>>561706021
More chaos themed powers I guess.

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We don't need zealot 2.0

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>>561706058
Yeah you're right. I only included tech priest I couldn't think of anything else.
>>561706148
But Scum, Arbite, and Skitarii are Vet 2.0, Vet 3.0, and Vet 4.0.

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True Grit?
More like True Shit!

>>561706148
We are however getting Metal Scum with Castrated Desperado stance.

>>561706279
>But Scum, Arbite, and Skitarii are Vet 2.0, Vet 3.0, and Vet 4.0.
Ignore him. A minority of Zealotfags have an insecurity complex.

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>>561706148
Ogryn 2.0 soon

I'm annoyed the skittii doesn't have a mechadendrite. I don't know if they normally get those or not, but it's something I would have liked for Admech.
>what would it even do
Fuck if I know I'm not the game designer. I'd say let it pick up crafting materials near you automatically or something, but a lot of people don't even need those anymore.

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>>561706279
What would Sister's blitz's be?
>Melta Bomb
Probably more damage but is compensated by being in melee range.
>A version of Frag Grenade
>Holy water?

>>561706431
Beastmen would actually have soul to it and be more unique just in terms of aesthetics alone, instead of making another religious nutjob.

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>>561706614
>What would Sister's blitz's be?
>>Melta Bomb
>hey, lets take veteran krak grenade but make it retardedly more OP, and combine it with the ogryn nuke
Yeah, that's what this game needs.
Another fucking screen wipe that just destroys everything on screen before you even get to fight it.

>>561706614
>What would Sister's blitz's be?
Melta Bomb as you described
>Phosphor Grenade
Probably a their version of the Zealots fire grenade but instead of leaving a carpet of fire it just it just does more damage while burning
>Holy Hand Grenade (Frag Grenade but slightly different).

>>561706614
I was going to suggest how a melta bomb could work but it was just going to be Scum rocket but thrown, or Krak+immolation after-effect. I guess that laziness makes it more possible.

>>561706976
>>hey, lets take veteran krak grenade but make it retardedly more OP, and combine it with the ogryn nuke
Meltabomb would have much shorter range than Krak and much less damage than an Ogryn nuke.

>>561707012
>Probably a their version of the Zealots fire grenade but instead of leaving a carpet of fire it just it just does more damage while burning
This would be fun if it was an instant exploding grenade that just does more burst damage than a incendiary but loses out on the flame carpet.
Seems fun and genuinely balanced. Literally just the sisters version of the Skitarii's new phosphor blast capsul but with just fire instead of the fancy new status.

>>561706614
>Servo-skull gimmick
Dang I was hoping there would be an option for Skitarii to change their augments like in lore.
Oh well, I guess that means that Sisters gimmick will either be miracles or a cherub.

>>561707324
>Shredder grenade but fire
believably mediocre

>>561707103
Could be sick if Meltabomb gave the enemy a durability debuff too. Would be perfect for fighting a boss. And would make up for having to be in the enemies face to use it.

>>561706701
>>561706431
That’s assuming FS does it right of course. I would prefer for them to not just copy and paste the Vermintide models and stuff.
>>561706594
Skitarii can have whatever their Priests deem appropriate for them. I do hope we get some ‘dendrites too.

>>561706148
I used to post about sister repentia could be in and I am glad skitari is allegedly being added in because I don’t want a female only DLC class

>>561705932
After the flop that was Hive Scum Fatshark needs to recoup their losses with a Skitarii and Sister of Battle classes.
>>561707540
Shredder nades don't explode on impact.

>>561707794
>After the flop that was Hive Scum Fatshark needs to recoup their losses with a Skitarii and Sister of Battle classes.
They're bother guaranteed to sell extremely well. And Sisters have the benefit of only needing to hire 3 voice actors instead of six.

I think Skitarii will be a single gender class, like Ogryn and SoB

>>561706279
>Arbite [sic]
>two threads in a row
retard

>>561708047
Why? Skitarii recruit from both men and women.
>But ogryn
There are no female ogryn models
>>561708063
Would you say Arbite is Ogryn 2.0 then?

>>561706279
Scum, and Skitarii are Vet 2,0, and Vet 3.0
Arbite is Ogryn 2.0
Sister would be Zealot 2.0
Rogue Psyker would be Psyker 2.0

>>561708248
"Arbite" is not a word you fucking retard. Arbites is not the plural to arbite. Dumb fuck.

>>561708461
>this autistic

>>561708543
>makes completely illiterate, retarded mistake
>um ur autistic
Kill yourself you fucking retard.

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>>561708248
Because with their augments, they all look and sound the same. So theres no need for the gender option.
And because there are no female Skitarii models.

>>561708390
Arbitrator (I don't care how you spell it I just don't want to set off the autist) is both Vet 2.0 and Ogryn 2.0
Scum is straight up just Vet 3.0
And Skitarii looks to be just Vet 4.0
Sister class if added would be a mix of Vet 5.0 and Zealot 2.0

>>561708790
>this is what complete and utter dogshit deadweight useless vetsissies unironically think
Veteran remains the king of shooty classes. Nobody can hold a candle to vet's shootiness. You literal sub-humans just can't play the class and think
>class that can shoot and is tanky = better fet
because you fucking suck.
Shut the fuck up, you are too bad at the class to even have any input, malicenigger.

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>>561708702
But the female Tech Priests and female Skitarii officer in Mechancius game have female sounded binaric voices.

>>561708994
>Veteran remains the king of shooty classes. Nobody can hold a candle to vet's shootiness.
The Skitarii so far looks shootier than Vet thoughbeit.
And the shooty class is Psyker anyway.
>Shut the fuck up, you are too bad at the class to even have any input, malicenigger.
Calm down sir.

>>561709005
Yes but we're gonna be playing as run of the mill basic bitch skittles, not officers. And again, femskits have no models.

>>561709232
People having been simping for Hadron since day 1. If Fatshark doesn't give the option for female Skitarii voices there will be riots in the streets of Norway.

>>561707751
If we do get SoB they will be the last class added for this specific reason. There are a lot of male gamers who will refuse to play or buy SoB because they will not play as a woman. Their dlc careers for Sienna and Kirellian were the least selling of the lot.

>>561709403
I think most will settle on hadron calling them her special little cogchamp desu

>>561709143
>The Skitarii so far looks shootier than Vet thoughbeit.
Could be. Or maybe the supposed datamine/leak is complete bullshit and everyone is falling for an elaborate ruse. Until I learn a source, I won't trust it.
>And the shooty class is Psyker anyway.
Psyker is good at shooting, but still nowhere near as good as vet. You don't bring a psyker into havoc 40 so he can spam his fucking shock staff leftclick. You do bring a vet to shoot shooters.
>Calm down sir.
No, fuck off. You dumbfuck vetshitters keep spouting the same utter retardation about
>x is better vet!
>y does vet better than vet!
when the issue is that it happens in YOUR HANDS because YOU FUCKING SUCK.
If you somehow think that arbitrator is unironically better than vet at doing vet things, you need to get your already malformed skull caved in a second time, apparently getting dropped on your head as a child wasn't enough. Retard.

