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Why didn't you cement us?
monk will save us (at blizzcon)evoker will cement us
Draenei’s will sement us
just 4 more days BROS
>>561874861Because Evoker isn't out yet, wait until 2029
>>561874656Things are looking rough BUT worry not fellow Hearthstone players!!This year we have Blizzcon and you know what that means!!! Monk announcement and Hearthstone saved!!!Panda time is coming and will be GREAT!!!
What are your favorite decks of all time?
>>561877172wild giants hunter before the nerf
Yes, this is it...
Impressive how they keep making each expansion a worse experience than the last
>>561877172some of them that i can remember areog miracle roguebrm freeze magekft highlander priestloe renolocki also loved greedy control mage lists with kazakus/death knight and quest magemage was my favorite class and i hate that they turned into random bullshit and forced aggro desu
Burn mage is such a fun deckIt's pretty mediocre but it also feels very close to being a quite good deck for some reason
>>561877436Old Gods and LoE are so overratedprenerf Yogg ruined the game and LoE introduced discover one of the shittiest keyword in the game
>>561877172Outcast DH around the time of festival of legends.Tempo Rogue with Azshara, Crab, and bone spike.
>>561877436unrelated but how many of them did you guys play?
>>561877172KnC Elemental ShamanRise of Shadows Control Shaman (and that entire package until it rotated)FDOS (Rivendare) ShamanBadlands Highlander ShamanNature Shaman with Jive
>>561880334LoE discover saved the game. Without it everything would be random slop.
>>561877436Witchwood... My beloved... I wanna go back...
>>561880334t. 1k legend hs 'pro'
>>561880938I remember all from launch until 2020 (I quit before Descent of Dragons), 2019 is blurry because I hated every setNaxxramas I don't remember much except Undertaker Hunter because it made me quit, same with Secret Paladin and Justicar Warrior during Grand TournamentAfter 2020 I came back on and off so it's all blurry (I remember some key cards but I couldn't tell you what set they are from), it also doesn't help that they started releasing 999 sets every year
>>561877172this slop homebrew is my favourite deck, first time i got to legendi also liked galvadon paladin, divine shield paladin (KotFT) and cage head DK
>>561877436>scholo C-tier
Can they make Rafaam lock viable, please...
>that new Azshara skinlick lick lick
What were they afraid of when designing this shit?
>>561888192murlocs i'm guessing
>>561884231its literally deck who can beat imbue nigs....play your niggazaurus and win
>>561877172
>>561889560Actual psychopath
>>561890167I understand why that one anon absolutely shits and pisses himself at the thought of priest being good, probably gave him trauma on ladder with that shit
hearthstone 2026, a returning players perspective:>haven't played hearthstone since rastakans rumble 2018 >playing slay the spire 2 the past couple weeks>get the itch for a pvp card game>figure I'll try hearthstone again >claim the free "ladder ready" paladin deck because it has the most legendaries and reddit says it's decent >game one vs demon hunter >no idea what the new class does >oh wait it's hearthstone (random random random random card generation from both of us each turn)>turn 8 I have extra mana for my first hero power >silver hand recruits have been re-illustrated to be tranny fem nelf purple hair lesbians >immediately close the game and uninstall gg /hsg/, thanks for reminding to never play another blizzard game or ever give a single cent to the talentless team of DEI faggots ruining blizzard entertainment
>>561877172curse warlockholy wrath paladinblessed champion paladinhandbuff paladindudes paladin
>>561891131We should make our own Hearthstone...
>>561888420>decide to make a support card for a tier 3 deck that everyone hates>make it unplayably bad so tier 3 deck never runs it>nerf tier 3 deck anywaysimply epic
>>561891790It’s called Shadowverse 2
>>561891131i also quit around that time and i can't believe this game has gotten even worse than it was in 2019
How many druids in a row can I possible meet?And I know once I change my deck, I will get countered by something else.
>>561891131Is incredible how this was supposed to be the "Salvation" expansion after a rotation but the faggot devs managed to make a shit like.
>gladiator warrior mirror 3 games in a row
>win game>next game literally algo cheats counterfuck off discover shitliterally stole free win
They should undo some of the elise nerfs.
>>561898597Nah they should kill Hunter, Shaman and Druid ALL at the same time. Then this game as a hope.
you now remember tourists
>literally cant lose>lose anywayRANDOM WINCONS ARE FUN YEAH ? CORA ?die in hell with your balanced shit
>mage faggot cryingat least theres a silver lining
I just want to play a videogame man... trying to be Quest Hunter and its like >6 minions divine shield +1/+1 turn 6 booyying bing bing wahoo. JFC
>>561899752im crying not about mage or warrior im literally screaming about rigged RANDOM wincond discovers in deck who not tailored to random casino ( read algo always find a way to rig your game)
>>561900035and yes this always happens when i win last game because fucking scripts
nah Cora play your game with your Brotherim out
>>561900484i won btw
>>561877172Arcane hunterWishing well rogueSpectral cutlass rogueRenouncelock
gentleman, I regret to inform you I am not having fun anymore, I cannot wait for TDD (total druid death)
>>561903217i'd rather play against druids than those bullshit egg decks
>>561903217you will be here day next nerfs crying about shaman and hunter anon
>>561898597nahshe can sit it out
it's so funny that mage hasn't been good in years and yet shitters are still triggered by its mere existence
>>561904376>mage hasn't been good in yearswhat do you mean by thatelemental mage got me to legend literally last month
>>561904541not him but you can get to legend with anythingelemental mage was pretty much unplayable into any meta deck
>>561904541not meta
>>561877172deathknight priest, deathknight warrior, deathknight hunterpriest and doing damage to face was kinowarrior and spawning legendaries was kinohunter and custom-crafting minions was kino
>>561877436Old gods was so fucking kinoased manMaking c'tun bigger and bigger was so kinosoulful>>561877172>>561905298Add any c'tun deck to the list
>>561877172OG anti-heal priest using Auchenai and Zombie Chow's.
This shit isn't even fun to playIt's like I'm playing vs a bot because my deck is so retarded
man its crazy how dead this game has become in the past few yearsi wanted to watch some videos about an "old" deck and i cant find shit with more than like 5k views lmao
>niggerturn 6Also every deck is aggro now, spell DH summons a bunch of niggers tooGame fucking sucks, I'm gonna try MTGA again instead
>after using like 3 cards to clear my board
>>561907064MTGA is a better game but it's too expensive to get into and lands suck.
>>561907356I like the lands system honestly, being able to interact with your opponent's manaI played MTGA back in the vampire expansion, even the base decks were fun, I'm gonna try it again and see how bad making decks really is
>>561907489Losing to rng because you keep drawing lands suck. I think Hearthstone HAD better mechanics overall but it's handled like shit with retarded devs who kept on ruining and ruining the goods of the game. I like that Magic has a graveyard and exile pile.
>>561908010I think that there being lands that actually do stuff is a pretty cool way to solve that, like this one black land that can become a 3/2 or whatever, still I get what you mean tho
>>561877172og handlock, FoN druid, rainbow DK, like all versions of discover / casino mage, titans mech rogue
>paying money to be unplayable
Look at this fucking shitI'm herald fucking warriorWhat a shit gameHow did they manage this??
I hope Imbue Druid gets nerfed to a degree that makes what happened to Elise look like a slap on the wrist. I'm genuinely talking about that deck getting massacred to a degree that it is straight up 20% winrate until rotation hits. Like 4 core cards getting those sort of nerfs Blizzard does when they just want a deck fucking gone.
