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Event good.Russia bad.
nigger game
catch my vikhr...
Have bongaloids started seething about the vulcan not being added yet?
>>562230910
Damn they actually made a good mode
>>562231403By literally stealing from a better game.
>>562231567>better game.not anymore KEKKITY
>>562231567why are you here?
>>562231403>theylolIt's pretty fun-ish but it still has all the snore blunder balancing bullshit, I hope we get it as a permanent mode >tho
>It's just EC but with puddles of instant death SAMs>And also an auto win/lose conditionThis isn't fun
how am i supposed to get points in this event? i don't have any bombs
>>562231757to laugh at you
>>562231086excuse my retardation, but how do I use small/medium nuke? I only did PvP so far, the only thing costing SP I can see in the 2500 SP buff/bear
>>562231854shoot down players
>>562231854kill people until you get enough SP for nukes
>>562231889The loadouts with nukes have an SP cost. The MiG-23MLD and F-4E can get 250 SP small nukes, the Su-24M and F-4E (again) can get the 500 SP medium one.
>>562231854what planes do you have?
>>562231880sure you are
>>562231972>>562231924what's the best missile to use? i only have the stock ones for all planes
>>562232007Ah, thanks. No way to use those nukes on tech tree planes, right? Even if I bring my own F-4E or MLD?>>562232071what nation?
>>562232172>No way to use those nukes on tech tree planes, right? Even if I bring my own F-4E or MLD?None. The ones you get for free are, technically, new, different vehicles, that's why they have these loadouts and why the free F-4E get 9Ls.
>>562232172ussr
>>562231403It is a VERY good mode. It could literally fix ARB>kino belkan F-15 with 2 nukes in background
>>562232292Ah, that's a bit of a shame. Neat they're giving the free F-4E 9Ls I suppose, but it's still food.>>562232336The MiG-23 MLD should have a loadout with 2 R-24Rs and four R-60Ms. The R-60Ms won't be that much use, the R24Rs are pretty alright. The MTI radar is good (to make use of it what you're shooting needs to be below you), but to use it you need to leave multipathing altitude, so probably not worth it. Haven't seen many enemies chaff anyways.
kek
>>562231403Maybe if the AI AA wasn't so cancer to deal with yeah
>>562232071for the F-4E take the 4xAim9L 4xAim7E2 for the Mig-23ML take the 4xR60M 2xR24T
Damn I feel retarded because I see people hating this mode but I find it really fun
Why are mutts like this?
>>562232810>2xR24TLolwut? They don't have IRCCM and are easily flared, the R-24Rs are the actually good and reliable ones that force the enemy to notch or die.
>>562232939they dont flare lol
>everyone is just doing us and not russiai just wanted the b52 but since its not letting me into a game ill have to pass on this one
>>562232995people are exaggerating about queue timesyeah you can get insta games as soviets but US wait time is not that badlike 3-4 mins and you got a game
>>562232879The ones hating on it are the retarded ones, it's a genuinely fantastic foundation that fixes EVERYTHING wrong with ARB, like literally my every gripe with the mode is absent in this (balancing aside, naturally, but that's not a fault of the mode).
>>562232879It's litterally just people that are filtered by Gen 3+ aircraft
>strategic bombers>no H-6too badwell at least i'm having fun
>>562233114Cool Tu-16.
>>562232879It's the retards that didn't reach late tier jets that have no idea how radar missle workI am getting 30-40k RP per game this is fucking fantastic, I don't even carea bout the b52/tu95 I am using this event to grind entire soviet/US top tier while the event lasts
>562233212funny gweilo, please seethe some more
>>562233342Gweilo can you not add one more >?
>>562232879My main complaint is how obnoxious the ground AA is
>>562233449kek
>>562233217well, to be fair, flying some half spaded F-4E/MiG-23MLD against F-15A/F-14 IRIAF/F-18A/MiG-29/Yak-141 isn't exactly fun. But 80% of the match seems to be the free lineup planes so far, so as long as you have a reasonable grasp on how to fly at this BR it should be workable.
562233342
>>562233518KEEEEEEK
>>562233469It is pretty annoying, yeah. But at least it can be taken out fairly easily. I kinda like that it starts out very strong and then degrades heavily once your teammates start chipping away at it.
I like that I can fuck off to a corner of the map and just lawnmow with Su-25. The SEAD missiles are neat for killing Flakrads, shame the fucking Gepards are apparently operated by computerized Germans and thus don't use radar or anything.
>>562233495I am shredding everything with spaded F/A-18A and mig-29 9-13 depending on which side I amI am having tons of fun probably becasue a lot of people that are playing this do not play top tier and have no idea how to deal with missles.Sometimes I get enemies that are somewhat decent but I've yet to have a game where I'm strugglingI often get games where peolpe try to fucking head on me from 10-15km away while I'm blasting them with AIM-7/R-27, I'm guessing it's some propfags that have yet to learn how radar missles work
Where do you disable flares auto dumping on the Su-24?
>>562233736countermeasures slaving to maw
>>562233693>probably becasue a lot of people that are playing this do not play top tier and have no idea how to deal with missles.that's the only reason most of you are having funyou like it because you can slaughter people that don't know what they are doing, everything else is secondary
>>562232879only retards could hate this mode compared to classic ARB at the same BRThe mode is a GREAT step in the right direction>CAS is useful>Bombers have their missions>All the PvP you want with the SL respawnsIt's the best they could have done
>>562233736controls->aircraft->MAW slaving (uoohhh, bad word detected)>>562233693Yeah, most of the people seem to have no clue. I used the F-14 IRIAF and MiG-29 9-13 too, but both of those are still stock for me. Still had a great time. Unlocked the Fakours just now, and almost have the ERs for the MiG-29, so the next two tasks should be even easier. Well maybe not, maybe people wisen up to how to play this.
i have no idea what im doing here. i am going back to world war 2
>>562233880>you like it because you can slaughter people that don't know what they are doingyeah and?
>>562233936I think if this was a "normal" air mode CAS would get shafted just like it does in ARB. It only gets through right now because 2/3rds of the players don't know what they're doing and are flying non meta shitsleds.
>>562233880Absolutely incorrect, I'm not even doing much PvP at all. I'm enjoying this because>it feels like an actual battlefield where stuff happens without players explicitly doing anything rather than an arena for PvP>there's more stuff to do than just PvP and nothing else because you aren't being a burden for your team while doing that other non-PvP stuff>dying is a mildly annoying minor setback rather than a game over and a major frustration point>even the PvP is far more enjoyable (people are spread out so engagements are small and manageable rather than complete and utter clusterfucks)
>>562234025>the raped unc leaves
>>562233061Ok I will wait and see if its only five minutes but looking at this I doubt I will be doing anything soon
>>562234505when's the last time you actually did anything in a plane instead of your plane doing it for you, zoom zoom? >fly on the deck, press a few buttons, push up your glasses on your nose, HEH NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID, while your missiles do all the work
this is gay nigger trash. i am going to go watch the artemis rocket launch instead
>>562234626>fly on the deck, press a few buttonskek, this was too hard for you apparently
>>562234626>too retarded to press a buttonis this really something to be proud of unc
>>562234107I dunno, there are so many ground units to hit and the people are actually disperse. Even in a "normal" setup (and we'll see in the last days of the event) CAS could still do its things by spawning to the farthest airport, meanwhile the PvP zoomies would still furball at the center, or the other pvp enthusiasts that don't go in the furball would still engage in their epic 1v1 jousts.Surely cas would be more useful than in the current ARB tho
how do i use the mig-25 in the event?
>>562234729>>562234913it's not even the same game zoomzooms>start out in reserves and 1.0 props>everything from there on out is a gradual increase in speed, energy, firepower, etc. until you hit jets>more or less the same continuation except now the way you generate energy is a little different, things shift more towards speed on average, dogfights get more vertical>missiles are introduced at about 8.3, aim9bs, simple things that only work from the rear and only on slow/unawares targets, really just a range extension for your guns>get tossed up from 9.0 to 11.7 or whatever this is>suddenly every single little thing you've learned is now completely worthless>altitude is a bad thing now>dogfighting is nearly impossible because you'll just eat a 30g missile from 10km away if you go slow enough to actually fight and maneuver >your gun is an accessory, almost all high tier gameplay footage i see with gun kills are headons or against level 10s who bought a premium and then prophanged themselves>your keybinds have doubled or even tripled>multiple new systems for CAS (the tutorials for them don't even work)and in this game mode>ground targets are now absolute slingers of death instead of free points
>Radar AA flickergoons and sends anti-rad missiles wild all the time>Intercepts all missiles and guided bombs>Literally the only best way to take them out is high speed drive bysWhy
>>562235293>Surely cas would be more useful than in the current ARB thoOh, absolutely, but I'd wager it will get a bit worse as the inexperienced players drop out.>>562235439climb a bit (but not too much, or you get shafted by SAMs), flank, murder people going for the furball. not the most time effective way to play, but it works
>>562235496again>too retarded to press a buttonlmao
>>562235496>it's not even the same game zoomzoomsindeed, know your place, sealclubbing trxsh
>moderniggers think they tuff try that in a real gun fight, sissies!
i experimented with destroying the enemy's forward spawn airfield but it just makes your team lose because now the enemies spawn further back and spread out more so you get nuked instead of entire enemy team being rape funneled
>>562235496You're right, and the game could really use some sort of functional tutorial to ease people throug that harsh transition. The same is true for ground pounding, to some extent, a good chunk of people have no clue how their weaponry suites work and what their limitations are.>Surely cas would be more useful than in the current ARB tho>>ground targets are now absolute slingers of death instead of free pointsThat is, however, true for everyone. It doesn't even translate well for people that are experienced at flying in GRB. It's pretty easy to learn how to deal with it, though.
>>562234626Unlike you, I know how to defeat the incoming missiles
>>562235496Skill issue, you're just a dumb retard. Stick to props unc, cool jet bombers are not for you.
>>562235591>>562235856>>562235914post sub rank 7 plane K/Ds
>>562236050I bought many jet prems to avoid touching the boring stuff
>>562232879this shit is actually lit
I had tons of fun playing the event as US.I have zero fun playing it as Russia.
>>562235914>he lands to rearmThis mode doesn't count for your K/D, anon. Murder two people with the R-27ERs, sling your R-73s out to people that have no key bound to use flares and then do the honorable (and time efficient thing) and gun down some FlakPz
>>562236050
>>562236050>I am too dumb to learn new game mechanics so I will blame literally everything but admit I'm badI guess having to press more buttons than just landing gear and flaps is too much for a sub 80 iq prop mongolid
>Just fly treetop level bro>OSA tracks just finecool
i like this mode, it's like if DCS was fun
>>562236576Just like the Marder Roland that uses IRST to track and command guidance to control the missile. Multipathing has no effect on it.
>>562236706DCS is fun if you make custom missions and play with friends
>>562236706>it's like if DCS was funYou don't like going through the 30 page engine startup guide before being able to take off? Are you even a real autist?
>>562236778So who exactly thought putting multiple overlapping death bubbles was fun and engaging gameplay?