>>561706614
Half the replies on that post are quite funny. People pretending it's actually good stuff when it's obviously all just copypasted shit from other classes but renamed and reskinned
Fatshark could shit out anything and feces eaters would suck it right up

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>>561709232
>femskits have no models.
They have models its just the femskits look exactly the same as manskiits

>>561709964
I think the weapons could make up for it.

>>561710054
Can Skitarii become Tech Priest?

>>561710358
No, the wheat already got separated from the chaff at the point you've become a skittari.

>>561710358
Yes they can don't listen to that anon, its uncommon but Skitarii very much can be promoted to be a low level tech priest and potentially move up from there.

>>561710479
Post sources, wish fulfilment fag.

>>561710427
Skitarii can become tech priests. Its rare but it can and does happen.

>>561710563
Subdomina Khepra used to be a Skitarii. Also just google it Skitarii can rarely become a Tech Priest.

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Expedition is weird.
I am unironically considering using the VAG on zealot for sniping reapers.
Picrel does really good work shooting reapers beyond 30 meters. Consistently hits ~2k DPS. The only issue is keeping the crosshair on target between bursts, but you get used to it.
>why not bolt pistol
Ammo efficiency mostly.
>why this mark and not the single shot one
Ammo efficiency, again. Although that will need more testing.

This is mostly psykhanium theorycrafting. I'll have to put this to the test in some actual auric expedition games when I'm not about to go to sleep.
Still contemplating whether maniacs is optimal, but killing bombers faster probably is. Else I'll likely put flak to kill scab gunners faster.

Open to other suggestions.
I've tried sniping with the boltgun, and while swap cancelling with knives feels really good, the damage certainly doesn't. Zealot isn't much of a shooty class.
I've tried las pistol, which, while pretty good with this much crit, and theoretically an unyielding rape gun, it's... not that impressive in practice. And the low stagger makes it annoying to use against trappers.
I'd default to combat shotgun, but that isn't super amazing against reapers down range either. Even with slugs.

>>561710961
Khepra is a skitarri, not a priest. And I'm sure you can find some retards on reddit saying they can become techpriests. Doesn't change that in lore it doesn't happen.

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>>561549817
>>561560926
>>561561254
>>561561087
It is either going to be a Sicarian Ruststalkers or Ruststalker will be a branch of the tree for a generic Skiitari. Since they are Skiitari but have been mindraped into assassins for Tech Priests: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sicarian_Ruststalker

>>561711289
Khepra is a Skitarii turned Tech Priest. She is a subdominus which is a type of Tech Priest.

>>561711289
Anon Subdominus is Tech-priest classification.

Anyone else keep getting disconnected from the servers in Darktide?
EU servers probably.

>>561711392
>>561711530
Subdominus is not and has never been a tech-priest position. I honestly don't understand how you got confused like this.

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>>561711334
Probably gonna be a branch. I'm thinking the Skitarii's subtree's will be
>Rust Stalker
>Ranger
>Vanguard

>>561711690
I haven't had a single issue anyone else has had in this game. Memory crash. Abandoned game. Failed Evacuation. Nothing. I am the Chosen One (of farthsart servers).

>>561711821
WHO CARES. Skitarii can still become Tech-Priests and you can't prove otherwise.

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>No Halberd weapon for the Skitarii
Sigh I guess a Sister of Battle class really is my only hope for a Halberd in this game.

>>561712149
Since they decided to add Skitarii instead of Tech Priest. Sister of battle is quite literally the only way to get a Halbard weapon in Darktide.

>>561711987
I can and I have. Cry about it, shit up the whole thread about it. You've been intellectually dominated.

>>561711334
>>561711829
Between Electro Priests and these, i think they have some good options for skill trees, let’s hope they don’t squander them

>>561712439
fuck off

>>561712262
Do we know for sure it is a Skitarri and not a Tech-Priest?

>>561549817
>Powermaul P3
>Powersword P3
Powermaul P3 is either a Arbitrator weapon or a Sisters weapon.
And Powersword P3 is either a Skitarii weapon or a Sisters weapon.

>>561712565
The ability in this post >>561706614
says >Skitarii Protocol
And Tech Priests don't use Transonic weapons. Only Skitarii do.

>>561711231
I also considered using vag but then I changed difficulty to malice like everyone else
I did my fair share of aurics on all characters and this game is just way too unbalanced for a mode that throws tons of ranged elites at you in open spaces.
If you want ammo efficiency, consider the heavy mark of infantry las with efficiency and opening salvo blessings. I don't think autoguns have good ammo economy.

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What is equivalent to a Skitarii's power level in warhammer lore/

>>561713207
They're on the level of Tempestus Scions, Kasrkin, and Sisters of Battle

>>561713207
A SoB, more or less. More elite than guard, but not by a lot in the grand scheme of things.

>>561713336
>>561713376
These. Also Arbitrators too. So really Skitarii are in line with Veteran class in Darktide. With Ogryn and Psyker being the stronger classes lore wise.

>>561713473
I'd argue an Arbite is more elite than either a Sister or a Skittle. They represent their whole own wing of the Adeptus Terra, while Skitarri are just the soldiery of the Cult Mechanicus. Sisters exist in a more complicated space, but their basic member ranks lower than an Arbite.

>>561713893
They're more elite in terms of influence but in terms of combat prowess they're equivalent.

At this point its obvious they're gonna add a Sisters of Battle class but I think they're also gonna eventually add a Comissar class. Might as well get everyone from the Schola Progenium in this game.

>>561714124
But...but dont we already have one?

>They're adding Skitarii to the game
Rejectfags in shambles.

>>561714293 (me)
I read it too quickly, and made a judgment, ignore plz

>>561714431
Remember that one anon who kept starting arguments with Skitarii and Sisters hopers and kept saying their power level was "too high" for this game?
Kek.

>>561714719
i cant even fathom being such a pretentious secondary to claim shit like this while we slaughter BoN's by the dozen

>>561714974
Real

>>561713336
Kasrkin are above all of those. They’re the very peak of Imperial infantry they can field before getting into stuff like Marines and Assasins.
>>561714974
Burgles are not consistent in power level and neither is any of the other Chaos stuff we fight. Also we’re buffed by Emperor shenanigans so we’re not just plowing through stuff on our own either.

>>561709232
Who says that we'll be a skitarii and not some low ranking tech priest initiate or engineseer?

>>561715848
Nigga it has an ability called Skitarii Protocol

>>561715848
Moron

>>561715848
1) A low ranking Tech-Priest is still higher rank than a Skitarii
2) The ability says Skitarii protocal
3) Only Skitarii use Transonic weaponry

>>561715896
>>561715984
>>561716090
FWIW, this is the first time that I've entered one of these threads in like 6 months and I didn't get the memo. I thought everyone was still just wishful thinking that fatshit would ever give us a mechanicus character.

>>561716228
tbf the leak only happened a few hours ago

>>561716228
Understandable, but nah some of its abilities and weapons have been datamined, it's 1000% a Skitarii

>>561716267
>>561716346
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed that it's skitarii since it's so similar to veteran. A tech priest would give it room to be less soldier-man. Oh well, at least it's something.