>>561909656aggro druid is even stronger than imbue
Yeah nah I'm doneCan't even finish the shitty dogshit "summon colossals" shitmission on my daily rotation because this isn't a real cardgame and getting to mana to summon colossals is impossibleSee you guys in a week>>561910010Not him but no imbue beats aggro
Imbue and aggro druid using same fucking broken cards... wdyt
>>561909656Hatchery Helper and Charred Chameleon both need to be kneecapped and Innervate removed from the core set.
tavern brawl is so rigged holy fuck
>>561901090>>561900484>>561899592>>561897027>switch to bg>1 pack from reward trackPLEASE PLAY STANDART pathetic Cora.... literally begging me play
why do these dogshit devs hate mage so much? class hasn’t add a PLAYABLE deck in over a year yet it got completely cucked by the rotation and hasn’t gotten shit from cataclysm either. as soon as mage gets a playable deck every shitter complains about the class daily meanwhile hunter and druid (actual bullshit classes that are always meta) are perfectly finelike protoss mage wasn’t even good but i’ve seen countless people rejoicing over its rotation more than the actual bullshit cards from the 2024 sets
>>561874656I think Sinestra Imbue Rogue may be the most based deck I've ever played. It's so peak.
>Run into a rogue>Get forced to watch the stupid rewind effect every turn from them rerolling their shitty imbue powerFuck that noise.
>>561924362Sorry I'm having peak fun, bro.
>>561926056I have no problem with anything else in the deck cuz it ain't druid I just don't want a dumb animation across the entire screen every turn.
>>561923238Quest mage and burn perfectly fine... you just die because nigs cheat billion stats on turn 3 or elusive on 4-5Mage farms herald(or other non t1)decks with easy druidstone nerf waiting room
>Get a Antonidas that costs 2 from the Rogue imbued power>While I have 2 PrepsYeah, it's gaming time.
>>561927736enjoy your scripted win
Aww yeah Shaman doesn't have Hex for once.
>>561928446Nevermind I lost he topdecked enough bullshit to push my face in.
>only chance to survive roll 40hp or removalyeah removal.....
>>561928824switched to zaurus lockzero druids HAHA meow
>>561929723if it makes you feel better the druids always discover sleep paralysis or poison weapon for your ultragiga
im literally cant win with any deck>druid>shaman>druid>shaman>druid>shaman>druid>shaman
>>561907356>MTGA is a better gameI disagree, they transformed Standard into a total shitshow, there's some saving grace in the other formats the client offers but the main game mode sucks ass
>have 2 poison stealth niggas in deck>still lose to turn 5 turtle
my first win today... im so proud
>>561877436Witchwood was trash though? Remember odd and even?
Spot the lethal
>>561931568scam warrior
>>561934319how did that even happen?
>>561937049yes
Playing some battlegrounds while I wait for the patch and Choose One cards not counting as battlecries is complete bullshit. Brann and Shudderwock are so shitty with all the half decent neutral battle cries turned into spells.
>>561937049No but it was Anomalize from discover that scrambled Tortolla and the 1 drop, and Rite of Atrocity gave me the Crazed Alchemist
>>561937049Mage shuffle stat spell rolls Turtle idk what spell rolls Alchemist something that adds minion to hand (discover 2cost)
I don't care what you stupid cunts say the moment the meta slows down with druid nerfs DK is gonna be tier 1. Healing 16 and summoning 2 random 8 drops then redoing it at least twice is bullshit.
>>561938319no because he still dies on turn 8 before big hitwhy ? no CE no sustainYou win without collosi if you survive 8 turns without hurting your hp
>>561938517Are you inbred or just retarded. I said if the meta slows down at all from nerfs. If druid isn't ramming it's retarded green dick down everyone's throat then the deck that heals 16 fucking health on turn 9 is obviously going to be overpowered as fuck.
>>561938673no, it's a mediocre play that does fucking nothing about he opponent's board. you are a gold 5 fucking redditor trashcan stop talking
stop FUCKING talking
>>561939063*rapes you*
>>561938673meta slow down ? thats now Cora Visionyou still die from Burn mageTurtle warriorHarold ShamanMachinegun hunter
>>561939215>not Cora Vision
where's the FUCKING leaks
when did this game peak in your opinionand when did it hit rock bottom
>>561946406>PeakBarrens before the discovery of control Priest>Rock bottomUnironically the tail end of last season
>>561934319I hope you traded to transfer the attack for BM
>>561931937Hearthstone could have easily been better if it were managed by competent developers, but it isn’t. It’s been over 10 years and this game is still basically the game but worse, with tons of RNG and bullshit mechanics. It took them ages to catch up with Magic in keywords (Lifesteal etc.) and most of the original mechanics they have come up with suck (Titan, Colossal etc.). We still can’t interact with graveyards making stuff like Resurrect Priest complete bullshit every few years. Magic has its own problems but it isn’t as dogshit as this game is, its main problem and the only reason Hearthstone is still alive is that the MTGA client looks like ass and that Hearthstone managed to keeps itself alive with Battlegrounds.
>>561947619I disagree with everyrhing you said
I've climbed a ridiculous amount with quest mage today
>>561949048Every time I play against quest mage they win or lose depending on the random bullshit they get, I dont need that stress in life
Only after getting legend I started to realize how evil imbue druid is>Treat them like aggro>They outvalue you>Treat them as midrange>They outaggro youI think the ones I played against on ladder were just piloted badly so I underestimated the deck. Every time I clear the board and they drop a wickerfang, or turn a single 2/2 minion into a 12/12 for lethal I want to throw my pc down the stairs
where the fuck is my gooner DH diamond skin bros..
>>561949183This was my last game lmao
I'm having lots of fun with Sinestra Rogue but I've realized this isn't actually a real deck, like the only time you win is because Flashback is a really good card. The rest is just dressing to make it seem like you're doing things instead of just playing Flashback and winning off Flashback tempo until you can vanish their 2 times into Deathwing or maybe get a funny highroll off Herald.
>>561923238burn mage is pretty decent, but it's probably the best it's ever going to be since seeing how mad people are at aggro being a legitimate strategy you can be sure they're going to print a billion strong taunts + shitloads of neutral lifesteal + make DK T1 again in no time
>>561938319That only happens on turn 13 because you're playing a do nothing Priest controlpile.To get full Herald by turn 9 DK needs to spend every turn before doing extremely strong plays such as:Play a 2/5 + a 1/1 for 4 manaPlay a 1/1 and deal 4 damage to the enemy board for 6 mana DK herald cards are so slow and so weak they genuinely make Envoy look like a decent card by comparison. People pretend DK is only being oppressed by Druid but it has only 1 favoured matchup which is Priest. Anything that plays a strong board it just loses against. Druid isn't even its worst matchup, it's Shaman (loses 68% of the time vs Shaman), and DH, Paladin and Warrior are just as bad as Druid.It's a shitty deck. It's very likely that they will print broken Blood rune cards and make DK T1 again because DK has to always be T1 but I'm like 90% sure current won't make the cut in that deck unless they massively buff their Herald cards.
>>561938319Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
>>561946406Arguably launch, FoN only bullshitRag and Sylv only randomness, at least you had to invest manaNaxx/GvG were downgrades (random shit like Doom/Sneed/Toshley/Neptulon) and carried by the launch set, TGT was well-designed (Inspire, Justicar) but underwhelming, BRM was the first improvement to the launch but felt like 2.0 more than an expansion, LoE arguably peak, seemed to want to fix the randomness with Discover and Reno was both a cool and healthy card in an unending aggro meta, WOG was flavorful and C'Thun was based but Yogg/Y'Shaarj sucked, Malkorok/Xaril highrolls too, overall it was a downgrade from LoE, ONiK was awful (BARNES, Medivh/Malchezaar creatively bankrupt)MSG to WW was the golden age imo>MSGTribes were cool, support for singleton decks, held back by Jade outshining the rest of the set>JtUQuests, adapt, tons of cool decks, even the random cards were fun like Elise having to draw the pack and being limited to the set, Lyra sucked but overall the set was only held back by Quest Rogue>KFTSimilar to WOG, it was flavorful but with a lot of bullshit, Rotface/Rexxar/Thrall/Putricide and Sindragosa/Lilian on a smaller scale but it was more enjoyable because it shifted the meta to control and hero cards and lifesteal were good additions>K&CDisappointing after hero cards but in hindsight it was better designed (Marin being fairer randomness), weapons should have been stronger (all matching rogue's power level) to have a bigger impact>WWCan be argued for the peak of the game, Baku/Genn were cool, rush fixed the charge problem, echo, Chameleos and the Shaman hero card were bullshit but the rest of random was mid (Toki/Collector, Liam was fine because deckbuilding)TBP/RR/RoS/SoU weren't bad and were better than some of the past sets in some ways in hindsight but felt extremely creatively bankrupt and their own gimmicks were bland and boring, DoD is when the game started to really decline but I quit so I can't say the rock bottom
>>561949356Yeah it's literally the perfect deck. They have infinite steam due to Amirdrassil, can actually come back on the board due to the chameleon, taunts and hatchery helper, best snowball right now due to Cub, you need to clear every single board they make due to Forest's Gift. Oh and they also ramp and can tempo out like motherfuckers. They can even deal with Tortolla due to the "Discover a choose one card" shit.It needs to be killed genuinely.
