him a Quicksink JDAM he'd probably die of happiness lol. That's exactly the kind of thing the bombing exercise was trying to prove. And I would think that as much of a stubborn jackass as he was, I think he would recognize the advancement of naval aviation. His skeptcism of it and emphasis on land based bombers was more because the technology was in its infancy rather than because it was a bad idea. Shame he didn't live to see the Doolittle Raid though, he probably would have loved a bomber named after him successfully striking a target.
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>>561708891
Well the 5 pro has been a joke since launch for its price now the joke just gets funnier. At this rate I don't see consoles surviving more than maybe next gen and thats the end. Its reached the point of crazy like its the 3DO all over again which sold for $700 back in 94 compared to the SNES $200 and $300 for the PS1.

>Quicksink JDAM
He would have died of a hard on that wouldn't go away after seeing a plane drop one of those. Lets not forget the range its dropped at compared to how you bombed ships back then. Then you show him antiships missiles and what kind of range they have.

Oh I agree as I read up on him I get the feeling he would see the merit in Naval aviation as it grew but at the same time land based aviation has also grown by massive leaps at well.
Besides he was still proven right shortly after his death air power is the future. I would expect huge smugness about the path air power took over the last 80+ years.
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I'm basing my new plen loosely, pretty much just for the top view on one of those what if MiG-41 designs
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>>561705978
That was my interpretation too. Flew so good he changed his fate, or was it Guts? I don't quite remember how the story goes either.
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>>561718706
I can see the resemblance with just a glance but how will it look from front or side?
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>>561723638
Something like this, with a V tail
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>>561630323
philips screws when
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>>561724559
I see, going for a single big intake a a split one like Typhoon has?
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>>561704834
Motherfucker's got the Force.
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>>561738038
He does fly like Jedi in the Clone War do honestly. Dude can pull PSMs in Cold War shitboxes.
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JASDF Lightnings doing some sick maneuvers. This squadron has a neat little frog dude as their emblem.
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Up
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>>561750479
In this economy?!
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>>561665239
If there's a Mig-29 surely it'll be the Mig-29K. It's a carrier game after all.
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>>561726841
Probably a single intake since the idea is to give it one big single engine, but that's not set in stone
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>>561744179
This squad use to fly F-4's. That was a huge upgrade for them.
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/aceg/ plane photos, armchair air force and one guy posting other games general
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Ace Combat should have a built-in mission editor imo.
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>>561765647
Plane game plane general
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10 again? we are ded today
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>>561789054
no new trailer
no new planes
whole lotta nothing to chat about
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>>561789393
Fair
Hmm I wonder if some Hornet pilot will decide yes I need to drop a toilet on Iranian target. Gotta keep that tradition alive.
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>>561789983
Pilots on the Gerald R. Ford probably do given the toilet issues they had recently.
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>Rebb Ford (creative director of Warframe) is now an Ace Combat fan, thanks to /our/ boy marcomeatball
The fire rises
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>>561793494
peak
i still feel bad about it
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>>561791242
?? That was the laundry room that burnt down
But still if someone did I would have expected to see pictures of a Hornet with a toilet attached to a hard point. by now.
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>>561803268
Maybe it was a different carrier but before the laundry fire I swear I saw something about the Ford having plumbing issues.
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>>561804204
Yes, it had plumbing issue and they asked help to Israel but they didn't want to help. I know it was in the mediterranean sea then but i don't really know if it came to Italy for help or it went to Cyprus or Greece. But yeah it happened
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>>561804204
If it was for fresh water ok fine that is a real issue that you can't do without but if it was just the toilets being clogged from bad pipes. Your on a ship surrounded by water its an endless area to shit in.
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Hello buddies.

Long time no see. I'm dropping by to tell you that ASE v0.11a went live a few hours ago. If you guys want to check out the trailer, it's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-iXQ633ag

The project is available for download on itch, and there's a detailed google forms you can fill out to tell me where I should focus my efforts on next!