>>561715783
>also we're buffed by-
unless you have concrete proof that is always just a cope excuse to try and explain the rule of cool bs away
if anything our morons are named characters
anyways, nothing is ever consistent in warhammer, we could get terminators as field bosses or have a plague marine be a map boss that we barely survive, it all depends on whatever fatsharks pseudowriters feel like at the time

>>561716550
Personally I'm happy its Skitarii because it means Sisters of Battle are more possible.

Will any of these DLC weapons become available to the base classes like in Vermintide?

>>561716720
Now I'm getting disheartened because the mechanicus class probably won't get an omnissian axe and I was hoping for big fuckoff 2H weapons. I don't think skitarri use omnissian axes. Those are a mark of office for the tech priests I think.

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>>561716856
pffffffft

>>561716582
The “proof” is that we don’t instantly die when we’re doused in Nurgle vomit juice or swallowed by Burgles or any other number of things that happens to us that in other sources have been shown to be fatal to regular people and that we literally have a character who can call on the Emperor’s essence to repel the enemies we face and that we have a Psyker who’s in active communication with the Emperor himself.
>nothing is ever consistent in warhammer
Not really. Lots of stuff is consistent. And daemons and all Chaos related stuff being inconsistent by their very nature is very consistent. That’s not to say that FS/GW can’t do or justify whatever it wants, but that there is an internal logic to this that can’t just be blanket applied willy nilly to everything.

>>561711829
I don't think Skitarii Vanguard will be a subclass because lore wise they're supposed to be radioactive.
The 3 subclasses will be Skitarii Marshal, Skitarii Ranger, and Skitarii Ruststalker.

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I just found out about the Skitarii stuff. If they put in an AdMech level with it and have Jesper make a new song for the level that's at least trying to ape Mechanicus (OR EVEN BETTER, HAVE GUILLAUME MAKE A SONG FOR THE LEVEL), then I am gonna have to change my recommendation for the game.

>>561717302
that's just proof that we're playing a videogame and are, again, just named characters
same shit applies to the teams in SM2

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>>561716971
>and I was hoping for big fuckoff 2H weapons.
Yeah the only way we'll get a Halberd in Darktide is for Sister of Battle.

>>561716856
No class other than Skitarii will ever use a Transonic weapon. The leaked Power Paul, and leaked Power Sword could either be for an existing class, Sister of Battle, or for Skitarii (except for Power Maul).

>>561717514
Guess Sister is gonna be the class I'm buying. I'll buy Skitarii too but I just really want a Halberd.

>>561717361
I am very surprised it seems like they are going for Ruststalker over Vanguard. Maybe they didn't want to completely invalidate the Zealot? I am not totally complaining though. A new melee weapon type with Transonic blades is fucking KINO.

>>561717436
But it doesn’t. It’s internal justification for why these things happen. Named video game characters don’t all actively communicate with the Emperor or use Emperor flavored magic.

>>561717778
Its probably just gonna be generic skitarii with a rustalker subclass. Also Vanguards are radioactive and would likely condemn the other non skitarii party members to a painful death just by being near them.

>>561717514
That other anon wasn't me, but I am disappointed. One of my biggest gripes about darktide was that I don't care for 1H melee weapons. All of my favorites, with a few exceptions like saltz's rapier or sienna's dagger, were big meaty 2H weapons. I did not care for the absence and lack of power of 2H weapons in shopclick. Granted my experience with shopclick's meta is outdated since the last time that I played was when they introduced those twin officers, but the few times that I've poked my head in here people have told me that the meta was more in favor of the stupid repetitive motion injury toothpicks.

>>561718014
Zealot has a 2-handed power sword, evsicerator, and a thunder hammer

>>561717645
Surely the vet or someone could use the dual pistols that Scummy has, right?

>>561718183
I don't think Fatshark would take away Scum's few unique stuff

>>561717892
Yeah, and Nurgle ass juice is just as bad. Vanguard should exist, especially because I'll bet dollars to donuts that we get Rad-rifles.

>>561718107
Like I said, my experience with the balance and metagame are woefully out of date. But the eviscerator and thunder hammer were garbage tier back when I last played, and nobody had a 2H powersword yet.

>>561718234
I think the lore reason for why the nurgle stuff doesn't kill is injections and medical attention.

>>561718332
tbf the Thunder hammer still sucks, the Eviscerator is decent, and the 2-handed Power Sword (relic blade) is Zealots best melee weapon.

>>561718394
You'll never guess what you do to treat radiation...

>>561718507
I'm sad to hear that about the Thunder hammer. The 2H hammer was such a dependable mainstay in ratclick.

>>561715783
Karskin are just elite Cadians. They are described as on the level of Scions.

>>561718228
Ok fair, but Arbites took crusher from zealot, I just want some sharing from the dlc too so the base classes aren't starving for new weapons permanently while fatshark shifts focus to paid classes.

>>561718610
The psyker has a great 2handed melee weapon. the 2handed force sword.

>>561718507
They need to release a modified T. Hammer that works like an inverse Relic Blade. There is a heat gauge on it once activated, the higher the gauge, the more damage it does before getting exhausted. This way you are rewarded for keeping it constantly activated. The Big Boom like the current T. Hammer could be a blessing %chance to activate once it is past a certain heat threshold and that automatically exhausts the meter so you have to wait for it cool down again. Not ideal, but I think that's a decentish compromise/solution to not having a delete button.

>>561718770
I'll give the relic blade and that force sword a try when I re-install. I'm going to be busy for a while but I'll definitely re-install for a mechanicus character.

I don't get the plasma gun.

>>561718883
I think you'll really like the 2H force sword. If you've played Fromsoft games like Dark Souls and Elden Ring its just like the Moonlight Greatsword.

>>561719064
The plasma gun was changed so now its good to charge it.
>>561718883
The ogryn Pickaxe's are also fun 2H weapons.

>>561716550
I am glad it is a Skitarii because I like making Vets seethe. Every time they seethe on the forums, it brings a tear to my eye.

>>561715783
Kasrkin are just Tempestus Scions for Cadians.

Skitarii and Sister of Battle are the last chances for Fatshark to create a larger and stable playerbase. So they need to add more maps and shit with those classes because they're the only way they're gonna get mass new players and mass returning players in.

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Imagine... Imagine if they gave it to the Skitarii. The wealth of amazing weapon choices here, it's like reverse Ganger in that they genuinely cannot pick a bad weapon to give the class.

>>561719506
Skitarii is going to absolutely blow the fuck up. AdMech players are THE BIGGEST PAYPIGS per capita. I would know, because I am one. We are constantly starved for content, and we bray for new shit like SM players do (except it's deserved). Skitarii are always a favorite of almost every single AdMech player to the extent that they were close to declaring a Jihad on GW when they announced the Skitarii Battle-Pilgryms for 30k and then told us that we don't get to use them in 40k.

>>561717892
just eat your iodine pills, pussy

>>561719515
the weapons were already leaked he gets not-powersword and not-powermaul and if ur lucky he gets a radgun (NOT a reskinned plasma gun, dont even suggest it)

>>561719832
Skits will get the unnerfed plasma gun.

i just want a lightning gun like its killzone 2

>>561719064
see enemy? shoot enemy
see big enemy? charge, then shoot enemy
see enemy behind crowd/cover? charge, then shoot enemy
get used to delayed shot through practice
reload whenever you can during down moments
bring quick melee te run away if you need to
don't charge at 100% or you blow up and die
dump charge rate
put gets hot/rising heat/blaze away
put maniac flak

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>>561719515
>they genuinely cannot pick a bad weapon to give the class.
You're a hundred years too young to be making easy challenges like this, anon...