>>561954003You have very poor communication skills
teaser in a few hours bros hold on
shaman tokens should probably be 1/1 - 4/42 mana 4/3 + 4/8 seems a tad overtuned
>>561958676True, I also think the only new deck from the expansion should be nerfed.
Why was my hand bricked harder next game than any other game during the climb?
>>561958676I'll take it if they buff Envoy to 4
Genuinely when I look at the current Imbue Druid list it's harder to find a card that doesn't need a nerf that one that does. Even Malorne is giga broken on this fucking deck.But I guess the biggest problem is Hamuul being one of the worst designed cards ever. People say to up him to every 3 spells but I think that leaves space for the deck still being playable, I'd just nuke him from orbit and make him every 4 spells so the deck never ever comes back.
it's just depressing that the game is run by people who are not only bad at the job that they're supposed to be doing, but also bad at the job that they're doing instead. the fucking algo is embarrassingly badly made. you can tell which player has been chosen by the algo by turn 4, invariably. they don't even give enough of a shit to make it hard to notice.
Wow this guy needed exactly to roll the 4/2 weapon that draws a card into exactly precursory strike or suffusion to win and you will never guess EXACTLY what happened lol! Right after my 6 game winstreak too!
3 games in a row against warrior3 games in a row gladiatorial combat into dracorex
>>561961502LmaoI couldn't care less since I'm just doing quest at d5 but 3 glad highrolls into coined elusive 6/8 on curve Currently in a game going 2nd vs Shaman with T1 Twilight Egg so I'm pretty sure I'm also losing this one
>>561961648>I couldn't care less since I'm just doing quest at d5 but 3 glad highrolls into coined elusive 6/8 on curve With charge** forgot to mention
>Dormant>Corrupt>Overkill>Excavate>Titan>Location>Infuse>Dredge>Colossal>Dark Gift>Rewind>Fabled>Starship>Tourist>GigantifyWhat's the shittiest mechanic?
>>561961729overkill was unplayableinfuse was only dogshit because the cards were overpowered tourist was not good game designrest are fine
Nice, hopefully there's a decent deck for this once Druid gets kneecapped and I can play honest ramp up and play bombs Druid again.
>>561961729Since there are multiple ways you can interpret 'shittiest', I have to agree with that other anon.Dark Gift also gets an honorable mention from me because it's the most tacked-on, low-effort mechanic of the bunch. It's not exactly interesting and created some annoying high-roll situations (like Creature of Madness into a +4/5 Taunt minion as an example).
>>561963250I picked the most low effort/bullshit ones
>>561955727i had no issue reading that post maybe you are the problem
>>561961729>worsttitan, tourist, infuse>bestcolossal, dredge, location
>>561961729location is good, it's basically a magic enchantement or yugioh's monster except it can't attackrewind is also good, it makes the game less randomtitan is weird but it's not as bad as the other onesthe rest are pretty shit, pointless or stupid though
>>561964897ok i missed somedormant is also goodcolossal is middredge is good but problematic desuin general i hate keywords who give you free stuff for just playing the game like overkill and infuse and dark gift and undermine the game's identity like tourist and starship
>>561961729>GigantifyThat one just seems pointless to me. Not only is the effect irrelevant in all but the slowest of matchups, but it's also exclusive to a small handful of cards so it shouldn't be a keyword in the first place.
>>561965465fucking hell
you now remember duels
>>561968151I loved duels, i have more games in duels than all other game modes combined
>>561968151Duels were pretty fun. Shame the current dev team can't be bothered to balance a roguelite mode.
>>5619654654 mana blob died for this
dead setdead gamedead general
>>561974447ty cora!
shartstone...
>>561946406bottom when they introduce Zeph and bullshit game winning *Random* discovers after that algo dictates your wins not your skills
>>561961729recruit
what do you think was the biggest factor that caused this game to die?
>>561964897>Rewind makes the game less RNGWe already had a mechanic for controlled RNG, its called Discover
>>561982294Incompetent devs obviously.
>>561982294hiring cora
>>561982294>>561982423
>win ONE game against imbue druid with my masterfully deckbuilt elemental fire mage deck>suddenly matchmaking stops workinghow quaint
I kinda want to make Genn Mage once the update drops.
>play druid>or play highroll warriorholy shit we need that patch yesterday
>>561982294ben brode leaving
>>561986061marvel snap is dying just as bad though
>>561987212Ben Brode was our quirk chungus and we lost sovl when he leftnow you have an annoying fat romanian instead
what are the chances of shaman getting nerfed?druid will obviously get hit with a nerf but im tired of facing both
>>561987702They need to up the cost of the draw option by 2 and add overload to the new 0 mana spell.
>game is currently so shit firebat is giving up on streaming for the day after only 2 hourslmao
>>561987702Zero if their not retarded, It's one of the actually new decks that's somewhat decent.
nice
>>561987702shaman heralds will get nerfed to be 1/1s so they dont end up as retarded 4/8s when fully heralded
>>561988037hope youre ready for this and scam warrior to be the new meta once the druid nerfs happen
>>561982294Game was too expensive to get into for yearsNo alternative modes for yearsYogg's viral youtube highlights mindbreaking the team into printing random cards for years turning the game into a jokeNot taking advantage of the game's initial (first 4 years) successNot listening to the players' feedbackRefusing the nerf broken cards for monthsDeleting modes out of the game for no reasonHaving grudges against certain classes dictate powercreep and rotations (tons of people quit because their favorite class was dogshit for multiple sets in a row while Druid and Hunter are allowed to punch your face until you die turn 4)Ben Brode leaving unironically because the rest of the team seemed clueless which resulted in the dogshit streak of sets of 2019 and enforced the narrative that he was the one carrying the gameThe game recycling past beloved mechanics for nostalgia bait instead of trying to improve the game which resulted in tons of sets feeling like reheated slop, see >>561961729In short >>561982495
why havent they announced the nerfs yet?
>>561934319>Rite of Atrocitycrazy. under any other circumstances i'd call you a faggot but it couldn't have happened against a better class. salute.
>>561987212it's dying because it's impossible for a new player to get into it because of how expensive everything is but the game in itself is better than hearthstone
>>561946406League of explorers was the beginning of the end
>>561988716God that reminds me how long it took them to nerf Patches.
>>561988716Also forgot: not releasing new classes until the game was on its last legs and making them OP on purpose when they did to compensate
game sux
>>561989219day one demon hunter lmaooooooooooooooooooooo
>still having ysondre in your deck when people it was a cut on day two
i want to run my sig :(
>>561989370its good into other matchups than druid
should cost 1
>>561988716>Ben Brode leaving unironically because the rest of the team seemed clueless which resulted in the dogshit streak of sets of 2019 and enforced the narrative that he was the one carrying the gameIt can't be a coincidence. You can excuse sets like Naxx and Goblins because they were the first expansions but after that the game kept getting better and better, then after Ben Brode left we got a neverending streak of AWFUL sets. I'm not saying he was the one carrying the game but he probably coordinated everyone better. The game has gotten better since 2019-2020 but it hasn't reached the peak of 2014-2018 again, every mechanic they have introduced since has been mid to bad, they have just powercrept the fuck out of the game with stats.
>>561987702I think they can probably afford to not nerf Shaman. It has 4 bad matchups (DH, Druid, Hunter and Mage)I think however no minion DH probably could use a little nerf. Maybe just making location 7 mana would be enough. It just seems like it will be the next meta tyrant and it only has one bad matchup which is Druid.What they should really look into is buffing stuff a bit though. Burn mage could use a bit of love, so could the non Shaman heralds. But if you buff heralds as a whole (via Envoy) then Shaman could probably get a tiny nerf.