>>562236970I only got fucked by them when pressed into a dogfight, otherwise dodging them was easy. They're also easy to strafe. So a bit annoying, I guess, but no problem once you account for them.
the only mutt high tier prem I have is the night attack, how do I min max to grind for this event? use the laser rockets for SEAD? please advise
This is the easiset and most fun event in years. Reminds me of the first april fools with modern stuff with 2a7 and t90m
its easy for you guys because you are sweaty neets who can play the game for 10 days straight
>>562237272the fuck is a "night attack"?
The only bad thing I have to say about this event is that you can't use boosters.
Anyone know how many S-300/Patriot sites there are per map? I've been focusing them and it seems to be only a couple.
>>562236532i'm sure you learned everything about top tier overnight zoom zoom, sure you didn't watch hours of videos too
>su-34 not allowed>su-27 not allowedfuck you why not
>>562236497owned nigger
>>562232879You are retarded, but it's because you think a vocal minority (one guy here) represents anyone.
>>562237974probably unironically overwhelming armament))))))
>>562237272Use targeting pod and shit out all your gps bombs or use mavericks on moving targets
>>562237974>fuck you why notEven now with the totally gimped USSR team and the fact that there are 700 in queue for USA an 13 in queue for USSR, USSR wins 90% of the timeThe US teams cannot face a Su-27. Most of those ""players"" are ground kiddies that are on the hype train for the B52. It would be a total slaughter
I kinda want a Mig-23 now, I'm enjoying it
Kek, Why are all the kike tube faggots keep saying this event is hard? I literally nuked 3 bases on both nations.>>562238334I raped the mutt teams with the basic bitch mig 29 with r73s.
>>562237943Can you kill yourself? This is just embarassing how you can't take LYou are shit at the game and are too stupid to learn new things so you try to cope and blame others.
>>562238476>newfag thinks his opinion matters
>>562238642>so bad and stupid he resorts to shitpostingSorry can't hear you, I'm crusing in my B52 at high alt lmao
>>562238334>USSR wins 90% of the timeafter playing some dozens of games and winning half by nuking the enemy airfield, i actually figured out the reasons for this#1:>the US usually nukes the USSR's forward airfield, since its planes are much strongerthis causes russia's players to spawn further back and spread out more, while US players remain in the forward base death funnel. so they do better after that. also USSR has better radar missiles (ERs mainly)#2 (the big reason:)>the 2500SP tu-95 spawns going a lot faster than the B-52H (even though b-52 has higher topspeed)so it gets to the base, which it spawns right next to, a lot faster, and ends the game
>>562238476>shitting on props>2015lol
>>562238476>2015fuck off newfag
>>562238880please refer to >>562238760
samefagging lol
I have no fucking idea what is even going on.
>>562238339Same I might start grinding USSR Air
>>562239008see>>562238642
>>562239085proptranny got mad so he's samefagging
>>562237849Can confirm that there's only 2 S-300 sites, if you low level them early you can spacebomb with impunity, take the BUKs next and you're free to do almost anything.
>>562239085start here >>562234505
>shoot missile >SAM takes out target right before I canThey put way too SAMs in this event and Ive had my target taken out a few times now to the point its getting annoying
What to do with the 30kt nuke if all the bases are gone
>>562235525In a world where people weren't mouth-breathing troglodytes, they would coordinate and saturate single targets with missiles.
>>562237985fite me
>>562239402chuck it at a long-range SAM cluster
>>562238829I spawned both the B-52 and Tu-95, and not only was no one close to, it was after 40+ minute matches, and the time difference to the base seems minuscule. This can't make a difference.
>>562238476>shit at the game because i can't learn all the new top tier mechanics in a few hours>you've been playing for over a decade>this somehow proves YOUR point
>>562239616in a game where both teams have someone with 2500sp when tier 3 nukes are unlocked (which both teams WILL have unless theyre all newbies) the tu-95 gets there first every single time
>>562239718There's a time limit after which the 2500 SP nuke unlocks? I thought you could drop it whenever you get the SP, nevermind then.
I haven't died to AA in a way that I thought I didn't deserve but I've got clipped like twice by random Bradleys while going past at mach.
By far the gayest april fool'sDoing it only for the Tu
>>562238476unc, i'm more unc than you and still love jets and i'm even good with themam i the cool unc?
>>562239676>see blip on radar>press one (1) key to have radar lock>fire missle>this is somehow too hard for propfags
>>562240261keeeeek
So, this has probably been asked to death, but what the fuck do I do do against literal clouds of Phoenixes/Fakours? And why the fuck am I fighting against an F-15, but can't use even the most basic bitch Su-27?
>>562238234the osas nab those though, which is why I supposed the laser guided rockets might be useful for a first spawn at least, but I dont have any experience with them
>>562240642the Su-27 is op
>>562237849>>562239194any clue how to find them?
>>562240642>what dodefensive circle, notch, multipath (effectiveness order)>why no su27see>>562238334
>>562239967I died to one once, but I took a head on with it. Still didn't expect it to shoot me, lol
Why are teams full of mig-23s winning against teams full of f-14s and f-15s?
>Was probably a retarded idea to force everyone into near top-tier jets for an event like this>Very questionable choice to give the mutts fox 3 capable planes while snowmutts don't get anything>Only US/RU even though you could have easily assigned other nations to filling the event rewards>Game mode itself is a little more fun than ARB thanks to respawns>Still basically a TDM>Still contending with the esoteric bullshit of MissileThunder>Overtuned AA makes everything that isn't a lawndart on rockets completely nonviable for CAS>Even then odds are good you're dying to an AA before you die to a player>Anti-Radiation missiles basically useless>Nukes lose their luster pretty quick and just start becoming annoying>Get to suffer through the GRB issue of an otherwise good match getting shunted into an auto win/lose midway throughThe event itself is absolutely handled with the typical Gaijin retardation. The mode itself is fine, I guess? The fact most of the tech tree is still basically useless in this permutation of it just sorta proves the devs are beyond help.6/10, could be better with some tweaking (we are never seeing this again)
>>562241238russian skill
>>562241238Mutt teams are that incompetent.
>>562241238it's the prophecy
>>562240821Pop up, look for the S-300 ping on RWR, get back to cover and aim for it at tree top level. I don't think they move match to match so you can just remember them.
>>562241238form>function
>>562241238Trying to get the USA medal now it's actually amazing how people spawning f-14s and f-15s are losing to mig 23s, no wonder the mutts are mad at this event
>save amerimutt from yak-9 about to obliterate his ass in a head on and kill it>starts loses his shit saying i stole hit kill>spends prob 5 minutes trying to ram me cuz he's out of ammo>i give his wing the slightest tap and it snaps off>raging in chat for the rest of the matchwhy are burgerniggers like this
ECM mods that add survivability and raise BR to certain planes when?
No way they're going to keep the SL/RP multiplier for the durration of Event. Surely they will nerf gains in the coming hours/days
f4e loses to the mig23? or are we that dogshit
>>562241238The US planes tend to be flown by US players
>>562241250maybe you are just incredibly jaded
To all of the amerigolems flying A-10s/A-6s/A-7s at high altitude, thanks for the free kills.
>>562242484god I hope not, there's like four planes I'd like to spade in the mode.
personaly I am using F18A for the US grind and it shredsI already got a star so I'll try F-15A for the next one when it drops
I think Pradesh is the best map.
>>562242662I am pretty tired of thinking I'll be able to have fun with something like an A-7 only for everything to work against it, yes.
haven't played war thunder in a couple years but this mode sounds fun. worth coming back to if all i have is the free planes they let you play with or will i just get farmed? don't even really care about the bombers just want to try it out
>Amerifats gets access to Aim9ms, AIM-54, Farkours, Aim-7ms on their F-14/15/18s.>Still manages to lose against first gen mig 29s, SU-25, Mig 23s and Su24 fencers KEKYPOW!
>>562242765this
>>562242946The F-18 is great, but I feel like the top speed lets it down
>get that white cuck fortress at last>same caged micromap but flattenedseems even smaller than i remember
this thing is nuts
>>562242957I think Fulda Gap is the best map
>>562241238You know all that shitposting about how American pilots are completely and irdeemably dogshit? We weren't shitposting.
>>562243456EWWWW
>>562243251Worth giving it a shot. There are far better tech tree planes, but most people seem to be using the free lineups, and it's the free lineup planes that get the nuke anways. If you somewhat know how to fly an F-4E or, ideally MiG-23MLD there's plenty of fun to be had.
>>562243424still very good, was even more fun before it was uptiered
>>562241250Relax shitter, nobody cares what you have to say, you don't have to keep repeating the same thing a hundred times.
kinda wack that they give the F-4E aim-9Ls wtf is up with that
you're going to wake up tomorrow and all the 13.0 seal clubbing planes are going to be blacklisted :(
>>562243709>Everyone who found the same issues is the same personok
>>562242484With my luck probably yes. I'm stuck at work for 4 days in a row, which leaves only a couple hours each day to play. Don't know if I'll even be able to get both planes.
>>562243748probably to balance out the offensive capabilities at least somewhat, since the radar sucks so hard
I had a lot of fun using the mig 23 to nuke the air bases and depots.
>>562243948You've been posting the same shit all day. You don't need to pretend.
>>562244236>anybody who doesn't love notchslop is the same personlmao
>>562244236Calm down you hypersperg I don't even think the idea of the mode is bad. Just handled badly
>they didn't license the perfect song and let it play at 200% for the entire matchmissed chancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKRkAEjjhpE
>slopfleet
>>562240876I mean yea, I do all that, except for the fact that it's literally a never ending stream of them, and I'd like to shoot back at some pointPerhaps I just got a shit lobby stacked with F-14sBut I got my task done, not dealing with this till the 3rd
>hmm today i will create loadouts and not give you useful air to air ordnance with the pity nukeAnton? Are you brown?
>>562240642Do you have the MiG-29?
>>562231403Yeah, I'm loving it. Any tips for the HARM missiles?
>>562244981Don't bother. Not only can one AA solo several full loads, they just flick their radars on and off rapidly and send the missiles spiraling because they didn't model them tracking to the last known lock
>mutt teamates keep teamkilling each other
>>562244981>>562245114Hey, BVVD told us that the HARMs would suck compared to all the other ordinance we have in game
>>562245114yeah but once they turn off their radar, Hawks stop shooting, so that's cool
>>562244289I can tell you're the proptranny who thinks joining in 2015 means something, that argued with those other two dudes last thread.>>562244425It's actually handled pretty good given their other attempt at a new game mode (ww). I'm very happy with it personally.
>>562245504Actually the AI can still fully track you without radar
>forced to pick between a slow as shit strike aircraft or a mig 23 to be bullied either way by sparrows while dodging SAMsis this why no one is playing russia?
>>562232879I think it is kino, but I think this should have been a proper mode or event, not just an april's fools joke
>>562245626>>562241238
>lock detected>activate the lag switch
>>562232995I definitely feel the queue count is lyingit says like 6 gorillion US and -6 USSR yet matches start right away
>watch youtuber play>constantly scores hits with one missile launch, nobody evades, nobody knows what chaff is>i play>everybody maneuvering, shitting out chaff, counterlaunching their own missiles
Why don't the b-52 radars work?
