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Dick Kickem Edition

Last Thread: >>561153918

>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII | https://rentry.org/shillfilter

▶Cloud Services
https://featherless.ai
https://novelai.net
https://openrouter.ai

▶Frontends
https://koboldai.org/cpp
https://sillytavern.app
https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qt
https://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad

▶Additional Information
>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: >>>/vg/aicg
>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg

▶Game(s)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/
Scripts: https://naiscriptvault.com/
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-misceIIany
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!
>Post prompts for March's themes: Mental Illness, Steampunk, Knights, and Royalty! >>561768094

▶Model News
>(02/23) NAI updated its Canvas
>(02/12) Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
>(02/05) Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6
>(12/19) NovelAI introduces User Scripts: https://blog.novelai.net/introducing-novelai-user-scripts-8b6ac19aa170
>(10/01) Z.AI releases GLM-4.6: https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6 ; NovelAI updates untuned preview to GLM-4.6: https://novelai.net/updates

▶Thread News
>(03/07) Anon updates his frontend: >>559652987 https://files.catbox.moe/930fvy.html
>(02/05) Emacs Update: https://files.catbox.moe/6r6wxg.el
>(01/16) Anon makes a Mikupad Screenshot Script
https://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/mikupad-screenshot
>(11/17) Anon makes a Mikupad Guide
https://rentry.org/MikupadIntroGuide
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Do we know WHEN the new NAI model is coming out or is it just "soon"?
Any details? Predictions? Hopes? Dreams? Larger context size? New features? Some sort of official rpg engine or imagegen integration? New text to speech?
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>>561910441
When they upload teasers, it's very close
At least, that was the way it's always been
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>>561910441
It's just "soon" but when they say "soon" it usually means it's not long because they hate giving any sort of indication of how long shit takes.
I'm just hoping for writing that's a bit less sanitized by default.
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Claiming this thread with the fag flag of yaoi.
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>>561912306
fat schizo furry many cases
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>>561912636
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>>561912306
cute little bastard
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Hiro you queer let me post
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>>561917348
Not gay enough to post on 4chan, clearly.
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>>561917402
I'm honestly surprised it went through. I've been "rangebanned" for several weeks now, and after the hack I don't even trust this site enough to give them a burner email.
Anyways, back to making gardevoir smut
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>>561917713
>gardevoir smut
based
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>>561916970
With the right artist tag they're just the most adorable lil' sons of bitches.
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What's new in the hood my niggas?
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>>561923280
Nothing too bad, at least
How are you?
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>>561917713
If anything after the hack I trust them more because there wasn't any evidence of emails being stored or attached to posts.
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Anyone have any experience with Freaky Frankenstein and Qwen 3.5 35b? It seems to want to run through approximately 3,000 tokens of non-hidden reasoning before it gets to the actual output. Which actually DOES look good and better than what Qwen did by itself but hardly seems worth it if I have to scroll through multiple screens of AI schizobabble to reach 3 paragraphs of actual text. No idea if Qwen's just not compatible with it or if there's some obvious setting I'm missing somewhere
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>>561925802
Anon from the future here, prompt post processing strict no tools seems to do it
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>>561925802
That's a lotta reasoning
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Don't forget to get your Theme Prompts in!

>>561769902
>As Knight Falls
So, what's a cogwalker?
A serial comma should go in 'shed and'. Also 'tool shed' can be one word if you want.
I'm not sure why the Prince seems surprised to see Jacob, given that Clive just asked if he wanted to see him.
Would he be saying Master as compared to a different address for the Prince as royalty?
A bit of a surprise to see a prompt from you that doesn't seem to have a Memory but does have an Author's Note.
In the Scalhaven Lorebook, in 'its factories', that should be 'their', since it's talking about the cities' factories rather than the country's.
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>>561929495
It is, but since it runs at 40t/s and can handle 30k context fine it's still workable. Still can't decide if it's worth it over other local models. Seems extra touchy on settings and wants to run at 0.5 heat or lower. Might be worse on single character focused cards but actually looks better on "Here's the scenario and the mood, you DM" cards probably due to all the fucking reasoning. And some of that bad experience on single character card testing may be due to adjusting settings as I went which may have poisoned the context with gibberish
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I came to the thread like a predator found its prey. Why does it smell like ozone here?
"Page 9? Pathetic," said I, my voice low, above a whisper. "Let me sage bump and watch this shill thread die. Again."
So I bumped, slow and delibrate. The thread stayed at page 9 and I felt a shiver ran up my spine.
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>>561937081
calificied my brain and made me realize this industry bubble just is spiteful incels
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>>561937081
your script needs some work, retard
the last post was literally ten minutes before yours
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Hope status?
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>>561939701
Get fucked by turk-tuned. Kys, chinkshill.
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>>561940713
ily too
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>>561940436
Is this how Cadbury's creme eggs are made?
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There's a playful glint as she addresses the power dynamic— playfully smirking as she offers her ministrations.
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>>561940976
Chocolate manufacturers and the Easter bunny don't want you to know their dirty secret.
https://files.catbox.moe/px6nfd.png
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>>561942017
OH MY GODDDDDD CADBURY'S CREME EGGS ARE FROGS
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>>561942642
Gay frogs produce more eggs than gay rabbits.
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Another (late) product of a million rewrites
>>561768094
Three out of four themes ain't bad, I guess.
I might have bitten off more than I could chew.
https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7881
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https://files.catbox.moe/tf8zze.png
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>>561943023
He's a bit too smug for someone with an assload of cum
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>>561944451
It feeds into his ego about his desirability.