>>561988716crazy to think there was a time when this game didn't have legendary pity timers/catch up packs/help for returning players/free decks/loaners/duplicate protection/apprentice track and you didn't get shit when a new set dropped. people rejoiced and licked blizzard's feet when they gave everyone c'thun lmao
>>561988025random chinese autist can go rank 1 with shit decks but loser streamers cry and shit their pants when they are forced to play druid and warriorpathetic
you guys complain all day like there is anything better than hearthstone to playthere isn't, that's why you are here
>>561991716shadowverse 2
>>561992458>25% positive reviewslol
>>561991716I havent really played much at all, waiting for patch and playing other games atm
>4 shamans in a row>switch to spell dh>malfurion stormrage
>>561990249DH deserves NOTHING
bro WHAT takes you so long to think what to do on TURN 2
>>561991716This is my waiting room for Alysion open beta.
>>561988327both matchups seem pretty manageable as herald rogue tho
>>561987456>fat romanianwho?
Quest mage in relatively high ranks in this druid/warrior hell, feels like a solid deck. There's definitely a high skill ceiling to it. Don't ask how many games I played.
pro players tears have been absolutely delicious. game would be amazing once they all quit and work at burger king
>>561923698Thanks for the recommendation I loved it!>>561954003Sorry anon I enjoyed the effortpost
Been playing arena like I said I would, can confirm better than shittedstone
>>562002401battlegrounds is the only way to enjoy hearthstone and the devs refuse to support it because they know standard is a mess and they can't milk as much money off battlegrounds
hearthstone > mtga > master duel > snap > pokemon
>>562002637I meant MTGA lol
>>562003070i know
>>562002637I thought battlegrounds was cool until I realized the game is just "who gets infinite recursive chungus first"
>>562004023bgs is fun but its incredible frustrating how early you snowball or worse how terrible you get punished for not snowballing. Ive been taking like 20 dmg on turn 5 so many times its incredible
>>562004468I tried to play naga once but they have no infinitechungus and shop scaling is bad so I lost to 300000/300000 mechs
Welp, got Commander Geddon as my level 50 leggo. Time to see if he's any fun in Wild with Kil'jaeden
>>562005385The team thought he was "really strong" btw
>>561877172dead man hand's warrior
>my leggo is chudormu the unplayablecool..
>>562008261end of turn paladin will be a real thing after druid gets pissed on
>>562005607Yeah, he's uh. He's really slow. Too slow, even. Being able to pick the demon I want is helpful but just trying only one per turn isn't good enough, the best way to use KJ is still Dark Portal Warlock (plus Sargeras)However, just the virtue of having KJ in my deck did allow me to cuck some of the many, many Dew Process Druids, which was worth a few laughs.
>every game is now scam warrior or dragon warrior holy shit fucking kill yourselves actually
>5 warriors in a rowKILL YOURSELVES YOU FUCKING RETARDED NET DECKING NIGGERFAGGOTS YOU WOULD BE FUCKING DEAD WITHOUT THE INTERNET FEEDING YOU FUCKING RETARDS WHAT CARDS TO PLAY FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES YOU FUCKING NIGGERFAGGOTS
>>562009395I am not going to play trooid sorry
>>562009553THEN PLAY LITERALLY FUCKING ANYTHING ELSE SHAMAN MAGE HUNTER PRIEST YOU FUCKING NIGGERFAGGOT
>>562009717>play unplayable decks nooo i'm trooooning!!!No
The egg warrior is kind of the new blob DH, 3 mana to remove the enemy board from the game sort of like return policy
>>562009395there's always a better scam, I queue egg warlock just to piss on the warriors
>>562005385Me too, what a piece of crap. Control and combo don't want it because it burns their deck, aggro and midrange don't want him because he's a 7 mana do nothing. Literally a card for no one, felt like shit to see his ugly mug.
>>562010069I meant the gladiator deck
>>562010793>Literally a card for no oneThe devs said on a livestream that he was really strong THOUGH
I played a shitty deck in Wild on purpose, what the fuck lol, this guy was Warrior, play Thaddius, damage it i forgot how then copy it with bloodsword mercenary I think, then he can cast another for cheap, then he can have unlimited draw and get goes Baron Rivendare casts 0 mana until he plays them all and I died. stories
>>562013280that's the usual wild experience, I play solitaire with nazmani priest and garrote rogue
>>562013280In Wild you have three options>Aggression that wins before Turn 5 (before the Reno cards ruin every board based strategy at the earliest)>Insta-win OTKs because Druid and Warrior have too much fucking life gain>Druid/Warrior greedpilesAnd that's it
cataclysm is already boringwhen's next set
Priest is weird because their cards feel strong but the class overall is shit. I think it's because they need too many combo pieces for everything, but I was fooling around a bit and for example the 2 mana deal 5 to a minion then heal 5 feels super strong with Ruby Sanctum out. Ruby Sanctum is obviously a super good card. 1 mana deal 4 to board is obviously crazy good, though it sucks that you have the run the shitty quest. The 4/5 that improves healing effects is great, if the effect is out then suddenly vampiric plague is heal 12/20 for 3 mana.I honestly think they might have the shell for something decent here, if they get good cards next expansion then who knows. I feel like Mage is in a similar spot, they both got good support cards but nothing that really creates a strong archetype.
it's literally all warrior now, druid is gonepeople prefer to play the braindead retard deck it turns out
>>562020986they are just playing what counters druid
>>562021427what counters them?
>>562021484warrior shits on druid
>>562022203I KNOW THAT. IM ASKING WHAT COUNTERS THE WARRIORS YOU FUCKING RETARD. GET SOME FUCKING READING COMPREHENSION
>>562022290you didnt specify what class you sperg you just said 'them' and the post you replied to was talking about druid
>>562018963They printed a 4 mana 4/5 in 2026 so yeah
I LOVE RAPING SHAMANS
This board cost me 2 mana to generate
>scout shaman hand>shaman has envoy ultrax dw and alakir(full)in handyep thats lose...
Who is dragon warrior now ? (my winning game btw)
>>562029357next gamealmost clear itand yes i got 10 mana spell from first invokeAlgo not even hide presence
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/1s839sk/when_you_really_need_to_kill_that_cub/>What's more impressive? 8 cards to kill a minion, or 8 cards played on turn 3?
something something the mini-set will save us something something
>"looks good" - dev team
>>562033340Alright, /hsg/, which of these two is the worse card?
why didnt they announce what was getting nerfed today?
What should i play ? im new to this game
They should hire this dude 10 years agohttps://youtu.be/HU2C7I7YtXM?t=1403>go first>winHoly Prophet !
