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Locked In Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/post-232903

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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>>562152578
>>562152660
based
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Sex with Venator
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>>562152946
Is there more GravesxSilver? Please post more.
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>>562152965
Ameno, Ameno
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so do i just build graves for skulls and zombies now
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>>>/v/736128843
/dlg/bros, is this true? Was the game in a better state a year ago?
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>>562153238
yea the gun build sucks now
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>>562153296
I want her to kick me with her bare feet and call me slurs
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I'm going to fuck the mole
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i know street brawl is just for insanity
but seraphim wings are so busted compared to all the others
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Yo where are the Sìlver buffs?
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>>562153458
Wraith...
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>>562153584
I'm going to combo his fucking prostate man
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So......Wyoming...
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Silver did nothing wrong
Free my girl
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Why are there so few shotguns in this game and even fewer shotgun characters that can viably build towards weapon damage? I know I'm ignoring the elephant in the room that is this general's favorite shitposting target, but this is a real question I have.
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Icefrog's game design always leads to boring ass braindead heroes. It's why League won. the game is more focused on items than cool hero kits.

Just look at this game. The majority of abilities are just grenades or daggers. There's not a single hero out of the current 38 that actually require high skill to execute their kits. All the difficulty is in the movement and macro, there's really no micro.

Riot is going to come in and destroy the shit out of this game when they make their version.
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>>562153296
No if anything the new base is easier for defenders, I think a lot of people still haven't adapted from the old map and don't understand how important it is to fight when they try going for the shrines now. The only easier part of attacking a base is taking the base guardians because there aren't windows anymore.
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>3 games in a row with the exact same Shiv/Kelvin duo premade on the enemy team
stop molesting Graves with nerfs and fix your fucking matchmaking already, you fat green dinosaur fucker
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>>562153781
I know.
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>>562153841
What do you mean bro? When Lion stuns me for 6 seconds using his point-and-clicks followed by dealing 900 magic damage I feel my gameplay experience was greatly improved.
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>>562153016
honestly i'd play with a group if you want to climb
solo queue is such a toss-up, there's no reason to get pressed over these circus clown performances
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>my silver bought mercurial magnum and transcendent cooldown
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>>562153458
krill...
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SENDING BEETLE!
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>>562153884
He can't hear you bro, he's already on the plane to Hawaii
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graves needs to be nerfed again
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>>562153238
You can build gun but it's an uphill battle where your kit doesn't help at all, like gun ivy in a way.
>zombies
Buy slowing hex and heroic aura, spirit life steal helps and throw the skulls when you're on top of them, from there you can go one of two routes with the shard, either root/zombie maxxing or skull maxxing, skulls do more damage but are janky as fuck, if they dash away the skulls will just follow you until you hit them, even then some skulls will just wander off for no reason, probably distracted by graves's stinky musk, also careful about shooting minnons when you summon the skulls in lane, they'll target the minnons instead of an enemy because they don't have built in priorities.
Try to play with your team, the zombies are really weak and easy to disable in normal settings, you need to catch the enemy off guard or when they're distracted
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>>562153974
>transcendent cooldown
viable
>mercurial magnum
uh oh.
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Fuck it, I'm going back to buying egg and trophy collector, yes I am fucking evil
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recommend me streamers please. what I want:
>no super toxic people like metro
>no super gay/weird voice and mannerisms like zergy
>no trans
>vtubers ok but ONLY if they are biologically female
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>>562153841
League is just as boring as DOTA2 though. Just in different ways. But it's true that they're making the game less fun with each balance patch.
MOBA is a dead genre anyway, they made a fundamental mistake by making Deadlock a MOBA. It's a shame such great character designs (visual), voice acting, setting, music and lore are all wasted on a fucking MOBA.
Maybe Risk of Rain mode will save the game, but I really doubt it.
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>>562153884
>stop molesting Graves
I mean...let's be real anons, who wouldn't?
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>>562154291
Xera
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>>562154291
Alkaizerx
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>>562153716
>Vindicta
>Mina
>Celeste (maybe)
>Paige (maybe)
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>>562153716
i hate how western animation has these soulless faces
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>>562153884
The reason why the recent patches have outrageously bad balance is to distract people from the fact that the matchmaking has been dogshit for TWO FUCKING YEARS. they literally haven't touched it since people got the access to the closed testing, before the mass invites
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>>562154291
John deadlock aka mast is probably the most chill even mannered tuber for deadlock right now
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>>562153020
>Is there more GravesxSilver?
It's a niche within a niche, the game generally doesn't get fanart and smut so crackships get even less, also, idk where to find fanart since most artfags don't tag their shit
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>>562154676
this game only has 80k players concurrent. let's say this is split across regions, so around 25k per region. now, this is further split across ranks, so 2.5k per rank. Furthermore, 90% of those players are in game so only around 250 players are looking for matchmaking at a given time.

NOW, this is even harder to matchmake because the game needs to pull unique heros for every person that they like, as well as do bans. If they tried to make games as fair as possible matchmaking would most likely take 10+ minutes even at the average ranks.
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>>562154981
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>>562152795
How bad was the recent patch? Haven't played in a couple weeks.
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>>562155146
I'd rather wait 2 hours for one fair match than get 3 dogshit matches withing 7 minutes from each other.
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https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=17022054

Deadtards?
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>>562155146
Don't give me that bs about player ase size this shit sucked before the exodus and it sucks now that we have more players again.
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>>562155330
matches def happened faster right after the old gods new blood update. now i have to wait 5-10 mins in ritualist
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victor will get buffs today i know it
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>>562155317
No, you probably wouldn't.
And even on the offchance you're not lying to blindly vent your retard frustrations, most other people wouldn't
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>>562155161
I'm beginning to like pocket mina cause of this artist
>>562155195
>recent
They just focus nerfed graves, her passive is back to being completely and utterly useless
>couple of weeks
Shiv has 3 stamina again, victor was lobotomised, mirage is hitler now too, seven and dyanmo have yet to receive the nerfs they deserve, dyanmo especially being left untouched for the longest time ever while having the most braindead overtuned kit imaginable
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-25-2026-update.121766/#post-232903
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/03-21-2026-update.120256/
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>>562155146
Nigga, 80k is a massive player base and more than enough for quality matchmaking. Many multiplayer games do better matchmaking with less.
Valve's matchmaking in general is dogshit. It's the SAME garbage code in CS2 and DOTA2
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Mina mains look like this?!
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>>562155317
>staring at a screen for 2 hours
That's 4 matches and at least one of them is fair
>THE CAPTCHA CHANGED
ANONS?!!! ARE WE HACKED?!?!? IM SCARED, WHAT DATE IS IT TODAY?!?!?
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holy shit victor is now the least picked in eternus with 47% wr lmfao he is the worst character in the game
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TOIME TO END THAIR MISERABLE EXISTENCE
>*gashunk*
missed
>*gashunk*
missed
>*gashunk*
missed
>*death scream*
The Lord's work is done.
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Hello fellow 4chinners I am back because some retard in the shiv channel of discord said that maxing knives is worse than dash. I cant be around such retardedness it will infect me
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>>562155727
I played about 3000 matches of Deadlock if the stats are not lying. At some point I started to write down the matches that felt fair and balanced. No stomps, no matter if I win or lose. The matches that felt fair. You know how many I counted out of 3000? 156. That is an abysmal number. The other 2844 were a legit waste of time roflstomp, because even when I win those I feel nothing, it's like stealing a candy f om a baby. That is what people mean when they say Deadlock has an abysmal matchmaking. It wastes your time with low quality games that are not fun even when you win.
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>>562156239
your telling me that vindicta woke up after 200 years and the first thing she does it buy mascara and start crying so it runs down her face
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April fools update at 1pm pst
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100 games as seven
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>>562156027
and thats a good thing
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>>562156309
>he isn't auramaxxing like vindicta
ngmi
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>>562156239
I simply don't believe you however
You are more likely than not an inigtiate blaming your poor performance on matchmaking
Further, even if you're not lying, your criteria for a 'fair' match is probably some retarded shit like "never had more than a 10k soul swing till the end", and your 'solution' is simply "shitters shouldn't be in my games, i'm too important"
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>>562156334
all icefrog had to do was lower his spirit scaling with aura by 5% each patch until his WR was around 50-54% and call it a day
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>>562154291
ster
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>>562156450
Nigga that has nothing to do with performance. My winrate is slightly above 50% same as most players
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>>562156027
>9% pick rate
It's actually genuinely fucking over and they won't be fixing him for an entire month.
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>>562156027
deserved fate
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>>562156595
>didn't even bother trying to contest the actual points, focuses only on the low hanging fruit
OK, keep crying
Not my problem
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>>562156450
Hi Yoshi. Stop seething and fuck off to Hawaii and stay there
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>>562155858
those male monkey ears
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>>562156713
What points? You're just seething at the actual data.
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>Be Seven
>Fly into air
>Venator 1 shots me with blessed headshot ult
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>>562156172
Curious. I don't remember making this post, but here it is.
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>>562156450
Typical Valve drone, will defend his beloved multibillion company even after Gaben whopped his ass raw and dry
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>>562156873
Maybe you shouldn't do that when Venator has his ult up
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>Take both of their shrines entering through green while they're doing mid boss
>Die on the way out
>Like 5 minutes later when we kill 3 of them and go push mid we notice their first stage patron was already taken and neither team noticed it happening so the game just ends like that
lol, maybe they should add some other line that isn't a generic "you need to make a stand and stop them!!!" so your team knows it's about their base and not because someone is on killing spree
also something to actually kill minions inside the base
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>>562157019
The current courses through me…
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idk how strong victor was before nerfs but im having fun playing as him in archon 2
i like his kit
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Fair matchmaking only possible for 1v1 games. Matchmaking 6 people vs 6 people fairly is a nonsense.
In general, matchmaking is not how you balance team games. Especially MOBAs. You need a different approach completely.
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>>562156873
get smited by the wrath of god
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>be Oracle 4
>Played my first regular match in 2 weeks.
>The entire enemy team was a 6 top of obvious smurfs.
>all level 0 accounts
>all have exactly 6 games played
>all have only played eith each other
>there was also a smurf on my team
>the match ended in 12 minutes
Whelp, back to brawl, normal is absolutely fucked.
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>>562156849
>What points?
>even if you're not lying, your criteria for a 'fair' match is probably some retarded shit like "never had more than a 10k soul swing till the end", and your 'solution' is simply "shitters shouldn't be in my games, i'm too important"

>actual data.
Shit you claimed to have, and shit that is probably made up

Statistically, you are probably just some shitter making shit up
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>>562157605
you are but a fool. everyone knows for every loss you bank eomm will reward you with an easy win in the next 2-5 games
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>>562153296
Base is easier to defend, making Teamfight ults like Dynamo and Lash much much better. However, to counteract this, Midboss is so easy and fast to kill with current meta heroes that one death with the wrong comp can lead to instant enemy rejuv.
Urn runs are very important but they are also such a joke because by the time you're behind enough for a comeback Urn, the enemy is strong enough to contest it, best you can do is bait the urn turn and send someone to die for a walker when you're behind.
It's entirely dependent on comp realistically, certain team compositions are gonna have a harder time earlier, but when mid-game 20-23 minutes come around they can actually work to win a fight.
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>>562157356
hes still really fun but its fucking miserable playing him rn at oracle 3-5
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>>562157605
>brawl
you know there are a lot of people still just doing nothing but brawling in normal mode
there is a large clump of them making league players angry at around phantom 4 since they are shit at macro but mechanically superior enough to also shit down moba players throats
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>>562156717
>>562157015
>i've actually played 3k games and i actually autistically logged every single one for how fair it is
>you're literally yoshler if you doubt this i can't even right now just say mm's broken like everyone else does it's not hard
Sorry! I just don't believe you is all. In fact, I might even go so far as to say I think you're telling fibbies.
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>>562157710
Wrong. The reason I haven't played normal in 2 weeks is because I'm on a 31 loss streak.

