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Visual Novel General #7511

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

Previous thread: >>562103323
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The oldest zoomer is now 30 year old
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wtf is this captcha
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>>562167347
>3dpd op
Fuck off
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>>562167401
April fools
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Sherryhanna ritualpost
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>>562167401
Serval is cute.
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Your favourite boomerge?
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>>562167516
I honestly don't have one. It has been way, way too long since I last played an old VN (I'm talking pre-2000). I do have a few old vinnies in backlog but I can't decide on which.
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>>562167490
Can’t wait for manomura
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>>562167430
I haven't seen anime in years. I'm getting filtered.
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>>562167516
Yu-no. Literally changed my life.
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>>562167824
Watch jjk , solo leveling and frieren to become a normie
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>>562167150
That's right MAGIC IS REAL
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>>562167824
Most of the anime/game characters in the captchas are from 10-30 years old properties.
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Do I have to read Dies Irae do understand Dies Irae (Samurai Version)?
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>>562168214
Not necessary but you should read it as it’s good
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>>562168281
Dies irae is not good
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>>562168451
... is what i would say if 934785783487578945 black men were violating my asshole.
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>>562168518
Hot
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>>562168214
Yeah, it’s required reading otherwise the emotional moments won’t hit as hard.
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>>562167824
Kemono Friends is pretty kino.
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>>562168518
M-Mizuhi??
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>>562168697
Will the emotional moments hit like a red truck if I read DI?
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is every chuunige legally required to include a gangbang scene or something
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>>562166452
Beatrice won
Battler lost
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>>562168735
Mizuhi would never post on 4chan
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>>562168930
I wish.
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Is this actually good?
https://vndb.org/v28118
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>>562170059
Read Zato instead
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>3P ending
>The 3P sex happened offscreen
Fucking why?
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>>562170059
Quof called it kamige
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>>562170403
Quof also said that he prefers cucumbers to carrots. I can't trust that fag.
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>>562170059
Old jops love it
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test

this isn't a vn wtf
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>>562170059
>jop
>bluesky
>tranime pfp
41% waiting room
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>>562171594
Which VN character should it include?
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/65413429?view_adult=true
Please read this. It's a really short Muramasa fanfiction.
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>>562171683
cant imagine moogy dying
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>>562171683
That's either an Umineko or a Touhou pfp. Also imagine seething at people learning japanese. Why are you so angry?
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>>562170059
no but there's a not-so-subtle shill campaign going on. i think everybody in the cartel have had SEX with the dev (or xe promised them patreon bucks split) in exchange for shilling his never-to-be-finished le-subahibiesque bloatslop
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>>562172002
>i think everybody in the cartel have had SEX with the dev
Is this a bad thing? I would like to have sex with other anons, especially if they were vn writers.
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>>562171945
just pointing out facts
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>>562172079
Read >>562171814
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>>562172184
>However, her frustration has been derived from Sorimachi’s assistance.
>However, she rationalized her decision using the old adage “Takes one to know one.”
stopped there, please make an ai pass to fix this
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>>562171814
>“Minato Kageaki, I will kill you…” Ichijou croaked, closing her eyes.
Kino
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good night /vn/
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>>562172951
Good night, sex with Anan.
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Let me tell you a story:
It all started in february last year. I was sad and depressed. Life was hard but my penis was soft. No passion for reading, for masturbating, for going out. No nothing. The days were flying fast like a pterodactyl in heat when suddenly I noticed something on my pc. An open tab and inside it a site called Jast. I browsed some of the pages until a title caught my eyes. "Full Metal Daemon Muramasa". An image depicting a guy with some weird armor bride-carrying a blue haired girl was staring at me from the center of the page. From my experience hesitation is always a mistake so I bought it instantly.
An year later and I am no longer the same man. The journey I've gone through can't be described in just words so I will leave you with an advice. Take the plunge, my dear boy. Read Muramasa.
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Sarasa route completed!
Damn, I love fictional girls who are terminally ill and stuck in hospital beds. It’s when the protagonists turn into full on knights and start reflecting on a lot of things, becoming incredibly sweet, attentive, affectionate, and pushing themselves to the limit both physically and psychologically for the heroine. In this case, the MC sees her as a fairy tale princess and even tells her that.

Now I'm going to read the fandisc. I hope it's not just cheap sex fanservice...
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>>562174813
Cool but next time >>>/jp/
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<<</jp/
Wow the april fools joke SUCKS
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>log out of pass
>it asks me which african kingdom is some dude from
thats all? lame
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they should have added /vn/ characters to the april fools captcha
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>>562176320
>anon gets mad at a portugal african kangdoms meme
Sovless
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>>562174813
Cant find any vinnies by this name whats the full name
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>>562176753
This but only Kageaki.
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VNs definitely made me more sissy than I was before
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>>562177320
kek
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>>562177353
bro i want to be an eroge heroine so badly
makes me want to kill myself
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I just listened to the Manosaba ost. It's one of the best mixed and composed peices I've heard come from a video game, do all of you despise theatrical neo-classical?
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>>562177663
>peices
Subahibi posters making spelling mistakes is so damn cute. I would love to listen to theatrical neo-classical music while holding hands with you. Any reccs, friend?
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i hate slop
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>>562177882
I love semenslop
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>>562177663
i'm tired of nier aah osts
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>>562177663
>It's one of the best mixed and composed peices I've heard come from a video game
I sincerely hope you do not believe this. Even in its own genre of drakengard/nier-esque it's pretty bad
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>my AI image generation subscription ended

I guess I have time to play VNs now. Any suggestions?
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>>562178203
Muramasa, Subahibi, Tokyo Necro,
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>>562178203
saar lets you use his for free off a bot, why would you need your own?
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>>562178203
sort vndb by average and play the first one that looks cool

>NUOOOOOOOOOO I NEED A SUGGESTION FROM A /VN/ ANON AAAAAAAAA
umineko
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>>562178264
OK, I'll try Subahibi.
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>>562178264
>one kuso, one mid, one kino
Clever.
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>>562178348
this but shift by 2
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>>562178309
Prepare to have your life changed. You won't be the same after reading Subahibi.
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>>562178449
I don't want to transition
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>>562178449
Is this what Subahibi does to a man?
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what's the crimson desert of vns?
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>>562178646
Rance X
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Rate my taste
https://vndb.org/u1814
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>>562178678
rance x is the rance x of vns
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>>562178678
>>562178738
Rance X isn't a VN though.
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>>562178695
>Dohna Dohna only a 6.4
Shit.
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>>562178678
Trying to say crimson kuso isn't vidya?
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>>562178695
Not bad. And you were generous with dohna dohna.
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(Slowly) Learning Japanese: Part I
May 18, 2014 · by veronin · in other, visual novels · 4 Comments
As I’ve been studying Japanese for about two months now, I thought it might be interesting to update every now and then with my progress. Maybe it will encourage someone else to start learning as well. Or maybe people will just enjoy laughing at how terrible I am with the language. Either way, it sounds like fun!

I would like to make one thing clear: Japanese is not some bizarre, impossible-to-learn language. The problem is that people rely on college classes to teach them the language. Classes are shit. The easiest way to learn is to teach yourself, because everybody has their own style and methods of learning. Maybe you’d prefer to grind kanji all day long. Or maybe you’d rather study basic grammar and improve your vocabulary through eroge (like me). Maybe you’re capable of rote memorisation, or maybe you require mnemonics to make things stick in your head. The point is that it is doable as long as you do what works best for yourself (and aren’t a lazy bastard like I used to be).

Anyway, the first thing I did when deciding to tackle glorious 日本語 was teach myself the kana. It’s intimidating at first, but it can be done in just a few days. There’s an awesome site called realkana which lets you practice their sounds one column (five kana) at a time. You do the practices over and over, again and again until the kana are drilled into your memory. And then you add another column in. And then you’re done with hiragana. And then finally the katakana are drilled into your brain
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>>562178791
6.4 is overrating it.
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>>562170059
Wait a second is this.... Koikatsu VN?
I kneel Moogy-donosama
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>>562178126
>Nier
You do know this type of music is a lot older than Nier, right? Stigma - Yousei Teikoku is a 2005 record, you can make an argument for Swell Strings being even older, but it's mostly IDM.