have some wild decks I found on twitter:https://www.hsguru.com/deckviewer?code=AAEBAa0GBogFtbsC0P4Cy80D4t4Dh%2FcDDNHBAoL3AsrhA4qjBKK2BKSRBe33BfGpBuTjBsWUB9KvB5n8BwAA%2CAAEBAea5Awb39gOw%2BQP8wAaKqgeSqgeTqgcMqbwD8skDztID9fYDiJIF4fgFxfkFnJoG38AGn%2FEG4rEHkr8HAAA%3D%2CAAEBAZ8FBowBwP0ChJYFvI8GzpwGg8IHDIgO%2BNICg94DkeQDzusDyaAE4aQEwcQFhY4GmY4G9ZUGmvwHAAA%3D%2CAAEBAf0GCOAF9MYF7qEGxKIGlbMGqYgH748H1r4HC5DHAufLAvLQAp2pA9P5A6bqBISeBvejBtGCB4SZB4adBwAA%2CAAEBAZICKF%2FkCIoOwxaFF6DOAo%2F2AvX8AvyjA%2Bi6A6%2BABImLBM%2BsBOWwBK7ABJfvBOKkBf3fBZ%2FzBdv6BdGeBpegBpqgBoOhBomhBsekBq%2BoBu%2BpBqW7BoG%2FBrrBBvPKBrHOBqn1BsODB9uXB4KYB6qvB76yB9fABwAAAQP1swbHpAb3swbHpAbu3gbHpAYAAA%3D%3D%2CAAEBAZICAvX8Av%2BtAw78rQPw1AOV4APs9QOvgASunwSuwATO5AWw%2BgXZ%2FwWsngbJ0AaqrwfbwAcAAA%3D%3D%2CAAEBAf0EDsAB5dEDne4DoIoE5bAEqd4El%2B8Eo5AF%2FcQFxscFp9MG9eIGquoG25cHDcsE4MwDyt4E4MMF0PgF0Z4GtKcGtqcGwr4G8skGpeEGmvQGs4cHAAED5dED%2FcQFvO0E%2FcQFpsMF%2FcQFAAA%3D%2CAAEBAa0GCJG8Aq33A7v3A4ujBMeyBJfvBM%2F2BdfSBhChBLq2A6P3A6fkBIaDBd2kBYWOBtCeBpigBsShBsSoBte6BtXBBuTqBtzzBqyUBwAA&compare_decks=false&rotation=false
>>562033930this one >>562033340
>>562036135I've started getting a bit more interested in Wild recently, but I'm really unfamiliar with most of these types of decks.How does that 'XL Shadow Priest' one work? Is it really as simple as playing aggro and pinging your opponent whenever you can with the shadow HP? Or is there something more advanced I'm missing?
>>562037905>Is it really as simple as playing aggro and pinging your opponent whenever you can with the shadow HP?yes, pretty much
>make Mage Reno deck in Wild>used to run Frost Lich Jaina, Baron Geddon, etc.>every card now is so much better and provides a lot more healing for a lot less mana>Reno hero is like 10x better AND cheaperGuess I'm ditching my beloved
Shaman more broken than druid btw.... free draws face damage due to fabled rush everywherebasically if they kill druid 99% ladder turns into shamans
Well troon'd! I consneed!
>>562041730It doesn't matter what your opinions are, what matters is what works in top 20 legend
paladin desperately needs good 1-drops i can't take it anymorewhen do WE get the 1 mana 2/2 with positive effect???
>rogue cant break my BIG taunt with one card for sureOopsie..... sorry topdeck into lethal should play more agressive
>>5620426971/1 with divine shield is best 1 drop ever printed for pala....
>>562043095yeah but it can't be the ONLY one i think the 1 mana 2/1 divine shield was better thoughit's literally impossible to play for early game
>>562018963I've been playing priest for a bit this set and the biggest issue is that all your cards do one thing until you get to Medivh so you have to make terrible decisions against cards like Twilight Egg and your only answer to Herald boards is Triumph unless you've somehow managed to stick some bodies on board to trade with. You also play slow enough that highroll bullshit can sometimes just roll you like Dark Gift cards.
Another win for BASED 1star Ze..y weapon
blizzards silence is DEAFENING
dark gift is genuinely the worst mechanic ever createdi'm tired of losing to randumbly generated charge or 2 mana 7/7s
>>562046350and dark gifts was fucking shit when they released.... still shit technically because set contains 21 dark gift cards and popular only 3 (2 warrior 1 neutral)
Why people still play egg ? even tier 5 dragon/herald/imbue/thief rogue can beat it
>>562049087not every class has a non destruction board wipe anon
greetings whiteboi, will you play 4 mana 3/3 gain +3 health at the end of turn (only if at full health) or 4 mana 6/8 elusive?the choice is yours...
>>562049874i play 3 mana whelp that counter both sloppers
>>561982294They insist on rigging and a tragic lack of transparency in general.
>>562041730my experience as well, both warrior and shaman feel more broken than imbue druid
>>562033340what were they thinkingat least give it Immune this turn or some shitwhat minion can even trade into shit 4 times without dying
>>561946406Naxx. I honestly don't know why I keep playing this dogshit. Fucking discoverstone
>>562049874i will play 4 mana 4/5 healing yeti
should have... uhhhh.... i should have.....idk just drawn.... something
ok instead of killing me he emoted and left me at 2 health and let me summon my big lifesteal taunts and I won... thanks?
you know this meta is shit but then i remember i haven't heard ACTION PACKED PERFECTION in a minute + DK is shit and eh it ain't that bad if they fix druid
shaman vs shaman ok nice mirror>my opponent generated a buildaboard spell turn 3 so I lostokdelete this shit please, stop printing this
teaser today bros hold the line
>>562064932tomorrow, about 30 hours from now
I don't get why every fucking aggro deck in this game can have infinite steam then you have Burn Mage which is much weaker than the rest of aggro decks and also runs out of steam in 4 turns
>>562067494because mage doesn't need to play minions
why doesn't algo match niggerdruids with each other and let us normal people enjoy the game?
>>562067494because redditards hate mage and devs pander to themas soon as mage gets a tier 3 deck they complain 24/7 until they gut itit's why they turned the class from freeze mage/control to perma bottom tier random bullshitthey are fine with getting pummeled by hunter and druid in 3 turns with minions without any chance to make a comeback but mage killing from hand after 999 turns of setup is "op"
I DID IT!LEGEND NEXT MONTH
>>561891131It just feels like win lose or draw I had 0 agency over the game. As long as your deck is A tier, you just click the cards when they glow green and in 5 minutes you either win or lose. The game has the capacity to be fun, it just wants to be a slot machine instead of a card game.
This is the worst state of the game ever and i don‘t think it‘s particularly close. My previous most hated meta was nathria renethalstone but this is way worse
Got legend with face hunter from d3 to legend without a single loss, I'm willing to bet my life that the matchmaking is rigged to give you streaks, yesterday I couldn't get past D3, today I couldn't lose a game. I'm happy that there's a semi-viable hunter deck, but the game is just bullshit and I don't think any meta shifts will ever change this.
>>562064932Teaser for what>>562072957>Semi-viableTop 5 nigga
What would you cut for Garona in herald Rogue? I'm not wasting 1600 dust on a tech card.
>>562075963The harold taunt (another copy if you only run 1), Mirrex and maybe one fast forward
>>561874656I heard shadowstep is no longer core. Did Jalex rope himself?
>>562077505no the game roped itself
>>562077505the shadowstep haters will forever be the biggest losers in this game and I dont even like jalex
>>562077505No because rogue is still viable (to the surprise of no one).
>>562071950Except for Imbue Druid and Gladiator Warrior I like this meta
shadowstep is cringe when r*gue does it but it will be based when monk does it
>>562078589I‘m sure every meta is good if you pretend that the garbage decks are playable
>>562078813if you can take it to legend it's p;ayabke simple asand if you can get the extra legend placement star with it then it's meta
the hate is on druid of course but i'd like to point out that Warrior has had at least a T2 and usually a T1 deck uninterrupted since Emeraldand barring Druid which is probably getting killed soon it got easily the highest quality cards overall this expansion as well. Torch is one of the most broken spells ever printed
>>562079160t. Wildychud schizo
Kill this class. Genuinely. Massacre it. Destroy it. Make it unplayable for at least six months.
>>562079698i don't play wild>>562079801that's the dev favourite class, a slap on the wrist is the most you'll getimbue druid will be viable all year btw
my experience as a roguechad is that Druid is essentially cheating and is clearly not designed to be a deck anybody can beat (except another Druid I guess), glad warrior is basically a coinflip pretending to be a match, dragon warrior is rough but winnable, and shaman can be difficult but also feels mostly winnable. oh and burn mage is almost impossible but it's a deck that should counter rogue so that's okay. rest are whatever
I quit somewhere around Kobolds and Catacombs. Returned to this expansion and holy fuck. As someone who always hated aggro, i rather just play the most braindead aggro deck now. Anything that goes beyond turn 5-6 is a discover RNG fiesta where nothing really matters and it can take 15 mins to lose the game from a winning position in a single turn from some bullshit.I always liked playing midrange shit but that seems miserable now.
