Hey, hey, mama, said the way you move~>Guidehttps://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2>Year of Prophecyhttps://www.destinythegame.com/en/YearOfProphecy>Destiny Risinghttps://www.playdestinyrising.com/>NewsTWID (3/26): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid-03-26-2026Update 9.5.5.5: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_5_5_5Destiny 2: Renegades launch trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqicEwg2qEc>ResourcesDIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/API: https://www.light.gg/Stats: https://destinytracker.com/Braytech: https://braytech.org/PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/Previous: >>561689381
>me with my Truth
Tassi won Bungie lost
Annyeonghaseyo, my name is Datto-bae.
Does marathon have any veils I can pierce with my radial mast?
>>561823935>AnnyeonghaseyoGook speak is so fucking ugly
>>561823982wait for magma archive next year. Please hold off on reviewing the game until then.
>>561823982The veil and radial mast story is so kaballistic that I'm not shocked it confused everyone, but a real NIGGA knows what bungie is really talking about.
>>561824375based and esotericpilled
>>561821670Even if we go with the most optimistic numbers, bungie's still in the reds if we go by what this anon said
>>561823943>complete reload animation
>>561824631kek,that doesnt even include marketing etc
>>561824631
>>561824631Sony, tie me to a missile and fire it at Bungie. I am ready.
Why did marathon flop
>>561825554your judaism
>>561824631>BDF jeets still doing their "work" going after "witchhunting">cheaters are so bad bungie had to actually sue multiple cheat distributors over the years with multi million dollar lawsuits>instead of just disincentivizing the whole paid trials/comp carry scene and making it easier to get the trials loot solo like they did in heresy>actually had cheaters DM me during a trials game thinking I was cheating because I just knew how to shoot straight Bungie is dead and im not sure what killed it at this point. Gonna say the 7 guardians.
>>561824140korean and chinese are awful to listen tojapanese really is the best asian languagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THV3uC32G-s
>>561825554It's shitslop for troon faggots
>>561825037marathon marketing was hugeall those cgi videos cost A LOT
You know, we never got nine man squads for activities
>>561825783>all those cgi videosHow many were there?
>>561825625>im not sure what killed ityou did, with your judaism
>>5618259046-7
>>561825876We only ever got one 12man activity and they never made 12 man raids for fun
>>561825959They should have made 12 man raids a feature or at least for fun events one or two times a month. It would have helped people who'd never raid do it at least once or twice
>>561825554choosing your target market is rule #1 for like fucking everythingthey completely failed at that
isnt this a mission from forsaken
>>561826369you thought forsaken was original?
>>561826369>>561826427not today, ramesh
>>561826369Hey chud, Bungie was very busy when they had acitivison making all of the post-release forsaken content while they...did something, probably.
I thought Forsaken was pretty good
>>561825904>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtw5BDpKgJMthere is no way this cost less than 10mil>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbEnWLRo1sfrom what ive heard this was made by the people who did The Witness episode in Love Death & Robots(Netflix series)budget probably the same for this.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_tFPT5X2hs>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46lq8NS2JI>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nertr9Lt9Icthese might be done in house by bungie so i dont know what the cost would be.i would say there is an extremely good chance that bungie has only made back what these videos cost, and none of the cost of developing the game.on the marathon youtube channel there is 41 videos(all count as marketing and all cost money to produce)
>>561826838Don't forget the arg slop and other shit
>>561825554NuMarathon is just okay, and being "okay" is not enough to overcome the stolen art controversy and the long standing frustrations with the Destiny fanbase. Not only that but Bungie games are mostly associated with Uncs in terms of demographic while also being accessible enough that even a player with low skills and not much free time can get some enjoyment from it. That isn't the case with nuMarathon; if you aren't making progress then you'll basically be suffering playing the entire game. It barely introduces concepts to you and insists on throwing you into the deep end while you pick up items that you have no clue what the fuck they do, and probably won't really click with you until you're a few hours in. And even if you do get the hang of things, your progress can and will be stalled by players that treat you as a loot pinata.
>>561826549it's d1 retard
The fact that they never reprised Leviathan or any of the other raids was diabolical shit.
Need a marathon version
>>561826959oh yeh total is way more but these the first 2 stood out to me 8 minutes and 9 minutes with that quality is insane for pre release marketing for this type of gameremember when people were blown away by this?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I6uLdHK5toits not even 2 minutes long.go look at any of the destiny 1 or 2 trailersnone of these have this quality or production value(infinitely more soul tho)and none of them even come close to 8 or 9 minutes.and most destiny trailers use in game footage which comparatively costs nothing.