>>562177782
Monograph is a good introductionary album to the style. I started with a doujin album called "Gothika", I got from a Myspace page. I'll link both but Gothika is not very traditional to the style.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mninwuURyp1WHr7ckcLlqkCmgcfveWP-8&si=3JVn30zpWkrq2k2m

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR22M3FpmFnwPOElIYqtKI1WrlNIm0uV7&si=6X4L9JUSni8RrYXj
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>>562178695
>>562178923
>why are you using 4chan memes outside of 4chan?
Is he right?
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That's it. I'll be blogposting lessons in love.
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>>562170059
Yes, its pretty good.
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>>562178695
>100/100 instead of 10/10 rating system
>low scores
Pseud weaaboo shit.
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>>562179174
Thanks friend, I'll be listening to it. Have a beautiful day.
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>>562179195
We await with anticipation.
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>>562177663
It sounds AI generated and soulless
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>>562179274
>give all the moeshit and pornshit good scores onegai
No. Also yeah not everyone will enjoy Grisaia, deal with it.
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>>562170059
It's fine the dev and his discord are pretty cringe though
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>>562179554
>not everyone will enjoy kamige
Yea it's a real shame
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>>562179704
And? Are you going to cry about it?
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Why are jops more open minded than eops?
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>>562177226
https://vndb.org/c7212
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>>562179914
Yeah open-minded when they blow their own brains out from trooning out.
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>>562179957
youre just proving his point lil bro
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>>562174813
>Donkan Hetare Protagonist
Kusoge
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>>562180017
There was no proving, and no point.
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>>562178923
I remember this guy. Was an anime reviewer on MAL and had a somewhat elitist approach with high expectations for writing. Then went to Japan, found himself a wife, and now seems to make 3D vns for a living: https://vndb.org/v29256
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I love Karen
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>>562180047
>Falling through the protagonist's day 1 tags
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>>562180116
I've actually heard of that kusoge but I didn't know the dev had a backstory like that
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>>562180116
>found himself a wife, a
What? I thought he went to Japan and then returned to Sweden since he preferred the later. I don't remember any wife shit.
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>>562180363
I love fat bitches!
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>>562179554
>eroge general
Just read a real book, pseud-chama.
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>>562181082
Too much description
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>>562181498
Karen
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>>562181498
Rokuhara scientist's hobo concubine.
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>>562181498
Chat is this real?
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>>562181498
How did you get this?
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>>562179824
You're the one doing a bit of crying right now over someone's opinions
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Whenever I see something from watanabe on my timeline it's always something like this.
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>>562181972
>no u
Sure.
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>>562179957
kek, idblt
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>keep baiting MC in the common route
>even has nude sprite
>is actually not sexually involved, not even as side dish for 3some in the daughter route
KUSOFUCKINGE
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https://x.com/kurotama_2nd/status/2039280040047948122
O-P-P-A-I
TAKUSAN
OPPAI!
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>>562183434
She has fat woman oppai
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Reading white album 2 made me think of whiplash ng.l
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I always follow guides for all the VNs I play.
I started playing Dracu Riot and noticed that the recommended play order makes me read Elina's route first. I refuse to do this. She's by far my favorite. She'll be 2nd to last, right before Miu's route.
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>>562179174
I said drakengard did I not? No one's talking about the genesis anyway, just common associations and standouts
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>>562184380
Just be warned that Azusa's route basically spoils every other route.
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>>562184380
Don't yuzuge have flowcharts anyway? Or was dracu-riot still too early to have them?
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>>562184380
Her route is kind of ass though
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>>562184567
>moege spoilers
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>>562184567
>>562184697
kek beat me to it
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>moege
>spoiler
yada yada 5 girls introductions, yada yada best friend is virgin and funny kek BUHII common route plot nobody cares, aieeeee CHOICES to get my heroiuwu, enter route and know her better ;))) aiwuuuuuu CONFESSION TAM TAM *BOOOOOM* tell your friends that you got a new gf and make all other heroines disappear ::;;(((, hand holding > kissu > sex > ROUTE DRAMA STARTS AND END > sex > end, time to repeat for the other 4
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>>562179195
Enjoy anon. Try to keep an open mind up until the beach trip, once special events start up the flow of the game comes into sharper focus. You can use the guide mod linked below if you start getting lost or annoyed by how difficult it is to find events.

https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-progress-and-guide-mod-v0-57-0-cckerberos.106973/
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>>562185037
She sounds based as fuck
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>>562185037
kys queef
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>>562184630
original did not, but this release does have it
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>>562184943
HFK
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>>562184943
I want more kisses, hugs, dates, aaaahh etc, most Moege are a fraud, it's almost always just sex. Moe my ass.
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>>562185037
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>>562184943
Buhied
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>>562184943
if dvll wrote this then that's the only good thing he ever produced
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>>562185351
bro you're not going to believe this
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>>562185296
Not yet
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How would you rank the combat ability of the Manosaba girls? I feel like Leia, Arisa, Hiro, Sherry and Nanoka all demonstrate some level of combat skill.
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>>562185037
buy an ad
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I miss them
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>>562185037
such a great game that even shills can't play it without external modifications lmao
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>Searching for posts that contain ‘yada yada 5 girls introductions’. 43 results found.
Holy schizo.
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people repost it because it's funny newfaggot. Now read your 1st visual novel
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samefag reposts it because it's unfunny
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nta but i think it's funny, only moecucks get triggered by it
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This is now an EVN thread
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blogpost zato
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>>562186010
Took me like a half a minute to figure out this was supposed to be a fish
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Enlightened buta (me) doesn't feel offended because I know what I'm getting when I read moege. It's like going to the fast food chain and complain why the food is so greasy
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>>562185664
I think it provides insight into psychology. Let's say a game, or any piece of media, has some kind of blemish. Maybe it crashes a lot, maybe it has cut content, maybe it was chopped up by editors, maybe it was censored. Then lets say whatever the problem is has also has a solution. You can install a mod, you can get a fanpatch to add content back in, you can download the unedited text from a pirate site, there's an uncensoring patch, whatever. What, then, is one to focus on?

I think people particularly motivated to dislike and mock a given piece of media will focus on the problem even if there is a solution. They will see the fact there is a blemish as a triumph and a justification for their malice, and brush off any solution to it as cope. In contrast, someone motivated to like and treat a given piece of media fairly will focus on the solution. The fact there is a blemish has no significance to them because they can just solve the problem then enjoy it maximally.

In cases like LiL benefitting from a mod to describe how to get events, I think it really shows what kind of psychology someone has. Those who shrug off the progress mod, mock it, or say it doesn't technically make the game better in itself or whatever are simply those who have a bone to pick with the game. Their vision is blinded by their own desire to express malice. And that's all well and good; human malice is unending and undying. Far be it from me to yearn for a world of good-minded, good-hearted people. However, I can't help but be bemused when I see it, because it's a reminder of how trapped in our own heads we are. It's like watching rats chase after cheese in a maze. The rat cannot help but chase the cheese even as it demeans itself within a maze by doing so. Similarly, rats online cannot help but follow their own petty psychological patterns.
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I am mad because some moege they actually have sex BEFORE kissing, fucking unforgivable abomination kusoge. How can you fuck that up so fucking badly? It’s a fucking disgrace.
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>>562186072
Those truly "enlightened" do not use such language unto themselves. You're a fraud and for that I will turn your flesh into bacon.
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>>562186165
>if i cut my cock i'll become a woman!
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>>562186165
Okay, chatGPT
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>>562186072
>>562186290
kek moebootas infighting, love to see it
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>>562186465
Beato digits
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>>562187443
>>562186465
>using a script just to seethe at umineko
Fuck off.
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>>562187758
malding golden tranny
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Zoomcord lost
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Can we just have one normal thread without 3 retards spamming it down?
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>>562188373
You voted for this.
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>>562188373
It's all filtered so I would never know if it weren't for posts like yours.
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>>562188373
That's a compliment.
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JOPmongs BTFO
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https://youtu.be/snZaQYgVdas?si=K1GLqg3yW3yOnCEs
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>>562188761
>高瀬一矢
we stand and clap
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>>562189115
Why would he say that?
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Despite being 13% of the population
JOPs [ ]
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>>562188896
ORYA
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fuck off, jopcord.
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>>562184697
It does matter somewhat when it's a moege that's attempting to also have a plot.
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>>562189430
read 99.999% of VNs
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>>562185445
I think he also wants something that won't bore him to death.
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>>562189675
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>>562185351
Eye opening statement, those kind of moments where you just cant help to smile are so rare compared to just h scenes.
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>>562185351
The entire point of relationships is sex and reproduction. Most moege understand what people want and cut out the bullshit.
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>>562170059
>JOPs shilling EVNs
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It’s Hibiki Hwednesday!
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>>562190856
The entire narrative of JOPs shilling obscure JVNs simply because English speakers can't access them really comes tumbling down considering how freely and openly they shill English works like Lessons in Love. You can all play it right now. There's not even a hint of elitism or trying to puff up something obscure. At the end of the day, when people like things, they say so and recommend them. That's all there is to it.
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Are millennials allowed to read Dangan Ronpa or is it zoomer-exclusive property?
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>>562191340
How the fuck does big light become lucia?
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>>562178695
The fact you gave tsuki demake an 8.9 while giving a tsuki og a 3.5 is grounds for disregarding all future opinions. You even rated mahoyo higher than tsuki og. Are you one of those fags that places 80% emphasis on production value? That can't be cause you rated dohna dohna a 6.4. You gave high praise to subahibi, muramasa and sakuuta and also gave island an 8(lmao). I have mixed feelings on your tastes. Giving og FSN a 4.5 is pretty funny.
>Aokana would've been much better without the sports
lmao
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So where does it rank among asage?
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>>562191556
oh
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>>562191615
funni faces/10
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>>562185351
I think you are mistaking moeges for nukiges
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kys, trapfaggot.
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>>562182748
is crystalia making some otome with all their past mcs?
>>562181498
Why do you get the cutie vn heroine while I get quizzed on gondola?
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Good morning bros, how are we enjoying this year's epic april fool's gimmick?
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>>562191989
gregman
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>>562191936
Way ahead of you.
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>>562191989
It needed to replace the actual captcha and be a 100% chance. As it is now it sucks ass.
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>>562191989
too many unc memes fr fr
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>>562185351
The real reason these moments are so rare is because the protagonist has to have a personality to have enough romantic chemistry with a given heroine to produce said moments.
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>>562193054
>has to have a personality
The moebros won't like this. Please delete the post.
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>>562167181
RIP
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>>562191615
Translation isn't great, but the base game is fun. Lower than Futamata though.
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>>562193198
>Translation isn't great
You keep saying this but still haven't posted any screenshots.
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>>562168281
>Not necessary
???? it's a sequel/fandisc, too intertwined with DI to read alone
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>>562193054
Or just stop reading shitty self insert ge's. Hoshi ori, some yuzuges, sickly days summer traces, have plenty of the 'lovey dovey stuff' outside of sexual things.