>>562079801I never got this. What does it matter if it's Druid that's dominating if it's the deck that causes trouble, not something specific to the class?>It's druid specific mechanics that make the game unenjoyableAs if Paladin hasn't had mana cheat for a year, wasn't buffing board, DH hasn't had a full board for free every turn etcEach class had problematic decks, how about you shit and piss about the decks themselves? Priest had the shadow deck which was not your regular type of priest cancer but was cancer nonetheless. By the way I think druids are barefoot hippy zoophiles so don't even try
>>562083156>What does it matter if it's Druid that's dominating if it's the deck that causes trouble, not something specific to the class?despite being only 18% of the classes, hunter and druid are broken meta 50% of the time, curious!you can ignore this and pretend like it's not a problem with the class, but even in your examples for other classes you listed 3 core tenants of druid as a class (mana cheat, boardwide buffs and free full board BS) which druid almost always has and when other classes occasionally get it they are mysteriously also bullshit OP, i wonder if it's a matter of druid's identity being inherently broken so the devs always end up making broken cards for it "accidentally" or something like that
>>562079616truth nuke!!!!!!!!!!
>>562079616agreed warrior needs to be raped tooinsane control nigger cards and also has insane damage on top of it the only reason it isn't raping everyone is that it has a piss poor matchup against druid
>>562079801Chameleon seriously needs to either have the +2 health removed or get upped to 2 cost.
>>562085343You need to nerf like 20 cards in Druid because the problem is that no class can deck with the amount of boards it can put out. But chameleon is a likely target. The harshest nerfs should be the sleepy whore, Hamuul, chameleon, circle and forest's gift.
>>562084208delusional
>>562086075Oh and hatchery helper too
If they nerf druid without assfucking the shaman cancer deck too we are in deep shit. I don't wanna play cuckloseum warrior the entire expansion.
>>562084208>mana cheatAlso core for Rogue, Mage, Demon Hunter, Death Knight, Paladin and Priest for the better part of last year and I'm sure I'm missing some. Seems like the meta in this game is just consistently shit>boardwide buffs Paladin, Death Knight, Shaman + others on occasion >free full board Don't even make me list them >despite being only 18% of the classes, hunter and druid are broken meta 50% of the time, curious!That's the case with any class you dumb fucking silly man. CTRL-F "unplayable" in 5 /hsg/ and you'll find any number of anons calling the game unplayable when X class is good. Up until the rotation it was Warrior and Demon Hunter. Look at how many people were happy that Mage and Priest didn't get shit because "the game is better when they suck"Name any class you like you fucking silly man and I'll name 3 cancerous decks it had in the past 3 years
>>562086518Shaman is weaker than people think. It's very strong and should probably get a little nerf if they nerf Envoy to give a hand to the Herald classes which seems likely, but Shaman does badly into- DH- Hunter- MageBoth Hunter and Mage are significantly oppressed by Druid like everyone else, but they should be able to keep Shaman down themselves.Gladiator Warrior is a fucking dogshit deck and should be entirely gutted. Hopefully that's what happens.The most likely meta tyrant once Druid gets nerfed if there are no other changes is actually DH. No minion DH only has a bad matchup into Druid, and slightly unfavoured into Dragon Warrior, which isn't a very strong deck.
>>562089482imo Shaman needs 3 hits. Increase the initial cost of the draw card so they can't make it cost 0 by turn 7, give the new 0 mana spell 1 overload, and hit Twilight Egg as an indirect nerf to shaman and druid.
>>562090229Nice silver opinions, not even tier 0 70% winrate meta tyrants get three nerfs in one patch, you people are incredibly delusional when it comes to how strong decks are.
odds on them doing an april fools patch
>game became way worse after rotation How did they do it
>>562090229Druids run Twilight Egg? I've only seen the Longneck one in every single aggro druid deck. Also fuck statick shock give it overload for sure.
>>562091250I'd rather face druid for a year than demon hunter for a day
>>562091250not really. druid is overtuned, but that can be fixed way easier than zilliax and starcraft
>>562091250Years of experience
>>562091250they've been doing that for the last 6 years
>>562079801that's nothing a druid punched me in the face with a 10 attack bear on turn 3
>>562090229That'd be way overkill for one of the few Cata decks that landed. Most of the power from Shaman comes from the strong stats on their heralds, all herald cards are pretty trivial to clear except their minions, which also compounds with them heralding the fastest. Their herald cards are the best performing cards in the deck.At most you could do the Twilight Egg nerf, but the deck can probably stay without needing more nerfs. If burn decks become more popular shaman will have to become greedier running healing rain which in turn will make them weaker to aggro/proactive decks.
>>562079801She can't keep getting away with ithttps://youtu.be/Wx0kXh8KsJQ
>>562096472stupid brat!
>>562082945>Anything that goes beyond turn 5>can take 15! mins Post ends in 5. The king of card games does it again.
>>562090935>get three nerfs in one patchOh yeah, it's much better for a card to be nerfed 3 times over an entire year than get it done all at once and still end up completely overpowered in the precise case of Zilliax. Have you played through Badlands out of curiosity?
>>562093869I've seen both just because hatchery helper is busted.
>>562098563hatchery should only work on 1-atk
JUST ANNOUNCE THE FUCKING NERFS ALREADY YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER COCKSUCKING COMPANY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Another pack in the Bnet shop btw
I don't need it... I don't need it...
paypig for she
>>562099094Are you sure?
>>562099198The +20% value:
bros shes tempting me again...
>>562099403why'd they make ahri a priest
>>562099094IIIIIIIIIII NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IIIIITTTT!!!!!!!!!>>562099403i bought this one lol but cant play as her or use her because any time I see whitemane i need to start jacking off to her
I'm finishing top 800 this better be a x11 star or else...
>>562099057There's also a signature in the in game shop, the 3/1 Herald from DH.
Purple's always pretty
Imagine the blowjobs
>>562105214looks like she would bite it off...
42 minute of peak priest vs priest imbue slop
>>562106605diaper status?
>>562099094I almost bought itThen remembered Mage has been ass for two years
>>562105214>>562105948looks like she'd stretch her mouth a lot while sucking like in those cropped memes
Hit fatigue halfway into the match>>562106839Changed it 3 times already
>>562105214>Rewind
>>562091101No need. We got an april fools expansion
>>562106839Filled & warm
>>562099094>>562099198>>562099585This entire general has agp...
Patch teaser.
>>562108226WOW, that's horrible. Killing both druid and shaman, and the buffs aren't even that weird, why buff rogue? Holy fucking shit this is ass. And they unironically nerfed that warrior deck, holy shit this might actually be the worst thing ever.
>>562108226>moonwell buffthats so grim lol
>>562108226>wild nerfsLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>562108226Not bad. Idk if shaman needs a double nerf but it‘s terrorizing shitter ranks apparently so i get it. Buffs are a joke and they should have done way more but the current balance team is full of giant pussies so i‘m not too surprised
>>562108705>>562108226looks like its killing ice block mage and nazami priest. this is a good thing
>>562108226Rogue herald 3 drop buff. Classic Reddit influenced patch.
Hopefully the flight of the firehawk nerf is just a stats nerf cause shaman doesn‘t have much great draw>>562108416That warrior deck is another “play the card on 5 and win“ deck like chemical spill warrior. Good riddance
>>562108226>Not buffing Priest other than Colossal>Buffing somehow RogueCora...
>>562108226How do you nerf the Undertaker bear? 2 mana? +1 attack only without the health buff?
>>562109049>>562108947yeah people complained that its too slow and theyre fucking retarded
>>562109049>Not buffing Priest other than ColossalThey're also buffing Moonwell, for some reason.
>>562108226looks good. hopefully the rogue buff is making it 2 mana and battlecry
>rogue got a buff over mage and fucking warlockYou actually can't make this shit up. These retards are beyond all hope.
>>562109204if they change it to 6 mana 3 damage 3 heal Im gonna fucking scream and shit
>>562108226>Rogue buffHoly shit cora put those hash brownies down. They're that scarab brownies
>>562108226Confront the Tol'vir not getting nerfed is a surprise. I figured it got complained about enough to at least get hit with a +1 mana cost.Spell DH is probably going to be in the running for the next best deck in Standard.