>>561827576
>>561827657>two helmets
>>561827681It's for their headmate, you bigot chuddite
>>561827752My bad, sister.
>>561827681I don't blame the AI for looking at the Destroyer and not knowing what the fuck its looking at.
Total Kevin yanes death
>>561828090NEVER EVER
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>>561828126Is this the fat mexican in the marathon vidocs?
>>561827874>dood what if we took the security officer and made him LAME and GAY
>>561828126Still funny to this day
>>561828126>in his absence they bring it back, but it's dogshit lmao
>>561823648How has bungie never made a trailer this cool since TTK?
>>561828126>my guy
>>561828601>How has bungie never made a trailer this cool since TTK?Activision handled all of the good trailers
>>561828126What possessed him to say this knowing full well they had something similar in the works? And these devs wonder why people shit on them
>>561828346tbqh the security officer is already pretty fruityThat sissy death scream is unbelievable
>>561828875I will not accept such slanderous words. I'm gonna cry.
>>561828126this spiked my cortisolgod damn im actually enraged 4 fucking years laterfuck you for reminding me this happened.what a fucking cunt.
>>561828601>>561828716
>>561828176>proven wrong
team is jamming
>>561829713Lmao what the fuck are they even doing?
>>561829713What are the odds on Shattered Cycle and the expansion after it being cancelled?
>>561829713They really have nothing huh? If they had anything of value to show they would have already.
>>561829713
>>561829713JUNE?
>>561829713Supposed to launch a month ago and they have literally nothing to talk about. The next update will be the final one and they will discuss plans to maintain eververse until the servers are shut down
>>561829713https://youtu.be/PQKidnFsTUg?si=XQcTLte2kSUT_v7N
They must know they're getting the layoff news by June
>>561829713How stupid do they think we are? It's so obvious they have fucking nothing and this update doesn't exist
>>561829713If they have to wait until June to make an Ash and Iron type update then the series is doomed with Bungie. >>561830612That or they’re hoping that this update will be enough to save the Destiny team at Bungie while most of the Marathon staff are axed.
>>561828126How do you respond to this without sounding mad?
>>561825654cantonese is based thougbeit
>>561829713You don't understand anon, updating all that old raid and dungeon loot is REALLY HARD! Let the team JAM!
Daily reminder that the first Destiny sold over 6m in its first monthMarathon sold approximately 1.2m in 3 weeks, and seems to have very weak legs, by the fact that it has absolutely tanked in the top earners chartsYou're insane if you believe this shit isn't well below expectations. I fucking guarantee you Bungie and Sony were expecting at least 5m sales in a month MINIMUM
>>561832959Uhhhh but I we needed to study the comeback and the vibe shifted.
>>561832959>5m sales in a month MINIMUMThey were hoping for it, but they'd have to be seriously fucked in the head to actually expect it
>>561829713ITSFUCKINGOVER
The vibe shifted
>>561833541I love how self-cannibalistic that entire fanbase is.
>>561833610Same
Where is Tahnit? Is he ok?
>>561833541Thank God we're all friends here. :)
>>561829713>those repliesRape DMG and Bungie.
>>561829713This retarded faggot is 100% getting laid off in a few months
>Maraflop player counts already less than yesterday even after Bungie changed their scheduling for cope archivekekaroo
>>561834427Shut up, chud. The team is jamming and listening to the feedback.
>>561834196
>>561834749
Alright /dg/ enough doom and rape.Pitch Destiny 3 made on a shoestring budget. You are allowed to have chuds in the dev team however dmg still has to market it.
>>561835126>Pitch Destiny 3 made on a shoestring budget.I'd rather not have it if it's not going to be made with the budget it deserves.
>>561835126No. Now bend over its time for your threadly rape.
>>561835126Top-down isometric sprite-based loot-em-up
>>561835126Basically take d2, but make a Jam shader and Drifter saying "let's fucking do this thing" as the last mission of the next campaign starts
>Couldn't even get 42K on a SaturdayIt's fucking over
>>561835306kek
>>561835306
>>561835338I'm thankful Bungie put Cryo back in early to increase the player count by just enough to give Marasissy a boost in confidence. It will make raping them when the player counts collapse even better.
>>561835472Gotta change the POV holder's skin color tbqh
Alright I'm backI want to either host a VOG run (newcoomers are allowed) who wants to play PLEASE
>>561833610It’s an extraction shooter, outside of Arc the vast majority of the playerbase won’t be fun to play with. Marathon made things worse by purposefully chasing after that fanbase and being extremely deceptive with how they marketed the game with Peanut’s original stream.
