just vibecode it >Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn (embed)>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>562117029
Idle games? Who's playing these things? People on disability?
>>562244094millions dollar idea: toyota islamic freedom fighter idle game with a skill tree
>>562244330
Update: Every unit has their own custom sprite(some have portraits). Implemented a new fatigue system. Implemented a new action points system. Implemented variable map + team size. Online play seems to finally be free of de-syncs(as far as i know).
>>562244330People with disabilities AKA gamercunts
>>562244094I was hoping this would've been the OP image
>>562244330>People on disability?There's more existential dread than ever before and while games might have once been escapism offering alternative avenues of mastery for many people it is now primarily a distraction and a time-waster. Hence why the most popular game mechanics are gambling, progression and co-op.
>>562244094So when do you think you will be able to get by without an art guy? Hunyan 3.1 is scary good
Idea guys are the new devchads thanks to vibecoding.Be afraid code monkeys.
>>562245249I'm so afraid.
>>562245249Good morning saar
@wastelandbites 'ow many wishlists do you 'ave? 'ow many months did you spend making the game?Please reply as if I were a girl.
WHAT THE FUCK WHAT IS AN APRIL 1ST UPDATE IN CLAUDE CODE?????? THAT SHIT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME
>>562245929The Pokemon NFTs? Everyone already knew about it yesterday because of the leak.
You fucking tell me
>>562246672you will never be him
>>562244845>>562244767That will be $400
>>562245929>WHAT THE FUCK WHAT IS AN APRIL 1ST UPDATE IN CLAUDE CODE?????? THAT SHIT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME
>>562246963Its so over for art bros.
Just be a sociopath.
>>562245249I have so many ideashere's one, but be warned. It's pretty fucking wild. you are an adventurer and your dragon wife wants something to eat, but the stinky dungeon below is messing with her appetite, so you brave the dungeon below, hacking and slashing all the filthy, disgusting goblins (i hate goblins) and then afterwards you bake her a cake. you snuggle. the after credits is you holding her claw.
>>562244681cris FVARKING WON
>>562249660The idea of baking monsters into food isn't a bad one
>>562244681cris took his meds
>>562250092>>562250315uhm... he's not cris...
>>562246796You're not helping
>>562251163relax
>>562249584I need to. I'm really trying. If you're not scamming gamercunts and feeding low effort slop to gamercunts you are a fucking sucker.
>>562251232I've been trying to solve this problem for the last 2 days mf, I'm not "Relaxing."
>>562251965Maybe that's what you are lacking right now to fix your problem.
>>562252156....Maybe you were right.>Stepped back>Realized I organized the Transform[] list incorrectlyBLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
>>562249660Is the stinky dungeon her giant dragon pussy?
The name of my game sounds suspiciously close to Undertale and it makes me want to kill myself
>>562244330demoralized people who are tired between work and house chores and just want to kill time while feeling a sense of progress without any effort. So, most of the population (thanks, jews!).>>562245249name 5 instances of idea guys making games using AI. Hell, I'll settle for one.
>>562252818>The name of my game sounds suspiciously close to Undertale and it makes me want to kill myself
>>562252818Undertail-dev is that you
Fuck I've just been paid. I can survive another month thank god
>>562252847What if you have fair-enough-skills at anything else except programming?
>>562246963What the fuck? I mean its not perfect but that's way better than the shit AI 3d models from a few months ago, what happened?
>>562252931Considerations: distance to target, has target, health, ammo, line of sight.
>>562246963can we see the topology?
>>562253227Tripo 3.1 looks to be even betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXXUH0_MFCw>>562253640It's not good. I haven't tried Tripo3d (which seems to be better) but these hunyan meshes could work as a base to start working. You can't ditch artists yet it seems
>>562254125UE5 topology type beat
>AI is actually going to replace vert monkeysHahaha!
>>562254275>>562254275It looks amazing if you don't zoom in.
>>562252818Maybe don't call it Bungerdale
>>562254361It probably will eventually but right now all these 3d ai models look like crap. Due to the sheer size of meshes I imagine it's a lot harder to train a proper model with good topology. There's not a massive library of GOOD meshes out there for some faggot to just scrape data from either. Sketchab might be the closest but there's an extreme amount of utter dog shit on that site too so you really need manual verification.
>>562254125God this is nightmare fuel
>internet gets flooded with shitty AI meshes before AI can scrape enough good mesehes and learn good topology.it's over before it began. AI bros, we have to take the L on this one.
>>562255025>>562254804As an artist I think these are ok, maybe not perfect but they could prove to be useful.
>>562255258>these are okyou must be a shitty artist lol
>>562255461I'm not really that good, but not that bad either.
>>562255609How did you do that hair?
>>562255650Very slowly
"Good" topology is highly overrated.
>>562255232Topology is just a measure of how good it conforms to the texture, normals distortion during animations, which is measurable. I'm sure they're training models already but just shitty doing this or they don't have the compute or some other shit or they're not even doing this yet but it's measurable so trainable.
>>562255609so how would you use the mesh? you're not thinking of retopocucking...
>>562255871that's almost perfect topogy in comparison to what AI gives.
>>562255818What's the method? Good lord I wish I could model like this
>>562255891As a base to sculpt. You can't avoid retolopology Or generating static meshes like couches, chairs and such.
>>562255871The topology on her butt mattered more
>>562255884I was told this 3 years ago. by the time AI can do it, we won't have computers anymore
>>562256019I wasn't used to so many strands either. It was painful but that was the job. placing each fucking clump and moving them around until they start to look good. Building the shape of the hair little by little.
>>562256064>You can't avoid retolopologyI avoid it every waking moment
>>562256249Well if you do low poly then that's easy.
>>562246963>>562244845okay I unironically tried it
>>562256224So do you start from planes or from a cube?
>>562256432Things are getting easier. Use grok to generate a reference, use the reference in hunyan
>>562256340I enjoy sculpting, I enjoy lowpoly. I don't enjoy retopo. quadremesh isn't enough. I'm waiting for AI to take my sculpt and turn it into a gen 7 model.
what do i do if my game plays much better if i zoom the camera way out, but it makes everything look ugly? am i a fraud if i hinder the gameplay just for looks? is 64x137 too big for a player character sprite did i f$#% up? can i just only allow the game to be played on a 4k monitor or is that illegal?
>>562256616I used 4 sided strands and placed them around. The meshes also use a custom normals. Maybe this will help understand that:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DptPx8sY7Bg>>562256813I enjoy it too but it just takes too long to make
>>562257014Readjust your art?
>>562257197I meant more the actual hair in of itself rather than how it visually looks. Alpha-whatchamacallit they do with hair I can do later.Like, where do I even start? Do I create a separate object? Mold it out of the scalp?I'm confused
>>562257225but i spent so long on it
>>562257014surely there is a cleaner way to zoom out
>>562257353NTA but it's just a quad which you merge the tip then bend it on the edge a bit and then just manually or using modifiers or curves place across the head
finally solved some long standing issues now, model parsing format is almost fully stable, procedural vehicle animations almost stable
>>562257479tough shit should have thought of that before
>>562257353It's hard to explain, it was hard to do for me too. You start by checking what you want to make and planning how the hair flows then you start placing chunks. I don't think there's a shortcut. I made this 4 sided banana meshes and started to place them around the scalp
>>562257615So I extrude and combine?
>>562257767Again NTA you can extrude the entire mesh if you combine and are happy with the shape for extra depth in the end but just any 3D modelling hair tutorial will show you these steps
make hair from lowpoly banana. ez
>>562257982It's not though lol. At least not for me, maybe for you it is.
>>562257767>>562257860Just search for "3d modelling hair card"Picked this one at random https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzWgD3uNS1o
>>562258061if I was in VR and could just stretch and place the bananas
>>562244094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p2u0_nyOMQPost your motivational music
>>562258307dang. she's cute in a "needs a bag over her head" kind of way.
>>562257615>>562258113I didn't ask you, tranny, I asked him >>562257197fucking shut the fuck up troon
>>562258307If you're a somewhat good looking woman you're cheating anyway.
>find a cool library>it was made by some boomer>I have to fix a bunch of stuff just to make LSP work with itwhy is this so common
>>562258482>>find a cool library>>it was made by some boomer>>I have to fix a bunch of stuff just to make LSP work with it>why is this so common
>>562258424you're not the one who asked either, you're just shitposting
>>562258518found the boomer who created the library
>>562258878>found the boomer who created the library
>>562258878>>>562258518>found the boomer who created the library
>>562258476>If you're a somewhat good looking woman you're cheating anyway.ABC.Always Be Cheating.
>>562256694ZAMN!
i talk to the ai to bounce ideas off of, but it wont stop telling me how great every idea of mine is.
>>562259182>Lol artists are fucked man. How that make you feel artoids?
>>562258307That's a jew.>>562259010When are you idiots going to discuss gamedev? Your shitty ai garbage is trash and you are worthless trash for not even using the trash!
>>562259202maybe they're good ideas?
>>562259273>maybe they're good ideas?
>>562259273i dont believe it
>>562258573TRVKE
ME IS STRENGTH.ME IS MIGHTME IS POWER.I BROIL CRABS
>>562259202Pitch this idea:>A game where you are overseeing an extermination camp for jews and other non-whites, which has in depth logistic problems that need to be solved cleverly by the player.
>>562259476Great but you can't monetize it
>>562258476so youre saying that women cannot be gamedevs? thats mysoginticis
>>562259250No really how does it make you feel? I want to know.
>>562259983>No really how does it make you feel? I want to know.
>>562258476Didn't help this bad mama jama avoid a failed kickstarter.
>>562259182>>562259250On one hand it will make it easier for me to make models. On the other my payment per hour will go down.I think the solution is to not depend on 3d models alone but to make games. Experiences. I can program somewhat anyway. So I'm not going to be fucked.
>>562259534Yeah you can. Just change the names a little.>Natsi overseer that kylls the chews and nyggars.There you go. These fucking idiot consumers are too stupid to get it.
>>562260230>Yeah you can. Just change the names a little.>>Natsi overseer that kylls the chews and nyggars.>There you go. These fucking idiot consumers are too stupid to get it.
>>562259998oooh he mad tho
>>562260310>oooh he mad tho
>>562260171I'd back her but not that kickstarter.
>>562260171She came with feminist girl boss vibes. You need to cater to white knights, not women.
>>562259471sir please kindly stop mogging us
you use ai to make your gamei use ai to make a hot woman to advertise my gamewe are not the same
>>562244673Gamercunts will say this shit to virtue signal then drop a negative review on a game because it doesn't get consistent updates after a decade which means its "dead" and "the devs have abandoned it".
>>562260629She's so hot I wouldn't mind her bossing me around. Like imagine her yelling at me while I'm programming, then she sits on my lap and starts programming cus she thinks she can do it betterthen I get a bonerand I say>Index out of bounds exception: chances with this baddie are outside of the bounds of my rizzthen she LOLs in my face and spits on me and tells me to get back to work. That would be so funny haha.
>>562260698When gamers say they want shorter games, they're saying that they want 3-15 hour long games with minimal grinding for $4.99 instead of 50-90 hour long games that's just 90% grind for $69.99.
>>562260930>Average>15 to 50 hoursThis is demoralizing as shopping for dildos and seeing a 7 incher labeled as a beginner's.