>>562158182
I don't care. At least in brawl it's not 6 stacks of smurfs where the clearly E6 Infernus kills my team's Venator 21 times in lane.
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>>562156873
just parry it
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>>562158182
macro is easy as fuck
is lane going to crash into my objective? yes? then i will go clear. otherwise i will do sinners or jungle or crates in that order.
do i have ult up or is it a urn fight? then i will teamfight. otherwise i will split push.
is it 20+ minutes and we just got 2-3 picks? do mid boss
we just took shrines and got patron to half health? we will leave and take their jungle
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I buy Counterspell and proceed to not use it when I need it most
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>>562156873
it's hilarious when a Seven panic ults and you can just lay into him
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>Play Mohammad and Kareem
>Brain off
>Win game
>Play Mohammad and Kareem
>Brain off
>Lose game
>Same result
I HAVE FUN
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THE OL' GORGON SPECIAL
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>>562159163
what's she doing
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>>562159224
Gooning
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>>562159163
>starves every teammate of souls unless they deny every friendly
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how come haze is the only hero in this game with a near instakill ult
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>>562159334
I AM REBORN
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>>562159334
did you know haze canonically has autism
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>>562159541
did you know lady geist canonically gave $1.2B USD in political donations to the state of israel
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>>562156643
there's no way they will leave victor fucked for the whole month right
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>barely win 70 minute game
>have lost all will to play

is it joever?
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you let haze farm for 20 minutes unmolested? well now you lose!
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basedleste is gay
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>>562159904
tales from seeker
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>>562159809
Haha yeah
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>>562152795
Rem art will always be hilarious. We need more cute creatures (and a male werewolf husband but they’ll probably make him another black woman)
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>>562156873
>doesn't have any life steal
Jackass
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a venator isnt even a real cathlotic thing
lame
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>>562159656
>Can only extend her life by sucking the souls out of everyone around her
Biiiiiiiit on the nose
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>>562157810
I genuinely don't get what purpose Urn is serving nowadays aside from allowing the team with advantage get an even bigger advantage if they feel like it.
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>>562160457
take it, go to your safe side and just hold it to force an entire team rotation while your compatriots push their walker
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>>562159076
>Moseph and Krilliam
>win game
>look at enemy team
>higher rank
>look the match up on stat website
>the wraith that me and my lane partner farmed 7 kills on by the time sinners spawned is the highest ranked person in the lobby by a huge margin, like genuinely 3 tiers, not numbers but whole tiers, higher
Crazy things going on down here in shitlow
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>>562152795
>prioritize gun, damage, and venom first for vyper
>losing streak

>prioritize speed, stamina, reactive, and slither first
>immense success

The builds lie. Double down on the speed and it will lead you to your destiny.
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>>562160308
Not enough scary demons and evil vampires in the real world.
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>>562159656
I don't think israel exists in deadlock
There's no evidence still WWI happened in a world where the maelstrom, and with no WWI there's not much reason for a Nazi Germany nor the holocaust nor Israel being established
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>>562160589
Yoshi wylin'
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>>562160457
>I genuinely don't get what purpose Urn is serving
Forcing teamfights, same as midboss same as drake, same as baron nashor, this has been figured out before deadlock even came out anon
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>>562160457
>enemy picks up urn
>go to drop off as character with disjointing stun
>bola/hotel the carrier
>laugh manically as you secure the urn and go back to farming uninterrupted
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>>562159998
please anon give me hope
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>>562160709
>April fools captcha gives me ayla from chrono trigger
Also the plan for jews to establish a state existed long before ww1
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Let’s see what this dick can do
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>>562160596
>Speed makes you harder to hit and increases your ability to escape dogpiles and roam
I feel like this would be more useful at low ranks, and get worse against more skilled players.
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>>562160932
Well yeah I'm not saying zionists couldn't exist, I'm just saying Israel as we know it existing would be retarded
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>>562157645
>>562158189
These anons have a Stockholm syndrome
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Guys an Israel analogue already exists in the lore you can stop fighting
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>>562161586
>a Stockholm syndrome
Just one? Do they have to share?
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>>562161615
I can't believe Viscous is jewish...
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>>562161737
You mean gooish?
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>>562161737
>>562161798
>Jews turned into goos and established Israel in the Bermuda triangle
>Cthulhu is just Atlantic Hitler and is probably a giant Dolphin or something which is why Viscous is trying to get the patrons to destroy him
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>>562161737
>>562161798
>>562162039
IT'S IXIA YOU RETARDS
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>longer than 60 seconds to find a match
im only rit 1 isnt that the average rank? why the fuck does this take so long
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>>562161737
>>562161798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq4incEJJQ8
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why did i get that green faggot from legend of zelda in my captcha?
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>>562162439
vicsou?
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>>562162168
Jews are not gigachads with noble intentions like Infernus and abrams
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>get banned from /v/ for "posting off topic"
>several off topic threads are still up, ranging from porn to complaining about april fools
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>my drifter tried to 1v1 their haze and she just ulted and killed him
>this happened 4 times in a row
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>>562162825
Don't bother interacting with /v/ermin
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>>562162825
>/v/
there's your first mistake
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Goodnight everyone I hope I wake up tomorrow with victor buffs love u all
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>>562162825
/v/ has been /b/ with vidya theme for well over a decade now.
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>wraith's ult is a point and click stun + debuff + pull + slow + silence on all movment abilities
>metro has the audacity to ever complain about autoaim
We live in a clownworld
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>>562163193
just counterspell wraith ult
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yes, I will insist on getting blue lane
no, I will not be unlocking bell as my first or second ability
yes, I will get active items like gaurdian ward and knockdown (they increase ability range)
no, I will not trade blue walker for another walker or urn
yes, I will rush vortex web as my first t4
no, I will not have any health
yes, I will try to send enemies to blue walker every moment my cooldowns are up
no, I will not do any damage
yes, a portal to safety will open in your moment of need (if you are in my range)
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>>562156027
I called it before. His kit flows well, it makes sense conceptually, it really fits the character, but it is fundamentally broken for the kind of game this is. He'll always be either turbo broken or a throw pick and the facts the devs didn't realize this as they were making him is insane to me.
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IVE GOT THEM
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WE HAVE YOU NOW
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I GOT YOU, YOU SON OF A BITCH!
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YOU MESSED WITH THE WRONG TEAM
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I SEE THE ENEMY
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>>562162168
You mean Wyoming.
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>>562160457
I really dislike urn as an objective. Its just so frustrating for pubs because it uniquely requires the entire team to play around it, either to help you deliver or to push somewhere else as you bait, and even in phantom-ascendant lobbies where i usually play its really difficult to coordenate with randoms. On top of that its just absurdly valuable to the point where its probably the single most important objective in the game (midboss is better, but its for finishing games, urn wins you games in the long-run), and its also just kind of useless as a comeback mechanic if the enemy team is competent. It also disproportinately rewards people who spend hours training movement routes, which i personally find annoying. I just wish they'd completely give up on it at this point and add a new objective to the game
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Headed to greenwich
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>>562164503
>It also disproportinately rewards people who spend hours training movement routes
more competitive games should do this
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I don't really know what else I can learn or how else I can improve. Every other game 2 people on my team go 0-7 in lane and every walker gets fucked 20 minutes in. You can't even hypercarry your way out because you literally can't get online fast enough before your base is being sieged. They need to just hard reset the ranks and let everyone recalibrate.
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>>562164503
how feasible would a king of the hill objective style be? like a control point opens up and teams fight for control, whichever team has control of it passively gains souls, and the control point only has X amount of souls to give total
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>>562164656
Remember the 40-40-20 moba rule: 40% of games will be unwinnable. 40% of games are borderline impossible to lose. You need to focus on winning the remaining 20%. If your winrate is over 50%, you will rank up.
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>>562153957
Or when old Necro kills you with his ult allowing you to have the time to cook your dinner while waiting to respawn? good times
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so am i still buying split shot on graves?
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Big Mina love
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>>562164834
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>>562164665
The problem with that is that the maintenance required would be extremely annoying to borderline impossible. First off, where would it even be located at? An objective like that requires space. The only places i can think of that wouldn't require drastic changes to the map are in each team's jungle, where the comeback urn delivery spots currently are. So you'd need two control points, one on each side of the map. Dota had something like this with shrines, basically adds a necessity to defend your jungle from invaders. But i feel like its kind of a boring objective, holding a control point on the enemy side of the map is basically unfeasible unless you're absurdly ahead and are going to win anyway, and otherwise it just ends up being an annoying distraction that you have to defend every now and then from someone trying to rat it.
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>>562163923
>>562164164
>>562164250
>>562164392
>>562164547
DEFEND THE STRONGHOLD
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>Enemy Graves : Places ult on side lanes off CD, has the lane permapushed making it much harder to get map control
>Graves on my team : saves gravestone all game, uses it in the middle of the enemy team where it gets punched immeidately and does nothing
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>>562165171
every time
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>>562164834
we're echo sharding cumjars and magic carpet riding now
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Haze is Missing
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>graves gets nerfed
>suddenly haze is in every single game again
I'm noticing
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YOU WILL BE JUDGED
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>>562165389
krills missing
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Scout
Spider-Man
Genji
Mina
What do they all have in common?
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HEADED TO BLUE
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>>562165427
Sex appeal?
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>>562165408
i mean haze megarapes graves
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>>562165463
GOOD TIMES
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What happens to Holliday once she finally meets the Troubadour?
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>>562165569
She gets raped
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>>562165639
When is Victor getting hotifxed?
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>>562165569
She'll get fucking massacred The Troubadour seems to be like a super murder killer machine even Drifter warns her not to find him shes just a normal woman with a revolver she'd get fucked EVERYONE wants her not to find him she just wont listen though
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I don't care if I win or lose, I just want the enemy team to suffer as much as possible. Who should I play?
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kinda crazy that removing T3 dispel was all it took to put Victor from S+ tier to F tier
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>>562165851
Doorman Ult build
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>>562165427
Played exclusively by third worlders?
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>>562165851
Mirage
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>>562165851
Viscous puddle punches.
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>>562165427
trans
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>>562165427
played by trannies
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I just can’t fucking stand these players. I’m done playing this game. Wake me up when these fucking trannies and shitskins can’t mass report you, and the real valve niggers come in and occupy
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>>562166052
Same reason why I dropped league. Motherfuckers would rather lose to spite a teammate than be competitive at a competitive game
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Annihilate the Oriental Menace
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why did people from Philly love Vyper's bola
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>>562165802
>even Drifter warns her not to find him
That wasn't the reason, he said it's because the troubadour will turn her into a hobby, he doesn't know that someone is after him and what he did to her sister was just another tuesday for him, but if holliday keeps going he'll have a target instead of raping random people
>shes just a normal woman with a revolver
Bruh, she's literally the granddaughter of a legendary cowboy and uses his revolver, it's not a regular weapon, also her spirit lasso is literal magic
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>doorman on team does nothing
>viscous on team does nothing
>paradox on team does nothing
>rem on team does nothing
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Just another day playing my favorite roster of Doorman, Viscous, Paradox, and Rem
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>>562164741
I know that matchmaking just says "fuck you EOMM time" but it doesn't really take away from how pointless it feels to try to improve when almost half of my games are just doomed from the moment I load into the lobby. I dunno, I'm at 55% wr and climbing slowly, it's fine, I'm just tilted from too many "guess I just had to lose that one" tonight where you just go through the motions and can't learn much because your team just fuckin loses.
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>>562165851
Mo + disarm + transcend cooldown + superior extension
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>>562166529
>Troubadour becoming obsessed with Holliday
I'm surprised an ao3 fanfic of this hasn't been written yet
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>>562166787
if someone goes 0/3 in lane and doesn't buy regen at all i just afk now. they're clearly a new player or mentally retarded but either way 0 chance we're winning. this is after 50 games of "trying" when eomm puts feeders on your team, lost every one of those 50 games
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ngl playing Trap Grey Talon in Street Brawl is the most cancerous shit I've played in Deadlock. It's closest to Deadlock's equivalent to Techies
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>>562167034
It does 25 damage, what do you mean
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>>562166958
I switch to my splitpushing build when that happens, just ignore other heroes and rat the entire game its pretty fun
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xqc is playing Deadlock WWWWWWWWW
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>>562167121
Doing damage isn't the goal. The point is to annoying the shit out of them with Birds and Traps. The rest of the team can handle the kills. The highest curse duration I could get it up to is 5 seconds on a 4 second cooldown Trap. You just sprinkle that slop everywhere and they can't cast any spells or shoot.
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>enemy shiv 1v4 my team because they dont know how he works and were fighting him all on the mid boss stairs
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Man i really like spirit Haze. Hitting people with nuclear knives, dealing damage with toxic and/or tesla, ulting for 20 seconds straight and having 200+ bullets in the mag. Shame its just a bit too shit for the rank i'm currently in.
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>>562156309
When they do the remodelling I hope they change her face again, especially her hair where the old one was better in this case. She looks like a fucking hag or a "generic night elf" as some would say, instead of a
>"I was a CHILD when I was killed..."
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does damage from rem's little helpers on minions scale with anything? can i build a solid split push build by augmenting them in any way? does heroic aura benefit helpers?
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>>562167271
It's over, the matchmaking system won't be able to handle the influx of retards
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>>562167698
heroic aura is the best way to split push on rem, just drop some helpers and heroic aura before moving to the next lane
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>Helpers will take a nap for 15.1s after following someone.
lazy little negros
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>>562167971
Dont call them that.
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doorman doesn't have a domain expansion. he just teleports someone to another dimension. the main thing of a domain expansion is that YOU are in your domain expansion. god i hate you guys
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>>562166896
AO3 fujos/troons aren't tremendously productive or proactive, nor are coomers even when being funded by other coomers(granted it's penny novel rates for smut in most cases). You will have to wait years for any decent amount of textual smut to be available, possibly a decade or so. And even then only 30% or so will be longer than 1000 word shits. Fucking hate those queers who think I can get off to less than 5k words. Deadlock
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>>562165851
Graves, Cooldown Reduction Refresher spam your ult off cooldown
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>>562156239
Obviously unfair matchmaking is compounded by mobas having snowballing effects for the winner
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Hathorne hero when? and let him have chemistry with Vindicky
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>it's so hard to find good help
>calico and wraith are in the game
what did doorman mean by this
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You'se just a lil helper, still youse mine, all mine.
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Hello /dlg/, Alchemist 3 here. How do I stop cat calico running urn at mach speed?
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>>562168809
kill her
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>>562168809
you go to the urn drop off location and kill her hope this helps
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why does shiv bob his head in his idle animation
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>>562165427
double jumps
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>>562168956
hes a disco FREAK
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silver's puffy cookie..........
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>be doorman
>billy bothers ulting around me at all ever
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>>562168956
ADHD
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>>562159334
One 3200 item hard counters the whole hero
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Which hero cucks Silver's wolf form the hardest?
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>>562169420
I don't know if the Silver was retarded, but I clowned on one earlier as Graves. Just played around the wall so she couldn't get close while my skulls and m1 did all the work
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>>562169420
Metal skin
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>>562169420
Doorman
The answer is always Doorman
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>>562169341
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>>562168728
haha based
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why does Valve insist on making such over involved shooters, literally so much going on, is it moba or hero shooter?
just stick to 1 thing
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Just watched a Silver go a full 40 minute game and only managed to go wolf form once
Just remove this piece of shit from the game I'm tired of seeing them job on my team and dominate on their team
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>>562169732
Heh nothing personal but METAL SKIN
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>>562169925
that's boring and youre gay
stick to being boring or gay not both
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>>562169925
>more depth is le bad
rivals is right there lil bro
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>>562170346
>>562170284
stick to Artifact
oh wait...
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I really wonder how the fuck they made Doorman's doors work, has any other game pulled that off ever?
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>>562170520
don't do this to me, I can't tell when this is ironic anymore
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>>562168956
He has Michael's Jackson hit single, Smooth Criminal, blasting in his ears 24/7 through a magic enchantment.
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>>562170520
I love me some good bait
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>>562170520
yeah marvel rivals and rivals version is better because you can fall into them permanently
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>>562158590
that's not even close to good enough oracle bro you aint know shit about macro
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>>562170617
hey, yoshi, can we get a 40s themed lucio listening to 50s-90s music?
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>>562170520
Like its some kind of portal
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>>562170191
cursed relic is core on haze
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>>562171184
Yoshi said he's done adding black characters to the game they filled their DEI quota so no Lucio
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>>562169420
shiv because silver players are too stupid to remover my 5 knives I throw at them for free as they rush headfirst at me
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>>562171329
Every silver player is the same
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>>562170191
>sleep knifes u and does 50% of your hp before you can metal skin
>does spirit damage on set fixation stacks/has either tesla bullets or mercurial so you take spirit damage anyway and take the other 50%
>ult is 3x as long as metal skin anyway
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>>562171247
let it be a whitewashed lucio then, I don't really care
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>>562171184
You will get a Blues saxophonist who sold his soul to the devil at a crossroads and who summons an evil spirit when playing music.
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>>562169589
>graves
weird flex but ok
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>>562171412
Tales from shitlow
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>>562171812
Nga it's obviously the top right
The rest are loyalist
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>roster isnt even done
>only like a quater of th heroes