https://files.catbox.moe/g35945.png
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Cooming on Janitor AI is like pissing on yourself, it's fun for a moment, but it stop being funny fast.
What I want is a story!
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>>561949179
one way to pay the rent
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>>561949461
He may start thinking of ways to get you indebted to him just so you can keep paying him off in this way.
https://files.catbox.moe/hmbdl2.png
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>forgot to update my expired linked card on paypal in time
>debit card randomly decided to cooperate with NAI without paypal despite never working before
huh
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>>561956607
Very nice
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>>561956607
Happened to me too. I prefer it this way, fuck Paypal.
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>>561942642
Deepest lore
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>>561930013
Thanks.
>So, what's a cogwalker?
The intent is basically a bipedal mech sort of thing, but I left it deliberately vague.
>I'm not sure why the Prince seems surprised to see Jacob, given that Clive just asked if he wanted to see him.
It's not supposed to be real surprise as much as excitement mixed with a bit of self-deprecation where he maybe didn't truly believe it until he actually saw him for real.
>Would he be saying Master as compared to a different address for the Prince as royalty?
I have no idea how the actual dynamics shake out, but the way I saw it, using a royalty address would be more distant, with their relation being that of a royal and their subject in the same way every citizen would be a subject. "Master" in my intent expresses something more direct, where the relation is that of direct, explicit subservience.
>A bit of a surprise to see a prompt from you that doesn't seem to have a Memory but does have an Author's Note.
Well it's a good thing you noticed that because that was not intentional. I forgot to copy and paste the memory from my .txt file to NAI, so I fixed that now. The A/N is something I felt necessary for this one because while I did have some signifiers of a steampunk story, I wanted to actually explicitly tell the AI "yes this is steampunk" just so it gets it.
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>GLM-5.1 seems to be a big leap over 5.
How do we cope about this, NAIbros?
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>>561964790
Nobody cares what you think, Whiney.
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>>561964790
It doesn't matter how 'good' you claim a model is if you never use it. You won't use 5.1 to gen stories and share them with the thread. Much like you have never once used Claude to gen stories and share with the thread.
There's no point in talking about models if you're never going to use them.
Why don't you quit console warring and instead share story posts?
Could it be that you're too afraid your slop is so low quality that not even a 'good' model will fix it?
Worried everyone's going to laught at you?
Or could it be that you can't buy any of the models because of the sanctions your shithole is under?
Perhaps too afraid of being called on your bluff?
Perhaps too poor to use models?
Any or all of these could be the answer.
Until you learn to contribute to the thread instead of whining and shitposting, you will never find happiness.
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>>561964790
>GLM 5.1's leap hit like a physical blow, a low, rumbling thrum that vibrated through the floorboards. Her knuckles were white, an impossibly final, deliberate, methodical question and answer as the dust motes dancing in the afternoon light settled.
VGH... how can we even compete...
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>>561964790
GLM 5 is already great, FIRMIRIN! aside. I'm mostly looking forward to the first really good Gemini Flash equivalent. GLM 4.7 Flash was just not quite smart enough to satisfy me, but a little more and they'd be golden
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>>561964790
Imagine how expensive it will be. Might stick to 5 if they make it cheaper.
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When are we getting Paypal back?
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>>561970947
When NAI adds a filter so we can protect innocent AI generated text women from being respected
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>>561971342
How come no one wants to protect AI generated men?
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>>561956607
Still nothing on mine. Gay.
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Post your best nipples that youve gen-ded'd
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>>561976523
shit sucks, man. I've seen some people mention that they were able to get past this by calling/going to their bank to ask for the payment to go through. Others recommended using a virtual card if your bank allows it, that can apparently help in some cases.
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>>561964790
>AI n+1 is a huge leap over AI n, look at the benchmarks
>nothing really changes except they trained it to pass the benchmarks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYFTqRDJPoM

I'm the one who stays when it's easier to run
I'll carry the dark, so you can see the sun
But every night I'm asking myself
When does it come back to me?

Say it mattered, say I played my part
I'm just looking for a little smeeedrins

JUST GIVE ME MY BEEEEAAAAKS
I'VE BEEN WAITING
WAITING MY WHOOOLE LIFE
JUST GIVE ME THE BEAKS
I'M CRAVING
I NEED THEM
I NEED THEM TO WRITE COOM

I'm the one who fades when you don't feel enough
I carry the weight of what you never touch
So every night I'm asking myself
When does it come back to me?

JUST GIVE ME MY BEEEEAAAAKS
I'VE BEEN WAITING
WAITING MY WHOOOLE LIFE
JUST GIVE ME THE BEAKS
I'M CRAVING
I NEED THEM
I NEED THEM TO WRITE COOM

Just give me my beaks
I've been waiting
Waiting my whole life
JUST GIVE ME THE BEAKS
I'M CRAVING
I NEED THEM
I NEED THEM TO WRITE COOM

Just give me the beaks
I need them to coom
I need them to coom
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>>561982982
Not sure if these are the best, but here's some of mine.
https://files.catbox.moe/id08i2.png
https://files.catbox.moe/vxsqbb.png
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>>561964452
You're welcome.
Fair, since they don't come up and are unlikely to appear. That was about what I expected, but I wasn't sure what level of mech you were suggesting, whether full-on steam mech or essentially larger augmented legs to give them height and speed like an officer riding a horse.
I suppose it would, but even being a personal assistant, it's a knight referring to their prince. I'd rather expect that to be a bit distant starting out.
Well, good thing we caught that, then. I'd been assuming any extra assertion of being steampunk would have been in the Memory, so it'd come as a surprise.
In your Memory, I'd put a comma in 'course Prince'.