>>562245626An F-4E without PD or MTI isn't that great to fly either, let me tell you that.
remember to be the problem
>>562245880too dangerous to turn on with all the HARMs around
>>562237974mutts are already getting raped by Mig-29s, imagine a Su-27 with full 27ER load nowkek there were even a few earlier here crying about Mig-25s
>>562245626>queue>3 russia>549 usabut the retards told me russia was overpowered at all modes and brs!!
>>562246024I would, had I been around 10 fucking years ago to buy these things. It's absurdly unfair that you can't catch up to people that started this game earlier since they get a now unavailable forest to glue to their tank.
>>562240642the same thing you do against Phoenixes/Fakours in ARB? hello?
>>562244601>singlehandedly bomb every base and menage to sneak in a nuke on their main one right as tu95 drops his juicy payload
>Only the US vs Russia>Flankers are banned while US teams can spam Phoenixes and Fakours>AI Osa-AKM/Rolands will rape everything while S300s, BUKs, HAWKs, and Patriots are impotent >Anti-radiation missiles are instantly intercepted by AI AA as soon as they get within range>It's literally just what air RB should be but as a limited time April Fools joke>Free planes are completely blind compared to 13.0 aircraft (MIG-23 and F-4Es lmfao)They've been phoning it in for the last 2 years but this definitely takes the cake for the laziest event yet.
>>562241250>>Still contending with the esoteric bullshit of MissileThunderlet me guess, propcuck?
i just think dogfighting is more fun than missiles, simple asif you disagree, you are bad at the game
>>562246228Considering how garbage the assault air/ground arcade and heli EC modes are/were this is pretty damn good.
>>562245114>>562245404Yeah, not much success. Once some of my buddies get together, maybe we'll try to mass-volley them for the fun of it. >>562245626The >American teammeme is doing some good work here. I can rinse them with the Mig-29.
>TU-95 "BEAR">drops loads what's up with that anyway?
>>562245836wow, it's almost as if they only show you the good moments!
>>562246218Anon you could buy them 2 weeks ago with the tool
>nothing but victories as russiairiaf chinks and assorted subhumans who own it always go down the middle so it has been nonstop miggers sneaking nukes into the rear and side airfields
you will get nuked and you will enjoy it
Tu-160 and B-1 when
>>562246228>while S300s, BUKs, HAWKs, and Patriots are impotentThey're far from impotent my man
>>562246785next april fools
is there an actual explanation as to why the AI spaa is unflare/chaff/terrainable? it fucking hits everything, the missiles are buggy as shit and turn 90 degreeseverything else about the gamemode is fine and i say this is a mid tier sloppa enjoyer, i just cannot figure out how to actually reliably kill those ground targets
>tell team I got a Su-24>two floggers come to escort me into enemy territoy>one trades with a phantom>other one takes a patriot hit for me near airfield>make it to their last airfield before main base>nuke itunprecedented kino
>>562246356More like "I am watching my missiles meme through any attempt to dodge them even though I shouldn't have gotten a kill"
>Haven't played in forever>really want to include my two US premium planes at 4.0 and 4.3 in ground battles>the US ground vehicle spread and options around this area is complete dogshitoh now I remember.I really just want to use the 76 M4's and the m36, am I shooting myself in the foot by using those planes at 5.3 (BTD and p51d-10) or is it fine
>>562246228>this definitely takes the cake for the laziest event yetLiterally put more effort into this than World War mode.
>>562245626Every USA team I've played on has lost brother, meanwhile russia is easy wins
>>562247028CAS is CAS, if you can bomb tanks and strafe open tops it's good, especially at prop tiers, you don't have to worry about IRST or anything so it's a joke
>>562246920hawks are easily chaffed/outmaneouvered unless at high alt close directly above them SACLOS AI launchers tend to be deadly at medium range if you dont have cover or can't bait them into the ground. Even if you do chaff the radar, it's SACLOS so they will still guide it inpatriots are a dead sentence if you dont multipath or use terrain
>>562247116How was the WW1 event? I didn't play it
>>562246586What? This has been the hottest shit for a decade, with begging the tournament manager being the only known way of getting them. What tool?
>>562246498The amount of "good moments" they have in one vid is more than I have in a year.
>>562246946webm it
>>562247262You missed it buddy, they patched it, but before they did someone in sekrit club))) shared it here and everyone present during that weekend got to buy themHalf the tourney players bought bushes as a result
>>562247239people cry about muh balance during this event but dont remember the absolute dogshit balance of the WWI event, the A7V was so turbohandheld it's insaneplaying anything but germany was just "how long can you last until you are raped"
>>562247239Not the event. The mode.
remember to be the problemalso shoutout to sweden for cooking the best lineup in the game
>spawned in a Tu-95>immediately shot down by the Patriot:^(
>>562247262
>>562247531>Half the tourney players bought bushes as a resultDidn't hear any of that, and I'm on various esports discords and play 5vs5 ground/4vs4 air regularly in a somewhat decent team. And it popped up here? Sounds like bullshit.
>>562247262Somebody made a script you had to run to exploit some shit on the store. Personally, I wouldn't run random scripts from people on the internet, but apparently it was legit.
>>562247768>And it popped up here? Sounds like bullshitcheck the archives from a few weeks agoyou have a gorillion posts of shitters crying about it
>>562247768Yeah everyone that got in the know kept quietHalf the major players got bushes and the other half is seethingThe code got posted here and I told an esports buddy(major playor, been on the big screen) and all his esports buddies also got bushes
>>562245765IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IDK WHY
>>562245765>>562248228have you tried not locking ))))
What alt is the f4e radar actually usuable lol
>>562246920the spaas don't use their radar, and they have perfect aim like in heli ecthe roland and osa are saclos, the ai guides it "manually" so it's impossible to chaff or flarethey will sometimes put the radar up and you can lock them with the anti radiation missiles but they don't actually use it to guide the missiles/their shotsand if you get close enough the gepard and shilka will sometimes delete you without you even seeing the tracersthe bmp-2 and bradly ai will also shoot you down or destroy your munitions with insane accuracy
>>562247742oh shit, that's definitely not the old UI. I wasn't even aware there was a palm leaves pack too.>>562247864do you happen to have a keyword? bush gets too many results>>562247939It hasn't really started appearing more often in tournaments, so I find that hard to believe.
>>562248387anyas long as the target is 10-20 degrees above the horizon
>>562248507So I should be trying to lock from below?
>>562248205>those eyesalways cracks me up, looks like that one wojak
>>562248459>It hasn't really started appearing more often in tournaments, so I find that hard to believe.People only really got it 3 weeks agoYou'll see it more in use next majorhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/559403419/#559556404
>>562248387Like 1000m. Level or above doesn't matter. You can't look down.The planes that they give you suck ass, the F-4E is probably the best one though funnily enough.
>>562248567yup
>>562248639>>559558841>it's a phyton appthis was definitely made by a jeetlooking forward to the posts about stolen accounts in the future
Shit shit shit I'm still at work, what are the requirements to getting the jumbo bombers? I wanna use them in Naval EC
>>562249145nigga you can read the code yourself
>su-24M>static AA hits me every time even hugging floor
>>5622492707k points every two days
>>562248639Pretty frustrating to have missed that.Still, I feel like people that have them would already use them, and I didn't see an uptic there. None of the people I play with heard of it either, so that didn't really make its rounds in the TSS scene. Wonder if it got posted anywhere else, or where it came from.
>>562244981Su-24 can use them, launch them from up high where ONLY the hawk is firing at you, and turn in circles withing the hawk's range so that it keeps trying to fire at you instead of intercepting the missile. Don't bother with arm's from subsonic planes unless there's another plane already distracting them.
>>562249502As I said, sekrit club, one of the sekrit club people just posted it here after someone snitched and gaijin introduced a fix the next updateIt certainly spread, but covertly, this was the only public place it got postedI know there are even decal having CC's that used it
>>562249376I'm not finding the grind hard. Pick Russia, pick the Su-25 with two radiation missiles and a bunch of vikhirs, and then spawn on a flank. You can pick off the AA for convoys and then roll them up as long as you keep an eye out for the I-hawks.
>you can spawn the phantom for 0sp if you just select a different weapons loadout>you can spawn a cheap nuke for 250spI finished the first task before figuring this out. (Spent 85% of the time flying A-6E/A-7E)
>>562249945>I know there are even decal having CC's that used itWho? Not that it matters much, I suppose, but would be interesting. I'm pretty well networked in the TSS sweats scene, if it popped up there I or at least someone I know whould've heard of it. Same for squadronbattles.
>>5622493767700 actually.
>>562249856all that fucking humilliation ritual meanwhile a few Kh-29T do the job but better
>>562247117just spent a whole game getting bullied in the su39 by guys in f15s and tomcats
>>562249270>>562249376>>562249270it's 7.7k every two days FOR EACH bomber
>>562250468guess i'll jsut have to stick with the b52 unless gajin pulls in a worthwhile soviet bb
I did the first tier and I'm tired of this mode already
>>562250917
>J.Pz. 38: 7.92 mm M.G. 34: targeting missiles enabled when in the hands of AI (max 3 km)>ZTQ62 [USSR], ZTQ62: 12.7 mm Type 59: targeting missiles enabled when in the hands of AI (max 3 km)just opening up on a maverick at 3km with my pintle gun
>>562251000you can do this in ground battles
>>562249502That's because bushes don't really do shit and it's tedious to apply it to every vehicle you use.
>enemy first-spawns spaa>kill him>same enemy spawns backup spaa>kill him again>same enemy spawns aircraft and beelines to my position>kill him again
>>562251242they help a lot by covering your turret silhouette and make it way harder to shoot someone that's fast peeking a corner/hill
>high quality patriots and hawks with accurate radar modeled>ruin the whole event by copy pasting the exact same magical radarless gepards and rolands that make heli EC unplayableseriously, why?
>>562250237Kek, same here. This'll be a lot easier with these mini-nukes, though.
>>562251523))))
>>562251420The only way they might help is if somebody shoots over you when you crest a hill, that's true enough. But to do that, you have to place them high, which often interferes with binocular vision (not to mention simulator battles for those who play them). And again, it's tedious to apply them to every vehicle.
hell yeah
>>562252289how long did you circle that strategic spawn?
I really dislike this event.
I can get the 5kt and 30kt nuke but I cannot get the big fatty nuke, how do you fellas do it?
what would happen if i told (You) that i respawned 10 times and killed one (1) gepard?
>>562252342i didn't circle it at all actuallyhe spawned a little bit after i did so i had to climb to him
>>562252345>die at any time>go to respawn>RWR spamming on airfield and get strafedyeah no it's shit
lole
>>562252345how could you dislike this compared to normal ARB at the same tier?>>562252762next time spawn in an un contested airfield. You get 6 of them
>>562252142They also help horizontally on quite a few tanks. The (non F) Panthers for example need to be hit in specific areas of the mantlet, or in the flat part next to the mantlet. Bush it up enough and you have to aim for these areas using the barrel as reference point, which is possible, but more difficult, especially if he comes around a corner at full tilt.>simGRB and Sim have different constraints than tournaments. A good chunk of TSS players spend autistic amounts of time on bush placement.