Also pic related, this isn't /a/
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>futamata
>no futa heroines
Dropped.
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>>562193324
>he's faking his blogposting
That shit was hilarious
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>>562193638
route doko...
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>>562178772
It's one of the VNs of all time.
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>>562193683
>stop reading shitty self insert ge's.
Most moege are like that though.
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>>562193793
qrd?
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>>562193683
>Also pic related
what does tomoko have to do with anything? i don't get it
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>>562182748
Didn't they use this same joke before?
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>>562193683
>sickly days summer traces
That's like the most self insert ge of all time lmao. The main character is literally called "Onii-chan" by default.
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>>562194082
the april fools quiz gag, it should be vn related stuff not animu.
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>>562194158
Nobody cares about shitsual novels lmao.
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>>562194158
be happy you haven't gotten /int/ shit.
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>>562194242
Needs the monsters inc logo
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>>562194143
If you actually read the game he is anything but a self insert. Last i checked a self insert doesn't have a fleshed out past, opinions and personality
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>>562194327
KEK
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>>562194158
If it were vn related it would be old stuff that was 4chan culture like Ever17 or Tsukihime. Most of the fags here would not recognize them.
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>>562191989
horrible. should've been the new permanent captcha instead
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>woman moment
Man really dodged a bullet here.
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>>562194347
>Last i checked a self insert doesn't have a fleshed out past, opinions and personality
You don't know what a self insert is lol.
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>>562193683
Which yuzuge? I wanna play one and i'd like it to be with a good MC.
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Guys if you get your mind into it you can self insert to any character
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>>562193683
>stop reading shitty self insert ge's
>lists shitty self insert ge
retard

>>562195023
None
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>>562195082
>Dich bai dang
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>>562195082
I self-insert into heroines. Chocola is literally me.
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>>562194158
>it should be vn related stuff not animu.
The mods didn't make it board specific and even if they had you would still get questions from other /vg/ generals.
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Self-insert into this.
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>>562194242
I'd rather get those, /int/ used to be funny
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>>562195082
>posting ironic xitter shit
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>>562195162
I wish you looked like Chocola. I wouldn't do anything lewd with you, I would just pat your head and give you a warm hug.
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>>562195162
Chocolasissy...
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>>562194868
A self insert is what you find in those shitty dating sims/nukige where you choose your own name and dialogue options. They have practically no personality, no opinions and their past is nonexistant outside of the established setting.
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>>562195109
So many mongs in this thread have never played a true self insert ge. They probably think every vn with romance is meant to be self inserted into
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A non self-insert is a protagonist whose name you still remember a month later
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>>562195789
Kageaki bros we won
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There are 2 types of vns: life-changing ones(LCs for short) or non life-changing ones(LCNs for short). LCNs can be very entertaining in their own way but they won't have as big of an impact as the best LCs. Of course there are a lot of shitty LCs as well so be ready for that. Do you prefer LCs or NLCs?
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>>562195541
That's it in its purest form, but it's taken a new one in the modern era. It's a protagonist that's technically named and technically has a backstory, but ones that are bland and forgettable enough to totally fade into the background and allow for self insertion, anyhow.
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>>562195505
You're simping over a man
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>>562196008
Read my post again. I would only do those things if he looked like Chocola.
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>>562195897
finally somebody is getting it
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If you find any VN life-changing you’re a midwit.
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>>562196098
If he looked like Chocola, lewd acts wouldn't be out of the question either
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>>562195937
You are not really meant to remember the protag, the heroines are the star of the show in any dedicated romance novel. Not even in WA 2 do people talk about the MC, it's always about setsuna or kazusa
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>>562196218
I only find LCs life changing.
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>>562196218
Everyone has to have something change their life at some point, ojiisan.
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>>562196218
Literally even gacha games are life changing nowadays it wouldn’t make sense for zero life changing vn to not exost
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>>562196098
>if he looked like chocola
>he
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>>562196303
A good protagonist is like good sound design. You're not going to notice it, most of the time, but it really brings out the best from the story. A good protagonist should force out the best/most interesting aspects of the heroines and make them shine. Really bland ones can't do that at all.
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>>562196218
Faggot mentality. I can say that Muv Luv and Steins;Gate are still life changing experiences for me today. Meanwhile you're just an eternally jaded fag.
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>>562196303
I know it has a retarded annoying MC because people do talk about him, actually
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>>562196393
>Literally even gacha games are life changing nowadays
Lmao. Technically a buta could start reading a Yuzuge and fall in love with the art style leading to him starting drawing which would put his life on a new path. Basically every piece of writing could be life changing for someone.
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>>562196506
>faggot games are still life changing experiences for me
kek
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>>562196218
now read your first non-moeshit vn
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>>562196506
>. I can say that Muv Luv and Steins;Gate are still life changing experiences for me today.
How? I can kind of get muv luv especially if you read it back in the day but S;G has almost no life-changing elements. Explain yourself.
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>>562196616
The average gacha game is already life changing as they are 500 hour time sink on average which is around 5 times the size of umineko
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Blue archive is a life changing game since it literally got some korean government officials arrested and changed their lives
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>>562196776
nta but it killed fiction for me, i still haven't see a better thought-out plot in any medium
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>>562196776
It was some things related to confidence and friendship. But I don't need to explain or justify my reasons to you or anyone, go back to cooming over your moege.
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>>562196939
now read your second VN
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>>562197142
i read muramasa and it was way worse in terms of structure so i don't think i need to read anything else
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>>562196751
Even among non-moeshit only a few can change your life. It's not the everyday vn that does it.
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>>562197191
terminal shit taste
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Post horrible little faces heroines make.
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>>562197282
>no arguments
qed
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>>562196939
>nta but it killed fiction for me
So you haven't enjoyed anything after reading S;G?
>>562197080
>But I don't need to explain or justify my reasons to you or anyone,
I am not going to make fun of you, I am genuinely curious. Also check Subahibi out.
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>>562197341
any story where the heroine gets raped by aliens in front of the mc is shit
qed
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>>562197396
>So you haven't enjoyed anything after reading S;G?
i have but s;g is the golden standard of a perfect "story", i can't find anything that comes
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>>562197312
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>>562197396
>Subahibi
It's mid.
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>>562197481
>that comes
close
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Floodbro has a very loud mouth but he is too much of a pussy to go on /lit/ and actually argue about philosophy on a board where the replies are long well thought out paragraphs instead of just low effort 1 liners. Is he afraid people will bring arguments for other philosophers and texts that he has not read? Who can tell.
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>>562196616
That is how Hinoue Itaru changed my life
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>>562197582
literally me
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>>562197312
She makes all kinds of horrible faces.
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Give me a kamige without any of that otaku cringe
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>>562197668
i argued on /lit/ multiple times, i just prefer consuming kino instead of trying to teach maths to cats
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DOGSHITE;Gate more like lmol
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>>562197481
Do you judge any other story while comparing it to S;G?
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We love cats here
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We love Kino;Gate here
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We love Kimika here
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>>562197863
that's why it was life-changing
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>>562197762
Bible visual novel
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2167220/The_Bible/
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>>562197791
Link the threads in which you've argued, especially philosophy.
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We hate vns here and love gachaKINO
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>>562196506
This would've been a good post if you hadn't chosen 2 of the most midwit visual novels to get attached to
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>>562198049
>link offtopic eceleb bullshit
uhm nyo, i'd rather keep shilling s;g here
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>>562198035
>No NRSVUE
Drivel. Burn in hell.
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The most life changing vn of all time is bible
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>>562197716
You're a schizo cult leader with 3 personalities?
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>>562198035
Not otaku cringe. just cringe
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>>562198045
Erotic
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idk bro unless you're below 24 vinnies won't change your perspective on stuff that easily and they won't really bring any new fresh perspective that haven't considered before
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>>562198167
>high cortisol to low cortisol
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>>562198165
out of all fiction it indeed is according to my memelines