>>562260630I don't think I did
>>562260930I just want a good 30 minutes. don't pad it out. give me all you have in 30 minutes and I give you $5 and promise i wont refund
>>562257479Nobody notices or cares about the effort you put in. What matters is results
>>562260846>then I get a boner
>>562257479I mean, maybe you could reduce?
Why do you enjoy making me lose?
>>562257479Get Spine or DragonBones, trace a character you like to use as base and draw on top the changes so it looks like your character, use AI if you must, learn to use Spine or DragonBones and animate it there. How? Use fucking reference. Or hire some artist for 10 usd/hour to do the design for a couple of hours.
>>562260171I felt bad when I saw that video
>>562262292I felt horny.
I don't like lolis anymore so I'm changing all of my characters to be mature women. Sorry, guys.
>>562263738Actual improvement. Too bad it's just for april fags day.
>>562258307>10 years
>>562263738kanna would never...
>>562263738>Loli>Has wide hipsFix it
>>562263738
>>562244767>Thinking his doodoo ass image would be OPHow silly.
>>562265350retard, lmao
>>562265750He has talent though
>>562233357It fucking SUCKS
>>562265843Talent can only go so far when you have no motivation.
>>562265843
I was expecting game physics to do a lot with integration techniques but people often settle for semi-implicit Euler.>>562263738You took the April Fools joke too far ...
>>562265998You guys are so jaded you can't recognize a real compliment
>>562265750Jealous that ur not in it? ;0
>>562266180I see, so it's profound mental retardation.
I am going to have AI make every one of my scripts. After all, why shouldn't I?
>>562265789>>562263738Fine I'll do it myself
>>562265998>1754320124904836.jpg
>>562266362
>>562266362>faggot shit>>562263738>actually goodWhy must Kannafag be a pedophile scumbag?
I just realized Ericschizo hasn't been here for a good while. I guess he couldn't match the power level of our current schizos and spammers.
>>562266708
>>562258113I hate it. I can't get it lower-poly and it won't do the grid thing.This looks like shit
>>562266708Eric denied his advances
I got my FPS script going well, but I'm trying to fine-tune the movement. So right now, when you sprint, you aren't focused forward, you can effectively sprint in any direction while moving the camera. Since sprint doesn't last very long in this prototype, and most likely never will, should I keep sprint focused forward, or let the camera be operable and move around while sprinting? I think of it like you're simply looking behind you or to the side, without having to introduce more input keys. What do you guys think? Pros, cons? And what about full stop when you let go of movement keys? Should there be slight momentum when let go?
>>562267119Yeah that method works best the more triangles you have. You have to move vertexes around manually if you want to use less triangles. Even then the hairs I made are about 2000 triangles each. The hairs took me about 6 hours each. Maybe I'm just slow. Texturing was rather easy
>>562266605kanna is based
>>562265750seethe
I sense estrogen
Added zombie boys and animations. Still getting the hang of it
Fygoon is based, I miss him
>>562269124Based on what?
>>562267850Well it shows because that hair looks incredible I’m just angry. What was the method you used to create a hair?
>>562269220based on god. we're all gods children, anon.
>>562269124many are saying this, he was entertaining hate him or love him
>>562268798
>>562269124>>562269434Nice try faggot but we hate you and your game is garbage and you are ugly and you are a jeet spreading hate on every other dev because your game is garbage.
>>562268798This game is cris coded
>>562269664>webig communist hive mind energy
>>562269263What kind of hair are you trying to model. You have a reference right? You need it to see how the hair flows, so that you can plan where to place the meshes
>>562269664CHADgoon is a national hero in here, thats non negotiable
>>562257014Gameplay always takes priority over art. Either put in a good linear filter or make the art fit.
Dev musichttps://youtu.be/it5wuAgf1Pw?si=qlxmWmHjbAzaN6iOhttps://youtu.be/lYfkl-HXfuU?si=uuKdTBGaRyeIZxIihttps://youtu.be/T6wo7bfYYu4?si=_QAiWPDqOpq3RbnShttps://youtu.be/qORYO0atB6g?si=3BZWzkH6O63b3BIUhttps://youtu.be/vdw-dI_Z78M?si=8_3PrHiUI-hrUy61
>>562269804Reminder that the main villain of The Frydarian Tale is a communist dinosaur.
>>562269867I have a reference I drew, but if I had to choose a more detailed reference I'd say I'm sort of choosing how Ohma's hair was drawn in early Kengan.What was the method that you used to create your hairs? The same one I am?
>>562257014Or maybe a dynamic camera zoom like most modern 2D games implement, then you can have sections where the character looks good and sections where it is really far away.
>>562267119watch this, you cant get it to look low poly using curves that easilyI recommend you to model it by handhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKYUWI44lQ
>kanna shows up>suddenly the fygoon schizo goes into full attention whore modeim nooticing
>>562270425I'm more looking for "PS2 hair."
28 renders today and grok haven't stopped me, that's weird
>>562270616Shut the fuck up, AliceFag.
>>562270616
>>562269038Love this. I got into gamedev with the goal of meeting Eric someday. Its a silly thing. I like to daydream about releasing my game then going to games con. Im tending to my booth and minding my own business before I see a little shimmer in the corner in my eye>It must be nothing, I think to myself as I push thots away from grabbing my joystickAs the night goes on, those quick shimmers continue before turning to a bright light.A silhouette it looks to be approaching me. Is this it? Is this the end?I begin to sweat. Its not just regular sweat, no. Its a cold sweat. The exact opposite of the warm sweat I felt from the groupie thots body heat just moment before.And then he appearedLevi Jacket, cool expression. Everything I ever dreamed of. Eric Barone in the flesh.>Oh man. Did I get my booth number wrong? Please don't tell me this is where Haunted Chocolatier was supposed to be set up. FuckBefore I can fall into a full-blown panic, Eric reaches his hand out for a fist bump>Hey man! Glad I was able to catch you at your booth! Just wanted to say I really dig your game, it's actually inspired me to restart Chocolatier from the ground up. Not sure I could compete with you as it is.Wow! An actual compliment from my very own hero®Dreams really do come true. I shoo the thots away and we get to talking.Idle chit chat turns into game dev discussion, almost as if we were hosting our own /agdg/ in real life.Next thing I know, Eric is offering me to help on his game! We're officially a team. Years pass, and HC is released. After the release celebration I return home. And what is awaiting me on my porch? A small parcel.I open it up, and its a matching Levi Jacket. Im officially part of the club. But whats this? Something in the pocket?I reach inside to find a note>Thanks anon for helping with HC. You were my side kick at one point, but now I'm glad to call you a friend.Pic rel is me reading the note that Eric left for me
>>562270294uhm... basado.commies are in fact the enemies
>>562270294isnt there a schizo that used that dinosaur to post about that pony cartoon or final fantasy?
>>562270616This screenshots kills everything he believed in. His greatest inspiration sided with the furries.
>>562270319Is there a name for the method? I don't know. The hair you want is rather complex. Break it down first. Place first big clumps to get the shape and they add thinner strands to get the messiness. I would give it a try but I'm trying to finish a client's work.
can your ip get blacklisted by glowies from itch.io? what does it take to get your game indexed on there?
>>562271351im not a furry but star fox and falco are cool charactersalso, I would totally fuck krystal
>>562271316only crossover episode I can think of involving fygoon is the webm where the lizard is getting fucked in the ass by a black man
>>562271373I don't mean this 1-1, but like, just generally messy and unkempt
>>562271485>im not a furry>I would totally fuck krystal
>>562271485Fox was cool until the Wii U. This new one is full Zootopia.
>>562271717I would do it like this, fist the big green, blue and pink, then fill gaps with red thinner strands.
>>562271373how can i cut me 'air like that
How about I take my motherfucking goddamn covenant, chase you down in the middle of the fucking snow, bitch. You're running.
so who's gonna make an ai fygoon model?
>>562267516plz answr me
>>562271903God you're really skilled.I know I can resize the vertices to make the hair look different. How many "Strands" should I aim for each "Layer" of hair?Because this is too many, but I can reorganize if I must.
>>562271492no it wasnt goon it was a guy from /v/ a few years ago cant remember his name but his gimmick was posting that purple dinosaur
>>562270294>elenacringe>bubsaybased
do you (you) think I can vibecode a terraria? efficiently
>>562272874probably but it's going to be poo
>>562272874no
>>562272874>do you (you) think I can vibecode a terraria? efficiently
>>562267516Sounds unintuitive, just do the teaditional sprint camera lock. Unless you are making some experimental game where the player needs to look to the sides while sprinting.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCCHOzg3GS8Is this just an Asian genes thing? Will Cris never make it because he's brown?
>>562272942I want to make starbound 2 so great
>>562270294>>562269989>>562269773>>562269124This is all the same person. He always tries to put everyone else down and make the threads about himself.This retarded ugly schizo jeet samefags every thread to give the illusion that somebody still wants him here.A few days ago he was caught samefagging on /v/ shitting on other devs because he is too dumb to realise he was posting progress with pictures with the same name format and the pictures he was using to shit on other devs.Shoe sized IQ subhuman jeetard. No different than the call center jeet scammers pretending to be someone else.Know this, it could save your life
>>562273381I don't know how people do it, I have a degree in fine arts and all I learned about in school was piss and toilets
>>562273504projection breeds jealousy
>>562272320
>>562273331>sprint camera lockthat's what I meant, i didnt know how to word it.thanks fren, I'll just keep it simple.
>>562273381https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDtQTTAogkIf you have a decent IQ you're able to learn things easily.If you're able to learn things easily then you just need practice consistently.
>>562273589Gee i wonder who you are
i'm going to get my shit together and make a game worthy of uploading to steam or die trying. itch is just a graveyard for half-baked projects.
>>562273818I'm betz, fool. You can bet on that, schizo.
>>562273381It's called having dedication and discipline. Surprise, surprise, shitposting all day on 4chud will get you nowhere if you actually want to do something with your life.
>>562273504yes you caught me, im your thread enemy and worst nightmare, always post about me when you see me
>>562272320I think that's too much for something low poly but it depends, it could look good if you arrange them and layer more hair on top.>>562273616I gave it quick try but you could keep refining it, filling all the gaps, adding more strands, etchttps://gofile.io/d/PdadHDhttps://gofile.io/d/iRxF6B
>>562274181>>562273616That's kinda what I mean. Just a lot bigger and messier.God you're good. I'm saving this stuff m8
>>562273381>>562273539>>562273803>>562273926Prompted and then drew over the prompt
>>562274674>Prompted and then drew over the prompt
>>562273381>day 1 has his own style>day 365 has AI styleinteresting. same thing happened to pewdiepie
You got assbeatings?
>>562270247hey froggy, saw this and thought in your physics enginehttps://x.com/crypticsea/status/2039508451320340684>>562273504>shitting on other devsyou'll know that you're into something when people like them start shitting on your progress
O Let's do it
>>562274652>>562274181How's this?I mostly said Ohma because it was the only visual reference I could think of for "Messy-ass hair" in the correct length
>>562275607Cool! Some of these guys can churn things out so quickly. I'm envious haha.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWByIZiggNM/borderline psychopathic promotion strategybro farmed this twice, first clip he did the same thing when his game grossed 30k a day after launchthis is insanitysomething about this feels very wrong to mei'm not sure this is a reliable method for game promotionhe'll need to learn foundational marketing strategies or his next game will failvaguely similar to the boy who cried wolf, this will not work foreverdo not rely on this strategy
>>562276392Its looking better. Try adding another layer on top, I would try to avoid clipping between strands but if you are going to use a custom normal that might not be needed
>>562275052
>>562276837Fuck that amount would fix my whole life.