The map sucks. You can just go around the whole battlefield, sniff grass and just nuke airfields for free with the 500 SP bomb. Unless someone happens to be in your path (retards never will be, they stay within the red area), the approach is 100% safe and if you toss the bomb and immediately dive back down shitting out chaff the exit is also pretty foolproof. I bombed 5 enemy airfields in one life, only dying on the middle one because there were actually people there. Literally free star once you get your 500 SP.You can also easily just go to the last airfield too, but the 500 SP bomb only does like 1/20th of it's hp.There's also unprotected lone radars (circled in pink) you can gun down at your leisure, but I'm not sure if they actually do anything.Red jews are Patriots/R-300, R-300 I found generally less dangerous because the fuckers fire missiles constantly at shit that's on the other end of the map so they take more time to respond to you, but you should avoid them and being above their radar anyway.They should have put more missile batteries in the mountains and some ships with missiles. A carrier group to spawn on (and nuke) would also be pretty neat.
>>562252621but the spawn is behind yours?>>562251523I don't get why the make AI ridiculously accurate in other modes in the first place. It's just frustrating for no gain.
>one tgp gets this nice nvd overlay meanwhile every other tank helicopter is stuck with shitty black filter with green overlay
>>562252897US side is exactly the fucking same, except maybe that the coastline airfields are a bit more dangerous to bomb because there's less terain to hide behind on the immediate approach.
>>562252970>but the spawn is behind yours?i spawned at the big main airfield
>>562252897>>562253087>blaming the map for incompetent teammatesclassic
>>562253073well, I remember su34 having this
>didn't buy the mutt hornet when it was on sale>would be great to have now but it's $80Missed opportunity not running a sale snail smdh
genuinely staggering that there's still no ability to turn your fucking tank without skid steering
>>562252897>they should make it impossible to fly anywhere else but straight through the meatgrinder just like ground rb yeah no
>>562253290f4s is just as good
despite the flaws this is honestly more fun than air rbremove the gepards, force the rolands to be a 1:1 version of the one we have in grb instead of their magical shit, ban the usage of the AIM-9M and fakour, allow the Su-27 but force it to use regular non-ER r27s.also remove the F-18C early it ruins the "late cold war" immersion
>>562253418>gamemode held together with duct tape and unrealistic restrictionstruth is a game could be ended by a single su24 with multiple nukes
I love the event. I just think the AA is insane and the Russians gave an edge with theirsAlso, am I crazy or are these packs actually worth?
>>562253418>ban the usage of the AIM-9M and fakour, allow the Su-27
>>562253073which TGP? It does look nice.
So I take it we're all shit posting here while waiting in queue?
>>562253321Make it equally as hard to fly everywhere on the frontline, not just allow people to skip the fight and win the match by AFK flying in straight line for 5 minutes.
>>562253725>Also, am I crazy or are these packs actually worth?They aren't if you buy your GE in bulk
>>562253321>screams in Sands of Sinai
>>562253905just play russia
>>562250254Sorry buddy only the racists got it
>>562253863Mercury on su25 series >>562253905lmao, i just instaqueue and check player profiles to see if they have any top tier aircraft till i find a lobby with just shitters
>>562254004I want the B-52 though anon :(
>>56225390899% of the braindeads playing the game only know how to fly straight forward. I am perfectly fine with an easier option for people with two braincells to rub together.
>>562254232its funny cause if you bomb a side base you can automatically rule out half the map from any enemy presence
>have to turn RWR down to fucking 0 because it has an aneurism in the event mode and will dump every countermeasure you have within 10 seconds of getting within eyesight of any targets on the map
>>562253395Wow it's only $70
>>562253725S-300 is much better than Patriot, I'd say both Buks and Hawks are absolutely bloodthristy but at short range USA wins simply because Osas respect countermeasures while Rolands don't give a shit at all. Gepards are also generally more dangerous than Shilkas and as a bonus Bradleys will also shoot you if you fly particularly close to them and they will keep shooting at a surprising range.
>>562254510just disable MAW slaving
>>562254539F-15A is better than either>>562254671>and as a bonus Bradleys will also shoot you if you fly particularly close to them and they will keep shooting at a surprising rangeI figured that one out the hard way. So much for the light tanks being easy frags.
>>562253936do you mean during the May sale?
>>562255083No I mean at all
Just got the two packs for a total of 4263, what do I do with that?
yes i spawned 20 timesyes i killed a gepard and two a7no i don't understand this mode
>>562255956Spawn the fighter, chuck some missiles at enemy planes, get a kill or two, can now spawn 5kt nuke, fly low, bomb depots, lil strafe runs, you're now snowballing
I don't even understand how to use HARMS.>radar pinging me>look in pod and aim at it>no lock and just endless searching?>fire harm anyways?>missile goes for it on a strange top-down whiplash kind of arc>every missile shot down effortlessly by AI anyways
>>562256205Yeah it seems like they just dont work
This alone makes the event unplayable. Longer queue times than fucking naval
>>562255829buy talismans in the may v day sale. at least that's what I'll do
>>562256415Blame Gaijin for making America fun while Russia unironically suffers
>>562256415This just shows how much discrepancy there's between premium shitters as US mains vs RU mains
>>562256205you don't. they're firecrackers, they often don't kill even if they hit as they seem to aim for the radar which is too far away from the main vehicle, and the AI just plays CIWS and shoots most of them down anyways. Play the F4 and MLD, first in air to air mode, then in CCRP nuke chuking mode, instead.>>562256415Russia isn't even bad. I think there's just way more people that want the B-52. Maybe this could've been alleviated by adding Britain and those atrocious looking V bombers to split out the player pool a bit more.
>>562233061If onlyI've been waiting over 30 minutes
>>562256770Really? longest I got for USA was 2 mins or so, but I have all the servers checked
>>562256181dow do i get rid of the bombing permission?
>AI can CIWS all american guided munitions>can't CIWS vihkrs, though :)very interesting indeed
>>562256736I think because of premium planes being extremly prevalent into the US teams compared to the RU that only has access to the worse MiG-23MLThe US can use the premium F-18, F4S and F-20. Today i even saw a fucking F-5C Also yeah, don't get me wrong, BUFF and BEAR are great but it's a huge missing chance not having some AVRO bomber, i mean, it is as iconic as it gets
>>562257064I cant use vihkhrs in a fixed wing I just get swatted out of the sky
>>562256918Go into your controls and find "deactivate target point", default may b alt+backspace
>>562256736I don't think adding another allied queue would help much>>562257121It would also have been concurrent with a shitish jet sale which would have made sense
>>562257121The MiG-25 event should have been MiG-31 with R-33 so Rushits also got a retarded BVR slinger akin to IRAF and it's Fakours.It would be objectively bad for the game but at least I'd have a Rushit plane to mindlessly do the star in 30 minutes.
Is the pakistani oplot m good or am i wasting my time? I'm 200k in already
>>562257827No duplet is gimped
I go ocean side and bomb the air bases there while the team dies to the meat grinder. Same with the USSR, I fly mountain side to the base.
hmmmmmm another event I don't think I want to play
>>562257871Fuck me I wasted my time
>>562258004Even worst, I'm actually 390k already researched
>>562257617I actually feel a bit bad when using the missile camera on my Fakours and seeing MiG-23s flying in straight line towards me spamming flares like it's going to help. Nevermind premiums, they should just give every retard a jet plane so I can bully them outside of ARB.
>>562257827Oplot is a meme because the double-layered ERA has massive gaps in the armor, so it's either unpennable in the bricks or just about anything bigger than an autocannon can frontally pen your hull.
this event really shows how little damage a tactical nuke can do
>>562258004Eventually they'll fix duplet
Genuinely what the fuck are Aim-9Ps? I've had better results with the Bs than this shit
why can I sometimes just not drop a nuke despite having one equipped?
>>562257121>The US can use the premium F-18, F4S and F-20. Today i even saw a fucking F-5CYeah, that might be it. The F-4E and MLD you get for free honestly aren't even bad, though.>>562257393>I don't think adding another allied queue would help muchCould just have bongs fight the US
>>562258370tactical nukes exist just to flatten enemy basesbig boy icbms is where the fun starts
>>562259197Because you have a targeting point selected somewhere else. Either disable the targeting point or bomb release permission for CCRP.
>>562259420No I don't and it's not enabled. It just randomly decides to not allow me some time after I dropped one.
>>562259410big boy ICBMs went away from fuckhuge nukes to a couple hundred kt MIRVs almost half a century ago>>562259504beats me then, sounds weird
This April Fools is... Its just kinda boring.
The event concept is actually very fun it's just a shame that the vehicles they gave you if you aren't a nig 3 main are actual dookie dogshit. You can do decent in the F-4E on US but everything else is kinda fodder and it doesn't help that everyone gets to bring in their big boy stuff to rape you if they actually have the trees grinded out.
ANTOOOOON
>>562259313>Could just have bongs fight the USdumb
I like how ARMs are useless, they'd be even worse in real matches
>>562259717I don't have any modern jets, so I don't think I can participate.
Genuinely if they just tweaked SHORAD being a complete deathtrap for the slower CAS planes this is a decent mode.Weird balance shit for event reasons aside, anyway.I hope they keep it
>>562259761the MiG-29 is plenty goodI don't really get why they banned ther Su-25, though
Kind of surprising the devs actually took the time to model ECM
Y'know, I'm starting to think my problem isn't with the events themselves, but modern jet combat. Radars, missiles, that sort. I like the WW2 and Korean-War Aspect the game had.
>>562258535I hope so brother
>>562260047I do too, but have they ever kept these modes?
not sure if I can say I am loving the IRIAF in the eventyou spend a good chunk of your time fighting against your radar despite having good targets in front of you (the fact there are a gorillion missiles flying around doesn't help) and trying to guess whether there's a S-300 launching your wayI think I have a better time in the 9-13wish I had an F-16 or a F-15
>>562259956I have modern jets but not in USSR and USA, but I played the event just fine with the free vehicles but I guess I have experience at that BR that doesn't allow me to get sealclubbed by the premium paypiggies of the USA
>>562259947I don't really know what people expected when they are basically just TV missiles with extra steps and those mostly work by throwing enough volume.
>>562260343usually april's fools is beta test for something that is comingapart from the game mode itself, there's>ordinance being visible on the map (and estimated impact point in case of bombs)>nukes?>ARMs (which so far are useless)>ECM>possibly new ARB map
>>562260554I'm still of the opinion that Gaijin was testing the waters with the Mech Event, and decided to can it.