Peak of 41k.Less than yesterday's peak of 43k.Both are less than last Saturdays peak of 56k.
>>561835126card-based roguelite adventure game with optional multiplayer (we are ripping off STS)
>>561835757I'd like to. what class do you want?
>>561829713what even is dmg's job at this point? he'll be laid off before june
>>561835126open world extraction rpg card game
>>561835947SHUT UP CHUD! We don't need massive player counts to be successful! Season 2 is the real test and will shoot the player counts to 300k+ and you chuds will be owned!
>>561836338lamp block lampshade
>>561836262>three core classes each with multiple archetypesIt's just crazy enough to work...
>"Marathon development will not affect Destiny 2." -dmg
>"Bungie is now a 2-game studio with Marathon" - dmg
>Let’s fucking do this thing. - dmg
>>561837094I still have no idea what the fuck he meant by that
>>561835757Sent you a DM! :3
>"More and more core players are staying and playing the game." - Tyson Green
>"This is GLØRPSHit." -dmg
>>561837214>Tyson Green is in his early 50's, worst-case scenario.Fucking how? My dad is in his 60's and has a better hairline.
>>561837165
>>561836338/join Guardian8956#7840
>>561837685Are you GayGuy#6969 ?
venting>played with some people from a random discord>they helped me get a quest done>cool let's go balls out and get this other dude his money he wanted>fuckin faggy 3rd keeps thinking he's the main character but whatever I'm usually cool with just following the group>first into pinwheel but there's immediately people and a fight>faggyfag wants to just sit at the top of the pinwheel hallway, do literally nothing>every time we have a potential opportunity to push, bot aggro, other shots, literally anything he's like NO NO NO>take a few pot shots as the other teams obviously end up pushing closer>2nd dude goes down>bubbles out for the res>people have moved outside and are actively moving towards us>NO NO>stay put>die to a destroyer with a shotgun who pushes in with his shield while one of us has our shields downi fucking hate the passive, scared little bitches that hide behind their consumables and gear. It's a fucking PvP game if you suck ass at PvP, fucking play more PvP until you feel comfortable using the fucking rifle between your hands and the legs worm mommy gave you holy fuckin SHIT.
>>561837165>trying to hype up your playerbase for a big comeback after you've fucked things to oblivion for the millionth timeThe fact that Ash & Iron dropped a few days after that only makes it funnier.
>>561837685at capacity :(
>>561838230sis? this is /dg/ not /mg/
>>561838230Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the /mg/ two blocks down
>>561839039im so glad i stopped playing this raped franchise in 2018
>>561837214Looking at the future game director of Destiny 3
>>561841140not so fast
>>561841228I think Luke is done with industry, especially if he was one of the golden parachute members that got out with a huge payout.
>>561841432>didn't ship lightfallBASED
Well we did the raidit was depressinglike 3 dudes locked in and did all the workeveryone else was just there to get the drops and experience it.it was kind of sad to hear a lot of their thoughts on the game and what'll happenapparently bungie are never bringing back leviathian? which is crazy since levi + all those raids were some of the best in the game. I loved crown of sorrow and eater of worlds.
>>561842346>like 3 dudes locked in and did all the work To be fair thats all you really need for each encounter except gatekeeper I think. Not a whole others can do just like in deep stone
It is absolutely unequivocally over. Into the light 2.0 will be the final update for D2
>>561843963>INTO THE LIGHTNAW NIGGUH, DESTINY'S SOUL IS BEING SENT SCREAMING INTO HELL
>didn't even come close to hitting 50k on a saturday.it's over AF
hmmmi wonder why
>>561847746Hmm, maybe they should consult one nifty presentation they did awhile ago.
>>561843963I think it's a little bit poisonous to compare off-hours to the all-time peak. It's just going to make people aggressively petty in response.Even though there is a small nugget of truth where it's very clear the game has a geographical bias so extreme that the game reaches an EOS level of players when that area isn't playing which simply wouldn't be possible if the game sold well the normies and shills do not care whatsoever.
>>561847746>undeserved hatethey said the linewish they also said "forced hate" too
>>561848030its almost like they fired people who knew what they were doing or they went literally insane
>>561848192
>>561848274>makes game that rewards the most scumfuck behavior
Ming-son-Datto...Mogged by a World's First...Give me something for the cringe and let me Guardian Down
>>561848030well right now they're at the mercy of whether people even want to bite the bait or not.