>>562276985When you say clipping you mean intersection?Yeah, that's a problem albeit a given. You're giving good advice, man.
>>562277249Yeah, like this one here in red
>>562276837Don't be dumb. He PAID The Respawn to feature the video and he PAID Moist Critical to react to the first video.It's all under the table cash.
>>562277306That's gonna be hard to get rid of considering I have a few of his back-hair strands cling very close to his head to get everything nice and covered, but I can try to move stuff around to get closer to that result.You take courses or is this a job?
>>562277057
post your game engine stats
>>562277545my engine isn't on steam>46565445 hours
>>562277508I like to get rid of it. If you keep the segments aligned like this its easier. But that takes more time of course
>>562278545>>562277508See mine are mostly aligned
>>562258307What's the name of this bitch's game? I want to have a laugh at it but it's obscured in her video.
>>562278709So make sure nothing crosses over layers of hair?Fair point
>>562278734>I want to have a laugh at it but it's obscured in her video.Retard
>>562278734nvm, found it Potions: A Curious TaleIt's straight out zoomer mobile dogshitNo way this silly goose worked 10 years on it, maybe a year
>>562279185anon, have you ever interacted with a... "woman"they use emotion to manipulate others into doing what they want.
>>562279185What's your game? She has been through a lot. Death threats. Just for making a game. You'd quit and hide, like you are doing now.
How autistic can I be?I'm just optimizing pre-mature-ly https://youtu.be/BXlYuaycRbU?si=i2L_ZFCj2xsDSl5l
>>562278857I'm just wondering what the safe margin of error for that is
>>562279185I played the demo, it didn't seem that bad. It's just too expensive for my 3rd worlder ass, I would rather buy RDR2
now that claude is dying where do we go from here?
>>562279973Closed source secrets get released into the open source ecosystem. It ain't stealing if you "rediscover" the methods.
>>562279973nigga just write your fucking codeare you that retarded?
>>562279973Just use chatgpt?
>>562280302>Just use chatgpt?
>>562279736While in all honesty, I don't particularly mind the way it looks, I think that I gotta remove more clipping.I don't know if this is better or worse.
>>562267516>sprintNGMI
>>562277545>launching from SteamISHYGDDT
>>562281327grim
>>562281327You've fixed some of the clipping but I still see it too bunched. Maybe this can help you visualize what I mean by adding another layer and aligning the segments. If you align them then you can easily avoid clipping
>>562282887God you’re good at this.You know what I should do? Re-arrange everything
>>562260171Why doesn't she just start an OF to fund her game
If I could marry a sparse set datastructure, I would.
>>562282887If you must know, I avoided creating any new segments for the sake of… Idk, optimization.I gotta avoid giving him bald spots
Come and read my blog about my universe everyone. I have all manner of stuff about my characters, lore and the games I'm working on.Kasha is the main series of games I want to make but GigaMaidens is the big game I'm working towards.https://gigamaidens.moe/?page_id=50
>>562262292>>562260171apparently she quit gaming for good; shes working on this project now https://www.youtube.com/@helenarisc/videossuch a weird project
>>562283680Oh, neat.
>>562283896She's getting more views than with her fake dev videos. She's obviously an artist who hired mr. Pajeet on fiver to turn her assets into a RenPy "game" on a weekend.
>>562283896>open trailer>it's all brown peoplelol
>>562260171she just needs to be more patient. Build a reputation with one game at a time, then release your magnum opus, like Cozy Bee Gameshttps://store.steampowered.com/developer/cozybeegames/
>>562286446Fuck off glowie
>>562287584Okay, retard.
This how long you have before the day that changes the course of your entire life.
>>562288035That's not June 6th's /v/3 show
>>562279402Okay I know I don't have any physics working so far but I'm going to try starting with some SIMD at the start gate.Yes I know that I'm mentally ill.
playing a lot of incremental games, it's amazing how much you can get by on so little
humans being happy about what AI can do is like turkeys being happy about extra food before thanksgiving.
Is the snowball fight anon still working on his game? Haven't seen him post here in awhile. Did he release in time for Christmas, or is he waiting for the next season?
>>562289320Yeah, it flopped.
Is this an /agdg/ game?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1264920/Endgame_Road_To_Salvation/
Putt Down and Poke all Toads have been released. Time to update the hall of shame.
>>562265750I'm not the artist.I thought it'd be a great image just to honor these devs and motivate other devs instead of another thread about AI, Steam, e-celebs, culture wars etc by bad faith actors.
>>562265750>fygoon attacking the dirk devits always those with a chance of making it that he attacks
13.3 years left. Yeah, I did a review of my expenses in March and if I keep being in the red as much as I was in March, my savings are going to run out in August 2039. March was a fluke obviously, but the balance lifted my mood, before it dawned on me that in 14 years it'll be 2040. 14 years is from Skyrim to now!Yesterday I started on a big customization system and I don't want to jinx it but it's progressing really well. I have too much experience to get my hopes up so early, but I think it's not unrealistic I could get it in a shippable state in a week or so.
>>562290241Inflation included?
>>562245856hey sluti have about 21k wishlists nowfirst commit on git was 12 months ago, so probably one year (though i dragged it out quite alot)
>>562290461You just had to piss in my coffee, huh?The actual time I estimate I have left is 154 days and inflation doesn't work so fast outside of Weimar Germany.
>>562288651The sad turkeys get eaten too
Prerendered 3D
>>562291108good idea.
What are the meta ways to host a html5 game? I know itch exists but it limits the window size, and I'd like it to fit the whole tab.
>>562289441Post steam? I dont remember what he was planning to name it.
>>562290540revealed it(on agdg) in june? according to my calculations
>>562292506just include a fullscreen button?
>>562292960unnecessary friction + most people are retards who wouldn't press itit's piss easy to do it, I just want a website that doesn't limit you to an arbitrary cuckbox so they can fit ads on the same page
>>562244330Neko Atsume is an idle game I guess, and its the only game I have on my phone. I think the cats are cute.
ProgressReading through waves of llm playing an interrogator, more expensive version of the model works quite well. Iteration by iteration fewer questions remain unanswered.In the process I'm thinking about that japanese mud polishing trend, a lot.
The most ungrateful fucks end up with success
>>562294156Yeah. They're right, though.
>>562258482Claude it cuh
>>562294156raise the price
>>562294886A robust editor tool would solve this. Let players make their own content.
>>562296143the cuffbust way
>>562296143>make editor>get cuffbusted
>>562296143the game was finished when it was released. a few bug fixes and that's that.
>>562277545Imagine having 800 hours logged in and not having 1 game to show for.Grim
>>562296890Type shi
>>562296974shi
>>562297574skibidi
>>562297660finna low key baka your gucci, on god
>>562297952AAAAAH TEACHER TEACHER TEACHER
>>562297574ballinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl-9MyuNMi4
I want to make a JRPGShould I just succumb to using RPGMaker or are stats not as intimidating as they seem?
dev musichttps://youtu.be/aCmtbciKbHI?si=gnFelymwBsA17pUFhttps://youtu.be/SECVGN4Bsgg?si=5ZfbMtUayDCHvUR7https://youtu.be/uzC_Vt5LGIE?si=E8hYNv4dL8lRVlMahttps://youtu.be/bl5TUw7sUBs?si=11KRN9DK2AfbB2Xfhttps://youtu.be/MPeCei_qfnQ?si=davmrIQ45B1bvIUh
>>562246963>>562254125Are any of these local models?
>>562258307>somehow still manages to make it about her vagina for SIMPathy pointsFuck these foids.
>>562298698No. But TRELLIS and older Hunyuan 2.5 models are. There's another that has higher resolution but no textures.https://microsoft.github.io/TRELLIS.2/https://github.com/Tencent-Hunyuan/Hunyuan3D-2Google also acquired a company that did 3D models, so they might be working on something internal but also not open probably.
>>562298325Why wouldn't you use RPG Maker for your rpg?
finally finished writing the story for my 4 part jrpg epic now I can get to work on the first one!
>crossed a million dollars https://gamalytic.com/game/3694480
>>562301849so what I know a guy who got a million dollars from a $3 lottery ticket. just as deserved and just as informative.
remember to use bump allocation if the objects are frequently allocated.
>>562302260I say use it pretty much always. Just allocate dynamically one time. 1 GB, 10 GB it don't matter.
>>562302260Unity and Godot don't support it so it might as well not exist. Go away with your made-up bullshit.
your game has post-launch support, content roadmap, post-game content, dailies, android support?
>>562252847Rocky Idle
>>562302396Why would it? I release a finished game, if I have plans then fans would think I'm scamming them.
>>562277545
>>562302396no. I'm making 2 games at the same time, biggie ans smalls, smalls gets no love but comes out first
>>562282773genuinely crazy this is a normal thing they are just programs I wouldn't even think to download an engine on steam, it would never even occur to me
>>562244094>>562245249>>562302485https://store.steampowered.com/app/4446000/The_Winter_Adventurer/
>>562252847Look at the OP retard, that's a vibecoded javascript game on steam without an engine.
>>562245249vibecoders don't make it passed a vertical slice, so I'm not worried
is fygoon here? the iron ghetto background music is stuck in my headplease upload it to youtube if you can
In the 2010s a lot of artists got super uppity about using references insisting it was cheating even though every notable artist who has ever lived used references. What was up with that?Anyway you should use references, especially for your animations.
>>562303306yeah but even AI cannot save a MAGATARD goycattle like that, they have severed their connection to God with years of eating microplastics and watching ZOG TVto properly make use of AI you need to be human
>>562303306jeet maxxing
>>562244330tired wagies looking for a low effort but still interactive way of relaxing after their work and daily responsibilities are finished before they go to bedwake up, do stuff, go to work, do more stuff, get home, do more stuff, have 90 minutes of free time before bed, watching tv/scrolling is too boring, play idle game to feel involved, click upgrade button, get dopamine, go to sleep, repeatgamers hate these games but they're actually very therapeutic if you're living this exhausted wagie lifestyleit's a step above scrolling social media and two steps above watching tv/movies, but exists in the same category of brainless digital relaxation for exhausted adults with burdensome responsibilities
incremental games are just hypercasual rpgs
>>562304020everyone uses reference. sounds like you read a couple comments online and spun that out into an entire worldview. maybe don't do that
the luddite pedotroon seething about AI will never not be funny
>>562304020'member that liar linda bergkvist? made tutorials about how to paint without ref. people though oh shit, the clout i'll get if i can do this without ref.. queue years of 360 no scope no ref claimers.turns out she photobashed her shit.
What DAW do you guys use?
ConcernedApe looking out for his Iranian fans
>>562305094reaper. i don't really know how to use it but i do use it
It's very important to me to combine cel shading and proper darkness. There's a few ways to do this I know of but they all kinda suck.>>562304020I think that was around the time prison school got caught using 3d models to trace poses.
https://www.indiepass.com/>Indie Pass is a subscription service offering a curated catalog of games from indie developers. For only $6.99/month, you can enjoy unlimited play time and discover new indie game favorites!i don't like this. they want my game... but i don't know about it...