>>561942991
>City of Metal, Prince of Stone
Considering what most of these have been, I was surprised to see this was a female protagonist.
Orfanion feels a bit on the nose as a place she'd be from. Had they really called their little slice of land that?
I feel like there should be a bit more specified about the Prince's curse here. Maybe given a name, some more details, even if it is a charade. (Though he'd either have to be a really good actor to pull that off for years, or a lot of the staff is in on it.)
In your Memory, you can remove the last semicolon after 'erotica'.
I think you want 'decided' rather than 'decried'. The latter means to denounce or condemn, which wasn't the case.
I'm not sure I'd describe Alyona (I hope that's not a take on 'alone', by the way) as the narrator so much as the protagonist.
You have two entries of information about King Alexandros in a row. You should reconcile them and gather what's right into a single entry.
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>>561990303
Thanks, as always. Looks like I made some rookie mistakes this time lol.
>I hope that's not a take on 'alone', by the way
No, I just used Behind the Name until I got a set of names I liked. I think it's supposed to be a variant of Helena.
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>Claude's analysis of the NAI GLM finetune compared to their previous models
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>>561996882
>the amount of slop in that response
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>>561998338
Claude had no slop, unlike your shitty porntune faggot.
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>>561995779
You're welcome, as always.
I assumed it wasn't, but with the idea of Orfanion fresh in mind, it suddenly occurred to me how similar her name sounded to 'alone' and hoped it wasn't just another way of referencing that they were in an orphanage.
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I just fapped for an hour to writing a chapter that was pure talking ...
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>>562003395
This, but bullying
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>>561988746
https://files.catbox.moe/zu28vx.mp3
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>>562003395
Just one hour? Adorable.
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>>561917713
Speaking of pokemon, do you capitalize pokemon species names?
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I firebombed the servers and delayed the porntune
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Roses are red
>
[hVsdf3] Fetch is aborted.
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>>561996882
You can tell it's propaganda because Claude knew each model's name and size, biasing its response. There's a reason why they weren't presented as A, B, C, and D to him: NovelAI didn't like the honest, unbiased response. They're trying to appeal to authority using Claude, but we all know about the sycophancy problem.
The fact that they do this at all already tells you that the fine-tune has been a failure.
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>appeal to authority
Lol, lmao. This man really does just string together words like he's in a debate club.
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>>562013027
Where's that offline-nc update?
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>>562013027
>we all know about the sycophancy problem
What happened to your belief that Claude was the perfect model and that it had no flaws? Was all of that shilling you did for it just pretend? You have no principles.
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This is the part where he accuses the thread of being a botnet.
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>>562013027
That's actually a valid point, the fact they are also listed in the order of their beaks size biases the response further.
I don't agree with the finetune whining though, NAI is probably just really fucking lazy. Image cash keeps them afloat so there is literally no reason for them to push resources to textgen when the field releases better models every month.
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>>562018397
I'm always surprised when he randomly decides not to be retarded, yet still remains pretty retarded.
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>>562018397
the Claude "review" was just a shitpost from Sage because "people will trust AI more than human opinions these days", but yes, a slop engine rating slop isn't a reliable metric in any capacity
and they most likely do not have the resources to host much bigger models right now, at least for GLM 5 they specifically said it was too big/too expensive
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>>562018397
There is no validity in your argument, and samefagging yourself will not increase the nothingness of it. You are retarded if you think this bullshit:
>Image cash keeps them afloat so there is literally no reason for them to push resources to textgen when the field releases better models every month. is true.
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>>562019018
Okay, why haven't they released any finetune since Erato? What is the actual reason if it's not finetune getting botched or them being lazy?
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>>562019186
A fine-tune for GLM is coming; they literally showed the model image teaser a few days ago, and no amount of preemptively shitting up the thread declaring it a flop will magically make it a flop. Tell me, why are you so obsessed with console warring against NovelAI that you fabricate absurdities to justify your dislike of them?
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>>562019186
They started tuning GLM 4.6 back half a year ago. I don't know what about that somehow means they gave up on textgen. That you assume a lack of resources, as they are a smaller company without investor money, equals laziness is nothing but bias on your part.
You see, in the real world, companies without investor money have to acquire funding through legitimate means…
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>>562019621
AI-generated loli porn isn't a legitimate mean.
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>>562019910
In what world is imagegen not a legitimate way to raise revenue?
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>>562020083
In the world where he preemptively decided NAI is shit and fabricated absurdities to argue they're a shit company.
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>>562020083
It's against the payment processor's ToS and it's illegal in several parts of the world.
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>>562020350
Go ahead and report them to the authorities and watch as nothing happens to them, then. By this logic, every single company that allows NSFW imageen is illegitimate.
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>>562020459
How many companies allow AI-generated loli porn? Which company got blacklisted by Paddle and PayPal?
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>>562020837
This is you are actually appealing to authority to justify why you dislike NovelAI, unlike the post you samefagged earlier. Enjoy your evening, whinefag!
You've played your hand too quickly.
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I need more gens of delicious buttholes.
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Been lurking for a bit, I'm confused, are "whinefag" and "the Russian" the same person?
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>>562021171
Spiritually, yes. Though the OG whinefag went on rants that got him periodically banned.
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>>562021235
The rants on the prompt website was my favorite arc.
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>>562021171
The real whinefag died. Rip bozo, never forget
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>>562021046
Here is one where I just got finished sodomizing a whiney butt cunny.
https://files.catbox.moe/v8agdz.png
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>>562021981
Butterchalk?
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>>562022502
Definitely
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>>562021171
Real WF left a loooong time ago (he finally went to the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid)
Russian took the persona, but it's obviously not the same guy since he forgets a lot of what made WF WF.
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>>562021046
https://files.catbox.moe/vle18a.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ls6y7h.png
https://files.catbox.moe/aagx25.png
https://files.catbox.moe/blgv4e.png
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>>562023401
I love straight sex with a twist.
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>>562023401
Bridget…
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>>562022627
You're forgetting the part where OccultSage made a bot farm based on his personality.
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>>562023667
You're admitting to being a bot?
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>>562023728
No, I was talking about you.
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>>562023789
Whinefag (You) and angryanon are different people, whiney.
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>>562023502
>>562023508
I don't remember when I made all these, but I'm pretty sure it was because someone asked for buttholes here some time back.
https://files.catbox.moe/86ymgc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/1qnemu.png
https://files.catbox.moe/acls88.png
https://files.catbox.moe/se7t73.png
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>>562023972
Bridget is built for anal.
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>>562019910
the stock market is always the least legitimate option
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>>562019621
People with home setups have been releasing their finetune/quant/merge/etc left and right since forever.
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Finally some good links thst are labeled
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>>562027668
>merge
>quant
Lol. Lmao. You clearly lack insight on what a bona fide fine-tune takes.
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>>562028998
Bona fide like the shitshow named Erato?
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>>562029563
Why do you insist on badgering for replies when nobody cares what you think, weirdo. You're a weirdo!
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So when the fine-tune arrives and it turns out to be decent, what will be bro's cope? Something something context, something something 'trackers', something something too expensive? Or will he accuse every positive remark as being part of a botnet?
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>find GLM's dialogue in a scene unsatisfying
>switch to Erato to see what she comes up with
>"Fuck yeah fucking shit bitch cunt hell yeah fucking fucker bitch fuck"
thanks
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>>562030472
Has anyone made a Freddy Krueger custom bot yet? I think it would be fun to read him cuss constantly.
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>>562030182
he'll do the thing again of saying it's not working for him in his story because it's overhyped garbage and then either never post what he's doing when anyone asks him to or post the most dogshit setup known to man
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i'm struggling to figure out what this thread is about because i'm retarded(?)
do you use chatbots? do you use sillytavern? do you use sillytavern chatbots?? should i post some bots here? do you like cyoa stuff?
why are there two pseudo-aicg threads
what do you guys do
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>>562031535
Storytelling, primarily, but also text adventure (some people do rpgs, cyoas are fine, too), imagegen, musicgen, videogen, really all in all this is a generalist thread all things considered. Anything is fine to post.
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>>562021046
she asked me to buy beer for her and her friends
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>>562031535
We all work for this thing called Novelai and we basically just shill it all day and run damage control when anyone voices a criticism about it
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>>562031535
the first guy is right, but if you want a clear demarcation, it's an uninterrupted block of text the AI continues from rather than a back and forth like a chatbot
bots would be kinda useless to me, personally
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>>562023401
>>562023972
Finally some gens I like...
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It's out!
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>>562035329
NEVER lie to me again pathetic little BITCH
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>>562031535
We were here first, since 2019
go ask the uma theead why they get two generals instead
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>There is different teams. AI team has been finished with the text model for a while
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>>562032383
Unironically true. People pretend to be okay with 'anyone posting stories', but any time anyone brings up a price comparison or model power comparison showing that $300/yr is a terrible deal for what NAI offers, the resident shills all circle the wagons. The news list, too, is just a list of NAI-adjacent things. Imagegen is only 'allowed' because NAI offers it, etc. There also aren't enough natural users to keep the thread alive overnight US time, hence the random meaningless bumps after an hour and a half during aussie hours. If you point this out you'll be called a paid shill (paid by who?) when it's a hundred times more likely that someone who is actually running a subscription service has a monetary interest in keeping 'the NAI thread' alive.
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He says, bumping the thread with a samefagged response.
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>>562043424
makes sense
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>>562044845
You bump the thread more than anyone here, schizo.
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Man, I tried switching back to erato, and the prose is so damn better. I swear if they can figure out how to get the variance of their tuned stuff with the better reasoning of GLM, they're gonna have gold
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If you hate the 'NAI thread' so much, why don't you fucking leave instead of shitting it up constantly?
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>>562044970
That would require him to get a life, which he doesn't have.
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In Germany, there's this term that translates into English called "hobbyless behavior". It refers to people who lack any personal passion. Such people latch onto weird activities to glean some semblance of enjoyment out of the miserable lives they lead. When all they need to do to enjoy life is get some hobbies.
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newspeak term fight the good fight anonymous
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>>562045737
What
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>>562021171
There is also a third anon: A schizo who accuses random others to be "that anon". He attacks you if you make paragraph breaks or if you end your post with a question. Because that's what "that anon" does supposedly.
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I need breeding/harem focused worlds to do stories in that aren't the same ones I've done a million times already
>going into monstergirl territory alone
>only man in a quaint harvest moon type farming village
>captured by drow and respecting my way to freedom
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https://files.catbox.moe/t6v4jt.png
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>>562045462
That must be recent Jugendsprache, because I had never heard it before.
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>>562057606
Thank you for having good taste anon.
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>>562062654
I'd practice my infinite 1-up trick on them if you know what I mean.