>>561719832
Nice cope. We know he gets those weapons, and the transonic blade. But your claim that he gets no additional weapons is hilarious seething cope.

>>561720050
Skitarii has that depending on how FS implements it, and if they choose to give it to him since Arc weapons are one of the trio of main weapon types Skitarii have available to them.

>>561720392
Just look at the Skitarii approved weapons that GW would sign off on. They're all great, there isn't a single bad pick in there. Whether or not they make them good is a different story, but they are all a trillion times more interested than "crowbar".

>>561720551
lmao
you're setting yourself up for disappointment retard, this is fatshark

>>561719270
>>561720134
Maniac/flak? What about the carapace for crushers? Also what does the charged shot do now? I thought the main difference was the cleave to deal with multiple targets while still allowing the normal shot to be the usual against lone enemies.

>>561711829
I sure hope so. As much as I love the idea of the transonic melee weapons, I really want to be a ranged glass canon Skiitari.

The talents have already been found btw see here
>>561706614

>>561722430
No proof

>>561719832
Yeah, it's pretty obvious at this point that all future content will just be re-engineered existing content with a fresh paintjob. I wonder what the fuck they're doing over there that they lost the technical skill to program new things into their own games.

Couldn't someone just look in the files to see if the leaked skill tree is real? Like, its lazy enough to be real, but lets just make sure

>>561723131
You won't believe anything anyone posts unless you look it up yourself

>>561723131
It's not in the files

>>561722837
If rumors are to be believed they lost most of their staff (or at least key members) to rival companies which would cripple any video game company
>>561718664
No they’re not. Most sources describe them as the cream of the crop. Their showings in lore certainly outclass Stromtrooper ones as well
>>561719384
They’re the equivalent yes, but they’re far superior.

Release the Skitariistein files

>>561720891
Cry more. I am going to be shooting heretics with radiation bullets.

>>561722430
It doesn't matter if these are fake or not simply because Fatshark loves money, meaning the class will be OP out the gate no matter what.

>>561719738
You guys should be asking for more Dark Mechanicum shit. Those guys are cool as fuck and deserve way more content.

>>561723775
>using radiation against nurgle worhippers
The only thing a Skitarii vanguard would be killing with those is their fellow teammates through radiation exposure. You will get Arc Rifles and you will like it.

>>561723946
It does matter if we're getting interesting shit or just
>activate high damage mode

>>561724275
evidently not because this whole general loved hive scum

>>561724621
>this whole general loved hive scum
Retard

>>561724275
People only care how good a class feels, not how many things you need to manage. Ask any Ogryn player if they would rather have more complex systems or simply more effective ones.

>>561724808
Ogryns are not admech. You shouldn't expect the simple and straightforward class to be the same as the high tech super soldier class

>>561724751
He is objectively right. Scum was beloved when it came after people saw how, actually, it was fun as fuck to kill shit with dualies. The only critique of the class was that it was broken (it was - both in good and bad), and some of the more interesting weapons (ex. Bone Saw) being severely undertuned. This is really the biggest proof that people give less of a shit about interesting things if they are bad (in comparison) rather than simpler, stronger things. Autopistols, Needle Pistol, and Shivs made everyone happy.

>>561724621
Why would you lie like that? The first week the scum released the thread was filled with anguish over every lobby just being full of scum.

>>561724962
I don't expect anything from Fatshark concerning this class beyond:
>sticking to GW approved weapons
>wear cloaks
>being OP

>>561725146
Because it's a glass cannon and most shitters (re: this general) cannot carry.

>>561725247
>it's a glass cannon
It was literally broken on launch and had no toughness regeneration if you picked hyper critical

>>561725340
>describes a glass cannon
waow.

It doesn't matter if it was insanely squishy because Fatshark are retarded/cannot code, it was always going to be squishy, and even thought it was super squishy it absolutely shit out damage.

>>561725485
It wasn't just "a glass cannon" it was broken, dumb fuck

>>561719832
>Radgun
You mean the GOOD OL' PLASMA GUN?

>>561725146
Why would you not fucking read what the conversation is about? People love hive scum because it's OP, both here and anywhere else
it doesn't matter if all the mechanics are just "x but better" the average player just wants some OP shit

>>561725772
You're a retard if you don't think people will be disappointed if the admech class doesn't have anything interesting beyond being OP

>>561724097
>using radiation against nurgle worhippers
Nothing wrong with that. Radiation in 40k at high enough levels can outright melt things into sludge. Don’t know if that’s the case in real life but that’s what the AdMech can do with it. It’s not like they can’t just come up with an excuse like “Oh Hadron modified it and now you won’t all die from being in proximity to them :^)”.

>>561726104
radiation would just set things on fire, spontaneous combustion

>>561725870
The majority of people don't give a shit they just want to buy the epic voicelines and have strong weapons
I would prefer new mechanics and actually fresh things too but they're not gonna do that

>>561725870
You do not understand the AdMech's core base. Expect to see a bunch of new players (or very old players that stopped after the first month), and all of them cooming their pants at the possibility of playing as a Skitarii. Those same people ARE NOT interested in complex systems. They interested in making sure the Skitarii has a hooded, red cloak to wear (with white gear trim), is strong, and at least some of the weapons from the table-top. You don't know AdMech players, they will buy and play anything with AdMech in it. This general, and 4chan at large, does not represent the whole. You are going to tie your panties into a knot when the class comes out, it's straight forward but very strong, and everyone goes "10/10 You did it again, Todd!" The people who Fatshark are trying to appeal to want AdMech content, the form it takes doesn't particularly matter beyond whether or not it feels good/strong to do something.

>>561726531
Not an answer, retard

What's on the table for types of guys to be added to darktide? I play but know nothing about 40k

>>561726660
Completely idiotic prediction. People will obviously be significantly more excited for a class that has new and interesting mechanics than they would be for one with old and uninteresting ones

>>561726291
Flamestick 2

>>561726797
After SoB I think everyone is out of solid ideas that aren't just iterations on something that already exists or scraping the barrel. I remember before Scum came out that a bunch of people wanted Tempestus Scions, which is just the Vet with better weapons and armor. Could they do that? Yeah, they are typically tied to Inquisitorial retinues. But you could just do that with the Vet by giving him the weapons. Still... they could do it. Votann could also be done. It'd be weird, but it's possible. Ratlings to finally just make people shut up.

>>561726682
You didn't ask a question you actual downie

>>561726798
Screencapping this for when Darktide's player reception goes up, the playercount skyrockets well past Arbites, and the number of people saying this is the greatest thing to ever happen drowns out "BUT IT'S NOT INTERESTING BAWWWW" posts here, on the forums, on the Discord, on the subreddit, and on the Steam forums. You do not matter, you never mattered.