sadly i'm too smart for it so i'm not the target audiece
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>>562198259
VNs only change teenage lives
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>>562198150
So you have no proof? Also how is it off topic when philosophy plays a huge part in vns?
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>>562197762
Read the quran visual novel
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3425880/The_Noble_Quran/
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>>562198328
>philosophy plays a huge part in vns
maybe on planet pretentious roon
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>>562198328
you can argue vn philosophy with me here, leave /lit/ alone
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>>562198259
I think that's all fiction in general yes. Once you get older I think your philosophy starts to be formed by your real life lived experiences more than by stories.
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>>562197791
why do you hate wittie's philosophical investigations?
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>>562198165
Is there a Bible VN with cute anime girls?
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>>562197903
Including this cat?
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Is there any chuunige where every character is going full retard in almost every scene?
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Quran is the second most life changing vn on global scale
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Damn, I would've consoomed more media in my teens if I had known it could only be life changing then.
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>>562198462
because it's dishonest
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>>562198558
minecraft > vinnies
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>>562198508
coco is a fake cat
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Is quran vn technically denpa?
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>>562197194
Who? Never heard of her.
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>>562198659
>sheep
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>>562198427
Why would I leave /lit/ alone when it was the whole point of my statement? Can you link those threads? Yes or no?
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>>562197762
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3071120/IZGUB_2001/
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>>562198586
>Single hell! Single hell! Single all the way! Nobody wants me this year and I will alone! Yay!
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>>562198698
town
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>>562198532
Asage.
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>>562198632
how
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>>562198541
Muhammad < Nurgle
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>>562198481
https://vndb.org/v9
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>>562198683
Quran is an Utsuge
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How would S;G change your life? It's not a particularly thought-provoking story.
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>>562198841
>v9
Impressive. Very nice.
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>>562198683
It’s lolige
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>>562198841
>futas
>NTR
>incest
>scat
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>>562198708
I like the ugly pseudo-forward facing art, it reminds me of the BLOW US ALL TO HELL game.
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>>562198532
Muramasa
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Mohammed >>>> mamiya takuji
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>>562198702
>Why would I leave /lit/ alone when it was the whole point of my statement?
because it's offtopic

>>562198808
you can't "solve" philosophy and then disown your work by coping many years later
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>>562198871
it teaches you how to make a time machine newfag
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>>562198871
Your brain isn't big enough to understand
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>>562198989
sometimes you just realize your youthful retardation and mature
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>>562199107
>sometimes you just lose your soul
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>>562199107
You're in the wrong thread man everybody here is retarded inclung me
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>>562199107
or sometimes you get early dementia and disown your own lamps of genius
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>>562199173
Is /vn/ a bakage?
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>>562198989
>because it's offtopic
It's not if those discussions are related to a vn that uses specific concepts mentioned in them to build its narrative. I will take it as a no.
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English mystery VNs on Steam from the past few years:
>Beyond R: Rule Ripper
>Birth ME Code
>Blankspace
>Bound Between Desks
>Clean Slate
>CORPSE FACTORY
>Decide 4 God (Out now in full 1.0)
>Detective Instinct: Farewell, My Beloved
>The Divine Deception
>Entropic Float: This World Will Decay And Disappear
>The Game of Fourtune
>Head AS Code (remake)
>Look Inside
>Methods: The Canada Files
>Methods: The Detective Competition
>The Price of Flesh
>Quantum Suicide
>Reaplaced
>Shards of Chaos
>The Specters Desire
>SYNESTHESIA
>Tead
>Thief's Roulette
>Whispering Memories
>The Zodiac Trial

English mystery VNs on Steam that are to-be-released:
>The Lost Delinquents of Rollings High
>NO MORE WORK FOR ITO
>Ubel
>Underground22
>The Wonderland Killings
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>>562199252
>I will take it as a no.
>>562198150
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>>562199369
Good. One day you might be able to provide that proof. I guess this is not the lucky one.
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>>562197791
>/lit/
>I just prefer consuming film
average failed /lit/fag loser
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>>562198871
I got diabetus from drinking too much Dr. Pepper
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>>562198328
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/14603407
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>>562199526
Aoko owes me sex.
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>>562199526
Someone already beat you to the punch motherfucker
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>Aoko owes me sex.
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It's Reia's birthday, let her be the center of attention for a bit
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>>562199618
陰キャ inception moment.
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>>562199848
Glad you're back
Did you cure your baldness?
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>Aoko owes me sex.
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>>562199602
Floodbro has not read Umineko and that post looks almost intentionally made to make Uminekofags look bad.
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>>562199470
That buta kigurumi is super cute!
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>>562200039
HINOWAAAAAA!!!
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>>562199994
Hey girl, were you born on the April Fools? Because you are a joke!
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Fuck off trapmong.
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>>562197481
>>562196939
Back to the future is a better time-travelling story.
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>>562200274
lol
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>>562199994
She can't even appear on TV, it's over for her
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>>562200034
I am many things but bald.
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>>562200145
Is this furry? It's still okay as long as she doesn't have paws and a snout, right?
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What is the "message" of Steins;Gate supposed to be?
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>>562200384
>better times
I too yearn for feudalism and no running water.
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>>562200403
it's "you don't need a message in order to be life-changing"
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>>562200331
It's true. It's way more kino and enjoyable.
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>>562200403
I happily have faith in my bazinga
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>>562200445
This but unironically
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>>562200445
This but unironically
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>>562200384
Post her screams.
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>>562200485
maybe if you are 100iq boomer with no attention span
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>>562200445
Ancient Rome had running water tho
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>>562200384
>no internet
>no plumbing
>no AC
>better times
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>>562200463
If there's no message it's just entertainment. Which is fine, but entertainment doesn't change your life.
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>>562199602
>If you're not emotionally ready for it, or blast through it without much thought, Umineko may end up being just another story to you. But if you really take the time, pay attention, and above all, never stop thinking - then the witch will bestow countless gifts upon you, and welcome you to the Golden Land. This isn't the kind of lazy postmodern story that gives you nothing but a blank canvas full of random noise, that puts all the responsibility on the reader to create a meaningful story. This is an equal partnership of love. Umineko respects you and wants to meet you halfway - if you respect it in return and put in the effort to truly understand it.