>>562260389you're probably playing it too slow. suicide ram it into the enemy air field one, unless you're flying straight at the enemy team you're just giving the microwave pretending to be your radar the chance to fuck you over. no point in staying alive long in that plane.yeah, I find the F-15A, MiG-29 (9-13) and F-18 a whole lot more enjoyable to fly, too. Takes a little bit longer to get the points, but that's more than worth it since the event actually becomes fun that way.Also the F-4E and MiG-23 MLD are surprisingly fun if you start tossing nukes with CCRP. The point return for it isn't half bad either.
it wont be like this the whole event right?
>>562260554Way back in that weird infantry exosuit event they were clearly testing infantry damage models and I predicted this way back when it was still running.
>>562260554>>ordinance being visible on the map (and estimated impact point in case of bombs)You can also click on that ordnance on the map, and then use the following cam with U on it. On all munitions, hint hint, nudge nudge.
>>562260701It's going to be and it's mostly because the BR brackets mean that USA has an ARH slinger available at 13.0 (F-14A) that gets to effortlessly farm while everyone else is stuck in SARH hell.
>>562259172It's 9J.
>>562260927Sorry I meant they have multiple*** ARH slingers. The F-14A is just an accessible quasi-premium.
Innings for what
>>562261049best plane for the event
>>562260927oh...the 20 minute queue times are kind of trashI have to play mutts to get the 52...
>>562261140pay up, goy
>>562254671>Osas respect countermeasureslol lmao even, the OSAs are absolutely cracked. And BMPs shoot at triple the fire rate of Bradleys
The F9F Cougar is my favorite Jet.Even made it in Space Engineers to be used as the default fighter in my little fleet.
>>562261049forgetting you have a maneuver mode and getting outrated by something that shouldn't outrate you, then remembering you have a maneuver mode and stalling immediately after using it
>>562261049missed the golden mig era of 2023 award
>>562261205i don't know what I'm doing
>>562261205that would not change the player imbalance causing the extreme time in queue, ESL anonabout to hit 30 min
lol
if the su33 werent banned I would paypig it right now
>>562261406oddly specific
The MiG-23 is trash but rolling in multiple nukes using the SU-24 is pretty easy. Russia unironically is better for winning but America is better for high kill games.
>>562261287Sexiest plane in the game, and gets a great skin too. SHame the BR readjustments made it completely fucking useless.
>>562261620>waited for half an hour like you>got tired of it and switched to Russia>first minute in and I already have someone bitching about R73s from my Mig-29You know what? I think I'm actually having fun for the sake of it.
>>562262736A damn shame. If it were half a BR lower I'd use it far more. As it is, its fantastic when used right.>Gonna add some lewd nose art.
why isn't the AV-8B plus allowed idgi
>Everyone keeps saying that RU is actually the winning side in this mode>Every match on RU I've played my team loses as fast as possibleI see
>gaijin gets one (1) game vaguely slightly competitive in the WT niche>suddenly makes a good game mode (pure coincidentally identical to it)thank you nuclear option
>>562232879I usually play props so I'm suffering a massive skill issue>All my missiles miss even when im right behind somebody at 3km. >Enemy planes can shoot a missile from some retarded angle and I can spam all my flares and turn sharply against the missile and it hits anyways. >Enemy can lock on and fire a missile at me from a head on but my missiles can't lock back>Flares do nothing>The AI gepards have Naval AA accuracy and have one shot me 3x when i try to low alt bomb>The fucking AI SAMs have been shooting me AND my russian 500lb bombs out of the sky when I try to high alt bomb. I'm getting 1000 points per game and am having a miserable experience. Might just skip out.
>>562263431This game mode is such ass I regret spending the last 2 hours playing it.
>>562263629it could use some tweaks but it's at least a trillion times better than normal ARB or EC so i'll take it
>Watch a HAWK missile do a literal 90 degree turn to hit meYeah bro just stay low and notch or something
>>562263803skill issue
Is there anything special about these planes to even make them desirable to grind this event? The Tu-95 has a gigantic fucking bomb but they literally JUST nerfed big bombs a while ago so why even bother? What BR are these things? Tu-4 and even the B-29 are already at BRs where you are griefing yourself by using them.
>finally get a game mode where the F-117 might be worth having>don't have it
>>562263803tuah
>>562230910>Queue for Nuclear Thunder>Wait 10 minutes for match to start>Spawn in>Take off>Immediately destroyed by missile less than one minute after being airborne>Lose match in less than 5 minutes>Zero kills, 12 deaths>Lose 37,000 SEYup, I'm killing myself. Fuck this game. I'm never getting that B-52.
>>562264029they are cool
Bros I've spawncamped 3 b52s so far in the mig25 and the seethe it causes is immaculate. Fucking launching r40t at 60kfeet while going mach 2.6 they just kinda teleport to them
>>562263616It's harsh for beginners as the free planes are both somewhat lacking and there's quite a few mechanics that need to be understood for FOX-2 combat. The F4E for example lacks a PD radar, so you can't lock people unless there's air (not ground) behind them.You could probably learn to ground pound eith CCRP bomb tosses pretty quickly, which is very effective at grinding points.
>>562264148Similar experience here. My only kills have been machine guns. All my missiles do fuck all and enemy ones are un-dodgeable. You'd think even by random chance spamming missiles one would hit but nope. all miss
>>5622640298.3 and 8.7. No point in grinding them apart for autistic collection, they'll be completely useless.
>>562264220wish my Mig-25 was spaded
>>562264220Can you webm it? Want to see the mig 25 doing what it was intended for
I need to ask this here since I'm still chatbanned in-game.How do I climb? Everyone else soars so high and I'm stuck at low altitude.
>>562264231sarh is fox1
I can still hear the fucking RWR launch ringing when I turn the game off, jesus christ
>>562265565I can't hear a thing, but thats because I'm deaf.
>>562265697skill issue
wtf the armor on merkava does fuckall
any day now...
>>562264029I MUST find out if the jumbo planes can be taken to Naval EC. Because if so, then it's basically free aircraft research while everyone else is in a boat and the one nigger in the plane has to go toe to toe with my tail.
First needful complete, guess I'll play Russia tomorrow. It's 2 days per star right?
how the fuck are mutts this bad?
>Finally get a small nuke>Fly towards an airfield>HAWK missiles>ok I can dodge one or two its fine>Legitimately see like 10 in the sky all at onceOh ok.
>>562267764Every time I try to play Russia it's just an endless swarm of radar missiles
>see chink in iriaf>teamkill it out of principleevery game until its not allowed
>>562267764>F14 spawns>Flies to the airfield everybody on my team is spawning from>Fires 6 AA missiles>4 killsHmmm
>>562267764>MIG-29 with R73s and R27ERs rapes everything in the lobbyCan't wait for them to allow SU-27s and 33s after Redditors complained about the "balance" :)
>>562269176These people are completely unhinged. How can you rave about muh russian bias 24/7 and the pretend that R-27ERs are somehow comparable to sparrows or that HMS R-73s are weak in this matchmaker?
Maybe they should just ban the F-14s.
>>562269328And farkours/9ms aren't? Gonna ignore RWR quality too?
>>562269176Russoids cannot comprehend the overwhelming advantage that R-27ERs give them, they'll start talking about radars and flight models as if any of that matters when they get instant "I win" buttons. It genuinely shocked me when I started playing the Su-33 just how overpowered they are.
>>562269462The IRIAF needs to be removed from the mode, but at least it's a rare event vehicle. 9Ms are strong at sealclubbing but not against people that know what they're doing, so I'd rate the 73 higher.>RWR qualityUseless in this mode.
>>562269790>Digital RWRs that tell you the precise notching angle compared to "the threat is over yonder" doesn't present an advantageretard.
the only vehicle that should be removed from being played is the irancatI've seen russia win several times today, they don't need a flanker
This event just proves how compressed air is
>f14 shoots missile>Shoot two missiles AT the enemy missile to hopefully survive>does nothing>dies.
>want to just have selectable weapons for aircraft like ground vehicles>1 for all guns, 2 for machine guns, 3 for cannons, 4 for rockets etc, but left click fires whichever you have selected>can't do that lmao>fine fuck you I'll just use the cycle primary weapon keybind>better hope you remember to press it when you start because by default no weapons are activated ))))))))how has this nigger game been out for so long and the control options haven't changed since fucking launch and they're all dogshit and archaic
>>562230910I just got 2 day FULL BAN for in-game chat-spamming?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?I USE THEM TO COMMUNICATE WHY DO YOU ALLOW ME TO USE THEM IF IM GETTING BANNED FOR USING IN-GAME TOOLS TO COMMUNICATE WHAT THE FUCKING SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTI CANNOT BELIEVE THIS!!!! NOT EVEN A WARNING!!!!! JUST A STRAIGHT UP 2-DAY FULL GAME BAN FOR FUCKING USING THE RADIO COMMANDS TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHERS IN GAME!!!!!GUESS I CAN NEVER PING AN ENEMY AGAIN WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????i swear i ONLY use them to communicate with my team or try to boost morale, like me and a teammate were just saying "Awesome" and "thanks" and pinging enemies together... get out of the match get banned and my game closes out WHAT THE FUCK.AND PEOPLE CAN JUST MUTE MY RADIO IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WHAT THE FUCK GAIJIN MODS???????????I do use them a lot but HOLY SHIT not even a warning or anything from the moderators just a straight up 2-day full fucking ban!!!!!!!
How should I be approaching this shit? Do bother with trying to attack the depots and air defenses or should I just be rushing airfields? Should I just be tossing nukes at shit or should I bother with the TV/GPS guided weapons?
>>562271250You can set a button+scroll wheel to select, it's the best way.
>>562271280I remain convinced that the best way is taking out the S-300/Patriot batteries then bombing the Buk/Hawks from space. But I've been getting my shit fucked up going after them and I'd rather chase points.
>>562271252i need to remember to unbind literally all controls for communication and make sure I totally block all chat when I'm able to access my account again...anyone know if it's possible to mess with my own sound files so all radio calls just play a blank audio file? or would that violate anti-cheat stuff?
the way to win the mode is to just spawn your best fighter, shoot all missiles into furball, J out, repeat until 2500sp then spawn a bomber and nuke them
>>562271623Tips for finding and engaging them? I've been using the 141 and su-24 tonight but wish that they had better RWRs.
>>562267764funny they manage to get raped even with IRIAF and F15A spam
>>562271280Nuking airfields and small bases is fun but the "meta" is to just join the giant tdm match in the middle with a F-14, F-15, or MIG-29 and get enough SP to spawn the big nuke when you hit level 3, it will increase ticket drain dramatically if you nuke the enemy's main base so as long as they don't get one off on you you'll most likely win.That being said if you want to nuke on either side check this anons posts >>562252897 >>562253087
>>5622712805kt nukes for depots/SAM sites and such (or just do pvp)30kt nukes for airfields (every AF that isn't the main one just needs one)niggernvke needs no explanation
>>562271651i think you can just set radio calls to zero volume in the audio settings
>45 min queue time
>>562272029thanks, good thinking, i was overcomplicating it.this is a SHITTTTTTYYYY thing to ban people for! I ping important enemies, I say Awesome and Thanks etc whenever I can... like I literally use them for COMMUNICATION, and even though others CAN JUST MUTE ME I'm being banned because I'm over-communicating..... DISGUSTING
>>562272258Play on the other team.