>>561726797
Possibly an Eldar corsair, but that's an extremely long shot

>>561727221
Mb. I meant to ask if you were retarded and you actually did answer with a yes

>>561727225
And yet the interest would have been more if the class was more interesting. You're resorting to some seriouslt retarded cope just to avoid admitting that interesting stuff is more interesting

>>561727739
Cope you seething nigger, 90% of the playerbase gives 0 fucks about unique mechanics they love hive scum because it can oneshot 8 crushers with boombringer

>>561727965
>>561727912
Blow it out your fronthole, spastic

>>561727912
Nobody is saying that you retarded nigger, of course it would please the fewer, more discerning players
But putting in 20% effort and budget to please 80% of the playerbase is more cost effective

You are obnoxiously retarded btw. These are super simple concepts

>>561728075
Exactly. This is why like 95% of frames in Warframe go untouched beyond leveling it for mastery. You can make the frame's system as interesting or in line with its theme as you want, if it's ass, no one gives a fuck. The entire reason shit like Helminth exists was to try and get players to diversify what they use. There are 64 frames in Warframe currently (not counting Primes), and of that roughly a dozen account for nearly the entire playerbase.

>>561728075
>These are super simple concepts
I've got a concept so simple that only a retard like you could fail to understand it
Interesting stuff = interesting
>80% 20%
This isn't a yes or no vote, mongoloid. You are far too retarded to be arguing with me about this

>>561728506
>he still doesnt get it
jesus man, you're a lost cause
if most people buy it anyways cause its strong they dont care about making it interesting

>>561728506
Does Fatshark frequently demonstrate to you that they will do the absolute bare minimum required to get you to play their game? Yes or no.

>>561728697
>>561728675
This is a question of whether they "should "make it interesting, not whether "they" will make it interesting

I know that your deepest jungles of africa tier IQs makes it hard for you, but you should still try to keep up before piping up, fucking retards

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>he still doesn't get it

>>561726798
>People will obviously be significantly more excited for a class that has new and interesting mechanics than they would be for one with old and uninteresting ones
No? The average retard just buys the dlc classes to run through maps while being unkillable or while having infinite ammo and then quits at the slightest nerf
>but they could put in extra effort to please the triple digit iq playerbase, too!
too niche, not worth the effort

>>561728982
Take the L, dumbfuck

>>561726797
There’s really not many options left. At least, not ones that aren’t in a similar vein to Hive Scum, I.e. classes that are really similar to others. I could see Beastman for the reason that they’re probably willing to reuse the models from Vermintide.
>>561727114
Votann are a distinct possibility tok depending on how hard GW feels like pushing them. The problem is giving them enough to make them play and feel unique but we know that’s a non concern for them at this point.

>>561728910
nobody asked if they should the discussion was about whether they would
of course they should make a better game you midwit. you think THAT is the point of contention? lmao you think people have been telling you that they want the class to be low effort trash?

>>561729028
You are on your own here, man. There is at least three people telling you the reality of the situation is that interesting mechanics are less good than strong (yet boring) mechanics to the average player. You want, very badly for the mechanics to be interesting because you want (very badly) to be competent. You don't want to admit that the playerbase doesn't care about interesting, and you don't want to admit that Fatshark is incompetent.

People only care if something feels "good". "Good" to the vast majority of players means effectiveness. Effectiveness in DT means strength. Strength means ability to kill and be unkillable. The simpler the systems are for players to stroke the dopamine button in their brain, the happier they are going to be.

Everyone here would like a better game, a more interesting game, a game with greater variety. What you aren't grasping for some reason, despite being directly exposed to it probably hundreds of times by now across different games you've played, is that your desire for those things so long as the player gets their dopamine rush. Especially when you consider the developer, when you consider their habits, when you consider how they tend to approach development and implementation. And finally: when you consider the playerbase. This isn't a discerning playerbase. If you think it is, ask yourself a simple question:

Why don't people use the more complex melee weapons (i.e. the ones with more "interesting" movesets), and instead always gravitate toward the simpler ones? Why? Why do you think they do this?

>>561729492
holy fuck you actually STILL don't get it.
Nobody is talking about quality, everyone is telling you that quality doesn't make their budget bigger and their budget is
>low effort shit
because most people buy it anyway

>>561729581
Wrong dude, man. Calm down. I am telling the other guy that his desire to have things be interesting is not ideal for the average consumer. The average consumer wants CoD, not ARMA, and we're all on the same team here trying to tell him that.

>>561729740
My bad I skipped through and thought you were the guy refusing to acknowledge quality doesn't mean proportional sales (his posts aren't worth reading)

>>561729178
Good job on finally conceding. That wasn't so hard, now, was it?
>>561729492
Didn't ask for your life story, retard
>>561729581
>so mad that you are lashing out at random retards
Sperg

>>561729969
Why don't people use the more complex melee weapons (i.e. the ones with more "interesting" movesets), and instead always gravitate toward the simpler ones?

>>561729969
>still doesn't get it
I'm starting to believe you are mentally ill to the point of upkeeping a point you now understand was wrong
or you're so mentally retarded that you actually still think fatshark putting in effort is a guarantee because a small minority of the playerbase likes it

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>25 damage and light stagger
waow

>>561730013
Because they obviously also have to be good, are you retarded?

>>561730217
So players gravitate toward simpler, less interesting things if it means they get the same (or better) outcome?

>>561730063
>actually still think fatshark putting in effort is a guarantee
Never said this
You're like a retarded nigger not understanding why i don't "get it" when you keep telling me you DID have breakfast this morning

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>>561730368
Which means you shouldn't make the boring and uninteresting shit the meta like some retards here are suggesting

Good talk. Glad you finally reached this conclusion

>>561730514
No one said that, ever. You are projecting.

GIMME SKITUSSY NAMES NOW

>>561730579
Stop using words you don't understand. It doesn't make you sound smarter

>>561718573
Sex with Hadron.

>>561730661
Mister-Hadron

>>561730379
>Never said this

Convo went
>it doesn't matter if all the mechanics are just "x but better" the average player just wants some OP shit
>You're a retard if you don't think people will be disappointed if the admech class doesn't have anything interesting beyond being OP
You claimed the average player cares, you are wrong

Got that retard? You're not only insufferable, you're also retarded. The worst combination of traits

>>561730985
Dude, enough. You are completely lost in this converaation because you are too retarded to keep track. Do yourself a favor and take the L, wipe your tears and fuck off

>>561730985
retard

>>561731123
>point out the exact part of the convo where you tried to claim the average retard cares about quality
>n-no I didn't mean that!
backpedaling is a win for me, enjoy your loss retard. No more (You)s for my loser backpedaling little lolcow

>players won't appreciate cool mechanics
Good job justifying fatshark's laziness

I swear, this general is overflowing with retards

>>561731573
stating the truth is justifying nothing

>>561731478
No, you having a retarded opinion that conflicts with my correct opinion does not make my opinion wrong no matter how long your tantrum lasts

>>561730661
Enginseer-Gaysex-8

>>561731573
I notice retards often take factual business dynamics as defenses of them. Like you can tell them that jews do X because Y and they'll go
>WOW WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING THAT?