Is this truie?
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>>562199994
Give her attention, quick
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I feel bad for tricking this poor girl
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VNs do make me more assertive around women, so that counts as life-changing.
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>>562200669
>entertainment doesn't change your life
why not? life-changing is simply the very opposite of forgettable, there's no need for messages in theory. though obviously if the ge is about philosophy or something that you can easily relate to then it's more easy to be life-changing, but it's not a strict requirement
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>>562200714
No Umineko is way overwritten
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>>562200649
Yes.
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Umineko > shit gate
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>>562200649
Okay, but you could be mentally 100% in the moment for sweaty, filthy poopsex with your daughterwife.
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>>562200669
It doesn't have to have explicit messages to be life changing.
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>>562200845
>>562200548
>>562200510
>>562200647
Subahibi would not exist back then so life would be meaningless.
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>>562200714
>and welcome you to the Golden Land
that's a fancy way to imply a troonout
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>>562200926
subahibi is shit
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>>562200892
Don't fuck your daughter just b/c she looks like a clone of your waifu.
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>>562200892
What the fuck is poopsex
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>>562200605
Old people are wiser than new gen fags. Only 150+ IQ people can appreciate kino like Back to the future.
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Was just announced that https://vndb.org/v53726 will have 20 mini spinoff games by these writers (not an april fools).
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>>562200892
wat
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>>562201050
I'm the father
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>>562200926
trooke

>>562200714
this is why i really want to read umineko. better each kamige has a very strong minority of people who haven't read it or didn't like it, so you never know who to trust

i pity the poor soul who fell for reddit;gate meme and never consumed it for it's /vn/ reputation alone
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>>562201069
I don't know, you'd have to time travel back then to find out. Maybe that's why Steins;Gate is so life changing.
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>>562201098
Secret Guest is https://vndb.org/s215 according to chink leaks.
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>>562200714
Ryukishi's stories are much simpler, he's never been le difficult writer to understand. About being emotionally ready yes. Umineko does expect reader being empathetic and emotionally intelligent.
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>>562196939
>thought-out plot
I am a characterCHAD and in that department S;G doesn't have that much to offer. Sorry it can't be officially kino.
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>>562200669
it changed the lives of retards who actually think steins gate is good kek
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>>562201182
All moege daughters are the result of asexual reproduction.
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kek shitgate in shambles.
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>>562201289
name a ge with better laid out plot
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>>562201275
>Umineko does expect reader being empathetic and emotionally intelligent.
How can I test if I am empathetic and emotionally intelligent?
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>>562201098
>not an april fools).
Bullshit.
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>>562201485
Fate KINO
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>>562201275
>truth is subjective
>without feelings you can't
So you're telling me the evidence is invisible because I'm a hater?
Way to end your mysteryge lol
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>>562201508
I mean you have Shumon Yuu and Setoguchi tweeting about it so chances are it's real.
https://x.com/gyyuiuui/status/2039360521196171775
https://x.com/shumonyu/status/2039351129855930530
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>>562201671
THIS THIS THIS
SO MUCH THIS
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>>562201275
Explain Silent Hill f then
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>>562201485
Reread my post again, I said that characters are more important to me than the plot.
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>>562201347
Moege heroines are like those alien species that reproduce with humans, but have much stronger genes that overwhelm the human's.
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>>562201485
Every VN in the top ten of vndb
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>>562201840
S;G fans have no reading comprehension
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>>562201723
wtf. Guess I have to read the first game soon then
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I remember S;G having some asspulls but I read it a long time ago. I might have to reread it just to prove this fag wrong since it's 100% not a perfect plot.
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>>562201275
Umineko doex expect reader to be empathetic with the death of Ryukixhi'x gay lover
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>>562201098
>no Tanaka Romeo
>no R07
>no Ushikoshi
>no SCA-JI
Uwa...
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Shitgate is an overrated garbage for teens.
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>>562201704
>So you're telling me the evidence is invisible because I'm a hater?
You can misinterpret it if you're a hater.
>>562201776
Angst over realizing your purpose in society being incubator and a maid.
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>>562202109
It does but if you point anything out he'll just say "butterfly effect" and ignore it
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Kiss your kouhai.
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>>562201776
marriage bad
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>>562202238
Answer >>562201491
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>>562202447
Read WA2 and post your thoughts about Setsuna-Haruki-Kazusa triangle.
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I tried reading books but I just can't finish them because they don't have cute girls. It just feels lonely and depressing to read stories without cute girls.
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>>562202212
>the 2 best writers in the medium paired with the "we suck at writing endings" squad
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>>562202212
No futa or trans characters confirmed then.
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>>562202631
Kek, low IQ VNmong.
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>>562202572
>Ge that's < 10 hours
SNOOOOOOOOOORE
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Who did the complete dogshit Lucia route in Rewrite?
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>>562201671
lol
>>562201840
read my post again, i never said anything about characters
>>562201947
the only one that my beat it is mla but it's a coinflip
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>>562201098
why should we care about this kusoge from a literal who company
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>>562202646
You're right. Tanaka Romeo and R07 can not write endings.
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>>562202631
bro i don't even care about books
like once you graduate high school why bother
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>>562202631
Imaginationlet, you’re meant to visualize them.
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>>562202572
Don't you have something easier than reading a whole vn? Invent a short scenario and then ask me how I would act. At the end judge my answer.
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>>562202274
let's hear them then
>inb4 muh vegetables
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>>562202849
For Setoguchi and Shumon Yuu of course. At least that's enough for me to check it out.
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>>562202835
>read my post again, i never said anything about characters
Yes, I've never contested that. For me characters are more important than the plot so S;G will never be true KINO.
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>>562202849
For Nishida Hajime of course. We love traps.
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you can tell whether someone is a virgin or not based on their taste in VNs
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>>562203147
i don't disagree, at least half the characters are garbage in s;g, i'm talking about the actual plotline and how the story is structured
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>>562202986
This is an example of what I'm talking about, actually. The vegetable thing is objectively stupid and makes no sense. If the explanation for it working is "muh butterfly effect" then why is him losing his dick literally the only difference in the entire world after almost 2 decades? The concept of a butterfly effect is one miniscule action multiplying to unforseen world-altering consequences, but this dumb scheme that shouldn't have worked somehow only changed the one specific thing it was targeting and nothing else.
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>>562203336
Yeah, and?
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>>562203336
My favorite vn is Tsukihime can you tell what I am
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>>562203376
>If the explanation for it working is "muh butterfly effect" then why is him losing his dick literally the only difference in the entire world after almost 2 decades?
because attractor fields, speedreader-kun
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Damn bitch, you live like this?
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>>562202903
That doesn't help when the writing is like that. The way books characterize foids is disgusting.
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>>562202993
>both are making all ages kusoge 'The big short' wannabe with waifu bait
Nah hard pass
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>>562203376
>wtf why are there flying car in blade runner!
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Time travel except it's a dream within a dream
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yiruma Anon, are you here?
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>>562203503
That's just a hand-wavy catch-all for the time travel plotholes. You want to explain the stupid stuff away with butterfly effect, but then magically everything not directly plot-related is unchanging because of the attractor fields.
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>>562203368
Good, just keep in mind that according to me, THE KING, S;G will never be a kamige.
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>>562203713
Literally Summer Pockets.
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>>562203504
https://www.purplesoftware.jp/products/mglmn/#stage
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>>562203769
>That's just a hand-wavy catch-all for the time travel plotholes
it can't be a "hand-wavy catch-all for the time travel plotholes" if it's introduced beforehand as an in-universe mechanic...

it's like saying "magic isn't real so fantasy shows are garbage"
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>>562202835
Have you even read mla, little bro?
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>>562203861
ok. favourite vn? i need to know what to do with that opinion of yours
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>>562203504
Watch out, anon, that's a male living space. She might be a trap.
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>>562203594
wat?
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>>562203960
Just because you introduce it beforehand doesn't mean it isn't hand-wavy. It's basically an excuse for the writers to pick and choose which time travel framework they're adopting for whichever would be most convenient for the plot at that moment.
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>>562204105
Subahibi and Majikoi.
>i need to know what to do with that opinion of yours
You can't do nothing with it. I am the King and my opinion is law.
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kek
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steins;gate's storytelling is pretty sloppy and convenient if you think about it
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>>562204075
no, i only read the first 6 hours of muv-luv and i like them. my love/hate for mla will live/die on how much of an asspull the ending is

>>562204397
i don't understand you point, it's literally how writing works, introducing stuff convienient for the plot. as long as in-universe rules aren't broken after being establish you have no right to complain about them