>>562272280just to make suredid you make a chink mad? the small bans (1~2d) are usually automated so probably you got mass reported
>>562271519to do what, directly fire the weapon? that's gay. and if it's just selecting it, its not really any different from what I'm doing
>>562271716They form a triangle between and slightly ahead of the second layer of airfields, with the center most battery being further back. Look on your map at your own strategic SAM batteries and they pretty much mirror each other.If people don't know this you can mouse over both enemy and friendly AI units on the "M" map and it will tell you what they are.
>>562272494Should I try and knock them out with the Su-24's GNSS glide bombs, or will they just laugh at me and intercept those?
>finished ussr star in one game>zero progress on us one because iriaf subhumans scared misha awayi dont understand why they took the time to make ban lists but forgot to add the one plane that ruined air rb harder than anything else in wt history
>>562271716>>562272494Oh and as far as engaging them: Each battery has a single SPAAG and SAM unit (OSA or Roland), drop off burner and go below Mach, skim treetops and prioritize the short range defensive SPAA, then go after the big ones. The TELs can easily be gunned, a single bullet to the bundle of launchers will take them out, I like bombs for the radar units. You will also be in range of the back line of BUKs/HAWKs and occasionally airfield defenses, it's sketchy as fuck.There are also 2 large independent radars between the strategic batteries and the second line of theater level ones. I don't know what they do but I take them out because I'm in the area.>>562272721Rolands will almost certainly pop them but it's worth a shot. Unfortunately the batteries are so spread out that even a 2k+ bomb will barely get 2 pieces of it. I have not tried nuking them yet.
>>562272926it's an event vehicle so they probably assumed not many people would have it and as such it wouldn't be such a big deal
so do I just pick Mig25 and pretend its ARB matches?
>>562272926Anton added it to the valid list for me to increase my market gains.
>>562273034because air sim exists every chink playing wt owns all the air event vehicles since they all use bots to farm events, most iriaf players are changs
Whats the total cost of just buying out the stars in $?This is so unfun I'd rather play anything else.
>>562273175just for the bombers you need 4k ge each8k is around 35-40 bucks i think
>>562257121>No Frog bombers>No Bong bombersBig beautiful warplanes never ever.
what kind of tech is this
when will anton revert the events schedule so that normal human beings can enjoy the game again?
>>562273890>so that normal human beings can enjoy the gamethis has never been a thing
>Try guided bombs>press space>"no bombs">...>Try to use the Ctrl-C to bomb lock on>does nothingwhat even are these?
AIM-260 export approved for Australia.Australian F-35 in UK tree when.
>>562272332I have the rus star already obviously
>War Thunder becomes War Option for April Fools>Nuclear Option because Nuclear Thunder
>>562267764haven't played the poccnr side yet, but feels like mutts are maybe a bit cucked by most of their free unlocked aircraft that most people are using being kinda fucking slow vs mig23s etc + giant map takes forever to get in range
Only the limited default vehicle and loadout selection should've been allowed and more thought put into that. The bring your own kite (but not this one!) is retarded.
the R-24R is superior to any sparrow btdubs
>>562275826faker
>time gated marks of distinctiongenuinely the worst part of wt
>>562276117That would matter if the nato planes could only carry two sparrows. I prefer a pile of sparrows over two 24Rs every day of the week.
>>5622762614 sparrows may as well be zero since there's no aspect or range where they can't be trivially rolled
>>562275826this is my pov as she completely milks my dick dry of cum with sensual paizuri
>>562276117that's true for every sparrow except for the dogfight ones which are the only good ones aside from skyflashes
>>562276484it applies to any sparrow, you retard and the only difference between an E-2 and a skyflash is proxy range, which makes skyflashes marginally harder to roll
>>562274506don't bother with any guided ground stuff they will get intercepted, you will have more success hugging the trees and lobbing dumb bombs with CCRP.
>>562276484dogfight sparrows pull less than 7F/M
>r60ed an f15
>>562276236Not your avatar.
cant do anything without some tranny SAM nigger piece of shit third partying me
>Handley Page Victorwhat a name for a plane, also when?
>>562276595and it's kino>>562276671not true
The team imbalance really just further illustrates the extent of the subhumanity of this playerbase. Huge swaths of people just glom onto whatever is perceived as overpowered as possible with no consideration for anything else. It's so joyless.
>>562252970>I don't get why the make AI ridiculously accurate in other modes in the first place.Perfect accuracy is the AI's default state. For it to be able to miss, they need to change the accuracy parameters of every AI unit individually, and even then it'll only apply to that specific mission.
Nice freaking UI, Gaijin.
>>562277616It probably has less to do with meta and more to do with the fact that more people want to unlock the B-52 because it's more iconic. If you tell John America that he only has to play America to unlock the B-52 then he's only gonna play America. If the devs were smarter they would've found a way to make it so that you have to play both sides for the rewards.
Pretty cool.
the event should have ISRAEL
>>562278063Maybe I'm just projecting the attitude I'm too familiar with now after dealing with the terminator spam for so long. There are definitely many people frothing at the mouth at the thought of seal clubbing with their F14/15s though, which is absolutely contributing to the 100:1 or worse queue ratio.
>>562276240it's 2 days for 7700 score nigga, you can easily do each star in 2-3 games max even with just the default planes
>>562278063More people might want the B-52, but you're having a giggle if you think that the mig-29 and 141 are matches for the F-15/F-14s. There's a massive disparity in the amount of missiles that both sides bringing to the table.
>>562277616I think it's just that more people play US air. People wanna play it because it is THE air force ever. You see the same thing in air sim too, even at BRs where the US gets stomped every game it's way easier to find a game on the red side.
>unlock yak-38m>it doesn't fucking come with guns
>>562278726It does thoughie, you get two underwing gunpods IIRC.
>>562278423Yeah, once you get enough SP for the Fencer/Phantom nook and have a general idea of what you're doing the score just snowballs on glassing the frontline clusters alone.
>>562278656So there'd be no problem with banning the F15 and 14
>3800 score in 2 hoursWhat exactly should i be doing with the default planes? I feel totally outclassed.
>>562279942Score can be easily farmed if you focus on nuking fuel/ammo depots with small nukes and especially by nuking small airfields with medium nukes. Do that and you'll be getting over 7700 score a game.
i forgot how nice the hornet is when you dont have to play against fox 3s
It's crazy how they needed to make an entire new gamemode to make the mig 29 9-13 actually somewhat fun to play
>>562278423i'm not complaining about the score, i'm complaining about inability to just do them all at onceI'd rather grind for two days than have to do it piece a meal for a week
>>562280456>Frontal aviation fighter is better when it gets to do some frontal stuffwoahIt also needs its nuke.
>implying ufo-29 was ever badwhy are russians so consistently unskilled?
(You)
(me)
Can the f111 spawn nukes or is it free planes only
does destroying those big radars at the back disable the S-300/patriots?
Don't look what the US teams are bringing to this event only to get dabbed on by the default Floggers and Frogfoots, sister.
How do you fire flares in pairs+1chaff like it used to be a couple years back?
>>562281394>flares in pairsyou press your flare button twice>chaffyou press your chaff buttonhope that helps
>>562281394This is insanely wasteful and you shouldn't be doing that.
Gaijin better be keeping this mode or a variation indefinitely.I hope at least they are taking notes on how to make arb better
>people learning ccrpi hate it, i dont want niggers to have this knowledge, i dont want SPAAggots to be aware of what im doing to kill them with dumb bombs
>>562281559I think this is going to be another 2017 where the entire event gets implemented wholesale. Also this specific event is a bit unprecedented in that most of the assets for it have been in the game for a long while, completely unused elsewhere, and that its format is REALLY similar to how Aerial Warfare, the big new mode they announced last year for this year, was described. All in all, there's a lot to suggest it's not the usual meme event made in unironically two weeks but something serious they've been working on for a long time.
the actual nuke components of the B61 are kinda small, wonder if you could fit them with modern compact electronics and a simple time fuse so it fits inside a luggage bag or a large backpack
>>562281490ok, but can you still do it?
>try to play air RB because bored of missileslop>join in progress>see this before i even take offgod please just give us NORMAL AIR RB BUT WITH RESPAWNS
the real feature they are testing is ai intercepting munitions, because people grind a lot of rp and event points by spamming JDAMs in sim
>>562282236You don't need to publicly test something this tiny, let alone spend so much time and effort on a gamemode as complex as this. Besides, the munition interception behavior has been in the game for a while, it just wasn't enabled anywhere.
>>562282236What's there to test. If that's what they wanted to do they'd just push it straight to prod.
>>562282236there was a small window of time were ai spaa used to shoot down bombs but was disabled
>>562282351>>562282386>>562282397you dont need to reply all at once, i get it im retarded, fuck off now please
>>562282436dumb
>>562282436i saved your embarrassment to post it again in the future
Why doesn't the turret work on the B-52?
>>562281137yeah
damn it feels good having a mode where toss bombing is actually useful
>>562281983Where's the retard who insisted ARB could never have respawns every time it came up because it would be "exploited"? Lots of egg on that guys face with this event being so well liked
nukes being doomsday weapons feels a lot like boomer cold war propaganda, even the big nuke on the B-52 has a death radius of like 3km, shit barely covers the whole airbasebesides modern nukes dont leave big radiation holes, its just a compact version of a bombing campaign, all this fearmongering is cucking us out of more effective weapons, the US alone could raze most cities with conventional weapons, we need to normalize using tactical yield nukes for regular warfare, the 3 day special operation would have lasted 3 days if russia used well aimed ballistic missiles with nukes instead of lobbing fab-3000s and hoping they hit, the US could have ended the iran war yesterday with nuclear bunker busters
>>562283206What happens when everyone starts using nukes
>>562283297World peace.
>>562283206WMDs are by definition doomsday weapons you fucking retard
>>562283297same as any prolonged war, except it would be way shorter and have less civilian casualties by virtue of not lasting yearsconventional weapons fail to destroy enemy HQ/air defense/missile launchers, you have now to send troops or just spam bombs upon bombs until its destroyed, if its in the middle of a city it becomes an unliveable hellholeinstead you use a nuclear tactical strike with a controlled yield, the target is destroyed in one (1) hit, war is over before dinner and most of the city intact
>>562259504I think it has an altitude limit.
>>562283206>>562283498Nice formating.>>r/NonCredibleDefense
why would anyone play the baseline su-27 in this day and age?
>>562283867For a 13.0 jet it's pretty good even without Fox 3s, and unlike the Su-33, it isn't a morbidly obese pig.
>>562283498Funnily enough a Jew working at LA already made that argument AND created 2 warheads for the implementation of the concept. Guess which goy scrapped em?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_T._Cohen
>>562280871it also helps that its the only good russian plane between 12.0 and 13.0 that's allowed in the gamemode and gets to bully phantoms, skyraiders and warthogs
>>562283991The Yak-141 is the same thing but with an actually good FM, a functional radar and more radar missiles.