>>561731597
Here's a hypothetical situation, i know browns like you usually don't understand hypotheticals but just try this once

>fatshark releases something boring and uninteresting
>you ask them why
>fatshark then justifies it by saying that players don't appreciate fun and interesting things
Your own logic makes their justification completely valid because it means they are just catering to their playerbase

>>561732096
>>fatshark releases something boring and uninteresting
>>you ask them why
>>fatshark then justifies it by saying that players don't appreciate fun and interesting things
It is completely valid for them as a business even if I don't like it. What is your hangup?

>>561731961
>why do you make red widgets instead of blue widgets
>because 80% of my buyers want red widgets and we have a limited production capacity

>>561732280
Assuming you're retarded enough to think it's true in the first place. In reality you're just making retarded assumptions while also justifying their laziness and incompetence

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>mfw only irreplaceable/non overlapping class is psyker
wtf psykerbros we win?

>>561732439
Welcome to the real world buddy. Sometimes businesses do things that are bad for the game because the bottom line ends up better.

>>561732513
All of fatshark's success comes from the fact that their combat is more interesting and has more depth than in comparable games

>>561732475
>me rolling up with the early 2027 Unsanctioned Psyker class

>>561732693
The DLC classes being low effort copypasted shit doesn't actually change that. It hasn't for arbites and hive scum, both of them caused massive player spikes which suggests lots of sales.

>>561732693
Yeah this is literally it. The core gameplay is a diamond in a SEA of rough. Holy shit this game was not even fully functional on launch.

>>561708248
>Why?
Because skitarii outwarldy do not present any secondary sexual characteristics at all. They all look practically identical from the outside.

So literally fuck all reason to be adding a gender option, let alone make voices for it.
Also there's like 70% chance that all skittle voices are synthesized to hell and back, and 1 of them will probably be the "incomprehensible scifi computer noise babble" trope as a voice option

>>561732965
One of the voices better be like the lohner medicae station displaying selfawareness

>>561709005
>But the female Tech Priests
And we aren't getting to play as techpriests, we are bottom rung faceless footsoldiers who die by the thousands.
Female techpriests, and techpriests in general, look the way they do and can have some sex appeal, is because they are much higher ranking, superior officers compared to the average skittles and actually can AFFORD customizing their appearance and aren't bogged done by as much rigorous restrictions.

It's literally the same as a difference between a regular, basic bitch guardsman grunt and then a imperial guard colonel.

So the skill tree is probably fake, but the weapons are probably real. I bet the special gimmick will be augments

>>561732693
Reminder that the darktide combat design lead left and made his own studio
https://www.discogaragegames.com/portfolio/

>>561707154
Not against bosses. It being a boss deleter would be great. Anything Unyielding would be vaporized like a child wondering why there was a second sun in Hiroshima.

>>561707154
>but shorter range
And regardless it'll be a ogryn nuke that destroys everything caught up in it.
It'll quite literally just be the Scum rocket shit and veteran kraks and ogryn nuke all over again.
And knowing these swedoids if they make the sister class, that bitch gets to carry like 2 or 3 of these melta bombs, and the class probably gets grenade regen too, like arby and bet, because why not make it more retardedly OP that'll make Havocs into a cakewalk and ruin any semblance of challenge in aurics.

>>561733379
Skitarii aren't lobotomized. They just have remote controls in their brains that allow the Tech-Priests nearby control them like an RTS. We see this very thing happen in the book Skitarius where the Dominus is literally engaging in a planet wide game of DoW against Iron Warriors all while he's in space.

>>561732817
Now imagine how large the spike would have been if it most players didn't dislike it and if it wasn't sitting on mostly negative reviews
>b-but people love boring op stuff!
Retards

>>561734175
Doesn't matter what you or I want, Fatshark business analysts decided it's not worth the risk, so it wasn't done and remained low effort.

>>561734331
>business analyst: make shitty content
Now you're making up increasingly stupid shit just so you can keep doubling down on being wrong and retarded

>>561734075
They often are to a degree. One of the procedures to be turned into a skitarii is to cut out some parts of your brain.
You will still, hopefully, retain most of your personality but you will be "diminished" for a lack of a better word.

>>561734976
>diminished
Enhanced!

>>561734976
Man, you can cut out a lot of the brain and have next to no changes. You probably know what a hemispherectomy is. And you probably know that you can remove almost half of a person's brain should you need to and they'll experience very little diminishment beyond motor function.

>>561735123
Sounds like cope from someone who only has half a brain

>>561734483
>business analyst: make shitty content
Unironically yes, we live in a post-enjoyment society and the devs only listen to retarded suits anymore who want to maximize profit instead of delivering a good product
Solo mode was confirmed to be one week from being ready for release but they're not allowed to release it for business strategy reasons

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Is running Rodin around while your team deals with Rinda worth it?
Not sure if I griefed my team by not helping them or if they are just retarded

>>561735390
Blow up the bombs and break his shield
I hope you weren't just running away like a retard

>>561730661
TussySlurper69

>>561735123
>you can remove almost half of a person's brain should you need to and they'll experience very little diminishment
Just cutting off the small "bridge" of neural tissue (where the actual term lobotomy came from) in the brain that connects the 2 hemispheres, was and has been proven decades ago, to drastically to change people who got it. And not often for the better, btw they did it as a way to "cure" epilepsy, and yeah it worked in some cases.
But as a price that person in practise wasn't fit to take care of themselves anymore.
You removing HALF of a brain from a fully developed person is going to turn them at best into a bumbling idiot, and at worst into a mute vegetable for their entire life

There is a reason why you do NOT fuck with the brain, shit's extremely fragile, and the reason why even modern brain surgery despite the advancements is not taken lightly.

>>561735123
Even people with only half a brain would say you don't have one for claiming this.

>>561735123
Most retarded post I've read this decade.

>>561734075
They kind of are though. It depends on the tech priest. Some of them will remove your personality, others will leave you mostly intact.
>>561732475
This is one funny image.

>>561732475
>only class that every other class universally shits on for existing
We won, but at what cost?

>>561732693
>>561732890
I thought we all agreed on this? The gameplay is by far the bread and butter and why they’re still in business

>>561736225
nobody disagreed, it's just that the core gameplay being good is not mutually exclusive with releasing rushed dogshit cashgrab DLC classes

>>561735756
>>561735123
Not weighing in either way, but I recall there being accounts of people who underwent anatomical hemispherectomies who had their brains rewire themselves to the point that they thrived rather than just survived, I’d have to go look for the cases though, I assume they had some underlying condition anyway and might have even been outliers but that’s still pretty damn impressive for an organ to accomplish.
It seems like while the brain is fragile,
it’s also paradoxically extremely resilient like so much of the human body.

>>561733681
Those were pretty solid additions to Helldivers 2. The hivelord is leagues better than that buggy ass vox engine.

>>561711334
>but have been mindraped into assassins for Tech Priests
Acuitors are Tech-Priests Assassins

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>>561713207
There is no actual comparison. Skitarii are extremely diverse in their structure. Hypaspists are pretty much the equivalent to the Imperial Guard, while Skitarii Praetorians are the size and gene bulked to almost Astartes standards.

>>561709464
>There are a lot of male gamers who will refuse to play or buy SoB because they will not play as a woman.
Are they gay or something?

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I just got True Survivor
Praise me! Praise me!