Cant wait for people to cry about the next DotA 2 ability to be added
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>>562171978
do those heroes include haze wraith and warden?
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>>562171812
you can just cancel them, who cares?
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>>562172249
He kinda looks like rem
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Holliday
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>>562171812
YOU CASUAL BITCH
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>Tried playing Vindicta for a few matches
>actually doing super well
I think I was playing the wrong heroes this whole time
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TURN THAT WEREWOLF INTO A RUG!
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>>562172478
it's literally just game giving you bad opponents
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>>562172592
Silence, shitlow
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>>562169925
Honestly once you get the hang of it it's really quite easy to parse the information.
It's kinda like when learning to drive, you're overwhelmed by all the sensory overload, after you get used to the gears and driving stick you can start to focus on the road and with some experience you learn to filter things to look out for and even start bing chilling. I'd argue on some points Deadlock is even easier than regular MOBAs, for example the laning phase in Deadlock at lower levels is way less complicated that LoL or DotA where managing waves is a major part of it and denies/last hits are harder.
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>>562172565
>INTO A RUG!
...MUNCHER!
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>>562169420
someone post that one meme of the smug doorman putting like 5 debuffs on silver
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How the fuck are you supposed to play silver, I love her but just keep throwing
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my name is niggerman the third
but my friends call me rem
*synth music plays*
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What's the silliest team you could make?
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>>562171762
Haze has a 52% winrate with a 42% pick rate in Eternus bro you gotta tell them about this amazing new metal skin strat
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>>562172715
Don't play her full gun you are trolling and her gun scaling is near support-tier
Generally your core items should look like this
>Fortitude (Helps you gank the map by staying full hp + movement speed)
>Stalker (Early game damage + helps proc your wolf form)
>Lifestrike
>Express Shots
>Toxic Bullets
>Duration
>Torment Pulse
>Silence Wave
>Stamina Mastery
The rest of your slots should be for counter items. You can include slowing/weighted shots but I will be controversial and say its bait. The stamina nerfs feel really bad since you live or die on stamina quite a bit.
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>>562172904
1. haze ults
2. you pop metal skin
3. you die after 4 seconds instead of immediately
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>>562172904
Hi goober
>>562173069
>torment pulse
Hi metro
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>>562165639
Maybe victor derangemeny syndrome was real.
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>>562173069
I see, guess she's just a really bad character huh lmao
No matter my dick commands who I play
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haze is easy to counter
metal skin + ethereal shift = 8 seconds immunity. haze unstoppable lasts for 5.5 seconds. after you come out, immediately curse her
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>>562173069
Lifestrike is not as good on her now because they nerfed its raw numbers, the scaling is okay but not enough for the late game
Tormented pulse is also not so good now in general
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>>562172669
did any of your opponents buy knockdown or phantom strike? no? okay then
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>>562173328
I would say she's playable right now but everyone with a brain should be able to tell toxic bullets will get nerfed and that will hurt her a lot. Its like the single item that makes her wolf form a less of a joke.
>>562173402
I respectfully disagree but will concede my playstyle involves a lot of meleeing. You probably want at least one melee item though since she has like two abilities that scale with melee so you will trigger it a lot.
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>>562173328
The march patches destroyed her. She's now only doing well below Emissary ranks
>No matter my dick commands who I play
Based. But if you're not a masochist you'll tired of being a punching bag eventually
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>>562173575
>toxic bullets will get nerfed
gun heros are already not meta its a spirit nuke slopfest right now
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>>562173412
Yes. I bought unstoppable. Stay silent, shitlow
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>>562172904
>>562173171
you need toy buy ethereal shift and cheat death too bro
then that might be enough time for her ult to end, maybe
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>le reddit
I know but i really like this hero concept
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1s8s7s8/valerie_character_concept/
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>>562173069
>express shot
bad
>lifestrike
bad