>>562284037>functional radar and more radar missilesirrelevant since everybody multipaths sadly, i wish they gave that sad thing r77s already
>>562284125Even if you disregard the radar missiles, the far superior FM still makes it way better than the MiG-29.
>>562284125>>functional radar and more radar missiles>irrelevant since everybody multipathsI get so many fox 1 kills because people believe this.
ez
>>562283980The neutron bomb concept is completely irrelevant to that post about tactical nuclear weapons
when?
>>562284453check lowest br british AA you'll SHIT BRICKS
>>562284526yeah but this one has a HEAVY machine gun :)
>>562284283sure you get the odd retard flying high, but theyre usually picked off by someone else first in my experience>>562284226i guess its personal preference, but i prefer having 50% more missiles than a better flight model where flight models don't matter as much
>>562284226Except the flight model is inferior in every way.
>>562284373>the thing that is custom tailored to solve the problem is "completely irrelevant"Mutt moment.
>>562284526>>562284596AFAIK there was one with an autocanon as well (I think)
Why the fuck can't you lock the big bombers???
>>562284652>muh statshartThat shit is unreliable at best, in an actual in-game 1v1 the Yak bodies the MiG ten times out of ten.
>>562284886ecm
>>562284908From 5km???
>>562285034yeah
>>562285051Burnthrough should start way earlier
>already finished starsgive me more things to grind ANTOOON
What fighter do i use on mutt side? For slavoids i have giga handheld yak141, on mutt side i tried to use f14b and didn't have any luck or fun
>>562283206>>562283498It's because of fallout you bumblingly shortsighted retard. Andrei Sakharov, the father of Soviet Hydrogen Bombs, estimated that for every megaton of nuclear bombs detonated above ground, even if just for testing, there would be approximately 7000 premature deaths. The current estimate for premature deaths from solely US testing between 1951-73 (deaths that just happened between those years) is somewhere between 340,000-460,000, conducted, calculated by the Geneva Center for Security Policy. This was when the USA had "only" tested approximately 138 megatons worth of bombs aboveground. The Tsarbomba project was overseen by Sakharov and was initially to be 100 megatons as Khrushchev demanded but was talked down to again "only" 50 megatons. It's estimated that this one test caused the premature death of over 100,000 people. And those are modern Russian estimates, so do with those numbers what you will)
>>562285226Yak-141 and either F-15A or F-14A IRIAF.
i hope this list becomes longer and the battlerating more contracted
>>562285226F16A is pretty solid, but the F111F is surprisingly strong too just from the sheer amount of CM as well as MAW
>>562233936CAS is useless. It's faster to just farm kills and spawn a game ending nuke
>>562284652>ignoring the mig 29s fuel consumption>ignoring viffingi kneel at this level of pure retardation
I'm not playing the F-14 IRIAF until they put it in the Russian tree
>>562285602>fuel consumption >flight modelCircumcise your tiny brain out of your tiny skull with a shotgun you TROON.
>>562285532You won't spawning the nuke until the escalation is maxed out and you won't be dropping the nuke until you take out the SAM sites.
>>562285669what's with this guy? is this some kind of those fetish things where they stop time and molest the victim?
>>562285782>having to take more fuel and make yourself heavier to not to run of it in the middle of a dogfight has no effect on FMbased retard
>>562285669Which will never happen because market sellers aka der juden chimp out at the mere thought of one of their precious OP event vehicles getting added to a tech tree which will crash most if not all vehicle prices, and then that will cut into Gaijew's 15% cut.
>>562285782there's this batshit insane thing called weight, and contrary to what few believe, liquids tend to have weight just like solids. few people realise this, but weight makes things harder to move.
>>562285881>>562285996Non retarded people don't need 10 minutes to dogfight, you ugly troons.
>>562286216are you aware of how retardedly fast the mig 29 guzzles gas?
>>562286216Yeah I'm sure you just spawn 5 kilometers in front of the enemy with your weapons disabled until the merge so fuel efficiency is a non-concern.
>>562285861Dude was watching a plane and then got hit by The World.
>>562286365damn such is life in godless america
>>562286216In the rare occasion I hate myself enough to play the MiG-29, I take full fuel with a drop tank that adds 10 more minutes, so 40 minutes total. Even then, especially in late game matches, I don't feel comfortable roaming with afterburner if I still have missiles.
>>562286365>The World.qrd?
>>562286552ngmi
this is the first game mode in the history of shart thunder where having actual recon planes to spot targets for nukes would be useful
no matter the amount of shilling i refuse to read nor watch the peak reddit shonenslop that is jojos bizarre sexual adventure
^troon
>>562278251>event about nuking israel
>>562286719this but slopslop no friereddit, redditsaw man and dreddit ball
>>562286719>>562286887>>562286907Talk like normal people.
Where does the 2500sp nuke plane spawn? Can you shoot it down before it drops the nuke?
>>562287023like 20km away from the airfield, the spawn zones are marked on your map with the bomber icon
>>562287023See those airspawn points each team has near the enemy's base? That's where.
>>562286907these too, i remember reading csm vol1 which was just horribly paced though has nice art. and you know what they say about fooling a man twice, you cant get fooled again
>>562287082the art is disgusting putrid dogshit too
>>562285669Congrats, you'll never play it.
>>562285265>the father of Soviet [ANYTHING]so a bumbling idiot who cant tell between his face and his ass? and what fallout if modern hydrogen bombs leave almost no radioactive material, even ground zero of one is relatively clean
>>562286713They should've tested it for the event, this would be such a nice feature to have in ARB. Add 2-3 runways near the center of the map, enable them to be spawned after a certain amount of players on one side have died, and then be actually able to have more than just your retarded teammates to go off of enemy positions.
hey remember that terrain deformation feature they added to the game specifically for bomb craters? why can't we have it for the event? it would be nice if my nuke left a big ol crater instead of a black texture .jpg
>>562287375Terrain deformation is only enabled on mudshit portions of mudsucker maps, I think it requires additional setup that's only done on those portions of those maps.
>>562287375hard to code
okay boys whats the meta for farming spawn points here
>>562287241Eh in defence of the pidors their H-Bomb project was mostly homegrown despite still using some spying>almost no radioactive materialYeah if it's detonated in the air, which is fucking useless for tactical nukes. If it's detonated on the ground, the local radiation is extremely high because it causes fission of nearby materials. So you either have a useless nuclear bomb that produces less radiation, or a useful nuclear bomb that produces substantially more radiation. Absolutely brilliant really.
Kinda sucks I didn't bother grinding the slav tree, event is great but matches takes forever to find as a mutt.
>>562241250They should've made the event early vietnam war kino instead of just making everything a pure top tier missile slinging shitshow.
>>562287672mig 29 913 take 40 flares and multipath while camping the main enemy base. usa consistently has 10x the people in the queue because they have better default vehicles, so youll be rarely fighting anything that can deal with youyou can also try to use CAS to take out the base SPAA but ive found that it's rarely helpful since vikhrs are the only thing that can really deal with them because you dont wanna destroy the base
>>562260071they made a ground strike event so they made the most oppressive ground striker in the BR range bannedquite simple to understand
>>562288161>ground strike event>look inside>even more cod tier pvp gameplay with the occasional mcnuke to just fuck your shit up
>>562288249retard
>>562276752
>>562257121Greg said it was a deathtrap
>>562257617>The MiG-25 event should have been MiG-31Fuck no, the MiG-31 shouldn't be timegated eventshit, it deserves to be at least a permanently available squadron vehicle if not a TT one.
It's kinda silly that they banned av8b+ but not f14
>>562288937Almost like SPAMRAAMs with an F/A-18 radar are more effective than Phoenixes with AWG-9.
>>562288998I never seen half of a team being vaporized by av8 in 2 minutes after ARB starts. Unlike, you know, by f14
>>562257121>worse MiG-23MLlolwut, the mld is a direct upgrade unless youre grinding rank 5 or 9. i played the ml once in the gamemode and the rwr was worse than useless because it annoyed me to no end alerting you of something locking you when theres usually nothing
>>562289086Ever since the nerf the MLD has also remained the only 23 with a workable FM, the rest are just completely awful.
>>562289080That's because the Phoenix takes longer to get to target
>>562289086the only downside of the MLD is the RWR doesn't detect J band
For decades, the Tu-95 carried out combat duty and patrols along the borders of NATO countries. NATO interceptors were constantly scrambled to intercept them, and several fighters were lost during these interceptions: in the 1960s, a British Lightning crashed while maneuvering with a Tu-95[61], in 1967, an American RF-8G Crusader[62][63] crashed into the Atlantic Ocean, and in another incident, an American F-4 Phantom II crashed its tail into the wing of a Tu-95, losing control and the pilots ejected.[64]
don't need that part to fly home
>>562289160>workable flightmodelthat surprises me because i had a great time with the ml, was able to grind to rank 9 starting from rank 5 since it went on sale recently. i guess i never experienced either flight model pre nerf but it feels almost unfair with how well you can turn with wingsweep, the only big issue ive had with the fm is energy bleed at high speed
>>562275254phantom is p fast you dont need anything else
>>562289479The difference is literally night and day.
>>562289256So it's completely unplayable in ARB
>>562289572holy fuck that's brutal, im now really glad i didnt play any mig23 variant pre nerf or it would have probably completely ruined the experience for me
actually playing the objective is impossible because the roland and osa are fucking broken and impossible to avoid
>type75 rocket into 2s1 hulltake out some engine components>hits me in the track with heat-fsoverpressure
>>562289742>keep far to not get instagimped>have to climb for your munitions to hit>keep close so you can multipath while attacking ground targets>instaraped by a gun spaa)
>>562289915Your CCRP? Works like a charm for me.
>>562289995all my munitions get intercepted and then im too high and get nigged by s300 and buks
>>562289742Actual dedicated CAS planes are basically worthless at the moment. You pretty much need to just afterburn in and drop dumb bombs and burn out.
>>562290146bombs don't get intercepted thoughever
>3800 score in 4 hoursyeah im ngmi, i think it would be a fun mode if everyone had the same planes but i simply cannot compete with enemies or allies for base kills
>>562290240Spam small nukes on fuel/ammo depots and medium nukes on small airfields from CCRP following low level interdictions, easy 8k+ score a game.
>>562290201i wasted 20 minutes climbing from the back of the map in my a-4e only to have my paveways and skippers intercepted
>>562289915osas routinely hit me at 20-30 ralt
>>562289086MLD is better than the ML, so as a premium plane, you get the worse MiG-23ML while the US teams have access to the premium F\A-18, F-20, F-4S and F-14 IRIAF event vehicle.
>Your AI gunners in naval/planes are a bunch of useless idiots that will happily waste hundreds of rounds of ammo>Meanwhile NPC AIs all have perfect aim and don't follow any actual rule
>>562290595Reminder that Osas and Rolands don't actually radar lock you and just dumb fire missiles with perfect accuracy.