https://mackerel-sky.itch.io/at-skies-edge
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>>561797923
Maybe now she can push them to FINALLY make Archwing less shit handling
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>>561804204
Because people keep flushing paper towels down the toilets. For the love of god STOP DOING THAT the toilets do not like that. Even land based toilets hate that
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>>561805676
Those shitty graphics have sovl and I'm saying that as an unironic compliment
>>561806769
At some point you gotta wonder if it wouldn't be worth it to make toilets that can handle those towels, since you will never stop people from being retarded
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>>561806649
>the modern Warframe devteam
>revisiting anything
lolno
For a second though I thought I was still on my /wfg/ tab and was baffled when I scrolled down and saw plens instead of people shilling/seething about the devstream between bouts of schizospam
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>>561805676
I'll give it a go, thanks for sharing buddy
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>>561807038
It just leads to people stuffing MORE towels down the shitter or it getting jammed up somewhere else. Like for ships the pumps for the shitter are bound to fuck up because of the clog further down the line due to the slow buildup of fucking paper towels from Ensign Dumbass
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Shout out to the buddy I saw in the wild today, doing the good work
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>>561807038
just don't give them towels
ez
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I hope PC niggas in here have at minimum an RT capable GPU for 8.
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>>561815202
My 6800XT is, in theory, capable of running RT.
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>>561815202
The game is still going to be on console its PC specs won't be any different or very little than console. If your system can meet or exceed PS5/XBOX specs you can play the game at or near full power. If your system is lower than them you still have a chance to play on low settings. Unless you are still running Win 7 in which case you aren't playing at all.
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>>561815979
>The game is still going to be on console its PC specs won't be any different or very little than console
Yeah, thats my point. If 8's lighting is designed around UE5's RTGI features (something that current gen consoles are able to utilize) then people who cant manage that on their PC might not be able to play.
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>>561815202
I'm gonna weigh the idea of replacing at least my MB, GPU, CPU and RAM tomorrow. I've a lot of savings and I could probably recoup the costs in 2 months, so I'm not too worried.
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>>561816492
Apparently memory prices are gonna be going down soon due to that recent Google AI breakthrough.
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>>561816883
I'll believe that when I see it.
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>>561816883
Yeah right sure when I see the proof of it in the prices I'll believe it , Oil keeps going higher the price of oil has knock on effects to everything on the planet.
Besides a breakthrough doesn't equal instant changes that stuff can take years or longer to show real world changes.
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>>561816465
They'll be able to play but only at low settings which would have that feature turned off I would guess. Some of the PS5 games that came over to PC the min specs for them are a Ryzen 5 and a GTX 1060 with 16GB of ram. If you have at least that much you can play on low settings. Or just get it on a console if you have one
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>keep thinking about the idea of an Ace Combat style game about helicopters
>know for a fact I have no skills or drive to make it real
>even if I knew how to design a game know whatever I make will never meet my autistic standards
Man.
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>>561815202
4070Ti here, yeah, is not like graphics are evolving like before.
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Persistent plane wreckage in AC8 would be neat.
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>>561827804
At the very least I'd like it if they didn't immediately despawn.
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>>561827804
Yeah that one is toast, odd how the radar dome survived must have impacted the body instead of the radar itself.

>>561828026
It seems to vary by game in PS2 ones the planes wouldn't despawn till they hit the ground. While 7 had a few second till they vanish.
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>>561828026
>>561828907
Plane destruction is def something they've worked on, considering Kono and co made a big deal of the cargobird pieces impacting another cargobird midflight. They very specifically mentioned it being a feature that hasnt appeared in an AC title yet. Also this patent application...
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>>561827804
Damn, so much for being "damaged". That's pretty much a write-off.
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>>561829387
Hmmm
>Use an enemy plane to destroy several oil tanks which set off a chain reaction taking out the whole thing.
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Buddies I have been real busy lately. But just in time to bump.exe
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>>561827804
Fucked.png
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>>561805676
I'll give you more in depth feedback after I finish the demo but I just wanted to say you did the Phantom justice. Flies like a brick, hits like a truck, and can move at incredible hihg speed. Also I love the gunpods
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>>561805676
Good work.
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>>561805676
Good to see you back, buddy! I'll (hopefully) give it a spin by the next week-end.
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>>561811724
You think they're going to not break the air dryers. Do not underestimate the stupidity of your average person.
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The F-35C's presence in 8 is inevitable, but I still really want to see the A model there. If we can have a whole horde of nigh-identical Flankers and Eagles, it's only fair that we get two F-35s for different loadouts.
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>>561856963
The fact that the A somehow has one less appearance than the B is very funny to me. I guess you could make the A a pure fighter while the C is a multirole with an A2G focus? Give the C back its LASMs too.
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>>561863084
Just give the A model UGBs and I'm happy.
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>>561856963
With a carrier as the focus I kind of expect the B if a 2nd F-35 gets added in.
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>>561856249
at least they won't flush them down the shitter
hopefully
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>>561868108
Marines are often on those carriers as part of the air wing. They are ADVANCED stupid.
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>>561816883
AI companies will still buy all the RAM ever because it means they have a leg up on other companies in the future.
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>>561870294
Yeah its showings its effects already Sony has stopped production of SD cards WD has made all the HD they are going to make this year. AI is the main cause the sooner that bubble goes pop the better for everyone.