rest of suggestions pretty good, sub in decay and phantom strike and you are cooking
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>>562173575
>You probably want at least one melee item though since she has like two abilities that scale with melee so you will trigger it a lot.
Thing is Crushing fists, Lifestrike and Spirit snatch benefit from the heavy meleeing. Don't her abilities count as a light melee?
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>>562173583
I hope not, I really haven't found a character that is as fun to play(mechanic wise) except maybe Mina but she feels so weak too
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>>562172883
>doorman into mo
>lash into dynamo
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>playing ivy with haze on team
>dedicate my build to just buffing the haze
>win
WaoW. I even body blocked an apollo stun for her in a rejuv fight which felt good.
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>>562171565
Based character archetype
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>>562173808
>express shot
>bad
Can you explain? Every game its like 8-10% of my total damage, I don't see how that can be considered bad.
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>Get paired with a Billy that literally only walks forward, dies 16 times in 20 minutes, and disconnects
>I lose rank because of it
FUCK THIS GAME
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>>562173791
what the fuck is a fading stun? is this person retarded you're either stunned or not
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>>562173412
dey can buy knockdown but it won mattuh
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>>562174008
Probably the same thing as...sleep dagger? i dunno concept is cool though
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>>562173934
and decay would be more than that, express shot doesnt work in your ult form so i think it's poopy + fake poke damage. Youd do similar amount just shooting them normally with a cheaper attack speed item like kinetic dash anyway
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>>562173964
Be nice he got gutted to pro-bait, you buy a single 800 item and reduce him to a non-threat.
Its really unfair what they did to my poor goatboy.
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>>562173808
express shot is good (on Kinetic Carbine Paradox)
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Just came up with a great idea to balance Haze, just merge Return Fire into Metal Skin since nobody buys Return Fire anyway.
The meme counter of "just buy Metal Skin' now becomes real as she is forced to take massive damage or cancel the ult if enough people use it during it.
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>>562174224
but then she can just buy metal skin as well
checkmate
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>>562174224
>presses vampiric burst
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>>562174224
You want to fix Haze? Remove the +1 target buff on ult, that was the one thing keeping her from being an ultbot and they decided to just give it back to her.
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>>562174162
>character that doesn't deal damage even when building damage because on release he was an actual carry instead of just a worse Lash
I hate pro-fags so much. I loved early Billy and building movespeed to take every objective.
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>>562174162
serious question
can someone explain (or visualize) how one nails their own horns?
what kinda pose do you even take?
get into a chair, push your head against a worktable on the side and hammer away trying not to hit your head?
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I am a bit confused as to what to do as a new player. This is my first hero shooter and my second day playing. I tried street brawl and lost 11 games while winning 4. When I check the Steam-Profiles of the players after the game, the playtime of my teammates usually never exceeds 20h while on the enemy team there are players with 200h to 400h playtime. Is the standard mode a better experience?
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>>562174425
I won't lie, the meta of building enduring + fleetfoot on nearly every hero was gay but man do I miss prime billy. He was my first main and what got me into the game.
Insane how Abrams is never allowed to be bad but the goat is left out to dry.
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>>562174463
> Is the standard mode a better experience?
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>>562169420
Doorman
>>562169589
>graves
That silver was definitely retarded, the match does not favour graves
>>562172715
She's heavily geard to pvp, so you can't farm maxxx like seven victor or old graves, you'll always be close so close quarters and lifestrike help, your bootkick ability proccs melee items so that helps if you always get parried, just aim well and look for favorable fights, the way she's designed silver either goes 10/0 or 0/10 in my experience, you can't just farm or stay back you have to frontline, kind of like billy
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>>562174463
>I am a bit confused as to what to do as a new player.
To learn
>This is my first hero shooter
This is a MOBA
>Is the standard mode a better experience?
nyes
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>>562174463
Depends how lucky you are with matchmaking but if youre struggling in street brawl youre probably going to struggle even harder with the more moba elements in the main mode. I'd suggest just keep trying a bunch of characters to both learn how they work so you can fight them better and also to find something that clicks. The game has a bunch of different styles of play you should find one that fits you personally.

And playtime is irrelevant there are complete retards with 1000+ hours in this game that are considerably worse than people with 50
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>>562174463
The matchmaking is just fucked and climbing ranks is near impossible at certain lower ranks, especially if you have many hours in the game so thede 200-400 losers that raped you should actually be way higher rank but are unironically hardstuck because of how the ranking distribution works.
Also I am not sure if street brawl applies ranks or not when considering MM but I can only assume they copy pasted it from standard to street brawl.
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>>562174463
>Is the standard mode a better experience?
only if the game puts you in Initiate or Seeker, if you get any higher than that prepare to get raped.
Also this is not a hero shooter, this is a MOBA through and through with some third person shooter coating. Being an aimgod will give you an edge with only a very small part of the cast and this edge is negligible compared to good MOBA practices like economy, macro etc.
Unless you want to make Brool you main mode, I suggest you get into one bot game and then normal games asap.
By order of importance :
1) macro, knowledge (items, characters, map etc.)
2) fluid movement (not the high level stuff, but sliding, jump pads, useful wall jumps)
3) aiming
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>>562174674
>this is a silverposter
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At this point I am just going to learn Ivy and blame my team for everything
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>>562174571
>heroic aura
>fleetfoot
>enduring speed
>somehow have 300 dps and infinite ammo
I understood why it had to go but I really wish they didn't go the route of him being a playmaker instead of an actual character. Paradox had a similar problem after her initial nerfs.
Also I play Abrams and I miss his actual gun builds compared to spirit.
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>>562174790
another Silver player huh?
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when will they fix Mina's bald spot
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>>562174786
No, I'm just taking anecdotal evidence of people who are in alchemist posting about how they made a smurf and got it to phantom within just a few days.
I haven't made a smurf though because I'm a good boy (:
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>>562174674
>Start playing, don't know shit
>Placed to Ritualist
>300h hours later: know jungle/sinners/buff timers, good map awareness, basic movement tech, all characters and their abilities etc.
>Just now barely managed to climb to Emissary
It's brutal no matter how much better you get the your individual performance has almost no standing to your rank.
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bout to start playing celese, do you guys insta cast the daggers or hold cast?
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>>562174990
>>300h hours later: know jungle/sinners/buff timers, good map awareness, basic movement tech, all characters and their abilities etc.
that's literally seeker level
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>>562174963
>they made a smurf and got it to phantom within just a few days.
And then phantom players come here and complain about broken MM because they had 0/20/0 retards in their games. Because retarded MM saw new account smashing intiates at insane rates and decided to place Alchemist retard into rank he does not belong.
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>>562175216
>Seeker
>Good understanding of the map, timers and being aware what is happening and understand what to do accordingly
Geez this game is way more hardcore than I thought. Not my experience with the team mates I get.
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>>562175382
people below archon generally play better than those in oracle-phantom
that's just how broken the game is
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smurfing is genuinely one of the cringiest things you can do, just fucking play your rank
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>>562175347
Okay.
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>>562175459
I cant because valve has me stuck in a game that doesnt exist giving me a permanent "reconnect or abandon" problem and I am not playing low priority I will just play on my alt
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rape Mina
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>>562175321
why are valve games like this
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>>562175459
but I like carrying hot e-girls who glaze me in that mmr
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>>562175216
>seekers
>knowing anything
Anon, people don't even claim buffs or do mid until like, low Alch.
High Alch - low Rit occasionally remember to farm Sinners on time.
Only when you get to high Rit - low Emissary people start shmoovin a little and do macro shit.
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>>562175691
then it all resets once you get into archon/oracle and everyone goes back to doing nothing
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>>562171219
So that it, huh? We some kind of portal, too?
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>>562175836
kek
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>>562175831
I think this is unironically because for some reason new accounts are dumped into those tiers at first.
I had players in my games with like 5-10 game history who played at my mid-Rit level of skill but their first games were in Archon/Oracle.
Their steam accounts didn't look like smurfs either - 5+ years, bought games, reviews, steam comments all that shit.
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They should make it so Bebop Ivy and Dynamo can't be slept
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LASER'S RUNNING COCK
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>>562176124
>new accounts dumped into archoracle
honestly i have no idea where my account sits in relation to that and i often wonder
>start playing sometime 2024, i think before shiv was added
>play only a handful of human games because i already was playing HotS at the time and was intimidated by learning another moba, esp. one with a full item system, still liked the characters enough to play bot games and enjoy them
>fast forward to sometime after the first six heroes update
>get back into the game, start making an actual effort to learn it
>mid-initiate, even as i climb around seeker-arcanist the lobbies all say initiate though for some reason
>hear ranks are bugged, hear rank changes will happen
>as i play more and as OGNB approaches steadily climb with a positive WR up to around ritualist, maybe emissary
>fast forward to now
>oracle V
no idea if i'm actually in the intended rank or not
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>>562176124
the worst part is they DON'T DERANK
matchmaking somehow makes them hang around the same kind of retarded 50/50 so they never get filtered out
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There's a bug where Mystic Reverb doesn't work on Silver's 1 in werewolf form. I was playing brool, that's how I found out.
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>try spellslinger on Ivy because wander's build said it's optimal
>her stoneform doesn't trigger it
>her ult doesn't trigger it
what the fuck
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What character should I learn to have an easy time winning? Mina scales infinitely?
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>>562176619
you have to buy mystic reverb while in werewolf form which is impossible in brawl
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Heroes for diddybluds?
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>>562176773
seven, abrams, wraith
Mina falls off mid-game
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>>562156205
like AP order or what do u mean
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>>562175831
I also saw this post recently confirming my theory that game throws new accounts into high ranks.
Also my friend who started after valve did some "matchmaking fixes" still sits in like low Archon if I remember correctly.
Meanwhile I started playing right after they released Rem and had to claw my way out of initiate to where I am now.

>>562176550
You have to go on a completely hellish lose streak to meaningfully derank, yeah.
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>>562176821
Dang noone attractive
Alright thanks for the input
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>>562176714
this is me in the hideout, shooting abrams once to enter combat, hitting stoneform then fliying immediately
they absolutely trigger it
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>>562175574
t. Silver
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>>562176773
paige is easy and does a little bit of everything
>>562176871
she also has huge bazonkas
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>>562176871
who are the attractive characters in the roster to you
theoretically mina falls off lategame but you can also theoretically snowball with her to where that fall off doesn't even matter
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>>562174463
This is a "MOBA shooter" rather than a hero shooter.