>>562290841The event would be boring with ARB tier AAA
>kill AAs and die until I finally have enough for a nuke>some rednigger manages to survive the ocean of osas and buks just to suicide nuke the airfield I was taking off from
Flarakpanzer > Gepard > Bradley in that order Spam Vikhrs from 8km at the FlarakpanzerSend one (1) Vikhr at the Gepard from 4kmSend two (2) Vikhrs at the Bradley There's no more to it
imagine if this worked for events lmao
>>562291480*Die to a Roland while guiding them*
>>562290841AA in naval is laser accurate when it's AI controlledThe same AA gun, if under the secondary category on your specific ship, has a CEP of about 50km if AI controlled, because gaijin is fucking braindead retardedBut yes air gunners were raped back in 2015 or so and never unraped
>>562291480you have not played the event for one second
I'm surprised a 5kt did this much damage
>>562288535I had one drift behind me for like 20 seconds. That was scary...Should've taken a picture
>>562291778I'm quite literally in a match doe
>>562291587it does I constantly see people quitting and new people coming in
>>562291993yeah you can't fucking turn it off and wait for fresh matches nigga
>>562292025ohhh, well shit happens
The luster kinda wears off when you realize all this mode is is just people slamming into each other like chimps until someone spawns a game ending nuke
>>562292103Not really, you can do more than just PvP so it's a lot more varied than the constant minmaxing compshit slop of normal ARB.
>>562292262I wish we had more maps for it
>>562292262I guess you can go die to AA guns for little gain if you want? Or waste your SP on the shitty little nukesDunno bro I'm just killing feeding retards and auto-winning for it
>nuclear event>no truth nuke decalwhat were they THINKING ???
wow war would be a lot cooler if eveyrone used tactical nukes
I assume this is just for me and people I'm queuing with and not the whole team?
I keep queueing soviets and losing because the average person that is on these teams has major life difficulties keeping the drool inside their mouthThe real reason the teams are imbalanced is because the average sovietsissy has an IQ of 2"durr was a missule"
>>562294246Whole team
>>562294246the teamwhich is why i never use those
>>562294264Almost like forcing everyone into near top-tier jets and telling them to get eaten alive by radar missiles was a bad idea
>>562294461No people should be required to do an IQ test before they get on my teamWhat's the fucking point if I go and nuke the patriot batteries but they let a nigger just nuke the airfields?
Maybe I just got unlucky and was facing competent enemies but the IRIAF isn't as handheld as I thought it would be, the fact that everyone's multipathing is really screwing it over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining that I don't get 4 free kill rods of god and I absolutely do NOT want multipathing gone, I just find the F-15A so much better against enemies who don't climb and/or know how to defend. The 7Fs are no ERs but they're still good, and 9Ms are simply criminal, plus that FM means you have absolutely nothing to fear in WVR.
the problem with letting everyone use nukes freely is now all the conventional weapons aren't really worth bothering withit really makes you think
Real chinksect hours. I'll never get the chinese obsession with winning/grinding
mig25pd would be really cool if there were more than 2 bombers spawning per hour played
>562295168
trying to play the objective but you're getting raped by undodgeable magically tracking saclos sams and all your munitions get immediately intercepted?just coordinate and work with your team axaxaxa
>one trillion ground targets>no CBUs>no dispensersANTOOOON
>>562295438The funniest thing is coordination doesn't even work when a single AA unit is capable of no-selling a plane's entire payload on its own
>562295386ywnbc
>>562295692That's because the AA doesn't need to reload at all, it always has a missile at the ready. It's literally impossible to overwhelm something like that, and that's to say nothing of the laser-accurate Gepards/Shilkas. Make their loaded ammo limited (the total can remain unlimited so they don't deteriorate to uselessness as the match goes on, or better yet tie it to dynamically spawning supply convoys you can intercept to avoid the AA resupplying), tone down the accuracy a tad and teamwork could actually begin to work.
>shockwaves have 0 effect on planes outside of instant death region>not even a fucking camera shakeANTON
has anyone gotten A2A ARM kills yet
>If I select one of the three different missiles I have I am no longer capable of using any of my other non-missile weapons until I either turn selection off or switch to themWhy is everything in this game so half-assed
What those nigger devs did to a bomb physics?Bombs phasing through fuselage was always an issue, it became 100000% more prevalent since ninth wave.I had a nuke stuck to phagtome while bomb tossing. Missed a fucking airfield because of that
>>562296212>that descriptionWhat the fuck does mudshittery even have to do with Air?
>playing event su24 doesn't unlock modules for tech tree su24
>>562296484everything the event gives you is not only spaded, it also has aced crew, what did you EXPECT
>>562296484>why isn't a completely separate vehicle added just for the event giving you module xp for another vehicle
I'm more annoyed I'm not allowed to use the nukes/ARMs on my own planes desu
LOL
>>562296735To be able to make custom loadouts for said event vehiclesNo anton I don't want 4 R-60M's with my Kh-29's let me carre some dumb rockets thereNo anton I don't want xboxhueg drop tanks with the nuke the plane has plenty of fuel alreadyNo anton I don't want R-60M's with the nuke on the MLD on the pylons that can carry R-24's
>>562296212>cant compete with Russchads without massive bias>still loselmfao at mutt players kek
Really hope this event is a tease for a rework of ARB. AAs just need to be fine-tuned and air objectives added. I could even see them increasing the map size once gen 5s are in.
>>562297998Same, this is so overwhelmingly better it's genuinely fucking unreal. Dying and not raging because it's not a big deal at all is so refreshing.
>>562297998We have these kinds of events all the time. Did you already forgot about SEAD?
vehicles for gay black men?
>>562283206this, just look at Toropets
>>562298758your moms car
>>562298641SEAD was a small, basic event that played largely like ARB, and it was said from the start that it's merely a test of some aspects of whatever it was leading up to (the mysterious Aerial Warfare mode, whose descriptions sounded a suspicious lot like this current event). The sheer amount of effort that went into this mode, far above any previous April Fools' event, as well as the fact that its assets have been datamined long ago combined with the aforementioned similarity to Aerial Warfare, suggest they have big plans for it.
i have seen the ai capture an enemy supply depot oncei'm trying to help it advance but it's impossible. if it doesn't get nuked it stops for some reason, i assume the enemy ai is shooting it but i don't know from where and scouting is both risky and difficult because ground units often appear only when you're super close
>Tu-95 gets FAB9000>B52 gets thermal camera with no guided weapons and dysfunctional rear turret
is this actually a game mode where fulcrums are decent for once?
>>562288161The Su-25s ground striking capabilities are complete ass compared to a hurled 5 kt nuke
>>562299034Brvtally mogged by Yak-141 in every aspect.
why couldn't the just put the 3x AGM-65 racks on the harrier
What brs are those bombers again? Is it time to dust off Vautour?
>>562298641Yeah and this is the first time ARB actually felt fun and refreshing. Dying didn't suck, nukes aren't just for show but actual utility, matches aren't just mindless brawls, you don't get third-partied by 5 other niggers just for trying to 1v1 somebody. This shit is great, but I can see gaijin taking a year minimum to implement this and honestly, I don't mind playing more GRB in the meantime.
>>562298758anything russian
>>5622991068.3/8.7>time to dust off the vautourYeah, but guns only as they have chaff, sadly. Or manual AA Nord guidance.
>>562299113Ground desperately needs a mode with similar sandboxy, low-stakes, large scale overall but with small-scale individual engagements design philosophy desu.
>>562299094physically not enough space and also too heavyit's really annoying
>>562297998The reason there is so much AA is because the event is all about SEAD. For a real mode, I would think it would have less AA all over the place and more ground troops advancing, maybe even infantry, or even some of those trench lines from the [Front Line] game mode. But this mode is really fun never the less, but I wish the ARMs weren't intercepted by every little thing so it feels like I can be effective in taking out SAMs and such.
>>562298916just wait until it gets the full GBU-39 loadout
>use 250% booster>load in>game ends LITERALLY 2 seconds later before I can even select vehicle to spawn because setting to not join in progress battles doesn't work for eventsAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN I AM GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU IN REAL LIFE THIS IS AN ACTIONABLE STATEMENT OF INTENT
>>562299247I think the pre-1991 variant depicted in game (as seen by the presence of the M61 in the tail) can only get the AGM-86C. Anything more modern would necessitate the removal of the tail gun.
>>562299208AIM-7C is CW, right?
LET ME REMOVE THE SIDE ERA ON THE 2S38ANTOOOOON
>>562299560The only non-CW missiles in the game are>AIM-4F>the Swiss AIM-26B clone>AIM-9C>R-3R>R511>R530>Super 530F (the only one to get a rudimentary chaff filter that SOMETIMES works)
>>562298758t-80 black eagle
>>562299083>papershitmodern wt was a mistake
>>562299778Wouldn't the radar of the F3H or whatever has the AIM-7C still shit itself against a chaffing Tu-95?
>>562299113The matches are still mindless brawls in the middle. Having p2w planes and sp for pvp kills the mode
>>562300239The missile should keep tracking, it's looking for a speed differential, which chaff don't have, not the biggest return. Unless ECM prevents that, there isn't much info on exactly how it fits into radar mechanics at the moment.
>>562300581SP is only needed for PvE though, the only thing that costs SP are the nukes. That's the single best way they could've gone about respawning, frankly.
>>562300581It's just the Gen 4s that are causing problems. Remove all of them.
>>562295238R-40tds are still excellent, and r60ms are useful.
>>562260071Probably someone seething about thermals
>>562300820Yeah and with enough SP you can end the game with 0 counterplay
>>562301097Somebody needs to knock out the patriots before you can do that
>>562297821Played 6 matches yesterday. All 6 won by the US.
>>562260071overwhelming armament )))
I kind of want to shoot down a b-52 with a kh-25ml.
They should remove name tags from the mode
>>562301446I agree!
>>562301293That or an anti radiation missile.
>>562301446Fuck no, name tags is what gives the mode an element of strategy. Without them, your actions would be entirely reactive as you'd have no clue what you're facing until it's too late to adjust your approach.
>No Genies or FalconsMissed opportunity.
>>562301446Fuck no, the spotting system is still trash and people don't exist beyond 8-10km
>>562301158But they respawn instantly.
>>562301537makes no sensewait
>>562301158Doesn't seem to be the case
Also Fireflash, it's utter shit but should be good against those big bombers, as intended.
>>562301554>name tags let me know if I'm clubbing a Gen 3 or if the opponent can fight back against my f14/15
>>562301446you wouldnt have fun if that happened
>>562301554>Fog of war is badThen make the name tags always be visible.
>>562301641Noise clutter Ecm drawns in home on jam/anti radiation missiles.
>>562301640funny ))))aa batteries just respawn out of thin air )))and they easily intercept all arms you throw at them )))))))))balanced ))))))))))))))
>>562301720It works the other way around too retard, those same Gen 3s know who to avoid and who they can actually engage. Without nametags they'd be dying to Gen 4s WAY more.
>>562301158lol no they don't
>>562302135>>562302135>>562302135
>>562301914>yeah let me run away with my A-10
>>562284787No retard, radiation bombs aren't in the same category as low yield tactical weapons. This is only hard to grasp if you are intellectually disabled