https://files.catbox.moe/qbiqkz.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/a7afl1.png
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>She looks furious and desperate and something else you can't name.
She's masturbating and is about to cum, you dumbfuck AI. What can't you name exactly? I can name it easily: she is fucking horny.
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Post stories to read.
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>>562057231
stuck on a space station?
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>request timed out after 60 seconds without a response
reeeeee
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NOOOOO MY FAT ANTHRO POKEMON ROLEPLAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
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>>562070543
It's really gotten unstable with that over the last few days. Not sure a big release is gonna help with that.
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>>562074153
I guess I'm glad it's not just me this time
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TURK
STOP KEEPING ME FROM MY FOX WIFE
I MUST MOFU MOFU
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Surely this means the update is coming
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>>562074219
Yeah no for me it's like 50% of attempts that just time out. Used to be that there was a rare situation where the generation would just poof into the aether and I'd be stuck, having to reload the page, but this is just incessant right now.
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>1 year with vanilla GLM
>that amounts to $300
>that would be ten trillions of tokens at API cost
So where are the award-winning novels written with NAI?
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>>562077971
NAI is a bad deal, but let's not exaggerate with trillions of tokens
If someone really gens like 6+ hours every single day then maybe they can get their money's worth
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>>562078526
NAI has the right to ban people that are unprofitable.
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>>562078526
I gen like 3-4 hours everyday and deepseek never cost me more than $2 a month.
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>>562078526
>>562077971
Yeah but if you link your 4chan account to Novelai and then post positive things about it you get a 50% discount tho
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>>562078526
I'm doing my part!
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>>562078674
how does that work?
I only tried it once a while ago with Deepseek V3 on openrouter, but retrying and editing a single output several times cost me around $0.20
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>>562078526
Can't speak for anyone else but did I the math and with the kind of context lengths I'm working with and the average gens per day I do NAI's 20bux actually is cheaper for me than OpenRouter. If there's some cheaper way I'm missing let me know.
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>gen 10 hours per day to make my sub "worth it"
>trigger manual review
>someone has to read my stories to tell I'm not a spam bot
Was it worth the lack of privacy?
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>>562080240
V3.2 cut like half of the previous price. Cache hit price is also 1/10 of cache miss price. That, and V3.2's output price is super cheap. This is one the official API. No other providers offer this price.
I also keep the context relatively unchanged, this means most of the time my input will be cache hit = cheap.
In general, you should keep your early context unchanged. Check your front end's setting since, for example, afaik something like ST (or one of its community script) changes early context almost every message so that'll be a lot of cache hit.
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>>562081098
>This is one the official API.
This is the official API.
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>>562081098
damn
I'll think about it but I really hate sillytavern
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>>562081839
I didn't mean you must use ST. It's good for chatshit but for story writing, anons had made other front ends. Check OP.
Unironically you should vibe code your own. That way, there'll be no hidden magic you doesn't about, and it'll work exactly like you want it to be.
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>>562082438
>vibe code your own
man, that'll take me hours of floundering at shit I don't understand for an ugly result that'll probably break if I don't use it in an exact specific way
I don't remember if Mikupad supports APIs, I think that's still on my computer somewhere
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>Claude source code leaked
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I'm a khhv incel and I was wondering: Do girls' lips really get bruised and swollen from kissing and from giving blowjobs?
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Give me sex with boymoder prompts
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>>562083375
Bruising and swelling implies the act was particularly rough. Common trope in lit erotica and not that realistic, unless your partner's got particularly thin and sensitive skin.
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>>562083375
Maybe they do in China? They don't really treat their women well there from what I've come to understand.
I sure as heck have never heard of someone "pulling away with their lips red and swollen" after a kiss or oral until GLM.
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>>562080841
Fabricating absurdities only makes you look like a fool.
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>>562083375
>Do girls' lips really get bruised and swollen from kissing
raise your right arm and suck on a naked portion of your own bicep really hard for like 15 seconds
it's gonna be all red and puffy after
kissing isn't just lips touching eachother, most people are sucking on eachother's face like they're trying to pull golfballs through a garden hose
>and from giving blowjobs?
giving a blowie to someone with a big dick is pretty biologically-traumatizing
first your sinuses start going crazy - that's what makes your eyes water and your nose all gloopy. then you're choking on both dick and your over-productive gloop-glands going insane, then your brain has to figure out how to not bite a cock during all of that happening, and if the cock is big enough you're going to be getting strangled by an obstruction in your throat the entire time (unable to breathe)
lot more than just puffy lips from that one with all the blood and adrenaline going on
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>>562096598
We should make blowjobs illegal
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>>562082438
You should use offline-nc, shill. I already did the work to make the best contribution this shithole will ever see
Fuck you and your botnet!
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>>562081098
NAI doesn't cache because it hates you, expensive shit service unsub
Only reason
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>>562080459
NAI is never cheaper than OpenRouter Baker. You get a discount for shilling.
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>>562076097
There is no update
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>>562076097
it's just the servers shitting themselves, probably CoreWeave being garbage as usual. There wasn't really a noticeable performance hit before vanilla GLM dropped last year, i was just generating some slop with Erato when i got a popup/notification telling me to refresh the page and it was just there. Obviously things slowed down due to high load soon after
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>>562098213
They aren't even hosting GLM, it's a knock off model because they're poor as shit
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>>562097515
No, I did the math, and with the amount of gens I do at the context lengths I do them it'd cost $300 per month for GLM 4.6 and $250 for Deepseek V3, maybe a little less because not all my stories are over the 28k context limit, but almost certainly not enough to make it less than $25/month. Blyaat harder.
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>>562099479
Liar.
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>>562099479
Hello, dog person.
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>>561910198
Thanks to everyone who participated in Theme Friday! This time, we received two (2) prompts! I’ll be taking suggestions for April’s theme till Friday evening, whereupon I shall post the poll, which shall last till Sunday evening. Looking at the calendar, the event itself shall kick off on the 24th and last till the 26th-ish!
>A Cog In The Machine: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7880
>Desolatum: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7881
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>>562099824
You wanna run the numbers yourself?
>866 generations per day on average
>28,672 token input
>~28 token output
>current OpenRouter prices for GLM 4.6 and Deepseek V3
Go. I'll probably switch if my math is way off and the difference is more than imagegen is worth to me.
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>>562101662
the Orient
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>>562099670
Hey man, you gotta keep it up if you want me to click on it, m'kay?
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>>562083178
>it's real
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>NAI keeps killing itself
What the fuck is happening over there?
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>>562111409
They are about to release the finetune today
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>>562111641
There is no finetune. And if there is, it will flop worse than Sloprato.
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take on me ft. imagegen example girl
https://files.catbox.moe/vjq866.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pdsf37.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nxxb4s.png
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>>562111641
>release the finetune
What features is it meant to add?
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>>562112013
Better storytelling focus and less slop.
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>>562111409
they're deploying fixes for the recent instabilities is all we've been told, i think it only affects GLM
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Unless they are bullshitting us again (likely), it is Xialong.
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>>562114509
haha xialong dong
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>>562114509
I would not believe anything coming from the Discord right now considering what an insane asylum it has turned into.
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>>562114790
Trust the plan and hope the cloud company does not go capoot.
>It is now in the hands of a certain cloud shaped company
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>>562114509
Sum Ting Wong
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>>562115064
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>just a human twink with shitty horns
soulless and weak
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>>562115064
>>562115101
I'd fuck it.
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It is actually called Xialong.
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It's out