It's easier to think of this game's main mode as being about economic management first and fighting other players second.
Money = Power
Objective number one is therefore to maximize your own money through efficient farming and minimize the enemies money through denials and taking of farm. Killing enemies gives you money and disrupts their farming.
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>>562176619
her wolf form 1 does melee damage, melee damage skills don't activate reverb
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>>562176862
emissary is not a high rank
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>You have to go on a completely hellish lose streak to meaningfully derank, yeah.
You could also not play for a month and you're rank starts decaying
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>>562176969
You have my attention
>>562177009
Mina, Silver, Apollo, Vyper, Venator, Graves, Paige, Ivy
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>>562176969
>paige is easy and does a little bit of everything
>load in
>page is in the game
>buys trophy and curse first items
>never farms so always 6k behind on souls
>fills up 4 more slots with cheap green shit and ignores shop until 40 minutes
>suddenly remembers he has to buy shit when our base is getting steamrolled
fuck this character
and fuck "boohoo I'm a full support I don't need to farm bweeeeh" niggers that play her
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>>562169949
Yoshi does not balance the game around Seeker sadly
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>>562177154
I rush Divine Barrier on Paige but after that is mostly purple items and ability range... I like using her spells
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>>562177154
and yet there was probably a player with less impact than her on the team
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>>562177154
>>never farms so always 6k behind on souls
I have passive soul gain from trophy collector I don't need to farm :)
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>>562174137
kek, just sub one of your best damage dealers that enables a near insta wolf for decay in a meta where dispel magic is basically mandatory. If you dont want to PVP dont play a pvp charcter
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>>562165560
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>>562177489
What would be considered pve characters?
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>>562177110
graves has the most mechanically simple kit, there's barely any aim involved. her gun is a hugely forgiving succ (moira overwatch or scarlet witch rivals if you've played those) and her abilities are summons or area control spells that don't ask for precision
venator is fairly straightforward and as a result you can focus more on learning the ins and outs of general strategy (pushing waves, farming, determining when you can and can't take a fight, general game sense stuff) but you need to aim his abilities
mina is in a similar boat to venator but she is extremely squishy so until you get a grasp on A) what you can get away with and B) how to abuse the ever living shit of your movement ability you will be punished HARD for making mistakes, once she clicks though she isn't super difficult
the rest i don't really know well enough to confidently give info on
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>>562177661
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>>562177786
Drifter isn't PVE though. He needs to stack.
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>>562177504
Wh-what happens if you decline?
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>>562177852
It was the only image of Rem I have saved
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>>562177742
I see I see, thanks for the input! Think I will be giving Graves a shot now that she is not permanently picked
I am bad at aiming
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>>562177860
he tried to be nice...
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Is it just me or do some characters actually aim off to the side so you can see the gun better?
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I'm new to Neon Prime, which character should I play if I'm a total noob?
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>Let's see 'em dodge this!
>This ends, NOW!
>Sending tornado!
>I love hunting in the city!
>Pulse grenade's out.
>They can't run forever.
>Their blood calls to me.
>Gets easier every time.
>It's you or me!
>I keep forgetting how much this stings!
>Hmm... Presto!
>Let's contribute to the chaos!
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Testing the April fool's posting system, don't mind me
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>>562165802
Rather than wish the Patron tell her who/where he is, why doesn't just wish the Patron rape them to death?
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>>562177661
Anyone who can fuck off and go on a farm maxxing grindset, seven graves paige rem etc etc, none of these heroes look for fights especially early, silver's gun and abilities are great for brusting someone but they're dogshit for farming and clearing waves
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>>562178125
for me, it's muscleguy
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>>562178151
SENDING BEETLE!
I TAKE YOUR LIFE!
FOR THE DJINN!!
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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>>562178125
razer/tempest
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>>562178104
Abrams does that.
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they should rework raven
>ks-23 gun
>kit centered around "keeping his team healthy and immune to capitalist propaganda"
>can apply debuff reduction buffs and cc immunity to allies
>greatly slows enemy active item projectiles and effects in vicinity
>mcginnis's abilitites don't work around him because her stuff is using souls of the proletariat
>reverse pocket ult - anyone attacking friendly heroes during the duration gets "infected" and starts losing health
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>>562178174
You can't post this....
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>>562178125
Dynamo
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>>562178308
>I'LL TAKE YOUR WIFE
>>562178104
I think a lot of them do this. Sinclair and Celeste seem like they do.
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THE KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN OBTAINED
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your doorman for today
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>>562178735
I mean he did live up to his name
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>>562178735
>Die hard
>Dies 16 times
Kek
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>>562178125
I am so glad they scrapped Neon Prime, this shit looks like ass
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Why is valve so hesitant to add mechanics from their other games?

Give me a L4D hunter pounce flying around the city and I’ll NUT
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>>562179129
Drifter has the animation for it when he jumps off the wall
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>>562179129
They should honestly just change Drifter's 1 to be a straight up pounce that gives him a barrier. Rend is useless anyway.
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PvE mode when? Im a casual baby and ranked queue gives me anxiety
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>>562178104
yes I hate it
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Why do rem players always talk like toddlers in every games.
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>>562179430
we wike to roleplay ourw characters xD
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>>562179290
>ranked queue gives me anxiety
rank is not indicative of your skill
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Ok I love Graves
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>>562179430
I kinda get it, everytime I play billy I get the intense urge to flame my team-mates.
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is it okay to report someone for buying trophy?
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>>562179706
you will get report banned but yeah
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>>562178549
Why not anon?
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>>562179614
I fucking wish I could play Graves at least once, I have her on the roster but the game gives me MK/Paige/Rem/Warden instead
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>This update CHANGES EVERYTHING
Yep, that's another sloptube channel blocked.
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>>562179924
What are some actually good deadlock channels? I'm new and most I find are legit slop...
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>vindicta doing 0 damage
>except she's activating my witchmail
all she had to do was stop
that poor billy
my movement is bad yes i barely play this game anymore
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>>562180052
Eido if he posts guides. Most of his videos are compilations nowadays.
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>Talon refuses to cancel Refresher Black Hole with owl.
WHERE THE FUCK DO I GET THESE PEOPLE??
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>>562178104
Abrams does that and I keep missing shots because I'm a retarded idiot fucking mongoloid subhuman piece of white trash that aims with the model when I enter a flow state instead of looking at my crosshair.
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>>562180052
Mast is what got me into deadlock
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>>562179706
What’s wrong with trophy?
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>>562180218
Literally throwing you subhuman fuck
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>>562179924
Dead air is pretty good that's probably just a patch breakdown
>>562180052
Don't know why but this game has mostly slop content and fotm chaser videos
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>>562180065
*waits*
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>>562180052
the only deadlock channel I watched hasn't uploaded in 9 months and his last deadlock video was over a year ago.
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>>562180369
Throwing what?
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>>562180384
>no arcane surge
how can you play spirit abrams like this... It's so fucking good.
I would also personally skip mystic shot and spirit lifesteal for something else.
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>>562180084
>>562180204
>>562180374
>>562180395
Thanks bros!
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>>562180498
i'm bad and dislike arcane surge 'cause i'm just a lowly phantom 1 pleb and can never remember to activate it before using an ability. Plus this is my one abrams game in like 50. I know I should be using it, but I just donut.
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>>562180538
what am I looking at
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>pre nerf victor
>dynamo
>haze
all very strong, all have one thing in common... can you guess what it is?
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>>562180621
Abrams
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>>562180628
Big dick
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>>562180538
DLSS5 Abrams
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R8 my roster
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>>562180184
nah it's normal to aim where the gun is pointing and REAL shooter games like tarkov have pointfiring be extremely viable if not better than aiming down sights

deadlock tries way too hard to be a shooter game but the devs have done the worst job making shooting feel fun and impactful it's so fortnite feely it's just bad

they need to fix how the guns look with animations, how they aim, how the recoil is, how they sound

it's ALL SO BAD and it's clear they did not hire anyone who actually likes shooter games
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>>562180538
>>562180673
>bimbo'ed Abrams
Mental illness desu
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>>562180621
Abrmams
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>>562180603
Mina deserves rape
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>>562180538
Decent female abrams edit, better than some absurd coomer shit. Woman Abrams would probably look a lot like one of those old lunch ladies. Not necessarily ugly but not really a model, just plain.
>>562180612
Fair enough, also armour is better than spirit lifesteal since siphon already has 100% lifesteal lategame so you're better off getting damage + unstop so you can't be cursed during siphon duration.
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Let's see what the Talmud can do.
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>>562179129
>Smoker's tongue
>Rocket Jump
>The gravity gun
>Tau cannon in general
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>>562180806
>its abraMAM
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>>562180612
>can't remember to charge
>can't remember his counterspell
Kids these days and their ipads or some shit
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>>562180718
>I forgot Saxton Hale
FUCK DELET THIS
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>Chargin in!
>enemy just double jumps
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>>562180947
i'm 63 years old man give me a break
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>>562180890
>Avraham
Top tier. Has anyone made an
>Ibrahim
Or
>Mohammed and Kareem
Edit yet?
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>>562181076
Prove it
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>>562181076
Understandable sir, have a good day.
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>>562181076
grey talon...
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>>562181354
get that ugly disabled freak away from me, i dont wanna look at his fucked up face
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>>562181406
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>>562181108
I have seen both but older models, also none of them have been actual mods just funny edits.
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>>562181354
>>562181510
my bf
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>>562181612
jerking off to mo and krill is morally wrong, just like sam and max or bert and ernie (even if they're gay and have steamy gay sex)
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>>562181641
horrifying
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>>562181354
>Mogarita
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>>562180052
Chazm and Midlock are very enjoyable Mast too but the other anon said that
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>>562168956
He groov'n
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>>562181354
Do you guys think they are going to add a rat hero? Rats in New York is pretty iconic.
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>>562181724
>just like sam and max
if max was in deadlock you would jerk off to him
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>>562181896
I'm fine with it as long as it's not that Reddit ass rat king shit
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>>562165427
>Mina
You mean Apollo
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>>562181931
He's not in deadlock and I jerk off to him
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>>562181931
no i wouldn't
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>>562182043
yes, you would
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>>562175459
I keep getting put in lobbies way below my mmr since every nigger stacks now so I might as well smurf.
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>>562182139
delusional smurfnigger
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I sometimes can't tell if people are joking or some fags/women find ugly characters like Mo genuinely hot
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>>562181108
>>Mohammed and Kareem
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>>562182174
>ugly characters like Mo
mo's model is unfinished, he's going to be very pretty just like ivy's rework
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>>562182174
very specific subset of furfag
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>>562182298
he is literally a mole
not much room for improvement
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>>562182174
Moseph is pure sex, though
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>>562182162
I don't even smurf, I might as well though.
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>>562181896
so are jews but I doubt they add one of those
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>>562182667
Sis, your Darcy Graves?
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>>562182667
Graves is a jew
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>>562173069
>>562172715
Embrace Spirit silver 553031
Stop trying to build gun on the pup, it has fuck all scaling.
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>>562181354
>>562181861
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>>562182706
>>562182824
if it doesnt have the tiny hat or money or epstein iconography it's not a real jewish hero
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>>562182690
70% mustache
30% contempt
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everyone is so fucking mean to Rem
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>>562182968
Rem is Jewish that's why
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>>562182968
deserved
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>>562182667
Darcy? Rem?
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>>562182921
She literally summons goyims to fight for her
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>>562159864
How does a game go on for 70 minutes? Also imagine being the losing side
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>>562179129
Your Doorman portals?
Your Abrams L4D2 Charger?
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>>562183051
usually when one team is just really really fucking stupid but also way better, like they just randomly get caught out trying to end the game or buy the wrong items and can never use rejuvenator properly while the enemy is good at defending their base with shit like dynamo or lash or something that punishes the retards on the winning team even more for trying to end
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>>562182921
Krill is literally a Jewish magi and Mo is his golem
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>>562183041
CEO skin for Graves where the zombies are salarymen in suits.
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>>562162825
shoulda posted gay shit
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>>562182690
what mod is that, looks cool
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>>562183051
>How does a game go on for 70 minutes?
If no one runs urn, it happens a lot. Deadlock happens a lot when I was climbing in piss low.
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>>562180204
That guy’s content is genuine slop.
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>>562183828
what makes it slop, before I click on a video
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>>562152795
so can we all just admit that victor's kit is straight up unbalanceable?
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So when exactly are you supposed to do the double sinners? feels like I can't do them right away without missing a wave or two so I just ignore them during laning phase unless there's a Rem.
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The only indication that graves is a jew is her lawyer parents. Nose is aquiline instead of hooked.
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>>562183116
Valve should add environmental Hazards in the game imagine Holliday throwing herself and her lasso'd target off a cliff or something
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>>562184149
It's perfectly balanceable they just need to stop being retarded. Make him a brick wall that provides utility instead of a drain brooler and occasional nooker.
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shouldn't big guys like abrams and mo have lower gravity?
I mean lanky girls like ivy and pony get to float so fat fucks should have higher speeds sliding
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>>562184249
just push the wave bro
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>>562184138
It's just stream VODs repurposed for youtube. Literal definition of factory produced slop trying to make a career out of it.
At least Midlock tries whacky shit from time to time, posts losses and plays the entire roster.
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>>562184359
Didn't feel the need to write it in my post but obviously I'm pushing the wave before doing sinners, you still end up missing at least 1 full wave in the time it takes to do doubles.
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>>562180902
the fact that they still haven't added a gravity gun that can be used with boxes, sinners and troopers is insane to me
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>>562184138
Hes just obnoxious and churns out low effort videos. He’ll title something “BOMBIN’ WITH LADY GYATT!!!” And it’s the most uneventful game ever where’s just farming while his team stomp so bad the enemy complain about matchmaking. Clearly didn’t even bother recording a better game
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https://youtu.be/Ya6IvA7WUmg