>>562109524dh and hunter are gonna be giga broken because I very much doubt dk and priest buff are enough and rogue is weak to both
>>562109524Both dh and hunter are very beatable. Imbue druid isn’t unless you play a scam deck like warrior
Blackblood bros... we are so back...
>>562109524basically this >>562109757you can 100% outlast hunter and dh if your deck is built to do ityou cannot keep up with druid's best starts even if your entire deck is built around it, their early boards are insane
>>562110018imagine getting BLACK blooded
>>562108226>Humter under radar will become new Meta TyrantHUNTER CHADS LETS GOOO
>>562110018BLACKED blood needs a huge buff to even become viable anon
>>562108226>Romnath once per gametorture mage bros...
>>5621105286 mana 8/8
>>562109447this card has weird design since reveal i hope they just change it to battlecry
This isn't Confront the Tol'vir. Wtf is it?
Can‘t wait to play herald shaman when the patch drops to skullfuck all the diaperfags that think it‘s safe to come out now
>>562110935Shaman card Herald
>>562108512>Rajjet look at stats for priest>ok my misstress Cora>what is lowest played spell here ?>moonwell my queen>Buff it !
>>562111080This Priest buff will do nothing, the class will remain dead and fucking devs should die for this.
>>562108226They really should buff a bit more aggressively but I'll take the maniacal one
There's no rhyme or reason for any of their changes. They complained all of this time for a bored based meta, then we get one, and they immediately murder the decks. The only constant is that rogue needs to be tier 1 no matter the meta and dh dodging everything because It's only good in legend.
>>562112119how many times do you retards need to be told, its not a board based meta when all you do is vomit on board and go face. if you're dead by turn 4 you dont even have time to do anything
>>562110935It's a Djinn with a flametongue totem up it's ass.
>>562112119>they immediately murder the decks.there will still be plenty of board based decks after they tone down druid and shaman
>>562112119>board based metaexplain why my hp is 10 on turn 4 ? yes i play minions every single turn
>>562112119>Nooooo my Aggro faggotry meta!!!I hope you suck as much dick as possible post nerf patch anon.
>>562112319You mean like like last year, when you had until turn 5 to stay on the board until no minion you ever played could stick? Yeah, we had so many board based decks like uhm, you know.... yeah those ones.>>562112357I'm sure face hunter is going to survive until the next balance patch. All the people complaining about shaman and druid are totally going to turn around and say how much they love being rushed down.>>562112513No one is saying druid was balance, but these changes are almost certainly completely remove it from play. What was the point of giving them a token set when It's just going to go away in two weeks.>>562112684It's, ok. I'm sure this time your garbage pile priest deck is going to finally mange to climb to gold.
I just realized there isn‘t a single combo deck in standard right now. How come combo players aren‘t bitching like control players that it isn‘t playable?
>>562111080i feel this is more accurate than i want to admit
I think it's time for hearthstone classic.A separate version where HS starts from the beginning again.
>>562112849Because every other archetype but Aggro is dead, no point in complaining when everything is the same.
>>562112995who's going to tell this guy
>>562113089i don't have the heart...
>>562112798yjk this is that magefaggot that spams this thread and complains about 'muh algo' all the timeyou should kill yourself NOW
I hope you guys know hunter has some extremely bad matchups that are also popular. I haven't played hunter in weeks because of warrior and dh.
>>562112849Otk priest and Otk paladin still exist but yeah >>562113076
>>562113584how exactly does paladin otk? what am I missing?
>rogue buffs*WHEEZING LAUGHTER*
Oh shit. If a rogue plays Naralex it around 67% they win the game. If turbo cancer aggro is nerfed and people try to play end game decks you won't be allowed to have minions on the board on turn 8 and 9. Spell DH will be the winner of this shit. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>562113584not even 50% win rate
>>562113997Weapon>Pirate>Slime>any charge(dark gift 1 mana minion) or minion on board
>>562113997infinite damage weapon, pirate, oozeit requires a minion on board or a charger and is stopped by a taunt but technically it's otk. warrior also has time warp muro. and DH can otk with his face (also stopped by taunt)
>>562114423Notice how all the otk decks you mentioned take like 15 turns to pull them off
>>562114150magesisters...
>>562114520this isn't a bad thing
>>562114310>>562114423ok I get it now but I've never seen anyone attempt it, only end of turn shitters and finjassounds infinitely more shit than priest though
did warlock not get any buffs, lol
>>562114886You don't get it, rogue was like tier 2 for a week or so. Something had to be done, they really needed it more when you think about it.
>>562114886cucklock is held back by other op bullshit, its not weak
>>562115306ah yes all the warlock decks gatekept by aggro like egg and...and uh....
>>562114886egglock is good, it's not broken but it's good
>>562114886>CoraWarlock? What is that? Something to eat?Better buff Rogue a class that actually needs help (to be tier 0) :^)
>>562114423its not a problem you can hold otk in hand then use equality conc next turn to clear board and send minion to faceusually you aim to 1 or 3 mana minion from dark gifts +2 mana buff
>>562115652anon I play it and its a total coinflip deck
hmm so spell dh gets away with it?
>>562115750>rogue buffholy shit bronze5 shieldbearers That card was just herald activator (clunky one) even if they change it to 2 mana Rogue still be tier2 at max
>>562112849I can't speak for all of us, of course, but I usually just get my coombo fix in Wild if there are no decks in standard that scratch the same itch. So I see no reason to complain constantly.There are a handful of cards that could be cool for Standard combos, but the meta is just too fast and aggressive to try anything that slow and janky whilst climbing ranks. I don't think this next patch will really change that fact all that much.Most OTK combos in Standard can only be achieved at turn 10+ and often require cards that can't be tutored from your deck. Combined with the generally mediocre draw for most classes right now and lacking defensive tools-it's quite difficult to pull off any OTK, let alone survive long enough.Priest has the most viable deck built around an OTK right now, and it completely crumples against an archetype like Herald Shaman (nearly an 80-20 matchup in Shaman's favor and Druid is in a similar boat).Don't get me wrong, I don't think this some sort of atrocity against combo players, it's just how the meta shook out this time.
>>562114638Not a bad thing if you don‘t want them to be playable
>>562108226Very glad they nerfed Gladiator Warrior, incredibly nigger deck. Druid and Shaman nerfs are overkill, I honestly think that Hamuul would have been sufficient (Token Druid Is good but not as broken as Imbue)
>>562112849Control players are toddlers.
10000 hours in photoshop
>>562119125nice reddit meme faggot
>>562119375fixed the issue
>>562119474mild kek
>>562119474It should also be "tranny meta"
The warrior deck is without a doubt one of the most braindead decks that have ever existed in this game
>>562114886he's gonna run rampant on wildnot that most of this general cares
>>562109049The only reasonable priest buff is putting Potion of Madness in standard.
>Old busted cards not getting hit with the nerf stick
i'm so skilled in this game we call hearthstone
Im happy wickerfag wasnt nerfed
>>562123435Why would they nerf the only good colossal
>>562123753because retarded fags probably cried about it a lot.I would love to see the play or pick rates for the colossals and mainly want to see how low the mage's is. has anyone seen it in a game since the expansion dropped?
Did you get it, anon?
Boy i can't wait to play against solitaire priest every game.
>>562126152yeah, but i'm pretty sure it was super close on eu, on na i was like ~200 something
>>562126152When I hit legend I immediately switch to off-meta decks and tank my mmr to ease climbing out of diamond the next month.
>>562126341Priest loses to No Minion DH so it's fine.
>Druid is going to get smacked next patch>get this in my packsDamn. I take back what I said. They should've nerfed Wickerfang too (I need more dust for my jank garbage).
>>562129018I don't give a shit it bores me to death on any class.
>>562129278you are a tranny mage nigger and you should kill yourself
>spell dh didn‘t get nerfed even though it‘s top tier because zeddy likes it and he has a direct line to the devsNice game
I'm trying imbue rogue without harold and with ashamane instead, it's fun
>Rafaamalam warlock is one Rafaam away from winning the game.>My board is full of maggots that ain't sucking fast enough>Your opponent left>Win>HS shat itselfThank you spirit of Ben Brode.