JOEYFYGOONthats it, thats the xeet
>>562305929Initiating.... Fygoon Protocol
Where's the Josh progress post.
>>562245249Historically ideaguys are the most important humans we literally rely on the work of long dead ideaguys, same thing with gamedev.
[project Wasa]added the attack animations. next is adding the combat system so you can actually kill enemies
>>562304020Its like when Schwarzenegger used to give bad advice as a joke to sabotage his competitors.
>>562306085Fygoon Defenders: Void Protocol Zero>a neon-soaked cyberpunk fantasy adventure. it's not just a game, it's your next obsession.
>>562306190he got banned for making a post about indians, ask again in 2 days
>>562294156>cuck out to subhumanized gamercunts and make some slop>get surprised at subhumanized gamercunts being subhumans and shitting on youThey brought this on themselves, you know.
>>562294156ANON WAS RIGHT >>562260698
It's gonna happen....better switch engine asap
>>562307821Timmy boy ain't ever selling his majority. Even if fortnite dies overnight they make enough from Uncanny Engine 5 to stay afloat until they figure out how to add the next big thing to fartnite like extraction shooter gameplay... wait that's already starting to die... well the next big genre!
>negative review>the developer has responded>"retard"
>>562308148Based
>>562307210
>>562307210Didn't he get banned for posting Betz's address? Lmao.
Why is it that artists, writers, musicians, filmmakers are willing to speak up about the big companies devaluing their work, and try to fight their respective mediums being turned into disposable sludge, yet gamedevs fully embrace the enshittification of their industry?
If your game isn't a life service game with cattle passes your game is going to FLOP.
>>562303306my roguelike deckbuilder will be different!
>trans day is on april fools dayheh, hehe
>>562308650>yet gamedevs fully embrace the enshittification of their industryonly neverdevs do that with demoralization purposes
Game idea:A cool summer day, you can feel the breeze in your hair. It's got to be like, the middle of July with weather like this. The sun is straight up beaming. Warm day. You can smell someone is grilling down the road, there's that propane smell. Summer is here. Hell yeah. The music is like, kind of an electric rock but it's lofi and pretty chill. The whole vibe is actually pretty calm despite what you might think. I'm thinking summer is here, and this one is gonna be a good one.
>>562308650>yet gamedevs fully embrace the enshittification of their industry?If you're an actual game developer this is a good thing. It increases the value of indie games due to cattle pass fatigue.>Why is it that artists, writers, musicians, filmmakers are willing to speak upBecause they don't have Steam and rely on pedowood jewish money. Their voices are meaningless.
>>562308650Game devs are battered housewives that defend a monopoly taking 30% of their income forever while giving them zero (0!) ZERO exposure. They're mindbroken slaves that think they're just temporarily embarrassed Szymanskis.Gamers are also mental children that don't care about art in any capacity so what we end up with is battered housewives working their fingers to the bone serving garbage to spoiled children while daddy sits his fat ass on the couch and does nothing.
>>562305094bitwig
>>562309542This must be one of those neverdevs you speak of then. >>562309887
>post multiple times in the thread>no meltyGuess that confirms it was one guy with a huge chip on his shoulder. Guess the local McDonald's finally kicked him out so he can't use their WiFi.
>>562310003It's mostly just Josh. He's got monkey brains.
>>562246963does guns and nuns girl actually wear sneakers. pic goes kinda hard ngl frfr
>>562308581no apparently you can dox people without any issue but say something about poopjeets and it's 3 days
>>562309937yeah i understand that i just don't know why are they like this. like how come not a single gamedev today has a spine and the willingness to stand up to himself at least? who made them this way?
I am not gonna vibe code because is a pain in the ass to be an ai janitor rather than just fucking learning to do it by hand.Fuck vibe code!!!
>>562309937you're free to put your game on other platforms, tell us how it goes :)
>>562310369Good. I hope the based mods help clean up this racism towards curryCHADS.
>>562310369The absolute state of 4chan
>>562310506>you're free to put your game on other platforms, tell us how it goes :)
>>562310506>deflectionwhy are steamies like this? it's like a compulsive need they have to defend the gabencunt
>>562310746>>562310830god forbid someone doesn't let you stand on a soapbox and scream obscenities, I just lowkey violated your second amendment...
>>562310942>never speak up about those with power making your life worse! just accept it the way it is!very r*ssian mindset... it would make sense that r*ssians are the ones vehemently defending steam as they pay the least on there
>>562311115>gets a little bit pushback against his arguments>immediately resorts to ad hominem attacksyour emotional maturity... I can see why you've not finished a game yet lol
>>562309937>Game devs are battered housewives>Gamers are also mental children>daddy sits his fat ass on the couch and does nothinginteresting roles, where do you fit in?
>>562310942The people hating on gaben have either never released a game in their life or released a really shit game on steam and never recovered their $100 and are extremely butthurt about it. All they cry about is the 30%. It's really not worth arguing in any good faith way they just screech and yell obscenities like a liberal protester.
>>562311342>>562311309>>562311286$0.05 steam credits have been deposited into your steam account
>>562308650people complain about this non stop
Silkroad guy was a failed gamedev
>>562311538where? post a single example of this before that post
do you guys never plan to release on consoles either because they're "monopolies"?
>>562307821how does disney even have money at this point?
>>562311490you got raped, bro.>>562311342obviously some thirdie. first worlders either won't care about getting $70 instead of $100 (basically the same amount of money), or $700k instead of a million (wow I got $700k!).
>>562311761Are you retarded?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_the_Walt_Disney_Company
>>562311817But think you retarded cattle what you could do with the theoretical 300k more that you'd never earn in practice without steam!
if i weren't so autistic and unable to interact with people, i would stop being a solodev and focus on learning just one skill instead of ten.
>>562311638Discord and Slack were the results from failed game projects.
>>562311342>>562311817Lol bros you're not proving the battered house wife accusations wrong>Its only 1/3rd of my income! Think about how much worse off I'd be without Gaben??
>>562312006>>562311817>samefagging
>>562312178thanks for the two (You)s
i think steamwhiner is someone who couldn't pass developer verification (no photo ID or under 18 or from an unsupported country) and now is raging about anybody putting their game on steam.
>>562312418I can imagine it being Sweeney himself. So mad and realizes that we're valuable game developers, too stupid to reach out to us and sponsor the kino games we make.
>>562312565>>562312418Crawl back to >>>/v/ neverdevs.
No one upvoted my game.....
>>562312669Gabe did this...
>>562312418>>562312565>>562312710>zukjeet immediately begins samefagging and projecting as soon as anyone criticises valve
>Thread is always just a bunch of retards calling each other thirdies and jeets>In reality the actual jeets and other thirdies are too busy getting FREE money, tools and mentorship from Japanese game devsWe are being KEKED right now by the japs we spent decades sucking off.
>>562311679Everyone complaining about live service game? AAA studios producing open world garbage? Gacha crap? Everyone using garbage engines and no knowing how anything works? this is literally constant https://youtu.be/ZSRHeXYDLko johnathan blow talks about this shit endlessly
>>562312918>Everyone complaining about live service game? AAA studios producing open world garbage? Gacha crap?retard can't tell the difference between the consumer perspective and the dev perspective
>>562312906>have to pay 2000 dollars for a devkithahahahahahahahaha fuck no
>>562313014what? i'm talking about a dev
>>562312918Am I supposed to know your e-celeb?
>>562313075Jonathon Blow is a capitalist nazi pig! He doesn't count! Gabencunts did this!!!!
>>562313024
>>562312906what animal represents China in this pic?
>>562313298kamikazi drones
>>562313196>"get 100000 moneys for free!">"erm but actually, you have to pay it all back"if the offer doesn't include the devkit they can go fuck themselves, it's my money at this point
So I watched the trump announcement last night and...
>he can't afford a $2k devkitNGMI
>>562313169jeetnig
>>562313394keep slurping the companies cock, why am I forced to give someone money just to let my voice be heard? it's anti-art
>>562313393>and after donating, I posted desperate.jpg on agdg
>>562313153yes, you are
>>562313075he's not complaining about the industry from the developer perspective you 70 iq mongrel, he's talking about it from the consumer perspectivejon blow did actually talk about steam's visibility problem on a podcast, the fact that you didn't find it means that you are just a subhumanized /v/nigger
>>562313589Errr, wrong! The only celebs I'll ever acknowledge are accomplished writers such as Plato or Machiavelli.
>>562313568Fuck you that made me laugh.
>>562313624he is specifically talking about it from the developer perspective lol listen to the talk.visibility problems aren't real your game is just shit. He says as much most poeple's issues are just because their game is shit, made using a shitty engine by someone who doesn't actually give a fuck about programming or game design, and looks like garbage (guessing all these apply to you)
>>562302260>>562302360I don't get this meme about bump allocators, at least not for games. Most game entities have individual lifetimes and aren't freed all in batches, but when the character/enemy/entity dies or is removed.You can put all of them into slotmaps/slabs with a free list and have basically free allocation and deallocation anyway.You mean just for temporary data for computations within a frame? Or you actually mean using a bump allocator for a level/room, never reuse any memory until the player changes level, and hope that he doesn't stay in the same room for too long?
>>562313883It's just some guy who had a revelation about memory allocation after being lied to to use malloc in the tutorials he followed. Yes if you're using it for individual objects a free list is better with pre allocated blocks and some sane limit which is O(1) but for SIMD or ECS they're not cache coherent. There's another technique I've read awhile ago which uses some bit flags to indicate where it should allocate near other blocks so it also has better alignment.
>>562313883Clearly you're a chump dev and your game doesn't have 100k dynamic objects at runtime. Go make your silly platformer or something.
>>562313879>projecting againi was going to actually link the talk i was referring to but it seems like you'd just ignore it anyway, so kys
>>562314160be better
nobody talks about the art of transitioning from one screen to another.
>>562314160>projectingthe fuck does that mean? you don't have a project? why the fuck are you in a gamedev thread if you're not working on anything? gtfo
challenge for bad devs crying about visibilityname a single good game that should be more popular than it actually is. what are these unheard of gems? I don't believe they exist.
>>562314327Banquet of Sneeds
>>562314327Receiver
>>562314327Tactical Nexus
>>562313393Why do they call him Betz?
>>562314327>name a single good game that should be more popular than it actually is.The entire RTS genre. RIP.
>>562311115>Own American based company>Punish Americans for having greater purchasing power>Talk about how much America sucks and you want to move to New Zealand where it's nice and stable like all the other richfags doWhy do we worship Gaben again?
>>562314327>gets an example>sees 3 screenshots>"that game is obviously garbage"
>>562299476Unc engine
>>562309937>this shit argument>20 fukkin 26I'll reply seriously because you need to know how much of a joke u are:It's steam a defacto monopoly? Yes.It's 30% too much? Maybe, but it's industry standard>You get nothing, since they don't push your shitty showelwareLmao no.There is a limit to what they can push like a virtual display case, and products that sell or that become 'hot' get pushed.For 30% u get tons of stuff:- A place on the biggest and best digital vg marketplace on earth. You don't have to build a site, there is no sidestep "who the fuq is this guy selling this shit. can I trust him" - A newsfeed you can use to update players and wishlisters- All the monetary side of things are done by them, you don't need to deal with banks at all- Automatic dlc system- Integrated deal system that updates your price in the steam wishlist, and also sends wishlisted a mail- A forum for your game - A suggestion list that say whom from your friends already has or have wishlisted ur game. So a new player can ask for opinions from their friends, or know who can coop/pvp. - A controller support overlay, remote online and achiviments support- Auto patch upload that's pushed automatically - A gift system where some dudes can buy your game for other ppl- As a dev you can make deals with other devs and create a collection so you have a better discount-card system for those collectors typesAll of this is "nothing" tho.