Oh no no Ivyfags, is this really what you look like?
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>>562152795
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>>562180374
it's because the content creators for this community are mainly people trying to get in on the ground floor of this not because they actually love it but because it's valve's "next big thing" much the same way it happened with Shartifact, this is specially clear in the competitive "scene". the only difference is that this is an actual game rather than a fuckass card game with dota lore.

remove valve from the equation and i guarantee you most of these roaches would vanish overnight
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>>562184548
you need to clear 2 waves for the lane to push
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Graves is made for...?
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>>562184930
gangrape NTR
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>>562182690
>some jackass in the community can make this model alone while living on his mom's basement in a month or less
>valve has gone 2 full years having this concept for warden finalized but not even attempting to implement it in any way

how
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>>562184312
How'd you go about doing that? Because if you make Aura of Suffering give debuffs instead of doing damage i can guarantee you people would hate victor even more
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Superior Duration is actually fucking nuts on Drifter.
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>>562185394
Now pair it with arcane surge, 17 second Drifter ult
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>>562185394
drifters ult is the most annoying ability in the game by far.
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>>562184149
It is and always has been. I have been saying this since release. It's an interesting concept but his current ult is way too powerful. You have to nerf the test of his kit into being unfun to make it balanced.
>>562184289
This is actually a genius idea. The Coaltown map had the same death pits and they add so much fun to the team fights. I have fallen into them as Holliday and it cracked me up.
Playing Coaltown is so fun I genuinely hope we get a TF sequel with deadlock movement. It would be so good.
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>>562185585
>>562185552
>>562185394
*presses F*
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how lenient is the character specific adjustment in matchmaking? if I pick a character for the first time will the game take it into consideration when placing me into a game? also what the fuck are these captchas
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>>562180052
Skeleton Honey is a funny and the way he edits his videos is hilarious plus he draws his thumbnails and I think they're neat
If you want the most professional player in the world then look elsewhere, but I like him
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>>562185632
MM algo is completely cooked. Never Q a new or unplayed character on your main account you will have a bad time.
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>>562180052
Co3fal1 is the one channel i like watching vids of. no bullshit, no unfunny memes, no ytp tier skits (looking at you bodacious), just raw gameplay cut into the best bits
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>>562185632
>if I pick a character for the first time will the game take it into consideration when placing me into a game?
Yeah it puts you in a lower rank lobby
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nothing cool on april fools? what a soulless shit game
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>>562185632
blud's really asking about how good the matchmaking is when we know that shit was chatgpt generated lmfaoooooooo
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>>562185632
I played Abrams for the first time ever and it tossed my into an Ascendant 3 lobby
My usual MMR is indicated as Ascendant 1
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>>562185149
Too busy making new characters and models. Every new character has had maybe 3 or 4 seperate placeholder models.
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Sex with Abrams
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>>562160725
the first two urns if they do it as soon as they spawn aren't that worth it tho, less souls than a walker on top of the slot unlocked, they fight for drake because it's a permanent buff to the team, baron instapushes any wave and gives you fast recall, mid boss yeah... if you fight them the first one usually doesn't end the game either in lower ranks, so many matches I need more slots and my bum ass team didn't take even a guardian yet
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>>562186220
considering those models don't need special animations and are at BEST vyper tier i really don't see how this would stop them
it's not like they're le small indie team they're a multibillion company
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>>562186220
Don't forget new heroes have placeholder animations (Seven using Silver/Drifter anims as a example)
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>>562185632
>>562186359
>haven't gotten a funny captcha yet
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>>562160457
>allowing the team with advantage get an even bigger advantage if they feel like it.
I've seen teams who are behind in souls in Night Shift steal the urn and intentionally delay it as much as possible. Like, they'd grab the urn, put it near their base, drop it, repeat. So, that's something.
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>>562186418
Anon, Warden *is* vyper tier.
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>>562186569
I got "Who is this character" and the answer was literally me
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>>562186660
Not really. Warden has unique animations and if not for his model not fitting his character at all people would think he's more like drifter/haze/shiv tier. Vyper on the other hand is just a very hastly rehash of Ivy's body with the head of the neon prime lizard slapped on top and also still using Ivy's animations.
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>>562184451
Polish phenotype
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>>562184451
Who is uprooted? Who is leaving?
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If Vyper is a naga what other monstergirls can we put in deadlock?
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>>562186847
Warden is a mishmash of Lash's old model and kelvin / viscous animations. Him and Vyper have just as many unique animations as eachother.
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>>562184149
Honestly feels bad how Geist has been left out of these fanarts.
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WAKE ME UP
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>>562187264
>one win
this is nothing.
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>>562187247
Geist is also way hotter than either of them so don't feel too bad that she doesn't have to associate with trash like them.
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>>562187232
Warden uses Lash's old model as a base but it still changes basically everything about him besides that, even the moustache isn't the same. Vyper on the other hand is LITERALLY using Ivy's old model's gun and clothes. Don't be disingenuos

Viscous came in later than Warden. The real question is if the original source for their animations was Kelvin or Warden. If it was Warden then that inmediately puts him above Vyper.
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>>562187329
only because of quitters
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>>562186847
>>562187232
Also I forgot to mention Vyper isn't even Ivy, she's reskinned Kali and Ivy took Kali's animations and proportions first.
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>>562187264
>that roster
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>>562187264
Lmao, you're a literal vegetable with those picks.
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>>562187591
>vyper is a rehash of a rehash
jesus man not really helping your point here are you
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>>562153296
>If you lose all three lanes and maintain that losing lead into midgame with two losing team fights, you lose.
I mean... yeah? This was the case back then too, even more so because rejuv was even more busted back then.
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>>562187728
Why are you trying to make a competition out of me telling you shit is work in progress? I also find Warden cool but I'm not going to shit my diapers because a new character came out instead of an old character getting new makeup.
Besides the point still stands that Vyper and Warden are both just model rehashes with just as many unique animations as eachother.
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I spent 30 hours in Deadlock and i'm tired of seeing every single match carried by Graves. This stupidly overpowered character can solokill almost everyone in the game with her skulls and autoaim gun. And if she pushing your walker with a tombstone, you need at least two or three people to defend it, which is INSANE - to summon half of your team to deal with a single character.
it would be much appreciated if someone could give me advice how to deal with this whore, because i'm out of ideas
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>>562188135
I thought she just got nerfed
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>>562188135
how are you even having trouble with giganerfed graves, just jump her wall and shoot her twice and she dies
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>>562180412
Spending 3.2k on an item that does nothing until you get a bunch of kills.
Until you get those kills you are fighting with a 3.2k deficit. So against equally skilled opponents you are fucked
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>>562188135
Melee the skulls and disarming hex. Curse if necessary.
>tombstone
The zombies should have a range honestly. So they don't push from their base to the end of the lane.
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>>562188083
i'm not? you're the one that brought up warden's vyper tier when he isn't. personally i'd rather they finished vyper's model first but i have no idea what they actually want to do with her since we do not have wip concept art for her like we do for warden.
that's the main issue here. it has taken the multibillion company two years to (not) start working on a concept they have more or less finalized that long ago, something a guy can cobble up together on his own in a month at most. this shit doesn't seem bad to you? they're the ones getting paid 6 digit numbers and paid vacations to hawaii for it
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>>562188135
>whining this much about graves
>after her winrate dropped back to 50%
Why is this a problem and not Haze, or Seven or Infernus? At pisslow Warden does really well as well.

She can't actually solokill most people if you do any of:
>Don't let her farm for free all game and become 30k ahead of you while failing to achieve anything fighting 5v6 over and over again in mid.
>Buy disarming hex
>Buy slowing hex even
>Walk away from her
She has no escapes, no iframe abilities, is pretty slow normally. Relies entirely on her SUCC to do anything, if she can't stack up her essence theft and get a lot of siphon and lifesteal going she falls over and dies.