>>562109524>>562109721I am not worried about hunter while dragon druid is aroundI gained over 60 armor this game
>>562136762>Name not censoredI like your account. I think i will TAKE IT!
>>562137452imaging taking bottom legend account with ugly skin .... you must be desperate...
Servers down on EU?
>>562124069>I would love to see the play or pick rates for the colossalsI was curious about this myself, and since I'm stuck behind a desk for a while anyway, I decided to compile the HSguru numbers from expansion launch to today. These aren't ideal and don't tell the whole story, but they give a general idea where each Colossal stands.Total games per class and Colossal rates:Druid: 1,512,803 games./// Wickerfang: ~543,749 in ~36% of Druid decksShaman: 1,142,909 games./// Al'Akir: ~797,426 in ~70% of Shaman decksWarrior: 964,677 games./// Ragnaros: ~316,291 in ~32% of Warrior decksRogue: 752,262 games./// Sinestra: ~713,922 in ~95% of Rogue decksDeath Knight: 435,910 games./// Onyxia: ~341,062 in ~78% of DK decksPriest: 407,255 games./// Black Blood: ~16,173 in ~4% of Priest decksDemon Hunter: 383,759 games./// Azshara: ~111,551 in ~29% of DH decksHunter: 339,672 games./// Magmaw: ~12,286 in ~3.5% of Hunter decksMage: 293,227 games./// Vulcanos: ~27,899 in ~9.5% of Mage decksWarlock: 281,549 games./// Cho'gall: ~30,719 in ~11% of Warlock decksPaladin: 137,831 games./// Chromatus: ~5,748 in ~4% of Paladin decks (slightly higher than Priest)TL;DR:Most included Colossal overall: Al'AkirHighest inclusion percentage per class: SinestraLeast included Colossal overall: ChromatusLowest inclusion percentage per class: Magmaw
>>562138979tried to log... game just crashed.... well fuck you too Cora
>>562139590>95% of rogues run SinestraShe is not even THAT good. I mean she is not bad. I guess rogue doesn't have much else. Other than Imbue which just seems to be the weakest out of all the Imbue classes.
>game is yet again crashing on start upumm hearthbabs? Cora you fat cunt dyke?
>>562141801>weakest out of all the Imbue classes.How could you even possibly come to this conclusion? Mage may be playable in wild, but it's garbage in standard. Paladin is ok but too slow for the most part. Shaman is utter garbage. DK imbue is the biggest fucking joke ever designed, not even with the support cards of this expac could you make it work.Rogue imbue is like the 2:nd best after druid, and druid is getting nerfed. Granted it is considerably worse now without shadowstep, but still decent.
>>562142027Oh and hunter imbue is also just unplayable, half-assed archetype. Priest is probably on par with rogue actually.
>>562141801>I guess rogue doesn't have much elseYeah, I also believe that's why she's so prevalent. Rogue has very few options right now.I think the number of games played illustrates this very well. In the last 24 hours, Herald Rogue played 43653 games across Standard. The second-highest Rogue archetype is Imbue and that hasn't even cracked 2000 games. It's pretty dire.
>>562142163Priest getting to pick from two instead of rerolling with rewind is definitely better even if it's between two priest cards.
>>562142027My bad, i meant the imbue classes that actually play their imbue package. I guess it's just me but i've been shafted a lot by imbue mages whenever i switch to a more tempo deck and paladin always seem to shit out decent dragons pretty early. Rogue with their unstable portaling didn't really screw me over that much. But their core package might just be shit. The DK, hunter one is indeed garbo. I feel like the shaman one has potential if aggro slows down and board trades matter more. But their herald deck is just so good that there is no reason to play any other shaman deck.
>>562144678Paladin is a meme that needs at least 4 imbue effects and targetted draw to do anything. You can usually beat them by just playing minions on curve and hitting face.
>>562099094>No bobsTrannycoded portrait
>>562144678what rank are you playing at nigga where your complaint is imbue mage? do you play wild?
imbue is going to be unplayable after tomorrow if this is their state right now
>>562139590that you for putting this together. some of those numbers are actually pretty surprising. honestly didnt expect Vulcanos to be in that many decks
>>562142027what if they made all the imbues 1 mana?>>562144676no its bad because priest cards are bad. even when discounted
Play your lifesteal spells i dare you (i discovered another noz next turn lmao)fucking 30min sloppa
Cant wait to see IMBUE nerf LMAO (imbue 1/1 btw)
Uhhhhhh okay?
>>562114139>spell DH will be the winner of this shitThe evil and intimading King Llane:
Game one big april joke>down to 5 hp>heal for 40>down to 10hp>heal for 40(quest)>lose because timeshart
>>562161383>overwatch gets anything it wants>diablo 4 got berserk>hearthstone gets a chinese mobile battle royale crossover
>>562162817wow has FANTA X HALO collab lmao
IJUSTCANTKILLTHISSHIT
>>562162817I am about to uninstall this trash game
>>562161383For the glory of china!
>>562162232intimidating*how the fuck did I spell that so wrong
>somehow take board>this happensBoard BASED GAMEPLAYand reddit whines about imbue shitnigga was 1atk btw
dam that's pretty nicei wish Chromatus was playable he looks cool
Bring on the trooid genocide, just had a fun game vs control priest as egg warlock and they cease to exist'd my egg even (I played around it by holding egg and using egg conflagrate to be able to umbra it back later)Can't wait for aggro to be dead niggercancer
>>562170101>played aroundyou not... they have fabled and 2 word ruin
>>562170242>no u didn't play around cease to exist by playing around cease to exist?
lol
>>562171239created by.... rigged match
https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24271852/4-1-26-patch-notes>no one posted patchnotes
>>562172078>Based on player feedback, Herald is now Harold.based ?
We did it guys!We nerfed the bear! Imbue druid is no more!
i just want Rafaam to be good anons...
11 stars and I don't even want to play anymore because I know they're nerfing shaman.... They didn't even buff anything interesting.
>>562178839>One of the few new archetypes that actually landed>Fun to play>Little to no bullshit RNG>Healthy playpatterns, relies almost entirely on the board>"REEEEEEEE NUKE IT FROM ORBIT PEOPLE ARE NOT PLAYING LEECHES I WANT PEOPLE TO PLAY LEECHES FOR ANOTHER YEAR!"I genuinely despise Cora. They did the exact same thing last year with Menagerie decks.
>>562179728Same when they said they designed quests to be bad on purposeThen whats the point?I know everyone has ptsd from United in Stormwind but they can always just nerf things, like they did with the murloc quest
>win too much>get rogue opponent>discovers discover that gets played twice for zero mana>every single turn gets the perfect card>cant just concede or my rng wont be reset for next gamecan you just afk or does that also not get counted for a loss?game is so rigged its insane lol
>>562172078They actually put Sorry back that’s not just a jokeEnjoy committing horrible online hate crimes and cyber bullying while they let you
pov: bronze 5
>>562178839I don't think the shaman nerfs will be too harsh. It'll probably still be a good deck.
>>562158663Then obviously the shit ones would be playable, even hunter i think. Part of what makes paladin almost semi playable is it's 1 mana. But priest would be turbo broken at 1.
>randomly generated card from a randomly generated card generates perfect answer to my randomly generated cardhearthstone has gone too far
>>562184976>priest would be turbo broken at 1Yeah, that'd be crazy. Turn 2 imbue minion into turn 3 HP+Spirit of the Kaldorei would be fucked up.
>>562184394The deck was already barely playable at the higher parts of legend and if they just nerfed druid (nerf it not kill it like they're doing) It's natural counters like hunter,dh, mage would have popped up. The funny part is that most people who complain about this deck are priest/dk do nothing deck players and these changes will not change that match up whatsoever. The only thing it might do is push the deck out completely as It's now going to have to deal with a worse match up spread on top of nerfs. But why would they want that, It's a board based deck using the new titular mechanic, if that's not a deck you want around, what the fuck do you even want the meta to look like?
>>562159605>2 Hatchery Helpers 1 chameleonThose cards shouldn't be in standard.
>>562186720>counters like dh, hunter,mageThese were all free wins for me on ladder when I played shamanOnly imbue druids could beat me