>>562204457
>Subahibi
ok i will put your opinion on a shelf and put majikoi on my backlog
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>>562200403
Why do people keep insisting that steins;gate has no message and cannot possibly mean anything? Did any of you read the VN? The whole story is about overcoming fate and rising above your limitations and what is said to be possible.
It's like the ubermensch story of vns. Maybe nobody here understands it because everyone in /vn/ is the complete opposite of that.
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>>562204597
MLA's ending isn't that much of an asspull other than how he somehow gets the energy back
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>>562204639
>It's like the ubermensch story of vns
trvkerino, beta soiboys can't grasp that
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disgusting subhuman gay trap ruined shit gate for me.
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>>562204597
>my love/hate for mla will live/die on how much of an asspull the ending is
Or maybe you will get disappointed by how bad it follows all the stuff that gets established in Unlimited(which is the peak of the vn). Anyways weird to make a decisive statement about a LONG vn that you've only begun. I might have to leave your fanclub after this fumble.
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>>562204597
>as long as in-universe rules aren't broken after being establish you have no right to complain about them
This can be easily accomplished by doing exactly what they did and not giving a comprehensive explanation of the "rules" in the first place. S;G really doesn't have well-defined rules for the attractor fields and junctions, so of course they're hard to break.
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>>562204845
it would've been better without xim that's for sure. also remove moeka while you are at it. and suzuka too
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>>562204867
>lists MLA as all a dream but not ray romano
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>>562204960
How come? The consequences in Utawarerumono does not disappear in the ending.
Characters who died stayed dead.
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>>562204918
>Anyways weird to make a decisive statement about a LONG vn that you've only begun
what decision? i played the first 6 hours and i loved then, and the copesensus is that extra is LE BAD which to me doesn't look like it

still, muv-luv is 3x longer than s;g, i'm pretty sure it has bloat so i doubt it can top s;g in terms of cohesiveness
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>>562205079
isnt that also the case in MLA?
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>>562204867
>s;g
that how i know to never listen to /vn/ shitposters
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>>562205195
I would have been without that shit harem ending
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Why didn't Takeru instantly get zipped back to his own timeline after the professor destroyed Sumika's brain when copying it?
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>>562204918
>Unlimited(which is the peak of the vn)
Truth nuke.
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>>562205289
the dream is the deus ex machina that goes back in time and erase all consequences
wouldn't make any difference if s;g events were all an Okabe's dream
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>>562205374
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>>562204639
>the ubermensch story of vns
>Steins;Gate
KEK the absolute state
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>>562202849
>why should we care about this kusoge from a literal who company
1. Kataoka Tomo
2. 1990s setting
3. Teasers look kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbY2xEpssh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McHU2pive0M
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>>562204867
technically fat morgan and fsn too
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Muv-Luv and Kiminozo have a great concept but insufferable writing
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>>562205514
>the dream is the deus ex machina that goes back in time and erase all consequences
that's literally not what happens tho?
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>>562205646
>Kataoka Tomo
ehhhhhhh
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>>562205089
>what decision?
That it's a coinflip between S;G and MLA for the best plot ever. There are many people that liked Extra just fine but disliked other parts of the vn
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>>562205747
Don't worry bro Nitroslop is way worse.
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>>562205814
What happens then?
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>>562205578
It would be nice if you read the post first instead of instantly turning your brain off.
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I'll be clear: oppai are good. I refuse to hear any arguments to the contrary.
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>>562205859
>coinflip between S;G and MLA for the best plot ever.
Maybe on planet retard.
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>>562206043
noppai is better
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>>562204639
>The whole story is about overcoming fate and rising above your limitations and what is said to be possible.
Then why is the resolution to Luka and Feris' predicament to give up on their changes entirely?
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>>562204639
>The whole story is about overcoming fate and rising above your limitations and what is said to be possible.
I know another story with these exact same themes.
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>>562206207
of course you do its one of the most common themes ever
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Where the fuck did those steintard turists come from? We always hated that pile of shit here.
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>>562206207
TTGL is the best one of that type, despite the generic message, it mogs s;g
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>>562205939
there's no dream, they don't erase anything, the consequences stay.
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>teasing 18+ 100 Line as an April Fools joke
bruh
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>>562206380
True
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>>562206381
ttgl doesn't mog s;g because it's 1/3 the runtime and too many fillers in the first half and too rushed second half

if it was a vn it would've been peak fiction tho
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>>562206424
What consequences? Everyone knows there is no dream. The world just goes back in time to the best timeline possible where everyone is happy and alive.
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>>562206380
I was always here midwitbro.
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You must have a negative IQ to like shit gate, lil bro.
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>>562206380
>We
meds

>>562206574
the world doesn't go back in time speedreader kun. and all worlines exist at the same time until the very end so they are all canon and real
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>>562206571
It doesn't mog s;g because they are extremely different and not because of the runtime. The 2nd half was a little rushed but it was a nice fit for the urgency of the plot, it should have been nice to have more sol episodes before that.
>if it was a vn it would've been peak fiction tho
Aren't there plenty of chuunige where they throw universes at each other?
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>>562206972
>Aren't there plenty of chuunige where they throw universes at each other?
as good as ttgl? name 3 and i'll unironically read them
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>>562206812
Yeah, sure.
Kek.
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>>562207114
Have you read Di, floodbro? It's not like GL but it has some nice fights.
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>>562207183
>another s;g hater outed for not understanding s;g's ending
KEK
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>>562207264
overrated
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>>562207264
after fate and masa i don't trust chuunige. also di requires paradise lost at the very least to read beforehand so that's on hold for now
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>>562207313
>another steinsgay defending the no consequences story for babies
You should read keyshit if you want something similar.
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Josou Sanmyaku > Steins;Gate
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>>562207515
Only one is brave enough to let you sex the trap
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>>562207483
>no consequences story
this claim has been deboonked by the steins;gang
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>>562205646
>Kataoka Tomo
Washed sellout who is irrelevant now(look at his more recent works)
>1990's setting
Why is this a selling point?
>teasers look kino
They look like your usual vn opening with a mixture of few second low detailed animation and real life footage
Teaser from the game has fancy QOL features and good music, but so what?
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is baldr sky a chuunige?
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>>562207632
Holy reddit
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>>562207830
No.
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>>562207632
Another victory for the labmems of /vn/
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>>562207468
But you liked both Masa and Fate, unless you are expecting everything to be a masterpiece you'll have a good time.
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>>562207690
90s setting means no zoomer heroines.
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>>562208057
i liked masa because of mc/philosophy. the chuuni parts were ok but still far from ttgl