>If she's pushing you need 2 or 3 people
You literally just need one person to shoot the zombies, her gun bugs out and doesn't let her attack the walker from outside the stomp area half the time.
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>>562187630
I wish you'd kys for being tasteless
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>>562182690
>"My PhotoSpirit? You speakin' Ixian son?"
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>>562186359
Yeah a lot of times urns feel like fight bait and people throw by trying to contest when they can't win the fight.
It's like the moment the urn gets picked up both teams get a retard debuff that ruins their macro skills.
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>>562182690
Link to mod, I couldn't find it.
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why do I get assists by simply walking near a fight?
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>>562188837
The game would rather give you an assist when you didn't help, than not give you an assist when you did.
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the game still hasn't recovered from the march 6th patch
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>>562188837
To make KINO collector not actual trash but just situationally trash
also by being in the peripheral vision of an enemy maybe you're distracting them or something
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>>562188939
I hope they never fix it. It makes Drifter OP.
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>>562188135
go ahead and pull the trigger
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>>562189148
I put "real human bean" and it didn't validate, wtf. Am I supposed to remember this dude's name?
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>>562189148
It makes trophy collector a usable item.
It's unlikely to get 'fixed' because it's likely working as intended and not broken at all.
Someone being nearby could have assisted in a kill with no direct damage contribution.
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>>562189450
ryan gosling doesn't work either. i think they want you to answer driver
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>>562189518
I don't think they can be answered correctly because I got Griffith, put Griffith exactly, and it didn't work
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>>562188739
>>562183608
its not out yet
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>>562189636
Yeah I got fucked by Griffith as well. The captcha might be fucked and that's the joke.
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>>562190032
I got through griffith fine
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>pick Geist for the first time
>throw bombs and knives all game
>end 1-0-15
I don't think I'm doing this right aside from the not dying part with her ult.
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Calico and Wraith are turning me racist.
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>I AM REBORN
>sinclaire ult
>I AM REBORN
>kill her
I've done better plays with sinclaire but that's my favourite so far. Bitch can have her stupid fuckin 100 HP back, I don't want it.
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i lost 17 out of my last 18 matches
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>>562190938
The common factor is you.
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>>562187630
it looked bad
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is Eternus = Silver?
What does that make every other rank?
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>>562191913
The hardest games are at initiate.
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>>562191913
Everything below oracle = new player
Oracle = bad not new player
Phantom = less bad player
ascendant = okay player
Eternus = decent player (assuming they weren't boosted or doing gay duoq shit.)
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>>562191386
The mostest commonest factor is the deadlock matchmaking system
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>some calico bitch parries really regularly, and really well but is super easy to feint out
>check the replay
>parries the exact frame or so after my melee starts every single time
>even on light melees every time I bounce a Holliday barrel into them

I feel like this cheat is just actively detrimental at this point.
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I want to play victor so fucking bad but it really is so miserable I need to stop complaining and just take him out of my roster
Every single match I went against him, it was a free win. He is so easy to attack in lane and deals negative damage. What the fuck he's gonna do when you burst him down? Throw an useless pain battery and tickle with his gun?
>But he heals the damage!
I buy healbane #2 item and he can't do anything. Naturally the lane is always won and pushed so we steal their jungle and sinners, Victor can't do anything and is thrown out of the game. The saving grace before the nerfs was that he could scale, now he is dogshit late game as well
Ironically his cleanse would be perfect in this turbo aids meta. Now he is an useless piece of shit all stages of the game, especially if the enemy got an Infernus.
>Buy dispell magic lol
Play one Victor game with that item and let me know how it goes
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>>562192308
Always remember, Valve allows cheaters
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>haha funni point and click unreactable ult that immediately fucks you XD
Nice game, dino faggot.
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>>562190938
Thank you for your service MM terrorist.
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>>562192279
I won my last 17 out of 18 matches so
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>>562192478
Wow can we duo :3
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>>562192409
Almost every ult is counterspellable.
A lot of characters have iframe moves that can dodge them.
Unstoppable?
Not letting the character with their ult up walk into you?
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Alright, which Valve employee is this Redditor a self insert of?
>LMAO I CAN JUST TELEPORT AWAY FROM YOU EVERY 5 SECONDS
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>>562190938
GIWTWM
I am forced to drop the game for more than a month waiting for decay because the game won't let me rank down. Imagine, forced to finish my backlog and Gintama!
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THEY CAN'T SHOOT AN ATOM
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>>562185723
The thumbnails alone make me not want to watch any of the videos, especially since they clearly are a Celeste player.
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bunnydox
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>>562193134
He started out making videos as Lash, then Calico and now Celeste who he likes for the movement aspect
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I should start uploading videos of my pisslow games for single digit views.
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>Zerggy has quit deadlock due to the matchmaking
>Metro will follow him soon
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>562193394
My friend's been doing this on TikTok and he's gotten a few thousand views per video even though there's literally nothing impressive about his performance and people clown on him in the comments
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>>562193281
Celeste is overpowered as fuck and for people who are bad at the game though. Actual training wheels character.
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>>562193472
>Z-list ecelebs leaving
Deadlock is healing...
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>>562193472
Context? I don't know any of ecelebs
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>>562193472
The matchmaking IS horrendous though.
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>>562193472
>matchmaking stops giving them free win games
>quit
lmao
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>>562193680
The lack of draft is the biggest issue with matchmaking right now. Usually one team ends up with a way better comp and synergy than the other.
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>>562193624
check the date
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>>562193834
Crazy how this wasn't a problem before the march update but they obviously had to fuck it all up by buffing everyone way too much
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>>562193965
No it was still a huge problem before then what the actual fuck are you talking about.
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>>562193834
This is mostly a problem due to what >>562193965 said, as well as certain ultra-cancer characters like Wraith, Celeste, and Mirage that basically require you to pick Mo and Krill to guarantee kills on them.
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>>562194002
It really wasn't, people will always complain about MM in every video game ever but the game didn't have completely cancer chars that will kill your fun the instant you see them while starting the match
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Lack of draft has literally always been a problem. You can get no S tier characters in your match and still be fucked because your team is C and D tiers with 0 synergy with eachother and bad scaling while the enemy team is the A and B tier wombo combo. And winning any team fight is purely up to the enemy team falling asleep, or getting overconfident and running in to a 3v6 4 times in a row.
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>>562193472
>Zerggy
who
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Aren't abrams's voicelines kinda eh?
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To anon who posted spirit Silver build yesterday.
It's a good build, right now it works slightly better than her gun builds. The problem is, Silver is still a dogshit hero. The gains are marginal, and a lot of my success came from people having a habit to buy antigun for Silver. Still a good build, would've shredded back in February.
Buff Silver.
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>>562194491
LETS SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO
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>>562193264
my time wife
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>>562194491
SEÑOR ABRAMS THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE
AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU AT THE RITUAL
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draft will kill the game
shit comps happen all the time in dota/lol
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>>562194491
That's why I like them. It has wrestler cheese.
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DOTA 2 has more of a hero winrate spread than deadlock does.
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>>562153841
league might have more flashy/less archaic skill design but the overall gameplay has been streamlined to the point where riot had to back down from that approach and re-implement some dota-style chaos (stuff like mid-map match evolutions and especially lane pick fluidity) to make it more fun again.

until they rework the shop and base the gameplay on interesting and powerful actives, no amount of visual effects and skins will make 70 iterations of dash-with-small-aoe attacks interesting
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>>562194706
Shit comps happen literally every match even in a 6 stack right now.
How the fuck will draft make that worse?
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>i'm among the top 20 ivy players in my region according to the leaderboards
grim (for my region)
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>>562194946
OCE?
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Every since they adjusted Silver's 2 to have the ability to ascend without jumping it feels really awkward to hit at close range
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>>562195025
SA
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>>562195130
I'm so fucking sorry.
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>>562194706
You know what will kill the game? The mechanics are too fucking obtuse.
t. download it on Sunday
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>change up my seven build to something else besides what I've been running since 2024 (Don't play him mutch anymore)
>Absolutely scale into a monster even faster
Wait a minute this guy *is* op now that I'm not a noob. Still bad vs good players but he's a huge pubstomper
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>>562195328
it's worse than you think
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Mordhau will blow this game out of the water
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>>562195470
The top Seven player in the world currently builds literally 0 orange items, abd stacks every on-hit he can. He has a 79% win rate in eternus 6.
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>ARAM mode
>Looks inside
>No random characters
>No random items
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>Thread is almost 12 hours old
Dead thread, dead game
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>>562195453
It will probably not get better but actually this.
Currently a lot of mechanics are unintuitive and function esoterically. Jumping off zipline vs crouching off. Almost all of the tranny movement.
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>>562193472
check your calendar
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>>562178104
ginnis does at at most angles, actually
especially up close
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>>562195816
people are getting filtered by the captcha
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>>562181354
>>562181510
>>562181861
god i wish that were me
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playing abrams and billy makes me want to go outside and punch people and get punched, but i can't for obvious reasons and working out is just gay, i wanna fight to the death and move my body with no consequences
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>>562195806
>stacks every on hit that he can
No toxic bullets though?
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>>562196161
become a boxer
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>>562195843
Dotard?
Anyone who's played TF2 or CS before gets used to the movement pretty quick?
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>>562196293
>boxer
Fuck that
>>562196161
Learn wrestling and participate in some local moron shows or become an actual wrestler. You'd need to work out though still.
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Darcy Graves smell
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>>562196239
Spirit on-hits.
>suppressor
>headband
>mystic slow
>spirit burn
>lightning scroll
>escalating
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canon hidden king team
>lash
>ivy
>venator
>vyper
>victor
>seven
canon archmother team
>geist
>haze
>kelvin
>abrams
>dynamo
>bebop
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>>562196527
You just put abrams in archmother becaude she's blue.
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>>562196512
headband lmao
i get you meant healbane though
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>>562196512
>>562196664
There should be an item called headband though. I want more silly stuff like alchemical fire.
Also they should just make alchemical fire a spirit item already, nopony buys it because of muh investment.
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>>562196527
i see victor as more archmother desu
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>>562196361
A little DOTA but mostly coming from CS. Most CS players aren't actually sitting on surf servers, and the movement works fairly differently.

Regardless, your drag profile changing entirely based on the key you use to escape the line is crazy.
Being able to parry Viscous punches, but no other melee ability, is unintuitive.
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>>562196527
>implying archmother wouldnt employ the unholy one-woman-Lockheed Martin demoness herself