>>562314327the scouring
>>562314775That has nothing to do with visibility. It's just not fun for the modern audience. Like shmups or traditional roguelikes.
>>562314562everyone has heard of this remotely into game and it did fine it's obviously a niche thing it has thousands of reviews on it and it's sequel. did exactly as good as it should havethis isn't a visibility problem>>562314643looks like it would give me a virus and telling me you made a game that is 10k hours doesn't sell it. I would rather have 10 good hours then 10k hours the dev hasn't even bothered to test themselvesthis is a game problem, it's also 120$ for the full game which is insane>>562314775this isn't a visibility problem no one wants to play these >>562314927close people are just bringing up stuff with thousands of reviews and good sales they would have preferred were more succesful it's not even just posting retarded jeet art>>562315185this has a thousand reviews being out less than a year in a niche genre , and it's not even done it's early access.
>>562282887Welp. Just woke up. Time to get to work on this
>>562315317>>562315359>That has nothing to do with visibility.Yeah it has every thing to do with BAD TASTE. Gamers will have their chicken nuggies TAKEN AWAY UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.>It's just not fun for the modern audience.Yeah, they would rather play cookie clicker. NO SKILLS.
2026 is the Year for /agdg/
>>562315583It's not no skills, kids are cracked on Valorant and CS:GOIt's no attention span
>There is a limit to what they can push like a virtual display casealways with the retarded arguments, these steam defenders. yes because a fucking website definitely can't have an extra section added to it. they also always conveniently ignore the discovery queue being a half-baked useless piece of shit (and just fixing the DQ could fix a lot of visibility problems on steam) but disingenous shills will never address that
>>562315802i asked dude show me a single game that failed due to visiblity just one
>>562315796>ValorantPretty sure that's an e-girl game.
>>562315670Weeb buff won't save him, especially when the weebs realize they have to actually play a game not just click through dialogue and jerk off to a jpeg
>Pump out playable characters, NPCs, quests, items, abilities, etc >Stall for literally days trying to do even basic level/map making
>>562315846bam, nigger. game literally had fewer than 30 reviews until it blew up on a social media platform outside of steam
>>562258369you haven't seen anything yet
>>562315183>There is a limit to what they can push like a virtual display case>There is a limit>In a virtual storeStopped reading there. Shan't go further. NO OTHER STOREFRONT FUNCTIONS LIKE THAT.
>>562316018levels are more important they are what actually effect moment to moment gameplay, all the other stuff only works if you actually have good levels
>>562316080so you are saying a game (even though it looks like shit) still found the visibility it needed and sold well?wow thanks for proving my point
>>562314327https://store.steampowered.com/app/287630/The_Council/https://store.steampowered.com/app/633360/Remothered_Tormented_Fathers/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142390/Remothered_Broken_Porcelain/
>>562316116I thought that was asmongold cross dressing for a second
>>562316120Yeah ebay has 2.4 billion (billion with a B) active listings a year but no one ever has trouble getting visibility on there even for extremely niche products. Valve's recommendation system is just fucking garbage.
>>562316018>mizzypostingwtf
>>562316257zukjeet, steam didn't give it any visibility. read my fucking post you dravidian animal, it blew up OUTSIDE OF STEAM
>>562316351>2700 reviews>1700 reviews>600 reviews with mixed reviewsi barely even follow gaming and I heard about remothered being shit, never heard of the council though the reviews of it are fairly poor and it still sold decently? You guys understand having visibility issues would be barely getting any reviews right? 600 is in that territory but it has awful reviews. Where are these great games with sub 500 or sub 100 reviews or sub 10 even? >>562316620why does it matter where it blew up? the internet isn't just steam most things would blow up on other sites first
Be the change you desire. Don't upload to Steam. Simple as. Stop CRYING it solves and changes NOTHING.
>>562316727I don't and I won't but I'll continue to call out the cuckoldry on display here.
>>562316685>why does it matter where it blew up? the internet isn't just steam most things would blow up on other sites firstsubhuman trying to weasel out of its own argument kek>and products that sell or that become 'hot' get pushed.if steam's role is relegated to just be a storefront, then why does it take 30%? if you have to rely on other platforms that valve has no involvement with, what am i paying them for?>inb4 muh social media trinkets!all of that shit is mostly automated and costs them nothing to maintain.if the cut was 10-15% then it wouldn't have been such a problem.
>>562317032>I don't and I won'tnodev admits he has no game, haha
>>562316196Yeah which is why it sucks if it happens to be a weakness of yours, but it's good to leave your comfort zone too>>562316585Watching s5 while I dev
Do people actually use Steam to search for games they might be interested in? My impression was that most people find games outside of Steam via social media or their ecelebs and only use Steam to buy them not browse through tons of shovelware.
>>562316727>stop calling out valve's shitty business practices to their primary content providers and JUST ACCEPT THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, CHUD!
>>562315183>I'll reply seriouslyBig mistake. Friendly reminder that you cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. You are talking to someone genuinely low-IQ.
>>562315670who wins?
>>562310501i almost want to offer my services to program for you for free but i'm not confident i could code better than an LLM and i would certainly be much slower. i'm also really autistic.
>>562317367nodev has no sway, nodev mad he got vac banned
>>562317241They used to. Getting your game on steam used to be an all but guaranteed ticket to success before the flood of sewage brought on by valve's lack of care made it impossible to find anything.Valve will NEVER get enough shit for that EVER. They LET their store front get filled with GARBAGE and SCAMS and at the same time they REFUSED to implement refunds and had to be dragged KICKING and SCREAMING to court over it.
>>562314327>>562315359let me indulge you in /agdg/ historyhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/in%20today%27s%20episode%20of%20indie%20games/200+ instances of games with less than 100 reviews
>>562317221People use it as a storefront because it's convenient, you don't need to use it but no one wants to use gog universe or that garbage web browser itchi.io installer thingNo one is making you pay them but people will also probably just not buy your shit if it's not on steam because it's not worth the hassle. You realize marketing budgets companies pay for advertising is not usually at the place people buy it?Valve can charge 30% because they think you will make more money paying them 30% if you can sell on steam, then if you couldn't sell on steam and didn't have to pay them 30%. They are correct the other options all suck.
>>562317241I would say 70% of games I've purchased in the last 4 years have been through searching through the Steam catalog. I think it's more common that you watch ecelebs that are into the game you play and then you might pick up a few titles through osmosis.
>>562317468dude I remember when everyone bitched about their greenlighting thing and how hard it was to get on steam, now you are just complaining it's too easy to get on steam. KWAB just make a good game faggot
>>562317375lmao samefag
>>562317580You don't get it every game but his should be gatekept from Steam because it's not fair, still hasn't come up with a quality low visibility game yet btw
>>562317580Greenlight was a non-existent barrier if you cheated the system and botted, that was the problem. Valve did not care and they let it happen.
>>562315802Who the fuck descover games on steam?Nobody. U go to steam to buy and play
>>562317697>>562317580jeet
>>562317492i looked at 4 and none of them looked good, I don't care about 200+ shit in the range of shitty-mediocre games that are ignored. I don't care a bout mediocre games they shouldn't exist. There are millions because of the whole "make small games" meme of just shovel ware bullshit that shouldn't exist. I asked for a GOOD game that should have caught on but didn't.
>>562317594Why is betz like this?
>>562317758resigning so fast? I thought you were serious for a moment
>>562317737so lower then cut to 15% then, if all you do is process the money
>>562316120Limited in a practical sense, u moron.When u search for an action roguelike steam will give you 300 pages of them. You will scroll at max three of those pages before fucking off.It's not steam duty to put "your" game to the top of a search, if nobody bought/wishlist it. That's the limitation of the system
>flies to the moon>april 1stflat earth chads, they're rubbing it into our faces. THEY think WE'RE STYUPID. I need to make a kerbal flat space program.
>>562317885name a single good one dude that you actually finished and enjoyed and wish more people did but sadly it couldn't because of the visibility
>>562306997Featuring the Cabal
>>562318107>moving the goalpostyou have been RAPED and GAPED, zukjeet
>>562318008>That's right dear, we can't function like every other digital storefront in existence>There's simply no way to recommend 20,000 things a year to people even though ebay recommends 2.4 billion things to people>Now don't fucking question me again
>>562318178let me guess you never actually bought or played a single one of those thosuand games you posted
>>562314327Void Protocol : Duo Resonance
>>562317772I'm not every schizo In this general shut up
>>562318232>There's no tag vandalism on amazon/ebay>"Things other people who bought this put in their basket">C++ books and programmer socks
>>562317737>anon watches st*eamers and reads k*takuI always go on Steam and browse and discover games that way.
>>562317961That's the point. If you are not hollow knight or stardew it makes no monetary sense to make your own site and deal with money handling.And, most importantly, it's a matter of trust. Everyone buys on steam, np. Itch it's well known to all indies but nobody buys there. What are your fucking chances to get the trust of your buyers on your shitty site?
so whats the reason why eldon betz goes into the zukjeet persona when we, yesdevs who have to pay 30% to gabencunt before company taxes, VAT and income taxes, complain about this unfair monopoly gabencunt has over our industry?like is the nodev really believing that we should be happy that gabencunt is buying yachts with our money?
>>562318273og poster of these is long gone dude, take the history lesson and review all 250 of them.
>>562316120>readingI didn't know you could read
>>562318503just start your own website or storefront already, you might even sell exclusively on itch. What's the point in complaining about Steam anyway, just show us how to reach the stars without gaben(cunt). Barking at the wall won't change shit, be the change you want to see.
the problem with Steam is not>visibilityor>discoverabilitythe problem is that there are so many amazing games, that merely good games are not good enough. your game is only in the top 10% in quality? double-digit reviews for you. you need to be top 5% to earn minimum wage for your time developing your game? don't like it? quit gamedev. it's a retarded jobby.
>>562318428>meaningless word saladhow much is valve paying your shill farm in bengaluru?
>>562318814we need to start a /agdg/ storefront!!!This won't drown out games out at all or result in crypto scams
>>562310237It looks kinda like that in the original:>>562244767>>562305496Great model, loving it, loving the lighting too, but those animations are subtracting instead of adding
>>562318359uh the game isn't even out?It has an extremely generic name and there is literally multiple unreleased games on steam called Void Protocol so I'm not even sure what you mean. NOTHING comes up when I should void protocol : duo resonance
>>562315183>It's 30% too much? Maybe, but it's industry standardWell no, among major storefronts of independently published software (apple store, google store) the standard is 15% with only an increase to 30% after the product receives it's millionth dollar within a year.Unless you mean specifically lesser storefronts of non-independently published "AAA" games software (the consoles) in which case also no because Steam doesn't charge those guys 30%... assumedly because they want to entice AAA onto Steam so they undercut the console percentages.