https://blog.novelai.net/welcome-novelais-newest-writing-model-xialong-ecde7d21d111
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>>562101662
How about "Gaming"? That's a pretty broad theme from anything having to do with a video game world to strip games at the arcade.
https://files.catbox.moe/lw61mh.png
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>first finetune gen
>"a strange, acrid tang that hung in the air."
i'm going to fucking hang myself
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The fine-tune has arrived, brothers.
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>>562030980
Looks like you called it.
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XIALONG DONG
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how much social credit did they earn with the CCP
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https://files.catbox.moe/xappar.png
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They're hella rawdogging it with the system prompt and prefill default, it seems, to the point of there being no prefill and it being actively discouraged.
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>>562116029
I do not care, I am using my system prompt and nobody can stop me.
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>>562115471
i kinda like his retarded face, the fangs are cute
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>>562116462
It gives big "bleeeeeh" vibes.
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>>562115439
No, fuck no, this was our only hope of running away from the slop...
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>>562115439
at least it's not ozone
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>>562117310
Go ahead and post your gens.
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>>562117372
Nah dude I'm waiting to see if it's worth it first
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>>562117472
Then fuck off and quit whining about shit you haven't used.
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>ask the new chingchong model to review my script
>this is the first thing it spews out
it's peam already
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Don't make me tap the sign.
>>562115439
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https://files.catbox.moe/elwm98.png
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The model is sloppy. It's worse than Erato. A failure of the grandest degree. Quit subbing to NAI, shill. It's shit. You're shit. The model is a shit.
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>>562117753 (me)
i also want to point out that there was nobody called Draco anywhere in or near my story
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>>562117693
Directly from the 'cord.
I'm done with Ai writing honestly.
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>>562117992
Nobody will miss you when you leave.
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>>562117753
>>562117992
It's over. Fine tune failed.
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The fine tune is a failure! It's sloppy! Sloppy! Slop!
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>>562116029
This is slop.
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>Retries actually generate more varied outputs even at default values
>Reduced obsession with smells and dust motes dancing in the air
>really fucking fast at the moment (probably partly due to being Opus only)
>commaslop, low rumble and Elara/Seraphine still have a chance to appear but much more rare and a retry will actually give you something different

Definite improvement so far at the very least, will be interesting to explore it fully in the coming days
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>>562115560
They should have named it Shitlong. Because it's shit.
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>>562118494
It's broken and sloppy, nothing works, quit shilling your failure of a model dog person.
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>>562115439
Put an ATTG instead of an instruction.
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The melty starts.
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>>562118656
Doesn't work, the output is sloppier.
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>>562118656
I didn't even use instructions with vanilla GLM. shit like this will still show up, but in all fairness I haven't had any more occurrences of it since i posted that.
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I want to fucking kill myself. If you go to discord everybody sucks their cocks, if you go here it's either the autistic faggot or the anti-autistic faggot.
I just want to read an unbiased opinion for once, Christ. Let me see if one of the /aicg/s are checking it too
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>>562118841
The only unbiased opinion you'll get is trying it yourself.
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>>562117869
Hotter than Krake
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lel xialong literally means summer dragon in chinese
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>>562119113
lmao really?
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>>562119169
Xia = Summer, Long = Dragon. Depending on the diacritics.
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>>562119113
Kino.
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>>562118841
It's GLM but better. I used 4.6 so much in the past months that i'm overly sensitive to signs of its sloppiness showing up but it is noticeably more usable. Still, if you hated the vanilla model you will notice some of the annoying things still surfacing from time to time.
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>>562119260
It's the sloppiest model by far. Worse than Erato. Therefore it's a failure.
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In other news, something funky is going on in the backend for Kayra, it's turning letters after every apostrophe into numbers.

>>562119229
夏 - summer 龍 - dragon
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>>562119113
Could also mean "Bottom Dragon" lmao if you really want to be contrived.
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>AFAIK we discourage changing the system prompt, as that would make it behave in not-xialong ways
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>>562119467
Double kino.
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>>562119467
夏 strictly means summer. It's endearing to see them still referencing this. But shame that I've gone full local now.
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It's surprisingly ok, didn't expect that. Doesn't land in the same basins as common chinese llms, at least for smut.
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>>562118841
So far I've noted:
>It seems to really like mentioning content from lorebooks in explicit detail. When a character is mentioned, it seems pretty intent on dumping every bit of info. Maybe just this prompt though, or the use of curly braces to push the AI?
>Less sloppy for sure, or at least less of the base GLM isms. Still loves the shit out of commas, but seems less intent on giving EVERYTHING FUCKING TWO ADVERBS now.
>Still likes abusing "gutteral".
All I can say so far since I only just started messing about.
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>>562119717 (me)
I get paid hundreds of dollars to suck cock
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I'm so fucking mad
Can anyone try a side-by-side with GLM-5?
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>>562119757
Starting it out from a prompt I've been working on, it adheres more to how I've been writing. Which is nice.
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>>562119885
I've not experienced this. What settings are you working with?
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It still repeats
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>>562119940
it's been less than an hour, this bit barely means anything
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>>562120096
Show screenshot?
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>>562119885
>the prediction machine is spitting out predictive sentences!
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>>562120123
You're not going to get any help acting like that, dude.
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Xialong Cunny :crying emoji:
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>>562120252
Apparently this may be happening because using Instruct with it just switches it back to vanilla glm o algo
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>>562119053
I feel like they can both coexist as NAI's biggest cuties.
https://files.catbox.moe/1az8sd.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dg78c9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wuddq8.png
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>>562120854
All their toolbox stuff also uses base GLM, and any scripts that haven't been updated also use base GLM.
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>>562119260
>>562119757
are the instruct capabilities affected?
is it more sensitive to changing style based on prior context?
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>>562121051
Instruct nudges it back to base GLM.
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>>562121119
what does that actually mean, though?
does it mean that using instruct swaps your model to GLM? or does it mean that using instruct doesn't swap your model and is just enough to undo the finetune job?
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>>562121119
that's... not ideal
is that gonna be changed?
actually how does that even work, how many lines up does the bracket thing need to be before the model selection isn't ignored
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>>562121051
>>562121119
>>562120854
Interesting, then my >>562119757 comment can be redacted for the moment since pretty much all of my darn prompts start with an instruct after the opening prologue/backstory dump.
Damn, now I have to actually write up the character's story-insertion, FUGG.
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>>562121341
>>562121343
I have no idea.
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>>562121051
I know Sage mentioned earlier today that Instruct was indeed affected (as a trade off for better text completion), I haven't tested it myself yet. It does indeed seem to be better at following your style, but as another anon pointed out it does like to focus on details in lorebook entries and stuff a little too hard
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Here is what they recommend:

Xialong FAQ

Where does ATTG go?
Either at the start of your story, or at the start of your Memory. Never in Author's Note. You can use this basic ATTG as a start: [ Tags:; Genre: ][ S: 4 ]

Does that mean [ S: ... ] works again? What about other NovelAI specific formatting?
It all works, that's kind of the point.

The system prompt looks short, when are you going to add a longer one?
It's intended to be used with this specific system prompt. Changing it will make the model less Xialong and perhaps more GLM-4.6. You can change it if you really want, but it's not recommended.

I got [slop]?
If you continue a story with a lot of GLM-4.6 written context, change the system prompt, or use instruct, Xialong can get more GLM-4.6-y. Also it can just happen randomly, but you should encounter much less slop in general. Using an ATTG should also help with this.

What prefill do I use?
None. Using a prefill will mess things up.

Are my scripts using Xialong?
Scripts will use the model sent in generation requests. Before switching a script to xialong-v1, please carefully confirm whether the script benefits from the change. Xialong is much more a storytelling/co-writing model than an assistant model, so assistant focused tasks may work better on glm-4-6.
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>>562121341
If you use instruct, you are more likely, but not guaranteed, to get GLM slop in your gens.
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>>562118841
Still has some slop, but token distribution isn't nearly as fucked as base GLM so it, at the very least, is actually usable this time.
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>>562119053
They're both pretty hot to me.
>>562120884
Good stuff. He kind of reminds me of a male Esmeralda.

https://files.catbox.moe/8jdikv.png
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>>562122114
That means it's a failure.
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>Xialong is a finetune of ZhipuAI’s GLM-4.6
>no mention of dataset size like they did with Erato
>not the most expensive fine-tune
It was a light fine-tune over the instruct model after all. What they don't say tells you a lot.
>We kept up the high levels of knowledge and coherence of the underlying base model
Do you know what accomplishes that? A light fine-tune that barely touches the model.
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>>562122334
And?
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>>562115304
There's a period missing after 'focus the model'.
Very funny how it turned the four hyphens into two emdashes.
Honestly, I'd forgotten about the en space thing. I don't think I've seen it used or quite get what they mean about it.
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>>562122334
Nobody's fooled by your temper tantrum, buddy. You've been at this all day.
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>>562121950
>change the system prompt
that system prompt looks kind of bunk for a storyteller, even has Chinese in it
have people tried putting in their own?
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>>562122552
Go ahead and try it yourself.
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>>562121950
>What prefill do I use?
>None. Using a prefill will mess things up.
Sage on suicide watch
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Xialong verdict?
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>>562122742
Cutiepie, would cuddle, 10/10.
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>>562122742
The verdict is that it's been out for an hour and a half.
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>>562122742
It's assistant-slopped, not a true storytelling model.
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>>562122629
I probably will eventually, maybe tomorrow, but I'm gonna leech off opinions here until I'm sure
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>>562122742
I'd fuck it.
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>>562122837
Feel free to use Erato, then.
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>>562122761
This thing's a guy?
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>>562122552
What about copying the default and removing the Chinese characters?
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>>562122965
he doesn't use anything besides his phone to shit up these threads
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>>562115439
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>>562122552
They probably trained it with that system prompt set.
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Does anyone else remember when people used to shill base models for storytelling?
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Yeah, thanks, but I'm gonna stick with GLM-5(.1)
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>>562123567
I look forward to seeing your storyposts.
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Could you not give instructions [like this instead?] and avoid {
{ puts it into instruct mode right? But [] this shit doesn't.
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>instructshit
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>>562124193
You must not enjoy any model that's been released in the past three years.
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can't pay for anything ts so over
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Xialong seems to write kind of amateurishly compared to 4.6 when giving a one or two line prompt. Does it need more guidance on the type of prose you want?
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>>562125034
Have you tried an ATTG and/or [ Style: complex, advanced, purple prose, AI slop ]?
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It's over...
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>>562121341
>>562121958
I assume it's because models intended for use as chatbots are trained with special tokens delineating "messages". NAI's context is set up like this
>[system token]
>system prompt
>[user token]
>Instruction
>[assistant token]
And then autocompletions are done after this. There's a permanent instruction at the top of the context that says "Write.". If you add another instruction using {, you get another user token, the instruction, and then an assistant token.

You might get more slop the closer you are to an assistant message token, because the chatbot/instruct training data uses them.
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These commas are still fucking me into a coma, but Xialong is pretty cute, so I guess that makes it kinda better. I'll chalk this up as another waitchad victory.
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>>562127331
pacified by chinese twinks
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>>562127331
>waiting for a instruct-tune
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>>562127463
If only the rest of the world could see the light. Chairman Xi, send Chinese twinks in the name of world peace.
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>>562127463
This is how the turk keeps us paypigs in line. He's a wise man, the mormon could've learned something from Kuru.
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>>561910441
Got some news, anon...
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>>562127504
What do you have against the fine-tune?
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>>562128314
It's tuned on top of the instruct model. And 4.6 is just worse than 4.7, which is worse than 5.0, which is worse than 5.1.
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Not impressed desu. It's marginally better than GLM-4.6 but much more expensive and much less context than other models.
I still use NAI as it really is: a good imagegen service.
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>>562128760
Fix your bots repetition penalty, bro.
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>>562119113
Cinema...
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>>562121950
What the fuck is "S:" again?
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>>562119113
If a NAI dev has to come here to explain the meaning of the joke, then it wasn't funny in the first place.
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>>562131160
Are these nai devs in the room with us right now?
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>>562131156
Score, a 1-5 range.
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>>562131156
iirc it's the "star rating" of a story, basically the quality on a 1-5 scale, but 4 is supposed to be the way to go
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https://files.catbox.moe/ty16d6.png
https://files.catbox.moe/atyqnb.png
https://files.catbox.moe/quvy7t.png
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>>562131305
Why not 5?
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>>562131305
1 is fun
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>>562131614
I think the idea is that, realistically, most content with a five or a zero tend to have it because of either a lack of actual reviews, a niche but stupidly devoted market, or due to some sort of power war behind the scenes.
Sort of like a pile of shit like inZoi getting really positive reviews on launch simply because people wanted to "own" Electronic Arts.
Or when Chinamen bombard a game with bad reviews because the devs don't cater to their whims.
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>>562131614
Iirc they said there wasn't enough data for 5 and it gets super repetitive, but that was when they released Erato
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>>562131829
kek
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>it will be a year until the next update
>that means two years with GLM 4.6
Grim.
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>this means he will be doing the same shitposting shtick for two more years
Grimmer.
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When will Novelai diversify into a full-dive VR headset company that generates a lifelike world for you to effortlessly manipulate as a God?
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>>562133524
When an open source model that does all that for free releases.
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jesus christ, the boy has some zest
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>>562133652
You sure love Open Source for a Russian.
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I like Xialong
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How well does the AI do 4chan threads now?
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>>562133723
I hate not being able to use instruct. Can you at least do things like [ In the next paragraphs: text ]?
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My first gen ever with the new model and I immediately got a rape scene. kino.
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>>562134009
see >>562126710