>>562196660
abrams seems like a guy who would want to be on archmother's side but would end up having to work for the hidden king
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>>562196660
you got me but it's also because he's a little bit fancy and works with geist (also fancy)
>>562196868
he's a decrepit deformed undead hobo freak monster that's as hidden king coded as it gets besides billy
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>>562196361
Air strafing and bhopping is like a quarter of the movement shit in this game, it's the rest that's bug abuse that will get removed.
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>>562196161
don't become a wrestler unless you are willing to break your spine
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>>562197148
A quarter might even be generous, regular behopping is generally not worthwhile. Airstrafing is but most general schmoovement it's not coming up that heavily.
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How do you make Jars work on Graves?
They feel a bit useless since the enemy team knows just to melee the skulls to get rid of them
I just get 1 point into it with heal booster so I can get some decent healing from the death orbs
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>change health scaling
>suddenly structures and troopers deal 0 damage
>suddenly everyone buts toxic bullets
>suddenly characters that dealt no damage deal even less
all because they refused to buff back resist items
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>>562197093
Him being a Frankenstein's monster doesn't impact his allegiances tho
Billy fits HK because of his personality and being a retard
Victor is looking for answers to find out who made him and whom his parts belong to. HK or AM doesn't matter, he just wants his answers
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>bought rebuttal?
>reported
>bought counterspell?
>reported
>pressed the parry key?
>reported
That simple
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>>562197595
Skulls help stack escalating, and enemies taking time to melee or shoot skulls is time they're not attacking you or one of your teammates.
Skulls work a bit better when thrown at yourself and directed with left click.
Don't just sit back and try to skull someone to death while doing nothing.
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>>562196892
Okay the way momentum is kept getting off the zipline doesn't make sense, but once you learn it there's nothing complicated about it. Jump and you lose momentum, crouch and you keep it.
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>>562197882
There was a stretch where I reported every Bebop player I lost to and complained about the hero in the text box.
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doorman and drifter are the most 3edgy5u characters ever written
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>>562197595
You gotta use them in teamfights when the enemy is too overwhelmed to deal with them
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>>562197595
You need to be shooting them at the same time so they run/fight you instead
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>>562196527
Vatican is much more likely to be friendly with archmother, venator would never be on hidden king
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>>562197956
I love how this picture goes lower and lower every time I see it, soon we'll have it uncropped
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>>562198202
I'd say Doorman is more of a pretentious Tumblr sexy man than anything.
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I can't imagine Dynamo players being anything other than fat fuck redditors
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I want a meepo hero
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>>562198765
Fucking retard. You should never pick this her. Cause Meepo in your game always means useless zero.
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If you think about logically Graves definitely does anal.
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>>562198969
>propaganda
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my team is always full of spirit heroes so i want to learn a gun hero but none of them are fun
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>>562197815
i am working under the assumption that you can't just pick your patron, they instead are the ones that pick or find the people somehow
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Silver should have a 10% chance when ulting to be in heat.
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>>562199282
She's always in heat
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Silver is good, you guys just fucking unironically suck at her, some of you guys don't even play her and just parrot "buff silver" shitposters.
Silver isn't OP either though. A good silver is usually just good at the game and you just got outskilled.
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my friends like to buy trophy hunter is that good or bad?
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>>562199485
>dies once
>is now useless for the rest of the game
The hero is not good, she does literally nothing when behind and she has no way to recover.
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>>562199621
Good if they're trying to lower their rank
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I unironically think at this point you could cut the damage of every character across the board by 25% and things would be more balanced than they are right now
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>>562199621
Best item in the game statistically
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>>562199980
I think that, but ironically.
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>>562199629
Your bola? Your slam fire?
How the fuck are you not getting value out of these two unless you fucking suck?
>>562199621
Trophy Hunter is one of the worst buys in the entire game because if you're behind it's not worth it and if you're ahead it's better to buy an actually good item.
The ONLY reason to buy it is if you're REALLY trying to min-max your range stat while you're ahead. The souls income blows and the other stats are meh. It's the ultimate mid-wit item who are good enough at the game to THINK they can get a bunch of stacks early (at which point you do NOT need THunter) but not good enough to recognize the item fucking blows.
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Hahahahahaha....you see that shit? Hehehehehehe
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>>562200146
>Your bola?
hehehe
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>>562200146
Have you ever played Silver?
Have you ever played against Silver?
The hero falls off faster than any other.
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>>562199485
She's dogshit and a throw pick in Archon and higher.
>t. 200 matches on her, went from Ritualist to Oracle playing just Silver
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>Play a game where a Mina is legit blatantly aimbotting and potentially walling
>She comes over ledges and starts beaming you with perfect accuracy
>As soon as the game goes past 15 minutes she falls so far behind in farm that it doesn't even matter and she still ends up losing
lol
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>>562200373
The cost of relying on hacks. You have no micro/macro.
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WE'RE STILL CLIMBIN'
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>>562199629
>dies once
>TRANSLATION: I died 15 times in lane
Stop playing aggressively in lane when you don't have ult up.
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>>562199629
It's cock and balls torture. I'm playing a 12 to 36 kills game as her right now.
>do nothing unless point blank and can burst people down
>melt instantly if you get close and they're far ahead
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>>562200367
delusional troon
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>>562200547
>putting points in ult
You don't play Silver.
The only time she's strong is in lane, and unless she can secure a lead there she's useless for the rest of the game.
Also her ult is a literal grief skill and you're better off not skilling it at all so you can keep using your good skills and not losing your ranged attack.
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You can tell people in /dlg/ don't roam with Silver and try to play her as a carry.
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>>562200707
That's what the "people" that think Silver is strong are, yes.
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>mods I like are broken or outdated
fuck it, how hard is it to mod this game if you already know 3Dfaggotry?
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I think there are too many item slots DESU. Sure it's cool for build variety but there's too much potential for bullshit
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>>562200803
You can also tell they are shit at the game and have no idea how to build, or identify a meme build. Someone post that picture where a silver has 9 items and all were greens crying about how xhe does no damage lmao
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Silver upplayers having another meltie lol guess they lost to the stove in their ritualist games again
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Does T3 Shadow Transformation + Spirit / Bullet Resilience result in 90% resilience or 78%
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>>562201085
you can do it in the hideout and hold tab with all items bought and it will show you, though I wouldnt be surprised if that was bugged
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I can tell that the current iteration of Mirage is busted but he's just not fun
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shiv knives do too much damage what the fuck
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>>562200941
Would you believe me if I told you there used to be EVEN MORE?
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>>562201030
Can't wait for her to get first picked again. Last week was super funny
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>>562201178
I'm having loads of fun with Mirage thanks
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>>562201173
Oh yeah I was thinking of it in games where you can see resistance at the top of the screen, forgot about on the side.
Comes out to 72% though, so I suppose the game calculates it differently
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What would be 3 good supports that aren't Rem and Paige?
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>>562201286
once these pro pussies realize you can still build orange abrams we will finally be free of all the silver shit
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>>562201397
doorman viscous snownigger
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>>562201397
Ivy
Kelvin
Dmo
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>>562196161
Boxing gym, big dog. It's good for you (bad for your brain). Nothing quite like it. It's the most caveman thing you can do.
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Most silvers in my shitlow matches do retardedly well all the way up until the last ten minutes where she falls off a cliff and we win the game against her
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>>562195843
>tranny movement
Welcome to 3d games, pussy. Maybe DOTA is more your speed.
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Remove McGinnis ult.

That is all.
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>>562199621
bro just go hit boxes, like actually
3,200 investment for the equivalent of picking up quarters while you schmoove around is hilariously bad
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so what should scarabs steal if max hp is worthless and lifesteal is op?
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>>562201917
souls
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>>562201917
>make it possible to miss the scarab
>tone down the damage reduction
>make it not work with EE or nuke EE from existence
ez as that
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I'M DOING IT!
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>>562201917
they should delete Mirage and recreate Undying
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>>562197956
i look and act like this
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>>562201917
The damage reduction on scarabs is whats making shitters cry about him. I'd maybe make the hp steal a bit worse in lane, but scale up to being better.
Personally I think he's pretty close to where he should be though
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>>562201917
Move speed
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>>562201917
also give his ult a cooldown
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>Find carry
>Bola carry
>Kick carry behind you spot
>Dump slam fire into carry chest
>Finish off with werewolf 1
>Press 2
>home free
>repeat
>lategame
>You're a bola and kick bot that casts taunt on the entire enemy team when you pop werewolf
How do you guys play a moba but you don't know how to stub or harass carries or initiate for your team.
She has a similar role to lash in a way in that you're not supposed to be a carry, you're supposed to be killing niggas in jungle or lane and fucking with the carries.
Silver is only as good as her team is, kinda like Billy. If nobody is really capitalizing off of your werewolf making space or YOUR team taking advantage of you annoying the shit out of the enemy carry then you're going to lose.
This is why she's such a heel in night shift
>>562200803
>>562200962
You can absolutely play Silver like a carry (just like lash), she's just not suited to it so it's rare that carry Silver shines.

I tire of this idea that /dlg/ has where any character that isn't a hard carry or win button on ult is garbage.
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>>562201480
BUILT FOR CELESTE HORSECOCK
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>>562201696
Pretty much how it goes in high elo, except she only does well during laning and only against certain heroes. But nooo, the upplayers will tell you she can solo the whole enemy team
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>>562199485
silverfags are sub-20iq subhumans, what else do you expect from them
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lol everything below eternus is pisslow elo I play haze and seven btw
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>>562201464
>build gun on silver
>die in 1 second instead of 3
damn...
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I like Silver but I can't enjoy any other bruisers
>Billy
I don't like the melee fishing mindgame
>Yamato
Feels turbo squishy and awkward to pilot
>Abrams
Nothing about his kit feels appealing especially after they nerfed his gun builds
>Victor
Nerfed to shit
>Shiv
I'm not good enough to play him
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What the fuck can you do when your both lanes turbofeed like this?
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>>562202381
Oh don't get me twisted, the single time she was meta was pure aids and you cannot convince me otherwise silver schizo
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>>562195806
Neat, I'll try it.
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>>562202480
Gee I dunno, go help them maybe.
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>>562202556
>Oh don't get me twisted, the single time she was meta was pure aids
For like two days? Lmao
She was nerfed into a fair state really quick pal. You're just shitlow if you had any problems with her after that
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>>562202480
>celeste
farm
>can't farm
euthanize
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>>562202426
you responded to the wrong person, never do that again uncle
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>>562195810
Good thing they didn't call it ARAM, huh?
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Wheres the april fools update
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>>562202909
You're playing it right now.
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Does silence stop aura of suffering this is such a brainless ability seriously
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>>562202437
>I'm not good enough to play him
take the shivpill, I doubt it will be as hard as you think (unless you are pisshigh and actually need to be doing the schmooving immediately)
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>>562203041
I'm in ascendant it's too late to learn difficult characters...
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yay i love rem being able to suck into someones pocket 90 km away out of position? not my problem lol im a new hero so oops new retarded hero
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>>562203193
bro is still complaining about the weakest support in the game
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STOP I DONT WANT TO CLIMB AIEEEE
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>>562203193
>out of position
this doesnt apply to 3/6 of the new characters, wonder what that ratio is for the rest of the roster
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>>562203028
Silence doesn't stop any channel.
>>562203318
Rem is a nigger hero regardless of what rank you are.
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"Darcy Graves" is a WASP-coded name, anyone who says shes jewish is wrong
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>>562203165
>He ranked up
Rookie mistake
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Someone make a new bread or I will make a yuri one.
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>>562203346
Don't worry you'll be stuck here forever.
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>>562203346
Welcome to the stomp-tier.
From this point on every game will end in under 30 minutes, most are over by 15 and just go through the motions until 20/5.
I hope you don't like playing late game scaling characters because you're never gonna see late game again.
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>>562203560
>>562203585
haha...
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>>562194525
I did say it wasn't particularly good, just better than gun. It's about the same power level if not more consisted through early-mid game but you aren't completely useless late game.
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>>562203726
>>562203726
>>562203726
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>>562195034
Half the time the ascent barely works. And the hitbox was definitely fucked in the process.
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>>562203028
No but it stops him from using jumpstart which is a pretty big deal
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>>562199629
That's just the game in general now, it's too snowbally and the 'comeback' mechanic of the urn is dogshit.
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>>562201917
Nothing. Mirage is a terribly designed character, he should be completely reworked instead of being made into another overpowered M1 clicker like Wraith who you aren't allowed to itemize against since they deal hybrid damage.
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I was tilting so fucking hard in this game holy shit.

The retards almost threw it away. We won a teamfight 4 of them dead, 6 of us alive. No midboss to take.

Yellow lane pushed to their base and only 2nd phase of their Patron remains, instant end basically.

Only me and Vindicta went, rest of them decided to go jungle like fucking retards so we couldn't finish, they restored, Haze killed all of them with single ult and took mid and almost killed our patron. Curse came in clutch and basically always got her instakilled because otherwise we'd be fucking done.
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>>562202437
Shiv is really easy to play since they made his knives do like 500 damage each with only a few spirit items.
>>562203430
Yeah you literally cannot be out of position as Apollo, Rem, or Celeste, since you have a billion get out of jail free cards.
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>>562173293
Git gud



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