Anyways Planes
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Playing M1 in Zero
>Pixy takes out two bombers + the named Draken
>Every fighter I hit after that point turns yellow
For some reason that seems to be a flag to increase yellow targets as that is what usually follows when Pixy gets a lot of kills in M1
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>>561871698
Operation Herp Derp crashing the economy might help pop the bubble. And they'll claim AI was failed not because of the bubble but because of Straits being closed or some other cope.
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M2 just feels right when you use the EA-6 with its forest camo
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>>561874048
I think M1 in general has a higher chance of getting yellow targets so you can quickly hop onto the style you want, either in NG or NG+. Switching from full Knight to full merc takes a while.
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>>561877985
Yea but it's calibrated enough that if you go full swap you'll end up perfect Soldier by the end of the run. So three runs to get the three perfect styles. So I went pure Knight to pure Soldier to pure Merc by the end of each run.
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>>561875715
I like using the F-1 for it too.
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in a less fuckass joke of a timeline we would've gotten an AC3 remake with some origa vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk3Gak8EOOk
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>>561890625
I've done that a time a two also enjoyable.
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>>561901109
Japanese city roads are just to small
Good song however
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>>561908731
To think the entire story of 3 is a guy getting cucked by someone who also cucked his own digital copy
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>>561903735
Not if you're in a reasonably sized car.
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>>561909692
Its always fun to tell people that AC3 JP is just the cyberpunk cucked revenge simulator just for the looks I see and the replies I read. Which does make me wonder something out of all the people you see yelling for gimme JP version of 3 I wonder how many of them actual know the games story and will be in for something of a shock when they finally see it? I'm guessing most of them
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>>561911425
>Its always fun to tell people that AC3 JP is just the cyberpunk cucked revenge simulator
This pretty much applies to the original Megami Tensei too.
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>>561911425
I just want it just for how deranged it is. And mostly the missions
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>>561912342
Then go play it right now?
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wife
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I like that each plane in AC1 controls differently but some of them are just bad lol. Flying with a d-pad doesn't help either. Honestly the jump in quality from 1 to 2 is kinda nuts.
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what's the big fuss with this new f-22 upgrade
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If you die I'm not making another thread just to watch you let it get archived again.
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The new version of the ACX texture pack looks awesome
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>>561966219
what when did ostrich release a new one
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We all know damn well that a AC4 - AC5 - AC0 remastered 120$ boundle for PC would be a goldmine for project aces.
Why didn't they do it yet?
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>>561969121
for the same reason sega doesnt make a chao raising gatcha, they have forgotten they like money
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>>561969121
because the licenses for all the planes in those games expired years ago and getting them licensed again costs money
its the same reason racing games with real cars in them get delisted
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>>561950107
D pad is how everyone played it originally it wasn't hard it was the only way to play it. I did and same for AC2
1 was the tech demo which was little more than the arcade game home version. 2 was the first one made for console instead of arcade machines.
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>>561971134
damn that suck. But if they pay for the license doing the F\A-18 AC8 for example, could they use that same license to do it on a remake of AC0 or they would need to buy another license?
I just looked it up and they could cost up to 1million$ per plane, that's crazy
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>>561973276
It all comes down to how you work out your contract. US, JP planes are easy as most are always in, same for French & Swedes, Russians don't care, The bitch comes from the Tornado & Kfir if you want a full remaster you gotta have all the planes again.
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>>561973276
To state what you might already agree with, I wouldn't trust any hearsay and armchair speculation you find from some light Googling about the matter, because that's all we've had for the last two decades of people asking about such things.
Defense industry PR is surprisingly responsive. Maybe shoot off an email to a few companies from a burner account.
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>>561974219
I remember few years back, the company that made Humvees sued Activision because Modern Warfare 2 used the vehicles in-game with their real name without a license, and Activision won the case. So it seems there's a precedent that you can just put RL vehicle name in the game no problem. Though I suppose maybe game companies are still spooked by the legal headache that might happen.
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>Sees cover for new steel book for the Macross part of Robotech
>It has a VF-4 on the cover
>Never appeared in the show only showed up in flashback 2012 which was never a part of Robotech
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>>561975223
You forget something important PA takes pride in the fact that they have officially licensed planes in the game. Not the same but legally different like others do. They want to do it this way and its opened a lot of doors for them. It doesn't matter what Activision did
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>>561975223
Didn't know that, thanks.
The casefile for AM General v. Activision Blizzard is nicely short and sweet.



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