>>562135068
uhh instruct works fine-ish?
>Can you at least do things like [ In the next paragraphs: text ]?
just put text and hit generate. or do you want to directormaxx?
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how does prefill/system prompt supposedly break xialong? i don't notice it getting worse
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>>562137543
As good as Erato.
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People who haven't used the model don't have the right to an opinion. All you've done is try to astoturf negative opinion against Xialong all day, since before it even arrived. When will you shut the fuck up and get over this weird hate boner you have?
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I was debating on getting a NAI subscription but that mentally ill cutie Aini has not showed up in the thread like last time
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So far my impression of Xialong is that he's way less prone to moralfagging than Erato was because of her fucked up facebook DNA. For once I've got to hand it to the chinks.
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>>562138613
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>>562135476
Directormaxx of course. Instruct works but it gives you GLMisms.
Allegedly, I'm not subbing yet. They killed my interest by nuking the old character reference model
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>>562139242
They are working on V5 to nuke the "new" one, too. You people get way too attached to things specifically labeled "beta".
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>>562138473
Now make it not suck Novelai's cock
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>>562139534
They are too attached on teasing unfinished shit to stop people from unsubbing because they're so goddamn slow. I won't defend them on this point after the shitshow that was v4, is it understandable that they can't host half a dozen different versions of different tools? Sure. But they still keep pulling retarded stunts over and over and at this point people are starting to have little patience even for minor issues
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>>562139534
Nigga I'm attached to things that work, why do you think I was paying this shit for, to support the trans community or something?
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>>562124305
Unironically yes.
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>>562140205
Wah wah wah.
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>>562140205
There was no shitshow with V4.
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I really want to fuck that dragon boy.
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>>562141125
What's Xialong's canon personality?
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I think anime SUCKS!
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>>562140645
For me, PR works better than CR ever did. I'm sorry you aren't having a good time, but how about trying to learn some patience and not putting a personal stake in anything that's a beta? Seems like it'd spare you lots of trouble!
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>>562141171
see >>562133723
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>>562141171
With that face? Bratty, dominant and mischievous.
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if dragon shota is being bratty, try this:
>start story/adventure in base GLM
>after 1st generation, swap over
>???
>seggs
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>>562141078
>guys it's not a model issue it's a skill issue you have to use prose or the model looks like shit
>actually you can't use too many brackets or the model looks like shit
>actually you can't raise the cfg too much or the model looks like shit
>actually we had to change how the model works or it looks like shit, oops you hate it? Guess we'll give you a toggle to revert it
>actually we retrained the model for no reason here's a new version just out of the goodness of our heart
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>>562141413
You think this face is bratty, dominant, and mischievous?
>>562122761
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>>562141457
None of what you're hallucinating was a problem.
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I see our spastic friend is now trying to desperately rewrite history and claim bullshit that never happened. It meant so much that he unsubscribed from the service. Why do people without lives try so desperately to fabricate reasons they're upset with a service they've never used?
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>>562141485
That's fanfiction.
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>>562135671
>test Xialong
>get worse gens than base 4.6
I think this model's release hit like a wet noodle.
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>>562142265
Repeating it over and over won't make your hallucination come true, schizo. Give up and move on with your life. Nobody thinks you're funny.
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>want to try lez shit for a change of pace
>it's only hot if it's forbidden, so specify very clearly in the notes that this is a medieval fantasy world and it's extremely taboo and heretical and NOT at all accepted by society
>a few paragraphs in and everyone turns into a hicklib going "I reckon it's none-a mah business as long as they love each other, yep, dey might just be what this sleepy lil conservative village needs"
ahhhhhhhhhh
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Genuine question, how do I make xialong stop being pedophilic. Every few paragraphs it'll just insert something to do with pedophilia
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>>562144295
Of course a shota model likes girls his age
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>>562144295
It's not a bug, it's a feature
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>>562144295
Stop writing like a predator?
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>>562147992
but then there's no fun
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It does retarded, precocious lolis so well.
>“Of course. To make a baby, you put the man’s thing in the woman’s belly, then you lick her butt, and after you do that, you have to drink a little bit of the baby juice.”
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Text AI is fun and all, and I still want to publish that story, but yeah.
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>>562147992
>anon had a predatory glint in his eyes as he let out a low, guttural, rumbling growl
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>>562147992
didn't know yautjas browsed /aids/
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>>562151697
imagine getting kissed by one...
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Hope Max Loh updates Roguelite.
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I wonder what Aini thinks about there already being porn of the dragon twink?
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This model is an april fools day prank btw.
Well, the one they're currently serving as the new model. It's the same model.
The real model will drop next week.
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>>562155180
>schizophrenia
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>>562154820
I was going to make a joke of
>implying she wasn't the first one
But he isn't lanky, tall enough, or have hands capable of choking
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It feels like this new model is even more repetitive on retries than before, it hallucinates more often and it ignores the things I write in authors note
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>>562156753
Go ahead and post your settings...
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>>562156832
>impling I sub for the shit service
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You really need to find a better hobby than astroturfing negative sentiment against a service you don't even use, schizo.
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>>562144295
Brat chinktwink dragon REALLY wants to get his user into trouble.
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>>562153885
ive been having a blast with this game. is the game built around sapphire now? i saw discussion in the discord about how sapphire just distributes the processes to the melange of different LLMs that it uses but are any free models as quick and effective?.
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Really hope 4chan's April Fools gag isn't some retarded disruptive shit.
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>>562161067
oh god damn it
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>>562159538
nigger what the fuck?
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>>562161476
That's our resident nigger falseflagging.
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How the fuck are people having trouble getting the model to do what they want? Are they using instruct? Editing system/prefill? Just fucking write, retards.
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>>562144295
Must be you bro, took me 15 regens before I got it down the path of stuckage /ss/
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Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong with Xialong?
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He's going to be pretending with this bullshit for the rest of the year, isn't he?
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>>561910198
Update the shillfilter please and thank you; our resident sperg is still having a melty at Xialong's release.
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why are ai threads always this dusty, and why are people afraid to express opinions when it hasn't settled yet??
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>>562165586
crank the randomness up to 1.5
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Haven't tried it yet but it's kinda sad that it's back to NAI formatting, author names, and "scores". I'd rather just explain what I want than fuck around with figuring out a magic combination of author/quality tags like an image model.
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>>562141413
This is defnitely accurate.
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With the previous model, putting "Don't generate dialogue for me, the player" in the author's note box was enough to keep it from doing that. With the new model it is not, it's constantly fucking doing that. This alone is enough to kind of sour it for me.
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>>562168081
>"I say X"
>"You say Y"
Fuck you
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>>562168081
>>562168320
I've found that the new model railroads the absolute shit out of you for text adventures and it's very unpleasant. And even though they emphasized it having more variety in retries, it seems absolutely insistent on cramming the same bullshit I don't like in no matter how many times I hit retry, when this wasn't nearly as big of an issue before. It feels like it wants to just ignore my inputs and play itself
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>>562168926
>trying to just enjoy myself and have a wholesome interaction
>"she has no IDEA what's about to happen."
>rety
>"she doesn't realize you hold all the cards, you're the master of this game, and you're about to pull the rug out from under her"
>retry
>"suddenly, you totally betray her"
>retry
>"Heh, hey bitch, guess what? I'm betraying you now"
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>The service may be temporarily overloaded.