>>562318840But games are getting worse every year not better. The biggest indie games from a decade ago were of significantly higher quality than today.
>>562318232Nice goal post move. you problem was>a monopoly taking 30% of their income forever while giving them zero (0!) ZERO exposureU get exposure if u deserve it. There are metrics to track it. If you search for a tag/genre even the shittiest game will be there. At page 500If u are dumb enough to put "souls" in your title, u deserve to be lost at the bottom of the barrel.
>>562316018>don't make levelmaking tools for yourself>stuck with doing everything in the basic engine editor like a caveman>don't make levelsMany such cases
>>562318814>What's the point in complaining about Steam anywaywhat's the deal with deliberately acting like a retard just to dilute and drown the discussion? perhaps you are not a genuine user and just one of the many of valve's south asian shill farms
>>562307821Epic Mickey Unreal 6 is going to be so kino
>>562313883For situations where you need to frequently make allocations each of unpredictable sizes, and then free those allocations as a unit.In my example, I am using bump allocation to build my sparse voxel oct tree. Instead of calling calloc each time, I use a revolving door staging buffer to source bump allocations from, and then crystallize the tree into a GPU packed format and then reset the tree bump arena once it is packed.
>>562319002wrong. your standards are rising. you are like a woman on dating apps who thinks only the top 5% of men are attractive.
>>562318232damn, I guess you should sell your game on ebay then, problem solved!
>>562318938I don't know what you're talking about that name isn't generic at all!? IT'S TOTALLY MY ORIGINAL TRADEMARKED NAME OKAY I'LL STAB YOU IF YOU STEAL IT KIDUh... Fuck. Dude.What about AI Protocol, Shade Protocol, Pressure Protocol!? PROTOCOL PROTOCOL!? Delve Protocol!?Look dude, my writer, Chet Gepetto can only work so hard okay give me a minute to make more games
Why not just make a Touhou-based game? Established fan base, ez money if the game is good.
>>562319253>if the game is goodhard ask
>>562319112You're still just barking without offering any solutions, might as well shut your yap
>>562319253Because I'm not really into feet or toe hoe's.
>>562318949>Unless you mean specifically lesser storefronts of non-independently published "AAA" games software (the consolesyou're forgetting that consoles offer a unified platform for developers, effectively neutralising any complaints about crashes and incompatability which pc games have. the 30% on consoles is to subsidize the hardware (a real world thing I might add) and make life easier for yourself as a dev
1/2>>562313883>>562314146I'm not knocking free lists and other allocation strategies but as >>562314146 mentioned I am actually doing things with SIMD and ECS. It serves me anytime I need contiguous memory. I'm not trying to force it everywhere like file i/o and hashmaps, but I do use the arenas pretty damn frequently.My arenas and arrays (just arenas with some differences) reserve contiguous virtual memory and then commit as the need arises. Its a pretty basic setup.https://codeberg.org/FroggyGreen/rooster/src/branch/trunk/src/data-structures/vmem.c>It's just some guy who had a revelation about memory allocation after being lied to to use malloc in the tutorials he followed.Malloc is just how I learned from books I read in high school. I got into a strong habit of using it for a while despite knowing about other things.>There's another technique I've read awhile ago which uses some bit flags to indicate where it should allocate near other blocks so it also has better alignment.That's interesting.>ou mean just for temporary data for computations within a frame? Or you actually mean using a bump allocator for a level/room, never reuse any memory until the player changes level, and hope that he doesn't stay in the same room for too long?I use them the most in my ECS, which is just sparse sets. Most of my arena uses are intended for things that are created at program start and destroyed at program end. I also have a main arena that I use in place of malloc in many places. I also use Vulkan buffers an arenas for my vertex buffer. index buffer and storage buffer.Look at this post https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/561759797/#561762564 . All the vertex data is stored in two offsets in a single vertex buffer despite different vertex strides for the two types of meshes, all the index data is stored at a single offset in an index buffer, and all the transform data is stored in a storage buffer at three offsets.
So this general is just for shitposting, there's no actual discussion about game development?
>>562319253Porn is the easiest, you just need great art
>>562319430>effectively neutralising any complaints about crashes>bethesda blocks your path
>>562319503Discussion about selling games is discussion about game development. This is the most on topic the general has been in weeks.
>>562318949It's a standard because it's been used fore more than 10y.But even all these ppl mad at steam, u probably didn't even publish a game, let alone a game that gets 100 or more reviews (and that's not even successful).U are whining beacuse u can't dev. And in a world where u would reach release it's most probable that a steam release would rack more money than a shitty proprietary site.U cry because ur pillow is too small to hide 10 million dollars, but in your bank account u have less than 200 bucks
>>562319430cool tangent bro
>>562319503Actual game discussion happens on the /v/ threads.
>>562319351>without offering any solutionswhat's with the sudden increase of disingenous shills in this thread today? i literally already proposed to at least lower the cut down to 15%, that would already improve things by a fair bit.that's not even mentioning the discovery queue being a half-baked piece of shit or valve not doing anything about tag vandalism on steam
>>562319503>actual discussion about game developmentThat happens over at /gedg/.
>>562319503retard
>>562318840Being able to push anything at all is a feat in and of itself but that also massively favors slop from all the ambitious projects being cancelled before they're finished due to burnout or financial issues. If you don't think your game adds anything to the market then I'd question why you're making it in the first place, I could never imagine making a game that I myself would not like playing.Maybe you're learning but we don't pay people who are learning either, that model's been long gone so if you put yourself out there you better perform. Just like any competition with an open bracket you're being seeded against the best of the best when you're the worst because it's better for the industry if the spotlight is on them rather than some nobody no one cares about. That also means it's a big deal once you do make it out, people will take notice of you if you're able to make a name for yourself.
>>562319503Actual game development gets siloed into group chats and discords or the rare /v/ threads, we shitpost here
>>562319562Selling games only matter when you actually have a game
>>562319732>>562319576zukjeet samefag
>>562319503Precisely
>>562311490Its quite clearly the opposite, where steam haters are personally funded by Tim Sweeny lol
>>562282887Right track-ish? Because if I'm not on the right track, I'd like to know ahead of time.I altered the front bangs in this way, and I'm just trying to make certain before I continue or else do something monumentally stupid.
>>562319609i'm just trying to preemptively shut down any retarded shill arguments that they always go to such as "SEE??? SONY AND MICROSOFT TAKE 30% SO IT'S TOTALLY OKAY FOR VALVE TO TAKE 30% AS WELL!!!!"
>>562319576that's some cool projecting you got there but have you considered the amount valve pays you to do shill defense force posting is less than the payout im going to get when they lose the wolfire class action suit?
>>562319872>If you don't worship billionaire rent seeker A you must worship billionaire rent seeker B
>>562319615>>562319627>>562319730I see. Thanks lads, godspeed
>>562319617You want steam to cut their profits margin by hallf? I know you're in a delusion phase but let me get as clear as I can - they won't do it. They are raking in the money and you have no leverage. If there was a competition, a competent competition, then you might actually see them offering better deals. Right now you have retarded timmy , non-existent itch.io market and hosting your own site that won't even show in the google search until you pay 1000$ to index it. You have nothing to offer, you have no real alternatives and you want them to just hand over half of their profit just because it'll make things better... for you. You might as well ask Jeff Bezos to cut his paycheck in half just to increase the income of his workers. We're not living in the fantasy world kid, now first think of the way to find a leverage against steam so they're actually motivated to lower their cut. Wishy washy ain't it.
>>562319469Froggy you're so lame you spend days on a simple arena allocator and you claim you "commit as the need arises" but you're just pagefaulting all over the place which just reduces performance, just be up front about the memory you need instead of doing shitty tricks like Go which when out of stack space copies it and allocates more stack lol, you're fighting yourself on the cache locality front. I don't get why you keep doing it like this either you just have some CLI game which either you're trying to learn because you sure as hell don't need this mental autistic masturbation you're forcing upon yourself to make a game. Sparse sets for ECS are also debunked and inherent bad design, again fighting yourself on two fronts. You have this mental autism which many technical inclined programmers have to make things more complicated for yourself than it has to be either to due peak dunning kruger or inexperience, just like make game.
>>562320114You know its true lil broHide behind your gay maymays, we know Tim is your dad
>>562320239>a competent competitionEven if it existed, people with 200+ games in their library wouldn't move overTim can give his games for free and I would still rather pay for them 90% off on steam
>>562319503i was using it to post progress a few days ago but i finished my game. i can't say i recommend it. there's very little enthusiasm for progress posts. only bait gets (You)s.
>>562320239there's "no leverage" because of retards like you who are either retarded gamers who have zero comprehension of what gamedev is like, or worse, you're a dev who lets valve walk all over them willingly. curiously you also don't mention GOG which has a lot of the same features as steam and isn't as shit as EGS.musicians are more outspoken against spotify for example, and frequently encourage their fans to support them outside of spotify. and they also start coordinated movements to raise awareness over how spotify is damaging their creative careers where actually big musicians join in to help spread awareness. gamedevs, for the most part, don't do that for some reason and just accept shit the way it is. that's actually what the conversation started with
>>562319617>at least lower the cut down to 15%They already spend 50-75% of their earnings on operating expenses annually
>>562320239>non-existent itch.io market and hosting your own site that won't even show in the google searchno one is searching steam for new games in current year. you literally have a better chance of that happening on itch than steam.but realistically the storefront doesnt matter, you get your game played in a youtube video and the people who want it find the store it's on. that's all there is to it.
>>562320591>GOG which has a lot of the same features as steamI had to put it out of my autostart because it would crash and bug out constantly
How to get the uv grid gets smaller the closer it gets to the face like pic related?
>>562320625wow, you can sure tell valve is spending 2 billion dollars on operating with how fast steam support is (for developers), and how big the teams supporting DOTA 2 and CS 2 are, and how fast deadlock development is moving, how often steam goes down
people are going to be startled with how intensely good my game is. shock and awe.
>>562320823lol
>>562317594A FACT is still as much a FACT the first time I post it as it is the gorjillionth time I post it. The truth of reality does not bend simply because your fragile emotions are hurt. A single FACT can change the mind of countless high-IQ green goats, but countless FACTS cannot change the mind of a single low-IQ red goat.
>>562320823sorry I meant 25-50% but yes they actually do from what they've released publically. They also have around 350 people working on all of their games and the support I assume is outsourced to someone else
>>562320762>autostart
>>562320903a lot of the green goat stuff looks like slave morality.I'm a Master. The Cross of Christ was a metaphor telling me to accept responsibility for the sin of the world, because of my Godhood. God is responsible. If I'm God, then I have to accept responsibility.
>>562308675>>562309887>cattle passTop KEK. I might steal this.
>>562320591you see, now you're talking with a little sense - let's have an union of developers that have their demands in a written form, send to Steam and convince gaben to give them better treatment or they won't publish on his storefront. Of course you need fans of your work that will also support you and that means you need to be an established developer first and work with other established developers too. Still, I think there's a disproportionate difference in damaging costs for spotify artists too, isn't that they earn like 8 bucks for 1 million of their tracks listened? Imagine you sold 1 million copies of your game on steam and you got 8 bucks. Spotify is super shitty, steam is not.
>>562320239This.