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How do you build veteran so that it doesn't die in a single fucking hit in havoc?

>>561738869
Good job cutie! Let’s bone to celebrate!

>>561738869
Good job. You may finally join us in the sun

>>561738870
Google havoc meta veteran march 2026

>>561709464
Funny since Kerillian’s javelins are my favorite and I don’t play sister of thorn much
Bought necromancer and forgot about it
Battle Priest was cool but I just love bounty hunter

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>>561726660
I dated a girl obsessed with Admech stuff for a couple of years this anon is absolutely correct. She dropped Darktide in the first week and is now coming back and dusting it off purely because of the SPECULATION that we'd get an Admech character.

>>561730210
Yeah I thought this talent would be great for a retard like me when I first saw it, but the "explosion" has about the same force as a taco bell fart, very disappointing. Game devs should be beaten for creating trap choices like this that have absolutely no practical use anywhere within the actual gameplay.

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>>561740213
>weapon specialist
Really?

>>561735390
I usually find it's the opposite and I'm dueling Rinda for my life while everyone else kicks Rodin's ass

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>trench fighter drill

>>561740213
This is terrible advice because not only are the majority of vet players are mouthbreathers, but they're also the most vocal about things they don't know. They're only just a tiny step above zealots.

>>561742053
I literally do not care. I just play what I like, even in Havoc.

>>561741323
>I dated a girl
Yeah right!

>>561742287
you didn’t have to dig out his booty hole like that…

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$15 for this

>>561742630
bruh can we go back to just saying bodied that freak

Admech class will have augments, theres no way they wont. Especially since Hive Scum has stim labs, they'll so something similar for sure.

>>561742287
L0L0L0L0L0L fkn pwnt

>>561742958
The leaks said they have a bespoke skill tree like scum for their servoskull that gives out buffs to the team. I imagine it will look like the exact same tree as scum stimms, even.

>>561743027
I have not seen a source for those leaks so I don't know if they're to be trusted, as I dont know how to find for myself. And I havent seen any talk of them on any of the other forums beside here.
Though...it is the bare minimum of what you'd expect a Skitarii class to be, which is a very swedish move, so idk and im pretty sure in the mechanicus game, one of the mechanics is the servo skull buffing your units. So, it sounds like a reference to that

>>561743359
>and im pretty sure in the mechanicus game, one of the mechanics is the servo skull buffing your units. So, it sounds like a reference to that
kiiiinda? They retrieve cognition points from targets which is a resource that enables a lot of your tech priests abilities, and they have a talent for buffing troop units (like skitarii) for a round. They also get one talent that passively gives its priest +1 armor, but that's about it for Servoskull buffs.

>>561743359
I don't trust those at all, but it doesn't matter. Class will be OP.

Which ogryn grenade is best bros?
never switching off me rock, just curious

>>561736809
Lot of them time when a person survives and manages to regain their lost functions and adapt despite the lost pieces of brain, it's usually because they are usually younger individuals.
And that matters because neural plasticity, like the brain is creating more neural pathways between neurons, is much more higher in children and younger individuals, because they are still developing. This is one of the reasons why learning new languages is much easier as a child than it is as an adult. Adults do have some brain plasticity but it is less than children, but over time this plasticity decreases more and more as you age.

And that plasticity is what lets their remaining brain forge new connections so they can over time regain functions they might've lost.
But even then it is not a guarantee.

Does brittleness work on bosses yellow shields?

>>561745072
No

>>561726660
>Those same people ARE NOT interested in complex systems. They interested in making sure the Skitarii has a hooded, red cloak to wear (with white gear trim), is strong, and at least some of the weapons from the table-top.
>aka normies want slop
In other news, water is wet.

>>561745151
yet the other anon had a 20 post meltdown over this simple fact and accuses everyone who states this simple fact of being a fatshark shill

>>561745072
No, I don't think so.
Though weirdly I think Skullcrusher does, but to apply it and make it work, you need to first drop the shield from the captain and then hit him while he is still down to apply the debuff.
And once the shield goes back up and as long as the dude is still staggered, you and your team will benefit from the skullcrusher stacks and you will be able to drop the shield faster. It's weird.

Unrelated, kind of, here's a "fun" piece of trivia, arbites BTL for whatever reason doesn't apply the skullcrusher debuff even if you hit and stagger the enemies.
But if your weapon has Thunderous on it however, that DOES apply the debuff.
>why?
I dunno, blame the swedes.

>all these retards saying it skitarii
Its Tech-Adept from the 40k rpg Dark Heresy. Just like other careers are inspired by it.
Doesnt make a big difference but anyway.

>mastered all guns for veteran
>only two weapons left are shovel and power sword
Got build ideas? I only recently started playing damnation level

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>>561745370
I can understand him.
Because ultimately this DLC and others coming after is just going to water down Darktide even further and just exacerbate pre-existing problems and make them worse. Ie. more retarded power creep that is already actively rotting the very foundations of the fucking game.

Like even looking back at Arbites, that shit was fucking braindead and stupid, you were tanky as fuck and practically unkillable due to it, stagger EVERYTHING and have shit like 15 second pocket smite that can stunlock an infinite amount of enemies. And on top of this you get an AI companion that kills shit and is at least 10x better and more useful than the average shitter in the game with you that makes you immune 2 3 disabler enemies. Only trappers are a threat.

But now when you compare it to Hive Scum and the upcoming Skittle, this shit is stupid.
Yeah, arbites is basically unkillable stagger machine, but at least you're allowed to still hit the enemies even if there is an arby on the team.
But as soon as there is a hive scum, that fucker is gonna be 1 room ahead of you sprinting and everything is just going to die to Rampage, Desperado, AIDS or to rockets before you even manage to see the enemies.
And it seems like that skitarii is just going to be the same shit. Like Skibidi protocol literally just sounds like to be fucking Rampage and Desperado combined into 1.

>>561742287
You didn't have to do him like that

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>>561746284
Play H40, that's the intended experience.

>>561724621
>this whole general loved hive scum
No?
Before hive scum was revealead, vast majority of people were genuinely hoping for something else other than fucking Ganger being added.
We had like month long meltdowns over this shit where it was Shitters of Butthole vs Skittles vs Gangers

>>561746542
Yes?

>>561746767
Transonic swords are used exclusively by Skitarii

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>>561746614
I have, it's fucking awful. It's boring me to tears.

It's just a wall of metal after wall of metal until you reach the end zone. And worse yet it's just the same old shit we've been doing since the launch, on the same god damn maps, but this time we have LESS maps in rotation and less weapon variety because the balance in this game is pure cancer and the devs refuse to fix it.

>>561746861
Will you publicly apologize for being wrong once they reveal the class?

>>561747028
No.

>>561746914
So on the pleb difficulties you complain that its too easy for one person to clear everything but then once there's enough enemies that you need all 4 that's not good either?

I'm fine with it being a Skitarius but I would have preferred an Enginseer so that we could get a proper Omnissian axe. Also is this going to be the first time that Skitarii are directly playable in a video game? I know they appear as summons or something in Mechanicus but I can't think of any other game they even appear in unless there is some mobileslop I don't know about.