>>561851669*cough*...UGEHHHHGGHHi jammed too hardi attended 2 meetings todaythats two more than average...
>>561852951hehe
>>561828126no wonder they get death threats they're practically asking for it
>>561855107i dont even believe these people get death threats. And if they do, its something like "fuk you faggot, hope u die"
>>561855169they mean nothing, the people you have to worry about aren't the ones who will tell you they're gonna kill you
>>561835304kill yourself>>561836262kill yourself
>>561835126make one big zone per content release. all story content is integrated into the zone seamlessly. you can choose to do it with random people, or in a private mode where you can invite people.endgame/grinding is a helldivers clone on the same zone.copy paste the same gameplay (but less gay diablo shit with 100000 enemies)copy paste the same pvp mapswhen you dismantle a gun you can extract a perk from it (free). inserting a perk into a gun is expensive, and more expensive the more perks you put in; but, perks stay permanently unlocked for that gun once inserted
Destiny should be about the destinations. Hence the name. Bring back the sense of exploration, but not at the cost of the players patience. The destination should invite the player to explore intrinsically, not extrinsically, like puzzles locking areas. The weapons should not be random rolls. (Sorry hoarders and loot chasers) There should probably be 2-3 weapons per archetype. All acting like exotics. earning their spots in the sandbox. Campaigns should be seamless in the exploration of the destination. Akin to how adventures worked in D2Y1. And consolidation of "Activities" into the patrol, not separated.
>>561855107>death threats99.99999% of the time people talk about getting a death threat they actually arent.
>>561829713people then wonder why everyone hates bungie and wants them to fail
>>561856108>Destiny was actually just cute shorthand for Destinations:O
>>561856108you HAVE to have random weaponsthe people want iti don't like it personally but there are so many people who doit's not negotiable
>>561856108I do miss adventures
>>561856358>Destinationswhich were removed
>>561856848Loot-driven games don't retain players, they rent them. The moment whatever incentive-of-the-week stops moving, they leave. If the activity itself isn't worth doing for its own sake, you never actually had a player; you had a Skinner box tenant. A game built around loot as its primary motivator is building on sand. It demands constant new rewards, but that's not engagement, it's conditioning. Players aren't there because the activity is fun; they're there because they want the thing at the end of it. The second the reward feels stale or the grind too familiar, they're gone. That's an unsustainable model, because it outsources the reason to play to an endless content treadmill rather than making the core experience compelling enough to stand on its own. There's a difference between a player who wants to do the raid and a player who wants the raid's drop. Loot-first design fills your game with the latter, and the latter will always leave when something shinier comes along. Intrinsic engagement is what keeps people. Loot is just a bandage over a design that doesn't trust itself.
>>561857151>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCEMw9oMbcKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINO>this bungie is long deadpain... just... agonizing pain...
>>561856108>The weapons should not be random rolls. (Sorry hoarders and loot chasers) There should probably be 2-3 weapons per archetype. All acting like exotics.you should blow your brains out on the spot.
>>561857376aw man now im sad... destiny used to be so much fun...
>>561857298no you dont get it we cant deliver good products we are a train station we need to keep the trains running>>561857465natural slave spotted
The funny thing is the moment Destiny gets any meager update with anything new it will get at least double the amount of players marathon has
>>561857298okay, but i was told to pitch something that a CFO named nick scholomo would accept. personally i agree and live service is an inherently toxic, self-defeating business model and you should just sell games, actually
>>561858514also i realize this is kind of a goalpost moving but you moved them first; many people still do want random loot, it's just a thing
>>561858284>funnyno, it will be extremely sad.
Was it really that hard?>(Introduce the world)Tower/Cosmodrome/First Light/Ishtar/Freehold/Lighthouse/Reef>(Provide Threats)Out of control robots w/ time travel trying to convert everything &/or repair themselves/their future (Vex Threat)Scavenging pirates w/ internal warring factions (Fallen Threat)Expanding Empire (Cabal Threat)Infestation (Hive Threat)>(Reveal History)Twilight Gap/Shard of Traveler (How we got where we are)Cradle/Enclave (Darkness is closer than we thought)5th Race (Glimmer/Taken/Tenebrae/Veil/Dread Threat)>(Provide Frontiers, payoff old threats)Tangled ShoreColony ship graveyard past the inner systemOuter system moons>(Tease deeper Connections)Deep Stone Crypt (Exos made @ the cost of using Vex/Darkness. We're not unlike Race 5)Hallowed Spire (Race 5 were humans attempting immortality through losing humanity)>(Payoff The Traveler)Enter The Black Garden (Race 5 made The Traveler & it rejected/removed them)Travel in The Traveler to leave The Solar System
>>561859812>(Vex Threat)you now remember the literal countless times bungie tried to make the vex a threat and failed every time.(apart from early d1)
>>561860206>The Vex are important>Can't pay them off yet>Still need to fight them>Dwindle importance to justify>Repeat
I tire of bungies pathetic existence
>>561859812>Colony ship graveyard past the inner systemim still mad that we never got to explore this.