>>562320903Okay then, post a fact
Game Development is a Master Profession.
someone tell me to fuck off and get back to work.
>>562321110lol sure thing
2/2>>562319469Another way I use arenas is for things whose lifetime is limited. People say everything in an arena must have the same lifetime but that isn't true. If you allocate and store the offset you can always reset the arena to that offset. So a typical usage would be allocating something that only lives in the scope of a function.Also I haven't found a need to use a free list with my entities (yet). I have an array of components and I only fill out as much of the array as I need. As the array grows more virtual memory is committed. I can probably do some optimizations but I don't want to start profiling until I have actual gameplay lol.>>562320303>Froggy you're so lame you spend days on a simple arena allocatorDays? I remember it being easy to set up. Its not very complicated, and I never intended it to be.>you're just pagefaulting all over the placeIsn't a pagefault on the order of microseconds? I don't see how this will be a bottleneck with the way that I'm using it. A page is about ~4 kb so I can't think of any situations where I'd be adding so many components at once that multiple pagefaults will happen (after the initial startup). >Sparse sets for ECS are also debunked and inherent bad design, again fighting yourself on two fronts.How so? Do you have any articles on this or videos. Since it has been debunked I'd like to learn more.>You have this mental autism which many technical inclined programmers have to make things more complicated for yourself than it has to be either to due peak dunning kruger or inexperience, just like make game.I just like to implement things that I find interesting. Don't see the problem with that. But yeah there are cases where I get a bit lost in the sauce.
>>562321137Unions are cancer in every industry that isn't a cornerstone to a country's economy
>>562320239>You want steam to cut their profits margin by hallf?They make way way WAY more from AAA games than indie games and AAA devsDO |NOT |GET | CHARGED |30% |
>>562321357Fuck off and get back to work
>>562321370I'm not Christian. I just affirmed Master Morality.I don't agree with the Christian virtues of meekness and submission.
>>562321137>Imagine you sold 1 million copies of your game on steam and you got 8 buckssteam really is not that much better, sure it's not this extreme, but they still eat 50% of your income, because the 30% they take from you does not include the 20% that goes into VAT.>Of course you need fans of your work that will also support you and that means you need to be an established developer first and work with other established developers too.a big problem is that a lot of gamers are just rabid steam defenders, and gaben cock suckers. like, a lot of them even deny that literally gabe himself personally wanted to push paid mods on steam with bethesda, something that gamers unanimously hate, for example. this is what i imagine scares away established devs from this, because the reputationa risks for smaller ones are too severe, and obviously nobody cares for AAA. how do you suggest combating that?
I hate the police
>>562321017>They also have around 350 people working on all of their gamesyou can definitely tellyou're also forgetting that steam itself isn't their only revenue source.they also have dota 2, cs2 and tf2 all combined together bringing in billions every year
>>562321486thank you
>>562321429That's the funniest partValvehumpers always say 30% is the industry standard when 30% is not even the standard on steam, it only applies to small developers.
>>562319924Yes it's better. Arrange it better at the top where it's still intersecting or you can also add more layers to cover that part.Something to consider is to use 4 sided strands, it's easier to fill the gaps
>>562321429this as well, it's insane how literally nobody ever brings up how the steam cut DROPS the more you earn, down to 20% if you make 50 millionand that's just what valve admitsyou can bet that they have backroom deals with AAAs to lower their cut to 15 or even 10%
You no devs have no idea how fucked you are
>>562321381The issue derives from that when it's sparse you either need some look up (hash) table to index into it and full fat array will always beat it, it also complicates ECS systems for no reason even though the design might be simpler to implement at first. Popular ECS framework authors like EnTT go into some more details about this but I don't have a link at a moment's notice right now.
>>562321137>Imagine you sold 1 million copies of your game on steam and you got 8 bucks.ridiculously skewed comparison to funhouse mirror steam..... spotify is distributing AD REVENUE of course it's tiny.the apt comparison of the largest player in direct sales for independent releases would be steam to bandcamp.......whose fees are..... oh look it's that number 15% again.
>>562318814Tranny betz this is a thread for gamedevs, we are a right to shit on gabencunt. Nodevs like you shouldn't even be here. DEATH TO GABENCUNTDEATH TO STEAM
>>562321370my parents are atheist but I've been indoctrinated into christian virtues. I think those really are virtues and the opposite are evil.
>>562321819>50 millionfrom what i've read there's some ridiculously large number like that for revenue off of 30% independents that triggers them to lower the rate.with AAA they have a negotiated lower rate to start with, no revenue threshold.
>>562321678Yeah and they're continuously updating the games that are for the most part free to play while having some of the best server infrastructure in the industry and they finance their esports scenes with most of those billions.>>562321819>you can bet that they have backroom deals with AAAs to lower their cut to 15 or even 10%Not really, there's a reason every AAA has tried to make their own storefront but only Blizzard succeeded where the others failed because they realize that people want to use it as a community platform and as company newsletter more than anything else. I also happen to know a retired producer/AAA studio-head so they would know and the backroom deals do not exist.
The irony of no dev seethers posting here instead of doing their dev workLike lock in lil broGet those 2 sales on itch bro I believe in you
>>562321407so call it differently, call it "dev holdings" or "friends with benefits", the thing is you mean jakc shit when alone and you need a crowd of devs to back you up. Again, Jeff Bezos himseslf said he hires people of different racial groups to prevent them from unionizing. When a top dog is stopping you from unionizing you know you should unionize. "Unions are bad" is the biggest psy-op done to the US by capitalists and you're just another zombie just repeating that mantra. >m-muh communism>m-muh mafiaUnionize or lick that shoe dumbass>>562321429Sorry baby, AAA actually can get better deals, like 25% or 20% if they have big sales. You see, it's the other way around, when you're a big publisher you CAN enforce your rules or get better deals, but when you're a lil dude with a wimpy indie game and nobody to back you up you pay 30%. See the pattern yet?>>562321528Steam is good for players, it's a buyers market. What, you wanna do a counter steam psy-op? You kinda have it there with steam saying they have licences that can be revoked. You have to convince gamers it infringes their rights. It's a fat one though.>>562321982what do you want from me, it's the other anon talking about spotify. I don't use it, I have youtube and ytd downloader.>>562321995rent free baby, I'm not betz but keep guessing.
>>562321798I can try
its not just the awful 30% btw, its also about the fact that steam's "algorithm" buries games that do not fit a specific criteria at launch, good games like fear&hunger were buried by gabencunt for over a year until youtubers discovered the game on the rpgmaker forums and posted it on youtubegabencunt literally does nothing for us and yet takes almost half our income, tf
>>562319627No it doesn't kek
>>562244094>>562244330this is a melvor idle clone, which was very big, basically osrs but idle. there's a tons of them already and they are all fairly successful, vibe coded or not. the idle/incremental genre is now full of vibe coded tho
>>562321370It's ironic because christianity was literally built by greek/roman authors, with the help of the jew saul of tarsus ofc
>>562322350>Yeah and they're continuously updating the games that are for the most part free to play while having some of the best server infrastructure in the industry and they finance their esports scenes with most of those billions.okay great. they're welcome to take out the money to finance all that shit out of the revenue from those games and the steam deck revenue, not from my fucking game.
My 30% makes no difference to Valve, but it can decide whether I have a home tomorrow or not, and yet they take it anyway. Therefore Valve is evil.
Inspo for the fellas
>>562321852Yeah no kidding, gemma 4 is a bigger deal than people think
>>562322758im already setting it up with the leaked claude code. nothing can stop me
>>562322689>>562322627see>>562320239>>562322407
>>562322854>im already setting it up with the leaked claude code. nothing can stop me
>>562322758He doesnt know
>>562322432Gabencunt is just another greedy American pig, being a jew is another thing entirely. The pornhub jew is actively dedicating his life to destroying our society. Don't even compare it
>>562322865>just accept the big corporations shitting all over you and stealing you blind!what's with the jeet slave morality?
>>562322407>Unionize or lick that shoe dumbassI'm from Sweden, possibly the most unionized country on earth and compared to 20 years ago, market conditions have rendered unions both toothless and actively harmful in most cases. The Unions are definitely not on the side of the workers and they only exist to employ workers who are too useless and incompetent to do their actual day-to-day job. The only thing you can trust a Union to do is prevent someone from receiving fair compensation in the event of a dispute and to prevent a company from getting interns or part time laborers.
>filtered 5 words>retard shitposter entirely gone off the threadfeels good man
>>562322865>no no you don't understand, they NEED every cent of their trillion dollar profit, they can't survive with only 500 billion!
>>562323080I had plenty of filters but I'm lazy to add them back.
>>562323080which words?Betz, Zuk, Shua?
>>562322627>okay great. they're welcome to take out the money to finance all that shit out of the revenue from those games and the steam deck revenue, not from my fucking game.That's what they're doing, those 2B revenue figures you see from skin gamba or whatever directly finances these events and prize pools so that we can have culture that isn't infested with saudi money and pay for views.
>filiter "filter" and now i dont have to read redditors telling us that she filtered the no-no wordsfinally peace
imagine handwringing about which monopoly you want to pay.... meanwhile i've had my itch.io cut set to 0% ever since they let their terms of service be dictated by payment processors.
>>562323227>>562323080>i'll just stick my head in the ground and let the fat billionaire jew take a dump on me every month because i don't like the words you use!the levels of cuckoldry on display here are insane.
I never filtered anything I see all of the shizos they fuel me
Initiating... Filter Protocol...
>>562322980again, you can't fight corporation alone. Unionize or find another leverage. Complaining about it on a basketweaving forum won't do jack shit. >>562323191unironicaly yes, that's the goal of capitalism and Steam is based in US. Go to GOG, I heard Poles are pretty big socialists.>>562323073Of course anything that stays too long gets corrupted, and Sweden has the biggest woke cancer in the whole EU, but we're just about to start an union, uncorrupted, fresh and ready to bash the heads. I'm guessing the unions at some point are infiltrated by the very people the union is trying to fight and that's when the shit gets hard. Good thing we're devs and we're fighting for our causes, not Steam!
>>562314297fade to black my nigga
>>562321370Too bad left historically fell and became slime
>>562321798What's a 4-sided strand?t. retard
>>562323282zukjeet
>>562323378FVARKKKKK GOGUM CHAD WE KNEEL...........
>>562321798Left is still going to be messy if you add bevels
>>562323378>more than $50 a daywhy that cant be me
>>562282887Hair is quite literally the hardest object to make in the entire 3d pipeline take it from an actual pro
>>562323549>Good thing we're devsWho do you think are going to represent the devs in these unions? Some commiewriter from Finland? All the big AAA are going to send out their union reps (those too useless to work in HR) whose only concerns are social issues and being in control of the office thermostat. And the rest of them? Crabs, crabs all of them, Timmy flies you out on a conference all expenses paid for ofc to host a little talk, just a little light indoctrination no harm done. They want you to feel like they're on your side, that they're your friend and you know there's just some realities you have to live with. 5 years down the line when someone's a little too cushy you can bet your ass that the only concern of a game developers union is making sure that no one else are able to become one.