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Admech reclaimator

>>561747028
If in the coming weeks we get "Galvanic Rifle P1 Deluxe01" in the files, you will find yourself tasting shit and it will be because you insisted upon being a retard for no good reason.

>>561747380
They are units in Mechanicus, but you can't "play" as anything in Mechanicus since it's a top-down strategy game. So, to answer your question, yes, this is the first time we'll get to play as an AdMech unit of any kind in any game.

>>561746284
>I can understand him.
No one is disagreeing. The issue we took is that he was advocating for purely interesting mechanics, not good mechanics. Those are two very different things, and he couldn't get that through his dumb fucking skull for whatever reason. Anyone who has played Warframe for even a while can tell you that while most frames have a neat gimmick, that doesn't make it worth playing them. It's why I tried to level with him and make him understand that other games do try the interesting angle, and their players simply don't give a flying fuck and will naturally migrate toward the simplest, easiest, and most effective way to play. He coped by saying this shouldn't be rewarded, and yeah, on some level it shouldn't, but his dreams are not reality. If what he wanted was ever obtainable (from Fatshark), we'd all be playing an entirely unrecognizable game from what we're currently stuck with. At that point you (not you literally) aren't even talking about Darktide anymore, you're talking about some fantastic day dream that you wish could be made real but never will.

Even then, we all agreed that should Fatshark somehow make the Skitarii both INTERESTING and GOOD then, yes, that is objectively better than just good. Who the fuck would say otherwise?

>>561747380
>>561747548
Inquisitor is probably the closest we ever got, but it's isometric and you can choose the "skitarius expertise" (you start with a rad carbine and get some bonus ranged damage)
Even if it isn't skitarii this may end up being the biggest thing for admech bros since Mechanicus

>>561747267
Yeah.
Because my difficulty options are.
>babby difficulty that you can clear practically by yourself
>ball crushing factory
And even if I want to play havoc 20-30, it's still not fun because I need to use the dogshit party finder system, where I might be forced to sit upwards of 20 minutes looking at red DECLINED from applying to teams.
This isn't fun.

This shit is fucking flawed from the ground up. And only reason why we are here even in the first place because devs have their heads up their own ass and refuse to make changes.
And when they finally get down from their Ivory Tower to talk to us peasants, to make changes it takes years to do so and if they do make a change there's no guarantee that it is for the better all.
For example see;
>Expeditions as a whole (just bad)
>Heavy Sword "buff" (it's still dogshit, arguably worse)
>twin stubber buffs (still not great)
>PBB buff (still not great)
Just to name a few

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>the new expedition set has clipping issues with the hands
BRAVO FATSHARK
You can test this yourself by equipping a knife and pressing the inspect button.

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Let's play a game of spot the consolegroid

rev it up arbitrator doesn't feel very good lol

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>>561713102
>If you want ammo efficiency, consider the heavy mark of infantry las with efficiency
Good call, did some testing with it and it does seem to be very usable.
Efficiency is a yes, Opening Salvo is a no. The cooldown on it is too long to be practical. Headhunter seems to just be that much better. Else the next best blessing is probably just good ol' Infernus.

I'll give this thing a try.

What if like
Lasgun
But burst fire

>urge to play darktide
>play quickplay expedition auric
>good team 3 scum + arbie
>second stage
>random mission aborted at the second POI with tornado
fuck me man, make a mediocre mode AND make it unstable, truly swedoid excellence

>>561753967
equip recon lasgun
press lmb in short bursts

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Speaking of lasguns
WHY THE FUCKING FLYING FUCK DOES THE FUCKING LASGUN HAVE AS MUCH, NO, IT LITERALLY HAS MORE RECOIL IN ITS STUPID FUCKING DOG ASS ANIMATION THAN A FUCKING 12.7MM GUN
AND THIS IS >>>>>>AFTER THE RECOIL REDUCTION
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING NIGGER BULLSHIT
I AM GOING TO SKIN EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN SWEDEN ALIVE

>>561754041
Just play Malice on expeditions. There is no reason to play expeditions on anything higher.

>>561754237
They didn't in beta, but playtesters complained about it, so they gave the las weapons recoil and overdid it.

>>561754237
>when a flashlight needs recoil
Nogunz librul faggot boiz in my games. RUINING IT.

>>561706614
The entire leak reads like a parody post but people take it seriously because either they're so desperate for Skitarii or they have negative faith in Fatshark
Both positions make sense but it's so depressing that we're at this point (and have been for years) where even something this blatantly shit is what people are running with

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>auric
>see ogryn get melted by gunners
>what the fuck, bro, dodge?
>shout him back to his feet
>he gets melted again
>doesn't dodge
>doesn't slide
>just dies
>check his slides after the game
>12 (twelve)
World's most skillful xbot ogryn

>>561758465
You can tell who unbound jump from space

>>561759650
More like you can tell who doesn't know you can bhop through fire barrels and dead flamer puddles.

>>561747956
Looking at Inquisitor, it looks like the Prophecy DLC did add a Tech Adept, which is obviously not the same thing either but closer than just starting with a rad carbine. Also mother fucker I've had this game on my wishlist forever and Steam didn't even tell me it was on sale for the spring sale, I fucking hate the wishlist it's god damn useless.
>$15 for a single DLC class in this game
Games Workshop living up to their reputation as expert wallet rapists, I see.

>>561762532
>Not manually checking your wishlist during a sale
You are doing it wrong

>>561762727
Evidently so, idk I've never made much use of it except to monitor upcoming games. It seems really dumb Steam doesn't blast you with some kind of message like "HEY THAT GAME ON YOUR LIST IS XX% OFF RIGHT NOW" though

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>new hacking minigame be like
>find the matching symbols before a plagued up traitor wedges a fly-wheel between your spine and skull

>>561762884
it does, it just doesn't do it very well, I only got notified for 3 games on my wishlist.

Yesterday, while playing Relay Station, Shock Troop Gauntlet, we had the unique experience of having enemies spawn instantly.
Like, we get out of the landing cutscene and there was guys in front of us, and it kept spawning more guys constantly as we made out way to the "start" of the level.
Anyone else had this?

>>561762884
It's really random for me. It will usually wait until halfway through the sale and then tell me that 5 games from my wishlist are on sale even though all 30 of them have been on sale for a week at that point

the new ready or not missions are kino.
though some of the S-ranks are pissing me off because they execute hostages seemingly at random.
Specifically hunger strike. It seems almost impossible to do on solo and even with a well coordinated team it feels like a 50/50 even if you do everything right.

>>561765379
Never post about copslop in my general again or I will go Ruby Ridge on your ass

When a new update like Beyond The Hive drops, do I have to wait for mods to be updated and re-download them all to get them back up and running again? Is there an easier way?

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>>561765560
>is there an easier way
Play vanilla.

>>561746739
I think he means after release but I don’t really recall people saying they “loved it”, more like “hey this is more fun than I thought it would be because my expectations were zero”
>>561747915
It’s sad because Warframe between the setting and concept does seem like it had potential but dropped the ball

>>561765760
Yeah true, I have very few gripes with vanilla, I tried modding it up for a while but most stuff either felt unstable, pointless, or too cheaty (showing healthbars is stupid OP man), but holeeyyy fuck I do not like playing without the guaranteed weapon swap mod.