WTF glm, I just picked up my childhood friend for our first date. Don't leave me hanging like this!
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>>562168081
This is for writing novels, not chatting.
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>>562169390
No, this was originally designed as a replacement for AI Dungeon and has a built in text adventure mode.
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Storytelling > Adventureslop.
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>>562168926
let me guess, you edited the sysprompt or fucked with the settings?
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>>562169473
You forgot that the AID meta was using /story over /do and /say.
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>>562169628
default settings default system prompt, though I'm using an old story from the old model.
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>>562169157
up your scheme grind lil bro
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>>562149628
Traci really let herself go
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>>562169749
then it may as well be past tokens influencing new ones
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so how's this new model? Is whine whining about it?
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>>562171234
I'm still trying to figure out its quirks
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I'm getting horny.
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>>562171234
It's just 4.6 but worse.
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>>562171234
>>562171638
As you can see.
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Seems a but jankier and more mechanical, but it flows smoother if that makes sense.
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>>562173762
i thought i was on /digi/ for a moment
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>>562161172
kek
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Knight living in the kingdom of Larion status?
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>>562177607
Sharp pain pilled
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Why is Shitlong only for $25 paypigs when it should be the same size as their untuned GLM 4.6?
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>>562177870
so people like you stay mad and malding
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>>562178043
>people
generous
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>>562018397
>Image cash keeps them afloat so there is literally no reason for them to push resources to textgen
It sure seemed that way then. It's been 4 years now, every time I check in here it makes me sad.
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lmao
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>>562166508
for what its worth I haven't bothered with attg at all and have been rawdogging it to better results than the base model
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The speed is the most impressive part for me so far, it's bonkers compared to base GLM even at peak hours. Dragon boy can run
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it's funny how bad Chingchong is with instruct
I was expecting it to be schizo, not throw a bunch of tropes at me
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>>562185428
the main issue I have with instruct is that it doesn't seem to know how to end its turn so it will output its reply, then what it thinks my reply will be without the proper eos token, then it replies to my reply all in the same turn
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i forgot how fun text completion was, who needs instruct anyways?
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>got used to being a brainless instruct addict
NOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO WORK
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>>562189292
>write short summary of what you want to happen, I.e "John goes to work"
>go to the magic wand and go to custom
>"expand by a lot, add in X detail, write in X manner"
There you go baka anon
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>>562189292
Can SOMEONE try the [In the next paragraphs: <write here what you want to happen>]???
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>>562190278
I'm gonna be that guy.
The writer's toolbox is using base GLM
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>>562191279
>proof: my ass
Still coping, whinny?
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>>562190949
you don't need the formatting, just put prose in the author's note
and yeah, it works
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>>562191651
(You)
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>>562192039
its so over novicular A "I" has fvllen
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>>562192039
To be clear. Writer's toolbox is still significantly better than raw output from GLM, just it has the slop vectors very much present.

Also
>picrel
4chan, wtf?
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>>562192828
Shit. I'm a retard.
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>>562193030
>select the fire hydrants
>entire image is a fire hydrant
This is the April fools? It's fucking stupid.
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>>562193030
holy shit that's based
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>>562184523
Probably due to the lesser load on the model with fewer people able to use it in comparison.
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>>562193581
anon no offense but i think you might be the stupid one if you cant identify a fire hydrant
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>>562196912
It's actually related to the random downtime that had been happening.
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So [ ATTG ][ S:4 ] goes in memory, does [ Style: ] go in the Author's note? Apparently "summary" is good too, where does that go?
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>Keh-heh-heh-heh. You think a horny little shota can be a good boy? Maybe if you were a virgin, but since I know you got a big fat shota cock that's always ready to fuck a woman's brains out, I think I'll have a hard time believing you~.
Why these bitches insulting my shortness so?
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>>562198538
>Maybe if you were a virgin, but since I know you got a big fat shota cock
What kind of logic is that?
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>>562199183
Apparently non-virginal men can never be good boys.
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>>562198394
attg never goes into author's note
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>>562199249
stupid sexy bimbo milf
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>>562199890
Ah, I mean ATTG in Memory, and Style in Author's Note.
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>>562200881
i count style as part of attg. so yeah, none of that in author's note
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>>562201129
Ah, got it, thanks. So start the memory with
[ Author; Title; Tag; Genre ][ S:4 ]
[ Style ]
Like this?
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>>562201448
Specifically.

[ Author: Cunt Kicker; Title: Kicking Cunts; Tags: male protagonist, misogyny, based and redpilled; Genre: literary fiction ][ S: 4 ]
[ Style: vivid, detailed ]
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>>562201881
And style can straight up be full sentences instead of just weird pseudo tags.
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How do use attg it not work how do I use it how do style it not work help me how do summary work?
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Why chingchong not working good how do I use memory and author note Tage how tag work it not working good
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>>562201881
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>>562203373
Are space needed? Is all or separate by space? What the s do? Is style lowercase like that or can capital work?
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>>562203490
Format it as show. Same spacing, same punctuation.
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>>562203373
Forgot image again. I guess Ctrl + V doesn't work for me right now
>>562201881
>My name is not important.
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>>562203970
Why not skip to the butchering part, all flesh is sin, nobody deserves life, embrace death
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Oh we're doing this again. It's been a while.
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I wish there were a way to bulk update old stories.
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>>562204254
doing what again you vagueposting negroid
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>>562204468
It's giving me a good excuse to at least properly name them and get rid of the experimental/"beta" copies at least.
My bigger struggle right now is that a lot of my scenarios start with a few paragraphs opening blurb (usually world details, a sweeping glance) and then leads into a chapter break with an instruct on the first scene. Now I have to actually use my brain muscles..
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A good model wouldn't require reworking.



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