>>561860954they have failed us for the last time.
Hmm... today I think I am going to rape Bungie.
>>561860843>oh these are all just workers, we've never seen a real combat unit!the community held on to this cope for about a decade
According to some leakers Destiny 3 actually has people leave earth as 3's death is making it fall apart are humanity is split between a floatilla in orbit around the Traveller, an "oasis" on mars and Dead Orbit actually leaving in colony ships. Do you think its legit? also if it is isn't it a little telling they didn't use Neomuna at all?
>>561861356>isn't it a little telling they didn't use Neomuna at all?no, the "leaker" who made it up just forgot that any of that shit existed.
>>561861356sounds like the most boring uninspired outcome anyone could come up with for destiny so its probably true
only interesting outcome is massive sweeping retcons and a reset
only interesting outcome is RAPE
>obvious shill thread on /v/ still up after 10 hours>all negative ones get deleted instantly
>>561862631Theres an indian janny that is going out of his way to delete any negativity toward the live services he buys.
Are we just chuddies?
>polygon
The impossible in question
This is a reminder that Nu-Marathon only exists because Chris Barrett's version of D3 was canned when Bungie split from Activision.Nu-Marathon was birthed from the leftovers of D3 from 2018-19
>>561863206No its just another Veilguard. They can't stand the fact the concensus doesn't agree with them so they are gaslighting to try and meme magic their cope into reality. Again.
>>561863425well it's double the destiny population so I can see why they think it's destiny 22
>>561863206>done the impossibleAnd these journos wonder why they're a fucking JOKE
>>561862683>tahnit is a jannyLOOOOOL
BLOODY BITCH CHUDDY
>Kepler is put on the timeline menu instead of the WORLDS menuBungie is just being intentionally malicious at this point I hope all of them get turned into some new tarmac by an 18 wheeler.
>>561863206Reminder subject of thos article was 'creating conversations' whatever the fuck that means
>Get the hankering from some destiny>Go to game library to redownload>See icon is star wars slop and go "oh... yeah">Cancel downloadI hate this intrusive brand synergy garbage so much bros. I hate it more than the fucking eververse.
Bro they're not even trying anymore bro. Like legitimately, unequivocally, just straight up lying out of their asses to defend marathon
>>561866829Its not to defend marathon, its to defend their usefulness to the higher ups who want to replace them with AI.
This whole storyline about the Vanguard being bad guys for keeping the prophecy under wraps just screams that the writers have no concept of OPSEC. It's perfectly normal to keep intel confidential.
>>561863206what could they possibly talk about in that article to warrant a headline like that
>>561866829I was watching a podcast, and marathon came up, and the topic was like>yea people are so concerned with playercount>Marathon has 300k people playing it right nowhad to do a double take, because its nowhere close to 300kand the podcast wasn't prerorded over a week ago>google it>yeah Marathon gets 80k players according to steamok a little bit of a lie, but it did last week>AND WE PREDICT ITS LIKE 300K PLAYERS ON CONSOLES>MARATHON HAS A POPULATION OF LIKE 400K PROBABLYlol............
Holy shit
HOW ARE WE LOSING TO A FUCKING WALKING SIMULATOR
>>561867003It will be funny when they are replaced with AI who end up writing articles like>objectively this game is shit 1/10until they have to write laws around that, and only videogame company AI that loves videogames from companies are allowed to review gamesbecause it was unsafe before and people could lose jobs
>>561867430"Crimson Highguard" Jeetathon shill btfo kek
Let's be honest: is sony actually gonna do anything with bungie? I feel like they have a hardon for bungie and they aren't gonna do shit with them unless bungie actually stops making games
>Gamerdads on the marathon subreddit are getting heated about people calling them idiots for buying cash shop skinsIts like Uncs that only play Destiny and WoW are fighting with Zoomers that are gacha burned out.
>>561866829>Marathon sales SOARED Yeah, off a cliff and into it's grave. looool