fate's chuunishit was mostly cringe tho

i think i'll like DI but first i want to be life-changed by umineko and other kamige
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It feels weird to say this but I feel like I am discussing with the same fucking 20 people and it doesn't change even if I stay late to catch different timezones.
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>>562207690
>who is irrelevant now(look at his more recent works)
Broski, tons of so callled kamige writers are even more irrelevant now, doesn't stop /vn/ creaming pants over them.
>Why is this a selling point?
because it's soulful
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i know there's at least 1 anon who posts only during the 8 hours when i'm asleep and we never interacted
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>>562208040
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>>562208439
I think most people here a NEETs without a regular sleep shedule.
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>>562208294
It's definitely more than 20
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>>562208040
do they... uhm... you know... ????
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>>562207690
>yes this vn has all these good things BUT SO WHAT WHY SHOULD I LIKE IT
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oh no she's starting to get cured from being a schizo
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>>562208645
How many then?
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>>562208734
booo
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>>562208704
>He thinks those are good things
ahaha
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>>562208734
so, what is this ge about? it's just a moege about schizo heroine or there's more to it?
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>>562208704
This is me when a vn doesn't change my life. Like come on you fucking hacks this is what I paid for, give me the full experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *ROARS LIKE A LION*
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i could defeat makinasis and floodbro in a rap battle.
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>>562208894
there's nothing more to it the MC just helps the schizo personalities
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Die.
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>>562208894
What more do you need?
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>>562209217
Did you pirate or buy the game?
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>>562209305
Source? Gives huge Clannad vibes.
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>>562209329
no one here buys their games especially not at full 9000 yen price
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>>562209604
Yeah... I'd never do that haha
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Will reading Meditations help me understand Subahibi?
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>>562209768
All you need for Subahibi is 70 IQ
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>>562209604
The copy I got from sukebei didn't work no matter what I did. Whoever uploaded it on ryuugames fucked up the links
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We love shitting on shit gate here.
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Is "floodtroon"? (I dont keep up with namefags) correct for the sort by average meme?
Im really enjoying white album 2 rn and in the >>562204867 pic, most of those are pretty safe choices to pick up besides likes of baldr sky with ntrshit that im never picking up, that shit is for foids.
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oh no the plot coincidences at the beginning are starting to come together
>>562209952
you just go to AS and get the shitty shady crack as usual there's some other fag here reading it it just works
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>>562209993
Only during low IQ hours.
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>>562209942
Well I can walk and solve simple tasks so I guess I fit the requirments.
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>>562210042
If you're an average person
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>>562208667
He would never
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Sure, uminigger.
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>>562210042
>baldr sky with ntrshit
Just don't be dismally bad lol
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>>562209415
Man whose only VN was clannad:
>This is giving huge clannad vibes.
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>>562210349
>Man whose only VN was the best nankige to ever exist
Yes? I cried at Clannad so much that I didn't leave my room for 4 days. I had to do it eventually or my dad would have beaten the shit out of me.
>>
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>>562210554
Sissy ass nigga
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>>562210554
>my dad would have beaten the shit out of me.
You deserved it you sissy
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>>562210597
HFK
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>>562210612
>>562210726
Why are you like this? Spread kindness not hate.
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>>562210597
Steins;Gate 0 if not total dogshit
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I don't feel anything when reading VNs
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>>562210235
Why is that option there just comes off as cringe i dont even want to bother with it.
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>>562210936
You might have depression, anon...
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>>562210936
Start using an electric dildo. You'll feel things...
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>>562210963
To punish you for being shit. The stakes to save your waifu are much higher with the threat of imminent gang rape
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I just took a Steins;Gate
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>>562211075
And then when Kageaki says "Railgun Magatsu" he turns on his dildo
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>>562211181
Still such "stakes" only appeal to foids, there is other ways to go about it. But bugmen will be bugmen they just cant help themselves.
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>>562211181
Drawing the CG and making the VA voice it makes it cuckshit whether you see it or not
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uh oh, incel having a melty.
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>>562210554
Shitposting used to have more effort put into it
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>>562210832
Read chuunige and man up, faggot.
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>>562211663
only 14 year olds who read their first nakige cry at clannad lmao
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>>562211353
You sound like my cousin who says nigger every other sentence.
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I really feel like the MC should be able to connect the dots together at this point
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>>562212230
Your cousin sounds based
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>>562212583
>Racism is based
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>>562212583
It's actually extremely irritating.
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>>562211434
What if I told you that I was 100% honest?
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>>562212015
elaborate me about jun maeda critiques of aristotle in framework of clannad
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>>562212848
What does this have to do with how sad clannad is?
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>>562211434
>someone finishes a vn in the 2010s
>wow this was so powerful I stopped masturbating for months and I've been in constant depression(or whatever shit poeple were saying about clannad, little busters and katawa shoujo)
>if you say the same shit now you will be called a shitposter
What changed?
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Why the point of jops spamming their shit here?
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>>562213240
Attention
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>>562213240
because /jp/ goes into full /pol/ tier spergouts for a whole day whenever I try to discuss anything there
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>>562213238
Probably everybody in this general becoming an irony poisoned retard
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>>562210597
Steins;Gate if it was actually kamige like the fans claim it is
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>>562213238
>katawa shoujo
Now that's a true life-changing vn.
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since when type-shit became a zoomer slang?
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1774704236286838.mp4
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1775064697503710.mp4
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>>562213449
And how can I make me post look honest instead of ironic?
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ugh this is so hot
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>>562213436
Are you the guy that did not care for Grisaia and Majikoi and was very concerned about losing his oldfag cred?
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>>562213942
She just wants to biribiri, bro. What's wrong with a girl having a little fun?
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>>562213948
no? I'll admit I haven't read Majikoi
but it really is a regular occurrence over the years
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>>562213830
>broski
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>>562213942
My brain is expanding
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>>562213942
>censored
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>>562213942
kek i haven't seen this in years
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>>562214135
Onii-chan-kenobi is still pure kino. I bet the japs would appreciate that translations seeing as they are huge SW fags.
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>>562213121
the better your understanding the more immersed and emotional youll obviously get lofl
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>>562214135
Look how they butchered my imouto...
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>>562214390
We can distract from how bad Nine is by blaming the translation, right? Surely it was so much better in Japanese.
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>>562214219
Why are zoomers obsessed with this kusoge all of a sudden?
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It's up.
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>>562213238
Katawa shoujo was competently written by people who seem like they have been in relationships before. Was it a tear jerker? No not really as it had it's flaws to be truly compelling. Even when I first read it as a young teen there weren't any moments that made me feel bad or tear up. Hanakos bad end was probably the only thing that really stood out to me cause it accurately portrayed overstepping boundaries on sensitive subjects and how quickly it can escalate to a fight/break up. All the characters read as more natural and more compelling than anything in clannad(highly exaggerated walking tropes with a splashed in key special generic tragic backstory).
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>>562214601
dunno
zoomers suddenly start liking subahibi, totono and saya no uta
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>>562214601
I think it's been pretty popular with that crowd since it got translated. They love meta fiction.
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>>562214357
can't tell if you're trolling or being for real
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>>562210554
Based. It's a special experience.
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>>562214642
all-ages btw
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>>562215023
why does he cock tease us like this, just make it an eroge ffs
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>>562215023
wew
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>>562214687
>Hanakos bad end was probably the only thing that really stood out to me cause it accurately portrayed overstepping boundaries on sensitive subjects and how quickly it can escalate to a fight/break up
Writer made Hisao OOC retard in this route and ending thoughever
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>>562215023
How is he this based?
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>>562210042
i explained this tons of times, you WON'T like everything in the top 50, probably less than half, but out that half they will be more or less in order of subjective KINO feel.

which ones depends on taste and it's really hard identifying them a priori, that's what i'm working on
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>>562214687
>>562213238
the only good part of katawa shitjo was kenji
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>>562213942
>he left out cum eating part
How can anyone take totonocucks seriously.
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>>562215562
>AC unit isn't kud blowing the air out
weak
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>>562215137
Not really? It's a touchy subject for her and not letting lilly handle it blows up in your face. Hisao is still relatively a random person(a dude especially) to hanako unlike lilly who is her confidant
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>>562215023
>no armpit hair
FUCKING DROPPING, REFUNDING THE OG
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>>562212652
It's another truth that is suppressed by mainstream culture.
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>>562215665
>ending entire relationship because he brought up a touchy subject
certified bacon woman moment
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>>562214605
Ami Koshimizu voiced her really well. I assume she was the most expensive VA of the cast,which I thought is why they killed her off quickly, but no, she has a lot of time to shine and is really likable.
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Kawata shoujo is not voiced and multipe? Heroines are used goods, yeah thanks no thanks i had my fill on used goods irl.
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>>562214642
Looks kino.
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>>562215837
>Ignores the part where hisao autistically doesn't get the hint and keeps pressing the issue despite multiple warnings
>Ignores the part her deformity serves as a constant reminder of her past and constant source of anguish and self esteem issues in a society where the primary worth of women is in their physical appearance
Maybe she overreacted, maybe she didn't
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>>562216052
only 1 is used goods
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>>562215562
Sex with little kud
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>>562216374
Who?
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>>562215283
>>562215023
I mean at that point might as well make it an eroge cause ain't no way this shits gonna be allowed on console. 100% will need to make a patch for steam. He'd 100% make a lot more money making it an eroge with an all ages version
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>>562216374
Toleratale enough if its only one ig, maybe i will give it another shot 10 years later.
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>>562216428
emi____
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>>562206429
This is how you get mail bombs sent to you, Kodaka-chan
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>>562216513
By that logic so are Rin and Shizune
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>>562215562
Is this your room ロリコン-san?
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>>562216623
by what logic? one literally says that she had a bf, nobody else does that
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>got our vndb april fools early this year
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>>562216513
There was nothing to suggest she wasn't a virgin
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>>562216793
she gave you anal virginity for a reason....

and regardless she had the bf for like 2 years afaik, no way they haven't at least kissed
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>>562216793
She dated some sterotypical jock, comes off as cuckshit even no matter how you look at it. No ACTAUL vn reader wants such realism in their ges.
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>>562215572
You weren't here back then my dude.
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>>562215665
>Not really?
He was never this pushy in other routes, except maybe Emi, but they were in a relationship, it was a lot more justified
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>>562217030
>2012
i was but on another board that i won't name for plausible deniability
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>>562215926
I like when she just brazenly lies during a trial about collecting fingerprints to help you win your argument
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>>562216441
Wrong. The vast majority of otaku enjoys fanservice and ecchi/erotic content, but doesn't want to click through repetitive h-scenes.
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>>562216762
That doesn't mean she fucked him. They broke up pretty quickly
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>used goods loli
now that a heroine type you don't see often
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>>562216670
>Is this your room ロリコン-san?
https://x.com/i/status/2039160874007761018
It's from the prominent Kud fan artist. My room is much more boring in comparison
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>>562217229
Maybe otakus in reddit.
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>>562217176
I don't genuinely have the time and effort to search for your writing patterns, which you have probably changed over time , so you can just name it. Was it /jp/?
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>>562217390
What a shame.
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>>562217304
if that cope helps you sleep at night then ok
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>>562217229
lmao there is no way you unironically believe that
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kudschizo in the house tonight
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>>562217659
He's right behind me isn't he?
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>>562217364
What are you even talking about
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>>562217574
I would sleep better at night if we shared the bed to be honest
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>>562217519
/m*p/
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>>562217392
nah the lack of H-scenes for a work that warrants it is a deal breaker for majority of redditors on vn. Hentai doujins existing and being popular is further proof of the contrary of otakus being content with middle school tier fan service
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>>562217913
eww a bronyfag
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>>562217220
>at first she seems like a cool and capable leader and one of the most levelheaded girls
>then you realize she’s just a dork who wants to feel like the main character
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>>562218063
i'm proud of never revealing my power level, it was a good time