>>562323549>Unionize or find another leverage. you can't because of your own mindset>Complaining about it on a basketweaving forum won't do jack shit.in order to deal with a problem you have to actually bring up the fucking problem and talk about it in the first place. and yet for some reason any time someone complains about valve screwing over indie devs on the internet you have actual paid shills drowning out the conversation and people like you who say "bro stop talking about it, it won't change anything"even though just simply drumming up enough noise about it could be enough, as valve is very sensitive about their PR and image (TF2fags managed to give back voice chat to the free players in TF2 simply by approaching valve with a petition and starting up drama on the net about it)
>>562321924I don't understand how it complicates things, I find it rather simple. I don't see how a fat array could be better if the data is sufficiently sparse. It seems like a waste of memory. I don't think that's ALWAYS a big deal, I play a little fast and loose with memory myself, but if I have a bunch of entities and several components each that are associated with ~10% of all entities it seems like you are going to have a real problem with memory ballooning. But more importantly you are going to have to loop over a lot of dead components. That is bad for the cache. If there are few components and a small amount of entities, sure I could see that. I'm not convinced it makes a big difference but I can follow the logic there. And if you have a component that all or most entities have, like a label, sure once again it makes perfect sense to me. I don't believe the claims you are making are outright lies but I'm not going to believe you easily on this. What I do know is that sparse set insertion and deletion is cheap, and that iteration is better than a fat array. So I would need to be convinced that the insertion and deletion creates some kind of bottleneck compared to a normal array.
>>562314297oh we talk about transitioning alright
>>562323585 Pagan and Jewish cultures encourage nasty/greedy strategies to life, while Christian cultures encourage generous strategies. The game theory optimal strategy for life is somewhere in between, e.g. tit for tat.
>>562323360>>filiter "filter" and now i dont have to read redditors telling us that she filtered the no-no words>finally peace
>>562323945You're confused on how fast computers really are if the branch predictor and cache line are all aligned.
>>562323378gogumcunt, do you mind if i steal this picture for future use?
>>562320805just look up the correct way to unwrap a face
>>562323387>>i'll just stick my head in the ground and let the fat billionaire jew take a dump on me every month because i don't like the words you use!>the levels of cuckoldry on display here are insane.
>>562324230Too bad I forgot everything from my class where I did it(not that guy) going to have to contact my teacher for a recap
>>562323930Listen, there isn't a day on /agdg/ for at least two years without steam complains. Two years of drumming the drum. yet we're still in the same spot. Clearly this isn't the place or it. >>562323378good for you! now how did you market it because I haven't seen or heard about it until now. Is it popular in australia?
Yappers doing anything but working on a game
>>562323768oh not to set unrealistic expectations... got a recent spike of attention starting this week from pic related that most obviously viewbotted it to bootstrap his account but it succesfully got algo boosted and has millions of views now.... every attention spike dies eventually though, i've gone months without a sale on SIT before and it's my most popular game.
If you make a mill is it really that bad that a jew took 300k from you and a jew gov took another variety?
>>562324352I'm moving and I don't have a desk to work on so I have a realistic excuse
>>562324364>another example of youtube shorts being the newest meta
>>562324531>>another example of youtube shorts being the newest meta
HOLY FUAARK it was just joshua all along??
>>562323378nice, good work anon. hope your success continues.
>>562324375You live in a false equivalence where u think that without the jew nothing would have changed.A million in dev means selling to normies, normies only buy on steam and consoles.
>>562324352I think I'm owed some shitpost time
>>562324547epic quote
>>562324230i copied the seams from this model and it's not like that at all it doesn't have the gradient i even did the seams from island on the exact model and turned out different.
>>562324771>epic quote
>>562324614no it wasn't me
>>562324531as far as i've seen, youtube views converting well into sales has been going for over a decade, it's not a new meta, they're seemingly the only audience willing to go off their dopamine machine and buy a game.
I only came here to shitpost
>>562322707I dont have a gf like this so I dont feel very inspired
I gotta think of a good grunt sound effect. EVERYONE knows "EEYAH" from DMC or "SWAH" from Ninja Gaiden
>>562324964we know eldon "zukjeet" betz
>>562325106But I never played those games
>>562325132Someone out there is actually called dikshit sukdeep for sure
>>562314327Every /agdg/NIGGER thinks a game deserves Minecraft-level in terms of sales. Anything else than 2 billion in profit is a failure in their eyes.
>>562321798Is this more acceptable?
>>562323643A 4 sided strand of hair, pic related>>562323745I don't use bevels after>>562323869I agree, it's annoying
>>562325291If you want an actual pro solution houdini has a hair cards exporter to blender now. You're doing the most painful shit in 3d modelling. Not bad though but texturing them is still a pain in the ass
>>562325291It's still too messy. You know what to do now, it's just hard to get it right. Keep working on it.
why are there almost no games where you are in a house with other npcs?house party feels like the only option for that type of game.2D visual novels don't count.
>>562325331Oh, One of those where it's not hollow inside. >>562325590I mean messy style is what I'm looking for>>562325391Houdini?
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>>562325850Yeah houdini but don't get into that if you aren't a pro pro. There's also plenty of vids for hair cards. Most of them suck. I'd look for newer ones
>>56232595427 2b 91 48 8a 42 8c 38 28 b8 3e 7c 47 f5 90 ba 63 b3 f3 a9 27 51 3a 53 01 d6 df 57 66 b3 40 4c 61 d9 c2 25 75 70 76 07 80 35 2b 2c 27 d2 c4 b3
>>562325831>why are there almost no games where you are in a house with other npcs?>house party feels like the only option for that type of game.>2D visual novels don't count.
>>562325954explain please
>>562325850Honestly, IDK how to get it to be 4-sided, because that could really improve how this all looks due to me not constantly trying to bunch shit together to cover up bald patches
>>562325831the sims
>>562324313>Two years of drumming the drum. yet we're still in the same spotbecause this place alone has many gaben ball fondlers who do their best to drown out any complaints about steam, just look at the discussion ITT and how a particular indian tried to shit up the discussion with low quality posts.
Gaussian splat rendering in video games. CHEAP photorealism for VR. Valve, please hire me.
some of you need to chill out
>>562326183What is to be explained
>>562326509I literally can't chill out my gamma waves are popping out of my brain when I work
>>562326509eric is a nepoCHAD. love that absurdape.
>>562326323the only low quality posts are about lowering the gaben tax without giving any reason to do it. Just go with the googem route, itch.io -> 0% -> market through the youtube shorts. Good luck!
>>562326190In 3dsmax I can extrude the edges then weld/collapse the vertexes of each strand to form the missing faces. I'm sure that's possible in blender too
>>562326323Steam's cut sucks but you may as well be complaining about taxes for all the difference it'll make.
Where did this idea that I'm the Zuckjeet come from? Genuinely asking cuz I know I get blamed for a lot of stuff here but this one never made sense to me.
>>562326509UNFFFF those LEGS!!!!
>>562325850If you're willing to dump the 300 for houdini indie you're getting some pretty strong software but the learning curve is pretty high. It has solutions that you won't find on other programs though
>>562325850I get the messy style it feels like early age anime
>>562326323>>Two years of drumming the drum. yet we're still in the same spot>because this place alone has many gaben ball fondlers who do their best to drown out any complaints about steam, just look at the discussion ITT and how a particular indian tried to shit up the discussion with low quality posts.
>>562324795He probably distorted the island manually. You should just do it without distortion and turn the resolution up. It's not 2010 anymore
>>562325954>c1 is not a valid code
>>562326669I just select Round instead of Object. Looks like shit though
>>562326803>the most basic model of legs that almost every guy will get wrapped around him in his teens or early twenties at the latest
I kinda want to make a driving sim but beyond that I don't know what it should be about, i need an ideas guy
>>562327442Most people instinctively fear me and they should
welp, looks like only JOEY FYGOON can save us now...
>>562327536>5000 recent games about driving Long driveSummer carSummer car 2ClonesKind of saturated
>>562327536do a remake of this game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7lc92PH90
>>562327608we call him CHADgoon 'round here thoughteverbeit
>>562327691Tf this looks sick
>>562327536I got a free one for you:horror game where you have to travel to safe zones to deliver supply drops
>>562327536I always wanted to make a noodle delivery game where you drive a moped around a 1:1 scale Hong Kong but that scope is far too big for me to do currently. I just stick to pumping out Love2D slop instead
>>562327691it gives me carmageddon + fifth element vibes
>>562327536Just do what Road to Gramby did
>>562326814Yeah I'm not putting 300 bucks down for a program.I'm broke as shit as-is with the distracted driving ticket
>>562328192Fair. Just find some vids and understand youre pushing it cause youre doing the hardest thing you could make
why are indie games promoting feminism and LGTB getting constant articles, steam and youtube algorithm preferential treatment, podcasts, etc?
Somebody told me they stopped coming here because the level of discourse was so in the toilet as to be irreconcilable. Are they right?
>>562328896Only come here to shitpost and wind down
>>562328896fart
>>562327659not enough driving games, 5000 is lacking, i need to push those numbers ups>>562327783yeah delivering shit is the safest and most simple thing to do i believe>>562327909wasnt there a guy in here making something like that anime style?>>562328024That seems interesting but then again, its already done, dont know how could i expand in something like that
>>562328896Yes.
I really now want to make 2d platformer maker.
piss
>>562328712Industry plants Nepo babies make slop and daddies friends make their wagie staff write positive press about it
>>562326652>>562327241zukjeetian samefag
>>562328712Good quesiton, I also want to know. I remember a roguelike game I think it was soullash or something like that getting review bombed because it has no gay sex despite being an immersive roguelike or whatever.
>>562329201>zukjeetian samefag
>>562329120bad cris
>>562329120Hmm I'm not working on a platformer even though it's my favorite genre. Will have to consider it for next project
>>562329120cris FVARKING WON sell your g*d*t stocks
>>562327536Make death stranding but you have a car
making my game and not having a gf to share it with feels so bad.
making my gf and not having a game to share it with feels so bad.
We should just go get gfs instead of staying here productivity boost will be massive
>>562327536Porn + NFS Most Wanted. The higher you are on the rank the better the women you are able to fuck.Call it Urge For Speed
>>562327536Pacific Drive, but RV There Yet?
>>562329916as if she'd give a shit>hey look at my game>cool. wanna go out for a bite?t. had a gf while making a game and the game made it but the relationship didn't
>>562330218saar this is good idea it will make many rupees for me thank you kindly saar love from uttar pradesh
>>562330004Make my gf do the art for me because I am cooked
>>562330360What if you get a gf that's interested in videogames like you are? Ever thought about that?
>>562330640Bruh just make ai do the art for you wtf
>>562263738Make them actual grannies.
>>562330831I've been looking for that for over 15 years and it hasnt happened yet
>>562329381you read my mind, i might even add hour long cinematics and a shitty norman reedus psx stylized model>>562330187already making a porn game as a side hustle>>562330218fuck, im just discovering that game, looks really good, i couldnt make something like that even if i wanted too,
ok now that we all made it whats next?
>>562331113I made it so hard next isnt even vidya
>>562331198>>562331198>>562331198>>562331198new thread
>>562331113>ok now that we all made it whats next?
>>562326669>>562325968>>562327060>>562326814>>562325331This better?
>>562330831she was interested in video games, she liked celeste and disco elysium and stardew valley but wasn't too interested in my game. neither were my friends and they're all gamers.
>>562331064>i might even add hour long cinematics and a shitty norman reedus psx stylized modelI didn't mean a parody game though. Make an actual game