fallout equestria is still my favourite book
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>>562217571
My Key wife is someone else anyways
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>>562217392
>>562217615
So mad you replied twice?
There's a reason why hentai popularity is at an all-time high while eroge sell as badly as ever.
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>>562218360
Schizo.
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>>562218332
Clannad remake with good art when
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>>562216789
The word "providence" doesn't fit there. It seems like they were trying to force a religious word for her there and just used one which doesn't make sense.
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>>562218332
upside-down murasame
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>>562218332
Based.
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>>562218456
need a good writer as well
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>>562218456
They should get Koku for it
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>>562218360
Nice self own. You claimed that most otakus only want fan service then turn around and cite that hentai(doujins) are very popular. Eroge sells badly mainly cause of price, time commitment and lack of willing talent. There's also the big elephant in the room you forgot to address, payment processors and government censorship. Despite that companies like yuzusoft, qruppo and sister position are doing just fine. They'd be doing a hell of a lot better if it weren't for the retarded double standards being enforced on erotic content
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>>562217805
Anons were talking about Emi from KS, and I thought about how she is rare example of used goods loli in non-nukige
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why would you identify as otaku
that shit is cringe
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>>562217913
Was it life changing?
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>>562218924
ATRI GET THE FUCK DOWN!
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>>562218867
>You claimed that most otakus only want fan service
Can't even read, tard. I said that "The vast majority of otaku enjoys fanservice and ecchi/erotic content".
Erotic content includes hentai and 18+ doujin.
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>>562219054
Yes i forgot that ecchi/erotic anime/manga showed full blown hentai. Stop trying to backpedal
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>>562219001
kinda, i understood that peak fiction needs to have at least 1m works and at least 1 sex scene to be peak fiction. also it was one of the few times in my life where i couldn't put down a book
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>>562218332
Based
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>>562219185
>works
words
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>>562219345
we made em up
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>>562219175
I never specified anime or manga, tard, but explicitly wrote "erotic content".
Stop trying to backpedal.
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>>562219185
>at least 1 sex scene to be peak fiction
S;G doesn't have that and it's still kino of the highest order.
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Bro it all doesn't matter. No need to fight over VNs.
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>>562219601
exactly, but that also means it could be improved, that's why i'm betting on muv-luv
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>>562219642
Fights cull the weak.
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>>562219505
You know damn well colloquially erotic/ecchi means "toes the line just enough to not be considered porn/hentai/r18"
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Is the Subahibi Larpocalypse over yet?
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>>562219734
Internet fights are not real fights.
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Someone make a new thread please.
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>>562219642
>No need to fight over VNs
That's right, do not engage with OneFaggotArmy.
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>>562193324
Who reported my post... I put so much effort into it....
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I hate VNs
There I said it
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>WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO READ!!!

Rance X -Kessen-
STEINS;GATE
Muv-Luv Alternative
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru
Fata Morgana no Yakata
Soukou Akki Muramasa
WHITE ALBUM2
Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Subarashiki Hibi ~Furenzoku Sonzai~
CLANNAD
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai
Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro
Tsukihime -A piece of blue glass moon-
Hentai Prison
Sekai Metsubou Kyouyuu Gensou MAMIYA - DoomsDay Dreams
Fate/stay night
Little Busters!
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Ever17 -the out of infinity-
Rewrite
Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Summer Pockets
9-nine- Yukiiro Yukihana Yukinoato
BALDR SKY Dive2 "RECORDARE"
Fata Morgana no Yakata -Another Episodes-
Hakuchuumu no Aojashin
Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm - EXTRA2
Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2 -Naruhodou Ryuunosuke no Kakugo-
Kara no Shoujo - The Last Episode
SeaBed
Silver Jiken 25 Ku
Irotoridori no Hikari
Monmusu Quest! Paradox RPG Chuushou
Sakura Taisen 2 ~Kimi, Shinitamou koto Nakare~
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>
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>>562220138
All mid
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>>562220138
Nobody said that they were all just arguing about stein's gate the entire fucking thread
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>>562220119
i liked it, please repost it in the next thread

>>562220212
TRVKE
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>>562220119
Thank you for putting me in it, I feel like I finally made it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRsIqr6vXhA
kino theme
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>floodpro is a brony
Extremely shit plottwist.
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>>562220119
Jannies hate redman
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>>562220138
>Rance X -Kessen-
>[overrated slop]
>Soukou Akki Muramasa
All that you need.
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>>562220531
>Rance and ntrslop
No.
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>>562220380
Literally Liebestraum no. 3
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>>562220505
>is
i dropped after the twipocalypse in season 3
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Mumbai;Gate
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>>562220505
you just know he's gonna troon out soon
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In 2012 I was 7 and watched Stampylonghead on Youtube.
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>>562220619
Steins;Jeets, our response?
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>>562220668
it's been 15 years and i still have a cock. only umineko can troon me out now
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>>562220138
Shigatsu Youka
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>>562220619
>>562220750
https://youtu.be/rPEqHKe2CiA
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>>562220694
Holy fucking zoom zoom
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>>562220575
kino every time
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>>562220795
i removed untroonslated stuff (though missed rance x)

if you are a jop then
Rance X -Kessen-
Sakura no Uta -Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau-
Sakura no Toki -Sakura no Mori no Shita o Ayumu-
Sakura, Moyu. -as the Night's, Reincarnation-
Amakano 2+
BLACK SHEEP TOWN
Saihate no Ima
Ore-tachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
Mama×Holic ~Miwaku no Mama to Ama Ama Kankei~
Kitto, Sumiwataru Asairo Yori mo,
Motto! Haramase! Honoo no Oppai Isekai Oppai Maid Gakuen!
Sengoku † Koihime ~Otome Kenran Sengoku Emaki~
Bunny's Mama Daikou Service
Motto! Haramase! Honoo no Oppai Isekai Oppai Bunny Gakuen!

shigatsu youka is a lil bit below my memelines but might as well be must read too, yeah
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>>562219895
They are superior to real fights.
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>>562221030
4chan fights are peak comedy. Nothing will ever top it
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>>562221001
>Kitto, Sumiwataru Asairo Yori mo,
A guy from Africa translated the whole vn on YouTube but somehow never released a tl patch, even though he said he would
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ancient greek philosopher would've been proud of 4chan's shitflingings
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MOVE
>>562167181
>>562167181
>>562167181
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>>562219895
Punching are not real fights either, only slaves punch. Real fighters use whatever tools possible from spears/throw axes to guns, real fighters doesnt do any of honarable bullshit and ambush their prey, like think about it does a lion think about 1 v 1 a bear without his claws and fangs while obeying some man made rules? Hell no.

Tism rant over.
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>>562221441
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MOVE
>>562221416
>>562221416
>>562221416
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>>562221441
April fools?
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>>562221441
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>562221441
KEKOOLA
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REAL THREAD
>>562221836
>>562221836
>>562221836
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>>562221874
kys pdf
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>>562221603
Based
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>>562221874
kino tradition
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/424276364/#q424276364
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>>562221603
>>562221874
This thread was actually numbered incorrectly following the previous one so the correct new thread number should be #7513 which neither of these are making both threads invalid.
I WILL be waiting for a proper thread to be made.
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Move:
>>562222574
>>562222574
>>562222574
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>>562218456

Kanon remake with good art when
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3 fucking threads, you fags need to be decapitated.
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>>562223335
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steins shit lost
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>>562223335
We'te so back
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>>562223568
Not that impressive when 6 of them are just Karenbot malfunctioning.
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I blame page 8 schizo for taking a fat unko on our thread culture.
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>>562225008
this
faggot jop needs to get raped
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uminegro lost
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Wrap this threadwar up already, I want to blogpost.
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so I've been playing this muramasa ge, and why the hell does everyone else (even black people) get to have sex with the main girls, but not the MC? this sucks.
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I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
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Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
And Chihaya is pretty nice, too.



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